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PIA : You can walk around and see if that is true again. It is a lie.
Jane Dutton: Why then do people come under the orders âshoot to killâ, if they want to leave this country?
PIA : No, no, not at all. If you are telling thousands are leaving this country then how do you think that can happen? If you are telling me that hundreds of thousands have left this country and asked for asylum
how can you imagine that happened?
Jane Dutton: Who do you consider your friends?
PIA : Where do you mean?
Jane Dutton: In the worldâ¦
PIA : A few, a bunch of liars may not be my friends but the whole world is behind Eritrea. Everybody is asking why all these lies? Why all these sanctions? Why this and that? It is an expression of the support of people. The minimum you can imagine sensible people asking simple questions about all the fabrications they hear everyday. That is by way of questioning the credibility of those telling the lies.
This means, it is a support for the one which is being victimized without any evidence. That is very important to remember. And those people who are asking the simple questions are behind Eritrea.
Jane Dutton: Can you just tell us a little about your aspirations?
PIA : We donât need war. We have fought for so many decades and we know what it means to go into war. It is very senseless to imagine that you can waste your time and resources doing things that do not deserve any
penny.
We are focused on doing âthe right things in this country. And we donât need to do it by forcing people to believe this or that. People are seriously engaged in what they are doing to change their quality
of life.
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We are better off.
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PIA : You can walk around and see if that is true again. It is a lie.
Jane Dutton: Why then do people come under the orders âshoot to killâ, if they want to leave this country?
PIA : No, no, not at all. If you are telling thousands are leaving this country then how do you think that can happen? If you are telling me that hundreds of thousands have left this country and asked for asylum
how can you imagine that happened?
Jane Dutton: Who do you consider your friends?
PIA : Where do you mean?
Jane Dutton: In the worldâ¦
PIA : A few, a bunch of liars may not be my friends but the whole world is behind Eritrea. Everybody is asking why all these lies? Why all these sanctions? Why this and that? It is an expression of the support of people. The minimum you can imagine sensible people asking simple questions about all the fabrications they hear everyday. That is by way of questioning the credibility of those telling the lies.
This means, it is a support for the one which is being victimized without any evidence. That is very important to remember. And those people who are asking the simple questions are behind Eritrea.
Jane Dutton: Can you just tell us a little about your aspirations?
PIA : We donât need war. We have fought for so many decades and we know what it means to go into war. It is very senseless to imagine that you can waste your time and resources doing things that do not deserve any
penny.
We are focused on doing âthe right things in this country. And we donât need to do it by forcing people to believe this or that. People are seriously engaged in what they are doing to change their quality
of life.
Those who have never tried it may fantasize about going to war. We have been there for so many decades, almost two generations. At least we will not be like Kenya, Nigeria, Ethiopia, Somalia, Sudan.
We are better off.
âWe are number one in this continent.â
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