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    Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • Looger says:

    In “X-COM UFO Defense” I actually end up selling most of my E-115 on the open market.

    I found the key to that game was to NOT have so many expensive troop carriers, maybe two squads each covering half the earth. You need some E-115 to build and fuel the last stage transports which do use reverse-engineered UFO technology.

    What does help is to have lots of small airbases, stack them full of the old interceptors which can be upgraded with better weapons almost right till the infamous “Mars Mission.” When one interceptor finds a UFO, it’s basically frozen in place by the game until the other ones join up.

    A note on base design for all those hangars you need for these interceptors: Have only one room next to each hangar, that way when the aliens attack you can bottle them up. Once my squaddies make sergeant (especially the low psychic ability ones) I move them to base defense. Two sergeants plus a rocket tank / laser tank combo usually does the trick (tanks are just RC tripwires). If they have decent armor and heavy plasmas as well as rockets and laser rifles for backup it’ll be enough to hold your bases.

    A note on weapons: almost all of them are worthless! Keep heavy plasma only, don’t even research the other ones, rifles and pistols. Also switch your clips before they run out and they magically replenish next mission (love that E-115). Early on use rifles, rockets, and when you get them laser pistols and laser rifles (rocket troops get a laser pistol for backup). Some creatures like Mutons can survive laser fire so just blast them with rockets.

    Important: Early on you want to research and reproduce the UFO stun bombs. When you go to a terror attack event, just stun-bomb every civilian you see and the aliens ignore them. Cuts down on the deaths.

    Rocket the shit out of those terror cities – for some reason the enemy hovers around gas stations (kablooey).

    Early on is really the most fun, just ignore all the heavy weapons and outfit every trooper with a rifle, and a grenade with the pin pulled. Space everyone out and don’t get too attached. Go slow and leave everyone ‘reaction time’ and in the kneeling position, behind cover if possible. THe survivors will shoot straight, the ones who die when the enemy blindsides them will take them with them when that grenade goes off after their corpse drops it.

    There’s probably more to it but ignore most of the tech trees, sell off everything you don’t need, and remember – more bases with mroe radars is better than huge vulnerable bases with death trap hangars (two or more rooms beside them)

    •ï¿½LOL: littlereddot
  • The understanding of the AI subject has to begin with the closure of the Nuclear Research and Development Station (NRDS) between 1968 and 1972.

    The NRDS was going strong, full and active, testing Nuclear Rocket Engines until one day the entire operation was summarily shut down – with no advance warning; from alive and viable and important to non-existent – all in less than six weeks.

    I posit that something ‘better’ took the place of nuclear energy to power rockets so the NRDS was no longer needed.

    I also posit that Element 115 had been discovered in the tunnels in Area 12 by at least 1965; and that a stable, synthetic form of Element 115 was created there by 1968. If Element 115 was found to be suitable for UFO-powered flight, then the Nuclear portion of the NRDS would have no further purpose in being alive.

    If we take the statements of Ben Rich made between 1988 and 1992 when he passed, it seems obvious that one event overshadowed the other and that the new discovery of Element 115 in its synthetic, stable form was the key.

    Area 51 could have been a Mars or Venus 20 level deep underground launch pad since easily 1965.
    [This implies “dual concurrent space programsâ€: one secret, military and space oriented; the other known, public, and Moon Faked.]

    Being many stories underground would provide sight-access security and secrecy; an underground space launch facility at Area 51 coupled with a similar facility at Vandenburg AFB would allow for the launching of numerous rockets to unknown destinations with little or no fanfare.

    If Element 115 was discovered by 1965, that would also have provided sufficient impetus to develop the codes necessary to drive, or fly the vehicles. Thus the CIA at Area 51 could have developed AI 30-60 years in advance of what it being touted now as “AIâ€.

    And neither the CIA nor the USAF would have any reason to tell you and me about any of this. Nor would it be published in any public domain scientific journals.

    But folks like you and me CAN look at various historical events and try to make some sense of them.

    The sudden closure of the NRDS and its relation to Element 115 is one of those events that needs to be looked at in a new, fresh and different way.

  • Ron Unz recently noted “the sharp decline in quality of the New York Times.†He might have added that we can still learn things from the Times by reading between the lines, the way Soviet-era Russians read Tass and Pravda. That’s a good way to read today’s David Lynch obituary. The Times, like the rest...
  • 9/11 committed by evil joooz and their evil honky friends.
    That’s where the blame lies.
    The vast majority of honkyz don’t really know the amount of power, jooooz have over the usa and world in general.

  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • @anno nimus
    there maybe a method behind the conspiracy madness. the rulers are intent in perpetuating their global Empire, surprise! the Empire is carried on the backs of ordinary folk who have to keep the machine running smoothly by providing their sweat and blood. however, if the people come to the Ultimate Truth they may start to wonder why? or what for? so, to keep them from searching and finding the Ultimate Truth, the people have to be kept constantly distracted by rumors, fables of ufo sightings, porno, drugs, punk rock, death metal, violence depicting 'entertainment' etc etc. the rulers have sold their souls in exchange for earthly power and gain, and they want to make sure as many souls as possible will join them in perdition. they call their Empire "democracy" and all of the above nonsense "freedom". the worst are full of passion but the best lack conviction.

    St. John 3
    18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
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    Replies: @Brad Anbro, @Low-carb Political Movement

    You are right about the music of the masses, and they don’t even listen to revolutionary philosophical smart music bands like The Doors, Rush, Tool, Rage Against The Machine, Chuck Mangioni, Public Enemy, Pink Floyd, Sex Pistols, that would lead to a global anarchist revolution, music which would increase the warrior revolutionary instincts in people

  • Ron Unz recently noted “the sharp decline in quality of the New York Times.†He might have added that we can still learn things from the Times by reading between the lines, the way Soviet-era Russians read Tass and Pravda. That’s a good way to read today’s David Lynch obituary. The Times, like the rest...
  • It wasn’t the “American” government behind the 911/anthrax attacks

    It was Israelis with the help of American traitors

    Who benefited from the US entangling itself in the ME because of the 911 false flag attack?

    Only fake Jews and Israel

    •ï¿½Agree: anarchyst
  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • The good thing about this website of Ron Unz, is that it is an alternative news site with a comment section that exercises a libertarian democratic freedom of ideas. Other websites that i am also a member of and who hate oppressive governments, exercise an oppressive censorship of ideas. Like The World Socialist Website http://www.wsws.org

    I still participate in The World Socialist Website, they are trotskists anti-stalin, but since i am an ultra-skeptic scientific evidence-based anti-dogma person, i also have my suspicion against Trotskists and Leon Trotsky. That website even though it is great and full of great articles, it is too authoritarian, too anti-democratic, too anti freedom of speech, I bet that people like Andrew Anglin won’t be able to write comments there, because the moderators of that site only let comments from a pure trotskist point of view. So really I wouldn’t want a government ruled by them.

    That’s why i have evolved from a capitalist-reformist, toward a socialist and lately toward anarchist anti-state libertarian, as the best political system for people who love total freedom and no lies.

    And i prefer this website a lot more than World Socialist Website, because even though it includes articles and ideas from the right-wing, center, and left-wing it is nevertheless a website that defends the little guy, the lower classes, the oppressed of the whole world, inluding palestinians, africans white poor people, etc. and best of all it exercises democratic freedom of ideas

    And even though i love the UFO extraterrestrial phenomenon so much and even though i am a believer in life in the universe, I think that Richard Dolan’s new book posted here from Amazon in this article “UFO’s for the 21st Century Mind” is just too damn expensive. I know that the US dollar itself has less buying power and it has experienced a devaluation and making books must be expensive. But still I think that 30 dollars for a UFO book is just too much https://www.amazon.com/UFOs-21st-Century-Mind-Definitive/dp/B0CG7FSTQK/

    So even though i still support many of the Dr. Richard Dolan’s claims in his new book, I still have my suspicions about the real objectives of Richard Dolan, if it he is really interested in finding the truth abbout extraterrestrial or wether he is just aiming to increase his personal wealth

  • It has been clear since the terror attacks in New York and Washington on Sept. 11, 2001 — the date I choose to mark a great turn in the global order — that America’s abdication of its postwar hegemony was to rank high among the 21st century’s defining events. The questions from that day onward...
  • What is completely missing is the fact that the Army of Ukraine CANNOT just fire ATACMS, HIMARS, or StormShadow missiles. The operation of those missiles is highly classified and they can only be aimed and fired by AMERICAN and British military, active duty. They are highly classified and the targets are selected by American reconnaissance. American military selected the targets to hit in Russia, the oil storage and oil refineries, the warehouses, the airbases, etc. I don’t know if the British just hit what the American military told them to hit or not, but the targets were not duplicated. It has been maximum damage inflicted on Russia industrial base not the electricity grid.
    If Putin had a set of balls and if Putin was not betraying the Russian people more everyday, he would destroy all the bridges over the Dnieper River, hit the Storm Shadow factories in England, NATO headquarters in Belgium, and every C-17 that landed in Ukraine, and sink every ship that docked in Poland with military supplies for Ukraine and every ship in the Black Sea bound for Odessa.

  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • @Chebyshev
    The Apollo Moon Landing Hoax is textbook cognitive infiltration.

    One small reason people might doubt the moon landing happened is that Apollo astronaut Neil Armstrong's line "one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind" is so iconic that it could've been part of a movie script.

    I'd highly recommend this episode of the podcast The Great Debates, in which the hosts debate whether faking the moon landing would've been harder than actually landing on the moon:

    https://greatdebates69.podbean.com/e/34-it-would-have-been-harder-to-fake-the-moon-landing-than-to-actually-go-to-the-moon/

    Replies: @notanonymousHere

    There might be spots where you have to do a bit of relativistic correctioning but going to the moon is AP high school physics. Tsiolkovsky did a lot of the heavy lifting and Von Braun knew a thing or two about rockets. Ground control to Major Tom.

  • Did advanced space aliens create humans? Do humans live in a computer simulation created by advanced space aliens? See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaSzGdqxOf4
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  • The Apollo Moon Landing Hoax is textbook cognitive infiltration.

    One small reason people might doubt the moon landing happened is that Apollo astronaut Neil Armstrong’s line “one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind” is so iconic that it could’ve been part of a movie script.

    I’d highly recommend this episode of the podcast The Great Debates, in which the hosts debate whether faking the moon landing would’ve been harder than actually landing on the moon:

    https://greatdebates69.podbean.com/e/34-it-would-have-been-harder-to-fake-the-moon-landing-than-to-actually-go-to-the-moon/

    •ï¿½Replies: @notanonymousHere
    @Chebyshev

    There might be spots where you have to do a bit of relativistic correctioning but going to the moon is AP high school physics. Tsiolkovsky did a lot of the heavy lifting and Von Braun knew a thing or two about rockets. Ground control to Major Tom.
  • Ron Unz recently noted “the sharp decline in quality of the New York Times.†He might have added that we can still learn things from the Times by reading between the lines, the way Soviet-era Russians read Tass and Pravda. That’s a good way to read today’s David Lynch obituary. The Times, like the rest...
  • When I read on Wikipedia that Lynch’s Dune was homophobic I was overjoyed. The world’s greatest film just got even better.

  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • To think “WHO,WHY” is more important than to think only “HOW”.
    Only “HOW” is a distraction from the substance.

  • Ron Unz recently noted “the sharp decline in quality of the New York Times.†He might have added that we can still learn things from the Times by reading between the lines, the way Soviet-era Russians read Tass and Pravda. That’s a good way to read today’s David Lynch obituary. The Times, like the rest...
  • Fortunately

    Mr Lynch was honest enough to say

    that the issues regarding 9/11 created a lot of questions but no real answers. I ha forgotten about “Straight Story” another delightful film, until I read the American Conservatice on Mr Lynch.

  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • @Been_there_done_that
    @Mr. Anon

    Your comments do not withstand logical scrutiny:

    The video clearly shows a dust cloud from pulverized concrete and drywall hanging in the air...
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    The gravitational effect upon the structural elements.could not have pulverized the concrete at the core and the floors into the fine dust-like granularity that was evident within a huge circumference beyond the building.

    The amount of drywall in the building was relatively trivial relative to the volume of dust that is evident in the image. Many floors had open offices (for instance financial trading floors) or cubicles to enhance the feeling of spaciousness and provide additional lighting from outside and views from the inside.

    Much of what is seen in the image of the north tower collapse, above, consists of condensing water vapor that had previously been bound within the concrete during mixing, before it was poured into shape on location during construction. The separation could not have been induced by gravity and must have occurred due to the extreme heat from within the building.

    The dust was not merely "hanging in the air", as you described it, but was flowing outward in a parabolic trajectory that includes an upward component on the right hand side in the first image, momentarily defying gravity.

    It looks exactly as I would expect it to look.
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    Your purported expectation cannot be derived from any empirical observations because what is documented in the images had never occurred before. Based on the physics, observers of the initial collapse of the south building could not have expected to see the top tilted portion of the building to have suddenly ended its rotation and then disintegrate into debris instead. We could have expected any initial pancake collapse near the top to have been absorbed by the remaining structural integrity beneath, and decelerate to a halt.

    Those jets out of the side of the building happened at the floors where the express elevators terminated.
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    The second image shows horizontal debris ejections in perpendicular directions within two or three floors of each other. The express elevators did not terminate within this difference in altitude, nor were the bottom portions of the shafts directly connected to the windows from which the jets exited. The volume of air on any particular floor could have absorbed any additional pressure coming from the shaft.

    if these jets were explosive charges, then why doesn’t the building start to fail just where and when those jets are seen?
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    No explosive charges placed on any floor could have in itself been sufficiently powerful to trigger a structural failure. There were reports of multiple explosions near the bottom of the buildings prior to the actual collapses. Even those shaped charges, which weakened the structure, did not induce a collapse.

    ...resorting to outlandish scenarios and bogus arguments informed by a glaring ignorance of basic physics and engineering.
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    From an engineering perspective it is not at all "outlandish" to engage in careful prior contingency planning and thorough physical preparation, including redundancies, if one wants to ensure that both towers are to be brought down, motivated by the desire to avoid tedious disassembly due to asbestos liabilities, a perceived need to create a public spectacle for promoting a war agenda, while blaming imaginary Arab hijackers, and then ultimately collect double payments from premiums by the German insurer. If merely flying drone aircraft into the side of each building by remote control (Plan A) were not sufficient, then one could additionally weaken the base structure and other crucial supports with explosives (Plan B); if that doesn't induce the desired collapse either, then there would remainsthe nuclear option (Plan C), based on small devices placed at the bottoms of the single freight elevator shafts in each of the twin buildings going all the way to the top. See the link in comment #933 above for the measured radiation evidence for this event having occurred. Plenty of other credible evidence has been reported in past threads here.

    The premise for wanting to collapse the towers is not in doubt. There was a failed attempt on February 26, 1993 to bring down the tower with a truck bomb in the garage. People had been hinting at this possibility during the months leading up to the event. The concept was featured in a television episode, in a video game: even Alex Jones announced the possibility weeks before, in what could be described as a comprehensive predictive programing effort, which also included the three hour movie Pearl Harbor, shown during the summer of 2001. Presumably some people in New York wanted to destroy the towers from the very beginning. See my previous quote (September 12, 2023 at 8:09 am GMT • 1.4 years ago) from Wikipedia:

    Construction of the World Trade Center (Wikipedia)

    Yamasaki, who had previously designed Saudi Arabia’s Dhahran International Airport with the Saudi Binladin Group, incorporated features of Arabic architecture into the design of the World Trade Center. The plaza was modelled after Mecca, incorporating features such as a vast delineated square, a fountain, and a radial circular pattern. Yamasaki described the plaza as “a mecca, a great relief from the narrow streets and sidewalks of the Wall Street area.†He also incorporated other features of Arabic architecture into the building design, including pointed arches, interweaving tracery of prefabricated concrete, a minaret like flight tower, and arabesque patterns.
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    Let's see if Donald Trump's new Justice Department has the guts to pursue the perpetrators.

    Replies: @skrik, @Mr. Anon

    Your comments do not withstand logical scrutiny:

    The gravitational effect upon the structural elements.could not have pulverized the concrete……………

    The amount of drywall in the building was relatively trivial…………….

    You’ve offered no logical scrutiny, merely a compendium of baseless assertions.

    For one thing there was plenty of gypsum in the WTC towers. Asbestos too. All of which is friable and easily turned to dust.

    https://www.fireengineering.com/fire-safety/the-world-trade-center-construction-and-collapse-part-2/

    Much of what is seen in the image of the north tower collapse, above, consists of condensing water vapor that had previously been bound within the concrete during mixing,…………..

    Nonsense. From thirty year-old concrete? And what would cause it to condense?

    The dust was not merely “hanging in the air“, as you described it, but was flowing outward in a parabolic trajectory that includes an upward component on the right hand side in the first image, momentarily defying gravity.

    A parabola? Really? You fit a curve to it? The dust was doing what dust does – hanging, floating, flowing.

    We could have expected any initial pancake collapse near the top to have been absorbed by the remaining structural integrity beneath, and decelerate to a halt.

    Utterly ridiculous.

    The volume of air on any particular floor could have absorbed any additional pressure coming from the shaft………..

    Another baseless assertion.

    if these jets were explosive charges, then why doesn’t the building start to fail just where and when those jets are seen?

    No explosive charges placed on any floor could have in itself been sufficiently powerful to trigger a structural failure………

    If merely flying drone aircraft into the side of each building by remote control (Plan A).

    There were no drone aircraft and they weren’t flown by remote control.

    I find it impossible to have an intelligent conversation with people who look at a video and see things that aren’t there.

  • Rumble link Bitchute link FFWN link At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. Sachs is a highbrow policy advisor who used to make top-100-most-important-people-in-the-world lists, but has lost his Establishment position after trumpeting unspeakable truths. Trump, for his part, is a middlebrow-at-best showman with a genius for mixing unspeakable...
  • Anonymous[444] •ï¿½Disclaimer says:

    This very interesting article tackles the only relevant question regarding the Trump new presidency. Is he in the know regarding the 9/11 responsibilities? If yes, the author concludes that Trump and Netanyahu are in a situation of a Mexican standoff, both being able to take down the other. Trump with the truth, Netanyahu with a method that already made its proof.

    However, it can be argued that, although it seems that they neutralize each other, chronology matters. As depending on whom pull the trigger first, the outcome might be radically different. Namely, both would have better to shoot first. Indeed, a potential revelation of the truth regarding the 9/11 by the Trump side would be effective insofar as he is still there and that his power is fairly well established. If Netanyahu pull the trigger first, Trump’s children and entourage might shout as loud as they want, any revelation will be moot and they will be unheard. Trump will be quickly replaced and forgotten, especially if J.D. Vance is a Lyndon B. Johnson. On the other hand, it would be less easy and effective for Netanyahu to get rid of Trump by any mean, if he already explicitly spoke about the 9/11 truth to the American people.

    But still, revealing the truth wouldn’t be easy for Trump, he would have to find out who to trust, and how to proceed to strengthen his ground discreetly. If Netanyahu is sure that Trump is in the know, he will certainly waste no time to JFK him, he will never take the risk to be exposed at any time. If Trump knows for 9/11 and Netanyahu knows it, something interesting might happen soon.

    If Netanyahu pull the trigger first, everything will go on as usual, after all, Trump was already once almost eliminated by a mere amateur. Nobody in the press or government will imagine or dare to accuse Tel-Aviv. If Trump manage to pull the trigger first, which is no small feat, let’s be grandiloquent, the course of the western world might be changed.

  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • OmK says:

    It is weird that there are several factions.

    Masterminds are clever.
    To cause confusion was in their plan
    from the beginning.

    They planned to use all kinds of weapons(thermite, usual bombs, Nuclear bombs, Directed Energy Weapons,…), to cause confusions and controversies.
    They are adepts of PsyOp(Deception).

    Why are people arguing about the types of weapons ?

    The purpose of using all kinds of weapons was to let people argue.

  • Ron Unz recently noted “the sharp decline in quality of the New York Times.†He might have added that we can still learn things from the Times by reading between the lines, the way Soviet-era Russians read Tass and Pravda. That’s a good way to read today’s David Lynch obituary. The Times, like the rest...
  • Riding subway trains in the evening of the fourteenth of this month, I saw our version of the little man from another place.

    He was careful not to show his face.

    My legs were tired, hours of walking that day, so we rode the elevator down to the metro line. I pressed and held the ‘open’ button to give him precedence, he gave a little salute to thank me for my politeness. Never showed his face.

    It was spooky, he was just like the little man from another place, except an introvert, not an extrovert.

    I think that some kind of synchrocity to do with David Lynch had been in play.

  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • skrik says:
    @Been_there_done_that
    @Mr. Anon

    Your comments do not withstand logical scrutiny:

    The video clearly shows a dust cloud from pulverized concrete and drywall hanging in the air...
    �
    The gravitational effect upon the structural elements.could not have pulverized the concrete at the core and the floors into the fine dust-like granularity that was evident within a huge circumference beyond the building.

    The amount of drywall in the building was relatively trivial relative to the volume of dust that is evident in the image. Many floors had open offices (for instance financial trading floors) or cubicles to enhance the feeling of spaciousness and provide additional lighting from outside and views from the inside.

    Much of what is seen in the image of the north tower collapse, above, consists of condensing water vapor that had previously been bound within the concrete during mixing, before it was poured into shape on location during construction. The separation could not have been induced by gravity and must have occurred due to the extreme heat from within the building.

    The dust was not merely "hanging in the air", as you described it, but was flowing outward in a parabolic trajectory that includes an upward component on the right hand side in the first image, momentarily defying gravity.

    It looks exactly as I would expect it to look.
    �
    Your purported expectation cannot be derived from any empirical observations because what is documented in the images had never occurred before. Based on the physics, observers of the initial collapse of the south building could not have expected to see the top tilted portion of the building to have suddenly ended its rotation and then disintegrate into debris instead. We could have expected any initial pancake collapse near the top to have been absorbed by the remaining structural integrity beneath, and decelerate to a halt.

    Those jets out of the side of the building happened at the floors where the express elevators terminated.
    �
    The second image shows horizontal debris ejections in perpendicular directions within two or three floors of each other. The express elevators did not terminate within this difference in altitude, nor were the bottom portions of the shafts directly connected to the windows from which the jets exited. The volume of air on any particular floor could have absorbed any additional pressure coming from the shaft.

    if these jets were explosive charges, then why doesn’t the building start to fail just where and when those jets are seen?
    �
    No explosive charges placed on any floor could have in itself been sufficiently powerful to trigger a structural failure. There were reports of multiple explosions near the bottom of the buildings prior to the actual collapses. Even those shaped charges, which weakened the structure, did not induce a collapse.

    ...resorting to outlandish scenarios and bogus arguments informed by a glaring ignorance of basic physics and engineering.
    �
    From an engineering perspective it is not at all "outlandish" to engage in careful prior contingency planning and thorough physical preparation, including redundancies, if one wants to ensure that both towers are to be brought down, motivated by the desire to avoid tedious disassembly due to asbestos liabilities, a perceived need to create a public spectacle for promoting a war agenda, while blaming imaginary Arab hijackers, and then ultimately collect double payments from premiums by the German insurer. If merely flying drone aircraft into the side of each building by remote control (Plan A) were not sufficient, then one could additionally weaken the base structure and other crucial supports with explosives (Plan B); if that doesn't induce the desired collapse either, then there would remainsthe nuclear option (Plan C), based on small devices placed at the bottoms of the single freight elevator shafts in each of the twin buildings going all the way to the top. See the link in comment #933 above for the measured radiation evidence for this event having occurred. Plenty of other credible evidence has been reported in past threads here.

    The premise for wanting to collapse the towers is not in doubt. There was a failed attempt on February 26, 1993 to bring down the tower with a truck bomb in the garage. People had been hinting at this possibility during the months leading up to the event. The concept was featured in a television episode, in a video game: even Alex Jones announced the possibility weeks before, in what could be described as a comprehensive predictive programing effort, which also included the three hour movie Pearl Harbor, shown during the summer of 2001. Presumably some people in New York wanted to destroy the towers from the very beginning. See my previous quote (September 12, 2023 at 8:09 am GMT • 1.4 years ago) from Wikipedia:

    Construction of the World Trade Center (Wikipedia)

    Yamasaki, who had previously designed Saudi Arabia’s Dhahran International Airport with the Saudi Binladin Group, incorporated features of Arabic architecture into the design of the World Trade Center. The plaza was modelled after Mecca, incorporating features such as a vast delineated square, a fountain, and a radial circular pattern. Yamasaki described the plaza as “a mecca, a great relief from the narrow streets and sidewalks of the Wall Street area.†He also incorporated other features of Arabic architecture into the building design, including pointed arches, interweaving tracery of prefabricated concrete, a minaret like flight tower, and arabesque patterns.
    �
    Let's see if Donald Trump's new Justice Department has the guts to pursue the perpetrators.

    Replies: @skrik, @Mr. Anon

    if that doesn’t induce the desired collapse either, then there would remainsthe nuclear option (Plan C), based on small devices placed at the bottoms of the single freight elevator shafts in each of the twin buildings going all the way to the top

    Bullshit

    “The internet exists to destroy bad information. Posting bullshit does not work anymore, …”
    ~Kratoklastes

    Here you were close

    Based on the physics, observers of the initial collapse of the south building could not have expected to see the top tilted portion of the building to have suddenly ended its rotation and then disintegrate into debris instead

    WTCs 1 & 2 were progressively, level by level, both downwards and upwards explosively disassembled, using conventional, most likely military-issue highest performance explosives. This fully explains the tilting upper section *not* appearing as a semi-intact remnant in/near the rubble pile. You are correct with the billowing pyroclastic clouds of powdered concrete plus dry-wall and other small particles, like human bone fragments and iron-rich micro spheres.

    Basta! We’ve been through it all before. No nukes, only ‘conventional’ explosives and those in massive quantities [hence the ‘hot-spots’ under 3 towers], *not* wishing to leave anything to chance since there could have been very little in the way of preliminary proving-trials. Nukes go BANG! [and debris goes everywhere from that point-source] – there were no such bangs, see Chandler’s North Tower vid [and listen to it – closely!]

    Now; I would like to pose this Q: Cui bono? Who benefits and how, for a few nutters to be ‘pushing’ ridiculous assertions 23+yrs down the track to challenge the AE911Truth consensus = ‘conventional’ explosives ‘controlled’ demolition?

    It’s astounding
    Time is fleeting
    Madness takes its toll
    But listen closely
    Not for very much longer

    No DEW, no dustify, no nukes [no planes optional]

    No further augment will come from me; the ‘sanity-incapable’ can go to hell forthwith.

  • Ron Unz recently noted “the sharp decline in quality of the New York Times.†He might have added that we can still learn things from the Times by reading between the lines, the way Soviet-era Russians read Tass and Pravda. That’s a good way to read today’s David Lynch obituary. The Times, like the rest...
  • @Brad Anbro
    I have watched Loose Change and many other videos about September 11, 2001 - including "no planes" videos. The video that I think is the best of all is this one - no hype, fanfare or dramatics. Just the apparent FACTS and observations. Video -
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tuAcRur_fA

    Thank you.

    Replies: @Kevin Barrett

    I agree that 9/11 Mysteries may be the best video intro to 9/11 by way of the demolitions issue. There is an interesting back story about how Bugsy Siegal’s nephew engaged the most powerful law firm in Chicago to harass the 9/11 Mysteries filmmaker for using a “proprietary” short clip of the demolitions filmed by someone who was probably set up to film them.

  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • @Mr. Anon
    @Been_there_done_that


    It appears as if though a huge volume of water is gushing outward like a fountain from inside the building.
    �
    In a still frame, out of context. The video clearly shows a dust cloud from pulverized concrete and drywall hanging in the air as the solid debris of the building falls through it. It looks exactly as I would expect it to look.

    Here is an image of particles being ejected sideways.
    �
    Those jets out of the side of the building happened at the floors where the express elevators terminated. It's the result of air that was compressed in the elevator shafts by the falling floors above them blowing out the doors and through the windows. Tell me, if these jets were explosive charges, then why doesn't the building start to fail just where and when those jets are seen? But it didn't. It started to fail exactly where the airplanes hit.

    None of these things are hard to explain and do not require resorting to outlandish scenarios and bogus arguments informed by a glaring ignorance of basic physics and engineering. Evidently most people, at least most people who have commented on these images in echo chambers like this one, have no idea how to interpret what they're looking at.

    Replies: @Been_there_done_that

    Your comments do not withstand logical scrutiny:

    The video clearly shows a dust cloud from pulverized concrete and drywall hanging in the air…

    The gravitational effect upon the structural elements.could not have pulverized the concrete at the core and the floors into the fine dust-like granularity that was evident within a huge circumference beyond the building.

    The amount of drywall in the building was relatively trivial relative to the volume of dust that is evident in the image. Many floors had open offices (for instance financial trading floors) or cubicles to enhance the feeling of spaciousness and provide additional lighting from outside and views from the inside.

    Much of what is seen in the image of the north tower collapse, above, consists of condensing water vapor that had previously been bound within the concrete during mixing, before it was poured into shape on location during construction. The separation could not have been induced by gravity and must have occurred due to the extreme heat from within the building.

    The dust was not merely “hanging in the air“, as you described it, but was flowing outward in a parabolic trajectory that includes an upward component on the right hand side in the first image, momentarily defying gravity.

    It looks exactly as I would expect it to look.

    Your purported expectation cannot be derived from any empirical observations because what is documented in the images had never occurred before. Based on the physics, observers of the initial collapse of the south building could not have expected to see the top tilted portion of the building to have suddenly ended its rotation and then disintegrate into debris instead. We could have expected any initial pancake collapse near the top to have been absorbed by the remaining structural integrity beneath, and decelerate to a halt.

    Those jets out of the side of the building happened at the floors where the express elevators terminated.

    The second image shows horizontal debris ejections in perpendicular directions within two or three floors of each other. The express elevators did not terminate within this difference in altitude, nor were the bottom portions of the shafts directly connected to the windows from which the jets exited. The volume of air on any particular floor could have absorbed any additional pressure coming from the shaft.

    if these jets were explosive charges, then why doesn’t the building start to fail just where and when those jets are seen?

    No explosive charges placed on any floor could have in itself been sufficiently powerful to trigger a structural failure. There were reports of multiple explosions near the bottom of the buildings prior to the actual collapses. Even those shaped charges, which weakened the structure, did not induce a collapse.

    …resorting to outlandish scenarios and bogus arguments informed by a glaring ignorance of basic physics and engineering.

    From an engineering perspective it is not at all “outlandish” to engage in careful prior contingency planning and thorough physical preparation, including redundancies, if one wants to ensure that both towers are to be brought down, motivated by the desire to avoid tedious disassembly due to asbestos liabilities, a perceived need to create a public spectacle for promoting a war agenda, while blaming imaginary Arab hijackers, and then ultimately collect double payments from premiums by the German insurer. If merely flying drone aircraft into the side of each building by remote control (Plan A) were not sufficient, then one could additionally weaken the base structure and other crucial supports with explosives (Plan B); if that doesn’t induce the desired collapse either, then there would remainsthe nuclear option (Plan C), based on small devices placed at the bottoms of the single freight elevator shafts in each of the twin buildings going all the way to the top. See the link in comment #933 above for the measured radiation evidence for this event having occurred. Plenty of other credible evidence has been reported in past threads here.

    The premise for wanting to collapse the towers is not in doubt. There was a failed attempt on February 26, 1993 to bring down the tower with a truck bomb in the garage. People had been hinting at this possibility during the months leading up to the event. The concept was featured in a television episode, in a video game: even Alex Jones announced the possibility weeks before, in what could be described as a comprehensive predictive programing effort, which also included the three hour movie Pearl Harbor, shown during the summer of 2001. Presumably some people in New York wanted to destroy the towers from the very beginning. See my previous quote (September 12, 2023 at 8:09 am GMT • 1.4 years ago) from Wikipedia:

    Construction of the World Trade Center (Wikipedia)

    Yamasaki, who had previously designed Saudi Arabia’s Dhahran International Airport with the Saudi Binladin Group, incorporated features of Arabic architecture into the design of the World Trade Center. The plaza was modelled after Mecca, incorporating features such as a vast delineated square, a fountain, and a radial circular pattern. Yamasaki described the plaza as “a mecca, a great relief from the narrow streets and sidewalks of the Wall Street area.†He also incorporated other features of Arabic architecture into the building design, including pointed arches, interweaving tracery of prefabricated concrete, a minaret like flight tower, and arabesque patterns.

    Let’s see if Donald Trump’s new Justice Department has the guts to pursue the perpetrators.

    •ï¿½Replies: @skrik
    @Been_there_done_that


    if that doesn’t induce the desired collapse either, then there would remainsthe nuclear option (Plan C), based on small devices placed at the bottoms of the single freight elevator shafts in each of the twin buildings going all the way to the top
    �
    Bullshit

    "The internet exists to destroy bad information. Posting bullshit does not work anymore, ..."
    ~Kratoklastes
    �
    Here you were close

    Based on the physics, observers of the initial collapse of the south building could not have expected to see the top tilted portion of the building to have suddenly ended its rotation and then disintegrate into debris instead
    �
    WTCs 1 & 2 were progressively, level by level, both downwards and upwards explosively disassembled, using conventional, most likely military-issue highest performance explosives. This fully explains the tilting upper section *not* appearing as a semi-intact remnant in/near the rubble pile. You are correct with the billowing pyroclastic clouds of powdered concrete plus dry-wall and other small particles, like human bone fragments and iron-rich micro spheres.

    Basta! We've been through it all before. No nukes, only 'conventional' explosives and those in massive quantities [hence the ‘hot-spots’ under 3 towers], *not* wishing to leave anything to chance since there could have been very little in the way of preliminary proving-trials. Nukes go BANG! [and debris goes everywhere from that point-source] - there were no such bangs, see Chandler's North Tower vid [and listen to it - closely!]

    Now; I would like to pose this Q: Cui bono? Who benefits and how, for a few nutters to be ‘pushing’ ridiculous assertions 23+yrs down the track to challenge the AE911Truth consensus = 'conventional' explosives 'controlled' demolition?

    It's astounding
    Time is fleeting
    Madness takes its toll
    But listen closely
    Not for very much longer
    �
    No DEW, no dustify, no nukes [no planes optional]

    No further augment will come from me; the 'sanity-incapable' can go to hell forthwith.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Been_there_done_that


    Your comments do not withstand logical scrutiny:
    �

    The gravitational effect upon the structural elements.could not have pulverized the concrete...............
    �

    The amount of drywall in the building was relatively trivial................
    �
    You've offered no logical scrutiny, merely a compendium of baseless assertions.

    For one thing there was plenty of gypsum in the WTC towers. Asbestos too. All of which is friable and easily turned to dust.

    https://www.fireengineering.com/fire-safety/the-world-trade-center-construction-and-collapse-part-2/

    Much of what is seen in the image of the north tower collapse, above, consists of condensing water vapor that had previously been bound within the concrete during mixing,..............
    �
    Nonsense. From thirty year-old concrete? And what would cause it to condense?

    The dust was not merely “hanging in the air“, as you described it, but was flowing outward in a parabolic trajectory that includes an upward component on the right hand side in the first image, momentarily defying gravity.
    �
    A parabola? Really? You fit a curve to it? The dust was doing what dust does - hanging, floating, flowing.

    We could have expected any initial pancake collapse near the top to have been absorbed by the remaining structural integrity beneath, and decelerate to a halt.
    �
    Utterly ridiculous.

    The volume of air on any particular floor could have absorbed any additional pressure coming from the shaft...........
    �
    Another baseless assertion.

    if these jets were explosive charges, then why doesn’t the building start to fail just where and when those jets are seen?

    No explosive charges placed on any floor could have in itself been sufficiently powerful to trigger a structural failure.........

    If merely flying drone aircraft into the side of each building by remote control (Plan A).
    �
    There were no drone aircraft and they weren't flown by remote control.

    I find it impossible to have an intelligent conversation with people who look at a video and see things that aren't there.
  • @Been_there_done_that
    @Mr. Anon


    None of the ones I’ve seen show anything flying upwards.
    �
    It appears as if though a huge volume of water is gushing outward like a fountain from inside the building.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GhafpiPXsAAP_SZ.jpg

    Here is an image of particles being ejected sideways.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0SkHvuWIAI-9ia.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    It appears as if though a huge volume of water is gushing outward like a fountain from inside the building.

    In a still frame, out of context. The video clearly shows a dust cloud from pulverized concrete and drywall hanging in the air as the solid debris of the building falls through it. It looks exactly as I would expect it to look.

    Here is an image of particles being ejected sideways.

    Those jets out of the side of the building happened at the floors where the express elevators terminated. It’s the result of air that was compressed in the elevator shafts by the falling floors above them blowing out the doors and through the windows. Tell me, if these jets were explosive charges, then why doesn’t the building start to fail just where and when those jets are seen? But it didn’t. It started to fail exactly where the airplanes hit.

    None of these things are hard to explain and do not require resorting to outlandish scenarios and bogus arguments informed by a glaring ignorance of basic physics and engineering. Evidently most people, at least most people who have commented on these images in echo chambers like this one, have no idea how to interpret what they’re looking at.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Been_there_done_that
    @Mr. Anon

    Your comments do not withstand logical scrutiny:

    The video clearly shows a dust cloud from pulverized concrete and drywall hanging in the air...
    �
    The gravitational effect upon the structural elements.could not have pulverized the concrete at the core and the floors into the fine dust-like granularity that was evident within a huge circumference beyond the building.

    The amount of drywall in the building was relatively trivial relative to the volume of dust that is evident in the image. Many floors had open offices (for instance financial trading floors) or cubicles to enhance the feeling of spaciousness and provide additional lighting from outside and views from the inside.

    Much of what is seen in the image of the north tower collapse, above, consists of condensing water vapor that had previously been bound within the concrete during mixing, before it was poured into shape on location during construction. The separation could not have been induced by gravity and must have occurred due to the extreme heat from within the building.

    The dust was not merely "hanging in the air", as you described it, but was flowing outward in a parabolic trajectory that includes an upward component on the right hand side in the first image, momentarily defying gravity.

    It looks exactly as I would expect it to look.
    �
    Your purported expectation cannot be derived from any empirical observations because what is documented in the images had never occurred before. Based on the physics, observers of the initial collapse of the south building could not have expected to see the top tilted portion of the building to have suddenly ended its rotation and then disintegrate into debris instead. We could have expected any initial pancake collapse near the top to have been absorbed by the remaining structural integrity beneath, and decelerate to a halt.

    Those jets out of the side of the building happened at the floors where the express elevators terminated.
    �
    The second image shows horizontal debris ejections in perpendicular directions within two or three floors of each other. The express elevators did not terminate within this difference in altitude, nor were the bottom portions of the shafts directly connected to the windows from which the jets exited. The volume of air on any particular floor could have absorbed any additional pressure coming from the shaft.

    if these jets were explosive charges, then why doesn’t the building start to fail just where and when those jets are seen?
    �
    No explosive charges placed on any floor could have in itself been sufficiently powerful to trigger a structural failure. There were reports of multiple explosions near the bottom of the buildings prior to the actual collapses. Even those shaped charges, which weakened the structure, did not induce a collapse.

    ...resorting to outlandish scenarios and bogus arguments informed by a glaring ignorance of basic physics and engineering.
    �
    From an engineering perspective it is not at all "outlandish" to engage in careful prior contingency planning and thorough physical preparation, including redundancies, if one wants to ensure that both towers are to be brought down, motivated by the desire to avoid tedious disassembly due to asbestos liabilities, a perceived need to create a public spectacle for promoting a war agenda, while blaming imaginary Arab hijackers, and then ultimately collect double payments from premiums by the German insurer. If merely flying drone aircraft into the side of each building by remote control (Plan A) were not sufficient, then one could additionally weaken the base structure and other crucial supports with explosives (Plan B); if that doesn't induce the desired collapse either, then there would remainsthe nuclear option (Plan C), based on small devices placed at the bottoms of the single freight elevator shafts in each of the twin buildings going all the way to the top. See the link in comment #933 above for the measured radiation evidence for this event having occurred. Plenty of other credible evidence has been reported in past threads here.

    The premise for wanting to collapse the towers is not in doubt. There was a failed attempt on February 26, 1993 to bring down the tower with a truck bomb in the garage. People had been hinting at this possibility during the months leading up to the event. The concept was featured in a television episode, in a video game: even Alex Jones announced the possibility weeks before, in what could be described as a comprehensive predictive programing effort, which also included the three hour movie Pearl Harbor, shown during the summer of 2001. Presumably some people in New York wanted to destroy the towers from the very beginning. See my previous quote (September 12, 2023 at 8:09 am GMT • 1.4 years ago) from Wikipedia:

    Construction of the World Trade Center (Wikipedia)

    Yamasaki, who had previously designed Saudi Arabia’s Dhahran International Airport with the Saudi Binladin Group, incorporated features of Arabic architecture into the design of the World Trade Center. The plaza was modelled after Mecca, incorporating features such as a vast delineated square, a fountain, and a radial circular pattern. Yamasaki described the plaza as “a mecca, a great relief from the narrow streets and sidewalks of the Wall Street area.†He also incorporated other features of Arabic architecture into the building design, including pointed arches, interweaving tracery of prefabricated concrete, a minaret like flight tower, and arabesque patterns.
    �
    Let's see if Donald Trump's new Justice Department has the guts to pursue the perpetrators.

    Replies: @skrik, @Mr. Anon
  • Ron Unz recently noted “the sharp decline in quality of the New York Times.†He might have added that we can still learn things from the Times by reading between the lines, the way Soviet-era Russians read Tass and Pravda. That’s a good way to read today’s David Lynch obituary. The Times, like the rest...
  • @Kevin Barrett
    @Zduhaci

    Maybe you should contact Lynch on the dream plane and try to sell him your script for a remake of Richard Linklater's Waking Life.

    Replies: @Zduhaci

    Thanks, I have often thought that my ‘Grand Unified (conspiracy) Theory of Everything’ starting in the ancient past and also incorporating my personal paranormal experiences, would make a great film series. My theory puts me in a minority of just one singular individual – so the material would be unique. It would be nonfiction also but marketed as fiction.

    Trouble is they would assassinate me and ban the films, of course.

    I can’t actually communicate with the deceased in dreams btw – I see them sometimes, but they never speak or fly. They just look at me with all knowing eyes. Although I did try communication with a missing (dead) person once during waking hours, this practice is subject to the Jewish curse apparently. Anywho this was the first and only time I heard ‘voices’ – the guy yelled at me. I know they say the voices heard by mentally ill are just internal dialogue – but internal dialogue is not an audible sound (as we all know). V2K is an ‘audible’ sound heard only by the target – for example.

    Kevin I know it isn’t cool. But I would quite happily make money off of the paranormal, not for personal gain. I just really want to build a fortress where any NZer can run to when their lives are in danger.

    I have a Twitter but have never used it. Perhaps I will take a photo of a photo, upload it and link it here. The photo is 3 evil clown ghosts (Jin) sitting in a car. It creeps me out – even thinking of retrieving the photograph from storage. But I wouldn’t mind pawning it.

    I took a look at your link too. The Barrett Issue. There is an email at the bottom – I almost sent them a big F you. But didn’t do it.

  • Rumble link Bitchute link FFWN link At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. Sachs is a highbrow policy advisor who used to make top-100-most-important-people-in-the-world lists, but has lost his Establishment position after trumpeting unspeakable truths. Trump, for his part, is a middlebrow-at-best showman with a genius for mixing unspeakable...
  • A couple of internets ago, on archives that likely don’t exist, you’re NOT going to find old audio footage of Rand Paul at a 9/11 Truth event before his political career took off. I believe Jack Blood interviewed him.

    Jack also interviewed Ron Paul numerous times and asked him the big question. He dipped his toe in with a series of doubts he has regarding wargames that day etc.

    Likely Ron Paul regards the Federal Reserve as the Death Star, and 9/11 as some rando tie fighter. He spent his whole political career trying to engineer that trip down the trench, not to get side-tracked by what he may consider to be the side-effects (wars) of political / financial control by the bankster class.

    LOTS of people know about 9/11.

    Not many are willing to go public about it.

    Even Mr. Trump probably just did so for the 5% votes he’d get from the truthers listening to his half-coded language about it.

  • @DanFromCT
    @anarchyst

    So much of Wall Street relies on prior knowledge. Years ago a Jewish fellow working for Jim Cramer wrote a book, Trading With the Enemy, in which he claimed Cramer would get tipped off about market-moving stories about to air on the financial news network, CNBC. Cramer’s source was one of the morning show’s anchors they called “the brain,†which is the usual cover story for insider trading. Putting it another way, the financial news loves attributing insider trading to genius—and it must have been some very special genius for Jeffrey Epstein to make $100 million trading options when people who worked with him said he knew nothing about options. Cramer also supposedly got tipped off by fellow Jews working at the big houses about market-moving changes in analysts’ ratings. Cramer would supposedly then work a Chinese fire drill hiding his suspiciously timed trades.

    So, of course the presumption was and remains that those airline shorts just before 9/11 were based on prior knowledge the attack would take place, which is precisely why nothing, as far as I know, has happened—or ever will happen. Then there was Israel’s Odigo, the Hebrew messaging service, that warned its subscribers to not go near the WTC that morning. What’s even more amazing is that Congress, the FBI, CIA, State Dept, etc. couldn’t care less if Israel attacked the United States on 9/11.

    Replies: @Patrick McNally

    > Israel’s Odigo, the Hebrew messaging service, that warned its subscribers to not go near the WTC that morning.

    Totally false. Two Israelis received a message that morning which said nothing about the WTC but which they immediately thought of when they heard about the attack. No one in New York received any messages through Odigo.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20020607000423/https://www.amenusa.org/prior.htm

    —–
    Alex Diamandis, vice president of sales and marketing, confirmed that workers in Odigo’s research and development and international sales office in Israel received a warning from another Odigo user approximately two hours prior to the first attack…

    Soon after the terrorist attacks on New York, the Odigo employees notified their management, who contacted Israeli security services. In turn, the FBI was informed of the instant message warning…

    Diamandis today in a telephone interview also said the warning message did not identify the World Trade Center as the attack target.
    —–

    https://web.archive.org/web/20030201161145/http://www.atnewyork.com/news/article.php/8471_893851

    —–
    Odigo, which has a satellite office in Israel, said employees there received pop-up text messages containing advance warning of the attacks but said the IMs did not mention the World Trade Center specifically, or any other targets.
    —–

    •ï¿½Troll: ariadna
  • Ron Unz recently noted “the sharp decline in quality of the New York Times.†He might have added that we can still learn things from the Times by reading between the lines, the way Soviet-era Russians read Tass and Pravda. That’s a good way to read today’s David Lynch obituary. The Times, like the rest...
  • It isn’t a stretch to see David Lynch as a 9/11 truther.

    For example, “Mulholland Drive” is absolutely a send-up of Hollyweird’s casting couch culture.

    When Naomi Watts’ character is dropped off by the old couple, they get “super smiley” as they have done a favor for the elites and now they’ll get their reward.

    There isn’t always a narrative to grasp in his movies. But that doesn’t mean they’re “arthouse” or trash. They are entertaining and perplexing. I WANT to know what’s going on while watching a Lynch film.

    “Dune” is re-imagined every generation now as it’s solidly a part of our pop culture. Yet the mini-series from a generation ago, the Sci Fi channel one, is all but forgotten. Lynch’s bizarro-world with the navigator / space guild scene, the WAY OUT Harkonnens, the low-tech clockwork buzzing of devices, was all given the ok by Frank Herbert himself who was reportedly on set.

    Also the cast of “Blue Velvet” and “Dune” has a lot of correlation. Actors liked working with Lynch.

    For a lark, watch the clip of Lynch describing his one meeting with George Lucas to have him direct “Return of the Jedi” – imagine that…

  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • @Mr. Anon
    @Been_there_done_that


    However, the initially outward and even upward ejection of some heavy debris from the twin buildings at high velocity in all directions – then necessarily falling along a parabolic path – during their spectacular collapses at nearly the rate of free fall, clearly entails additional sources of energy, which you conspicuously ignore or deny.
    �
    Nothing flew upwards. I don't know what video you've seen. None of the ones I've seen show anything flying upwards. The collapse of WTCs 1 and 2 were completely consistent with the scenario laid out by NIST.

    Replies: @Been_there_done_that

    None of the ones I’ve seen show anything flying upwards.

    It appears as if though a huge volume of water is gushing outward like a fountain from inside the building.

    Here is an image of particles being ejected sideways.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Been_there_done_that


    It appears as if though a huge volume of water is gushing outward like a fountain from inside the building.
    �
    In a still frame, out of context. The video clearly shows a dust cloud from pulverized concrete and drywall hanging in the air as the solid debris of the building falls through it. It looks exactly as I would expect it to look.

    Here is an image of particles being ejected sideways.
    �
    Those jets out of the side of the building happened at the floors where the express elevators terminated. It's the result of air that was compressed in the elevator shafts by the falling floors above them blowing out the doors and through the windows. Tell me, if these jets were explosive charges, then why doesn't the building start to fail just where and when those jets are seen? But it didn't. It started to fail exactly where the airplanes hit.

    None of these things are hard to explain and do not require resorting to outlandish scenarios and bogus arguments informed by a glaring ignorance of basic physics and engineering. Evidently most people, at least most people who have commented on these images in echo chambers like this one, have no idea how to interpret what they're looking at.

    Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  • @skrik
    @littlereddot


    While I can tolerate kooky characters or the less informed
    �

    Something you guys never grasp is that buildings fall straight down
    �
    I do hope you two enjoy your state of malevolent ignorance.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    The only ignorance I see in this little discussion is yours.

  • @Been_there_done_that
    @Mr. Anon


    Every building that collapses falls due to gravity.
    �
    Nobody disagrees with the gravitational effect, so this law of physics merely expresses the least common denominator of consent. However, the initially outward and even upward ejection of some heavy debris from the twin buildings at high velocity in all directions – then necessarily falling along a parabolic path – during their spectacular collapses at nearly the rate of free fall, clearly entails additional sources of energy, which you conspicuously ignore or deny.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    However, the initially outward and even upward ejection of some heavy debris from the twin buildings at high velocity in all directions – then necessarily falling along a parabolic path – during their spectacular collapses at nearly the rate of free fall, clearly entails additional sources of energy, which you conspicuously ignore or deny.

    Nothing flew upwards. I don’t know what video you’ve seen. None of the ones I’ve seen show anything flying upwards. The collapse of WTCs 1 and 2 were completely consistent with the scenario laid out by NIST.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Been_there_done_that
    @Mr. Anon


    None of the ones I’ve seen show anything flying upwards.
    �
    It appears as if though a huge volume of water is gushing outward like a fountain from inside the building.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GhafpiPXsAAP_SZ.jpg

    Here is an image of particles being ejected sideways.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0SkHvuWIAI-9ia.jpg

    Replies: @Mr. Anon
  • @Looger
    @Alden


    But Europe the Muslims and Africans don’t stay home and they don’t work. Just roam around in packs all day like 9 AM to 1AM shoplifting bullying intimidating and assault and battering bullying native born citizen men up rioting and sex assaulting everything from rubbing on a bus grabbing to full penetration and serious injury rape. As well as assaulting women and very young girls they attack men and boys too. Always 5 or more to 1
    �
    THIS.

    This is what's going on in Calgary now. Whole apartment blocks taken over (and subsequently infested with cockroaches and bed bugs) by Africans, Arabs etc. on the dole, hanging around, harassing women, intimidating men. They have no jobs, no where to go, they just exist downtown and take as much free money as they can.

    There will come a point when the leftards will not be able to keep all the tax cattle on the reservation, once there are so many of their pets that we can't afford them anymore.

    People think of this as an invasion but really the low-IQ implants are just the dumb army of the left. They're not going to conquer anything but a welfare check and a fucking food bank.

    No wonder we're going to be invaded by space aliens - anything that keeps us from realizing what's going on right in front of us.

    Replies: @Low-carb Political Movement, @notanonymousHere

    The ratio of “intimidating men” to “killing foreigners” is out of kilter.

  • Ron Unz recently noted “the sharp decline in quality of the New York Times.†He might have added that we can still learn things from the Times by reading between the lines, the way Soviet-era Russians read Tass and Pravda. That’s a good way to read today’s David Lynch obituary. The Times, like the rest...
  • @No Worries
    @Priss Factor

    I liked Jeanne Dielman, but I watched it over the course of a few days. It is certainly not the greatest film ever, though. Far from it. If anything, it's an interesting experiment in filmmaking and not much else.

    Replies: @Priss Factor

    it don’t take 3 1/2 hrs


    Video Link

    •ï¿½Thanks: Zduhaci
  • @Digital Samizdat

    Unlike the Hollywood producer who is said to have wisecracked “I have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk†...
    �
    Sure it was just a joke? This is Hollywood we're talking here. ;-)

    Replies: @Zduhaci, @Dave Bowman

    ((( Hollywood producer ))).

    Literally anything is possible.

  • @Zduhaci
    So I didn't really know of this guy David Lynch. Knowledge of movie stars and pop culture is my weakest subject. However your tribute Kevin sent me back down the rabbit hole. Thanks for that, and now storytime.

    It is said this type of meditation he was into, can progress to the point where a person can take control of their own dreams while sleeping. Cosmic meditation - I've never heard of it, however I can relate because I started taking control of my own dreams at around age 15. Being aware of the fact this is a dream. I would practice flying outside my house every night while sleeping and eventually I mastered flight. As a consequence, my dream self is safe always - because I can just fly away or if I choose to strike an enemy - they get severely hurt. Whereas previously if I struck an enemy during dreamtime, it used to be a very weak strike. In addition, if I wake up remembering some cryptic dream code - all I have to do is think, what if that was dream me trying to convey a message to physical me and immediately I understand the cryptic code. The code didn't come from anywhere but myself. So dream codes are now easy to decipher.

    The Quran is said to be charged with barakah. All I can say is this, if I read the Quran - that same night the Quran enters my dream. Nothing else, no book or movie or whatever, does this. In fact I met that nasty big black bird after reading the Quran - what a horrible bird. I wasn't afraid, well maybe for a micro second. This bird stood like a man on long stalk legs, is 8 feet tall and tries to intimidate when it bursts open its 3m wingspan and does a hell squawk revealing sharp teeth in it's pelican beak.

    Replies: @Kevin Barrett

    Maybe you should contact Lynch on the dream plane and try to sell him your script for a remake of Richard Linklater’s Waking Life.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Zduhaci
    @Kevin Barrett

    Thanks, I have often thought that my 'Grand Unified (conspiracy) Theory of Everything' starting in the ancient past and also incorporating my personal paranormal experiences, would make a great film series. My theory puts me in a minority of just one singular individual - so the material would be unique. It would be nonfiction also but marketed as fiction.

    Trouble is they would assassinate me and ban the films, of course.

    I can't actually communicate with the deceased in dreams btw - I see them sometimes, but they never speak or fly. They just look at me with all knowing eyes. Although I did try communication with a missing (dead) person once during waking hours, this practice is subject to the Jewish curse apparently. Anywho this was the first and only time I heard 'voices' - the guy yelled at me. I know they say the voices heard by mentally ill are just internal dialogue - but internal dialogue is not an audible sound (as we all know). V2K is an 'audible' sound heard only by the target - for example.

    Kevin I know it isn't cool. But I would quite happily make money off of the paranormal, not for personal gain. I just really want to build a fortress where any NZer can run to when their lives are in danger.

    I have a Twitter but have never used it. Perhaps I will take a photo of a photo, upload it and link it here. The photo is 3 evil clown ghosts (Jin) sitting in a car. It creeps me out - even thinking of retrieving the photograph from storage. But I wouldn't mind pawning it.

    I took a look at your link too. The Barrett Issue. There is an email at the bottom - I almost sent them a big F you. But didn't do it.
  • I have watched Loose Change and many other videos about September 11, 2001 – including “no planes” videos. The video that I think is the best of all is this one – no hype, fanfare or dramatics. Just the apparent FACTS and observations. Video –

    Video Link

    Thank you.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Kevin Barrett
    @Brad Anbro

    I agree that 9/11 Mysteries may be the best video intro to 9/11 by way of the demolitions issue. There is an interesting back story about how Bugsy Siegal's nephew engaged the most powerful law firm in Chicago to harass the 9/11 Mysteries filmmaker for using a "proprietary" short clip of the demolitions filmed by someone who was probably set up to film them.
  • while blocked as a citation, I recommend the Documentary about Mr Lynch’s life.

    His best film for me will always be

    Elephant Man.

    I remain aloof of his explorations into violence and intimacy, not that such seedy worlds don’t exist. I just not sure I need the graphics, the same applies to Mr Tarantino. Just too much and a tad exploitive, though a look at Mr Lynch’s life suggests that is less so for him. Iam convinced that he had a learning disability that film allowed him to channel his issues though.

  • @Priss Factor

    The obit writer, a certain J. Hoberman, seems amused by Lynch’s “manichean†juxtaposition of extreme Capraesque innocence with equally extreme beyond-Kafkaesque suspicions of depravity. From the Establishment point of view, the fact that Lynch was a 9/11 truth-seeker seems par for the course. Of course his legendarily paranoid imagination would wonder what was crawling around beneath our perfectly-manicured American lawn.
    �
    'a certain J. Hoberman' seems somewhat dismissive.

    Hoberman has been one of the best film critics since the 80s writing for the Village Voice.
    His Vulgar Modernism: Writing on Film and Other Media is a must-read compilation.

    Also, he, along with his friend Jonathan Rosenbaum, was among the first critics to appreciate Lynch. They wrote a book together called Midnight Films.

    Hoberman also wrote excellent books on cinematic periods of the 50s and 60s.
    The Dream Life: Movies, Media, and the Mythology of the Sixties.

    https://archive.org/details/midnightmovies0000hobe

    My one beef with the new generation of critics and scholars that emerged in the 80s is their championing of Chantal Akerman, the worst director ever who made the worst film ever: JEANNE DIELMAN that should be banned by the Geneva Convention for torture.

    But homos, Jews, feminists, supposed Marxists, cucks, dorks, idiots, and etc voted lockstep to make it the greatest film ever for Sight and Sound in 2022.

    Replies: @No Worries

    I liked Jeanne Dielman, but I watched it over the course of a few days. It is certainly not the greatest film ever, though. Far from it. If anything, it’s an interesting experiment in filmmaking and not much else.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Priss Factor
    @No Worries

    it don't take 3 1/2 hrs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI7IFMqrDPI
  • Rumble link Bitchute link FFWN link At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. Sachs is a highbrow policy advisor who used to make top-100-most-important-people-in-the-world lists, but has lost his Establishment position after trumpeting unspeakable truths. Trump, for his part, is a middlebrow-at-best showman with a genius for mixing unspeakable...
  • Its possible. Trump knew what was going on in September. Before or after the 11th, I’m not sure.

    But we know how that disclosure ends, and so does Trump. Such a superficial wrassling ego is never suicidal. Especially not suicide motivated by compassion. That would never happen.

    And even if Trump did commit suicide, his only thought would whether or not it was entertaining for the peasants. Like a reality show contestant.

    Sure, there’s more going on beneath the surface, like a poker cheat team thats bitching about Pepsi vs. Coke.

    But no one on the team is suicide. And the poker game continues, even if an accident were to happen.

  • Ron Unz recently noted “the sharp decline in quality of the New York Times.†He might have added that we can still learn things from the Times by reading between the lines, the way Soviet-era Russians read Tass and Pravda. That’s a good way to read today’s David Lynch obituary. The Times, like the rest...
  • I know people who get mad when I try and discuss these things. It’s obvious they don’t want to think about it. They don’t want to understand the world they live in. It must be terrible to live a life ‘looking away’. None of them have a sense of humor, though they would reply to that characterizing in the negative. I attribute that to the fear of actually knowing what is going on. What a way to live.

  • Hans says:
    @bjondo

    documentary Loose Change by Dylan Avery. And it was a film that has been watched by million viewers because you could see it through the internet. No charge. And the film sums up in a way all the theories about US government having planned the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center
    �
    Documentary? Bits and pieces. Misdirection totally.
    Exactly the point of jews making, offering Loose Change - U. S. gov't planned and is to blame.

    Any loose jew tongues flapping in the direction of jews?

    5ds

    Replies: @Hans

    Well, it’s not that far fetched. After all the US government planned the attack on the USS Liberty, and the FED, and the Bank of England, and the Holohoax, and the overthrow of the Romanovs, not to mention the “French” Revolution, and the Kalergi Plan.

    I see Jason “Loose Change” Bermas is still out and about truthing. He’ll tell you to kill yourself if you start in with the anti-fake-semite-ism so knock it off.

  • @Digital Samizdat

    Unlike the Hollywood producer who is said to have wisecracked “I have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk†...
    �
    Sure it was just a joke? This is Hollywood we're talking here. ;-)

    Replies: @Zduhaci, @Dave Bowman

    YIKES

  • So I didn’t really know of this guy David Lynch. Knowledge of movie stars and pop culture is my weakest subject. However your tribute Kevin sent me back down the rabbit hole. Thanks for that, and now storytime.

    It is said this type of meditation he was into, can progress to the point where a person can take control of their own dreams while sleeping. Cosmic meditation – I’ve never heard of it, however I can relate because I started taking control of my own dreams at around age 15. Being aware of the fact this is a dream. I would practice flying outside my house every night while sleeping and eventually I mastered flight. As a consequence, my dream self is safe always – because I can just fly away or if I choose to strike an enemy – they get severely hurt. Whereas previously if I struck an enemy during dreamtime, it used to be a very weak strike. In addition, if I wake up remembering some cryptic dream code – all I have to do is think, what if that was dream me trying to convey a message to physical me and immediately I understand the cryptic code. The code didn’t come from anywhere but myself. So dream codes are now easy to decipher.

    The Quran is said to be charged with barakah. All I can say is this, if I read the Quran – that same night the Quran enters my dream. Nothing else, no book or movie or whatever, does this. In fact I met that nasty big black bird after reading the Quran – what a horrible bird. I wasn’t afraid, well maybe for a micro second. This bird stood like a man on long stalk legs, is 8 feet tall and tries to intimidate when it bursts open its 3m wingspan and does a hell squawk revealing sharp teeth in it’s pelican beak.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Kevin Barrett
    @Zduhaci

    Maybe you should contact Lynch on the dream plane and try to sell him your script for a remake of Richard Linklater's Waking Life.

    Replies: @Zduhaci
  • @Sharonbaron
    @Kevin Barrett

    Thank you for sharing that. It was an interesting read.

    Now this article I just read was good, but Anglin did an article that was the best out of all the RIP Lynch articles out there.

    Replies: @Kevin Barrett

    Anglin: “Interesting boomer. Poster boy for smokers’ rights.” OK, whatever.

  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • OmK says:

    1. CIA agent’s confession :

    ã€CIA Agent Confesses On Deathbed : ‘We Blew Up WTC 7 On 9/11】

    (posted on Sep.16,2022)

    | Principia Scientific International

    🔶 https://principia-scientific.com/cia-agent-confesses-on-deathbed-we-blew-up-wtc-7-on-9-11/

    2.ã€Sao Paolo Skyscraper Collapse and its Strange Relation to 911】

    🔶 https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102651-Sao-Paolo-Skyscraper-Collapse-and-its-Strange-Relation-to-911/

    See this one’s 5th article
    written by indigopete.
    This indigopete writes like
    “Looked like a controlled demo to me”.

  • Rumble link Bitchute link FFWN link At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. Sachs is a highbrow policy advisor who used to make top-100-most-important-people-in-the-world lists, but has lost his Establishment position after trumpeting unspeakable truths. Trump, for his part, is a middlebrow-at-best showman with a genius for mixing unspeakable...
  • It’s like THE GODFATHER.

    The Corleones figured out it was Barzini but couldn’t say it.

    And in part II, Michael knew Hyman Roth was behind it but couldn’t say it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zCfyohQP3I
    Video Link

  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • @Mr. Anon
    @skrik

    AE911 Truth is the name of the organization. Despite it's name, many of it's members are neither engineers nor architects. As Ryan Dawson pointed out, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth couldn't even be bothered to look at the architectural drawings of the Pentagon, and did not know how it's architecture was laid out.

    WTC7 was clearly a ‘ controlled demolition,’ and Chandler’s North Tower vid clearly illustrates ditto for WTCs 1 & 2 [identical vertical collapse].
    �
    WTC 7 does look like a controlled demolition, at least from the videos available, all of which are at some distance and obscured by other buildings. The collapse of WTC 1 and 2 don't look like any controlled demolition I've ever seen. Still, WTC 7 could have fallen of it's own just from the structural and fire damage it sustained. Something you guys never grasp is that buildings fall straight down because that's the way that gravity points. Every building that collapses falls due to gravity. It's just a question of what weakens it enough that it does so.

    Replies: @littlereddot, @Been_there_done_that

    Every building that collapses falls due to gravity.

    Nobody disagrees with the gravitational effect, so this law of physics merely expresses the least common denominator of consent. However, the initially outward and even upward ejection of some heavy debris from the twin buildings at high velocity in all directions – then necessarily falling along a parabolic path – during their spectacular collapses at nearly the rate of free fall, clearly entails additional sources of energy, which you conspicuously ignore or deny.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Been_there_done_that


    However, the initially outward and even upward ejection of some heavy debris from the twin buildings at high velocity in all directions – then necessarily falling along a parabolic path – during their spectacular collapses at nearly the rate of free fall, clearly entails additional sources of energy, which you conspicuously ignore or deny.
    �
    Nothing flew upwards. I don't know what video you've seen. None of the ones I've seen show anything flying upwards. The collapse of WTCs 1 and 2 were completely consistent with the scenario laid out by NIST.

    Replies: @Been_there_done_that
  • @littlereddot
    @Mr. Anon

    Thank you. You views are very reasonable.

    There are so many unknowns or unconfirmable aspects, that it is hard to be 100% sure what happened. I take it as a mark of intelligence if someone can hold off judgement till enough facts are sufficiently available.

    However when someone like Skrik comes along and professes total confidence in this theory or that, we know that he is a bit of a nut. Or at least not very bright.

    While I can tolerate kooky characters or the less informed, I am unfortunately less sanguine about his rudeness.

    Replies: @skrik

    While I can tolerate kooky characters or the less informed

    Something you guys never grasp is that buildings fall straight down

    I do hope you two enjoy your state of malevolent ignorance.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @skrik

    The only ignorance I see in this little discussion is yours.
  • Ron Unz recently noted “the sharp decline in quality of the New York Times.†He might have added that we can still learn things from the Times by reading between the lines, the way Soviet-era Russians read Tass and Pravda. That’s a good way to read today’s David Lynch obituary. The Times, like the rest...
  • bjondo says:

    documentary Loose Change by Dylan Avery. And it was a film that has been watched by million viewers because you could see it through the internet. No charge. And the film sums up in a way all the theories about US government having planned the September 11th attacks on the World Trade Center

    Documentary? Bits and pieces. Misdirection totally.
    Exactly the point of jews making, offering Loose Change – U. S. gov’t planned and is to blame.

    Any loose jew tongues flapping in the direction of jews?

    5ds

    •ï¿½Replies: @Hans
    @bjondo

    Well, it's not that far fetched. After all the US government planned the attack on the USS Liberty, and the FED, and the Bank of England, and the Holohoax, and the overthrow of the Romanovs, not to mention the "French" Revolution, and the Kalergi Plan.

    I see Jason "Loose Change" Bermas is still out and about truthing. He'll tell you to kill yourself if you start in with the anti-fake-semite-ism so knock it off.
  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • @Mr. Anon
    @skrik

    AE911 Truth is the name of the organization. Despite it's name, many of it's members are neither engineers nor architects. As Ryan Dawson pointed out, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth couldn't even be bothered to look at the architectural drawings of the Pentagon, and did not know how it's architecture was laid out.

    WTC7 was clearly a ‘ controlled demolition,’ and Chandler’s North Tower vid clearly illustrates ditto for WTCs 1 & 2 [identical vertical collapse].
    �
    WTC 7 does look like a controlled demolition, at least from the videos available, all of which are at some distance and obscured by other buildings. The collapse of WTC 1 and 2 don't look like any controlled demolition I've ever seen. Still, WTC 7 could have fallen of it's own just from the structural and fire damage it sustained. Something you guys never grasp is that buildings fall straight down because that's the way that gravity points. Every building that collapses falls due to gravity. It's just a question of what weakens it enough that it does so.

    Replies: @littlereddot, @Been_there_done_that

    Thank you. You views are very reasonable.

    There are so many unknowns or unconfirmable aspects, that it is hard to be 100% sure what happened. I take it as a mark of intelligence if someone can hold off judgement till enough facts are sufficiently available.

    However when someone like Skrik comes along and professes total confidence in this theory or that, we know that he is a bit of a nut. Or at least not very bright.

    While I can tolerate kooky characters or the less informed, I am unfortunately less sanguine about his rudeness.

    •ï¿½Replies: @skrik
    @littlereddot


    While I can tolerate kooky characters or the less informed
    �

    Something you guys never grasp is that buildings fall straight down
    �
    I do hope you two enjoy your state of malevolent ignorance.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon
  • Ron Unz recently noted “the sharp decline in quality of the New York Times.†He might have added that we can still learn things from the Times by reading between the lines, the way Soviet-era Russians read Tass and Pravda. That’s a good way to read today’s David Lynch obituary. The Times, like the rest...
  • @Kevin Barrett
    @A Competent Physicist

    He's also on the short list of artists I'd love to meet over coffee (or halal wine) in paradise to say "thank you for your work." At one point had I hoped to meet him in this life too. He and I were both living in Madison, Wisconsin in 2006 when I was being witch-hunted in the national media as "that 9/11 conspiracy professor." https://news.wisc.edu/archive/barrettissue/ I was getting major positive coverage in The Capital Times, one of the two local papers, during that period, as well as fair-to-positive coverage from the local CBS affiliate. (High-level people at both outlets were closet truthers.) In December 2006, at the tail end of my six months worth of "15 minutes of fame," Lynch did his 9/11 interview with Dutch TV. I always wondered if the press coverage of my controversy at the university had something to do with that, and hoped to meet him some day and ask him. I did try to reach out to him a couple of times, but famous filmmakers are hard to reach unless you know somebody.

    Replies: @Sharonbaron

    Thank you for sharing that. It was an interesting read.

    Now this article I just read was good, but Anglin did an article that was the best out of all the RIP Lynch articles out there.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Kevin Barrett
    @Sharonbaron

    Anglin: "Interesting boomer. Poster boy for smokers' rights." OK, whatever.
  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • @skrik
    @Mr. Anon


    with the destruction of the towers and Pentagon happening essentially exactly as the NIST studies concluded
    �
    No. From the headline article:

    9/11 Truthers endlessly refer to the thousands of architects and engineers who have publicly signed the 9/11 Truth Statement, saying the official story of the WTC attacks is physically impossible
    �
    9/11 Truthers are far more than a

    little mystery cult
    �
    and anyone can join; research two convincing bits of evidence:

    1. The collapse of WTC7. [DIY = you do the research work*].

    2. Try searching for this:
    “North Tower Exploding by David Chandler†AE911Truth site:youtube.com

    WTC7 was clearly a ' controlled demolition,' and Chandler's North Tower vid clearly illustrates ditto for WTCs 1 & 2 [identical vertical collapse].

    Q: Where have you been hiding [= ignoring proven reality] for the last 23+ years? One could theorise that you put coffee-beans into your ears while saying “la la la†as you ignored the available evidence out of [erring!] ideological grounds.

    *[for any too lazy to research, try searching for this:
    "WTC7 in Freefall: No Longer Controversial" DavidChandler911]

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    AE911 Truth is the name of the organization. Despite it’s name, many of it’s members are neither engineers nor architects. As Ryan Dawson pointed out, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth couldn’t even be bothered to look at the architectural drawings of the Pentagon, and did not know how it’s architecture was laid out.

    WTC7 was clearly a ‘ controlled demolition,’ and Chandler’s North Tower vid clearly illustrates ditto for WTCs 1 & 2 [identical vertical collapse].

    WTC 7 does look like a controlled demolition, at least from the videos available, all of which are at some distance and obscured by other buildings. The collapse of WTC 1 and 2 don’t look like any controlled demolition I’ve ever seen. Still, WTC 7 could have fallen of it’s own just from the structural and fire damage it sustained. Something you guys never grasp is that buildings fall straight down because that’s the way that gravity points. Every building that collapses falls due to gravity. It’s just a question of what weakens it enough that it does so.

    •ï¿½Replies: @littlereddot
    @Mr. Anon

    Thank you. You views are very reasonable.

    There are so many unknowns or unconfirmable aspects, that it is hard to be 100% sure what happened. I take it as a mark of intelligence if someone can hold off judgement till enough facts are sufficiently available.

    However when someone like Skrik comes along and professes total confidence in this theory or that, we know that he is a bit of a nut. Or at least not very bright.

    While I can tolerate kooky characters or the less informed, I am unfortunately less sanguine about his rudeness.

    Replies: @skrik
    , @Been_there_done_that
    @Mr. Anon


    Every building that collapses falls due to gravity.
    �
    Nobody disagrees with the gravitational effect, so this law of physics merely expresses the least common denominator of consent. However, the initially outward and even upward ejection of some heavy debris from the twin buildings at high velocity in all directions – then necessarily falling along a parabolic path – during their spectacular collapses at nearly the rate of free fall, clearly entails additional sources of energy, which you conspicuously ignore or deny.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon
  • Ron Unz recently noted “the sharp decline in quality of the New York Times.†He might have added that we can still learn things from the Times by reading between the lines, the way Soviet-era Russians read Tass and Pravda. That’s a good way to read today’s David Lynch obituary. The Times, like the rest...
  • Priss Factor says: •ï¿½Website

    The obit writer, a certain J. Hoberman, seems amused by Lynch’s “manichean†juxtaposition of extreme Capraesque innocence with equally extreme beyond-Kafkaesque suspicions of depravity. From the Establishment point of view, the fact that Lynch was a 9/11 truth-seeker seems par for the course. Of course his legendarily paranoid imagination would wonder what was crawling around beneath our perfectly-manicured American lawn.

    ‘a certain J. Hoberman’ seems somewhat dismissive.

    Hoberman has been one of the best film critics since the 80s writing for the Village Voice.
    His Vulgar Modernism: Writing on Film and Other Media is a must-read compilation.

    Also, he, along with his friend Jonathan Rosenbaum, was among the first critics to appreciate Lynch. They wrote a book together called Midnight Films.

    Hoberman also wrote excellent books on cinematic periods of the 50s and 60s.
    The Dream Life: Movies, Media, and the Mythology of the Sixties.

    https://archive.org/details/midnightmovies0000hobe

    My one beef with the new generation of critics and scholars that emerged in the 80s is their championing of Chantal Akerman, the worst director ever who made the worst film ever: JEANNE DIELMAN that should be banned by the Geneva Convention for torture.

    But homos, Jews, feminists, supposed Marxists, cucks, dorks, idiots, and etc voted lockstep to make it the greatest film ever for Sight and Sound in 2022.

    •ï¿½LOL: Zduhaci
    •ï¿½Replies: @No Worries
    @Priss Factor

    I liked Jeanne Dielman, but I watched it over the course of a few days. It is certainly not the greatest film ever, though. Far from it. If anything, it's an interesting experiment in filmmaking and not much else.

    Replies: @Priss Factor
  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • @skrik
    @Sparkon


    but you refuse to understand that Friedman’s description of the core columns he saw being in “too-good condition†pretty much rules out your shaped charges
    �
    No; I refuse nothing that seems reasonable; I don't see any evidence contradicting my theses. You have some other idea(s)? Fine. Research then publish; I'm 'all ears'.

    BUT: I do think that we agree that WTCs 1, 2 & 7 were explosively control-demolished AND I think that we know by what combination of rogue-regimes.

    It's *who/there* where justice-implementation must start. rgds

    Replies: @Sparkon

    No; I refuse nothing that seems reasonable;

    There is nothing at all unreasonable about Friedman’s observations, nor is it unreasonable for me to note that you’ve been dodging them.

    I do think Friedman’s report of columns in “too-good condition” is offering us a valuable clue, but so far nobody here has picked up on it.

    Any theory must account for all of the evidence.

  • Ron Unz recently noted “the sharp decline in quality of the New York Times.†He might have added that we can still learn things from the Times by reading between the lines, the way Soviet-era Russians read Tass and Pravda. That’s a good way to read today’s David Lynch obituary. The Times, like the rest...
  • @A Competent Physicist
    When I checked out the Unz Review this morning it was a real jolt reading the words "RIP David Lynch". I couldn't read this article right away and simply prayed thanking God for the life and work of this marvelous man. It was interesting to read your perspectives emphasizing his childlike approach to his art and life untainted by cynicism, still capable of seeing great beauty and ugliness, in the world and beyond it. More than anyone else, he could peel back the curtain and capture the hidden higher reality coexisting everywhere in parallel to our own on film, visible to those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. I hope to meet this man in heaven someday and enjoy a cup of coffee with him.

    Replies: @Kevin Barrett

    He’s also on the short list of artists I’d love to meet over coffee (or halal wine) in paradise to say “thank you for your work.” At one point had I hoped to meet him in this life too. He and I were both living in Madison, Wisconsin in 2006 when I was being witch-hunted in the national media as “that 9/11 conspiracy professor.” https://news.wisc.edu/archive/barrettissue/ I was getting major positive coverage in The Capital Times, one of the two local papers, during that period, as well as fair-to-positive coverage from the local CBS affiliate. (High-level people at both outlets were closet truthers.) In December 2006, at the tail end of my six months worth of “15 minutes of fame,” Lynch did his 9/11 interview with Dutch TV. I always wondered if the press coverage of my controversy at the university had something to do with that, and hoped to meet him some day and ask him. I did try to reach out to him a couple of times, but famous filmmakers are hard to reach unless you know somebody.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Sharonbaron
    @Kevin Barrett

    Thank you for sharing that. It was an interesting read.

    Now this article I just read was good, but Anglin did an article that was the best out of all the RIP Lynch articles out there.

    Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  • Unlike the Hollywood producer who is said to have wisecracked “I have the heart of a small boy. I keep it in a jar on my desk†…

    Sure it was just a joke? This is Hollywood we’re talking here. 😉

    •ï¿½Replies: @Zduhaci
    @Digital Samizdat

    YIKES
    , @Dave Bowman
    @Digital Samizdat

    ((( Hollywood producer ))).

    Literally anything is possible.
  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • @John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt
    Witnessing is something. Whether what I experienced has a manmade origin or not does not matter in the least. I'll always be curious.

    Event 1: tail end 1970's, red, green, blue lights over Lake Michigan forming moving triangles. Our young family had watched a film on TV and spooned together. As heading toward bedrooms, dad announces "wuz this?" while retrieving window fan. We wiggle into the window bay to see silent lights form rotating contracting or expanding triangles. Lights disappeared, went to bed. Light show, lasers, whadevah. Explainable.

    Event 3: early 2000's, a skydiver laying in the open door of a Twin Otter at take off. As climbing, I glance at Farmer McNasty's huge oak and the comic book flying saucer "hiding" from our hangar behind the tree. Classic bronze-colored saucer with a bubble atop. Large, very beautiful jewel-like red, green, blue and white bright lights. Rotating and wobbling like a drunk. Hilarious, and then my view changed so I didn't see my flying saucer anymore. Hoax, prank, cumulative hypoxia, whadevah. Explainable.

    Event 2: mid-1990's, bringing a 70 ft racing yacht back from Chicago to Mackinac Race along with ten sailors, one girlfriend and a famous, no-nonsense CEO owner/CEO. Sailors are all electrical engineers, mostly IBM. We are running with the wind under full spinnaker and having a somewhat intoxicated blast surfing until we notice an enormous object cruising in the opposite direction against the wind at 1,000 agl. Crisp lines, perfect tetrahedron, white/off-white and casting a crisp shadow below. Size of a small town. Self-propelled with no disernible means of propulsion. No way manmade was consensus at the time. I hold a computer engineering PhD from a top five program and enjoy a good professional reputation. I am an experienced pilot with many ratings and an outdoorsman. The object witnessed sent a chill down our spines for years afterwards. Open to explanation, but strong belief the object was constructed by non-human entities. No way the means for building the object could be concealed from prying eyes during lengthy construction period. Open.

    If you co-witnessed Event 2, Ron, perhaps your skepticism would be tempered as mine is.

    Replies: @OmK

    There is already a technology which can make space (high quality) images.
    It is by laser or by something else. But the technology has not yet been released. Because it was developed for the purpose of general public’s mind-control.
    I also experienced such thing in 2012 or 3.

  • Rumble link Bitchute link FFWN link At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. Sachs is a highbrow policy advisor who used to make top-100-most-important-people-in-the-world lists, but has lost his Establishment position after trumpeting unspeakable truths. Trump, for his part, is a middlebrow-at-best showman with a genius for mixing unspeakable...
  • @anarchyst
    @DanFromCT

    Speaking of Wall Street...

    For about a week before the destruction of the WTC, certain stocks seemed to have more strange activity than usual.

    Jewish manipulation because of "prior knowledge" of 9-11?

    Replies: @DanFromCT

    So much of Wall Street relies on prior knowledge. Years ago a Jewish fellow working for Jim Cramer wrote a book, Trading With the Enemy, in which he claimed Cramer would get tipped off about market-moving stories about to air on the financial news network, CNBC. Cramer’s source was one of the morning show’s anchors they called “the brain,†which is the usual cover story for insider trading. Putting it another way, the financial news loves attributing insider trading to genius—and it must have been some very special genius for Jeffrey Epstein to make $100 million trading options when people who worked with him said he knew nothing about options. Cramer also supposedly got tipped off by fellow Jews working at the big houses about market-moving changes in analysts’ ratings. Cramer would supposedly then work a Chinese fire drill hiding his suspiciously timed trades.

    So, of course the presumption was and remains that those airline shorts just before 9/11 were based on prior knowledge the attack would take place, which is precisely why nothing, as far as I know, has happened—or ever will happen. Then there was Israel’s Odigo, the Hebrew messaging service, that warned its subscribers to not go near the WTC that morning. What’s even more amazing is that Congress, the FBI, CIA, State Dept, etc. couldn’t care less if Israel attacked the United States on 9/11.

    •ï¿½Thanks: anarchyst
    •ï¿½Replies: @Patrick McNally
    @DanFromCT

    > Israel’s Odigo, the Hebrew messaging service, that warned its subscribers to not go near the WTC that morning.

    Totally false. Two Israelis received a message that morning which said nothing about the WTC but which they immediately thought of when they heard about the attack. No one in New York received any messages through Odigo.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20020607000423/https://www.amenusa.org/prior.htm

    -----
    Alex Diamandis, vice president of sales and marketing, confirmed that workers in Odigo's research and development and international sales office in Israel received a warning from another Odigo user approximately two hours prior to the first attack...

    Soon after the terrorist attacks on New York, the Odigo employees notified their management, who contacted Israeli security services. In turn, the FBI was informed of the instant message warning...

    Diamandis today in a telephone interview also said the warning message did not identify the World Trade Center as the attack target.
    -----

    https://web.archive.org/web/20030201161145/http://www.atnewyork.com/news/article.php/8471_893851

    -----
    Odigo, which has a satellite office in Israel, said employees there received pop-up text messages containing advance warning of the attacks but said the IMs did not mention the World Trade Center specifically, or any other targets.
    -----
  • Ron Unz recently noted “the sharp decline in quality of the New York Times.†He might have added that we can still learn things from the Times by reading between the lines, the way Soviet-era Russians read Tass and Pravda. That’s a good way to read today’s David Lynch obituary. The Times, like the rest...
  • When I checked out the Unz Review this morning it was a real jolt reading the words “RIP David Lynch”. I couldn’t read this article right away and simply prayed thanking God for the life and work of this marvelous man. It was interesting to read your perspectives emphasizing his childlike approach to his art and life untainted by cynicism, still capable of seeing great beauty and ugliness, in the world and beyond it. More than anyone else, he could peel back the curtain and capture the hidden higher reality coexisting everywhere in parallel to our own on film, visible to those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. I hope to meet this man in heaven someday and enjoy a cup of coffee with him.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Kevin Barrett
    @A Competent Physicist

    He's also on the short list of artists I'd love to meet over coffee (or halal wine) in paradise to say "thank you for your work." At one point had I hoped to meet him in this life too. He and I were both living in Madison, Wisconsin in 2006 when I was being witch-hunted in the national media as "that 9/11 conspiracy professor." https://news.wisc.edu/archive/barrettissue/ I was getting major positive coverage in The Capital Times, one of the two local papers, during that period, as well as fair-to-positive coverage from the local CBS affiliate. (High-level people at both outlets were closet truthers.) In December 2006, at the tail end of my six months worth of "15 minutes of fame," Lynch did his 9/11 interview with Dutch TV. I always wondered if the press coverage of my controversy at the university had something to do with that, and hoped to meet him some day and ask him. I did try to reach out to him a couple of times, but famous filmmakers are hard to reach unless you know somebody.

    Replies: @Sharonbaron
  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • Correction :
    FEMALE’s ⇒ FEMA’s

  • Urgent

    It was FEMA :

    ã€UNBELIEVABLE !
    FEMALE’s Role in the California Fires :
    Leaked Documents Prove Weather Manipulation, Land Grabs, and
    Heat-Mapping Technologies Used
    to Ignite Fires ! (Jan.13,2025)】

    ï¼ Gazetteller . com

    🔶 https://gazetteller.com/unbelievable-femas-role-in-the-california-fires-leaked-documents-prove-weather-manipulation-land-grabs-and-heat-mapping-technologies-used-to-ignite-fires/

    Administrator of FEMA (now) :
    Deanne Crisbad(Cris”well”)

    Trump nominee
    for (new) director of FEMA :
    Kevin Guthrie

  • Rumble link Bitchute link FFWN link At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. Sachs is a highbrow policy advisor who used to make top-100-most-important-people-in-the-world lists, but has lost his Establishment position after trumpeting unspeakable truths. Trump, for his part, is a middlebrow-at-best showman with a genius for mixing unspeakable...
  • Remove our military out of Germany and Japan and set up shop in Israel.
    Rosenbergs
    Pollard
    USS Liberty
    Lavon Affair
    5 Dancing Israelis
    Lucky Larry
    Epstein
    JFK assassination

    I would say America has plenty of reasons not to to trust Israel. Israel has PROVEN it is not an ally to America or the West.

  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • skrik says:
    @Mr. Anon
    @skrik


    I don’t make stuff up.
    �
    No, you just peddle stuff you've read that somebody else made up.

    I do not give a FF about 600C warmed up steel, because any such had *zero* effect on the pre-loaded explosives in WTCs 1, 2 & 7.
    �
    There were no pre-loaded explosives. There is no evidence of such. And if fire can't bring down a steel-framed building, why do they bother to fireproof the steel?

    That quote was possibly before the general consensus = inside-job = explosive disassembly meaning it’s possibly now merely truther-history.
    �
    General consensus? Among whom? A dozen or so people on this thread? A few thousand people around the World who have yammered on about this for the last quarter century. There is no "general consensus" other than the official story - and a lot of that is down to people like you who have poisoned the well for any serious investigation of the reality of 9/11.

    And, in any event, an "inside job" does not require explosive disassembly. This is just a fetish of Truthers. It's part of their catecism. It is perfectly possible for there to have been a wider conspiracy behind 9/11, including the involvement of state actors - i.e. an "inside job", with the destruction of the towers and Pentagon happening essentially exactly as the NIST studies concluded. But you guys have blinded yourself to anything but your own little mystery cult. It's why you are inneffectual nobodies who have had no influence.

    Replies: @skrik

    with the destruction of the towers and Pentagon happening essentially exactly as the NIST studies concluded

    No. From the headline article:

    9/11 Truthers endlessly refer to the thousands of architects and engineers who have publicly signed the 9/11 Truth Statement, saying the official story of the WTC attacks is physically impossible

    9/11 Truthers are far more than a

    little mystery cult

    and anyone can join; research two convincing bits of evidence:

    1. The collapse of WTC7. [DIY = you do the research work*].

    2. Try searching for this:
    “North Tower Exploding by David Chandler†AE911Truth site:youtube.com

    WTC7 was clearly a ‘ controlled demolition,’ and Chandler’s North Tower vid clearly illustrates ditto for WTCs 1 & 2 [identical vertical collapse].

    Q: Where have you been hiding [= ignoring proven reality] for the last 23+ years? One could theorise that you put coffee-beans into your ears while saying “la la la†as you ignored the available evidence out of [erring!] ideological grounds.

    *[for any too lazy to research, try searching for this:
    “WTC7 in Freefall: No Longer Controversial” DavidChandler911]

    •ï¿½Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @skrik

    AE911 Truth is the name of the organization. Despite it's name, many of it's members are neither engineers nor architects. As Ryan Dawson pointed out, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth couldn't even be bothered to look at the architectural drawings of the Pentagon, and did not know how it's architecture was laid out.

    WTC7 was clearly a ‘ controlled demolition,’ and Chandler’s North Tower vid clearly illustrates ditto for WTCs 1 & 2 [identical vertical collapse].
    �
    WTC 7 does look like a controlled demolition, at least from the videos available, all of which are at some distance and obscured by other buildings. The collapse of WTC 1 and 2 don't look like any controlled demolition I've ever seen. Still, WTC 7 could have fallen of it's own just from the structural and fire damage it sustained. Something you guys never grasp is that buildings fall straight down because that's the way that gravity points. Every building that collapses falls due to gravity. It's just a question of what weakens it enough that it does so.

    Replies: @littlereddot, @Been_there_done_that
  • Rumble link Bitchute link FFWN link At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. Sachs is a highbrow policy advisor who used to make top-100-most-important-people-in-the-world lists, but has lost his Establishment position after trumpeting unspeakable truths. Trump, for his part, is a middlebrow-at-best showman with a genius for mixing unspeakable...
  • @NoBodyImportant
    @Trinity

    And how do you know it's a lie? They've already used shit that looked like Nukes in Syria.

    Replies: @Trinity

    You can tell a kike is lying when you see their lips moving. The kike lies like a rug.(((They))) are the original and therefore the kangz of Dindu Nuffins.

  • Trump needs to apprehend all (((Jews/lsraelis))) involved in the 9-11 attacks ASAP, hopefully all are still alive. ((( They))) all have 3,000 plus counts of murder in the 1st, and that is just for starters, look at the deaths (((they))) caused to innocent Iraqis . Once apprehended, death by hanging. I still remember some poor souls leaping hundreds of feet into the air to their death rather than be burned alive. For 23 years these demons have escaped justice. Let’s see IF the Trumpstein team cares more for American lives than Jewish/Israeli terrorists.

    And the Epstein and Diddy tapes need to be released as well as the info on JFK and MLK. QuitLyingTo America QLTA is the newest hat and t shirt if Trumpster has the sack to do his job right, which I say he doesn’t.

    #110 MAGA

  • JM says:
    @ariadna
    "At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. “

    Not even at second and third glance.
    Not unless you consider the fact that both know when the wind shifts direction and they prudently trim their sails— Sachs because he is a smart bloodhound and Trump because some Jew warned him.

    "Sachs and Trump share an interest in unspeakable truths in general—and truths about the 9/11 wars in particular.â€

    Bless their darling hearts, valiant crusades for truth, no less!

    "Trump has even made a few statements echoing claims of the 9/11 truth movement. During an interview on CNBC’s “The Kudlow Report†in 2011 Trump said: “I blame George Bush for 9/11. The CIA failed. The FBI failed. Everybody failed. But, ultimately, the president is the one that’s responsible.â€

    How is that "echoing claims of the 9/11 truth movement"??? He is blaming them for not preventing the attack by them Ayrab terrorists (the kind of thing that would never happen on his watch…)
    Sachs also supports the official narrative by using the Chomsky “blowback†lie. Our imperialism, wars and all caused the Muslims to just go nuts…

    "In February 2016 debate Trump also referenced the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center: “The World Trade Center came down during his (Bush’s) watch. I mean, the World Trade Center came down, and he was president. It was a disgraceful situation.â€

    No, he did NOT reference any CONTROLLED demolition! He only said it was Bush’ fault the WTC came down.

    Of course both Sachs and Trump know who was responsible. Even my late dog knew and told our neighbor's cat.
    But to imagine they would ever utter it publicly is astoundingly naive.

    Replies: @JM, @JM

    It’s here c. posn 29.

    https://yandex.ru/video/preview/16392313150230042883

    But the main inference one could draw from the facts on 9-11 here is that Trump is, formally speaking, a groomed Israeli agent. How else (e.g.) to explain the fact that (as far as I know) only two prominent people “predicted” the 9-11 WTC event, Netanyahu and Trump?

  • @Priss Factor
    Who is this?

    https://twitter.com/RealAlexJones/status/1879312259349930294

    Replies: @JM

    Shane Stevens: ‘I hope this will be the beginning of healing for this country’.

    Doubt it. The opposite is well on the way.

  • On September 11, 2004, the New York Times published an opinion piece commemorating the third anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks. The article began by acknowledging that key facts about what happened that day continued to be withheld by government agencies: These are extraordinary words from our nation’s newspaper of record. The suggestion that the...
  • “9/11 UNVIELED . . . BEST SHORT SUMMARY — Adviser to RICHARD NIXON, Deputy Director for Planning at the NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL, co-founder Center for Strategic and International Studies, Washington, D.C., wrote:

    “9/11 Unveiled by Enver Masud of The Wisdom Fund, is the best short summary of what most Americans and virtually all of the rest of the world consider to be the “9/11 mystery”. In this factual account, Enver Masud avoids the popular focus on the accumulating wealth of merely circumstantial evidence that the official U.S. governmental account of 9/11 is incomplete.

    “Briefly he suggests possible alternative motivations for others than Muslim terrorists to attack the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center. Possible motivation, however, does not constitute proof of anything in a court of law. Therefore, Masud’s monograph, “9/11 Unveiled,” serves the cause of accuracy in history only by marshalling the hard evidence that must be rebutted to stop conspiracy theories and popular paranoia about a hidden hand behind this first attack in two centuries on the American homeland.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Dickson_Crane

    Denying hard facts about 9/11 has brought us to the BRINK OF NUCLEAR WAR
    https://www.twf.org/News/Y2024/1216-AvoidingHardTruths.pdf

  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • Witnessing is something. Whether what I experienced has a manmade origin or not does not matter in the least. I’ll always be curious.

    Event 1: tail end 1970’s, red, green, blue lights over Lake Michigan forming moving triangles. Our young family had watched a film on TV and spooned together. As heading toward bedrooms, dad announces “wuz this?” while retrieving window fan. We wiggle into the window bay to see silent lights form rotating contracting or expanding triangles. Lights disappeared, went to bed. Light show, lasers, whadevah. Explainable.

    Event 3: early 2000’s, a skydiver laying in the open door of a Twin Otter at take off. As climbing, I glance at Farmer McNasty’s huge oak and the comic book flying saucer “hiding” from our hangar behind the tree. Classic bronze-colored saucer with a bubble atop. Large, very beautiful jewel-like red, green, blue and white bright lights. Rotating and wobbling like a drunk. Hilarious, and then my view changed so I didn’t see my flying saucer anymore. Hoax, prank, cumulative hypoxia, whadevah. Explainable.

    Event 2: mid-1990’s, bringing a 70 ft racing yacht back from Chicago to Mackinac Race along with ten sailors, one girlfriend and a famous, no-nonsense CEO owner/CEO. Sailors are all electrical engineers, mostly IBM. We are running with the wind under full spinnaker and having a somewhat intoxicated blast surfing until we notice an enormous object cruising in the opposite direction against the wind at 1,000 agl. Crisp lines, perfect tetrahedron, white/off-white and casting a crisp shadow below. Size of a small town. Self-propelled with no disernible means of propulsion. No way manmade was consensus at the time. I hold a computer engineering PhD from a top five program and enjoy a good professional reputation. I am an experienced pilot with many ratings and an outdoorsman. The object witnessed sent a chill down our spines for years afterwards. Open to explanation, but strong belief the object was constructed by non-human entities. No way the means for building the object could be concealed from prying eyes during lengthy construction period. Open.

    If you co-witnessed Event 2, Ron, perhaps your skepticism would be tempered as mine is.

    •ï¿½Replies: @OmK
    @John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt

    There is already a technology which can make space (high quality) images.
    It is by laser or by something else. But the technology has not yet been released. Because it was developed for the purpose of general public's mind-control.
    I also experienced such thing in 2012 or 3.
  • Rumble link Bitchute link FFWN link At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. Sachs is a highbrow policy advisor who used to make top-100-most-important-people-in-the-world lists, but has lost his Establishment position after trumpeting unspeakable truths. Trump, for his part, is a middlebrow-at-best showman with a genius for mixing unspeakable...
  • JM says:
    @ariadna
    "At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. “

    Not even at second and third glance.
    Not unless you consider the fact that both know when the wind shifts direction and they prudently trim their sails— Sachs because he is a smart bloodhound and Trump because some Jew warned him.

    "Sachs and Trump share an interest in unspeakable truths in general—and truths about the 9/11 wars in particular.â€

    Bless their darling hearts, valiant crusades for truth, no less!

    "Trump has even made a few statements echoing claims of the 9/11 truth movement. During an interview on CNBC’s “The Kudlow Report†in 2011 Trump said: “I blame George Bush for 9/11. The CIA failed. The FBI failed. Everybody failed. But, ultimately, the president is the one that’s responsible.â€

    How is that "echoing claims of the 9/11 truth movement"??? He is blaming them for not preventing the attack by them Ayrab terrorists (the kind of thing that would never happen on his watch…)
    Sachs also supports the official narrative by using the Chomsky “blowback†lie. Our imperialism, wars and all caused the Muslims to just go nuts…

    "In February 2016 debate Trump also referenced the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center: “The World Trade Center came down during his (Bush’s) watch. I mean, the World Trade Center came down, and he was president. It was a disgraceful situation.â€

    No, he did NOT reference any CONTROLLED demolition! He only said it was Bush’ fault the WTC came down.

    Of course both Sachs and Trump know who was responsible. Even my late dog knew and told our neighbor's cat.
    But to imagine they would ever utter it publicly is astoundingly naive.

    Replies: @JM, @JM

    Hang on Señora/Señor (only jokin’).

    Trump has also said that the WTC buildings could not have been brought down by aircraft. In doing so he gave the reason that the steel core construction and the too low temperatures generated by burning aviation fuel to bend it. It’s on video. I immediately downloaded it but cannot find the url.

    Won’t be hanging around for a proper enquiry, however. In fact, he might as well have not said it.

    BTW, this incorporates elements from both the port of embarkation and disembarkation:

  • @DanFromCT
    @Trinity

    How can you say that? Only anti-science cranks disbelieve the official narratives about the Kennedy assassinations, USS Liberty, or about 9/11 that nineteen Arabs who couldn’t taxi a Cessna 150 trainer with a flight instructor sitting next to them one day couldn’t magically on the next day take over and fly jetliners hundreds of miles into bulls-eye targets using maneuvers, in the case of the Pentagon, that seasoned airline pilots with thousands of hours in the air say they couldn’t duplicate in a lifetime.

    Only a stupid conspiracy theorist would doubt that the laws of physics won’t be suspended when it’s for Israel’s benefit, of skyscrapers falling at free-fall speed into their own footprint, or that jet fuel fires can’t magically keep burning for months in the depths of the Twin Towers’ sub-basements and stay hot enough to keep steel molten. And, please don’t claim that just because there was zero crash debris that a jetliner didn’t slam into the Pentagon or disappear without a trace into a small hole in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, OK? Skyscrapers collapsing into their own footprint from small fires happens all the time.

    Remember what they say on Wall Street about investments, that past performance is no guarantee of future results. In other words, just because the government has always lied in the past doesn’t mean it’s not telling the truth this time around

    Replies: @ariadna, @anarchyst

    Speaking of Wall Street…

    For about a week before the destruction of the WTC, certain stocks seemed to have more strange activity than usual.

    Jewish manipulation because of “prior knowledge” of 9-11?

    •ï¿½Replies: @DanFromCT
    @anarchyst

    So much of Wall Street relies on prior knowledge. Years ago a Jewish fellow working for Jim Cramer wrote a book, Trading With the Enemy, in which he claimed Cramer would get tipped off about market-moving stories about to air on the financial news network, CNBC. Cramer’s source was one of the morning show’s anchors they called “the brain,†which is the usual cover story for insider trading. Putting it another way, the financial news loves attributing insider trading to genius—and it must have been some very special genius for Jeffrey Epstein to make $100 million trading options when people who worked with him said he knew nothing about options. Cramer also supposedly got tipped off by fellow Jews working at the big houses about market-moving changes in analysts’ ratings. Cramer would supposedly then work a Chinese fire drill hiding his suspiciously timed trades.

    So, of course the presumption was and remains that those airline shorts just before 9/11 were based on prior knowledge the attack would take place, which is precisely why nothing, as far as I know, has happened—or ever will happen. Then there was Israel’s Odigo, the Hebrew messaging service, that warned its subscribers to not go near the WTC that morning. What’s even more amazing is that Congress, the FBI, CIA, State Dept, etc. couldn’t care less if Israel attacked the United States on 9/11.

    Replies: @Patrick McNally
  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • @Anonymous
    Hello Ron,
    I am a frequent reader of The Unz Review, and strongly supportive of your work. I have learned a lot from reading articles in TUR. I would like to make a comment concerning the alleged "moon landings", which is the ONLY issue where I disagree with your own assessment.

    I think that in this case you are placing the burden of proof on the wrong shoulders. It is the people who make extraordinary claims who should be pressed the hardest to provide proofs (examples: the claim that aliens from outer space are regularly visiting the Earth, or the claim that 6 million jews were put to death in gas chambers during WW2), not the people who take a sceptical attitude and doubt these claims. Clearly, the claim that a handful of people visited the moon in the years 1969-72 is extraordinary, given the level of technological knowledge in the 1960s, the poor track record (many failed launches) of the US space programme before the "moon landings", the lack of protection of the astronauts against the high levels of radioactivity in the Van Allen belts, and the fact that in the last 54 years, no human being has been further away from the Earth than the ISS (400 kilometres).

    In truth, the proof that has been offered for the "moon landings" is almost as scant as for the other two examples mentioned above. The TV footage is far too blurry for anyone to be able to tell where it was shot (it is claimed to be a copy of an original which has mysteriously vanished). The still pictures are ridden with anomalies (for example, in some of them two sources of light are visible, where there should have been only one, the sun). Also, while it would be possible with today's technology to use unmanned satellites to take detailed pictures of the alleged landing sites on the moon, showing the Lunar Modules if they are actually there, the US goverment has shown absolutely no interest in doing so, or even in allowing others to do so at their own expense.

    Furthermore, since the PR and goodwill generated by the alleged "moon landings" is enormous, it is clear that the US government had a very strong motive for faking them (in particular during a time period when the US received a lot of "bad will" from the Vietnam war, political murders, and civil unrest).

    I suggest that (when you have some time at your disposal, I understand that you are a busy man) you read some books that go through the alleged proofs of the "moon landings" in more detail. I suggest "One small step?" by Gerhard Wisniewski. You may also want to watch the movie "A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon" by journalist and filmmaker Bart Sibrel, and as a companion to that, the "memoir" of Bart Sibrel entitled "Moon Man". Perhaps you will find that the "moon landings" is well deserving of a place in your "American Pravda" series.

    Replies: @littlereddot, @Mr. Anon

    Clearly, the claim that a handful of people visited the moon in the years 1969-72 is extraordinary, given the level of technological knowledge in the 1960s, the poor track record (many failed launches) of the US space programme before the “moon landingsâ€, the lack of protection of the astronauts against the high levels of radioactivity in the Van Allen belts, and the fact that in the last 54 years, no human being has been further away from the Earth than the ISS (400 kilometres).

    None of that is true. The level of technological knowledge – and more importantly, ability – as pertains to rocketry was about the same in the late 1960s, as it was in the early 2000’s. The reason we didn’t do anything more ambitious in the 2000’s than in the 1960s was because the technology had not advanced much. And we didn’t bother to do the same thing is because……why? Why replicate a stunt, the value of which lies primarily in being the first to do it. As I mentioned upthread, the deepest manned ocean descent – into the challenger deep of the Marianas Trench was only done in the early 1960s. And then was not done again for about another fifty years, in 2012. Does that mean that it never happened at all? Or that there just isn’t much intrinsic reason to do it.

    There is no radioactivity in the Van Allen belts. There are energentic charged particles trapped on magnetic field lines. You get a dose going through them. You get a bigger dose lingering in them (which nobody wants to do). The faster you go through them, the less of a dose you get. And they didn’t go through the densest parf of the Van Allen belts, owing to the relative orientation of the geomagnetic equator and the plane of the Moon’s orbit.

    The TV footage is far too blurry for anyone to be able to tell where it was shot (it is claimed to be a copy of an original which has mysteriously vanished).

    So, the original wouldn’t have been much clearer, it was low-resolution video that was data-rate limited. And anyway, even if the original video-tape still existed, it might be well nigh unreadable just from age. You probably can’t find the original of Euclid’s Geometry in Ancient Greek. Does that mean that Geometry is false? And the movies and still pictures were quite clear and had very good resolution.

    The still pictures are ridden with anomalies (for example, in some of them two sources of light are visible, where there should have been only one, the sun).

    No, that isn’t true. Some pictures have shadows that have been interpreted as being from more than one light source. And there was more than one light source on the Moon’s surface: the Sun, and Sunlight reflected off of other surfaces (the spacecraft, lunar surface).

    Also, while it would be possible with today’s technology to use unmanned satellites to take detailed pictures of the alleged landing sites on the moon, showing the Lunar Modules if they are actually there, the US goverment has shown absolutely no interest in doing so, or even in allowing others to do so at their own expense.

    This was done, by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, and you lot just said it was faked. Why should NASA or any one else bother to take more pictures? Moon hoax believers would simply say that it was faked, no matter how good the imagery was. You’re an audience that would never be placated? So why bother placating you? In any event, you’re an audience that is irrelevant: nobody cares what you think.

  • @skrik
    @littlereddot

    https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/faqs/649-faq-3-has-there-ever-been-a-total-collapse-of-a-steel-frame-fire-protected-high-rise-besides-world-trade-center-buildings-1-2-and-7

    FAQ #3: Has there ever been a total collapse of a steel-frame, fire-protected high-rise besides World Trade Center Buildings 1, 2, and 7?
    No. There has never been a total collapse of a steel-frame, fire-protected high-rise building other than the three World Trade Center high-rises on 9/11.
    There have, however, been partial collapses of steel-frame, fire-protected high-rise buildings around the world and a total collapse of a steel-frame high-rise building without fire protection in Iran — although AE911Truth has documented overwhelming evidence that the collapse of this building was caused by controlled demolition.
    There have also been partial and total collapses of hybrid steel/reinforced concrete-frame high-rise buildings without fire protection as well as partial and total collapses of reinforced concrete-frame buildings, which typically don’t have fire insulation. There has also been a total collapse of a concrete-frame building without steel reinforcement.
    Therefore, the Twin Towers and Building 7 stand alone as the only steel-frame, fire-protected high-rise buildings to experience total collapse ostensibly due to fire
    �
    I don't make stuff up.

    That quote was possibly before the general consensus = inside-job = explosive disassembly meaning it's possibly now merely truther-history.

    I do not give a FF about 600C warmed up steel, because any such had *zero* effect on the pre-loaded explosives in WTCs 1, 2 & 7.

    Have you asked your medical advisors about OCPD?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I don’t make stuff up.

    No, you just peddle stuff you’ve read that somebody else made up.

    I do not give a FF about 600C warmed up steel, because any such had *zero* effect on the pre-loaded explosives in WTCs 1, 2 & 7.

    There were no pre-loaded explosives. There is no evidence of such. And if fire can’t bring down a steel-framed building, why do they bother to fireproof the steel?

    That quote was possibly before the general consensus = inside-job = explosive disassembly meaning it’s possibly now merely truther-history.

    General consensus? Among whom? A dozen or so people on this thread? A few thousand people around the World who have yammered on about this for the last quarter century. There is no “general consensus” other than the official story – and a lot of that is down to people like you who have poisoned the well for any serious investigation of the reality of 9/11.

    And, in any event, an “inside job” does not require explosive disassembly. This is just a fetish of Truthers. It’s part of their catecism. It is perfectly possible for there to have been a wider conspiracy behind 9/11, including the involvement of state actors – i.e. an “inside job”, with the destruction of the towers and Pentagon happening essentially exactly as the NIST studies concluded. But you guys have blinded yourself to anything but your own little mystery cult. It’s why you are inneffectual nobodies who have had no influence.

    •ï¿½Replies: @skrik
    @Mr. Anon


    with the destruction of the towers and Pentagon happening essentially exactly as the NIST studies concluded
    �
    No. From the headline article:

    9/11 Truthers endlessly refer to the thousands of architects and engineers who have publicly signed the 9/11 Truth Statement, saying the official story of the WTC attacks is physically impossible
    �
    9/11 Truthers are far more than a

    little mystery cult
    �
    and anyone can join; research two convincing bits of evidence:

    1. The collapse of WTC7. [DIY = you do the research work*].

    2. Try searching for this:
    “North Tower Exploding by David Chandler†AE911Truth site:youtube.com

    WTC7 was clearly a ' controlled demolition,' and Chandler's North Tower vid clearly illustrates ditto for WTCs 1 & 2 [identical vertical collapse].

    Q: Where have you been hiding [= ignoring proven reality] for the last 23+ years? One could theorise that you put coffee-beans into your ears while saying “la la la†as you ignored the available evidence out of [erring!] ideological grounds.

    *[for any too lazy to research, try searching for this:
    "WTC7 in Freefall: No Longer Controversial" DavidChandler911]

    Replies: @Mr. Anon
  • OmK says:

    Donald John Trump doubts official 9.11 narrative. See the next one :

    ã€Mini nukes were used on 9.11】
    ï¼ Presstv. ir’s telephone interview to Jim Fetzer (2017)

    🔶 https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2017/09/11/534825/Mini-nukes-were-used-to-blow-apart-Twin-Towers-on-911

    So, Donald J. Trump may release CIA documents and FBI documents.
    For it, it is important that who are Trump’s nominees for director of CIA, director of FBI,and DNI.

    Trump’s nominees :

    ・Director of CIA : John Ratcliffe

    ・Director of FBI : Kash Patel
    (Kashyap Pramod Vinod Patel)

    ・DNI
    (Director of National Intelligence):
    Tulsi Gabbard

  • Rumble link Bitchute link FFWN link At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. Sachs is a highbrow policy advisor who used to make top-100-most-important-people-in-the-world lists, but has lost his Establishment position after trumpeting unspeakable truths. Trump, for his part, is a middlebrow-at-best showman with a genius for mixing unspeakable...
  • “At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. “

    Not even at second and third glance.
    Not unless you consider the fact that both know when the wind shifts direction and they prudently trim their sails— Sachs because he is a smart bloodhound and Trump because some Jew warned him.

    “Sachs and Trump share an interest in unspeakable truths in general—and truths about the 9/11 wars in particular.â€

    Bless their darling hearts, valiant crusades for truth, no less!

    “Trump has even made a few statements echoing claims of the 9/11 truth movement. During an interview on CNBC’s “The Kudlow Report†in 2011 Trump said: “I blame George Bush for 9/11. The CIA failed. The FBI failed. Everybody failed. But, ultimately, the president is the one that’s responsible.â€

    How is that “echoing claims of the 9/11 truth movement”??? He is blaming them for not preventing the attack by them Ayrab terrorists (the kind of thing that would never happen on his watch…)
    Sachs also supports the official narrative by using the Chomsky “blowback†lie. Our imperialism, wars and all caused the Muslims to just go nuts…

    “In February 2016 debate Trump also referenced the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center: “The World Trade Center came down during his (Bush’s) watch. I mean, the World Trade Center came down, and he was president. It was a disgraceful situation.â€

    No, he did NOT reference any CONTROLLED demolition! He only said it was Bush’ fault the WTC came down.

    Of course both Sachs and Trump know who was responsible. Even my late dog knew and told our neighbor’s cat.
    But to imagine they would ever utter it publicly is astoundingly naive.

    •ï¿½Replies: @JM
    @ariadna

    Hang on Señora/Señor (only jokin').

    Trump has also said that the WTC buildings could not have been brought down by aircraft. In doing so he gave the reason that the steel core construction and the too low temperatures generated by burning aviation fuel to bend it. It's on video. I immediately downloaded it but cannot find the url.

    Won't be hanging around for a proper enquiry, however. In fact, he might as well have not said it.

    BTW, this incorporates elements from both the port of embarkation and disembarkation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Khmu093ug
    , @JM
    @ariadna

    It's here c. posn 29.

    https://yandex.ru/video/preview/16392313150230042883

    But the main inference one could draw from the facts on 9-11 here is that Trump is, formally speaking, a groomed Israeli agent. How else (e.g.) to explain the fact that (as far as I know) only two prominent people "predicted" the 9-11 WTC event, Netanyahu and Trump?
  • @DanFromCT
    @Trinity

    How can you say that? Only anti-science cranks disbelieve the official narratives about the Kennedy assassinations, USS Liberty, or about 9/11 that nineteen Arabs who couldn’t taxi a Cessna 150 trainer with a flight instructor sitting next to them one day couldn’t magically on the next day take over and fly jetliners hundreds of miles into bulls-eye targets using maneuvers, in the case of the Pentagon, that seasoned airline pilots with thousands of hours in the air say they couldn’t duplicate in a lifetime.

    Only a stupid conspiracy theorist would doubt that the laws of physics won’t be suspended when it’s for Israel’s benefit, of skyscrapers falling at free-fall speed into their own footprint, or that jet fuel fires can’t magically keep burning for months in the depths of the Twin Towers’ sub-basements and stay hot enough to keep steel molten. And, please don’t claim that just because there was zero crash debris that a jetliner didn’t slam into the Pentagon or disappear without a trace into a small hole in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, OK? Skyscrapers collapsing into their own footprint from small fires happens all the time.

    Remember what they say on Wall Street about investments, that past performance is no guarantee of future results. In other words, just because the government has always lied in the past doesn’t mean it’s not telling the truth this time around

    Replies: @ariadna, @anarchyst

    excellent comment

  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • @skrik
    @OmK


    You are a true genuine Idiot
    �
    s/he/it said, admiring him/her/itself in the mirror.

    Now; read my lips: *NO NUKES*!

    Replies: @OmK

    No one wants to read your crap article.
    Time is very precious.
    To read your crap ones is only waste of precious time.

  • @Anonymous
    Hello Ron,
    I am a frequent reader of The Unz Review, and strongly supportive of your work. I have learned a lot from reading articles in TUR. I would like to make a comment concerning the alleged "moon landings", which is the ONLY issue where I disagree with your own assessment.

    I think that in this case you are placing the burden of proof on the wrong shoulders. It is the people who make extraordinary claims who should be pressed the hardest to provide proofs (examples: the claim that aliens from outer space are regularly visiting the Earth, or the claim that 6 million jews were put to death in gas chambers during WW2), not the people who take a sceptical attitude and doubt these claims. Clearly, the claim that a handful of people visited the moon in the years 1969-72 is extraordinary, given the level of technological knowledge in the 1960s, the poor track record (many failed launches) of the US space programme before the "moon landings", the lack of protection of the astronauts against the high levels of radioactivity in the Van Allen belts, and the fact that in the last 54 years, no human being has been further away from the Earth than the ISS (400 kilometres).

    In truth, the proof that has been offered for the "moon landings" is almost as scant as for the other two examples mentioned above. The TV footage is far too blurry for anyone to be able to tell where it was shot (it is claimed to be a copy of an original which has mysteriously vanished). The still pictures are ridden with anomalies (for example, in some of them two sources of light are visible, where there should have been only one, the sun). Also, while it would be possible with today's technology to use unmanned satellites to take detailed pictures of the alleged landing sites on the moon, showing the Lunar Modules if they are actually there, the US goverment has shown absolutely no interest in doing so, or even in allowing others to do so at their own expense.

    Furthermore, since the PR and goodwill generated by the alleged "moon landings" is enormous, it is clear that the US government had a very strong motive for faking them (in particular during a time period when the US received a lot of "bad will" from the Vietnam war, political murders, and civil unrest).

    I suggest that (when you have some time at your disposal, I understand that you are a busy man) you read some books that go through the alleged proofs of the "moon landings" in more detail. I suggest "One small step?" by Gerhard Wisniewski. You may also want to watch the movie "A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon" by journalist and filmmaker Bart Sibrel, and as a companion to that, the "memoir" of Bart Sibrel entitled "Moon Man". Perhaps you will find that the "moon landings" is well deserving of a place in your "American Pravda" series.

    Replies: @littlereddot, @Mr. Anon

    Unlike the Auschwitz Holocaust accusations, which I tested and found that the official narrative is rather wonky,

    I admit I have not tested out the issue of the moon landings so maintain an agnosticism whether it is true or not.

    But two (relatively) recent things raise my suspicions.

    1. After China announced that they were interested in visiting the moon, NASA suddenly scrambled to get their own Artemis moon mission. Maybe this was just to show “We still as strong and vibrant as we ever were”. But maybe not.

    2. The recent announcement by a certain “international” organisation to preserve the symbolic historical importance of the first moon landing site, which would be at risk due to space tourism. This one smells fishy to me.
    https://www.rt.com/news/611028-moon-endangered-sites-list/

    Both these items may suggest that NASA wants to conceal something about the circa 1969 moon landing sites.

    In 1, place new equipment and footprints at the site to give plausible deniability “oh you can’t find any evidence of the 1969 landing because we walked all over it already”.

    In 2, keep away anyone who can verify that the 1969 landings did not take place “oh, we need to preserve this site, so you stay over there. The 1969 landings are real…trust me.”.

    Again I stress I am no expert. But these recent incidents make me more suspicious.

  • @OmK
    @skrik

    You are a true genuine Idiot.
    Have you read the one in 933 above :
    ã€Mystery Solved ・・・】?
    Anyone who read that one realizes that some nukes were undoubtedly used in 9.11 inside job. ((other ones (usual bombs, thermite) were also used))

    Replies: @skrik

    You are a true genuine Idiot

    s/he/it said, admiring him/her/itself in the mirror.

    Now; read my lips: *NO NUKES*!

    •ï¿½Replies: @OmK
    @skrik

    No one wants to read your crap article.
    Time is very precious.
    To read your crap ones is only waste of precious time.
  • Rumble link Bitchute link FFWN link At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. Sachs is a highbrow policy advisor who used to make top-100-most-important-people-in-the-world lists, but has lost his Establishment position after trumpeting unspeakable truths. Trump, for his part, is a middlebrow-at-best showman with a genius for mixing unspeakable...
  • @Kevin Barrett
    @sarz

    Trump has an uncanny ability to sense which way the wind is blowing and turn it to his advantage. That's one reason his success has outpaced his intelligence. I'm sure he, like so many others, quickly understood what the official story would be, and the likely consequences of challenging it.

    Replies: @Rev. Spooner

    Hello Mr Barret, miss you on UNZ, how are you doing?
    Let me know where I can find you. God bless and stay safe.

  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • @littlereddot

    I don’t make stuff up.
    �
    No. You just regurgitate stuff that you have not digested.

    Did you see the video I attached about the debunking? They specifically said that when this report was written there have been no cases. But since then there have. And I showed you explicit videos of examples.

    I do not give a FF about 600C warmed up steel, because any such had *zero* effect on the pre-loaded explosives in WTCs 1, 2 & 7.
    �
    For the UMPTEENTH time, our discussion is not about explosives. I have already told you that I believe that explosives were used to ENSURE the collapse of WTC.

    But that is not the issue at hand. The issue at hand is your insistence that steel framed buildings cannot fall due to fire.

    Have you asked your medical advisors about OCPD?
    �
    I have no idea what that is. Obviously I was never recommended to take one.

    Again, you display your quick resort to childish insults rather than to stick to the point of the argument. Because you have no argument except "what somebody else said" = "I don't make stuff up".

    Replies: @skrik

    You clearly have a concentration/comprehension problem:

    but I’m not playing so gets his/her/its nickers in a twist

    •ï¿½LOL: littlereddot
  • @skrik
    @OmK


    the-wtc-was-nuked-on-911
    �
    No; nukes were considered long and hard; here is one of my contributions:

    https://www.unz.com/article/did-the-plowshares-program-set-the-stage-for-nuclear-terrorism-on-september-11/?showcomments#comment-6185195

    My 9/11 mantra: No DEW, no dustify, no nukes [no planes optional]

    Replies: @OmK

    You are a true genuine Idiot.
    Have you read the one in 933 above :
    ã€Mystery Solved ・・・】?
    Anyone who read that one realizes that some nukes were undoubtedly used in 9.11 inside job. ((other ones (usual bombs, thermite) were also used))

    •ï¿½Replies: @skrik
    @OmK


    You are a true genuine Idiot
    �
    s/he/it said, admiring him/her/itself in the mirror.

    Now; read my lips: *NO NUKES*!

    Replies: @OmK
  • Anonymous[171] •ï¿½Disclaimer says:

    Hello Ron,
    I am a frequent reader of The Unz Review, and strongly supportive of your work. I have learned a lot from reading articles in TUR. I would like to make a comment concerning the alleged “moon landings”, which is the ONLY issue where I disagree with your own assessment.

    I think that in this case you are placing the burden of proof on the wrong shoulders. It is the people who make extraordinary claims who should be pressed the hardest to provide proofs (examples: the claim that aliens from outer space are regularly visiting the Earth, or the claim that 6 million jews were put to death in gas chambers during WW2), not the people who take a sceptical attitude and doubt these claims. Clearly, the claim that a handful of people visited the moon in the years 1969-72 is extraordinary, given the level of technological knowledge in the 1960s, the poor track record (many failed launches) of the US space programme before the “moon landings”, the lack of protection of the astronauts against the high levels of radioactivity in the Van Allen belts, and the fact that in the last 54 years, no human being has been further away from the Earth than the ISS (400 kilometres).

    In truth, the proof that has been offered for the “moon landings” is almost as scant as for the other two examples mentioned above. The TV footage is far too blurry for anyone to be able to tell where it was shot (it is claimed to be a copy of an original which has mysteriously vanished). The still pictures are ridden with anomalies (for example, in some of them two sources of light are visible, where there should have been only one, the sun). Also, while it would be possible with today’s technology to use unmanned satellites to take detailed pictures of the alleged landing sites on the moon, showing the Lunar Modules if they are actually there, the US goverment has shown absolutely no interest in doing so, or even in allowing others to do so at their own expense.

    Furthermore, since the PR and goodwill generated by the alleged “moon landings” is enormous, it is clear that the US government had a very strong motive for faking them (in particular during a time period when the US received a lot of “bad will” from the Vietnam war, political murders, and civil unrest).

    I suggest that (when you have some time at your disposal, I understand that you are a busy man) you read some books that go through the alleged proofs of the “moon landings” in more detail. I suggest “One small step?” by Gerhard Wisniewski. You may also want to watch the movie “A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon” by journalist and filmmaker Bart Sibrel, and as a companion to that, the “memoir” of Bart Sibrel entitled “Moon Man”. Perhaps you will find that the “moon landings” is well deserving of a place in your “American Pravda” series.

    •ï¿½Replies: @littlereddot
    @Anonymous

    Unlike the Auschwitz Holocaust accusations, which I tested and found that the official narrative is rather wonky,

    I admit I have not tested out the issue of the moon landings so maintain an agnosticism whether it is true or not.

    But two (relatively) recent things raise my suspicions.

    1. After China announced that they were interested in visiting the moon, NASA suddenly scrambled to get their own Artemis moon mission. Maybe this was just to show "We still as strong and vibrant as we ever were". But maybe not.

    2. The recent announcement by a certain "international" organisation to preserve the symbolic historical importance of the first moon landing site, which would be at risk due to space tourism. This one smells fishy to me.
    https://www.rt.com/news/611028-moon-endangered-sites-list/

    Both these items may suggest that NASA wants to conceal something about the circa 1969 moon landing sites.

    In 1, place new equipment and footprints at the site to give plausible deniability "oh you can't find any evidence of the 1969 landing because we walked all over it already".

    In 2, keep away anyone who can verify that the 1969 landings did not take place "oh, we need to preserve this site, so you stay over there. The 1969 landings are real...trust me.".

    Again I stress I am no expert. But these recent incidents make me more suspicious.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Anonymous


    Clearly, the claim that a handful of people visited the moon in the years 1969-72 is extraordinary, given the level of technological knowledge in the 1960s, the poor track record (many failed launches) of the US space programme before the “moon landingsâ€, the lack of protection of the astronauts against the high levels of radioactivity in the Van Allen belts, and the fact that in the last 54 years, no human being has been further away from the Earth than the ISS (400 kilometres).
    �
    None of that is true. The level of technological knowledge - and more importantly, ability - as pertains to rocketry was about the same in the late 1960s, as it was in the early 2000's. The reason we didn't do anything more ambitious in the 2000's than in the 1960s was because the technology had not advanced much. And we didn't bother to do the same thing is because......why? Why replicate a stunt, the value of which lies primarily in being the first to do it. As I mentioned upthread, the deepest manned ocean descent - into the challenger deep of the Marianas Trench was only done in the early 1960s. And then was not done again for about another fifty years, in 2012. Does that mean that it never happened at all? Or that there just isn't much intrinsic reason to do it.

    There is no radioactivity in the Van Allen belts. There are energentic charged particles trapped on magnetic field lines. You get a dose going through them. You get a bigger dose lingering in them (which nobody wants to do). The faster you go through them, the less of a dose you get. And they didn't go through the densest parf of the Van Allen belts, owing to the relative orientation of the geomagnetic equator and the plane of the Moon's orbit.

    The TV footage is far too blurry for anyone to be able to tell where it was shot (it is claimed to be a copy of an original which has mysteriously vanished).
    �
    So, the original wouldn't have been much clearer, it was low-resolution video that was data-rate limited. And anyway, even if the original video-tape still existed, it might be well nigh unreadable just from age. You probably can't find the original of Euclid's Geometry in Ancient Greek. Does that mean that Geometry is false? And the movies and still pictures were quite clear and had very good resolution.

    The still pictures are ridden with anomalies (for example, in some of them two sources of light are visible, where there should have been only one, the sun).
    �
    No, that isn't true. Some pictures have shadows that have been interpreted as being from more than one light source. And there was more than one light source on the Moon's surface: the Sun, and Sunlight reflected off of other surfaces (the spacecraft, lunar surface).

    Also, while it would be possible with today’s technology to use unmanned satellites to take detailed pictures of the alleged landing sites on the moon, showing the Lunar Modules if they are actually there, the US goverment has shown absolutely no interest in doing so, or even in allowing others to do so at their own expense.
    �
    This was done, by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, and you lot just said it was faked. Why should NASA or any one else bother to take more pictures? Moon hoax believers would simply say that it was faked, no matter how good the imagery was. You're an audience that would never be placated? So why bother placating you? In any event, you're an audience that is irrelevant: nobody cares what you think.
  • I don’t make stuff up.

    No. You just regurgitate stuff that you have not digested.

    Did you see the video I attached about the debunking? They specifically said that when this report was written there have been no cases. But since then there have. And I showed you explicit videos of examples.

    I do not give a FF about 600C warmed up steel, because any such had *zero* effect on the pre-loaded explosives in WTCs 1, 2 & 7.

    For the UMPTEENTH time, our discussion is not about explosives. I have already told you that I believe that explosives were used to ENSURE the collapse of WTC.

    But that is not the issue at hand. The issue at hand is your insistence that steel framed buildings cannot fall due to fire.

    Have you asked your medical advisors about OCPD?

    I have no idea what that is. Obviously I was never recommended to take one.

    Again, you display your quick resort to childish insults rather than to stick to the point of the argument. Because you have no argument except “what somebody else said” = “I don’t make stuff up”.

    •ï¿½Replies: @skrik
    @littlereddot

    You clearly have a concentration/comprehension problem:

    but I’m not playing so @littlereddot gets his/her/its nickers in a twist
    �
  • skrik says:
    @littlereddot
    @skrik


    No. @littlereddot is pushing some agenda which does not impact the 9/11 ‘debate’
    �
    Huh? Discussing whether steel framed buildings CAN collapse vertically like WTC does not impact the debate?

    If you have any intelligence/wisdom at all, you would use what I have explained to you to REFINE your arguments.

    When you confidently spout silly statements like "steel framed buildings CANNOT collapse vertically in a fire" it only gives ammunition to Joe Public to laugh at us and dismiss us as conspiracy kooks.

    Do you have the courage and strength of character to say "thank you for your explanation", then Refine your arguments for future discussions? No, you stick to your guns and argue on ad nauseam because of butthurt.

    Thanks to people like you, no wonder Joe Public laughs at us.

    Replies: @skrik

    https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/faqs/649-faq-3-has-there-ever-been-a-total-collapse-of-a-steel-frame-fire-protected-high-rise-besides-world-trade-center-buildings-1-2-and-7

    FAQ #3: Has there ever been a total collapse of a steel-frame, fire-protected high-rise besides World Trade Center Buildings 1, 2, and 7?
    No. There has never been a total collapse of a steel-frame, fire-protected high-rise building other than the three World Trade Center high-rises on 9/11.
    There have, however, been partial collapses of steel-frame, fire-protected high-rise buildings around the world and a total collapse of a steel-frame high-rise building without fire protection in Iran — although AE911Truth has documented overwhelming evidence that the collapse of this building was caused by controlled demolition.
    There have also been partial and total collapses of hybrid steel/reinforced concrete-frame high-rise buildings without fire protection as well as partial and total collapses of reinforced concrete-frame buildings, which typically don’t have fire insulation. There has also been a total collapse of a concrete-frame building without steel reinforcement.
    Therefore, the Twin Towers and Building 7 stand alone as the only steel-frame, fire-protected high-rise buildings to experience total collapse ostensibly due to fire

    I don’t make stuff up.

    That quote was possibly before the general consensus = inside-job = explosive disassembly meaning it’s possibly now merely truther-history.

    I do not give a FF about 600C warmed up steel, because any such had *zero* effect on the pre-loaded explosives in WTCs 1, 2 & 7.

    Have you asked your medical advisors about OCPD?

    •ï¿½Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @skrik


    I don’t make stuff up.
    �
    No, you just peddle stuff you've read that somebody else made up.

    I do not give a FF about 600C warmed up steel, because any such had *zero* effect on the pre-loaded explosives in WTCs 1, 2 & 7.
    �
    There were no pre-loaded explosives. There is no evidence of such. And if fire can't bring down a steel-framed building, why do they bother to fireproof the steel?

    That quote was possibly before the general consensus = inside-job = explosive disassembly meaning it’s possibly now merely truther-history.
    �
    General consensus? Among whom? A dozen or so people on this thread? A few thousand people around the World who have yammered on about this for the last quarter century. There is no "general consensus" other than the official story - and a lot of that is down to people like you who have poisoned the well for any serious investigation of the reality of 9/11.

    And, in any event, an "inside job" does not require explosive disassembly. This is just a fetish of Truthers. It's part of their catecism. It is perfectly possible for there to have been a wider conspiracy behind 9/11, including the involvement of state actors - i.e. an "inside job", with the destruction of the towers and Pentagon happening essentially exactly as the NIST studies concluded. But you guys have blinded yourself to anything but your own little mystery cult. It's why you are inneffectual nobodies who have had no influence.

    Replies: @skrik
  • @skrik
    @Mr. Anon


    You’re raining all over their little gnostic mystery cult
    �
    No. @littlereddot is pushing some agenda which does not impact the 9/11 'debate' - which not so BTW has long been closed with the conclusion 'inside job'.

    With respect for this rational debate space, there's only so far one should go with OT topics, and IMHO @littlereddot has crossed an OT-red line - but I’m not playing so @littlereddot gets his/her/its nickers in a twist.

    Speaking of dishonest ‘activist/trolls’ it seems to me that this once proud rational debate space has been invaded by - ta ra! Dishonest ‘activist/trolls’ whose only function seems to be attempting to destroy rational debate. Bad trolls! Shame! - Ah, but dishonest ‘activist/trolls’ have no shame, which would most likely expose them as Kol Nidre types, eh?

    Replies: @littlereddot

    No. is pushing some agenda which does not impact the 9/11 ‘debate’

    Huh? Discussing whether steel framed buildings CAN collapse vertically like WTC does not impact the debate?

    If you have any intelligence/wisdom at all, you would use what I have explained to you to REFINE your arguments.

    When you confidently spout silly statements like “steel framed buildings CANNOT collapse vertically in a fire” it only gives ammunition to Joe Public to laugh at us and dismiss us as conspiracy kooks.

    Do you have the courage and strength of character to say “thank you for your explanation”, then Refine your arguments for future discussions? No, you stick to your guns and argue on ad nauseam because of butthurt.

    Thanks to people like you, no wonder Joe Public laughs at us.

    •ï¿½Replies: @skrik
    @littlereddot

    https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/faqs/649-faq-3-has-there-ever-been-a-total-collapse-of-a-steel-frame-fire-protected-high-rise-besides-world-trade-center-buildings-1-2-and-7

    FAQ #3: Has there ever been a total collapse of a steel-frame, fire-protected high-rise besides World Trade Center Buildings 1, 2, and 7?
    No. There has never been a total collapse of a steel-frame, fire-protected high-rise building other than the three World Trade Center high-rises on 9/11.
    There have, however, been partial collapses of steel-frame, fire-protected high-rise buildings around the world and a total collapse of a steel-frame high-rise building without fire protection in Iran — although AE911Truth has documented overwhelming evidence that the collapse of this building was caused by controlled demolition.
    There have also been partial and total collapses of hybrid steel/reinforced concrete-frame high-rise buildings without fire protection as well as partial and total collapses of reinforced concrete-frame buildings, which typically don’t have fire insulation. There has also been a total collapse of a concrete-frame building without steel reinforcement.
    Therefore, the Twin Towers and Building 7 stand alone as the only steel-frame, fire-protected high-rise buildings to experience total collapse ostensibly due to fire
    �
    I don't make stuff up.

    That quote was possibly before the general consensus = inside-job = explosive disassembly meaning it's possibly now merely truther-history.

    I do not give a FF about 600C warmed up steel, because any such had *zero* effect on the pre-loaded explosives in WTCs 1, 2 & 7.

    Have you asked your medical advisors about OCPD?

    Replies: @Mr. Anon
  • Rumble link Bitchute link FFWN link At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. Sachs is a highbrow policy advisor who used to make top-100-most-important-people-in-the-world lists, but has lost his Establishment position after trumpeting unspeakable truths. Trump, for his part, is a middlebrow-at-best showman with a genius for mixing unspeakable...
  • @Trinity
    @Kevin Barrett

    There are 11-12 year olds in foreign countries that know Israel was responsible for 9-11 and that Jews control the West. There is absolutely no excuse for an American adult to believe that (((bullshit official narrative about 9-11))) today. Either it is willful ignorance, laziness or cowardice for people not to identify the real (((culprits))) behind the attacks on 9-11.

    Replies: @DanFromCT

    How can you say that? Only anti-science cranks disbelieve the official narratives about the Kennedy assassinations, USS Liberty, or about 9/11 that nineteen Arabs who couldn’t taxi a Cessna 150 trainer with a flight instructor sitting next to them one day couldn’t magically on the next day take over and fly jetliners hundreds of miles into bulls-eye targets using maneuvers, in the case of the Pentagon, that seasoned airline pilots with thousands of hours in the air say they couldn’t duplicate in a lifetime.

    Only a stupid conspiracy theorist would doubt that the laws of physics won’t be suspended when it’s for Israel’s benefit, of skyscrapers falling at free-fall speed into their own footprint, or that jet fuel fires can’t magically keep burning for months in the depths of the Twin Towers’ sub-basements and stay hot enough to keep steel molten. And, please don’t claim that just because there was zero crash debris that a jetliner didn’t slam into the Pentagon or disappear without a trace into a small hole in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, OK? Skyscrapers collapsing into their own footprint from small fires happens all the time.

    Remember what they say on Wall Street about investments, that past performance is no guarantee of future results. In other words, just because the government has always lied in the past doesn’t mean it’s not telling the truth this time around

    •ï¿½Replies: @ariadna
    @DanFromCT

    excellent comment
    , @anarchyst
    @DanFromCT

    Speaking of Wall Street...

    For about a week before the destruction of the WTC, certain stocks seemed to have more strange activity than usual.

    Jewish manipulation because of "prior knowledge" of 9-11?

    Replies: @DanFromCT
  • @Bruce Arney
    Sadly there are many "deep dark son-of bitches" out there. Hopefully some of them will be outed for what they are in the near future, as correctly identifying the enemy is always the very first order of war. The fact that Netanyahu got 50 standing ovations for holocausting Gaza speaks volumes about our own government.

    Replies: @lavoisier

    Identifying the enemy has to include not only the Jews, but also the myriad venal and treacherous Gentile sell outs who do their bidding. Hence the standing ovations you reference. The entire US Congress with few exceptions belong in prison for their treachery..

    •ï¿½Agree: Trinity
  • @sarz
    Let me chuck in here a short correspondence with Kevin about this piece before it was reprinted at UR.

    On Jan 13, 2025, at 5:30 AM, [sarz] wrote:

    Dear Kevin,

    A reminder of what I established some time back. Trump is clearly a 9/11 accessory after the fact.

    Enver Masud at Wisdom Fund put up the two Trump videos here. You can see for yourself.

    https://www.twf.org/News/Y2011/0911-Muslims.html

    On the very evening of 9/11, Trump a builder and a showoff, called a NY local TV channel and spelled out on air that the way you had a light aluminum tube that is an airliner going into a massively solid steel structure that was each of the WTC towers, there had to have been bombs involved.

    The guy was just showing off his intelligence. 9/11 was on a need-to-know basis, and Trump was out of the loop. One of his insider criminal friends such as Giuliani or Silverstein must have clued him in. He had just blown the hijacker theory out of the water. No hijackers could have bombed the buildings. So no hijackers.

    Immediate damage control was required. A day and a night later, Trump was live on Deutsche Welle TV, on site, talking about how the jet fuel (kerosene) fire in a building weakened by the plane strike had brought down a steel structure, and one expressly designed to withstand plane strikes. Builder Trump would of course know that before and since no fire had or has brought down a steel structure. But it wasn't just the plane strike and jet fuel fire. It was those factors plus "hatred". See, he worked in the hijackers. It's a bit awkward but he got it in.

    Complete change of story! See the two videos. Why?

    There is no explanation except accesory after the fact.

    By the way, Trump is a crypto-Jew, in the tradition of his KKK dad. Something elder brother Freddy - not the dad's favorite - refused to go along with. So in the mid-50s he came out as a Jew by joining SAM, the Jewish fraternity, at Lehigh. He was eventually president of the chapter. You couldn't do that without being a Jew.

    9/11 was a Jew op. (See Chris Bollyn's Solving 9/11.) Both insider-Jews, Sachs and Trump, knew that, either before or just after the fact. 9/11 does not give 9/11 accessory-after-the-fact Trump much leverage over Bibi.

    Best wishes,
    [sarz]

    �

    On Mon, 13 Jan 2025, 3:20 pm Kevin Barrett, wrote:
    Thank you, [sarz]. I wonder whether Trump was tipped off, or whether he figured out the official story by osmosis.

    Feel free to post this excellent comment at https://kevinbarrett.substack.com/p/do-donald-trump-and-jeffrey-sachs .
    �

    Hello Kevin. That never occurred to me but seeing stuff like Ehud Barak on BBC announcing it was Osama bin Laden could have clued Trump in. If he had a suspicion, I think he would have checked it out with obvious people like Giuliani and Silverstein before setting up the Deutsche Welle interview.
    �

    Replies: @Kevin Barrett

    Trump has an uncanny ability to sense which way the wind is blowing and turn it to his advantage. That’s one reason his success has outpaced his intelligence. I’m sure he, like so many others, quickly understood what the official story would be, and the likely consequences of challenging it.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Rev. Spooner
    @Kevin Barrett

    Hello Mr Barret, miss you on UNZ, how are you doing?
    Let me know where I can find you. God bless and stay safe.
  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • @OmK
    It seems that the following one is most important on 9.11 incident :

    ã€Mystery Solved :
    The WTC was Nuked on 9/11】
    ï¼ Alternative

    🔶 https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/05/mystery-solved-the-wtc-was-nuked-on-911-2635484.html

    It seems that in this comments section no one has not yet mentioned on this matter.

    Neutron bomb might have been set at basement.

    And also other bombs and Thermite would have been used at upper floors.

    9.11 incident was meticulously planned one. Computer simulation was perhaps done taking into consideration of the strength of each part of the buildings.

    Upper floor explosion was nesesary.
    Because it was under supposition of aircraft crash, when it never happened.

    If lower floors are blown away, building will free fall by its own weight and be destroyed.

    Replies: @skrik

    the-wtc-was-nuked-on-911

    No; nukes were considered long and hard; here is one of my contributions:

    https://www.unz.com/article/did-the-plowshares-program-set-the-stage-for-nuclear-terrorism-on-september-11/?showcomments#comment-6185195

    My 9/11 mantra: No DEW, no dustify, no nukes [no planes optional]

    •ï¿½Replies: @OmK
    @skrik

    You are a true genuine Idiot.
    Have you read the one in 933 above :
    ã€Mystery Solved ・・・】?
    Anyone who read that one realizes that some nukes were undoubtedly used in 9.11 inside job. ((other ones (usual bombs, thermite) were also used))

    Replies: @skrik
  • @notanonymousHere
    @notbe mk 2

    It cute that you think there's a fallout shelter at a test site. Los Alamos contradicts you on get-togethers.

    Replies: @notbe mk 2

    fallout shelter…bunker…whatever…if you want to be technical about it: basically some sort of an architectural edifice where brainiacs and the top brass could peer out of a concrete slit and gawk at a test of a runaway atomic chain reaction using welder goggles. If you bomb that you’ll set back any country’s a-bomb program for a generation or so.

    Yeah whatever, they had big get-togethers at Los Alamos whoopeedoo-but even so the scientists there were guarded by a huge force of soldiers precisely to prevent assassinations or kidnappings with the commies in their respective atom bomb programs even more paranoid about this threat.

  • skrik says:
    @Mr. Anon
    @littlereddot

    You bring up actual facts and make points informed by some actual knowledge of engineering, and commenter "skrik" can only reply:

    Debunkers are the reverse of the truthers’ coin; more often than not dishonest ‘activist/trolls’ [often hiding behind a [lying?] ‘respectful’ assertion, say] whilst attempting to disturb honest truth-seeking.
    �
    You disagree with him and are informed, and therefore must be a dishonest troll. It's like that with all these guys. You're raining all over their little gnostic mystery cult and it makes them angry.

    Replies: @littlereddot, @skrik

    You’re raining all over their little gnostic mystery cult

    No. @littlereddot is pushing some agenda which does not impact the 9/11 ‘debate’ – which not so BTW has long been closed with the conclusion ‘inside job’.

    With respect for this rational debate space, there’s only so far one should go with OT topics, and IMHO @littlereddot has crossed an OT-red line – but I’m not playing so @littlereddot gets his/her/its nickers in a twist.

    Speaking of dishonest ‘activist/trolls’ it seems to me that this once proud rational debate space has been invaded by – ta ra! Dishonest ‘activist/trolls’ whose only function seems to be attempting to destroy rational debate. Bad trolls! Shame! – Ah, but dishonest ‘activist/trolls’ have no shame, which would most likely expose them as Kol Nidre types, eh?

    •ï¿½Replies: @littlereddot
    @skrik


    No. @littlereddot is pushing some agenda which does not impact the 9/11 ‘debate’
    �
    Huh? Discussing whether steel framed buildings CAN collapse vertically like WTC does not impact the debate?

    If you have any intelligence/wisdom at all, you would use what I have explained to you to REFINE your arguments.

    When you confidently spout silly statements like "steel framed buildings CANNOT collapse vertically in a fire" it only gives ammunition to Joe Public to laugh at us and dismiss us as conspiracy kooks.

    Do you have the courage and strength of character to say "thank you for your explanation", then Refine your arguments for future discussions? No, you stick to your guns and argue on ad nauseam because of butthurt.

    Thanks to people like you, no wonder Joe Public laughs at us.

    Replies: @skrik
  • @Mr. Anon
    @littlereddot

    You bring up actual facts and make points informed by some actual knowledge of engineering, and commenter "skrik" can only reply:

    Debunkers are the reverse of the truthers’ coin; more often than not dishonest ‘activist/trolls’ [often hiding behind a [lying?] ‘respectful’ assertion, say] whilst attempting to disturb honest truth-seeking.
    �
    You disagree with him and are informed, and therefore must be a dishonest troll. It's like that with all these guys. You're raining all over their little gnostic mystery cult and it makes them angry.

    Replies: @littlereddot, @skrik

    LOL thanks.

    You’re raining all over their little gnostic mystery cult

    But comparing Skrik to the Gnostics would be insulting the Gnostics way too much. I kinda like their Gospel of Thomas 🙂

    Skrik, on the other hand, is just a puffed up know-it-all.

  • Rumble link Bitchute link FFWN link At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. Sachs is a highbrow policy advisor who used to make top-100-most-important-people-in-the-world lists, but has lost his Establishment position after trumpeting unspeakable truths. Trump, for his part, is a middlebrow-at-best showman with a genius for mixing unspeakable...
  • @Trinity
    @Palmm

    The Sampson Option is another Jewish lie. Even IF it were true Israel would be committing suicide.

    Replies: @NoBodyImportant

    And how do you know it’s a lie? They’ve already used shit that looked like Nukes in Syria.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Trinity
    @NoBodyImportant

    You can tell a kike is lying when you see their lips moving. The kike lies like a rug.(((They))) are the original and therefore the kangz of Dindu Nuffins.
  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • @littlereddot
    @skrik

    You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Just look at the excerpt from your own quote:

    is significant in that fire-related collapse of structures is rare, with collapse of reinforced concrete structures even more so.†Steel-reinforced concrete buildings are even MORE resistant to fire than steel framed buildings, but buildings can collapse in fires, regardless of materials
    �
    Steel Reinforced (RC) buildings are MORE RESISTANT than steel framed buildings. Yet it can collapse due to fire as per the Delft building.

    The WTC was Steel Framed, NOT Steel Reinforced (RC)....and was more liable to fail under fire conditions. Same goes for the Sao Paolo building.

    I suggest you speak to a real structural engineer or architect, before you make more of a fool of yourself.

    And no, quoting all sorts of other stuff to obfuscate does not win you the argument.

    We are talking about whether or not a steel building can fail under fire conditions. Not whether a bomb was used or not.

    Please try to focus.

    IMHO you are a trouble-maker looking for a fight;
    �
    You were the one who started with the derision and insults.

    If you dish it out, you better be able to take it.

    Don't go wimping out on me now. We have only just begun.

    Replies: @skrik, @Mr. Anon

    You bring up actual facts and make points informed by some actual knowledge of engineering, and commenter “skrik” can only reply:

    Debunkers are the reverse of the truthers’ coin; more often than not dishonest ‘activist/trolls’ [often hiding behind a [lying?] ‘respectful’ assertion, say] whilst attempting to disturb honest truth-seeking.

    You disagree with him and are informed, and therefore must be a dishonest troll. It’s like that with all these guys. You’re raining all over their little gnostic mystery cult and it makes them angry.

    •ï¿½Replies: @littlereddot
    @Mr. Anon

    LOL thanks.

    You’re raining all over their little gnostic mystery cult
    �
    But comparing Skrik to the Gnostics would be insulting the Gnostics way too much. I kinda like their Gospel of Thomas :)

    Skrik, on the other hand, is just a puffed up know-it-all.
    , @skrik
    @Mr. Anon


    You’re raining all over their little gnostic mystery cult
    �
    No. @littlereddot is pushing some agenda which does not impact the 9/11 'debate' - which not so BTW has long been closed with the conclusion 'inside job'.

    With respect for this rational debate space, there's only so far one should go with OT topics, and IMHO @littlereddot has crossed an OT-red line - but I’m not playing so @littlereddot gets his/her/its nickers in a twist.

    Speaking of dishonest ‘activist/trolls’ it seems to me that this once proud rational debate space has been invaded by - ta ra! Dishonest ‘activist/trolls’ whose only function seems to be attempting to destroy rational debate. Bad trolls! Shame! - Ah, but dishonest ‘activist/trolls’ have no shame, which would most likely expose them as Kol Nidre types, eh?

    Replies: @littlereddot
  • Rumble link Bitchute link FFWN link At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. Sachs is a highbrow policy advisor who used to make top-100-most-important-people-in-the-world lists, but has lost his Establishment position after trumpeting unspeakable truths. Trump, for his part, is a middlebrow-at-best showman with a genius for mixing unspeakable...
  • @Patricio
    A very good analysis of the lies and chicanery of US politicians over the past 30 years. With regards to Netanyahu, one is dealing with a genocidal gangster, and Trump should treat him as such rather than a partner that he can trust to bring peace to the ME. Unfortunately, for every honorable Jew like Sachs or Finklestein, there are hundreds of AIPAC, Christain zionists, and zionist apologists in DC and the MSM who sway public opinion and paint a false picture of a 'besieged Israel'. Ultimately, Israel is nothing without US weapons and intelligence, and it is there where Trump has the leverage. Will he use it to his advantage, or will he allow himself to be another DC asset to further the goal of Greater Israel and allow evil Bibi to drag us into a disastrous war with Iran?

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    If you think back to 2016 and the refrain of candidate Trump,

    the system is rigged

    maybe you won’t be so harsh on what is about to happen. Indeed it is rigged and there is a narrow range of limits on what he could do even in an unlikely phase of Linus Great Pumpkin sincerity.

  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • Correction :
    no one has not yet mentioned
    ⇒
    no one has yet mentioned

  • OmK says:

    It seems that the following one is most important on 9.11 incident :

    ã€Mystery Solved :
    The WTC was Nuked on 9/11】
    ï¼ Alternative

    🔶 https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/05/mystery-solved-the-wtc-was-nuked-on-911-2635484.html

    It seems that in this comments section no one has not yet mentioned on this matter.

    Neutron bomb might have been set at basement.

    And also other bombs and Thermite would have been used at upper floors.

    9.11 incident was meticulously planned one. Computer simulation was perhaps done taking into consideration of the strength of each part of the buildings.

    Upper floor explosion was nesesary.
    Because it was under supposition of aircraft crash, when it never happened.

    If lower floors are blown away, building will free fall by its own weight and be destroyed.

    •ï¿½Replies: @skrik
    @OmK


    the-wtc-was-nuked-on-911
    �
    No; nukes were considered long and hard; here is one of my contributions:

    https://www.unz.com/article/did-the-plowshares-program-set-the-stage-for-nuclear-terrorism-on-september-11/?showcomments#comment-6185195

    My 9/11 mantra: No DEW, no dustify, no nukes [no planes optional]

    Replies: @OmK
  • @skrik
    @littlereddot

    What you are trying to assert has little to no relevance to WTCs 1, 2 & 7.

    Who could care IF a steel building can fail under fire? THEN what?

    WTCs 1, 2 & 7 did *not* collapse due to fire, finito.

    Tell it to your grandmother [she might trust you].

    Try getting lost; you've worn out your welcome - with silliness to boot.

    Replies: @littlereddot

    What you are trying to assert has little to no relevance to WTCs 1, 2 & 7.

    Why bother to talk about these other buildings if we have not even established that
    Steel buildings CAN collapse vertically in fire?

    You are like trying to do calculus before you are able to add 2 and 2 together.

    This is why you are confused.

    So go on, tell me if steel framed buildings can collapse vertically under fire.
    Maybe after that, we can discuss whatever else you wish.

  • Rumble link Bitchute link FFWN link At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. Sachs is a highbrow policy advisor who used to make top-100-most-important-people-in-the-world lists, but has lost his Establishment position after trumpeting unspeakable truths. Trump, for his part, is a middlebrow-at-best showman with a genius for mixing unspeakable...
  • @Bruce Arney
    @Biff

    Maybe "they" made him an offer he couldn't refuse, just as Don Corelone told Johnny Fontaine?
    Chuck Schumer told Trump early in his first term, "They have a dozen ways to get to you before Sunday"

    Replies: @emil nikola richard

    With exploding pagers and the like the number of different ways has gone up a fair bit.

  • Decades ago I became fully convinced that UFOs were real. I even accepted that past visits to our planet of such space aliens had been the basis for many of the religious myths of different societies all around the world, just as Erich von Däniken had argued in his massive 1971 bestseller Chariots of the...
  • @skrik
    @OmK

    You neglected to say that you think that Einstein = god. haw

    Not only that, but you seem to have ignored my input, namely that when Einstein mentioned ether in 1920, he was not being exactly '100% honest'; he was [reportedly] only speaking 'loosely':

    he was using the term metaphorically
    �
    Check my quote.

    Further, I gave you a link to 'zero-point energy':

    These fluctuating zero-point fields lead to a kind of reintroduction of an aether in physics
    �
    It's not nice to ignore inputs but I suspect that you are acting a bit like a cocker-spaniel on the search for a turtle: Head down and charge ahead, regardless of externals - like my inputs, say.

    Tip: Help us out a bit; kindly specify *exactly* what you are ‘pushing’ and why; how are you trying to ‘change the world’?

    Einstein and Feynman are sleeping easily, their legacies secure.

    Replies: @OmK

    Idiot.
    You are a master of distraction.

    Do you oppose einstein’s
    1920 assertion of that
    “Aether’s existence is inevitable ”
    ?
    Are you an ex lawyer ?
    You are merely a silver-tongued.

  • Rumble link Bitchute link FFWN link At first glance, Jeffrey Sachs and Donald Trump don’t have much in common. Sachs is a highbrow policy advisor who used to make top-100-most-important-people-in-the-world lists, but has lost his Establishment position after trumpeting unspeakable truths. Trump, for his part, is a middlebrow-at-best showman with a genius for mixing unspeakable...
  • @Kevin Barrett
    @muh muh

    Nearly half the world’s adults hold antisemitic views, and the other half isn't paying attention.

    Replies: @Trinity

    There are 11-12 year olds in foreign countries that know Israel was responsible for 9-11 and that Jews control the West. There is absolutely no excuse for an American adult to believe that (((bullshit official narrative about 9-11))) today. Either it is willful ignorance, laziness or cowardice for people not to identify the real (((culprits))) behind the attacks on 9-11.

    •ï¿½Replies: @DanFromCT
    @Trinity

    How can you say that? Only anti-science cranks disbelieve the official narratives about the Kennedy assassinations, USS Liberty, or about 9/11 that nineteen Arabs who couldn’t taxi a Cessna 150 trainer with a flight instructor sitting next to them one day couldn’t magically on the next day take over and fly jetliners hundreds of miles into bulls-eye targets using maneuvers, in the case of the Pentagon, that seasoned airline pilots with thousands of hours in the air say they couldn’t duplicate in a lifetime.

    Only a stupid conspiracy theorist would doubt that the laws of physics won’t be suspended when it’s for Israel’s benefit, of skyscrapers falling at free-fall speed into their own footprint, or that jet fuel fires can’t magically keep burning for months in the depths of the Twin Towers’ sub-basements and stay hot enough to keep steel molten. And, please don’t claim that just because there was zero crash debris that a jetliner didn’t slam into the Pentagon or disappear without a trace into a small hole in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, OK? Skyscrapers collapsing into their own footprint from small fires happens all the time.

    Remember what they say on Wall Street about investments, that past performance is no guarantee of future results. In other words, just because the government has always lied in the past doesn’t mean it’s not telling the truth this time around

    Replies: @ariadna, @anarchyst
  • @Palmm
    @Tucker

    "Jews pay people off, and they go away." IMO, 9/11 was another "green flag," like October 7. They never do it without plausible deniability.
    Even if Trump and his allies were to try, it wouldn't be direct. There is no way to reliably know until after the fact. People have pointed out clues over the ambiguous relationship between Trump and Netanyahu. "Who cares what they say, it's what they DO!" Do not discount the Samson option.

    Replies: @Trinity

    The Sampson Option is another Jewish lie. Even IF it were true Israel would be committing suicide.

    •ï¿½Replies: @NoBodyImportant
    @Trinity

    And how do you know it's a lie? They've already used shit that looked like Nukes in Syria.

    Replies: @Trinity