China did not ask the Americans to move their factories to China. It is the Americans who move their factories to China to exploit Chinese blood and sweat and re-import their products back to the USA to rip off the Americans like Apple.

China has reduced exports to the US from 8% to 2% of their global annual exports and continues to decline. Doing business with the Americans is a hassle with no appreciation in return. The Americans are ungrateful people, they not only want the cake, but also eat it, and show their greed as benevolence. The Americans are sick.

The Americans are behind China in nearly all metrics measuring progress. The Americans have nothing to offer the world in terms of moving humanity forward but wars, chaos, and destruction.

Did something change at some recent date?

My guess is that it started with the current round of Anti China demonisation from maybe about the time of Obama’s Pivot to Asia?

Before that people with an interest in China used the term CCP with no negative connotations.

But after the heavy demonisation started, regular folks who didn’t think too much about China, much less discuss it online. But when the Powers That Be decided that China was The Enemy No.1 , then CCP became a bad word.

It was then that the masses who had been hiterto blissfully ignorant about China started ranting about the Evil CCP. Everyone suddenly became an expert on the “horrors perpetrated the CCP”.

Why was CCP commonly used instead of CPC? My guess is because it rolls of the tongue so much better than CPC. And as D Dan alluded to, it sounds like CCCP (also the height of Evil, apparently)

The whole thing sounds like the joke about the “racist� and “anti-racist� way of referring to non-white Americans. Horrible racists say “colored people� while progressive anti-racists say “people of color.�

LOL absolutely.
I visited friends in the States about decade back where I attended a dinner party. In Singapore it is fine to talk about racial things in a light hearted manner. But at this party in Calfornia, I made a joke and mentioned to a bunch of White folks at the party that I was “yellow”………and I soon realised I had made a faux pas……………I have never seen Caucasian folks turn a Whiter Shade of Pale so fast 🙂

Then after a long awkward silence, one guy finally said: “oh, you are not yellow, you are a light beige”.

LOL I didn’t know if I should laugh or be insulted. I am happy being Yellow. Obviously he thought it was less than perfect..

Anyways, I knew he meant no insult. He was actually trying to be nice in his own way, and I give him credit for it.

But this incident showed me first hand how sensitive the race issue was in the USA.

You can go to China without a Visa now, does the USA dare to let Chinese or anyone else in without a Visa? Why can’t the USA be so honest and open like China if they are not full of lies about China and everything else?

It seems the Americans bury their heads deep in the sand, but they claim they have freedom because they can turn their heads a bit in that deep sandhole (the thick-weaved anti-China propaganda and national security fake news).

American ideology is a deep-rooted ‘god-fearing’ morally defunct evil ‘Puritan’ cult. they can’t tolerate any difference from their cult dogma. Even though others can manage their nation better and look after their people better than the Americans, the Americans still demonize others with their old and tired Cold War slogans and trolls.

Precisely. People have preconceived beliefs and twist things to suit what they already believed in. When it comes to China, very few people are able to analyze things properly and logically. When chi a tries to fight corruption they will say that’s political purges, China is evil. If they don’t fight corruption they will say it is a corrupt shithole full of evil corrupt elites. No matter what they do, you can always make excuses if your goal is to paint the country as bad. If China’s factory is efficient that is an overcapacity problem, if it’s performance is average they will say it is stagnating mediocrity, if it’s performance is bad then it is an undercapacity inefficient system. So no matter what, China is always wrong for these people.

Just as successful, but it would have taken longer.

Certain parties moved manufacturing to China and they thought China would be so thankful they could pivot to China and escape the failing USA.

They got a big surprise.

It was not meant as humor and you missed that as well.

Indeed, even a half-wit would have understood from the tone of the first sentence:

Am I a bad person if I want it so happen so we can see whether or not all that money we spent on the MIC has been worth it?

If I turn out to be wrong, I stand to be correct.

You would probably know better than I.

Yes, what you wrote makes alot of sense. I would expect that in the early days, China was not too worried if CPC or CCP was used, as the accuracy English translations was probably far down its list of priorities. But I think that some kind of “Best Practice” formulation must have been drawn up since then, and standardised the terminology to CPC.

Personally, I have not been following China issues all that long. It is only when the demonisation of China reached ridiculous levels when I started paying attention. But by then almost all mention of CCP was used in a negative sense.

I still would not say I spend too much time following China stuff. It is only the irritation of reading stupid anti China remarks that makes me engage the commenter.

Are you saying that women on your side prefer muscular men as mates?
Women on our side obviously prefer good-looking men. Perhaps the more feminine a man is, the more women like him.
We probably only have gay men on our side who are interested in muscular men.
Of course… Nowadays, many girls are particularly money worship, and basically they will calculate the value of money. After all, here, it is generally the man who pays the bride price to the woman.

According to Pentagon estimates, China’s current ship-building capacity is a staggering 232 times greater than our own.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-probe-finds-china-unfairly-dominates-shipbuilding-paving-way-penalties-2025-01-13/

In other news, Cleveland Browns’ probe finds the Detroit Lions unfairly dominate game-winning in the National Football League.

Many thanks Hua Bin
there is one particular aspect of China’s governance I’m interested in, the actual role of the smaller political parties which apparently do still exist in parallel to the CPC (or CCP ?) and are represented in the various governance forums.
How would you describe their actual role and influence?

How successful would China be if they could not leech off America’s economy, especially the part that was moved to China in terms of manufacturing?

Second, there will be no direct war between the US and China; rather, the US will try to drive China into a regional war against as many countries as possible, just as it successfully did with Russia in Ukraine.

The problem with this thesis is that ironically the Ukraine war has more or less neutralized most if not all of the war hawks in the countries surrounding China. Not even the Philippines which is effectively the corrupt, unofficial 53rd state of the US is chomping at the bit to get into a fight with China anymore, even with US backing. The fact is all of them want to fight China down to the last American, and now seeing what the US has done to Ukraine realize in the event of hostilities they’ll be fighting China alone.

I commented on the video that was originally at this spot. It must have been changed.

I agree with Walt King, that CCP is a rather reliable way to distinguish those who are inculcated with anti Chinese propaganda. 99% of the time it is used in a derogatory fashion.

I am not so sure about that. I seem to remember that in the old days (e.g. 1960’s and 1970’s) “CCP” was used even by China. It was probably a direct translation from “中國共產黨” (Chinese Communist Party). But later, “Communist Party of China” (CPC) was used– probably to conform to more formal English.

If I turn out to be wrong, I stand to be correct.

The general transfer of technology from the West to China is not a myth, this process is absolutely standard and expected. The scale is what surprised people. Most economically junior countries are simply not able to take advantage of the situation when outside countries move in to take advantage of low production costs. China is unique with its long advanced history, huge pool of underdeveloped people and generally high mental capability and work ethic. Once the Chinese productive economy became visible and accessible, globally-minded corporations were eager to build new factories in China using the latest technology. This may have been short-sided but is easy to understand. China was very aggressive about tapping into the technology. At some point they had learned the ropes and continued to advance on their own. After that their smart fraction begins to innovate and become leaders in many fields. The circle is closed when Western students go to China to learn the latest in technical fields which only fifty years before Chinese students had been learning in the West.

Of course there is always espionage, shady deals made under pressure, bribes, threats, etc. It is unclear if these aspects are different in China compared to anywhere else. Maybe the Chinese are better at these sorts of games or maybe not. China definitely benefited from geopolitical maneuvering since the 1960’s, but how much of this was driven from Beijing and how much from the West?

We did have a immigration problem, back in 800 A.D during the Tang Dynasty where middle eastern traders/administrators and their families settled in large numbers due to the cosmopolitan nature of the imperial court at the time. When one of the Turkics decided it was a good idea to start a rebellion with the express intent of proclaiming himself emperor it heralded one of the greatest periods of bloodshed not just in China but the world.

When the dust settled China lost up to half it’s population. The remaining half got wise and promptly wiped out any remaining non-Chinese in the empire.

What is the Chinese equivalent of the KGB (SBU), CIA, MI6, etc? Are these Chinese organizations less well known in the West because they are simply less active or because they have better information control?

china war section is overly optimistic, empire underestimates its major foes but its not completely stupid. the operation will be mostly focused on trade interdiction (blockading), with actual fighting done by proxies, an overall strategy of salami slice/1000 cuts – so unless china will be willing to go outside of their comfort zone of defense and deal with the problem (ie. us) directly they will be stuck extinguishing regional fires just for new ones to pop out, and eventually left surrounded by a wasteland

on related note, core goal of empire with taiwan is simply to demoralize, they will not defend it seriously – whilst having taiwan as active bait is optimal, forcing china to destroy it is preferable end result, but in a pinch they will do it themselves rather than allow reunification

Can your observations be extrapolated to explain why unlike Europe, China did not have an Industrial Revolution?

That’s a deeper question than you might think.

The Industrial Revolution is currently a subject of discussion rather than general agreement. Nobody seems to know why it happened. See Gregory Clarke’s A Farewell to Alms for a survey of the field of study. Clarke reviews several proposed enabling events and maintains that work by other economic historians has shown that the “trigger” was not the trigger. Clarke then states his own theory, which has not been disproven but is subject to wide criticism as it seems to violate US Civil Rights jurisprudence by maintaining that population mean IQ can change with time and place.

However, some things can be said. First, the Industrial Revolution did not occur in “the West” in general. It occurred in the United Kingdom, and stayed there for several generations. During this time interval, England was the only place on Earth with factories in today’s sense.

The factory system was a major element in the UK victory over the Napoleonic Empire in that England could produce goods so cheaply that some French Army buyers bought their uniforms from England, and English trade supported England as a “force in being” that required Napoleon to maintain a huge army. Napoleon’s Russian invasion was an attempt to conquer one of England’s largest trading partners and drive England to bankruptcy.

And nobody knows what triggered factory system development in England. There are many explanations, all disproved or disputed.

However, in some cases the industrial revolution was impossible. Consider the archaic Inuit of Arctic Canada, who went extinct because their gene pool got too small. Or consider the Polynesians, who lived on small islands. Neither had any chance of an industrial revolution, and the physical reasons for that are obvious. So in some cases, physical reasons can preclude industrialization.

Since nobody understands why the Industrial Revolution occurred, it is difficult to set a lower limit on factors that would preclude industrialization. Such factors may not even be physical.

OK, so it’s a difficult problem, and industrialization looks to me like an emergent (and possibly ephemeral) resultant of a self organizing system. That means it might vanish tomorrow ( See: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/climate-jeezus-taketh-away ). People in general don’t even understand the abelian sand pile, which is about as simple as self organizing systems get, and certainly don’t understand what is needed to keep industrialization going. Industrialization might be as fragile as the development of an egg into a chicken, and as subject to old age as a 5 year old chicken. Nobody knows.

That said, here are a several possible reasons why China might have skipped industrialization:

1. Physical cause: Unavailability of power sources during Grand Canal era: Western Europe had long used water power and wind power (see The Medieval Machine). The Industrial Revolution occurred after the invention and application of the atmospheric steam engine and its later refinements. The Grand Canal was of necessity through the Yellow River’s alluvial plain, center of Chinese population. The level topography of the alluvial plain made water power impractical. Apparently windmills were not widely used, but I know little about that. Animal and human power was economically dominant. The Chinese pattern of intensive cultivation on small plots ensured that human power would be in oversupply and thus cheaper than complex and expensive machines. Without a long history of substituting mechanical power for human labor, the foundation of industrialization was lacking.
As a further disincentive, coal deposits are not found on alluvial plains, and China’s were not near the Grand Canal, so bulk shipments would have been prohibitively expensive even if steam engines had somehow been available.

2. Emergent system cause: The handling of South China during and after the Treasure Fleet era destroyed a lucrative trading network in the South Seas. At one point the population was moved several km inland from the sea and forbidden to so much as look at the ocean as an Japanese and local anti-piracy measure. This ended trade, and ended production for the export market that might have resulted in factories. It also left the field clear for Portuguese traders and the eventual “Century of Humiliation”. However, it did end piracy (and everything else), and so showed Imperial authority and the unexpected result of such authority.

3. Conceptual cause: The Imperial treatment of merchants as a sort of evil piggy bank was not conducive to long term thinking. Merchants were treated as morally beneath contempt, but rich, and thus made confiscation of merchant wealth during emergencies a good policy. This prevented capital accumulation. Note that during the Napoleonic Wars, the UK did not confiscate wealth, and that this won the Wars for the UK (see above).
Note that the West has, since the World War era (1914-1945) adopted the same concept. Wealth is seen as a sign of evil exploitation. During the World War era, all sides equally did confiscate wealth (See: Sheidel, The Great Leveler). Perversely, Pareto showed that such a simplification of money using systems tends to increase economic inequality, with the organizations that have confiscation power increasing in controlled resources. During the heyday of Protestant belief, wealth acquired through trade or manufacturing was thought to show that the person had a vocation blessed by God, and that the person was good, as was the wealth. See Weber’s The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism. As mentioned above, it was not confiscating wealth that won the Napoleonic Wars for the UK.
The Marxist USSR and the Marxist influenced US and EU both appear to have lost or be losing industrialization after adopting the “wealth is an evil piggybank” belief. Hard to believe that religious fanatics are responsible for industrialization, but there is a case for it.

4. Religious cause. Try “Chinese are not religious fanatics” (see 3, Weber) and so do not see accumulation of intellectual and physical capital for non family members as a religious devotion. Since there is no advantage to accumulation of goods for use by non-relatives (“What has posterity ever done for us?”), such accumulation is not made. Southern Italy, Eastern Europe, and since the World War era the US, all believe that “wealth is to be enjoyed or spent on your own family” and all these areas are losing or never had industrialization. Note that Islamic areas are religion fanatics by this standard, but without belief in the accumulation of intellectual and physical goods for their society. Fanaticism is necessary, but not sufficient for industrialization– it has to be fanaticism about the right things.

All 4 of the above are hypotheses. Quite possibly they are all false, and the “bored alien observers” are causing all the trouble, which trouble is their idea of a joke. Nobody knows for sure.

What we do know is that past history is like the “business as usual” case in the MIT Limits to Growth study, and that the only promising way out of a resource failure is use of non-terrestrial resources, such as lunar mining to make power satellites (which the PRC and Musk/Space-X are enabling). That would open the inner Solar system and asteroid belt for use of new resources. Beamed power from these satellites could power ion drives, which have the very high specific impulse (change in momentum/kg of propellant) needed for inner solar system operations.

You missed the point that my last post tried to convey which is that White Europeans are not innately predisposed to organizing themselves into cohesive societies and powerful States based on the notion of a centralized authority. The last time the Romans did so was by imposing their Roman Imperium over White Europeans but their Roman rule didn’t last long. Since the Fall of Rome, White Europeans have not managed to replicate the Roman Empire nor has anyone succeeded in politically unifying all of Europe under one All-Powerful State despite attempts by Charlemagne, Napoleon, Hitler and Stalin to do so. The reason is that White Europeans are innately predisposed to forming ethno-groups which are necessarily hostile to pan-Europeanism. The last attempt by White Europeans to create a pan-European union is the EU which is now being Balkanized by the Ukraine War. Without an All-Powerful State unifying all of Europe, White Europeans end up forming European ethno-nations which signify their group consciousness as nothing more than primitive tribalism. This explains why White Europeans were constantly fighting and killing each other for millennia because their group consciousness have not changed much from primitive tribalism.

Plausible. I’ve heard it said that it’s the emancipation of women. They have primitive instincts. If left to female choice, we’d all be low IQ / hunkering bodies as Hacienda termed it.

Well, they weren’t paid to produce a report concluding that a war with China cannot be won by the US, were they?

Who knows how much they were paid? But it probably wasn’t cheap. I hope they weren’t paid too much for their efforts, given the word-etude’s rather shallow analysis. Despite numerous footnotes and an academic-ese jargon filled style, it really comes off at about the level of a freshman, mid-term poly-sci hand-in assignment. These days, AI ‘chat’ could easily replace whatever is going down at RAND. Maybe it has, already.

The sad part? The RAND and Pentagram echo chamber are high on their own supply. And if they don’t exactly believe their own nonsense (I don’t even think they do, but probably had a good laugh after hours, at the Ratskeller, discussing the thing), they are certainly willing to fake it.

…Chinese people would mete out extreme organised actual physical violence against the ‘foreign devils’ once the proclivities of these aliens becomes widely understood…

It is justifiably easy to suspect this because such an incident (rioting against Africans) already happened in the city of Nanjing during the end of December 1988. It purportedly began in front of a disco, an altercation relating to an African man accompanied by a Chinese woman. It highlighted what is commonly understood: Chines people are very “racist”. This student riot is regarded as a prelude or trial-run in advance of the big protests at Tiananmen Square a few months later.

• Wikipedia
Nanjing anti-African protests
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_anti-African_protests

• South China Morning Post
When African students in China fled their cities amid racist cries against ‘black devils’ from Chinese students marching in the streets
https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/arts-culture/article/3171520/when-african-students-china-fled-their-cities-amid-racist

• Los Angeles Times
13 Injured as Chinese, African Students Clash
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1988-12-27-mn-811-story.html
Quote:
“The African students have a strong tendency to have parties, to drink a lot and to associate with females,� Wivell said. “The Chinese react very negatively to that. Many of them think of the Africans as stepping out of the woods and just coming to China, and having no culture. They’re very prejudiced here.�

“usage of “CCPâ€� and “CPC.â€�”

The official name is Communist Party of China, so CPC is the correct abbreviation. The anti-China clowns like to use CCP because it sounds more like CCCP of Soviet era. Since enough investment on the demonization of Soviet had been sunk in, why not recycle the remnant ill-feeling to tie it to China?

Excellent piece Ron, many thanks, and congrats for having identified Hua as a fine analyst

I fully agree Chinese economy is really becoming highly developed ; when you travel in China, you can only realize how much this country is advanced.
Some specific points:
– flats in new buildings are really large (at least under european large city standards) – whilst thirty years ago people were frequently leaving in a single room for three generations, most new flats are between 90 and 120 square meters. One remaining problem being the cost; I was told flats could cost 5000€ per square meter, hence need to take debt on a very long duration.
-whilst city traffic is very intense, and complex with really huge numbers of cars, motorbikes, cycles, (and pedestrians !) it works very well, and you barely see jams – when travelling through XiAn (8 million), Chengdu (15 million) and ChongKing (15 million), we only had one 10 minutes jam, due to heavy work for subway construction
– large cities are being equipped with dense rapid transit subway lines; above mentioned towns have 10 lines already running, and are each targeting 20 lines in the near future.
– personal security feeling is high, whilst there is much less (uniformed) police staff to be seen than in US or Europe
– to say the least, car- and bike-drivers are not following all road code prescriptions; e. g. I saw many ‘exceptional’ U-turns, or turn-left through the other way (without accident, as every driver is always adapting its driving to the other drivers’ initiatives), showing that the ‘surveillance state’ is not fully efficient yet (or in place).

For a western traveller, cost of life in China is minimal, which would show that today’s currency rates may not be sustainable.

Recently announces energy projects in China
– a new huge dam in Tibet, which would represent 3 or 4 times the famous Three Gorges one
– a solar plant in space, with power thansmission to China through micro-waves, representing as much as the famous Three Gorges dam.

A recent video with Jeffrey Sachs:
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?pglt=299&q=breaking+down+the+china+collapse+theory+with+jeffrey+sachs&cvid=e44f350e97da4756b26a695f23bec81f&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOdIBCTIxNzk4ajBqMagCALACAA&PC=HCTS&ru=%2fsearch%3fpglt%3d299%26q%3dbreaking%2bdown%2bthe%2bchina%2bcollapse%2btheory%2bwith%2bjeffrey%2bsachs%26cvid%3de44f350e97da4756b26a695f23bec81f%26gs_lcrp%3dEgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOdIBCTIxNzk4ajBqMagCALACAA%26FORM%3dANNTA1%26PC%3dHCTS&mmscn=vwrc&mid=6965EA795C4541609C596965EA795C4541609C59&FORM=WRVORC&ntb=1&msockid=f996d2d2d25311efa79160c2ccd46fcf

Regarding Führer Xi Jin Ping:
The Great Chinese Leader very warmly welcomed the construction of yet another Jewish holohoax museum in Shanghai…
(His counterpart in Moscow even gave a month presidential salary for „the world’s“ largest holohoax muse um).
Engagement with the holohoax as a representation of „bad European history“, and the kind of denegrading of Europe (and Germany in particular) is an established Chinese way to foster its self-esteem and righteousness to construct China as a much more civilized place than Europe, (whose patents Chinese ignore or alter), because savages do not need to be respected economically or spiritually; one of many examples where the Chinese way is very much the Angloamerican way.
(The fake that China saved Jews (during their Second Jewish World War), when Japan actually ruled Shanghai, runs parallel to their Anti-Nazi blender propaganda supporting the Jewish regime of Russia, while supplying the Jewish regime on Ukraine. Jews and Chinese are the big profiteers of yet another war in Europe.)

China was also very happy to sign the Jewnighted Nations migration pact, because it doest not grip with China but destroys whatever harmony is left in others. With 92 % as Han Chinese it is amusement to have a theme park for others.

China promised to protect Syria… and did nothing.

Fact is that the ruling Chinese party was built by Jews (like elsewhere in the BRICS) and China dances to the Jews’ tune and watches and actually fosters their genocides around the world. Their first leader was a Moses Tung; fight name Mao Tse Tung.

China is matter over mind; greed, greed and more greed; family greed in particular!
The Chinese family stands above the commune (re. micro corruption); it is my family and everyone else can go and eat …
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, seems hardly the Chinese way abroad. The Chinese way abroad looks very Jewish. In foreign lands they do what they do not like foreigners to do in China, apart from special ones.

No salvation comes from pork fed China and no war will come from China unless they are triggered like The Russian Federation is; Chinese (families) are far to stingy and self-centered for a war of sacrifice.
“With Jews & Chinese the margin of necessary profit is impossible for honest business,” one Anglo-American business leader once said (and died soon afterwards).

Regarding Carl Schmitt:

Interestingly Leo Strauss studied in Germany under Carl Schmitt, the chief Nazi legal scholar and political theorist.

“The Jew has a parasitic, tactical and commercial relationship to our intellectual work,� Schmitt said.

Re: Opium Wars

All Chinese know the sordid history of the Sassoons.

You are certainly the vilest, most hate-crazed and moronic racist thug that I have encountered for some time.

If China had an Arab/subcon/black African mass immigration problem – don’t sneer it’s perfectly possible that it might happen in the future, all it needs is a bad leader, the living standard differentials and the shouts of capitalists for ‘cheap labor’ are already in existence, experience in the west tells us that when combined with dumb shit politicians, it is an immovable force – then no doubt Han nationalism would be a huge thing. The only difference I suspect would be that the Chinese people would mete out extreme organised actual physical violence against the ‘foreign devils’ once the proclivities of these aliens becomes widely understood and well known.

Obviously, at least in my opinion, Roberts is a lying, racist, Sinophobe. The use of ‘Peking’ instead of Beijing is racist arrogance. Mao proclaimed the PRC FORTY years before 1989, not thirty, so he’s a moron or deliberately being insulting. There were NO killings in the Square, as numerous Western eye-witnesses attested, as did US diplomatic personnel, as revealed in Wikileaks.
So of course NO killings went on for days. Roberts appears to me to be a typical English racist liar, arrogant and thinking that it is still 1839. Christ, I am enjoying the UK’s demise.

This Thucydides Trap sounds like crap. Not that such traps don’t form in history but that they inevitably lead to war.

Plenty of hegemonic empires retreated or de-escalated conflict without war.

If the trap is true, the Soviet Union would have fought to the last when its control was slipping. Instead, Gorbachev let go of the empire and Eastern Europe went its own way. And Yeltsin sought good ties with the West. Russia didn’t go the route as urged on by Zhirinovsky(the notorious ‘anti-semite’ who some said was really Jewish, I dunno).

Also, the great Ch’ing Dynasty of China, long the hegemon in Asia, submitted to Western demands without putting up much resistance in the 19th century.

WWII could be seen as a Thucydides Trap that led to war between Germany and USSR, but the war wasn’t inevitable. Hitler and Stalin could have gotten along had they been wiser.

And the British Empire understood its twilight was near after WWII. There were pockets of imperial resistance and pushback, but sooner than later, the British retreated from its hegemonic role. And before them, the Ottoman Empire also knew when its time was up. It had been in decline for over a century, and the Ottomans understood their time was up, esp after World War I. There was no desperate gamble to maintain hegemony.

If China and US were near, like Germany and USSR in WWII, the Thucydides Trap idea may be more plausible, but in fact they are far apart. The only reason for the tension is the US is still in the Asian Pacific as the result of its victory in WWII and the Cold War that was rationale, sound or unsound, for America’s continuing presence in the region.
Still, China wants to do business with the US, and its only real point of contention with the US is over Taiwan, the provocations around which are entirely made by the US.

Thus, I see less of a trap than an entrapment, or the Thucydides Entrapment, which is utterly unnecessary.

It might also be called the Paul’s Grandfather Trap. In A HARD DAY’S NIGHT, the old man who plays “Paul’s grandfather” is said to be a ‘mixer’, turning everyone against each other.

The difference is striking:

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/former-official-regulator-sentenced-death-by-china-corruption-2022-06-02/

https://www.business-standard.com/world-news/china-largest-corruption-case-li-jianping-executed-anti-graft-124121700673_1.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/former-china-deputy-central-bank-head-gets-suspended-death-sentence-taking-2024-10-10/

Now, if only corruptocrats in the US were so treated.

This essay captures so much of truth (half way through it) about the difference between the Chinese economy and that of the modern economically decadent West, punctuated by some very amusing (yet tragic) economic anecdotes.

China surveyed the options for maximising their benefit from being handed Western markets by the global banker enforcers and they made a feast of it. They created a fierce economic competitor to the West by leaving ideology to the side and using all that was best in the world experience. In so doing they created a highly internally and expernally competitive, super-efficient economic model that patriots of the West can only dream of.

BTW, I reckon that the voice version of the essay is done by AI, using an imprint of Ron Unz’s voice. How else to explain the pronounciation of Thames as “THAIMES”, not to mention the seeming impossibility of Ron Unz finding the time to do it?

Something amusing about The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion and Google:

I wondered if someone could get a quick summary, or ten-point bullet-list that provided a quickie synopsis of that book. You can search 10 full pages of Google results and you will not get a summary of the “Protocols”. Only articles denouncing it as an old hoax. That is not by chance.

I disagree with your points 1 and 2. China is the first big country in ages to offer Africa a fair deal. The US continues to try to smash everything in Africa, and to split Asia.

The United States Navy controls the Belt. Only maybe, and then only until some of those Nebbish-class carriers go down with all hands.

I just checked it out. Canadian guy. Clear and concise, and links to his sources.

The OIL resource IS the main reason for creating chaos in the ME by the West! Dr Hudson has implied in his interviews that “the west (specifically Britain the mother of all evils) has set up a wild dog on leash in the region to reinforce their total control of this resource�!
Since WWII the western world knows that it will NOT survive for long without this resource until a substitute energy resources, non-nuclear, has been invented or created!
In recent decade China has become a serious competitor with the West over this resource in the ME region and she’s becoming more favorable to deal with than the West thus causing the hatred for Chinese in addition to hatred for the people of the ME region amongst the officials in the West and its allies!

“CCP� and “CPC.� They seem to say exactly the same thing.

I would say it is like using the term “Nazi”. 99% of the time, it is used in a derogatory fashion. So folks who subscribe to the ideology prefer to call themselves NSDAP or National Socialists which does not have the same automatic negative associations.

It is also similar to using the word “regime” for a government that one does not approve of.

I agree with Walt King, that CCP is a rather reliable way to distinguish those who are inculcated with anti Chinese propaganda. 99% of the time it is used in a derogatory fashion.

Folks who want to express a more neutral poistion would just refer to the “Chinese Government”. Those who choose CCP do it for a reason. They wish to show their disapproval of said government.

For China’s under consumption .. it can’t help it. The Chinese people’s total income is only 35% of the country’s GDP, as compared to 65-75% for most Western nations. LOL!

Comparing the US housing bubble to the US one is a fool’s errand. The real comparison is with Japan’s housing bubble of 4 decades ago. Something which Japan is still feeling the aftereffects off. LOL!!!!

and even Japan did not go so far as to build enough housing units to house TWICE it’s population … like in the more recent Chinkland’s real estate bubble.

as for Westerners living and posting video’s of their experiences in Chinkland, a good chunk of that is produced by “useful idiots”, paid promoters and is called “slopaganda” by these guys

Video Link

People in the West, such as Ron Unz, have to wade through lots of propaganda to get at the truth. Yes, it takes effort, but I still like that better than in China where most Western websites are off limits.

I have been to China and the West/USA many times.

I would say it is far easier for Chinese to get a VPN and access western sites.

Than it is for a Westerner to penetrate the endless smoke screens to get a fair view of China.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

There is no point taking anyone’s word for it. I could be a “CCP Shlll” for all you know.

So I urge you to go to visit China to experience if for yourself. Have a chat with a few folks over a beer, and see if they know more about the West than the average Westerner knows about China.

‘Sarcasm is the lowest form of humour’, and I missed it. Is that an excuse?

Jaybird (how’s that naked housework going)the Chinese have their own sources. China is more free than the West, just so long as you do not break the law or plot against the Government. The same as everywhere. The Chinese hold thousands of demonstrations, even riots, every year to protest inequity and where appeals to the local authorities have not worked. Those authorities are required to address the popular discontent, or they are replaced. You’ve been brainwashed I fear. As for ‘libertarianism’ it’s just another euphemism for narcissistic greed. Freedom only extends to where it encroaches on the freedom of others, and that is contradictory to ‘libertarianism’.

It’s CPC, racist. Hu was ill and aged, racist. The CPC had Nothing to do with the US bio-warfare attack, CiViD19, but be the intended target, racist. The USA is the acknowledged world lear in IP theft, racist. WHAT South China Sea shennanigans, racist? Mao was nowhere near the greatest murderer in history-exactly the opposite, racist. Oh, as well as being a vicious racist, you’re a stinking God-botherer, too. Poor Gawd Awmighty-the scum he does attract.

Similarly, when I was young the MSM always used “Moslem� and then they suddenly switched to “Muslim.� No one I’ve ever asked has really known why.

As far as I can tell, Arabic has only three vowels (though each can be long or short, so it’s six). These days, they are transliterated as A, I and U (the distinction between long and short is lost).
There are rare exceptions in which this system is not used: Hezbollah, Osama.

Excellent, Ron. Thank you for introducing this man to us, happy to subscribe to his Substack. I don’t know what it will take to break our neocon government’s hold on Americans when it comes to understanding China. The tone of our government, having become fully militarized and institutionally corrupt, is now jewish zionism. With Trump now in office our conversion to the Satanic ideology is complete.

Libertarian is the facade of the ‘god-fearing’ morally defunct evil ‘Puritan’ cult

You are projecting what I said! I said that I come closer to libertarian than other beliefs. I am far from a cultist. Read my reply to Col Dolma on religion. I mostly subscribe to Eastern Philosophy. Does that sound like I am some cultist??? FYI, I am libertarian in that I don’t like government control over people’s lives.

Chinese can access Western information

I don’t believe that people in China can just access Facebook, Google, etc on demand. They normally have to use a VPN and they can get in trouble for doing that!

unlike the West which blocks their people’s view about China and the rest of the world with thick-weaved anti-China propaganda and national security fake news

But that is not the point!!!!! People in the West, such as Ron Unz, have to wade through lots of propaganda to get at the truth. Yes, it takes effort, but I still like that better than in China where most Western websites are off limits.

It’s probably a bit of both,

I agree.

They have been down on their luck for the last 2 or 300 years. They deserve a bit of a break. The ball can’t keep landing on black on the roulette table forever.

So you are right, there is more to it than just luck. If we look at their history, how the present form of China dated back to circa 200 BC, and how they watched the rise and fall of the Romans, Parthians, Arabs, Ottomans, Spanish, Dutch, British etc….their longevity cannot be attributable all to luck.

All these other states had one high point. The Romans/Italians maybe had two (Roman Republic/Empire and Italian Renaissance/Baroque). The Persians/Parthians maybe also had two. But the Chinese had at least 4 high points in their civilisation (Han, Tang, Song, Ming). Every time it breaks apart, it somehow manages to rebuild itself to a new high point.

There is something in their society that enables to constitute themselves after a catastrophic fall.

J.M. Roberts, renowned British historian and Warden of Merton College, Oxford, has the following take on modern Chinese history:

“…The student leaders had moved the focus of their efforts to an encampment in Peking in Tiananmen Square, where, thirty years before, Mao had proclaimed the foundation of the People’s Republic. From one of the gates of the old Forbidden City a huge portrait of him looked down on the symbol of the protesters: a plaster figure of a ‘Goddess of Democracy’, deliberately evocative of New York’s Statue of Liberty. On 2 June [1989] the first military units entered the suburbs of Peking on their way to the square. There was resistance with extemporized weapons and barricades. They forced their way through.
On 4 June the students and a few sympathizers were overcome by rifle-fire, teargas, and a brutal crushing of the encampment under the treads of tanks which swept into the square.
Killing went on for some days, mass arrests followed (perhaps as many as ten thousand in all)…â€�

(p. 912, J.M. Roberts, History of the World [Oxford University Press, 1993]).

“Killing went on for some days…� 🤦�♂�

But as we know from Unz’s America Pravda work and specifically the article by Jay Mathews, Beijing bureau chief for The Washington Post, who was there in 1989 and covered the Tiananmen demonstrations:

“…as far as can be determined from the available evidence, no one died that night [June 4, 1989] in Tiananmen Square… The resilient tale of an early morning Tiananmen massacre stems from several false eyewitness accounts in the confused hours and days after the crackdown…â€� (Jay Mathews, “The Myth of Tiananmenâ€�, Columbia Journalism Review, June 4, 2010).

If a renowned British historian at Merton College, Oxford University simply regurgitates a CIA fabrication on a major recent historical event, how, pray tell, can we trust him or any historian on anything??

My God! What a long-winded self serving ‘artistically’ punctuated presentation from the (ex?) Russian!

Browder was a parasite, steeply immersed in the cynicism from both the CPUSA (whose leadership was essentially Judaic (albeit with mostly Irish frontmen), probably more than any CP in the West) and his very Judeic family breeding. He’s little more than a dissipated, parasitic, lying, Jew of the Madoff &etc etc etc ilk.

Wiki:

Browder’s paternal grandfather Earl Browder was born in Kansas in 1891.[1] He was a radical and had lived in the Soviet Union for several years from 1927 and married Raisa Berkman, a Jewish Russian woman while living there.[1] After his return to the United States in 1931,[1] Earl Browder became the leader of the Communist Party USA from 1930 to 1945 and ran for U.S. president in 1936 and 1940.[9] After World War II, Browder lost favour with Moscow and was expelled from the U.S. Communist Party.[1]

Earl and his wife Raisa had three children, all sons, and all three became mathematicians who headed the mathematics departments of top American universities,[1] including Bill Browder’s father Felix Browder, who married Eva (Tislowitz). Felix was a mathematics prodigy who had entered MIT at 16, acquired his bachelor’s degree in two years, and by the age of 20 received a Ph.D. from Princeton.[1] But during the McCarthy era, he could not find work because he was the son of the onetime head of the Communist Party USA.[20][21] After a series of job rejections in the 1950s, he was championed by Eleanor Roosevelt, the former First Lady who was then chairman of the board of Brandeis University; she overrode the rest of the board who were afraid to hire him, and he gained a position at Brandeis.[1] Felix went on to chair the mathematics department at the University of Chicago, and in 1999 became the president of the American Mathematical Society.[1]

(The bit about Eleanor Roosevelt and Brandeis is a bonus point.)

Here’s a translation from the Romanian of a far more serious opposition to the subversive, “righteous”, kleptocratic parasites:

Georgescu:

My position is as follows: the time has come when we are no longer on our knees in front of anyone except God (JM: Atheists take note of the unifying power of this statement/appeal!), because God is the father of the Romanian nation, not Rothschild and not Soros.

All Chinese government publications and news media in English refer to the “Communist Party of China”, and the CPC. It’s just an observable fact that when someone writes CCP then nine times out of ten they are having an anti-China rant.

Just check back above!

“Chinese statistics which of course have no credibility, given China’s utter lack of any actual opposition party, independent media, or checks and balances that provide institutional power and incentive to expose official lies. ”

No, poor Chinese, they do not have our admirable “opposition party, independent media, or checks and balances that provide institutional power and incentive to expose official lies.”….

We can’t make decisive changes al at once. We need to take one step at a time inspired by China. For example:

There are 1.33 million lawyers in the US (pop.340 mil.) vs. 650,000 in China (pop. 1.4 billion).

We need to execute 1 million lawyers, the selection to be done by lottery.

3 million grassroot officials were dispatched to rural areas to live and work on site for “targeted poverty alleviation� in the countryside from 1 to 3 years. 1 trillion RMB ($150 billion) was invested.

Upon election, US Congress representatives will be sent to states like W Virginia, Arkansas, Tennessee and Mississippi to live and work on site for “targeted poverty alleviation� for 4 years before being sworn in for one term only. Elections should be immediately held for the next batch to be sent on site until the term of the first expires.
This program also discourages all but the most dedicated public servant candidates.

Anyone claims he is a certain ideologist; he is a cult member with a predefined binary mindset and a rigid dogma detached from reality. In a cult member’s view, anyone who does not fit his perceived framework is evil and must be destroyed.

Libertarian is the facade of the ‘god-fearing’ morally defunct evil ‘Puritan’ cult, so they can bomb and kill on the fabricated WMD allegation as humanitarian aid. That is what the Americans and their lackeys have been doing in the last few centuries.

Google, Wikipedia, Western MSM, NGOs, academia, and their forbears are propaganda machinery to promote the Western civilization with false pathos, insincere heroism, and demonization the others like China, Muslims, etc. 99.99% of the Westerners do not know Chinese, their knowledge about China is based on the fabrications through the thin air by the racists like Montesquieu, Max Weber, Edward Harper Parker, etc.

You are projecting. Chinese can access Western information, unlike the West which blocks their people’s view about China and the rest of the world with thick-weaved anti-China propaganda and national security fake news. Indeed, it will be the Chinese loss if they cannot access Western information, then the Chinese will not know the real ugly face, racist and hypocritical the West is.

I more or less conclude that if the US attacks China from Guam, Diego, or any other colonized countries, China will immediately target the head of the Beast. Imagine that, a US war on US soil!

So you have the heat, but it’s in the wrong place. I hope great minds are at work on this. Seriously: too many people are focused on electricity, when heat is what we get and what we want. Any news about a heat superconductor?

“…utter lack of any actual opposition party, independent media, or checks and balances that provide institutional power and incentive to expose official lies” well yeah ok but you just described the modern West we all know this but what about China?

4) the science and technology that has prospered China has primarily been STOLEN from American/Canadian companies and universities

You are just regurgitating another American myth. Check out this link,

MASS DISINFORMATION IN THE TRADE WAR LEADS TO A GUILTY WITHOUT EVIDENCE TREND by Manuel Lee

https://silkscreen9.blogspot.com/2020/09/new-blog.html

8) Confuscism is no way equivalent to the revealed Word of God…salvations is ONLY acheived through accepting Christ as personal lord and saviour…

I respect your belief system. I have studied Eastern philosophy and , to a smaller extend, studied Western religions including Christianity. I can state with near certainty that the Bible, both the Old Testament and the New Testament, are written 99% by MEN, I repeat, by MEN. Years, decades and even centuries pass, and scribes and writers recount the tales from the sages, the rabbis, and the Apostles. Perhaps a few of the writers were inspired by God, but the vast majority were common men like you and me. The writers of the New Testament supposedly never ever met the Apostles. The early Church Fathers held councils to determine the official creed. Needless to say, the Church placed themselves as the connection to God, and the average person will then need the Church for salvation. In reality, the Church promoted themselves to this position, knowing that the scribes were common men, like themselves. Those people who do not contribute money to the Church or who don’t submit to the power of the Church were punished severely.

On the other hand Eastern Philosophy is more or less based on observations on nature, on observations on human nature, and on philosophy. It is more evidence based and more humanistic and more tolerant. In general, a better recipe for life than Western Religions. Eastern Philosophy does not define God, that God is impossible to define, but still allow one to live in the world respecting all living things. In the Western Religion God is some great all knowing being in the sky that must be obeyed by following the rules of the Church. You may buy that but I prefer a more philosophical approach to life.

If you’re planning to come to China soon, I suggest you consider looking up food guides to make sure you’re eating what you like.
It is best to go out at night after a full stomach, otherwise it may be attracted by roadside night snacks and lead to eating too much food.
Having an Alipay or wechat solves most problems, and most people don’t have cash on them, so it’s hard to get change.
We basically don’t have a tipping culture here. You don’t need to tip.

I caught your reply and funny that you mentioned Mafiosi moving to Sweden back in your ’12 article. They came out with a TV show called ‘Lilyhammer’ around that time about a New York mobster moving to Norway under a witness protection angle and running a new criminal enterprise up there. Steven Van Zandt of Soprano’s fame starred. I didn’t watch it. I’ll try to see it some day.
I’ve also never been to Sicily but they say it’s beautiful. I don’t know how strong the Mafia is there currently but I’m sure it still exists. Italian society in general has tried to emulate their northern European co-billigerants in cutting out corruption. That might be an improvement but I was back to Italy after many years and it’s changed, and not necessarily for the better. As you’ve stated, macro corruption is worse than the micro kind.

In fact, I think it should have nothing to do with the textbook problem, maybe it is the language problem.
Information density carried by language.
The English version of the same book will be a thick one, but the Chinese version will be very thin.
My high school physics won the first place in the region, basically relying on constantly brushing papers and questions to obtain proficiency.

A word to the uninitiated, to save your time.

As soon as you see the incorrect CCP acronym for the Communist Party of China, the CPC, just scroll on to the next comment.

China celebrates and promotes its 55 recognised minorities, the shaoshu minzu, even to the extent during the One Child period of allowing them up to three children, not really an effective tactic for pursuing genocide.

If ever in Shenzhen be sure to visit the Splendid China Folk Village.

” The park’s theme reflects the history, culture, art, ancient architecture, customs and habits of various nationalities.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splendid_China_Folk_Village

Oh yeah, I forgot about state ownership of the land. Interesting point. I sometimes wonder if the Chinese are truly that smart or if they just got lucky. It’s probably a bit of both, but China works. After living there for 3 years, I noticed that stuff just works there. The buses and trains are on time, the subways work, things just get done. By contrast, nothing works in India and nothing gets done. Sadly, Canada isn’t much better either and is steadily getting worse.

Hopefully for everyone’s sake the Chinese people can keep doing great things.

It is disappointing that the Hua Bin post doesn’t seem to give clear examples of how the Chinese science and technology leadership positions were determined in the study. Normally this is done by counting the number of papers or patents, but in the modern world these metrics are not so reliable. Citations may be a better metric but a knowledgable and unbiased expert needs to weigh in to make a meaningful ranking. As everyone knows, knowledgable and unbiased experts are as common as unicorns. I believe that China may be ahead in the fields listed, though in several this is not obvious from what is currently known. These include aerospace and electronics.

This is great! There’s nothing better for the credibility of taboo theories than to see them through the eyes of an outside perspective. Your iran interviews were excellent but iran diesn’t command the same awe and inspiration as China.

I wonder if there are Chinese physics textbooks which are considered the best in the world, even in translation? These could cover standard material such as books by Jackson (Electrodynamics) or Theoretical Physics (pick one) by Landau and Lifshitz. More interesting and probably more likely are serious graduate texts at the cutting edge of certain fields which immediately became the worldwide standard source for course material.

Can Unz readers recommend a few such books by Chinese authors? What are the notable differences in pedagogy between highly technical Chinese and Western works, if any?

Some of the most interesting Chinese textbooks may not be translated into Western languages. Does machine translation work effectively for technical material?

Joking or not? The USAF never used the F-14 (Navy only), though the Iranian Air Force still does. It’s a strange world, no? The F-14 was optimized for attacking long-range bombers from US Navy carriers. It was a complex airplane and reportedly maintenance intensive. The bomber attack mission priority faded after 1991. The F-15 is still a great plane with very similar technology level to the F-14, but without the swing wing.

The Navy considered a carrier-based evolution of the F-22. They also tried to build the stealth A-12 Avenger II which was canceled, supposedly due to high cost. They probably wish they had it now, assuming stealth is actually worth the trouble. So that leaves them with the F-18 which is a design with roots in the mid-1960’s as a low-cost fighter.

Something about school culture.
Our students here circle the stars like planets around those who do well in school.
And we basically treat the muscle men in the bodybuilding community as a joke with a bad brain.

The America/Canadian whites are getting old and going off into the sunset. By 2050, there will not be enough whyrs to carry on the economy, military, infrastructure, government! ..collapse of the West..?

Not to worry. There are still territories they can steal. Greenland is a great choice.

The only trouble for the Canadians is that after they help the Americans to steal Greenland, they will in turn be cannibalized as the 52nd state.

51st has a much punchier ring to it. Maybe they should offer themselves now, and beat the Greenlanders to the title.

Thucydides lesson: a land based country wins over a maritime country.

And there is no such thing as the Thucydides trap. In fact the Athenians became victims of their hubris and imperialism.

every bookstore I visited had a little altar devoted to Xi with his recent publications … hard to take such country seriously.

I feel the same, almost the same. You have to be careful. I think most Chinese are smarter than that, and just put up with with Xi’s books and picture sitting around, just to run the business smoothly without trouble from the authorities.

There is also another aspect.

In China, all land is owned by the state, but is leased out for for different purposes. If a entrepreneur wants to build a factory, he can bribe the local officials to help him out. In this case, the official is incentivised to help MOVE the endeavour faster, clearing the way all along the bureaucratic chain. A factory can be built in months. This was the situation in the past. We have cause to believe that the situation has been alleviated somewhat.

In India, land is already privately owned, so officials are incentivised to STALL the project instead to force a bribe to be offered. This takes place all along the bureaucratic chain, holding up the project for years. There has been no effort to clean up the situation.

In the USA, land is privately owned. But unfortunately so are the officials. So no matter how much the entrepreneur is willing to bribe the official, it is small money compared to what the oligarchs can muster. As we have recently $2 million can even buy the highest executive of the land. There is no hope for the entrepreneur to change the local planning or industrial or environmental laws, so the entrepreneur would rather go to China or Vietnam where the same factory can be built in months.

Unenlightened Chinaman trying to deflect that his people are the lowest human forms in Asia. Gangsters without any ethics whatsoever.

As living beings your lives are still sacred. We wish you the best, if only you could get on the path to enlightenment and leave the path to hell you are on.

Many thanks for that.

I feel much safer in China now than before.

Rather less so, though, while in the Philippines.

stopped about a third through… too many words, Ron, but whose counting(Ron for one)…..my take
1)this s0-called casual observer is really a propaganda mouthpiece for the CCP… congrats Ron, you exponentially grown his exposure
2) aah the calm ominpresent Confuscious ideology… where was that ideology when the carted that old party member off in public humiliation at their CCP congress… anyone heard from that old dude???
3) CCP was complicit in covid genocide
4) the science and technology that has prospered China has primarily been STOLEN from American/Canadian companies and universities
5) perhaps the old Chinese culture was not imperialist and the old China got a raw deal from the British (Rotschild) East India company and the Japanese imperialist war on them…the new CCP is as imperialistic if not moreso than any other on the planet save Israhell and JSA it poodle bitch..witness the South China Sea shenanigans
6) Mao, contender for largest mass murderer in history was set up by the Jews to set up a communist one world state… he succeeded
7) USA had a series of whoring so called presidents that sold out our industry, technologies and jobs to China… .Clinton ” that depends on the definition of sex” comes to mind but sure there were others.
8) Confuscism is no way equivalent to the revealed Word of God…salvations is ONLY acheived through accepting Christ as personal lord and saviour…frankly if we would return to Christ and His Word we would have no competitors in either the material realm or the spiritual… sadly this is not the case… witness the moral and physical calamity that is the USA
Finally, my greatest curiosity pertains to the inevitable conflict between world khazarian banker mafia(otherwise known as anglo zio west, WEF and NATO) verses the CCP… Putin is clearly chabbad puppet… so only remains to see if XI is…Did Mao’s Jew handlers reach as far as Xi or did Jared Kushner’s children learned Mandarin in vain?
Even so, come quickly Lord Jesus.

Spent a few weeks in China last December.
Infrastructure is really impressive, especially in Shanghai.
At the same time … it is virtually impossible to but a foreign newspaper,
every bookstore I visited had a little altar devoted to Xi with his recent publications … hard to take such country seriously.
Maybe we can not beat them, but chances are they will beat themself.

American and british should stop their stupid and very narcistic, supremastic views of thinking they know better than anybody else and better than non-american and non-british. In reality american and british are just bunch of morons who know nothing. People naively get bought by them, because they think american and british constantly pushing their ideas and their views know better. They dont even know where Russia, China or any other countries are on a map. They are really just complete idiots who know nothing.

I think the Confucian ideal is more about saving face than Kant’s categorical imperative. My Chinese wife has just rung me. I must dash off. China is a shameless place of public corruption.

You are probably right.

More important, he is at least not hysterical because of on going US-Russia conflict regarding Ukraine.
In comparison, US MSM is hysterical toward China as well as Chinese because of US-China competition.

Great article. You can already see MSM getting its US citizens ready for war. Every article about China is negative – hacking, taking our manufacturing, EVs, underpriced goods, communism, etc. Importantly, they do not report about how the Chinese feel about their government vs how we feel about our government.

Is this a joke, or a sad example of lifelong brainwashing?

I am libertarian more than anything else. As such, I am negative on one party rule, or two party rule. But one party rule oppresses the individual the most. If one party rule worked in China, ok, but for long term stability, I believe that China needs to allow for more breathing room. I am sure that you, or anyone else, had at one time, wanted to look up a certain topic on the internet, in order to make an informed decision. In China one does not have the luxury of looking up Google Scholar, for example. A loss for Chinese researchers.

I guess your sarcasm meter is broken.

Of course, in his case, it’s not only the product of ignorance, but also of attitude.

Thank you Kevin. The small City of London, NY CBD and Zurich CBD are Jewish real estates. Happy 2025.

Pack/hive/herd mentality low order unenlightened humans use to subjugate others. Otherwise known as gangs. Chinese specialize in this low order human gang mentality.

You’re projecting your own tribal predilection for herd mentality as proven by the anarchic history of White Europeans. That’s why your White European ancestors couldn’t organize themselves into powerful States with a centralized authority, unlike the Han Chinese who created the longest lasting Imperial State in world history. Even your so-called “White Nationalists� in the past such as the German Nazis and Italian Fascists behaved more like street gangs led by stupid thugs like Hitler and Mussolini, respectively, whose only proven skills are their ability to appeal to “pack/hive/herd mentality low order unenlightened humans used to subjugate others� which is the defining characteristic of the populist, right-wing “White Nationalist� demagoguery that still persists to this day. White Europeans haven’t really outgrown their primitive tribalism as proven by their “low order human gang mentality�.

The Chinese State in contrast is run by a highly educated, highly intelligent and highly disciplined political class of intellectuals and technocrats, meticulously selected based on a meritocratic system. White Europeans like to deride the Chinese System as “authoritarian� because what they have is not “democracy� but anarchy or “low order human gang mentality�. Your words not mine.

Red China has unlimited manpower, low coolie wages, and stolen technology that they can reverse engineer..!
The America/Canadian whites are getting old and going off into the sunset. By 2050, there will not be enough whyrs to carry on the economy, military, infrastructure, government! ..collapse of the West..?

“Four decades ago, the United States bankrupted the Soviet Union by forcing it to devote ever more of its economy to defense while neglecting the welfare of its citizens. ”

Interesting. Do explain how the US forced Russia to devote more to military spending. That doesn’t even make any sense.

He knows that the Chinese gov’t is capable of taking care of their people by themselves and the US gov’t isn’t. Moreover, he probably mistakenly thinks of the US as a fellow White country.

Well, they weren’t paid to produce a report concluding that a war with China cannot be won by the US, were they?

All the US officials I’ve seen on MSM commenting on this hypothetical conflict mentioned that when they wargamed it out the US lost every time. The US can’t deal with the Houthis in Yemen, so I don’t see the US being able to win against China. Not in a short conflict, not in a prolonged one. It doesn’t mean the US won’t try, sadly.

I posted my view of the one party system and of Xi wanting a huge legacy. Yet, I am generally positive about China. I find the loose talk of China stealing this and that technology not convincing. The official US government accusations may be even more exaggerated! Here is a short paper that explored this area,

MASS DISINFORMATION IN THE TRADE WAR LEADS TO A GUILTY WITHOUT EVIDENCE TREND by Manuel Lee

Summary: Most people in this country (the United States) believe that China “stole us blindâ€� for decades. Is there a lot of truth to this belief or is there just a little bit of truth? This short paper researches this topic, lays out the US government accusations, and displays the facts and evidences related to the accusations…………………….

As the title of this article indicates, the subject is not limited to China, but is related to the whole world and to the direction of justice in the world. Many people who read this article will be shocked by the vast discrepancy between the actual facts and the purported facts given out by the US government.

The link to this succinct paper can be found here,

https://silkscreen9.blogspot.com/2020/09/new-blog.html

Very true. America and now Britain but not in the past are racially mixed constructs. Racially mixed Mongol societies don’t last. Look at ancient history, Sodom and Gomorrah, Babylon, the Persian empire, the Roman empire, the Ottoman empire, the Spanish empire, the British empire. This pattern has played out through-out history.

How about American Soft Power?

The following pledge from a Russian governor with love suggests that the US is well ahead of China. The same governor makes no offer to Chinese earthquake victims.

“GENICHESK, January 13. /TASS/. The Kherson Region is prepared to take in California residents who lost their homes in the Los Angeles fires, provided they have neither given money to the Ukrainian army nor ever supported the current Kiev regime, Governor Vladimir Saldo told TASS.

“Despite the ongoing blatantly anti-Russian policy of the United States, we fully understand that natural disasters don’t care who you are, what you do. The California fires have left many ordinary residents homeless. Therefore, our region is ready to welcome any American citizen who has lost their home and livelihood. Naturally, this applies only to those who have not financed the Ukrainian army or supported the current Kiev regime, which has caused far more civilian casualties through its actions than the fires in LA,” Saldo said.

He specified that the regional authorities are ready to provide places in temporary accommodation centers for US citizens wishing to evacuate to the Kherson Region, as well as to help with obtaining Russian citizenship with eased requirements, if necessary.”

Why don’t you volunteer to lead the marines, you racist buffoon? You’ll be lucky, or not, to make it to Guam.

Is this a joke, or a sad example of lifelong brainwashing? One party rule means the absence of increasingly vicious partisanship in society, partisanship that hides the reality of oligarch rule by the owners of society. And how is a country ‘held back’, drongo, when it creates the greatest economic, welfare, scientific/technological leap in ALL history?

You see the Chinese and God bless them don’t believe in the overproduction bogey like the stupid red-coat wasps orcs and now the amerimutts. The krauts are so god-damn dumb.

Kevin Rudd, in my opinion, is a shit. His PMship was a disaster marred by his unabashed egotism and incompetence. As a former colleague said-‘If you don’t hate Kevin, you haven’t known him long enough’. Much better is Paul Keating, PM from 1991 to 1996, who takes scum like ASPI and its coterie of human-cane toad hybrids to task in no uncertain fashion.
To contemplate the treachery of Austfailia in turning so viciously on China, you must recall our racist past. We are an Anglo settler state after all, a situation reinforced recently by the triumph of the rawest and crudest race hatred, and lies, in the defeat of the Indigenous Voice referendum. The rise of China is an affront to all Western racial and cultural supremacists everywhere, but our national race hatred is particularly deranged.
Suppose we, the mighty Anglos, plus sundry underlings like the Philippines, Japan, South Korea etc do attack China (they’ll NEVER, as Keating often repeats, attack us). Suppose we ‘win’, and the open plans to vivisect China into a number of statelets a la Yugoslavia, the Soviet Union, and the open plans for Russia, go ahead. There goes the global economy and ours in particular, as we have tens of billions per annum in trade surpluses with China.
Or suppose, far more reasonably, the USA is crushed, and its bases all over northern Austfailia are obliterated- what then? It’s nassty but highly entertaining to contemplate. And that is the bi-partisan position of all the political parties capable of forming a Government in this country. And the race hatred is all-pervasive and scintillating. As for Rudd’s changed posture vis-a-vis Xi-Kevin is a born arse-kisser and bully, a true ‘kiss up, kick down’ thug with a volcanic temper for his underlings, seen during his PMship. Once he smelled the prevailing miasma in Thanatopolis DC, out came his forked tongue, to save his new ‘friends’ on toilet paper.

There’s a hell of a lot to unpack in this article, so I’ll just focus a bit on corruption. China is one of the most corrupt countries on earth, and for the longest time I couldn’t figure out how such a corrupt country could develop so rapidly. The key lies in understanding exactly what type of corruption is ubiquitous in China.

There’s two kinds of corruption: bribery and embezzlement. Bribery is about greasing the wheel to get things rolling. While not ideal, it is the lesser of two evils. Embezzlement is outright theft. It is bribery that is widely practiced in China, and is largely tolerated by the CCP. After all, there’s a big difference between accepting kickbacks from potential contractors and disappearing funds allocated for the construction of a school. In the case of the former, the school will still get built. The Chinese government has adopted a sort of daoist approach to corruption. It tolerates bribery (since it an unfortunate part of human nature) but severely punishes embezzlement.

Consider India by contrast. Indians, being a rather foolish people, foolishly divert their resources to tackling bribery but ignore embezzlement. They go after low hanging fruit in the form of low ranking bureaucrats, police officers etc while the upper echelons plunder the country with impunity. The Chinese, with their daoist pragmatism, tolerate (but still monitor) bribery while diverting resources to fighting embezzlement (which could paralyze development like in India and Pakistan).

Thanks for a very informative article! I am generally positive with regard to China, but I do see one major deficiency which is not generally mentioned. Maybe it is not mentioned because it is assumed to be obvious but I think it is important to mention and that it colors many things about China. That thing is that China has a one party government. This means that information and facts coming from the Chinese are likely to be unreliable. More importantly, China is actually held back, in economics and development and education, by a one party rule. That president Xi wants a legacy as important as Mao’s legacy is a bad sign because a one party system will allow him much lee way for his approach. A leader wanting a big legacy is CORRUPTION, not of money, but of spirit. I hope that the Chinese government will see that any leader building a legacy is a major corruption issue, and will cost the people money and resources.