You are still spouting wrong shit while typing frantically.

1) TMNT is associated with japanese culture, the fact japanese culture is inspired by China doesn’t matter, because ninja is a japanese thing. You are demonstrately wrong but you still say this bullshit, even when your analyst you quote says different. And yes, the fact foreigners make media influenced by jap culture shows the strength of jap soft power, WORLDWIDE because people want to be associated with japanese culture.

2). Bruce’s most successful film in HK was Fist of Fury, which is Bruce dressed in western white cloth fighting against japs, while Bruce’s most successful film ever was Enter the Dragon where he fights against the westerners, and not about China pride or whatever but as a special agent HIRED by the brits, that is literally joining the international pool.

You are wrong and continue to be wrong, my only question: why?

And how am I unhinged?

That’s Canadian dollars btw, not rupees or rubels or whatever fake currency people are using.

That’s funny. I usually chuck leaf-bucks into the Monopoly money pile. If your money isn’t backed by oil and arab blood, it ain’t worth shit.

They have no argument left. It is futile for you to attenmpt honest engagement with these sterile zombies.
They, these so called “centrists” or “right-wing”, with their negro level reasoning and halfwit sophistry, are the reason why the west is now the (((west))).
Boohoo, asians are copying us. All the while forgetting the rule of nature and what we did to build our legacies. And the fact that nobody stopped the voluntary exchange of tech to Asia.
Not to mention the fact that all of science and engineering are built on top of eachother.
It is not even self pitying, it is drivel of impotency.

The more time I spend observing these so called “right wingers”, the more fatalistic I become.

try to imagine how the world would look if there were 1.4 billion Swedes or Jews

Lol, is this retard for real?
Either brutal extermination by the hands of thankfully long dead warlike Swedes or an even more insane liberal faggot dystopia than the (((west))) currently is.
I havent seen any breakthrough from Sweden lately except in the export of poisonous liberalism.
And you are furthering the myth of kike “geniuses” too. You are a stooge. All the talk about muh west and you are lumping in the plagiarizing kikes who forever taint European science.
Fuck off.

Yeah I have to type fast because I dont have so much spare time to reply back to you.

1 – Actually the art of the ninja – like Zen buddhism are what Japan adapted from China. But in any event children watching it dont associate either of them with Japan nor China. You do realize that TMNT was not created by Japanese right? That is like saying Big Trouble in Little China or even Airbender counts as Chinese soft power. Maybe indirectly – but not directly.

2 – already addressed… Bruce was clear on who he was and what he did. Some of my kindred were involved in that i dustry back then. Everyone in Hong Kong considered themselves Chinese then amd were taking up the mantle for the Chinese people. None of Bruce stuff he did in Hong Kong was meant to appease the west – even though he invited westerners. The whole point of his films was he was saving Chinese people from disgrace by westerners and Japanese. In fact much Hong Kong film in those days was about that. Many even were against Manchu rule during the Qing. You dont understand context.

The rest of your comment is just unhinged

I have the feeling that Westerners really are smarter in original thought and inventions, while the Chinese are strong at taking other people’s inventions and produce stuff at “China prices” thereby making money by selling cheap.

So, let the West wins all the Nobel Prizes and China does the manufacturing. I certainly won’t object to such a division of labour that employs the strengths of both to the benefit of all.

Neither Asia nor China are monolithic entities. The same can be said of the Caucasian world.

Though the Chinese are highly intelligent on average, I would estimate per-capita genius in China to be on par with Pakistan, given the paucity of Nobel-worthy discoveries. There are Chinese outliers, of course, but the IQ distribution is narrower with a shorter “right-tail.” To put this in context, a few million Swedes have contributed more to the advancement of civilization than billions of Chinese. As a thought experiment, try to imagine how the world would look if there were 1.4 billion Swedes or Jews.

The entire world is still confined in its actions and aspirations by the imagination of an infinitesimal number of geniuses (both living and dead) overwhelming of Jewish or Protestant ancestry. Everyone else is a slave of their imagination; their lives will be spent materializing what the geniuses imagined.

Just as the Chinese migrant laborers spent their energy to materialize the Protestant vision of California, the Chinese today spend their enormous energy materializing the Protestant-Jewish vision of the world. Whether the Chinese lead the development of fusion or quantum computing, they are still advancing a foreign vision and serving the foreign cult of genius. The Protestant-Jewish elite have always viewed the Chinese as docile and industrious–the ideal slave class. They have long wished that the whole world would be more like China.

“Africa for the Chinese” (Galton, 1873):
https://galton.org/letters/africa-for-chinese/AfricaForTheChinese.htm

The Chinese drive forward where the roads have already been paved. They are not trailblazers and never have been.

If China is doing something, you can bet your house it was done before.

Just last week, the China claimed it achieved quantum supremacy

10 billion times faster than the google’s 53 qbit prototype? That cannot be true. Chinese cannot innovate and you can bet some white dude have done it two hundred year ago.

Do you suffer any physical symptoms from the cognitive dissonance that this news must have induced? Must be quite embarrassing to have oneself proven wrong on an outrageous claim one made just a week ago.

Anyway, it is quite disconcerting to see someone contradict himself so readily just so to pander to his host.

The findings in your article on COVID as biowarfare blowback are indeed surprising.

Look, we don’t care about evidence on this site. Who needs empirical evidence when you can have conspiracy theories? Anything that contradicts any wild theory published on this site must be wrong. The paper below is definitely wrong.

https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa1785/6012472

I just rechecked, it’s 10^14; even more ominous.

Mr. Unz,

Thank you for the thorough reply. I’ve been thinking about it for quite some time.

I added your articles to my fall reading list. “China’s Rise, America’s Fall” was excellent. I agree with the overarching thesis that the West has been preoccupied with trivialities (e.g., is Iraq democratic enough?) while China continues to vigorously build and advance.

The findings in your article on COVID as biowarfare blowback are indeed surprising. Has new evidence emerged since April to support this theory?

Just last week, the China claimed it achieved quantum supremacy, with a quantum computer based on Boson sampling which exceeds the speed of the most powerful supercomputers by a factor of 10^13. Perhaps all that state investment in science and technology is starting to pay off and your bullish vision of China will materialize much sooner than America’s elites would like to believe.

Bitch please, trade is always preset for conquer.

That’s why asians can never trust christians, especially the priests.

They always come, peddle their bullshit cult, get killed and their home countries cry oppression and use their deaths to attack asian countries.

This is why Asians must stay clear of Abrahamic cult, for some reasons, Islam seems to be relatively tame though, maybe because it embraces a bunch of asian traditions.

It’s not as if the Europeans, other than the New World Spanish and Imperial Russia, set out to conquer new lands until the Scramble for Africa. They went to trade not conquer. The Dutch and the French were rather robust at times. The Portugese, Danes and the British less so. Local actors got greedy. That was a big mistake.

Yet another country like Belarus, Ukraine, Jordan, Kuwait, the UAE, sometimes Georgia where there is a small British team providing training support. There may be others.

You are typing frantically.

1) Turtles that are trained in ninjutsu and fight with japanese weapons, learned from japanese virtues (fidelity to master, brotherly love between students), use zen meditation techniques to train and clear the mind, ARE not based on japanese culture? Really now, can you be THAT dishonest? Everyone loves TMNT because it’s not only turtles, it’s NINJA turtles.

2) Mainland China had not, and that’s a FLAW, now they celebrate Bruce Lee and they make martial art films, so they in fact learn soft power from Bruce Lee. And yes, Bruce Lee style is a hybrid, he mixes in boxing and even ballet dancing in his style, because even he knows the traditional wing chun taught is fake as shit. And yes I watch Bruce Lee films you boomer, his famous ones like Fist of Fury is a Hong Kong jap revenge flick based on the legend of Shen Zhen (I do like the Jet Li version better), and Way of the Dragon, which is like the precursor of Street Fighter where he infiltrates a martial tournament and fight against other styles. And the point is while CTHD is filmed in China, is about China, but it doesn’t do much in Asia, I don’t know why, maybe they omit the screening.

3) Now I know you aren’t an asian or at least some kind asian amelican mutt, asians huddle together in this white-controlled world, that’s why asian media is consumed by asian and why chinks like stuff like anime and jap samurai, and japs love chink martial artists and films. And viets love both.

4) And yes, the westerners do get empathy, politeness and hard-working as part of japanese virtues, which is a bigger part in asian virtues. Again, YOUR analyst even says that! These are unmistakenly japanese and larger asian virtues, the westerners are about muh frankness, muh freedom, muh individuality.

5) I don’t even know where you arrive at the part I’m japanese, but maybe because I’m actual asian, so my thinking is different than your and d dan who seem very westernized, but indeed, race and culture are intertwined, BUT both are equally important. There’s no point to all the race shit if you are some kind of “Asian amelican” mutt who grows up watching gangster movies and becomes some azn gangbangers. BUT there’s some good if asians grow up watching stuff like Bruce Lee movies, Akira Kurosawa movies or Dragonball, Mazinger Z or Doraemon, that shit BUILDScharacter and confidence for asian going forward and teaches what asian culture is.

Again, putting race in a pedestal, that itself is a flaw of white nationalism, and why the white niggers in America degrade so much, they ONLY have vulgar racism. Asian nationalism must go deeper, which is the preservation of asian race AND culture, because nature and nurture are both important. I have a feeling asian americans are so fucked because aside from the fact they face outright racism, their community/culture link was cut from the homeland.

2) Turtles hanging out in the sewer of NYC and eating pizza is Japanese culture? Ok – got ya

3) do you have any sense??? that’s what happens when you stick your nose in the wrong comments. that comment I made about HK was in relation to a conversation with another poster. the point I made to them is that Mainland China had zero interest in soft power. It was Hong Kong and Taiwan that pushed Chinese culture to the outside world. Do you even know the plots or the writing in Bruce Lee films??? He left no question about what he was pushing and it wasn’t some hybrid. And ironically about Crouching Tiger is that though it was filmed in the Mainland and had some mainland stars – it was written and directed by Taiwanese. Had it been done by mainlanders they wouldn’t have even cared to put it to the outside.

5) Asians don’t need soft power for other Asians. You are blabbering and based on your lack of critical thinking I doubt you are Asian

6) westerners get politeness and empathy and hard work from Japan???? You really are nuts. I don’t think you are Vietnamese at all. You must be Japanese. Also in case you didn’t know race and culture are intertwined…

Practicing your house-niggery again, Smithie. This time towards the non-white Japs instead of white Russians!!!

Dealt with Deep Thought like a dog, now it’s time to clean up this old boomer Singy chink.

I will continue to insult you as long as you demonstrate your lack of understanding of culture and aesthetics, and show more outdated thinkings that leads asians to embrace isolationism.

1) Ninja Gaiden is one of the most popular game series with the most prestige and critical reception on the market. Sales figures are not the only indication of popularity, word of mouth and critical reception also are.

2) That’s wrong, western kids clearly do know Pokemon is japanese, even your analyst shows that, and TMNT is inspired by japanese culture. Those aren’t even my opinion, it’s factual. And not only Pokemon, but Sonic, Mario, Zelda and even Dark Souls, all the western kids know these are jap games, hell, you can ask any kids (western or eastern).

3) The fact HK is occupied by the brits doesn’t mean the wuxia and martial art made by HKers movies extol anglo/western culture. Ironically, it’s them who push chink culture to the West, and now (mainland) China copies them. For your knowledge, Bruce Lee’s entire thing is that he modernizes the depiction of chinese martial arts in the western world and catches fame, the japanese revenge genre is popular in Hong Kong before him, but Bruce brought it to the world stage, and he did in a western tracksuit. Then he makes Hollywood movies and hire westerners to play fight with him. His philosophy follows the soft power of the japs, which is not the form (race), but the essence (culture) that is spread among all races in the world.

4) No, Spirited Away did more overall (home office + international) than CTHD, that’s what sales figures tell, 300 million vs 200 million. CTHD only does well ironically only in the US and the UK, even its Taiwan box office was small.

5) Every asian (even vietnamese) back from the 90s onward consume jap manga, anime, video games as well as Hong Kong TVB shows, the fact you don’t know this shows you aren’t an asian, again, are you some kind of white boomer in hiding in Singy?

6) Again wrong, jap culture nowadays is all over the west, from their virtues (hard working, empathy, politeness, order, even wackiness, found in all of their media), to their fashion, to their weapons and to their food, all brought abroad by their soft power. Meanwhile european and american goods are modified to japanese standards and cultural norms in Japan to fit Japan taste! You are clinging to RACIAL REPRESENTATION, not soft power, which is CULTURAL INFLUENCE. Ironically, Bruce Lee proves you wrong back then by modernizing his style and discard outdated traditions found in chinese martial arts and spreading that art to foreigners/westerners.

House-niggers staying true to their white masters:

https://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/mxp/speeches/mxt29.html

Malcolm tells the parable of “house Negro.”
…

We stayed true to those allies who help us, respect us and do not invade us.

House-niggers ALWAYS “stayed true” to their white masters.

Mao was an opportunist who shakes hand with the devil to hurt his ally,

Khrushchev was the opportunist who “shook hands” with Kennedy in order to hurt China and got “fucked” by Kennedy– not China– instead. Brezhnev wanted to nuke China with murrika’s consent but got rebuffed.

He played both sides when he was in power in the 60s, but then he becomes a chinkie CIA puppet, those two facts aren’t mutually exclusive.

If he indeed played both sides, then he was the puppet master, instead of the puppet.

All the others are also recycled craps from you that I have already ridiculed.

The ungrateful viets:

Chinese Support for North Vietnam during the Vietnam War: The Decisive Edge
by Bob Seals

“Thus the highest realization of warfare is to attack the enemy plans;� according to the learned military theorist Sun-Tzu in the Art of War. [69] In respects this is exactly what the North Vietnamese, and Chinese did in both Vietnam Wars: they successfully attacked the Western powers war plans. The considerable support for the DRV by the PRC, to include a promise to intervene with massive numbers of troops in the event of an invasion of North Vietnam, effectively eliminated this course of action, and perhaps others, as potential war winning options for the West. Thus, with the support of China, on a strategic level of war the DRV was able to remain upon the offensive throughout the war, maintaining the initiative and finally achieving victory as Saigon fell in April of 1975.

.

I still don’t buy the argument that China’s per capita GDP will increase to 20K, and then stop, as if that is some kind of immutable law. That no country outside the West will ever get past the middle income trap. It’s nonsense really.

The surprising thing is not that China’s GDP per capita is increasing but that it isn’t in fact higher than most Western countries. They have a smarter, more unified, technologically gifted population, with no dumbing down of their education system, no affirmative action, no huge racial problems and to my mind less corruption. The also don’t have a global empire to maintain, and to my mind no desire for one. A local hegemony, maybe.

Why then is their urban GDP ( at least) not able to catch up to the West? It is, as we know, catching up on Eastern Europe.

All the supposed minefields in their future ( ageing and debt for instance) are either solvable or not a real issue, and/or are worse for the west or America.

You arent too bright… Classic example of someone who lacks reasoning ability – so has to resort to insults. And you are replying to a comment not directed at you but failed to address the one I did.

1) No Ninja Gaiden was nowhere as popular. Sales tell the story.

2) western kids did not think of teenage mutant ninja turtles nor Pokemon as Japanese…. Which in terms of Pokemon was on purpose. That is not my opinion.

3) when Bruce Lee was alive Hong Kong was not China. It was a part of the British Empire. Its really sad how clueless you are. Bruce Lee’s films were all about defending Chinese honor but he himself while ethnically Chinese was a US citizen who grew up in the British territory of Hong Kong. You really think you are smart but are clueless.

Spritited Away did best in Japan and second best in China. Everywhere else it was a niche product. That is a fact of numbers not opinion.

Are you pretending to be Japanese now? Did you forget you are supposed to be Japanese?

End of story – your soft power is weak when you have to cater to foreigners to make yourself palatable. If you have real soft power they take you as you are. Americans and secondarily Europeans have real soft power. Asians do – but not so much in the western world. In the western world in spite of your prejudiced against Chinese opinion – Japanese are known as hard working – but little is really known about the overall culture.

Aw look at the mad chink, flailing around, accusing everyone to be “backstab� him, first the viets, now the ruskies, I wonder what’s next? The entire world for not bowing to them LOL?

The house-niggers in America of old “always stay true� to their white masters. You make me laugh by saying the same about Ho and the viets.

We stayed true to those allies who help us, respect us and do not invade us. The USSR is that, and remember chink, no USSR, no PRC. Mao was an opportunist who shakes hand with the devil to hurt his ally, the entire Sino-Soviet split was started by him wanting to be the biggest communist around, and the 3rd world friend spends his last days propping up terrorists in Cambodia, very funny.
And no, Ho Chi Minh was no one’s puppet, his policy is Independence, no occupation from anyone, allies included.

Then you are merely admitting you were saying crap with this “played both sides� comment earlier! Can you NOT bite your own tongue whenever you talk?

How? He played both sides when he was in power in the 60s, but then he becomes a chinkie CIA puppet, those two facts aren’t mutually exclusive.

It was “no puppet government and can perform its own politics� only AFTER “ex-Khmer rouge party members� went “back into the government�– you said that yourself!!! Something that the viets hate to see. “its own politics� is for Cambodian interest and against viet political control. The Cambodians do that because “They have suffered enough already� in the hands of the viets land murrikans.

Really now? They (Ex-Khmer Rouge) wanted to focus on Cambodian interests so much that they themselves terrorize and support those who bomb their own country? They are so sick by the viet and muricans that they are entirely funded by chinkies and muricans to be against viet? No, that’s not Cambodia’s interest, it is USA and China’s interest. Cambodia suffers the most during the reign of CIA and chink backed Pol Pot.

SINCE “what the Cambodians do, it’s their business�, then whatever Pol Pot did to other Cambodians must be Cambodian business! Therefore, it could NOT have been China’s fault. You contradict yourself yet again.

It is entirely China’s fault because China chooses to invade Vietnam in defense of Pol Pot, who attacks and massacres Vietnam IN Vietnam’s territories.

The fact that the Cambodians accept Sihanouk descendant as royal head proves his symbolic political importance to the Cambodians.

You said it yourself, a symbolic figure, a puppet. So much for Cambodian liberation, all he does is being pushed around by greater powers and actual man-in-power like Hun Sen.

Hun Sen is no longer a “viet-man�. He merely “played� the viets for his own ascendancy and the interests of his own country.

Hun Sen is a Cambodian, not a “viet-man�, he can choose to pursuit whatever cause he wishes, as long as he doesn’t make the same mistake of Pol Pot and invade Vietnam.

There should NEVER have been a “Viet government in Cambodia� AT ALL– unless it was a puppet of the viets!!! If you can accept a “Viet government in Cambodia�, why can’t you accept a “murrikan government� in nam�??? Show some consistency, please!

The Viet government in Cambodia is created to safeguard the Cambodian people from CIA chinkies terrorists like Pol Pot, not to dominate and colonize natives like the murican government in Vietnam.

Also, SINCE “what the Cambodians do, it’s their business�, it therefore is up to the Cambodians to decide whether Cambodia should “allow liberal democracy and privatization� or not. It is NOT up to the viets to decide!!! What you have said merely betrays the viets’ imperialist intentions in Cambodia.

Is it in their interests though? Did they vote for that or is entirely pressure from US or China? Liberal democracy and privatization are not policies that help the common folks, and Cambodian suffer to this day due to these policies.

Who is your “They�? Why does “they� are cham or not matter? A very weird statement.

“They� are foreigners who aren’t even cham people? Why do they matter? If they care about cham people so much, they should visit Vietnam to see them.

Not when they were being conquered and butchered by the viets.

As opposed to? Again, they are living peacefully in Vietnam.

China has similar claims too. The fact is that nam has grabbed the most islets in SCS and almost ALL of what it has grabbed lie in other people’s economic zones according to the UNCLOS. And those other countries are NOT taking any actions against vietnam’s occupation of these islets. So, who is the aggressor?

LOL no, China’s claim is destroyed every times it’s brought up since it has NO historical artifacts or proof of colonization of these islands chains, and they are opposed by every maritime ASEAN countries because their nine-dash-line cuts deep into their EEZ, and actually enforced by a fleet of militia and fishermen that start trouble all over the region. Meanwhile, Vietnam’s holding of these islands are entirely a reaction to chink’s illegal island grab.

Uncle Ho was also “whisked away� in China in his younger days. If I remember correctly, he actually became a member of the CCP. When it was his time to liberate his country from the French and the murrikans, China gave him ALL the “guns and weapons for free�– and MORE. So again, you seem to believe that the viets have UNLIMITED entitlements from whoever they want, but others canNOT even have one bit!!! Very strange, and ungrateful, mentality that is special to the viets!!!

Uncle Ho was a member of MANY communist parties, even in Europe, he cooperated with the CCP and the CCCP and received aids from all the 2nd world bloc. He isn’t beholden to China. The chinks, meanwhile, only wanted him to hold the North because they wanted a way to appease the muricans, to repeat the North vs South Korea situation. Uncle Ho told them to fuck off. And no, chinkie imperialist like you, who think he’s “entitled� to vassal, can fuck right off.

Like Ho and his gang was– See the links about massacres of innocent Vietnamese by the vietcong and north viet armies. Again, according to you, only the viets are entitled to do that but the Cambodians can’t– even when doing evil!

These were mistakes in war or land reforms, which happen in every revolution ever, it cannot be compared to the likes of Pol Pot, who massacres his own people and other ethnics, got ousted, then got paid by CIA chinkies to become a bandit in Thailand’s border to kill more and rob more.

The wrong-doings were Pol Pot’s in Cambodia, and Ho’s and his gang’s when the same of things were done in nam. Why blame China for them?

The wrong-doings were not limited in Cambodia, Pol Pot invaded and massacred Vietnamese in Vietnam’s territory, and thus prompted the Viet invasion. Meanwhile, Vietnam has done nothing against China, but get immediately invaded because it dares stop Pol Pot. And when Vietnam comes to Cambodia to help stabilize things, muricans and chinkies team up to fund Pol Pot and Sihanouk for 10 years to rob, kill and sanctions both Cambodia and Vietnam. So yes, it is China’s fault, hell, it is China’s crimes.

The Pol Pot and Sihanouk combination saved their country by making Cambodia nam’s OWN “Vietnam�. The Sihanouk family are accepted and respected by the Cambodian people as their royal family– something that the delusional viet choose to pretend otherwise.

Nah, Pol Pot and Sihanouk combined to form banditry, with no government, no policy to help people, but just to steal and rob, with foreign funding, Vietnam didn’t encounter “Vietnam� in Cambodia, but CIA chinkies terrorists. Vietnam is forced back by the unjust massive sanctions by the whole world (China included), not these bandits. Sihanouk, meanwhile, goes back to be a little puppet, cared by Hun Sen LOL and Pol Pot lies death in the jungle like the bandit he is.

Ho would have been driven into the South China Sea had Mao not promised to intervene massively on his, and nam’s, behalf if the murrikan armies dared to cross into north nam. Ho and his gang turned ungrateful back-stabbers afterwards. That is why the Chinese don’t trust the viets anymore.

Mao can promise the sea, but it was the threat of USSR’s nukes that helps deter the americans. And I like the fact you think Uncle Ho is a “back-stabber�, while it’s you chinks who back-stab the USSR and Vietnam and the whole 2nd bloc by shaking hands with Great Satan.

“Granted�, yes, “granted�, a very revealing word– about YOU that is! When I was in England…

Oh, another “Asian amelican�, as expected. And yes, granted, you read that right. Seethe more chink dog, that word is 100% accurate, the USSR granted these terriroties back to chinkies, they pity those dogs and of course, these dogs want more and more and more. They want their imperial territories back, not solidary or helping the world.

Before his unfortunate early death, Lenin did offer to return to China territories grabbed by Tsarist Russia.

Yeah, I’m sure he would offer them to the Kuomingtan, another bunch of capitalist imperialist.

This “house-nigger� mentality may be an innate instinct of the viets, but it is NOT a Chinese one. You are indeed winning your well-deserved, and “delicious�, position of being a house-nigger of the white Russians, and probably white murrikans too. It is so refreshing to know your inner thought!

Truly “Asian amelican�, their thinking is alien to actual asian, what we have is respect, trust and friendship to our allies. Meanwhile you chinks scream “house-nigger� while backstabbing the USSR, and every your allies to side with Great Satan and destabilize your own neighbors. You have the “treacherous dog’ mentality, and that’s why you will go down.

If that is true, it means that the Chinese leaders were wedded to the interest of China and the Chinese people.

If the interest of the Chinese people and China is to backstab, ruin alliance and shake hands with Great Satan to hurt their own allies and neighbors, the Chinese people and China do not deserve anything because they would be “treacherous dogs�.

Khrushchev had already made its own “rapprochement� with murrika– behind China’s back– until he was “fucked� (your word) by Kennedy and then he lost power. And Brezhnev had asked murrika’s permission for nuking China but was REFUSED. What makes you think that only the viets have the right to look after thier own security and interest but the Chinese don’t have that right to defend themselves from the back-stabbing Russians and viets???!!! YOU are “beyond ridiculous�!

Ah yes, great logic, Kruschev and Breznev “backstabbed� China by wanting to co-exist with the muricans but not wanting to side with muricans to attack China, so what’s Mao gonna do? Of course, team up with muricans and together with them fuck the USSR. Great logic of a treacherous, Cao Cao-like mentality. Now of course, anyone who is against this duplicity is an “Asian amelikan�, never mind the fact China being the best and most loyal “Asian amelikan� who now wishes to co-exist and have great friendship with their master whiteys.
LOL, yes, beyond ridiculous. At first I feel angry, now I just feel pity for you, chink dog.

So you are asking question despite knowing the answers. And no, Ho Chi Minh has always stayed true to his ally and teacher, the USSR. Mao was an ally of the USSR but turns against it, and the whole 2nd world.

The house-niggers in America of old “always stay true” to their white masters. You make me laugh by saying the same about Ho and the viets.

Mao was a leader of China and a friend of the 3rd world countries. He was his OWN master. Khrushchev and Brezhnev, who wanted Mao to be merely a bigger Ho and turned against China. They found out the hard way.

On the other hand, it was Ho, and his gang, who back-stabbed Mao, and China, despite the crucial role the latter had played in helping the former to unite their country.

Very interesting. As a person of Chinese descent, I have often wondered why Europeans /people of European descent were/are more innovative(than Asians, even other non European ethnic groups)…

Current Chinese and Asians in general DO NOT explore and travel. You will find Japanese and South Koreans off the beaten path but it is rare. Asians visiting Paris, Venice, London or New York is not “travelling”. Americans in general are also guilty of NOT exploring or travelling. Visiting the Grand Canyon and Las Vegas do NOT count. If you have travelled the corners of the World, off the beaten path, you will find Western Europeans, Australians and Canadians most often. Miriam Beard says, “Travel is more than the seeing of sights; it is a change that goes on, deep and permanent, in the ideas of living”. I believe this is the core of creativity and explains why the Early Europeans were so successful post 1600’s.

This is a chart created by Ray Dalio in his research. It accounts for multiple dimensions like science and trade. Some of these areas arguably were weaker for China at that time. Instead of arguing over small areas of discrepancies, it is useful to observe the arc of where things have been and where they are headed. Unless miracle happens, China and the U.S. will soon switch places. From where I stand, there is just nothing that could change this dynamic. We will be number two. It is just a matter of time.

You are losing this argument, and it’s delicious, guess it’s this one you won’t save in a future copypasta.

Of course, he played both sides. That is always the way the weak survives between the strongs. Uncle Ho played both sides too– the Chinese, the Russians. Through some OSS officer, he even tried to get murikans to support him against the French, I believe.

So you are asking question despite knowing the answers. And no, Ho Chi Minh has always stayed true to his ally and teacher, the USSR. Mao was an ally of the USSR but turns against it, and the whole 2nd world.

IF Sihanouk “played both sides�, then it means Sihanouk WAS the master who was playing both puppets– NOT being the puppet himself!!

Again, no, he was a puppet pushed around by Beijing and CIA, one day Beijing tells him to go lick Pol Pot’s ass, another day Beijing tells him to go the UN. His strings are high above.

The Cambodian government, you admits in your previous post that it now “quietly opposes Vietnam on the South East Asia sea issue�. Whatever regime the viets built exist in name only.

That shows it is no puppet government and can perform its own politics, and no, what the Cambodians do, it’s their business. They have suffered enough already.

That is not so according to the Cambodian people, who still regard his family as Cambodia’s Royal Family.

The Cambodian’s Royal head is entirely for show, the power lies in the government head by Hun Sen.

If “ex-Khmer rouge party members� went “back into the government�. That proves that your claim about the durability of the regime the viets installed is just a uselss face saving exercise.

It’s true, the Viet government in Cambodia was damaged post 90s by the meddling of the UN, americans and China, that’s why it allows liberal democracy and privatization, but ruling party is still the same behind what we viets left behind. And the more it liberalizes, the worse it will get for the Cambodians.

The viet did the same thing: “The case of the fallen Champa, by Suleiman Idres Bin�. There is something common about the viet and Pol Pot.

I google that and look at what I found:
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/vietnamese-conquest-of-muslim-hindu-cham-and-their-current-situation.265898/
Oh yes, more enraged foreigners about cham people, they are not even cham LOL and again btw, the cham people nowadays live freely in Vietnam.

The Xishas was and is Chinese territory.

You mean Paracels/Hoang Sa, no, both island chains we have been colonized by the viets since the 15th century.
And now, we don’t even want either of them, but just clear UNCLOS following the UN laws.

China also had “diplomatic dialogues� with Sihanouk and the Khmer Rouge when that helps in liberating Cambodian territory.

China whisks away Sihanouk and then stores him in Pyongjang, and only summons him back as a face for CIA bandits to rally upon LOL even the Khmer rouge, his unlikely ally, hates his coward ass but uses his “royaltyâ€� as casus belli. And I didn’t know “diplomatic dialogues” involves literally sending him guns and weapons for free.

Sihanouk wanted to liberate Cambodia.

No, he doesn’t. He works directly with CIA and chinks in order to terrorize his own country near the Thailand’s border, working with Pol Pot. In fact, he’s the troublemaker.

China never apologized for the vietcong and North viet army massacres either– BECAUSE China supported their fight against the murrikan invaders but NOT their massacres of the viet people.

China shouldn’t because there was no wrongdoing there, unlike Pol Pot. These “massacres� or “atrocities�, if indeed true, are small mistakes in comparison to what Ho Chi Minh has achieved for Vietnam.

“Pol Pot and Sihanouk� BOTH had their own reasons to bite the viets and they used Chinese support to their own ends– Just like Uncle Ho did against the murrikans. By saying that, you are only admitting Ho and his gang are “criminals� like Pol Pot and Sihanouk .

Both Pol Pot and Sihanouk lost their country, then decided to side with foreign powers to terrorize their own people. Uncle Ho fought the japs, the frenchs, and later the americans for the sake of his people and he never allowed even (friendly) foreign troops to occupy Vietnam. He will always be remembered well by viets and the international world as a national hero and leader, unlike the likes of Pol Pot and Sihanouk, hell, or the likes of Meo and Dung LOL
Oh and the Sino-Soviet split is entirely based on Meo’s greed

Despite the Soviet Union having granted all of the territory of the Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo to Mao’s communists in 1945, decisively assisting the communists in the Chinese Civil War, the Chinese now indirectly demanded territorial concessions on the basis that the 19th-century treaties transferring ownership of the sparsely populated Outer Manchuria, concluded by Qing dynasty China and the Russian Empire, were “Unequal Treaties”, and amounted to annexation of rightful Chinese territory.

At the funeral of Ho Chi Minh

At the same time, Nixon’s message via Maurer had reached the Chinese, and it was decided in Beijing to “whet the appetite of the Americans” by making China appear stronger.[36] Zhou argued that a war with the Soviet Union would weaken China’s hand vis-a-vis the United States.[36] The Chinese were more interested in the possibility of a rapprochement with the United States as a way of re-acquiring Taiwan than in having the United States as an ally against the Soviet Union.

How can anybody have respect for these traitors is beyond me, it’s beyond ridiculous.

What the hell? Like emperor Qianglongs China was weaker economically, politically or militarilly than UK and the Dutch? Humbug! Utter nonsense! Only after the industrialization really began in the early 19th centuy, did the UK grow stronger.

When “America’s Deputy Sherriff in Asia” “wants to lead”:

Atrocities included the murder of two 14-year-old boys, who had their throats slit by Australian troops and subsequently had their bodies bagged up and dumped in a river.

The academic Randa Abdel Fattah wrote that the behaviour of the Australian soldiers was not the work of ‘bad apples’, and could not be extricated from the wider issues of white supremacy and western militarism.

“Anybody half conscious since 2001 will have witnessed the political & media dehumanisation of Afghans as enemies, terrorists, disposable. Where’s the surprise in all this? THIS is who White Australia is. Not an aberration, but war crimes two decades in the training.â€� Abdel Fattah wrote.

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/slitting-the-throats-of-boys-anger-as-report-details-australia-war-crimes-41616

Video Link

And Morrison blames China for telling the truth:

https://asiatimes.com/2020/11/chinese-officials-tweet-repugnant-australian-pm/

“I am sorry, but anyone who espouses soft power over hard power would be really brain damaged.

The American military budget should slap you silly.

The Chinese around 1900 would probably kill you on sight for saying something so stupid.

The America today would not exist.

Saddam is crawling out of his grave to strangle you with the rope that hanged him.

Soft power comes naturally with hard power. With money. With status.

Telling the chinese to forsake hard power to pursue soft power is the same as telling them to commit suicide.”

Who said “to forsake hard power to pursue soft power”? What is this? A Zero sum game between Hard and Soft power? Stiff engineer thinking perhaps. Hard power is necessary but soft power will smooth the process. Soft power do not come from Hard Power. “Soft power comes naturally with hard power. With money. With status.” as you said, exposed your ignorance of Soft Power. Many people with no money have more soft power than the rich folks. Maybe you think Soft Power is to buy people’s favor. That’s not soft power. That’s bribery. The money stops, the fawning stops. Soft power comes from free-will. The US is very powerful but how about soft power? Not much from the hardliners but a lot of soft power from the progressive side. Why? Because people can identify with it.

Italy and Japan definitely does not have the hard power and they multiplied their powers tenfold because of their soft power. As messed up as both countries in many areas.

You know why people can still get away with accusing China of organ harvesting, being dirty, poor, disease spreader, concentration camps, human rights violations? When it is so easy to dispel these. With nerdy engineers at the helm, they will respond like as though they are building a bridge. Will not work. Like I said before, it is like a math nerd with no social skills trying to teach others now to get girls. Probably methodically, theoretical but lack any practical results in real life.

Sihanouk played both sides when he was head of state in the 60s, and yes , he “allowed� it.

Of course, he played both sides. That is always the way the weak survives between the strongs. Uncle Ho played both sides too– the Chinese, the Russians. Through some OSS officer, he even tried to get murikans to support him against the French, I believe. But, to the whites, skin colour is thicker than ideals. So, Ho had to rely on the Chinese instead.

Sihanouk was pretty much a puppet pushed around, first by the US, and then China.

IF Sihanouk “played both sides”, then it means Sihanouk WAS the master who was playing both puppets– NOT being the puppet himself!!! Can you, at least, TRY not contradicting yourself?

If Pol Pot hated “both� so much, why does he become a CIA bandit and enjoys full western and chink support to kill and destabilize his own people?

Maybe, Pol Pot too tried to become a puppet master? He turned out to be not so successful as Sihanouk– probably due to the fact that he “kill and destabilize his own people”.

That “regime� is still existing today, with a name change and market liberalization, the ruling party is the Cambodian People Party i.e. Hun Sen’s party that was built by Viets post-Pol Pot.

The Cambodian government, you admits in your previous post that it now “quietly opposes Vietnam on the South East Asia sea issue”. Whatever regime the viets built exist in name only.

Today’s North Korea is still the same North Korea– it is even ruled by the same Kim family.

No, Sihanouk lost every legitimacy when he supported Pol Pot/Khmer Rouge by China and US’s advice, he essentially becomes just another puppet like Puyi or Ming Mang, used by foreign powers to destabilize home country.

That is not so according to the Cambodian people, who still regard his family as Cambodia’s Royal Family.

See above why Sihanouk was not a puppet. And see above how you bite your own tongue every time you talk!!!

The same way the US does to any of its enemy, massive amount of propaganda. Cambodia and Vietnam states still enjoy nice relationship, but because post-Vietnam withdrawal, there was surge of US-backed and chink-based ex-Khmer rouge party members back into the government.

If “ex-Khmer rouge party members” went “back into the government”. That proves that your claim about the durability of the regime the viets installed is just a uselss face saving exercise.

And no, Cambodia does not see an example in Champa, hell, Pol Pot massacres cham people under his reign.

The viet did the same thing: “The case of the fallen Champa, by Suleiman Idres Bin”. There is something common about the viet and Pol Pot.

No, Vietnam militarization of the islets are a reaction against China’s illegal grab of Paracel and the nine-dash-claim. Vietnam has no dispute with other countries, and ASEAN as a whole is united against chink aggression this year.
https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/asean-stops-pulling-punches-over-south-china-sea/

The Xishas was and is Chinese territory.

http://chasfreeman.net/diplomacy-on-the-rocks-china-and-other-claimants-in-the-south-china-sea/

The south viets once tried to illegally grab them but was beaten off.

Take a long at the map I linked to earlier. The sea within the viet dash-line is almost as big as China’s. That means that on a per capita, or per unit land area, basis, the viet claim is many times bigger than China’s.

Funny how chinks cooperate with CIA for over 10 years to fuck over Vietnam and Cambodia, and now they cry foul when another country has diplomatic relation with their rival.

China also had “diplomatic dialogues” with Sihanouk and the Khmer Rouge when that helps in liberating Cambodian territory. What makes you think that only the viets can play this game?

Uncle Ho only wanted to liberate Vietnam,

Sihanouk wanted to liberate Cambodia.

“Mao and Deng shook hands with Nixon and Kissinger” because the USSR was putting huge military pressure on China– at one stage even consider nuclear strikes against China. Why should China ignore its own security just to please some ungrateful viets?

Lies. There’s active historical revisionism going around right now, and China refuses to apologize for supporting Pol Pot despite ADMITTING his wrongdoings.

China never apologized for the vietcong and North viet army massacres either– BECAUSE China supported their fight against the murrikan invaders but NOT their massacres of the viet people. The north viet army and the vietcongs had to take their own responsibility for these actions, which China could not control BUT Uncle Ho and his gang could!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_Hu%E1%BA%BF

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-hidden-atrocities-of-the-vietnam-war-1538664997

Again wrong, Pol Pot and Sihanouk were both used to bite Vietnam and prop up banditry, and in the end, they both failed. The government that rules Cambodia now is the government Vietnam establishes,..

“Pol Pot and Sihanouk” BOTH had their own reasons to bite the viets and they used Chinese support to their own ends– Just like Uncle Ho did against the murrikans. By saying that, you are only admitting Ho and his gang are “criminals” like Pol Pot and Sihanouk .

Now lemme deal with the old singy chink.

1) is Ninja Gaiden even REMOTELY as popular as franchises that I named like Super Mario or Sonic – or Legend of Zelda???? No – not even remotely.

Ninja Gaiden is one of the best franchises ever and widely recognized by people who play video games. If you search best games ever, you would find Ninja Gaiden. And Super Mario, Sonic, and Legend of Zelda are Japanese games, no matter how you think.

2) you are talking about 2016 – I’m talking about the 1980’s… You seem to miss that fact.. And for the record Sony moved it’s videogame division headquarters to the US now. Also I looked up “Dark Souls�. What on earth does that have to do with Japan and Japanese culture?????

2016 is the foundation for 1980, the 1980s is the ninja and samurai boom where you see even western movies making films about ninja and samurai, and who can forget Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?
And what on Earth does Dark Souls have to do with Japanese culture? Aside from Japanese characters, Japanese weapons, Japanese fighting styles, and Japanese themes on the cosmic and Buddhist cycle of life? What is with this boomer? He can only see the external?

3) China never wanted to popularize martial arts in the first place. You don’t get it that’s why Bruce Lee became who he became. He involved westerners in martial arts and is more famous than any Japanese star. My point is China didn’t seek to appease the west… The Japanese did after WW2.

What do you mean China doesn’t? Is Hong Kong not China now? HK martial arts movies basically launch Bruce Lee and interest in wuxia and Chinese history. The fact (mainland) China “didn’t seek to appease the west� is wrong, considering immediately when China gets rich, it funds copycats of HK films and TV shows.

4) false…. Western powers control western society and who is seen as good and who is seen as bad.

The fact you care about how much western culture/society cares about Asian media shows that your brain has been rotten. It doesn’t matter one bit on what is their perception of Asian media. Asian media continues to grow and has successfully captured their market and gain a following, despite their pushback.

Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon is the highest grossing foreign language film in US history… What are you talking about?

OK, legit mistake there, but Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon did good in the US, but not so well in Asia, while Spirited Away does well in both and ends up grossing more as a result.

Anime was NOT mainstream in western markets until the 2000’s when cartoon channels started to play it. Prior to the 2000’s it was very much a niche market… If it had a Japanese theme it was even MORE of a niche.

Anime earns a cult status and every cool kids know anime like Akira, GoTS, and the whole world loves Doraemon, Dragon Ball Z, Mazinger Z or Gundam. Do you live in the US as a kid or something? The fact anime becomes mainstream in the US and even topples western cartoons and comics show their strength and foundation since the 80s.

And finally – an analyst who breaks down the Japanese tailoring their games to meet the whims of the western market.

Even the analyst disagrees with you:

The decision to Americanize the TV show carries with it a number of ironies. First, despite the adaptation of the show described above, various aspects of the show including plot lines and relationships between characters can be easily read as Japanese. A column in the New York Times (Strom, 1999 November 7) argued that, in fact, Pokemon served to teach American children such traditional Japanese values as empathy and perseverance at all costs. Second, the Japanese origin of the program, for many children, is not a negative but in fact an important part of the show/phenomenon’s attractiveness. Japan is well-known by young video game players (particularly those tied into the internet) to be the source of most signficant video game innovations; anime is also gradually building an image as “cutting-edge” entertainment. The show, therefore, is used by some to gain knowledge of Japanese culture and access to the cutting edge.

Even when they changes the exterior of Pokemon to be more westernized, it still introduces Japanese culture and thus increasing its soft power in the West, and even making Japan “cool”.
As demonstrated, you have no understanding of culture or aesthetics. You see the exterior and not knowing the interior, are you secretly an old murican boomer who lives in Singy?

I’m gonna respond to this guy’s first, since he’s trying to form the narrative that Vietnam was guilty for “invading” Cambodia, never mind the crazy shit the CIA and chinkies did by supporting Pol Pot.

Never heard that Sihanouk “allowed� either nam or murrika to invade Cambodian territory.

He played both sides when he was head of state in the 60s, and yes , he “allowed” it.

In early 1964, Sihanouk signed a secret agreement with North Vietnam and the Viet Cong, allowing Chinese military aid meant for them to be delivered through Sihanoukville’s port. In turn, the Cambodian army would be paid for delivering food supplies to the Viet Cong, and at the same time skim off 10 percent of all military hardware supplies.[93] In addition, he also allowed the Viet Cong to build a trail through eastern Cambodia, so that their troops could receive war supplies from North Vietnam. The trail later became known as the Sihanouk Trail.[94] When the US learned of Viet Cong presence in eastern Cambodia, they started a bombing campaign,[95] spurring Sihanouk to sever diplomatic ties with the US in May 1965.[94] As a result of this secret agreement, Communist countries, including China, the Soviet Union, and Czechoslovakia, provided military aid to Cambodia.[96]

As relations with China worsened, Sihanouk pursued rapprochement with the US. He learned that Kennedy’s widow, Jacqueline Kennedy, had expressed a desire to see Angkor Wat.[111] Seeing this as an opportunity to restore relations with the US, Sihanouk invited her to visit Cambodia and personally hosted her visit in October 1967.[112] Jacqueline Kennedy’s visit paved the way for Sihanouk to meet with Chester Bowles, the US ambassador to India. To Bowles, Sihanouk expressed his willingness to restore bilateral relations with the US, hinted at the presence of Viet Cong troops in Cambodia, and suggested he would turn a blind eye should US forces enter Cambodia to attack Viet Cong troops retreating into Cambodia from South Vietnam—a practice known as “hot pursuit”—provided that Cambodians were unharmed.[113][114] Silhanouk told Bowles that he disliked the Vietnamese as a people, saying he had no love for any Vietnamese, red, blue, North or South”.[115]

Sihanouk was pretty much a puppet pushed around, first by the US, and then China. Much like Pol Pot, hell, he was used as a figure to rally for Pol Pot/Khmer Rouge after Khmer Rouge was ousted.

That also explains why Pol Pot hated both so much. What makes you think that the viets are the only people who is capable of hating their enemies?

If Pol Pot hated “both” so much, why does he become a CIA bandit and enjoys full western and chink support to kill and destabilize his own people?

If the puppet regime that the viet built were “stable�, it would still be there today for the whole world to see.

That “regime” is still existing today, with a name change and market liberalization, the ruling party is the Cambodian People Party i.e. Hun Sen’s party that was built by Viets post-Pol Pot.

North Korea is the example of a country “sanctioned by nearly the whole world�– apart from China and a few others– and it is stable and is still around. But that is NOT due to the effort of nam.

North Korea is Korea divided in half, and North Korea was supported not only by China, but also the rest of the Eastern bloc. Vietnam in Cambodia manages to keep the whole territory and establish a working government that still lasts today DESPITE being sanctioned by most of the world (with the sole exception of the Eastern bloc sans China).

The legitimate Cambodian government was/is the government of Sihanouk– Even YOU yourself admit it by making the “allowed by Sihanouk� claim.

No, Sihanouk lost every legitimacy when he supported Pol Pot/Khmer Rouge by China and US’s advice, he essentially becomes just another puppet like Puyi or Ming Mang, used by foreign powers to destabilize home country.

If nam is so nice to Cambodia and the relationship between them is so good, how is it possible for China to “divide and conquer� at all? Maybe, the Cambodians see an example in Champa?!!!

The same way the US does to any of its enemy, massive amount of propaganda. Cambodia and Vietnam states still enjoy nice relationship, but because post-Vietnam withdrawal, there was surge of US-backed and chink-based ex-Khmer rouge party members back into the government. And no, Cambodia does not see an example in Champa, hell, Pol Pot massacres cham people under his reign.

Tell the Champas about viets living in peace! The Cambodians are clearly not stupid enough to believe it. They are very serious about viet bullying in the region.

You can visit Vietnam right now and ask about cham people currently living here. Cambodian under Pol Pot is clearly stupid enough to be receive CIA money and chink guns just to kill his own people and invade Vietnam.

nam is the one who grabbed the most islets in SCS– and almost ALL of them are in OTHER PEOPLE’s economic zones. In order words, the viets ARE the invaders!!! So, stop the crap that the viets are the most peaceable people in the region.

No, Vietnam militarization of the islets are a reaction against China’s illegal grab of Paracel and the nine-dash-claim. Vietnam has no dispute with other countries, and ASEAN as a whole is united against chink aggression this year.
https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/asean-stops-pulling-punches-over-south-china-sea/

If you had followed news at all, you should know that amelika has already invaded you with their warships, all because the nam leaders “allowed� that to happen– something that even Sihanouk did not do with respect to Cambodia.

Invasion? We allow them in as a gesture of diplomatic dialogue, they do not occupy as and they leave as we tell them to, there’s no foreign base in Vietnam. Funny how chinks cooperate with CIA for over 10 years to fuck over Vietnam and Cambodia, and now they cry foul when another country has diplomatic relation with their rival.

Mao also joined hands with Uncle Ho. So, Uncle’s nam must be the “Great Satan� that hurt its smaller neighbours!

Uncle Ho only wanted to liberate Vietnam, Uncle Ho never invaded any of his neighbors, and Vietnam only invades Cambodia after it has massacred vietnamese in Vietnam’s territory. Meanwhile, Mao and Deng shakes hands with Nixon and Kissinger, those who bomb both Cambodia and Vietnam, and sustain the banditry that was Pol Pot for over 10 years and worse, invade Vietnam for no reason!

Japan tried to conquer China, when the latter was divided and weak, but failed. nam did the same in Cambodia. That is close resemblance in opportunism and empire building.

Vietnam invades Cambodia to stop the attacks by Pol Pot and also provide aids to the Cambodian people, meanwhile, chinks attack Vietnam because it dares going against Pol Pot’s banditry, and you talk about opportunism?

Yes, China did but there was no denial.

Lies. There’s active historical revisionism going around right now, and China refuses to apologize for supporting Pol Pot despite ADMITTING his wrongdoings.

In December 2000, while Jiang was visiting Cambodia, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China issued a statement that Beijing never supported the wrong policies of Khmer Rouge while it was governing Cambodia and refused to apologize.[166][167][168]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide#War_crimes_trials
After this, there is NO point ever in trusting chinks, they are lying through their teeth.

China and the Cambodian nationalists made a deliberate decision to USE the atrocious Pol Pot to oust the viet invaders so that their Kingdom could be restored afterwards. It turned out that it worked according to plan.

Again wrong, Pol Pot and Sihanouk were both used to bite Vietnam and prop up banditry, and in the end, they both failed. The government that rules Cambodia now is the government Vietnam establishes, with Hun Sen as the head. Sihanouk is a greedy puppet who himself abdicates in 2004 because he has no power nor support.

You can keep going, but the more you go, the more criminals you make Mao, Deng and modern China look in the Khmer Rouge period. You essentially were funding ISIS (Khmer Rouge) and Juan Gaido-equivalence (Pol Pot and Sihanouk) to strangehold countries (Cambodia and Vietnam).

Yes indeed… But what else can one expect from someone who represents the 5 Eyes. Nobody else should be able to set rules in their eyes. The economic balance is shifting back toward Asia. So why do they expect Asia not to have a say… China being the largest in China – it should be expected China would want more of a say.

“During the 80s when Japan was “the bad guyâ€� (only for the USA, the whole world loves Japan at the times, save for maybe China), plenty of shows (TV/movies series) of Japan still penetrate into worldwide market, such as Akira or Gundam or Macross or the Ghibli movies, it wasn’t total information blackout, in fact, 80s Japanese OVAs define the whole period along with 80s American action movies.

And no, Ghibli anime like Spirited Away, released during the same period, is actually more popular than Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon in the US.”

Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon is the highest grossing foreign language film in US history… What are you talking about? Spirited Away was nowhere close overseas. Being the highest grossing film in Japanese history didn’t mean it was overseas. Spirited Away did eventually better in China than any other market outside Japan. It was no big hit in the west. The fact it was in the tens of millions in other markets was seen as a big deal.. Here are the facts!

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr1694585349/?ref_=bo_tt_gr_1

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt0245429/

https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/VIEW-Worldwide-Asian-films-are-grossing-2733592.php

Anime was NOT mainstream in western markets until the 2000’s when cartoon channels started to play it. Prior to the 2000’s it was very much a niche market… If it had a Japanese theme it was even MORE of a niche. The second biggest market for anime is China – not anywhere in the west.

http://w3.salemstate.edu/~poehlkers/Emerson/Pokemon.html

And finally – an analyst who breaks down the Japanese tailoring their games to meet the whims of the western market. As it states clearly – role playing games developed by Japan initially had a European theme and that when Japanese things like Pokemon were to be exported they made them more westernized.

Thulean Friend ought to consider another metric when assessing China’s future potential as compared to the U.S. The U.S. public schools are teaching that learning math and having future time orientation are “racist”. Meanwhile, millions of Chinese students are learning advanced calculus. It doesn’t take much brains to realize that China’s GDP will be at least 3-4 times that of ours, if not 5-6 times greater., and apparently the majority of Americans voted for the presidential candidate of the party that wants to increase this insanity (if you believe the MSM, that is).

Trust me on this one. The future is China.

I am sorry, but anyone who espouses soft power over hard power would be really brain damaged.

The American military budget should slap you silly.

The Chinese around 1900 would probably kill you on sight for saying something so stupid.

The America today would not exist.

Saddam is crawling out of his grave to strangle you with the rope that hanged him.

Soft power comes naturally with hard power. With money. With status.

Telling the chinese to forsake hard power to pursue soft power is the same as telling them to commit suicide.

I can’t speak for other anons, so I won’t.

The fact that you think I am Chinese just proved every single one of my points in my comments in replies to you.

Are you even vietnamese? Do you know what is good for Vietnam? Do you understand what is bad for Vietnam?

I sincerely hope there are vietnamese smarter than you.

Correct… BYD is also bringing innovation to batteries. They are doing so in buses and passenger cars now.

Correct… Little in the west is known about Chinese seafaring innovation over the centuries. And since this is about GDP – they should not be shocked at how China has come to have the largest ship industry in the world now. They can say what they want about Xi – but he is absolutely clear that China needed to go back to the sea to not repeat the error of the Ming and the Qing in retreating and ignoring. China set about building a maritime militia and fishing fleet – the largest in the world before building up the navy. In the same way they are not doing it colonize others like the 5 Eyes claims.

1) is Ninja Gaiden even REMOTELY as popular as franchises that I named like Super Mario or Sonic – or Legend of Zelda???? No – not even remotely.

2) you are talking about 2016 – I’m talking about the 1980’s… You seem to miss that fact.. And for the record Sony moved it’s videogame division headquarters to the US now. Also I looked up “Dark Souls”. What on earth does that have to do with Japan and Japanese culture?????

3) China never wanted to popularize martial arts in the first place. You don’t get it that’s why Bruce Lee became who he became. He involved westerners in martial arts and is more famous than any Japanese star. My point is China didn’t seek to appease the west… The Japanese did after WW2.

4) false…. Western powers control western society and who is seen as good and who is seen as bad. Pew Research reflects that. Look at the plot to “Tomorrow Never Dies”. China yet wasn’t the bad guy so the plot to the film… But back when the Chinese were the bad guys previously such as in Dr. No or The Man with the Golden Gun – i’m sure Pew results would reflect. In the 70’s Japanese were portrayed in the west as docile and subservient… By the 80’s when Japan became the bad guy because of her economic rise – she was portrayed as ruthless again. If you can find Pew results they would reflect that in western societies.

So the HCM trail is invasion now? Funny because that was allowed by Sihanouk, who also allows the bombing of Vietnamese, fair is fair.

Never heard that Sihanouk “allowed” either nam or murrika to invade Cambodian territory. He had no choice because Cambodia was so much weaker than either. That also explains why Pol Pot hated both so much. What makes you think that the viets are the only people who is capable of hating their enemies?

Very funny indeed. nam was in Cambodia before the Khmer Rouge took power. They could claim revenge against nam– just like you are claim revenge for border raids, which came afterwards.

So the HCM trail is invasion now? Funny because that was allowed by Sihanouk, who also allows the bombing of Vietnamese, fair is fair. North Vietnam made no push against the government until the outsing of Sihanouk, which allowed Lon Nok to allow South Vietnam in, and the invasion only starts AFTER Pol Pot massacred vietnamese in Vietnam borders.

The viets (like you) had/have “turned into radical anti-Chinese nationalism� after China helping them winning the war against the Amerlikans. So, why should you be surprised that China wanted to “put a stop to it� in Cambodia???!!! You must be a believer of Nam Exceptionalism!!!

Where is the radical anti-Chinese nationalism? We see chinks attacking Vietnam territory, funding Pol Pot to raid and invade Vietnam and then raising hell in Cambodia, and now occupying Vietnam sea territories. And yes, it is surprising that chinks decide to team up with USA to fund a bandit like Pol Pot fighting against the legit Cambodian govt, established by Cambodian and Vietnam communists, and join hands with the western pigs and lackeys to sanction both Vietnam and Cambodia. That speaks the level of opportunism, that Mao and Deng are basically just opportunist pigs who join hands with the Great Satan to hurt their neighbors, no difference than the Empire of Japan.

But China turn against them later because nam became the invader and Khmer Rouge for its genocides against the Cambodians.

Absolutely false, China was fully aware of these atrocities, in fact, it and the USA are the two funders who kept the banditry/civil war in Cambodia as well as the clown seat in the UN for the next 10 years after his regime is ousted. China funds him in order to bite Vietnam, and only stops after Vietnam has withdrawn, but now China denies any involvement or knowledge LOL

That is about the same length of time the Amelikans stayed in nam. It is no coincidence!!!

Lol wut? French stayed in Vietnam for nearly a hundred year, Americans stay in Nam for over 20 years. Meanwhile, Viet pretty much built up the modern and stable Cambodian government in 10 years and get out due to massive crippling sanctions imposed by nearly the whole world (except Eastern Bloc comrades).

The Cambodian government now allies with China and keeps a weary eye on nam.

It allows China sponsorship and quietly opposes Vietnam on the South East Asia sea issue, but relationship has not deteriorated like Pol Pot era, nice try to divide and conquer.

“Think� what you want. USSR is no more and Russia, its successor, depends largely on China for it economic wellbeing. The whole of “Eastern block� is full of holes in itself. nam was, and is, useful to them, and Amelka, when they want nam to become their pawn against China. I am sure that nam will fall for it.

Ah, the evil imperalist now says his word, he has no trust in his neighbor, this explains his strategy in the South East Asia sea:
– intentionally keep sea lanes unclear to provoke neighbors
– cry foul when neighbors start to make dialogue with rival hegemony (despite the fact they themselves have partnered with rival hegemony before hands)
– prepare invasion plan for neighbor
Exactly like Pol Pot’s “pre-emptive” strike policy.
Meanwhile, Vietnam has stayed neutral in this US-China feud (we know the USA cannot be trusted, like chinks), and only pursuits legal attacks against China’s imperialism in the South East Asia sea. But do say bring it on, we viets live in peace and do not fear any of you bullies. The moment you invade us is the end of you and all of the “peace and prosperity” bullcrap image you built yourself on.

I modern days, Cambodia sees through the true nature of nam and finds an Asian Amelika in nam. If “the third most powerful military� came again, they would turnCambodia nam’s new “Vietnam� again!.

It is funny because anti-Vietnam sentiment is entirely founded by US-backed parties in Cambodia that massively sponsor propaganda campaigns against Vietnam, so much for “see through�, you are already “Asian amelika�. But if they invade us, we will help the cambodian people again, so that Cambodia is free of bandits funded by Asian American CIA chinkies. You are welcome.

Very funny indeed. nam was in Cambodia before the Khmer Rouge took power. They could claim revenge against nam– just like you are claim revenge for border raids, which came afterwards.

So the HCM trail is invasion now? Funny because that was allowed by Sihanouk, who also allows the bombing of Vietnamese, fair is fair. North Vietnam made no push against the government until the outsing of Sihanouk, which allowed Lon Nok to allow South Vietnam in, and the invasion only starts AFTER Pol Pot massacred vietnamese in Vietnam borders.

The viets (like you) had/have “turned into radical anti-Chinese nationalism� after China helping them winning the war against the Amerlikans. So, why should you be surprised that China wanted to “put a stop to it� in Cambodia???!!! You must be a believer of Nam Exceptionalism!!!

Where is the radical anti-Chinese nationalism? We see chinks attacking Vietnam territory, funding Pol Pot to raid and invade Vietnam and then raising hell in Cambodia, and now occupying Vietnam sea territories. And yes, it is surprising that chinks decide to team up with USA to fund a bandit like Pol Pot fighting against the legit Cambodian govt, established by Cambodian and Vietnam communists, and join hands with the western pigs and lackeys to sanction both Vietnam and Cambodia. That speaks of the level of opportunism, that Mao and Deng are basically just opportunist pigs who join hands with the Great Satan to hurt their neighbors, no difference than the Empire of Japan.

But China turn against them later because nam became the invader and Khmer Rouge for its genocides against the Cambodians.

Absolutely false, China was fully aware of these atrocities, in fact, it and the USA are the two funders who kept the banditry/civil war in Cambodia as well as the clown seat in the UN for the next 10 years after his regime is ousted. China funds him in order to bite Vietnam, and only stops after Vietnam has withdrawn, but now China denies any involvement or knowledge LOL

That is about the same length of time the Amelikans stayed in nam. It is no coincidence!!!

Lol wut? French stayed in Vietnam for nearly a hundred year, Americans stay in Nam for over 20 years. Meanwhile, Viet pretty much built up the modern and stable Cambodian government in 10 years and get out due to massive crippling sanctions imposed by nearly the whole world (except Eastern Bloc comrades).

The Cambodian government now allies with China and keeps a weary eye on nam.

It allows China sponsorship and quietly opposes Vietnam on the South East Asia sea issue, but relationship has not deteriorated like Pol Pot era, nice try to divide and conquer.

“Think� what you want. USSR is no more and Russia, its successor, depends largely on China for it economic wellbeing. The whole of “Eastern block� is full of holes in itself. nam was, and is, useful to them, and Amelka, when they want nam to become their pawn against China. I am sure that nam will fall for it.

Ah, the evil imperalist now says his word, he has no trust in his neighbor, this explains his strategy in the South East Asia sea:
– intentionally keep sea lanes unclear to provoke neighbors
– cry foul when neighbors start to make dialogue with rival hegemony (despite the fact they themselves have partnered with rival hegemony before hands)
– prepare invasion plan for neighbor
Exactly like Pol Pot’s “pre-emptive” strike policy.
Meanwhile, Vietnam has stayed neutral in this US-China feud (we know the USA cannot be trusted, like chinks), and only pursuits legal attacks against China’s imperialism in the South East Asia sea. But do say bring it on, we viets live in peace and do not fear any of you bullies. The moment you invade us is the end of you and all of the “peace and prosperity” bullcrap image you built yourself on.

I modern days, Cambodia sees through the true nature of nam and finds an Asian Amelika in nam. If “the third most powerful military� came again, they would turnCambodia nam’s new “Vietnam� again!.

It is funny because anti-Vietnam sentiment is entirely founded by US-backed parties in Cambodia that massively sponsor propaganda campaigns against Vietnam, so much for “see through�, you are already “Asian amelika�. But if they invade us, we will help the cambodian people again, so that Cambodia is free of bandits funded by Chinese American CIA. You are welcome.

That’s a funny to say, since Vietnam only intervenes AFTER the cross-border raids from Pol Pot and the massacre starts, if we have wanted Cambodia territory, we would have started way earlier.

Very funny indeed. nam was in Cambodia before the Khmer Rouge took power. They could claim revenge against nam– just like you are claim revenge for border raids, which came afterwards.

North Vietnam supported the Khmer Rouge at the beginning, since they were also communist revolutionaries, and some of them still are, such as Hun Sen, the current ruler of Cambodia, he was Khmer Rouge too.

China supported both nam and Cambodia “at the beginning”, when both were fighting against foreign invasions– nam against the Amelikan’s, and Cambodia(Khmer Rouge then) against nam’s invasions. But China turn against them later because nam became the invader and Khmer Rouge for its genocides against the Cambodians.

But Pol Pot faction turns into radical anti-vietnamese nationalism, and Vietnam comes to put a stop to it.

The viets (like you) had/have “turned into radical anti-Chinese nationalism” after China helping them winning the war against the Amerlikans. So, why should you be surprised that China wanted to “put a stop to it” in Cambodia???!!! You must be a believer of Nam Exceptionalism!!!

Vietnam still stays there 10 years,

That is about the same length of time the Amelikans stayed in nam. It is no coincidence!!!

Pol Pot, despite his funding by CIA, chinkies, thai, and all sort of people, still lose in the end.
That’s a happy ending for such a dark period, where truth and justice are hidden,

Pol Pot was a loser from the beginning. He was first used by nam and then used by the other side to screwing nam. He had served his purpose well.

and the good guys (Vietnam and the Cambodian government) were relentlessly attacked by:
– US, UK, Western bloc
– China
– ASEAN, led by the Singapore and Thailand

The Cambodian government now allies with China and keeps a weary eye on nam.

Nah, I don’t think so, the only people who enjoy screwing us are evil hegemonies (US and China) and their lackeys (Thailand, Singapore), and in the process of wanting to hurt Vietnam, they end up hurting Cambodia the most. Thorough this period, the USSR and the Eastern bloc still supports us, and we remain steadfast allies.

“Think” what you want. USSR is no more and Russia, its successor, depends largely on China for it economic wellbeing. The whole of “Eastern block” is full of holes in itself. nam was, and is, useful to them, and Amelka, when they want nam to become their pawn against China. I am sure that nam will fall for it.

In the modern day, Cambodia turns chink-friendly again, but if they indeed want to turn into Khmer Rouge 2.0, Vietnam welcomes their challenge and history will repeat.

I modern days, Cambodia sees through the true nature of nam and finds an Asian Amelika in nam. If “the third most powerful military” came again, they would turnCambodia nam’s new “Vietnam” again!.

This is what I was talking about.
This is why Brexit failed and you will get raped by the EU for real this time. The pakis and indians will make breeding pens from your “women”. Go to hell.

I knew what you meant but you did NOT know that you had unwittingly included nam TOO!!! Nam saw/sees Cambodia just as another Champa that they wanted to swallow– feathers and bones.

That’s a funny to say, since Vietnam only intervenes AFTER the cross-border raids from Pol Pot and the massacre starts, if we have wanted Cambodia territory, we would have started way earlier.

The viets were the real agent that made Pol Pot:

North Vietnam supported the Khmer Rouge at the beginning, since they were also communist revolutionaries, and some of them still are, such as Hun Sen, the current ruler of Cambodia, he was Khmer Rouge too.
But Pol Pot faction turns into radical anti-vietnamese nationalism, and Vietnam comes to put a stop to it.
What COMES after the ousting of Pol Pot regime is where the CIA and chinks support come in:

Zbigniew Brzezinski “himself claims that he concocted the idea of persuading Thailand to cooperate fully with China in its efforts to rebuild the Khmer Rouge.� Brzezinski said, “I encouraged the Chinese to support Pol Pot. I encouraged the Thai to help the D.K. [Khmer Rouge government-in-exile of Democratic Kampuchea]. The question was how to help the Cambodian people. Pol Pot was an abomination. We could never support him, but China could.� In fact, U.S. support went well beyond encouraging others to rebuild the Khmer Rouge.
In neighboring Thailand, the Khmer Rouge formed a large guerrilla army, while Cambodian politician Son Sann established an army that would be ultimately named the Khmer People’s National Liberation Front (KPNLF). Prince Norodom Sihanouk launched his private army, the Armée Nationale Sihanoukiste (ANS).
On the political front, in 1979 the United States and China wielded their influence and pushed through a vote in the UN General Assembly in favor of granting Cambodia’s UN seat to the ousted Khmer Rouge regime, and terminated a UN investigation into Khmer Rouge crimes. The following year, the United States again supported the Khmer Rouge in the UN as the “legitimate� representative of the Cambodian people. With U.S. backing, Cambodia would continue to be represented in the United Nations by a Khmer Rouge diplomat until 1993.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/10/16/who-supported-the-khmer-rouge/
Vietnam still stays there 10 years, to build up a Cambodian government, with a new army, and leaves after that is finished. Pol Pot, despite his funding by CIA, chinkies, thai, and all sort of people, still lose in the end.
That’s a happy ending for such a dark period, where truth and justice are hidden, and the good guys (Vietnam and the Cambodian government) were relentlessly attacked by:
– US, UK, Western bloc
– China
– ASEAN, led by the Singapore and Thailand

So you see, everyone enjoys screwing nam and the viets. That is because nam and the viets are so ungrateful to the big guys and so atrocious towards the smaller guys (e.g. Champa, Cambodia)!!!

Nah, I don’t think so, the only people who enjoy screwing us are evil hegemonies (US and China) and their lackeys (Thailand, Singapore), and in the process of wanting to hurt Vietnam, they end up hurting Cambodia the most. Thorough this period, the USSR and the Eastern bloc still supports us, and we remain steadfast allies.
In the modern day, Cambodia turns chink-friendly again, but if they indeed want to turn into Khmer Rouge 2.0, Vietnam welcomes their challenge and history will repeat.

@ HeebHunter

That’s quite a charge. Might I ask for evidences, officer?

@ Brian Damage

Yeah nah, there is only about 1 million Hoa people in Saigon/HCMC. Vietnam, even South Vietnam only, has more “business owners and professionals” than that.

To be fair, though, the US had Trump as President between 2017 and right now, so that might be a factor in the slowdown of high-IQ Asian immigration to the US. I wonder if under a President Biden we’ll once again see a huge increase in the Chinese-American immigrant population just like we did under President Obama; after all, both Obama and Biden are *relatively* pro-immigration.

Also, even from low-IQ Asian countries such as India, the US still sometimes gets high-IQ immigrants or at least descendants of immigrants; for instance, from India. This could yet continue for quite a while, especially if the US will continue to have pro-immigration Presidents in office. Of course, if the US will ever REALLY open its borders to immigrants from places such as India, then I suspect that the Indian-American population might on average eventually end up looking much more like the British Indian population; so, for instance, an average IQ in the mid- or high-90s (AFAIK, British-born British Indians have an average IQ of 96-97) as opposed to having an average IQ of ~110.

Neither the East India Company nor the British government was involved in the opium trade to China. The EIC grew very high quality opium in Bengal for sale to the British market. Britain had a laudnam problem of it’s own. The opium in China was sold by Bengali merchants (it was called the country trade) as it had been for at least 1000 years – since about 800 AD. It was lower quality or occasionally EIC excess stock.

The Chinese burnt the opium against British objections to be sure but that was part of the bigger picture of rebellion in China against the Qing. Bengali opium was naturally stored in one of the British warehouses. The first opium war was not about opium. It was about the rights of the Bengali traders (British subjects) to enjoy free trade and by extension other foreign traders. The significance of the opium is a leftist reconstruction to fit a tale of helpless Chinese without agency of their own. The silver shortage is another myth. The US and the Spanish Empire were producing plenty. The rent for Penang, for example, was agreed in Spanish silver dollars. Individual Bengali merchants were short of silver but that was not the reason for selling opium.

I have not been to Northern Vietnam/Hanoi or Mid-Vietnam/DaNang so I can only speak about South Vietnam. Seems like most of the people that own business or professionals are Hans or mestizo Hans. Ho Chi Minh’s boom is related to this.

Awww, I meant “they�, not just the americans, but you too, chink friends, why didn’t you stay and celebrate with us when we depose Pot Pot and liberate the Cambodian people? I guess we were just too “ungrateful�.

I knew what you meant but you did NOT know that you had unwittingly included nam TOO!!! Nam saw/sees Cambodia just as another Champa that they wanted to swallow– feathers and bones.

And I’m a native Vietnamese born and raised, I have a neutral view towards both the US and China, who are our biggest enemies in history, and especially when they join hands to fuck Vietnam in the past, particularly during the Pol Pot episode (Pol Pot was funded by the CIA and given weapons by chinkies).

Dear “smith”, we actually have records of commenting history here.
I suggest you drop your job as a mutt propagandist before it is too late.

I wanted to give a proper reply but seeing that the anglo will never repent for anything…
Opium War.
“B-b-but those goddamn chinks refused to trade in anything but our funny money”
“Muh tea, muh porclain”

Fucking island monkeys.

Awww, I meant “they”, not just the americans, but you too, chink friends, why didn’t you stay and celebrate with us when we depose Pot Pot and liberate the Cambodian people? I guess we were just too “ungratefulâ€�.

Oh wait, didn’t your govt say it didn’t support the regime’s wrongdoings?

In December 2000, while Jiang was visiting Cambodia, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China issued a statement that Beijing never supported the wrong policies of Khmer Rouge while it was governing Cambodia and refused to apologize.[166][167][168] Yang Yanyi (�燕怡), then the Deputy Director of the Asian Department in the Foreign Ministry of China, claimed that:[166]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide#War_crimes_trials

This is an internal affair to be addressed by the Cambodians themselves. China had never interfered in the internal affairs of another country. Our assistance and support during that certain historical period was to support Cambodia’s effort to safeguard its sovereignty and national independence. We never support wrong policies of other countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide#War_crimes_trials

So it seems one of you lied then.

On a more serious note, Vietnam back in 1975, just fresh off the war with the americans, then marching into Kampuchea to remove Pol Pot, while fending off chink attack on the North AND under America’s sanctions. The fact weviets did it all back then was fucking marvelous, like outta a movie.

Too bad there are no big screen depictions of these campaigns, Vietnam still has to develop more.

And I’m a native Vietnamese born and raised, I have a neutral view towards both the US and China, who are our biggest enemies in history, and especially when they join hands to fuck Vietnam in the past, particularly during the Pol Pot episode (Pol Pot was funded by the CIA and given weapons by chinkies).

@ HeebHunter

Sad to see you say that, oh well, anyone is anti-chink nowadays is considered to be mutt friend, and vice versa. Such 2D thinking, you have to bow before a foreign power in order to fight another one. Uncle Ho taught viets that “we cannot invite the leopard to fight the tiger” like in 40s politics where Phan Boi Chau thought calling the japs over would free us of the french (while the japs would just rule us instead). Very similar thinking is being placed here in the 20s, where the “nationalist” chinks are gonna liberate the whole world for everyone, while we non-actors just sing and clap.

And no, I don’t forget the Hoa people. The Hoa people are basically like the jews here, they blend in and become rich merchant, capitalizing all the assets, and of course vote for pro-chink policies including selling land to China, that’s why there are purges of Hoa people in Vietnam before they dominate Vietnam’s politics and economy. But it’s weird to see you suddenly defend the jews equivalence in Asia, I guess Hitler was wrong then when trying to make an ethnostate and excluding the jews from owning business LOL.

Vietnam will just keep walking its own path to defend its national interests, along with ASEAN. Kowtowing to hegemony isn’t on Vietnam’s traditions.

Nah, it will never happen. Han nationalism is different. Right now, Han nationalism is more of a threat to the CCP than the world.

Britain did not set out to colonize anywhere in Asia. The East India Company was there to trade not conquer. Pay tribute or be conquered was the Chinese threat. A land lord extracting rent. The Chinese court originally assumed the British were there to pay tribute too.

Most places, most of the time the British ended up defending their trading posts and trading partners from the greed of a nearby neighbour.

Who wanna bet the next great Führer will be in China?

He is likely one of those boat people remnants who were rightfully chased out of Vietnam after the war for being colaborators for the colonial powers.
For all the hate against those damn chinks, he forgot the Southern provinces of Vietnam below the equator line has always been full of Chinese migrants called the Hoa people.

Hell, one of the pop singer back in 2000s Vietnam had Chinese family name and the trademark slant eye, and they all loved her.

I suspect “Smith” is one of those misguided soul, content to see another proxy war waged on his ancestral soil, just so he can have second class treatment by his fellow amerimutts who will always see him as a chink, evident during the Covid-19 racial attacks.

This kind of “nationalist” was/is a product of dysgenic colonial training.
They are everywhere. Nowadays only North Korea, China, Iran and to some degree, god forbids, russia, can be considered true nationalists. The rests are just peasants, occupied cucks and useful idiots.

Yes, they left– thanks to China’s promise to intervene. Many viets left with them and and became their colonial subjects. You are probably among them.

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-many-overseas-Vietnamese-people-ungrateful-of-Ho-Chi-Minhs-effort-of-re-uniting-their-country-and-prefer-to-have-been-a-colony-of-America

So, you see, viets are ungrateful even to other viets!!!.

Empires have no friends indeed– Just ask the Khmer Rouge who made Cambodia vietnam’s OWN “Vietnam”!!! ;-D, ;-D, ;-D Again, China was the main supporter in the fight against viet empire building. Again, that fight was successful!

Haha, I guess they felt so ungrateful they left Vietnam post haste. Bye bye.

Ho Chi Minh was right, national security matter should never be left to foreigner, whether be chinks, japs or americans. Empires have no friends.

The Chinese have every reason to feeling hurt by those people who are famous for being ungrateful:

Chinese Support for North Vietnam during the Vietnam War: The Decisive Edge
by Bob Seals

‘“Thus the highest realization of warfare is to attack the enemy plans;â€� according to the learned military theorist Sun-Tzu in the Art of War. [69] In respects this is exactly what the North Vietnamese, and Chinese did in both Vietnam Wars: they successfully attacked the Western powers war plans. The considerable support for the DRV by the PRC, to include a promise to intervene with massive numbers of troops in the event of an invasion of North Vietnam, effectively eliminated this course of action, and perhaps others, as potential war winning options for the West. Thus, with the support of China, on a strategic level of war the DRV was able to remain upon the offensive throughout the war, maintaining the initiative and finally achieving victory as Saigon fell in April of 1975.’

http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/20thcentury/articles/chinesesupport.aspx

Not just the Chinese who think the viets are ungrateful. I remember having read decades ago that the GI’s thought so too. Maybe, this is a reference to it:

‘This is a war of the unwilling led by the unqualified, dying for the ungrateful‘

https://books.google.com.hk/books?id=_10wDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT173&lpg=PT173&dq=GI%27s+said+vietnamese+are+ungrateful&source=bl&ots=w3ybYsv5r1&sig=ACfU3U3tbL7J16ghQqLhHLxxVS42zQxO4w&hl=zh-TW&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjUkZXrn6LtAhXDyYsBHa9nB-oQ6AEwEHoECAkQAg#v=onepage&q=GI’s%20said%20vietnamese%20are%20ungrateful&f=false

& @ Astuteobservor II

This must be famous “hurt feelings of the chinese people”.

I’m sorry, my chink friends, for your hurt feelings, but talking and discussion of China history in a topic about China isn’t off-topic.

@ d dan

One question: is there any proof that Zheng He could “easily” set up colonies in these nations if he “tried” to?

That’s a funny thing to assume, because the Ming indeed put troops in Vietnam and were beaten back by Le Loi’s army who were tribesmen at the times. And Vietnam shares a land border with Ming China.

The chinks love to play up Zheng He’s fleets, but their actual military accomplishment in foreign land shows a different reality.

I fear that after American exceptionalism, Chinese exceptionalism will be the next thing, where the talking point would be WE CHAYNESE COULDA CONQUA DA WHOLE WORLD WE JUST CHOSE NOT TO, and history repeats itself.

These Khmer nationalists hate Vietnam and everyone else like the @smith hates China. The Khmer Rouge was a casualty of a proxy war between China and Russia’s client Vietnam which resulted in many deaths so there is nothing to celebrate about.

These nationalists were loud and everywhere during the 80s and 90s but as Prime Minister for life
Hun Sen solidifies his power, things got quiet.

The main problem but also a blessing is China’s leadership. It is shaped by a bunch of stiff engineers who looked for solutions in inorganic ways. Effective but cold.

It is a blessing because bypassing redtapes and consensus, these engineers were able to tackle complex problems facing China immediately. The enormous growth of the past few decades can be attributed to this.

It is a problem because as China’s economy matures, it naturally will compete with higher value added economies like the US and that’s when soft power, a great multiplier comes into play. Having these engineers and their engineer subordinates to coordinate some kind of a soft power offensive is like having a math nerd with zero social skills trying tell others how to get girls.

I feel China has reached a point where it has to recruit artists into its leadership. By artist, I meant people who are creative visionaries.

As a country progress, it must be organic, cohesive and strategic. Sort of like Japan but in a Chinese way.

They are very similar to the Khmer nationalists of Cambodia.

Whom are these Khmer nationalists against? I hope it isn’t the hated Chinese again!!! China supports the Kingdom of Cambodia AND the Khmer Rouge in their fights against outsiders and for their their independence.