Well this should make you happy-

I thought about it and decided you are right after all. I am man enough to admit I was wrong and you’re have a perception of reality that, although certainly unique, really cannot be matched. I bow to your analytical skills.

What persuaded me was your continuing passionate defense of Pornhub stats. No-one can argue with your FACTS.

Let’s face it, in this cruel, cold, calculating world of ours if we can’t trust perverted, money-grubbing, bracket, bracket, wink, wink, bracket, bracket, pornographers to provide us with neutral, dispassionate sociological data to change society who can we trust? In retrospect it was so blindingly obvious.

Hey everybody listen up!: Pornhub, de Sade and Freud says we are all perverts who secretly want to be defiled and they for some reason have to be obeyed without question so let’s all flush our society down the toilet.

You certainly can’t argue with that so thank you for setting me straight.

Again, thank you.

“hey those three degrees do come in handy sometimes”

If you have three degrees (and I don’t doubt it) it merely proves that the Western education system is in terminal decline.

“Pornhub manipulates these stats”

An assertion with no evidence. I’m sure you would claim that porn videos with hundreds of millions of views on various sites depicting the defilement of Aryan women had “botted viewcounts”. Anything in order to stick your head in the sand.

Your reply is thoughtless, dishonest garbage.

That particular porn is mostly consumed by Black Men.

One danger of Pornography in general in the electronic age is that it gives virtual access to white women by unwanted darkies.

All pornography today is in essence cuckoldry.

That’s why pornhub is owned by a Rabbi.

Get off it-there was always a dark underneath to private human thought but society recognized it needed to be kept in control.

Look leave sex aside, let’s create an hypothetical situation:

Even you should agree that, for instance, there is a certain, at any one point in time, very small percentage of the population that has psychopathic tendencies that causes them to be attracted to serial murders or serial murderers (Ayn Rand is an example of this-she thought a certain psychopathic child-murderer was awesome). This being so, a small subset of these will, at any point in time, commit actual serial murders.

Does that mean Mankind as a whole is inherently a serial murderer?

More importantly-does that mean Mankind as a whole would be better off acknowledging that serial murdering is a natural state of Mankind which we deny because of societal repressions? Well no, the vast majority are not serial murderers, let alone attracted to serial murders or serial murderers. It is an artificial construct to think otherwise.

BUT (and there is always a but):

People like de Sade and Freud, if they were attracted to serial murdering instead of sex, would argue yes and being somewhat intelligent would write gigantic pseudoscientific tomes advocating humans are inherent serial murderers and society needs to come to terms that we all are serial murderers and people who deny this are mentally unhealthy and repressed.

The confusion would start because yes indeed, a small portion of the population is indeed deviant, but de Sade and Freud (due to their attraction to deviancy and being deviants themselves) would elevate this small portion into an overriding explanation of humans as a whole while demoting the vast majority of the population into the cesspool of deviancy.

Let’s continue-some intellectuals reading those tomes and wanting to be seen as avant-garde (never ever underestimate the capacity of intellectuals to delude themselves so as to be seen as ground-breaking and boundary-slashing) would then argue that serial murders are an inherent condition of humanity and that society has to acknowledge this fact for the overall benefit of society. What the magical overall benefit would be is left unstated.

Going further-given this situation, certain groups would realize that unbalancing a society in such a way can have benefits in enabling control of society for their benefit.

So in this hypothetical case, we would know end up having a society where intellectuals pursue a deluded belief, force this deluded belief onto everyone and call anyone who disagrees with their delusions as mental repressed individuals. This would benefit certain people in gaining control of society. A clear example of this was the Freud cult of times best left behind and our current child trans-gender mania where people who disagree are mentally unhealthy and need to be legally persecuted.

A better example of this is you yourself. You called Robert Stark’s coprophiliac article “thought-provoking” and the comments “pathetic”. Hey, you called me “simple-minded” whereas I am probably more intelligent that you. I certainly am better educated than you having three degrees from three different Universities. Can you say that about yourself?

Hmmm do you see how you were manipulated into thinking yourself superior?…and OVER WHAT? It’s because I think coprophiliacs are deviant and shouldn’t be encouraged and I think de Sade was a perv and Freud was a pseudoscientist. You got outraged and got your panties in a bunch because someone thinks coprophilia is abnormal, de Sade was insane and Freud was…

Where did these beliefs of yours come from? Are you beginning to see how societal manipulation works now? Think about it. Do you feel soooo suuuuppperior now?

Coprophilia is probably the sickest deviancy there is. De Sade was locked up because his society realized that his writings could push borderliners over the edge. Freud was indeed a pseudoscientist.

The difference between now and then (de Sade’s 18th Century) is now these sexual perversions are publicly fed, left, right and center because intellectuals and certain ethnic groups ((wink, wink)) decided for us that this is good for us.

Better yet, they didn’t really have our best intentions in mind but saw that they could manipulate us better that way. Now we have people arguing that coprophilia is a natural state and people who disagree are deviants. It’s indeed a wonderful world now. We all are much better for it (heavy sarcasm).

This discussion has all the elements of a major flame war so let’s just agree to disagree because any further discussion will bring about the the nuances of eating sh.. and how our moms were in the sack and so even you have to agree that it would be kind of stupid to continue.

I nevertheless want to bring up a final point that bothers me-
“If you acquaint yourself with Pornhub’s search statistics…”

Why would anyone cite Pornhub’s stats?!-Pornhub manipulates these stats because they have a financial and a social-control agenda. They inherently LIE!

You just cited stats that are meant to manipulate you (and manipulate me and everyone).

Do you see now how social control works now? (hey those three degrees do come in handy sometimes).

“Actually De Sade was mentally ill”

A common refrain from the simple-minded. You may as well have said “He’s possessed by the Devil!”

If you acquaint yourself with Pornhub’s search statistics you’ll find that we are living in Freud and de Sade’s world, no doubt for the worse.

You don’t need to do that though; your own search history should suffice!

Unfortunately the “far-right” is full of dishonest perverts who blame the Jews every time they grab their genitals. Denial is a barrier to progress.

Actually De Sade was mentally ill, you see 18th Century psychiatrists who were living in a rationalistic, advanced society read his writing and discussed between themselves (quite correctly as befitting the advanced 18th Century) that; “this is obviously a head case, he needs to be locked up before his ideas spread to others who are borderline crazy”.

It was in the unsophisticated, barbaric, primitive 20th Century (don’t confuse technological advancement with civilizational progression) his writings were discovered by intellectuals and thought profound and illuminating-it was an unsophisticated, barbaric and primitive age so not surprisingly De Sade took root.

Also Freud was a fraud and a pseudoscientist. Everyone knows that except you. Again the cultural unsophistication of the 20th Century ensured that his warped, unscientific and idiotic (really- your most profound sexual desire is to sleep with your Mom-do you think that’s true? Did you ever sleep with your Mom or even had sex fantasies about her?) ideas spread among intellectuals (commoners being more practical than intellectuals never really cared much what Freud scribbled).

Anyone who’s first thought is “Freud and de Sade were rightâ€� is obviously wrong. This does not really need be argued for, it just is, just as the sky is blue except when it is red in the morning and evening.

If this article isn’t a parody that just didn’t turn out very well then this guy is a pervert who gets his jollies discussing his perversions. Nothing unique in that, history seen De Sade, Masoch, Kinsey, Phillip Roth etc. all of whom loved that people will be reading them. So although this behavior is common who cares?

Seriously, Ron Unz should consider banning this individual from making further contributions to his forum since his arguments (actually internal sex fantasies) serve no purpose in contributing to an analysis of contemporary society.

The author is not crazy no, just perverted. Quite obviously his writing this contributed to a major masturbatory episode for him and the thought that people will be reading this also helped him get his jollies. Goody for him but it really doesn’t help to move discussions along.

Just forewarning Ron Unz- I understand that you don’t want to censor controversial ideas because outrageous ideas might be worthwhile in contributing to understanding our condition but really don’t encourage such articles because then your forum (which is a truly an excellent marketplace of ideas) will just degenerate into a fifth-rate porn site.

Catastrophe on the Shelob’s frontier !
The undersea cables snap as her web !
Isolation of the whore country’s, where whores are holy !
It will be problem uphold the sex refusers and sex blackmailers holiness !
I wonder if Red Army have the nerve to touch them this time ?
It had be better to continue bomb them.

Mr. Unz, why?

Thought-provoking article with a pathetic comments section.

Don’t anti-porn advocacy groups claim that 90%+ of men consume porn at least semi-regularly? If so, this won’t be any less true on the terminally online “dissident right”. So we have a hive of degenerates larping as hysterical, prudish schoolmarms.

One of the main reasons why low status men can’t be bothered to do anything is they are pacified by pornography (as well as social media, which can go hand in hand), often with a Freudian flavour. I remember looking up some porn consumption stats a few years ago and my first thought was “Freud and de Sade were right”. Furthermore, “extreme”, marginalised online communities are only going to be more deviant than the average porn consumer. I strongly suspect that ideological commitment frequently leads to desiring its own destruction in the online porn age, which is a problem that must be grappled with if one is serious.

This is one of the most weird, disgusting, positively misanthropic essays I’ve read, coming from a mentally deranged imbecile and pervert that probably wrote this because he’s aroused by the idea of other people imagining him licking feces from socioeconomically superior women, something that also arouses him.

Your claim that liberals assume conservative males are all bisexuals is not true. I’m a liberal, and no liberal thinks that. We do think that conservatives have a pathological fear of emasculation. For instance, lotsa of conservative white males like watching cuckold porn, and interracial porn of white girls getting rammed by 10″ black penises. But liberals do not necessarily think all conservative white males are secretly gay. I mean, some are(Lindsey “cough” Graham)

But you, Robert Stark, are something else. Besides being a hateful Right-wing bigot piece of shit like Edward Dutton, your coprophilia and arousal with submissive sexual acts IS an indicator of a true Omega Male trash. Imagine a man who’s submissiveness is such that he gets aroused by the smell and taste of feces of another person.

It’s funny that you tried to denigrate liberals calling them subhuman mutants, ugly people with purple hair and tattoos. Putting aside the fact that this is not true, even if it were, at leas the Libs don’t go on public forums and confess to enjoy eating the feces of other people, especially of the Libs are males.

Here is Giga-Stacy, Jade Weber. She is a huge Lib(campaigned for both Hillary and Kamala), and yet she is 1,000,000 X better than you. She is so much better than you that she wouldn’t deem you worthy of even smelling her farts!

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White men can be and are attracted to northern Asians because of the genetic link. The word “Caucasian” is a clue. A blonde, blue-eyed Jewess, however, is a wolf in Aryan clothing.

Shall we now commence with the analysis, Professor Portnoy?

Goebbels was a hit with the ladies.
Heydrich was a lady killer.

This article should be gassed.

The dashes in the naughty words make it all right, like Jews typing G-d in their forum posts.

Which would make it typical, like my comments:

I’ve read several, and they’ve all presented the author as more discerning and rational than everyone else, whatever the topic.

What’s Mr. Stark’s résumé look like?

How’d he escape relative obscurity at Substack to become the latest shooting star (see also Revusky, Raches) at The Unz Review?

I’m not going to read this one.

What the F is this porn on Unz Review? Who does this guy think he is: Philip Roth?

I suspect no readers are fooled that the supposed political angle presented (barely) was merely a vehicle for the author to talk about himself and his lust. Smh….

This article is nightmarish.

“perhaps I was a repressed philosemite”

this might be cantagious:

http://seductivejewess7.com

gas this guy immediately. Use bug-spray, or whatever else is handy.

Checked the first couple paragraphs, then did a word search. The singular pronoun “I” appears over 75 times.
Which means the whole article is narcissistic garbage.

“40 years later the NFL fan was still living hand to mouth and blaming everybody else for that (but Gawd forbid, never blame the sky daddies). His 98 IQ was adequate for piecework and calling a foul even before the whistle blew, but he still couldn’t figure out why he never got that foreman job and commented on why so and so was so “rich,â€� and during poker games, the discussion about whose ass he must’ve kissed to get there. It’s the ‘murican story and in a broader sense, essentially explains how the US got where it got. It takes something special to fill up a capitol with political hacks, richer than rich, yet acting dumber than a stump..”

This doesn’t just describe some whites, but people in general. Every group in the world, (including jews) blame the other guy for their misfortunes and if they’re religious, do think that the hand of the divine has a lot of influence as to how one gets along in this world. Kissing ass is a worldwide phenomenon, and it quite often gets you what you want in life. It’s not just an white American thing, it’s practiced from Calcutta to California.

wrote: “Jewish children today are lazier and less intelligent than they were then because intelligent Jews have been headed towards extinction since the late 19th century and that’s not changing in the slightest. On the other hand, unintelligent Jews have enough children to increase in numbers.”

Yes, increase their numbers, but not their influence. Jews are intermarrying with gentiles and diluting their intellects. Most of their half breed kids are reportedly remaining Jews, but as their brainpower gets closer to gentile levels (even with a little assortative mating going on), their influence will inevitably decline.

A similar problem in Israel: the Ashkenazim have both lower birthrates than the Sephardim and are marrying them too. They believe their own egalitarian nonsense, or as the Old Testament puts it, “The Lord is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands.”–Psalm 9:16

In the book of Proverbs, “Wisdom,” being personified, says, “But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof: I also will laugh at your calamity;” Proverbs 1:25-26

Unfortunately, the whole world has been headed down the primrose path of dysgenic fertility for quite a while now. I am not surprised that a prosperous society ignores God and turns its back on morality-this story has repeated many times in history. But I am surprised that we have turned our backs on basic facts of biology. It was not just the Bush administration that imagines it can create its own reality.

Another difference is that the question is clearly settled now, and has been for a long time. Even a century ago, the egalitarian argument was the longest of long shots, and today it is not even that. Boas and his disciples were clearly wrong, as was Marx who was their real inspiration. Unfortunately, the debate drags on through obfuscation, but the general public, the press, and the humanities majors, who are mostly scientifically illiterate to begin with, will read something like Gould’s _Mismeasure of Man_ and think it represents mainstream science instead of the desperate deceptions of a dedicated Marxist ideologue that it is.

And why are the high profile proponents of equality not only Marxists but mostly Jewish Marxists too? Boas, Weltfish, Lewontin, Gould, Rose, Kamin, Diamond, not just Marxists but even more narrowly Jewish Marxists?

To be fair, I should qualify this a bit. The late James Flynn was a gentile Marxist (by his own public admission, a lapsed Catholic from a devout family turned atheistic Marxist, I don’t know why, but he also seemed to be the solitary gentleman among a gang of disingenuous “anti-racist” rogues), and two of Boas’s otherwise all Jewish “inner circle” were also gentiles–Ruth Benedict and Margaret Mead, but the first was a lesbian and the second was bisexual, so they were misfits in normal society but found acceptance among the radical left.

“More like all the other genus of humans migrated INTO Africa” – Fuerle’s theory is clearly wrong. I told him (via the internet) before he published his book that he should acquaint himself with the mainstream literature first instead of just assuming that it was all motivated by liberal politics and could be safely ignored. Just one example: if Africa is the most diverse region because of migrations into Africa, why did Africa get only those migrants who shared extraordinarily few genes with Neanderthals and none with Denisovans??? (I know Richard wrote his book before those discoveries, but there were and are plenty of other problems with the theory too. Out of Africa is still the most parsimonious explanation for the evidence, by far.)

How about we kill all the faggots

Another massacre? We are supposed to be at a higher level of development at this time. How about they just pay higher taxes? If they want to be accepted into the civilization that has somehow survived without them for thousands of years, they should literally pay their way into it to offset the burden of moral shifts.

“A scientist would observe that if there was a gene for being unconditionally homosexual it would have no future, therefore there is no such gene. A scientist would also observe that homosexual behaviour must have some utility or it could not possibly be so persistent.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetic_theories_of_homosexuality

Epigenetics acting upon a complex genome offers a potential partial explanation for perpetuation of an unfit trait at low numbers in the population. Epi-marks can be transmitted from parent to child, but will likely not persist through to subsequent generations, or the can arise from environmental stressors. Consider the latter along with Freud’s observation that many homosexual men have domineering mothers. Could embryonic development in a less than feminine womb cause critical genes to be switched off through physioenvironmentally induced epigenetic modifications?

I also have an extra hole between my legs. Nothing you could even fit a pinky finger in. But it’s there.

Sounds to me like you suffer from Misidentified Anus Syndrome. Trust me, it’ll take a pinky and then some, you’re just not trying.

There’s no such thing as an IQ gene, but most people (especially on this board) will accept that there is a genetic component to IQ. If you believe that chemicals created by human industry are the only cause of homosexuality, then you should also believe that slavery is the only cause of black crime rates. No one has yet been able to identify a single isolated gene which causes black criminality.

Within the natural world we actually do find behaviors which would be seen as “homosexual” if done by humans. A male dog humping another male dog is one obvious case, which I’ve observed plenty of times. But in the animal world such behavior has no wider ramifications because of limited memory. Even when it comes to heterosexual behavior among animals, the limits of memory make the behavior different from what we normally see among humans.

I found a newly born female kitten on the side of the highway on January 7, 2020. I would normally have gotten her spayed in July of that year, but with all of the CV-19 panic I haven’t taken her to a vet yet. Fortunately, the male cat whom I already had was neutered and so there was no concern about an unexpected pregnancy. I’ve had the chance to watch her moods over the last 3 years. Every 6 months or so she goes into the pattern of trying to grab his attention. Even though he’s neutered, he responds when she starts coming on. After about a week, things subside, and she loses interest. It then seems to be forgotten for a long time.

Humans would not be able to forget things so easily. We would remember and dwell on what had occurred. Should these 2 cats be getting married? Is there a future for them together? The animals don’t think about those things.

Similarly, any instances of homosexual behavior which occur in the wild are easily overlooked. They aren’t recorded through reproductive effects, so they are easy to dismiss. But there’s evidence that such behavior does occur on a low level across the animal kingdom.

It isn’t necessary either to assume some vitally important function for homosexuality in order to allow for it evolving on the edges. A species is like a giant corporation. Within most corporations you will find instances of behavior by employees which is mostly harmless but does nothing to advance the company’s bottom line. As long as enough employees do what needs to be done, that is irrelevant. Similarly, if a small portion of a population occasionally engages in some quirky homosexual behavior, then it won’t disrupt the main activity of the species which continues to propagate. That can continue for a long time without doing anything special for evolution.

It seems that homosexuality can be both genetic and circumstantially induced. The common thread is that the homosexual usually has unwanted genes that nature does not want to propagate.

As we can see from multiple instances, various WNs, when faced with the simple question of whether they thought it would be worse for them to have sex with a white man or the prettiest quatroon/mulatto (such as a 1970s Pam Grier or a 1990s Halle Berry), many either said they would choose the man, or refused to answer the question even after it was posed a second, third, or fourth time to them. This is a situation where no answer clearly IS an answer.

Remember that a regular heterosexual man (white or otherwise) would have no hesitation in making it super clear that he prefers a 1990s Halle Berry (or equivalent famously pretty mulatto/quatroon) over a man (of any race) as a sexual partner.

Their rationale is that race loyalty has to trump sexual orientation, and that producing no baby is better than producing a quatroon or octoroon baby. At least they are able to spell out their logic.

The full list of commenters here who either outright said they prefer the man, or would not say that they prefer the prettiest quatroon woman in the world over a man, is as follows :

JohnnySmoggins
GeneralRimmer
utu
AndrewR
Svigor
Mike Tre (aka MikeatMikedotMike)
Hangnail Hans
Twodees Partain
BenKenobi
neutral
iffen
William Badwhite
Porktastic
Polistra
Pericles
Lurker
Cowtown Rebel
ATBOTL
Trinity
JMcG
kihowi

Remember that any of these individuals can get removed from this list at any time if they simply say that having sex with a 1990s Halle Berry (or equivalent very pretty quatroon/mulatto) is much better than having sex with a white man.

Truth, Rosie, Mrs. Alden, Audacious Epigone, and Anatoly Karlin will all vouch for having seen members of this list behaving as described above.

There is no such thing as a “homosexual gene�.
That being said, homosexuality is a result of “grooming� in all cases.
Not only outsiders, but some parents unwittingly groom their children into the homosexual “lifestyle�.
Some parents, especially those without a “man in the house� think that it is “cute� to dress their little boys in girls clothing. Some children pick up on this and think that it is OK to ignore their own sexual makeup, setting them up to be more receptive to “grooming� by adult homosexuals.
Grooming is effective in children as their sexual mores are not yet “set in stone� and as such, manipulation by adult groomers is successful introducing them to the homosexual “lifestyle�, ruining them for life.
Homosexual “grooming� is actually pedophilia in action and is criminal in all 50 states.
Ever wonder why homosexual conversion therapy programs have been made “illegal� in certain pro-homosexual states?
Because they WORK to reorient homosexuals into accepting and embracing their proper sexual role. Conversion therapy programs get rid of the “grooming� brainwashing that was imposed on them at an early age.
Former San Francisco “mayor� Harvey Milk bragged about “getting them while they’re young� and was himself a homosexual pedophile.

hey douchebag, i’d love to respond to your idiotic comment, as i had thought your were just trolling but apparently you are an actual idiot, so i apologize for calling you a troll. as to why i don’t want to senselessly murder “faggots” for being “faggots”, it is the same reason i don’t want to senselessly murder you for being an idiot. i just don’t get off on murdering people, like you claim to. interesting that you use the term faggots, first ascribed to them when they were using bundles of sticks to burn them to death. you sound a lot like the ukranazis that burned people alive in odessa, maybe you should take your “skills” to ukraine, if your not already there.

By the way, I 100% agree that there is no such thing as a gay gene. It was just a fiction invented by stupid ideologues years ago. No evidence for it at all, despite years of trying.

However, a few will be so regardless of social pressure and for some biological or neurological reason, or a combination.

Really, who cares?

Read gay troll’s comments on this thread, he’s old school and what he says is interesting. The most misogynistic rant I’ve heard in my life was from a male homosexual. So over-the-top that it was entertaining.

Some portion are natural, as seems to be the case with gay troll. OTOH, other portions are due to early molestation by older men or female, usually maternal, influence. The closest friend I ever had of that persuasion told me that he was that way because of bad behaviour by his mother. He never went into the details, so I don’t know exactly what he meant.

This is also true of female homosexuals. The writer of The Vagina Monologues, (((Eve Einsler))), boasted of having molested a twelve-year-old girl in the original edition of her “work”. She later changed the age to sixteen.

(((Lena Dunham))) also boasts of having fiddled with her (now homosexual) younger sister’s private parts in her autobiography.

Not that I have read either of those two in full.

Again, a few are naturals, and I had a good friend who seemed so.

Another factor, seems more so with men, is the thrill of erotic terror. More and more perverse things, more thrills. Of course, the Jewish-directed flood of porn pushes things that way.

That very young children are being indoctrinated to be homosexual or tranny in most western countries is a new factor. Obviously, this is making a difference.

There is no such thing as a gay gene and there is no such thing as evolution.

Evolution doesn’t have to be perfect, just good enough to get a critical mass of us into grandparenthood. Myopia shouldn’t have survived the Ice Age but it did.

Homosexuality is too rare to be an evolved response to anything; it’s a pathology like schizophrenia, pediatric cancer, or type 1 diabetes. It’s only amplified into social contagion at this point because of strenuous efforts by Megaphone-holders, themselves only around because of technological advances enabling the practical abolition of scarcity. 95+% of people remain viscerally repulsed by the thought of someone of their own sex being physically intimate with them.

Autism numbers went up at the same time that mental retardation numbers went down. A Swedish study found that when you use criteria that are consistent over time, autism had not really increased. Dull kids are just getting reclassified. Less stigma and more programs to help the autistic.

I suppose the fundamentalist bigots at the CDC just make up the hepatitis prevalence rates in MSM to slander them.

Yawn.

Homos are not “feminine”. Imagine describing a pederast as “motherly” or “nurturing” lmao. I wouldn’t tolerate a woman who acted anything like your typical sodomite. Homos are just perverts, there is no more “gene” required for sodomitical perversion than one is necessary for being a foot fetishist or a more general coprophile (rather than just one that specializes in male-only feces).

“It has nothing to do with genes. I believe male homosexuality is some kind of a congenital birth defect like a harelip or a clubfoot.”

The heritability of clubfoot is 0.60 or 60% (=60% of the variance in the trait is due to genes). Heritability of “hair lip” is 70%. Heritability of homosexuality is less than 50%, but still substantial. Genetic defects make one vulnerable or more vulnerable to environmental influences.

In surveys, most homosexuals report that they have had relations with the opposite sex as well. They are far less likely than heterosexuals to target one type of sexual partner exclusively.

Historically, it is likely that many homosexual men and more homosexual women have married and reproduced due to social expectations. Also, some people are sexually variable. In 1994, a very carefully done study, which actually found results that were more conservative than previous sex surveys that were rather sloppy about their sampling procedures, found that 6% of each sex, or 1 self identified HETEROSEXUAL out of every 19, said that they believed they would find a homosexual encounter enjoyable. It is easy to see how these factors could keep susceptibility to homosexuality in the gene pool at a low level. Only the most severely affected are likely to weed themselves completely from the gene pool, but even in their cases they are likely to have reproducing relatives who share many of the same genes.

For some reason, sheep have a lot of homosexual rams. Some years ago, a report hit the popular media that some researcher had bred a strain of exclusively homosexual sheep, an utterly useless and not naturally sustainable endeavor except to score a political point. But in theory, the opposite should also be possible. In practice, it is hard to regulate the breeding of humans, and perhaps even harder to identify the closeted homosexuals or the numerous (at least 6%) heterosexuals who have the ability to “go the other way” without much difficulty.

If human societies could take control of their own breeding, we could eliminate a lot of our individual and collective problems. However, that would probably require that our societies evolve further in the direction of eusocial species such as ants, bees, termites, and the naked mole rat which is currently the most eusocial mammal. Some biologists argue we have already developed quite far in that direction. The main eusocial characteristic that we continue to lack is controlled differential fertility, that is, a primate counterpart to the queen breeders found in fully eusocial species.

By the way, both Hutterites and early LDS Mormons symbolized their societies as bee colonies. That is why the beehive is a symbol of Utah. The Bible says, “Go to the ant, thou sluggard. Consider her ways and be wise.” I suppose bees will do just as well. Mainstream Americans loathe the idea of modeling themselves on a colony of ants, and science fiction has trained us to dread that sort of social order (think of “The Borg” in the Star Trek series), but it appears to be the most logical way forward for our species.

Maybe there’s no such thing as a ‘gay gene’. Has anyone thought of that. That it’s all due to environmental factors and that the only changes to human genes involved in homosexuality are epigenetic and probably caused by exposure in utero to pollutants and hormone-disrupters. That is, it is all congenital rather than genetic.

Pinochet was not a Fascist. He was a Chicago School “free marketeer” and an admirer of Milton Friedman.

Research consistently indicates that homosexuality is the result of interacting environmental and genetic factors. The environmental factors are larger, but in almost all studies the genetic factor is not small either.

I just wish the scientists would also research paedophilia and zoophilia. I am sure they would find a genetic factor for them as well. All three of these behaviors are already linked statistically to elevated rates of “non-right” handedness and minor physical anomalies. Because low childhood mortality from sanitary science, vaccines, and antibiotics is allowing gene level mutations that affect both body and mind to accumulate, we can expect growing numbers of persons to be affected by these and other problems.

We need either a return to far higher childhood mortality rates, or we need an effective eugenics program. Otherwise, our social problems will continue to worsen.

I think the idea of homos as butt pirates is pure projection.

It’s not projecting when the HIV epidemic was spread primary through anal sex.

Monkeypox aka Buttpox could have easily mutated and turned into another epidemic. Gay men are a threat to public health because they insist upon having anal sex with multiple partners. It’s an extremely high risk form of sex. The anus is not designed for sex and much more likely to tear and bleed. Combine that with random partners and you get an STD outbreak. Gay men are responsible for the spread of numerous STDs and not just HIV.

Straight men try to imagine gay sex, and can only think of putting the penis somewhere. It’s straight men who love anal — just ask the prostitutes that they pay extra for it.

Well that actually sounds like projection. I’m sure prostitutes charge for all kinds of things that are outside the norm.

If it is more prevalent among homos today, I suspect it’s a reverse phenom, like marriage and adoption. It’s become “assumed� they want it, so they feel they have to play along.

The original buttpox outbreak came from a massive orgy that included anal sex. In fact gays couldn’t give anal sex a break for 2 months. It would have gone away if they avoided gay sex or maintained one partner.
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-health-and-wellness/monkeypox-driven-overwhelmingly-sex-men-major-study-finds-rcna39564

Oops you’re right I called you @TKK, my bad, that guy is much cooler than you.

Thanks for the word salad and the link soup but all I asked for was a citation supporting a link between T. Gondii and homosexuality. Where is it? You said the parasite makes rats attracted to cat urine, which everybody already knows. You seem to think this is already proof that it makes humans gay. Okay…don’t women produce urine and feces as well? Why aren’t gay men interested in that? The whole point of T. Gondii in rats and cats is that it completes the parasites’ life cycle. It cannot do the same in a human body, so why would it even affect human bodies in the same way?

Even you are trying to explain why people are born gay, since you dismiss the possibility of becoming spontaneously gay later in life. So your theory must be that T. Gondii infects mothers who pass on behavioral changes to their sons. It seems to me that you are twisting yourself into a pretzel by insisting that gayness can only be a disease and not a natural variation. Bare assumptions and unrelated links are not enough to support your thesis. Show me the evidence.

If you think gay men are attracted to shit then you really don’t understand anything. Gay men are attracted to dicks. All gays want dick first and foremost. You don’t even know what gay people are. Tilting at windmills…

You also claimed that “animals be faggots�. OK then, which other animals engage in anal sex?

And how do you make a bull dyke? Let a little girl get repeatedly molested by a man when they are on the wrong side of puberty.

So you are going to blame all bull dykes on men?

If molestation caused lesbianism then you would see far more variation.

Unless you want to argue that child molesters like large and boyish looking girls.

Bull dykes are most likely dating rejects.

Homosexuality in men is most likely a gene mutation.

Anal sex is clearly a natural option. Humans like other primates are designed (if you will) to copulate a tergo (from behind), and so the “wrong hole” (as the abused wife in Last Exit to Brooklyn, not to be confused with Last Tango in Parishollers out) will occasionally come into play.

“Love has pitched his tent/in the place of excrement” — W. B. Yeats, hero of the right wing.

At some point humans began copulating face to face — the so-called “missionary position” as the natives called it, after spying on the reverend and his wife. Desmond Morris (The Naked Ape) speculated that this is why human females evolved firm, pert breasts, rather than the saggy baboon titties of National Geographic, to replace the signal provided by the buttocks. Negroes seem to be stuck at the buttock phase — hence, “twerking.”

My anecdotal evidence, from the homos I spoke with in NYC in the 90s, is that anal sex is not a favorite — I recall occasions when someone announced “I have anal last night for the first time, why didn’t someone tell me about the after-effects!”

I think the idea of homos as butt pirates is pure projection. Straight men try to imagine gay sex, and can only think of putting the penis somewhere. It’s straight men who love anal — just ask the prostitutes that they pay extra for it. They beg it from their wives and girlfriends, and sometimes get it as a birthday present. I hope they’re happy with it.

If it is more prevalent among homos today, I suspect it’s a reverse phenom, like marriage and adoption. It’s become “assumed” they want it, so they feel they have to play along.

When you’re physically capable of holding a discussion without a logical fallacy, let us know, okay sodomite? Until then, just fuck off back to Reddit or wherever else your antidiscourse is standard practice. This is middle school bullshit; it should be humiliating to your coworkers.

Hey there, queer. You need to learn how to use real replies. It was only by chance that I even saw your reply. No one is going to know to whom you’re speaking when you invent random usernames that no one is using.

>> That’s really dumb.

Yes, it’s why faggots do it. It’s axiomatic.

>> You think gay people are any less averse to shit, for example, than straight people?

What I think doesn’t matter. We know it’s objectively true and has been studied and shown to be true. It’s a direct consequence of the parasitic infection.

;>Gay people have no interest in shit at all.

Wrong. T. gondii, for example, causes rats to become sexually attracted to cat urine. Is urine an intrinsically sexual object? No. Is a sphincter an intrinsically sexual object? No. One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having relations only one time with over 50% of their partners. The average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year. Of homosexuals questioned, 43% admitted to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admitted to 1000 or more in a lifetime. 25% of gay men in America have had over 1000 sex partners. 10-15% of older homosexuals have more than 1000 sex partners. In Australia, 25% of homosexuals have had more than 100 sex partners. 43% of gay men have over 500 partners. Of these people, 79% said that half of those partners were total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts were one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film “The Castro,� one minute stands). The average heterosexual has only 8 partners in a lifetime, even after the sexual revolution’s damage. Homosexual encounters occur statistically often while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting. 41% of homosexuals say they have had encounters with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had met strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs.

Many homosexuals don’t heed the warnings of their lifestyle: “Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior.� Homosexuals got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 1970s by attacking the annual American Psychiatric Association conference on successive years. “Guerrilla theater tactics and more straightforward shouting matches characterized their presence.� In the decades since homosexuality has been removed from the APA list of mental illnesses, so has pedophilia (except when the adult feels “subjective distress�). 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism. Gay men are six times more likely to commit suicide than straight men. Gay men are 12 times more likely to use amphetamines than straight men. Gay men are 10x more likely to use heroin than straight men. Gay people are 2-3 times more likely to abuse alcohol than straight people. 79% of homosexual men say over half of their sex partners are strangers.

In the aforementioned study, the average homosexual fellated somewhere between 20 and 106 men, swallowed 50 seminal discharges, had 72 penile penetrations of the anus, and ingested feces of 23 different men each year. The study reports that 90% of homosexuals have engaged in anal penetration, and 66% engage regularly.

Gee, I wonder what T. gondii does to human neuropsychology…

> Toxoplasmosis increases the reaction time of infected subjects, which can explain the increased probability of traffic accidents in infected subjects reported in three retrospective and one very large prospective case-control study. Latent toxoplasmosis is associated with immunosuppression, which might explain the increased probability of giving birth to a boy in Toxoplasma-infected women and also the extremely high prevalence of toxoplasmosis in mothers of children with Down syndrome… …Toxoplasma also appears to be involved in the initiation of more severe forms of schizophrenia.

> The one trait that carriers of both genders share is a higher level of neuroticism – they are more prone to guilt, self-doubt and insecurity.

> Common infectious pathogens have been associated with psychiatric disorders, self-violence and risk-taking behavior.

>>What other species turn gay because of parasites? I’ll wait.

You were literally already told, dipshit.

>>You still haven’t addressed that the human body is adapted for anal sex

It literally isn’t. You’re just mentally defective and are a walking (cheeks clenched, because of the colostomy bag) stereotype that is addressed in the study quote above. “Aware of the risks but ignores them.� Enjoy your distended sphincter.

>>No other animal on Earth even has an ass.

This is how retarded queers actually are. This is what they actually think we’ll believe.

>> Why don’t you think about that for a while?

I’m not a sodomite, so I don’t spend my time thinking about sodomy like you do.

>> Why do you feel the need to make mankind conform to the animal kingdom?

Said the homosexual, trying to justify his objectively and universally unhealthy behavior by citing the animal kingdom. Go on, subhuman. Tell us that bestiality and incest are good because animals do it. Say the fucking line. Read from the script. I know all your tricks.

>>The whole fucking point of mankind is that we are special and heavily distinguished from other animals.

And thus don’t do what animals do, like be faggots.

>>A little gayness is the price of your humanity.

Nah, exact opposite of reality. Faggot hatred is genetic (cited below). Only brainwashing and chemical torture can change this innate feeling.

>> Take it or leave it.

I’m leaving it, yeah. It’s subsapient, animalistic behavior. Faggots need to be exterminated and we need a cure for T. gondii.

>>Fall off the ladder and rejoin the vermin if you find humanity so objectionable.

Said the advocate for sodomy, without a shred of irony.

>>Sex is gross, even straight sex.

Look at the queer, ladies and gents.

>>I would say hormonal imbalance is a much more likely cause of homosexual orientation than T. gondii.

Which causes hormonal imbalance, dumbass.

>>How many straight people become spontaneously gay later in life?

None, by the definition of the word.

>>Why do you pontificate about something that you obviously know nothing about?

Oof, how humiliating for you.

>> Put up some references to support your thesis or else shut the fuck up.

Citations, by the way. This isn’t the best site on which to be able to post them inline. Enjoy being objectively wrong, disease-riddled filth. Now shut the fuck up, coward.

* https://archive.is/f9Twu
* https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0023277
* https://archive.is/Q5mNA
* https://archive.is/oR8eV
* https://archive.md/2AGMA
* https://archive.is/A2UOS
* https://archive.md/q53LX
* http://web.archive.org/web/20190528045852/https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM198002213020804
* https://archive.md/pCbTh
* https://archive.md/0G1Xa
* https://archive.md/TYPwX
* https://archive.md/koSPO
* https://archive.fo/wPLKx
* https://archive.is/9jsIR

You evidently spend lots of time thinking about male homosexuality.

Hey, coward. Would you mind replying to my comment and explaining why you believe I’m a troll? Perhaps with citations and sources, or at the very least some effort whatsoever? The slightest possible effort in articulating your own beliefs and why you think faggots deserve to live?

Thanks. I don’t expect you to actually have the balls to do this one simple thing, though.

No wonder then that they were patronized and protected by the privileged classes that craved the finer things in life. Even conservative men want their wives’ dresses to be designed by some toot than by Big Boss Man. Consider all the famous homosexual artists who were favored and fawned upon by the privileged classes despite the prevailing sexual mores and prohibitions.

For example, Chile:

“In Chile, Sodano didn’t give the impression of being a churchman at all. He loved good food and power. I was struck by his misogyny, which contrasted with the fact that he was very effeminate. His way of shaking hands was very unusual: he didn’t shake your hand, he gave you a kind of feminine caress, like a nineteenth-century courtesan before she faints and demands smelling salts! Witnesses were also dumbfounded to see Sodano “bowing all the way to the floorâ€� when he met the dictator . . . with his entourage, a pageant of male creatures, devoted to him body and soul.”

The dictator was, of course, General Pinochet, to whom Sodano’s attitude was “pragmatic,� to put it mildly. Just as John Paul dismissed rumors of homosexuality or pederasty as Communist propaganda, his nuncio did the same with all criticisms of Pinochet’s regime, to the point where the Holy See was one of few states maintaining diplomatic relations. In fact, Sodano arranged a “highly symbolic appearance of the pope and General Pinochet on the balcony at the Presidential Palace.�

Indeed, not for the first time, “Catholicism, fascism, and homosexuality produced a strange cocktail.� Martel speaks with Santiago Schuler, “a pro-Pinochet gay.�

“His gay restaurant, El Toro, tiny inside, but much larger when extended into the street on a terrace under an awning, represents the heart of Santiago’s gay life. And what a paradox! Chile’s emblematic LGBT venue is run by a fundamentalist ex-Catholic, an old personal friend of Pinochet’s! “Homosexuals weren’t very worried under Pinochet, even though the regime was indeed quite macho,â€� Santiago Schuler suggests. According to Schuler and other sources, Pinochet’s wife was both a practicing Catholic and gay-friendly. The Pinochets even surrounded themselves with a veritable court of Catholic homosexuals. The presidential couple liked to be seen with certain local gay figures, at parties and gala dinners, just as Pinochet liked to be seen with the nuncio Angelo Sodano.

“According to Óscar Contardo, Pablo Simonetti, and other experts, the dictatorship didn’t persecute homosexuals as such, in a special or specific way (like Castro’s regime in Cuba, the previous socialist government, led by Allende, wasn’t very gay-friendly either). What is strange, on the other hand, and to some extent startling, is the very existence of a real ‘gay court’ in Pinochet’s entourage.”

Sounds pretty good, but there were a few, um, problems, or at least one big one: Fernando Karadima.

“According to the 14 witnesses in the trial and the 50 or so complaints registered, the sexual abuse began in the late 1960s and continued until 2010. For 50 years, Karadima abused dozens of boys between the ages of 12 and 17, most of them white and blond.”

Yes, Fascism and Catholicism, the twin pillars in defense of traditional values. But after all the pompous verbal diarrhea, it’s squareheads down for the big boche gangbang. [Blackadder]

“The priest’s actions caused outrage throughout the 1980s and 1990s, but Pinochet’s gay entourage and the Chilean episcopacy protected Karadima and brushed the whole case under the carpet.

“The reasons that led Sodano (as well as Cardinal Errázuriz and Cardinal Bertone, who replaced Sodano as secretary of state in 2006) to protect this pedophile priest remain mysterious. Everything suggests that it was not just a matter of covering up for a priest accused of sexual abuse, but of a whole system in which the Church and Pinochet’s dictatorship were closely linked, and would have had a lot to lose if the priest had begun to talk. In any case, out of loyalty to the system, Sodano would always defend priests accused of sexual abuse, to preserve the institution, defend his friends, and perhaps also to protect himself.”

But wait. . . there’s more! Sodano — known among insiders as “Pinochette� — had some interesting members of the entourage, such as these two:

Maybe Ron Unz believes in free speech, if you don’t believe in free speech for people you disagree with, you don’t believe in free speech at all.

We are increasingly being exposed to a wide variety of chemicals which can screw with your hormones so your hypothesis does have some face validity. I remember from decades ago cases of fish that were changing sex due to chemical pollutants, I doubt the waters have been cleaned up. With the plasticisers leaking out of plastics, estrogen mimicking isoflavones in plant based foods and the industrial pollution, it is hardly a wonder that our hormones are being affected. Maybe some cynical bastards decided that it would be cheaper to convince everyone that it was normal to be gender confused than to clean up the environment.

OK, you do seem to ne an unusual case, maybe you are intersex. I hope it works out for you, every deserves a chance to be happy with themselves.

Your candor is appreciated and that seems to be the common sentiment of other
comments also.You may indeed be intersexual in that are you are not comfortable with your gay identity and consider all varieties of sexual intercourse to be”gross.”

I disagree with the standard definition of intersexual because it seems plausible that one need not have anatomical characteristics of both sexes to be intersexual.It may be totally a matter of identity and emotion in some cases.I worked in the behavioral health field for many years and knew a few people who fit that profile.

I have a few old classmates that are currently plying the psychology trade. They privately tell me that much more often than not homosexuality is associated with varying degrees of mental illness. I got the idea that homosexuality is not necessarily the mental illness per se. But rather that people that experience various types of mental illness find themselves going down the path of homo sex. So I suppose homosexuality is the symptom and not the disease.

Of course, not unlike autism, it is a spectrum. The trannies that want to mutilate themselves are crazy as shithouse rats. I mean think about a man that believes that in order to be happy what they need to do is cut their dick and balls off. Obviously self destructive mental illness.

And then there are the ones that got molested as kids and seem to permanently equate sexual pleasure with the type of sex that first made them cum. I suspect many of these constitute the common, garden variety fairies. Or the adolescent teen boy that their first sexual experience, for whatever reason, happened to be homosexual. Same thing. Most of them become gay.

And how do you make a bull dyke? Let a little girl get repeatedly molested by a man when they are on the wrong side of puberty. A certain percentage of them will become dykes and attempt to take on the role, and therefore the power, of the sex that molested them. Some of the others will become nymphos. Not gay but still fucked up and hypersexualized that puts them on a path that tends toward self destruction due to their high body count. Some of them will become “lipstick” dykes. Attractive females that swing both ways as opposed to the ugly bull dyke that just want to be the “man” in their relationship with another woman.

Homosexuality seems to frequently have a common thread of dysfunction, molestation, self destruction and mental illness associated with it. Of course that is simply my layman’s view of things that I concluded by talking to some of my old classmates that are more educated in psychology than myself. But I don’t think I am wrong.

Sulu

Why does he make things up and not define terms?

Because this is The Unz Review, and for some reason those are Ron’s editorial standards. Not trying to insult Ron here: he has freely, openly, and repeatedly admitted that he publishes cranks who simply make things up as they go along.

I keep asking why but really, there can only be one answer. Ron Unz is a troll.

Everything makes sense when you consider the following :

i) Nature created homosexuality to divert the most defective genes out of the gene pool.
ii) White Trashionalists tend to be almost 100% male and absolute bottom of the barrel ne’er do wells. Yet the fat, bluehaired feminists are entirely white and equal in number to the White Trashionalists.
iii) There is an unusually high variance in white quality. Much more than in other races.
iv) Most White Trashionalists say that they would rather have sex with a white man ahead of a famously pretty mulatto/quatroon woman like 1970s Pam Grier or 1990s Halle Berry.

Ergo, the white race has a unique quarantine and filtration mechanism for unwanted genetic waste matter. The upper 90% of white people have no flaws, while all the flaws neatly concentrate into the bottom 10% for continuous, efficient removal from the gene pool. This is why the white race keeps improving, we have a special feature where the wastematter gets eliminated from the gene pool via a defective subrace that comprises the bottom 10% of whites.

The males of this defective subrace become the White Trashionalists, while the women become the fat bluehaired feminists. This is why there are no women in White Trashionalism, but fat bluehaired feminists are both equal in number and defective IQ/appearance to the male White Trashionalists.

This explanation is both robust and elegant, and really does explain everything.

I truly admire your honesty

I don’t think since publication of ‘All you ever wanted to know about sex but were too timid to ask’ in 1969 has there been a work of such quackery, old wives tales, and misinformation:
“How could homosexuality have survived when gay hiney hole sex never produced a single human life? (and you might have added that eons of lesbianistic licking and rubbing never produced human life either).
That is because homosexuals are the result of sexual reproduction; gays are made by straights.

It has nothing to do with genes. I believe male homosexuality is some kind of a congenital birth defect like a harelip or a clubfoot. In the case of gayness the individual is born either with some amount of gender dysphoria or without the natural revulsion to same sex attraction.

Knew a character who had 2 pre school children and a marvelous wife and later someone told me the guy had divorced the wife.

The lady I know is very difficult. I figured her husband is gay and I only met him once for several minutes. I haven’t known her for long, so I don’t know what they were like when they were younger, but she is the type that you would joke about turning her husband gay. Maybe he had an effect on her?

Ironically, both of their fathers were Methodist ministers. They now belong to some sort of flaky church that celebrates Jewish holidays (she got all upset recently because she couldn’t take Yom Kippur off!) and broke off from the mainstream Methodist church over its lack of support for gay marriage. She said the gay men in her church all supported her after the split, which is good, I guess. They probably saw it coming a mile away, if they hadn’t had a piece themselves. That has to be a helluva church, all full of homers and unsexed old church ladies!

Why does this random guy think he has the answer to homosexuality? Why did he not consult or look at any of the results of any sex researchers? There is a lot to learn from them. Why does he make things up and not define terms?

What Accounts for the Continuation of Homosexuality? Why Hasn’t Evolution Weeded Out the ‘Gay Gene’?

Posit the answer is de-volution. The first is to ask what was, then what went on since, which, to begin, there were no homo cavemen. None. That’s how we were able to procreate, and evolve, up to a point, then per farming becoming easier, and the rise of the con schemers making ‘false money’ and ‘state’, people chose to become more feminized, assumed they could afford to focus on secs beside procreating, instead of on being fighters against bad tribes or cabals or their ‘state’. Then chemicals by the cons, food takeover, fueled by yet more ignorance. Focus on secs is selfish ignorance, unless you bred spawn to be fighters against the cons.

De-volution and selfishness is why homo focus continues, we stopped evolving when people got lazy and continued choosing to go along under con schemes.

Appreciate the article JF, important to think about.
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You mentioned the dominance thing, in a lot of species (eg dogs) a losing male will present his rear as a signal of surrender (think “OK, you win, I’m your bitch�) The winner will typically indulge in perfunctory ritual mounting behaviour (just to make the point) and then lose interest.

Yes and a huge difference is that they aren’t actually copulating and the male dogs still want to breed with females. Gay men are simply not attracted to women. Conservatives that are worried about society turning men gay should spend time around gays. Their indifference to women is mind blowing. Talking about women in a positive or sexual context will put them in a bad mood. It’s like talking about meat around vegetarians. They don’t understand why you had to ruin the conversation with such gross talk. It’s really unbelievable. Straight conservatives project commonality that doesn’t exist. Spend time around gays and you will conclude that they are hopeless. They don’t even understand how to fake attraction to women. It’s like expecting cats to like water. Good luck to anyone that wants to try.

So why are you gay? (I don’t believe that you are intersex, your mentality is very male) Did you have older brothers? (deconfliction mechanism?) Did you grow up in an urban setting (Population control mechanism?) My take is that something in your environment triggered your ‘don’t compete for females gene’ and that is that

The problem with the environment theory is that their siblings are always straight.

My wife knows a case like this and the reality is crushing. Completely straight and Christian parents, completely straight siblings, and one kid total fag at age 3. Yes at age 3 he wanted to play with girl stuff and all the time.

The parents of course are chastised and judged even though the daughter isn’t lesbian and the other boy is completely normal. Christians want to believe that everyone has a moral choice and it just isn’t that simple. Gay men can choose to not be promiscuous but I don’t believe for one second that they can choose to be gay or straight. Not gay men anyways. Lesbians however are more of a gray area.

This means he could get aroused by a female at least three times.

I’ve heard many times that true gays can’t do that.

You may be right. But leaving your wife of 30 years, three adult children and newborn grandchild ,who lives minutes away, to move 5 hours away to live with a man that you have had a close relationship with for most of your life is gay enough for me.

So perhaps, the main reason for homosexuality isn’t so much the genetic ingredients as the complex processes involved in the mixing of those ingredients(and may explain why even a hyper-male and hyper-female can sometimes produce a pansy boy child). Such mixing of unstable and ‘opposing’ elements, ‘maleness’ and ‘femaleness’, may not always go according to plan.

This isn’t far from the best explanation I have seen which is that the gay gene is basically beneficial to women but becomes an error in men.

The theory is that the gene was selected because it makes women more attracted to men even if there is a gay male once in a while. So families with the gene are more likely get a highly sexual female that will reproduce even if there is an increased risk of a gay boy. When families normally had 4-5 kids you can see how the numbers would work out.

I have unfortunately had the experience of being around gays through a previous job and I don’t doubt at all that there is a genetic basis for most gay men. Before being around gays I was more open to the idea of it being a choice or that they had some attraction to women. The negative level of attraction they have to women was shocking. In fact it is common for gay men to assume that we straights are faking it because they don’t believe anyone can be that attracted to women. They really don’t get it.

I have read quite a bit about Christian therapies and most have very poor success rates. Even worse is that those gay men are encouraged to marry Christian women. The churches in fact attract gays that use Christian women as cover. They are actually more likely to have large families as it makes it easier for them to avoid sex with the wife.

Such men are called bisexuals. Heterosexuals will hump any female type if suitably eroticised. Fat women historically have their own status as earth Goddesses and whores. Bisexuals which are all the great actors and musicians will slant towards aesthetically pleasing men if no such females are available. By thinking that, Yung -Freud has given himself away but is quite harmless.

Knew a character who had 2 pre school children and a marvelous wife and later someone told me the guy had divorced the wife. I countered stating that he would Never find a woman as good as his first spouse but the converser stated ” NO- he left her for a —-man!” I was in shock but the converser stated I should watch Batman Forever and that cast -_Tommy Lee Jones as Two Face and Jim Carrey–perfect cast role of a nerd turning into a Twisted Riddler—perfect characterization of the dude we were discussing–

“Jews and Germans are the two most degenerate races on the face of the earth.“

Lol, they are ethnic groups, not races. Do you relish being an idiot?

@tkk screeches, “Faggots are the result of parasites which cause neurochemical changes to the brain.�

That’s really dumb. You think gay people are any less averse to shit, for example, then straight people? Wrong. Gay people have no interest in shit at all. Anal sex happens in spite of the shit and not because of it.

What other species turn gay because of parasites? I’ll wait. You still haven’t addressed that the human body is adapted for anal sex. Walking upright, losing the tail, developing the ass. No other animal on Earth even has an ass. Why don’t you think about that for a while? Why do you feel the need to make mankind conform to the animal kingdom? The whole fucking point of mankind is that we are special and heavily distinguished from other animals. A little gayness is the price of your humanity. Take it or leave it. Fall off the ladder and rejoin the vermin if you find humanity so objectionable.

Sex is gross, even straight sex. Childrens’ attitude towards sex is accurate. The only thing that changes the aversion is hormones – not parasites. Straight people require hormones to motivate their sexual activity, just like gay people. Did you know there are actually male and female hormones in every human body? I would say hormonal imbalance is a much more likely cause of homosexual orientation than T. gondii. How many straight people become spontaneously gay later in life?

Why do you pontificate about something that you obviously know nothing about? Put up some references to support your thesis or else shut the fuck up. T. gondii affects over 20% of Americans. Are they all homosexuals?

Thanks for your reply.

I grew up thinking I was straight, and wanting to be straight. What changed all that was puberty. I literally discovered my sexual orientation in a dream at age 11 or so. I dreamt about showing my friend how to masturbate.

After this I spent several years hoping my sexual orientation was a phase or that I was “bisexual�. But by 17 I felt the need to identify as gay, because I was not attracted to girls at all. “Liberal� propaganda helped give me the confidence to come out to my friends and family. But I never fit in with the “gay community� or found gay culture to be interesting or attractive. I’ve always tended to fall in love with my straight friends. Camp and makeup are so dull.

I am the eldest child and I have literally never been in a fight or been attacked in a serious manner so I don’t think deconfliction has anything to do with it. I did not grow up in the city. Likewise I have no memory of ever being abused or molested so I reject all these theories about the cycle of abuse. If we are going to insist on environmental exposure then the only hypothesis that seems plausible to me is exposure to plastics and frankenfoods.

I do think I’m intersex, since I don’t relate to straight or gay people. I also have an extra hole between my legs. Nothing you could even fit a pinky finger in. But it’s there.

Around age 18 I started smoking marijuana, and this drug affected me in profound ways. I literally feel like it forced me in touch with my feminine side, and forced me to deconstruct the masculine facade that I had learned from our culture. Spiritually, or personally, or however you slice it, I do identify as half female. I identify as androgynous and I feel this identity deeply. For this reason I have been sympathetic to the concepts of transgenderism. However, I do not support trans activism that targets children. If someone had asked me to irrevocably define my sexuality as a child, I would have chosen to be straight. In other words, I did not understand my sexuality at that age. I confused what I wanted with who I was. Even without the moral hazards of drug and surgical interventions, I do not think children should be asked to define their gender before they even hit puberty.

Being gay is not something I would actually recommend to anyone. It can be deeply dysfunctional. HOWEVER, there is nothing more liberating or fulfilling than being true to yourself. I am now at an age where I am becoming like a child again. My sexual interest is fading altogether. I still think males are the most beautiful and glorious creatures. Even as the physical urge disappears.

Scientists have researched gayness in sheep, its a serious thing for farmers as they stand to lose if they don’t breed. They discovered a certain part of the brain is a different shape, who knows maybe the same in humans.

Also there is a strong link between trannies & autism.

Autism numbers have exploded in the last two decades now trannies are suddenly everywhere when you rarely heard about them before, more than a coincidence i think

If you ask me I’d bet its some environmental / household chemical exposure in pregnancy / childhood that’s causing the increase but don’t ever think they`ll not cover it up.

Calhoun’s Mouse Utopia fits well wih this article.

By the 560th day, the population increase had ceased altogether as the mortality rate hovered at 100 percent. This marked the start of the “death phase” — aka the “die period” — in which the rodent utopia slid toward extinction.

Amidst the violence, hostility, and lack of mating, a younger generation of mice reached maturity, having never been exposed to examples of normal, healthy relations. With no concept of mating, parenting, or marking territory, this generation of mice spent all of their waking hours eating, drinking, and grooming themselves.

In reference to their perfected, unruffled appearances, Calhoun called these mice the “beautiful ones.” Living in seclusion from the other mice, they were spared the violence and conflict that waged in the crowded areas, yet made no social contributions.

According to Calhoun, the death phase consisted of two stages: the “first death” and “second death.” The former was characterized by the loss of purpose in life beyond mere existence — no desire to mate, raise young or establish a role within society. This first death was represented by the lackadaisical lives of the beautiful ones, whereas the second death was marked by the literal end of life and the extinction of the mouse utopia.

We are pretty much in the first death phase. The second death phase should around, oh, say, 2030?

This means he could get aroused by a female at least three times.

I’ve heard many times that true gays can’t do that.

As I have stated before, we are in a Gender/Race War for the survival of the white human race.

GlobalHomo aka 2SLGBTQQIAPWXYZ+ – Two Spirit, Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Beastiality, Transgender, Queer, Questioning, Intersex, Asexual people, and Pedophiles. + added to cover the overlooked, are mental disorders being pushed as normal by the same sick individuals having these mental disorders. In order to prove they’re nor sick child molesting perverts, grooming kids for their own sick sexual pleasures, they now have out of the closet celebrities, big biz, government, banks, advocate for them by imposing forced draconian laws and mandates on global society.

They have this retarded psychosis that everyone’s a homo, that they’re just afraid to come out and admit it. They adopt kids to sexually abuse them, either physically or imaginary. Their warped sexual impulse allows them to lie and make excuses for their behavior, believing “it’s who they are�.

These are the anti-Christ, anti-civilization human parasites that will eventually destroy humanity by a state of transgenderism. These despicable subhuman creatures will evolve into hundreds of self identifying gender identities, each more perverted and degenerate than the other until they eventually battle each other for dominance over humanity.

As Scott Adams of Dilbert fame so eloquently stated with his “stay the hell away from black people�, white straight people should also stay the hell away from GlobalHomo, those who identify as 2SLGBTQQIAPWXYZ+.

These postulated primitives are very progressive in their tolerance of homosexual men e.g. letting young men opt out of fighting and fooking when every body counts.

Fucking your one and only fanny is for child(ren) to come alive and nothing else. Marry Mary, multiply & be happy; family keeps on the straight line instead of strange lines. Mary A Dam m it.
Fucking is “to make” children; love in the flesh – love come alive. Children are “products” of love.
Porn makes poof(ter).
It starts oral, e.g. one wanting to tongue… suck tits…
More porn moves one literally down to the never healing wound.
Moreover porn it wants to possess and consume the whole female body (and what have you; yak).
Moreover porn it moves to more women; lust, greed … anger:
Here we go: Finally porn it to cocks… (on the anger with woman refusing being poof / sex object…)

Pornography creates sexuality and more pornography creates homosexuality and more porn…
Pornography is the root of homosexuality.

Homosexuality exists because many gay men are married and have children and secret lives. I work with a lady whose husband of 30 years just left her for the best man at their wedding. She had 3 children by her soon to be ex-husband.

Apparently homosexuality is largely unknown among hunter – gatherer tribes

Not true, there is at least one report of homosexuality among a very primitive tribe the Guayakis, with plenty of explanations about the resulting social role:

https://books.google.fr/books?id=qZ7yDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT117&lpg=PT117&dq=krembegi&source=bl&ots=unde9OHUw0&sig=ACfU3U3txDKxGgtjBfqQFIJ5skIKeFE5nw&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiww-uZtcL9AhWPSaQEHfirDZoQ6AF6BAgQEAM#v=onepage&q=krembegi&f=false

Sensing that Asian-femaleness is hipper than Asian-male-ness, even Asian males strive for feminine qualities.

I believe your intuition on this is off. The Asian boy bands play for Asian audiences. Asian girls in Asia like feminine men.

The errors don’t make it brittle but can set off peculiarities or mutations.

Yes, but such mutations are supposed to be “adaptations” to some changes in the environment and the question is not truly addressed: What is homosexuality “good for”?
The “degeneracy” paper deals exactly with this point, multiple degenerate possible causes for a feature (sexuality in this case) entail different responses to different environments.

>>So who cares? so long as people stay within the law, I am quite happy to live and let live.

You are literally the reason society has degenerated to its current state. Your abject refusal to maintain standards of civilization is an abomination against your sapience and a direct physical threat to the continued survival of human society. Faggots are the result of parasites which cause neurochemical changes to the brain. The disgust mechanism in your body exists to protect you from harm. Theirs is shut off, but yours fires rapidly when merely observing faggots and homosexual behavior. This is your brain telling you to get the fuck out of the area because a disease is there and it could be spread to you.

You, on the other hand, have consciously fought against your own self-preservation mechanisms and been brainwashed into accepting literal disease carriers spreading around your society. Do you even know what bugchasing is, you filthy libertarian whore? It’s what diseases do on a cellular level, but since the faggotry parasite causes neurochemical changes in people, it causes them to actively seek to spread disease vectors on a macro-scale. Similar to what cordyceps does to insects.

Toxoplasma gondii is the most likely candidate for the cause of faggotry in humans. Beyond T. gondii, there are other candidates for the theory of infection, and the most likely explanation for human homosexuality is that it is caused by some pathogen. It’s too common to be mutational pressure (and we don’t see syndromic versions, as we would in that case). It’s not new–identical twins are usually discordant (~75% of the time). It’s also, obviously, damaging to reproductive fitness. It’s certainly not adaptive–the “helpful gay uncle� notion, group selection, compensating advantage in females, etc. These range from impossible to statistically unlikely. And it doesn’t exist at all in hunter-gatherer societies. You have to explain what you’re even talking about when you ask them, because the idea of homosexuality doesn’t occur to them. The gay germ model leans on a couple of natural examples. One is narcolepsy.

Narcolepsy happens when a particular kind of neuron, concentrated in a tiny region in the hypothalamus, somehow gets “zapped�–damaged–and removed from normal function. 99% of narcolepsy cases happen in the 25% of the population that has a particular HLA type. This suggests that something, probably a virus, triggers an overenthusiastic immune response. This response “zaps� the neuron subpopulation which produces a particular neurotransmitter–hypocretin–that regulates appetite and sleep patterns. It doesn’t do anything else; narcoleptics aren’t stupid. You can compare narcolepsy to type 1 diabetes or Parkinson’s disease. Suppose there’s a neuron subpopulation that performs a key function in healthy sexual desire. Wipe out that subpopulation, and Bob’s your uncle. Well, your “lover.�

Live and let live? How about we kill all the faggots AND the people like you who enabled them to destroy society instead. Die and let die.

I’m not sure you are right about that, it may be true of you or I but a large proportion of men seem to have no standards at all.

The best explanation for homosexuality I have seen is that modern humans are a domesticated species. We “self – domesticated” when our ancestors began to practise agriculture.

Some domestic animals such as sheep apparently can show same – sex attraction among male animals, while wild sheep show no such phenomenon. Apparently homosexuality is largely unknown among hunter – gatherer tribes – they are the “wild” version of humanity.

This article was obviously written by a woman not having a clue about male sexuality by assuming that a man would rather resort to homosexuality than having sex with an ugly woman. Most men wouldn’t bother with either and if needed would masterbate.

Dear Tooth of a Corpse, aka High T-Loader :

I confess that I used “asexual” in an ignorant way since I naively believed it simply meant one who does not have sex with others.

After extensive research I learned that there 10 different kinds of asexuals,15 varieties of queers,18 categories of lesbians, 6 types of trannies and an infinite number of heterosexual practices.

To advance our knowledge I have taken on the job of pimping for a Professor of
Gender Studies and she-he-it-they is/are looking forward to meeting you for your first date.I need not caution you about your usual “I am the missionary and you are the native”routine.

Thank you for your service.

If homosexuality does not make sense given evolution… Then maybe the assumption of evolution is wrong.

The Theosophists, who believed in reincarnation, thought that we must each experience the full variety of human life: it’s good for the soul. If you are rich this time around, then in a future incarnation you might be poor, etc. (To be clear: you are not being punished for your sins.) By their logic, sometimes we are reborn as a man, sometimes as a woman.

They suggested that a man whose next life was destined to be that of a woman would already now have some feminine traits – possibly sexual attraction to another man. (Mutatis mutandis lesbianism)

Unscientific(!), but their approach does have a certain “poetic” charm.

Richard Nigma was a nerdy little creep hanging around Wayne Foundation Research Centre–spurned by Bruce Wayne –it forced him to turn into the Riddler —pink hair—green suit bedecked with black question marks —and those sun glasses !!!!

That’s impossible for men with high T loads. Boners must be appeased: choose not betwixt gay frolics and asexuality. If you’re currently sans woman stay home and masturbate to the mental picture of your favorite local media babe. The devil’s juice must be released to maintain a healthy prostate. Stay away from internet pornography for it has gotten ugly since the 1990s. Although if your love for Jesus prohibits you from self-pleasure turn on the computer and feast upon the hideous porno: it’s a sure-fire boner killer. Better than a dose of saltpeter.

/Jeung Freud

White males are the least likely to be gay/tranny/bisexual. It is mostly Latinos, Blacks, and Asian males who do that, especially in the younger cohorts.

On the other hand, white women are more likely to be transsexual/lesbian than Asian or Latina women.

So you have it the other way around. In the West, Asian/Latina women essentially own femininity while white men are the most cis-normative. White women and black women are equally deiant from traditional norms, probably because they are both considered too masculine and phsyically unattractive to be real women.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/addiction-in-society/201210/are-minority-men-more-likely-be-gay-why

“In short, minority men were more likely to assert an LGBT identity — young African-American and Latino American men approximately 50 percent more likely, and young Asian men about a quarter more — than young white men, while African-American women were only somewhat more likely to do so (12%) and Latino and Asian American women less likely.”

There are no degenerate races but there are dumb people
who judge others by their genome.

Nature will select whatever works.

I approve of your naturalistic approach to the issue, evolutionary biology will apply. You make many interesting points, too many to address properly in one go. A few things observations..

You mentioned the dominance thing, in a lot of species (eg dogs) a losing male will present his rear as a signal of surrender (think “OK, you win, I’m your bitch”) The winner will typically indulge in perfunctory ritual mounting behaviour (just to make the point) and then lose interest.

I was once informed that a fair proportion of gay men aren’t interested in anal sex so don’t give up hope.

So why are you gay? (I don’t believe that you are intersex, your mentality is very male) Did you have older brothers? (deconfliction mechanism?) Did you grow up in an urban setting (Population control mechanism?) My take is that something in your environment triggered your ‘don’t compete for females gene’ and that is that. Sexuality is not a choice (“Next week I’m going to be attracted to tall, thin, Japanese women”) you get what you are given, or in some instances, what is inflicted on you when you are too young to understand. It has always struck me that a rational heterosexual male would approve of any reduction in competition for the available women.

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God is the the most viscous relentless comedian in the Universe. If you haven’t figured that out then you are likely lost for all eternity.

There is no evolutionary stuff about homosexuality. It is cultural.
Many homosexuals have been molested as children.

AI can spot a homo by his facial features 85% of the time. Also, many homos have lisps.

Does being molested as a child turn your lips ‘gay’ and lend fruity expressions to your face?

Now, I do believe one can be ‘converted’ to homo stuff. We see it all over with explosion of various genders promoted by media and schools.

Still, there is clearly a difference between a natural toot and a converso toot.

Without conversionary pressures, the converso toots would be straight. But even minus such pressures(and even with anti-homo pressures), the natural toots will want to so bung-donging.

Given that choice most men would prefer to be asexual.

what you are describing is known as the snu snu.

attached is a documentary explaining the snu snu ritual:

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If homosexuality is purely genetic, there should paradoxically be more homos in repressively anti-homosexual cultures than in relatively permissive ones. Why? Because in a repressive social order that is highly anti-homosexual, homos are likely to remain in the closet, get married, and raise a family.

I’ve been making this point on Steve Sailer’s blog for years now. I know of one family with a late-life lesbian born during WWII. She was 14% of her generation, but produced over 20% of the next. Her gay nephew, born about a decade later, produced no children at all (unless he’s a sperm donor).

Gay lib may be eugenic!