“Hence, there is no human ethnic group that exhibits ethnic nepotism.”

Single dumbest sentence ever posted on Unz.

Also altruism is the wrong paradigm. Altruism is about sacrificing, laying down your life, etc. Giving your life for twenty six percent chance to save your nephew etc.

The father isn’t ‘sacrificing’ anything so all these ideas about some ‘altruism allele’ are silly. All things being equal, he wants baby carrying more of his genes. That is true if she breeds intra race. It’s that easy.

No ‘self sacrificing allele’ necessary.

From another angle: we all have these in-group/out-group genes for both recognition and affinity. They may not apply in a very safe environment of abundance, or when we’re with a subgroup with whom we feel even more unity (e.g. high IQs may feel more feel more affinity with each other vs. dumbs than they feel for their own race, but this is just another form of group selection or grouping on a clearly genetic trait)

Groups or peoples that didn’t have these instincts to group together and punish shirking went extinct pretty quickly. See: all of human history. And every person’s natural instincts (every person who is within a racial grouping…).

Is it possible a few people evolved to ‘shirk’? Yes, but a huge amount of human psychology is recognizing and punishing shirking, and tribes that were cowardly and prone to shirking…you guessed it, went extinct.

You can’t dismiss group selection when the bulk of human history is group warfare and group conquering. These events were the single biggest shifts in genes.

You seem to forget most genes have immense pleiotropy and the same for cognitive systems/traits. People who don’t ally with their group may not ally as necessary to even cooperate day to day and pass on their individual genes. People who shirk get shunned and may have not found a mate. See: most conversation among group members is most often gossip meant to detect shirking.

So this ideas that the shirking, ‘go at it alone’ allele is adaptive is silly. It gets punished brutally day to day in any small community or tribal setting. It may work in rare cases of anonymity that didn’t exist for most of history but over most of history group ties, group loyalty and low shirking (or very smart shirking) were necessary.

Do we have to group by “race”? No. It could be by any phenotype that seems relevant but for a lot of people the closest thing they can spot (and they’re mostly right according to DNA) is race.

Jayman:

Love your work but this is all hopelessly naive.

The entire history of humanity is genocide. Point blank. From a few million years of evolution only a couple branches from a couple hundred thousand years ago survived. War and conquering have been a constant even in recent millennia and centuries. It formed many of the races (Hispanics, Thais, Vietnamese etc. all were mostly X’s from indigenous and Y from conquerors from the north or across the ocean as the case may be).

Watch a few of those videos of empires over the past 10,000 years and the shift in territories. Look at WWII and Germans reuniting ethnic German territories, killing Jews, Jews plotting to kill Germany and all Germans in retaliation, etc.

We have strong genes to defend and fight for our race, because most of these major battles were between people that looked and acted different than we. It’s remarkably easy to spot the difference between dozens of ethnic sub-groups if you’ve done any traveling. And there’s no doubt those of us who aren’t a blend of everything feel when people share or don’t share our genes.

The fact that you’re a unique mix of every race may mean you love (or are strategically willing to ally with) every race and makes for uniquely insightful writing on HBD, but it also means you have no understanding of most people’s psychology.

As to specific theoretical arguments made, a lot of comments and a basic chart of PCA debunks these. We can very quickly tell those with whom we share genes, and historically when there was conflict or overcrowding people group up that way. It’s very obvious who on the tribe shirks war and who fights for their tribe/race etc. Desertion wasn’t treated any more hospitably before 10,000 bce.

And tribes / sub-races / groups that weren’t willing to fight or perhaps were less group conscious lost every time to those with more power and unity.

The whole of human psychology is based extremely strongly on in-group/out-group morality. Look at any religion. There is a reason groups and peoples with the religious, group-forming impulse survived to pass on their writing and genes. And the other groups went extinct. SEE: Old Testament. History of Islam. Any form of history.

Cute theory. But when it goes against all of human religion, impulse, psychology, and history, then maybe it’s time to admit it’s nothing more than a cute theory.

The Byzantine and Sassanian empires had been ravaged by plague and warfare. The Arabs ca. 650 found two demographically drained empires and filled the vacuum.

True story…back when I was an engineering undergrad there was this guy who was always walking around campus with this huge briefcase…he seemed definitely ‘older’ than average and seemed friendly enough, often engaging in discussions with random students lolling about on the leafy grounds…

I learned that he was supposedly a doctoral candidate in some field related to medicine…I found him to be rather talkative and friendly…but little of what he said about his ‘research’ made any sense…everyone I knew who had talked to him had the same impression…and everyone was very curious about what was actually in that huge briefcase [more like suitcase size]

As luck would have it…one day he told me that he was looking for a new place to stay…I told him to drop by the apartment I was sharing with two other fellows, as we were actually looking for a fourth roommate…

Well…he moved in and all three of us were just bursting with curiosity about finally getting a look at the contents of that briefcase…one evening we were all sitting around and we talked him into letting us have a look at his secretive ‘data’…

Each of us got a handful of pages and started looking through it, while the ‘wizard’ [as he was informally known on campus] talked us through the ‘research’ we were looking at…

It was amazing…the ‘data’ we were staring at was just a complete mishmash of completely random tables, charts, graphs and figures that had no rhyme or reason…and certainly no connection with one another…I mean it was just insane…this man was clearly bonkers…living in a world of his own…

The questions from the three of us started flying fast and furious and his ‘explanations’ were just complete gibberish…finally one guy just exploded in uncontrollable laughter…which was the trigger for me and the other guy…both of us exploding a split second later…

I never laughed like that in my life, before or since…it was actually starting to hurt…I wanted to stop because the look on this poor guy’s face made me feel so sorry, but I just couldn’t stop…neither could the other two…

We learned later that this guy wasn’t actually enrolled in any course and had nothing to do with any PhD…in fact he was an outpatient at the university hospital mental health center…

Now I know what happened to this guy…he has turned into a blogger going by the name Anatoly Karlin…

Hey Wiz…glad to see you are still kicking…hope the ‘research’ is coming along well…

Endurance without some minimal strength is useless for soldiers, because they have to carry their weapons and ammunition. Only the very strongest of women are capable of that, whereas it’s possible for the average guy. So for males you only need to cut off the leftmost part of the bell curve, while for women it’ll be the rightmost side of their bell. This means that while the majority of guys will be comfortably above the minimum, the majority of female soldiers will be just barely above the minimum requirements. I.e. not only will be there less women, but even they will be on average worse than guys.

Then female psychology will be the absolute deal breaker.

That’s adorable – good for them!

Had no idea there were a dwarf olympics!

Peace.

I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I will note that the one athletic quality where women outperform men is in “fatigue resistance”. It appears that at ultra-long distance running, the average women probably has higher capacity than the average man. Whether that translates into having better psychological resolve as a soldier is an open question.

https://www.unm.edu/~lkravitz/Article%20folder/fatigueUNM.html

Any info on Native Americans? Anecdotally they would seem to be higher than Europeans. They’re the only race with higher proportion representation in the US Special Forces than whites. They’re also known for producing some incredible athletes, like Jim Thorpe.

#it’salltheatre.

Indian athletes win big at World Dwarf Games, bag 37 medals

Don’t believe it. That was a spur of the moment outburst and Seinfeld and the rest of them dropped him like a hot potato. Wasn’t in the script.

Barr is different. She probably pulled that as a publicity stint.

Absolutely. A Jew would never have had an outburst onstage like that.

A Jewish “actor” would, because, well, that’s his job.

“The first rule of fight club…”

Yep Truth brings out a good point, as much as I like wikipedia, who knows what’s true or bogus in that site.

A Jew would never have had an outburst onstage like that.

Really? Roseanne Barr did it on the internet, but she did it. That Jeff is a ‘bigoted’ remark. lol
Pacino is Italian, all Sicilian I believe.
It’s interesting to observe his career path and how doubting people like me can be critical or sarcastic, and I was a big Pacino rooter when I was young. But it’s curious that he wins a Tony award for an obscure play with a sexy title ‘The Tiger Wears a Neck Tie’ as ‘The Godfather’s’ groundwork is being laid for it being made into a motion picture (w/Brando). Things don’t just happen…just sayin‘. (Grin)

Yep, and the North Vietnamese still won the war. I don’t think Americans will ever figure out how that happened.

Armed Forces don’t make war, ultimately. Tribal raiders, gangs, insurgents, warriors, soldiers, armies – these all FIGHT wars, they don’t WAGE war as a whole.

WAGING WAR is all about entire groups – whether whole clans, tribes, kingdoms – or modern nation-states. It’s about MUCH more than combat and violence – it involves will, wealth, and intellect, or in modern terms civilian morale, economic power and national leadership.

“War is an affair of the STATE” – a quote from an ancient commander.

Your army can lose on the battlefield, but still fulfill its real purpose, which is serving your country, by helping your country to get what it wants. And if your country gets what it wants and frustrates the enemy, you WIN. Simple as that.

America won on the battlefields – more territory taken, more kills, more military “success”. But the much weaker Vietnamese Army helped their people win the war itself.

It helps if you think about this way: US Army was victorious. It was regular, TV-watching Americans that were defeated. Naturally civilians didn’t like this, blamed the Army and went insane.

Contemporary America is the result.

Bronson was Lipka Tatar, hence Eurasian appearance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipka_Tatars

Absolutely. A Jew would never have had an outburst onstage like that.

Also, the black heckler referred to him as a “cracker”. This is not the insult that blacks assign Jews.

It is not unknown for non-Jews to play Jews in Hollywood films. Especially Italians or half-Italians like Richards, De Niro, Pacino etc.

And yet at the end they destroyed Viet Cong as an effective force (also as a local Southern Vietnam initiative) and send Northern Vietnamese packing during Tet Offensive.

Yep, and the North Vietnamese still won the war. I don’t think Americans will ever figure out how that happened.

Hitting the guy when he’s already unconscious on the ground was vile. Fuck that guy.

More than vile. More like deliberate murder it seems to me.

And you believe this?

I still have working Nokia in a drawer somewhere. I wonder if I could start throwing it in trolls?

And yet at the end they destroyed Viet Cong as an effective force (also as a local Southern Vietnam initiative) and send Northern Vietnamese packing during Tet Offensive.

And linked list is full of padding, serious battles and minor skirmishes together?

I will be magnanimous and say that is my fault for using the word “everything”. Lets say the US Army dominated strategically and tactically (for the most part).

One problem:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2933725/
here, the sample for African Americans is taken from Boston Metropolitan Area. But it could be wrong to extrapolate these results to all Sub-Saharan African race, since African Americans have ~20% of white European ancestry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans#Genetics

And then there were the Romans…

Jaakko Raipala

the finns never amounted to anything in the history of mankind , too few people in a cold remote part of the world , speaking a very strange and useless language who have always been servants of their neighbours , of the swedes , of the russians …. and of the nazis , nazi finns participated under the swastika in the genocidal siege of Leningrad , shame on you .

And you dream with the ” great finland ” ? hahahahha , wanker ,beware of you imperialistic fantasies so that you don´t end up blown up by the russian missiles ,

I have never seen anything so stupid like these small , irrelevant good for nothing little pseudonations such as finland and the baltics possesed by delusions of grandeur . Ridiculous .

The russians would kalashnikov the parasit uncivilized and treacherous dagestanis

Sounds about right. South asians are the weakest by far especially northern indians.

“In particular, there is accumulating evidence that South Asians may have a ‘low fitness’ phenotype which contributes to their elevated cardio-metabolic risk, and thus may particularly benefit from undertaking higher levels of physical activity [14]”

Should Physical Activity Recommendations for South Asian Adults Be Ethnicity-Specific? Evidence from a Cross-Sectional Study of South Asian and White European Men and Women

Stamatina Iliodromiti, Nazim Ghouri, Carlos A. Celis-Morales, Naveed Sattar, Mary Ann Lumsden, and Jason M. R. Gill1

“In South Asians, a unique obesity phenotype of high abdominal fat is associated with increased cardiovascular risk”

The association between cardiorespiratory fitness and abdominal adiposity in postmenopausal, physically inactive South Asian women.

Lesser, Dick, Guenette, Hoogbruin , Mackey , Singer, Lear.

At any given body fat mass value, South Asians had significantly less lean mass than each of the three other groups after adjustment for age, height, humerus breadth, smoking status, physical activity, and diet. Aboriginal, Chinese, and European men had 3.42 kg [95% confidence interval (CI) = 1.55–5.29], 3.01 kg (95% CI = 1.33–4.70), and 3.57 kg (95% CI = 1.82–5.33) more lean mass than South Asian men at a given total fat mass, respectively”

Ethnic Variation in Fat and Lean Body Mass and the Association with Insulin Resistance

Scott A. Lear Simi Kohli Gregory P. Bondy Andre� Tchernof Allan D. Sniderman

The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, Volume 94, Issue 12, 1 December 2009, Pages 4696–4702

“…a whole band of foreigners will be unable to cope with one [Gaul] in a fight, if he calls in his wife, stronger than he by far and with flashing eyes; least of all when she swells her neck and gnashes her teeth, and poising her huge white arms, begins to rain blows mingled with kicks, like shots discharged by the twisted cords of a catapult�.

-Ammianus Marcellinus, The Roman History of Ammianus Marcellinus, Book 15, Chap 12, ~A.D. 355

Some have questioned the importance of gtip strength.
It can be very important.
Imagine you’re a soldier on the march across the Steppe. You’re surrounded by hot,sweaty dirty men. You lay down at night under the stars and you’re thoughts turn naturally to home and your girlfriend, Suzy Slutnick.
You think about the things you did…and well lets just say grip strength comes in handy.

Dirty muslim who only bathes before Friday prayers, Sikhi requires multiple baths per day

Yes, that was a moment. (Grin)

Most US television is a Jewish project but no Jew would scream “he’s a n>>>er!” to the audience.

You are right. But I think he married a Jew so he’s one by injection. lol

But going back to the show that was a Jew project all the way, from Seinfeld to Larry David to Alexander and the rest.

His father was Irish-American and his mother was an Italian immigrant.

Michael Richards is a JOO!

Seinfeld was the height of NY Jewishness. Costanza was a Jew playing an Italian acting like a Jew. He was as far from being ‘Italian’ as Kim Il Song.

Italians often play Jews-De Niro, Pacino, Michael (He’s a N***er!) Richards from Seinfeld.

If you look at East Coast organized crime the families often have Jewish associates within Italian-American crime families.

Obviously the relationship between Italians and Jews goes back to ancient times.

But if look at how Germans and British and Swedes associate. We’re like cousins. So are the Greeks, Sicilians and Jews.

Philippines has the curse of Latin America-a Mestizo landowning elite-AND Indonesia’s Chinese market dominant minority.

Worse yet, the Chinese decided to start making crystal meth in the Philippines in the early 80’s, leading to the drug war today. The manufacturers and distributors of Shabu are all Chinese.

Cebu was always heavily Spanish. This is why the Filipinos have Spanish names though they are more likely to have Mexican blood than Spanish. Some Aztec loan words found their way into the Cebuano dialect.

You can add many names to that list — from Edward G Robinson (Emanuel Goldenberg) playing Italian gangsters all the way to Jason Alexander (Jay Greenspan) playing the slimy, nebbishy George Costanza.. And who played his parents?

That’s a fascinating fact about the mid-philippines, entirely new to me. About the Chinese, not for nothing have they been called “The Jews of Asia”.

You have to take into consideration that the native Britons are more similar to Basque than to Germans.

I have never been in Scandinavia, however I visited Hamburg some years ago. It was noticeable that the people there were tall and well-built. In particular I noticed quite a few tall strapping young women, a few approaching 6 feet tall.

Back In Heathrow, it was noticeable that native British people there were of smaller stature.

Karlin is at his controversial entertaining best as usual.

Winning martial and athletic wars are just questions of which had the superior technical training systems.

A billion indians focused with the moneyed training and diet of michael phelps can certainly produce a thousand athletes who can beat the shit out of him. Indians cant beat phelps because less than a thousand indians, mostly non athletes, are ever interested in olympic swimming.

Icelanders love strength competitions and football, so they are good at it. Karlin should have watched super athletic africans like nigerians easily demolish the icemen. If einstein was more interested in blowjobs like clinton, he would have gone nowhere in physics, and would have serviced half a billion indians instead. Interest and discipline are far more essential than strength as initial conditions.

Karlin foists a lot of useless factoids that, nonetheless are as entertaining as brewed coffee in the morning. His travel notes are very good. His occasional goofy and illogical treatises like this is still better to monitor than the american and israeli efforts to ruin and rule the world.

see Madison Grant

Pre-genetics and so esentially worthless

Why did the US not have anything to show for their crushing victories after 10 years?

They only held the ground they had surrounded with razor wire and machine gun nests and nothing more.

I recall learning from Gurkha officers that Nepalese recruits, to be accepted into British Gurkha regiments, had to walk 200 miles and pass physical tests that native British recruits would pass after 18 months training. Possibly not such high standards for the Indian Gurkha regiments where the pay was less.

He did not have any victims since he was shot in the head with a .38spl. Someone fired for multiple minutes on end with an M240 firing at 600rpm though. No bump stock outfitted AR15 can do that. There were no empty 30rd. magazines on the floor in the photographs. But, in US-made movies with gun fights, no one ever has to change magazines. The overwhelming majority of Americans don’t know the difference anyway.

“US Army crushed everything North sent to battlefield.”

Well … maybe not so much… here’s a tally of U.S. battles lost…

http://www.g2mil.com/lost_vietnam.htm

Germanics also sacked Rome under a Hunnic multiculture, extracting much tribute from the Romans.

No myth, fact. Again see Madison Grant.

To be sure, high IQ is a leading determinate of progressive, advanced, technical societies.

High IQ in moderation is a strength. A society needs a very small number of high IQ highly educated people. Maybe one or two percent of the population.

But for most people high IQ is a weakness, and for a society a large number of high IQ highly educated people is a very major weakness.

A university education is necessary for a tiny proportion of the male population. It’s not necessary for any of the female population. If you want to Make America (or any other nation) Great Again the first step is to start shutting down universities.

To be sure, high IQ is a leading determinate of progressive, advanced, technical societies, but that is a necessary not a sufficient cause. Strength and Unity matter just as much if not more.

I’m inclined to agree.

You need not just strength, but moral strength (which we don’t have). And not just political unity (which we don’t have) but unity of purpose (which we also don’t have).

Very interesting, except that it doesn’t make sense to treat “Hispanics” as a separate group from “Caucasians.” Hispanics come in different races and every skin color, including white European.

A typical Hispanic in the USA is half or more non-white, as is a typical Hispanic in the entire world outside Spain (small population).

If Italians means mainland Italians, it’s largely correct to say that they didn’t get much in the way of Arab genes.

But as I’m sure you know, that’s not the case in Sicily (pop. 5 million) and Malta (pop. under 400,000), where most people have substantial Arab genetic contribution.

little Vietnamese sent the Uber massive American war machine packing

Actually not. Vietnamese routed American civilians and politicians. US Army crushed everything North sent to battlefield.

MMA attracts lowbrow viewers with limited mental faculties and should not be spoken about on intelligent forums.

The (Physical) Strength of Nations

Basically anybody can increase their physical strength and mental ability independent of age and race.

Try using a good quality Cross Machine at higher resistance for 2km each day, and check the effect after 1 month. There’s a mental and physical improvement guaranteed especially eating anti-oxidant fruit in the next 15 minutes (e.g. 3-4 oranges).

Shake hands with an Amish dairy farmer who milks 8 to 10 cows morning and night seven days a week 365 days a year. Then you will experience grip strength.

I am not a Russian neither, but I really, really! Admire Mr. Putin,

“The great Putin, Kicking ass, and taking names since 2000 A.D.”
No wonder He does not like Sodomites, i.e. Ukrainians!
I have seeing videos of Ukrainians fighting the New Russians, and got their rear kicked hard. So don’t give me this Ukrainian toughness.

The Africans have had no influence on the development of anything in the anglo world except destroying anything of value.

I don’t believe anyone knows whether it had crossed Paddock’s mind that most of his victims would be white. He left behind no manifesto or other writings and there’s no evidence that he had any interest in racial matters.

Kind of looks like Boris Johnson.

enjoyed your brief disquisition on the Mongols here.

Truth is, pleasure’s all mine, Mishra.

Too bad we can’t start topics here, only threadja . . . er, redirect existing ones. I would have liked to get into cool discussions with others interested in related subjects. Oh well.

Just please, no hackneyed stereotypes about this or that “fact” or whatnot. Man, stereotyping’s GOT to be one of the more exasperating aspects of online discourse.

Italian-Americans have given them a run for their money in boxing and field sports like baseball.

23 and me analyze spit and send you back some boilerplate generalizations about your ancestry. They aren’t an authority on anything!

In the Central Philippines there are a few old Sephardic families notable for the oldest businesses in the country. Legapsi, Pilias.

If you go to Cebu City, the NAMES of the streets are Sephardic Jewish. They migrated there under the Spanish Crown.

The Chinese are new-money elites.

Correct, there are weight groups in boxing because a good, big guy will always dominate a good, small guy. So to make fights more even there are weight groups, this is the case even with MMA / UFC. The Klitschko’s were always just average, very big guys who were able to better the good, smaller guys and they made boxing boring in the process.

Heavy weight boxing should also have weigh limits to prevent the useless, skill-less giants from dominating the smaller guys. Mike Tyson was best at 95kg, he always struggled against the bigger blokes. Should have heavy weight, super heavy weight, super super heavy weight categories, etc.

If you take 100 average blacks guys and train them up and take 100 average white guys and train them up the 100 blacks guys would always win in adverse conditions due to superior genetics (more explosive, higher bone density, etc). Icelanders might be strong but I haven’t seen a white guy in the hundred meter Olympic final for a long time.

In the video the smaller guy with weaker grip strength murdered the bigger guy with stronger grip strength. Its just down to training and conditioning. If the bigger guy had just 1 month’s MMA training he would have broken the smaller guy in half. Conditioning can make small guys hard and strong, just like those Dagestan MMA fighters, it helps to be Muslim and not to drink and just train all the time, but anyone can be trained up in a few months to be able to give a good account of themselves.

I recall reading that the Roman gladiators invariably carried some extra weight around the stomach region because a skilled, heavier gladiator was a better gladiator.

Interesting. Obviously there’re some things you just can’t glean from Wikipedia. As I understand there’s a strong Chinese presence in both countries, especially among the elites.

We Sikhs will always win in wrestling over anyone else because we don’t bathe for months before a fight and always win because our opponents usually die from olifactory overload.

A negro always has an advantage over any other race (except maybe australian aboriginals) in skull thickness. His smaller brain and thicker skull can take more punishment than any other race. If a white boxer is going to beat negroes, he needs to know their weak points and take full advantage of them.

White women being stronger than Indian men… in which world? Are we talking about motorcycle riding, beer guzzling by the barrel, picking fights in the dive bars, pot bellied pig like, should have been born a man but stuck with too big tits to be of any good use to a real man, always wanted to be a veterinarian when grew up, butchy dykes? Get the fuck outta here!

I don’t doubt for one moment the ‘browning’ patterns of Las Vegas. The fact remains that the perpetrator of the massacre and a large percentage of the fallen were whites. The type of music festival that was used as the staging grounds for this horrendous crime was a ‘country music’ one, that tends to draw more of a white crowd.

Contrary to popular belief, Charles Bronson wasn’t jewish. http://www.jewornotjew.com/profile.jsp?ID=461

We know you are an expert on this because you go to the movies and see how strong black guys are. They always win the fight, don’t they1

Yes, of course I’m generalizing, that’s something people do.

Mexico City can be great if you’re careful, you’re much more likely as a tourist to get sick than murdered.

mostly white Las Vegas

Btw, Las Vegas is now less than half non-hispanic white.

Hispano-Americans are not Indians. They are Canary Islanders or Andalusian in the main. If you saw one in New Jersey, you’d just assume they were Sicilian-Americans.

The Mestizos you want to watch out for are the Aztecs.

They are mean bastards.

You’re generalizing. Compare Costa Rica with Mexico? BTW, I was in Mexico city a couple of years ago, and had some time to kill and was ‘brave’ enough to take the subway from the central airport (several blocks away to the entrance of the subway) to the fabulous Museo Nacional de Antropología, and had a wonderful experience. This side trip involved a lot of walking around, and I ‘m not fluent in Spanish, I had a great time and only wished that I could have stayed a few extra days. This is not to say that I would have made the same trip at night, or to other rougher neighborhoods. As in all things, you need to use your head and be careful. What about all of the hundreds of white vacationers visiting mostly white Las Vegas last year? When your number’s up, it’s up – make sure your at peace with the Lord and you’ll do fine, no matter what’s in store for you (living like Howard Hughes doesn’t interest me).

There is a streak of cruelty in Aztec Mestizos and a lack of moral sense a mile wide.

I worked in Central Philippines-Cebu-and you’d be surprised at the degree of Sephardic in the upper-class Mestizo Filipino families from the Spanish colonial era. Many settled there.

Average Filipino is something like 8% Hispanic via galleon trade. Mexican is common as well.

Also, more Filipinos are likely to be Chinese-blooded.

If you have ever been to Malaysia and then go to Philippines (I did on a visa run) you’ll observe the difference that this admixture makes.

Why shouldn’t I be? Is there a requirement that everybody needs to think alike and respond accordingly? I enjoy a lot of the topics discussed here, especially those that touch on my ancestral homeland. BTW, I follow several blogs at the UNZ review, not just Karlin’s.

Is there something about parental common wisdom that you don’t ascribe to?

There’s a certain type of Russian/Lithuanian Jew like Barr or Seagal or Bronson that looks Eurasian.

Keitel and other Polish Jews look 100% Slavic to me and I suspect that when the King of Poland invited the Jews there were conversions among the local populace to some degree. Like Keitel they tend to have snub noses, Slavic wide cheekbones, muscular builds.

As for German-Jews, this makes sense. They look Italian and play Italians in films. Winkler, Caan etc.

Samoans and other Pacific Islanders are a varying mixture of the early Austronesian expansion (Filipinos/Malays et al) and the indigenous Austroloid populations (think black-skinned Australian Aborigines). Some populations look more Malay while others look more Austroloid. Australoids are, of course, much darker, have curly hair, large brow ridges, and facial hair. Malays/Filipinos are a subgroup of Southeast Asians and look more or less like other SE Asians (straight hair, no facial hair, etc). (Note their language family is Austronesian – same as Malays, Filipinos et al)

There are a lot of theories for why they got so big and strong. Mixing two distant populations (Malays and Australoids) added some genetic variation to aid evolutionary change. One theory is that sailing across the Pacific required immense upper body strength. It’s also interesting that animals confined to Islands often exhibit either gigantism or dwarfism. If I recall correctly, there are natives on Islands around the Philippines that are pygmy-like. So human populations in the Pacific have gone in both directions, size wise. Their stocky build could also be a partial adaption to cold since you’d be very exposed sailing thousands of miles across the Pacific Ocean in those little boats. When you’re soaking wet and sailing you can get pretty cold, even in the tropics.

Napoleon famously said it of Mamelukes and Frenchmen.

Many parts of the Latin American world, including Mexico, are extremely unsafe, at least judging by homicide rates. Other parts (generally fewer and farther between) are the reverse.

Hispano-Americans on the other hand seem to be not much more criminal than non-hispanic whites, except for things like drunk driving, so I would guess much of the problem in Latin America is with a dysfunctional and corrupt political culture. But if you’ve run into Mexican gangs I can see how that would give one a very dim view of Mexicans in general.

“this assessment wasn’t backed up by statistical evidence”

Turchin definitely didn’t originate this meme, I recall reading the exact same words many years ago – I think in ‘I, Claudius’. I had the impression Tacitus had said it, but perhaps it’s a modern trope.

The current thinking has Ashkenazis at 35-40% Roman, 35-40% Levantine and the rest Central or Eastern European though recent studies I’ve come across has the remaining admixture as primarily Eastern European (numbers vary widely by researcher). So your observations make perfect sense. I just Google imaged a young Harvey Keitel and he looks like one of my Jewish cousins. Nimoy actually looked somewhat Levantine. In the first photo below he could almost pass for a light-skinned Palestinian:

https://monstermoviekid.wordpress.com/2015/03/25/a-tribute-to-leonard-nimoy-baffled-1973/

MR HACK

Sir

Why would you be on this site if this is your position?

Sometimes, the old wisdom, that many of our parents taught us when growing up seems to be lost by commenters (and writers too) at the UNZ Review. It went something like this:

There are good and bad and smart and stupid people within all races, creeds and nationalities

I still think that it holds true today.

As I understand it, 23andMe (and similar tests) only try to determine where your ancestors were about 500 years ago. For example, 23andMe doesn’t break down the component parts that make up Askenazi Jews (Ancient Roman, Levantine, and Central/Eastern European).

Several years ago I saw a study that claimed that Southern Europeans, including Spanish, Italians, and Askenazi Jews, have a very small proportion (2-4%?) of African admixture that isn’t present in Northern Europeans. The highest admixture was in Portugal (6-8%?). I also saw another source that claimed that, in Spain, the admixture was only in the southern and western regions and wasn’t present elsewhere. I’m no expert in this field, so please chime in if you have any up-to-date or accurate sources.

Even assuming a tiny bit of Moorish admixture, I would still consider Southern Italians to be “White” and also European. People obviously disagree on who’s White, but pretty much everyone includes Italians (I didn’t read the Daily Stormer). I think the Caucasus and Asia Minor is where it starts to get blurry for most, which is why many don’t consider Jews to be really “White”. Despite being half Ashkenazi I just don’t care if we’re White or not. There’re more pressing matters than dwelling on the gray areas of “White”. Like the fact that Western Civilization is being invaded (by people who are very far from White) and will likely be destroyed within a few generations…but I digress.

Your experience in Phoenix is unique, then.

Not every Hispanic is a bad person, of course.

But I had enough experiences with Cholos to want to avoid Latin America.

What’s wrong with Costa Rica or Panama? Beautiful countries with nice friendly ‘Mestisoz’. There they’re called ‘Ticos’, a nice mixture of the races. Mexicans are good people too, I’m a ‘white’ who lives and works with many of them in Arizona. I miss Gustavo Arellano’s blog ‘Ask a Mexican’ at this site. It was quite funny and enlightening too.

ANONYMOUS

Grew up around German-American Jews and agree about the Italian-Winkler, Caan made their name playing Italian Guidos.

But there is something vaguely Eurasian about Lithuanian and Russian Jews like Barr and Nimoy.

In my opinion Polish Jews like Keitel look the most Slavic.

I live overseas and have for nearly 20 years.

I’ve never been to Mexico since living in Arizona and being exposed to Cholos there. I despise Mestizos.

I’ve been to the “dry Spain”. Madrid and Al Hambra.

You could not PAY me to spend time in Latin America. Thx.

The Mongols were probably just drinking their fermented mares milk.

Interesting. The current view is that Ashkenazis are roughly 35-40% ancient Roman, with the mixing between the Levantine and Roman founding populations occurring soon after the Roman exile (70 AD). For being about 40% Levantine, Askenazis produce a suprising amount of people with blonde hair and/or blue eyes. (My full Ashkenazi wife has very Levantine features, dark hair but blue eyes).

2,000 years ago the entire Mediterranean probably looked different, racially, than it does today. Many indigenous Levantine groups are quite fair (Google image “Sofi Tsedaka”). We even know from DNA studies of mummies that the ancient Egyptians were less Black than the modern Egyptians and were basically a Semitic people.

Go travel a little bit, to La Habana , Mexico , Spain , at least go to Miami , San Antonio , Los Angeles …….. one learns a lot travelling ….. and watch less Hollywood and TV .

( Hollywood can make Banderas black, mestizo , apache , nordic , chinese or in stripes )

Like a few others, my first thought was Samoans (and perhaps other PI subgroups). I believe they’re more overrepresented in the NFL than Kenyans are in distance running. Keep in mind, there are relatively few Samoans on the planet. Sure, with a world-wide population in the hundreds of millions, Norther Europeans may produce more strongmen. But imagine if there were 200 million Samoans on the planet.

My unique upbringing brought me in close contact with the Samoan community in South Seattle. Around the same time, I also spent a year at an all-White high school in a small town that was predominantly Scandinavian. If you compare the median Samoan to the median Scandinavian there is simply no doubt that the Samoans are much bigger (accounting for girth/bone size), stronger and faster. Height is pretty equivalent, but that’s it. I remember staring at their knees, wrists, and fingers. I couldn’t believe how thick their bones were! Their downfall, of course, is obesity and diabetes. But get them back to their natural diet and bring them up in a developed country, and I don’t see a physically stronger race anywhere. It’s not even close.

If Karlin is so unhappy with Russia and being surrounded by the 90 percent Sovok untermensch why doesn’t he just like, leave? Nobody is forcing him to stay there or holding a gun to his head if his stay there is as tortuous as he says it is? I mean if yoi can not do as the Romans do and despise 95 percent of Romans why not just leave Rome is instead of carping all day in this forum? I am sure that there are more 200 nations that would accept his August presence, just leave do not let the door hit you on your way out.