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Luigi should face the life reward, not the death penalty.
What are they even saying he did wrong?
Since when has anyone in New York faced the death penalty? Who was the last person? Some sorry Irish drunk from “Gangs of New York”?
It’s federal charges they’re saying they’ll bring, and that will be the death penalty, but aside from the unconstitutionality of all this “federal charge” gibberish, if the feds are going to do this, why don’t they do it to criminal niggers who kill innocent people instead of Italian folk heroes?
AP:
The man accused of killing UnitedHealthcare’s CEO was whisked back to New York by plane and helicopter Thursday to face new federal charges of stalking and murder, which could bring the death penalty if he’s convicted.
Luigi Mangione was held without bail following a Manhattan federal court appearance, capping a whirlwind day that began in Pennsylvania, where he was arrested last week in the Dec. 4 attack on Brian Thompson.
The 26-year-old Ivy League graduate had been expected to be arraigned Thursday on a state murder indictment in a killing that at once rattled the business community and galvanized some health insurance critics, but the federal charges preempted that appearance. The cases will now proceed on parallel tracks, prosecutors said, with the state charges expected to go to trial first.
Who thinks this is okay? Totally aside from Luigi and his case, how are there two murder charges for the same murder?
Some of the unconstitutional acts this sickening kike government engages in are convoluted and confusing, but this is not one such case. The fact you can’t be tried twice for the same crime is explicitly enumerated in the Fifth Amendment.
No room for confusion there. This is “gun control” tier.
And again, if the feds can just say “we’re also charging you with murder as well!”, why don’t they do it every time?
Mangione, shackled at the ankles and wearing dress clothes, said little during the 15-minute proceeding as he sat between his lawyers in a packed federal courtroom.
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At a hearing there Thursday morning, Mangione agreed to be returned to New York and was immediately turned over to at least a dozen New York Police Department officers who took him to an airport and a plane bound for Long Island.
He then was flown to a Manhattan heliport, where he was walked slowly up a pier by a throng of officers with assault rifles — a contingent that included New York City Mayor Eric Adams and Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch.
The federal complaint filed Thursday charges Mangione with two counts of stalking and one count each of murder through use of a firearm and a firearms offense. Murder by firearm carries the possibility of the death penalty, though federal prosecutors will determine whether to pursue that path in coming months.
He should just be released.
What did he even do?
Everyone wants him released. Especially women.
I thought we were supposed to believe all women?
Women are saying he should be freed, and I believe it.
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Doesn’t every first degree murder require “stalking”?
Why isn’t every first degree murder a Federal case?
Is the purpose of this whole show to Federalize all murders?
Once all murders are Federalized, why not Federalize all crime?
He can start a Beaver Patrol if acquitted methinks.
Will American history books one day cite Luigi Mangeoni as the one who fired the first shot against the American corporatocracy.
On second thought I wonder where Albert Bourla is hiding.
As I understand the concrete stool in a cell in the Supermax in Colorado, it is immovable, and faces a small black-and-white tv. The tv plays only religious and self-improvement programming. I don’t know what seating amenity is offered in a Gitmo cell, but my guess is it won’t be a BarcaLounger recliner. It seems clear that Luigi is bound for one or the other federal lockup; thus the federal charges. And either way, he will experience health-care service denials.
In the 2019 case of Gamble v. United States, the Supreme Court upheld the dual sovereignty doctrine, reiterating that the Double Jeopardy Clause only bars successive or concurrent prosecutions by the same sovereign. the federal government is a separate sovereign.
Someone commented about a “separate sovereign” bringing charges. How many sovereigns can you fit on the head of a pin?
I have said this before, You take a life, you give up your life the same way you took their life
It was Italian immigrants who largely brought anarchism to the United States, so play on, Luigi, it’s a proud tradition. Emma Goldman famously said an anarchist is someone who does not need a policeman to tell them what not to do, which sounds like libertarianism for grownups.
No. They like the “justice” system redundancies. Can’t risk some white supremest jury of peers letting off a racist/vigilante/election denier.
This is what they are afraid of, courtesy of Jerry Clower:
Mangione’s natural place in the social hierarchy makes his sacrifice powerful and meaningful. What a gift he has given. May God shield his heart from evil as he finishes his journey.
I would love to see Luigi hold out for a jury trial rather than being brow-beaten into a plea deal to “avoid the death penalty.”
Does anyone think a legit jury would convict ?
TPTB will have to really bare their fangs if this goes to trial.
Everything in the case seems to send this message that it way beyond the pale to kill a Fortune 500 CEO.
Last night ABC News had some hour-long special about the extensive manhunt. After the shooting they had dive teams scouring the pond for the gun. They had extensive drone tracking and surveillance. They had thousands of NYPD and FBI working the case and thousands of officers on the ground, scouring Central Park and retracing the shooter’s escape route.
If a loved one of yours gets gunned down in NYC you’ll get two lazy detectives assigned to the case and maybe they’ll look for the killer.
The oligarchs have to make it clear, Fortune 500 CEO’s are a super-protected class.
It’s obvious with the speed that this killing is being dealt with, with the NYC, State and Feds taking part in it, they are extremely scared of copycats or they want to use this as a big diversion to take the public’s attention away from the Ukraine war and what’s going on in the Middle East.
If Mangione is a fall guy like Oswald, we’ll see this go on and on for months, the powers-that-be used it as a coverup because the man who was killed, they wanted dead as he was going to testify before congress about Covid.
Could the killing of the Russian general be related to this? Apparently the Russian general had exposed a lot about the Ukraine biowarfare labs and who was behind them.
Could this also be related to the arrest of German/American lawyer Reiner Fuellmich who was recently arrested on trumped up charges of embezzlement in Germany? Reiner Fuellmich was one of the most prominent activists in the covid truth movement.
It seems that the powers-that-be are getting really scared of the public finding out the real truth about covid, the Ukraine biowarfare labs and the truth behind who really runs things in the west.
@tamberlint
Dumb and wrong.
@Andrew Anglin
While your argument regarding double jeopardy may be right, asking what Luigi did wrong while presuming he is guilty of murder is wrong.
The average white woman would sleep with or marry Luigi faster than it took Johnson to hit the ground. Go to any story on Luigi, even his extradition to New York, and read the comments. “When my child needed surgery” … “I was denied multiple times” … “They said my husband’s coverage…”
It’s crazy to see the antipathy toward healthcare companies. If I were a healthcare C-suiter I think my daily security routine would be similar to that of a prosecutor or judge in Ciudad Juárez.
There’s elements of the recent reboot of Day of the Jackal.
Black flunkies going after a good looking assassin. Target a rich CEO. A 3D printed welrod pistol. He only lacked the niece who needed a medical procedure to save her life.
The press coverage on this case is enormous and stupid. Yesterday the fine journalists at Daily Mail reported fans of Luigi at his court hearing in Mario Brothers costumes. No pictures. Today they came across with a photo.
This is two fat slobs in Mario Brothers hats. I looked and you can get a complete Mario Brothers costume for thirty bucks at Amazon and Walmart. Professional fact checkers have a new gig.
Were there any spook agencies aiding and abetting Luigi? How did he find his victim? How did he get away and stay away for five days? Is he really that clever or did he have help from insiders? Stalking people is not so easy for one person to do unless they know their victim’s habits well and their victim is too stupid to catch on and change their habitual behavior.
Exactly.
Broula is Dr. Mengele on steroids and should have been considered the ace of spades in Luigi’s deck of cards.
Brian Thompson was an accountant with Price Waterhouse who rose rapidly thru the ranks and then started crunching numbers for United Health Care.
I am not making excuses for the guy, but he never saw, or, cared about the people that were refused services for their illnesses. The guy crunched numbers like a scout on an NFL team looking at a college QB. Does he bare any responsibility for his actions, even though he was second partied, maybe even third partied when you think of intent. I think he does. Not actually pulling the trigger, will still get you life, or, the loss of life sometimes. Charles Manson did not pull the trigger and was not even there when Sharon Tate was stabbed and hanged.
https://www.cielodrive.com/archive/sharon-was-hanged-as-she-died/
The horror of her death, imo, compares to the slow motion horror of the deaths of Americans who are T Rexxed up the ass by Obama Care and companies like United Health Care. It might actually be worse. Sharon Tate was dead in about 30 minutes and only terrorized for an hour or so.
Sitting around on borrowed time, knowing that tumor is eating you alive, while waiting for Brian Thompson to approve, or disapprove of your claim, has got to be agonizing.
Most of us, are wage slaves in a pyramid that at some point, reflects the power of who controls corporate America (Jews- Gordon Gekko “Greed is good!”) and the Federal Government (Again, Jews/Israel).
So who has the moral high ground here?
It’s hard to say, because you would really have to know Luigi very well to understand his motivations. A lot of killers are more than willing to acquire short term high profile status and spend their lives in jail, hoping for a movie of the week and Christmas cards, love letters and mentions on social media from the legions of whacked out white women who are unfulfilled by Feminist dreck from retards like Chelsea Handler.
My guess, is that he is a true believer, who will, in time, as he sits in his cell, waiting for the reaper, or, Bubba, come to regret his decision.
There are better ways to make your point, then shooting a stranger, no matter how contemptible he is, in the back in broad daylight.
This reinforces the Jew narrative and ironically, the anarcho-tyranny of which, Health Care is a big part of.
the vile us empire is owned by corporations. quite obvious to anyone with an IQ above room temperature.
Main thing will be insisting on a jury. A good lawyer will make conviction impossible.
You are right, guilt or innocence has NOTHING to do with the outcome.
If there is a preponderance of eggplants on the jury, then “Rinse, wash, repeat”. Hell, he will probably get an extra 25 years.
Jury nullification, is, at this point, standard operating procedure.
This was designed by the Jew media to be a Racial, anti cop, anti white incident, even though the video again, shows that the cops were only mildly interested in St George and probably thinking about where to have lunch that day.
This cop was an offering up to the nigger street gods for the payment of riots, chaos and mayhem that would destroy ever more white agency.
The Jewish media is responsible for this. The useful conceit of a Jewish controlled, racially biased press, that doctors evidence and suppresses context (NO ONE COULD SEE THAT VIDEO IN IT’S EITIRETY FOR 2 MONTHS.) was the catalyst for the riots.
The subsequent emetic encomiums dedicated to St. George Floyd by that same Jew controlled press will, to this day, taint and sway juries to once again, CONVICT.
Voir dire will determine the outcome.
there is something fishy about this case. a mcdonald’s employee id’ed him by his eyebrows? yeah, right.
apparently he’s hiding in mar-a-lago, with rfk jr., oddly enough, bragging about the great success of operation warp speed. beam me up scotty, no sign of intelligent life here.
https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/pfizer-ceo-built-good-relation-rfk-jr-highlights-trumps-pride-vaccine-work
So Luigi shouldn’t have shot the pig, his doctor should have withheld treatment?
Crazy stuff
Fortune 500 CEO’s are like captains in a mafia family. They “kick up” to the oligarchs who are the equivalent of Mafia Dons.
“ So who has the moral high ground here?
It’s hard to say, because you would really have to know Luigi very well to understand his motivations.”
Fully agree.
But then it has always been a fact of life that the laws are made to advantage the high and mighty over the great unwashed. Now Thompson might not be as nefarious as Bourla, but in a war you cannot choose and pick which one of your enemies is more deserving of death. Thompson did hurt many people who had no means of fighting back and while I agree with you, in principle, that extra-judicial killing by a vigilante does not contribute to a more just world, the message to the PTB should be clear “have respect for the downtrodden or bear the consequences”.
Thanks for a very thoughtful and profound post.
Maybe we should give RFK the benefit of the doubt. Bourla and other Big Pharma greats will do what they have always done, which is to test the pulse of any prospective official to see if he is willing to play ball. If RFK reveals his clear intentions at making Big Pharma pay for their abuses, there is no chance he will be confirmed by the Senate. RFK could be keeping his cards close to his chest. If he is confirmed then we have to wait and see.
A very compelling argument. Bravo Sir Joe!
The Feds, under Khazar Talmudic Zionist scum rule, assume that they have standing in a State felony prosecution because Luigi attacked one of the big money monsters, and scared the jew members of that gang of oligarchic vampire vermin.
Sniveling Khazar ratboy AG Garfinkel won’t countenance actions that cause stomach upset to rich members of the rat’s tribe, and stretches out his rat nose to stick it into the matter.
Also, Crossing State Lines to avoid criminal apprehension is NOT a capital crime.
Sigh… the Khazar theory has been debunked long ago.
Great observation. That makes a lot of sense. Though I would have thought that Albert Bourla should be the fall guy.
This will only increase popular support for people like Luigi. It’s a “let them eat cake” moment.
Fuentes should at least move to an area where self defense is allowed. Where he lives, he either has to rely on Chicongo’s finest to come save his ass when feminist white knights show up at his house to kill him or risk going to jail if he defends himself.
that was quite a show, theatre for the proleteriats to keep working “hard” and be really afraid.
that’s how stupid the USian crapitalists view their debt and tax lackeys.
They wouldn’t really give a Jew like Luigi the death penalty. He’ll be given a sweet setup in the Bahamas next to Jeffrey Epstein and fake suicided.
The Khazar theory is proven by how much the Jews in power care about Khazaria, Ukraine, their original homeland.
well no, there is no genetic proof for the khazar theory, the fact that (((some of them))) still promote it even on Unz may be proof that it is useful for their Ukraine plans
The Jews either claim that the Jews are Khazars or that they are Israelites, and both are untrue.
As you can see in this plot of the genetic distance matrix
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2964539/figure/F1/
There are many problems with DNA origin theories. All of them are self selecting, so if a large enough population doesn’t take the test, it’s almost impossible to make any kind of reasonable guess at the results. The origin of the Ashkenazi is full of political considerations, with many of the geneticists themselves eager to prove, or disprove, origin theories. By eye, Ashkenazi Jews are as Pale as Scotsmen, while Sephardi are more Southern European looking. I can tell the difference between a German or Swede and an Italian or Spaniard. Was intermarriage really that common that it bred all the color out of Ashkenazi? Looks like one of those things we’ll never know for sure.
The fact that the “global elite” (it is them behind the mock justice) ask for the maximum for Luigi proves that they have been heavily smashed and are pissing in their pants with fear and hatred.
It shows that Luigi hit the motherload!
Look at the army of thugs in uniform around him, Bin Laden himself wouldn’t have had such an escort.
He has to stay dignified.
If they kill him, they’ll make a martyr out of him on par with Che Guevara.
A hero forever, young, like James Dean.
“Let them eat cake” never happened.
I once read a comment, can’t remember where, that (((they))) do not permit genetic analysis on samples of ancient Israelites, because it would presumably prove that the modern Jews are not genetically related to the ancient Israelites. And that would be very inconvenient for Israel, wouldn’t it?
But apart from this issue, Ashkennazi genetics have been relatively much analyzed, much better than any other Jew groups such as the Sephardi. They do show that much of the ethnogenesis for Ashkenazi took place in southern Europe, particularly Italy. Sephardi may have more North African and Iberian admixture, but there are fewer studies on the Sephardi Jews.
Thanks. As I’ve written a few times in TUR pages, the Anti-Semites are the Askenazim Israelis bombing and shooting the Semitic Christians, Muslims, and even some Mizrahi Jews in their quest to conquer and ethnically cleanse Palestine and the Levant.
Back at ya.
All the screaming emphasizes that which ought already to be obvious: Capital has a body. Capital is not discorporate; Mammon is incorporated. The head grows eagerly back, but we see vividly that these beasts are flesh — by taking possession, made themselves flesh.
It is commonly said, but hardly credited, that to rise through the ranks of a corporation is to lose your soul, to take the devil’s bargain, to become dead inside. Induction requires a series of surrenders – first labor, then conscience, then will, and then finally, identity.
To take a Host of the Chief Executive level is quite an audacious assault.
ALL that you mention, forced/voluntary/political converts to Judaism…
are NOT direct descendants of the ancient Israelites.
They are poseurs that are a religion or a culture depending on current/instant circumstances.
If by “Semites” you means middle-easterners from the Levant and Anatolia, then Ashkenazi, Italians, Palestianans, are all to some degree “Semites”, or circum-Meditarrenean people. The Ashkeanazi and Italians would be Western “semites” and Palestinians and Syrians eastern semites.
Che was no hero.
Luigi was original. The Christmas Market driver was a CIA plant though.
Anatolian farmers weren’t Semites, pretty much all European have some degree of Anatolian farmers ancestry, it’s just much more preponderant the further south you go :
https://avatars.dzeninfra.ru/get-zen_doc/1542444/pub_61c4dc1ccc60763374b7a634_61c5997dbb3a4b5ae1ffd70c/scale_1200
Anyway did anyone forget that Luigi Mangione’s eyebrows and the supposed CCTV pictures of the killers DO NOT match ;
https://uploads.dailydot.com/2024/12/United-Healthcare-assassin-suspect-eyebrows.jpg?q=65&auto=format&w=800&ar=2:1&fit=crop
Video Link
It seems like he is trying to say that he is a patsy, of course that doesn’t prove that he is one but you know.
https://headlineusa.com/twitter-sleuth-mangione-pelosi/
Also the Mangione and Pelosi families are apparently tied, and Pelosi was invested in UnitedHealthcare,
Brian Thompson was the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, the insurance arm of UnitedHealth Group, so he wasn’t even the “big boss”, this guy is :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Witty
Elite of whatever stripe are always worried about the pitchforks, because they know they deserve it.
agree with you joe, i’m just having a hard time giving anyone the benefit of the doubt today, especially when this good man has allowed himself, to fall into epstein’s honey trap. unfortunately great men, often have great libidos, that can be their achilles heel.
rfk has fought for decades to find justice for his father and uncle. i am saddened to think he may have found himself controlled by the people, that are most likely behind their murders. if this is the case it must cause his soul great agony but perhaps he can still do some good, if they allow him to reveal the c.i.a.’s role in their deaths, as well as fauci’s role in the covid bioweapon, even if it whitewashes the israeli’s role in the same crimes.
The comment was in reply to the OPs comment on “semites” (anti-semites).
The OP was saying that Asheknazi are not “semites” while they are “anti-semites”
I was telling him that Ashkenazi, even if they are closer to Italians, are also part of the circum-Mediterranean peoples, like all Mediterranean are to some degree.
The Anatolian Farmer ancestry has a clear north south gradient outside of the Mediterranean. And there is also post-Neolithic (Farmers) genetic input from Anatolia/Middle East.
But your study is interesting for showing that Maltese, Sicilians, and Ashkenazi Jews are particularly close. (in Supplementary_Information)
Agree and share your feelings.
Your concerns spring from a just and noble soul, but reality is what it is.
Thompson was shot on the way to an “investors conference.” I wouldn’t be surprised if one of those “investors” represented was from BlackRock or any other nefarious “activist asset manager.” I don’t know the extent of Thompson’s guilt in The Great American Medicine Show, but he may be more of a middle-echelon figure than the hand-rubbing, ghoulish supremo of “health care” finance.
And now “they’ve” come for Fuentes! Indeed, none of us is safe! Someday “they” might come for YOU or ME! And if we’re not careful, there may not be anyone available to help us, because we shrugged when “they” came for Saint Nick. (smirk).