People who use the term ‘pedo’ are the confused ones and even the full word ‘pedophile’ is misused.

The word itself specifically refers to a subject whose sole or at least primary sexual interest is in pre-pubescent children. It is a psychological / term defined in the DSM and refers to a psychological state of attraction, not to actions.

Much of the misuse arises from people taking it to refer to someone who has sex with a person under the age of consent, a very different matter, being a legal issue. Its misuse in this context is further exacerbated by its shortened form ‘pedo’, the use of which points to it being used as an almost meaningless slur.

Whenever an actual case of a pattern of behavior proving ‘pedos’ do exist and rule the world it is always the case that the perpetrators are homosexual men abusing boys and are more accurately termed ‘pederasts’, whose tastes in boys are not limited to pre-pubescent boys either so even they are not paedophiles.

The biggest clown choice is Hegesth [sic]

The escort business catering to Christian Zionist homos with a crusader fetish
cannot be that great; it would however be interesting who in Orange Man´s
inner circle tapped that particular talent �

Or… you could just confine yourself to girls you don’t have to pick up from 7th period geometry.

He may indeed be the Jewish pick, but only so they can make an example out of him.

Again, a complete misreading of the strategy here.

The Gaetz pick–along with most of the other cabinet picks–is a loyalty test for GOP senators.

They are effectively boxed in. If they oppose, they are branded as disloyal, RINO, insufficiently MAGA, whatever.

If they confirm, they are stuck with incompetent clowns.

Actually, as others have said, Gaetz is a LOT more savvy and clever than people give him credit for.

The biggest clown choice is Hegesth. This guy has zero experience running any organization, let alone something anywhere near as gargantuan as the DOD.

Again, the idea that any one of these clowns were chosen to be sacrificial lambs is preposterous.

Erin Pizzey was the pioneer of refuges for what were then called “battered wives”, but she ended up needing the police to check her mail for bombs after outraging the sisterhood by noticing/claiming that some women were as violent* as men and that it wasn’t necessarily always a case of brutal males and innocent females.

For holding this view she was cast out of the “sisterhood” and afaik is still barred from visiting the women’s refuge she founded, which has grown to be an organisation with a £19m annual income, two-thirds state funded. The permanent staff get damehoods and awards while the founder finally got a gong this year.

“Pizzey’s name could not be found anywhere on the Refuge website for many decades. It was not until 2 November 2020 that Sandra Horley, the chief executive of Refuge since 1983, mentioned Pizzey’s name for the first time again on the Refuge website in a press release on her retirement.”

* but strength differences mean a man can generally damage a woman much more than a woman can damage a man

Seeing UK politicians I’ve often wondered if a skeleton in the cupboard isn’t in fact a qualification, not a disqualification for a political career.

Shut-up kike.

I’m guessing you’d say the same thing if he was talking about Roy Moore.

Remember when that clown G Gordon Liddy called Clinton a pedophile for trysting with that disgusting yenta? Such contempt for his audience.

The future of the Epstein-cabal Jews controlling America is found in that movie with Ferdinand Marian.

Good that ICE is active finding wanted men to hand over to foreign authorities. Blacks, the domestic law enforcement system turns a blind eye.

An adult male having intercourse with a willing 17 year old girl is not equivalent to an adult male sodomizing a 6 year old boy.

True.

The word ‘pedo’ is used by the general public to refer to a male who engages in either act.

Also true.

What I have said is that pointing out the non-equivalence of those two acts, at length, will not cause the general public to alter its use of the word ‘pedo.’

It won’t.

Therefore—and this is my opinion—it’s not sensible to devote much time to this ‘problem.’ The ‘problem,’ if problem it be, is linguistic. It could only be resolved by the adoption of two new, different words for the two acts. And that is beyond the capability of the individual.

Ironically the word ‘pedophilia,’ in its root form, as used by the ancient Greeks, cannot be used to refer to either of the acts referred to above, since the physical act associated with Greek pedophilia was part of a mentor-pupil relationship between a male adult and a male ‘youth’ and was intercrural.

Fazit: It’s well to talk about the meaning of words, but not at much length.

It is interesting that you mentioned Latin America though. Sounds evasive.

No, it shows up a lot. On this side of the border, too.

ICE deports fugitive alien to face charges in Mexico for raping a 6-year-old girl who later died of her injuries

Back when Vdare.com was allowed to exist, they had many stories like this. One involved a dog.

>The confirmation hearings for Gaetz are going to be an absolute fiasco

Gaetz lacks gravitas and should not have been nominated for this position — but you get such nonsense with a buffoon like Trump.

It looks like Gaetz is currently not under criminal investigation, but the allegations involve unseemly conduct.

Republicans won control of the House in 2022, so this ‘sex trafficking’ investigation by the House Ethics Committee isn’t necessarily a partisan issue, unless it was pushed by never Trump types and you want to count that as partisan — the ‘sex trafficking’ aspect seems to concern Greenberg (he pled guilty to a related charge), who allegedly recruited and paid young girls to attend parties (ahem) — so the case is actually Epstein-esque, in that sense, although Gaetz is said to have paid Greenberg — apparently a federal investigation into Greenberg began during the Trump administration.

When it concerns sex, where there’s smoke there’s usually fire, especially with younger women in the peak years of their sexual attractiveness.

Why are we quibbling about the meaning of the word ‘pedo’?

“Use this word exactly as I use it or else!�

Well, in this case, abusing the word amounts to libel — in effect, if not in law.

I have sex with a seventeen year old girl. We’re both happy with the outcome.

Somehow, this becomes the same as sodomizing a six-year old boy.

I remember a UCMJ briefing where there were two hard and fast rules related to sex:

1) The official position on sex was missionary (has this been repealed ?); and
2) 15 will get you 20.

BTW, isn’t videorecorded sex with minors a prerequisite for being selected to Congress ?

Why are we quibbling about the meaning of the word ‘pedo’?

“Use this word exactly as I use it or else!�

Or else what? You’ll hold your breath till your face turns blue? In the immortal words of ‘the greatest president of our lifetime,’ “Come on, man!�

Language is like lava. It oozes wherever it wants. If you’re in the way, if your toes get singed, well, that’s just too d**n bad.

Anyway, ‘pedo’ is small potatos. It’s not as if we’re not all on the same page.

If we’re going to quibble about words let’s go for the big fish. ‘Nazi,’ for example.

In the hallowed halls of TUR, in our tiny little language-group, we use ‘nazi’ ‘correctly,’ to refer to the NSDAP.

The unwashed nincompoops of the greater language-group use it as a synonym for ‘evil person,’ or ‘monster,’ or ‘Antichrist.’

If we yell loud enough will we make the unwashed nincompoops mend their ways? Hahaha…

Still, that would be a nobler way to waste our breath.

‘…Why america Failed by Morris Berman may help.’

Somebody tell me Morris Berman isn’t Jewish.

‘Colin—maybe 400 years of imperialistic, genocidal war mongering cheered on by 335 million buffoons and turkeys. Hustlers, hucksters who are ontologically, intellectually, and spiritually empty who live in a business enterprise not a country.
US-ers.

Why america Failed by Morris Berman may help.’

You’re referring to a comic book fantasy that you have in your head — not the actual America of either the past or the present.

It’s so disconnected from reality that it’s not even particularly offensive.

‘On another note lots of blacks have 12-13 year old pregnancies. It’s vanishingly rare among whites for girls under 16.’

Blacks are apparently fantastically promiscuous. Since most whites disproportionately see ‘acculturated’ mulattoes functioning in the white world, they have no idea.

When I was a teacher in Boyle Heights, we had a slew of new hires who had been assigned to black schools and said ‘get me out or I quit.’

One of them told us about what goes on in elementary school. Black high school girls come over and troll the sixth-grade boys, looking for prospective lovers. They want a partner who can’t beat them up.

Colin—maybe 400 years of imperialistic, genocidal war mongering cheered on by 335 million buffoons and turkeys. Hustlers, hucksters who are ontologically, intellectually, and spiritually empty who live in a business enterprise not a country.
US-ers.

Why america Failed by Morris Berman may help.

The Kennedys, probably. The Clintons, most definitely!

Perhaps. But the point is that by excluding the philanderers in favor of the prudes or the just asexual, we’re not necessarily improving the pool of candidates — and we’re obviously shrinking it.

Do you want to be ruled solely by the uxorious or repressed? I mean, obviously there can be too much of a good thing, but a reasonably sexually aggressive man is actually a pretty healthy guy. Clinton was definitely a bridge too far, but if FDR knocked off his wife’s appointments secretary or whoever, that was between him and Mrs Roosevelt as far as I’m concerned.

‘…giving birth at ages 15, 16, 17

And 13, 12, and 11, for that matter. Still quite common in Latin America.’

I think one factor here is that we’re comparing apples and oranges.

It used to be fairly common to impregnate young girls in Spain and Portugal, for example — and having done so, the man married her.

The point is that in the past, having been seduced, these girls were at least in principle assured of a stable future and a respected place in society.

That’s not the assumption now. Jeffrey Epstein can have each successive bit of candy and toss it aside when he’s through. These girls don’t even get to join the sultan’s harem. Even high school jock isn’t necessarily going to marry the freshman he just scored with.

The situation has changed. Girls no longer exchange their virginity for marriage.

the us is deplorable bc of its people.

That’s a decidedly bigoted position. What’s the range of your actual experience?

It DOES, regardless of how often people misuse it.

PEDO- or PED- specifically means pre-pubescent.

Therefore, it cannot possibly apply to anything having to do with a normal, healthy 17-year old woman.

I would agree with that definition. However, many use the word differently.

Part of the difficulty is that there’s no particularly sharp line; there will be vulnerable nineteen year olds; and fifteen year olds up for a nice roll in the hay. There will be men brutally exploiting and damaging young girls, and there will be true love where one partner merely happens to be a lot younger than the other. Abelard and Heloise were not the same as Jeffrey Epstein and his successive bits of shiksacandy.

But none of this is susceptible to precise definition. You can pick out the extremes — but what about the majority of cases that fall somewhere in the middle?

the us is deplorable bc of its people.

12-13-15 pregnancy is common among blacks in the US. Almost unheard of among whites.

Often black incest. The prominence is masked by Abortion access.

It is interesting that you mentioned Latin America though. Sounds evasive. It’s a black teen problem…

Looking at abortion rates among those ages 15 to 44, there were 28.6 abortions per 1,000 non-Hispanic Black women in 2021; 12.3 abortions per 1,000 Hispanic women; 6.4 abortions per 1,000 non-Hispanic White women; and 9.2 abortions per 1,000 women of other races, the CDC reported from those same 31 states, D.C. and New …Mar 25, 2024

In 2017, the majority—an estimated 58 percent—of pregnancies to adolescent females ages 15-17 ended in a birth and 28 percent ended in an abortion; for teens ages 18-19, 62 percent of pregnancies ended in a birth and 23 percent ended in an abortion.

This American high age of consent is mostly about being able to prosecute blacks attacking white girls.

On another note Lenina attempts to have sex with the crazy Shakespeare quoting John Savage. The hypocritical public debates in the US remind me of the sputtering John unable to just be a normal man in front of a naked willing female. We have pederatstic trannies appointed as High officials and make issue of a man apparently attracted to a sexually mature female.

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On another note lots of blacks have 12-13 year old pregnancies. It’s vanishingly rare among whites for girls under 16.

Once you have black pimps these laws are on the books.

When someone accuses you of being a fascist, do you reply, “Liar! I’m a human being, not a bundle of sticks!�

Etymology is an absorbing study, especially for the mature mind, but outside of a convention of etymologists it’s largely irrelevant.

Words ‘mean’ what a given language-group thinks they mean. To insist otherwise is equivalent to Don Quixote charging a windmill.

The windmill wins every time.

My college roommate of 60+ years ago and I used to compile lists of words that should be banned from the vocabulary.

We finally decided that all words should be banned, and communication limited to a thumbs-up or a thumbs-down.

Good idea?

This time the Democrats wised up and picked a 20-something presumed perjurer instead of hags like Christine Blasey Ford, Stormy Daniels, or E. Jean Carroll, all of whose stories were less believable than rape by space abduction.

How about the standard rule before 1965:

No sex outside of a legal marriage, blessed by God.

Most of the universe followed that rule.

Sixteen, not seventeen. Better even, fifteen.

I have heard the statistic that 40% of black girls/women are raped before the age of 18 by someone they know.

Why don’t liberals care about that actual rape statistic that currently affects millions of minority females?

For the same reason they whine about slavery that happened 250 years ago and don’t do a damn thing about the modern-day slaves which number in the millions: They don’t actually care; they just want to bully white white people.

From the same Wikipedia article:

In California, there is a crime of “Unlawful sexual intercourse”, which is an act of sexual intercourse with a person under the age of 18 who is not the spouse of the person. There are no exceptions; all sexual activity with a person under the age of 18 (and not their spouse) is a criminal offense. By the letter of the law, if a 17-year-old willingly has sex with another 17-year-old, both have committed a crime, although it is only a misdemeanor.

I know how proponents of decriminalization of drug use say that using drugs is a victimless crime, and their opponents say drug use leads to bad outcomes. Same for prostitution.

What are the arguments for making two willing 17-year-olds having sex in the state of California a crime? What retards write these laws? “The Land of the Free” my ass.

Wtf is a zionazi?

You mean zionist or just plain jew.

Just under 16, pedophile if there is a pattern of behaviour, but not as bad as those who go for pre-teens and younger. Lock them up with people who will bully them, there is a pecking order in basically all prisons around the world, and pedos are usually at the very bottom level of hell. If the girl is 16-17 the perps are just being creepy, naming and shaming should be punishment enough, although allowances could be made if it’s a once-off incident. A clear repeating pattern of behaviour is a red light.

Child porn is as bad as molesting, I don’t care if its art or AI generated, lock them up with prison gangs and let them try to explain the subtleties to those dudes. Off course after being found guilty in court I might add.

Where I live the age of consent has always been 16 from colonial times onwards, but at least among Whites it’s considered very bad taste to go for barely legal. In modern Bantu culture men who go for 16 year-olds are called “blessers”, since they offer gifts like money, clothes, etc.

The text of the original commenter who wrote “Sounds like another attack on heterosexual men…. ” did not make any of your sophisticated arguments.

It was just deflection something typically pedos do. Like rapists who only claim that all rapes are false accusations from lying women.

One of the things I don’t like about the term ‘pedo’ is that it doesn’t distinguish between finding a seventeen year old sexually attractive and finding a six year old sexually attractive.

It DOES, regardless of how often people misuse it.

PEDO- or PED- specifically means pre-pubescent.

Therefore, it cannot possibly apply to anything having to do with a normal, healthy 17-year old woman.

Pediatricians do NOT have 17-year old patients.

OB/GYNs on the other hand, do.

The rise of feminism has led to an assault on hetero men, its that simple. Any man who denies that a teenage girl, 16 plus, is not attractive, is a liar.

“Feminism is the theory; lesbianism is the practice.” — Erin Pizzey, British Feminist

And do we really want to exclude the Grover Clevelands, Franklin Roosevelts, Dwight D. Eisenhowers, John Kennedys, and Bill Clintons from public life?

The Kennedys, probably. The Clintons, most definitely!

You wouldn’t be here without MANY, MANY female ancestors having sex and giving birth at ages 15, 16, 17 over centuries and millennia…

If you could, would you go back and prevent those relationships and couplings, or punish the “wrongdoers�?

A certain portion of this was abduction, rape, and incest. Does that make us hypocrites for punishing these offenses today? Are you going to release today’s rapists from prison because your 17th-great-grandfather (several times over) was a cad with a violent streak?

We used to lynch men for this sort of thing. (Not that Gaetz falls anywhere near that class– he’s being lynched in the Clarence Thomas sense. With three decades more of “high tech” at hand.)

giving birth at ages 15, 16, 17

And 13, 12, and 11, for that matter. Still quite common in Latin America.

Politics is the art of the possible.

While I personally think that Stew Peters Administration looks good, it isn’t possible for any of them to be confirmed in the Senate.

Not a one.

So an attempt by Trump to push it through would be a forlorn hope, so he isn’t going to bother.

Nor should he, because he’ll just be burning up political capital for no good reason.

“The problem is emotional/psychological maturity.”

Well, if that is a problem then the law should reflect that, not some unwritten “morality”.

If Gaetz had sex with someone that is 17 then the law says that is their prerogative.

Both of them, male and female.

If you think otherwise then you need to agitate for the law to be changed, and that goes double for all the Congress swamp creatures who are pursuing Gaetz over this allegation.

“The confirmation hearings for Gaetz are going to be an absolute fiasco and Trump is going to have to promise these rats everything they want if he hopes to get Gaetz (and Gabbard) confirmed.”

Possibly.

The alternative is that Trump says “stuff you” to any attempts by “those rats” to cut a deal in return for confirmation.

I suspect Trump is in a better position to get his way than those “rats” are to refuse to confirm those nominations.

And to refuse to confirm on the basis of moral turpitude (which, in essence, is the excuse they’d have to come up with) is just handing Trump a very heavy bat to beat those rats about the head.

Let’s face it: there’s more than enough moral turpitude amongst the Senators: let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Grover Cleveland??

Whaddabout Warren ‘Broom Closet” Harding?

I knew someone now living in Hemet, CA and once was big in San Diego real estate who met Obama as a gay hustler in Waikiki in the late 70’s.

Anglin’s pedo brigade is out in full force.

One of the things I don’t like about the term ‘pedo’ is that it doesn’t distinguish between finding a seventeen year old sexually attractive and finding a six year old sexually attractive.

I’m not going to pretend that I find it impossible to harbor anything but platonic feelings for any woman under eighteen. On the other hand, I certainly don’t want to have sex with a nine year old.

When it comes to sex, it’s noticeable that men rarely do.

One might aver there is a noticeable dearth of men among them.

Perhaps we should pay more attention to that matter, seeing as how we’ve come to a juncture in our evolutionary journey where we’re just going to have to embrace genocide or else.

Perhaps matters of morality are matters we should have paid more attention to all along.

How did Barak Obama end up with Nixon and Carter?

From what I ‘ve read, Barack is rumoured to have had a lively homosexual lifestyle in his Yute. He is also reported to have used cocaine more than once or twice.

He may indeed be the Jewish pick, but only so they can make an example out of him.

Imagine the effect on the politicians viewing this escapade.

Somebody said that morality is determined by geography.

Especially when it comes to sex.

The sex crimes hysteria was another fake Jew tool to destroy anyone that goes against them

See how they are using the same tool to go after the ICJ judge who wants to convict the squatter colony for mass baby and women killing, AKA Genocide

No man is safe from false allegations of some sex crime the moment they call out the fake Jew.

Our only hope is for people to begin to use their intellects and realize that they are being played like a bull fiddle by our fake Jewish Friends.

Welp, I guess we know who didn’t score in his teens.

It’s interesting. No one considers the possibility that some Democrat Senators might vote to confirm some of Trumps picks.

It shouldn’t be too hard for a few Dems to support Tulsi or RFK jr. Supporting Gaetz is a bit of a stretch, but they might do it anyway just to cause trouble.

Trump has to hire a lot of people. He could woo some Dems with a few nominations they would like in return for their support on his other nominees.

I’d like to see Andrew Yang get a nomination, maybe Secretary of Education.

There are also ambassadorships to hand out.

I’m waiting to see what will Trump do with regards to nuclear power.

‘But he clearly wasn’t acting like an emotionally mature adult…

When it comes to sex, it’s noticeable that men rarely do. And do we really want to exclude the Grover Clevelands, Franklin Roosevelts, Dwight D. Eisenhowers, John Kennedys, and Bill Clintons from public life?

We’re to confine ourselves to the Richard Nixons, Jimmy Carters, and Barack Obamas? I don’t see that as an improvement.

‘Gaetz had sex with a seventeen year old girl. And?’

It would depend on the girl, and on the details. However, it’s not necessarily a crime — and therefore shouldn’t be illegal.

Did the girl or her parents actually press charges? In the real world, that’s usually the critical question. Back in the late eighties at least, LAPD wouldn’t bother with a statutory rape case if the girl wasn’t willing to testify.

Kinda works, actually. If you are going to succumb to that little hottie, you better not break her heart. And that’s really kind of the dividing line between Dante and Beatrice vs Jeffrey Epstein.

Agreed that 17 is definitely physically mature.

The problem is emotional/psychological maturity. The modern world with all its conveniences and life span extending technology has made us soft, protracting emotional adolescence well into our twenties and beyond.

So Gaetz did what any animal in heat would do.

But he clearly wasn’t acting like an emotionally mature adult. Still, it’s obvious they’re out to get him.

Does this include the writer of this screed? Or do some of them get a pass?

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To the contrary. Getting blackmailed by Jews is in fact the way to break into politics.

Another evidence-free accusation just like the e jean carroll accusation and many others. But the press censors such stories when a democrat is involved even when there is video proof, as with biden and his serial groping of little girls.

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Or… You could just wait until she is out of high school.

You need to go back and study what the word root “pedo� means. Then come back with a correction and apology.

Any actual would-be pedophile will end up dying a painful death if he makes a move toward our children.

“Certainly not this Third World sex tourist and Christian morality defender.”

That’s a category error: the Bible doesn’t address “age of consent.” Most women want a hard throbbing c**k betwixt their thighs around age 14 or 15, some even sooner. At 17 ALL women want the above.

If middle-aged Gaetz was banging a 17-year-old, he is a gigachad. A tip o’ the cap to him: and your jealousy masquerading as feigned moral outrage is duly noted.

You wouldn’t be here without MANY, MANY female ancestors having sex and giving birth at ages 15, 16, 17 over centuries and millennia. Same as all of us, whether “british� or european or scandinavian or russian or asian or whatever.

If you could, would you go back and prevent those relationships and couplings, or punish the “wrongdoers�?

It’s not “third world sex tourists� who are, by their God-given nature, powerfully sexually attracted to long-post-pubescent 16- and 17-year-old girls/ young women. There is a word for such people: men. Normal men. Maybe you know some.

And hey, since it’s Unz, let’s get ad hominem, shall we? I take it you never got any from a decent-looking 16- or 17-yo gal, even when you were that age. Or perhaps you’re not into women at all. Or do you have an alternative explanation for your unrealistic, ahistorical, and illogical (supposed) aversion to sex with sexually mature young women?

And yes, I am a father. My wife and I have been blessed with numerous daughters. We don’t lie to them about what is biologically natural and normal, nor slander normal men. We teach them to dress and behave modestly, take precautions, not be naive about the priority of normal men, and try to save physical intimacy for a later age and in the context of at least an engagement to be married to a man whom she knows well and has proven his honesty, decency, industriousness, loyalty, strength but kindness and fairness, and commitment.

Statuatory rape is an offense against the state, not the supposed victim. But I digress.

In my wise and all-knowing way, I have got it figured out. The age of consent should be seventeen at the most. Not eighteen. Seventeen. It’s not the business of the law to stand in the place of parents and the family. If the parents and the family don’t want their adolescent son or daughter to be sexually active, it’s up to them to manage the situation, not the state. A seventeen-year-old is going to be legally an adult for all purposes in all jurisdictions in a few months, except for buying alcohol and (in some jurisdictions) buying smokes.

What? In a tick of the clock, you can go straight from being a helpless child who can’t think for themselves to signing up on your own volition to carry a rifle in some foreign land? It doesn’t add up. Not the moralistic arguments. That’s why I said, it’s an offense against the state.

Ahhh…better times…

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17 is a legal adult for shagging in my zip code. Where did Gaetz screw the bitch?

That’s a good point. The whole scene is so fucked up it challenges reality.

A lot of people in the Senate probably think that Gaetz will go after them for revenge, so it’s hard to imagine them allowing him in. It isn’t even political, but about their own self-preservation. Tulsi is in a similar position. Both political parties were openly calling her a Russian agent just a year or two ago. Even if they didn’t really believe she worked for Russia, it would still look weird for them to make these claims that she is a spy and then agree to put her in charge of intelligence.

Since the USA is a porno country, Americans just assume that the age of consent is 18 everywhere because that’s the age they can start legally making porno.

A Stew Peters administration would save the western world.

Trump is paying a “transition team� millions of dollars to put together a subpar cabinet and staff.

I made this myself for free last night. It’s not hard.

A Stew Peters admin would be shutting down the U.S. embassy… pic.twitter.com/60zHwlrpkB

— Stew Peters (@realstewpeters) November 15, 2024

If you’re male heterosexual (i.e. normal), and want to make a go of it as a politician, you really need to keep it in your pants. Play it on the safe side. Don’t be Epsteined. But historically, this little slut (who, by the way, knew exactly what was going down) could be considered almost ‘over the hill’.

Most females start to figure it out that they can entice men, probably around the time they are in sixth or seventh grade. Some are expert at it, within just a few years later. This sexual dynamic is highlighted by Randle McMurphy:

“She was fifteen years old, going on thirty-five, Doc, and she told me she was eighteen. Very willing. I practically had to take to sewing my pants shut. Between you and me, she might have been fifteen, but when you get that little red beaver right up there in front of you, I don’t think it’s crazy at all and I don’t think you do either. No man alive could resist that, and that’s why I got into jail to begin with. And now they’re telling me I’m crazy over here because I don’t sit there like a goddamn vegetable.”

Today’s politicians can’t even go the MILF route. Then, like Orange Man, they get some washed up skank accusing them of rape, thirty years after the suppossed fact. Ridiculous.

Are tiny child’s 17 years old in “US” ? Strange, in a “country” where Newtons laws not exist, they should instead be very tall at that age.

It’s like bombing the shit out of Tel Aviv. You need lots of dispensable decoys and plastic drones to exhaust the AA batteries. Gaetz is one of the $4.00 Shahed dronelets.

The Zionazis manage to knock it down, they do the 9/11 happy dance 6 million more come in. They shoot Gaetz down and Trump rams AG Alex Jones through on recess.

Having a loonytoon like Gates as AG strikes me as the perfect screenplay “The Revenge of Trumpenstein,” for the big pile of shit the so-called Justice Department tried to bury him under.

Never happened, period.
This is nothing but Kavanaugh confirmation rehash.

This is one of those things where you almost wonder if he didn’t concoct the accusation against himself in order to dispel the gay rumors. C.f. Tim Walz and his China fling.

Anglin’s pedo brigade is out in full force.

Once again, Anglin shows us what a moronic retard he is. It’s actually funny watching his feeble mind trying to make sense of things.

Gaetz was pushed for AG by fucking Boris Epshteyn. Care to guess which tribe that cunt belongs to?

Gaetz is the Jew pick, idiots.

How disgusting! She was a very young and a mere child

Sounds like another attack on heterosexual men. If this was a lesbian affair would it even be in the news? God made teenage girls attractive for a reason, to catch a mans eye so the species reproduces. What was normal for 200,000 years is now considered illegal. Plus, what is the context for this alleged hookup? Was she drunk? How old was he? If they knew eachother and it was consentual then its none of anyones business. I don’t see congress or the media exposing child brides in muslim communities. Why, because they don’t want to lose the arab vote? The rise of feminism has led to an assault on hetero men, its that simple. Any man who denies that a teenage girl, 16 plus, is not attractive, is a liar. Usually because he has a daughter or he’s terrified of his wife finding out. Also, rape, molestation, underage contact, etc, is orders of magnitude higher in the non white world but you’ll never hear that on the main stream news. It would be “offensive” to some. The deep state is alarmed by some of Trumps picks so they’re pulling out all the stops. Gaetz had sex with a seventeen year old girl. And?

Gaetz is probably burnt toast. Even if he didn’t screw the little whore it won’t make any difference. As long as the ADL is after him, and as long as the AIPAC controlled Senate has to confirm him, he’s got little chance.

Perhaps it is better to have Jews like Garfinkel and Blinken in top positions. If for no other reason (and it’s a big reason) that non Jew-wise folks have a better chance of watching first hand how the Tribe operates. To see them as Jews, and not simply ‘fellow whites’. Jew proxies are able to obscure the core Jewish angle; in any case their running dogs are often more Jew than actual Jew.

Matt Gaolbaitz. If that’s all these people have on Gaetz I do not see a problem. He’s no homosexual. But he had been close to a Jewish pimp/blackmailer.

Firstly, who cares if he did have sex with a 17 year old?

Certainly not this Third World sex tourist and Christian morality defender.

Only 17 years old? What a vile crime!

While the unrestricted age of consent is between 16 and 18 in all U.S. states, the laws have widely varied across the country in the past. In 1880, the ages of consent were set at 10 or 12 in most states, with the exception of Delaware where it was 7. The ages of consent were raised across the U.S. during the late 19th century and the early 20th century. By 1920, 26 states had an age of consent at 16, 21 states had an age of consent at 18, and one state (Georgia) had an age of consent at 14. Small adjustments to these laws occurred after 1920. The last two states to raise their age of general consent from under 16 to 16 or higher were Georgia, which raised the age of consent from 14 to 16 in 1995, and Hawaii, which changed it from 14 to 16 in 2001.

States where the age of consent is 16 (31): Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, and West Virginia.

States where the age of consent is 17 (7): Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, New York, Texas, and Wyoming.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_the_United_States

mCategorical differences, and the rest of theories — ethics or not — are just post-hoc rational contructs.

The only thing, other than direct or internalized social pressure, forming one’s deeds and convictions regarding other life forms, is ruth.

Now, we live in the time where Reason is close to being the planet-common established faith.
Saying I don’t want to eat this, or that, out of feelings of ruth, would run the risk to attract mockery, and certainly would not attract agreement.
The subject themselves would not trust their judgment without a foundation with the semblance of rationality.

Thousands of words and dozens of very intelligent points are then made, to turn emotional drives into faith-complying (“rational”) stances. These have a chance to change someone’s mind, and to, if nothing else, draw basic respect.
Also, they liberate the claimant from the fear of looking like a mollycoddle (status loss).

So we see both ruthlessness and ruth wearing mantles of intellectuality, working hard to pass undetected, undetected also by the very people who feel them. Particularly so for ruth; after all, ruthlessness is commonly read as strength, and displaying strength is all but status-harmful.

Of course more powerful humans reason about less powerful humans as they do about “animals”, that is in instrumental terms. That’s to be expected, and if it is not seen a lot that is owing to social/cultural pressure (convenience under another name), direct and internalized. Ruth is felt for all that lives or nothing that lives.

HI , Well yes the ultimate in incisors are in rodents(Mammalia Rodentia, IIRC) , and yes they and maybe we could chew though wood . Those pointy teeth are useful for busting seeds , but I would hate to try to chew into a coconut. LOL As to flat teeth , yea I got them too, gnashing of teeth and all that, , but I do like pointy teeth , especially Girls with pointy white teeth , hmmm. takes me back 🙂

Anywhoo , another example of Man ,and his progenitors as being manly carnivores in many places and over all of Mankind’s time , is to note the ‘Trash Pits” of early man , Neanderthal , Cromagnon, they all primarily ate meat all kinds, the bones of what they ate are everywhere, this was of course before organized farming

Regards,

Note , replied on email too, no clue how to combine e-mail to show on site, have some error message

Get back to me, when you can legitimately explain why humans evolved having incisors and canine teeth, un-needed to consume plants.

I know you were addressing Isabella, but I couldn’t resist.

It seems to me that incisors are needed especially for initial tearing off of all kinds of food. I would say that they are needed for plant food as much as for meat. How would you get started on a root vegetable (even a soft, cooked one) or leafy greens or, nowadays, a piece of bread, without them?

And we have 4 canine teeth out of a total of 32. I have read that this ratio of 1 to 8 can be interpreted to mean that during our evolution, we were heavily reliant on meat for one-eighth of our developmental history. At least theoretically, according to this one author whose name I don’t remember (this was way prior to internet) we should minimize meat to that extent.

Also, that author noted that some people’s canine teeth are larger, and some smaller. My own are utterly flat, though one has a wee hint of a slant but that’s it.

I look at people’s teeth (no, I don’t say anything) but this used to be more interesting before an apparently large portion of the population, even younger folks, are getting implants or other forms of modification that make them look like they have pasted chiclets in their mouth. White people, mostly. People from Africa and parts of the subcontinent have gorgeous teeth except for areas of near-starvation or where western diets have taken hold for a few generations. What a crime.

There are exceptions to everything dietary according to personal circumstances and need.

Slow down, Mactoul.

You are right, but Denis was only asking a question, which I (correctly) answered abt. two days ago. They also eat eggs.

If you want to jump on somebody, go to post 224 by blatant liar gryphanon, who *does* make the claim you are mis-attributing to Denis.

I think a better formulation for cognitive ethics would be not “animal rights”, but “human duties”. Meaning, since the idea of rights for anything rather than a person is not really defensible, it makes sense to ground this in the old stoic framework of duties. In this case, a human duty to conserve, preserve and minimize suffering. How to minimize suffering? –> cognitive bio-ethics.

There are naturally a lot of sensitive and even neurotic rabbit owners. They can be the perfect pet for people with a bit of emotional need. This can reflect on any pet but rabbits more likely to be chosen by such people if not cats. Rabbits are also naturally prey animals so have a different outlook on things, but that just changes their approach. They are much less bold. I’m very empathetic which helps bring out the personality of any companion animal I have owned and mine are unusual among rabbit owners for being completely free to roam, most still think they’d run away. They don’t. However most people don;t understand their habits to know how to make it work like this. My experience with their cleverness and ability to fit into a family actively however is common. There are Rabbit societies on Facebook for example where a browse through members’ daily stories and videos etc will soon demonstrate what Che Guava in his ignorance denies.

So you’ve known some poorly treated rabbits. Whoever raised those rabbits you describe evidently knows about as much about them as you do. Which is nothing. Do a bit of a search on Youtube and see how others live you presumptive twit. I just told you how mine live and they are hardly the first I’ve had. Maybe you should know more about something than having met a couple of examples by which to judge.

AK: Okay, banned.

usefulness of logic also depends on the worth of what those assumptions are based on in the first place.

Yes but you cannot see the assumptions, until you extrapolate the implications.

logical perspective, the corpses of deceased people, who after all are unable to appreciate the gesture of a burial, are better off being used as fertiliser

And it’s not a necessarily invalid point. It’s might be true.

As humans treasure different things, certain parts of morality will be subjective and non-universal.

A strange or interesting thing, are where we find something which seems universally binding. And here asking “why?” goes quickly to metaphysics (which of course we don’t understand well, at least yet)

one’s moral foundation

“Moral foundation” is not easy to find, but to start climb around the topic requires logic as our scaffolding.

This is where the quoted text of Singer and comments of MrXYZ looks very good (sign of potential intelligence) as they are trying to extrapolate logical consequences of previously accepted assumptions.

Obviously there is something wrong with their conclusion, so then you have to look back at assumptions.

Because if there is not a mistake of logic, then the implications are part of those assumptions.

2500 years ago, Socrates already would see this situation for every imaginable topic.

so there is a need to develop coherent answers to these questions.

Answers will not be easy to find. The important thing on the social or political level is that in society there is space for free-thinkers to explore every implication of any ideas, about anything – which is another way to say, space for intellligent men to act like conscious (or self-programming) human beings. .

What a lot of rubbish on rabbits, from my two case observations, pet rabbits
cower from their owners, the owners have the bizarre conceit ‘my bunny loves me’.

The bunny clearly is in a panic state most of the time when in contact with anyone, including the keeper.

The bunny owners lie to themselves about it. There may be exceptional rabbits that do not fit what I describe, but I have never seen an example.

“We can at least all agree, at a minimum, that plants don’t have sentience, so veganism is one philosophically and logically consistent option. ”

Uh what? Why would I agree to that? Plants do not have sentience as we know it.

And what is logically consistent with vegans having pets that are obligate carnivores , or driving animals off habitat?

Much too unnecessary words, digressions, distractions. This article failed to impress me. Rule: always use parsimony and analogous examples before abstractions and symbols.

1. The Paleo Diet has been amply demonstrated as the most healthful and compatible diet for human digestion and metabolism.

2. Logically, then it follows that all edible animals should be raised without pain and fear, which is an enormous improvement over life in the wild. As an index and comparator, domestic cats have only an average lifetime of 3 years versus a decade and a half as a sheltered creature.

3. The harvested animal should be killed with no prescience and away from other animals, likewise unaware. What kind of life quality does prey animal have in raw Nature?

4. Many aboriginal people solemnly expressed overt and ceremonial gratitude to the creature that gave its flesh in order for their people to live.

5. All this is being practiced by intelligent survivalist Whites in the hinterlands of Alaska. Much more impressive, Mr. Karlin, than your high level of excessive and peripheral starchy and muddled fillers. Induction and the empirical trump repetition and Pure Ideas (Nikos Kazantzakis) of mostly internal logic and unexamined pedicates.

6. Slightly modified Buddhism and nutritional science are more efficient and convincing than a meandering flood plain of useless data and so many unsubstantiated opinions and comments

An incidental reply, and Mike Tyson seems quite wise, after burning through all the many millions of dollars from his boxing career (which included biting more than once) on parties, expensive whores and drugs, and more excessive suppliers of those, one cannot be sorry for him (he is getting money from recent media appearances, to keep him at least just well above upper-middle class for life).

I find the biting worse than distasteful, but the interview with him that a younger (and fly or welter) boxer in Japan was showing me, except for the ugly tatoos, Tyson seemed pretty (very) sensible.

Get back to me, when you can legitimately explain why humans evolved having incisors and canine teeth, un-needed to consume plants.