Very interesting. I understand you might be busy but might it be possible to get the key sentences from each article?
Jewish John’s Johnson (in relation to my asking him to name a leader of a political movement and political philosophy that he admires, which has provided workable policies that can remedy America’s ills), writes:
I’ve pointed out an alternative many times.
Well, I’ve never seen it.
Can you provide a link* to the comment in UR where you did?
(*Failure to do so will prove that you’re a BALD FACED LIAR – not that we didn’t already know that).
Chris, you make sweeping statements like that above - which YOU ARE UNABLE to back up.
Ron Paul and the libertarian homosexuals, bisexuality and transsexuals (who are mostly jews and their stooges) have had 24 years since the 9/11 inside job to step up ....
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Lastly, I'll end with this.
Summary: Of all the people Chris Moore could be criticising (eg: the endless list of ZOG sock puppets over the last 30 years in U.S politics alone - like Bill and Hillary Clinton, Obama, Biden, Donald Chump, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, John McCain, Dick Cheney, Michael Chertoff, Dov Zakheim, Chuck Schumer, Pelosi, Tom Cotton, Adam Schiff etc), you choose Dr Ron Paul - the 21st century reincarnation of Thomas Jefferson, only even better!!WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU MOORE?
How did you become this eff'd up in the head?
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The reality there is NO ONE in the entire history of the republic that has been even remotely as:1) Economically literate as Dr Ron Paul
If you can't answer that, THEN STFU you eff'n dickhead.
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But said people (like you Chris Moore and Jewish John’s Johnson – to name just two among many), NEVER OFFER AN ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION or nominate a thought leader of their ‘movement’ and then say: ‘This is how we should go about it and this political party will be our salvation’.
I’ve pointed out an alternative many times.
White men make their own decisions using classic Roman/Greek reason to decide what is good for their societies instead of relying on the poisonous teachings of Alisa Rosenbaum.
That is how White leaders ruled their countries for thousands of years. Discuss using reason whether or not policies like legalizing all drugs and opening the border are good ideas. That is the better alternative than holding up the Book of Randians and decreeing that all drugs must be legal and that we must let in an unlimited amount of third world immigrants. As a reminder Rand broke her own cult rules when she said that Arabs should not be allowed into Israel. She is on record calling them savages which contradicts her own professed belief that racial collectivism is the worst form. I’m amazed by how many White men still follow the teachings of this witch when she is actually on video breaking her own rules. If you want to feel like you are part of something then start your own movement. The legal drugs and open borders movement (aka libertarianism) is a rejection of Western reason and requires accepting that the founder was not only a complete hypocrite but a psychopath that hated Christianity and admired child killer William Hickman.
Well, I've never seen it.
I’ve pointed out an alternative many times.
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Ron Paul and the libertarian homosexuals, bisexuality and transsexuals (who are mostly jews and their stooges) have had 24 years since the 9/11 inside job to step up ….
Chris, you make sweeping statements like that above – which YOU ARE UNABLE to back up.
So I’ll give you an opportunity before I wipe the floor with you.
Name me one* (JUST ONE SOLITARY high profile M-F’er in the libertarian movement in recent decades), that was a homosexual.
(*There is one possible exception to the rule).
As is well known, the Libertarian party was long ago infiltrated by ZOG and it was thus stacked with more than a few of its foot soldiers. With that in mind, a woke f*ckwit was nominated to lead the party to be their candidate for the 2024 Presidential election.
I don’t know if he was homosexual or identified as some other degenerate subset of society, nor do I particularly care – since no one paid heed to this non entity while he was around.
Suffice to say, no one heard of him before his nomination and that he was immediately discarded into the dustbin of history after the election.
What I’m getting at was: This individual was NEVER a prominent libertarian and never will be.
(This vaxxed-to-the-max idiot actually advocated for the toxic clot shots and the other Gubmint tyranny during the Covid Psyop.
He said the Covid vaxx should be mandatory – a most UN-libertarian position).
Let’s put up some names of the most prominent libertarians of the last 30 years. eg: Dr Ron Paul and son Rand, Thomas Massie, Lew Rockwell, Harry Browne, Tom Woods PhD, Hans-Hermann Hoppe etc.
And what can you tell me about them?
That’s right – not a single Jew among them, and all happily married men with families (no degenerates in the mix).
Meanwhile, we do have one prominent libertarian Jew in recent years – and thank God for him.
I refer to the former stand-up comedian Dave Smith.
And he’s done more in the last 12 months alone (calling out America’s murderous foreign policy, making SCATHING CRITICISMS of the Apartheid Israeli state and their mass slaughter of Palestinians), than you Chris have done in your whole eff’n life – you miserable sod.
Summary: Of all the people Chris Moore could be criticising (eg: the endless list of ZOG sock puppets over the last 30 years in U.S politics alone – like Bill and Hillary Clinton, Obama, Biden, Donald Chump, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, John McCain, Dick Cheney, Michael Chertoff, Dov Zakheim, Chuck Schumer, Pelosi, Tom Cotton, Adam Schiff etc), you choose Dr Ron Paul – the 21st century reincarnation of Thomas Jefferson, only even better!!
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU MOORE?
How did you become this eff’d up in the head?
Lastly, I’ll end with this.
The standard M.O of those smearing Dr Ron Paul and the libertarians is to say that the former (even though they were never in power at a Federal or state level, and thus had limited capacity to enact change), could have done more, that they could have at least done this and that.
But said people (like you Chris Moore and Jewish John’s Johnson – to name just two among many), NEVER OFFER AN ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION or nominate a thought leader of their ‘movement’ and then say: ‘This is how we should go about it and this political party will be our salvation’.
So Moore, here it goes for the last time:
WHAT POLITICAL PARTY ARE YOU ALIGNED WITH and which political leader (or chief proponent of a political philosophy), should we all be listening to?
If you can’t answer that, THEN STFU you eff’n dickhead.
The reality there is NO ONE in the entire history of the republic that has been even remotely as:
1) Economically literate as Dr Ron Paul
2) Right on foreign policy issues – I mean 100% right (with NO exceptions)
3) As sensible on the need for fiscal and monetary prudence and the need for MINIMAL GUBMINT.
4) Wise in respect of the need to immediately implement a Sound Money system, and an insistence that we need to END THE EFF’N FED, as the honourable Dr Ron Paul.
You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
How is quoting him [Dr Ron Paul] saying that he never bought into 9/11 conspiracies makes him appear as gutless?
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(But the reality is that anyone with even half a brain – that’s done even a token amount of research into the matter – KNOWS that 19 Arabs with box cutters did NOT hijack four planes on 9/11 and crash them into buildings).
That’s quite a big claim that Ron Paul think that 19 Arabs with box cutters did NOT hijack four planes on 9/11 and crash them into buildings. I haven’t seen any evidence that he doesn’t believe that part of the story. Have you?
I think he’s too busy talking about how the Fed supposedly prints too much money (not sure compared to what; compared to every other central bank in the world that prints money the same way perhaps?) to have the time to look into that kind of details of 9/11 conspiracies.
To End the Chosenness Lie & Put a Wrench in Judaism –
Historical significance[edit]
The Elephantine papyri pre-date all extant manuscripts of the Hebrew Bible, and thus give scholars a very important glimpse at how Judaism was practiced in the fifth century BCE.[1] They show clear evidence of the existence in c. 400 BCE of a polytheistic sect of Jews, who seem to have had no knowledge of a written Torah or the narratives described therein:
You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
How is quoting him [Dr Ron Paul] saying that he never bought into 9/11 conspiracies makes him appear as gutless?
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Ron Paul and the libertarian homosexuals, bisexuality and transsexuals (who are mostly jews and their stooges) have had 24 years since the 9/11 inside job to step up and confront the Juden-fascist fifth column and their Israeli/Big Brother/Deep State and complicit Islamofascist partners in crime responsible for the 9/11 inside job.
He never did and never will.
Just like the Judenrats who saw to the crucifixion of Christ on an inside job, Ron Paul and kosher libertarian queers are part of the Judas Class.
Chris, you make sweeping statements like that above - which YOU ARE UNABLE to back up.
Ron Paul and the libertarian homosexuals, bisexuality and transsexuals (who are mostly jews and their stooges) have had 24 years since the 9/11 inside job to step up ....
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Lastly, I'll end with this.
Summary: Of all the people Chris Moore could be criticising (eg: the endless list of ZOG sock puppets over the last 30 years in U.S politics alone - like Bill and Hillary Clinton, Obama, Biden, Donald Chump, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, John McCain, Dick Cheney, Michael Chertoff, Dov Zakheim, Chuck Schumer, Pelosi, Tom Cotton, Adam Schiff etc), you choose Dr Ron Paul - the 21st century reincarnation of Thomas Jefferson, only even better!!WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU MOORE?
How did you become this eff'd up in the head?
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The reality there is NO ONE in the entire history of the republic that has been even remotely as:1) Economically literate as Dr Ron Paul
If you can't answer that, THEN STFU you eff'n dickhead.
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They can, but Libertarianism does not recognize the “right of conquestâ€.
Sure it does. It recognizes existing lines that are the result of conquest by White men and then demands that their heirs open those lines to the third world.
Of course those third world immigrants are far more likely to act collectively and vote against libertarian policies.
The libertarian cult teaches White men that they can not act collectively but they must bring in people that will. Which means they bring in immigrants that takeover countries founded by White men.
It’s really a genius poison pill for successful White countries and amazingly even with the internet we still have White men following this stupid and destructive cult.
Both libertarianism and liberalism are race denial based ideologies that fall apart like a house of cards in an open forum. I mean a truly open forum like this one that allows race while libertarian/liberal forums normally censor the topic. Even here we can see our resident libertarian “objectivists” turn highly emotional when asked basic questions about immigration or drugs.
Ironically both liberal and libertarian ideologies support vastly different plans in terms of government but agree that the topic of race should be suppressed.
They can as do the resistances enjoy resisting it each step of the way using every arsenal including memories of past to replicate Nakaba and this time’s genocide.
Did n’t bastard like Bernard Lewis, Podohoretz, Kristol Kaplan, Ilea na Roth, Feith ,Abrams, Perle, Friedman, Goldberg, Safir , and Koch complian of arrested development of Arabs ? Did not they flood the mediscape and White House cabinet with obscure irrelevant inappropriate words to give war a chance against the power-worshipoing dictators and fanatics to whom those bastards see their temple of satan is aggressively inching to and itching to develop all kinds of cooperations? It was their mother- temple of satan that taught America how to define and hate then attack dictatorship, fanaticism, militarism and anti LGBT environment with ruthless air atacks and that satan is now embracing the kernel of murder,violence,militarism,killing of truth suppression of news and begging the dictators and fanatics to join it.
How is quoting him [Dr Ron Paul] saying that he never bought into 9/11 conspiracies makes him appear as gutless?
You’re not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
When Ron Paul said that, many would interpret that as equivalent to him saying:
‘I want to have nothing to do with the conspiracy theory nutters’ and that ‘I don’t want to be associated with anyone who claims 9/11 didn’t transpire exactly as the 9/11 Commission and the ZOG controlled MSM reported’.
But the reality is that Dr Ron Paul was FORCED to say that and nip it in the bud.
You see, he was asked these dumb questions consistently during his 2012 Presidential campaign.
The reporters on the Jewish payroll were trying to lure him into a trap.
If Ron Paul said anything other than what he did, then his campaign would’ve been derailed instantly.
From that moment on the Jewish owned media would’ve been running stories with headlines like:
‘Dr Ron Paul agrees with conspiracy kooks – that 9/11 was an inside job involving U.S Gubmint complicity’.
Dr Paul did what he did because he wanted to focus on the issues. ie: America’s murderous foreign policy, fiscal and monetary sanity, Sound Money, an End to the Fed etc.
Instead, if he hadn’t put it to rest by disassociating himself with conspiracy theories, he would’ve spent the rest of his campaign being bombarded with conspiracy questions.
His campaign advisers told him, whenever you get these type of question, just say you don’t buy into it.
(But the reality is that anyone with even half a brain – that’s done even a token amount of research into the matter – KNOWS that 19 Arabs with box cutters did NOT hijack four planes on 9/11 and crash them into buildings).
And Agent 534, by bringing up that interview Dr Paul had with Jake Tapper, you’re not helping Ron Paul’s cause. You’re tarnishing his reputation.
It’s best you STFU.
That's quite a big claim that Ron Paul think that 19 Arabs with box cutters did NOT hijack four planes on 9/11 and crash them into buildings. I haven't seen any evidence that he doesn't believe that part of the story. Have you?I think he's too busy talking about how the Fed supposedly prints too much money (not sure compared to what; compared to every other central bank in the world that prints money the same way perhaps?) to have the time to look into that kind of details of 9/11 conspiracies.
(But the reality is that anyone with even half a brain – that’s done even a token amount of research into the matter – KNOWS that 19 Arabs with box cutters did NOT hijack four planes on 9/11 and crash them into buildings).
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Well, what other motive would you have for bringing up that conversation Ron Paul had with Jake Tapper?
Where did you see me smear him [Dr Ron Paul]?
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Please explain how did you come to the conclusion that I wanted to make it appear as if Dr Ron Paul was too gutless.
How is quoting him saying that he never bought into 9/11 conspiracies makes him appear as gutless?
You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you?
How is quoting him [Dr Ron Paul] saying that he never bought into 9/11 conspiracies makes him appear as gutless?
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They can, but Libertarianism does not recognize the “right of conquest”.
Between 250,000 (Arab League Declaration on the Invasion of Palestine May 15, 1948) and 400,000 (War and Arab displacement in Mandate Palestine, 29 November 1947 to 15 May 1948 (2004, University of London) Palestinian villagers had been dispossessed before the Arab League entered the territory.
I think I will bookmark this essay. It is a handy reference to many of the easiest to debunk tropes in the Zionist’s arsenal.
I got as far as the “unprovoked” Oct 7 attack when I realized the author was either ignorant of the History or obfuscating – we are not dealing with an honest intellectual here.
Which leads to the interesting question. How has he survived in Libertarian circles which, although not my circles, I generally respect for intellectual rigour and honesty?
I have known at least one character who got through life on pomposity alone.
No right to US arms, money or troops. Draft Woody Allen & all your other pervs.
How did ” they ” kill Lynn Margulis, exactly?
Thanks in advance
If all the people in the world enjoy their territory by right of conquest, then why can’t Israelis?
There's no evidence whatsoever that "the side of the Jewish state" was the initial homesteader in Palestine. If you prefer the Hebrew Bible version of history, the Israelites conquered and settled in the land of Canaan only after the exodus from Egypt. If you prefer the archaeological version of history, the very first homesteaders in Palestine were Homo erectus roughly 1.5 million years ago, and in more recent times the Canaanites were the first significant historical civilization in the region. The archaeological record clearly shows that the Jewish people were not the original homesteaders of Palestine. So, Walter Block and his beloved genocidal terrorist entity known as "the Jewish state" can fuck right off with these ridiculous claims of "initial homesteading".Replies: @Fumanchu, @Mactoul
Nino maintains that “Block … betrayed his libertarian commitment to non-aggression…†He is very wide of the mark in this contention of his. I did not at all do any such thing. Rather, I took the position that the NAP and private property rights based upon initial homesteading was all on the side of the Jewish state.
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Homesteading is irrelevant and only a libertarian fad. What governs and has always governed is the right of conquest that erases all previous titles.
Obviously wrong. Refutation would be for Block to point to many gentiles (not under Jewish influence) who support Israel, if they existed.
Nino opines: “Yet beneath this impressive scholarly output lay dormant ethnic loyalties that would eventually surface with explosive consequences.†Here, again, is his claim that it only because I am Jewish that I support Israel. This is refuted by the fact that there are many anti-Zionist Jews.
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Three words: "Consider the source."
Nino maintains that no one who supports Israel’s behavior after that day of infamy, October 7, 2023, can possibly do so on the basis of anything approaching libertarian theory. I do so, only, because I am Jewish, supposedly. If that does not constitute an ad hominem fallacy, there is no such things as an ad hominem fallacy.
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Not really. There's only so much time and attention to discuss anything. Serious intellectuals don't devote much time to debating Bigfoot, or Flat Earth theory, nor do most people care to dignify pedophilia by discussing the pros and cons of child sex abuse. Likewise the merits of bombing civilians. Even math, abstract and apolitical, is subject to the same pressure. Few mathematicians are willing to read a long, difficult proof by an obscure author who may be a crank. That leads into...
Intellectuals, proper intellectuals, do not shut down intellectual opponents. They debate them.
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There are very few people who understand general relativity, a system of 10 equations in 10 unknowns, couched in the language of tensor calculus. Abstract ideals of the scientific method aside, we are left with the choice to take his word on it or disbelieve. Einstein-Hilbert theory is gaining empirical support; Chomsky's similarly impenetrable theory of grammar is slipping into irrelevance. But it got him tenure, didn't it! Then there's Ludwig von Mises, author of the 800 page doorstop, Human Action. It's the argumentum verbosum, which succeeds because it's not worth the trouble to refute.
Le Devoir wrote that ‘the Jew Einstein made us accept on his word his theory of relativity.’
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You have to give him credit for one thing: Block is admirably consistent in his views. Block quotes Golda Meir:
Nino....makes much of the fact that since the owners of a condominium association, private store, private library and other such enterprises are entirely justified in excluding from their premises people they regard as “undesirable,†then the groups and people who have cut all ties with me are also, and equally, entitled to do so.... I do not claim, nor have I ever done so, that these cancellations violate libertarian law.
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Do Jews ever wonder why they're hated? It's for this kind of shit. No self-respecting gentile could not hate them, preening as they blame their victims.Replies: @Vergissmeinnicht, @anon
When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons. Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.
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“Intellectuals, proper intellectuals, do not shut down intellectual opponents. They debate them.”
Suddenly it is reduced to ” Holocaust Denial” and then gored to death figuratively.David Irving would like to have a word .
Juden-fascist Block is just playing sadistic intellectual games and is engaged in libertarian sport and artifice. Juden-fascist Block knows his Juden-fascist tribe has been engaged in mass-theft and mass-murder for centuries, but wants to maintain “plausible” deniablility. Juden-fascist Block knows his larger totalitarian, Marxist-Zionist ideology is bloodstained beyond any possibility for redemption, and he’s shucking, jiving and grifting dumb libertarian goyim, who’ve had their heads up their asses so long, they now resemble jews.
“Dr. Ron was/is a career politician. ”
A straight-out falsehood, probably a lie but disgraceful in any event.
Dr Ron Paul was a career medical doctor.
Dr. Ron Paul was an obstetrician-gynecologist before and during his time in Congress . He practiced medicine in Texas from the 1960s until the 1980s . During his medical career, he helped deliver over four thousand babies .
Greetings Moshe. Why would anyone bother to respond to lies, with intellectual rigour? It is a total waste of time, just like you.
Not many readers on TUR will read this... possibly zero readers will do anything more than skim through for a couple of minutes.
Abstract
... My defense of the only civilized country in the Middle East [the Jewish state], thus, cannot possibly be logically compatible with the principles of libertarianism ... He sees nothing whatsoever of any value in my defense of the Jewish state.
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I stopped reading when I got to the first lie, where he called The Jewish State civilised.
… My defense of the only civilized country in the Middle East [the Jewish state]
The Jewish State was established through force and violence and terrorism. The force, violence and terrorism(oh and lies, I forgot lies) were directed against the inhabitants of Palestine and also the British administrators. There was nothing civilised about the establishment of the Jewish State.
And the terrorism was not directed at non-Jews only. The Jewish terrorist sunk the Patria and killed about 260 people, most of them Jews I think.
Ramses III wrote of these Sea Peoples out of Caanan circa 1,200 BC whom the Egyptians called the Peleset. He’d fought them. They were fierce. The Greeks called them Philistines (of Philistia) and the Old Testament records their 5 city states which were not of Israel or Judea. Gaza & Ashkelon were 2 of these states then. Goliath of Bible infame was a Philistine. The Romans called them Palestinians of Palestine. Gold Meir had a Palestinian passport.
The whole purpose of Israel & Judaism is to create Greater Israel by ethnically cleansing the natives of any type but Ashkenazi Jews. No one should listen to these Jews as lies are how they make war & control the Goyim. This elimination plan is in Plan Dalet & earlier. Ben Gurion wrote of it as did Moshe Sharett. This is to prep for their Moshiach who shall rule all the world from Jerusalem and exterminate at least 2/3rds of remaining Gentiles on earth. (He arrives soon.) Judaism means no other people on earth but some Noahide (Goy) slaves – not much needed now given robots. (Cf. CJ Bjerknes, “Beware the World to Come”)
“How To Respond With Intellectual Rigor”
Write one or more of the following:
1) tl;dr
2) I stopped reading at… [insert word(s)]
3) They lost me at… [insert word(s)]
4) meh
5) yawn
6) zzzzz
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Libertarianism != Classical liberalism.
So what? I didn’t use the term classical liberalism. Why are you trying correct me with a term I didn’t use?
The libertarian party has a defined platform that is ratified annually by thousands of members.
https://lp.org/platform-page/
If you have a problem with something I said about libertarians then quote me directly please.
Ayn Rand was classical liberal, and very unfriendly to libertarian movement.
She was in feud with the libertarian party but the founder David Nolan modeled the party after her beliefs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Nolan_(politician)
Libertarianism is admittedly tied to Jews through Rothbard, but it had visible influence mainly on his historical treatises where he shies from spelling the J word.
It’s not simply tied to the Jews. The majority of the intellectual founders are Jewish atheists. Should we go over them?
Not deterred, the courageous Congressman Dennis Kucinich took up where his friend Wellstone left off, and persisted with the demand that there be a Congressional investigation of 9/11.
ZOG MURDERED WELLSTONE, HIS WIFE & DAUGHTER, and a few of his staff for good measure.
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There are NO* exceptions to that rule.
Everywhere that libertarianism is practised (or something as near as possible to it - like the 130 or so years from the founding of the republic until the creation of the ZOG owned Federal Reserve), it is accompanied by peace and unparalleled prosperity.
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In 2012, when Ron was running for the Republican nomination for Prez, he never gave a speech at the convention. Some ruminations about this matter on the interwebz:
Ron Paul was not allowed to speak at the 2012 Republican National Convention because he had suspended his active campaign and the party leadership did not support his nomination. His supporters had gathered delegates, but the Republican establishment favored Mitt Romney, leading to a lack of opportunity for Paul to address the convention.
From The Atlantic:
Ron Paul was apparently offered a speaking spot at the Republican National Convention, but he turned it down because the Romney campaign would only let him speak under the stipulation that he would finally endorse Mitt.
I thought RP would be able to predict this action compliments of the Stupid Party, yet he just kept on trying.
I guess you are an American since you treat the topic as if everything of significance happened after 1945 (and before 2000).
1) Libertarianism != Classical liberalism.
2) Indeed, libertarianism was founded by an American after 1945, namely Murray Rothbard who merged Austrian school of economics with profound hate towards state as institution.
3) Previous theorists from Austrian school of economics were mostly classical liberals, especially Menger, Boehm-Bawerk, and Mises. They held some government position or were appointed to professorship by the emperor, Menger was tutoring a Habsburg prince at one time. No wonder they found some positive role for the state.
4) Ayn Rand was classical liberal, and very unfriendly to libertarian movement.
5) Classical liberalism is much older than Jewish involvement with it, no need to even discuss it.
6) Libertarianism is admittedly tied to Jews through Rothbard, but it had visible influence mainly on his historical treatises where he shies from spelling the J word. However, there isn’t a causal link between jewishness and libertarianism, one could even say that classical liberalism implies libertarianism because it lacks sound justification and theory of the “night watchman”. It doesn’t require a Jew to find out, see also Gustave de Molinari.
7) Jewish involvement with libertarian theory is mainly consequence of Europe’s collapse after the Second Thirty Years War (1914 – 1945) and selective relocation of Jews to the U.S. (in order to avoid camps). Since then intellectual and political life in the U.S. is tantamount to all-pervasive Jewish presence.
8) Finally, libertarian theory will not flourish in the U.S. as the federation slides towards dictatorship. The same Untergang is going to happen in Europe, however EU will fracture and Europe will get out of American orbit at some point, which will allow dissent and differing views here and there. Thus there is a hope for liberal and libertarian views in Europe and any significant connexion to Jews will be ultimately severed.
The paucity of comments on this thread, and the pomposity and verbosity of the Jew Enemy suggests a great ho-hum toward Jews. This is the end of the line for the Jews. World without Jews amen.
Jews are such habitual liars that they are caught up in such a historical and contemporary web of lies, that even if they wished, they could not disentangle it themselves. They definitely need the help of others:
In his book Altneuland, the founder of the Zionist movement, Theodore Herzl, discussed the economic potential of the Dead Sea as a vital component of his plans for the future Zionist state.8 In 1904, he commissioned a Germangeological party to explore the Dead Sea for its economic potential.9 Two years later, their report was shared with Moses Novomeysky, a Russian mining engineer who was at one time president of the World Zionist Organization in Siberia, and who expressed interest in a concession from the Ottoman Empire as early as 1907.10 Novomeysky later traveled to Palestine in 1911 to further explore the possibility of exploiting the Dead Sea.11 Around the same time, the Ottoman authorities issued concessions to Ottoman subjects for the extraction of bromine that were ultimately annulled.12 Although Novomeysky would not return to Palestine until 1920, the Zionist movement “adopted the Dead Sea Concession as a national project of the Jewish people.
https://www.palestine-studies.org/sites/default/files/attachments/jps-articles/48.full_.pdf
The exploitation of the Dead Sea was worth billions.
Most likely there would have been no Zionist project, at least not in Palestine, if it were not for the rich resources to grab. There would also have been no so called promised land (lie), if the land at the time had not been already cultivated and provided for wealth to grab.
Stated Benjamin Netanyahu, apropos this point, “If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more ‎violence. If the Jews put ‎down their weapons ‎today, there would be no ‎more Israel.â€
Well, if *Netanyahu* says it! I’m not going to waste more brain cells trekking through this long-winded article, but your absurd arguments seem to neglect all of Israel’s past transgressions and initiations of force.
What is so wrong, so non-libertarian, about favoring a country, a people, that was so unjustifiably, and viciously, attacked on October 7, 2023?
We can skip the rest from here… many Jews are such habitual liars that they will remain forever lost in their web of lies. In fact, the only reason for reading such an article is to determine whether new lies and stratagems of lies are invented, and how they mix them with the usual ones.
This is reminiscent of Jeff Deist’s “Blood and Soil” speech in 2017 that elicited kvetching from the usual sources. https://mises.org/mises-wire/new-libertarian
Once again, we the citizenry at large have lost focus on what the real and present danger is.
In this article the reader is exposed to a number of disparate points of view, each have acquired a set of ideals that ushers in fanaticism and extremism into their movements. These are the the true believers, clearly defined by the social scientist and author Eric Hoffer. It’s easy to forget, ignore or by the sin of omission, the powers that manipulate political and religious ideologies to do their bidding. As I have previously commented at UNZ, it is about the bankers of this world who lobby for corporate consolidation, a single digital currency for all merchant transaction, total information awareness or TIA and through these tools dominate the world by returning it to the dark age of fiefdoms.
The most concise summary and explanation of “consolidation-ism†(coined expression by this writer) was presented by Michael Rivero’s video -All wars are Bankers Wars. A forty minute expose linking terrorism, an umbrella term meant to include police actions, mini-wars, color revolutions, assassinations of prominent leaders and so on… These conspiracies can be can traced back to private central bankers/banking cartels. Rivero cites several examples;, Example; In American history, King George the III issued The Currency Act, thus forcing our citizenry to use printed bank notes, at interest and thus created permanent indebtedness, while in circulation. The kings declaration, was at bottom, nothing more than a shake down, a skimming of hard earned American wealth going right into the coffers of Nathan Mayer Rothschild. In today’s rhetoric, “stablecoin†aka buy our debt, so the USA and western Occident nations can continue a fiat currency driven Ponzi scheme thus indirectly contributing to the MIC. Stablecoin will sponsor new mini wars on a global scale to fester and expand violence, in direct opposition to diplomacy coupled with strong government oversight and not a series of corporate hostile “take-overs”…
Aside:Again, Rothschild wanted to bring our fledgling nation into a colonial status but Andrew Jackson (circa 1832) brought this fiendish financial maneuver into the light of day. I paraphrase here from his presidential stump speech…we cannot allow the bankers to speculate on the bread-stuffs of the country. Mr Rothschild responded with threats to force a collapse of our financial system and this threat was followed by an assassination attempt against President Jackson, sound vaguely familiar?
JFK introduced the silver certificate to compete with the fiat one, the Gaddafi Gold Dinar, pegged to gold and not un-collateralized fiat speculation, that would have permitted trade between African countries without total reliance on the USD and further back into history, President Lincoln’s green back. I recommend a visit to http://www.xat.org/xat/usury.html. Arguably, it if fiat money, created out of thin air, that funds warmongering while gold or silver backed currencies would greatly limit global instability and funding for war(s).
Now it becomes crystal clear how national interest(s) have been circumvented by and forfeited by banksters who push economies towards endless conflict. Wars for the sake of global consolidation(s) of a political, corporate and or of a territorial nature. It begins with some provocations(s) and when violence breaks out the momentum is financed by fiat money. Ready cash controlled by, private hands, NOT sovereign governments maintain the war effort. That is why, Nathan Rothschild, was able to make his famous (or infamous) boast, quote: Let me issue and control a nations money and I care not who makes the laws. A statement that includes laws that are international or internal to a specific country.
The capstone over all these movements, religious movements, political and economic philosophies such as evangelical sects, i.e., Marxism, Zionism, Libertarian-ism have vast energies that can be perverted by powerful bankers for purposes that, in the long run, will return the human condition back to the “Dark Ages†aka a collection of fiefdoms or oligarchy’s which does NOT result in multi-polarity. At this moment in history it is important to keep in mind that the definition of “banker or bankster”, now has an equal, close relation…those who create digital block chain ledgers…They form a new class of rich who are few in number with exclusive access to digital dollars. These actors are outside any regulatory agency or government control. For example; POTUS Trump promoted his own crypto-currency the $Trump! Simply shocking on so many levels eh?
Finally, in the words of our most decorated United States Marine, Major general Smedley Darlington Butler, found in his memoirs (1935) quote: “I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American countries….â€
This piece belongs to the Holy Book of pure, unmitigated bullshit.
I was unaware
You still are…
Libertarianism is no more “Jewish†than physics or mathematics are “Jewish,†despite the fact that the Chosen People are disproportionately represented in all three callings.
When people describe libertarianism as Jewish they are talking about the origin.
The founders of the libertarian ideology are majority Jewish while that is not true for physics or math.
That’s a verifiable fact and we can go over it if you would like. Of course this is an uncomfortable subject for libertarians and in their own forums they will ban such talk along with any open discussion of racial differences and the implications for their beliefs.
The main reason the Jewish angle is noted is that it undermines the primary support group for the libertarian belief system which is Christian White men.
White men become more skeptical of libertarian beliefs when they learn that:
1.. The founders were majority Jewish atheist
2. Ayn Rand openly hated Christianity and as a teenager admired a child killer
3. Open borders and 9 month abortions for any reason are part of the libertarian platform
4. Ayn Rand is on record breaking her own beliefs by referring to Arabs as savages and saying that they have no place in civilized Israel. She clearly had no problem with Jews working collectively in Israel and maintaining strict immigration laws. Which would be the complete opposite of the ideology she expects Western (White) men to follow.
When you take that in sum in clearly undermines faith in the open borders and legal drugs cult. White rightly men become skeptical of libertarianism as an anti-left solution. I wish someone had told me the aforementioned before embracing certain “minimal government” beliefs that I now view as complete bullshit.
As with the left the origins and secrets of the ideology were at one time kept from the masses. Well thanks to the internet we can all read about how Rand was against even Christian charity and admired a child killer by the name of William Hickman.
White men should use their own brains and not rely on this kooky cult to do the thinking for them. Just because you oppose the left doesn’t mean you have to sign up for open borders, legal fentanyl, 9 month abortions, and a blind general opposition to the very government system that White men created. Libertarianism not only talks White men into working against each other but completely rejecting systems created by their ancestors that their competitors are allowed to embrace.
Libertarianism is poison for White men that is sold to them as a cure for the left.
This of course turns on Mises' notion of 'polylogism'-- the idea that reality is static, and the same for everyone; therefore the sciences responsible for parsing reality are necessarily independent from any particular human perspective. Both Block and of course Mises held it to be self evident, however we note that this is a relatively new view, historically. And before the twentieth century it was quite common to speak of multiple world-oriented, exclusively racial outlooks, in both behavior and understanding.
Libertarianism is no more “Jewish†than physics or mathematics are “Jewish,†despite the fact that the Chosen People are disproportionately represented in all three callings.
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In a fluid universe you talk about, unhindered by notion of objective reality and requirements of logic, Block’s opinion is right. The number of Jews sharing his views is such that it must be right. Unless Arabs can arm themselves as well as IDF.
What a disgusting POS! I used to read his crap 20 years ago. I was a foolish young man.
Correct. He is no different to any other prominent figure. I fully agree. That's the point I was trying to make.Tell me, Truth Vigilante, what my "smears directed at Dr Ron Paul" were you talking about? Where did you see me smear him?Replies: @Truth Vigilante
So Agent 534, quit with your smears directed at Dr Ron Paul.
He is no different to any other prominent figure and will only go so far on the issue.
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Where did you see me smear him [Dr Ron Paul]?
Well, what other motive would you have for bringing up that conversation Ron Paul had with Jake Tapper?
It was clear to everyone reading it that you wanted to make it appear as if Dr Ron Paul was too gutless to come out publicly and speak the truth on 9/11.
The clumsy, long-winded incoherence of Block’s style suggests that becoming a “famous libertarian intellectual” doesn’t require much wit.
Block’s approval of Jews murdering people to steal their property boils down to: “Briefly, we trace disputed Israeli land claims some 3000 years ago based on the John Lockean libertarian theory of homesteading;[14] the Arabs did indeed occupy these contested territories, but only for a matter of a few centuries.”
Arabic-speaking-and-writing people (“Arabs”) including Muslims, Christians, and Jews have predominated in the Holy Land since Arabic became the main language of scholarship there after Caliph Umar’s appointment as custodian in 638. From 638 to 2025 is more than “a few centuries.”
Using Jewish myths and legends about what may or may not have been going on there 3000 years ago as a justification for genocide is not just criminally insane, it is so over-the-top that calling it that is unfair to criminally insane people
https://www.palestine-studies.org/sites/default/files/attachments/jps-articles/48.full_.pdf
In his book Altneuland, the founder of the Zionist movement, Theodore Herzl, discussed the economic potential of the Dead Sea as a vital component of his plans for the future Zionist state.8 In 1904, he commissioned a Germangeological party to explore the Dead Sea for its economic potential.9 Two years later, their report was shared with Moses Novomeysky, a Russian mining engineer who was at one time president of the World Zionist Organization in Siberia, and who expressed interest in a concession from the Ottoman Empire as early as 1907.10 Novomeysky later traveled to Palestine in 1911 to further explore the possibility of exploiting the Dead Sea.11 Around the same time, the Ottoman authorities issued concessions to Ottoman subjects for the extraction of bromine that were ultimately annulled.12 Although Novomeysky would not return to Palestine until 1920, the Zionist movement “adopted the Dead Sea Concession as a national project of the Jewish people.
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Libertarianism!?
I was unaware this childish nonsense is still a thing. Libertarianism, Communism, Anarchism – the three big schools of teenage political thought.
You still are...
I was unaware
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The Ten Stages of Genocide, By Dr. Gregory H. Stanton, President, Genocide Watch, Copyright 1996 + a Block article for each one:
 I. Classification
https://thejewishlibertarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/israel-rothbard-defense.pdfÂ
​ii. Symbolization
https://spectator.org/launching-missiles/
iii. Discrimination
​iv. Dehumanization
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-moral-duty-to-destroy-hamas-ba626a41
​v. Organization
https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions/invade-rafah-now/
​vi. Polarization
https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions/open-letter-to-the-children-of-gaza/
​vii. Preparation
 ​viii. Persecution
https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions/israels-opponents-will-always-find-a-way-to-blame-it/
​​ix. Extermination
https://isgap.org/flashpoint/pacifism-is-not-peaceful-only-justice-is/
​x. Denial
https://spectator.org/its-not-fair-disproportionate-deaths-middle-east/
It would have been impossible to publish Mr. Block’s Rejoinder to Nino at a more opportune moment, not just in the midst of the Gaza genocide but in the context of Mr. Unz’ Six Unknown Books and Mr. Alexis’ From Darwin to Deontology articles.
I’ve read only the first half of Rejoinder to Nino, but will return to it later in the day. It interests me in several respects—its use of language, its revelation of jewishness, and in the wider context of theories of government.
Have you read Wikipedia’s strange entry for Mr. Block? It’s unlike any other I’ve read on that site. E. Michael Jones has recounted how he has attempted multiple times to correct his Wiki entry, but that every time his corrections have been expunged within hours. What is the history of Mr. Block’s entry?
Now the ‘language’ of Rejoinder to Nino.
The piece was obviously written in haste. There are incomplete/illogical sentences. There are grammatically incorrect uses of case. (Ironically Mr. Nino’s sentences display similar faults.) More importantly Mr. Block uses language as what it definitely is not, an ‘absolute’ medium of communication.
Language is impressionistic, inexact. It exists as a social convention. It operates within limited, consensual spheres.
To be specific, Mr. Block sees ‘libertarianism’ is an ideology—a creed, a religion, if you will. He’s mistaken. Libertarianism is like any other ‘theory of government.’ It’s an amorphous body of certain attitudes and beliefs, not necessarily in complete harmony with each other, but tending in the same direction.
Now, ‘revelation of jewishness.’
Jews are spewers of words. You can’t shut them up. Think Ben Shapiro. He is a living trope of that jewish characteristic. So is Mr. Block. Is it in the book of Ecclesiastes that we read, “The more words, the more foolishness”?
Finally, ‘theories of government.’
In his Republic Plato said the first and last word about government:
Who will watch the watchers?
One final remark. Revilo Oliver was a ‘strident’ atheist. Mr. Block describes himself, amusingly, as “a devout atheist.”
I would ask this. Why did/do Oliver and Block speak about government? Why do they speak about anything at all? Why do they care? What difference does it make?
When a person passes beyond the satisfaction of bodily needs, he is immediately confronted with the question, god or no god.
In a vast, godless universe, what is the point of logic, of speech? When all is ‘sound and fury, signifying nothing,’ is not silence the better course?
November 07, 2025 Turkish court issues arrest warrant for Netanyahu over Gaza genocide  
A portrait of Israeli PM Netanyahu hangs on the sidewalk during a protest in front of the Israeli Defense Ministry in Tel Aviv, March 29, 2025.
Pure evil.
Those interested in the view of a Jewish libertarian guy who was not pure evil, see Rothbard:
https://www.rothbard.it/articles/war-guilt.pdf
A lot can be said for or against libertarianism. The idea that libertarianism countenances the murder of people in order to steal their land is a self-evident absurdity.
Not deterred, the courageous Congressman Dennis Kucinich took up where his friend Wellstone left off, and persisted with the demand that there be a Congressional investigation of 9/11.
ZOG MURDERED WELLSTONE, HIS WIFE & DAUGHTER, and a few of his staff for good measure.
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There are NO* exceptions to that rule.
Everywhere that libertarianism is practised (or something as near as possible to it - like the 130 or so years from the founding of the republic until the creation of the ZOG owned Federal Reserve), it is accompanied by peace and unparalleled prosperity.
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So Agent 534, quit with your smears directed at Dr Ron Paul.
He is no different to any other prominent figure and will only go so far on the issue.
Correct. He is no different to any other prominent figure. I fully agree. That’s the point I was trying to make.
Tell me, Truth Vigilante, what my “smears directed at Dr Ron Paul” were you talking about? Where did you see me smear him?
Well, what other motive would you have for bringing up that conversation Ron Paul had with Jake Tapper?
Where did you see me smear him [Dr Ron Paul]?
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Was this a joke or a serious argument? Libertarianism in principle supports the claims of Ashkenazi Jews to the land of Palenstine because the Arabs have been occupying that land "only for a matter of a few centuries" but some extremely distant ancestors of Ashkenazi Jews lived there before that (after the exodus I suppose)?So, Libertarianism in principle supports basically almost all real-world territorial disputes because usually both sides of the dispute have some kind of claim to the disputed territory if we allow claims based on history from centuries and millennia before present. For example, Libertarianism would support in principle claims by Italians to all the land held by the Roman empire in Europe, Asia and Africa at some point, correct? And claims by Mongolians to all the land held by the Mongol empire at some point, correct?Replies: @Mot
Briefly, we trace disputed Israeli land claims some 3000 years ago based on the John Lockean libertarian theory of homesteading; the Arabs did indeed occupy these contested territories, but only for a matter of a few centuries. Thus, they were trespassers. There is no logical incompatibility between libertarianism and support of Israeli behavior based upon proper ownership of the terrain under dispute.
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This is where I take to task those who claim this or that “belongs” to Mexicans etc. My answer is simple… Just how far back must one go in order to right all of the wrongs? The garden of eden?
This of course turns on Mises' notion of 'polylogism'-- the idea that reality is static, and the same for everyone; therefore the sciences responsible for parsing reality are necessarily independent from any particular human perspective. Both Block and of course Mises held it to be self evident, however we note that this is a relatively new view, historically. And before the twentieth century it was quite common to speak of multiple world-oriented, exclusively racial outlooks, in both behavior and understanding.
Libertarianism is no more “Jewish†than physics or mathematics are “Jewish,†despite the fact that the Chosen People are disproportionately represented in all three callings.
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You misrepresent what Einstein was and what he accomplished and by doing so you missed the real problem with Physics. Einstein was supported by a group of Physicists and the group supported his ideas so I’m not sure plagiarism is a correct claim against him. The real problem is that Einstein and his group changed Physics from a science supported by experiment and observation of the real world to one that depended entirely on abstract mathematics. Math does not tell the truth when the basis for the calculations is wrong. Einstein’s equations about relativity use gravity as the main factor that causes all the phenomena in the universe. Physicists still do not know what gravity is or what causes it. They almost universally reject electrical attraction and repulsion as a significant force. What made Einstein a great physicist was that him and his friends convinced everyone to go along with his theories without any proof other than they made the math look good. If I count ten oranges and have you count them as well to show that my math is correct and you agree that the number is ten, then I have fooled you if we are counting apples. The newest space telescopes are finding evidence that the current theories of an expanding universe, red shift to determine the age of stars, the method of star formation etc. are all wrong. We may never know the truth. The universe is much too large for us to see it all.
Rather, he wishes to tear down the case in behalf of Israel, and defend that of Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and their paymaster and leader, Iran..
Let’s get one thing straight here folks
The Mullahs of Iran have been in bed with the Israelis since the “color revolution” that replaced the terminal cancer ridden Shaw in the 70s
And that the whole Americans being held hostage for 444 days until the moment Ronald Raygun took office was scripted Kabuki Theater so as to get Americans to hate Iran (even if they couldn’t find it on a map)
From that point on according to the Jewish Press Iran became the maestro of the anti Israel conflict.
Right off the bat, that doesn’t make any sense
It is the Arabs who are suffering under the Israeli boot, not the Persians
Does any thoughtful person here really think the Persian elite give a shit about the Arabs?
The Iranian elite are perfectly happy that Israel has its boot on the neck of Pan Arabism for the time being
The Mullahs have been in power for decades (like Putin, Xi and until recently Assad)
That is a sure indication that they are totally corrupt and are solely interested in maintaining their elite status in Iran for themselves and their families
It is Israel that keeps them in power by assassinating those Iranians who have come along who could lead the people against the traitorous Mullahs.
Oh, and one other little thing
Why never any blood for blood when Israel kills important Iranians?
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JAKE TAPPER: Moving on, one of your former close aides recently said, you “engaged in conspiracy theories, including perhaps the 9/11 attacks, were coordinated with the CIA and that the Bush administration might have known about the attacks ahead of time.†Have you ever expressed—
RON PAUL: Wait, wait, wait. Don’t go any further than that. That’s complete nonsense.
TAPPER: Not true?
PAUL: Yeah. I never bought into that stuff. Never talked about that.
TAPPER: OK.
PAUL: Conspiracy? Of Bush knowing about this? No. Come on. Come on. Let’s be reasonable. That’s just off the wall.
SOURCE: This Week ABC January 1, 2012 8:00am-9:00am PST �
Unlike you Agent 534, I have watched nearly all of the 2000+ episodes of The Ron Paul Liberty Report over more than a decade.
As a consequence I have heard Ron Paul say several times stuff like:
‘Oh that Building 7 on 9/11 is quite an anomaly, isn’t it?’ or ‘we know Lee Harvey Oswald didn’t murder JFK and that the CIA played a pivotal role’.
And, as I’ve mentioned on many occasions in UR over the years:
Dr Ron Paul, like Tucker Carlson, Julian Assange, Glenn Greenwald, George Galloway and like ANY prominent individual with a worldwide following, will NEVER come right out and say who perpetrated 9/11, or who really orchestrated the demise of JFK/RFK/JFK Jr, or who perpetrated the Covid Psyop and Mass Cull of Humanity through administration of the toxic clot shots etc.
Because, if they ever did so, they would end up dead in a ditch by the side of the road (or someone in their family would suffer the same fate).
FFS, Julian Assange released info that was far tamer than revealing who did 9/11 (Wikileaks released the Collateral Murder video), and he was crucified/incarcerated and tortured (23 hours per day in solitary confinement for years in Belmarsh prison in Gross Britain).
Sure, you and I can come right out and say whatever we want.
Because we have NO SUBSTANTIVE FOLLOWING.
And therefore whatever we have to say doesn’t reach a critical threshold of the ignorant masses.
So ZOG pays no heed to what we’re saying.
Now, there was a particular U.S Senator, by the name of Paul Wellstone some years ago, and he was was asking for a Congressional investigation into 9/11. He was also agitating strongly against the proposed invasion of Iraq. So in October 2002 this occurs:
ZOG MURDERED WELLSTONE, HIS WIFE & DAUGHTER, and a few of his staff for good measure.
Not deterred, the courageous Congressman Dennis Kucinich took up where his friend Wellstone left off, and persisted with the demand that there be a Congressional investigation of 9/11.
Well, click on the link below to a comment of mine to see how that worked out for his family:
https://www.unz.com/article/the-public-execution-of-charlie-kirk/#comment-7366923
That’s right UR readers.
The younger brother and kid sister of Kucinich WERE MURDERED BY ZOG.
(And whilst I can’t say for sure that Thomas Massie’s wife didn’t die a ‘natural death’, there appears to be evidence of Mossad involvement).
So Agent 534, quit with your smears directed at Dr Ron Paul.
He is no different to any other prominent figure and will only go so far on the issue.
Not because he fears for his own life – he’s NINETY EFF’N YEARS OLD FFS.
No, Dr Paul well knows the M.O of Malignant International Jewry.
And the latter have no qualms about killing your whole eff’n family if need be.
Moreover, after Dr Ron Paul retired from politics a dozen or more years ago, people around him likely said:
‘Ron, we know you want to come out on 9/11 or the JFK coup d’etat etc.
But you’re no good to the world if you’re dead. We need you to spread the message of liberty.
We need you to educate the masses about the mischief making of the ZOG owned Federal Reserve and for the need to have Small Gubmint and Sound Money (ie: a return to the Gold Standard).
To that end a GREAT DEAL has been achieved since Dr Paul retired.
He has made countless keynote addresses and speeches around the country.
He has established The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity.
In short, he has educated millions more around the world to the fact that:
Everywhere that libertarianism is practised (or something as near as possible to it – like the 130 or so years from the founding of the republic until the creation of the ZOG owned Federal Reserve), it is accompanied by peace and unparalleled prosperity.
There are NO* exceptions to that rule.
(*Australia and Canada during this same period had Minimal Gubmint, Low or negligible taxes and little or no Gubmint micromanagement/meddling in the lives of the citizenry.
ie: core requirements of a libertarian society – and both nations recorded growth and bountiful prosperity like America).
In fact, for a period of some years in the late 19th/early 20th century, Australia had the highest GDP per capita on the planet – yes, even higher than the U.S.
Correct. He is no different to any other prominent figure. I fully agree. That's the point I was trying to make.Tell me, Truth Vigilante, what my "smears directed at Dr Ron Paul" were you talking about? Where did you see me smear him?Replies: @Truth Vigilante
So Agent 534, quit with your smears directed at Dr Ron Paul.
He is no different to any other prominent figure and will only go so far on the issue.
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Replies: @not hoytmonger, @anonymous, @Truth Vigilante
JAKE TAPPER: Moving on, one of your former close aides recently said, you “engaged in conspiracy theories, including perhaps the 9/11 attacks, were coordinated with the CIA and that the Bush administration might have known about the attacks ahead of time.†Have you ever expressed—
RON PAUL: Wait, wait, wait. Don’t go any further than that. That’s complete nonsense.
TAPPER: Not true?
PAUL: Yeah. I never bought into that stuff. Never talked about that.
TAPPER: OK.
PAUL: Conspiracy? Of Bush knowing about this? No. Come on. Come on. Let’s be reasonable. That’s just off the wall.
SOURCE: This Week ABC January 1, 2012 8:00am-9:00am PST �
Ron Paul, 2008 campaign. He shut down anyone who brought up 9/11.
I was extremely active in Austin TX, which had the largest “Meetup Group” (the Paul campaign embraced this awful platform). We were often the hub of national-scale organizing, like the “Tea Party” which broke fundraising records
https://www.politico.com/story/2007/12/ron-paul-becomes-6-million-man-007421
No mention of Dec 16th being the anniversary of the 18th c Boston event. Hilariously, this was co-opted by the Koch Machine to create the eponymous “Tea Party Movement” months later.
I digress.
All the organizers in Austin – I mean, ALL – were “truthers”. They ignored the Paul gate-keeping around 9/11 via the rationale “well he’s got to appeal to the mainstream blah blah”.
After the campaign shut down, having shot itself in the face countless times, effectively strangling the infant movement it had spawned in the crib, DOCTOR Paul came out to Austin to personally thank the organizers. They had a little pow wow at (now defunct) Brave New Books.
And Paul, right there, pandered to the group with some line about “yeah, funny those towers coming down in their own footprint.”
Note that later, when Debra Medina, a big GOP Paul Supporter, had her gubernatorial campaign destroyed, it was specifically because she was ambushed over the 9/11 “question” on the Glenn Beck show.
Not many readers on TUR will read this... possibly zero readers will do anything more than skim through for a couple of minutes.
Abstract
... My defense of the only civilized country in the Middle East [the Jewish state], thus, cannot possibly be logically compatible with the principles of libertarianism ... He sees nothing whatsoever of any value in my defense of the Jewish state.
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He’s writing it as an academic Political Science piece; trying to make an axiomatic case for why Zionism is exceptionally and should be incorporated/amended into Libertarian dogma.
Squaring this circle in different formats still won’t work or polish this turd into golden sheen.
Poor rhetoric considering the medium is the message…
>civilized
This is a lynchpin of his whole sophistic pilpul argumentation.
You & your tribe get to pick who is civilized and who is Amalekim.
The Communion of Libertarians believes you are uncivilized and barbaric (which is an impressive achievement coming from that collective of libertine degenerates).
NAP was violated on 1948.
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JAKE TAPPER: Moving on, one of your former close aides recently said, you “engaged in conspiracy theories, including perhaps the 9/11 attacks, were coordinated with the CIA and that the Bush administration might have known about the attacks ahead of time.†Have you ever expressed—
RON PAUL: Wait, wait, wait. Don’t go any further than that. That’s complete nonsense.
TAPPER: Not true?
PAUL: Yeah. I never bought into that stuff. Never talked about that.
TAPPER: OK.
PAUL: Conspiracy? Of Bush knowing about this? No. Come on. Come on. Let’s be reasonable. That’s just off the wall.
SOURCE: This Week ABC January 1, 2012 8:00am-9:00am PST �
Dr. Ron was/is a career politician. He’s not in the same league as Rothbard or Hoppe. The Ron Paul Institute rarely published anything critical of Israel… until recently.
Daniel McAdams is Ron Paul’s right hand man. He is critical of Israel and often appeared on videos with a photo of GTR5 hanging behind him.
It’s for that reason I still visit the Institute’s web page.
A straight-out falsehood, probably a lie but disgraceful in any event.
"Dr. Ron was/is a career politician. "
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I appreciate that Mr. Unz publishes opposing views so that readers can get the full story and make up our own minds.
This so-called free market principle proposed by the libertarians comes down to an atomized market society whose individuals can be preyed upon piecemeal by the highly aggressive behavior of the Jews
Junkyard dog makes it clear with that statement why the word ‘junk’ is part of his pseudonym.
Now, let’s analyse the world we live in today, and we’ll soon notice that:
1) At no point in recorded history have Malignant International Jewry been more powerful, and society has been more atomised (as Jews successfully implement their divide and conquer strategies and set Red state against Blue state, or christian against Muslim – with the intention that we fight amongst each other, rather than stand in unison to oppose the common enemy).
2) And of course our common enemy is Malignant International Jewry – whose power has multiplied with the growth of Big Gubmint.
You see UR readers, the dog from the junkyard is TOO STUPID to see that there is a direct correlation between the abandonment of Capitalism (the U.S is today a Socialist shit-hole – at least in the Big End of town – where Crony Corporatism rules), and the rise of Bloated Big Gubmint.
It is All Powerful Authoritarian Big Gubmint that has introduced mandates/legislation/a maze of regulatory impediments/tariffs/quotas and outright prohibitions etc, that PREVENTS NEW ENTRANTS FROM TAKING AWAY MARKET SHARE from the established ZOG oligarchs.
Summary: We all agree that America today is a failed state.
Well Junk Doggie, guess what?
There has been NO LIBERTARIANISM PRACTISED of substance IN AMERICA FOR THE LAST HUNDRED YEARS OR SO.
So you can’t blame libertarianism for what’s transpired.
The ONLY solution is a radical defunding of Big Gubmint.
With only a small fraction of the taxpayers money, by definition ZOG controlled Gubmint will only be able to get up to so much mischief (this especially applies to its murderous foreign policy).
Coupled to that, what Gubmint there is will be highly DECENTRALISED.
In other words, local communities/states will take over most of those functions presently presided over by the Federal authorities (and they will do them at a fraction of the present cost).
In that way funding will be much better tracked and monitored by the local communities themselves.
So quit with your B.S Junk Doggie. You have no eff’n idea what policies create sustainable wealth and prosperity. Your head is full of the ZOG propaganda that’s been drummed into your head by malevolent Jews and ne’er-do-well Socialists.
Learn some real economics and get back to me in a few years.
You can start here: Mises.org
When one thinks of libertarianism, one thinks of the poster boy for that movement over the last few decades.
Libertarianism gatekeeping against anti-Semitism, that ship has sailed long ago.
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Dr Ron Paul has been smeared from pillar to post by all manner of malignant Jews for years.
Summary: Only a complete moron would suggest that Ron Paul libertarianism (the dominant faction of the movement in the world for decades), is acting in the capacity of gatekeepers for anti-Semitism.
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I wonder what does Dr Ron Paul have to say on 9/11. Let’s hear it.
JAKE TAPPER: Moving on, one of your former close aides recently said, you “engaged in conspiracy theories, including perhaps the 9/11 attacks, were coordinated with the CIA and that the Bush administration might have known about the attacks ahead of time.†Have you ever expressed—
RON PAUL: Wait, wait, wait. Don’t go any further than that. That’s complete nonsense.
TAPPER: Not true?
PAUL: Yeah. I never bought into that stuff. Never talked about that.
TAPPER: OK.
PAUL: Conspiracy? Of Bush knowing about this? No. Come on. Come on. Let’s be reasonable. That’s just off the wall.
Not deterred, the courageous Congressman Dennis Kucinich took up where his friend Wellstone left off, and persisted with the demand that there be a Congressional investigation of 9/11.
ZOG MURDERED WELLSTONE, HIS WIFE & DAUGHTER, and a few of his staff for good measure.
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There are NO* exceptions to that rule.
Everywhere that libertarianism is practised (or something as near as possible to it - like the 130 or so years from the founding of the republic until the creation of the ZOG owned Federal Reserve), it is accompanied by peace and unparalleled prosperity.
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Not many readers on TUR will read this... possibly zero readers will do anything more than skim through for a couple of minutes.
Abstract
... My defense of the only civilized country in the Middle East [the Jewish state], thus, cannot possibly be logically compatible with the principles of libertarianism ... He sees nothing whatsoever of any value in my defense of the Jewish state.
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Tldr is Walter Block’s middle name, and why I don’t miss him at LRC.
There's no evidence whatsoever that "the side of the Jewish state" was the initial homesteader in Palestine. If you prefer the Hebrew Bible version of history, the Israelites conquered and settled in the land of Canaan only after the exodus from Egypt. If you prefer the archaeological version of history, the very first homesteaders in Palestine were Homo erectus roughly 1.5 million years ago, and in more recent times the Canaanites were the first significant historical civilization in the region. The archaeological record clearly shows that the Jewish people were not the original homesteaders of Palestine. So, Walter Block and his beloved genocidal terrorist entity known as "the Jewish state" can fuck right off with these ridiculous claims of "initial homesteading".Replies: @Fumanchu, @Mactoul
Nino maintains that “Block … betrayed his libertarian commitment to non-aggression…†He is very wide of the mark in this contention of his. I did not at all do any such thing. Rather, I took the position that the NAP and private property rights based upon initial homesteading was all on the side of the Jewish state.
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It’s especially rich since Block is an atheist. Why would he then accept the Biblical account?
If memory serves me right, Walter Block is the guy who argued that it should be legal to torture and abuse animals because they’re property, and … well, you know Joe libertarians feel about private property rights.
On the other hand, he may think it’s wrong for the government (a/k/a Anthony Fauci) to do so. (Gives government powers it was never intended to possess, or whatever.)
No doubt Dr. Block has some well-formulated Talmudic “Ask the Rebbe†defense for his position on this matter.
Not many readers on TUR will read this... possibly zero readers will do anything more than skim through for a couple of minutes.
Abstract
... My defense of the only civilized country in the Middle East [the Jewish state], thus, cannot possibly be logically compatible with the principles of libertarianism ... He sees nothing whatsoever of any value in my defense of the Jewish state.
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The economically ignorant Lacking-Daisies writes:
Libertarianism gatekeeping against anti-Semitism, that ship has sailed long ago.
When one thinks of libertarianism, one thinks of the poster boy for that movement over the last few decades.
Of course I refer to Dr Ron Paul.
He is the ONLY Presidential candidate EVER (to the best of my recollection), that openly campaigned on a platform that, if elected, he would REDUCE U.S TAXPAYER LARGESSE FOR THE APARTHEID ISRAELI STATE TO ZERO.
(That’s right – no more billions flowing there every year).
And needless to say, as Prez he wouldn’t have sent them a single dime to subsidise the mass slaughter of the Palestinians that they’re presently perpetrating (unlike the ZOG sock puppet Donald J Chump).
In addition, Dr Ron Paul IS the ‘End the Fed’ movement.
Absent Dr Paul’s input over the last 50 years, perhaps not one in a hundred Americans would be aware of the ZOG owned Fed’s input in creating chronic inflation and greatly exacerbating the economic cycles that lead to deeper recessions and Depressions.
With the Fed abolished (and thus Malignant International Jewry would be deprived of control of the money supply), the latter would soon enough wither on the vine.
Make no mistake: There is NO PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN THE POST JFK ERA THAT ZOG HAVE FEARED MORE THAN Dr RON PAUL.
Summary: Only a complete moron would suggest that Ron Paul libertarianism (the dominant faction of the movement in the world for decades), is acting in the capacity of gatekeepers for anti-Semitism.
Dr Ron Paul has been smeared from pillar to post by all manner of malignant Jews for years.
But you wouldn’t know that Mr/Ms Lacking-Daisies – because you’re an ignorant twit.
You’re nothing more than a defender of the existing Uniparty (seeing as the Dems and GOP are just slightly different factions of the same ZOG controlled party).
Yes, Lacking Daisies, I know you to be that.
And the reason I know that is that you display the standard M.O.
ie: you smear libertarianism, but you NEVER offer an alternative, or nominate a ‘shining light’ who is leading your movement.
Because you have NOTHING. You have no alternative suggestion.
Other than Dr Ron Paul, we have the likes of Lew Rockwell, Tom Woods PhD, Congressman Thomas Massie and Ron’s son Rand.
C’mon, show some guts and tell us who you’d nominate to lead America out of the abyss and what political movement they represent.
Listen carefully UR readers, you’ll only hear crickets in return.
Lacking Daisies is intellectually and morally bankrupt.
He/she is a nothing person – just a waste of space.
Replies: @not hoytmonger, @anonymous, @Truth Vigilante
JAKE TAPPER: Moving on, one of your former close aides recently said, you “engaged in conspiracy theories, including perhaps the 9/11 attacks, were coordinated with the CIA and that the Bush administration might have known about the attacks ahead of time.†Have you ever expressed—
RON PAUL: Wait, wait, wait. Don’t go any further than that. That’s complete nonsense.
TAPPER: Not true?
PAUL: Yeah. I never bought into that stuff. Never talked about that.
TAPPER: OK.
PAUL: Conspiracy? Of Bush knowing about this? No. Come on. Come on. Let’s be reasonable. That’s just off the wall.
SOURCE: This Week ABC January 1, 2012 8:00am-9:00am PST �
Many, many weaselly words to confirm the author is a bigot and a proponent of genocide. Vile.
José Alberto Nino. And I think that this article is a pathetic attempt at refuting this:
https://www.unz.com/article/how-rabid-zionism-split-the-libertarian-world/
I agree that Libertarianism is a extremely Jewish operation (notwithstanding that Ron Paul is a good and decent gentile.) So it’s no wonder that the author would support Israel.
Other than the first paragraph, I did not read any of Walter Block’s 10,600 words and his attempt to defend the indefensible.
You see, I’ve heard his arguments in the two debates he had on The Tom Woods Show with:
1) Saifedean Ammous (a Palestinian)
2) Jacob Hornberger,
and the two aforementioned WIPED THE FLOOR with Block’s sorry arse.
Secondly, I notice that Block wrote this towards the end of his long winded article:
The list below is that of individuals (some of whom would not have attached the word ‘Libertarian’ to themselves – because the term had not yet been invented in their era), but who nevertheless espoused philosophies and foreign (and economic) policy beliefs that aligned word perfect with today’s Ron Paul Libertarianism and could thus be labelled the ‘Founding Fathers of Libertarianism’:
Adam Smith, John Locke, Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, Frédéric Bastiat, Lysander Spooner, Henry David Thoreau, Alexis de Tocqueville, Carl Menger, Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk, Friedrich von Wieser, Joseph Schumpeter, Friedrich Hayek, Hans-Hermann Hoppe. Lew Rockwell and countless others.
As you can see, there is NOT a single Jew among them.
And, magnanimously of him, Block at least includes a footnote to concede that this blockquoted section was lifted WORD FOR WORD from a UR thread.
What Block does not mention is that it was plagiarised from a comment made by a UR participant known to many of you here.
You can click on the link below and see for yourselves just who that person is:
https://www.unz.com/article/how-rabid-zionism-split-the-libertarian-world/#comment-7349440
Summary: As you can see UR readers, Block refuses to name the individual whom he plagiarised for those words.
I think that’s poor form.
Then again, if you read the comment, accompanied by the harsh (and fully justified) words directed at the ‘Block-head’, you’ll see why he chose not to promote his pseudonym.
Anyway Mr Block, I’m an honest-to-goodness genuine Ron Paul/Rothbardian libertarian.
And I can fully understand why you’ve been ostracised by all genuine libertarians and shunned by civilised society.
You are a disgrace mate.
Until such time as you show some heartfelt contrition and remorse for defending the actions of the Apartheid Israeli state, I never want to see or hear from you again.
(BTW, on another front, it’s good to see that prominent Jewish intellectuals – albeit malignant Jews – are reading this webzine).
Ron Unz, you should be pleased with that. It just goes to show that the Apartheid-Israel-Defending Jewish establishment are running scared – VERY SCARED indeed, by what they’re seeing expressed in the pages of UR by us goyim (who are fed up to the back teeth with Jewish malfeasance).
Walter Block, I would like you to respond to my question below.
How much is enough?
How much sh*t should the goyim continue to endure?
After all, Malignant International Jewry have orchestrated/promoted:
1) The conditions/manoeuvred western politicians and heads of state in a manner that made WWI & II inevitable
2) Murdered JFK/RFK/JFK Jr/Charlie Kirk/Lynn Margulis (to name just a few)
3) 9/11 and the Ukraine proxy war
4) The Holohoax fable
5) The Anthropogenic Global Warming hoax, the Covid Psyop and much, MUCH more.
Walter Block, do you have the guts to admit that Malignant International Jewry (aka ZOG) have had, at an absolute minimum, significant involvement/input in all of these egregious crimes?
Israel isn’t the only—but is the most—civilized entity in the Middle East, once you understand the brutal origins of civilization.
“Civilization originates in conquest abroad, and repression at home.”
~Stanley Diamond (In Search of the Primitive: A Critique of Civilization, p. 1)
Bernie the Pathetic!
LOL, I didn’t even read the AI summary. When I saw your response to the first post I saw why I did the intuitively right thing. Thanks.
BTW, who the fuk is Nino?
Not many readers on TUR will read this... possibly zero readers will do anything more than skim through for a couple of minutes.
Abstract
... My defense of the only civilized country in the Middle East [the Jewish state], thus, cannot possibly be logically compatible with the principles of libertarianism ... He sees nothing whatsoever of any value in my defense of the Jewish state.
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LOL, I just criticized TuckerCarlson, on the accompanying Unz article, for having too long interviews on his internet show. Carlson thinks he’s David Suskind, a TV personality from the 1960’s-70’s who had a local TV show in the NYC area and did in-depth interviews/talks that ran over time. ‘Tucker, this isn’t 1971, it’s not even 2014.’
BTW, who the fuk is Nino?
Evidently the other commenters were wrong of interest in this, for every kind of Jew including the Christian is prevalent on this site, which is admittedly Jewish itself despite its editor’s good character!
“True Christianity” you speak of is also a Jewish religion, hence the term Judeo-Christianity and its inherent Judeophilia. It is the most criminal in all of history, per Karlheinz Deschner, and you should stop being daft and just become a henotheistic Stoic and excise all Jewishness from your beliefs—or do you really think only magic Jews could invent the idea of God?
Everything good about Christianity is not from it, but pillaged from white European culture and philosophy that people were unwilling to give up.
A better and less Jewish wordpress page:
https://westsdarkesthour.com/christian-problem/
Christianity’s Criminal History Vol I: https://westsdarkesthour.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Krim-I.pdf
Christianity’s Criminal History Vol II: https://westsdarkesthour.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Krimi-II.pdf
Alain de Benoist: ‘Christianity: The communism of antiquity’: https://westsdarkesthour.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Alain-essay.pdf
Hans Günther: ‘The dissolution of Germanic racial care by medieval Christianity’: https://westsdarkesthour.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/The-dissolution.pdf
Revilo Oliver: ‘Christianity: A religion for sheep’ https://westsdarkesthour.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Olivers_Christianity.pdf
As Herr Nietzsche put it in The Antichrist:
I condemn Christianity, I indict the Christian church on the most terrible charges an accuser has ever had in his mouth. I consider it the greatest corruption conceivable, it had the will to the last possible corruption. The Christian church has not left anything untouched by its corruption, it has made an un-value out of every value, a lie out of every truth, a malice of the soul out of every piece of integrity. And people still dare to tell me about its ‘humanitarian’ blessings! The idea of abolishing any distress ran counter to the church’s deepest sense of its own advantage, – it lived on distress, it created distress in order to eternalize itself . . . The worm of sin, for instance: the church was the first to enrich humanity with this bit of distress! – The ‘equality of souls before God’, this falseness, this pretext for the rancour of everything low-minded, this explosive concept which finally became a revolution, a modern idea, and the principle of the decline of the whole social order – is Christian dynamite . . . The ‘humanitarian’ blessings of Christianity! To breed a self-contradiction out of humanitas, an art of self-violation, a will to lie at any cost, a disgust, a hatred of all good and honest instincts! – Those would be the blessings of Christianity as far as I am concerned! – Parasitism as the church’s only practice; drinking all the blood, all the love, all the hope out of life with its ideals of anaemia and ‘sanctity’; the beyond as the will to negate every reality; the cross as the mark of the most subterranean conspiracy that ever existed, – against health, beauty, against anything well constituted, against courage, spirit, goodness of the soul, against life itself . . .
I want to write this eternal indictment of Christianity on every wall, wherever there are walls, – I have letters that can make even blind people see . . . I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great innermost corruption, the one great instinct of revenge that does not consider any method to be poisonous, secret, subterranean, petty enough, – I call it the one immortal blot on humanity . . .
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But abortion affected many more human lives than were impacted by all the wars participated in by Israel
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Zionism is a Jewish supremacist belief that’s from the pit of hell, incompatible with humanity and true christianity – hence their hatred of others and their love of censorship, destruction, lies, and fabrications (aka cancel culture).
http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/judaica/zionism/
Zionism has destroyed the US…
http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/is-america-cursed/
…and will take the empire down with it.
http://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/08/05/israel-the-scourge-of-empires/
I condemn Christianity, I indict the Christian church on the most terrible charges an accuser has ever had in his mouth. I consider it the greatest corruption conceivable, it had the will to the last possible corruption. The Christian church has not left anything untouched by its corruption, it has made an un-value out of every value, a lie out of every truth, a malice of the soul out of every piece of integrity. And people still dare to tell me about its 'humanitarian' blessings! The idea of abolishing any distress ran counter to the church's deepest sense of its own advantage, - it lived on distress, it created distress in order to eternalize itself . . . The worm of sin, for instance: the church was the first to enrich humanity with this bit of distress! - The 'equality of souls before God', this falseness, this pretext for the rancour of everything low-minded, this explosive concept which finally became a revolution, a modern idea, and the principle of the decline of the whole social order - is Christian dynamite . . . The 'humanitarian' blessings of Christianity! To breed a self-contradiction out of humanitas, an art of self-violation, a will to lie at any cost, a disgust, a hatred of all good and honest instincts! - Those would be the blessings of Christianity as far as I am concerned! - Parasitism as the church's only practice; drinking all the blood, all the love, all the hope out of life with its ideals of anaemia and 'sanctity'; the beyond as the will to negate every reality; the cross as the mark of the most subterranean conspiracy that ever existed, - against health, beauty, against anything well constituted, against courage, spirit, goodness of the soul, against life itself . . .
I want to write this eternal indictment of Christianity on every wall, wherever there are walls, - I have letters that can make even blind people see . . . I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great innermost corruption, the one great instinct of revenge that does not consider any method to be poisonous, secret, subterranean, petty enough, - I call it the one immortal blot on humanity . . .
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Israel is the only democracy in Mideast that is racist, militaristic, arrogant, lying, apartheid-practicing, bullying, America-controlling, America-mooching, hypocritical, US-citizen-murdering/US-sailor-killing, Holocaust-grifting, international-law-snubbing, land-stealing/water-robbing, spying-on-America traitorous, nuclear-armed, theocratic, always-pretending-to-be-victims, Nazi-Germany-emulating Fourth Reich, filled with nauseating internationalist Noses.
It will soon disappear…like the USSR.
It’s right there in References… Do Ctrl+F for:
Nino, Jose Alberto. 2025. “How Rabid Zionism Split the Libertarian World.†October 17
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2025/10/17/how-rabid-zionism-split-the-libertarian-world/;
Reprinted as “How Rabid Zionism Split the Libertarian World, by Jose Alberto Nino – The Unz Review.†October 17;
This article is a great illustration of how being a follower of an ideology warps your mind and can make you do and support abhorrent and illogical things as you go deepeer and deeper down the rabbit hole trying to justify it.
Other examples include leftists supporting the destruction of ancient forests because it increases biofulel production, easy-going liberal parents acting like authoritarian sexual abusers enforcing transsexuality on their children, and conservatives supporting immigration because it’s good for the stock market.
Nino maintains that “Block … betrayed his libertarian commitment to non-aggression…†He is very wide of the mark in this contention of his. I did not at all do any such thing. Rather, I took the position that the NAP and private property rights based upon initial homesteading was all on the side of the Jewish state.
There’s no evidence whatsoever that “the side of the Jewish state” was the initial homesteader in Palestine. If you prefer the Hebrew Bible version of history, the Israelites conquered and settled in the land of Canaan only after the exodus from Egypt. If you prefer the archaeological version of history, the very first homesteaders in Palestine were Homo erectus roughly 1.5 million years ago, and in more recent times the Canaanites were the first significant historical civilization in the region. The archaeological record clearly shows that the Jewish people were not the original homesteaders of Palestine. So, Walter Block and his beloved genocidal terrorist entity known as “the Jewish state” can fuck right off with these ridiculous claims of “initial homesteading”.
Libertarians have difficulty accounting for national/tribal territories as they have no concept for territory as distinct from private property.
This is the fatal weakness which the libertarians do not even appreciate and this causes endless feuds among them.
Territories are not stolen, but conquered. Private property exists within the national territory and is defined by the prevailing legal system. When the territory changes hands, the legal system is liable to be changed as well.
Briefly, we trace disputed Israeli land claims some 3000 years ago based on the John Lockean libertarian theory of homesteading; the Arabs did indeed occupy these contested territories, but only for a matter of a few centuries. Thus, they were trespassers. There is no logical incompatibility between libertarianism and support of Israeli behavior based upon proper ownership of the terrain under dispute.
Was this a joke or a serious argument? Libertarianism in principle supports the claims of Ashkenazi Jews to the land of Palenstine because the Arabs have been occupying that land “only for a matter of a few centuries” but some extremely distant ancestors of Ashkenazi Jews lived there before that (after the exodus I suppose)?
So, Libertarianism in principle supports basically almost all real-world territorial disputes because usually both sides of the dispute have some kind of claim to the disputed territory if we allow claims based on history from centuries and millennia before present. For example, Libertarianism would support in principle claims by Italians to all the land held by the Roman empire in Europe, Asia and Africa at some point, correct? And claims by Mongolians to all the land held by the Mongol empire at some point, correct?
This is unbelievable. Block has no sense of proportion. This is one of those moments when you think that the author needs a life.
While Dr Block writes about Rothbard supporting defensive wars, it’s beyond ridiculous to compare the American revolutionaries and southern confederate both facing a larger state army to Gaza’s ragtag Hamas group facing the organized IDF which has world support. (PLUS ron Paul has pointed out that Hamas was crated by Mossad to split al fatah anyway)
I fact checked my own comment that Rand Paul advocates for the economic interests of non-voters and independent voters. Apparently, I was wrong. Rand Paul must work for the Bank of London, his voting record is the same as Mitt Romney’s.
Rand voted to prolong the filibuster.
Rand voted against raising SS minimum age to 70.
Rand voted against suspending salaries for congress people during the shutdown
Rand voted against the BB Bill
But he votes for unimportant social issues like opposing the kill shot.
Many examples follow.In the case of Walter Block, the man is plainly a flaming Zionist. In a court of law, he would have to recuse himself because he cannot be impartial.I gave up on Human Action on page 2, when v.Mises said slavery was incompatible with capitalism. I made it through 800 pages of Sowell's Knowledge and Decisions and it was vapid. Enormous books are burdensome to read, so the opposition will not read them. Ayn Rand fans used to argue that until you'd read Atlas Shrugged (1000 pages), you couldn't possibly understand their views. Proof by intimidation is a real thing. So is cognitive dissonance--after you've wasted so much time on a book, it's hard to admit that it was of no value.FWIW: my answer to the Randians was: "Read 5000 pages of Kant, then explain why he's wrong." Now Unz carries Alexis... I guess that serves me right.Replies: @Vergissmeinnicht
Each group nourishes its own pride and vanity, boasts itself superior, exalts its own divinities, and looks with contempt on outsiders.
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[Ayn Rand]
Now, I’ve never read L. Ron Hubbard – but, funnily, he seems rather similar to Ayn Rand; See:
1) He founded a religious cult; She, a cult of personality.
2) Hubbard wasn’t a bad sci-fi writer at all, although nor was he good (obviously) – he was ‘average’. Like Rand as a novelist.
Think of Rand’s protagonists: ultra-rational, always calm – and so on. That’s like super-powers in a comic book,¹ it’s for kids (not for a mature audience), because it is idealised or caricatured.
Truly ‘great’ writers are, instead, realistic about their characters, even their protagonists – their flaws abound.
Plus: Rand’s protagonists’ opponents’ ideologies (say, Socialism) aren’t taken to the maximum regarding the best defences one can make for them.
A truly ‘great’ writer (say, a Dostoevsky) writing a novel about Capitalism vs. Socialism would stretch his mental faculties to the limit thinking about all counter-arguments and counter-examples that can be made! Heck, in fact, he’d change his mind all the time writing such novel because he doesn’t know where it’s going – unlike with Rand (or, with Batman) i.e. we know how it’s gonna end from the get-go.
1. Not saying there is something ‘wrong’ with comic books (or books targeted to non-adults: children, teens) per se; Heck, who doesn’t enjoy Batman, after all? But, point is, such doesn’t merit to be referred as an achievement of Humanity at Literature.
[Thomas Sowell]
Have a peek:
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/where-is-mr-sowells-nobel-economics-committee-3a0cfaf6
That would be like giving the Physics Nobel Prize to Carl Sagan: Like Sagan, Sowell is, mostly, a populariser.
(Now, don’t laugh: I’d rather give the Nobel in Economics to Walter Block² – at least, Block is bold and daring.)
2. I mean, if the choice is: Sowell or Block.
In-Group Favouritism is the default. Every race practises it. Jews, not an exception.
[…] Here, again, is his claim that it only because I am Jewish that I support Israel. This is refuted by the fact that there are many anti-Zionist Jews.
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I don't think the onus is on 'Random Jew' to prove he is not an ethnocentric Jew.
Three words: “Consider the source.â€
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Funnily, there's a "Lachrymose Conception of Austrian Economics History" too. Austrian economists will cry, "The REAL reason our theories aren't highly-regarded in Academia is because we oppose the establishmentarian powers-that-be!"
Human Action […] succeeds because it’s not worth the trouble to refute.
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Hi V.m.n., always nice to get a reply from a thinking man,
Ethnocentrism is the common condition of mankind. A passage that will bear repeating is Folkways by William Graham Sumner, 1906. Section 15
https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/24253/pg24253-images.html#Page_13
Each group nourishes its own pride and vanity, boasts itself superior, exalts its own divinities, and looks with contempt on outsiders.
Many examples follow.
In the case of Walter Block, the man is plainly a flaming Zionist. In a court of law, he would have to recuse himself because he cannot be impartial.
I gave up on Human Action on page 2, when v.Mises said slavery was incompatible with capitalism. I made it through 800 pages of Sowell’s Knowledge and Decisions and it was vapid. Enormous books are burdensome to read, so the opposition will not read them. Ayn Rand fans used to argue that until you’d read Atlas Shrugged (1000 pages), you couldn’t possibly understand their views. Proof by intimidation is a real thing. So is cognitive dissonance–after you’ve wasted so much time on a book, it’s hard to admit that it was of no value.
FWIW: my answer to the Randians was: “Read 5000 pages of Kant, then explain why he’s wrong.” Now Unz carries Alexis… I guess that serves me right.
My finger slipped. It was supposed to say “Thanks”.
Thank you for the link.
Walter Block, the most tedious egghead from the faux- libertarian stable of theorists now has a 10k+ word rumination on UR. What IS this world coming to? Block dithered off in a huff from LRC over the inclusion of “anti-semitic” articles in the daily lineup of articles, to the great relief of some regular readers there.
Block took his snore inducing act as libertarian gatekeeper so seriously that I really came to despise him. One of my best memories of Block was during Ron Paul’s alternate convention when Block took to the stage and started one of his tirades on his pride and joy, the “Evictionist Argument” in defense of abortion. Paul’s followers booed him off the stage. The idiotic notion that a woman has the right to evict her developing baby by the same reasoning used to defend a landlord’s right to evict a renter from his property was obviously absurd to the young supporters of Dr. Paul. Those supporters didn’t realize that they owed Block awe and deference for being a fixture in the long dead libertarian movement.
I was really amused at the way Block peered around, realizing that his little theory wasn’t accepted as brilliant by virtue of being one of his utterances.
Obviously wrong. Refutation would be for Block to point to many gentiles (not under Jewish influence) who support Israel, if they existed.
Nino opines: “Yet beneath this impressive scholarly output lay dormant ethnic loyalties that would eventually surface with explosive consequences.†Here, again, is his claim that it only because I am Jewish that I support Israel. This is refuted by the fact that there are many anti-Zionist Jews.
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Three words: "Consider the source."
Nino maintains that no one who supports Israel’s behavior after that day of infamy, October 7, 2023, can possibly do so on the basis of anything approaching libertarian theory. I do so, only, because I am Jewish, supposedly. If that does not constitute an ad hominem fallacy, there is no such things as an ad hominem fallacy.
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Not really. There's only so much time and attention to discuss anything. Serious intellectuals don't devote much time to debating Bigfoot, or Flat Earth theory, nor do most people care to dignify pedophilia by discussing the pros and cons of child sex abuse. Likewise the merits of bombing civilians. Even math, abstract and apolitical, is subject to the same pressure. Few mathematicians are willing to read a long, difficult proof by an obscure author who may be a crank. That leads into...
Intellectuals, proper intellectuals, do not shut down intellectual opponents. They debate them.
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There are very few people who understand general relativity, a system of 10 equations in 10 unknowns, couched in the language of tensor calculus. Abstract ideals of the scientific method aside, we are left with the choice to take his word on it or disbelieve. Einstein-Hilbert theory is gaining empirical support; Chomsky's similarly impenetrable theory of grammar is slipping into irrelevance. But it got him tenure, didn't it! Then there's Ludwig von Mises, author of the 800 page doorstop, Human Action. It's the argumentum verbosum, which succeeds because it's not worth the trouble to refute.
Le Devoir wrote that ‘the Jew Einstein made us accept on his word his theory of relativity.’
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You have to give him credit for one thing: Block is admirably consistent in his views. Block quotes Golda Meir:
Nino....makes much of the fact that since the owners of a condominium association, private store, private library and other such enterprises are entirely justified in excluding from their premises people they regard as “undesirable,†then the groups and people who have cut all ties with me are also, and equally, entitled to do so.... I do not claim, nor have I ever done so, that these cancellations violate libertarian law.
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Do Jews ever wonder why they're hated? It's for this kind of shit. No self-respecting gentile could not hate them, preening as they blame their victims.Replies: @Vergissmeinnicht, @anon
When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons. Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.
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[…] Here, again, is his claim that it only because I am Jewish that I support Israel. This is refuted by the fact that there are many anti-Zionist Jews.
In-Group Favouritism is the default. Every race practises it. Jews, not an exception.
To boot, Jews are more ethnocentric, on average, than (at least) ‘Hajnal Line’ Whites.
In any case, if one accepts Evolution, the mild statement “Some Jews are ethnocentric.” has to be deemed ‘self-evident’.
Three words: “Consider the source.â€
I don’t think the onus is on ‘Random Jew’ to prove he is not an ethnocentric Jew.
Consider Kevin MacDonald’s framework: He never said, “These Anthropology/Psychology academics I cited are Jews – that’s ALL one needs to know.”
No, MacDonald researched evidence that the academics highlighted have affinity towards ‘Jewish interests’, and what-not.
I understand that’s impractical. After all, if someone has ‘ulterior motives’, he is not revealing it.
However, ‘mind-reading’ cannot be considered ‘intellectual propriety’…
Human Action […] succeeds because it’s not worth the trouble to refute.
Funnily, there’s a “Lachrymose Conception of Austrian Economics History” too. Austrian economists will cry, “The REAL reason our theories aren’t highly-regarded in Academia is because we oppose the establishmentarian powers-that-be!”
Frankly, I doubt it. Especially given that Austrian economists (post-Mises, at least) rely on BS like Praxeology…
Many examples follow.In the case of Walter Block, the man is plainly a flaming Zionist. In a court of law, he would have to recuse himself because he cannot be impartial.I gave up on Human Action on page 2, when v.Mises said slavery was incompatible with capitalism. I made it through 800 pages of Sowell's Knowledge and Decisions and it was vapid. Enormous books are burdensome to read, so the opposition will not read them. Ayn Rand fans used to argue that until you'd read Atlas Shrugged (1000 pages), you couldn't possibly understand their views. Proof by intimidation is a real thing. So is cognitive dissonance--after you've wasted so much time on a book, it's hard to admit that it was of no value.FWIW: my answer to the Randians was: "Read 5000 pages of Kant, then explain why he's wrong." Now Unz carries Alexis... I guess that serves me right.Replies: @Vergissmeinnicht
Each group nourishes its own pride and vanity, boasts itself superior, exalts its own divinities, and looks with contempt on outsiders.
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Nino opines: “Yet beneath this impressive scholarly output lay dormant ethnic loyalties that would eventually surface with explosive consequences.†Here, again, is his claim that it only because I am Jewish that I support Israel. This is refuted by the fact that there are many anti-Zionist Jews.
Obviously wrong. Refutation would be for Block to point to many gentiles (not under Jewish influence) who support Israel, if they existed.
Nino maintains that no one who supports Israel’s behavior after that day of infamy, October 7, 2023, can possibly do so on the basis of anything approaching libertarian theory. I do so, only, because I am Jewish, supposedly. If that does not constitute an ad hominem fallacy, there is no such things as an ad hominem fallacy.
Three words: “Consider the source.”
Intellectuals, proper intellectuals, do not shut down intellectual opponents. They debate them.
Not really. There’s only so much time and attention to discuss anything. Serious intellectuals don’t devote much time to debating Bigfoot, or Flat Earth theory, nor do most people care to dignify pedophilia by discussing the pros and cons of child sex abuse. Likewise the merits of bombing civilians.
Even math, abstract and apolitical, is subject to the same pressure. Few mathematicians are willing to read a long, difficult proof by an obscure author who may be a crank. That leads into…
Le Devoir wrote that ‘the Jew Einstein made us accept on his word his theory of relativity.’
There are very few people who understand general relativity, a system of 10 equations in 10 unknowns, couched in the language of tensor calculus. Abstract ideals of the scientific method aside, we are left with the choice to take his word on it or disbelieve. Einstein-Hilbert theory is gaining empirical support; Chomsky’s similarly impenetrable theory of grammar is slipping into irrelevance. But it got him tenure, didn’t it! Then there’s Ludwig von Mises, author of the 800 page doorstop, Human Action. It’s the argumentum verbosum, which succeeds because it’s not worth the trouble to refute.
Nino….makes much of the fact that since the owners of a condominium association, private store, private library and other such enterprises are entirely justified in excluding from their premises people they regard as “undesirable,†then the groups and people who have cut all ties with me are also, and equally, entitled to do so…. I do not claim, nor have I ever done so, that these cancellations violate libertarian law.
You have to give him credit for one thing: Block is admirably consistent in his views.
Block quotes Golda Meir:
When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons. Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.
Do Jews ever wonder why they’re hated? It’s for this kind of shit. No self-respecting gentile could not hate them, preening as they blame their victims.
In-Group Favouritism is the default. Every race practises it. Jews, not an exception.
[…] Here, again, is his claim that it only because I am Jewish that I support Israel. This is refuted by the fact that there are many anti-Zionist Jews.
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I don't think the onus is on 'Random Jew' to prove he is not an ethnocentric Jew.
Three words: “Consider the source.â€
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Funnily, there's a "Lachrymose Conception of Austrian Economics History" too. Austrian economists will cry, "The REAL reason our theories aren't highly-regarded in Academia is because we oppose the establishmentarian powers-that-be!"
Human Action […] succeeds because it’s not worth the trouble to refute.
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Well this article convinced me.
Unfortunately for the author, it convinced me that the founding of Israel was a disastrous mistake, and that Jews generally have far too much influence over the west.
Heckuva job, Blockie !
Jews oppose conventional thinking in order to solidify and calcify conventional thinking as a permanent two-part dichotomy, thereby ostracizing any possible third way.
Quite fancy shell-game: pretend like you’re antinomian when your antinomianism is just nomianism in mufti.
“Fourth, while the East Germans who wished to move to West Germany were innocent of any crimes, the same cannot be said for the Gazans. Their celebrations, dancing in the streets, on October 8, 2023 demonstrates that virtually all of them were aiding and abetting the events of the previous day. Moreover, dozens of them engaging in suicide bombings in Israeli schools, buses, shopping malls, restaurants, etc. It is difficult on libertarian self defense grounds, to blame the Israelis for limiting the freedom of such persons.”
1- Were the Jews celebrating when Rothchilds was promised of Palestine as a future ” Home” of Jews?
2- Were they celebrating when France and Britain divided that part of the world and America sided with Britain ?
3 Were they celebrating the day begore Oct7 and the day before and all the days before that?
Those animals are complicit in occupation, ,extortion,blockade. Oct 7killed a few animals.
VI. Ethnic cleansing
At this point in his essay Nino cites Al Jazeera (2017) to the effect that the Israelis have engaged in “ethnic cleansing†and were responsive for the fact that almost a million “Palestinian refugees had … been forcefully expelled from their country.†The very opposite is the case.”
The reason these people became refugees stemmed not from Jewish expulsion of them. Rather, this came about due to the fact that the five invading armies in 1948, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Egypt and Saudi Arabia, ordered them to leave. Why? These civilians would just get in the way. If the Palestinians remained, the invaders would have had to protect them, which would reduce the slaughter of the Jews, their prime goal.[22]”
1- You are a thoroughbred liar. May be it is Talmudic.
Events after bribed UN agreed for partition ( UNGA, not valid, not legal ,not enforceable,never passed by UNSC) followed this way
(a) Arabs in the part of land alotted to Zionist started protesting . Stern and Hagana provoked them further . This led to more protests .Israel started expelling them .
(b) Newly independent Arab states – Egypt ,Syria,Jordan started getting flooded with refugees . To stem the tide ,Arab armies5 of them entered the land alotted to Palestine. 5 armies never went into Israel proper.
GET THAT INTO HOUR HEAD .
(c) 5 Armies totalled to 29,800 people ,majority were farmers called to join army with limited trainings.
(d) Israel fought and army veterans( WW2) and militiaand Jewis soldiers enlisted in other countries’ armies joined Israeli army .Their number totalled 80,000 to 120,000.
GET THAT INTO YOUR HEAD.
(d) Seeing the opportunity the way a dog sees in a bone , Israel attacked Arab armies using planes and jets and grabbed more lands from Palestininan segment and from adjoining Arab states.
GET THAT INTO YOUR HEAD.
Not many readers on TUR will read this... possibly zero readers will do anything more than skim through for a couple of minutes.
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... My defense of the only civilized country in the Middle East [the Jewish state], thus, cannot possibly be logically compatible with the principles of libertarianism ... He sees nothing whatsoever of any value in my defense of the Jewish state.
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I stopped reading when I saw the jew name
What?
Rothbard’s alleged phobia did not stop him from being married to a Christian for decades, then making common cause with them toward the end of his life. In his last days he was writing articles for Chronicles, for Pete’s sake.
I assume when he was younger he made a few reckless statements about all religions being collectivist. — a common trap libertarians often fall into.
. . . this free-market philosophy which is grounded upon the non-aggression principle (NAP) . . .
I stopped right there. This so-called free market principle proposed by the libertarians comes down to an atomized market society whose individuals can be preyed upon piecemeal by the highly aggressive behavior of the Jews whose collective behavior is anything but atomized.
Libertarianism’s two pillars or working American’s subjugation, von Mises and Rothbard, were venomously Christophobic, as their writings make clear and which I’ve provided extensive links to here before.
Under Jewish libertarianism the Jews control it all because they’re organized while society is atomized, and under Jewish communism the Jews control it all because the government owns it all and the Jews own the government, as they do in the US.
Junkyard dog makes it clear with that statement why the word 'junk' is part of his pseudonym.
This so-called free market principle proposed by the libertarians comes down to an atomized market society whose individuals can be preyed upon piecemeal by the highly aggressive behavior of the Jews
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So you can't blame libertarianism for what's transpired.
Summary: We all agree that America today is a failed state.
Well Junk Doggie, guess what?
There has been NO LIBERTARIANISM PRACTISED of substance IN AMERICA FOR THE LAST HUNDRED YEARS OR SO.
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Block is a very cheeky academic.
I agree with his wildly controversial views on “private slavery” and, as well, “mandatory vaccination”, for example – but, not with his views on “animal torture” and “circumcision”, amongst others.
(I enjoyed reading his opinion on whether space aliens (if they exist at all) have “rights”…)
Block is a Randian,
I think it was David Gorgon who spotted out the fallacy in Ayn Rand’s argument that Palestinians should be opposed because they’re “savages” whilst Israel is a First-World country.
(Obviously, Palestinians deserve a Homeland because they’re a distinct people – their intelligence and civilisational accomplishments are irrelevant.)
I should have added to my prior comment that Ron & Rand Paul are the champions of the folk libertarians I described. I didn’t want to mislead by insinuating or inferring there are no libertarian leaders for such grass roots libertarians. Imagine how much political power the libertarian party could gain if it were to embrace, say, all those involved in alternative medicine or self-care medicine, after the COVID hoax?
One of the very ominous threats to a libertarian lifestyle described in my prior comment is digital money. Everyone will end up surveilled by the state through their commercial transactions and there will be no escape, unless you want to live in a primitive condition. It is ironical that Peter Thiel has embraced “libertarianism” as an ideology – meaning as a cover for the social control interests of the oligarchs. Any libertarian political parties, movements or think tanks will effectually become feckless once technocratic society becomes so invasive.
The only alternative to digital money system I am aware of is that each state can establish their own state banks and state currency (like North Dakota). I believe this should be near the top of any platform for libertarianism at this time.
Libertarianism is no more “Jewish†than physics or mathematics are “Jewish,†despite the fact that the Chosen People are disproportionately represented in all three callings.
This of course turns on Mises’ notion of ‘polylogism’– the idea that reality is static, and the same for everyone; therefore the sciences responsible for parsing reality are necessarily independent from any particular human perspective. Both Block and of course Mises held it to be self evident, however we note that this is a relatively new view, historically. And before the twentieth century it was quite common to speak of multiple world-oriented, exclusively racial outlooks, in both behavior and understanding.
Consider both mathematics and geometry. The question is not whether 1+1 always equals 2, but rather the form of a culture’s understanding and use of, in this case, mathematical and geometrical abstractions. We must also include architecture, the plastic arts, plus musical form in this question.
A counter to Block’s argument can be found in Spengler’s Decline of the West. Compare Vol 1, Form and Actuality, specifically chapters 2-4 (regarding mathematic and geometry). And chapters 5-8 (regarding spatial comprehension via the various arts).
From another angle, but actually within a similar ground, we can cite Walter Ong’s Orality and Literacy, with subsequent follow up work by McLuhan (especially Gutenberg Galaxy and Space in Poetry and Painting). The idea here is that a culture or people’s comprehension, understanding and subsequent use of how they view the world (both psychologically and physically) has changed over the course of time, and in any case were/are never static in the sense Block supposes.
But there are other primary sources, such as Eric Havelock– outlining the fundamental and incommensurate shift in outlook within Classical Greek intellectual understanding, between the 4th through 6th century, BC.
More common (i.e., more ‘popular’) expositions of a culture’s differing perception of spatial form can be found in, for instance, Vol 5 (covering the Italian Renaissance) of Durant’s History, especially his in-depth overview of the learned science of perspective, representing a radical perceptual shift.
Finally, the discipline of economics cannot be divorced from normative values. That is, how people might spend their money within a particular economic paradigm is one thing, but the important thing is how their actions ought to be viewed within a moral and ethical ground? This question, the most important question of economics, is of course relevant to the Jewish angle– an angle it seems Block wants to forget.
As an addendum we consider Einstein. Block mentions him multiple times. Yet we note that questions of theoretical physics remain speculative, often up for grabs. But that is not the important thing about him, considered strictly as a Jewish theoretician. The question many ask is not whether his notions of relativity are the case, but rather whether Einstein plagiarized ideas from others, taking credit for what was essentially not his, when he ought to have been debited. Then, the related question of how the Jewish press covers for him. And finally, against Mises’ polylogism, to what degree was Einstein’s intellectual theft a mostly Jewish trait?
The above argument between intellectual factions in libertarianism, is, however a character trait of Hebrew culture, for good or bad. It ignores the true libertarians: those who don’t vote or are undeclared independents, who live on the margins of bureaucratic society, home school their children, don’t participate state religion whether that be Israel or US version, strive for self sufficiency, embrace marriage-family-children rather than degeneracy (not producing the next generation), care for their elderly parents, etc. The price of liberty is alienation.