Incidentally, you just happened to fabricate a scenario where nobody really knows anything except that a doting young British girl is pursuing a relationship with a grown “Asian” man, just two sweethearts having a go. What’s the harm? And you consider this a good-faith concession.

A family member of a perp may have been privy to this and this alone, oblivious to the more severe acts that occurred elsewhere.

Perhaps. That is a possibility. However, it is also possible that a friend or family member could have known about the more severe acts, or they could have suspected them. Isn’t that a distinct possibility in sexual exploitation rings which operate for multiple years and have nothing to do with Pakistanis or Muslims? I would say, “Yes, that is certainly possible, even if we’re not talking about Pakistanis or Muslims, and everyone who knew the suspects covered their own ass.”

But you excluded these possibilities entirely from your scenario. We’re talking about a gang of criminals operating for multiple years with many victims. I have this nagging feeling that you wouldn’t set the constraints on what was possible, or even plausible, if the community in question comprised Mormons or Catholics of non-Middle Eastern ancestry.

I’ll repeat what I stated earlier:

I also think it’s unlikely that anyone would defend all these community leaders, whether they be Muslims, Jews, or Mennonites, with the same amount of gusto. In fact, I think it is likely that people would vigorously defend them, condemn them, or say nothing, based on their own perceived self-interest.

Your analogy was just terrible.

Well, let’s examine it more closely…

First of all, it’s well known that individual gang members first gained the trust of girls. As such, it’s not an exaggeration to say that, in the intermediate period of the relationship, the girls were, in fact, smitten with the offender who would later exploit them. (This is actually a matter of record, which is why the activity in question is referred to as ‘grooming’.)

Now this kind of activity might have been subject to more public exposure. It could be postulated that, prior to the more severe exploitation, there may have been some community witnesses to this kind of ‘boyfriend model’ of grooming, though the scope of bystander observation and apprehension of it still remains uncertain.

As such, I do not think the example given is far flung if we consider that such a relationship, of itself, may be categorized as CSE. A family member of a perp may have been privy to this and this alone, oblivious to the more severe acts that occurred elsewhere. Considering these elements, the analogy is not as bad as you imagine.

Now that this has been more precisely fleshed out, would you still react the same way?

Your analogy was just terrible. This is how you presented a comparable “crime”:

a relationship with a 15 year old girl who seems to dote on him.

You don’t think forcibly raping a bunch of girls radically changes that “ethical quandary”?

I’ll answer this question:

‘Would you rush to have your family member arrested, possibly convicted and incarcerated for many years, thereby ruining his life, or would you seek to handle the matter without recourse to law enforcement officials?’

If he participated in a rape gang, then he deserves to have his life ruined. If he knew about a rape gang and covered it up, then he deserves to have his life ruined. And comparing that to having “a relationship with a 15 year old girl who seems to dote on him” is just suspect.

The only reason you could be asking me this is because you perceive it to be an analogy which accurately parallels the actions and biases of the grooming gang situation, perhaps just on a different scale.

No, that is not ‘the only reason’ I could be asking the question, since I clearly described the allegation as speculative. As such, neither you nor anyone else can infer the analogy ‘accurately parallels the actions and biases of the grooming gang situation’ in any way, shape or form.

There is the realm of possibility and there is the realm of what is certain. Thus far, those raising Cain about the matter reside firmly in the former, trafficking heavily in conjecture. They have no actual evidence to substantiate their allegations that Muslim leaders or many others were aware of the matter and said and did nothing to prevent it.

So, without confirming their conjecture, I entertain a possibility and ask the question in accordance with it. However imperfect the comparison may seem, it nevertheless addresses an ethical quandary common to both possibilities, which is to say, ‘Would you rush to have your family member arrested, possibly convicted and incarcerated for many years, thereby ruining his life, or would you seek to handle the matter without recourse to law enforcement officials?’

The only reason you could be asking me this is because you perceive it to be an analogy which accurately parallels the actions and biases of the grooming gang situation, perhaps just on a different scale. But I don’t see it that way, so I disagree on the premise. However, the analogy itself might be useful for illustrating how two different groups with differing self-interests can perceive the same events in very different ways.

Look at the child sexual abuses among Mormons, in the cTholic churches ,by the US army across the world starting from WW2, study the sexual abuses of the pre teens in Iraq under US occupation, remind yourself the child sexual abuses by Epstein gang , sex trafficking in Las Vegas and Hollywood, sexual crimes inflicted in adults then forget all about the above and find an author to amplify X message on the billboards on the highways.

Yes, all of it deserves to be called out.

And here we are yet again, trading accusations just as the usual suspects would have us do while they laugh all the way to the proverbial bank.

*sigh*

Here’s another thought experiment…

Let’s say a close male family member of yours — say, in his twenties or thirties — is involved in a relationship with a 15 year old girl who seems to dote on him. You’re angered by his conduct, but you love him nonetheless and don’t wish to see him ruined for the rest of his life should law enforcement become aware of his affair.

How do you approach the matter?

So when you say “debunked�, do you mean that the community leaders were unaware of this criminal activity as it was happening? The evidence being that after it was reported, they condemned it?

I would say any evidence to the contrary is entirely speculative.

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Yeah, fuck Tommy Robinson too. Another third world non boot licker, provided they aren’t Muslims, of course.

From the links muh muh provided

people of Pakistani heritage in our country are equally sickened by these crimes and fear being tarred with the same brush.

Communities fear backlash as far-right seeks to “exploit the exploitation”

That says it all. It says nowhere that they care about the raped, tortured and exploited white girls. They only care about themselves hence the fear of backlash. A backlash which never comes.

Well OK, they were “sickened”. Officially in their statements to the media.

You’ll note I haven’t returned to ‘tulips’ the kind of copypasta he’s dished out here. The reason for that is twofold:

1) you mean to say it can’t be refuted?
2) if you prefer pithy hit & run commentary, why don’t you cease in your efforts to argue with me? Fly away, Pelican…but here you are. Again. Still.

Afzal joins Mehdi Hasan

Mehdi Hasan? He’s whinging about a rewriting of history? I wonder what he says about the history of Muslim slave raiding/conquest in Africa and Europe? [a little more whataboutery, such as whatabout all the mainstream history that vilifies Europeans and obscures/denies the sins and myriad atrocities committed by non-Europeans? There are no deleterious repercussions for these false narratives? Is it all relative or isn’t it?]

What say you, Pelican, about the term/history of the Houris? Islamic Sexual Enslavement is mitzvah…

Copypasta: For the eighth century’s Nicetas Byzantinos, a Greek historian, the Koran was “full of blasphemies against the Most High, with all its ugly and vulgar filth,� particularly its claim that heaven amounted to a “sexual brothel.� 

The rewriting of history is, to a great extent, the cause of the current quagmire in the West, but please do focus on the plight of the Muslim invaders…let’s throw the Haitians in, too – that’s what really matters – who is most apt to wreak havoc and destroy the classic enemy of Jewry? How about the entire lot?

Even if stats were to show that a given ethnic group’s crimes were disproportionately represented

That’s exactly what the stats do/did show.

What say you about the irrelevant stats that show that Jews are/were over-represented in the pornography industry? What about Jewish over-representation in the ownership/management of American media? In the presidential cabinets? Are we/have we been asked/directed to look the other way on that particular ethnic over-representation because it’s potentially hurtful to the innocents amongst Jewry? On those matters, which matter NOT (?), should we just fly away?

How about a little howaboutism? How’s that working out for us? (Ignoring/refusing to accept the obvious on a principle not accorded to Whites, as a group, by every other ethnic nation)

constitutes an existential threat – demonstrate how the phenomenon of those crimes constitutes an existential threat to others

Well, what is the existential threat, exactly? The pending ruination of England/America? Or, the protection and elevation of various out-groups at the expense of European people/nations for the ultimate ruination of England/America? Political and cultural displacement for all European-blooded peoples? A Pakistani troll is the mayor of London. Nothing to see there….

The reports of Organized Rapery by “Asiansâ€� emerged in the 70’s – long before the October 7 Holocaust of 6! Jews in Israel by “Asiansâ€� from Palestine.

Labour MP Ann Cryer reported: Rotherham report ‘reduced me to tears’, says MP who exposed abuse decades ago.
When Ann Cryer tried to bring abusers in her Yorkshire seat to justice, she was shunned by police, social services and imams…

More Copypastaism – feel free to fact-check –

Oxford Paedophile Ring: Former Labour MP Ann Cryer Blames ‘Cultural Practices’ From Pakistan

A former Labour MP has blamed the Oxford paedophile ring on “cultural practices” that have been “imported” from Pakistan.

Ann Cryer was criticised after drawing parallels with the abuse in Oxford and what she claimed was the Pakistani attitude towards women.

Seven men were found guilty of a catalogue of offences after the Old Bailey heard how the vulnerable schoolgirls were plucked from the streets and care homes to be drugged, raped and sold into prostitution.
Five of the men were of British Pakistani origin, and two were from North Africa.

But Cryer, who has campaigned on child grooming issues, said: “It’s cultural practices that have been imported into this country from Pakistan and we must not lose sight of that fact.

Then a year later in 2004 came ‘Edge of the City,’ a Channel 4 documentary about social workers in Bradford.

Hours before transmission it was yanked from the schedules. [I assert that a story on blue-collar White guys doing same would NOT have been yanked off air, just like the matter of the Knoxville Horror, which occurred in the land of White StickPeople, was NOT a national story because the perpetrators were NOT White]

Unite Against Fascism, The 1990 Trust, and the National Assembly Against Racism lobbied Channel 4 to drop it, as did the Chief Constable of West Yorkshire.

The local elections were coming up. And the film captured grooming gangs for the first time. South Asian men abusing teenage white girls. They were worried that the BNP, who were making a lot of noise about the abuse gangs, would profit.

[in the] small town of Rotherham…

Almost all the victims were white, most of the abusers were Pakistani. And that’s despite them only making up just 5% of the town.

Pakistani British councillors had wielded unusual power, and they had used it to head off concerns. People who tried to raise concerns were silenced with bogus accusations of racism.

Andrew Norfolk at The Times…In 2010 he heard a radio report about a grooming gang in Manchester.
He started going through archives. What he found was a pattern.

Since 1997 there had been 17 cases in 13 towns where a group of men had approached a girl on the street and groomed her.
Of the 56 convicted, 3 were white, 53 were Asian.
50 of those had Muslim names, most were Pakistani.
But when he went to the authorities, they refused to talk.

He was accused of being a racist and an Islamophobe.

Kevin MacDonald:

Nevertheless, nothing was done to stop it. As Tobias Langdon notes, White sex criminals do their deeds secretly and in private because they are well aware that such behavior is looked on with horror by the vast majority of other Whites.…
However, Pakistan is a typical Middle Eastern collectivist culture, so the emphasis is on supporting one’s own kinship group, no matter what. This is also the case in the Orthodox Jewish community, another typical Middle Eastern collectivist culture…

An unhealthy brand of politics “imported” from Pakistan is partly to blame for the cover-up of mass child abuse in Rotherham and other British cities…
Simon Danczuk…said a culture of intimidation and closing of ranks within parts of the Asian community had mired politics in towns and cities across northern England for years.
He said Asian councillors were under constant pressure from the community to “conform”…
“There are cultural issues around the way politics are done in the Asian community…
He said he had personally come under pressure from Asian councillors and members of the community for speaking out as well as being warned by prominent figures in his party.
He pointed to the way in which two Muslim councillors in Rochdale had provided character references for one of the perpetrators of the Rochdale abuse…

In a nutshell, like Jews, they stick together, regardless of what their co-ethnics are up to. If these groups seek to undermine White society/culture, which they mostly do, what are we to do about it?

Squawk! 🕶�

Your best argument yet.

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a Hollywood movie as a psyop.

Very true.

I recently noticed that they were eager to make an Hollywood version of Three Body Problem. It seems that why they did it was so that they depict a malevolent version of the “CCP”/CPC, rather than the much more measured version in the China version.

If the West only invested the same effort in improving the lives of their people, rather than putting effort into Painting Narratives (aka propaganda), they would be so much better off today.

As a thought experiment, let’s say there was a sex-trafficking operation being run out of a community of self-segregated Jews in New Jersey. Let’s say it has been going on for years, maybe involving over 100 people, and there were even unofficial rumors circulating throughout the greater society the entire time. Then one day it gets reported in the news and becomes a big headline. The Jewish community leaders waste no time condemning the heinous, but isolated, actions of a few wayward souls, which they knew nothing about. Probably a lot of people would believe them, especially people who like Jews or people who perceive Jews to be a community that deserves good public relations. I, however, would be more skeptical of their claims of innocence.

And just to show that my skepticism in this case is not coming from a place of unbridled Jew-hatred, let’s say it was a community of self-segregated German Mennonites where this ‘rape gang’ was operating from. I would still be highly skeptical that the community leaders were totally unawares that this activity was going on right under their noses. I guess you could say I look upon clannish minority communities with more suspicion since I suspect they are more likely to rationalize dissimulation because they perceive themselves to be an isolated group under siege.

I also think it’s unlikely that anyone would defend all these community leaders, whether they be Muslims, Jews, or Mennonites, with the same amount of gusto. In fact, I think it is likely that people would vigorously defend them, condemn them, or say nothing, based on their own perceived self-interest.

So when you say “debunked”, do you mean that the community leaders were unaware of this criminal activity as it was happening? The evidence being that after it was reported, they condemned it? I guess I would be more surprised if they “praised” the crime or acknowledged any awareness of it, since that would probably be self-incriminating, and people generally try to avoid that.

Doesn’t being aware of evil and allowing evil to happen make one as evil as the perpetrator, if not more so? Those community leaders know what goes on in their community and allowed it to happen.

Except these allegations were debunked a long time ago.

Muslim leaders and imams have been condemning child sexual grooming gangs perpetrated by Muslims for the last 12 years.

This is despite the fact that none of the perpetrators in any of the cases cited Quran, hadith or Islamic justifications for their crimes. https://t.co/GqXuX5z1Kq pic.twitter.com/vyW80QTi7G

— Dilly Hussain (@DillyHussain88) January 11, 2025

Doesn’t being aware of evil and allowing evil to happen make one as evil as the perpetrator, if not more so? Those community leaders know what goes on in their community and allowed it to happen. I presume a considerable proportion of the community was aware of it too, including the extended families and friends of the groomers. Had any of these Pakistanis demonstrated, protested or rioted against the grooming gangs? But they demonstrate, protest and riot against whatever they perceive as a threat to their community. They don’t care about the White girls that were raped and tortured. They clearly put themselves out to be enemies of the societies they inhabit, as do many other of these immigrants groups. Sure there are minor exceptions, as to every rule.

The same goes for most of those White politicians, social workers and cops. The fact that they talk so much about these girls being daughters of single mothers, vulnerable, impressionable, drug addicts, etc. also implies that they care less about them than if they came from decent middle class families and were kidnapped on the street. Surely everyone deserves to be protected … except the perpetrators and their vast army of immigrant and politician supporters, those turning a blind eye, cops, etc. But then who is threatening them?

All paedophile rings are grooming gangs, unless using victims that didn’t require “grooming”. Pakistani grooming gangs are specific in the ethnic composition of perps and victims.

Using that term they could say that 100 percent of members of Grooming Gangs were Pakistani “Muslims� even though the gangs also contained Sikhs, Hindus and a few white people.

You could say the same thing about the population of Pakistan. So what?

These supposedly decent Pakistanis now coming out complaining about how these rape gangs are presented in the media, why didn’t they gang up in their own community and put a stop to these gangs, why didn’t they protest and demonstrate against the rape gangs and demand that the police and authorities take action? No, most of them turned a blind eye, or rather sneered at the victims and had an inner laugh, or joined the friends and extended families rioting in support of the perps at the courts when these gangs were eventually tried and convicted.

You’ll note I haven’t returned to ‘tulips’ the kind of copypasta he’s dished out here. The reason for that is twofold:

1) it does nothing to diminish the seriousness of the offenses to which he refers, and
2) it usually gets relegated to little more than reflexive whataboutery, unnecessarily congesting the thread.

One other matter I’d like to add, and I believe this is more important than anything else discussed here…

Even if stats were to show that a given ethnic group’s crimes were disproportionately represented when compared to other groups, one would have to demonstrate how the phenomenon of those crimes constitutes an existential threat to others in order to warrant the kind of action ‘tulips’ advocates.

So if less than 5% of a cohort is responsible for criminal activity, it beggars the imagination to think this is some kind of persuasive argument for rounding up the remaining 95% and consigning them to internment camps, expelling them, etc., etc.

That’s really the crux of this argument, and for as much as Musk or Robinson try to advance that kind of nonsense, I’m quite confident they’re going to fail and fail miserably.

Which is really all that matters.

All these problems of uncivil, unclean, unintelligent scum flooding into our formerly civilized country began with goddamn Lyndon Johnson. As soon as Kennedy was dead then, right away, 1964, we were given the Vietnam War and replacement of the National Origins Formula, which restricted immigration to northern and western Europeans, with https://cis.org/Report/HartCeller-Immigration-Act-1965. It is clear what needs to be done. The truth must be presented on television so than Americans can see and comprehend it, and that means wresting Hollywood from the Jews.

It looks obvious now that political correctness didn’t play the role in said under-reportage that many here claim it had.

Admittedly, I include myself in this.

That’s the thing about keeping an open mind: you have to be willing to admit you might be wrong, which isn’t always an easy thing to do, but when you think about it, it provides an opportunity to learn something new, which isn’t so bad after all.

There was no under reporting of Asian groomers and as I have said this was made up to be a tool to a divide the communities and demonise the Muslims again.

I certainly agree with the latter half of your statement, but even in the Zeteo vid to which you link, Nazir Afzal points to said negligence in reporting on behalf of police (around the 28:00 mark). Earlier in the interview, he also mentions how some victims reported that officers treated them condescendingly, indicating class discrimination.

However…

It looks obvious now that political correctness didn’t play the role in said under-reportage that many here claim it had.

Rather, it seems law enforcement has demonstrated a degree of negligence in its pursuit of CSE offenses regardless of the ethnicity of the perpetrator, with some notorious cases involving British politicians. (!) What’s more, judges have given conspicuously lenient sentences to primarily white convicts.

Add to this the data available in your ‘Making a Monster’ article, which includes numerous cases of white men committing egregious collective CSE offenses that should, for all intents and purposes, be categorized as ‘grooming gangs’, and it’s obvious there’s glaring racial bias when comparing media reportage of these instances against those of Pakistani offenders:

You’ll note I haven’t returned to ‘tulips’ the kind of copypasta he’s dished out here. The reason for that is twofold:

1) it does nothing to diminish the seriousness of the offenses to which he refers, and
2) it usually gets relegated to little more than reflexive whataboutery, unnecessarily congesting the thread.

That said, the rabbit hole that article led me down includes some pretty harrowing stuff, such as this:

Revealed: child sex abuse gang ‘with tentacles that go round the world’

Seven members of a paedophile gang were involved in the rape and abuse of babies, toddlers and children in attacks that were streamed on the internet and seen on every continent.

The sex ring – described as having “tentacles that go round the worldâ€� – preyed on the families of the children they targeted, in one case grooming a mother and father before their baby was born. […]

Ian Glover, senior investigating officer, said: “We’ve encountered grooming where the family have been groomed prior to birth of the baby. They go in that early with the sole intention of abusing that baby once it’s born.�

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/22/child-sex-paedophile-abuse-gang-revealed-trial-two-convictions

I have yet to see a single example of a Pakistani gang involved in something so unspeakably evil.

In any event, thanks for those timely links! They certainly put paid to a lot of falsehoods recently bandied about these environs.

And, in case I forgot, happy new year!

Have you ever wondered why David Woods was and is not allowed to speak at Tommy Robinson’s demonstrations?

With Tommy’s stance on “Free Speech” and how strongly he advocates for it reminding us time amd time again that people should be allowed to say what they want including himself then surely he should have noproblem with allowing David Woods to do just that 🤔.

Video Link

14-year-old Charlene Downes, who was raped and prostituted by Muslims in the Labour constituency of Blackpool before being murdered by her Muslim “boyfriends� and probably turned into kebab-meat..

She was pimped out and abused by her own family members and their circle of right wing Peadophiles.

https://blackpoolcrime.wordpress.com/2021/09/18/the-murder-of-charlene-downes-who-did-kill-charlene-downes/

https://www.vice.com/en/article/murder-charlene-downes-blackpool/

https://uk.pinterest.com/edlnews/the-downes-files/

What happened to Charlene Downes?
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Because Kaney West lived not to tell his story.

But proving the under reporting of white on white pedophilia doesn’t disprove the under reporting of the

Pakistani groomers.

There was no under reporting of Asian groomers and as I have said this was made up to be a tool to a divide the communities and demonise the Muslims again.

I have, living in England most of my life, been following this media manipulation around “Grooming Gangs”, a label created specifically for Asians / Pakistanis back when it since it first started.
Using that term they could say that 100 percent of members of Grooming Gangs were Pakistani “Muslims” even though the gangs also contained Sikhs, Hindus and a few white people. The term Child Sexual Explotation which is the main term used for abuse was only used in realtion to none Asian /Pakistanis.

The below article sheds light on this.

Making a Monster: How The Times Created the Asian ‘Grooming Gang’

Origins of the Asian Grooming Gang.

On the 5th of January, 2011, The Times newspaper launched an exclusive four-page exposé on the “sexual exploitation of hundreds of young British girls by criminal pimping gangs�. The article claimed that “child protection experts� had identified a separate category of sex offending which The Times labelled “on-street grooming�, and that within this profile “most of the victims are white� and that “most of the convicted offenders are of Pakistani heritage�..

https://medium.com/@Reg_Left_Media/making-a-monster-how-the-times-created-the-asian-grooming-gang-f944ad598822

Below an interview with Nazir Afzal who.

If you follow Elon Musk on Twitter, you might have a very distorted picture of one of the UK’s most controversial issues right now: child grooming gangs.

“He [Musk] is completely rewriting history,� says Nazir Afzal, the former Chief Crown Prosecutor for North West England, who prosecuted some of the most high profile cases in the country, including ones against British child sexual abusers of Pakistani heritage.

In his first on-camera interview since Musk started attacking several British officials with accusations of failing to prosecute gangs responsible for crimes against children, Afzal joins Mehdi Hasan for a Town Hall Q&A to discuss the history of this decades-old issue in the UK

Video Link

As you more or less said this is a psy-op by the Zionists to distract from the Holocaust taking place in Palestine and to demonise the Muslims. But for all of their schemes and plotting this will back fire on them in a big way Godwilling

They are called grooming gangs for a reason and that reason is actually not to cover up reality, at least not from the outset.

These victims were not abducted by strangers, it was more like psychological operations where girls from poor families and bad circumstances -often already in foster homes or institutions- were given attention and gifts, then it gradually escalated and ended up in sex-slavery and forced prostitution.

We might as well call them rape gangs, true, but the term grooming is fitting for how the girls ended up within their reach.

The media propagates that Kurds are the good Muslims.

They were part of it too.

Girls, drugged and gang-raped under a Kurdish flag

https://metro.co.uk/2017/08/10/girl-13-drugged-and-gang-raped-under-a-kurdish-flag-by-men-in-relay-race-6843097/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4777086/The-community-shame-predators.html

Pelican… Pelican… Pelican… Pelican… Pelican…

Squawk! 🕶�

Why do you need muh muh or anyone? Did Pakistan raise a hell against Musk? Did it raise an outcry against the far right blind leading bastard who fails to see the hand of Israel in its demonstration ?

How many times did US force to release without charges its rapist in Japan, Iraq and in Phillipines? I don’t have data for Latin American ’s sufferrings by American rapists.

Did Not Israel force the release of its rapist committed by its tourists in Europe?

Did this bastard show any anger at the influence of Chief Rabbi who spoke to police and persuaded it disallow pro-Palestinain march ?

Why this Musk bastard is trying to bring H1 low skilled tech and dispatch the locally trained to a pasture?
He is talking about rapes to distract attention to his rapes of America and Europe.
Why doesn’t this bastard talk of rapes of detainees by Israeli IDF whose survival depends on US?

Now Pakistan should do one thing –

1- Dont acknowldege copy right of X and build one
2 Don’t allow Starlink ( if Tik Tok can be handled by US at Israeli persuasion , Pakistan Indonesia India Malaysia should do same to Google facebook Amazon and X . I dont have to start or say. Its already being discussed in Indonesia and Pakistan ).

3 It should know Starlink is a Trojan’s mule and it will spy on Pakistanin nuke.

Except for Pakistan, of course.

Yes, so they should all get themselves back posthaste. Pakistan needs Pakistanis; England/America does not.

Safe to say most nations have an interest in keeping their citizenry at home, even if they don’t compel them to do so.

Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars
Mexico Institute

Understanding Mexico’s Changing Immigration Laws
Laura V. González-Murphy

Mexico is a country of emigration and immigration but the Mexican government’s policy toward Mexicans who have emigrated, particularly those in the United States, stands in stark contrast to how the government treats immigrants on Mexican territory. While Mexican policymakers demand openness from the United States, the Mexican government not only limits the rights of foreigners but immigrants are often subject to human rights violations by the Mexican police and immigration officials, as well as fall victim to violent criminals…

Illegal Immigration Is Illegal: Mexico Disagrees
@ Gateway Pundit By Antonio Graceffo
Mar. 23, 2024
The second-largest source of income for Mexican drug cartels is human trafficking into the U.S… The cartels have so much sway over the Mexican government that even the country’s president is speaking out against Texas laws countering illegal immigration.

Alejandro Arcos, the Mayor of Chilpancingo, Mexico Is Beheaded Six Days After Taking Office – Head Found on Truck
By Gateway Hispanic Oct. 8, 2024
[So, are Pakistanis in Mexico, too? Ha! Just kidding, Pelican – I included this story just to take a swipe at Mestizos/Mexico…]

You’re still stuck in the notion that ‘Pakistani’ and ‘Afghani’ constitute distinct ethnic cohorts rather than nationalities.

No, I think your “meanderingâ€� is indicative of my overall point – common behaviors can be discerned amongst people of a same/similar ethnic group (race/ethnicity sometimes overlaps, yes?), notwithstanding the behaviors generally common to all people. So, Germans and Swedes are similar in appearance/behaviors/intellect; so are Nigerians and Bantus, although Nigerians often assert that Bantus are amongst the worst of the Africans. Compared to Germans, Nigerians and Bantus are little different, in my opinion. Compared to England, Pakistan may as well be Africa.

Could you tell us when the last time Britain engaged in a similar kind of campaign on its own soil?

An ethnic cleansing campaign on its own soil? Or, internment based on race/ethnicity? A little of both…

During World War I, the United Kingdom used concentration camps to control those they could not or would not bring before the courts: men who had committed no offense besides belonging to the wrong nationality or ethnic group. Among these were Germans and Austrians living in Britain as well as Irish citizens suspected of disloyalty to the crown.

In June 1940, with a German invasion expected at any moment, Prime Minister Winston Churchill decided to arrest every German and Austrian in the country and send them all to concentration camps. To those who reminded him that many of these people were Jewish refugees, he responded briefly and memorably: “Collar the lot!�

The Native Americans, who readily slaughtered/tortured/genocided other Native Americans in their endeavors to conquer more territory/acquire assets, got a spanking from a superior foe and then whined about “human rights,� which was a concept previously unknown to the (mostly) savage lot. So, apartheid arrived for the Red Man, which was more generous than what they customarily doled out to their co-ethnic enemies. Apartheid is an underrated/much maligned policy; regarding those plucky Pakistanis, deportation is a better option. Cultural/civil apartheid would work, too.

When this Venetia returned home to the Emperor, the Emperor ordered him to build a ship; and several English-men, that were newly taken slaves, he caused to draw timber in a cart from Memora to Salley… like so many oxen, driving and whipping of them in a very barbarous manner.

The name of Venetia caused me to insert this here, to show the barbarous cruelty of this inhumane wretch…but I took my passage for England… at last delivered from under the hands of this inhumane tyrant and his hellish crew of Negroes; beseeching Almighty God, that all my country-men, in all their affairs and negotiations, may ever escape from his cruel hands. [Francis Brooks, 1693, […] Under The Tryanny of Mully Ishmael, Emperor of Morocco…in Barbary

The Muslims/Moors weren’t innocent then; nor are they today. [Another swipe at Muslims, but is it really random? Are Muslims in Middle East/Asia, like modern Europeans, to be held to account for their history?]

It shouldn’t be. Completely agreed.

The reason it was deemed racist to report on the identities of the groomers was because they were Pakistanis/Muslims/Not-White. That’s the general proof of the ethnicity/race of the offenders. Then there’s all those photographs…

If we aggregate these numbers and compare them to the general population of Pakistani

What you seem to be suggesting is that we sit around and do (mostly) nothing until their numbers (Pakistanis, Africans, et al) further swell and their crimes exponentially increase in severity and frequency, then we act, whilst we hope all the while that Magic Dirt Syndrome kicks in and they just eventually stop being who/what they inherently are, which is NOT European. (The issues they bring to European society is not just criminal, btw, but for the sake of brevity…) So, shall we use Pelican’s daughter/granddaughter-child as our guinea pig whilst we wait it out? Mary-Ann Leneghan and Kriss Donald say, for God’s sake, no. Pava LaPere says, I sacrificed my waste-of-a-life for retributive justice because I was stuffed with lies and false narratives about history and White Peoples.

Please, Pelican – we have to throw the brown/black babies out with the bathwater. There is no other way. Jews go, too. There are many ways to do this without overt Genocide! We could do to them what’s currently being done to us…only, we have truth/reality on our side (mostly).

Please provide evidence that Bukele is engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing.

Define ethnic cleansing.

Have you been to London or Paris lately?

What happened to all the White People in Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis, Memphis, Mississippi…you don’t exactly see piles of white corpses everywhere, yet Whites are mostly gone.

Oh, Pelican, you seem to be arguing exactly what “Ourâ€� enemies have spent decades inculcating us to believe – all (non-Jewish) ethnic groups/races should just try to get along and accept our differences graciously, unless we’re using European norms as the measure in European nations, of course, then we must resist our insistence upon European/White supremacy – safe streets; good schools; functioning electrical grids and first-world infrastructure be damned. And, the Jews are trying to keep us at each others throats, except when they’re trying to teach us to just get along…

Housebuilding? 😆 Indians do no physical work whatsoever, skilled or unskilled. You must not know anything about Indians.

Surely a racist carnt like you should be top of any obnoxious table.

Actually the ones who understand Indian Civilisation the least are the Indians.

Thank you.

This is because they are given to whimsical thinking. They confuse what they wish to be so, with what is so.

Precisely. One of the most central teachings of the Buddha is to see things for what they are. Indians simply can’t do that because behind their grievances lies the acute butthurt and insecurity of the brahmin caste. Most Indians themselves don’t understand the source of their own anger. It’s amusing to hear low caste Hindus whine about how central asian Muslims destroyed their temples when their own grandparents wouldn’t have been welcome in those temples. The Indian’s failing is pride and envy. The slogan for Hindutva is: गरà¥�व से कहो हम हिनà¥�दू हैं (say with pride “we are Hindus”). They themselves don’t know what exactly they should be proud of, but pride is their drug.

Video Link

How the British pulled off a $45 trillion heist in India….
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/independence-day-how-the-british-pulled-off-a-45-trillion-heist-in-india/articleshow/102746097.cms?from=mdr

I’m just looking at the issue differently than most people. Remember when Trump said he was going to “crackdown” on MS-13 gangs coming from Latin America? I think that’s a good comparison to what Tommy is saying. Ultimately, targeted initiatives such as that do not diminish the demand for mass immigration, nor do they stop the various pipelines of migrants coming in from all over the world.

I’m not sure about that. Many poor Third World countries depend on the remittances of their overseas workers and immigrants, and encourage their citizens to go overseas.

It’s true true they benefit from sending students abroad, though most of them are keen upon having those students return. It isn’t just money these countries are looking for. They usually intend to educate many of them in American/European universities and then retain them at home, lest they suffer a brain drain.

As for other workers, they’re here primarily to earn for both themselves and their families back home, but any given country can’t afford too great an exodus of its citizens.

That’s just basic economics at play.

A liar and an idiot.

Since there is so little opposition to immigration and the crimes committed by all immigrants, any help is welcome even if it doesn’t cover all the immigrant groups but only some of them. No?

Safe to say most nations have an interest in keeping their citizenry at home, even if they don’t compel them to do so.

I’m not sure about that. Many poor Third World countries depend on the remittances of their overseas workers and immigrants, and encourage their citizens to go overseas.

All this genuflecting from a man (Woods) who thinks it would be a great idea if England became Muslim. Did he mean white Muslims? Kinda doubt it. Just another third worlder in pro white clothing, much like his butt buddy Nick ‘the dick’ fountain. Swiping left.

Okay, nice work, Anonymous 1.

But proving the under reporting of white on white pedophilia doesn’t disprove the under reporting of the Pakistani groomers. It would make more sense to say that both are true, which would be consistent with general law enforcement negligence in the UK.

Frankly, I find the moral posturing of someone like Elon Musk to be the epitome of hypocrisy. Leaving aside his own sordid family affairs, he’s clearly trying to divert attention away from the vitriol he received while promoting Operation Hindutva Deluge. That’s really all this is.

I mean, the colossal douchebag continues to hold Israel’s balls even while they’re committing criminal offenses of a far greater magnitude than anything a tiny minority of Pakistani Brits ever have.

It’s just too damn transparent.

No one is worried over fewer Pakistanis in Pakistan.

Except for Pakistan, of course.

Safe to say most nations have an interest in keeping their citizenry at home, even if they don’t compel them to do so.

Do you observe similarities in Pakistani/Afghani cultural/national practices?

You’re still stuck in the notion that ‘Pakistani’ and ‘Afghani’ constitute distinct ethnic cohorts rather than nationalities. What you should be doing is examining the Pashtun ethnic cohort, since this cohort transcends the boundaries between northwest Pakistan and southern Afghanistan.

Based on my own research, bacha bazi is more prevalent among irreligious Pashtuns.

My position is there should be no Pakistani population in England/ America, and yes, many could be expelled, and those who remain could be forced to stop their predations, and the lack of respect for English culture/authority could be curtailed. It’s been done in the past; have we somehow lost all ability to defend ourselves?

Well, I agree about stronger enforcement of already existing laws. No problem.

But the last time Americans engaged in anything remotely resembling an ethnic cleansing campaign on its own soil was back in the 19th century, and not only were Native American populations not removed wholesale, they were also accorded tracts of territory regarded as autonomous nations to this day. What’s more, they’re also considered to be American citizens with all the rights conferred upon individuals living outside the confines of reservations.

Could you tell us when the last time Britain engaged in a similar kind of campaign on its own soil?

So, WHY was it racist to report on the ethnicity of the Groomers?

It shouldn’t be. Completely agreed.

2021 – The town of Rochdale’s population…its ethnic makeup was 57.2% White, 34.3% Asian.

That doesn’t track with the 2021 ONS stats online:

How does denying the issue of disproportionate black/brown violence/crime/low IQ/inherent resentment/dysfunctional proclivities help us?

You miss the point.

I have no problem reporting on the ethnicity of perps nor the disproportionate representation of any given ethnic group in crime stats. None whatsoever.

But there’s a big difference between acknowledging these reports and using them to justify an ethnic cleansing campaign, the latter of which you’re admittedly seeking to spearhead.

In order to do that, you’d first have to provide a stat showing how many British citizens/residents of Pakistani descent actually commit these crimes. We could zoom out even further and look at how many such people commit felony offenses in general.

If we aggregate these numbers and compare them to the general population of Pakistani Brits, I’d venture to say that we’re looking at less than 3% of that group. That’s not a ratio likely to persuade enough people to realize your objective.

Feel free to prove my estimate wrong, by the way. I’m entirely open to that possibility.

Have you seen what’s going on in El Salvador? The impossible, according to you, is happening therein.

Oh?

Please provide evidence that Bukele is engaged in a campaign of ethnic cleansing.

What’s annoying me here is that you’re pretending that he’s not pro all these other foreign people who aren’t Muslims.

It isn’t my intention to annoy you; we’ve haunted the same threads often enough for you to know my general position on all non-European migration into European nations; on the Whites who support/Love it!; and I have written herein – Tommy Robinson does not/did not go far enough in his advocacy for the English in England.

I watched the first video and about 2-3 minutes of the second. I don’t disagree with the sentiments of the speaker in #1; Talmud Tommy (#2) is apropos, however we do see Tommy insisting he’s not a racist – antisemitism is the pinnacle of Racism, so he’s toeing the line. When he starts bringing a copy of the Bell Curve to his interviews instead of the Koran, we’ll know he’s getting a clue.

I speculate that he is accurately describing his lived experience; the small number of Bangladeshis and Indians were not problematic, therefore he was stunned by the conduct of the newly arrived Pakistanis/Muslims/whomever. What Talmud Tommy fails to understand is that model minorities often unravel when minority groups, be it theirs or others, expand, and then Whites high-tail it out of Diversity Dodge, and voila! Western society devolves without Western people to sustain it. (Around here, we are accustomed to the shenanigans of the Mestizos; now we have even more Mexicans, Indians, and the blacks are arriving daily. They will all join forces against the White Devils, and I struggle to get “my people� to think about/plan for what’s coming)

I don’t pretend Tommy is not missing the big picture; I just wonder how it’s possible for someone like him to walk through today’s London, and despite being able to still do so, generally, without receiving a machete to the neck or acid to the face, he doesn’t concern himself over the ever-degrading conditions throughout and the dearth of White faces; it’s the same in Paris. We’re all in the same Camp of the Saints boat.

Jews stick together; so should we. Someone needs to save Tommy from himself. That’s all I’m sayin’.

He wants more Sikhs and less Muslims. He’s like a Sikh and Hindu advocate, along with being a Zionist.

Why he ignored the below “Grooming Gangs” due to them not being Muslims. His Zionist Handlers keep him away reporting on some cases if they do not fit the narrative.

Tommy Robinson misses another Grooming Gang, why??

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Sikh Groooming Gang in Middlesbrough.

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Grooming gang in Devon.

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More Groomers ignored by Tommy.

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Tommy Robinson is a multiculti liberal, who loves the browning of Britain as long as it’s Sikhs or Hindus doing the browning, and not Muslims. What’s annoying me here is that you’re pretending that he’s not pro all these other foreign people who aren’t Muslims. I’ve already demonstrated that. That’s what he is. He wants more Sikhs and less Muslims. He’s like a Sikh and Hindu advocate, along with being a Zionist.

This video isn’t great, but it’s adequate. The first part is someone talking about Tommy, and the second part is Tommy explaining his appreciation of Sikhs and Hindus who are anti-Islam. The perfect immigrants. And he has fantasies about building a multiethnic coalition against Muslims.

https://odysee.com/@Tony_Martin:2/tommy-robinson-supports-immigration-as:e

Here’s another one:

https://odysee.com/@AtheistRepublic:2/british-values-under-attack-tommy:2

If ethnicity is your concern, how is this ‘meandering’?

Ethnicity, as it relates to culture/politics/social norms, is/should be of utmost concern, especially in nations currently subjected to deliberate demographic replacement, which can be narrowed down to ONLY western/White nations. No one is worried over fewer Pakistanis in Pakistan.

Do you observe similarities in Pakistani/Afghani cultural/national practices? Based on what? Islam or ethnic proclivities/sensibilities? Do you discern group behaviors when convenient, then?

This is, quite frankly, getting tiresome

Agreed. How about tedious? You accused me of trolling, which implies arguing for the pure sake of arguing, with no honest intentions or purpose, so here’s one final troll – tedious.

Now I don’t deny this ethnic cohort may be over-represented relative to their general numbers,

My position is there should be no Pakistani population in England/ America, and yes, many could be expelled, and those who remain could be forced to stop their predations, and the lack of respect for English culture/authority could be curtailed. It’s been done in the past; have we somehow lost all ability to defend ourselves?

On those cohorts, about whom White Haters incessantly lie, lie, lie –

Raped by Afghan, Pregnant Woman Pleaded for Help But Three Pakistanis Passing by Raped Her Too
Breitbart, June 27, 2021
An Afghan migrant raped a 25-year-old pregnant woman in an Athens [Greece] neighbourhood, and when she begged for help from three Pakistanis passing by, they raped her, too.

Grooming Gangs Come from Diverse Backgrounds‘, Says Home Office
The Independent, December 16, 2020
Grooming gangs come from “diverse backgrounds”, a Home Office review has concluded.
The research, originally promised by Sajid Javid in 2018, was published on Tuesday following a government U-turn.
The Home Office previously said releasing the paper would not be in the “public interest”, in response to a Freedom of Information request by The Independent, but committed to making it public after a petition signed by more than 130,000 people.

The paper said that although a number of high-profile grooming cases, including Rotherham, Rochdale and Telford mainly involved men of Pakistani ethnicity, “links between ethnicity and this form of offending” could not be proven.

“Some studies suggest an over-representation of black and Asian offenders relative to the demographics of national populations. However, it is not possible to conclude that this is representative of all group-based CSE offending.”

Child Sex Abuse Inquiry Refused to Probe Rotherham and Rochdale Grooming Gangs as It’s Scared of Being Called Racist’
The Sun, October 24, 2020
A CHILD sex abuse inquiry reportedly refused to probe Rotherham and Rochdale grooming gangs as it is “scared of being called racist”.

Sammy Woodhouse, a victim of a Rotherham gang, blasted the public inquiry has “not placed survivors at the forefront” of the probe.

â€�They are trying to bury what happened in places like Rotherham and Rochdale because they’re scared of being called racist.”
And Sarah Champion, a campaigner for child victims, questioned the decision to not hear evidence on the northern grooming networks.

So, WHY was it racist to report on the ethnicity of the Groomers? Were the victims of the groomers all color-blind? There must be a reason why the English authorities refused to expose all those White/Celtic/Saxon Groomers….

Homework:
2021 – The town of Rochdale’s population…its ethnic makeup was 57.2% White, 34.3% Asian.
2011 – White 65.2% Asian 27.5%
2001 – White 78.7% 19.9% Asian

How we address this issue is more important than pointing out it exists.

How does denying the issue of disproportionate black/brown violence/crime/low IQ/inherent resentment/dysfunctional proclivities help us?

Hardly a Mestizo to be seen.

Lucky you. Have you seen what’s going on in El Salvador? The impossible, according to you, is happening therein. Bukele’s not even White; he looks Persian. He has European ancestry. Maybe he’s an Aryan of yore (Odysseus claims there was a swarthy Aryan sect). In any event, he’s not a Mestizo, but El Salvador is full of them.

Here’s your link; only one of many that can be found if you would only look:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3240295/Imam-tells-Muslim-migrants-breed-children-Europeans-conquer-countries-vows-trample-underfoot-Allah-willing.html

Post links with your claims or don’t bother posting!

Is there a specific claim I made about Robinson that is under dispute?

who took the time to painstakingly read through all the court documents and explain them in easy to understand terms.

I understand that Robinson is currently in jail for a contempt of court charge; that’s all I know to date. Perhaps he has contempt for English authority/court. He would be foolish to do anything other than publicly deny he was aware/duly noticed of a proceeding; in fact, he shouldn’t be speaking on it publicly, at all. Maybe a little Taqiyya is in order for a few English lads these days…what’s good for the Jihadis is good for the Golden Geese.

Is Sharia compatible with western jurisprudence? Millions of Muslims say, sure it is. They also say they will breed the English out of England.

So, did you painstakingly read through all the subject court documents or are you relying on the proficiency of random X guy?

As for Douglas Murray, I’ve read part of his book The War on the West

Well, thanks for the exposé of his book; I’ll likely cross it off my list. I haven’t read his books, but I’ve listened/watched many of his lectures/debates. It’s only recently that I’ve observed his love of all things Israel. Here’s the latest –

I do think any criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic…if this wild lack of empathy for the state of Israel means anything, you’ve got to come back to this primordial triple standard, and we know it can come from anywhere; antisemitism is a shape-shifting virus…it can come from everywhere at the same time… people say, why are you so bothered about Israel? I hear that from the right…It seems to me… western civilization is based on the legacy of Athens and Jerusalem…[the destruction of Israel means] one of the underpinnings of western civilization, utterly, utterly at risk…[if all Jews were killed] it’s the end of the people who saw off everyone from pharaoh to Hitler… everyone else, in my view, wouldn’t survive either. Western civilization could not survive the destruction of the state of Israel, because it would be… the cutting away of the whole tree that we’re on; our civilization would die…It’s about America! Could America survive if the Jewish people were no more on its watch?

I guess he thinks western civilization began in 1948?

If Tommy is a true believer, then it’s not any better in my opinion…And I don’t see why it would be better if Tommy was secretly anti-Jewish, but publicly he’s deliberately pro-Jewish, he goes to pro-Israel rallies, and he promotes Zionism.

I understand your point, and I agree with you. Robinson does us no ultimate good regarding the Basilisk that is Israel, but consider what Murray said about the underpinnings of our civilization. The ausrotten of that notion must begin somewhere; perhaps it begins with the migrant “crisis� which was thrust upon us by the OpenBorder/WarsForIsrael People. I found my way to the answer to the JQ by first looking into the root(less) causes of Africans in America; civil rights mumbo-jumbo; immigration “reform�; obscured crime information; media collusion in censorship; who owns/runs the media, so on…they all lead to the same answer.

So, people like Murray are a lost cause. I believe Robinson is lying to himself over his pro-browning of England stance because he doesn’t see the world from an ivory tower; I don’t think he really believes what he asserts in that regard. That doesn’t make him an ally, necessarily, but I’m saying that he and his ilk have the potential to be brought into the fold of those determined to get to the root of Murray’s Kosher Tree and yanking it out someday. Hopefully, someday soon.

And, Robinson’s a White man stuck smack in the mire of the browning of the White West, and he has been outspoken on the matter of Muslim immigration in a manner that very few Whites have been willing to do; did he shill for Israel/Jews from the beginning? I don’t know and I don’t care, as too many Whites/Christians have been conditioned to believe Jews are our classic allies, as I once did, so it’s a mistake to write him/them off, wholly, in my opinion, as he/they can be reconditioned by the truth/reality. Robinson has White children; he and his progeny contain the well-spring of Western Civilization, and that’s the Reality.

Therefore, I appreciate Robinson for what he has done, or tried to do, for White England. Did he do enough? I ask from the anonymous comfort of my gated community in America…

Allegation that gang members aren’t arrested due to political correctness.

The above is one of the biggest lies we have been fed in relation to why the abuse was and is still swept under the carpet. It plays well into the dividing of communities in the England and sadly fall for it including the TommyTards.

No political figures wether at local or goverment level will own up and admit that they made mistakes. They see themselves as being unaccountable.

Ex Met Detective John Wedger

The Child Abuse Cover Up – A Police Whistleblower Speaks.

In a courageous and explosive audio interview with UK Column “Despatches from the Front”, Detective Constable John Wedger, a Metropolitan Police child protection specialist, takes the lid off the scale of child abuse, trafficking and prostitution in London and UK. He exposes the lies, threats and intimidation used by the police, Local Authorities, Social Services, Politicians, Charities and others to protect Establishment figures and Westminster.

This criminal conspiracy seeks to deceive the public and stop the truth emerging in every possible way.

Young children taken from care, stolen, picked up on the street, groomed for sex, drugged, sickened with serious disease, or dying in the gutter are shown to be the worthless play things of powerful people – the same people who run Britain, and the very authorities supposedly protecting families, society and the weak and vulnerable.

John Wedger’s courage deserves that everyone listening to his testimony circulates it and demands action.

A Britain run by those who protect child abusers and murders is shown to be the sickening reality, but a far danger future lurks beneath the surface as this criminal British State, unchecked, grabs yet more power over families and children by the day…

https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-child-abuse-cover-up-a-police-whistleblower-speaks--9063689

Panorama and the BBC Cover-up of Child Abuse.

Despite multiple victims, corroberating evidence and statements, and a brave Asian tutor who first exposed the abuse of white children by white men, the whole matter was covered up by OCVC staff, Oxford City and County Councils, Oxfordshire Safeguarding, Ofsted, Thames Valley Police and others…

https://www.ukcolumn.org/blogs/panorama-and-bbc-cover-child-abuse

There’s absolute principle, but there are also degrees of obnoxiousness and urgency, and thus priority. In order from least to most:

Anglo-Celts – other Germanic or Celtic Europeans – other northwestern Europeans – other non-Jewish whites – assimilated longtime Jews – Hasidic / foreign / recent Jews – non Chinese Orientals – Chinese – Christian “browns” (mestizo, Filipino, Indonesian, etc) – Hindus Sikhs pagans and other non-Abrahamic browns – Muslim browns / Christian blacks (hard to choose which is worse) – pagan blacks – Muslim blacks.

At the very at least, with Israel existing now, it doesn’t sense to allow any further immigration of them, especially on a large scale – the old “but they have nowhere else to go” is not true anymore.

Of course. But your prohibited from pointing that out.

They’re both basically antiracist liberals. I don’t care about this distinction between being a “Jewish operative” or just being “brainwashed” because both Douglas Murray and Tommy Robinson are being paid by Zionist orgs anyway. If Tommy is a true believer, then it’s not any better in my opinion, as opposed to being a cynical paid shill. And I don’t see why it would be better if Tommy was secretly anti-Jewish, but publicly he’s deliberately pro-Jewish, he goes to pro-Israel rallies, and he promotes Zionism. Why would it be better if he was secretly anti-Jewish in those circumstances? It would actually be worse in my opinion, because that means he’s totally full of shit.

As for Douglas Murray, I’ve read part of his book The War on the West, published three years ago. It’s really just a bunch of conservative ideas.

I’m skimming through it now. Murray complains about a lot of things in that book. He complains about “Critical Race Theory” because it’s too racist. He complains about “identity politics” because group identities shouldn’t matter, and we’re just supposed to be individuals floating in space. His critique of “the Left” is that they’re too racist and we’re not supposed to be racist, plus white people aren’t really racist so just please stop calling us racist.

He also complains about China and how they’re “genociding” the Uighurs and doing all these other terrible things to people. He thinks we should really care a lot about that. He’s like “it’s the 1940s all over again.” He says China are the real racists, and people should really fear them because totalitarianism. He also complains that not enough people in the West have favorable attitudes towards capitalism.

Here’s one of his more serious complaints about the decline of the West:

Equal if not greater ignorance can be found in America. A poll carried out in 2020 found that almost two-thirds of Americans between the ages of eighteen and thirty-nine had no idea that 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust. According to the study, almost half of Americans in their twenties and thirties could not name a single concentration camp or ghetto established by the Nazis during World War II. About one in eight young Americans (12 percent) said that they had not heard of the Holocaust or didn’t think that they had heard of it.

What a horrible state of affairs. He also has a great passage about his personal hero:

Churchill had been right on many things in his long career, as he had been wrong on some, but identifying the menace of Hitler early on in the 1930s and urging rearmament and facing down the appeasers made him—even before his conduct of the war—one of the great figures of any period in history. Many people talk of fascism and antifascism, but here, without doubt, was the twentieth century’s greatest antifascist. If anything, his reputation only grew in the decades after his death. In 2002, he beat off all competition to be voted by the British public as “The Greatest Briton� of all time.

He thinks it’s way out of line to refer to such a great man as “a drunk”.

Anyway, he goes on to try and rehabilitate Winston Churchill and he complains about how terrible it is that people compare the pristine British Empire to the despicable Nazi regime. He says more context and nuance is necessary.

A good portion of the book is spent “defending” historical figures. But since he agrees that racism and bigotry are the worst things ever, his defense amounts to “they really weren’t that racist, all things considered.” And this is supposed to make white people feel good, because if these men from the 18th and 19th century really were as terrible as “the Leftists” claim, if they really were Nazis, then we rightfully should feel shameful.

Finally, at the end, he gives us the answer to our problems:

the only way to transcend the divisions is to forge “a civic culture that respects both differences and commonalities.� And the only way this can be done “is through education that seeks to comprehend the diversity of human culture.� And to recognize that “any human being sufficiently curious and motivated can fully possess another culture, no matter how ‘alien’ it may appear to be.�

So he has no solutions, just more MLK, and his book is just complaining about leftists and their hypocrisy.

They’re neither English nor Celtic. They do not belong in Great Britain or Ireland.

Interesting. Now do Jews.

Yeah that guy Malla is a weirdo. He literally skips over dozens of comments by WHITES stating that Indians are just good at kissing up to them (hoping to back stab them) – but he seeks out to combat Chinese (ethnic or otherwise). Real weirdo.

The EDL have paedophiles in their ranks but Tommy Robinson evidently doesn’t condemn them!

Sure, and they’re probably more disproportionately represented in that group than grooming gang members are in the general population of Pakistani immigrants and their progeny.

But it’s a waste of time and energy to pursue this angle, since you’re only going to elicit angry responses that point to the greater severity of crimes committed by grooming gangs as well as the allegation that gang members aren’t arrested due to political correctness.

And round and round and round it goes… the maddening calliope of Zionist instigation, leaving us all dizzied, dissatisfied, and distempered, just as our enemies prefer.

Aside from having us literally kill each other, could they ask for a better outcome?

this ethnic cohort

To be accurate, ‘Pakistani’ isn’t an actual ethnicity.

In Britain, we’d be talking about immigrants originating from Pakistan or their descendants.

Are you the producer of these stupid fake videos??? You realize people can go themselves and see that you are a liar (or an idiot)?

A brutal empire at that… One who was toe to toe with the feared Mongols for a long time. But yeah their view is based on the “cold war” where they had to rehabilitate Tibet to use as a prick against China. So that supposedly reformed Nazi wrote a story Seven Years in Tibet and they made a Hollywood movie as a psyop.

Yes but there is a big difference between being wise and intelligent. You can be wise without being very intelligent – and vice versa. Those protestors holding up US flags and signs in English show all of what they are about (like in the HK protests)… Doesn’t mean they lack intelligence though. They lack wisdom — and probably some moral conviction as well.

Oh that is very interesting about the Malay people in Singapore now. I recall years back the talk used to be how to get them to do better in the schools in Singapore. That’s interesting to see how things changed.

But really the separatist Uighurs are/were the militants. All the neighboring “stan” countries know Xinjiang has a higher standard of living than their own countries. That’s partly why they are all in the Shanghai Cooperation Org… It was a security grouping – but the rationality that would lead to economic development. Except for the Baloch extremist militants in Pakistan – most everyone else is participating one way or another.

The whole Musk-Robinson brouhaha is inseparable from the Zionist war against both Muslims and the west.

They’ve been agitating for this sort of conflict for years.

Written in 1993:

Mossad script sets U.S. against Islam
https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1993/eirv20n28-19930723/eirv20n28-19930723_058-mossad_script_sets_us_against_is.pdf

You meandered from rape-y Pakistanis to rape-y Afghans.

You mentioned northwestern Pakistan specifically, which is comprised of the same ethnic group (Pashtun) as resides in southern Afghanistan. Your concern is with ethnicity, right?

If ethnicity is your concern, how is this ‘meandering’?

Look, dude… This is, quite frankly, getting tiresome, so I’ll focus on your comment that seems to cut to the heart of the matter, since I don’t think readers here have a whole lot of patience for either of us right now — if, that is, they’re even paying attention anymore:

[Y]ou deny reality, statistics, and human biodiversity.

No, not at all.

The statistic I have yet to see is the percentage of Pakistani immigrants (naturalized or otherwise) who are part of these grooming gangs. I’d venture to say it’s still a small minority relative to their general population, though I would like to confirm this.

Now I don’t deny this ethnic cohort may be over-represented relative to their general numbers, but even if this is so, the notion that trumpeting these stats far and wide will ever result in the wholesale removal of the Pakistani population from Britain or any other European country is a pie-in-the-sky fantasy. Furthermore, even if you proscribed their immigration tomorrow, that’s not going to solve the problem.

The more practical solution, as such, is to actually apply the law without fear that police are running afoul of some politically correct code of conduct. In fact, the penalty for this kind of crime should be made far more severe, as it is in most Muslim dominant countries. That, too, may be wishful thinking, but it’s a more easily attainable goal than some kind of ethnic cleansing campaign.

Poster Colin Wright has called for a moratorium on *all* immigration, which, in my opinion, is also unrealistic, but I’m still in favor of establishing more restrictive quotas.

In summary, I’m looking for results, not just statistics. The fact that sexually explicit material is ‘consumed’ far more in America than in any other nation on earth doesn’t interest me as much as its damaging social effects, including, but not limited to, the deterioration of family life and plummeting birth rates. How we address this issue is more important than pointing out it exists.

FWIW, I’m a white American, born and raised, and the minority population where I live (well north of Texas) is, in fact, quite small. Hardly a Mestizo to be seen.

Post links with your claims or don’t bother posting!

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=887654860066159&set=a.638081525023495

This is the best summary of the #TommyRobinson saga so far.

– who took the time to painstakingly read through all the court documents and explain them in easy to understand terms.

This is the best summary of the #TommyRobinson saga so far.

Credit to @Politic56721677 – who took the time to painstakingly read through all the court documents and explain them in easy to understand terms.

Full video: https://t.co/AytUAMehRX pic.twitter.com/qsFNxwPC7e

— Lucy Brown (@lucymarionbrown) July 28, 2024

The EDL have paedophiles in their ranks but Tommy Robinson evidently doesn’t condemn them!

https://politicsandinsights.org/2018/05/29/the-edl-have-paedophiles-in-their-ranks-but-tommy-robinson-evidently-doesnt-condemn-them/