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�⇅All / By Morris V. de Camp
    A Nation on Fire: America in the Wake of the King Assassination Clay Risen Hoboken, N.J.: John Wiley & Sons, 2009 Since becoming a Counter-Currents writer, I’ve come to see that the mainstream historical narrative of the 1960s is unique in how incorrect the conventional understanding of it is. What I mean by backwards is...
  • @JackOH
    @Counterinsurgency

    Counter---, thanks, and I'm sort of half-inclined to agree with the five points in your #6 comment above. I have plenty of anecdotes and observations that sort of attest to White elites caving in to the folk philosophy of Black Supremacism.

    I also believe the legacy of the 1960s Black rioting and fear of its renewal is that any practical examination of civil rights laws, affirmative action, fair housing, and what have you---no matter the damage caused by those laws to innocents---is off the table. By practical examination, I mean a disinterested study of the actual behavioral consequences of laws meant to help Black folks.

    I did just that before thinking about emigrating from the States, and I was truly horrified that the evidence was that affirmative action, the gamed version favoring White women, had indeed hurt my career prospects. (BTW--I stayed in the States---not enough savings for the move I wanted.)

    Replies: @PV van der Byl, @95Theses

    Three cheers for customary discrimination!

  • What a difference just two generations can make; riots of the sort described here used to go the other way around, you know:

    https://www.amren.com/news/2019/02/negrophobia-race-riots-in-america-mark-bauerlein/

  • @Bookish1
    The real America ended in 1945

    Replies: @Desert Fox, @Gentle Hysteric

    The real America ended in 1945

    Ha! The year I was born. No connection, I trust.

    The first 15 years of my life, America was at its best. Far from perfect, but still a country one could be proud to be a citizen of.

    I miss it. Now, despite having a U.S. passport, I have no country.

  • @Vinnie O
    I bought a (used) copy of "A Nation on Fire" based on your glowing praise. Ye gods!!! It's absolute irretrievable CRAP. The guy can't write to save his soul, has a number of strange ideas about writing in the English language, and has ABSOLUTELY NO FRIGGIN' IDEA about how the US Government, and most especially DoD, are organized and supposedly work.

    There is some TEENY section (as poorly written as the later stuff) at the beginning of the book where the author simply can't find enough nice things about ML King. He does suggest that King was kinda tired and had lost some focus. But, NO, absolutely NO ONE should bother reading "A Nation on Fire" to find out what was going on in the USA in 1968. ANY other book will be a better choice.

    Besides largely ignoring King (King dies REALLY early in the book), bozo can't find enough NICE things to say about LBJ. LBJ was DEEPLY involved in the murder of JFK, cheated in EVERY SINGLE ELECTION he was EVER involved in, and declined to run for re-election in 1968 because it was obvious to even a man as STUPID as Johnson that he didn't have the, how you say, "snowball's chance in Hell" of winning. That is, he didn't want to be EMBARRASSED in public.

    "A Nation on Fire" has managed to make it into the VERY small group of books that I will PERSONALLY toss into the county landfill to prevent some poor innocent from reading it.

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    That’s really bad news, because I bought a new copy of the book, based on this review.

  • I bought a (used) copy of “A Nation on Fire” based on your glowing praise. Ye gods!!! It’s absolute irretrievable CRAP. The guy can’t write to save his soul, has a number of strange ideas about writing in the English language, and has ABSOLUTELY NO FRIGGIN’ IDEA about how the US Government, and most especially DoD, are organized and supposedly work.

    There is some TEENY section (as poorly written as the later stuff) at the beginning of the book where the author simply can’t find enough nice things about ML King. He does suggest that King was kinda tired and had lost some focus. But, NO, absolutely NO ONE should bother reading “A Nation on Fire” to find out what was going on in the USA in 1968. ANY other book will be a better choice.

    Besides largely ignoring King (King dies REALLY early in the book), bozo can’t find enough NICE things to say about LBJ. LBJ was DEEPLY involved in the murder of JFK, cheated in EVERY SINGLE ELECTION he was EVER involved in, and declined to run for re-election in 1968 because it was obvious to even a man as STUPID as Johnson that he didn’t have the, how you say, “snowball’s chance in Hell” of winning. That is, he didn’t want to be EMBARRASSED in public.

    “A Nation on Fire” has managed to make it into the VERY small group of books that I will PERSONALLY toss into the county landfill to prevent some poor innocent from reading it.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @Vinnie O

    That's really bad news, because I bought a new copy of the book, based on this review.
  • @EliteCommInc.
    I would deconstruct the black anger issue. But instead of allowing the matter at hand to be further cluttered, let's just admit that blacks regardless of their supposed anger are short in the pole of engaging in color warfare (war against whites 0 in the scale or magnitude as that of whites in the opposite direction.

    One of the tools of white warfare of course has been to gin up the numbers and the a priori assumptions about blacks as excuse for police misbehavior in the name of law and order. And it is accurate that an increasing number of blacks began to engage in more direct confrontation to those tactics - hence the term "black militant".

    even here the number of supposed intelligent commenters defend violations against blacks by whites for something as innocuous as making passes at white women, a common variant of the black rapist mystique.


    1968 is a watershed moment for whites because behaviors refrained by blacks, even the "good blacks" regarding police behavior were captured live on screen. But until technology loaded up everyone's phones with cameras and hand held cameras hit main street such as the case with Rodney King, whites could dismiss blacks as suffering from mental illness en masse. Sadly, they have evidence that the police lie about whites they encounter.

    I am not condoning riots. But clearly, the riots were not acts of war against whites. Instead they reflect a level of frustration that is self reflected and self directed.

    --------------------------------------

    It is akin to the contend that there was a war on police and by supposition that war was being conducted by militant blacks ---

    hysterical nonsense based on the numbers of police deaths by homicide committed by others.

    Replies: @Counterinsurgency

    the riots were not acts of war against whites. Instead they reflect a level of frustration that is self reflected and self directed.

    The Black population is about 50% unable to work productively in an industrial society (that’s those with IQ below the mid 80s). Of course they are “frustrated”. So what? Do we destroy European society because the Black population can’t tolerate it? Do we abolish Black society because it is making industrialization uneconomic by diverting necessary capital investments to immediate consumption? Do we compromise and, if so, what is the compromise? Supporting the Blacks in their own neighborhoods has proven a disaster for all concerned, so what’s both better and feasible? Nobody knows, not you, not me, not anybody.

    As it is, we’re headed for a HAL solution right out of 2001. “I propose that we replace the module, and let it fail. The cause of the failure will then be evident.”

    Counterinsurgency

  • @EliteCommInc.
    "Lived it in real time. That’s how I know what I say is true."

    I am not sure what you lived. But it has little or nothing to do with the article. Race war really intended as color war paints a very specific scenario. In this instance blacks making war on whites and the article uses the riots as the key artifact. But the riots of the 1960's by black citizens did involve blacks attacking whites by entering white neighborhoods. The anatomy of those riots have been well cataloged and as I say, whites did experience violence. But it simply does not rise to warfare. And when compared to whites rioting the 1960's were more centered. That is not the case for whites engaged in rioting. They targeted blacks en masse.

    Not the same thing at all. And none of that contradicts your personal experience --- but your personal experience does not rise to the level of the riots in question.

    Keep your kindness, unnecessary and totally irrelevant. There has been no war against whites or even the police for that matter.

    Replies: @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    ANTI-WHITE Jew fiction is all you’re spouting.

    What I’ve written is accurate nation wide as well as of personal experience.

    What you’ve written is totally inaccurate thus propaganda so far removed from the reality of those times you probably hadn’t even been born yet you claim superior knowledge.

    “A person with a theory is always trumped by a person with experience” as the old saying goes which you reinforce with your nonsense.

    If you’re not jew you’re their golem aiding in their #jew$4whiteGENOCIDE initiative.

  • @RadicalCenter
    @Anon

    If you know how the language groups relate to each other, Tovarish ;) then you’ll know that German is NOT especially difficult for a reasonably bright native speaker of English.

    Mandarin, yes, extremely difficult not just for Yankees but for you too. But not difficult when they learn as small children, as our children are. Plus my white/Asian children appear to be well above average in intelligence, LOL.

    As for Russian, it is typically ranked as harder for English-speakers to learn than the Romance languages (easiest) and Germanic languages (next easiest), but not as hard as Asian languages such as Mandarin, Cantonese, and Japanese.

    As for the status of English around the world, that doesn’t change the fact that it is being pushed aside by Spanish on our territory in the USA. Anyone sensible and proud SHOULD be “insecure†and angry about that. I can see English remaining the international common language for quite some time while Spanish — and ignorant, low-quality, very limited-vocabulary English — supplant actual English here in the USA. It should be easy for you to understand how this would be a negative development for us here, and perceived by us as such.

    As for Spanish being the first in the New World, you are presumably ignoring the Indian tribes and the Swedish explorers. Strange, because I mentioned that in my comment to you. Ignoring an argument or evidence doesn’t casually rebut it, you know.

    You also seem to have ignored my comment about the negligible presence of the brutal Spanish and savage Indians alike over this vast land mass.

    I tried hard to be accommodating and diplomatic, and emphasize areas of likely agreement. Please try not to simply repeat what you wrote before without addressing criticism and refinements.

    You should also know, and maybe do know, that Yankee/Yanqui has long been used in a derisive and resentful way against Americans, especially white Americans, and the USA. It’s not alright for you to be a wiseass and continue calling me that while pretending to be interested in a civilized discussion..... Also, Genosse, when you make comments about “Yankeesâ€, I wonder why you are always leaving out the Red Sox, the Mets, and the other teams,

    What country are you from, then? Then the fun can begin. What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander. (You seem to know a lot of English — you know, the language that I shouldn’t care about weakening and disappearing from my Balkanizing country so long as some simplified bastardized form is used by foreigners abroad — I’m sure you’ll understand the goose-gander expression.)

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix

    I don’t know about her difficulty, relative to other tongues, but a very well-kept secret is that German is a beautiful language. She was my first love in West Germany.

  • @USA 1943
    @anarchyst

    If Whites and Asians did NOT fight back when attacked THEY DESERVE TO GET BEAT UP, Everyone has 2 arms, legs etc. you hit them right they will get knocked out, Humans are Animals and in the Animal World the strong ALWAYS prey on the weak, My observation in schools was bullies would pick on a kid, if the kid did not fight back the bullies would keep picking on him, if the kid fought back, the bullies would leave him alone. As for the pack/not fighting one on one thing there are more whites so if a white kid got attacked by 3, he could get 5 to help him if they get 10 he should get 20, A MAJOR PART of what made America great was we conquered EVERYONE we fought, That was before Korea and Vietnam where we DID NOT fight to win, but fought politically and even though we still kicked rear on the battlefield we lost politically (Korea was a draw), we need to get back to FIGHTING TO WIN, if they start a fight BEAT THEIR REAR, If they fight as a group, get a group or a weapon and take the fight to them, attack them at their home, in their grocery store wherever, make them wish they never started a fight with you, go after their family, Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, Grand Father, Grand Mother, their friends, Make them live in constant fear, but ONLY if they ATTACK YOU FIRST, If you attack them FIRST than you are the bad person, Demand the Politicians make it a death penalty offense if 2 or more attack one person, if they don't, do it yourself, but I REPEAT only if they attack you first. If you are given A FAIR One on One fight and you lose DO NONE OF WHAT I SAID ABOVE, Just shake his hand and say you won fair and square and move on, It is OVER, Don't hold a grudge, but give everything you have during the fight.

    Replies: @anarchyst, @HallParvey

    Jesus commanded that we all turn the other cheek. A billion and a half Christians believe that a person should not fight. It would be wrong and sinful.

    See the problem?

  • @anarchyst
    @ThreeCranes

    It was just as bad in the 1960s. In fact, Detroit’s Northeastern High School had a “black students union†that was successful in getting the American flag removed from the front of the school and replacing it with a “black nationalist†flag.
    The ordeal that white students had to go through was harrowing, to say the least. White students did not use the restrooms, as a “beatdown†by multiple blacks was usually the result. Blacks never fought one-on-one, the “pack mentality†was evident then as is today.
    Blacks did not want to learn, the same situation that still exists today. Teachers were deferential to blacks, although there were a few teachers who tried to carefully shield their white and asian students from predatory blacks, giving them additional attention and coursework, knowing that they could excel in spite of the, violent, raucous atmosphere.
    Anywhere blacks go, they destroy…

    Replies: @USA 1943, @HallParvey

    Confederate revenge.

  • If I had a son who was attacked and the School Administrators took the side of his attackers, The school administrators would be having funerals in a day or 2 (As would his attackers), Yes I would likely go to jail, but I would go down for my son.

    •ï¿½Agree: buckwheat
  • @USA 1943
    @anarchyst

    If Whites and Asians did NOT fight back when attacked THEY DESERVE TO GET BEAT UP, Everyone has 2 arms, legs etc. you hit them right they will get knocked out, Humans are Animals and in the Animal World the strong ALWAYS prey on the weak, My observation in schools was bullies would pick on a kid, if the kid did not fight back the bullies would keep picking on him, if the kid fought back, the bullies would leave him alone. As for the pack/not fighting one on one thing there are more whites so if a white kid got attacked by 3, he could get 5 to help him if they get 10 he should get 20, A MAJOR PART of what made America great was we conquered EVERYONE we fought, That was before Korea and Vietnam where we DID NOT fight to win, but fought politically and even though we still kicked rear on the battlefield we lost politically (Korea was a draw), we need to get back to FIGHTING TO WIN, if they start a fight BEAT THEIR REAR, If they fight as a group, get a group or a weapon and take the fight to them, attack them at their home, in their grocery store wherever, make them wish they never started a fight with you, go after their family, Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, Grand Father, Grand Mother, their friends, Make them live in constant fear, but ONLY if they ATTACK YOU FIRST, If you attack them FIRST than you are the bad person, Demand the Politicians make it a death penalty offense if 2 or more attack one person, if they don't, do it yourself, but I REPEAT only if they attack you first. If you are given A FAIR One on One fight and you lose DO NONE OF WHAT I SAID ABOVE, Just shake his hand and say you won fair and square and move on, It is OVER, Don't hold a grudge, but give everything you have during the fight.

    Replies: @anarchyst, @HallParvey

    I partially agree with you, but it is apparent that you did not understand the situation growing up in those times.
    You would have to had experienced the feral behavior of blacks, which continues to this day. Violent tendencies are a part of black culture, PERIOD. Blacks were protected by the system…
    You are correct, that “one-on-one” bullying can be stopped by fighting back, but what say you about blacks “ganging up” five against one?
    You see, at that time, blacks were a protected species. As is the case today, any white kid who fought back would be punished more severely. The blacks would also claimed that the white kid called them n!ggers (not true), but the school administration ALWAYS took the side of the blacks.
    Your assertions on bullying work in a monolithc society but when it comes to race, and blacks against whites, all bets are off.
    The best policy is segregation by race.

  • “Lived it in real time. That’s how I know what I say is true.”

    I am not sure what you lived. But it has little or nothing to do with the article. Race war really intended as color war paints a very specific scenario. In this instance blacks making war on whites and the article uses the riots as the key artifact. But the riots of the 1960’s by black citizens did involve blacks attacking whites by entering white neighborhoods. The anatomy of those riots have been well cataloged and as I say, whites did experience violence. But it simply does not rise to warfare. And when compared to whites rioting the 1960’s were more centered. That is not the case for whites engaged in rioting. They targeted blacks en masse.

    Not the same thing at all. And none of that contradicts your personal experience — but your personal experience does not rise to the level of the riots in question.

    Keep your kindness, unnecessary and totally irrelevant. There has been no war against whites or even the police for that matter.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree
    @EliteCommInc.

    ANTI-WHITE Jew fiction is all you're spouting.

    What I've written is accurate nation wide as well as of personal experience.

    What you've written is totally inaccurate thus propaganda so far removed from the reality of those times you probably hadn't even been born yet you claim superior knowledge.

    "A person with a theory is always trumped by a person with experience" as the old saying goes which you reinforce with your nonsense.

    If you're not jew you're their golem aiding in their #jew$4whiteGENOCIDE initiative.
  • USA 1943 says:
    @anarchyst
    @ThreeCranes

    It was just as bad in the 1960s. In fact, Detroit’s Northeastern High School had a “black students union†that was successful in getting the American flag removed from the front of the school and replacing it with a “black nationalist†flag.
    The ordeal that white students had to go through was harrowing, to say the least. White students did not use the restrooms, as a “beatdown†by multiple blacks was usually the result. Blacks never fought one-on-one, the “pack mentality†was evident then as is today.
    Blacks did not want to learn, the same situation that still exists today. Teachers were deferential to blacks, although there were a few teachers who tried to carefully shield their white and asian students from predatory blacks, giving them additional attention and coursework, knowing that they could excel in spite of the, violent, raucous atmosphere.
    Anywhere blacks go, they destroy…

    Replies: @USA 1943, @HallParvey

    If Whites and Asians did NOT fight back when attacked THEY DESERVE TO GET BEAT UP, Everyone has 2 arms, legs etc. you hit them right they will get knocked out, Humans are Animals and in the Animal World the strong ALWAYS prey on the weak, My observation in schools was bullies would pick on a kid, if the kid did not fight back the bullies would keep picking on him, if the kid fought back, the bullies would leave him alone. As for the pack/not fighting one on one thing there are more whites so if a white kid got attacked by 3, he could get 5 to help him if they get 10 he should get 20, A MAJOR PART of what made America great was we conquered EVERYONE we fought, That was before Korea and Vietnam where we DID NOT fight to win, but fought politically and even though we still kicked rear on the battlefield we lost politically (Korea was a draw), we need to get back to FIGHTING TO WIN, if they start a fight BEAT THEIR REAR, If they fight as a group, get a group or a weapon and take the fight to them, attack them at their home, in their grocery store wherever, make them wish they never started a fight with you, go after their family, Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, Grand Father, Grand Mother, their friends, Make them live in constant fear, but ONLY if they ATTACK YOU FIRST, If you attack them FIRST than you are the bad person, Demand the Politicians make it a death penalty offense if 2 or more attack one person, if they don’t, do it yourself, but I REPEAT only if they attack you first. If you are given A FAIR One on One fight and you lose DO NONE OF WHAT I SAID ABOVE, Just shake his hand and say you won fair and square and move on, It is OVER, Don’t hold a grudge, but give everything you have during the fight.

    •ï¿½Replies: @anarchyst
    @USA 1943

    I partially agree with you, but it is apparent that you did not understand the situation growing up in those times.
    You would have to had experienced the feral behavior of blacks, which continues to this day. Violent tendencies are a part of black culture, PERIOD. Blacks were protected by the system...
    You are correct, that "one-on-one" bullying can be stopped by fighting back, but what say you about blacks "ganging up" five against one?
    You see, at that time, blacks were a protected species. As is the case today, any white kid who fought back would be punished more severely. The blacks would also claimed that the white kid called them n!ggers (not true), but the school administration ALWAYS took the side of the blacks.
    Your assertions on bullying work in a monolithc society but when it comes to race, and blacks against whites, all bets are off.
    The best policy is segregation by race.
    , @HallParvey
    @USA 1943

    Jesus commanded that we all turn the other cheek. A billion and a half Christians believe that a person should not fight. It would be wrong and sinful.

    See the problem?
  • @EliteCommInc.
    laughing. Oh brother . . .


    "Just about every last race killing in the North during the Sixties was black militant(s) murdering white is cities small and large. For the big city experience, can’t wait until “anarchist†from Detroit weighs in on the white experience there during the ’60s . . ."


    It's one thing to make the comments you do. It's quite another to support them. And i am very confident that there is little to nil evidence that blacks in response to the issues that sparked riots went rampaging white neigborhoods.


    That reality juxtaposed against the record I noted more than once on the history of rioting in the US as it relates to "race" (color). The intention is to demonstrate that 1968 was a period in which blacks acted out as if in war with whites -----


    Whoooops.


    The riots do not make that case, not even close. race war is a misnomer. But if you take the time to sift through the riot history, you will find that whites did in fact attack en masse black populations, even going into black neighborhoods. Now whether the record was written by Jews, aliens, devils, muskrats, or Taylor Swifts, it is corroborated in other accounts. Race war in this understanding has been largely one way --- whites warring against blacks. And that historical record is to both direct, indirect passive aggressive and aggressive behavior.


    I could not and do not make a case that some blacks have not acted out in violence against whites they have - no question. But by and large those instances have been individual in nature completely opposite in the other direction. That is that whites have engaged violence against entire black populouses and individuals as well.

    Replies: @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    Lived it in real time. That’s how I know what I say is true.

    The kindest that can be said about your comments is that you’re talking fiction about times and circumstances you never experienced.

    Bet you’ve spent your entire life at a safe distance from blacks and kiss up disgustingly during your rare encounters because what you say obviously has no basis in reality or experience.

  • @ThreeCranes
    Generally, I find the comments on Unz enlightening, but nine tenths of these seem to have been written by trolls or by persons with a reading disability. Most of you either didn't get the gist of the article or wanted to expound on some personal-pet theory of power politics etc. You shouldn't do that. The article stands as it is. It doesn't need embellishment. It is very accurate and puts the emphasis in the right places.

    I lived through the era and was old enough to understand what was going on. I attended an integrated high school and actually experienced the change in attitude of my black buck classmates. They definitely acquired attitude in the wake of the rioting. It was a watershed moment in modern American history.

    Once again, well done, Mr De Camp, and don't let the commenters attempts to derail your excellent analysis prevent you from contributing here again.

    Replies: @anarchyst

    It was just as bad in the 1960s. In fact, Detroit’s Northeastern High School had a “black students union†that was successful in getting the American flag removed from the front of the school and replacing it with a “black nationalist†flag.
    The ordeal that white students had to go through was harrowing, to say the least. White students did not use the restrooms, as a “beatdown†by multiple blacks was usually the result. Blacks never fought one-on-one, the “pack mentality†was evident then as is today.
    Blacks did not want to learn, the same situation that still exists today. Teachers were deferential to blacks, although there were a few teachers who tried to carefully shield their white and asian students from predatory blacks, giving them additional attention and coursework, knowing that they could excel in spite of the, violent, raucous atmosphere.
    Anywhere blacks go, they destroy…

    •ï¿½Replies: @USA 1943
    @anarchyst

    If Whites and Asians did NOT fight back when attacked THEY DESERVE TO GET BEAT UP, Everyone has 2 arms, legs etc. you hit them right they will get knocked out, Humans are Animals and in the Animal World the strong ALWAYS prey on the weak, My observation in schools was bullies would pick on a kid, if the kid did not fight back the bullies would keep picking on him, if the kid fought back, the bullies would leave him alone. As for the pack/not fighting one on one thing there are more whites so if a white kid got attacked by 3, he could get 5 to help him if they get 10 he should get 20, A MAJOR PART of what made America great was we conquered EVERYONE we fought, That was before Korea and Vietnam where we DID NOT fight to win, but fought politically and even though we still kicked rear on the battlefield we lost politically (Korea was a draw), we need to get back to FIGHTING TO WIN, if they start a fight BEAT THEIR REAR, If they fight as a group, get a group or a weapon and take the fight to them, attack them at their home, in their grocery store wherever, make them wish they never started a fight with you, go after their family, Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, Grand Father, Grand Mother, their friends, Make them live in constant fear, but ONLY if they ATTACK YOU FIRST, If you attack them FIRST than you are the bad person, Demand the Politicians make it a death penalty offense if 2 or more attack one person, if they don't, do it yourself, but I REPEAT only if they attack you first. If you are given A FAIR One on One fight and you lose DO NONE OF WHAT I SAID ABOVE, Just shake his hand and say you won fair and square and move on, It is OVER, Don't hold a grudge, but give everything you have during the fight.

    Replies: @anarchyst, @HallParvey
    , @HallParvey
    @anarchyst

    Confederate revenge.
  • Generally, I find the comments on Unz enlightening, but nine tenths of these seem to have been written by trolls or by persons with a reading disability. Most of you either didn’t get the gist of the article or wanted to expound on some personal-pet theory of power politics etc. You shouldn’t do that. The article stands as it is. It doesn’t need embellishment. It is very accurate and puts the emphasis in the right places.

    I lived through the era and was old enough to understand what was going on. I attended an integrated high school and actually experienced the change in attitude of my black buck classmates. They definitely acquired attitude in the wake of the rioting. It was a watershed moment in modern American history.

    Once again, well done, Mr De Camp, and don’t let the commenters attempts to derail your excellent analysis prevent you from contributing here again.

    •ï¿½Replies: @anarchyst
    @ThreeCranes

    It was just as bad in the 1960s. In fact, Detroit’s Northeastern High School had a “black students union†that was successful in getting the American flag removed from the front of the school and replacing it with a “black nationalist†flag.
    The ordeal that white students had to go through was harrowing, to say the least. White students did not use the restrooms, as a “beatdown†by multiple blacks was usually the result. Blacks never fought one-on-one, the “pack mentality†was evident then as is today.
    Blacks did not want to learn, the same situation that still exists today. Teachers were deferential to blacks, although there were a few teachers who tried to carefully shield their white and asian students from predatory blacks, giving them additional attention and coursework, knowing that they could excel in spite of the, violent, raucous atmosphere.
    Anywhere blacks go, they destroy…

    Replies: @USA 1943, @HallParvey
  • I would deconstruct the black anger issue. But instead of allowing the matter at hand to be further cluttered, let’s just admit that blacks regardless of their supposed anger are short in the pole of engaging in color warfare (war against whites 0 in the scale or magnitude as that of whites in the opposite direction.

    One of the tools of white warfare of course has been to gin up the numbers and the a priori assumptions about blacks as excuse for police misbehavior in the name of law and order. And it is accurate that an increasing number of blacks began to engage in more direct confrontation to those tactics – hence the term “black militant”.

    even here the number of supposed intelligent commenters defend violations against blacks by whites for something as innocuous as making passes at white women, a common variant of the black rapist mystique.

    1968 is a watershed moment for whites because behaviors refrained by blacks, even the “good blacks” regarding police behavior were captured live on screen. But until technology loaded up everyone’s phones with cameras and hand held cameras hit main street such as the case with Rodney King, whites could dismiss blacks as suffering from mental illness en masse. Sadly, they have evidence that the police lie about whites they encounter.

    I am not condoning riots. But clearly, the riots were not acts of war against whites. Instead they reflect a level of frustration that is self reflected and self directed.

    ————————————–

    It is akin to the contend that there was a war on police and by supposition that war was being conducted by militant blacks —

    hysterical nonsense based on the numbers of police deaths by homicide committed by others.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Counterinsurgency
    @EliteCommInc.


    the riots were not acts of war against whites. Instead they reflect a level of frustration that is self reflected and self directed.
    �
    The Black population is about 50% unable to work productively in an industrial society (that's those with IQ below the mid 80s). Of course they are "frustrated". So what? Do we destroy European society because the Black population can't tolerate it? Do we abolish Black society because it is making industrialization uneconomic by diverting necessary capital investments to immediate consumption? Do we compromise and, if so, what is the compromise? Supporting the Blacks in their own neighborhoods has proven a disaster for all concerned, so what's both better and feasible? Nobody knows, not you, not me, not anybody.

    As it is, we're headed for a HAL solution right out of 2001. "I propose that we replace the module, and let it fail. The cause of the failure will then be evident."

    Counterinsurgency
  • laughing. Oh brother . . .

    “Just about every last race killing in the North during the Sixties was black militant(s) murdering white is cities small and large. For the big city experience, can’t wait until “anarchist†from Detroit weighs in on the white experience there during the ’60s . . .”

    It’s one thing to make the comments you do. It’s quite another to support them. And i am very confident that there is little to nil evidence that blacks in response to the issues that sparked riots went rampaging white neigborhoods.

    That reality juxtaposed against the record I noted more than once on the history of rioting in the US as it relates to “race” (color). The intention is to demonstrate that 1968 was a period in which blacks acted out as if in war with whites —–

    Whoooops.

    The riots do not make that case, not even close. race war is a misnomer. But if you take the time to sift through the riot history, you will find that whites did in fact attack en masse black populations, even going into black neighborhoods. Now whether the record was written by Jews, aliens, devils, muskrats, or Taylor Swifts, it is corroborated in other accounts. Race war in this understanding has been largely one way — whites warring against blacks. And that historical record is to both direct, indirect passive aggressive and aggressive behavior.

    I could not and do not make a case that some blacks have not acted out in violence against whites they have – no question. But by and large those instances have been individual in nature completely opposite in the other direction. That is that whites have engaged violence against entire black populouses and individuals as well.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree
    @EliteCommInc.

    Lived it in real time. That's how I know what I say is true.

    The kindest that can be said about your comments is that you're talking fiction about times and circumstances you never experienced.

    Bet you've spent your entire life at a safe distance from blacks and kiss up disgustingly during your rare encounters because what you say obviously has no basis in reality or experience.
  • @EliteCommInc.
    I guess the tact of "race war" is something new to the discussion. Let's first explicate the riots of 1968 and others of that period correct. What the author means is color war. And by that that blacks engaged in a war against whites.

    The false assessment here is simple,

    whatever the cause blacks did not engage in violence against whites during that period. There is nil evidence that black populations went to white neighborhoods and engaged in violence against them specifically. No. In fact one of the peculiar staples in these incidents is that the neighborhoods were nearly exclusively black.

    So race war or more accurately "color war" is not supported by the data, despite the destruction. In other words what occurred were more akin to self frustration in which the actor acts out against self interest. It's John McEnroe smashing his own racket. In fact in nearly all such incidents, the only confrontations were to police authorities understood in said communities as the source of troubles.

    Now clearly, said violence could serve as warning of what could take place if said blacks decided to engage in the same color warfare tactics used by the same police and more poignantly tactics by police at the behest of whites -- no need to retrace that history the record is outlined pretty well.


    So whites looking at the self flagellation, on considering what could happen if said tactics were turned on them could certainly be cause for fear. But we just don't have that history on record. What we do have for all of US history is whites engaged in violence individual, group and enmasse against black populations: literally going into black neighborhoods because:


    some black

    1. got a promotion
    2. moved into the neighborhood
    3. got a job
    4. came home in uniform of service
    5. walked in a white neighborhood
    6. visited a public beach
    7. supposed flirtations with a white women
    8. was elected to office

    all of these and more have provoked mass violence by whites specifcally targeting black populations and black property


    I am not condone violence. However, when it comes to "race war" color warfare both direct, indirect violent and passive aggressive -- whites own the matter to this day. They even go so far as to mischaracterize civil unrest in a deliberate attempt to distort truth from reality. Now clearly there have been blacks that have attacked whites. No question. But warfare by color ---


    the author ought to be ashamed at the pandering. I guess one could cling to the escape clause that said property was not really owned by blacks in the neighborhood. But then that's just loopholing and whites own the market on that well as part of the color war. If anything when it comes to anger by people of color blacks have historically demonstrated far more restraint in targeting.

    Whether that is because they know they are outnumbered or merely because they simply preferred to get the matter out of their system probably has not been thoroughly investigated.

    Whites didn't get until the 1968 democratic convention. White kids of priviledge rioting over an election.

    One of my favorite presidents was elected that year.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2018/aug/19/the-whole-world-is-watching-chicago-police-riot-vietnam-war-regan

    Replies: @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    Here it is August but the comment to which this responds is nothing but Jew-lie after Jew-lie instead of August after July.

    Obviously written by somebody at a safe distance by time and/or space from the very real black militant murderers of whites during the 60s. Probably somebody who’s never had to confront anybody black about anything and whose sole demeanor towards blacks is to sickeningly and disgustingly kiss up in repulsive insincerity.

    Some sure are bold when not under threat of black violence – an insulated experience compared to those of us who had to speak the truth to Black Power in words and actions daily during that era to survive and thrive amidst the constantly threatening presence of black militants.

    The commenter is obviously Jew or shabby goy leftist peck’ hater of whitey spewing lies as revisionist history to further the #jews4whiteGENOCIDE pogrom.

    Disgusting August Jew-lie #1:

    whatever the cause blacks did not engage in violence against whites during that period. There is nil evidence that black populations went to white neighborhoods and engaged in violence against them specifically.

     Just about every last race killing in the North during the Sixties was black militant(s) murdering white is cities small and large. For the big city experience, can’t wait until “anarchist” from Detroit weighs in on the white experience there during the ’60s.

    Jew/shabby goy vilifying enforcement of law and order as racist white evil:

    Now clearly, said violence could serve as warning of what could take place if said blacks decided to engage in the same color warfare tactics used by the same police and more poignantly tactics by police at the behest of whites — no need to retrace that history the record is outlined pretty well.

    Fiction like Jew Hollywood; never happened in real time, only in Jew fantasy projected onto whitey on the silver silver screen:

    So whites looking at the self flagellation, on considering what could happen if said tactics were turned on them could certainly be cause for fear. But we just don’t have that history on record. What we do have for all of US history is whites engaged in violence individual, group and enmasse against black populations:

    Even Jew Hollywood hasn’t produced fiction this far removed from historical reality:

    literally going into black neighborhoods because:
    some black
    1. got a promotion

    2. moved into the neighborhood
    
3. got a job

    4. came home in uniform of service
    
5. walked in a white neighborhood

    6. visited a public beach
    
7. supposed flirtations with a white women
    
8. was elected to office

    all of these and more have provoked mass violence by whites specifcally targeting black populations and black property

    Here’s the classic Jew / Shabby goy leftist peck’ twisting theme: speech they don’t like is violence that should be prosecuted, violence they like is speech to be protected by right:

    They even go so far as to mischaracterize civil unrest in a deliberate attempt to distort truth from reality.

    And of course violence against whites by blacks is never racist or even wrong but white violence against blacks is the ultimate evil:

    Now clearly there have been blacks that have attacked whites. No question. But warfare by color —

    Blacks would be so much better off if this lie were true instead of the truth being that black behavior is practically universally acknowledged to be at the opposite extreme for lack of impulse control:

    If anything when it comes to anger by people of color blacks have historically demonstrated far more restraint in targeting.

    Like Dr. Patrick Slattery says: Jews are like bats who say to birds “Look I’m a bird, too, I have wings”, then go to mammals and say “Look, I’m a mammal, too! I have fur.”

    The “Chicago Seven were mostly spoiled Jewish kids of privilege typical of what is always seen, there only being Jew privilege and there is no such thing as white privilege because whites are the second class citizens of the USA, not a “protected class” like blacks and jews:

    Whites didn’t get until the 1968 democratic convention. White kids of priviledge rioting over an election.

  • Check into the events of 1919 and there abouts.

  • @Robert H. Burt
    Our lives are short. Biology is long. Our species is still in its early stages. Many problems which now seem impossible to resolve will be resolved in due time. Race is a valid concept. Am I a racist? Absolutely. Does that mean I perceive individuals of other genetic groups as inferior and that therefore I need to dominate them? No it doesn't. Nonetheless I do not need to deny my own needs and lie to myself and pretend it is appropriate for other genetic groups to have dominion over me. I have worked with and for human individuals of many different genetic groups for many years. There are individuals of every group that I respect and admire and like, and some of every group that it seems clear to me the world would be a better place without. The process of biological evolution will resolve every one of these issues by means of its own dynamics. It isn't necessary that I do nothing. But I also don't need to do anything daring, or decisive, or all-encompassing to try and bring about the ultimate state of things, which, simply given enough time, will eventuate correctly as legitimate outcomes of the real nature and character of these realities themselves.

    Replies: @Richard B

    “Our lives are short. Biology is long. Our species is still in its early stages. Many problems which now seem impossible to resolve will be resolved in due time. Race is a valid concept. Am I a racist? Absolutely. Does that mean I perceive individuals of other genetic groups as inferior and that therefore I need to dominate them? No it doesn’t.”

    But it does to them. And because it does

    they will never listen to you

    they will never let you have any political power

    they will and are doing everything they can to make sure you and yours have no future

    What social institution today will allow you to say in public what you wrote in your comment?

    Educational Institutions? No!

    Government Institutions? No!

    Economic Institutions? No!

    They will brand you a “White Supremacist” and you’ll be finished, or worse.

    Your comment might make sense to itself. But it has no bearing on reality.

    You declare as a fact that human beings are capable of perfect adaptation.

    You don’t even assume it, or suggest it. You just state it as fact without offering any proof. Which, of course, you can’t because there is no proof.

    Comments like yours, written mind you at a time when we have more precise knowledge of ourselves than ever before (that’s quantity and quality of knowledge), is one of the many reasons why

    we shouldn’t laugh at the dinosaurs for getting themselves extinct.

    After all, they were around a lot longer than we’ve been so far.

    The fact is, human beings seem to be doing everything they can to prove to themselves that they’re a biologically maladaptive species.

    But, of course, whether we are or not will only be known when there are no human beings to know it.

    So, until then, we shouldn’t assume we’re capable of perfect adaptation.

    Instead, we should be doing all we can to improve our chances of survival.

    But we’re not.

  • @Thomm
    I find it revealing (but not the least bit surprising) that the shooters in both El Paso and Dayton were White Trashionalists with extreme left-wing economic views.

    They were supporters of Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, not Trump.

    Most WNs prefer Bernie Sanders first and foremost. That is evident from the WN commenters here as well.

    Replies: @Commentator Mike, @Anon, @Hippopotamusdrome

    Most WNs prefer Bernie Sanders

    Wat? Bernie Sanders the Communist Jew? Really?

  • Even after the acquittal of the police officers loopholing extrordinaire the slow boil that erupted despite the clear video evidence and change of venue loopholing — laugh.

    The black engaged in violence were limited to their neighborhoods. It’s not innocent , make excuses for blacks engaged in violence, it’s suspect logic to hide the obvious social construction and or to justify violating the constitutional rights of a certain segment of the population.

  • I guess the tact of “race war” is something new to the discussion. Let’s first explicate the riots of 1968 and others of that period correct. What the author means is color war. And by that that blacks engaged in a war against whites.

    The false assessment here is simple,

    whatever the cause blacks did not engage in violence against whites during that period. There is nil evidence that black populations went to white neighborhoods and engaged in violence against them specifically. No. In fact one of the peculiar staples in these incidents is that the neighborhoods were nearly exclusively black.

    So race war or more accurately “color war” is not supported by the data, despite the destruction. In other words what occurred were more akin to self frustration in which the actor acts out against self interest. It’s John McEnroe smashing his own racket. In fact in nearly all such incidents, the only confrontations were to police authorities understood in said communities as the source of troubles.

    Now clearly, said violence could serve as warning of what could take place if said blacks decided to engage in the same color warfare tactics used by the same police and more poignantly tactics by police at the behest of whites — no need to retrace that history the record is outlined pretty well.

    So whites looking at the self flagellation, on considering what could happen if said tactics were turned on them could certainly be cause for fear. But we just don’t have that history on record. What we do have for all of US history is whites engaged in violence individual, group and enmasse against black populations: literally going into black neighborhoods because:

    some black

    1. got a promotion
    2. moved into the neighborhood
    3. got a job
    4. came home in uniform of service
    5. walked in a white neighborhood
    6. visited a public beach
    7. supposed flirtations with a white women
    8. was elected to office

    all of these and more have provoked mass violence by whites specifcally targeting black populations and black property

    I am not condone violence. However, when it comes to “race war” color warfare both direct, indirect violent and passive aggressive — whites own the matter to this day. They even go so far as to mischaracterize civil unrest in a deliberate attempt to distort truth from reality. Now clearly there have been blacks that have attacked whites. No question. But warfare by color —

    the author ought to be ashamed at the pandering. I guess one could cling to the escape clause that said property was not really owned by blacks in the neighborhood. But then that’s just loopholing and whites own the market on that well as part of the color war. If anything when it comes to anger by people of color blacks have historically demonstrated far more restraint in targeting.

    Whether that is because they know they are outnumbered or merely because they simply preferred to get the matter out of their system probably has not been thoroughly investigated.

    Whites didn’t get until the 1968 democratic convention. White kids of priviledge rioting over an election.

    One of my favorite presidents was elected that year.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2018/aug/19/the-whole-world-is-watching-chicago-police-riot-vietnam-war-regan

    •ï¿½Replies: @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree
    @EliteCommInc.

    Here it is August but the comment to which this responds is nothing but Jew-lie after Jew-lie instead of August after July.

    Obviously written by somebody at a safe distance by time and/or space from the very real black militant murderers of whites during the 60s. Probably somebody who's never had to confront anybody black about anything and whose sole demeanor towards blacks is to sickeningly and disgustingly kiss up in repulsive insincerity.

    Some sure are bold when not under threat of black violence - an insulated experience compared to those of us who had to speak the truth to Black Power in words and actions daily during that era to survive and thrive amidst the constantly threatening presence of black militants.

    The commenter is obviously Jew or shabby goy leftist peck' hater of whitey spewing lies as revisionist history to further the #jews4whiteGENOCIDE pogrom.


    Disgusting August Jew-lie #1:

    whatever the cause blacks did not engage in violence against whites during that period. There is nil evidence that black populations went to white neighborhoods and engaged in violence against them specifically.

    �
     Just about every last race killing in the North during the Sixties was black militant(s) murdering white is cities small and large. For the big city experience, can't wait until "anarchist" from Detroit weighs in on the white experience there during the '60s.

    Jew/shabby goy vilifying enforcement of law and order as racist white evil:

    Now clearly, said violence could serve as warning of what could take place if said blacks decided to engage in the same color warfare tactics used by the same police and more poignantly tactics by police at the behest of whites — no need to retrace that history the record is outlined pretty well.

    �
    Fiction like Jew Hollywood; never happened in real time, only in Jew fantasy projected onto whitey on the silver silver screen:

    So whites looking at the self flagellation, on considering what could happen if said tactics were turned on them could certainly be cause for fear. But we just don’t have that history on record. What we do have for all of US history is whites engaged in violence individual, group and enmasse against black populations:

    �
    Even Jew Hollywood hasn't produced fiction this far removed from historical reality:

    literally going into black neighborhoods because:
    some black
    1. got a promotion

    2. moved into the neighborhood
    
3. got a job

    4. came home in uniform of service
    
5. walked in a white neighborhood

    6. visited a public beach
    
7. supposed flirtations with a white women
    
8. was elected to office

    all of these and more have provoked mass violence by whites specifcally targeting black populations and black property

    �
    Here's the classic Jew / Shabby goy leftist peck' twisting theme: speech they don't like is violence that should be prosecuted, violence they like is speech to be protected by right:

    They even go so far as to mischaracterize civil unrest in a deliberate attempt to distort truth from reality.

    �
    And of course violence against whites by blacks is never racist or even wrong but white violence against blacks is the ultimate evil:

    Now clearly there have been blacks that have attacked whites. No question. But warfare by color —

    �
    Blacks would be so much better off if this lie were true instead of the truth being that black behavior is practically universally acknowledged to be at the opposite extreme for lack of impulse control:

    If anything when it comes to anger by people of color blacks have historically demonstrated far more restraint in targeting.

    �
    Like Dr. Patrick Slattery says: Jews are like bats who say to birds "Look I'm a bird, too, I have wings", then go to mammals and say "Look, I'm a mammal, too! I have fur."

    The "Chicago Seven were mostly spoiled Jewish kids of privilege typical of what is always seen, there only being Jew privilege and there is no such thing as white privilege because whites are the second class citizens of the USA, not a "protected class" like blacks and jews:

    Whites didn’t get until the 1968 democratic convention. White kids of priviledge rioting over an election.

    �
  • @niteranger
    Get ready for a replay. The parties are now banning together to stop the sale of what they call Assault Rifles without a mention of all the murders and shootings in the cesspool of Democratic cities this week. America is already on their way to becoming a third world cesspool and it won't stop. This guy in Texas appears to have a Jewish background. The Jews and their associate goy will use this to step up against every white person in order to stop what they perceive as White Nationalism.

    No one will believe what is going to happen in this country and most whites are too stupid do anything about it.

    Replies: @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist, @SparkleBoiWonderToy, @Pheasant, @PV van der Byl

    This guy in Texas appears to have a Jewish background.

    Very interesting. Do you have a link to a source?

  • @JackOH
    @Counterinsurgency

    Counter---, thanks, and I'm sort of half-inclined to agree with the five points in your #6 comment above. I have plenty of anecdotes and observations that sort of attest to White elites caving in to the folk philosophy of Black Supremacism.

    I also believe the legacy of the 1960s Black rioting and fear of its renewal is that any practical examination of civil rights laws, affirmative action, fair housing, and what have you---no matter the damage caused by those laws to innocents---is off the table. By practical examination, I mean a disinterested study of the actual behavioral consequences of laws meant to help Black folks.

    I did just that before thinking about emigrating from the States, and I was truly horrified that the evidence was that affirmative action, the gamed version favoring White women, had indeed hurt my career prospects. (BTW--I stayed in the States---not enough savings for the move I wanted.)

    Replies: @PV van der Byl, @95Theses

    Just out of curiosity, what country were you thinking of moving to? I can’t think of a first world country that doesn’t have some sort of affirmative action program for women.

  • @Bucky
    @Counterinsurgency

    Hispanics are exponentially preferable to blacks. Far superior work ethic, better food, music, culture, etc.

    Replies: @Truth, @Counterinsurgency, @MBlanc46

    Which is why the employer class is importing Mexicans by the millions despite having a built-in laboring class.

  • @Ilyana_Rozumova
    I still think that it is not so much race, it is more culture that is incompatible.
    So it is not so much white or black racism. It is that these two cultures simply cannot amalgamate.
    To create unified society one of those cultures must die out.

    Replies: @anon, @Jacques Sheete, @orionyx, @TheJewishQuestion, @MBlanc46

    Wherever blacks go, you get black culture. Wherever whites go, you get white culture. Funny, that.

  • @The Alarmist
    My mother was big-time for the civil rights movement in the early '60s. It seemed to have wavered for her, and it never took root in me, after we visited my father, a cop, laying in a hospital bed with a gunshot wound taken in one of the several riots that summer.

    This can be said about many issues at many points in my lifetime, but the US might regret not showing an appropriate level of force at a time when it still could have made a difference. Instead, we elect leaders who punish the people who actually make the country work, who pander to the problem-children, and then we whine while we reap what they sow.

    Replies: @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    I’ve said for the longest that since “the civil rights movement in the early ’60s” most whites have “admired blacks from a safe distance”.

    I’ve also said with regard to an individual white person’s opinion on the character of an individual black person that I put no trust in that opinion unless it comes from a white deeply experienced in athletics or law enforcement because only those white populations have real experience borne of intense interface with blacks such that the novelty and corresponding predisposition toward inflation has expired.

    …the US might regret not showing an appropriate level of force at a time when it still could have made a difference.

    This is absolutely true as mentioned in my prior comment on this article’s mention of “Jim Crow” and the reality that only harsh deterrents* will stifle black violence.

    Instead, we elect leaders who punish the people who actually make the country work, who pander to the problem-children, and then we whine while we reap what they sow.

    True, and the cause being Jew donors controlling the candidates and the jewdia and Jew owned cyber social media tricking the electorate as a main part of their #Jews4whiteGENOCIDE goal.

    *In comment last month referencing United States Colored Troops Civil War Veteran Amputee William Hannibal Thomas’ endorsement of corporal punishment, I mistakenly, writing from memory, indicated he favored public punishment when subsequent rereading shows he advocated for private infliction.

  • @anon
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist

    > The more they use their weapons on each other

    Only blacks do that. Rural white America is chock full of guns, and enjoys an extremely low violent crime rate.

    Replies: @Truth, @Farrakhan.DDuke.AliceWalker.AllAgree

    > The more they use their weapons on each other

    Only blacks do that. Rural white America is chock full of guns, and enjoys an extremely low violent crime rate.

    So true.

    We’ve all heard the right wing saying “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people.”

    Query if we compared the totals to see which number is greater, killings by blacks or killings by gunfire (knowing most killings will probably fall into both categories but counting those in each to see which total is greater).

    There’s a likelihood the conclusion would be “Guns don’t kill people as often as blacks kill people.”

    And of course most of the people blacks kill are black and very few blacks are killed by whites so we don’t need a detailed study to say “Whites don’t kill as many people as blacks kill black people.”

  • The American Race War of 1962-69

    That would be the title necessary to accurately describe the realities that occurred in my rustbelt hometown and, I believe, nationally as per the article’s mention of 1965 Watts and riots preceding it.

    Have said ever since that the murders of whites by the black militant killers of the 1960s both:

    1) had infinitely more impact than MLK in causing the social changes that occurred as the result of the 1960s to the now-in-hindsight obviously severe detriment of both blacks and whites; and

    2) instilled in white people a Stockholm Syndrome type permanent mortal fear of blacks which destroyed whites’ immunity to untruth leaving them vulnerable to the “Political Correctness” disease which has infected the white population causing them to embrace obvious falsehoods to such an extreme that ever since they have compulsively, eagerly and relentlessly repeated lies glorifying blacks knowing them to be untrue.

    Now that we’ve had fifty years of giving every bias in favor of promoting blacks, the harsh reality of experience leads the unsheltered to this inescapable conclusion which “Political Correctness” and the Jews (which are really one in the same because “PC” is Jew-imposed Bolshevik speech code) have made quasi-criminal to express despite the deep-grooves pattern leaving no doubt as to its truth:

    Black management of any institution has the same effect as untreated high blood pressure on a person’s body: At first there are no symptoms, and then one’s heart explodes.

    The key thing is that black leaders – unless they are being supported by whites, and even then it’s iffy – make a series of small, bad decisions that compound over time.

    And what we’ve experienced beginning in the ’60s to present also gives new light to the prior policies of white Southerners who had all the authority but in many regions lived as a minority among blacks:

    …the Watts Riot of 1965. Watts wasn’t the first black riot of the 1960s, but it happened in a place where the economy was good and there was no long-standing history of “racism,†as in the South.[3]

    [3] A case can be made that the Watts Riot demonstrated that blacks can’t fit into white civilization at all, and that this was the reason for Jim Crow in the first place.

    Everything that’s happened since the “Civil Rights” era has revealed that absent harsh deterrents like “Jim Crow” black violence devastates those in proximity to blacks, most of whom by definition are black, thus the victims of “tolerance” are primarily black.

  • @Ilyana_Rozumova
    @orionyx

    Volume is definitely the deciding factor. Once the volume of foreign culture reached certain magnitude, than the members of the foreign culture do not find it necessary to accept the assimilation into native culture. In US both foreign cultures negroid and Hispanics did reach that level.
    And so it is double trouble for US.

    Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova, @RadicalCenter

    Well said, Ilyana.

  • @Jacques Sheete
    @Ilyana_Rozumova


    Practically all are in government payroll.
    �
    Just like the big banks, other large corporations and lazy white trash!

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    Jacques, you’ve been around here long enough to know that most of us aren’t real fond of bankers and big corporations, either, considering them to be mostly disloyal to our country, our people, and basic fairness.

    Sticking to the point she made, which was overwhelmingly and obviously accurate, Africans in the USA are a constant threat to the rest of us of all races. You haven’t contradicted the statement that Africans (and the many millions of Halfricans) are by far the least productive, least economically and socially useful, most violent, most CRUEL, and least assimilable major group here.

    The number of bankers and people running big companies pales in comparison to the tens of millions who comprise this African dead weight, this cancer on decent white, Asian, and Hispanic people in our society.

  • @Anon
    @RadicalCenter

    Mandarin, German , Russian ... interesting languages but difficult for the yankees tovarich .

    I speak english , I like english , and I believe I know quite well the US culture and people , I have a lot of apreciation for the US .

    . Yankees should study Spanish as a second language because it is an american language . Most Spanish speaking countries study English at school as a second language , and we don`t lose our identity because we study english . But if you do not want to know anything about spanish language and culture , if you reject it , the hispanic people , dissapointed , will end up rejecting yankees also .

    After all you are neighbours of a lot of spanish speaking american countries , like it or not , you should communicate better with your neighbours . In Texas , New Mexico , Arizona , California and Florida spanish is the second language , like it or not , it is the natives , the spaniards , the history , the spanish were the first european to arrive to America , like it or not . before than the english pirates .

    English is the first language of the world , it is a strong language , it is studied all around the world , why are you so insecure ?

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    If you know how the language groups relate to each other, Tovarish 😉 then you’ll know that German is NOT especially difficult for a reasonably bright native speaker of English.

    Mandarin, yes, extremely difficult not just for Yankees but for you too. But not difficult when they learn as small children, as our children are. Plus my white/Asian children appear to be well above average in intelligence, LOL.

    As for Russian, it is typically ranked as harder for English-speakers to learn than the Romance languages (easiest) and Germanic languages (next easiest), but not as hard as Asian languages such as Mandarin, Cantonese, and Japanese.

    As for the status of English around the world, that doesn’t change the fact that it is being pushed aside by Spanish on our territory in the USA. Anyone sensible and proud SHOULD be “insecure†and angry about that. I can see English remaining the international common language for quite some time while Spanish — and ignorant, low-quality, very limited-vocabulary English — supplant actual English here in the USA. It should be easy for you to understand how this would be a negative development for us here, and perceived by us as such.

    As for Spanish being the first in the New World, you are presumably ignoring the Indian tribes and the Swedish explorers. Strange, because I mentioned that in my comment to you. Ignoring an argument or evidence doesn’t casually rebut it, you know.

    You also seem to have ignored my comment about the negligible presence of the brutal Spanish and savage Indians alike over this vast land mass.

    I tried hard to be accommodating and diplomatic, and emphasize areas of likely agreement. Please try not to simply repeat what you wrote before without addressing criticism and refinements.

    You should also know, and maybe do know, that Yankee/Yanqui has long been used in a derisive and resentful way against Americans, especially white Americans, and the USA. It’s not alright for you to be a wiseass and continue calling me that while pretending to be interested in a civilized discussion….. Also, Genosse, when you make comments about “Yankeesâ€, I wonder why you are always leaving out the Red Sox, the Mets, and the other teams,

    What country are you from, then? Then the fun can begin. What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander. (You seem to know a lot of English — you know, the language that I shouldn’t care about weakening and disappearing from my Balkanizing country so long as some simplified bastardized form is used by foreigners abroad — I’m sure you’ll understand the goose-gander expression.)

    •ï¿½Replies: @Nicholas Stix
    @RadicalCenter

    I don't know about her difficulty, relative to other tongues, but a very well-kept secret is that German is a beautiful language. She was my first love in West Germany.
  • it looks like the African is not really into sustained “war”–prolonged bouts of terrorism and hit and run ambushes, yes, but a race “war”? Doubtful. (the coloureds win because the Whites capitulate.) Thus their hit and run campaigns.

    https://nationalvanguard.org/2015/03/the-saga-of-yahweh-ben-yahweh/

  • White appeasement creates black crime exactly the way Neville Chamberlain helped create Adolf Hitler and World War II. Appeasement never works. When you’re dealing with a ruthless sociopath, the only thing that works is a gunshot.

  • @Truth
    @Bucky

    ...Yes, and,to whites as well. I know enough of each. Ever eat at a truckstop, or listen to that death-metal, shit?

    Me and Frijole Fred are in agreement here.

    Replies: @Counterinsurgency, @David In TN

    There’s a truck stop south of Nashville on I-65 that I patronize, excellent food.

  • @Justvisiting
    @Counterinsurgency

    The future of blacks in California is very dim.

    The Hispanics will eventually use their power--and establish total dominance in the state.

    The guilt trips won't work on them.

    Replies: @Moi, @David In TN

    “The guilt trips won’t work on them.”

    You could convict O.J. Simpson in Los Angeles today.

    •ï¿½Agree: RadicalCenter
  • @Counterinsurgency
    @Plus ça change......


    So whoever controls these two political parties would not get into over complicating the system by adding a third wheel but if possible break it down to and dividing it to the already two opposing blocks which would be easier to control.
    �
    There is a temptation to believe that somebody, somewhere, knows what is going on and has a plan to deal with it. That human reality is observable and controllable. You might read some of my previous posts concerning the Bolsheviks, a group of smart planners if ever there was one, and their heir, Stalin. They really did out-think the entire West, including Germany, and they they out-executed the entire West. The number of completely obvious things they overlooked is hilarious.

    Nobody knows what's going on, nobody has a working plan. They're just treading water, pursuing local optima. Not even in theory is there an algorithm for observing human society, much less controlling it. It's disillusioning, I know, and it means that some day you're going to get tagged, unless you die of old age first. If you figure a way out, let me know. I'm interested. Till the, Jordan Peterson seems to have the best tragic view of life available.

    Counterinsurgency

    Counterinsurgency

    Replies: @Plus ça change......

    Well, …. a way out? J. Peterson? Neither the way out nor Peterson can help you unless you are an easterner to understand it. You see, Peterson is from a western upbringing (catholic or whatever) so he cannot help you but to help on some level be at peace with the western materialistic ownership and emptiness of soul (how the west lost it’s way is another story).
    Nobody knows what’s going on???? No, nobody dares calling it what it really is!!!
    A preserved ID of the terrorist in a rubble of WTC without any piece of the airplane remaining? What is that an example of if not for a planted fake evidence?
    It’s not that nobody knows what is going on but that nobody understands/ recognizes anything that they see in front of their eyes. It is called neocortical war. And yes, they have a plan for everyone’s mind to be in a state of cognitive dissonance.
    As far as Bolshevik’s and communists, the only country that made a cleanup from them were the East Germans up to a point, but immediately were sucked in the NATO/Western/Gladio system. The rest of the eastern block was allowed for the communists to change flags and call them selves Democrats and socialists or whatever without serving jail time.
    The west doesn’t see beyond fattening their coffers and expects everyone else to follow their model as if it’s the only way worthwhile.

    ….. Plus c’est la même chose.

  • You believe in the mainstream lie about 911? Really? Stay here long enough and awaken. That’s just nonsense. Plus, they were Saudis, so your claim about the false flag being perpetrated by third world immigrants is refuted

  • @Digital Samizdat

    ... 9/11, an incident caused by Third Word immigrants.
    �
    Uh, not exactly. Stick around Unz.com and you'll get religion on that issue.

    Other than that, a very good article. I do so miss having a White society where we could be honest about all this stuff. Good work, Morris!

    Replies: @El Dato, @Jonathan Revusky, @homahr, @Parsnipitous, @BengaliCanadianDude

    And another detail— Saudi Arabia is NOT a third-world country

  • “Blacks have ZERO agency but what they get from the jews.”

    Apparently, someone who doesn’t know the meaning of the word agency.

  • @Counterinsurgency
    This article explains quite a few incidents that had puzzled me.

    Contemporary media coverage (which i read at the time, being in Manhattan during the riots) spoke of nothing but massive over-reaction to tumultuous but harmless mobs of Black people who were only protesting intolerable living conditions. Supposedly, frightened and poorly trained US troops massively over-reacted, using 50 caliber rounds where a riot like would have sufficed, and that's all that happened. There was no serious racial threat to Whites, and the Blacks had once again been treated very badly for no reason other than White psychological failures.

    This is apparently not what happened at all.

    What happened was that the Blacks (previously just a voting block) finally established independence backed full scale escalation dominance [1]. Note that it was about this time that NAACP purged its Jewish members from all influential positions.

    The escalation ladder was something like this:
    1) Unfavorable votes by Black representatives.
    2) Unfavorable articles at behest of Black political operatives ("activists").
    3) Picketing
    4) Demonstrations that would block traffic and upset other voting blocks.
    5) Riots
    6) Riots / wide scale destruction

    Note that the Blacks had established (in alliance with New England and New York) absolute dominance on each of the rungs. The 1967 riots were simply a demonstration that Blacks dominated rung 6 _independently of their allies_. The 1992 LA riots actually showed that Black dominance of Rung 6 had weakened in California, as considerable participation by media allies was necessary to start the actual wide scale destruction, but in 1967 Rung 6 Black dominance was absolute[2].

    This explains several observations and incidents that seemed, at the time, not to make sense:
    1) Executive at a major manufacturing industry telling me (as I walked past him to see somebody else) that "American wages are going down to world levels".
    2) Toleration of Black misconduct during and for several years after the Vietnam war. Similar toleration of POC misconduct today.
    3) Reaction of various business executives to merit based promotion: "If you did that, the Blacks would be rioting in the streets".
    4) Ability of Black affirmative action appointees to veto actions by the organizations employing them.
    5) The strange impression one gets from politicians and corporate leaders that they have lost everything, but believe that if they just don't tell you, you won't know.

    In each case, the policy was a use of Black escalation dominance: Do this or we escalate. Full scale dominance (such as the Blacks had) means that, generally, victory in negotiations can take place at relatively low levels of conflict. The opponent knows better than escalate, as the escalation to any higher rung will simply lead to a more massive loss by the opponent.

    In summary:
    In 1967, the Blacks won a war against the rest of the United States. The Black victory, and the war itself, was not admitted to the general public, but was instead reflected in subsequent actions by the Us Federal and State governments. The Democratic debates we have recently seen, the rejection of White leadership by POC in the Democratic Party, the "open borders", are a public demonstration of this Black victory.
    This is not to say that the Blacks lack allies. The large cities (which use the Black victory to get tax money to support their POC and homeless population) and New England (which use the Black victory to cement their position in academia and industry) are allies, as is California (to the extent that California is anything today). It is to say that the Black are an independent force, much weakened today by competition from other POC, but still a more important block than (say) the White voters, because of the 1967 riots (and their previous actions, of course).

    Once again, I'm surprised by an article on unz.com.

    Counterinsurgency


    1]

    One of the earliest and most influential concepts associated with these efforts was Herman Kahn’s “escalation ladder,†which defined 44 “rungs†on a metaphorical ladder of escalating conflict. The rungs ranged from “sub-crisis maneuvering†to civilization-destroying nuclear exchanges. In between were two dozen distinct levels of escalation beyond the threshold of nuclear use, including such “limited†attacks as non-lethal demonstrative detonations, tactical strikes on military forces, and small-scale attacks on civilians.

    In this context, Kahn also introduced the term “escalation dominance,†which became shorthand for one school of thought in deterrence and nuclear strategy. The idea posits the ability of a state to maintain such a markedly superior position over a rival, across a range of escalation rungs, that its rival will always see further escalation as a losing bet. Such dominance, the thinking goes, serves as the most effective possible deterrent to conflict, as well as the most reliable means for managing escalation if deterrence fails.
    �
    Michael Fitzsimmons.
    "The False Allure of Escalation Dominance".
    LBJ School - The University of Texas at Austin; November 16, 2017.
    https://warontherocks.com/2017/11/false-allure-escalation-dominance/
    Original document contains links to Kahn's original "escalation ladder". This reference should not be construed as an endorsement of Fitzsimons' entire article.

    2] Remember that dominance is defined as a _mental_ condition, existing in the minds of both parties. For example, the US could physically have used nuclear weapons to destroy any Black riot, but was _unwilling_ to do so, and in fact was _unwilling_ to rely on even the conventional troop deployments that had, in fact, contained the riot. The US had _physical_ superiority, but did not have dominance.
    This is a fundamental part of negotiations. Dominance, once established, tends to persist even when the physical ability to destroy has been lost -- consider influence of Blacks in now largely Hispanic California, even after 1992 riots required non-Black media intervention to begin and after Blacks have been forced out of large areas of residence and employment by Hispanics.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @Plus ça change......, @JRM, @Robert Dolan

    Blacks have ZERO agency but what they get from the jews.

    Blacks have no dominance of any kind.

    Blacks (and ALL non-whites) are simply tools of the nose to wreck western civilization.

  • Truth says:
    @Mike Tre
    Excellent article, and the first 20 or so comments are very good as well.

    After that... well, then all the dirtbags start waking up from their previous night of meth smoking and furniture polish drinking and presto chango: The discussion nose-dives by way of the usual dim witted assortment of non African POC's, with their lies and revisionist histories, then the negros show up and start ebonicking on about dindo this or dindo that, and then the best of them all arrive: The self hating whites who's entire shtick around here is to, once they put their clown nose on, morally equivocate, remove all agency and accountability from other races, completely avoid and or ignore all relevant data, and mostly just worship the myth of the negro's "equipment."

    I would bet that all of the self hating whites here belong to one of two extremes: They have actually never interacted with a negro in their entire life, or they have 3 or 4 kids with 2-3 different negros.

    Replies: @Truth

    I would bet that all of the self hating whites here belong to one of two extremes: They have actually never interacted with a negro in their entire life, or they have 3 or 4 kids with 2-3 different negros.

    Well then I guess that leaves somewhere between zero and one self-hating whites here. Congratulations Rabbi Mordechai.

  • @Pheasant
    @Truth

    Truth you really have to stop with these devastating in depth rebuttals... please we just cant take it🙄

    Replies: @Truth

    Hey, hey, I just flew in from Dayton, and boy are my arms tired… because I didn’t land till Connor Betts ran out of ammo…


    Video Link

  • @Alden
    @Anon

    Unless for vacations, or if they live in the border, learning Spanish isn’t worthwhile for Americans.
    Most of the Hispanics speak only limited Spanish as they are Indians from Indian areas of Mexico and Central America. Very few immigrants come from the continent of South America except the wealthy who have vacation homes in Miami.

    Mexico is in North America. Central America is an isthmus between north and South America.

    Most of the Hispanics speak their Indian language as a first language and about 100 words of Spanish.

    Many slaughter houses canning plants commercial laundries janitor and gardening companies need Spanish to Indian translator supervisors to communicate with the Indian speaking workforce.

    That’s one of the reasons bilingual education is a failure and was dropped . Spanish was as much a foreign language to the Hispanic kids as it was to the Americans. And having IQs a good 15-20 points lower than the White Americans, it was much harder for them to learn Spanish.

    Most private and many of the better preforming public schools teach Mandarin now .

    Canadian and American boarding schools are full of South American kids whose parents want them to learn perfect English. Most of them went to bi lingual English Spanish private grade schools.

    When the upper and middle classes of Hispanic America are taught English from 1st grade in, why should Americans learn standard Spanish? The Hispanic immigrants from Mexico and Central America don’t speak Spanish but Indian languages and various limited dialects.

    Another comment from someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about and doesn’t even know that America doesn’t get immigrants from South America but Central America and Mexico.

    Or doesn’t even know that Spanish speaking America is spread over 3 continents.

    Replies: @Sam Coulton, @Montefrío, @Anon, @Truth

    Unless for vacations, or if they live in the border, learning Spanish isn’t worthwhile for Americans.
    Most of the Hispanics speak only limited Spanish as they are Indians from Indian areas of Mexico and Central America.

    (Rolls eyes…) Welcome back, Aldey: To 1964.

  • @Ilyana_Rozumova
    @anon

    Thank you! You are giving me tremendous confidence. Now I do feel that I am just as smart as Jefferson.
    (Just kidding)

    Replies: @Truth

    Now I do feel that I am just as smart as Jefferson.

    George?

  • @Bookish1
    The real America ended in 1945

    Replies: @Desert Fox, @Gentle Hysteric

    I would say in 1913 when the zionist banking kabal fastened their FED and IRS on America.

  • @Counterinsurgency
    This article explains quite a few incidents that had puzzled me.

    Contemporary media coverage (which i read at the time, being in Manhattan during the riots) spoke of nothing but massive over-reaction to tumultuous but harmless mobs of Black people who were only protesting intolerable living conditions. Supposedly, frightened and poorly trained US troops massively over-reacted, using 50 caliber rounds where a riot like would have sufficed, and that's all that happened. There was no serious racial threat to Whites, and the Blacks had once again been treated very badly for no reason other than White psychological failures.

    This is apparently not what happened at all.

    What happened was that the Blacks (previously just a voting block) finally established independence backed full scale escalation dominance [1]. Note that it was about this time that NAACP purged its Jewish members from all influential positions.

    The escalation ladder was something like this:
    1) Unfavorable votes by Black representatives.
    2) Unfavorable articles at behest of Black political operatives ("activists").
    3) Picketing
    4) Demonstrations that would block traffic and upset other voting blocks.
    5) Riots
    6) Riots / wide scale destruction

    Note that the Blacks had established (in alliance with New England and New York) absolute dominance on each of the rungs. The 1967 riots were simply a demonstration that Blacks dominated rung 6 _independently of their allies_. The 1992 LA riots actually showed that Black dominance of Rung 6 had weakened in California, as considerable participation by media allies was necessary to start the actual wide scale destruction, but in 1967 Rung 6 Black dominance was absolute[2].

    This explains several observations and incidents that seemed, at the time, not to make sense:
    1) Executive at a major manufacturing industry telling me (as I walked past him to see somebody else) that "American wages are going down to world levels".
    2) Toleration of Black misconduct during and for several years after the Vietnam war. Similar toleration of POC misconduct today.
    3) Reaction of various business executives to merit based promotion: "If you did that, the Blacks would be rioting in the streets".
    4) Ability of Black affirmative action appointees to veto actions by the organizations employing them.
    5) The strange impression one gets from politicians and corporate leaders that they have lost everything, but believe that if they just don't tell you, you won't know.

    In each case, the policy was a use of Black escalation dominance: Do this or we escalate. Full scale dominance (such as the Blacks had) means that, generally, victory in negotiations can take place at relatively low levels of conflict. The opponent knows better than escalate, as the escalation to any higher rung will simply lead to a more massive loss by the opponent.

    In summary:
    In 1967, the Blacks won a war against the rest of the United States. The Black victory, and the war itself, was not admitted to the general public, but was instead reflected in subsequent actions by the Us Federal and State governments. The Democratic debates we have recently seen, the rejection of White leadership by POC in the Democratic Party, the "open borders", are a public demonstration of this Black victory.
    This is not to say that the Blacks lack allies. The large cities (which use the Black victory to get tax money to support their POC and homeless population) and New England (which use the Black victory to cement their position in academia and industry) are allies, as is California (to the extent that California is anything today). It is to say that the Black are an independent force, much weakened today by competition from other POC, but still a more important block than (say) the White voters, because of the 1967 riots (and their previous actions, of course).

    Once again, I'm surprised by an article on unz.com.

    Counterinsurgency


    1]

    One of the earliest and most influential concepts associated with these efforts was Herman Kahn’s “escalation ladder,†which defined 44 “rungs†on a metaphorical ladder of escalating conflict. The rungs ranged from “sub-crisis maneuvering†to civilization-destroying nuclear exchanges. In between were two dozen distinct levels of escalation beyond the threshold of nuclear use, including such “limited†attacks as non-lethal demonstrative detonations, tactical strikes on military forces, and small-scale attacks on civilians.

    In this context, Kahn also introduced the term “escalation dominance,†which became shorthand for one school of thought in deterrence and nuclear strategy. The idea posits the ability of a state to maintain such a markedly superior position over a rival, across a range of escalation rungs, that its rival will always see further escalation as a losing bet. Such dominance, the thinking goes, serves as the most effective possible deterrent to conflict, as well as the most reliable means for managing escalation if deterrence fails.
    �
    Michael Fitzsimmons.
    "The False Allure of Escalation Dominance".
    LBJ School - The University of Texas at Austin; November 16, 2017.
    https://warontherocks.com/2017/11/false-allure-escalation-dominance/
    Original document contains links to Kahn's original "escalation ladder". This reference should not be construed as an endorsement of Fitzsimons' entire article.

    2] Remember that dominance is defined as a _mental_ condition, existing in the minds of both parties. For example, the US could physically have used nuclear weapons to destroy any Black riot, but was _unwilling_ to do so, and in fact was _unwilling_ to rely on even the conventional troop deployments that had, in fact, contained the riot. The US had _physical_ superiority, but did not have dominance.
    This is a fundamental part of negotiations. Dominance, once established, tends to persist even when the physical ability to destroy has been lost -- consider influence of Blacks in now largely Hispanic California, even after 1992 riots required non-Black media intervention to begin and after Blacks have been forced out of large areas of residence and employment by Hispanics.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @Plus ça change......, @JRM, @Robert Dolan

    One of the most interesting comments I’ve ever read on a forum. Very convincingly stated. I could read a whole book written along those lines.

  • @By-tor
    @Anon

    The US already has these intermediate missiles ready for testing as they were based on treaty-breaking target drones that were already in inventory. The US will attempt to secret these models into the Mk. 41 launcher tubes at Deveselu, ROM and, by the end of 2020, at its new Redzikowo, POL launcher base. Once launched, they are 10 to 15 minutes flying time to large Russian cities such as St. Petersburg and Rostov. The Russian 500km range Iskander missiles will be aimed at US military puppet capitals and bases in Europe such as Warsaw, POL and Bucharest, ROM. Russian ICBM's will be what the US will receive in a Russian response. The strategy behind the US move is to limit the Russian retaliatory nuclear response with a decapitating first strike. The US military-think tank elite apparently believe they will be able to fight Russia and have the war stay limited to Europe. Putin said last March that any attack on Russia will be met with a nuclear response.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anon, @Ilyana_Rozumova

    What a load of crap, but than what can anybody expect from a Jew.

  • @Anon
    @Counterinsurgency

    Pendejo de los cojones , gilipollas

    Replies: @Counterinsurgency

    Pendejo de los cojones , gilipollas

    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Alden

    And thus we return to Alden’s original comment: it isn’t worthwhile for the average American to learn Spanish. I did, a bit, and look at the sparkling repartee I get above. Justifies every second I spent learning the small bit of the language I learned.

    Counterinsurgency

  • @Plus ça change......
    @Counterinsurgency

    I’m afraid that if I agree with you, we’d both be wrong.
    The political system in USA hasn’t changed for (I cannot recollect how long), and in all of this lays just power and privilege. Both political parties(ecosystems) are controlled by some “invisible†(visible but for all other(practical) reasons shrugged to the side so that it wouldn’t overburden anyone’s gray cells for everyone is used to their “roleâ€(how easy it is to fall in to a comfort zone and how hard to get out of)) influences, a different class all for itself (I would not get myself into the subject). So whoever controls these two political parties would not get into over complicating the system by adding a third wheel but if possible break it down to and dividing it to the already two opposing blocks which would be easier to control.
    Anyway, have a jolly good day.

    Replies: @Counterinsurgency

    So whoever controls these two political parties would not get into over complicating the system by adding a third wheel but if possible break it down to and dividing it to the already two opposing blocks which would be easier to control.

    There is a temptation to believe that somebody, somewhere, knows what is going on and has a plan to deal with it. That human reality is observable and controllable. You might read some of my previous posts concerning the Bolsheviks, a group of smart planners if ever there was one, and their heir, Stalin. They really did out-think the entire West, including Germany, and they they out-executed the entire West. The number of completely obvious things they overlooked is hilarious.

    Nobody knows what’s going on, nobody has a working plan. They’re just treading water, pursuing local optima. Not even in theory is there an algorithm for observing human society, much less controlling it. It’s disillusioning, I know, and it means that some day you’re going to get tagged, unless you die of old age first. If you figure a way out, let me know. I’m interested. Till the, Jordan Peterson seems to have the best tragic view of life available.

    Counterinsurgency

    Counterinsurgency

    •ï¿½Replies: @Plus ça change......
    @Counterinsurgency

    Well, .... a way out? J. Peterson? Neither the way out nor Peterson can help you unless you are an easterner to understand it. You see, Peterson is from a western upbringing (catholic or whatever) so he cannot help you but to help on some level be at peace with the western materialistic ownership and emptiness of soul (how the west lost it’s way is another story).
    Nobody knows what’s going on???? No, nobody dares calling it what it really is!!!
    A preserved ID of the terrorist in a rubble of WTC without any piece of the airplane remaining? What is that an example of if not for a planted fake evidence?
    It’s not that nobody knows what is going on but that nobody understands/ recognizes anything that they see in front of their eyes. It is called neocortical war. And yes, they have a plan for everyone’s mind to be in a state of cognitive dissonance.
    As far as Bolshevik’s and communists, the only country that made a cleanup from them were the East Germans up to a point, but immediately were sucked in the NATO/Western/Gladio system. The rest of the eastern block was allowed for the communists to change flags and call them selves Democrats and socialists or whatever without serving jail time.
    The west doesn’t see beyond fattening their coffers and expects everyone else to follow their model as if it’s the only way worthwhile.

    ..... Plus c’est la même chose.
  • The real America ended in 1945

    •ï¿½Replies: @Desert Fox
    @Bookish1

    I would say in 1913 when the zionist banking kabal fastened their FED and IRS on America.
    , @Gentle Hysteric
    @Bookish1


    The real America ended in 1945

    �
    Ha! The year I was born. No connection, I trust.

    The first 15 years of my life, America was at its best. Far from perfect, but still a country one could be proud to be a citizen of.

    I miss it. Now, despite having a U.S. passport, I have no country.
  • @Thomm
    I find it revealing (but not the least bit surprising) that the shooters in both El Paso and Dayton were White Trashionalists with extreme left-wing economic views.

    They were supporters of Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, not Trump.

    Most WNs prefer Bernie Sanders first and foremost. That is evident from the WN commenters here as well.

    Replies: @Commentator Mike, @Anon, @Hippopotamusdrome

    extreme left-wing economic views.

    Thomm, you are repetitive in revealing your low IQ understanding of politics. Do it all you wish, but know that’s your sole accomplishment here.

    There is only one thing to bet on: minorities have no long term future living among White people. That separation may play out over the next fifty or over the next two hundred years, but it will play out. Whites will be better for that separation and minorities will be worse for it assuming that they survive it. If being better off is trashy in your estimation, then so be it.

  • Anon[204] •ï¿½Disclaimer says:
    @TheJewishQuestion
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Agreed. A person can belong to one race, yet be socially and intellectually aligned to another culture. Individuals of an alien race can and occasionally do cross the cultural divide to another civilization (race) when they are willing to change and adapt to the new culture, and the host race is willing to accept and overlook obvious differences. This is easier if done at an early age and where the numbers of foreigners are small, so that the host race does not feel overwhelmed, and the aliens do not assert themselves in a threatening manner. Thus one culture does effectively die out as another one prevails.
    Most multicultural/racial societies have been dominated by one group, or become balkanized and disintegrated.

    Replies: @Anon

    Agreed. A person can belong to one race, yet be socially and intellectually aligned to another culture.

    I disagree. Though, it depends on what culture we are speaking of. The better races will have cultures for which their is a behavioral and cognitive barrier to entry that is largely determined by racially conferred ability. For example, no African is going to be able to ape the cognitive processes that are the foundation of German social culture. They aren’t going to have the emotional responses, control, nor judgement to integrate.

    the host race is willing to accept and overlook obvious differences.

    Well, there it is. There will be differences. And many of us believe cultures shouldn’t have to overlook differences, essentially changing their culture and probably for the worse in most instances.

  • Mike Tre [AKA "MikeatMikedotMike"] says:

    Excellent article, and the first 20 or so comments are very good as well.

    After that… well, then all the dirtbags start waking up from their previous night of meth smoking and furniture polish drinking and presto chango: The discussion nose-dives by way of the usual dim witted assortment of non African POC’s, with their lies and revisionist histories, then the negros show up and start ebonicking on about dindo this or dindo that, and then the best of them all arrive: The self hating whites who’s entire shtick around here is to, once they put their clown nose on, morally equivocate, remove all agency and accountability from other races, completely avoid and or ignore all relevant data, and mostly just worship the myth of the negro’s “equipment.”

    I would bet that all of the self hating whites here belong to one of two extremes: They have actually never interacted with a negro in their entire life, or they have 3 or 4 kids with 2-3 different negros.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Truth
    @Mike Tre


    I would bet that all of the self hating whites here belong to one of two extremes: They have actually never interacted with a negro in their entire life, or they have 3 or 4 kids with 2-3 different negros.
    �
    Well then I guess that leaves somewhere between zero and one self-hating whites here. Congratulations Rabbi Mordechai.
  • @Dr. X
    The problem with the Race War of the 1960s is that whites lost -- or, more accurately, surrendered.

    Today, no segment of the population is more cosseted than blacks. Blacks are given unconstitutional preferences over whites in both the public and private sectors. Negro worship has become the de facto official state religion. Popular culture is almost entirely Negrified. Whites dress, speak, and copulate as if they were Negroes. They denounce their own heritage and the world-changing achievements of their race, while inventing fairy tales of black achievement and featuring unrealistic portrayals of blacks in advertising propaganda.

    Yet, Negro-occupied cities remain violent slums, and presidential candidates openly campaign on taking money from whites and awarding it to blacks as "reparations" for slavery.

    Why, whites, have you allowed this to happen?

    Replies: @anarchyst, @Jacques Sheete, @anonymous, @Joseph Doaks

    Women’s suffrage, feminism, feelings…

  • Mike Tre [AKA "MikeatMikedotMike"] says:
    @Bertrand Muscle
    "If white people had a country of their own, none of this would have been necessary" Perhaps if after stealing the land from the native Americans, the "whites" shouldn't have shipped in all those Africans. The author alternatively denigrates "blacks" at many levels and then in contradiction complains of their outsized power. So the dumb minority is pushing around the meek, but more clever Europeans? Not logical.

    Replies: @davidgmillsatty, @Mike Tre

    “Perhaps if after stealing the land from the native Americans, the “whites†shouldn’t have shipped in all those Africans.”

    Oh aren’t you so cute with your kindergarten fairy tails!

  • Mike Tre [AKA "MikeatMikedotMike"] says:
    @George
    "The Vietnam War did have an impact on American culture, but not nearly as much as, say, the US Civil War, or even the Spanish-American War of 1898."

    What was the Civil War's effect on American culture? The only important legacies were the income tax, Jim Crow and Universal Public School education, which might have happened anyway. The people really screwed by the Civil War were actually American Indians, who might have gotten a way better deal were it not for the Civil War.

    "The Vietnam War ... American culture" Vietnam was really part of a global event, trying to isolate it's effect from events elsewhere, most notably Vietnam itself, is shoddy reasoning.

    "MLK was not a genius & civil disobedience isn’t civil" MLK was a martyr, genius I won't comment on. Beyond Vietnam is in terms of rhetoric equivalent to the best of Lincoln's work and the only important commentary from MLK. Lincoln was more prolific but lived a longer life than MLK. MLK was assassinated for his anti war stance, so characterizing him as a civil rights leader shows you don't understand the issue.

    Beyond Vietnam:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qf6x9_MLD0

    Replies: @Republic, @Mike Tre

    “What was the Civil War’s effect on American culture? The only important legacies were the income tax, Jim Crow and Universal Public School education, which might have happened anyway. The people really screwed by the Civil War were actually American Indians, who might have gotten a way better deal were it not for the Civil War. ”

    Oh yes, nevermind the 850,000 dead Americans. No impact at all!

  • @John Noughty
    @Sam Coulton

    Why is the Nepalese IQ so low?

    Replies: @Sam Coulton

    Possibly oxygen deprivation + a lotta car exhaust in the cities. Also limited and inadequate samples.

  • Anon[354] •ï¿½Disclaimer says:
    @By-tor
    @Anon

    The US already has these intermediate missiles ready for testing as they were based on treaty-breaking target drones that were already in inventory. The US will attempt to secret these models into the Mk. 41 launcher tubes at Deveselu, ROM and, by the end of 2020, at its new Redzikowo, POL launcher base. Once launched, they are 10 to 15 minutes flying time to large Russian cities such as St. Petersburg and Rostov. The Russian 500km range Iskander missiles will be aimed at US military puppet capitals and bases in Europe such as Warsaw, POL and Bucharest, ROM. Russian ICBM's will be what the US will receive in a Russian response. The strategy behind the US move is to limit the Russian retaliatory nuclear response with a decapitating first strike. The US military-think tank elite apparently believe they will be able to fight Russia and have the war stay limited to Europe. Putin said last March that any attack on Russia will be met with a nuclear response.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anon, @Ilyana_Rozumova

    The US military think tank elite is Jewish supervised.

    The Jewish books call for the outright destruction of the United States and Europe, as supposed continuations of Rome, so that the Jews can inherit the Earth. See Zohar Shemot 32a.

    https://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/1391003/jewish/Daily-Zohar-Vaeira-Day-5.htm

    [MORE]

    We were forbidden to march past Berlin to take Moscow, thus leaving Russia as a fatal threat.

    It makes sense that we are being pushed into a war that we are scripted to lose.

    The parallel immorality of Jewish supervised Europe and the United States will religiously condemn it to that loss in the context of the Jewish books.

    In contrast, communist Russia’s supposedly renewed modern Christian family values, which is Jewish-communist theater, is setting it up to win that conflict as a vindication of morality at the same time that the Jews realize their win over the West after it is wiped out in the final apocalyptic war with Islam and the East (Russia-China – the twin Judeo-Communist powers).

  • @Ilyana_Rozumova
    I still think that it is not so much race, it is more culture that is incompatible.
    So it is not so much white or black racism. It is that these two cultures simply cannot amalgamate.
    To create unified society one of those cultures must die out.

    Replies: @anon, @Jacques Sheete, @orionyx, @TheJewishQuestion, @MBlanc46

    Agreed. A person can belong to one race, yet be socially and intellectually aligned to another culture. Individuals of an alien race can and occasionally do cross the cultural divide to another civilization (race) when they are willing to change and adapt to the new culture, and the host race is willing to accept and overlook obvious differences. This is easier if done at an early age and where the numbers of foreigners are small, so that the host race does not feel overwhelmed, and the aliens do not assert themselves in a threatening manner. Thus one culture does effectively die out as another one prevails.
    Most multicultural/racial societies have been dominated by one group, or become balkanized and disintegrated.

    •ï¿½Agree: Ilyana_Rozumova
    •ï¿½Replies: @Anon
    @TheJewishQuestion


    Agreed. A person can belong to one race, yet be socially and intellectually aligned to another culture.
    �
    I disagree. Though, it depends on what culture we are speaking of. The better races will have cultures for which their is a behavioral and cognitive barrier to entry that is largely determined by racially conferred ability. For example, no African is going to be able to ape the cognitive processes that are the foundation of German social culture. They aren't going to have the emotional responses, control, nor judgement to integrate.

    the host race is willing to accept and overlook obvious differences.
    �
    Well, there it is. There will be differences. And many of us believe cultures shouldn't have to overlook differences, essentially changing their culture and probably for the worse in most instances.
  • @Robert Dolan
    Hispanics are NOT preferable to blacks.

    Hispanics are every bit as ethnocentric, and they are slightly more intelligent.

    They hate white people just as much as the blacks do. I worked with both groups. The blacks tried to guilt me over slavery, the Hispanics said I stole their land.

    Why so many here love the mexicans I do not understand.

    The jews have weaponized ALL of the non-whites against us, and they brought them in to usher in communism.

    The Great Replacement is real.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Malla, @Republic

    Why so many here love the mexicans I do not understand

    The commentators in this post are not reflective of the overall opinion of Unz readers regarding the great cultural /economic harm of the Mexican invaders. The blacks have been contained due to their very high abortion rate,but the Mexicans breed like rabbits.

  • @Thomm
    I find it revealing (but not the least bit surprising) that the shooters in both El Paso and Dayton were White Trashionalists with extreme left-wing economic views.

    They were supporters of Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, not Trump.

    Most WNs prefer Bernie Sanders first and foremost. That is evident from the WN commenters here as well.

    Replies: @Commentator Mike, @Anon, @Hippopotamusdrome

    And you are for maximum profits and hence the cheapest possible quasi slave immigrant labour only. And zero employment and no welfare nor health care for whites. Great system you promote.

  • Malla says:
    @Robert Dolan
    Hispanics are NOT preferable to blacks.

    Hispanics are every bit as ethnocentric, and they are slightly more intelligent.

    They hate white people just as much as the blacks do. I worked with both groups. The blacks tried to guilt me over slavery, the Hispanics said I stole their land.

    Why so many here love the mexicans I do not understand.

    The jews have weaponized ALL of the non-whites against us, and they brought them in to usher in communism.

    The Great Replacement is real.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Malla, @Republic

    The jews have weaponized ALL of the non-whites against us, and they brought them in to usher in communism.

    Yup that is the game all along. Eventually Communism will be enforced upon the entire World when the NWO One World Govt comes out. Except maybe the ruling state of Greater Israel.
    Not only is communism a good ideology to control a society and to create rootless automon workers, it satisfies one of the key beliefs in Judaism. That we Goyim are cattle and thus all our properties and things we own do not belong to us but to the Jews. After all, does your cattle get to own the cow shed? To have property rights? No. Same for the Goyim.
    In the coming NWO Communism, everything from your underwear to your house will be owned by the state. You own nothing not even your bodies.
    “But Aha”, says the idiot, “but we the people own the State”. Only a idiot can fall for some drivel that in communist countries the common man owns the state.
    In the future Communist Orwellian One World government, the State will own everything and Greater Israel will own this Communist World State. Thus the holy jews will own everything and goyim like cattle will own nothing. Thus this element of Judaism will be satisfied by Communism.
    A future one world with communism, full of rootless, soulless, raceless, brown, gender fluid people. That is what is coming.
    The USSR was one preliminary attempt in Communism that most probably went wrong. People’s Republic of China is an experiment in Corporate Communism where crony capitalism/big business seamlessly comes together with Marxist State/big Government. Wait…. that is kind off happening in the USA too but in a different way.

    •ï¿½Agree: Robert Dolan
  • @Sam Coulton
    @Alden

    Mexican IQ is, at most, 10 points lower than white Americans, and they speak Spanish (a very simple language) just fine.
    Mexican IQ is, at most, 5 points lower than their southern European ancestors.


    https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1562418126845.jpg

    I see we have here another white woman who failed to breed and who is thus obsessed with Mexican "takeovers" (really just your failure to reproduce).

    Replies: @John Noughty

    Why is the Nepalese IQ so low?

    •ï¿½Replies: @Sam Coulton
    @John Noughty

    Possibly oxygen deprivation + a lotta car exhaust in the cities. Also limited and inadequate samples.
  • @George
    "The Vietnam War did have an impact on American culture, but not nearly as much as, say, the US Civil War, or even the Spanish-American War of 1898."

    What was the Civil War's effect on American culture? The only important legacies were the income tax, Jim Crow and Universal Public School education, which might have happened anyway. The people really screwed by the Civil War were actually American Indians, who might have gotten a way better deal were it not for the Civil War.

    "The Vietnam War ... American culture" Vietnam was really part of a global event, trying to isolate it's effect from events elsewhere, most notably Vietnam itself, is shoddy reasoning.

    "MLK was not a genius & civil disobedience isn’t civil" MLK was a martyr, genius I won't comment on. Beyond Vietnam is in terms of rhetoric equivalent to the best of Lincoln's work and the only important commentary from MLK. Lincoln was more prolific but lived a longer life than MLK. MLK was assassinated for his anti war stance, so characterizing him as a civil rights leader shows you don't understand the issue.

    Beyond Vietnam:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qf6x9_MLD0

    Replies: @Republic, @Mike Tre

    That was his famous Riverside Church speech that directly lead to his assassination by the deep state

  • @Digital Samizdat

    ... 9/11, an incident caused by Third Word immigrants.
    �
    Uh, not exactly. Stick around Unz.com and you'll get religion on that issue.

    Other than that, a very good article. I do so miss having a White society where we could be honest about all this stuff. Good work, Morris!

    Replies: @El Dato, @Jonathan Revusky, @homahr, @Parsnipitous, @BengaliCanadianDude

    Of course, but this is marginal to the article.

    I no longer pay attention to public figures (pols, academics, writers, etc.) mouthing the required platitudes. The 9/11 mainstream is falling apart as we breathe, but it’s still too annoying as a public figure to go into those side debates.

    The author may believe the official 9/11 lie or he may be tactical about it – small difference in the end, given the topic at hand.

  • This is a very important article, and very well put. Given my shaky knowledge of recent American history, I can’t myself ascertain its main thesis, but I will certainly keep it in mind.

    The main point seems to be that by the mid 60s, the white mainstream was in the process of detaching from what is still the ruling narrative: black oppression and basic virtue. The detachment occurred surreptitiously, i.e. without formal declarations, but substantially, i.e. voting with one’s feet and ignoring mediated reality.

    The cause for detaching is the same as today: black dysfunction and media mendacity.

  • horni says: •ï¿½Website

    I think the riots of 1968 were mostly confined to the larger cities. Small cities and towns were not greatly affected. In my city in Florida (one of the larger), I was called up by the Nat. Guard. We were posted on street corners in the Black section of town; one guardsman and one policeman on every corner. There were rumors of some small fires and possible shots fired but I never saw any. After about 3 days we were sent home and it was over.
    One interesting item is that in those days we were given live ammo. Our instructions were to fire back only if we were fired upon. That was it. I don’t think it is that way today.

  • Kronos says:

    “A Nation on Fire is the first mainstream book on the “civil rights†movement that I’ve read that even gets close to hinting that the Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, Jr. was not the saintly genius that the mainstream media made him out to be.â€

    Are there any other books that come to mind?

  • Cyrano says:

    I’ve come to see that the mainstream historical narrative of the 1960s is unique in how incorrect the conventional understanding of it is

    The whole mess that the US is currently in, came as a result of the 60’s. The US elites overestimated the revolutionary potential of the hippies and the civil rights movement.

    Basically, the US elites panicked, they thought that they are facing a perfect storm of the civil rights movement, anti-Vietnam war protests and the hippie movement, which they thought might result in a socialist revolution.

    So in order to combat the civil rights movement – the US elites invented the civil lefts movement – multiculturalism, and thus their reply to the civil rights movement became the civil wrongs movement.

    Multiculturalism was the bright idea of the US elites to plagiarize socialism -with all its talks about equality and to introduce a limited edition equality – limited basically to just racial “equality†– sans the all-important economic equality.

    That’s what happens when you try to play smart. The limited edition socialism (otherwise known as multiculturalism) will end up doing far more damage to US than if they tried to introduce some real socialist measures which would have brought some real equality instead of a phony one.

  • @By-tor
    @Anon

    The US already has these intermediate missiles ready for testing as they were based on treaty-breaking target drones that were already in inventory. The US will attempt to secret these models into the Mk. 41 launcher tubes at Deveselu, ROM and, by the end of 2020, at its new Redzikowo, POL launcher base. Once launched, they are 10 to 15 minutes flying time to large Russian cities such as St. Petersburg and Rostov. The Russian 500km range Iskander missiles will be aimed at US military puppet capitals and bases in Europe such as Warsaw, POL and Bucharest, ROM. Russian ICBM's will be what the US will receive in a Russian response. The strategy behind the US move is to limit the Russian retaliatory nuclear response with a decapitating first strike. The US military-think tank elite apparently believe they will be able to fight Russia and have the war stay limited to Europe. Putin said last March that any attack on Russia will be met with a nuclear response.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anon, @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Thank you . So Europe will be desestabilized , the europeans are not going to like it . We all be at the brink of a total , and final , war .

  • @Counterinsurgency
    @Anon

    Por alma de dios, no mas de este toanteria!

    Counterinsurgency

    Replies: @Anon

    Pendejo de los cojones , gilipollas

    •ï¿½Replies: @Counterinsurgency
    @Anon


    Pendejo de los cojones , gilipollas
    �
    https://www.unz.com/comments/all/?commenterfilter=Alden

    And thus we return to Alden's original comment: it isn't worthwhile for the average American to learn Spanish. I did, a bit, and look at the sparkling repartee I get above. Justifies every second I spent learning the small bit of the language I learned.

    Counterinsurgency
  • @Counterinsurgency
    This article explains quite a few incidents that had puzzled me.

    Contemporary media coverage (which i read at the time, being in Manhattan during the riots) spoke of nothing but massive over-reaction to tumultuous but harmless mobs of Black people who were only protesting intolerable living conditions. Supposedly, frightened and poorly trained US troops massively over-reacted, using 50 caliber rounds where a riot like would have sufficed, and that's all that happened. There was no serious racial threat to Whites, and the Blacks had once again been treated very badly for no reason other than White psychological failures.

    This is apparently not what happened at all.

    What happened was that the Blacks (previously just a voting block) finally established independence backed full scale escalation dominance [1]. Note that it was about this time that NAACP purged its Jewish members from all influential positions.

    The escalation ladder was something like this:
    1) Unfavorable votes by Black representatives.
    2) Unfavorable articles at behest of Black political operatives ("activists").
    3) Picketing
    4) Demonstrations that would block traffic and upset other voting blocks.
    5) Riots
    6) Riots / wide scale destruction

    Note that the Blacks had established (in alliance with New England and New York) absolute dominance on each of the rungs. The 1967 riots were simply a demonstration that Blacks dominated rung 6 _independently of their allies_. The 1992 LA riots actually showed that Black dominance of Rung 6 had weakened in California, as considerable participation by media allies was necessary to start the actual wide scale destruction, but in 1967 Rung 6 Black dominance was absolute[2].

    This explains several observations and incidents that seemed, at the time, not to make sense:
    1) Executive at a major manufacturing industry telling me (as I walked past him to see somebody else) that "American wages are going down to world levels".
    2) Toleration of Black misconduct during and for several years after the Vietnam war. Similar toleration of POC misconduct today.
    3) Reaction of various business executives to merit based promotion: "If you did that, the Blacks would be rioting in the streets".
    4) Ability of Black affirmative action appointees to veto actions by the organizations employing them.
    5) The strange impression one gets from politicians and corporate leaders that they have lost everything, but believe that if they just don't tell you, you won't know.

    In each case, the policy was a use of Black escalation dominance: Do this or we escalate. Full scale dominance (such as the Blacks had) means that, generally, victory in negotiations can take place at relatively low levels of conflict. The opponent knows better than escalate, as the escalation to any higher rung will simply lead to a more massive loss by the opponent.

    In summary:
    In 1967, the Blacks won a war against the rest of the United States. The Black victory, and the war itself, was not admitted to the general public, but was instead reflected in subsequent actions by the Us Federal and State governments. The Democratic debates we have recently seen, the rejection of White leadership by POC in the Democratic Party, the "open borders", are a public demonstration of this Black victory.
    This is not to say that the Blacks lack allies. The large cities (which use the Black victory to get tax money to support their POC and homeless population) and New England (which use the Black victory to cement their position in academia and industry) are allies, as is California (to the extent that California is anything today). It is to say that the Black are an independent force, much weakened today by competition from other POC, but still a more important block than (say) the White voters, because of the 1967 riots (and their previous actions, of course).

    Once again, I'm surprised by an article on unz.com.

    Counterinsurgency


    1]

    One of the earliest and most influential concepts associated with these efforts was Herman Kahn’s “escalation ladder,†which defined 44 “rungs†on a metaphorical ladder of escalating conflict. The rungs ranged from “sub-crisis maneuvering†to civilization-destroying nuclear exchanges. In between were two dozen distinct levels of escalation beyond the threshold of nuclear use, including such “limited†attacks as non-lethal demonstrative detonations, tactical strikes on military forces, and small-scale attacks on civilians.

    In this context, Kahn also introduced the term “escalation dominance,†which became shorthand for one school of thought in deterrence and nuclear strategy. The idea posits the ability of a state to maintain such a markedly superior position over a rival, across a range of escalation rungs, that its rival will always see further escalation as a losing bet. Such dominance, the thinking goes, serves as the most effective possible deterrent to conflict, as well as the most reliable means for managing escalation if deterrence fails.
    �
    Michael Fitzsimmons.
    "The False Allure of Escalation Dominance".
    LBJ School - The University of Texas at Austin; November 16, 2017.
    https://warontherocks.com/2017/11/false-allure-escalation-dominance/
    Original document contains links to Kahn's original "escalation ladder". This reference should not be construed as an endorsement of Fitzsimons' entire article.

    2] Remember that dominance is defined as a _mental_ condition, existing in the minds of both parties. For example, the US could physically have used nuclear weapons to destroy any Black riot, but was _unwilling_ to do so, and in fact was _unwilling_ to rely on even the conventional troop deployments that had, in fact, contained the riot. The US had _physical_ superiority, but did not have dominance.
    This is a fundamental part of negotiations. Dominance, once established, tends to persist even when the physical ability to destroy has been lost -- consider influence of Blacks in now largely Hispanic California, even after 1992 riots required non-Black media intervention to begin and after Blacks have been forced out of large areas of residence and employment by Hispanics.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @Plus ça change......, @JRM, @Robert Dolan

    I’m afraid that if I agree with you, we’d both be wrong.
    The political system in USA hasn’t changed for (I cannot recollect how long), and in all of this lays just power and privilege. Both political parties(ecosystems) are controlled by some “invisible†(visible but for all other(practical) reasons shrugged to the side so that it wouldn’t overburden anyone’s gray cells for everyone is used to their “roleâ€(how easy it is to fall in to a comfort zone and how hard to get out of)) influences, a different class all for itself (I would not get myself into the subject). So whoever controls these two political parties would not get into over complicating the system by adding a third wheel but if possible break it down to and dividing it to the already two opposing blocks which would be easier to control.
    Anyway, have a jolly good day.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Counterinsurgency
    @Plus ça change......


    So whoever controls these two political parties would not get into over complicating the system by adding a third wheel but if possible break it down to and dividing it to the already two opposing blocks which would be easier to control.
    �
    There is a temptation to believe that somebody, somewhere, knows what is going on and has a plan to deal with it. That human reality is observable and controllable. You might read some of my previous posts concerning the Bolsheviks, a group of smart planners if ever there was one, and their heir, Stalin. They really did out-think the entire West, including Germany, and they they out-executed the entire West. The number of completely obvious things they overlooked is hilarious.

    Nobody knows what's going on, nobody has a working plan. They're just treading water, pursuing local optima. Not even in theory is there an algorithm for observing human society, much less controlling it. It's disillusioning, I know, and it means that some day you're going to get tagged, unless you die of old age first. If you figure a way out, let me know. I'm interested. Till the, Jordan Peterson seems to have the best tragic view of life available.

    Counterinsurgency

    Counterinsurgency

    Replies: @Plus ça change......
  • Huey P. Newton’s Whip — intra party membership requirements were enforced

    https://historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bpp.html

    October 1966 Black Panther Party
    Platform and Program
    What We Want
    What We Believe
    1. We want freedom. We want power to determine the destiny of our Black Community.

    We believe that black people will not be free until we are able to determine our destiny.
    2. We want full employment for our people.

    [MORE]

    We believe that the federal government is responsible and obligated to give every man employment or a guaranteed income. We believe that if the white American businessmen will not give full employment, then the means of production should be taken from the businessmen and placed in the community so that the people of the community can organize and employ all of its people and give a high standard of living.
    3. We want an end to the robbery by the white man of our Black Community.

    We believe that this racist government has robbed us and now we are demanding the overdue debt of forty acres and two mules. Forty acres and two mules was promised 100 years ago as restitution for slave labor and mass murder of black people. We will accept the payment as currency which will be distributed to our many communities. The Germans are now aiding the Jews in Israel for the genocide of the Jewish people. The Germans murdered six million Jews. The American racist has taken part in the slaughter of over twenty million black people; therefore, we feel that this is a modest demand that we make.
    4. We want decent housing, fit for shelter of human beings.

    We believe that if the white landlords will not give decent housing to our black community, then the housing and the land should be made into cooperatives so that our community, with government aid, can build and make decent housing for its people.
    5. We want education for our people that exposes the true nature of this decadent American society. We want education that teaches us our true history and our role in the present-day society.

    We believe in an educational system that will give to our people a knowledge of self. If a man does not have knowledge of himself and his position in society and the world, then he has little chance to relate to anything else.
    6. We want all black men to be exempt from military service.

    We believe that Black people should not be forced to fight in the military service to defend a racist government that does not protect us. We will not fight and kill other people of color in the world who, like black people, are being victimized by the white racist government of America. We will protect ourselves from the force and violence of the racist police and the racist military, by whatever means necessary.
    7. We want an immediate end to police brutality and murder of black people.

    We believe we can end police brutality in our black community by organizing black self-defense groups that are dedicated to defending our black community from racist police oppression and brutality. The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States gives a right to bear arms. We therefore believe that all black people should arm themselves for self defense.
    8. We want freedom for all black men held in federal, state, county and city prisons and jails.

    We believe that all black people should be released from the many jails and prisons because they have not received a fair and impartial trial.
    9. We want all black people when brought to trial to be tried in court by a jury of their peer group or people from their black communities, as defined by the Constitution of the United States.

    We believe that the courts should follow the United States Constitution so that black people will receive fair trials. The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution gives a man a right to be tried by his peer group. A peer is a person from a similar economic, social, religious, geographical, environmental, historical and racial background. To do this the court will be forced to select a jury from the black community from which the black defendant came. We have been, and are being tried by all-white juries that have no understanding of the “average reasoning man” of the black community.
    10. We want land, bread, housing, education, clothing, justice and peace. And as our major political objective, a United Nations-supervised plebiscite to be held throughout the black colony in which only black colonial subjects will be allowed to participate for the purpose of determining the will of black people as to their national destiny.

    When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
    We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly, all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to supper, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariable the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

    Rules of the Black Panther Party
    Every member of the Black Panther Party throughout this country of racist America must abide by these rules as functional members of this party. Central Committee members, Central Staffs, and Local Staffs, including all captains subordinated to either national, state, and local leadership of the Black Panther Party will enforce these rules. Length of suspension or other disciplinary action necessary for violation of these rules will depend on national decisions by national, state or state area, and local committees and staffs where said rule or rules of the Black Panther Party were violated. Every member of the party must know these verbatim by heart. And apply them daily. Each member must report any violation of these rules to their leadership or they are counter-revolutionary and are also subjected to suspension by the Black Panther Party. The rules are:

    1. No party member can have narcotics or weed in his possession while doing party work.

    2. Any part member found shooting narcotics will be expelled from this party.

    3. No party member can be drunk while doing daily party work.

    4. No party member will violate rules relating to office work, general meetings of the Black Panther Party, and meetings of the Black Panther Party anywhere.

    5. No party member will use, point, or fire a weapon of any kind unnecessarily or accidentally at anyone.

    6. No party member can join any other army force, other than the Black Liberation Army.

    7. No party member can have a weapon in his possession while drunk or loaded off narcotics or weed.

    8. No party member will commit any crimes against other party members or black people at all, and cannot steal or take from the people, not even a needle or a piece of thread.

    9. When arrested Black Panther members will give only name, address, and will sign nothing. Legal first aid must be understood by all Party members.

    10. The Ten-Point Program and platform of the Black Panther Party must be known and understood by each Party member.

    11. Party Communications must be National and Local.

    12. The 10-10-10-program should be known by all members and also understood by all members.

    13. All Finance officers will operate under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Finance.

    14. Each person will submit a report of daily work.

    15. Each Sub-Section Leaders, Section Leaders, and Lieutenants, Captains must submit Daily reports of work.

    16. All Panthers must learn to operate and service weapons correctly.

    17. All Leaders who expel a member must submit this information to the Editor of the Newspaper, so that it will be published in the paper and will be known by all chapters and branches.

    18. Political Education Classes are mandatory for general membership.

    19. Only office personnel assigned to respective offices each day should be there. All others are to sell papers and do Political work out in the community, including Captain, Section Leaders, etc.

    20. Communications–all chapters must submit weekly reports in writing to the National Headquarters.

    21. All Branches must implement First Aid and/or Medical Cadres.

    22. All Chapters, Branches, and components of the Black Panther Party must submit a monthly Financial Report to the Ministry of Finance, and also the Central Committee.

    23. Everyone in a leadership position must read no less than two hours per day to keep abreast of the changing political situation.

    24. No chapter or branch shall accept grants, poverty funds, money or any other aid from any government agency without contacting the National Headquarters.

    25. All chapters must adhere to the policy and the ideology laid down by the Central Committee of the Black Panther Party.

    26. All Branches must submit weekly reports in writing to their respective Chapters.

    The Whip

    8 Points of Attention
    Speak politely.
    Pay fairly for what you buy.
    Return everything you borrow.
    Pay for anything you damage.
    Do not hit or swear at people.
    Do not damage property or crops of the poor, oppressed masses.
    Do not take liberties with women.
    If we ever have to take captives do not ill-treat them.
    3 Main Rules of Discipline
    Obey orders in all your actions.
    Do not take a single needle or piece of thread from the poor and oppressed masses.
    Turn in everything captured from the attacking enemy.

  • By-tor says:
    @Anon
    While a few disgraceful balaseras rattle the nerves of the USA and a good part of her friends and foes, the US Government announces a withdawal from the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty INF . I don`t understand well what it means , but it seems that there will be more and more intermediate range atomic missils aiming at everyone , missils galore , maybe they will sell them in the gun shops of the wild west .......

    Replies: @By-tor

    The US already has these intermediate missiles ready for testing as they were based on treaty-breaking target drones that were already in inventory. The US will attempt to secret these models into the Mk. 41 launcher tubes at Deveselu, ROM and, by the end of 2020, at its new Redzikowo, POL launcher base. Once launched, they are 10 to 15 minutes flying time to large Russian cities such as St. Petersburg and Rostov. The Russian 500km range Iskander missiles will be aimed at US military puppet capitals and bases in Europe such as Warsaw, POL and Bucharest, ROM. Russian ICBM’s will be what the US will receive in a Russian response. The strategy behind the US move is to limit the Russian retaliatory nuclear response with a decapitating first strike. The US military-think tank elite apparently believe they will be able to fight Russia and have the war stay limited to Europe. Putin said last March that any attack on Russia will be met with a nuclear response.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Anon
    @By-tor

    Thank you . So Europe will be desestabilized , the europeans are not going to like it . We all be at the brink of a total , and final , war .
    , @Anon
    @By-tor

    The US military think tank elite is Jewish supervised.

    The Jewish books call for the outright destruction of the United States and Europe, as supposed continuations of Rome, so that the Jews can inherit the Earth. See Zohar Shemot 32a.

    https://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/1391003/jewish/Daily-Zohar-Vaeira-Day-5.htm

    We were forbidden to march past Berlin to take Moscow, thus leaving Russia as a fatal threat.

    It makes sense that we are being pushed into a war that we are scripted to lose.

    The parallel immorality of Jewish supervised Europe and the United States will religiously condemn it to that loss in the context of the Jewish books.

    In contrast, communist Russia's supposedly renewed modern Christian family values, which is Jewish-communist theater, is setting it up to win that conflict as a vindication of morality at the same time that the Jews realize their win over the West after it is wiped out in the final apocalyptic war with Islam and the East (Russia-China - the twin Judeo-Communist powers).
    , @Ilyana_Rozumova
    @By-tor

    What a load of crap, but than what can anybody expect from a Jew.
  • @Anon
    @Moi

    Many countries of America already speak Spanish , from Mexico to Argentina .

    The USA is a part of America , is not all America . Spanish was spoken in the present territory of the USA before than English . And the native indians were in America long before the europeans arrived .

    If in other countries we learn English , why the US can not learn other languages ? ,is good for the brain .

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @Alden, @Montefrío, @Counterinsurgency

    Por alma de dios, no mas de este toanteria!

    Counterinsurgency

    •ï¿½Replies: @Anon
    @Counterinsurgency

    Pendejo de los cojones , gilipollas

    Replies: @Counterinsurgency
  • Robert H. Burt says: •ï¿½Website

    Our lives are short. Biology is long. Our species is still in its early stages. Many problems which now seem impossible to resolve will be resolved in due time. Race is a valid concept. Am I a racist? Absolutely. Does that mean I perceive individuals of other genetic groups as inferior and that therefore I need to dominate them? No it doesn’t. Nonetheless I do not need to deny my own needs and lie to myself and pretend it is appropriate for other genetic groups to have dominion over me. I have worked with and for human individuals of many different genetic groups for many years. There are individuals of every group that I respect and admire and like, and some of every group that it seems clear to me the world would be a better place without. The process of biological evolution will resolve every one of these issues by means of its own dynamics. It isn’t necessary that I do nothing. But I also don’t need to do anything daring, or decisive, or all-encompassing to try and bring about the ultimate state of things, which, simply given enough time, will eventuate correctly as legitimate outcomes of the real nature and character of these realities themselves.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Richard B
    @Robert H. Burt

    "Our lives are short. Biology is long. Our species is still in its early stages. Many problems which now seem impossible to resolve will be resolved in due time. Race is a valid concept. Am I a racist? Absolutely. Does that mean I perceive individuals of other genetic groups as inferior and that therefore I need to dominate them? No it doesn’t."

    But it does to them. And because it does

    they will never listen to you

    they will never let you have any political power

    they will and are doing everything they can to make sure you and yours have no future

    What social institution today will allow you to say in public what you wrote in your comment?

    Educational Institutions? No!

    Government Institutions? No!

    Economic Institutions? No!

    They will brand you a "White Supremacist" and you'll be finished, or worse.

    Your comment might make sense to itself. But it has no bearing on reality.

    You declare as a fact that human beings are capable of perfect adaptation.

    You don't even assume it, or suggest it. You just state it as fact without offering any proof. Which, of course, you can't because there is no proof.

    Comments like yours, written mind you at a time when we have more precise knowledge of ourselves than ever before (that's quantity and quality of knowledge), is one of the many reasons why

    we shouldn't laugh at the dinosaurs for getting themselves extinct.

    After all, they were around a lot longer than we've been so far.


    The fact is, human beings seem to be doing everything they can to prove to themselves that they're a biologically maladaptive species.

    But, of course, whether we are or not will only be known when there are no human beings to know it.

    So, until then, we shouldn't assume we're capable of perfect adaptation.

    Instead, we should be doing all we can to improve our chances of survival.

    But we're not.
  • @Ilyana_Rozumova
    @orionyx

    Volume is definitely the deciding factor. Once the volume of foreign culture reached certain magnitude, than the members of the foreign culture do not find it necessary to accept the assimilation into native culture. In US both foreign cultures negroid and Hispanics did reach that level.
    And so it is double trouble for US.

    Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova, @RadicalCenter

    Behavior patterns are significant part of culture. The Blacks were not even able to adopt that part of white culture. That is why Blacks do have such a great problems with police.

  • @orionyx
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Culture is a product of race, and doesn't exist independently of real people - who are typically members of a real race. So while it's true that two cultures can and often do apparently compete till one is extinguished, it's not the cultures that compete, but the culture bearers. Ergo, the culture bearers extinguish or are extinguished.
    Which part of that equation do you want to be on?

    Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Volume is definitely the deciding factor. Once the volume of foreign culture reached certain magnitude, than the members of the foreign culture do not find it necessary to accept the assimilation into native culture. In US both foreign cultures negroid and Hispanics did reach that level.
    And so it is double trouble for US.

    •ï¿½Replies: @Ilyana_Rozumova
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Behavior patterns are significant part of culture. The Blacks were not even able to adopt that part of white culture. That is why Blacks do have such a great problems with police.
    , @RadicalCenter
    @Ilyana_Rozumova

    Well said, Ilyana.
  • @Agent76
    May 1, 2015 #BlackSpring in “BALTIMORE" from the forthcoming Nina Simone tribute album

    In the 1970’s the legendary artist and civil rights activist, Nina Simone released a song entitled "BALTIMORE." It spoke to the challenges of urban living, particularly for people of color.

    https://youtu.be/ibDGbxaIA00

    April 14, 1967 Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. speech at Stanford

    This speech is known as "The other America"

    https://youtu.be/m3H978KlR20

    "Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe." Frederick Douglass

    Replies: @Justvisiting

    where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.

    History is fractal–Frederick Douglas had no idea he would be talking about future white people.

  • Agent76 says:

    May 1, 2015 #BlackSpring in “BALTIMORE” from the forthcoming Nina Simone tribute album

    In the 1970’s the legendary artist and civil rights activist, Nina Simone released a song entitled “BALTIMORE.” It spoke to the challenges of urban living, particularly for people of color.

    https://youtu.be/ibDGbxaIA00

    Video Link
    April 14, 1967 Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. speech at Stanford

    This speech is known as “The other America”

    Video Link
    “Where justice is denied, where poverty is enforced, where ignorance prevails, and where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.” Frederick Douglass

    •ï¿½Replies: @Justvisiting
    @Agent76


    where any one class is made to feel that society is an organized conspiracy to oppress, rob and degrade them, neither persons nor property will be safe.
    �
    History is fractal--Frederick Douglas had no idea he would be talking about future white people.
  • Pheasant [AKA "anonymous taser"] says:
    @niteranger
    Get ready for a replay. The parties are now banning together to stop the sale of what they call Assault Rifles without a mention of all the murders and shootings in the cesspool of Democratic cities this week. America is already on their way to becoming a third world cesspool and it won't stop. This guy in Texas appears to have a Jewish background. The Jews and their associate goy will use this to step up against every white person in order to stop what they perceive as White Nationalism.

    No one will believe what is going to happen in this country and most whites are too stupid do anything about it.

    Replies: @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist, @SparkleBoiWonderToy, @Pheasant, @PV van der Byl

    ‘This guy in Texas appears to have a Jewish background’

    Both shooters were crypto-jews.

  • Pheasant [AKA "anonymous taser"] says:
    @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    @niteranger

    I strongly believe Amerikastani kindergarteners should be compulsorily issued handguns and machine guns at the age of twelve. The more they use their weapons on each other, the fewer Amerikastanis. The fewer Amerikastanis, the better.

    Replies: @anon, @Pheasant

    ‘issued handguns and machine guns at the age of twelve.’

    Deringers when theyre four. Mini samurai swords even earlier.

  • Pheasant [AKA "anonymous taser"] says:
    @Truth
    @anon

    ...Until they move to El Paso..

    Replies: @Pheasant

    Truth you really have to stop with these devastating in depth rebuttals… please we just cant take it🙄

    •ï¿½Replies: @Truth
    @Pheasant

    Hey, hey, I just flew in from Dayton, and boy are my arms tired... because I didn't land till Connor Betts ran out of ammo...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oShTJ90fC34
  • In the 1st semester of 2019 , Mexico dethrones China and Canada and becomes the 1st commercial partner of the USA in the world .

    https://mundo.sputniknews.com/economia/201908051088271405-mexico-destrona-china-principal-socio-comercial-eeuu/

  • anonymous[402] •ï¿½Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. X
    The problem with the Race War of the 1960s is that whites lost -- or, more accurately, surrendered.

    Today, no segment of the population is more cosseted than blacks. Blacks are given unconstitutional preferences over whites in both the public and private sectors. Negro worship has become the de facto official state religion. Popular culture is almost entirely Negrified. Whites dress, speak, and copulate as if they were Negroes. They denounce their own heritage and the world-changing achievements of their race, while inventing fairy tales of black achievement and featuring unrealistic portrayals of blacks in advertising propaganda.

    Yet, Negro-occupied cities remain violent slums, and presidential candidates openly campaign on taking money from whites and awarding it to blacks as "reparations" for slavery.

    Why, whites, have you allowed this to happen?

    Replies: @anarchyst, @Jacques Sheete, @anonymous, @Joseph Doaks

    ‘Why, whites, have you allowed this to happen?’

    In 1944 a survey of Americans was asked who posed the most danger to America. A clear majority replied it was the Jews. The civil rights movement was a way for Jews to remove White ethnocentrism barring them from seizing power by using blacks as their proxies.

    Do not try and re-write history. We will not be so easily disheartened.

  • anonymous[402] •ï¿½Disclaimer says:
    @Robert Dolan
    Hispanics are NOT preferable to blacks.

    Hispanics are every bit as ethnocentric, and they are slightly more intelligent.

    They hate white people just as much as the blacks do. I worked with both groups. The blacks tried to guilt me over slavery, the Hispanics said I stole their land.

    Why so many here love the mexicans I do not understand.

    The jews have weaponized ALL of the non-whites against us, and they brought them in to usher in communism.

    The Great Replacement is real.

    Replies: @anonymous, @Malla, @Republic

    ‘Why so many here love the mexicans I do not understand.’

    The commenters here are a group of Jewish mischlings who fear White autonomy because they will not be included. They want the White working class gone and they rather like the idea of a relatively docile (takes a couple of generations and also a rather less violent Mexican environment, but Mexican Americans really do not bother with voting/rioting) underclass/ menial class to take the place of lazy blacks and potentially unruly genuine Whites. Black neighbourhoods cannot be gentrified (no businesses can function, too much random violence) whereas hispanic ones can etc.

    See Ron Unz himself for the best example.

  • @Alden
    @homahr

    Only a few came here on student visas. The others were over stayed tourists. The students cane here for flight schools, not college. They’d finished flight schools So they were visa overstayers who were illegal aliens.

    Replies: @Hans

    And NONE could have flown any of the planes involved.

    http://patriotsquestion911.com/pilots.html

    9/11 was orchestrated by the same (((globalists))) behind the mass migration and open borders agenda. Virulently anti-white and anti-Christian.

    •ï¿½Agree: Desert Fox
  • anonymous[402] •ï¿½Disclaimer says:
    @EliteCommInc.
    It's just gets tiresome untangling truth from fiction.

    The riots were in direct response to the death of Dr./Rev King.

    It is a distortion of the the dynamics of that were at play in the 1960's regarding the issue of blacks being denied their due access to rights as citizens.

    What was happening in the south as to peace marches was not what began to take shape in the cities of the nothern part of the country where I decidely more citizenship stance was in play. It is not that the peace marches were not viable in the cities, but in part a difference of how discrimination should be handled --- the problem was that the south got a lot of attention, but the oppressive nature of what took place in the north while less advertised and hidden on the manipulative tactics of how crime was reported and managed by the police. I other words what gets identified is not some sinister secret role of peaceful protest, but instead the real reality that there were generally two responses niether of which were intended as violent, but one was more confrontational.

    In the cities, the responses tended to be more confrontational -- which of course is seen as disrespectful to authority and that of course for the dominant population served as justification for cutting due process in favor of order against the preconceived and reinforced slavery motif that unruly blacks needed to be beat into submission, lazy blacks need to be beat into submission. It's telling how much of police behavior towards blacks in the cities mirrored slavery training manuals from the south. That dynamic was bound to end up in conflict and the occassional explosive incidents as increasing number of blacks simply decided to stand against said abuses and the inevitable violent response by the authority that would unleash power kegs simmering for thirty plus years. Unlike what this author describes those incidents do not bare any resemblance to orchestrated violence of the colonies against the king.

    The contend that civil disobedience was really something else in disguise is false. What does exist is two responses to the accused and verified discrimination.

    The Black Panthers were black nationalists or even black supremacists. What they contended is that waiting for whites to be just was a waste of time. And that blacks should take their own destinies in their own hands -- unfortunately, whites managed to manipulate the message by honing in on the image of Panthers as violent dangerous beasts and that of course fueled more than four hundred years of white perspective about blacks. Except the good blacks -- who were more inclined to bend over backwards so as not to offend or incur the wrath of whites. A means of politcally correct survival. And it here that more and more people in the cities might venture to cross those politically correct means for something direct and honest.

    Something whites to this day have a hard time accepting. Which is why they refer the seasoned black dynamic. If one wants to know what "seasoned" means, it too can be found in the training manuals or instructives of social engineering blacks.

    Replies: @anonymous

    ‘unfortunately, whites managed to manipulate the message by honing in on the image of Panthers as violent dangerous beasts’

    The black panthers were so out of control that Huey Newton had to resort to bringing back the whip. True story. Look it up.

  • anonymous[402] •ï¿½Disclaimer says:
    @davidgmillsatty
    @Bertrand Muscle

    The land could never have been "stolen" but for the fact the native American population was decimated by lack of immunity to domesticated European animals. The native population had only and partially domesticated the llama. They had no immunities at all to domesticated animals which the Spanish, and other early explorers, and, particularly the Catholic missionaries, brought over.

    By the time the English first tried to settle the US in 1607, probably 80 to 90% of the North American indigenous peoples had died out. Had the native Americans not been susceptible to disease, it is doubtful that the Europeans would have been able to colonize the Americas. It would have been like colonization everywhere else the native peoples were able to put up a fight, which is to say, not very successful in terms of establishing a permanent and thriving European community and culture.

    Practically speaking, there was not much to steal as great parts of the Americas were depopulated. The meme is old, outdated, and dis-proven by archaeological and genetic evidence.

    Replies: @anonymous

    ‘It would have been like colonization everywhere else the native peoples were able to put up a fight, which is to say, not very successful in terms of establishing a permanent and thriving European community and culture.’

    Que?

  • Anon[424] •ï¿½Disclaimer says:
    @Alden
    @Anon

    Unless for vacations, or if they live in the border, learning Spanish isn’t worthwhile for Americans.
    Most of the Hispanics speak only limited Spanish as they are Indians from Indian areas of Mexico and Central America. Very few immigrants come from the continent of South America except the wealthy who have vacation homes in Miami.

    Mexico is in North America. Central America is an isthmus between north and South America.

    Most of the Hispanics speak their Indian language as a first language and about 100 words of Spanish.

    Many slaughter houses canning plants commercial laundries janitor and gardening companies need Spanish to Indian translator supervisors to communicate with the Indian speaking workforce.

    That’s one of the reasons bilingual education is a failure and was dropped . Spanish was as much a foreign language to the Hispanic kids as it was to the Americans. And having IQs a good 15-20 points lower than the White Americans, it was much harder for them to learn Spanish.

    Most private and many of the better preforming public schools teach Mandarin now .

    Canadian and American boarding schools are full of South American kids whose parents want them to learn perfect English. Most of them went to bi lingual English Spanish private grade schools.

    When the upper and middle classes of Hispanic America are taught English from 1st grade in, why should Americans learn standard Spanish? The Hispanic immigrants from Mexico and Central America don’t speak Spanish but Indian languages and various limited dialects.

    Another comment from someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about and doesn’t even know that America doesn’t get immigrants from South America but Central America and Mexico.

    Or doesn’t even know that Spanish speaking America is spread over 3 continents.

    Replies: @Sam Coulton, @Montefrío, @Anon, @Truth

    That`s not true . Mexicans , argentinians , colombians etc…. have a command of spanish as good as Spain . You do not know what you are talking about . It is like saying that all the US is a black country .

    Certainly there are poor indian isolated minorities who may not speak spanish , or very little , like in Guatemala , and low class people with borderline IQ , like in all the countries , maybe they are the ones who emigrate to the US , to the Imperial Valley .

    In the US there is at least 20-25 % of the population wih borderline IQ , less that 80 . I have seen in the US lots of adult people who could not read and write adecuately , functional illiterates , of all the races , blacks , browns and white . But it does not mean that the whole country is like that .

  • anonymous[760] •ï¿½Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm

    directed the belated response to 9/11, an incident caused by Third Word immigrants.
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    So being MUSLIM has nothing to do with it? Are Vietnamese, Thai, and Sri Lankan people just as prone to fly planes into buildings?

    Oh, and Saudi Arabia is not a 'Third-World country'. It is one of the richest countries in the world, even if only due to oil.

    Get a clue.

    This 'Morris de Camp' fool is pretty high on the WN wigger tinfoil scale.

    Replies: @anonymous

    Not high enough for me I blame the Jews!

    By the way why without Jewish-led mass immigration would muslims be in America in the first place?

    No consulting the hasbara textbook.

  • @Fiendly Neighbourhood Terrorist
    "Sub-Saharans".

    Uh, no, they would be Amerikastanis with a lot of white genes mixed by means of enslavement and rape.

    You racists are really desperate these days, aren't you? Clutching at hairs and imagining they're straws?

    Replies: @Jacques Sheete, @Cleburne, @niteranger

    In recent weeks a number of trolls have invaded the forum and you are one of them. Only an idiot like this would talk about enslavement and rape when Africa is the poster child for such problems. They still sell each other into slavery. And contrary to the raping of blacks by whites during the slavery years it was very small. Most of such genes in blacks are the result of black men who typically seek white women because of looks, and higher social status which enrages black females. Any modern day analysis would show that and even today white males raping black women is almost unheard of compared to black males raping white women which is national problem not talked about in the media.

  • Hispanics are NOT preferable to blacks.

    Hispanics are every bit as ethnocentric, and they are slightly more intelligent.

    They hate white people just as much as the blacks do. I worked with both groups. The blacks tried to guilt me over slavery, the Hispanics said I stole their land.

    Why so many here love the mexicans I do not understand.

    The jews have weaponized ALL of the non-whites against us, and they brought them in to usher in communism.

    The Great Replacement is real.

    •ï¿½Replies: @anonymous
    @Robert Dolan

    'Why so many here love the mexicans I do not understand.'

    The commenters here are a group of Jewish mischlings who fear White autonomy because they will not be included. They want the White working class gone and they rather like the idea of a relatively docile (takes a couple of generations and also a rather less violent Mexican environment, but Mexican Americans really do not bother with voting/rioting) underclass/ menial class to take the place of lazy blacks and potentially unruly genuine Whites. Black neighbourhoods cannot be gentrified (no businesses can function, too much random violence) whereas hispanic ones can etc.

    See Ron Unz himself for the best example.
    , @Malla
    @Robert Dolan


    The jews have weaponized ALL of the non-whites against us, and they brought them in to usher in communism.
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    Yup that is the game all along. Eventually Communism will be enforced upon the entire World when the NWO One World Govt comes out. Except maybe the ruling state of Greater Israel.
    Not only is communism a good ideology to control a society and to create rootless automon workers, it satisfies one of the key beliefs in Judaism. That we Goyim are cattle and thus all our properties and things we own do not belong to us but to the Jews. After all, does your cattle get to own the cow shed? To have property rights? No. Same for the Goyim.
    In the coming NWO Communism, everything from your underwear to your house will be owned by the state. You own nothing not even your bodies.
    "But Aha", says the idiot, "but we the people own the State". Only a idiot can fall for some drivel that in communist countries the common man owns the state.
    In the future Communist Orwellian One World government, the State will own everything and Greater Israel will own this Communist World State. Thus the holy jews will own everything and goyim like cattle will own nothing. Thus this element of Judaism will be satisfied by Communism.
    A future one world with communism, full of rootless, soulless, raceless, brown, gender fluid people. That is what is coming.
    The USSR was one preliminary attempt in Communism that most probably went wrong. People's Republic of China is an experiment in Corporate Communism where crony capitalism/big business seamlessly comes together with Marxist State/big Government. Wait.... that is kind off happening in the USA too but in a different way.
    , @Republic
    @Robert Dolan


    Why so many here love the mexicans I do not understand
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    The commentators in this post are not reflective of the overall opinion of Unz readers regarding the great cultural /economic harm of the Mexican invaders. The blacks have been contained due to their very high abortion rate,but the Mexicans breed like rabbits.
  • Anon[424] •ï¿½Disclaimer says:
    @RadicalCenter
    @Anon

    Well, I agree with you in more ways than you will suspect from some of my snarky comments below.

    Many of us know other languages, and the trend is growing (not referring to Spanish), though not nearly as fast as I’d like. As for our family, our young children are on track to be fluent in at least three languages each (English and Mandarin, plus Russian or German). It is, as you said, good for their brains. I’ll add that it can be good for their hearts, too :)

    Yet that has nothing to do with the ongoing surrender and destruction of our country, or with feeling guilty about doing what all other peoples did who were capable, including the poor victimized Mexicans and Indians. .

    As for this america business, it seems that anyone who takes umbrage at our use of this simple affectionate shorthand for our country’s name, has some other racial or political ax to grind. As you do. As most of us do here, honestly, in some way.

    Just to clarify, please be aware that many Americans (or USA Americans, as a few of the dang ferners on this site say) know that there are NORTH, CENTRAL, and SOUTH America in geographical and political terms.

    “Correcting†people for using an abbreviation or nickname that is very easily understood, is rather silly. Nothing to be offended about, is there? If you don’t want to call the USA “Americaâ€, don’t. We will keep doing it, and normal people from the USA elsewhere wouldn’t feel consternation over it like you apparently do. Just be realistic about a perfectly innocuous use of a term that’s merely shorter and faster to say than the formal name of our country. And then come visit us and have a good time! (I mean that seriously, come on over, you’ll meet some of us, at least, who make it a little harder to be bitter about “Americans†broadly.)

    I will agree and strongly disagree with what I think you’re saying about foreign languages and cultures herein the USA (you know, AMERICA ;)

    Learning other nations’ languages, developing an interest in their culture, making friends abroad through tourism and student exchange, fostering trade and cooperation, are all prudent, humane and plain old enjoyable things.

    I agree that we AMERICANS need to do more on all those fronts, rather than starting pointless non defensive wars and engaging in belligerent provocations. I would have the federal government greatly increase funds to promote tourism and facilitate student exchange programs in high schools and universities.

    All the while DE-creasing legal immigration drastically and cracking down forcibly on illegal immigration (and the disloyal prick “Americans†who hire illegals or agitate for their citizenship or freebies at our expense).

    All the positive measures I outlined above — which I’m sure you also support — are not the same as yielding sovereignty, National identity and cohesion. It is not the same as allowing mass immigration of indifferent to hostile peoples, generally relatively backwards or less assimilable (in our estimation) peoples, and aggressive peoples, and giving up control over one’s own territory to foreign peoples, languages, mores, and customs and laws governing our lives.

    Nor do these positive measures necessarily entail any of those suicidal measures.

    We can and should be actively engaged with the peoples of the world, and learning their languages En masses for our own enrichment, security, and plain old enjoyment. That is, English should be the only,anguage here in the USA, enforced by any means necessary, but we should have our new generations more ready to compete and explore. We should have them demanding the dominance of our language and culture and people here in the USA, and learning foreign languages FOR TRADE, TOURISM, AND STUDENT EXCHANGE, not for regular use in our own damn country.

    As for spanish being spoken in the territory of the USA, you are greatly overstating the number of people settled, effort expended, and accomplishments achieved, by Spanish/Mexican authorities in our current territory. You ought to know that both Indian tribes and Spanish or Mexican authorities had extremely few people scattered over a vast distance,. They were as rough and heartless as we were, without a doubt, and they did very little to cultivate the land, build improvements, and advance civilization as our people conceive of it and established it here.

    Since you refer to the Indian tribes being here before us:
    Those poor benighted native Americans, by the way, were slaughtering, raping, torturing, and raiding each other for centuries before we showed up (well, excluding the limited landings of the Swedish long ago) — being human beings and readily capable of brutality and cruelty like the rest of us — with little advancement in medicine, technology, law, anything much that would lengthen, strengthen, and make freer, safer, and happier the lives of tens and then hundreds of millions of people.

    Every race of people has done unwarranted violent, dishonest, and meanspirited things to other races of people, and it is illogical and obnoxious to focus disproportionately or exclusively on the wrongs or supposed wrongs of white and western people against Indians or Mexicans, We should be more knowledgeable about other languages and cultures — including that of Mexico and Latin America — but reestablish our dominance and sovereignty HERE.

    Replies: @Anon

    Mandarin, German , Russian … interesting languages but difficult for the yankees tovarich .

    I speak english , I like english , and I believe I know quite well the US culture and people , I have a lot of apreciation for the US .

    . Yankees should study Spanish as a second language because it is an american language . Most Spanish speaking countries study English at school as a second language , and we don`t lose our identity because we study english . But if you do not want to know anything about spanish language and culture , if you reject it , the hispanic people , dissapointed , will end up rejecting yankees also .

    After all you are neighbours of a lot of spanish speaking american countries , like it or not , you should communicate better with your neighbours . In Texas , New Mexico , Arizona , California and Florida spanish is the second language , like it or not , it is the natives , the spaniards , the history , the spanish were the first european to arrive to America , like it or not . before than the english pirates .

    English is the first language of the world , it is a strong language , it is studied all around the world , why are you so insecure ?

    •ï¿½Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Anon

    If you know how the language groups relate to each other, Tovarish ;) then you’ll know that German is NOT especially difficult for a reasonably bright native speaker of English.

    Mandarin, yes, extremely difficult not just for Yankees but for you too. But not difficult when they learn as small children, as our children are. Plus my white/Asian children appear to be well above average in intelligence, LOL.

    As for Russian, it is typically ranked as harder for English-speakers to learn than the Romance languages (easiest) and Germanic languages (next easiest), but not as hard as Asian languages such as Mandarin, Cantonese, and Japanese.

    As for the status of English around the world, that doesn’t change the fact that it is being pushed aside by Spanish on our territory in the USA. Anyone sensible and proud SHOULD be “insecure†and angry about that. I can see English remaining the international common language for quite some time while Spanish — and ignorant, low-quality, very limited-vocabulary English — supplant actual English here in the USA. It should be easy for you to understand how this would be a negative development for us here, and perceived by us as such.

    As for Spanish being the first in the New World, you are presumably ignoring the Indian tribes and the Swedish explorers. Strange, because I mentioned that in my comment to you. Ignoring an argument or evidence doesn’t casually rebut it, you know.

    You also seem to have ignored my comment about the negligible presence of the brutal Spanish and savage Indians alike over this vast land mass.

    I tried hard to be accommodating and diplomatic, and emphasize areas of likely agreement. Please try not to simply repeat what you wrote before without addressing criticism and refinements.

    You should also know, and maybe do know, that Yankee/Yanqui has long been used in a derisive and resentful way against Americans, especially white Americans, and the USA. It’s not alright for you to be a wiseass and continue calling me that while pretending to be interested in a civilized discussion..... Also, Genosse, when you make comments about “Yankeesâ€, I wonder why you are always leaving out the Red Sox, the Mets, and the other teams,

    What country are you from, then? Then the fun can begin. What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander. (You seem to know a lot of English — you know, the language that I shouldn’t care about weakening and disappearing from my Balkanizing country so long as some simplified bastardized form is used by foreigners abroad — I’m sure you’ll understand the goose-gander expression.)

    Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  • @Alden
    @Anon

    Unless for vacations, or if they live in the border, learning Spanish isn’t worthwhile for Americans.
    Most of the Hispanics speak only limited Spanish as they are Indians from Indian areas of Mexico and Central America. Very few immigrants come from the continent of South America except the wealthy who have vacation homes in Miami.

    Mexico is in North America. Central America is an isthmus between north and South America.

    Most of the Hispanics speak their Indian language as a first language and about 100 words of Spanish.

    Many slaughter houses canning plants commercial laundries janitor and gardening companies need Spanish to Indian translator supervisors to communicate with the Indian speaking workforce.

    That’s one of the reasons bilingual education is a failure and was dropped . Spanish was as much a foreign language to the Hispanic kids as it was to the Americans. And having IQs a good 15-20 points lower than the White Americans, it was much harder for them to learn Spanish.

    Most private and many of the better preforming public schools teach Mandarin now .

    Canadian and American boarding schools are full of South American kids whose parents want them to learn perfect English. Most of them went to bi lingual English Spanish private grade schools.

    When the upper and middle classes of Hispanic America are taught English from 1st grade in, why should Americans learn standard Spanish? The Hispanic immigrants from Mexico and Central America don’t speak Spanish but Indian languages and various limited dialects.

    Another comment from someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about and doesn’t even know that America doesn’t get immigrants from South America but Central America and Mexico.

    Or doesn’t even know that Spanish speaking America is spread over 3 continents.

    Replies: @Sam Coulton, @Montefrío, @Anon, @Truth

    Very good point, that about many Latin Americans speaking little Spanish and in the case of Brazil, Portuguese, although I can’t truly speak to the latter. I have a lady friend with a vacation home in a Peruvian highlands town of about ten thousand inhabitants, more than half of whom are native Quechua speakers and frequently have only the most rudimentary Spanish. Go further up the mountains and the percentage of Spanish speakers drops to single digits.