I would have been okay with Trump pardoning Hunter as a gesture of reconciliation.

Of course, you would. You only play hardball when it’s Covid Lockdowns. Beyond that, you are very forgiving of those who promote the genocide of our people.

I mean, no skin off your nose.

Sailer has the character of a negligent parent toward his own people. “Oh what, you abused my son and daughter … aw shucks … forget about it, let’s just shake hands talks baseball stats”.

Completely immoral and 100% predictable.

I know federal crimes fall under Biden’s jurisdiction, but what about state crimes?

Going forward, Trump needs to stick a pile of forensic accountants up Joe’s and his other son’s ass regarding their China dealings. Joe will claim Alzheimer’s and put on a show, but let’s get him and his other son going in the grinder anyway, to ensure Joe and his degenerate family suffer eternal humiliation that will shine as a beacon of warning to other committed sociopaths, pointless people, and their horrid, ridiculous spawn.

I think it’s fine. No father is going to throw his son to the wolves just to try to score political points with his own party, especially when that very same party arm-twisted him out of running for reëlection. Anyone who says otherwise is engaging in motivated reasoning.

I would have been okay with Trump pardoning Hunter as a gesture of reconciliation.

Weak. Perfect encapsulation of the ‘beautiful loser’ meme.

Scratch the back of those who stab you in the back.

No wonder the Right lost. Too many weak men.

And the amnesia. After 2016, Trump went easy on the Deep State. Even hired a bunch of them.
What happened to him?

So, let’s rinse and repeat it all over again.

This is National Review level of weakness.

It’s perfectly in keeping with everything else that’s happened during this scumbag’s tenure in the White House. Most administrations are characterized by a total indifference to the will of the people — that goes without saying — but Biden’s presidency has been distinguished by its calculated antagonism. Literally every move he’s made during the past four years was designed to piss off the public, and this is a final, sneering “fuck you” to the American people from the most egregiously awful president in our history.

I would have been okay with Trump pardoning Hunter as a gesture of reconciliation.

I would have been okay with Hunter being locked up for years unless he agreed to testify against his corrupt father and uncle about their influence peddling racket.

These people don’t deserve “reconciliation”.

You sexually molested us, you convinced us to not have kids, you locked us out of home ownership, you destroyed the economy, you tried to start a nuclear war, if the rest of history was us torturing you to death, nobody would ask why. That is why Joe is smiling. Joe is smiling because he knows that there is no God and no justice.

I never really followed the allegations that closely, but wasn’t President Biden himself implicated in some sort of corruption in the cases in question? If so, isn’t he in effect pardoning himself?

I think Trump should pardon the Jan. 6 protestors and then, if any Democrats complain about it, point to Biden pardoning his son.

The real test is going to come when Biden does or does not commute the sentences of the 40 people on federal death row. Biden oversaw the massive expansion of the federal death penalty while he was in the Senate. He claims to be a catholic but the church’s opposition to the death penalty doesn’t mean much to him.

And more importantly, who else will he pardon? His son Hunter is America’s most famous crack addict yet never suffered the demonization, policing and imprisonment his father has advocated for poor drug addicts who are not members of his family. With over 100,000 federal prisoners there are many worthy candidates for pardons. Lets start with Leonard Peltier and Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning, John Kiriakou and many others deserving of mercy who have actually been politically persecuted.

The biggest stereotype buster is the trope that all crack smokers are Black. Hunter and his lover, his former sister in law no less, are exhibit A that rich white people smoke crack too. They just don’t go to prison for it like poor people of all colors do.

The pardon itself is part of an ongoing criminal conspiracy and father, son and others should be prosecuted.

Gesturing is all that these pillow fighting politicians do day in, day out. Mr. Sailer is too comfortable in his HBD armchair to notice that.

How many times since 2017 has he called for Biden to pardon the J6 sheep who took it seriously? Or for that matter Trump, who had weeks to do so?

I’ll just be so glad to not have to see this fetid festering Oompa Loompa shit stain at the press podium anymore.

The last four years was a tragic circus.

So long to Retarded Shirley Temple Black!

THE ANSWER IS NO. JOE BIDEN WILL NOT PARDON HUNTER.pic.twitter.com/rmnw2xouOV

— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) December 2, 2024

Oh, and fuck you, CNN!

FAMOUS LAST WORDS FOR JOHN HARWOOD. pic.twitter.com/cMD6CkNf3N

— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) December 2, 2024

On the bright side at least Joe Biden is no longer a political prosecution denier. It also seems that Trump can now pardon the January-6ers, Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, Paul Manafort, etcetera, without taking much of a political hit. I’m hoping the four George Floyd police officers get their federal convictions erased through a pardon, but I’m not expecting that to happen. I’m not sure if any of them are still living but the Rodney King police officers should also be pardoned. This would send a clear message.

On the other side of the coin the federal death warrant for Boston man Dzhokhar Tsarnaev should be carried out immediately. The bombings occurred over ten years ago, kill him.

Just about to say same thing. If it’s okay to pardon Hunter, then do a blanket pardon of ALL the Jan 6 protestors, period, and also have the US Government give each of them say, about 1 million dollars (tax free) for their time spent in jail.

AND…make a Federal memorial to Ashlii Babbit. Gone but not forgotten, murdered for a cause she believed in (freedom for US voters who voted for Trump).

I don’t know if a President can pardon his own son to obfuscate his and his crime family’s prosecution, since 2014?!

I don’t think that’s what our founders intended.

Also, what did Obama know about all this Ukraine payoff shit going on under his nose when Biden was Vice President?

The U.S. Supreme Court needs to weigh in on this most bizarre of pardons, and a criminal investigation must be held by our new FBI on the Obama administration. He and some of his people need prison time.

Stupid son of a bitch could have gotten us all killed!

Do you know why Biden picked 2014 as the first year of Hunter's pardon?

That's when he was appointed director of Ukraine's Burisma, starting a sequence of events that almost ended in World War 3. And so we go full circle. pic.twitter.com/6CchwEjxtz

— zerohedge (@zerohedge) December 2, 2024

“How many times since 2017 2021 ..�

Sorry, second time lately I’ve confused these MIEE’s.

Sorry about the O/T post here, but I saw this great homage to VDare by one Peter Bradley on this site, and Ron Unz keeps wiping out my one comment. It should work here:

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Though I’d sworn off commenting here end-o-last-bidness-year due simply to time constraints, I just noticed Mr. Bradley’s great homage to VDare here. Let me chime in to add my part.

I’d been a reader since about 5 or 6 years after VDare started up, as my stalwart-Conservative Dad got me hip to the seriousness of the immigration invasion problem. I would guess I’ve read 95% of the VDare articles since then, the non-read ones just due to my having missed them. I have met most of the people described herein, and they are all good people.

Mr. Brimelow himself, well, he could have stayed on the ins with the finance analyst and punditry crowd and had a cushy well-remunerated living. Instead he chose to proclaim the TRUTH about the coming (at that time) cultural and even financial destruction of America. That was simply the RIGHT thing to do.

Immigration* is THE EXISTENTIAL ISSUE. If the now severe damage is not somehow partially reversed, I won’t really care so much about the other problems in America anymore, because it’ll no longer be the America I cared about. (I’m thinking Uruguay or Portugal…)

I have followed VDare’s legal troubles to the “t”, at least the last legal “t” I could understand. I have to say this again, that I think Mr. Brimelow is just so used to the high-trust rule-of-law America of most of his life, that he could not see fit to fight the NY A/G in a way the ctrl-left would: Stall, obfuscate, “lose” entire servers (in unfortunate boating accidents… in West Virginia? Somehow…), etc.

I doubt the incoming A/G has the fire in the belly like a Matt Gaetz does, but I hope Trump will find a way to go after Leticia James. The ctrl-left can say it’s political payback, who cares, but the Constitution in fact REQUIRES that treasonous Communists like Merrick Garland, Alex Mayorkas, and highly-corrupt anti-White goons like Leticia James be prosecuted, tried, and punished. Trump, being still Trump, cares about himself foremost and the Banana Republican lawfare that was waged against him. However, VDare (as seen here in the Tucker/Lydia interview) was also targeted. James’ removal would be a greatly welcomed development for the remains of the VDare people and their former readers.

Instead of at least all the (~60,000 articles/posts in archives) be spread around, how about a full revival of VDare, same format, and URL in this case? I have been hopeful about that. I see no reason they can’t just get back running if the lawfare is ended.

It’s just a bad time for me to have lost VDare. Though the writers have always been hopeful, now with Trump in office again and duly pissed and Steve Miller and Tom Homan raring to go, this would be long-due time of high excitement. I should be looking forward to lots of great posts on details of the political fight right now. I want my VDare back!!

2 minor points:

1) Maybe writer Peter Bradley didn’t know ahead that his article would appear here, but why was there no mention of VDare writers being published on The Unz Review? The immigration issue is not one I agree on much with Mr. Ron Unz – he’s under the impression it’s all good because Hispanics have pushed Black! crime out of Palo Alto, where he lives – but Mr. Unz has been extremely hospitable by publishing Mr. Sailer’s blog, John Derbyshire’s stuff, and many of the other VDare writers (on occasion) over the years. It’s also a place to add comments on an extremely well-working site, while VDare didn’t have them.

2) Not to be a Grammar Commie or anything, but “fat ass” is two words.

That’s just what I wanted to write (but better phrased).

Since I’m here, the move was completely Banana Republican. Note also that Bai Dien lied about this multiple times as seen in video clips.

I agree with Mr. Anon. Reconciliation with the ctrl-left is the same as giving in. This ain’t 1924. Playing nice with the left is losing. They don’t do compromise. Rather than reconciliation, we need required retribution – required prosecution and punishment of all traitors and all abusers of power by the US Constitution.

Also, as per Mark G., if Trump doesn’t pardon the J6 Political Prisoners 1st week, I will no longer be sure he’s really on our side.

Connect the dots:

• Trump could have pardoned the non-violent J6 protestors, along with Assange and other dissidents, before leaving office.

• Biden had years to show the people of this country a “gesture of reconciliation,� and could have done so on the same day he signed Hunter’s pardon composed by his handlers.

Practically none of these Washington people could care any less about you or yours. They need us to keep voting at each other. Please stop.

Well rested, but still clueless.

Also, as per Mark G., if Trump doesn’t pardon the J6 Political Prisoners 1st week, I will no longer be sure he’s really on our side.

None of them is.

That’s America.

When you’re young you grow up idealising these older people as the epitome of the shining light, the ideal that Plato described as the basic yearning etched into every White man’s soul, except as you get older you realise just how corrupt, venal and treasonous the very people you placed so much trust in turned out to be.

Pretty soon you expect the worst; close in ranks and start thinking in dire Darwinian-Malthusian terms.

A lot of the internet essay mediocritat will spend years essaying as to what era of Roman history this latest American debacle equates yet the one, driving, right cross to my mind is that we have to coalesce into tighter, smaller hoplite groups to withstand the oncoming domination of every form of human exchange whether kissing, paying cash for a pack of cigarettes or just a basic meeting of minds at 3am in the local pizza place waiting for a kebab with the lot (hold the onions).

Biden is pardoning his son for enriching their entire family in Ukraine?

I bet he’s got nothing on Trump when he hands over to the next tall, white streak of dry dogshit goy that’s been implanted as our king to placate our displacement.

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The pardon is likely to get thrown out–old Joe mumbled something unintelligible to his son, who replied, “I beg your pardon…”

Of all Biden’s crimes, the pardon of his son is probably the least the of them.

But Sailer’s desire to grovel before the Establishment and give up any leverage in the process is the reason white people had every country taken from them.

People imagine that the heart of the problem is some Deep Dark Conspiracy. No, it’s the fact that we have been saddled with people like Sailer who we mistakenly allowed to represent us. Just as a John McCain is far more dangerous than a liberal, a Sailer is much worse than a Tim Wise.

Robert Wright (evolutionary theorist and Buddhist prima donna) is another example. He’s as anti-white as can be, but because he doesn’t snarl, most people think he’s harmless. We’ve been saddled with these creeps for generations. As white people around the world become more embattled, indulging this crowd becomes less tolerable to the white masses worldwide.

It is totally corrupt, especially because of the Ukraine corruption. Trump could still play some cards in that respect, as he will be the author of the Russia/ Ukraine peace agreement. He could have prosecution of the Bidens by Ukraine be an unreported condition of the agreement. He won’t, though. Trump is very strong when it comes to resilient defense, but very weak playing any kind of offense.

Trump never would have had Hunter prosecuted in the U.S. anyway. He flinched when it came to Hillary’s corruption the first time. So the pardon was actually unnecessary. Its only use now is that of an admission of guilt.

As the French philosopher Pascal said, and the American philosopher Woody Allen agreed, the heart has its reasons. Of course it could be argued that the heart’s reasons here have very little to do with the “my son!� factor, and even the gun case. Rather, a lot to do with being operative all the way back to 2014, and thus protecting the Biden crime cartel from Kash Patel.

The obvious thing would be for Trump to use this as a platform from which to launch a blanket pardon for all the J6 people, every single one. But he won’t, because he is an idiot with a show-biz conception of politics and no real understanding of anything.

Other ways he could reply to Biden’s move:

— challenge Biden to now pardon the J6ers *himself*, and if he won’t, make him explain to America in ugly detail why not. Then have experienced, skilled political forensics people dissect the explanation, again in as ugly a light possible.

— Use the occasion to announce publicly a list of all those Dems who will definitely NOT be pardoned after their convictions by the Trump DOJ. (((Biden))) and the (((Dems))) have made it clear they prioritize the personal over principle, at the very highest levels. So let it be written. So let it be done.

Steve is not into heavy. He is into humorous observations – akin to Jerry Seinfeld humor. So he does notice most of what the Power Brokers of Anglo-Zionist Empire work hard to keep anybody from acknowledging having noticed. But that seems to be his limit. So Steve is mildly amusing all the time while being right about a whole bunch of little things. Steve sees a whole bunch of trees while missing the forest.

Then again, when 90% or more of those who can recognize the Jewish Problem refuse to see that the Jewish Problem is inextricably tied to WASP empire, then Steve’s weaknesses aint shit. Can’t see the forest for the trees is bad, but can’t see half the forest because you are obsessed only with the other half is worse.

Steve: “Trump pardoning Hunter as a gesture of reconciliation.”

So in other words, your politics is a meaningless nothing. How can there be any sort of reconciliation, any sort of peace or generosity with these monsters, after all they’ve done? They show no remorse, no second thoughts, and the minute Vance loses in 28, they’ll do it all again, only 9x harder. And they won’t stop plaguing and badgering and reversing Trump for a single second throughout this, his pointless essentially place-holder second term. How can you even think of reconciling with these demons?

As to Biden’s action, it is the perfect final bit of crypsis, focusing America’s anger on the hapless feckless old twit as the real villains slither away out the back door. It’s the final “F#ck you, goyim” sneered at America by Biden’s controlling Jews as they exit stage Left, having done everything in their power to maim America irreversibly, while holding the door for Team Adelson to come in and take over their desks.

British secret service has been all over America since the Reconstruction are. Without their tireless work, the USA never would have made war to destroy the tottering Spanish Empire, which was a key set up for the Brits to design WW1 to stop the German menace to its global economic stronghold.

Peter Brimelow and John Derbyshire both smell too much like assets of Brit secret service.

You could see this coming a mile away in a snowstorm. No surprise. Adds to Plugs’ legacy as one of the worst presidents ever.

He is not on our side. Granted, his first term was far superior to Biden’s. But that doesn’t mean he is on our side.

Things Trump *didn’t do the first time:

Close the border
Build a wall
Get tough on crime
Build infrastructure
Fix trade imbalance
Bring back manufacturing
End anti-white racism from government programs

Things Trump did do the first time:

Recognize Jerusalem
Recognize the Golan Heights
Bomb Syria
Release black criminals
Pander to blacks
Allow cities to burn in 2020
Allow Blackrock to control the Federal Reserve

Things Trump promises to do this time:

Deport Mexicans
Import Indians
Cut government programs
Cut taxes

Even if he had the competence to enact his new stated agenda, which he failed to do the first time, it just sounds like some warmed-over Reaganist horseshit. Gee, I wonder how the debt has reached the unpayable 30 trillion dollars? Could it be from cutting taxes? And now that a serious rival is arising from BRICS, Trump is outright threatening economic warfare on those countries. That’s how FDR got us into WWII. So much for the peace president.

Just because the Democrats are so heinous, doesn’t make the Republicans into good guys. Slightly less evil is still evil.

Biden should have pardoned the January 6 protestors as a ‘gesture of reconciliation.� They’ve actually been rotting in jail.

Corrupt but understandable. It’s his kid after all.

Biden talks loudly about 2 minor charges that Hunter has been charged with. Sure they are insignificant. Then he pardons him for a 10 year period of all crimes.

We all know that includes serious corruption charges involving Joe Biden. Only no one dare say it.
It isn’t Hunter he is pardoning, it is the FBI investigation he is cancelling.

Hey…at least he waited until after the election! 😉

Plus ca change plus c’est la meme chose

We peons still just want to keep our heads down and not be raped (physically or financially) by the roi du jour whether it be Giau Bai Den, Louis XIV, or the latest Ottoman Sultan.

Those in power will do what they want and only occasionally get a dramatic comeuppance such as decapitation. The rest of us should pull back, shelter our resources and enjoy our lives.

How’s this for a legal theory: Everything that the shitbag Jew run administration has done since the stolen election is illegitimate for being ” fruit of the poisonous tree* and they all get their necks stretched for committing treason.

Off topic – I’ve seen this quote attributed to Woodrow Wilson for years. It seems hard to believe it’s genuine. But if it is, it’s got to be one of the strangest things ever committed to print by a serious man of ability in a position to understand something of how power in the US worked over a century ago. If he wasn’t alluding to the Jews, what coherent alternative does this construction allow for?

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.â€�

– Woodrow Wilson, The New Freedom, 1913

There was a crooked man, and he had a crooked smile
He had a crooked daddy and they walked a crooked mile

He smoked some crooked crack, and he bought a crooked gun
Now crooked senile daddy prez has pardoned crooked son

The pardon was necessary because Trump was not reliable and the possibility of turning state’s evidence was there.

I thought Trump should have done it, and wouldn’t have a problem with Biden pardoning him for the crimes for which he has been charged and tried. But a nearly 11 year lookback for crimes yet undiscovered that covers both a portion of Biden’s VP term and when Hunter got involved with Burisma is the smoking gun that all the allegations about the family’s corruption are true.

I always thought they were since it’s the most obvious explanation for Hunter having a career of any kind at all, but it also puts the lie to the concept that Joe had no knowledge of his son’s business dealings – he obviously would have to in order to put this specific time span on the pardon for it to be useful.

The only question now is who else gets pardoned.

“I doubt the incoming A/G has the fire in the belly like a Matt Gaetz does, but I hope Trump will find a way to go after Leticia James.”

If you honestly think that, then I suggest you read Pam Bondi’s excellent resume. She is more than capable, the fire is definitely there, and she can be very focused indeed. IF Trump wants her specifically to go after James, Pam is the right person to do so. Pam is Gaetz, minus the suit, the male parts, and the baggage that would’ve only served to tarnish his reputation in a long drawn out Senate confirmation. No baggage with Pam, plus…she’s very loyal to the boss.

Also, if Governor De Santis isn’t going to appoint Gaetz to fill Rubio’s vacant seat, perhaps he could appoint Lara Trump, who is another fine future leader and more than capable of going up vs various government undesirables.

Biden misspoke – he meant to pardon Trump:

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It’s what a father does.

When was joe Biden ever right about anything?

Absolutely not. A conscientious prosecutor would have secured indictments of a dozen Biden family members. NONE of them merit a pardon. You might excuse papa from prosecution on the grounds he’s incompetent to stand trial.
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It’s another indicator that we’re living in a civic latrine.

Is it even legally feasible to create pardons for unprosecuted crimes? If he can do a blanket pardon of anything a person does over a 10 year period, can he do blanket pardons for the top 1,000 people in the DNC? Why not 50,000? You could probably sign your signature 50,000 times in one long day. Or the 900 unprosecuted people who created fraudulent ballots to tip your party into control?

Pardoning without a prosecuted crime seems like “qualified immunity”, only more so — COMPLETELY unaccountable elites who can steal, kill, and destroy, to their hearts content, with absolutely no recourse by the populace. On such a path, maybe Mencius gets his monarchy.

Not a surprise

Agree.

They operate with a sense that they are above it all; that no matter what, something will come along to bail them out.

Not much to say about this–other than “not surprised.”

Are you implying Joe Biden was afraid his own son – if unpardoned – would sell him (Joe) out and spill the beans, implicating Joe in major crimes; and that Hunter would do such a thing in order to secure a lighter sentence for himself (or just out of revenge against Joe, if there were no pardon) ?
If so, you must have an extremely low opinion of the integrity of the president and his son.

Speaking of “the family’s corruption”, could it be that one of the reasons why customers pay usurious interest rates on credit cards may be found in the person of Joe Biden? Ever since he was elected senator from Delaware in 1972, he has been living off the largesse showered upon him and his family by the credit card companies/banks who run his home state.

I completely understand Steve’s understanding. He and Biden both sort of resemble the same doddering, sentimental old man you see feeding pigeons at the park.

Yes, it’s his son.
And quit moralizing, all political classes in the developed world are corrupt & malign to the core, many of them being directly involved in murders, theft & horrible oppression. What do you think Xi’s, Meloni’s, Orban’s (wouldn’t even mention his level of corruption), von der Leyen’s, Trump’s, Netanyahu’s… families have in the closet.

Old Joe is supposedly a Roman Catholic,
I expect he went to confession and a priest told him it was OK…

“these indulgences will cleanse you of sins you haven’t yet committed!”
was ever the cry of one itinerate “priest”
that travelled Europe selling them back in the day…

Trump already is raising the question of the “J6 hostages” on his Truth account and demanding to know why Biden didn’t pardon them along with Hunter, so he’s not quite as oblivious as all that.

[what happened to the post about out of wedlock stats?]

Tangentially, I think I figured out the key insight into that graph on the cover of Peter Turchin’s Ages of Discord, if anyone is interested to hear it. What does economic inequality have to do with violence in a society where poor people are more likely to be obese? The answer to that turns out to be simple: marriage rates.

Finding a mate is a matter of relative wealth. If economic inequality is increasing, more men are having a harder time finding a mate. Then they become incels. And those are the guys that become violent. Why do men who don’t have wives become violent? That seems like an age old question. But it is pretty obvious when you read the incels who make light of mass shootings that that particular state of life is not conducive to a healthy regard for human life and peaceful society.

I emailed Prof Turchin about this point but I was very disappointed that he has not gotten back to me. It seems like a very important insight to be aware of. It also seems like it is right up Steve’s alley, what with his theory of Affordable Family Formation having held up so well over the years. I think we can say that if war is the health of the state, then marriage is the health of society.

But a nearly 11 year lookback for crimes yet undiscovered that covers both a portion of Biden’s VP term and when Hunter got involved with Burisma is the smoking gun that all the allegations about the family’s corruption are true.

Exactly. This move is not just to pardon Hunter, but to protect his brother Jim. And himself. And all their crooked “business” deals in China and Ukraine, which were obviously influence peddling schemes, trading on Joe’s office. What else would they be? Why else would anyone put this guy on their board of directors:

And a blanket pardon for anything he might have done over the last ten years?! What if video of him handing classified information to Chinese spies turned up? What if the body of one of Biden’s hookers is found in a national park with Hunters necktie around her neck? So,…….all good then? Joe Biden and his whole family are slime. Hunter Biden is kind of like Cesare Borgia. The Bidens are our Borgias. Screw these people. They all deserve to rot in jail.

By the way, David Mamet is writing a movie about Hunter Biden. Check out these libs gnashing their teeth about it and especially how their Hollywood idols have fallen short in their eyes for agreeing to be in it. It’s funny.

I regret to inform you that David Mamet has written a movie about Hunter Biden: THE PRINCE, starring Scott Haze, Nicolas Cage, J.K. Simmons, Giancarlo Esposito & Andy Garcia. Production has begun, directed by Cameron Van Hoy.

https://www(dot)reddit(dot)com/r/blankies/comments/1decdgy/i_regret_to_inform_you_that_david_mamet_has/?rdt=43507

To quote old Joe himself, c’mon, man. This pardon has nothing to do with your imagined omnipotent Jews, and everything to do with Joe’s desire to protect himself and his worthless offspring from any future investigations of the whole Burisma scam. He’s senile, but not so senile that he doesn’t retain self-preservation instincts and some fleeting family loyalty, on the lowest level of “me and my kinfolk against the world.” As a Scrantonian myself, I know classic Northeast Irish-American cronyism, corruption, and nepotism when I see it; the Jews have no monopoly on those vices. A lot of Joe’s actions have clearly been directed by others, but he definitely decided on this action himself.

“Lets start with Leonard Peltier and Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning, John Kiriakou and many others deserving of mercy who have actually been politically persecuted.”

Derrick Chauvin and his fellow convicted police officers over the Floyd lie, James Fields, Travis and Gregory McMichael, and William Bryan seem more pressing.

“The biggest stereotype buster is the trope that all crack smokers are Black. Hunter and his lover, his former sister in law no less, are exhibit A that rich white people smoke crack too. They just don’t go to prison for it like poor people of all colors do. ”

Nonsense. Nobody has ever said ONLY negroes smoke crack. And almost nobody goes to jail for smoking crack. They go to jail for selling it, or for committing crimes that are related to facilitating their use of it, like theft, robbery, etc.

Rich people, like Hunter and Whitney Houston, don’t need to steal to buy it. That’s why they don’t go to jail for using it.

I suggest contacting Ron Unz and asking him to allow you to change your handle to something more accurate, like “Hey Brother, Can You Spare a Clue” or “#1 Law and Order Fan.”

Robert Hunter Biden = Dern rotten heir, bub!

A bad, enabling father, yes.

If sloppy Joe were a good father, Hunter wouldn’t be what he is.

Given the breadth of the pardon, could Hunter now be compelled to give testimony that would have otherwise been covered by the 5th Amendment?

As far as Joe Biden’s legacy, and even the legacy of his (crime) family, is concerned, it would have made much more sense for Biden to work out an agreement with Trump whereby Trump would pardon Hunter. But this would then have allowed Trump to use Hunter’s pardon as political cover to pardon the political prisoners from January 6. And Biden and/or his handlers are too venal to agree to that. Instead, Biden’s legacy will be trashed even more. But, from Biden’s perspective, at least the Democrats and the MSM will be able to mostly bore us with bs stories about how terrible it is that Trump pardoned the January 6 political prisoners.

Of course, this assumes that Trump will pardon the January 6 political prisoners. Indeed, if Trump does not pardon the January 6 political prisoners, we will learn something very disturbing about Trump.

the church’s opposition to the death penalty doesn’t mean much to him.
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The ‘Church’s opposition’ is not part of the ordinary Magisterium. It’s a personal predilection of the last three Popes (two of whom offered qualified complaints).
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The only reasons to commute the sentences on federal death row is if (1) you doubt the defendant is guilty as charged or (2) you think the sentence is excessive.
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Nearly everyone on federal death row has been convicted of murder with aggravating factors: multiple victims, in the course of kidnappings, in the course of robberies, for victim and witness intimidation, &c.
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The most objectionable aspect is that courts in our time are fora for lawyers to play footsie with each other and capital cases are a venue for appellate judges to impose their policy preferences to the extent they can. Theses characters have been sitting on death row for a median of 17 years. They were convicted in federal court, so you don’t have layers of state and federal appeals. The appeals should have been exhausted within five years.
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Another objectionable aspect is that federal intervention was generally gratuitous. One appears to have been convicted in a court-martial. In ten cases, the excuse for bigfooting the local prosecutor was that the accused was in federal custody at the time and in two others that the accused was on federal land. The rest appear to have been that the accused was committing a federal crime at the time. (NB, robbery and kidnapping are also state crimes).

Lets start with Leonard Peltier and Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning, John Kiriakou and many others deserving of mercy who have actually been politically persecuted.
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Bradley Manning has not been politically persecuted. He’s been mollycoddled every step of the way.

“Steve is not into heavy. He is into humorous observations – akin to Jerry Seinfeld humor.”

Steve is far, far more humorous than Jerry Seinfeld. Hell, even Corvinus and HA are more humorous than Jerry Seinfeld. Although in the cases of Corvinus and HA, their humor is unintentional.

There’s an audio tape of Joe boasting that when a Ukranian prosecutor looked into corruption at Burisma, a gas company Hunter was on the board of, Joe threatened to cut off aid to Ukraine unless the prosecutor was fired.

So Hunter, thanks to all his valuable business acumen, was on the board of a natural gas company that was under investigation. Coincidentally, his father was Vice President of the United States, and used his influence to stop said investigation. Guess who got impeached for that, Donald Trump!

https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/

https://oversight.house.gov/timeline/ukraine-11/biden-firing-ukraine-prosecutor-clip/

What do the legal minds here think about this? Is this true?…

Over at Althouse, some commenter pointed out that Hunter’s pardon all the way back to 2014 grants him immunity from prosecution, but nullifies his Fifth Amendment recourse. So that in a much deeper, more sweeping investigation, including all the dicey Ukraine stuff, he could be made to testify under oath about all sorts of nefarious dealings, including against the despicable Big Guy. Watch in wonder as Hunter marries his own father in order to evade the witness box…

Trump needs to go full Genghis on every single one of them, in every direction, show no mercy, and put dozens and dozens of heads on spikes, or it’s Game Over. Hell, it’s probably game over anyway, but at least it would be fun to watch.

What Do You Think of Biden’s Pardon for Hunter?

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Was Biden showering with his young daughter a federal crime?

Brandon doesn’t need to claim anything. It’s been abundantly clear for over seven years Brandon has dementia. His bizarre outbursts, public inability to complete a thought, loss of motor control and even incontinence. Why do you think he was kept in the basement? Why did the ward heelers count fraudulent ballots behind boarded up windows? Because Brandon was a whip-smart sharp candidate, or because he was an old degenerate with the visible signs of dementia?

Alongside immigration, the debt, and the wars we are involved in the Hunter Biden issue is of no importance.
But, venal and corrupt leadership is causing these other real problems, so dealing with their corruption is still important. Hunter was influence peddling on behalf of Joe – it all goes back to Joe Biden selling his political influence to make a fortune in Ukraine. Their crimes were a step in starting the war in Ukraine.
Forget about reconciliation. You can’t temper justice with mercy unless you get some justice first. We need justice against the Democrats for their many crimes against our Republic these past years. This is no time for weakness.

Leonard Peltier? He’s who you would pardon? Not someone who’s innocent, someone who admitted shooting at the FBI. They just happened to catch a couple bullets. Cloudy with a chance of a fusillade.

I, as a member of the Dissident Right and a Trump supporter, am unsurprised by it. We knew Biden was corrupt, stole an election, went after his political opponents, etc. The anti-Trump hysteria carried on in the Biden era, and the coverup of Biden’s dementia was only one of many lies told. Pardoning his bagman corrupt criminal son to protect himself and his money supply was a pretty clear act given the broad pardon powers. Not predictiable, but not shocking either. It makes Biden a liar and makes Hunter seem guilty. Ho hum, we all believed this anyway. Its useful for Trump guys when Trump does something bold and unprecedented, especially using pardon powers, but the Left doesn’t care about hypocrisy, so its only mildly attack-worthy.

However, many on the Left and the Democrats are taking this much worse. Many are “shocked” by it and castigating Biden for it publicly. Hard to tell who are the true believers and who are merely using it as an excuse to kick Biden, but the outcry is eye-opening; this could have been buried, like Hunter’s laptop, but the news media and Twitter are leading with it.The symbolism of Biden pardoning the son the D’s swore forever did nothing wrong is really digging into people who defended/voted D in a way things like the Hunter laptop, Ray Epps, the impeachment hoaxes, the Mueller Report, and the FBI spying didn’t.

Anecdotally: I have a Deep Blue friend who I can banter about politics with. But when I sent him the link about the pardon and ribbed him mildly in 2 texts, he gave me wall of text response and has, in the last 12 hours, sent me about 7 texts about it and/or attacking Trump. Massive cope, it struck a nerve.

Something about the pardon power is really powerful in the public mind.

This.

The extent to which Biden’s power has been manifested by the extremely concentrated corporate interests in Delaware is something unexplored.

I would have been okay with Trump pardoning Hunter as a gesture of reconciliation.

Uh…the same Biden handlers/supporters who have gone after Trump with 2 impeachment hoaxes and Jan 6th nonsense and politically prosecuted him in 2 federal cases and 1 state, while rounding up his supporters and political advisers in similar kangaroo courts?

Yeah, reconciliation comes after they’re tossed in jail.

Steve, there’s water under the bridge, and then there’s Truth and Reconciliation.

Time for Trump’s version of the Nuremberg Trials.

Lower than whale shit? Lower than a snake’s belly? You mean the child groping, uncle sniffy isn’t a paragon of decency and moral fiber?

The pardon is actually for Joe Biden, himself. It goes back to 2014 when Joe Biden was VP for Obama, and Hunter Biden was placed on the Board of Directors of Burisma (along with relatives last names Pelosi, Romney, Kerry…). “10% for the Big Guy!” That’s what the pardon is for, and Hunter leveraged a ‘book deal’ where he would tell all. Not complicated, just an illegally installed President, just like Lula in Brazil.

If anyone had any lingering questions about Joe Biden being a lying scumbag, they are now moot.

As many have noted, this will make Trump’s upcoming expected pardons of various people put into a new context.

We will be well rid of him soon.

Meanwhile we can watch the Democrats try to figure out how they ended up in Cloud-cuckoo-land.

I would have been okay with Trump pardoning Hunter as a gesture of reconciliation.

Reconcile with what? Biden doesn’t represent anything to the general public or his voters he was just not-Trump and even with such a low barrier he was so bad it’s amazing. All he represents is the same corrupt establishment everyone, including Biden and Harris voters wish to see destroyed. He’s just a guy whose dad owned a dealership. Why are they all like that? I don’t know but they are. The Onion got him right.

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OT: The MSM seems to have found a form of “whiteness” they like. They are all gushing about the overcleaned interior of Notre Dame which now resembles a Mormon Temple or a parody of what Donald Trump would do to ti’s interior. The limestone walls are now brilliant bleached white taking all the warmness out of the space and making it altogether too bright.

The normie media keep talking about the method employed, using a sprayed on latex that is then peeled off to imply that this mere physical action is taking all the dirt and grim away. But in reality the latex is laced with EDTA (Anyone who has done anything to do with organic chemistry can attest how powerful that stuff is) and ammonia. When they are forced to defend it they will no doubt say this is all very scientific and understood but this method has not been used much and when it has on very different kinds of stones. And when first used in St. Paul’s cathedral in London, caused several workers to incur respiratory and eye damage from ammonia and EDTA fumes. That restoration also made the stones whiter than they originally were and apparently damaged the stones so much that it increased the total surface area of them from the outer layer being dissolved that they reflect light much more than they originally did even when freshly cut.

I had to go to an art news website to discover this.

It’ll be interesting if after the initial position press subsides this becomes a major issue, a scandal like this is exactly what the media and social media love, a botched restoration in the pursuit of political glory.

https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2022/11/22/notre-dames-fresh-interiorcleaned-with-controversial-latex-pastewill-deliver-a-shock-restoration-chief-promises

https://artlawandmore.com/2022/12/12/critics-warn-against-notre-dames-shock-inducing-restoration-programme

https://archinect.com/news/article/150331071/notre-dame-s-shocking-interior-cleaning-is-sparking-a-debate-about-methods-used-in-architectural-restoration

Crucially all these articles are from late 2022 when it was first announced with little published on it so far now we see how shocking the apparent overcleaning has been. It seems like people have just accepted that this is the way it had to be or feel fearful of criticizing it. No doubt they may also justify it by saying the toxic lead-saturated soot from the fire had to be aggressively removed and that it was this or nothing. But the time this substance is on the stone matters and no doubt it was an aesthetic choice to have it on as long as they did. Reading between the lines that seems to be the case.

The old interior was warm, darker and contemplative with also a feel of how ancient the cathedral is. The new one is harsh, too bright and doesn’t encourage contemplation. Along with now garish contrasts between gold ornamentation and the white stone. The intense brightness from the stonework also washes out the stain glass windows. A similar thing happened to St. Paul’s. Though hopefully it hasn’t damaged the stone as much as it did there. It’s like a kid putting an old coin in coke to remove the actually valuable and desirable patina.

It seems like the donation mechanism may have helped bring this tragedy about too. By having an already hefty budget it seems like there may have been pressure and momentum to spend it. Maybe over time the stone will regain a warm and darker patina again but surely that will take a long time.

I’ve always said Brimelow and Derb are hyper-focused on immigration to protect British interests. An America that turns brown and speaks Spanish can’t be relied upon to fund the Pilgrims Society, the Atlantic Council and the CFR, let alone invade Iraq and Libya, both British ideas. This is why I’m torn on immigration. I don’t want my country to become Juarez, but the bigger picture says it could be a death blow to British power, which would be beneficial for the entire world.

Edit: They are claiming there is no ammonia or EDTA in it. So it seems maybe the only damage is aesthetic. Though what else they used in their place I don’t know.

They also seem to have apply it for several days so I don’t know if it took more than a bit of the stone with it through physical action.

I would have been okay with Hunter being locked up for years unless he agreed to testify against his corrupt father

Why do you think Joe pardoned him?

> Biden talks loudly about 2 minor charges that Hunter has been charged with… Then he pardons him for a 10-year period of all crimes.

Yes. More significant than the pardon was the timing of the Justice Department’s handling of Hunter Biden’s serious wrongdoing. Specifically, the slow-walking of his Burisma board lucre, his consulting jackpots from PLA-owned Chinese companies, and his tax evasion. (If Hunter had evaded paying taxes on unreported foreign income, then so had the other members of the Biden family who had profited through Hunter from those cozy relationships.)

Oh, darn. If the belatedly-appointed Special Prosecutor doesn’t rush to indict Hunter on those major crimes, the statute of limitations will pass.

Oh, darn.

““I beg your pardon…â€� “I never promised you a poppy garden.”

Was it like that?

Sorry!!!

Serious question:

which was worse: Biden’s pardoning Hunter for obvious personal protection from prosecution and for straight nepotism (fairness and the law be danged), or Clinton pardoning Marc Rich (among others) straight for cash?

The election.

What Do You Think of Biden’s Pardon for Hunter?

i’m lovin’ it ®. Biden just robbed the MSM/Democrats of auto-generated ‘outrage’ content if/when Trump pardons everyone on our side. Also, sanctimonious appeals to “rule of lawâ€� are now even more hilarious than ever.

“Naigme’s Brimilaoughah, Pea-errgh Brimelaughghh.” Nah, I don’t think so.

Hunter is on video smoking crack and hanging out with a prostitute.

Not sure how much you can redeem his image at this point.

Everyone views him as the loser of the family.

I really doubt he would have done hard time. Maybe a few months in a country club prison.

Not okay with it but it really doesn’t change anything.

It’s astonishing that anyone can pretend to be surprised. Of course he was going to pardon his son.

Biden was right to pardon his son.

Hunter wouldn’t have been charged if he weren’t Biden’s son. The justice system was weaponized against him to score political points. And it was a huge waste of taxpayer funds.

Where Biden was wrong is in not forcefully calling out this political fishing expedition years ago. He let Republicans, Fox News, talk radio, and social media spin doctors control the narrative.

We peons still just want to keep our heads down and not be raped (physically or financially) by the roi du jour whether it be Giau Bai Den, Louis XIV, or the latest Ottoman Sultan.

Those in power will do what they want and only occasionally get a dramatic comeuppance such as decapitation. The rest of us should pull back, shelter our resources and enjoy our lives.

For centuries people were imprisoned for criticizing their government and elite. Yet for 150 some years people in the USA could boldly criticize and protest the actions of their government. They could refuse to talk to agents of the State. There were no secret ex parte courts, there was no national police force.

We lost a lot of that not because we have worse people at the top. the people who designed the Constitution knew human nature. They did not rely on the ruler’s good nature, they had a balance of powers, two entire sovereigns (federal and state with differing interests), jury trials, right to confront accusers, etc. I think we have lost respect for the institutions that preserved our liberty.

What Texas and Florida governors did shows the wisdom of many centers of power.

She’s right.

This reminds me of what Steve said about concentric circles of loyalty.

Hating the Biden pardon is as ‘woke’ as it gets. Nothing is ‘woker’ than the expectation that you’d betray your family for the party. If you don’t understand this, you’ll never understand why Trump is popular. Take the keys away from anyone mad about this. They’re losers.

— Rachel🇮🇴 (@tolstoybb) December 2, 2024

Right again. She gets it.

Seeing moderates try to triangulate on the Hunter Biden pardon, and arriving at some phony “institutions over family� bit, can tell you a lot about why Dems lost in 2024. These people are just losers. They’re playing with rules that never existed.

— Rachel🇮🇴 (@tolstoybb) December 2, 2024

Maybe the pardon gets the Biden’s out from under the (((Neocon))) thumb.

Fun “rule of law� compilation 🙂 :

SUPERCUT!

Corporate media: Obviously Biden would never pardon Hunter pic.twitter.com/gJRhASCAUs

— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) December 2, 2024

The felonies Hunter were convicted of speak to his poor character (crack, handgun violations, etc.). But so what, many such cases. He was never indicted on the charges that were serious in terms of his celebrity parent — influence peddling in Ukraine, accepting/extorting payoffs from front organizations for the CCP. And, if the [sarc] Russian disinformation [/sarc] laptop hard drive is to be believed, distribution of the ill-gotten gains to family members. Including to his celebrity parent.

ACH DU LIEBER, it’s you again. Buy yourself something nice for Christmas:

"Honey, I want a Barbour jacket for Christmas. I am an Anglophile at heart."
"No you're not, you screamed at me for two hours yesterday about how the English ruined everything and said we'd have been better off if the Kaiser had nukes."
"That doesn't mean I'm not an Anglophile." pic.twitter.com/71bGbNUNOh

— James Kirkpatrick (@VDAREJamesK) November 24, 2024

I’m stealing that, TOTCD, with attribution. Nice job!

Meh. I don’t see it as being of any real consequence. Certainly less than Trump pardoning Bannon. A father who has the power to keep his son out of prison keeps his son out of prison. Fine, let’s move on. I really just want to move on from the Bidens. This whole wreaking vengeance thing is stupid and counterproductive. Hey Trump, you won guy — let it go!

We already knew that Biden was a lying genocidist and a whore for Israel. Now we can add “unethical, corrupt scumbag�.

I.e., just a typical politician.

For the first time in years, I’m proud to call myself an American 🇺🇸

Hunter pulled nearly $100K a month sitting on Zoom conference calls for Burisma, half the time a teenage hawty slobbing his knob just inches off-camera. What a chad!

Smoking crack, banging teenage whores, getting money for nuthin….. Hunter is a stud, a true blue American success story 🇺🇸

And selling his beautiful artwork for millions 💰. Absolute genius.

If anyone deserved a blanket pardon, it is Hunter Biden: a colossus, a titan walking amongst mere mortals.

“…protecting the Biden crime cartel from Kash Patel”

SafeNow, could be. But does not the timing suggest Hunter was imminently going to be “forced” to roll on the family syndicate. Or perhaps it’s as simple as Biden realizing he won’t make to end of term?

Welcome back, NEWMAN! I kneeeewwww you couldn’t quit this place 😘

Pure sleaze.

Look I would give both the Bidens 10 years of hard labor in Haiti if I could. Heck I would give his wife a year for pushing her husband into office. That is felony reckless endangerment.

I just don’t care at this point.

His crackhead son blew all of his Ukraine board cash.

A loser like that is his own worst enemy. He couldn’t even sit on a fake board job that paid six figures and required him to do absolutely nothing.

The Bidens were a mistake and everyone knows it. The Democrats are kicking themselves for not holding him to his promise of one term. If they held an actual primary then Harris would have been defeated and a better candidate would have gone against Trump.

The left never even liked the Bidens. They only rallied around him after he was saved by Blacks in the primary. They didn’t want a White man and even Obama only endorsed him at the very end.

One of the perks of being president, besides having your own plane with free travel, is that you can pardon your own family for various federal crimes.

It makes up for all the tedious stuff like having to make visits to heads of state of boring countries and pretend to be interested in what they say and eat foreign food.

This was built into the job description at the time when America was still not sure whether it wanted to have a king or a president.

America has the highest proportion of its population imprisoned of any nation on earth. When Trump comes back into office he could easily pardon a few million people from the swing states to ensure a republican majority for the future.

Thanks, I am reminded of the words William Safire put in Spiro Agnew’s mouth regarding the media:

“An effete corps of impudent snobs.”
🙂

https://twitter.com/i/status/1863537344038740264

Everything about these pompous twits is barfable — their body language, their unctuous voices, their drag-queen make-up, their clumsy acting, their shameless lying, everything!

Oh yeah, they’re also war criminals.

You’re welcome to it, pal, but don’t forget, you’ll need to include the photo to make the “crooked smile� part clear.

I guess Biden changed his mind.

All the moral preening by and for Biden in the MSM, pushing the anti-Trump narrative (that Trump considers himself “above the law”) was the only point of Biden lying about this all along. And of course Biden himself was being enriched by the influence peddling, and stands to gain from the pardon (hence the general pardon dating for all offenses from 2014). At this point, no American should trust any Democrat or MSM source when it comes to public policy. Sadly, it appears that 48% of Americans will vote D no matter what (or who the candidate is).

Who cares? Personal vindictiveness against the Bidens isn’t going to get us anywhere. The Bidens are finished in politics, and other leftists won’t learn anything from a prosecution of a “cocaine addict.”. Much more important is wreaking havoc in the 3 -letter agencies and increasing transparency and reducing classified materials

Welcome to the Third World! America is officially now a Banana Republic.

A good question!

What’s sauce for Trump’s goose is sauce for Biden’s gander.

The big difference is that the dimocrat lawfare against Trump in local jurisdictionshas been entirely legal bullshit and will ultimately fail on appeal. It may even take down some dimocrat prosecutors for various ethical lapses.

OTOH, the Biden mob has probably violated any number of serious state and local laws. I hope some local prosecutors will go after them for these on the theory that they should pay for at least some of their crimes.

It’s obvious that one of the concessions Biden got for dropping out of the presidential race was a promise that the expected dimocrat victors would pardon Hunter Biden. When dimocrat victory didn’t materialize, Biden was forced into the embarrassing position of breaking his promises and pardoning his son for all the crimes he committed over the past ten years, both known and currently unknown.

As someone pointed out elsewhere, the closest analogy to this blanket pardon is Johann Tetzel’s papal indulgences, a proximate cause of the Reformation. I hope the revulsion against this level of blatant corruption will have a similar effect.

can anybody speak to the mechanics here? i was definitely not under the impression any legal language of this nature was even possible.

1) don’t you have to specify an existing conviction or convictions, or at least an existing indictment, to strike from the record? since when can a Presidential Pardon can be completely open ended like a reverse fishing expedition, granting a person a reverse indictment forcefield? huh?

2) what are the limitations or maximum duration of this new ability which i never heard about before? so if i’m President, can i just say, Person X is exempt from any crime he ever did since the time he was born until today?

3) so the only rule that we’re keeping is that the pardon cannot extend into the future, and is good for any action taken in the past, up and until the end of the calendar day today?

so does this mean the President can do a 1 day pre-emptive pardon for person X? “Person X is pardoned for anything they do on calendar day today.” huh? so i can pre-emptively pardon a couple guys at 9am, then at 10am they can start going around killing people, until midnight, and they’re good to go? how does it all work, exactly?

4) can’t i just automate this so the ENTIRE NATIONAL Democrat voter roll in 2024 is granted a Presidential Pardon from literally the day they were born until the day I leave office? if not, why not? how could there be any limitation on me retroactively pardoning every single Democrat voter by mechanizing the process? hand signatures are the only limitation? why keep that rule? why not just kill all your political enemies then pardon the guys who did it?

5) why did Biden do the pardon now, and not on his final day in office as is customary? because a crazy Indian guy was nominated to run FBI and Biden decided that was his trigger event? “Oh snap, this Indian guy might get us, I’m not gonna even wait, and hell, I might even forget to pardon him in 2 months.”

If so, you must have an extremely low opinion of the integrity of the president and his son.

Anyone who doesn’t have that opinion by now is a blockhead.

His other son is dead.

i saw Steve’s post about “Stereotypes Confirmed” and even replied, but he deleted the entire post. guess it was an accidental upload or something. he deleted it fast enough that the Internet Archive doesn’t seem to have a record of it appearing on unz.com

Guess what – he’s gonna testify now unless Joe pardons himself.

If you are at risk for prosecution and someone asks you about a crime that you and someone else (let’s say your father for example) have been jointly involved in, you can refuse to testify in order to preserve your rights against self-incrimination. But if you have been immunized, then the 5th Amendment is no longer available as a defense and you can be held in contempt and imprisoned if you refuse to give testimony.

I would have been OK with the pardon if Biden had not blatantly lied before the election and said that he would never pardon Hunter.

Also the pardon is unusually broad (not just the crimes for which he has been indicted but ALL possible Federal crimes going back 10 yrs).

Note that the President can only pardon FEDERAL crimes. Hunter is still on the hook for all state law crimes. Most of his crimes happened in blue states where he will never be prosecuted but the Biden laptop revealed DOZENS of crimes, some of which must have happened in red states. If I was a Red State A.G. I would be combing that drive for prosecutable state crimes in my state.

If I was a Red State A.G. I would be combing that drive for prosecutable state crimes in my state.

That sounds like weaponizing the justice system.

Red State AG’s have already been doing this for years. Republican politicians know that charging a Biden would be great political capital for the Republican primary of a Senate or Governor election.

I’m fine with it.

Now the House can haul him up under oath and have him testify to the shady dealings involving other family members. He can’t take the Fifth. And if he turns out to have perjured himself in that future testimony, try him and jail him.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/flashback-false-democrat-narrative-respect-rule-law-exposed

I will say that of all the seemingly endless insults and abuse the “Biden Administration” has directed at the American people this is the first one where I think “Yeah, this was probably Joe’s idea”.

“But if you have been immunized, then the 5th Amendment is no longer available as a defense and you can be held in contempt and imprisoned if you refuse to give testimony.”

And if he testifies falsely, he can be charged with perjury. Not that I’m holding my breath waiting for that to happen.

Steve is not into heavy. He is into humorous observations – akin to Jerry Seinfeld humor. So he does notice most of what the Power Brokers of Anglo-Zionist Empire work hard to keep anybody from acknowledging having noticed. But that seems to be his limit. So Steve is mildly amusing all the time while being right about a whole bunch of little things. Steve sees a whole bunch of trees while missing the forest.

Then again, when 90% or more of those who can recognize the Jewish Problem refuse to see that the Jewish Problem is inextricably tied to WASP empire, then Steve’s weaknesses aint shit. Can’t see the forest for the trees is bad, but can’t see half the forest because you are obsessed only with the other half is worse.

You mean formerly WASP empire. Jews have been in the drivers seat since at least WWII and they expunged the last vestiges of actual WASP power in the 1960s. Every year since then the number of WASPs in the actual elite has dwindled while Jews in power increase. You are playing the old game of hiding Jewish power behind the decaying facade of former WASP power and influence. Noticing who actually holds power and makes the actual decisions isn’t being “obsessed” it is understanding reality as it is, and not being afraid of being name-called as a “Jew obsessed” anti-semite.

This equivocation is equivalent to being obsessed with conspiracy theories about Bill Gates or Tom Hanks while ignoring Blackrock and Harvey Weinstein. Once again, the only people who actually understand what is going on are Jews and Nazis. To paraphrase Greg Conte: “Jewish power means Jewish responsibility.” Wriggling out of responsibility is a typical Jewish trait, which you are enabling. WASPs are in this case the scapegoat or sin chicken for actual Jewish power today.

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And now that a serious rival is arising from BRICS, Trump is outright threatening economic warfare on those countries. That’s how FDR got us into WWII.

Huh? Japan bombed us because of tariffs? No, our oil embargo was twinned with our “Lend Lease” to another belligerent, rendering our claims to neutrality fraudulent. That wasn’t “economic warfare”, it was warfare warfare.

Bring back manufacturing

Wait a second… How was he going to “bring back manufacturing” without “economic warfare” of some kind? Reagan threatened tariffs, and then all those foreign auto makes’ plants started showing up here.

Things Trump did do the first time:

You left out recognizing Morocco’s theft of Western Sahara.

Allow cities to burn in 2020

When was Trump elected governor or mayor of these cities?

Gee, I wonder how the debt has reached the unpayable 30 trillion dollars? Could it be from cutting taxes?

No. Harding and Coolidge cut taxes, as did Truman and JFK. Debt didn’t explode. It might be something on the other side of the ledger, though.

But if you have been immunized, then the 5th Amendment is no longer available as a defense and you can be held in contempt and imprisoned if you refuse to give testimony.

I think about this every time I read of a prosecution of a teacher for bedding a teenage boy. This sort of thing didn’t happen in our day, but had I been the “victim” of one of these teachers, you could not have tortured testimony out of me. But I wouldn’t have been the one on trial, nor subject to prosecution. So would my silence have been contempt?

But had I talked, it would still be contempt. Not of court, buy my own, directed at myself. A gentleman doesn’t kiss and tell.

I’m not sure what to advise my sons. But they’re in online school, so any flirtation would be of the RFK Jr kind.

(Did you know that online schools get Cyber Monday off? The Internet’s too slow that day.)

Why would he have to testify?
Couldn’t he simply refuse like George W. Bush?

Russert: Will you testify before the commission?

Bush: This commission? You know, I don’t testify? I will be glad to visit with them. I will be glad to share with them knowledge. I will be glad to make recommendations, if they ask for some.

☮

He’s not pardoning his son. He is pardoning himself. If they cannot get to Hunter, then they can’t get to the “Big Guy”.

What about his contention that blacks go to prison for smoking crack? I was under the impression that that doesn’t happen absent trafficking/dealing.

What could be more conservative than choosing family over State?
Whatever one thinks of Biden as President conservatives should be standing and cheering the pardon.

I would have been okay with Trump pardoning Hunter as a gesture of reconciliation.

I think it’s fine.

I guess I’m some sort of old style republican (small-r) fuddy duddy, who believes in legal equality and thinks our politicians are supposed to live under the same laws as the rest of us–not to mention actually work in the interest of normal productive citizens.

I don’t know exactly what crimes Hunter Biden’s been indicted for, but it is 100% undeniable that he was running a very lucrative operation trading on his father’s position as VP taking point on Ukraine policy. I.e. Hunter Biden was not being richly very compensated for any personal capability, but was collecting bribes trading on the power and might of the United States. Question for my fellow Americans: Does your son get to do that? Uh, no.

This was openly and obviously what was going on and is outrageous. But apparently the Biden family running a shakedown operation based on US power–privatizing and monetizing a slice of American power–was just ho-hum with America’s “leadership” class and the media. What’s the big deal?

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I think the fundamental separation we need is between those who “get” the idea of a nation and a republic–responsible men making decisions in the long-term interests of normal productive citizens and their posterity, of maintaining and reproducing the nation–and those who do not.

China Joe may have shot himself in his own foot.

Hunter can no longer take the Fifth Amendment privilege and may be compelled to give all kinds of testimony implicating Joe himself for activities over the last decade.

That may be as good as the laptop. By the way, where is the laptop now – still at the FBI? And can Trump’s prosecutors now use it?

https://www.newsweek.com/president-joe-biden-biden-pardon-tax-gun-case-congress-fifth-amendment-1994001

It may have been better for Joe to just remain silent and let Hunter do a little time.

President Biden just pardoned Hunter Biden for all federal crimes going back many years including for his federal gun crime conviction.

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I love your commitment to the grand art of satire.

“So in other words, your politics is a meaningless nothing. How can there be any sort of reconciliation, any sort of peace or generosity with these monsters, after all they’ve done? They show no remorse, no second thoughts, and the minute Vance loses in 28, they’ll do it all again, only 9x harder. And they won’t stop plaguing and badgering and reversing Trump for a single second throughout this, his pointless essentially place-holder second term. How can you even think of reconciling with these demons?”

Even granting your view that reconciliation is impossible a gesture of reconciliation could be a worthwhile tactic.

Meanwhile, President Trump may be vaguely vindicated regarding his consciously hyperbolic contention that primitives are eating the cats, as a culinarily defiant American negress has just been sentenced for eating a cat in front of horrified neighbors:

https://nypost.com/2024/12/02/us-news/disgusted-judge-puts-away-woman-who-ate-cat-in-stomach-turning-video-youve-embarrassed-this-nation/

‘…This is National Review level of weakness.’

Whether it’s weakness depends on what you think the goal is.

America has the highest proportion of its population imprisoned of any nation on earth.
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So what?
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When Trump comes back into office he could easily pardon a few million people from the swing states to ensure a republican majority for the future.
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About 90% of those incarcerated are to be found in state prisons. The president’s pardon power extends only to federal prisoners. Yes, I do recall one of your autobiographical fictions was that you were employed in a prison.
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As for the notion that convicts are incipient Republicans, you ought to look who is complaining about disenfranchisement of convicted felons.

I would have been OK with the pardon if Biden had not blatantly lied before the election and said that he would never pardon Hunter.
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Why? Bon bons for criminals in the family is no reason to invest the sovereign with the power to issue pardons. You should have executive clemency because the courts mistreat people.

The Burisma affair was most certainly a State/CIA operation involving the larger plans to make Ukraine a hub for energy shipments to Europe, doing it at Russia’s expense, while skimming million$ in kickbacks.

Hunter was on the inside of the epic fail Ukraine strategy, which kicked in after 2014.

This is much bigger than the limited hangout of his crack and whores petty crimes.

He was 19 when he was compelled by his older brother to take part in that crime. You don’t execute someone for what they did when they were 19.

Or for that matter Trump, who had weeks to do so?

You can’t pardon someone if you don’t know their name.

This is great for Trump, and undercuts the Democrats just when they need to take the moral high ground. This pardon is overly broad, and plenty of essays written by left-wing law professors during Trump’s first presidential administration are quite specific that a president CAN’T do something like this. So we will see if it holds up to any challenges.

If it doesn’t, it would be because of the bribes from Ukraine, as Joe is effectively protecting himself from criminal investigation by making his son immune. But even if it does, Trump can use it to go after other Democrats and Republicans involved in Ukraine by compelling Hunter to testify, as other commenters here have already pointed out.

There will be no reconciliation. Trump warned the Democrats that they were setting precedents they would soon regret when they went after him for non-crimes.

The power to pardon should be used with discretion and judiciously.

The system doesn’t always work and some people are charged wrongfully.
Or over-charged in some case.

Or even if they were guilty, the circumstances allow for some sympathy. Perhaps, the act was done in a fit of righteous rage or idealism.

But this Hunter thing is utterly corrupt, and anyone who rationalizes it as corrupt as the scum in DC.

Pardoning is now a matter of bribery, like with Marc Rich by Clinton.

Or it’s the powerful applying pressure on presidents to let their goons go, like Pollard who’s now in Israel, as a hero no less.

Anyone who’s okay with this pardon as political horse-trading should henceforth never point his dirty finger at the Third World.

Also the pardon is unusually broad (not just the crimes for which he has been indicted but ALL possible Federal crimes going back 10 yrs).

I’m pretty sure that’s legally invalid, Jack. My understanding is that you can only pardon someone for a federal crime for which he has already been convicted.

How the top towns by Italian % voted, 2020 → 2024:

Fairfield, NJ (53%): R+40 → R+48

North Branford, CT (47%): R+12 → R+17

East Hanover, NJ (43%): R+33 → R+41

Lavallette, NJ (41%): R+27 → R+29

— Siddharth Khurana (@SidKhurana3607) December 2, 2024

“America has the highest proportion of its population imprisoned of any nation on earth.”

Is that really “its” population? Is it “America’s” population in any meaningful way? It’s more like, America has a very high imprisoned percentage of an essentially alien, hostile, violent and perpetually oppositional internal-enemy population which hates Americans, does not view itself as being American, does everything in its power to distance itself from, deny, and assault America and the idea of America, and yet staunchly refuses to leave America and go home, which is the only real solution. (No white wimminz or gibs back home.) And in practical terms, a solution which lies only in their leaving of their own volition — bribed, perhaps, but “forced” just ain’t never gonna happen.

During the run-up to the fake-ass Iraq war, all the (((interested-party))) war hawks of my acquaintance pretended to be shocked, shocked by Saddam’s behavior — “he gasses his own people!! (gasp!!) we must send goyim to kill him at once!!!11! Because, uh, he’s Latest Hitler, and we really, really care about the well-being of the, um, Cerds!! Just not enough to fight for them in person. Indiana farm boys will have to do.” I replied, rather coldly, that Saddam was not gassing “his own people”, he was gassing the Kurds — not his own people, but a hostile foreign people unfortunately resident within his borders whom he could not control, not assimilate, and not make peace with. Much amusing Twister-style pilpul ensued.

America is in a similar sticky bind as to who, really, “its own people” actually are. And how to deal with them.

The President has the unlimited power to pardon anyone for any reason.
There have been attempts by the Permanent Government to turn the President into a figurehead like the King of England who has theoretical power but in reality has none. There is a Pardons Commission that makes recommendations to the President as to who he should pardon and this commission has certain criteria for recommending pardons. One of them is that you have to have already served your sentence. It’s like Catch-22 – you can only get a pardon for something that you didn’t do after you have already been punished. It’s like being posthumously rehabilitated in the USSR – classic bureaucrat logic.

It’s all a bunch of shit – the President is personally vested with the pardon power and doesn’t have to listen to any commission. Pardons are most effective BEFORE sentencing. The only limit is political. If you go hog wild then the voters can punish your party at the next election. If Biden had been honest and said that he planned to pardon his son before the election and had done so, he would have been completely within his rights.

But he just lied. He gave us his word as a Biden and the word of a Biden is not worth shit and I’m not sure that the word of any Democrat is any better. Leftists in general believe that it’s OK to lie for a good cause. The cause is more important than the truth in their book and anyway they think people are stupid and can’t handle the truth.

Nope. The Nixon pardon read the same way. I’m not sure it has been tested in court but most authorities think that you can do just that. The Constitution sure doesn’t limit it nor does Congress have any right to legislate about it.

[The President] shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

Article II, Section 2, Clause 1.

Where does it say that you have to be convicted 1st?

This seems important.

Good post from @Noahpinion https://t.co/TwSDvmefAq

— Alec Stapp (@AlecStapp) December 2, 2024

I dunno, Manning went into prison a rotund, spectacled nerd and came out a tranny posting almost-suicide pictures from ledges of tall buildings. Seems like something bad happened in there.

40 years ago, wham! released 'last christmas' pic.twitter.com/JQCtM7iXPJ

— Pop & Hot Culture (@notgwendalupe) December 2, 2024

this is a final, sneering “fuck you� to the American people from the most egregiously awful president in our history.

It all makes sense because he was never elected, merely installed with fake votes while everybody but the J6ers just sat and took it.

The establishment knows they rule over sheep, including Steve, and can do whatever they want, including kill a sitting President in broad daylight 61 years ago.

One thing I notice about being in the U.S. on vacation is the quality in service at restaurants is so much different than Canada. The people working seem to take much more pride in their jobs, they are excellent with people, very polite & all around different than in Canada.…

— Ryan Gerritsen🇨🇦🇳🇱 (@ryangerritsen) December 2, 2024

Interesting Canadian perspective on America.

The biggest stereotype buster is the trope that all crack smokers are Black.

Nobody believe “all” of anyone are anything: “All Jews are Zionists,” All whites are racist,” etc. What is true is that the vast majority of crack smokers are black just as the vast majority of interracial murderers are black. And yes, black or white, when either commit a crime throw them in prison.

What do you think of Biden’s pardon for Hunter?

I suppose that I would pardon my son, if I stood in Biden’s place. (Fortunately, my sons are better citizens than Biden’s son seems to be, but this is not the point.)

Since long before Trump and Biden, I have believed that prosecutions of an ex-president and his family are inimical to the constitutional order of the United States. You can have revenge against a presidential felon or you can have the peaceful transfer of power when the presidential felon’s four-year term expires, but you cannot have both.

He–they–certainly managed to piss off a large plurality of the citizenry. Sadly, not nearly enough, but just enough to defeat Biden’s impeachment insurance–despite Trump’s talent for self-sabotage.

Reconciliation toward who? Whom?

1) Did he changed his mind or was it in the loop since long ?
2) did he btw also pardoned himself by including the Burisma period ?

Yes. Even people given more limited immunity (so-called use immunity) can be compelled to testify. Some other posters have speculated that one or more additional pardons are coming (for Biden’s brother, for example) as Biden goes out the door. The early pardon for Hunter probably was precipitated by his pending sentencing hearing, which I think was scheduled to happen next week.

Achmed, good to see you back.

Why not?

The Encyclopedia Establishia (Wikipedia) when I looked in 2023 during another discussion about the issue said that

[t]he full extent of a president’s power to pardon has not been fully tested; dicta in Ex parte McCardle informs that it is absolute. Pardons have been used for presumptive cases, such as when President Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon, who had not been charged with anything, over any possible crimes connected with the Watergate scandal, but the Supreme Court has never considered the legal effect of such pardons.

So, why did President Trump with two weeks to do so not issue a blanket pardon or, to your point, individual pardons to those submitting an email request for anyone charged or chargeable solely for their non-violent presence?

This would at least have forced Big Gov to declare it invalid. But when real people were in real trouble for (foolishly) taking his side, the Great Swamp Drainer was afraid even to toss in a pebble.

What do you expect him to do for them once he’s back in office next month?

joe feels he’s a turkeys dad

Maybe a teaser to move more of his TUR readers over to other platforms?

Don’t expect an explanation, or even an acknowledgement. (I’ve recently asked unanswered questions about selective publication and AWOLing by Derbyshire and Mercer, too.) There was a memorable Sailer piece about a royal wedding years ago that was also vaporized.

Nick Cage will be the best Hunter Biden I can possibly imagine.

A commenter pointed out that the study was possibly a fraud, and I’m assuming after more careful examination, Steve likely concurred.

In 24 he did wear a MAGA hat .

Seems related:

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/delaware-judge-ruling/2024/12/02/id/1190116/

Delaware Confiscates $100 Billion of Musk’s Wealth

This could be just the beginning: Now that Hunter has been pardoned, he cannot claim Fifth Amendment rights to avoid cooperating fully with any DOJ investigation into the corruption of the rest of the Biden Gang.
Failure to do so would make him liable to charges of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.
This could be a hoot.

Hunter wouldn’t have been charged if he weren’t Biden’s son. The justice system was weaponized against him to score political points. And it was a huge waste of taxpayer funds.

Hunter was charged, convicted, and ultimately pardoned for lying on his ATF form 4473 and income tax evasion – crimes that the DoJ would have happily prosecuted anyone of us for and with most Democrats cheering them on as they view buying guns and not paying your taxes as among the worst things a person could do. And none of us would get pardons.

So f**k Hunter, and f**k you too.

It’s cuz canucks are lousy tippers.

If Hunter Biden had been treated like an ordinary peon, he would have been asset stripped and given a lengthy sentence in federal prison. He willfully set up a web of LLCs to try to hide millions of dollars of payoffs from shadowy foreign figures, trading off access to his father.

Ordinary parents fail with their children all the time. You influence outcomes but do not control them. However, for ordinary people, failing means your son is working retail or food service at age 38, has a history with street drugs, has seen the inside of the county jail, and has no legitimate children. It doesn’t mean your son is hoovering up millions of dollars in bribe money every year (and investing it in hookers and blow).

He doesn’t need political cover to end the abuse of the J6 protesters. He should just do it and in announcing it provide a meticulous inventory of just how okupiers and Antifa had been handled in blue jurisdictions over the ten years previous. Give us the names of the judges and prosecutors.

Shouldn’t be. More a matter of interest to local child protective and state prosecutors. The thing is, so many barnacles have been added to the federal penal code that there just might be an avenue for the US Attorney prosecuting someone for that.

I thought the Internet Archive was no longer archiving recent content. Wasn’t it attacked in a major DDOS or hack of some kind?

OT — Okay, so whose hellworld bingo card had “and then Korea loses its fucking mind”?

South Korean president Yoon Suk Yeol has declared martial law in the country. pic.twitter.com/rkQIkE71aS

— Clash Report (@clashreport) December 3, 2024

Since the inauguration of our government, the National Assembly has proposed 22 impeachment motions against government officials, and since the launch of the 22nd National Assembly in June, they are already pushing for the impeachment of the 10th individual.

This is unprecedented not only globally but also in the history of our nation since its founding.

By intimidating judges and attempting to impeach numerous prosecutors, they are paralyzing the judiciary. Additionally, efforts to impeach the Minister of the Interior and Safety, the Chair of the Korea Communications Commission, the Chair of the Board of Audit and Inspection, and even the Minister of National Defense are paralyzing the executive branch.

The handling of the national budget has also been disastrous. All major funds essential for the nation’s core functions, drug crime control, and public safety have been slashed, damaging the fundamental functions of the state and leaving the public to suffer from a drug epidemic and public safety crisis.

Ford’s 1974 pardon of Nixon speaks to some of your points.

…As a result of certain acts or omissions occurring before his resignation from the Office of President, Richard Nixon has become liable to possible indictment and trial for offenses against the United States. Whether or not he shall be so prosecuted depends on findings of the appropriate grand jury and on the discretion of the authorized prosecutor…

Now, THEREFORE, I, GERALD R. FORD, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

A lot of the kudzu-like growth in Title 18 of the US Code can be traced back to a ridiculous New Deal era civil case giving a bizarrely expansive interpretation to the Commerce Clause–Wickard v. Filburn.

Hunter Biden is such a reliable disaster that he’s going to get into trouble for stuff not covered by this ridiculous pardon, screencap this and see.

As far as I can tell, if they really want to go after someone they can prosecute him for state crimes (that’s usually what he actually did), then the federal crime of violating the victim’s civil rights.

And then they sue in both federal and state courts for recovery of damages for these crimes.

So much for “no double jeopardy”. They get away with this by saying these are separate jurisdictions.

Biden Forced To Issue Another Pardon After Hunter Commits 17 More Crimes

https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-forced-to-issue-another-pardon-after-hunter-commits-17-more-crimes

Ford pardoned Nixon for things within Nixon’s term as president.

Likely because prosecuting him would have run into problems with presidential immunity and they didn’t want to do that.

Unlike the Democrats recently.

I don’t think the President can pardon future acts but as long as he is President he can keep pardoning you for past acts up until noon on Jan. 20. So he can’t pardon you in advance of your killing spree but he could do it at the end of that day.

The President doesn’t have to pardon people individually by name – he could pardon all Vietnam War draft evaders for example or all people convicted of marijuana possession.

The only limit on his pardon power is the threat of impeachment. If the President is pardoning hit men who are killing his political enemies then Congress could impeach him.

As to why he did it now, Hunter probably put the screws to him on Thanksgiving. He threatened to write some sort of tell-all book implicating Joe unless he got the pardon NOW.

I thought Carter issued a blanket pardon to everyone who had dodged the draft during the Vietnam War. Maybe I am mistaken about some legal/technical detail.

I remember what you wrote about that, Omar. It might be just a bit – fell off the wagon here…

It’s been 5 years since the Flu Manchu cranked up over in the Orient. You and I passed the test, although general results were unfortunately quite abysmal.

Greetings, from one low-brow Conservative son of a bitch to another!

I was hugely, spectacularly wrong. I honestly believed him. I really thought Joe Biden would honor his repeatedly-given word. I was even under the impression that — had Joe Biden NOT publicly repeatedly promised not to pardon Hunter — he STILL would not have pardoned Hunter, because Joe would have put principle, duty, and the public good above personal feelings.

And all this despite my having called Joe “the smiling snake” for years, holding a grudge against him that everyone seems to have forgotten, over his treatment of Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas. Biden had promised them fair and decent treatment, but when their nominations had clearly overcome initial opposition and were on track to cruising to confirmation, and when the left was pushing to do anything to stop them, Biden allowed, indulged and/or personally carried out last-minute smears to try trip them up at the last ditch. Thus showing that he was not just a promise-breaker, but a norms-breaker… those confirmation battles were a huge aggression by the left, a huge escalation in the culture wars. And I remembered this.

During the Obama era, as The Onion and the late-night comedians suddenly all transformed this longtime hack politician into a lovable blue-collar screw-up, prone not merely to gaffes but hijinks more reminiscent of Randy Quaid’s character in the “Vacation” movies, I kept pointing out how new and incongruous that image was, and how bizarre. (Imagine a similar campaign being suddenly launched at, say, Ted Cruz — sure a longtime hack pol with an oily smarmy demeanor, but right now nobody’s example of a bumbling redneck.) I kept bringing up how Biden was not actually a likable regular fella .. it was like shouting into the hurricane. Everyone was all “that scamp Joe! chuckle chuckle – washing his Trans Am in his wife-beater and Daisy Dukes!” or whatever.

And yet, and yet somehow even I — a long-time Biden-hater, a longtime grudge-bearer against the man, someone remembered his two-faced opportunism, hypocrisy, and willingness to do damage to what are now called “norms” — even I took his promises not to pardon Hunter seriously. Somehow.

Why? I was swayed. I was biased. My negative views of Biden (strong as they are due to abortion, the border, woke nonsense, etc etc.) had softened somewhat, due to his staunchly standing by NATO, Taiwan, Ukraine, and Israel, his hostility to the Kremlin, his upholding of US global leadership, his efforts to repair our Trump-damaged relationships with our allies, his upholding of sanity against Trumpy antivax kookery and climate denial, etc. and (despite his various gaffes and tall tales) his far greater dignity and reserve than that vulgar reckless impulsive buffoon Trump.

So I’ll have to try to remember this lesson. That I can’t scorn some Trumpy type for being gullible and letting his emotions suspend his common sense and rationality, if I let the same thing happen to me.

You can’t criticize the left if you also do what you’re criticizing the left for.

The Jan 6 rioters can rot in jail and be thankful they weren’t mowed down en masse. And yes yes yes yes yes yes yes I say the same thing about antifa and BLM too, but the Jan 6ers are WORSE, because antifa and BLM never humiliated our nation before the entire world by rioting at our CAPITOL, never tried to take Congress hostage, kill the Vice President, and overturn an election by thuggery.

A cracked skull at age 2 couldn’t have helped.

Interesting Canadian perspective on America.

I don’t think that tipping waitstaff as the bulk of their compensation is standard in Canada as it is in the U.S. I think tipping has become more common but that is more recent.

So the waitstaff in Canada is less reliant on tips for income, and therefore they have less incentive to go above and beyond in service.

Nothing screams “good parenting� more than having access to the best rehab resources in the world and opting to instead pimp out your addict child to foreign governments, right? Note that date carefully. 2014. Ukraine. Between that and the Chinese angle to the corruption (which does involve Joe, not just Hunter), if we end up losing a conflict with China, the Bidens having four wrong years might represent one self-inflicted wound too many.

This was the only logical conclusion to this sick, sad tale, especially with Trump and his entirely justified drive for revenge returning to the White House. I saw it coming. But that people have the gumption to say that this is proof that Biden is a wonderful father… trust me, if you’ve dealt with addicts in your own family, you’d have a very different take on this. If Biden really gave a damn about his child, if this was about what love actually is-sacrifice-he’d fall on his own sword to spare him, admitting he failed as a father. He’s in his 80s and his historical reputation is mud, so there’s no reason not to, and given how the MSM is reacting, I doubt this was something cooked up by the Democrat bosses against the will of a senile old man. No, no, no. Biden is looking out for himself. When has he not in the last half century, behind all the goofy ridiculousness?

I only wish there had been a prop bet on this, because the only thing that would have kept the elder Biden from pardoning Hunter would have been death of one or the other itself (and I’d still bet that Ol’ Scranton Joe had the pardon signed in his top desk drawer in the event of his own death before the end of his term).

OT — By way of Simplicius, the best analyst regarding Ukraine, the Financial Times reports that Ukraibe’s army is collapsing.
https://archive.ph/XBCMk

More Ukrainian soldiers have deserted in the first 10 months of this year than in the previous two years of the war, highlighting Kyiv’s struggle to replenish its frontline ranks as Russia captures more territory in eastern Ukraine.
…
In a standout case in late October, hundreds of infantry serving in Ukraine’s 123 Brigade abandoned their positions in the eastern town of Vuhledar. They returned to their homes in the Mykolayiv region where some staged a rare public protest, demanding more weapons and training.

The [Democratic] Governor of Virginia tried a blanket pardon of convicted felons in order to add criminals to the voter rolls. He was slapped down by an appellate court which ruled that he could only pardon individual persons and had to do so by name. (Which makes sense).

Let me be emphatic: this is a blanket pardon over the course of a decade for any and all crimes committed, not just petty tax and gun crap. You’d have to go back to the Watergate pardon to find something comparable. And say what you will about Watergate, it didn’t involve peddling influence for sale with foreign states that have played a heavy role in our decision-making. Quite possibly to our disadvantage. (If Israel pops up as a client too, that’ll be adding salt into the wound, given what amphibious operations are about.)

Honestly, when I think about the last four years, every decision combined leading to where we are now, I think of Judge Kaufman griddling the Rosenbergs during their sentencing, pointing out that not only the mass slaughter in Korea was on them, but the state of America in the world and American society: “… you undoubtedly have altered the course of history to the disadvantage of our country. No one can say that we do not live in a constant state of tension…� When one thinks of things like PRC agents taking advantage of our open border, let alone the wider scale of espionage, who cannot say the same about the ideologues who have governed? Who can say that in the last four years, in their quest to save democracy from the Orange Man, they’ve not damaged it?

I wonder deep down if there isn’t a degree of middle finger to this, as well as self-preservation, such as it is. You think Jill Biden might still be resentful about being ousted by the Democrats? Anyway, the good news is, America has woken up. Let’s keep her that way. A wheel can always turn, so can this.

“Oh what, you abused my son and daughter … aw shucks … forget about it, let’s just shake hands talks baseball stats�.

That’s a huge exaggeration. Steve would demand a complete and contrite apology before debating whether Curt Shilling should be in the hall of fame.

You sexually molested us, you convinced us to not have kids, you locked us out of home ownership, you destroyed the economy, you tried to start a nuclear war, if the rest of history was us torturing you to death, nobody would ask why.

But enough about you attending that Diddy party.

Is H.B. an exhibitionist? Is ex. still a mental illness, or has it been repealed in favour of the homosexuals? It’s nice to see a hetero benefitting for once from indulgence of the homos.
Who is the rightful owner of H.B’s computer? the shopkeeper in Wilmington? The F.B.I. has had custody for 4 years. Have their scientific wizards completed their investigation? Return the computer to its rightful owner and help him to make an arthouse movie of the contents.
In the 3 years that we believed that the contents of the computer were spurious, “It has all the earmarks of Russian disinformation.” did we believe that a Russian actor was impersonating H.B. on the computer?
Did H.B. give a speech at Tulane? advice for the kiddies on the good life? Did the university pay him? What does this tell us about the state of American higher education?

It has played into Trump’s hands, but Biden had to, and may have being forced to by slick Trump. If Kamala had won, Hunter would have been sent to a low with older harmless guys. But in a Trump administration, Hunter would have been in a medium security prison, which are to be some ways to be the most dangerous. Quite possibly, Trump made it known that if Biden did not pardon Hunter he’d be be sitting down to Christmas dinner in a penitentiary alongside hard rock twenty something convicts who had done home invasions, rapes and moronic murders and were never getting out. Hunter could not go there.

The “restorers” were being realistic about future uses of this 900 year old structure. Best case scenario is it will be the “Museum of the Heroes of November 13, 2015” in 50 years.

The U.S. Supreme Court hasn’t dealt with the pardon issue very much. Pardoning someone for acts or crimes that may be completely unknown to the President at the time the pardon is issued seems like it could be a problem. Like Nixon’s case, it probably won’t be challenged so it will never get before the court.

if Biden did not pardon Hunter he’d be be sitting down to Christmas dinner in a penitentiary alongside hard rock twenty something convicts who had done home invasions, rapes and moronic murders and were never getting out. Hunter could not go there.

Why not? That seems to be who he hung out with on the outside.

Achmed, you’re only problem is you’re too hip for the room. Stay true to your inner compass.👌ðŸ�»

The plan: Greenland admitted as 51st, 52nd , 53rd state with the name(s) changed to North Trumpland, South Trumpland, and Melania (sw section). Newfoundland – 54th state , Canada as 55th state renamed West Newfoundland. Puerto Rico will become Kopechne County in Massachusetts. I am not now nor have I ever been Lugash.

Leonard Peltier? He’s who you would pardon? Not someone who’s innocent, someone who admitted shooting at the FBI.

He did a bit more than shoot at the FBI. He calmly executed two wounded FBI agents. A just society would have hung him years ago, but he’s a hero to some because he’s an Injun.

A Delaware judge just single handedly blocked Elon Musk’s $50 billion payday even though the shareholders approved it.

https://instapundit.com/687929/

Thanks.

On a recent vacation to Europe, we noticed how poor the restaurant service was by the wait staff.

Yes, you “wait” for them, endlessly.

You are still expected to leave them at least a small tip…

It is very irksome to wait for half an hour to get a coffee refill or the bill, sometimes even longer.

No wonder McDonalds is now popular there.

Chosin Reservoir – December 3, 1950

I got mixed feelings on this. On one hand, I personally have an attitude of “I care about the food alone, I am here to sit down, eat, and get out� when eating out. I don’t care about smiles, decor, being entertained, what they are wearing, etc. If the person serving me wants to talk to me, they will initiate, and if not, their service job is hard enough without being bugged or expected to produce fake smiles.

But I don’t expect others to share my admittedly antisocial tendencies, and American culture for better or worse really doesn’t like silence or a lack of friendliness with strangers. And on the other hand, I’ve always liked how foreigners (or people from other parts of US) genuinely comment positively on this kind of thing. Especially given how people like my relatives-who do care about this kind of thing-often get negative press in the MSM that people who have never been to the US may take at face value. Thanks to social media discrediting our elites and everything “mainstream� in American media, this has lessened some, but you have to remember the type of person able to come to the US in the first place.

So… keep it up!

Thanks for the fantasy.

That would make sense if the Democrats played by those rules.

didn’t Jimmy Carter pardon all the Vietnam War draft dodgers???

hard rock twenty something convicts who had done home invasions, rapes and moronic murders

Thanks for the fantasy.

Not to mention the upfront evidence of not having a clue about the distinction between state and federal offenses. (Or did Hunter do his deeds within the District?)

The [Democratic] Governor of Virginia tried a blanket pardon of convicted felons in order to add criminals to the voter rolls.

Any Australians here? Is Martin Bryant required by law to vote? He did, after all, deprive over two dozen others of their right.

If so, that other Commonwealth has some ‘roos loose in the top paddock.

I don’t know if it was in true or mock Harris/Walz fashion, but my daughter just reminded her online classmates that not only was George Washington the first US President, he was also the first male US President and the first white US President. Quite the record setter!

(My kids watch the annoying if informative Mr Beat’s videos, so they are up on all sorts of presidential trivia. Such as who golfed, and who fished.)

Washington was also the first clean-shaven president:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_with_facial_hair

Unusually good Counter-Currents article on this.
https://counter-currents.com/2024/12/heres-why-pardoning-hunter-biden-is-a-good-thing/

Sure Jan

Come on, Steve.

Olympics for satellites. pic.twitter.com/LSRKestfn9

— Mandate of Heaven (@HongqiN701) December 3, 2024

Satellite Olympics!

“Rather than reconciliation, we need required retribution – required prosecution and punishment of all traitors and all abusers of power by the US Constitution.�

Right, fascism. Anyways, your time is up.

“But Sailer’s desire to grovel before the Establishment and give up any leverage in the process is the reason white people had every country taken from them.�

No, it has been your outright refusal to directly intervene in stopping the “enemy� from advancing. Make yourself useful. .

“He’s as anti-white as can be,�

Again, this term is devoid of substantial meaning. Put forth a clear definition and specific examples.

“but because he doesn’t snarl, most people think he’s harmless.�

Just as harmless as yourself, thank the Lord.

“AND…make a Federal memorial to Ashlii Babbit. “

You mean she got herself killed by refusing to follow the orders of law enforcement.

Like George Floyd. No, that’s not right, no one stuck the fentanyl up his rectum but himself.

I was not surprised. I would not be surprised to discover that HB told his dad if there was no pardon, he would spill all the dirt.

My experience in Europe is quite different. Real Paris waiters are professionals who manage a large number of tables and Do Not expect tips. (They are used to Americans thinking they are “expected to leave them at least a small tip.”) Hungarian and Romanian waiters are the same. I guess it all depends on where you go.

Here in America, we are used to “wait staff that are young failures who need our help.” Seriously, I’ve known them. They live on tips and rent on the cheap wherever they live. Sad.

Of course, my experience of Paris ended a decade ago after a few fun times. My wife and I agree now never to go back — because of the demographic changes. We could see those happening then, and we know they are worse now. Glad we experienced that particular place before it was completely ruined.

But there are many other places, cafes, sidewalks and pleasant waiters all over (Eastern) Europe that we know — where there are no non-Europeans, none at all, and there is no rush or bad service.

I don’t know where you were dining in Europe, of course. As far as waiting… one of the pleasures of cafes is to be able to “wait,” i.e. relax! Fucking relax! You want McDonald’s and plastic booth chairs and dumb, robot service, and greasy fries and burgers? Go there and shut up then.

I wanted to discuss this. But my first reply has been in Whimmage for 12.7 hours as I type this one.

As our Moron-in-Chief has reminded us many, many times. Beau’s memory is being upheld in this sordid affair by his lovely bride, who grieved for a few weeks then proceeded to sleep with his brother.

Joe’s brother Jim is a different story. I wouldn’t be surprised at a pardon for him, too.

The Supreme Court would have to use their powers of being mediums to interpret what the founders of the Constitution thought this meant.

Because the members of the Supreme Court have special powers, their interpretation might be quite different from anyone else’s, regardless of what might seem to be common sense.

The Constitution doesn’t specifically say that the president can give a blanket exemption from obeying the laws of the United States that is backdated for 10 years.

Supposing Hunter Biden is now found to have murdered a post office worker 5 years ago (which is a federal offense) with that gun that he illegally obtained, is he really now legally immune from prosecution, or would he simply be prosecuted by the state where it happened, but not as a federal offense?

Incidentally, correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Hunter Biden still obliged to pay back the Federal taxes he owes to the IRS?

I would have been OK with the pardon if Biden had not blatantly lied before the election and said that he would never pardon Hunter.

He was obviously joking.

Indeed! And he wasn’t even the first president, as you know. There were presidents of the Continental Congress during the Revolution, particularly one John Hancock.

John got married at an estate that still stands within walking distance of my previous home:

August 28, 1775, John Hancock Gets Married in Fairfield

(I know you find interesting the history where I live, and I know you have referred me to it here, and I just want YOU to know that I appreciate that — no matter how much of a “bad boy” I have become here — i.e. already was before you knew I was.)

Having a real take on Hunter’s pardon would require Steve to have noticed things like the J6 political prisoners, the Lawfare against Trump, the Ukraine war, or Biden’s bribery racket. But such concerns are outside the “Sailer Window” (which is really more like a couple pin pricks in a window blind. So all he’s got is basically “it would be nice if Trump was nice to Biden.”

Steve’s “Noticing” long ago crossed into self-parody. He’s got about four points he notices: (a) Blacks have low IQs and need preferences to compete; (b) Middle age M-F trannies are perverts; (c) Jews are high-IQ and awesome and do no wrong; and (d) The NYT is biased about race issues. Even where he notices something like anti-white “race communism” his only deep intellectual conclusion is basically “everything is good in moderation.”

I'm kind of a moderate race communist: I'm OK with a certain amount of affirmative action for Native Americans and Descendants of American Slaves, but not for new immigrants. When MIT cut its black share from 15% to 5% (but not 1%), that seemed like a not unreasonable compromise.

— Steve Sailer (@Steve_Sailer) November 19, 2024

Just like countless… uh… more melanated perps have done when they crossed the thin blue line?

OT: the prosecutor in the Daniel Penny case is a Jewish lesbian and, well, you can fill in the rest:

This is Daniel Penny's prosecutor Dafna Yoran (Who repeatedly referred to Penny as the "White man" during the trial) , as profiled in Go Magazine's "100 Women We Love." She brags about pioneering the "restorative justice" sentence for an NYC murderer. pic.twitter.com/NVeFxko2dS

— Jeremy Carl (@realJeremyCarl) December 3, 2024

This led to a predictable antisemitic response, which wasn’t something I had seen in awhile. Antisemites complaining about actual Jewish behavior. A few years ago antisemites decided they were going to make “the Jews killed Christ” and establishing a Catholic theocracy the center of their political project because someone told them they had to pretend to be Christian in order to appeal to obese Walmart people. (It did not work.)

But if you have been immunized, then the 5th Amendment is no longer available as a defense and you can be held in contempt and imprisoned if you refuse to give testimony.

Hunter could always answer “I do not recall�.

It worked for John Poindexter.

And as a recovering drug addict, Hunter could conceivably have issues with his memory during that period, which was years ago now.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-07-23-mn-5856-story.html

Mike Benz on The Biden’s Connections to Ukraine

Dec 3, 2024

JRE #2237 w/Mike Benz
YouTube: • Joe Rogan Experience #2237 – Mike Benz

Biden should issue more pardons.

Three I would suggest are Thomas Drake, Jeffrey Sterling, and Reality Winner.

Obama would probably be quite upset about the first two pardons; but Biden might like that.

Joe Biden is now protected from Hunter Biden ever ratting him out to a future prosecutor as “the big guy” who Hunter had to kick back half of every bribe to.

Hunter Biden got put on Burisma’s corporate Board for a big 1 million yearly salary he did exactly nothing to earn. Hunter had to give Joe Biden half of it. Joe and Jill Biden have refinanced their properties 35 times, and their Deleware home 20 times. These refinance events allowed Joe to launder money each time. Hunter was able to collect bribes while Joe was vice president while Hunter had a lobbying firm. Hunter had to kick half the “lobbying fees” up “to the Big Guy” when Obama Administration policies were altered or enacted in any way that benefitted Hunter’s lobbying clients. The fact that Hunter was Biden’s son, and the Biden’s refinance their house or one of their properties almost yearly should show anyone how much money they were having to launder. The Biden’s made many upgrades to their properties just so they had to go into debt so that they could keep refinancing their new kickback money, laundering it to keep the IRS appeased.

Biden really has been a sticky-fingered embarrassment. His dementia guarantees that he won’t remember all the moves if he ever had to testify under oath. Biden probably uses his brothers in the same way he used Hunter. If Trump did this, the media would make the debacle bigger than Watergate. They’d christen the scandal with a name like “Kickback-gate” or “Big Guy-gate” and the whole nine yards. Every Ukranian hooker on those tapes with Hunter would have been interviewed with a translator, and scenes from those videos would be put on the front pages of news magazines and newspapers with the caption, “Who was The Big Guy?” etc.

Foreign governments all over the world probably know about this, the laws broken, and see the United States posing as an enforcer of its precious “rules-based-order” as one huge unfunny sham on the rest of humanity.

Washington State seems to believe that they have the authority to limit the scope of the Second Amendment for whatever limited purpose they believe is right.

The choice by the President to issue this pardon has far reaching and very negative consequences to the judical system as a whole.

Biden’s pardon strategy involving his son Hunter was terrible because it gave cover to the lawfare Biden’s DOJ was deploying against President Trump.

New Cook County Prosecutor Vows Crackdown on 'Assault Weapons'https://t.co/FVEfKTistO

— Bearing Arms (@BearingArmsCom) December 3, 2024

I attended closing arguments in the Daniel Penny case today, to support Daniel and his legal team.

What I witnessed was a travesty the likes of which I didn’t think possible in the United States.

I saw despicable excuse for a DA stand up in front of a court and flagrantly lie… https://t.co/4m0S02uvvD

— Councilwoman Vickie Paladino (@VickieforNYC) December 3, 2024

Anyways, to broadly address this point at a very high level:
America's Sneeds, from Start to 1965

We'll start with a loose recap of Albion's Seeds and continue with the rest in the same format, also with a "Albion Descendant folkway" when applicable. https://t.co/AVaFyrodxP

— Monsieur le Baron (@Mssr_le_Baron) December 3, 2024

Interesting thread.

Reminds me of Thomas Sowell’s “Ethnic America.”

Yep. They get what they deserve, right, when they hit cops or they repeatedly disobey orders from cops. If Ashli was a darkie rather than a white woman in that same situation, you and others would not even bat an eyelash over her death.

You’re right about Mr. Sailer in tie regard. He doesn’t delve into the weeds of things like politics and religion because they are narrative disrupters.

“The J6 political prisoners, the Lawfare against Trump�

No, you mean the J6 rioters and the legitimate legal fights against Trump. Just ask Michael Cohen, his former lawyer.

It’s all about the cultural context. In the US, the waiter or waitress almost certainly needs the money more than you, and they are expected to be warm and friendly, so be a good patron in return. If you can’t afford to tip well by default, don’t eat out.

Overseas: yeah, sure, maybe that’s not the case with food. But the dude driving you? Same principle applies. In the developing world, on steroids. You never know what that might mean for them.

“What Do You Think of Biden’s Pardon for Hunter?”

Pardoning the Thanksgiving turkey a few days earlier was a nobler act, for a more deserving beneficiary.

Exactly!

Thanks.

I know this is going to sound strange, but it honestly feels insulting to Nixon (by all accounts a good father and impeccably dedicated to American interests as POTUS) to even put him in the same conversation as Biden here. This is what I’ve been trying to say for years: instead of getting Hunter HELP, with all the resources in America to do so, Biden tricked him out to foreign government to make bucks.

Ditto Trump. It actually speaks volumes that all his children are not only successful, but genuinely seem to love him intensely despite his messy relationships with their different mothers. Very hard to see him treating an unwanted grandchild the same way Joe and Jill did.

In the 2024 election, there was a remarkable correlation between a state's fertility rate and the share voting for Trump!

The partisan gap around families continues to intensify. This also helps explain why Trump nearly won New Jersey! 🧵 https://t.co/CCM4xBlRAL pic.twitter.com/Bm4lhLiBis

— More Births (@MoreBirths) November 6, 2024

Steve Sailer reported this back 20 years ago.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/baby-gap/

Hunter was charged, convicted, and ultimately pardoned for lying on his ATF form 4473 and income tax evasion – crimes that the DoJ would have happily prosecuted anyone of us for

And these were the lesser charges in a plea deal. More serious ones were statuted out. Why?

Because lying on a form and underpaying taxes don’t involve his father.

It’s never about Hunter. Це завжди про Джо.

Welcome back! Now watch this video.

America’s Sneeds, from Start to 1965

The only Sneed who comes to mind is Floyd, who was Tommy Chong’s brother-in-law. And, like Tommy, Canadian.

Re-posted from Peak Stupidity:

https://peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=3143

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The rise, fall, and re-rise of “pardons” and relation thereof to the de-Westernization of U.S. political life

The closest analogy to the 11-year blanket ‘pardon’ for “all crimes, known and unknown, charged and uncharged” would be the medieval system under which the emperor could declare, arbitrarily, whether a given person would be ensured life and liberty or deprived of life or liberty.

See the concept of the “imperial ban.” It was a form of what we now know as the U.S. system’s presidential pardon, except in the reverse: the governor’s or president’s pardon cancels a convicted man’s conviction. The “imperial ban” cancels an otherwise-“unconvicted” man’s natural right to life and liberty (in later-standard thinking; see wording of the Declaration of Independence). Placed under the “imperial ban,” a man was a public enemy who was to be killed.

This kind of arbitrary authority exercised by the established powers of Europe undermined their legitimacy. It was great fuel to all the endless swirl of movements back to the Reformation or even to the Renaissance. I’ve noticed non-Europeans are okay with arbitrary authority, but Westerners never are. We demand things make sense.

You’ll find lots of people praising the Chinese and others here towards the mid-21st century, but the Chinese permit their awful government exercising a cruel form of repression and running a system that would be stomach-churningly distasteful to any Western stomach. Corrupt-bargain “pardons” (and non-prosecutions) and illegitimate convictions: people are okay with them, though some might find it in them to complain here and there. The two-thousand-some political prisoners now crammed into a special built prison in Hong Kong (following the hostile crackdown by the PRC after the 2019 anti-China protests), a typical PRC-Chinese isn’t outraged; we, Westerners, are outraged on their behalf more than their nominal fellow-countrymen are.

Pardons are a harkening back to a system that is best left behind in medieval times, or with PRC-China and its satellites or imitators (if any). The tacit recognition of this was that the “pardon” power was so seldom used for so long, except for cases here and there for kind of symbolic purposes.

Who was the first president to start to really strain the “pardon” power? I think it may have been Bill Clinton with his series of pardons for campaign donors late in his second term. There is even a Wiki page “Bill Clinton pardon controversy.” The biggest of all was the oligarch Marc David Reich (1934-2013), alias “Marc Rich,” a man tied extensively to Israel who fled U.S. justice for many crimes. He was pardoned in full by Clinton on the morning of January 20, 2001, along with other lesser characters of similar type, nepotistic favors done for donors and the like.

By the time the first orange-haired president blumpfed his way onto the scene, the major controversy in 2001 over Bill Clinton’s pardon of the Israel billionaire “Marc Rich” ca. 15 years earlier, would’ve seemed child’s play. In other words, at some point in the 2000s or 2010s a line was crossed by which this kind of pardon was conceivable and no longer would elicit the kind of shock that Bill Clinton’s wave of corrupt D-insider pardons elicited in 2001. Trump had little compunction about nepotistic pardons: there were many Trump “Marc Rich’s” in 2017-2021. Biden’s pardon of his ne’er-do-well crack-addict son is a blatant case but not one of an abrupt break in precedent.

A de-Westernizing system with the power of “pardons” in place may be a dangerous thing. Yes, it is only part of the story alongside selective prosecution and other things including legalized-systematized anti-white and anti-male laws and preferences (“this employer gives special consideration to all women, people of color, certified LGBTQ community members including pre-op Transgender individuals”). But the “pardon” power if used in this way, including as used by Trump, can undermine the legitimacy of institutions in a way we, Western people, traditionally would have treated as taboo.

A system with lots of corrupt pardons or corrupt prosecutions ends up looking like so many backward Mid-East type countries, or the more backward of the ex-communist-bloc countries. That is clearly the way things have gone: the USA a wealthy society but no longer a firmly-rooted Western-normed society.

Other than the rioting, the J6 rioters never did, or even tried, to do any of that. They discomfitted Congress. BLM discomfitted citizens across the country. That’s worse in my book.

I don’t buy all that “temple of democracy” bulls**t. They are government functionaries. At best they are employees. At worst, they are sleezy, corrupt, whores. I certainly don’t worship them or the building they meet in.

It’s great for Trump, especially when it comes to keeping the impossible retards in the GOP in line. None of them are going to dare try and get in the way of his appointments now, damn however much it offends the incestuous tastes of Washington DC. But I don’t think The Donald needs additional encouragement to take revenge: if there’s one thing he’s always been good at, it is getting even. The lawfare seemed to suck his energy and age him a lot more than the stress of the Presidency or getting nearly assassinated did. I don’t buy that wasn’t intentional, lot of non-eunuch and short attention spanned men are the same, like me. I don’t think he does either.

What he needs are the right handlers to make sure it is effective, aimed at the right people, and creates lasting change beyond that.

Mr. Musk, are you reading this?

South Korea is a failed state.

1. Lee Seungman (1948-1960) – deposed
2. Yoon Bosong (1960-1962) – overthrown.
3. Park Chonhee (1962-1979) – assassinated.
4. Choi Gyu Ha (1979-1980) – ousted by military coup.
5. Jeong Doo-hwan (1981-1988) – sentenced to death after completing…

— RAMZPAUL (@ramzpaul) December 3, 2024

You are correct. I will add another qualifier to my statement, you can’t pardon someone if you don’t know who they are and you don’t know what they will be charged with.

So, why did President Trump with two weeks to do so not issue a blanket pardon or, to your point, individual pardons to those submitting an email request for anyone charged or chargeable solely for their non-violent presence?

This is why.

Been a minute since I dropped stuff on a rat. So I was one of the first defendants picked up early for January 6. From January to February of 2021, I was moved around the country by the US Marshals along with @MetalMikeCurzio, Jeff Sabol, Patrick Mccaughey, and Jake "the Snake"… pic.twitter.com/aIUZqBhmSN

— Tim Hale – Criminally Funny J6er (@LouisofMonmouth) December 1, 2024

As for what I expect him to do, I expect he will start issuing the pardons he promised.

“He doesn’t need political cover to end the abuse of the J6 protesters.”

Trump certainly doesn’t “need” political cover to pardon those dummies who protested on January 6 and who are currently languishing unfairly in jail. Nevertheless, political cover is still useful for Trump in this case. In fact, according to the Guardian, Trump has already used Hunter Biden’s pardon as political cover for his stated plans to pardon some, but not all, of the January 6 protesters.

Coincidentally, Biden is using Trump’s disgusting pardon of Trump’s father-in-law Charles Kushner as political cover for Biden pardoning his son Hunter. And Kushner’s pardon provides plenty of political cover, since, according to Wikipedia, Kushner “was convicted of illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering after hiring a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law, arranging to record a sexual encounter between the two, and sending the tape to his sister.” What guy.

If it wasn’t so sick, it would be funny that guys like Charles Kushner and Hunter Biden are integral parts of America’s first families.

trevor: “It may have been better for Joe to just remain silent and let Hunter do a little time.”

Hunter knew where all the bodies were buried and was holding all the cards. Unless his daddy gave him a pardon, he would have spilled the beans. He probably told him as much. “Dad, you will give me a blanket pardon NOW or I can guarantee you’ll be in the cell right next to mine!” LOL So much for family loyalty and “love”.

When whites are suffering from falling life expectancy, a falling standard of living and constant assaults from the anti-white agenda, Sailer still endorses programs specifically designed to harm whites!

Beyond that, the Usual Suspects pick up on the weakness of such a position and know they can demand much more. Having Sailer types negotiate for whites is a disaster.

HBD is a flop as a political program. It was the vanity project of wanna be technocrats who owed everything to white society and yet had no loyalty to whites. They were quite willing to throw whites under the bus.

In 1912, the President of Stanford published a book called Unseen Empire about dominance of Jewish bankers in European politics. Wilson was President of Princeton up until 1910 so he might have heard of the book.

…insisted passionately and even with tears that the indemnity named was utterly impossible; that France was wholly unable to pay it or any sum approaching it; and that if counting it had begun at the birth of Christ, it would not yet be finished. To this Bismarck replied, ‘But I have provided for that very difficulty, — I have brought from Berlin a little man who begins counting long before the birth of Christ’; and upon this he introduced the Jewish banker, Bleichroder, who found no difficulty in proving that France was so rich that the indemnity asked was really too small.

Pardons are a harkening back to a system that is best left behind in medieval times, o

Totally disagree. Pardons are part of the checks and balances system. They rpovide an opportunity for the Executive to cancel the actions of the Judiciary or Legislature. Along with the ban on statutory law that targets individuals, they are part of the Constitution’s attempt to prevent the political machine from trampling over individuals.

The fact that pardons may not have been used much in the past is immaterial. By their nature, they will be used less in good times and more in times of political conflict. If they are misused or overused, it’s a small price to pay for having a safety valve.

The bigger problem is that pardons will not be used equally by both sides, which the founders didn’t see. Trump should pardon all the J6 rioters because they are mistreated, over-prosecuted political prisoners, but he won’t. Sorry for them. But he should, and the Constitution should afford him the chance.

As a pro-Bondi man but also a Sailer reader, what is your view on Pam Bondi’s place in history thus far, in that it was she who arranged the prosecution of George Zimmerman in 2012-13? Over the death of “Trayvon.” It seems to me like bad, bad sign (mark of character or integrity or courage).

See: https://www.stevesailer.net/p/matt-gaetz-falls-on-his-sword/comment/78288370

[On] Pam Bondi’s role in the prosecution of George Zimmerman over the death of Trayvon Martin.

Bondi’s political rise had been steady and strong, all the way up to state attorney general of a major state. Her decision to “virtue signal” and back a life-in-prison punishment for George Zimmerman, is not a good sign that she would be a good U.S. attorney general. It’s also surprising how symbolically important the “Trayvon” case remains after all this time.

Conservative Treehouse in July 2012 slammed the rumor that Mitt Romney was considering Pam Bondi for vice-presidential nominee because of Bondi’s “recent revelations about Pam Bondi’s sheer lack of integrity, insufferable manipulation and self-serving political stupidity.” Pam Bondi was a big backer of Romney’s 2011-12 presidential bid.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2012/07/28/youve-got-to-be-kidding-me-bondi-for-a-vp-pick-heck-no/

Ann Coulter says that, all else equal, side ‘against’ women in politics. This to adjust for our natural biases towards sympathy with women.

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Also see: Peak Stupidity, Nov 24, 2024:

https://peakstupidity.com/index.php?post=3137

Bondi v. Zimmerman, echoing into the 2020s

It is interesting that in July 2013 a jury would find George Zimmerman “not guilty.”

(The trial lasted from June 24 to the dramatic July 13 “not guilty” verdict, temporarily giving hope that the system was not totally gone and justice still possible.)

Q. By what point over the following years would the same trial, involving the same types of jurors and everyone, have definitely turned out a “George Zimmerman is guilty” verdict?

A. IMO, maybe already by mid-2015, “trial plus two years.” But certainly “likely” by mid-2017?

The George Zimmerman trial is another data-point on how the 2010s tilted so strongly against reasonableness and normality. The fact that the trial happened at all — due to the maneuverings of Pam Bondi, some say — was a sign not all was “right” in 2012-13.

From wiki article “The Trial of George Zimmerman” on the jury selection process in mid-June 2013:

“In Florida, juries consist of six people; 12 jurors are required only for criminal trials involving capital cases, where the death penalty is applicable… All six of the jurors were female, while two of the alternate jurors were male and two female. Five of the jurors were white; one was of mixed black and Mestizo ancestry. All of the alternates were white, and of those, one of the male alternates was said to have been white Hispanic.”

They protected President Poopy-Pants because he was their guy. They don’t necessarily like him and they don’t care about him, other than in-so-far as he is their guy. So they covered up for his little influence-peddling racket. But then they decided he’s a little light in the cranium on account of his dementia, so they pushed Joey Diapers aside. But he’s still the Prez, and still has some power, so he pardons his degenerate bagman son, partly has an FU to the Democratic Party.

By the way, there are stories coming out now to the effect that the Party leaders didn’t want Kamala as the Presidential candidate, on account of her being a vapid air-head that most normal people can’t stand. Pelosi and Obama reportedly wanted a crash “primary” to select a better candidate (Obama’s choice was Mark Kelly). But upon being un-nominated, Joe instantly endorsed Harris, so as to saddle them with that same albatross he had to bear for four years.

It’s actually all pretty funny.

So Trump made two lousy choices in a row for AG – first Gaetz, then Bondi.

Why am I not surprised that a guy who seems to like pro-wrestling (Trump) turns out to be a poor decision maker when it comes to hiring personnel?

What’s going on here?

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— toddstarnes (@toddstarnes) December 4, 2024

Just about to say same thing. If it’s okay to pardon Hunter, then do a blanket pardon of ALL the Jan 6 protestors, period, and also have the US Government give each of them say, about 1 million dollars (tax free) for their time spent in jail.

AND…make a Federal memorial to Ashlii Babbit. Gone but not forgotten, murdered for a cause she believed in (freedom for US voters who voted for Trump).

As we know, Jan. 6 was not an “insurrection”!

Protesters broke into a Federal building, destroying nothing more than doors & windows (by seemingly credible accounts, they were assisted by Federal provocateurs).

Once inside, they didn’t vandalize walls, paintings, or furniture. They even walked around the velvet ropes used for lines of tourists. No guns, no murder, no clubs, no smashing, no looting, no arson, no destruction of historical monuments.

“Insurrection” is precisely what BLM & Antifa openly proclaimed — & pursued — NATIONWIDE, for MONTHS (not hours) — and with the full encouragement of the (((mainstream media))).

How many people realize the only gun violence on Jan. 6 was the unpunished Black cop who shot the unarmed White woman to death!

Never mind all that, let’s take a knee to a violent career criminal who OD’d — our beloved George Floyd.

I see that you’ve already conceded immediately (subject to Whim) upthread that a blanket pardon was possible, but qualified that with “and you don’t know what they will be charged with.� I’ve already suggested “charged or chargeable solely for their non-violent presence,� which could have spared hundreds of people years of suffering the Establishment’s abuse, or at least given them some comfort that Trump was on their side.

He wasn’t, and he isn’t.

As for what I expect him to do, I expect he will start issuing the pardons he promised.

If it benefits Trump, no doubt. In the meantime, please provide a recording or verbatim transcript of what “he promised.�

You’re right about Mr. Sailer in tie regard. He doesn’t delve into the weeds of things like politics and religion because they are narrative disrupters.

“The J6 political prisoners, the Lawfare against Trump�

No, you mean the J6 rioters and the legitimate legal fights against Trump. Just ask Michael Cohen, his former lawyer.

You, Corvinus, repeatedly defend Steve.

Steve may not want a hasbara troll as his cheerleader, but he’s stuck with you.

Being so wrong on so many things, have you considered that you’re just a fucking idiot?

David Cole, is that you?

Cool story, bro.

So are you the bearded lady, the dwarf bodybuilder, or one of the Siamese twins?

I too have doubts about Bondi, but unfortunately it’s difficult to figure out the true extent of her culpability in the Zimmerman persecution, since it’s impossible to trust everything that Sundance at the Treehouse says, about her or really about anyone. He is the living embodiment of the crazy guy in the meme with the wall board of lines and strings; he’s made shadowy, verbose allegations against DeSantis, Vance, Musk, and numerous others, which seem impressive at first until you realize they’re nearly all smoke and practically no fire. He combines paranoia about practically everyone else with a weird quasi-religious devotion to Trump, and likes to insinuate that sinister people in Trump’s inner circle are preventing him, Sundance, from providing the advice that could really help Trump.

“you mean the J6 rioters”

You mean like the Summer of George?

Coincidentally, Biden is using Trump’s disgusting pardon of Trump’s father-in-law Charles Kushner as political cover for Biden pardoning his son Hunter. And Kushner’s pardon provides plenty of political cover, since, according to Wikipedia, Kushner “was convicted of illegal campaign contributions, tax evasion, and witness tampering after hiring a prostitute to seduce his brother-in-law, arranging to record a sexual encounter between the two, and sending the tape to his sister.� What guy.

Kushner’s pardon is not really similar to Hunter’s. Kushner served his time in prison and his pardon was largely symbolic. Hunter has not and will not pay any price for his criminal activity.

How many people realize the only gun violence on Jan. 6 was the unpunished Black cop who shot the unarmed White woman to death!

Not only that, he shot her without knowing what was behind her. There were other people behind her. There were actually other cops almost right behind her.

Kushner’s pardon is not really similar to Hunter’s. Kushner served his time in prison and his pardon was largely symbolic. Hunter has not and will not pay any price for his criminal activity.

That’s true.

Of course, Trump didn’t have to name Kushner to be ambassador to France.

When I was a regular visitor to the Tampa Bay area visiting my parents or going to spring training games, waitstaff would listen for the new customers to speak, hoping to hear the NY or Boston accents. Snow Mexicans were subject to less-than-sterling service.

Yes, that’s

standing by NATO, Taiwan, Ukraine, and Israel, his hostility to the Kremlin, his upholding of US global leadership, his efforts to repair our Trump-damaged relationships with our allies, his upholding of sanity against Trumpy antivax kookery and climate denial, etc.

quite a mouthful.

Carney lately comes across as a conservative cousin of Corvinus.

WSJ versus NYT.

In the spirit of these recent events, may I suggest Dear Old Joe on his last day holds a speech inspired by the following one.

It’s not a failed state. Koreans are just Idealists and Enthusiasts, whatever they end up applying themselves to. 😛

Seriously, though: whereas that beacon of good governance, the DPRK, has only had three rulers, and Vietnam (a country where the Communists won the entire place-ignore what your Walz style teachers said, kiddies, this was A Bad Thing) has taken a leaf from the Russians and had its secret police chief become the most powerful man in the country. There are worse problems to have: hell, I’d love to see some DC creatures go to jail instead of getting consulting gigs. Little much to hope for, but Trump removing some clearances over 2020 is a great opening salvo. The bureaucrats have to know that when you jump into the fire, you don’t get to claim you are above politics and thus have immunity from being burned. They’ve been removed from consequences for far too long: we have Beamter immunity, but without Prussian levels of competence and honesty. Not a good mix.

The Rhee years apart, South Korea was a military dictatorship from 1961 until 1988 and some of the earlier post-1988 men (Kim Dae-Jung) had an ugly history with the generals. I would imagine lot of the lawfare reflected that. The big thing to my mind is that the legacy of the dictatorship years doesn’t permanently paralyze military-civilian relations like in Taiwan, another country facing the permanent (albeit more insidious-nobody has worried about the DPRK taking over for a long time) legacy of war, although part of that also reflects a gap between the islander and mainlander relationship to the KMT that doesn’t truly have an analogue in the ROK.

What does economic inequality have to do with violence in a society where poor people are more likely to be obese? The answer to that turns out to be simple: marriage rates.

I think we can say that if war is the health of the state, then marriage is the health of society.

Good point and excellent summation Miss Mercy.

A healthy society–its institutions, ideology and policies–channels young men and women into productive labor and healthy marriages and families. Even if there is a whole lot of parasitic looting–ex. “the nobility”–it is fundamentally “normie” centric and ergo reproduces itself.

We have a society chock full of useless and destructive, essentially parasitic activity, with an ideology that puts all the minority freaks and geeks front and center and policies that work against normie marriage and family. Generational collapse is by definition slow, but given that sort of timeline America–most of the West–is in freefall.

> Pam Bondi was a big backer of Romney’s 2011-12 presidential bid.

Just a reminder that Romney’s flunky lost a seat in the biggest red swing state for Trump.

There is no excuse for paying attention to anything these losers in the GOP have to say. None.

I said I was wrong on this issue (Biden and the pardon). That’s one thing, not many things. True, I’ve been wrong about other things over the course of my life. Who hasn’t?

You? Are you a deity? Are you, by chance, Pope Francis? To my knowledge His Holiness has not yet made a pronouncement in the specific way (“ex cathedra“) that Catholics are bound to regard as infallible. My faith is weak at best these days anyway.

Even Tom Brady lost two Super Bowls; Robert E. Lee ordered Pickett’s Charge; etc. Didn’t make them fucking idiots.

I’m not a genius on their level, but I’m reasonably confident I’m highly intelligent and with overall sound judgement.

True, if I were a fucking idiot overall, I’d most likely lack the ability to realize that fact. But then, the same holds for you. And this site is clearly stuffed with ignoramuses, morons, crackpots, and vicious liars.

Screw the Democrats. Whining about whether they play by the rules is one of these stupid memes that keeps circulating on the right, and it gets us nowhere. Whether or not they play by the rules, it makes no sense wasting time and political capital on vendettas. There is more important work to be done.

You are right, but I would still prefer to have the cost of service included in the menu price, because otherwise it becomes a kind of contest in which the wait person tries to get you to order the most expensive items on the menu, constantly demonstrates groveling behavior, and sulks if you tip less than they are expecting.

For that reason I would often prefer to eat in self-service buffets when in the United States.

If you start handing out tips to people because in your opinion they probably need the money more than you do, then there is no end to it. Perhaps you should give tips to flight attendants, bank tellers, and supermarket checkout staff.

However, the worst aspect of the tipping culture in the USA, in my opinion, is that the amount of the tip is related to the price of the menu item, so the tips are clearly higher in more expensive restaurants than in cheap diners without there being any more work involved.

Since people have to eat, especially when away from home, there really ought to be a standard tip of, say, $3 for serving a lunch (or a $5 or $10 or whatever), so did everybody knows where they stand. But better still, the price of service is just included in the menu price.

If States legislated this and all restaurants had to make the change on the same day, there would be no competitive advantage to anybody.

Mostly true, but not always. Heavy criticism of President Lincoln and his policies would have landed one in the federal gulag for at least the duration of the war.

We haven’t heard yet how Kamala’s people got the state delegations’ endorsements so quickly, and how much Biden was a factor. When did they start calling and with what carrots and sticks? There were enough people involved and the result so bad, someone is bound to spill his guts someday.

Whether this is just another case of cherry-picking facts to claim Russian “victory” is just around the corner (common for Putin fanboys) here or not, one relevant fact should be noted.

From what I have read “enlistment” or draft into the Ukrainian Army has no set time limits.

Once in, you are in for “the duration” like the US in WWII.

Also, home leave is limited and rare other than for injury. One suspects bribes help.

So, when soldiers on the front have no set prospect of ever going home, they are likely to get itchy feet to see friends and family, loved ones. etc.

It appears that Zelensky is quietly pursuing a policy of keeping “expendable” men at the front as long as possible. The US, et. al. stays quiet about this.

Of course, Russian troops are even worse off. Little medical care and human wave tactics.

Putin won’t run out of prisoners to send or naive Asiatics or Korean mercs soon either.

A terrible and sad waste.

You wouldn’t be so airily indifferent about the Capitol being attacked if it had been BLM and antifa. You’d be enraged at how the enemies of our civilization hate the classic Greek and Roman architecture and the magnificent “apotheosis of Washington” painting on the inside of the dome etc – things which low-IQ Third Worlders in their mud huts could never replicate. And you’d be right to be.

Just have the honesty to admit that you’re making excuses for the J6ers that you wouldn’t make for antifa and BLM, because you see the J6ers as part of “us” and your team.

And you’re wrong. “Hang Mike Pence” signs, the gallows, the constant violent rhetoric which was obviously not merely symbolic given the brutal attacks on the police and guards they carried out, etc.

WTF do you fantasize they would have done had not the Senate and Pence escaped their clutches? Asked nicely? Let anyone leave who wanted to? Physically allowed the vote to certify?

No. They were there to physically seize custody of, and impose their will on, elected officials, and some (“Hang Mike Pence”) were there to kill.

If a bunch of grinning BLM blacks had ended up aimlessly wondering around, looting things, smashing other things, etc., BECAUSE THEIR INTENDED VICTIMS HAD ESCAPED, you wouldn’t be all “but they were peaceful!”

Our most recent experience with slow waiting was at the Ritz Carlton, right on Lake Geneva (Lac Lemond) in Geneva. Hotel restaurant was very expensive and service very slow.

Much better at the Italian restaurant (Cassanova) next door.

I have traveled in Europe (and elsewhere) many years and the American style of waiters/waitresses, relying on tips, is much superior. Sometimes also found in S. America.

I have eaten in a well known Parisian restaurant and even witnessed a nicely dressed Parisian couple with a well mannered young child also wait nearly an hour to get their check. And the place wasn’t busy.

Seeing locals being treated (poorly) there, just like Yankees, did give me some grim satisfaction.

Slow service is a well-known complaint especially in Paris but also in much of Europe. Even when things are not busy.

While you complain about “bottom of the barrel” US tipped workers, who do you think fills those hourly wage, minimum wage EU restaurant staffs? They probably get paid like dishwashers and absent tips, have little incentive to provide prompt efficient service.

Another often unnoticed factor: Europeans live in tiny apartments and in their need to get out of those, they like to hang around for hours in coffee shops, cafes and even restaurants. So fast service isn’t expected. Hangouts away from kids and spouses aren’t about food or even much drink.

It is reported that Hunter B did pay the back taxes, interest and penalties.

No doubt helped by “friends” buying his “art”.

You are right, but I would still prefer to have the cost of service included in the menu price, because otherwise it becomes a kind of contest in which the wait person tries to get you to order the most expensive items on the menu, constantly demonstrates groveling behavior, and sulks if you tip less than they are expecting.
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You’ve never been here, have you?

The barker, I think.

Just some dancing Israelis. Move along now, nothing to see here folks.

Be fair. Firearms training and safety were not part of Lieutenant Michael Byrd’s DEI curriculum.

I’ve already suggested “charged or chargeable solely for their non-violent presence,� which could have spared hundreds of people years of suffering the Establishment’s abuse,

Could have? Or could not have. President Carter issued his blanket pardon at the beginning of his presidential term. But without the names, he couldn’t mail pardons to everyone who qualified. The government still offers the forms for people to download and submit to receive their pardon from Carter to this day. Trump would have been in the same situation, except with only two weeks left in his term, he would have to leave it to Biden people to accept the forms and issue those pardons. So no, I am not conceding a blanket pardon was possible with Trump in this case.

And according to Trump, there will most likely not be blanket pardons because Trump isn’t going to pardon the FBI informants who were fomenting the violence that day. He is on the side of his supporters, he is not on the side of his enemies.

In the meantime, please provide a recording or verbatim transcript of what “he promised.�

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/11/nx-s1-5181960/can-trump-pardon-as-promised-people-convicted-in-connection-with-the-jan-6-attack

Other than the rioting, the J6 rioters never did, or even tried, to do any of that. They discomfitted Congress. BLM discomfitted citizens across the country. That’s worse in my book.

Agree.

The Parasite Party had its street thugs out in force all summer of 2020 after the George Floyd’s convenient OD, blocking streets, holding tens of thousands hostage in their cars, harassing normies, assaulting some unlucky ones, burning out some businesses, sacking public buildings … basically seeking to disrupt the normal life of millions of Americans.

The J6 crowd held yet another Capitol protest–there have been dozens over various things during my life–against Biden’s crappy election victory. Then the capitol police–one someone’s orders presumably? who was it?–let them in. (For create video for narrative creation, for the state media?) Some broke some windows–and did some damage, broke windows–most walked around … then they went home. BFD.

Apparently disrupting the lives and livelihoods of millions of normal Americans is no biggie, but congresscritters deciding having cower for a few hours was the greatest “threat to democracy” in the history of our republic.

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BTW if Congress actually thought “hey this is serious” it could have–should have–taken steps–not hard to do–to make sure American elections are absolutely above reproach and essentially no one would think an election was fraudulent again. Instead the Parasite Party immediately did the opposite and tried to institutionalize unverifiable, ballot harvesting friendly voting procedures nationwide making our elections forever suspect and without any legitimacy.

I would tell Americans in Finland that we had once a Finnish-American president– Herbert Hyvä. Years later, I came across the story of the real “first” president, who was indeed partly of Finnish descent.

Remembering John Hanson, First President of the Original United States Government

The John Hanson Story

“What’s probably most interesting is that Hanson is also responsible for establishing Thanksgiving Day as the fourth Thursday in November.”

FDR changed that– a late case of New Netherland sticking it to New Sweden.

(…no matter how much of a “bad boyâ€� I have become here — i.e. already was before you knew I was.)

Nutmeggers were ahead of Mass (Bay) in at least one area:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alse_Young

“You, Corvinus, repeatedly defend Steve.�

And this is why you are a merchant of disinformation.

“Steve may not want a hasbara troll as his cheerleader, but he’s stuck with you.�

How original of you to say.

So says the bitter old scold.

To be a nit picker, isn’t it “Attorneys General�?

As we know, Jan. 6 was an insurrection. Protesters broke into a Federal building, on their own behalf, destroying federal property, beating up Capitol police, and refusing to honor the requests of law enforcement to vacate the premises. Unfortunately, a white woman chose to ignore repeated warnings to leave and chose to enter a restricted area where police had drawn their weapons. She put herself in harm’s way. Had she been black, you would be telling us she deserved it.

“Once inside, they didn’t vandalize walls, paintings, or furniture. They even walked around the velvet ropes used for lines of tourists.�

You are a disinformation merchant.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/06/rioters-leave-trail-of-damage-in-us-capitol-building/

Never mind all that, let’s take a knee to a violent career criminal who OD’d — our beloved George Floyd.

looks like it https://t.co/7rtg4RkhYb

— 0liver✨⛈ï¸�🌴ðŸ�ŠðŸ¦ˆ (@0Iiver_Sister) December 2, 2024

Very interesting, thanks. I’d heard of David Starr Jordan but not that book.

Hunter was charged, convicted, and ultimately pardoned for lying on his ATF form 4473 and income tax evasion – crimes that the DoJ would have happily prosecuted anyone of us for

Really? Show me a felony prosecution of a non-felon for merely checking the wrong box on an ATF form, no illicit gun dealing, nobody getting mugged, or shot, etc..

He paid his taxes late, then paid interest and penalties. Many people have done the same thing without getting hit with a felony.

So f**k Hunter, and f**k you too.

Wow! Little Miss Snowflake really got triggered!

The best thing about it is how Biden and Trump are saying exactly the same thing about the out-of-control, politically motivated court system.

The cops were ordered to open the doors to let them in and they did so. It was not an insurrection; none of them were armed.

The USG took active steps to conceal the extent of FBI involvement in precipitating J6. Funny that they claim not to be able to identify the pipe bomber, for instance.

J6 was a staged event.

Concerning Hunter Biden’s convictions, they were a ruse. The Grayzone’s Max Blumenthal provides the following succinct description of the real story:

“Hunter Biden’s conviction was bogus, and he committed the infraction while in the throes of addiction. But he only got a gun rap to avoid prosecuting him for his sordid role in Project Ukraine, which would have also implicated his father in a truly criminal foreign influence op.”

Promising:

“I am inclined to pardon many of them. I can’t say for every single one because a couple of them, probably, they got out of control,” Trump said at a May 11, 2023 CNN Town Hall. Later on he added “I would say it will be a large portion of them and it would be early on.”

Thanks.

“Of course, Russian troops are even worse off. Little medical care and human wave tactics.”

That may be true in many respects. But rumor has it that the Russians rotate their front line troops while the Ukrainians just send you to the front and then send a replacement when you are killed. And that the Russians are in for a fixed term and can leave the army when their time is up. So the Russian troops at least have something to hope for.

“it makes no sense wasting time and political capital on vendettas. There is more important work to be done.”

You don’t seem to understand how any of this works. You say,

“There is more important work to be done.”

True, there is. Very important work. And it CANNOT GET DONE, it cannot even *begin* to get started getting done, unless and until there are rows upon rows upon rows of Democrat heads on spikes, and Dems are tarred and feathered, and are run howling through the streets.

Ponder for a while, why that is so.

Concerning Hunter Biden’s convictions, they were a ruse. The Grayzone’s Max Blumenthal provides the following succinct description of the real story:

“Hunter Biden’s conviction was bogus, and he committed the infraction while in the throes of addiction. But he only got a gun rap to avoid prosecuting him for his sordid role in Project Ukraine, which would have also implicated his father in a truly criminal foreign influence op.�

That’s one of the dumbest theories I’ve seen in a long time, and I’ve seen you guys post a lot of dumb theories on this site.

Charging someone with one crime doesn’t get them off the hook on a completely different alleged crime. That’s not how the law works.

It wouldn’t even be a distraction. Who has it distracted? The people who were calling the Biden family corrupt before Hunter was charged with anything are still calling them corrupt.

Do you think that Donald Trump was charged with crimes in New York to distract from unrelated crimes he is alleged to have committed in Florida? I doubt it.

And you’re wrong. “Hang Mike Pence� signs, the gallows, the constant violent rhetoric which was obviously not merely symbolic given the brutal attacks on the police and guards they carried out, etc.

And how come we haven’t heard about the trial of the “Hang Mike Pence” guys and whoever it was who built the gallows? Do you know who built the gallows? Have you heard their names? Why have they seemingly been allowed to fade into obscurity while Grandmas who took an unauthorized day-trip inside the Capitol are being thrown in jail?

I’m not making excuses for anybody on J6. They rioted. Maybe they figured, after months on end of rioting and civil disorder the previous summer: Hey! White people can riot too.

But I don’t invest the Capitol with this mystical significance that all those “Our Democracy” stooges on MSNBC do. It’s silly. So is your outrage.

Really? Show me a felony prosecution of a non-felon for merely checking the wrong box on an ATF form, no illicit gun dealing, nobody getting mugged, or shot, etc..

They’ll happily add that charge to whatever smorgasbord of charges their throwing at you so they can plea you down to something. The Feds never lose. Their conviction rate is about the same as Lavrenti Beria’s.

He paid his taxes late, then paid interest and penalties. Many people have done the same thing without getting hit with a felony.

And many people do get hit with felony convictions. Hunter Biden was a bag-man for an influence-peddling ring. He should be charged with a bunch of other felonies.

Wow! Little Miss Snowflake really got triggered!

No, I just think you’re full of s**t.

Next time, send Raul. Because “Not Raul” is an a**hole.

Oh, and by the way, f**k you again.

Whether this is just another case of cherry-picking facts to claim Russian “victory� is just around the corner (common for Putin fanboys) here or not, one relevant fact should be noted.

There is that phrase again: “Putin fanboys”. Do you and “HA” exchange notes?

I don’t think that the US Government should make war on sharks: launching a World-wide campaign to completely eliminate that species of predator. Does that make me a “shark fanboy”?

Would you be willing to concede that there is also such a thing as “Zelensky fanboys”?

https://theonion.com/william-safire-orders-two-whoppers-junior-1819565735/

Corvinus the hasbara troll:

Your link to the Jew York Post article, even if its claims were true, show very laughingly little damage for the so-called Jan. 6 “insurrection.”

We’re supposed to be horrified that a couple photos show a MAGA protester climbing over seats in the Congressional chambers.

Those are the same seats from which “our” Congress people jump, to give your goddamned war criminal Netanyahu dozens of standing ovations each time he disgraces the place while extorting weapons & war for your goddamned Terrorist Theocracy of Israel.

How I regret ever having supported your genocidal enterprise.

Federal crimes are usually punished more severely than State offenses, but less commonly.

Thus killing a post office worker or federal employee is regarded as an aggravated form of murder.

Trespassing in buildings on Capitol Hill is regarded as a more severe offense then trespassing on the farm land of a farmer who cultivates the land on the border with Mexico or Canada.

Trying to stage a coup d’etat is regarded as a more severe offense than looting a shop that sells sneakers.

J6 convicts should be allowed to leave prison if they agree to go and fight as volunteers in Ukraine or Haiti.

“Hunter Biden’s conviction was bogus, and he committed the infraction while in the throes of addiction. But he only got a gun rap to avoid prosecuting him for his sordid role in Project Ukraine, which would have also implicated his father in a truly criminal foreign influence op.�

I don’t see how you can legally be a cocaine addict in the United States since it involves making purchases of and using an illegal substance.

You cannot accidentally become a cocaine drug addict.

Cocaine growing and smuggling operations by organized crime are a threat to stable government in Mexico and other nations, and have caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, mostly killed by illegally smuggled guns made in the United States.

By pardoning Hunter Biden, Joe Biden has shown his complicity with the international drug trade and that he has contempt for the US legal system.

However, at least Hunter Biden has been disbarred from practicing law in Washington DC. I wonder if he will be reinstated now that the offenses that caused his disbarment have been annulled.

Joe Biden assured us that he couldn’t be more proud of his son Hunter.

The sole reason Joe cited for all that pride — Hunter (allegedly) stopped being a drug addict.

You’ve never been here, have you?

I don’t know where your here is.

I entered the United States for the first time in 1980, and I was there the most recently in late June 2024.

I have been to Florida, Hawaii, California, New York, Connecticut, Mass., North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Virginia, Washington DC, Maryland, Pennsylvania, New Mexico, New Jersey, and Puerto Rico.

It might be different wherever you live. Probably something like Chevy Chase in idyllic New England.

You just don’t understand the dynamics between diners and wait staff.

Yes, I remember Biden during the Judge Bork hearings years ago. Bork tried to explain the Constitution to Joe, but everything Bork said was clearly sailing right over Joe’s head. The man has always been a corrupt moron; nowadays he’s a senile corrupt moron. And don’t imagine for a minute that his policies received any input from his own feeble brain. His handlers told him what to say and do, and he did it.

Agreed, Buzz. I’m very happy to have seen Paris forty years ago. I don’t have the heart to go back now. A friend was just over to see his son win a gold medal in the olympics and he expressed his opinion of modern Paris rather forcefully.
Sadly, I’m still subjected to Dublin rather regularly, and it casts a pall on every trip to Ireland. It’s horrifying.
But, to close cheerfully, Merry Christmas to you and your lovely wife. Good luck and God bless in the New Year!

“It wouldn’t even be a distraction. Who has it distracted?”

It allows the MSM to pretend that the law is being applied fairly and equally while giving cover to ignore the far more serious crimes–the blatant selling of access to Joe Biden. Corruption that very well may have led to the Ukraine debacle.

I would not concede their gross exaggeration. The J6 protests were not a “riot.” If you have seen a real riot, you would know the difference. LA 1992. Baltimore 1968. Seattle and Portland 2020. Those were riots.

Agree that the outrage about J6 from the MSM is silly and contrived, worthy of Corvinus. I also notice that the unctuous bastard has said nothing about his opinion on Biden pardoning his son in such an expansive and self-serving manner. Guess he’s too busy feeling the vapors from his Trump Derangement Syndrome. Not sure I want to put Carney into that category, but I agree that his view of J6 is ridiculous. I for one wish they really had rioted and burned down the Capitol that day.

I would also point out that the MSM double standard in J6 spin extended to the totally different and sympathetic coverage they gave to protestors who disrupted Senate hearings on Cavanaugh’s SCOTUS nomination a few years back.

Just to be accurate, I have seen Corvinus criticize Israel on this board with some regularity. Although I disagree with him most of the time, I do not think you can fairly or accurately accuse him of being a Hasbara troll.

Looks like Hunter and Joe will have to get gay married to be safe.

You just don’t understand the dynamics between diners and wait staff.
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You’ve offered a statement which is indicative of someone who has never sat down for a meal in an American restaurant. Or it’s indicative of someone on the autism spectrum. You’re not in a position to tell anyone they do not understand something.

Charging someone with one crime doesn’t get them off the hook on a completely different alleged crime. That’s not how the law works.

It’s how politics works. And at the federal level certainly, “The Law” works the way that politics directs. Republicans were making a big stink about Hunter and his shady business dealings, which included his father. Biden’s DoJ had to do something to appear impartial, even though they aren’t. So they got him on some small beefs. Probably knowing that Daddy would pardon him anyway. Certainly, the Big Guy knew that he was going to pardon Hunter.

Thus killing a post office worker or federal employee is regarded as an aggravated form of murder.

It shouldn’t be. Federal workers deserve no more protections than anyone else.

Trespassing in buildings on Capitol Hill is regarded as a more severe offense then trespassing on the farm land of a farmer who cultivates the land on the border with Mexico or Canada.

Again, it shouldn’t be so. Not in a free country of free people.

Trying to stage a coup d’etat is regarded as a more severe offense than looting a shop that sells sneakers.

Pipe-fitters, mechanics, and insurance salesmen don’t stage coups d’etat, you ridiculous clown.

J6 convicts should be allowed to leave prison if they agree to go and fight as volunteers in Ukraine or Haiti.

You’re not only an idiot, you’re a louse.

The Feds can try you for crimes you have already pled guilty to and been sentenced for in State court. He had a gun charge related to drugs as well as tax evasion. A Federal indictment could see him in the same high prolife jail unit as Bankrun Fraud and Diddy, and with total time over twenty years Hunter would as a matter of course be starting in a max security pen.

Anyone who has been paying attention knows Trump is a vengeful man, do not forget that this nightmare for the Dems started when Trump was mocked at that dinner by Pres Obama and a comedian; running was high risk for him but he did it anyway. He is forgiving when it comes to Hillary and Kamala because they are women and easy to beat but Biden defeated him. And his minions tried to take away the love of Trump’s life: his money. As pres Trump’s reach would be long and he would not release his grip on Hunter.