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    My take on modern Star Trek compared to the old: Star Trek very much embodied what liberal American white males of the 1980s and 1990s thought the future would (or should) look like: secular, sexually liberated, humanistic, meritocratic, equitable, and technological – a man’s world, basically. In this world, religion plays practically no role in...
  • HAL_2000 says:
    June 2, 2020 at 10:58 pm GMT •ï¿½400 Words

    When I was so young that my feet barely cleared the couch cushions, I saw the first run of A Taste of Armageddon. Amazingly, it was in color, since it was on my uncle’s brand new color tv. We only had a black and white at home.

    But STAR TREK, (TOS) was very much a creature of its day. The characters could have been lifted from a Western (indeed, they hired a writer from Wild Wild West). The Captain and his men were manly men, to be watched and acknowledged as such of an audience of men who’d been to war, be it WWII or the Korean War, perhaps even Vietnam.

    The manner in which the men carried themselves, and even the women, could have been found in Wagon Train or Gunsmoke. No limp wrists or lisping allowed, save for an occasional comic foil.

    The females were all female, and the opposites were opposites and attracted.

    There was no political correctness, although Roddenberry considered himself to be pushing the envelope with things like the first TV interracial kiss. He stated that the show was basically an allegory of the Cold War that America was dealing with at the time.

    I noticed that Kirk would *negotiate* and/or bluff, such as in the Corbomite Maneuver, or By Any Other Name, and would express the philosophy that, sure, we could make war, but not today. The spinoffs would have more space battles than I ever recall happening in TOS, perhaps thinking that the special effects would make up for the paff that passes for dialog or a soggy story line.

    So the men were men in TOS, aside from some of the villains, like the Squire of Gothos, and others who were squishy and conniving, like Harry Mudd.

    Kirk was square jawed and manly. Mostly serious, as were his best friends, with humor reserved for the closing ten seconds of the show.

    But ALL subsequent spinoffs repelled me. All had the stink of the new political correctness on them. Like Mr. Atos, the Librarian, I found comfort in relieving the past in the form of reruns, rather than face the disappointing or nauseating present.

    After Kirk, Star Trek has been dead to me.

    And there I have left it.

  • The study found that 97.4% of men identified as heterosexual, 1.6% as homosexual and 0.9% as bisexual. For women 97.7% identified as heterosexual, 0.8% as lesbian and 1.4% as bisexual.

    https://factsandtrends.net/2019/04/15/how-many-americans-actually-identify-as-lgbt-less-than-you-think/

  • Dave Pinsen says: •ï¿½Website
    May 27, 2020 at 6:51 am GMT •ï¿½100 Words
    @Anonymous
    Star Trek lived and died with Gene Roddenberry. Its that simple.
    As long as he was the Executive Producer of TNG you could watch that show. Once Rick Berman took over, everything was screwed.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen

    TNG got much better in its later seasons, after Roddenberry was no longer involved. Similarly, the best Trek movie, Star Trek II, was hated by Roddenberry, who tried to sabotage it by leaking Spock’s death (Kirk’s line after Spock “dies” during the Kobayashi Maru simulation, “I thought you were dead”, was an allusion to this.).

  • @dvorak
    @Memehunter


    The Ferengi were caricatures of capitalism. ... I saw them as the first step toward destroying Gene Roddenberry’s humanist idealism.
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    Anti-Semitism had a long history in progressive WASP circles, which the Star Trek writing reflects. The history stopped when progessive Jews and progressive WASPs merged in their mores, culture and philosophy, in the mid-century time period.

    Whether you think that WASPs converted to Holocaustianity or that Jews converted to Quakerism, depends on how you read your Moldbug/Yarvin.

    Replies: @dvorak

    Anti-Semitism had a long history in progressive WASP circles, which the Star Trek writing reflects.

    Then there are the goblins in the Gringotts Wizarding Bank – Harry Potter books.

  • Lothric says:
    May 25, 2020 at 12:13 am GMT •ï¿½100 Words
    @Feric Jaggar
    @anarchyst

    A lot of terms Star Trek writers invented but 'ferengi' is a real word. It's Ethiopian and is used to describe white foreigners. It is thought the word is a derivation of 'Frank.'

    Replies: @Lothric

    I think it’s still clear the ferengi are meant to be Jewish. Perhaps it’s a play on the fact that many negative characteristics foreigners attribute to westerners actually stem from jews. For instance there is a Greek term still in use “ferengios” which basically means genuine trustworthiness. Which is what you would expect of genuine western races.

  • Anonymous[307] •ï¿½Disclaimer says:

    Star Trek lived and died with Gene Roddenberry. Its that simple.
    As long as he was the Executive Producer of TNG you could watch that show. Once Rick Berman took over, everything was screwed.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Anonymous

    TNG got much better in its later seasons, after Roddenberry was no longer involved. Similarly, the best Trek movie, Star Trek II, was hated by Roddenberry, who tried to sabotage it by leaking Spock's death (Kirk's line after Spock "dies" during the Kobayashi Maru simulation, "I thought you were dead", was an allusion to this.).
  • paranoid goy says: •ï¿½Website
    May 12, 2020 at 4:26 pm GMT •ï¿½200 Words
    @Moses
    @paranoid goy

    I really don't know where to begin on this idiotic comment.

    You do agree, the scarcity of a “collectable†does not influence its value, only the price.
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    Ermm...price is a measurement of value to someone? Is maybe that's just crazy talk.

    Marginal utility, if I read right, treats the change in value from UTILISATION, not scarcity?
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    "Marginal utility quantifies the added satisfaction a consumer garners from consuming additional units of goods or services."

    If an items is scarce then by definition you can't consume a lot of it and thus its marginal consumption value remains high. Diamonds and de Beers come to mind.

    Have you read Pirsig’s “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance� Difficult read, but it discusses the subject of Quality, from which all value flows. Internally consistent, of course.
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    Yes I read it. It sucked balls. Most overrated, worst written, most pretentious book I've read in my life.

    Replies: @paranoid goy

    As I said, you know not the difference between price and value. Then you use de Beers’ diamonds as an example. Oy, boy, de Beers sure have the monopoly on a scarce resource. That’s why half the armies in Africa are dying and killing for control of the diamond fields. Fields, the moment de Beers lose their military protection, diamonds will sell per kilo. Diamonds is the most idiotic, protected contraband mafia example you could possibly choose in my presence, I actually know first-hand about the “scarcity” of diamonds. From behind the barrel of a frigging gun!
    Just to be sure, de Beers has so much clout, they stopped the Russians from flooding the market about a decade ago…”Blood diamond” is any stone not sold via de Beers. Any.
    Then, of course, beyond making good drill points and abrasive tools, what is the value of a diamond? The price varies with many parameters, the value remains that of a drill bit.
    Price, my good man, is not value.
    You could. of course, use diamonds to attract a mate, and the higher price you pay, the fancier that mate may be. The value of someone that runs after diamonds, on the other hand…

  • Moses says:
    May 12, 2020 at 4:29 am GMT •ï¿½200 Words
    @paranoid goy
    @Moses

    Internal consistency of argument is a valued habit every keyboard philosopher should aspire to. You do agree, the scarcity of a "collectable" does not influence its value, only the price. I bet after a turkey dinner that leaves you bloated and pie-eyed, that very same chocolatey goodness will have severely diminished value. Maybe we are confusing 'value' with 'pleasure'?
    Going by the wiki on 'marginal utility', either you are being funny, or irrelevant to the issue at hand, namely your assertion that "scarcity brings value". Marginal utility, if I read right, treats the change in value from UTILISATION, not scarcity? Different issue altogether.
    Have you read Pirsig's "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"? Difficult read, but it discusses the subject of Quality, from which all value flows. Internally consistent, of course.

    Replies: @Moses

    I really don’t know where to begin on this idiotic comment.

    You do agree, the scarcity of a “collectable†does not influence its value, only the price.

    Ermm…price is a measurement of value to someone? Is maybe that’s just crazy talk.

    Marginal utility, if I read right, treats the change in value from UTILISATION, not scarcity?

    “Marginal utility quantifies the added satisfaction a consumer garners from consuming additional units of goods or services.”

    If an items is scarce then by definition you can’t consume a lot of it and thus its marginal consumption value remains high. Diamonds and de Beers come to mind.

    Have you read Pirsig’s “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance� Difficult read, but it discusses the subject of Quality, from which all value flows. Internally consistent, of course.

    Yes I read it. It sucked balls. Most overrated, worst written, most pretentious book I’ve read in my life.

    •ï¿½Replies: @paranoid goy
    @Moses

    As I said, you know not the difference between price and value. Then you use de Beers' diamonds as an example. Oy, boy, de Beers sure have the monopoly on a scarce resource. That's why half the armies in Africa are dying and killing for control of the diamond fields. Fields, the moment de Beers lose their military protection, diamonds will sell per kilo. Diamonds is the most idiotic, protected contraband mafia example you could possibly choose in my presence, I actually know first-hand about the "scarcity" of diamonds. From behind the barrel of a frigging gun!
    Just to be sure, de Beers has so much clout, they stopped the Russians from flooding the market about a decade ago..."Blood diamond" is any stone not sold via de Beers. Any.
    Then, of course, beyond making good drill points and abrasive tools, what is the value of a diamond? The price varies with many parameters, the value remains that of a drill bit.
    Price, my good man, is not value.
    You could. of course, use diamonds to attract a mate, and the higher price you pay, the fancier that mate may be. The value of someone that runs after diamonds, on the other hand...
  • @Jeff Stryker
    @trickster

    Sulu...

    Replies: @Sulu

    Got a problem with it?

    Sulu

  • Black Picard says: •ï¿½Website
    May 6, 2020 at 10:33 pm GMT •ï¿½100 Words

    Check this insightful review out, Guillaume. These fcuking Hollyweird soyboy “producers” just don’t know when to leave well alone. They’re ruined Star Trek!

    Why Star Trek Picard FAILED

    Video Link
    So, I won’t even bother to watch any of these new Star Trek series while I’m over here on the dark continent. I’ll just get my East African girlfriend into TNG since I have all the episodes. This will be my test to see if she’s wife material.

    If she likes it, we’re kool. If she doesn’t “get it”, then I’m fcuking showing her the door. Well, after a few more years of dating cuz she’s pretty hot. 😉

  • ” . . . minority of any population, biologically 3% or so.”

    This is a behavioral construct and no evidence it has a biological determinant.

    •ï¿½Agree: dfordoom
  • dvorak says:
    May 3, 2020 at 9:12 pm GMT •ï¿½100 Words
    @Memehunter
    @Realist

    The Ferengi were caricatures of capitalism. Their hundreds of "Rules of Acquisition" had some ethical elements along with pragmatic devices for getting the better of a deal. I saw them as the first step toward destroying Gene Roddenberry's humanist idealism. I am shocked to see that Patrick Stewart would agree to play the Picard character in this last disgraceful rendition. Sickening. I don't watch these shows.

    Replies: @dvorak

    The Ferengi were caricatures of capitalism. … I saw them as the first step toward destroying Gene Roddenberry’s humanist idealism.

    Anti-Semitism had a long history in progressive WASP circles, which the Star Trek writing reflects. The history stopped when progessive Jews and progressive WASPs merged in their mores, culture and philosophy, in the mid-century time period.

    Whether you think that WASPs converted to Holocaustianity or that Jews converted to Quakerism, depends on how you read your Moldbug/Yarvin.

    •ï¿½Replies: @dvorak
    @dvorak


    Anti-Semitism had a long history in progressive WASP circles, which the Star Trek writing reflects.
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    Then there are the goblins in the Gringotts Wizarding Bank - Harry Potter books.
  • @Bardon Kaldian
    @James J. O'Meara

    Could be. But- masculine & gay are not mutually exclusive.

    When speaking of homosexuals, men of course, I guess most people think nancy boys, fairies, feminization etc.

    But male homosexuality is, historically, also militaristic & brutal. Just think of elite units in ancient Greece (I think in Thebes, or Macedonia, I'm not sure); then Janissary corps in the Ottoman Empire (most of them homo), then Roehm's brown shirts in the 1930s Germany etc. etc.

    Among historical figures, Alexander the Great was certainly bisexual, while most Greek tyrants & military men were homos, as were many other masculine men (Cecil Rhodes, Kitchener, in all likelihood Richard Francis Burton..).

    So- Israelis, hetero & homo, are screwing Arabs big time. Literally.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory, @dvorak

    But male homosexuality is, historically, also militaristic & brutal.

    Don’t conflate that with being queer. Greek homosexuality was pretty weird by our lights, but it was practiced by the elite, i.e. biologically straight men. Queers are a small minority of any population, biologically 3% or so.

  • The posters and trailers for today’s films and TV series generally look awful to me. I occasionally give them a chance, against my better judgment, and find I have wasted my time. All these pope dramas and even Emir Kusturica’s documentary with Uruguayan President Peje Mujica: meh.[1] So I look to the past. I’ve recently...
  • @Seraphim
    @JKE

    Why Jews believe that everybody 'envy' them? But why would I envy the life of the atheist when I am not?

    Replies: @mary-lou

    because it is what we let them believe (why would anyone be envious of them anyway?).

  • My take on modern Star Trek compared to the old: Star Trek very much embodied what liberal American white males of the 1980s and 1990s thought the future would (or should) look like: secular, sexually liberated, humanistic, meritocratic, equitable, and technological – a man’s world, basically. In this world, religion plays practically no role in...
  • May 2, 2020 at 8:44 pm GMT •ï¿½100 Words
    @Realist
    @anarchyst


    I don’t know how the characterization of the Ferengi got past the jewish Hollywood censors.
    �
    Okay, but how do you account for the humongous ears?

    Replies: @anarchyst, @Memehunter

    The Ferengi were caricatures of capitalism. Their hundreds of “Rules of Acquisition” had some ethical elements along with pragmatic devices for getting the better of a deal. I saw them as the first step toward destroying Gene Roddenberry’s humanist idealism. I am shocked to see that Patrick Stewart would agree to play the Picard character in this last disgraceful rendition. Sickening. I don’t watch these shows.

    •ï¿½Replies: @dvorak
    @Memehunter


    The Ferengi were caricatures of capitalism. ... I saw them as the first step toward destroying Gene Roddenberry’s humanist idealism.
    �
    Anti-Semitism had a long history in progressive WASP circles, which the Star Trek writing reflects. The history stopped when progessive Jews and progressive WASPs merged in their mores, culture and philosophy, in the mid-century time period.

    Whether you think that WASPs converted to Holocaustianity or that Jews converted to Quakerism, depends on how you read your Moldbug/Yarvin.

    Replies: @dvorak
  • “Look forward to more of your incisive posts in the Christian Spirit.”

    How very generous . . .

  • @EliteCommInc.
    @SeekerofthePresence

    while I am ever careful regarding my fellows in Christ . . .


    your comments elicit no rebuttal from me.

    Replies: @SeekerofthePresence

    Your comments were very well stated.

    Should probably have addressed mine directly to dfordoom, but couldn’t resist responding to the classic, “Rainbow flags — Oy veh.â€

    Look forward to more of your incisive posts in the Christian Spirit.

  • @SeekerofthePresence
    @EliteCommInc.


    ðŸ³ï¸â€ðŸŒˆ
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    This is a meme promulgated by fake SJW churches and fake woke media.

    It has nothing to do with the Gospel of Christ or the Church created on Pentecost Sunday.

    Also, born-again Christians do not obscess over sin and guilt. They are freed from them through Christ's victory on the cross. “Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.†Matt. 11:28-30 NKJV

    âœï¸
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    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    while I am ever careful regarding my fellows in Christ . . .

    your comments elicit no rebuttal from me.

    •ï¿½Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
    @EliteCommInc.

    Your comments were very well stated.

    Should probably have addressed mine directly to dfordoom, but couldn't resist responding to the classic, “Rainbow flags — Oy veh.â€

    Look forward to more of your incisive posts in the Christian Spirit.
  • A little off topic but I learned an astounding fact a few months back- James Doohan “Scotty” was shot six times on D-Day.

  • @H. E.
    I enjoyed the article but there was one omission on the original series I'd like to correct. There were four main characters not three as Divine Right said. Those four represented the four parts of the human psyche according to Jung. I'm convinced this was intentional on Roddenberry's part.

    Spock was obviously the intellect. Bones, the doctor always reacted emotionally - so represents the emotions. Scotty ran the ship so he is the physical or body. Captain Kirk represents the spirit. In that light the Enterprise becomes the human psyche encountering life. Each episode represents a particular human experience.

    I learned this when I was watching the first season, and it gave a depth of meaning beyond just the adventure and technology. That's almost unique in a TV series.
    Captain Kirk always consulted with at least one of the other three before making any important decision. They disagreed, often intensely - especially Bones and Spock - but ultimately acted as a unit.

    The characters were consistent throughout the original series. I recommend watching a few episodes to see if you agree. To me that subtle meaning behind the adventure is the quality that got lost along the way.

    Replies: @Big Al

    Great observation.

  • @EliteCommInc.
    "Maybe I know too much about what it’s about. I know it isn’t always about sitting around the campfire singing Kumbaya. It isn’t always about putting up Refugees Welcome signs and flying Rainbow Flag . . . et al."


    Allow me to amend my earlier comment. It's very clear that you have no idea what Christianity is about.


    Rainbow flags --- Oy veh.

    Replies: @SeekerofthePresence

    ðŸ³ï¸â€ðŸŒˆ

    This is a meme promulgated by fake SJW churches and fake woke media.

    It has nothing to do with the Gospel of Christ or the Church created on Pentecost Sunday.

    Also, born-again Christians do not obscess over sin and guilt. They are freed from them through Christ’s victory on the cross. “Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.†Matt. 11:28-30 NKJV

    âœï¸

    •ï¿½Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @SeekerofthePresence

    while I am ever careful regarding my fellows in Christ . . .


    your comments elicit no rebuttal from me.

    Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
  • @EliteCommInc.
    "It’s not any better for black characters in movies. Progressive Hollywood writers are afraid to write real Black characters, with goals, flaws, emotions."


    Utterly and incompetently unaware of films as portrayed by and about blacks for the last 120 years. just nonsense.


    Get a grip what you see is that most blacks are not pimps, gangsters or anything you so desire be but negative stereotypes.


    Which is why the rhetoric regarding how to deal black liberals or blacks in general simply falls flat. But by all means keep importing Mexicans, Asians, Indians and everyone else will to siphon US value.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    Excuse me some clean up here.

    Get a grip what you see is that most blacks are not pimps, gangsters or anything you so desire be but negative stereotypes.

    Which is why the rhetoric regarding how to deal with black liberals or blacks in general simply falls flat. But by all means keep importing Mexicans, Asians, Indians and everyone else who will siphon US value.

    ———————————-

    Clearly a small percentage of blacks are: pimps, prostitutes, thieves, murderers and knaves of various varieties, as are whites, browns, yellows, reds, etc.

  • “It’s not any better for black characters in movies. Progressive Hollywood writers are afraid to write real Black characters, with goals, flaws, emotions.”

    Utterly and incompetently unaware of films as portrayed by and about blacks for the last 120 years. just nonsense.

    Get a grip what you see is that most blacks are not pimps, gangsters or anything you so desire be but negative stereotypes.

    Which is why the rhetoric regarding how to deal black liberals or blacks in general simply falls flat. But by all means keep importing Mexicans, Asians, Indians and everyone else will to siphon US value.

    •ï¿½Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @EliteCommInc.

    Excuse me some clean up here.

    Get a grip what you see is that most blacks are not pimps, gangsters or anything you so desire be but negative stereotypes.

    Which is why the rhetoric regarding how to deal with black liberals or blacks in general simply falls flat. But by all means keep importing Mexicans, Asians, Indians and everyone else who will siphon US value.


    ----------------------------------


    Clearly a small percentage of blacks are: pimps, prostitutes, thieves, murderers and knaves of various varieties, as are whites, browns, yellows, reds, etc.
  • Mr. Grey says:
    @Black Picard
    @Mr. Grey


    white males in any prominent role must follow the 3-C rule. The must be either Crippled (emotionally or physically), a Coward, or a Criminal.

    �
    Well, now you know how typical law abiding Main Street blacks feel about always being portrayed (for so long!) as pimps, slaves, janitors, drug dealers, gangster thugs, baby producing womanizers, wife beaters & physically strong ballers but intellectually challenged?

    Relax, it's just "make believe". No harm done...just "acting".
    Right? 👀🤔

    Replies: @Mr. Grey

    It’s not any better for black characters in movies. Progressive Hollywood writers are afraid to write real Black characters, with goals, flaws, emotions. It’s probably because they don’t know any. You don’t see the pimps and gangsters so much but now they are all magic negroes, living to help the white lead character navigate the choppy waters of life. We like characters that are complicated, have flaws, overcome failings, etc and portraying a black character that way could be taken a raaay-cist. A great recent example was The Invisible Man starring Elizabeth Moss. After running away from her abusive boyfriend she stays at the home of a black cop. He somehow is a close friend of hers, although we never learn why. We don’t learn much at all about him except he is a single dad with a smart teenage daughter, and he speaks just enough ghetto slang to show he’s authentic. Both of them seem to exist only to be there for Moss during her times of trouble. You would think he would be busy with his job as a cop and father, but somehow he is always there, immediately, whenever Moss is in trouble. It’s almost magical in a way.

  • @anobserver
    @Philip Owen

    Dear Mr. Owen,
    I am not familiar with the case of Mr. Hackborn. Would you please elaborate.
    Regards

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    Dick Hackborn was/is a long term HP engineer who knew the company inside out and backwards. His real contribution was to take HP into the computer business in the first place. He understood how the corporation worked. He then seemed to sit back and let the board make appointments based on political correctness rather than competence. Fiorina for example did not sem to understand that HP product divisions were profit centres rather than as AT&T, sales groups were profit centres. Fiorina also went for large acquisitions which were a total No No under Bill & Dave. HP became a rag bag of failing IT hardware companies with incompatible and multifarious products, operating systems and internal cultures supported by the printer division. The obvious choice to take over HP, Rick Belluzo, rightly left and was slightly later appointed COO of Microsoft. He delivered the X-Box. Belluzo was a keen soccer fan, hence HP sponsored soccer for a generation.

  • The posters and trailers for today’s films and TV series generally look awful to me. I occasionally give them a chance, against my better judgment, and find I have wasted my time. All these pope dramas and even Emir Kusturica’s documentary with Uruguayan President Peje Mujica: meh.[1] So I look to the past. I’ve recently...
  • Black Picard says: •ï¿½Website
    @SaneClownPosse
    @Max Payne

    "When I was a child I always wanted to grow up to be as uncompromising, wise, and honest (to oneself especially) as Picard. Sadly somewhere along the way I lost that path."

    That's because Picard is a fictional character, the path is also fictional. His words come through him, emanating from the writers, not from the depth of character of a real person.

    Replies: @Black Picard

    That’s because Picard is a fictional character, the path is also fictional. His words come through him, emanating from the writers, not from the depth of character of a real person.

    God damn it! You’ve pricked my bubble about Picard being a fictional character.

    All joking aside, I will say this…
    The writer who intimately created the persona of Captain Jean-Luc Picard on Star Trek TNG is obviously a remarkable person who has a great innate sense of humanity with a firm grounding in honesty, justice & integrity. You definitely don’t find such a rare combination in “real life” because, as I’ve said a zillion times, humans are easily (dangerously) corruptible.

    Heck, just look at the entire “Western” exceptional & allegedly “superior” AngloSaxon leadership Swamp. All treasonous, all supremely corruptible which has now put our planet in a destructive game of brinkmanship that is definitely leading us on a war path. That’s my point.

    IMHO, the closest person who exudes Captain Jean-Luc Picard’s remarkable leadership skills here on Earth is none other than Vladimir Putin. Fact! How ironic that he’s not an AngloSaxon but an Orthodox Christian Indo-European slav from Eurasia. I know a lot of brainwashed Western sheep will disagree with me on this, but I’m sticking to my assertion because actions speak louder than words.

    Therefore compare President Putin’s talk & actions vs. same for Obama, Bush Jr., Bill Clinton, Bush Sr., yes even Ronald Reagan. No comparison! In fact, you’d have to go all the way back to the original Founding Fathers who were incorruptible.

  • Black Picard says: •ï¿½Website
    @Max Payne
    TNG was good television. I still (re)watch episodes to this day. Gene Roddenberry just wanted a show where peoples daily BS is not the story. And it worked. No need for crocodile-tear emotions. Enjoy a one-and-done stage play. Everyone says Star Trek was about technobabbles but it wasn't, it was just to move the story along.

    When I was a child I always wanted to grow up to be as uncompromising, wise, and honest (to oneself especially) as Picard. Sadly somewhere along the way I lost that path.

    It's a real shame how terrible the movies and series of today are... the war between Star Trek and Star Wars ended in Mutually Assured Abrams. RIP.

    Replies: @SaneClownPosse, @Black Picard

    I always saw Star Wars as dark – always about evil & war, war, war. That’s probably why most of the confused sheeple prefer it to the always positive & enlightening Star Trek TNG series.

    In Captain Picard, I see a man who exudes a high level of integrity in a leadership role – unlike any persona I have ever seen or will ever see in my lifetime. His “Frenchness” is authentic, traditional & passionate – unlike what you see in the current crop of treasonous French leaders who are destroying France & French culture with suicidal dieversity. I’m looking at you Sarkozy, Hollande & Macron! You are all a disgrace to DeGaulle’s secular French society.

    Picard always upholds the Prime Directive (PD) – unlike today’s crop of warmongering exceptional “Western” leaders selected into power due to their innate corruptibility. Oh how I would love to borrow a Romulan Warbird for a few hours to sort out all of their treachery if u know what I mean. But that’s another story.

    As for Picard, he has no fear of going head to head against Star Fleet Admirals who disregard the PD. Do we see this in our “Western” Military leadership today with their resource meddling in Africa & the Middle East? Nope, I have a better chance spotting a pink unicorn!

    No doubt Patrick Stewart’s stage experience at the Royal Shakespeare Company in Stratford-upon-Avon gave him an unfair advantage when graduating to the big screen. He is the most polished quick-thinking & versatile Starfleet Captain you will ever meet. Even his most fearless adversaries respect him.

    Personally, I think Gene Roddenberry & the other producers were waaay ahead of their time in creating the Star Trek TNG series. You get a sense there’s a higher creative consciousness at play when watching TNG episodes. I wonder if this creativity was enhanced through the use of psychedelics like psilocybin (magic mushrooms).

    So you’ve got great character development combined with excellent screenplays which blends in perfectly with a remarkable mix of SciFi technologies that are plausible if humanity can stay alive for another 600 to 1200 years or so. Fat chance of that happening. We’re all going to die either via bioweapons, nuclear war or vaccinations.

    One of my favourite TNG episodes, by far, is The Nth Degree (season 4, episode 19) where Barclay temporarily becomes a super-genius due to an accident, attaches himself to the ship’s computer & is guided 30,000 light years by a distant alien explorer race (The Cytherians) who want to exchange knowledge with Starfleet. The imagination in this episode is out of this world – literally. See if u can watch the entire episode & scroll to the point where Barclay creates a subspace inversion catapulting the Enterprise across great distances faster than warp travel. Really kool stuff.
    Captain Picard, as usual, is fantastic in this episode. Arguably one of the greatest actors of our time in a leadership role.


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  • My take on modern Star Trek compared to the old: Star Trek very much embodied what liberal American white males of the 1980s and 1990s thought the future would (or should) look like: secular, sexually liberated, humanistic, meritocratic, equitable, and technological – a man’s world, basically. In this world, religion plays practically no role in...
  • Black Picard says: •ï¿½Website

    The show’s lead is a black woman who’s the best at everything, acts bizarrely hostile towards the crew and later berates the male commanding officer, captain Pike,,,

    Wow, Star Trek has definitely gone downhill. I prefer my good ol’ TNG series. I’m shocked Patrick Stewart would ruin his amazing Captain Jean-Luc Picard persona with this crap. Must be Dementia.

    Note how the SJW/ZioPress media has done a remarkable job at fracturing the black male/black female bond by deliberately elevating the always feisty bossy independent black woman on a greater scale while encouraging an “I don’t need a man!” ethos which creates friction & disunity in the troubled black community. So what happens next?

    Well, today’s educated career black woman – feeling empowered – believes she can raise black male kids all by her lonesome self cuz she’s been brainwashed to think that “I’m strong, I don’t need a man!” Fast forward 14 years later & a majority of these fatherless teen black males are growing up in dysfunctional conditions with momma going through many unstable relationships while “baby boy” is being influenced by the most destructive form of ghetto Hip Hop/Rap culture in existence.

    I’d wager that this new pro-SJW Star Trek Discovery series has a bigger black female audience compared to TNG thanks to the perfect sista, Michael Burnham. End result is that black males will most likely find black women more intolerable which will probably lead them right into the arms of white or Aisan women who, well, are not as bossy as the stereotypical black woman. So society is definitely getting “programmed” whether one wants to believe it or not.

  • Black Picard says: •ï¿½Website
    @Mr. Grey
    From what I've noticed in the past few years, white males in any prominent role must follow the 3-C rule. The must be either Crippled (emotionally or physically), a Coward, or a Criminal.

    Replies: @endthefed, @Black Picard

    white males in any prominent role must follow the 3-C rule. The must be either Crippled (emotionally or physically), a Coward, or a Criminal.

    Well, now you know how typical law abiding Main Street blacks feel about always being portrayed (for so long!) as pimps, slaves, janitors, drug dealers, gangster thugs, baby producing womanizers, wife beaters & physically strong ballers but intellectually challenged?

    Relax, it’s just “make believe”. No harm done…just “acting”.
    Right? 👀🤔

    •ï¿½Replies: @Mr. Grey
    @Black Picard

    It’s not any better for black characters in movies. Progressive Hollywood writers are afraid to write real Black characters, with goals, flaws, emotions. It’s probably because they don’t know any. You don’t see the pimps and gangsters so much but now they are all magic negroes, living to help the white lead character navigate the choppy waters of life. We like characters that are complicated, have flaws, overcome failings, etc and portraying a black character that way could be taken a raaay-cist. A great recent example was The Invisible Man starring Elizabeth Moss. After running away from her abusive boyfriend she stays at the home of a black cop. He somehow is a close friend of hers, although we never learn why. We don’t learn much at all about him except he is a single dad with a smart teenage daughter, and he speaks just enough ghetto slang to show he’s authentic. Both of them seem to exist only to be there for Moss during her times of trouble. You would think he would be busy with his job as a cop and father, but somehow he is always there, immediately, whenever Moss is in trouble. It’s almost magical in a way.
  • Ferengi were supposed to represent ‘capitalism.’

    Roddenberry was no stranger to Chosenism.

    https://trekmovie.com/2008/06/02/shatner-roddenberry-was-a-chiseler/

  • “Maybe I know too much about what it’s about. I know it isn’t always about sitting around the campfire singing Kumbaya. It isn’t always about putting up Refugees Welcome signs and flying Rainbow Flag . . . et al.”

    Allow me to amend my earlier comment. It’s very clear that you have no idea what Christianity is about.

    Rainbow flags — Oy veh.

    •ï¿½Replies: @SeekerofthePresence
    @EliteCommInc.


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    This is a meme promulgated by fake SJW churches and fake woke media.

    It has nothing to do with the Gospel of Christ or the Church created on Pentecost Sunday.

    Also, born-again Christians do not obscess over sin and guilt. They are freed from them through Christ's victory on the cross. “Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.†Matt. 11:28-30 NKJV

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    Replies: @EliteCommInc.
  • paranoid goy says: •ï¿½Website
    @SFG
    @James J. O'Meara

    It's entirely possible for Israel to be relatively masculine, given that they have to fight wars, and for American Jews to be unmasculine, given that they don't.

    Replies: @Gross Terry, @paranoid goy

    Yep, the Israeli army sure is a manly bunch…
    It is also a fact that every army is well populated by erm… people unsure about their gender projection? Shiny buttons on tailored uniforms, and they give you a big gun! Imagine living amongst hundreds, thousands of glistening young physiques, for pay, and you get to kill lesser shits, too. The little boys polishing armour and sweeping the campaign tent is also a standard feature of military bases.
    I think it’s on this thread that someone mentioned the abhorrent levels of domestic violence amongst lesbians? It is no different between queers, let me tell you, the poor things. That may explain the barbaric brutality of the average IDF gunmonkey. The need to prove your manhood can overwhelm your human-hood, it seems.

  • paranoid goy says: •ï¿½Website
    @Moses
    @paranoid goy


    Like most people, Moses over there is unsure about the difference between price and value?

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    Oh brother. You guys sound like spergy libertarians.

    Of course you must value a thing for it to have any value, fer cryin’ out loud.

    Scarcity of a thing increases the value you place on each marginal unit. Abundance decreases it.

    Marginal utility. Look it up.

    I don’t value scarce toy collectibles because I don’t give a crap about toy collectibles in the first place. I do value a fine day more than when I lived in CA because there are far fewer of them where I live now.

    Replies: @paranoid goy

    Internal consistency of argument is a valued habit every keyboard philosopher should aspire to. You do agree, the scarcity of a “collectable” does not influence its value, only the price. I bet after a turkey dinner that leaves you bloated and pie-eyed, that very same chocolatey goodness will have severely diminished value. Maybe we are confusing ‘value’ with ‘pleasure’?
    Going by the wiki on ‘marginal utility’, either you are being funny, or irrelevant to the issue at hand, namely your assertion that “scarcity brings value”. Marginal utility, if I read right, treats the change in value from UTILISATION, not scarcity? Different issue altogether.
    Have you read Pirsig’s “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance”? Difficult read, but it discusses the subject of Quality, from which all value flows. Internally consistent, of course.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Moses
    @paranoid goy

    I really don't know where to begin on this idiotic comment.

    You do agree, the scarcity of a “collectable†does not influence its value, only the price.
    �
    Ermm...price is a measurement of value to someone? Is maybe that's just crazy talk.

    Marginal utility, if I read right, treats the change in value from UTILISATION, not scarcity?
    �
    "Marginal utility quantifies the added satisfaction a consumer garners from consuming additional units of goods or services."

    If an items is scarce then by definition you can't consume a lot of it and thus its marginal consumption value remains high. Diamonds and de Beers come to mind.

    Have you read Pirsig’s “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance� Difficult read, but it discusses the subject of Quality, from which all value flows. Internally consistent, of course.
    �
    Yes I read it. It sucked balls. Most overrated, worst written, most pretentious book I've read in my life.

    Replies: @paranoid goy
  • Sunshine says:
    @Jedi Night
    @A123

    I'm giving DS9 a try right now. I agree with you, I really like it so far. Brings back a bit of the raw passion of TOS.

    I'm less of a fan of TNG and Voyager. I find them enjoyable but a bit too intellectual.

    Heroes and Icons free digital channel has a star trek marathon every night.

    Replies: @Sunshine

    DS9 is my favorite Star Trek series. It really is extremely well done. Gul Dukat is one of, if not the best, villain of all time. Watching him is just sublime. Wait til you get to the later seasons, with the Dominion War and other stuff (hopefully won’t spoiler anything by mentioning that!).

    I think it’s the perfect mix of action, traditional Star Trek values, and interesting, but not overly emotional or agenda pushing, character development. And I say this as a person that isn’t a big media consumer, but I do love Star Trek. Haven’t watched any of the new shows since Enterprise, which was terrible. It’s sad how much worse it’s gotten. Not that I’d watch it, but Andrew Anglin does some interesting reviews on “Picardâ€, so I know more than I need to know. It’s a real shame but not surprising, that they ruined it. Anyways, hope you enjoy DS9!

  • dfordoom says: •ï¿½Website
    @EliteCommInc.
    "And we certainly don’t need a morality based on Christianity, constantly obsessing about sin and guilt."


    Laugh.


    just a word:


    Christianity obsesses about sin, guilt, accountability, forgiveness, multiple chances and grace, avoiding sin and


    always, always about redemption, hope and love in this and the next


    Justin case because your comments suggests that you don't really know why Christianity or what christianity is about.


    you're not alone . . . in your misconceptions

    Replies: @dfordoom

    Just in case because your comments suggests that you don’t really know why Christianity or what christianity is about.

    Maybe I know too much about what it’s about. I know it isn’t always about sitting around the campfire singing Kumbaya. It isn’t always about putting up Refugees Welcome signs and flying Rainbow Flags. It has an excessively nice caring and sharing side (which can be disastrous) and an excessively nasty side (which can be disastrous). It’s an emotion-driven religion. And emotions can drive people to be Mother Theresas or Torquemadas. Emotions can drive people to be too forgiving, or rigidly unforgiving.

    A highly developed sense of sin can make one person humble, and it can make another person a merciless persecutor. It can make one person want to clasp sinners to his bosom and make another want to kindle a fire to burn those sinners.

  • dfordoom says: •ï¿½Website
    @Dumbo
    @dfordoom


    And we certainly don’t need a morality based on Christianity, constantly obsessing about sin and guilt.
    �
    Glad to know that you know "what we need" better than ~2,000 years of European history...

    "Guilt and sin", like the poor, will always be with us and predate Christianity.

    I think we just forgot what we knew before, and we are very slowly relearning it.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    And we certainly don’t need a morality based on Christianity, constantly obsessing about sin and guilt.

    Glad to know that you know “what we need†better than ~2,000 years of European history…

    It’s easy to have romantic notions about the past. It’s also easy, living today in a world of degeneracy and excess and self-indulgence, to have romantic notions about how wonderful it must have been to live in a Christian society.

    The fact is that none of us today have any actual experience of living in a society based rigidly on Christian moral values. We haven’t lived in a society in which Christians have actually had the power to impose their values by force. But history does teach us that Christians have been pretty keen on imposing their moral values by force. I’m suggesting that the reality of such societies was probably not all that pleasant. And at times very unpleasant indeed.

    And since Christians have not had that kind of power for a long time it’s easy to make the mistake of assuming that Christianity would never go back to being a persecuting religion. I’m not convinced. History also teaches us that if you give any group of people the power to persecute others they’ll grab that chance with both hands.

    Modern Christianity seems warm and friendly and cuddly because it’s powerless. Christians are no trouble as long as they don’t have any real power. But I’ve seen Christians right here on UR express enthusiasm for social policies that the 17th century Puritans would have considered extreme. Christianity has a very dark side to it.

    If Christians want to live by Christian moral values that’s fine by me. But I don’t want them to impose those values on everyone else. Which they have a long track record of doing.

  • Moses says:
    @paranoid goy
    @dfordoom

    Like most people, Moses over there is unsure about the difference between price and value? Scarcity may move the price, but the value of that thing remains the exact (subjective) same. A 4-pound hammer will crush your skull no matter what price you paid for it, see? Very important distinction that, value versus price.

    Replies: @Moses

    Like most people, Moses over there is unsure about the difference between price and value?

    Oh brother. You guys sound like spergy libertarians.

    Of course you must value a thing for it to have any value, fer cryin’ out loud.

    Scarcity of a thing increases the value you place on each marginal unit. Abundance decreases it.

    Marginal utility. Look it up.

    I don’t value scarce toy collectibles because I don’t give a crap about toy collectibles in the first place. I do value a fine day more than when I lived in CA because there are far fewer of them where I live now.

    •ï¿½Replies: @paranoid goy
    @Moses

    Internal consistency of argument is a valued habit every keyboard philosopher should aspire to. You do agree, the scarcity of a "collectable" does not influence its value, only the price. I bet after a turkey dinner that leaves you bloated and pie-eyed, that very same chocolatey goodness will have severely diminished value. Maybe we are confusing 'value' with 'pleasure'?
    Going by the wiki on 'marginal utility', either you are being funny, or irrelevant to the issue at hand, namely your assertion that "scarcity brings value". Marginal utility, if I read right, treats the change in value from UTILISATION, not scarcity? Different issue altogether.
    Have you read Pirsig's "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"? Difficult read, but it discusses the subject of Quality, from which all value flows. Internally consistent, of course.

    Replies: @Moses
  • a_german [AKA "a_german_"] says:

    Problem is you cant send an endless row of remakes without boring the fans. So you must take what modern times will give you. FemoNazis and ecologyfacists.

    Next the Enterprise is driven with wind, biogas and solar energy.

    And with Cpt. Greta Kørk.

    It’s astounding
    Time is fleeting
    Madness takes it’s toll

    But listen closely
    Not for very much longer
    I’ve got to keep control

    Let’s do the time-warp again

    Rocky Horror

  • The posters and trailers for today’s films and TV series generally look awful to me. I occasionally give them a chance, against my better judgment, and find I have wasted my time. All these pope dramas and even Emir Kusturica’s documentary with Uruguayan President Peje Mujica: meh.[1] So I look to the past. I’ve recently...
  • @Dave Bowman
    @S

    UMMmm... Yes, she's gorgeous, of course. But she can't compare to my only true love from the original series:

    https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/5/53/Janice_Rand%2C_2266.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20170129025140&path-prefix=en

    Replies: @Milesglorious

    She was as they said back in the day a knockout.She also was the only one that wasn’t a officer.

  • My take on modern Star Trek compared to the old: Star Trek very much embodied what liberal American white males of the 1980s and 1990s thought the future would (or should) look like: secular, sexually liberated, humanistic, meritocratic, equitable, and technological – a man’s world, basically. In this world, religion plays practically no role in...
  • “And we certainly don’t need a morality based on Christianity, constantly obsessing about sin and guilt.”

    Laugh.

    just a word:

    Christianity obsesses about sin, guilt, accountability, forgiveness, multiple chances and grace, avoiding sin and

    always, always about redemption, hope and love in this and the next

    Justin case because your comments suggests that you don’t really know why Christianity or what christianity is about.

    you’re not alone . . . in your misconceptions

    •ï¿½Replies: @dfordoom
    @EliteCommInc.


    Just in case because your comments suggests that you don’t really know why Christianity or what christianity is about.
    �
    Maybe I know too much about what it's about. I know it isn't always about sitting around the campfire singing Kumbaya. It isn't always about putting up Refugees Welcome signs and flying Rainbow Flags. It has an excessively nice caring and sharing side (which can be disastrous) and an excessively nasty side (which can be disastrous). It's an emotion-driven religion. And emotions can drive people to be Mother Theresas or Torquemadas. Emotions can drive people to be too forgiving, or rigidly unforgiving.

    A highly developed sense of sin can make one person humble, and it can make another person a merciless persecutor. It can make one person want to clasp sinners to his bosom and make another want to kindle a fire to burn those sinners.
  • Dumbo says:
    @dfordoom
    @Dumbo


    What you need is a return to a more traditional morality
    �
    Sort of, although traditional morality could be pretty unpleasant. People have a lot of romantic notions about how great traditional societies were. They were actually in most cases pretty miserable.

    I think something halfway between the morality of the Victorian era and the post-Sexual Revolution morality is what is needed. Not a free-for-all of indulgence and excess, but not pious moralising and rigidity either.

    And we certainly don't need a morality based on Christianity, constantly obsessing about sin and guilt.

    Maybe the 1920s weren't too bad. And the early 60s. Most people got married and had kids but those who wanted casual sex or open marriages or wanted to cohabit without marriage could do so as long as they were fairly discreet about it and didn't rub other people's noses in it. One-size-fits-all moral systems don't work because one size doesn't fit all.

    Also, it seems that the sexual revolution today morphed into digital/virtual sex, and we will eventually get into robot sex, etc. So the tendency is that we will have more simulations of sex, and less real sex.
    �
    Social media and internet addiction, and smartphones, have probably been more harmful than the Sexual Revolution. Social media needs to die.

    Replies: @Dumbo

    And we certainly don’t need a morality based on Christianity, constantly obsessing about sin and guilt.

    Glad to know that you know “what we need” better than ~2,000 years of European history…

    “Guilt and sin”, like the poor, will always be with us and predate Christianity.

    I think we just forgot what we knew before, and we are very slowly relearning it.

    •ï¿½Replies: @dfordoom
    @Dumbo



    And we certainly don’t need a morality based on Christianity, constantly obsessing about sin and guilt.
    �
    Glad to know that you know “what we need†better than ~2,000 years of European history…
    �
    It's easy to have romantic notions about the past. It's also easy, living today in a world of degeneracy and excess and self-indulgence, to have romantic notions about how wonderful it must have been to live in a Christian society.

    The fact is that none of us today have any actual experience of living in a society based rigidly on Christian moral values. We haven't lived in a society in which Christians have actually had the power to impose their values by force. But history does teach us that Christians have been pretty keen on imposing their moral values by force. I'm suggesting that the reality of such societies was probably not all that pleasant. And at times very unpleasant indeed.

    And since Christians have not had that kind of power for a long time it's easy to make the mistake of assuming that Christianity would never go back to being a persecuting religion. I'm not convinced. History also teaches us that if you give any group of people the power to persecute others they'll grab that chance with both hands.

    Modern Christianity seems warm and friendly and cuddly because it's powerless. Christians are no trouble as long as they don't have any real power. But I've seen Christians right here on UR express enthusiasm for social policies that the 17th century Puritans would have considered extreme. Christianity has a very dark side to it.

    If Christians want to live by Christian moral values that's fine by me. But I don't want them to impose those values on everyone else. Which they have a long track record of doing.
  • dfordoom says: •ï¿½Website
    @Dumbo
    @dfordoom


    It’s also possible that too many incels is as socially harmful as too many promiscuous people.
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    Incels and promiscuity are really just two sides of the same coin. With the destruction of general monogamy, you get more promiscuity for some, and inceldom for others.

    What you need is a return to a more traditional morality, only within which "liberation" makes any sense anyway (what's the point of "sexual liberation" if nothing is frowned upon, what's the point of a "bacchanalia" if you don't have a rigid moral structure on the other days).

    Also, it seems that the sexual revolution today morphed into digital/virtual sex, and we will eventually get into robot sex, etc. So the tendency is that we will have more simulations of sex, and less real sex.

    The world post-corona is going to have even less sex and romance than ever.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    What you need is a return to a more traditional morality

    Sort of, although traditional morality could be pretty unpleasant. People have a lot of romantic notions about how great traditional societies were. They were actually in most cases pretty miserable.

    I think something halfway between the morality of the Victorian era and the post-Sexual Revolution morality is what is needed. Not a free-for-all of indulgence and excess, but not pious moralising and rigidity either.

    And we certainly don’t need a morality based on Christianity, constantly obsessing about sin and guilt.

    Maybe the 1920s weren’t too bad. And the early 60s. Most people got married and had kids but those who wanted casual sex or open marriages or wanted to cohabit without marriage could do so as long as they were fairly discreet about it and didn’t rub other people’s noses in it. One-size-fits-all moral systems don’t work because one size doesn’t fit all.

    Also, it seems that the sexual revolution today morphed into digital/virtual sex, and we will eventually get into robot sex, etc. So the tendency is that we will have more simulations of sex, and less real sex.

    Social media and internet addiction, and smartphones, have probably been more harmful than the Sexual Revolution. Social media needs to die.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Dumbo
    @dfordoom


    And we certainly don’t need a morality based on Christianity, constantly obsessing about sin and guilt.
    �
    Glad to know that you know "what we need" better than ~2,000 years of European history...

    "Guilt and sin", like the poor, will always be with us and predate Christianity.

    I think we just forgot what we knew before, and we are very slowly relearning it.

    Replies: @dfordoom
  • Hollywood has degenerated into garbage. There isn’t a single TV show I can watch anymore; they all look and sound the same. Lots of worthless dialogue that has nothing to do with the plot. Every hour-long show has a half-hour of such gibberish. They should go back to half-hour dramas. But no, they keep churning out 60-minute doctor, cop and lawyer shows (now firemen, too) despite the fact that they have been done a thousand times in the past, and (some) were far better than today’s crop of crap. Movies suck, too. There are perhaps five worth watching in a given year (and action trash like anything Marvel are not worth a nickel). Millennial morons are the target audience, so they have become the chuckleheads in charge.

  • @SFG
    @James J. O'Meara

    It's entirely possible for Israel to be relatively masculine, given that they have to fight wars, and for American Jews to be unmasculine, given that they don't.

    Replies: @Gross Terry, @paranoid goy

    Israel has to fight wars? Didn’t get the news they finally deployed to Iraq.

  • Dumbo says:
    @dfordoom
    @Feryl


    WRT sex, all the evidence indicates that the fewer people you screw, the better off you are psychologically .
    �
    But is there hard evidence? Also bear in mind that people vary.

    It was disastrous medically, socially, psychologically, etc.
    �
    Again, actual objective evidence is required.

    Look, you're probably right. But the problem for social conservatives is that they lack the hard objective evidence to back their case. Proving psychological harm is difficult. Proving social harm is incredibly difficult.

    I'm inclined to think that it's a matter of balance. The Sexual Revolution may have been a positive thing, up to a point. Some loosening of sexual morals may have been healthy. It just went too far. I'm also inclined to think that being an incel is probably just as psychologically unhealthy as being promiscuous. It's also possible that too many incels is as socially harmful as too many promiscuous people.

    The waters have been muddied by the current trend towards irrational generational hatred. As far as some Millennials are concerned everything the Boomers did was wrong and bad (even though it was the Silent Generation that was responsible for the Sexual Revolution). So sex is bad because it's a Boomer thing. And some Boomers are inclined to simply despise Millennials as whiny snowflakes.

    I personally think Millennials just need to drop their smartphones in the trash can and go outside and get some sunshine. I think social media may have done a lot more harm than the 1960s/1970s Sexual Revolution.

    But hard evidence on any of these points is in short supply.

    Replies: @Dumbo

    It’s also possible that too many incels is as socially harmful as too many promiscuous people.

    Incels and promiscuity are really just two sides of the same coin. With the destruction of general monogamy, you get more promiscuity for some, and inceldom for others.

    What you need is a return to a more traditional morality, only within which “liberation” makes any sense anyway (what’s the point of “sexual liberation” if nothing is frowned upon, what’s the point of a “bacchanalia” if you don’t have a rigid moral structure on the other days).

    Also, it seems that the sexual revolution today morphed into digital/virtual sex, and we will eventually get into robot sex, etc. So the tendency is that we will have more simulations of sex, and less real sex.

    The world post-corona is going to have even less sex and romance than ever.

    •ï¿½Replies: @dfordoom
    @Dumbo


    What you need is a return to a more traditional morality
    �
    Sort of, although traditional morality could be pretty unpleasant. People have a lot of romantic notions about how great traditional societies were. They were actually in most cases pretty miserable.

    I think something halfway between the morality of the Victorian era and the post-Sexual Revolution morality is what is needed. Not a free-for-all of indulgence and excess, but not pious moralising and rigidity either.

    And we certainly don't need a morality based on Christianity, constantly obsessing about sin and guilt.

    Maybe the 1920s weren't too bad. And the early 60s. Most people got married and had kids but those who wanted casual sex or open marriages or wanted to cohabit without marriage could do so as long as they were fairly discreet about it and didn't rub other people's noses in it. One-size-fits-all moral systems don't work because one size doesn't fit all.

    Also, it seems that the sexual revolution today morphed into digital/virtual sex, and we will eventually get into robot sex, etc. So the tendency is that we will have more simulations of sex, and less real sex.
    �
    Social media and internet addiction, and smartphones, have probably been more harmful than the Sexual Revolution. Social media needs to die.

    Replies: @Dumbo
  • @EliteCommInc.
    "By the way, Asians (Eastern Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese, among others) have higher IQ than the –now-lowered– mean in the U.S., and what I have seen in high-tech, is that they usually deserve the promotions; Their temperament is another matter. As always, there are exceptions."

    Laugh. There have always been exceptions. Those exceptions are the rule. And a look at history regarding technical expertise will clear this matter, because thousands of skilled blacks could not even apply for positions in which they had skills qualifying them for posts. In fact, the country had no small number of riots when skilled blacks were hired and promoted. I hate to bring up those issues, but even I was unaware until some years ago, just how warped the system is ----

    But that aside, the harping about meritocracy now being expressed because in the view of some those getting handed tickets are not white . . . just does not carry that much weight with me. Either the person hire can do the best job in said environment or they cannot . . . In the technical fields by definition, the skill set for such tests are more acute. But I can tell what the record demonstrates is that among the skilled blacks had have twice or more the expertise for any given position compare to their white counter parts -- male or female. And the current environment - with varying degrees of intensity has very little to do with blacks --- but the press by white women, who hijacked and bastardized whatever AA was to suppose to look like and accomplish in it conception. Sure standards were lowered but contrary to the mantra -- they were lowered to accommodate white women -- there just aren't any tales of blacks breaking out in tears over lectures about disparity -- but white women have certainly made their worries, fears and conniption fits weapons of economic warfare. And let's be honest they have used those weapons against blacks more than their white counterparts and leveraged all the worst false images about blacks, especially black men to do so. And white men have been all too happy to oblige --- meritocracy indeed.

    Good grief, even Gen George Washington was a claim jumper if one wants to bandy about the breakdown of the meritocracy. Well liked, respected, ambitious . . . skilled ---- well, certainly not as a military commander.

    Considering the demographics of whites, the play should have been obvious, there are more white liberals and feminists and would be pretend conservative white women posing as 'whatevers' than there are for the entire black population. look, I support a merit based system, but I m not going to pretend for one minute that the country has held that as the a norm without the deep traditions of interplay for some other avenues.

    I would encourage you to the reading I suggested, even as reference material . . . the original systems for redress of violating the supposed merit based system you opine was not based on quotas for employment, that was all the machinations of white intellectuals and businesses who wanted a way out the historical model that demonstrated that had violated the law regarding equal access standards of equal opportunity when it dealing with minority populations namely two blacks and native americans . . . in reality brown hispanics had far fewer hurdles. In short a little bit if research uncovered that those population we out an out denied opportunity. The quota did not demand they be hired -- though we have used that reasoning -- it is entirely false. Nor did it demand that standards be lowered another false narrative. But upon looking at the civil rights legislation, the move intended to kill it did just the opposite, by adding women, it provided an escape and as the establishment does when it is soon to be held account -- used that as an escape valve for the historical discrimination --- by including women, the government and the private sector could consider white women as a "protected class" and could still dismiss blacks, which explains why white women corner the numbers when it comes to AA, the net avenue of escape of course has been to employ those who choose same sex expression --- coming out has actually befitted the government and businesses, because they could now lay claim to being nondiscriminatory ----

    Ohhh tis a tangle web . . . . indeed.

    Furthermore, the assumption that said systems are employing less qualified because some examples appear that way --- I really cannot respond to. In the eighties and ninties, there was a huge shift by women to focus on environment to accommodate the female perspective . . . uhhh, needless to say

    black men and the long standing press about how one should fear them become primary targets for the hostile environment workspaces -- despite the white women hear me "roar" hallmark signature game rape stats ---- there's a golden olden played back some 600 years, still at work as background, crime stats, crime news, An nothing could be as valued as the Bell Curve a mishmash of very poor modeling using South African social structure --- something I only recently considered but a smash hit if want to play the color card, bad modeling, poorly constructed testing . . . withstanding -- so before i hop on the bandwagon, I hope you will excuse my dabble into reality.

    Speaking of IQ, I found it deeply interesting that you equate IQ with skill, experience, culture or having any relationship to nationality. Dr. Einstein was a wonder, but I understand, he could find central park without a guide. You bemoan the state of the country's employment, apparently clueless as to which populations are introducing the dissipation of what it means to be a US citizen.

    It is frightening listening to people on my side of the aisle. With increasing frequency they are embracing the very practices that lead to the conditions an practices they express concern about. You think for one minute importing an Asian, or anyone else you claim of superior IQ is going to preserve the country.

    I have news for you, this country was forged by people of very low IQs' IQ does not translate into national identity. In fact those cultures you want to import have as the base of their civilizations, the very base the country -- the US fought to reject -- a system base on class and castes systems.

    Ohhhh well . . . ,

    at least its on the record. There will be no mistaking what happened an how or why.

    Goodness gracious me ohh my.


    -------------------------------

    "By the way, Asians (Eastern Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese, among others) have higher IQ than the –now-lowered– mean in the U.S.,"


    Don't hedge, they are considered to have always had an IQ above the US whatever the mean . . .


    An yet, we remain in the superior position ---- this may be on the wane ----- but that wane to reverse that reality has a long way to go. Pretty simple this,


    US citizens first . . . in my view.

    Replies: @EliteCommInc.

    One should at least have the wherewithal to long for Brits — they are after all, they are our natural cultural cousins as to nationhood.

    God save the Queen . . .

  • “By the way, Asians (Eastern Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese, among others) have higher IQ than the –now-lowered– mean in the U.S., and what I have seen in high-tech, is that they usually deserve the promotions; Their temperament is another matter. As always, there are exceptions.”

    Laugh. There have always been exceptions. Those exceptions are the rule. And a look at history regarding technical expertise will clear this matter, because thousands of skilled blacks could not even apply for positions in which they had skills qualifying them for posts. In fact, the country had no small number of riots when skilled blacks were hired and promoted. I hate to bring up those issues, but even I was unaware until some years ago, just how warped the system is —-

    [MORE]

    But that aside, the harping about meritocracy now being expressed because in the view of some those getting handed tickets are not white . . . just does not carry that much weight with me. Either the person hire can do the best job in said environment or they cannot . . . In the technical fields by definition, the skill set for such tests are more acute. But I can tell what the record demonstrates is that among the skilled blacks had have twice or more the expertise for any given position compare to their white counter parts — male or female. And the current environment – with varying degrees of intensity has very little to do with blacks — but the press by white women, who hijacked and bastardized whatever AA was to suppose to look like and accomplish in it conception. Sure standards were lowered but contrary to the mantra — they were lowered to accommodate white women — there just aren’t any tales of blacks breaking out in tears over lectures about disparity — but white women have certainly made their worries, fears and conniption fits weapons of economic warfare. And let’s be honest they have used those weapons against blacks more than their white counterparts and leveraged all the worst false images about blacks, especially black men to do so. And white men have been all too happy to oblige — meritocracy indeed.

    Good grief, even Gen George Washington was a claim jumper if one wants to bandy about the breakdown of the meritocracy. Well liked, respected, ambitious . . . skilled —- well, certainly not as a military commander.

    Considering the demographics of whites, the play should have been obvious, there are more white liberals and feminists and would be pretend conservative white women posing as ‘whatevers’ than there are for the entire black population. look, I support a merit based system, but I m not going to pretend for one minute that the country has held that as the a norm without the deep traditions of interplay for some other avenues.

    I would encourage you to the reading I suggested, even as reference material . . . the original systems for redress of violating the supposed merit based system you opine was not based on quotas for employment, that was all the machinations of white intellectuals and businesses who wanted a way out the historical model that demonstrated that had violated the law regarding equal access standards of equal opportunity when it dealing with minority populations namely two blacks and native americans . . . in reality brown hispanics had far fewer hurdles. In short a little bit if research uncovered that those population we out an out denied opportunity. The quota did not demand they be hired — though we have used that reasoning — it is entirely false. Nor did it demand that standards be lowered another false narrative. But upon looking at the civil rights legislation, the move intended to kill it did just the opposite, by adding women, it provided an escape and as the establishment does when it is soon to be held account — used that as an escape valve for the historical discrimination — by including women, the government and the private sector could consider white women as a “protected class” and could still dismiss blacks, which explains why white women corner the numbers when it comes to AA, the net avenue of escape of course has been to employ those who choose same sex expression — coming out has actually befitted the government and businesses, because they could now lay claim to being nondiscriminatory —-

    Ohhh tis a tangle web . . . . indeed.

    Furthermore, the assumption that said systems are employing less qualified because some examples appear that way — I really cannot respond to. In the eighties and ninties, there was a huge shift by women to focus on environment to accommodate the female perspective . . . uhhh, needless to say

    black men and the long standing press about how one should fear them become primary targets for the hostile environment workspaces — despite the white women hear me “roar” hallmark signature game rape stats —- there’s a golden olden played back some 600 years, still at work as background, crime stats, crime news, An nothing could be as valued as the Bell Curve a mishmash of very poor modeling using South African social structure — something I only recently considered but a smash hit if want to play the color card, bad modeling, poorly constructed testing . . . withstanding — so before i hop on the bandwagon, I hope you will excuse my dabble into reality.

    Speaking of IQ, I found it deeply interesting that you equate IQ with skill, experience, culture or having any relationship to nationality. Dr. Einstein was a wonder, but I understand, he could find central park without a guide. You bemoan the state of the country’s employment, apparently clueless as to which populations are introducing the dissipation of what it means to be a US citizen.

    It is frightening listening to people on my side of the aisle. With increasing frequency they are embracing the very practices that lead to the conditions an practices they express concern about. You think for one minute importing an Asian, or anyone else you claim of superior IQ is going to preserve the country.

    I have news for you, this country was forged by people of very low IQs’ IQ does not translate into national identity. In fact those cultures you want to import have as the base of their civilizations, the very base the country — the US fought to reject — a system base on class and castes systems.

    Ohhhh well . . . ,

    at least its on the record. There will be no mistaking what happened an how or why.

    Goodness gracious me ohh my.

    ——————————-

    “By the way, Asians (Eastern Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese, among others) have higher IQ than the –now-lowered– mean in the U.S.,”

    Don’t hedge, they are considered to have always had an IQ above the US whatever the mean . . .

    An yet, we remain in the superior position —- this may be on the wane —– but that wane to reverse that reality has a long way to go. Pretty simple this,

    US citizens first . . . in my view.

    •ï¿½Replies: @EliteCommInc.
    @EliteCommInc.

    One should at least have the wherewithal to long for Brits -- they are after all, they are our natural cultural cousins as to nationhood.


    God save the Queen . . .
  • @Jeff Stryker
    @Stan Adams

    Can I ask where your father was?

    What happened to him. Was your mother still in high school? Was your father older?

    Where was he during this?

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    My mother is older than my father. She had me when she was 33.

    My father has never been part of my life. I can count the number of times I’ve been in the same room with him on two hands. The last such meeting was well over twenty years ago.

  • @anon
    @paranoid goy


    I don’t see the writer’s point. Is he complaining about his favourite show being changed, or because the show is such a faithful reflection of real life outside the TV room?
    �
    The first line of text: "My take on modern Star Trek compared to the old"

    Replies: @paranoid goy

    I don’t see your point. Are you complaining about your favourite show being changed, or because the show is such a faithful reflection of real life outside the TV room?

  • paranoid goy says: •ï¿½Website
    @dfordoom
    @Moses


    This is something I’ve thought about a lot in the past few years (Gen X’er here). What gives things value is scarcity.
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    I'm not sure I agree. What gives things value is that they are things that we want. If you like a particular kind of chocolate bar it doesn't matter if they're in every store and they only cost 95 cents. If they have the exact kind of chocolatey goodness that you crave then they still have very high value.

    I found that when the movies and TV shows that I particularly liked suddenly became available on DVD and I could watch them whenever the hell I wanted to I grew to appreciate them a lot more.

    Replies: @paranoid goy

    Like most people, Moses over there is unsure about the difference between price and value? Scarcity may move the price, but the value of that thing remains the exact (subjective) same. A 4-pound hammer will crush your skull no matter what price you paid for it, see? Very important distinction that, value versus price.

    •ï¿½Agree: dfordoom
    •ï¿½Replies: @Moses
    @paranoid goy


    Like most people, Moses over there is unsure about the difference between price and value?

    �
    Oh brother. You guys sound like spergy libertarians.

    Of course you must value a thing for it to have any value, fer cryin’ out loud.

    Scarcity of a thing increases the value you place on each marginal unit. Abundance decreases it.

    Marginal utility. Look it up.

    I don’t value scarce toy collectibles because I don’t give a crap about toy collectibles in the first place. I do value a fine day more than when I lived in CA because there are far fewer of them where I live now.

    Replies: @paranoid goy
  • dfordoom says: •ï¿½Website
    @Feryl
    @dfordoom


    Is that necessarily a good thing? Maybe it is and maybe it isn’t but I think the question has to be asked. Has lesbianism* and porn made people happier than all that illicit sex that the Boomers supposedly had? Has it made society healthier?
    �
    People are not happy right now, but that's mostly because they don't have good leadership, are alienated, etc. WRT sex, all the evidence indicates that the fewer people you screw, the better off you are psychologically . The Abrahamic religions have been right all along. But the neo-lib Right and the subversive Left are both delusional; the former has never recognized that rising inequality makes it impossible to sustain a family (or even have one at all), the latter still says that the destruction of the trad. family is an achievement.

    We may disapprove of the Sexual Revolution of the 60s and 70s (and remember that the Sexual Revolution was a creation of the Silent Generation not the Boomers**) but disapproval is not enough. It’s necessary to show actual evidence that it was harmful.
    �
    It was disastrous medically, socially, psychologically, etc. The Silent and Boomer generations had to constantly make up complete bull-shit about how "unhappy" everyone was when Lost and GI elders (who were born during the Gilded Age and came to reject Gilded Age libertine norms as older adults) were telling people to not do drugs, not sleep around, not get divorced, not give into passions, etc. Not surprisingly, later Gen X-ers and further generations are trying, to the opposition of today's older adults, to re-build the behavioral boundaries that were shattered in the late 60's and 70's.

    *chicks can always get laid, but since the late 80's they've been socialized to be afraid of "loser" or "dangerous" males. So their lustful urges are being directed at other girls to a much greater degree these days. And with ever rising inequality the situation isn't going to improve.

    **These two generations were born during a time of rapid progress and wholesome culture, so of course they took it all for granted and presided over a transition toward chaos, decadence, etc. It's been noted by many that our current problems began in earnest in the 1970's and 80's when the Silent Gen began to usurp the GI Gen (and the Silent Gen is still hanging on, BTW) while Boomers did virtually nothing to stop most of these bad trends.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    WRT sex, all the evidence indicates that the fewer people you screw, the better off you are psychologically .

    But is there hard evidence? Also bear in mind that people vary.

    It was disastrous medically, socially, psychologically, etc.

    Again, actual objective evidence is required.

    Look, you’re probably right. But the problem for social conservatives is that they lack the hard objective evidence to back their case. Proving psychological harm is difficult. Proving social harm is incredibly difficult.

    I’m inclined to think that it’s a matter of balance. The Sexual Revolution may have been a positive thing, up to a point. Some loosening of sexual morals may have been healthy. It just went too far. I’m also inclined to think that being an incel is probably just as psychologically unhealthy as being promiscuous. It’s also possible that too many incels is as socially harmful as too many promiscuous people.

    The waters have been muddied by the current trend towards irrational generational hatred. As far as some Millennials are concerned everything the Boomers did was wrong and bad (even though it was the Silent Generation that was responsible for the Sexual Revolution). So sex is bad because it’s a Boomer thing. And some Boomers are inclined to simply despise Millennials as whiny snowflakes.

    I personally think Millennials just need to drop their smartphones in the trash can and go outside and get some sunshine. I think social media may have done a lot more harm than the 1960s/1970s Sexual Revolution.

    But hard evidence on any of these points is in short supply.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Dumbo
    @dfordoom


    It’s also possible that too many incels is as socially harmful as too many promiscuous people.
    �
    Incels and promiscuity are really just two sides of the same coin. With the destruction of general monogamy, you get more promiscuity for some, and inceldom for others.

    What you need is a return to a more traditional morality, only within which "liberation" makes any sense anyway (what's the point of "sexual liberation" if nothing is frowned upon, what's the point of a "bacchanalia" if you don't have a rigid moral structure on the other days).

    Also, it seems that the sexual revolution today morphed into digital/virtual sex, and we will eventually get into robot sex, etc. So the tendency is that we will have more simulations of sex, and less real sex.

    The world post-corona is going to have even less sex and romance than ever.

    Replies: @dfordoom
  • songbird says:
    @dfordoom
    @Bardon Kaldian


    In past 2 or more decades, filmmakers’ visual arsenal is something old guys could only dream of.
    �
    Which is one of the reasons they make worse movies.

    Replies: @songbird

    I watched the first episode of STD just to see how bad it could be. Of course, it was terrible, but the look of it was as awful as the plot. Basically everything, from the alien make-up, to the ships, to the bridge. Good visual design was utterly lacking, and a lot of shots were too busy. To top it off, there was constant movement. The camera was moving, when people weren’t. It made me want to throw up.

    Why did they do this? Because TVs have high definition now and because it is easier to do effects like holograms.

    I bet anything you could feed films into some algorithm. Something that just worked on the level of images – simple, not complex AI. Something that could count quick cuts, or shaky cam. and you would see some curve that would correspond to the downturn of civilization, as it analyzed popular films from each year.

  • Feryl says: •ï¿½Website
    @dfordoom
    @Feryl


    Boomers and early-mid Gen X were responsible for massive levels of both consensual and non-consensual sex in the late 1960’s-1990’s. But late Gen X and the Millennials have been responsible for a sexual counter-revolution, increased lesbianism and porn consumption, sure, but far less sexual activity over-all compared to older generations.
    �
    Is that necessarily a good thing? Maybe it is and maybe it isn't but I think the question has to be asked. Has lesbianism and porn made people happier than all that illicit sex that the Boomers supposedly had? Has it made society healthier?

    We may disapprove of the Sexual Revolution of the 60s and 70s (and remember that the Sexual Revolution was a creation of the Silent Generation not the Boomers) but disapproval is not enough. It's necessary to show actual evidence that it was harmful.

    I'm not arguing that the Sexual Revolution was harmless or that it was a good thing, merely pointing out that an argument that it was harmful has to be backed by evidence.

    The same applies to the Sexual Counter-Revolution (assuming that it's real and not a media artifact) - an argument in its favour needs the backing of actual evidence. Does such evidence exist?

    Replies: @Flubber, @Feryl

    Is that necessarily a good thing? Maybe it is and maybe it isn’t but I think the question has to be asked. Has lesbianism* and porn made people happier than all that illicit sex that the Boomers supposedly had? Has it made society healthier?

    People are not happy right now, but that’s mostly because they don’t have good leadership, are alienated, etc. WRT sex, all the evidence indicates that the fewer people you screw, the better off you are psychologically . The Abrahamic religions have been right all along. But the neo-lib Right and the subversive Left are both delusional; the former has never recognized that rising inequality makes it impossible to sustain a family (or even have one at all), the latter still says that the destruction of the trad. family is an achievement.

    We may disapprove of the Sexual Revolution of the 60s and 70s (and remember that the Sexual Revolution was a creation of the Silent Generation not the Boomers**) but disapproval is not enough. It’s necessary to show actual evidence that it was harmful.

    It was disastrous medically, socially, psychologically, etc. The Silent and Boomer generations had to constantly make up complete bull-shit about how “unhappy” everyone was when Lost and GI elders (who were born during the Gilded Age and came to reject Gilded Age libertine norms as older adults) were telling people to not do drugs, not sleep around, not get divorced, not give into passions, etc. Not surprisingly, later Gen X-ers and further generations are trying, to the opposition of today’s older adults, to re-build the behavioral boundaries that were shattered in the late 60’s and 70’s.

    *chicks can always get laid, but since the late 80’s they’ve been socialized to be afraid of “loser” or “dangerous” males. So their lustful urges are being directed at other girls to a much greater degree these days. And with ever rising inequality the situation isn’t going to improve.

    **These two generations were born during a time of rapid progress and wholesome culture, so of course they took it all for granted and presided over a transition toward chaos, decadence, etc. It’s been noted by many that our current problems began in earnest in the 1970’s and 80’s when the Silent Gen began to usurp the GI Gen (and the Silent Gen is still hanging on, BTW) while Boomers did virtually nothing to stop most of these bad trends.

    •ï¿½Replies: @dfordoom
    @Feryl


    WRT sex, all the evidence indicates that the fewer people you screw, the better off you are psychologically .
    �
    But is there hard evidence? Also bear in mind that people vary.

    It was disastrous medically, socially, psychologically, etc.
    �
    Again, actual objective evidence is required.

    Look, you're probably right. But the problem for social conservatives is that they lack the hard objective evidence to back their case. Proving psychological harm is difficult. Proving social harm is incredibly difficult.

    I'm inclined to think that it's a matter of balance. The Sexual Revolution may have been a positive thing, up to a point. Some loosening of sexual morals may have been healthy. It just went too far. I'm also inclined to think that being an incel is probably just as psychologically unhealthy as being promiscuous. It's also possible that too many incels is as socially harmful as too many promiscuous people.

    The waters have been muddied by the current trend towards irrational generational hatred. As far as some Millennials are concerned everything the Boomers did was wrong and bad (even though it was the Silent Generation that was responsible for the Sexual Revolution). So sex is bad because it's a Boomer thing. And some Boomers are inclined to simply despise Millennials as whiny snowflakes.

    I personally think Millennials just need to drop their smartphones in the trash can and go outside and get some sunshine. I think social media may have done a lot more harm than the 1960s/1970s Sexual Revolution.

    But hard evidence on any of these points is in short supply.

    Replies: @Dumbo
  • @anobserver
    @EliteCommInc.

    Dear EliteCommInc: You are right when it comes to your run of the mill corporation, and Academia which we know is highly political. What I was referring to are the highly technical ranks in high-tech. In those ranks, a person’s history of achievement is well known to colleagues, and promotions based on gender or race (not merit) are easily recognizable.

    By the way, Asians (Eastern Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese, among others) have higher IQ than the --now-lowered-- mean in the U.S., and what I have seen in high-tech, is that they usually deserve the promotions; Their temperament is another matter. As always, there are exceptions.

    Replies: @anobserver

    Dear EliteCommInc: Another thing to keep in mind, is that before the so-called “Diversity†drives were introduced into high-tech, the mantra was always for competence and merit to be the bases for advancement, without discrimination. Albeit with some escapes, as you refer to.

    Today, however, so-called “Diversity†requires quotas for promotions, and even more heavy ones for hiring. Please check with any friends you might have in those fields, perhaps even someone in HR. So we went from a case where merit was the main stated and understood requirement, to one where merit is secondary, and quotas are unstated, but understood bases.

  • @EliteCommInc.
    " . . . but you are partially right this time. Whereas “atta boy – atta girl, loyalty, quotas, verbal agreements, trade-offs†may have been practiced; They are not part of the accepted system in public corporations, and were always frowned upon. Most importantly, they could be criticized and scrutinized publicly, with impunity."


    I am simply going to state -- you are wrong. Hence the myth meritocracy. They are more tan a part of system they are long standing traditions of human behavior. I not partially correct, -- it's correct.

    I provided several references you should check if you haven't ad have another go ----

    Here's another avenue, take look at the revolving door of elite academic an corporate playgrounds. And compare that to performance. People who have gotten matters completely wrong in every way --remain in positions of power.



    Now on this matter of partial rightness this time.


    I take it you think I got something wrong previously --- if so I usually note it --- however, I am unfamiliar with what you thin I got wrong --- you are welcome to enlighten me.



    maybe you too think anyone has the skill, knowledge and the money to paint their homes, and only lazy, shiftless blacks living on the dole are grifting . . .


    laugh. or that the solution to the black citizens role in the US is to import mexicans and asians -- speaking of "wrong".


    laugh good grief

    Replies: @anobserver

    Dear EliteCommInc: You are right when it comes to your run of the mill corporation, and Academia which we know is highly political. What I was referring to are the highly technical ranks in high-tech. In those ranks, a person’s history of achievement is well known to colleagues, and promotions based on gender or race (not merit) are easily recognizable.

    By the way, Asians (Eastern Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese, among others) have higher IQ than the –now-lowered– mean in the U.S., and what I have seen in high-tech, is that they usually deserve the promotions; Their temperament is another matter. As always, there are exceptions.

    •ï¿½Replies: @anobserver
    @anobserver

    Dear EliteCommInc: Another thing to keep in mind, is that before the so-called “Diversity†drives were introduced into high-tech, the mantra was always for competence and merit to be the bases for advancement, without discrimination. Albeit with some escapes, as you refer to.

    Today, however, so-called “Diversity†requires quotas for promotions, and even more heavy ones for hiring. Please check with any friends you might have in those fields, perhaps even someone in HR. So we went from a case where merit was the main stated and understood requirement, to one where merit is secondary, and quotas are unstated, but understood bases.
  • JackOH says:

    FWIW-I probably saw all episodes of STOS as a youngster; maybe a dozen or so of STNG. Nothing of the other spin-offs. My interest in sci-fi pretty much waned by my late teens.

    William Shatner ought to beat out the late soul singer James Brown’s claim to be the hardest work man in show business. Shatner’s resume dates to the 1950s. He’s done all sorts of work with a lot of people, including that Esperanto language movie from the 1960s. He did a summer stock Arsenic and Old Lace in 1973 in my area. He’d yet to make serious Hollywood money, although he was just on the verge. If my memory’s okay, he was going through a divorce, and traveling in one of those campers that fit into pick-up truck beds. He presents that confident, cosmopolitan manner, but he’s earned it, too.

  • @Philip Owen
    @anobserver

    Your honour, I present in evidence the case of Hewlett Packard, as early as 1985 when the founders were still in control.

    There were people on the HP board who should have known better. Hackborn comes to mind.

    Replies: @anobserver

    Dear Mr. Owen,
    I am not familiar with the case of Mr. Hackborn. Would you please elaborate.
    Regards

    •ï¿½Replies: @Philip Owen
    @anobserver

    Dick Hackborn was/is a long term HP engineer who knew the company inside out and backwards. His real contribution was to take HP into the computer business in the first place. He understood how the corporation worked. He then seemed to sit back and let the board make appointments based on political correctness rather than competence. Fiorina for example did not sem to understand that HP product divisions were profit centres rather than as AT&T, sales groups were profit centres. Fiorina also went for large acquisitions which were a total No No under Bill & Dave. HP became a rag bag of failing IT hardware companies with incompatible and multifarious products, operating systems and internal cultures supported by the printer division. The obvious choice to take over HP, Rick Belluzo, rightly left and was slightly later appointed COO of Microsoft. He delivered the X-Box. Belluzo was a keen soccer fan, hence HP sponsored soccer for a generation.
  • @anobserver
    “…the white writers imagined meritocracy would ensure whites like themselves would still have a position at the top of society (just as in Hollywood then and Silicon Valley now)â€.

    I am sad to say that Mr. Durocher’s description of Silicon Valley is outdated. I am at a prominent high-tech company, with decades in that business. Today, there is a quota for promoting women and Africans, at all technical grade levels, especially the upper ones. When promotions are announced every year, most of us would look at each other asking “What has she (or he) done to deserve being elevated to that level?â€. Those promotions used to be a badge of honor worn only by the select few, after years (if not decades) of innovation, and persistent hard work creating products.

    Many of us could not pursue the question, or provide explanations, any further, except to our most-trusted friends. I have seen people being dragged into month-long investigations (inquisitions) because they had dared utter a criticism in a gathering or a meeting. Some (if not most) high-tech companies, today, have anonymous reporting internal web sites where someone could file a complaint against another, and not be known even to the investigators. The accuser is fully protected, while the burden is on the accused to prove his or her innocence. If you do not believe it, then please reach out to any of your friends who work at a high-tech company, and ask them. Even foreign-born technical folks (mostly Indians) are disgusted by the situation, but there is nothing that anyone could do, other than leave those companies, and end their livelihood.

    To add more insult to the injury, in the case of women, many of the promotions go to foreign-born ones, because the natural ratio of highly-technical women in any society is relatively small, but in relative terms India and China could provide countless of them, combined. Those two countries are almost nine times the population of the US. The only place where meritocracy truly exists today, is when someone starts a new company, since that requires real talent. Unfortunately, once that company becomes larger, or is purchased by one of the behemoths, then strict meritocracy goes out the window.

    The stock which created America and the values which made it great (Meritocracy within institutions), have lost the country already.

    Replies: @JackOH, @Philip Owen

    Your honour, I present in evidence the case of Hewlett Packard, as early as 1985 when the founders were still in control.

    There were people on the HP board who should have known better. Hackborn comes to mind.

    •ï¿½Replies: @anobserver
    @Philip Owen

    Dear Mr. Owen,
    I am not familiar with the case of Mr. Hackborn. Would you please elaborate.
    Regards

    Replies: @Philip Owen
  • Meanwhile, in the UK, there is Dr Who … Not only female but overturning the class structure too.

  • I’m an old Star Trek fan, old enough to have watched the original series live on TV when I was a schoolboy. I’ve not watched more than a few episodes of the latest iterations, and find them almost unbearable. I could fill a long rant with specific complaints, but I’ll mention just one that I think is critical; Discovery and Picard lack the Promethean spirit so evident in the original Star Trek and in TNG. I guess it’s just another sad symptom of our declining civilization.

    BTW thanks for the spoiler about Picard’s ending. Now that I know it ends with Jean-Luc professing gay love for Data, I know the damn series is not worth wasting another minute on.

    •ï¿½Agree: Black Picard
  • Dumbo says:

    Besides the bossy women / bumbling men, one thing that turns me off immediately from these new series, and unfortunately I see it all the time mostly in Netflix series, is the pairing of a white woman with a black man. It seems that Netflix does this in ALL series.

    I just now chose a random series, British, but produced by Netflix, and bang, just from the start, a blonde teenager with a crush on black dude. This can’t be a coincidence. And also, I suppose these series are targeted at women (even if they are sci-fi), because no white guy worth his salt wants to watch a anything with a blonde ni***r-fu***r . Unless it’s Othello, or a horror story about rape. (And even Othello was not a subsaharan African, but likely a northern African).

  • anon[148] •ï¿½Disclaimer says:
    @Feryl
    @fightapathy

    "For all the liberal activist messaging, the characters were indeed gripping and familiar and likable and honorable. The sets and stages were entertaining. The tech talk led to places in the script. It was an enjoyable ride, even if it included irritating leftist doctrine. Heck, I kept tuning each week, no matter how outrageous it became."

    You could make a good argument that ST: the Next Gen was, and still is, some of the best produced TV ever done. The costumes, props, and visual effects still look pretty good (and recent re-masters upgraded some of the effects to be even better), and the sets were well above par for genre TV. The color film stock still looks great, esp. after HD re-mastering, whereas the 60's show will always be plagued by the awful color film stock and camera equipment that was used for 60's TV. The stuff produced since the late 2000's will always look like crap because digital cameras will never come close to duplicating the pleasing image that the film cameras and film stock of the late 80's and 90's produced.

    Replies: @anon

    The stuff produced since the late 2000’s will always look like crap because digital cameras will never come close to duplicating the pleasing image that the film cameras and film stock of the late 80’s and 90’s produced.

    I’m glad that someone else noticed this. The newer shows … look bad, despite the production values. There are chroma issues, color saturation issues, color casts everywhere, bizarre and uncomfortable lighting choices, lens flaring, etc. I find that’s an issue with a lot of movies these days.

  • anon[637] •ï¿½Disclaimer says:
    @songbird
    @Jeff Stryker

    I wonder how much white flight has influenced Hollywood production.

    A certain percentage of whites stopped going to the movies because they didn't want to support the multicult product, or the anti-white message. Another certain percentage stopped going because of the experience of ghetto kids talking - and you can hear their non-white voices, even when you can't see them. All this must feed back into the product.

    I really think the non-white audience is the key to explaining the newer movies.

    Replies: @anon, @Anonymous, @anon

    I really think the non-white audience is the key to explaining the newer movies.

    That has certainly had an impact. I recall Steve Sailer once mentioning the demographics of the Lucas Star Wars prequels. Hispanics were only about 12% of the population then but 25% of the movie going audience. Changing demographics in the United States and globalization have led to an industry subsisting on the lowest common denominator. There’s not much room for sophistication in that environment.

  • @paranoid goy
    I don't see the writer's point. Is he complaining about his favourite show being changed, or because the show is such a faithful reflection of real life outside the TV room?
    There was a time Whites would just shake their head at the 'queers' and wander off. When did we become emotionally invested in the recorded capers of homosexuals? I mean, everyone here is aware that Hollywood and all its agencies, like Pornhub, are continuing the good work of the catholic church: Destroying all cultures, and replace it with... they spell their own god's name G-D. Whatever you think that stands for, you are wrong, otherwise they would have said it already, via their New Testament, also known as The Media.
    On the other hand, most of us can't even keep the OxyContin out of the kids' reach, who's gong to keep them away from those "programs" on teevee?
    If you want to stop the programming of the next generation, I strongly suggest getting rid of those "programs' programming them to act like preprogrammed programs with Artificial Intelligence.
    Look for a wire leading from the TV to a hole in the wall. Destroy that wire. Your television will now only show those shows made with absolutely no globalist agenda, and only those of good taste.

    Replies: @anon

    I don’t see the writer’s point. Is he complaining about his favourite show being changed, or because the show is such a faithful reflection of real life outside the TV room?

    The first line of text: “My take on modern Star Trek compared to the old”

    •ï¿½Replies: @paranoid goy
    @anon

    I don’t see your point. Are you complaining about your favourite show being changed, or because the show is such a faithful reflection of real life outside the TV room?
  • ” . . . but you are partially right this time. Whereas “atta boy – atta girl, loyalty, quotas, verbal agreements, trade-offs†may have been practiced; They are not part of the accepted system in public corporations, and were always frowned upon. Most importantly, they could be criticized and scrutinized publicly, with impunity.”

    I am simply going to state — you are wrong. Hence the myth meritocracy. They are more tan a part of system they are long standing traditions of human behavior. I not partially correct, — it’s correct.

    I provided several references you should check if you haven’t ad have another go —-

    Here’s another avenue, take look at the revolving door of elite academic an corporate playgrounds. And compare that to performance. People who have gotten matters completely wrong in every way –remain in positions of power.

    Now on this matter of partial rightness this time.

    I take it you think I got something wrong previously — if so I usually note it — however, I am unfamiliar with what you thin I got wrong — you are welcome to enlighten me.

    maybe you too think anyone has the skill, knowledge and the money to paint their homes, and only lazy, shiftless blacks living on the dole are grifting . . .

    laugh. or that the solution to the black citizens role in the US is to import mexicans and asians — speaking of “wrong”.

    laugh good grief

    •ï¿½Replies: @anobserver
    @EliteCommInc.

    Dear EliteCommInc: You are right when it comes to your run of the mill corporation, and Academia which we know is highly political. What I was referring to are the highly technical ranks in high-tech. In those ranks, a person’s history of achievement is well known to colleagues, and promotions based on gender or race (not merit) are easily recognizable.

    By the way, Asians (Eastern Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese, among others) have higher IQ than the --now-lowered-- mean in the U.S., and what I have seen in high-tech, is that they usually deserve the promotions; Their temperament is another matter. As always, there are exceptions.

    Replies: @anobserver
  • @Ray P
    @Milesglorious

    Nurse Christine Chapel (Majel Barrett)?

    Replies: @Milesglorious, @Ray P

    In British army, nurses are NCOs starting at the rank of corporal. In Royal Navy, nurses start as sub-lieutenants. Star Fleet would likely follow navy practice. I note that the US Army has them as commissioned officers from the beginning.

  • @Flubber
    @dfordoom

    Has lesbianism and porn made people happier?

    Well lesbianism doesn't. Lesbian relationships exhibit the highest rates of domestic violence.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    Lesbian relationships exhibit the highest rates of domestic violence.

    Indeed. I’ve known a lot of lesbians over the years. Amazing levels of domestic violence. Frightening.

  • dfordoom says: •ï¿½Website
    @Moses
    @Stan Adams


    Isn’t it funny how, as you get older, you end up longing for the days when you had nothing, when you pined after all the things that you have now?

    �
    Great line.

    Right now, without getting up, I can watch any and every episode of any and every Star Trek episode ever made... But I’d give anything to be back in a time when I couldn’t watch any of them. I’d give anything to be back in a time when the highlight of my weekend was staying up late on Saturday night just to watch a tedious Voyager crapfest (in horrible over-the-air reception, to boot) that I’d already seen. I’d give anything not to have all the things I spent so many years hustling to get.

    �
    This is something I've thought about a lot in the past few years (Gen X'er here). What gives things value is scarcity.

    As a teen I remember listening to the radio for hours just to catch a favorite hit song. It was always an exciting event. Same for the once-a-year Christmas specials or Wizard of Oz broadcasts.

    When everything is available, all the time, it loses its special value.

    Californians don't value a beautiful, sunny summer day the way New Englanders do.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    This is something I’ve thought about a lot in the past few years (Gen X’er here). What gives things value is scarcity.

    I’m not sure I agree. What gives things value is that they are things that we want. If you like a particular kind of chocolate bar it doesn’t matter if they’re in every store and they only cost 95 cents. If they have the exact kind of chocolatey goodness that you crave then they still have very high value.

    I found that when the movies and TV shows that I particularly liked suddenly became available on DVD and I could watch them whenever the hell I wanted to I grew to appreciate them a lot more.

    •ï¿½Replies: @paranoid goy
    @dfordoom

    Like most people, Moses over there is unsure about the difference between price and value? Scarcity may move the price, but the value of that thing remains the exact (subjective) same. A 4-pound hammer will crush your skull no matter what price you paid for it, see? Very important distinction that, value versus price.

    Replies: @Moses
  • @Bardon Kaldian
    @dfordoom

    It is difficult to rate sci-fi films & series because they, more than other genres, are dependent on the cinema technology, so to speak.

    Even dramas from, say, 1950s, 60s, 70s...now seem, most of them, rather odd (dialogs, acting, ...). Sci fi - even more. Older sci fi had better ideas and, perhaps, more freedom. Yet, most of it is now visually anachronistic.

    In past 2 or more decades, filmmakers' visual arsenal is something old guys could only dream of. But- they lack guts, balls. And, they're mostly illiterate, uncultured & dumb.

    What they have in abundance is almost compulsive urge to preach idiotic ultra-liberal gospel, something which has nothing to do with our reality or even projected "reality".

    Shallow, false, fake, lying, cowardly, corrupt, sleazy... that's how I would characterize modern movie sci fi.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    In past 2 or more decades, filmmakers’ visual arsenal is something old guys could only dream of.

    Which is one of the reasons they make worse movies.

    •ï¿½Replies: @songbird
    @dfordoom

    I watched the first episode of STD just to see how bad it could be. Of course, it was terrible, but the look of it was as awful as the plot. Basically everything, from the alien make-up, to the ships, to the bridge. Good visual design was utterly lacking, and a lot of shots were too busy. To top it off, there was constant movement. The camera was moving, when people weren't. It made me want to throw up.

    Why did they do this? Because TVs have high definition now and because it is easier to do effects like holograms.

    I bet anything you could feed films into some algorithm. Something that just worked on the level of images - simple, not complex AI. Something that could count quick cuts, or shaky cam. and you would see some curve that would correspond to the downturn of civilization, as it analyzed popular films from each year.
  • @dfordoom
    @Feryl


    Boomers and early-mid Gen X were responsible for massive levels of both consensual and non-consensual sex in the late 1960’s-1990’s. But late Gen X and the Millennials have been responsible for a sexual counter-revolution, increased lesbianism and porn consumption, sure, but far less sexual activity over-all compared to older generations.
    �
    Is that necessarily a good thing? Maybe it is and maybe it isn't but I think the question has to be asked. Has lesbianism and porn made people happier than all that illicit sex that the Boomers supposedly had? Has it made society healthier?

    We may disapprove of the Sexual Revolution of the 60s and 70s (and remember that the Sexual Revolution was a creation of the Silent Generation not the Boomers) but disapproval is not enough. It's necessary to show actual evidence that it was harmful.

    I'm not arguing that the Sexual Revolution was harmless or that it was a good thing, merely pointing out that an argument that it was harmful has to be backed by evidence.

    The same applies to the Sexual Counter-Revolution (assuming that it's real and not a media artifact) - an argument in its favour needs the backing of actual evidence. Does such evidence exist?

    Replies: @Flubber, @Feryl

    Has lesbianism and porn made people happier?

    Well lesbianism doesn’t. Lesbian relationships exhibit the highest rates of domestic violence.

    •ï¿½Replies: @dfordoom
    @Flubber


    Lesbian relationships exhibit the highest rates of domestic violence.
    �
    Indeed. I've known a lot of lesbians over the years. Amazing levels of domestic violence. Frightening.
  • Moses says:
    @Stan Adams
    @Jeff Stryker

    I was born about a decade after you, but my mother had a short-term live-in boyfriend who was crazy about Star Trek. We never got along very well. In an apparent attempt to curry my favor, he took me to see First Contact on opening night in November 1996. At the time, I knew very little about Trek, having seen maybe one or two episodes of TNG.

    Say what you will, but I was blown away. I thought it was the coolest thing I'd ever seen. If nothing else, it introduced me to the franchise.

    (They were handing out Enterprise-E cutaway posters in the lobby. I kept mine and held on to it for years. Sadly, it got lost during a move.)

    In retrospect, FC was a poor introduction to Trek in general and TNG in particular. For one thing, the movie version of Picard ("I will make them PAY for what they've done!") was a completely different character from the TV show's tea-sipping, Shakespeare-quoting, hailing frequency-opening skipper. But Stewart acted his ass off, and Frakes churned out a decent big dumb action flick.

    I started watching Voyager and DS9 a couple of weeks later. I remember the names of the first episodes that I ever watched - "Flashback" and "Rapture" - and even the date on which they aired: New Year's Day 1997.

    My local station stopped running TNG reruns literally two weeks before I started watching Trek. TNG and DS9 had been airing on one station and Voyager on another. When the TNG/DS9 station dumped Trek altogether, the Voyager station picked up DS9, but not TNG. (And only new DS9 episodes - no reruns.)

    This station had very little interest in Trek. Aside from the new episodes of Voyager and DS9 on Wednesday night, its one paltry token offering was a rerun of the previous week's episode of Voyager at 1 a.m. on Sunday morning. It was a dry period for Trekkers, to be sure.

    So, aside from several episodes that I was able to acquire on VHS (including a special value pack of the various Trek pilots), I saw very little of TOS and TNG until they began airing on the Sci-Fi Channel and TNN/Spike, respectively.

    By skimping and saving, I was able to snare enough TNG episodes (including both parts of "The Best of Both Worlds") to have a good idea of the show's general tone. But I knew almost nothing about TOS, apart from what I was able to glean from a dog-eared copy of The Star Trek Compendium that I picked up for fifty cents at a used bookstore. My main impressions of Kirk and Spock were based on the 1980s movies, several of which I was able to buy for a couple of bucks from a video store that was going out of business.

    I didn't get to see the bulk of early Voyager and DS9 until both shows came out on DVD in the mid-2000s.

    My mother, while not notable for her generosity, nevertheless encouraged and (on special occasions) assisted my efforts to grow my collection. She herself owned - hoarded, really - thousands of movies, including many obscure horror titles, on such disparate formats as VHS, Betamax, and laserdisc. At one point, she even owned an international PAL/NTSC TV with a VCD player.

    And Mom, in her infinite wisdom, did absolutely nothing during my formative years to prevent me from being exposed to material that few would deem appropriate for children. For example, we watched Suspiria together when I was about seven or eight years old. (She was a huge Dario Argento fan.)

    One might think that being exposed to sex and violence at an early age would induce promiscuity and a general acceptance of immorality, but for me it had the opposite effect. I grew numb to provocative imagery.

    One time, when I was about nine or ten, we were watching a movie - was it Boxing Helena? - with a fairly explicit sex scene. She turned to me and said, "They make it look exciting, but it's not. Sex is the most overrated activity you can imagine. It's so f**king tedious."

    (She didn't watch her tongue, obviously.)

    Another time, we were watching a movie with a sappy love scene. She remarked that that "true love" was a Hollywood myth designed to perpetuate the species - and our species didn't need to be perpetuated. "One child," she added glumly, "is more than enough."

    The obvious implication, of course, was that she didn't really want me around. But it was only an unspoken implication - a hint, as it were. It wasn't until I was in high school that she explicitly admitted that she'd wanted to abort me - having a kid was too much of a hassle - but my grandmother talked her out of it.

    How much of this was sour grapes about her own hapless romantic life, I can't say. But it made me pretty damned cynical at an early age.

    But, anyway, during the videotape era, the Sam Goody at my favorite mall never offered more than a handful of Trek episodes, generally priced at $19.99 a pop. One lazy Sunday afternoon - this would have been in the summer of '98, give or take an eon or two - I took a two-hour ride to a distant mall and stumbled upon a Suncoast Motion Picture Company store that had the complete runs of TOS and TNG on VHS. It was almost awe-inspiring to stand in the store and gaze upon all of those brightly-colored boxes. If I'd had the money, I would have bought each and every one of them.

    (Alas, I couldn't afford even one. Such were the deprivations of my underprivileged youth.)

    Is there a point to this spergy, rambling, wall-of-text infodumping? Not really, except to point out that even a clueless millennial like me can still remember what it was like to live in a world before virtually every movie and TV show ever made was available on-demand, often for free.

    I'm one of the youngest people who are old enough to understand why, say, Napster was a big deal.

    In addition to movies, my mother collected music on vinyl, cassette, CD, etc. She always did value possessions over people, media over men. Movies, music, books.

    And I've come to understand her position. After all, no hunk of plastic and magnetic tape ever broke my heart.

    (Except for the ones that got chewed up by the VCR, that is. And the ones that accidentally got taped over. And the ones that were in that one box that I know I put in the van, but that I never saw again.)

    Isn't it funny how, as you get older, you end up longing for the days when you had nothing, when you pined after all the things that you have now?

    Right now, without getting up, I can watch any and every episode of any and every Star Trek episode ever made, right here from the comfort of my grungy metal folding chair. But I'd give anything to be back in a time when I couldn't watch any of them. I'd give anything to be back in a time when the highlight of my weekend was staying up late on Saturday night just to watch a tedious Voyager crapfest (in horrible over-the-air reception, to boot) that I'd already seen. I'd give anything not to have all the things I spent so many years hustling to get.

    Why? Because those episodes spoke to me. They moved me. They changed me. They made me more (or less) than I was before I watched them.

    Those damn episodes don't do anything for me anymore. They're visual and sonic wallpaper. Background clutter. White noise. Mind droppings. Been there, done that. So f**king tedious.

    Now, on the verge of middle age, I find myself growing increasingly appreciative of the one media experience of my youth that, in archived footage on YouTube, is still as good as I remember it: the old-school Weather Channel.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jolAavRwMRo

    I always kept a big stack of those glossy hurricane tracking maps they used to give out at the supermarket. (The manager used to chide me for taking so many.) All those long days and late nights spent vegetating in front of the TV, waiting for the latest advisory on some middling little tropical depression off the coast of Africa ... good times.

    Replies: @Jeff Stryker, @Jeff Stryker, @Sir Isaac Newton, @anon, @JackOH, @fish, @Moses

    Isn’t it funny how, as you get older, you end up longing for the days when you had nothing, when you pined after all the things that you have now?

    Great line.

    Right now, without getting up, I can watch any and every episode of any and every Star Trek episode ever made… But I’d give anything to be back in a time when I couldn’t watch any of them. I’d give anything to be back in a time when the highlight of my weekend was staying up late on Saturday night just to watch a tedious Voyager crapfest (in horrible over-the-air reception, to boot) that I’d already seen. I’d give anything not to have all the things I spent so many years hustling to get.

    This is something I’ve thought about a lot in the past few years (Gen X’er here). What gives things value is scarcity.

    As a teen I remember listening to the radio for hours just to catch a favorite hit song. It was always an exciting event. Same for the once-a-year Christmas specials or Wizard of Oz broadcasts.

    When everything is available, all the time, it loses its special value.

    Californians don’t value a beautiful, sunny summer day the way New Englanders do.

    •ï¿½Replies: @dfordoom
    @Moses


    This is something I’ve thought about a lot in the past few years (Gen X’er here). What gives things value is scarcity.
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    I'm not sure I agree. What gives things value is that they are things that we want. If you like a particular kind of chocolate bar it doesn't matter if they're in every store and they only cost 95 cents. If they have the exact kind of chocolatey goodness that you crave then they still have very high value.

    I found that when the movies and TV shows that I particularly liked suddenly became available on DVD and I could watch them whenever the hell I wanted to I grew to appreciate them a lot more.

    Replies: @paranoid goy
  • Bardon Kaldion said: “Older sci fi had better ideas and, perhaps, more freedom. Yet, most of it is now visually anachronistic.”

    Hey Bardon!

    Re; your respectable opinion, above. A question. Ever see this sci-fi movie, “The Magician’s Nephew?” Trailer is linked below.


    Video Link

  • @dfordoom
    @Bardon Kaldian


    Stanislaw Lem, who leaves all others in the dust.
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    I agree with you about Lem. Great writer.

    I think you're a bit hard on science fiction. There's science fiction and science fiction. Some of it is intelligent and cerebral, some of it is fun adventure stuff, some of it is trash. Since the 70s most TV and movie science fiction has been pretty awful. There were some extremely good science fiction movies in the 70s and even into the 80s - Colossus: The Forbin Project, Solaris (the original Russian one not the godawful Hollywood remake), The Andromeda Strain, the John Carpenter version of The Thing, Blade Runner, A Clockwork Orange. Even some of the lesser 70s sci-fi movies had their moments (Westworld, even Demon Seed).

    Star Trek TOS was mostly fun and occasionally clever and even quite thoughtful. There were some cringe-inducing episodes but mostly it was pretty good entertainment.

    TNG was dull and preachy and took itself too seriously. I really hated the TNG crew. Picard was a pompous ass. And having an empath aboard - dear God.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    It is difficult to rate sci-fi films & series because they, more than other genres, are dependent on the cinema technology, so to speak.

    Even dramas from, say, 1950s, 60s, 70s…now seem, most of them, rather odd (dialogs, acting, …). Sci fi – even more. Older sci fi had better ideas and, perhaps, more freedom. Yet, most of it is now visually anachronistic.

    In past 2 or more decades, filmmakers’ visual arsenal is something old guys could only dream of. But- they lack guts, balls. And, they’re mostly illiterate, uncultured & dumb.

    What they have in abundance is almost compulsive urge to preach idiotic ultra-liberal gospel, something which has nothing to do with our reality or even projected “reality”.

    Shallow, false, fake, lying, cowardly, corrupt, sleazy… that’s how I would characterize modern movie sci fi.

    •ï¿½Agree: SeekerofthePresence
    •ï¿½Replies: @dfordoom
    @Bardon Kaldian


    In past 2 or more decades, filmmakers’ visual arsenal is something old guys could only dream of.
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    Which is one of the reasons they make worse movies.

    Replies: @songbird
  • Sparkon says:

    Like most stuff on TV, Star Trek is best enjoyed with the sound muted as pleasant background ambience something like a tank of tropical fish.

    To its credit, Star Trek has an excellent color palette, so it works well that way.

    Come to think of it, doesn’t William Shatner somewhat resemble or make you think of a goldfish? Hmm… Patrick Stewart resembles a Moray eel in that light, but at least he aged well. Shatner’s appearance seems to have taken a plunge as he’s aged, although Beaver and Wally are the hands down winners in that category, but I thought they were both rather weird looking as child stars of the popular series to begin with. Now I enjoy the series mostly for regular looks at Barbara Billingsly.

    Getting into the spirit of taking Star Trek far too seriously, I decided to cast some familiar public celebrities to play the former stars in the series.

    First, notice that Chekov in the photo here appears to be something of a stuffed suit, so to say, where my choice for the part — former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev — is quite muscular, and certainly wouldn’t need any padding in his suit, but I think he makes an excellent Chekov.

    For Nyota Uruha, Hota Kotb. Try saying — or even typing — that several times quickly to get in the mood for this kind of adventure.

    I stuck with NBC’s Today show to pick Carson Daly for DeForrest Kelly, Bones.

    Jared Kushner as Spock, of course.

    I don’t know anyone with a good fake Scottish accent, so I’m stumped on a stand in for James Doohan as Scotty.

    And NBC’s “Meet the Press” host Chuck Todd as Shatner.

    To go boldly where no fake news has gone before.

  • @EliteCommInc.
    "But these were rarer, and not as systemic as the race-based and gender-based promotions of today.'


    You might want to re-read

    'The Myth of Meritocracy" and other similar writings; patronage, atta boy - atta girl, loyalty, quotas, verbal agreements, trade offs . . . these have always been pat of the system and consider this, the entire of whites have lived primarily with a complete bar of access to most of black society ---

    I had some other thoughts, but understanding what I do about meriticracy (assuming I am correct)

    laugh, I am going to tread lightly . . . there's enough; scapegoating fear and panic as the result of leadership -- nearly all white in these spaces as it is ----

    Replies: @anobserver

    Dear EliteCommInc: Yes, but you are partially right this time. Whereas “atta boy – atta girl, loyalty, quotas, verbal agreements, trade-offs†may have been practiced; They are not part of the accepted system in public corporations, and were always frowned upon. Most importantly, they could be criticized and scrutinized publicly, with impunity. In privately held concerns, this could be legitimately practiced, since that is part of the intent behind holding something privately –you can have your brother or wife sit on the board of directors.

    As to groups which keep complaining about racism, and white privileged, I have one question: What is stopping you from creating your own ecosystem of wealth and prosperity? Why don’t you do that, and keep it for yourselves. Do not even let any whites into it. We are waiting……….

  • https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Danny+Crane+Moments&ru=%2fvideos%2fsearch%3fq%3dDanny%2bCrane%2bMoments%26FORM%3dVDMHRS&view=detail&mid=649F99D58366D69C6188649F99D58366D69C6188&rvsmid=5DE385119AE27DA70ACC5DE385119AE27DA70ACC&FORM=VDQVAP

    And those roles in Twilight Zone and Star Trek will were essential in making Denny Crane.

    If the blacklist can avoid becoming smarmy — Mr James Spader . . . may know the same.

  • “But these were rarer, and not as systemic as the race-based and gender-based promotions of today.’

    You might want to re-read

    ‘The Myth of Meritocracy” and other similar writings; patronage, atta boy – atta girl, loyalty, quotas, verbal agreements, trade offs . . . these have always been pat of the system and consider this, the entire of whites have lived primarily with a complete bar of access to most of black society —

    I had some other thoughts, but understanding what I do about meriticracy (assuming I am correct)

    laugh, I am going to tread lightly . . . there’s enough; scapegoating fear and panic as the result of leadership — nearly all white in these spaces as it is —-

    •ï¿½Replies: @anobserver
    @EliteCommInc.

    Dear EliteCommInc: Yes, but you are partially right this time. Whereas “atta boy – atta girl, loyalty, quotas, verbal agreements, trade-offs†may have been practiced; They are not part of the accepted system in public corporations, and were always frowned upon. Most importantly, they could be criticized and scrutinized publicly, with impunity. In privately held concerns, this could be legitimately practiced, since that is part of the intent behind holding something privately --you can have your brother or wife sit on the board of directors.

    As to groups which keep complaining about racism, and white privileged, I have one question: What is stopping you from creating your own ecosystem of wealth and prosperity? Why don’t you do that, and keep it for yourselves. Do not even let any whites into it. We are waiting..........
  • @EliteCommInc.
    "I am sad to say that Mr. Durocher’s description of Silicon Valley is outdated. I am at a prominent high-tech company, with decades in that business. Today, there is a quota for promoting women and Africans, at all technical grade levels, especially the upper ones. "


    This might have some value i not were one little observation. That you believe that whites engaged in ,meritocracy even among themselves. I have no doubt that if not a sing;e black were a group of promotions --- whites male and female would still be standing around looking at each other dumbfounded about the choices.

    Replies: @anobserver

    Dear EliteCommInc: Yes you are right. But in the case of white women, I have seen increasing promotions based on gender. There was always the odd promotion of a white male, based on the fact that he is well-connected, and well-liked. But these were rarer, and not as systemic as the race-based and gender-based promotions of today.

    I left out Hispanics: In many cases, these are essentially white (Spaniards), but with the politically-correct surname. I have perceived such males be promoted, in order to score a check mark in the “Hispanic†column of the quota ledger. All of this is an inevitable consequence of a society of groups with disparate capabilities, where the standards eventually decline to meet the mean.

  • @dfordoom
    @Jeff Stryker


    AIDS is a gay disease. It is possible to catch it from a woman, but less so.
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    It would be more accurate to say that AIDS is a disease spread by sodomy. It is possible to catch it from vaginal sex, but it's very very very unlikely. Degenerate heterosexuals who practise sodomy can however spread it.

    Replies: @Jeff Stryker

    Actually, its probably more easy to catch AIDS from an HIV positive woman through anal sex than an HIV positive male because a woman’s anus is smaller and more likely to tear.

    I recall back in 2004 an HIV positive porn actress infected two males during a “double anal” scene. She was aware that she had AIDS, in fact.

    So indeed, if you’re heterosexual and that far down into the rabbit hole of extreme sexual practices like “double anal” then indeed you’re much more likely to acquire AIDS.

    But most heterosexuals don’t have anal sex with strangers. Except prostitutes, of course. And many heterosexual men have contracted AIDS from them.

    What can you say, being a sexual degenerate will open you up to tremendous risks.

  • @Hacienda
    @Jeff Stryker

    Only saw Shatner in ST and the Twilight Zone episode. Very underrated actor. If you mean Shatner in the roles he played, sure he's man's man. I never saw him that way because he's playing a role specifically for boys. Too much mischief and dancing of eyes. I think it was one from his bag of actor's tricks to draw the audience in. Nothing wrong with that, he made a fortune for himself and the franchise. And he's still a spry 89, which is remarkable in itself. Good for him, and nice to have a star from my childhood still around.

    Replies: @fish

    Best thing about William Shatner is that he was very skilled at playing his favorite character…..William Shatner.

    •ï¿½Agree: Hacienda
  • dfordoom says: •ï¿½Website
    @Jeff Stryker
    @dfordoom

    The problem is not that women abandoned children altogether, but that they had children out-of-wedlock as unwed teen mothers.

    Marriage disappeared, but kids on welfare increased.

    The original drugs like weak strains of marijuana were not really the problem. And heroin had been around for decades before the sixties. The problem was that the drug culture opened the door to crack cocaine and meth, which destroyed millions of lives.

    Its hard to believe how naive Americans are, Each invasion is estimated to last 10 days. Then it drags on for 10 years.

    The collateral damage is to allies who accept refugees. Australian is overrun by Vietnamese, for example.

    Crime has actually decreased. Not because minorities are better socialized, but because of prison sentences. Nowadays, criminals are caught and imprisoned sooner rather than later.

    AIDS is a gay disease. It is possible to catch it from a woman, but less so.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    AIDS is a gay disease. It is possible to catch it from a woman, but less so.

    It would be more accurate to say that AIDS is a disease spread by sodomy. It is possible to catch it from vaginal sex, but it’s very very very unlikely. Degenerate heterosexuals who practise sodomy can however spread it.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    @dfordoom

    Actually, its probably more easy to catch AIDS from an HIV positive woman through anal sex than an HIV positive male because a woman's anus is smaller and more likely to tear.

    I recall back in 2004 an HIV positive porn actress infected two males during a "double anal" scene. She was aware that she had AIDS, in fact.

    So indeed, if you're heterosexual and that far down into the rabbit hole of extreme sexual practices like "double anal" then indeed you're much more likely to acquire AIDS.

    But most heterosexuals don't have anal sex with strangers. Except prostitutes, of course. And many heterosexual men have contracted AIDS from them.

    What can you say, being a sexual degenerate will open you up to tremendous risks.
  • dfordoom says: •ï¿½Website
    @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jeff Stryker


    Shatner was the Alpha dog man’s man you might have a few beers with. He has a bluff macho persona.
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    I liked him more as Denny Crane.

    By the way- and I don't want to offend anyone- I find all this Star Trek cult weird (and the show itself). To be completely honest, science fiction as a genre is ... well, not infantile, but: adolescent?

    Yes.

    When I was in my early 20s (and in adolescence), I've read many sci-fi "classics". I liked Asimov, Clarke, Stapledon, Matthiesen (sp?), some Heinlein, and above all, Stanislaw Lem, who leaves all others in the dust.

    I didn't care for Le Guin & Herbert & Gibson.

    Movies & TV?

    Kubrick's magnum opus remains the best, after all these years, and many other films are still watchable (most of the Alien franchise). Also, Matrix 1 was good.

    But- Star Trek?

    The same goes for Tolkien, vampire stuff etc.

    At best, a comedy.

    Replies: @Jeff Stryker, @ChuckOrloski, @dfordoom

    Stanislaw Lem, who leaves all others in the dust.

    I agree with you about Lem. Great writer.

    I think you’re a bit hard on science fiction. There’s science fiction and science fiction. Some of it is intelligent and cerebral, some of it is fun adventure stuff, some of it is trash. Since the 70s most TV and movie science fiction has been pretty awful. There were some extremely good science fiction movies in the 70s and even into the 80s – Colossus: The Forbin Project, Solaris (the original Russian one not the godawful Hollywood remake), The Andromeda Strain, the John Carpenter version of The Thing, Blade Runner, A Clockwork Orange. Even some of the lesser 70s sci-fi movies had their moments (Westworld, even Demon Seed).

    Star Trek TOS was mostly fun and occasionally clever and even quite thoughtful. There were some cringe-inducing episodes but mostly it was pretty good entertainment.

    TNG was dull and preachy and took itself too seriously. I really hated the TNG crew. Picard was a pompous ass. And having an empath aboard – dear God.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @dfordoom

    It is difficult to rate sci-fi films & series because they, more than other genres, are dependent on the cinema technology, so to speak.

    Even dramas from, say, 1950s, 60s, 70s...now seem, most of them, rather odd (dialogs, acting, ...). Sci fi - even more. Older sci fi had better ideas and, perhaps, more freedom. Yet, most of it is now visually anachronistic.

    In past 2 or more decades, filmmakers' visual arsenal is something old guys could only dream of. But- they lack guts, balls. And, they're mostly illiterate, uncultured & dumb.

    What they have in abundance is almost compulsive urge to preach idiotic ultra-liberal gospel, something which has nothing to do with our reality or even projected "reality".

    Shallow, false, fake, lying, cowardly, corrupt, sleazy... that's how I would characterize modern movie sci fi.

    Replies: @dfordoom
  • “I am sad to say that Mr. Durocher’s description of Silicon Valley is outdated. I am at a prominent high-tech company, with decades in that business. Today, there is a quota for promoting women and Africans, at all technical grade levels, especially the upper ones. ”

    This might have some value i not were one little observation. That you believe that whites engaged in ,meritocracy even among themselves. I have no doubt that if not a sing;e black were a group of promotions — whites male and female would still be standing around looking at each other dumbfounded about the choices.

    •ï¿½Replies: @anobserver
    @EliteCommInc.

    Dear EliteCommInc: Yes you are right. But in the case of white women, I have seen increasing promotions based on gender. There was always the odd promotion of a white male, based on the fact that he is well-connected, and well-liked. But these were rarer, and not as systemic as the race-based and gender-based promotions of today.

    I left out Hispanics: In many cases, these are essentially white (Spaniards), but with the politically-correct surname. I have perceived such males be promoted, in order to score a check mark in the “Hispanic†column of the quota ledger. All of this is an inevitable consequence of a society of groups with disparate capabilities, where the standards eventually decline to meet the mean.
  • dfordoom says: •ï¿½Website
    @Feryl
    @Wally

    Jews are also more likely to admit to being gay relative to other ethnic groups. On the general social survey, black Boomers report being less gay than later generations of blacks. It's not that Boomers are less gay (same sex behavior among males is pretty consistent from generation to another), it's that since circa 1990 black Americans have been more accepting of homosexuality (as are all ethnic groups, come to think of it). So Gen X/Millennial/Gen Z blacks are more comfortable publicly identifying as gay. But older generations of blacks are still uncomfortable about the issue.

    That being said, since Jews are by far the most culturally liberal group, to this day, it shouldn't be surprising that they have the weakest taboos regarding the reporting of one's sexual identity.

    *If being gay was "taught" and was dictated by fashion, then you'd expect exponential growth in homosexuality with each generation. But that isn't happening with males. We didn't go from 5% of Boomer males being gay, to 10% of Gen X being gay, to 20 % of Millennials, and so on. On the GSS, white males of all generations report similar levels of same sex behavior. Females are another story. Since the late 80's moral panic about sexual harassment and other forms of "unwanted/unwelcome" intimacy , girls have been conditioned to be afraid of males, so naturally, late Gen X girls have done the lesbian thing more than older generations did, Millennial girls are gayer than Gen X was, and Gen Z's rate of lesbian behavior is off the charts. Ironically, actual sexual abuse by males has declined considerably over the last 25 years**. So the increasingly frigid relationship between males and females is causing lots of males to keep their pants on (and their hands to themselves) while the gals go gay.

    **Boomers and early-mid Gen X were responsible for massive levels of both consensual and non-consensual sex in the late 1960's-1990's. But late Gen X and the Millennials have been responsible for a sexual counter-revolution, increased lesbianism and porn consumption, sure, but far less sexual activity over-all compared to older generations.

    Replies: @Wally, @dfordoom

    Boomers and early-mid Gen X were responsible for massive levels of both consensual and non-consensual sex in the late 1960’s-1990’s. But late Gen X and the Millennials have been responsible for a sexual counter-revolution, increased lesbianism and porn consumption, sure, but far less sexual activity over-all compared to older generations.

    Is that necessarily a good thing? Maybe it is and maybe it isn’t but I think the question has to be asked. Has lesbianism and porn made people happier than all that illicit sex that the Boomers supposedly had? Has it made society healthier?

    We may disapprove of the Sexual Revolution of the 60s and 70s (and remember that the Sexual Revolution was a creation of the Silent Generation not the Boomers) but disapproval is not enough. It’s necessary to show actual evidence that it was harmful.

    I’m not arguing that the Sexual Revolution was harmless or that it was a good thing, merely pointing out that an argument that it was harmful has to be backed by evidence.

    The same applies to the Sexual Counter-Revolution (assuming that it’s real and not a media artifact) – an argument in its favour needs the backing of actual evidence. Does such evidence exist?

    •ï¿½Replies: @Flubber
    @dfordoom

    Has lesbianism and porn made people happier?

    Well lesbianism doesn't. Lesbian relationships exhibit the highest rates of domestic violence.

    Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Feryl
    @dfordoom


    Is that necessarily a good thing? Maybe it is and maybe it isn’t but I think the question has to be asked. Has lesbianism* and porn made people happier than all that illicit sex that the Boomers supposedly had? Has it made society healthier?
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    People are not happy right now, but that's mostly because they don't have good leadership, are alienated, etc. WRT sex, all the evidence indicates that the fewer people you screw, the better off you are psychologically . The Abrahamic religions have been right all along. But the neo-lib Right and the subversive Left are both delusional; the former has never recognized that rising inequality makes it impossible to sustain a family (or even have one at all), the latter still says that the destruction of the trad. family is an achievement.

    We may disapprove of the Sexual Revolution of the 60s and 70s (and remember that the Sexual Revolution was a creation of the Silent Generation not the Boomers**) but disapproval is not enough. It’s necessary to show actual evidence that it was harmful.
    �
    It was disastrous medically, socially, psychologically, etc. The Silent and Boomer generations had to constantly make up complete bull-shit about how "unhappy" everyone was when Lost and GI elders (who were born during the Gilded Age and came to reject Gilded Age libertine norms as older adults) were telling people to not do drugs, not sleep around, not get divorced, not give into passions, etc. Not surprisingly, later Gen X-ers and further generations are trying, to the opposition of today's older adults, to re-build the behavioral boundaries that were shattered in the late 60's and 70's.

    *chicks can always get laid, but since the late 80's they've been socialized to be afraid of "loser" or "dangerous" males. So their lustful urges are being directed at other girls to a much greater degree these days. And with ever rising inequality the situation isn't going to improve.

    **These two generations were born during a time of rapid progress and wholesome culture, so of course they took it all for granted and presided over a transition toward chaos, decadence, etc. It's been noted by many that our current problems began in earnest in the 1970's and 80's when the Silent Gen began to usurp the GI Gen (and the Silent Gen is still hanging on, BTW) while Boomers did virtually nothing to stop most of these bad trends.

    Replies: @dfordoom
  • @Digital Samizdat
    I grew up in the 70s watching the original series in syndication, and I used to watch TNG somewhat regularly in highschool, but nothing after that. Looks like I haven't missed much ... more SJW garbage, just like everything else coming out of Hollywood anymore.

    There is an episode where he points out that Ferengi at their worst aren’t as bad as humans have been in recent memory – no genocides or slavery or concentration camps. Quark is supposed to represent much that is wrong with the contemporary world. He is also representative of the writers’ moral relativism – bad guy isn’t all that bad depending on perspective.
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    Back in highschool, the old dark legend about the Ferengi is that they were supposed to represent the Jews. But later when I was in college, I was exposed to a different idea entirely. I was once watching an episode in my dorm room when my roommate came in and started watching it with me. He was from Pakistan, and when the Ferengi appeared on screen, he looked at me and started laughing mischievously. 'What is it?' I ask him. He told me that in Urdu, ferengi was a derogatory term for a whiteboy. 'One of the writers of that show,' he speculated, 'must be from Pakistan or India, and somehow this got past the producers!' (I lost track of the plot of the show after that, as I spent the next half-hour or so asking him about other racist and derogatory terms in Urdu.)

    I thought his theory was kind of far-fetched at the time, but given what the author wrote above, maybe they were just breaking us in gradually to the coming SJW reality--even back then.

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @PiltdownMan

    It doesn’t seem to be all that derogatory. Googling the term brings up an Indian movie with that title, and a television series, as well, that uses the word in its title.

  • @dfordoom
    You have to remember that when Star Trek was conceived in the mid-60s its liberal technological utopian vision of the future seemed not only plausible but probable. At that time the evidence suggested that the liberal model was working and would go on working.

    It seemed likely that race relations would continue to improve gradually. Feminism was around but sounded pretty reasonable - if a girl wanted to be an engineer why shouldn't she be able to do it? Why shouldn't women have careers? The Sexual Revolution was already underway but it seemed like it was going to be generally a good thing. Censorship was loosening but in 1966 porn meant girlie magazines like Playboy which appeared to be (and in fact were) pretty innocuous. Social liberalism really did seem like a very good idea.

    In 1966 it seemed certain that prosperity would go on increasing. The idea that in a couple of centuries there would be so much prosperity that everyone could easily be given a fair share seemed almost certain. Technological progress seemed unstoppable.

    In 1966 nobody could have predicted the disasters that would wreck this scheme - the poisoning of race relations, increasing crime rates, the explosion of the drug culture, the trauma of the Vietnam War, the oil crisis. Nobody could have foreseen that so many women would abandon the idea of marriage and children altogether. Nobody could have foreseen that relations between men and women would become poisonous. Nobody could have foreseen the scale of the excesses that lead to the AIDS disaster.

    In retrospect we might think it was naïve but all the evidence at the time suggested that the optimism of Star Trek was justified.

    The problem was that when TNG hit the airwaves in 1987 liberals were still clinging to their optimism. But to be fair, in 1987 it still seemed possible that it might work despite the setbacks of the preceding 20 years..

    Replies: @Jeff Stryker

    The problem is not that women abandoned children altogether, but that they had children out-of-wedlock as unwed teen mothers.

    Marriage disappeared, but kids on welfare increased.

    The original drugs like weak strains of marijuana were not really the problem. And heroin had been around for decades before the sixties. The problem was that the drug culture opened the door to crack cocaine and meth, which destroyed millions of lives.

    Its hard to believe how naive Americans are, Each invasion is estimated to last 10 days. Then it drags on for 10 years.

    The collateral damage is to allies who accept refugees. Australian is overrun by Vietnamese, for example.

    Crime has actually decreased. Not because minorities are better socialized, but because of prison sentences. Nowadays, criminals are caught and imprisoned sooner rather than later.

    AIDS is a gay disease. It is possible to catch it from a woman, but less so.

    •ï¿½Replies: @dfordoom
    @Jeff Stryker


    AIDS is a gay disease. It is possible to catch it from a woman, but less so.
    �
    It would be more accurate to say that AIDS is a disease spread by sodomy. It is possible to catch it from vaginal sex, but it's very very very unlikely. Degenerate heterosexuals who practise sodomy can however spread it.

    Replies: @Jeff Stryker
  • @Anon242

    BTW did you see the 2015 movie Trumbo? Opinion?

    I saw Trumbo. Terrific performance by Brian Cranston, but I can’t get invested in a movie where the “hero†is a red.

  • @James J. O'Meara
    Nice, until you slipped in that "Israel es muy macho" hasbara stuff at the end, which of course was the whole point. Clever.

    Meanwhile, as usual, the Israeli press can speak the truth:

    https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/israel-is-the-gayest-country-on-earth/

    Replies: @Anonymous, @SFG, @Father O'Hara, @TimeTraveller, @Tucker, @Bardon Kaldian, @Candide III

    > Times of Israel
    > Israeli press
    Nice job, linking a left-wing English-language CIA rag as “Israeli press”. Did you read the actual article, or only the title? The article opens with “let’s turn to Mahatma Gandhi, one of the greatest and wisest leaders in human history”! Pfui.

  • Dumbo says:

    I never watched much of any of the several iterations of Star Trek. Maybe I just wasn’t that much of an sci-fi nerd, or I was born in the wrong time. But I can see the appeal of the older series, while the new ones… I don’t know who would watch that crap.

    Actually, films and series (and commercials!) with annoying bossy females and bumbling males are very common these days, not only in Star Trek. I doubt there is anything that people hate more. Men obviously hate that, but women don’t seem to like it either (what they really love is womanly women stories like Little Women or Sense and Sensibility).

    So who is the target public? Bitter lesbians?

    Seriously, NO ONE likes to watch bossy women and dumb men. It’s cringy. It’s anti-natural.

  • @niceland
    IMDB score, just for fun.
    The Next Generation: 8.6
    The Original Series: 8.3
    Deep Space Nine: 7.9
    Voyager: 7.8
    Picard: 7.7
    Enterprise: 7.5
    Discovery: 7.3

    Replies: @Sin City Milla

    Logarithmic?

  • H. E. says:

    I enjoyed the article but there was one omission on the original series I’d like to correct. There were four main characters not three as Divine Right said. Those four represented the four parts of the human psyche according to Jung. I’m convinced this was intentional on Roddenberry’s part.

    Spock was obviously the intellect. Bones, the doctor always reacted emotionally – so represents the emotions. Scotty ran the ship so he is the physical or body. Captain Kirk represents the spirit. In that light the Enterprise becomes the human psyche encountering life. Each episode represents a particular human experience.

    I learned this when I was watching the first season, and it gave a depth of meaning beyond just the adventure and technology. That’s almost unique in a TV series.
    Captain Kirk always consulted with at least one of the other three before making any important decision. They disagreed, often intensely – especially Bones and Spock – but ultimately acted as a unit.

    The characters were consistent throughout the original series. I recommend watching a few episodes to see if you agree. To me that subtle meaning behind the adventure is the quality that got lost along the way.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Big Al
    @H. E.

    Great observation.
  • dfordoom says: •ï¿½Website
    @Tom Delsan
    >>"Michael is a unisex name, like Leslie or Evelyn or Taylor."

    Raise your hand if you've ever heard of a female named Michael prior to ST:D.... anyone?

    While babynamewizard.com indicates that yes, there are some people who saddled their daughter with the name "Michael", at it's absolute peak last decade, it only ranked #747th most popular among girl names.

    Replies: @Sir Isaac Newton, @aandrews, @dfordoom

    >>â€Michael is a unisex name, like Leslie or Evelyn or Taylor.â€

    Raise your hand if you’ve ever heard of a female named Michael prior to ST:D…. anyone?

    Michael Steele, bass player for The Bangles. There was also actress Michael Learned.

    It’s not a common girl’s name but it’s not that wildly uncommon either. Since girls named Michael are probably mostly going to refer to themselves as Miki or something similar it’s possibly more common than you think.

  • Usura says:

    This rang true:

    […] the past, in many ways, was better than the present and probably will end up being better than the near future. That’s intolerable to a lot of political extremists, the very people who put us in this position in the first place. So, the past has to be destroyed; it serves as a foil to the current reigning madness. “Let the past die, kill it if you have to.†That’s why pop culture had to be denigrated. That’s why Star Trek is trash nowadays.

    I am reminded of the words of Roger Scruton:

    “One of the saddest things about the modern world, partly a result of television, is that people live in a tiny time slice of the present moment, which they carry forward with them, but nothing remains. And there’s nothing in their experience which reverberates down the centuries, because the centuries to them are completely dark, just un-illumined corridors from which they stagger into the single little sliver of light”.

    Related: in the last ten years of television there has been an obvious increase in the depiction of tribalism among whites. This started with Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy, Peaky Blinders, and recently the show Ozark uses the same formula. Often there are narratives of class re-union in these shows; the wealthy chemist or businessman befriends the local salt of the earth drug dealer, and they develop a synergy and prosper. Would any of these shows have been thinkable thirty years ago?

    It’s clear big money is aware of where the instincts of Netflix watching whites are headed; they want tribal unity, they are sick of being gutless pansies, they want to believe they are capable of violence and wresting destiny from the ether. These narratives are provided, but at the price of being poisoned: the show Peaky Blinders, for instance, after hooking whites with three seasons of heroic family struggle, and some genuine loving relationships, injects an explicit anti-fascist narrative, where the hero is made the foil of none other than Oswald Moseley. There are several scenes in the latest season where Moseley quotes the philosophy of Nietzsche, and the hero quotes back at him the psychology of Freud. I find it another instructive example of how white-positive messaging is used by media as a carrier for a neutralizing memetic enzyme.

  • dfordoom says: •ï¿½Website

    You have to remember that when Star Trek was conceived in the mid-60s its liberal technological utopian vision of the future seemed not only plausible but probable. At that time the evidence suggested that the liberal model was working and would go on working.

    It seemed likely that race relations would continue to improve gradually. Feminism was around but sounded pretty reasonable – if a girl wanted to be an engineer why shouldn’t she be able to do it? Why shouldn’t women have careers? The Sexual Revolution was already underway but it seemed like it was going to be generally a good thing. Censorship was loosening but in 1966 porn meant girlie magazines like Playboy which appeared to be (and in fact were) pretty innocuous. Social liberalism really did seem like a very good idea.

    In 1966 it seemed certain that prosperity would go on increasing. The idea that in a couple of centuries there would be so much prosperity that everyone could easily be given a fair share seemed almost certain. Technological progress seemed unstoppable.

    In 1966 nobody could have predicted the disasters that would wreck this scheme – the poisoning of race relations, increasing crime rates, the explosion of the drug culture, the trauma of the Vietnam War, the oil crisis. Nobody could have foreseen that so many women would abandon the idea of marriage and children altogether. Nobody could have foreseen that relations between men and women would become poisonous. Nobody could have foreseen the scale of the excesses that lead to the AIDS disaster.

    In retrospect we might think it was naïve but all the evidence at the time suggested that the optimism of Star Trek was justified.

    The problem was that when TNG hit the airwaves in 1987 liberals were still clinging to their optimism. But to be fair, in 1987 it still seemed possible that it might work despite the setbacks of the preceding 20 years..

    •ï¿½Replies: @Jeff Stryker
    @dfordoom

    The problem is not that women abandoned children altogether, but that they had children out-of-wedlock as unwed teen mothers.

    Marriage disappeared, but kids on welfare increased.

    The original drugs like weak strains of marijuana were not really the problem. And heroin had been around for decades before the sixties. The problem was that the drug culture opened the door to crack cocaine and meth, which destroyed millions of lives.

    Its hard to believe how naive Americans are, Each invasion is estimated to last 10 days. Then it drags on for 10 years.

    The collateral damage is to allies who accept refugees. Australian is overrun by Vietnamese, for example.

    Crime has actually decreased. Not because minorities are better socialized, but because of prison sentences. Nowadays, criminals are caught and imprisoned sooner rather than later.

    AIDS is a gay disease. It is possible to catch it from a woman, but less so.

    Replies: @dfordoom
  • Hacienda says:
    @Jeff Stryker
    @Hacienda

    Well then, what was Shatner's persona?

    Seemed bluff and hearty to me.

    Whether in a slasher like "Visiting Hours" (Nobody will remember this, I am sure) or "Kingdom of the Spiders" (Some of you might remember that).

    How would Shatner's persona be described?

    Replies: @Hacienda

    Only saw Shatner in ST and the Twilight Zone episode. Very underrated actor. If you mean Shatner in the roles he played, sure he’s man’s man. I never saw him that way because he’s playing a role specifically for boys. Too much mischief and dancing of eyes. I think it was one from his bag of actor’s tricks to draw the audience in. Nothing wrong with that, he made a fortune for himself and the franchise. And he’s still a spry 89, which is remarkable in itself. Good for him, and nice to have a star from my childhood still around.

    •ï¿½Replies: @fish
    @Hacienda

    Best thing about William Shatner is that he was very skilled at playing his favorite character.....William Shatner.
  • @ChuckOrloski
    @Wally

    Trump Trekked Wally said: "Jews more than twice as likely to be gay, lesbian."

    Uh... they like well heeled & Alpha No Tellya' Shabbos goy/shiksa lovers?

    Refer to sweetie Centurion & his Clingon, Roy Cohn, image, below?

    https://images.app.goo.gl/oLJMm3G9TyDDQKxe6

    Replies: @dindunuffins, @Wally

    – Bolshevik Bernie supporter ChuckOrlowski still clueless after all these years.

  • Feryl says: •ï¿½Website
    @fightapathy
    I suppose the truly shocking thing about this essay is how it puts TNG into a positive light -- not merely by comparison to its horror-show successors. I was a loyal watcher of TNG when it was being produced, but I found it to be crammed with over-the-top liberal activism. It wasn't just liberal. It was aggressively so. Every week I found myself exasperated by some new liberal outrage being promoted, from tranny aliens (played by the lady who played Amy Allen on the A-Team) to a fanatical eco-terrorist who blows herself up to teach the universe the dangers of warp drive (commended later on by Picard et al. for "being right about her cause"). One vomit-inducing liberal "moral message" after another.

    Yet, the author is entirely correct about the attractiveness of the show. For all the liberal activist messaging, the characters were indeed gripping and familiar and likable and honorable. The sets and stages were entertaining. The tech talk led to places in the script. It was an enjoyable ride, even if it included irritating leftist doctrine. Heck, I kept tuning each week, no matter how outrageous it became.

    Not so with these new shows. I quit in the middle of DS9 and never dared look again. Those clips provided above are impossible to watch. IMPOSSIBLE. They are torture. I got through 40 seconds of one and will not dare click another. I never watched a shooting spree video or ISIS beheading video. I certainly will not do psychological damage to myself by watching this garbage.

    Yet SOMEONE must be watching, or else it would not be made. Right? Who IS watching, by the way? The target audience is described as white male. But if TNG is available to download, why would anyone ever bother with this new diarrhea? It boggles the mind....

    Replies: @Feryl

    “For all the liberal activist messaging, the characters were indeed gripping and familiar and likable and honorable. The sets and stages were entertaining. The tech talk led to places in the script. It was an enjoyable ride, even if it included irritating leftist doctrine. Heck, I kept tuning each week, no matter how outrageous it became.”

    You could make a good argument that ST: the Next Gen was, and still is, some of the best produced TV ever done. The costumes, props, and visual effects still look pretty good (and recent re-masters upgraded some of the effects to be even better), and the sets were well above par for genre TV. The color film stock still looks great, esp. after HD re-mastering, whereas the 60’s show will always be plagued by the awful color film stock and camera equipment that was used for 60’s TV. The stuff produced since the late 2000’s will always look like crap because digital cameras will never come close to duplicating the pleasing image that the film cameras and film stock of the late 80’s and 90’s produced.

    •ï¿½Agree: Black Picard
    •ï¿½Replies: @anon
    @Feryl


    The stuff produced since the late 2000’s will always look like crap because digital cameras will never come close to duplicating the pleasing image that the film cameras and film stock of the late 80’s and 90’s produced.
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    I'm glad that someone else noticed this. The newer shows ... look bad, despite the production values. There are chroma issues, color saturation issues, color casts everywhere, bizarre and uncomfortable lighting choices, lens flaring, etc. I find that's an issue with a lot of movies these days.
  • @Jeff Stryker
    @Al Liguori

    Nimoy invented that on the set-he'd seen rabbis in his Boston Jewish neighborhood do it.

    That's no secret, in later years Nimoy explained this.

    The screenwriters didn't think that up, Nimoy improved it.

    Replies: @ChuckOrloski

    Below, Leonard Nimoy, and the Jewish story behind Spock.


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