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Previously: Luigi Doesn’t Have to Go to Prison – The People Can Choose to Let Him Go Free
There is a whole movement of people in the government and media talking about how they are so opposed to Luigi Mangione taking out a fat cat corporate terrorist because they are against vigilante justice generally.
Many of these shills are “right-wingers” or “libertarians.” None of them will say that it is only through bribing the government, and the Obamacare system, that UnitedHealth was able to become the massive company that it is. The company is worth nearly 15 times as much as it was when Obamacare was implemented in March of 2010.
With their profits increase, they also increased their government bribery campaign.
In the United States, there simply is no way to distinguish between large corporations and governments, and anyone supports these corporations is de facto supporting the government. There is no clear left-right line to draw here.
But when it comes to the shills, they are not even admitting that they are taking a side, but rather claiming that they oppose all vigilante justice on principle.
In reality, no one has such a principle.
Does anyone actually believe that Josh Shapiro would be condemning vigilante justice if someone did an extrajudicial killing of the Ayatollah?
Josh Shapiro: "In America, we do not kill people in cold blood to resolve policy differences or express a viewpoint … I have no tolerance, nor should anyone, for one man using an illegal ghost gun to murder someone because he thinks his opinion matters most … he is no hero." pic.twitter.com/RSRwz5fQNq
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 10, 2024
The “right-wing,” Josh’s cousin Ben, has also condemned the execution of Brian Thompson.
Ben Shapiro's own viewers revolt over his pro-health insurance comments: pic.twitter.com/ZrOvRfO6TQ
— The Young Turks (@TheYoungTurks) December 11, 2024
Obviously, these Shapiros would support a vigilante killing their enemies, just like everyone supports vigilantes killing their enemies. The only people condemning Luigi are people who support the American Empire’s system of corporate and state power coming together to dominate the world for the benefit of a tiny elite class which contains a drastic overrepresentation of Jews.
With the Shapiros specifically, you might ask what the difference is between a vigilante street killing and Israel’s actions all through the Middle East, which have been declared illegal by the rest of the world. With that you would be getting into the nature of law and power, and you would have to eventually come to the conclusion that Israel is able to killing people in other countries because they have the power to do that. This gets into an interesting question about the nature of power and the “rights” of individuals in relation to states. The ultimate and probably difficult reality is that no one actually has any “rights” beyond what they are capable of doing, and the IDF only has more “right” to kill people than Luigi Mangione because they are capable of it. A state that offers its citizens various “rights” is only capable of doing that because it has the ability to commit violence.
That’s a bigger issue, however, which is largely beyond our scope today. The immediate issue at hand is a clip of Jesse Waters AKA “Gay Tucker Carlson” who condemned Luigi for being a vigilante before in the same breath saying that he hopes a vigilante kills him in prison.
Watters: He’s way too soft. He’s going to get annihilated. If he's not going to get the death penalty, maybe someone will do him justice behind bars
Jeanine: You should stop there pic.twitter.com/NFuvKNhshv
— Acyn (@Acyn) December 9, 2024
This is nonsensical tripe. He’s against vigilante killings but he thinks vigilantes should be killed by vigilantes.
That’s all of these people whining about Luigi, who are all faggots.
I’m aware that much of the support for Luigi is coming from the left, but that is actually good. Why would anyone on the right be against leftists having the correct position? This is the same bullshit that Ben Shapiro did with the anti-Israel protests: “you should support Israel because the left is against them.” This is not the way adults form opinions.
The correct way to form an opinion is to ask whether something benefits you and your personal agenda. If this is the way you are thinking, you are not going to make a judgement call on the morality or lack thereof of vigilante killings, you’re going to ask: “well, who are the vigilantes killing?” All of this stuff about morals and principles is just bullshit for plebs. Morals and principles have to come from a rational place that is not abstract, but based on ones own interests.
Ask the Shapiros or Jesse Waters how they would feel if a Russian vigilante took out Vladimir Putin.
Meanwhile, outside of Jews and their shills, what about Gary Plauché, who in 1984 killed the man who kidnapped and raped his son? Is there anyone who is opposed to that? Plauché did zero prison time, by the way. In the same year, Bernhard Goetz shot four blacks who were hassling him on the New York subway, and despite crippling one of them, only served 8 months in jail. He was widely supported by the public.
This is a complete joke, this idea of “our principles and values mean only cops and the military can kill people.” No one believes in it and anyone claiming to believe in it right now is simply a shill for the medical industrial complex. Further, they are probably also just generally uncomfortable with the idea of vigilantes targeting elites, and the masses of people considering that justice can exist outside of the legal system.
From a religious perspective, it is fine to say “murder is immoral.” Certainly, a society should not allow murder. But the response to that in the Luigi case is that the health insurance companies are killing people constantly, and the government, who is paid off by the insurance companies, refuses to stop them.
Everyone has to come up with their own view on this. I think it’s fair to say that everyone would prefer to live in a society where the government represented the masses of people instead of a minority elite, where the government did not accept bribes from corporations, and collude with corporations, against the masses of people. Unfortunately, we do not live in such a society.
I’m Not Endorsing the Killing
I’m not endorsing the killing of Brian Thompson. I do think he deserved it, and I don’t think Luigi should be punished, but I will not endorse murdering people on the streets.
Again, no one wants to live in a society where people feel so helpless and so incapable of receiving justice from the government that they start killing people. Unfortunately, through the democracy project, the ruling elite of the United States have created a system where the masses of people have no ability to petition grievances, and the secular nature of the state means that it has no guiding principles to which it has to adhere. Any principles the state does have are constantly shifting, and there is no way to hold the government accountable for anything.
It would be ridiculous to create a situation like the one we have in America and expect that the population will not become radicalized and ultimately become violent. It’s basic cause and effect.
What you are going to see, as the gap between rich and poor continues to widen, and the government continues to get more and more lawless, is that the elite are going to further militarize against the population. This means more cops, it means more suppression of speech and crackdowns on dissident movements, it means more elite enclaves where the rulers are protected from the peasantry.
It’s not nice. It’s not a good future. But it is the inevitable result of democracy and secularism, an out of control government that is not accountable to anyone.
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Vigilante justice crops up on its own in the absence of effective law enforcement. The Vigilance Committee of Gold Rush era San Francisco is a prime example of this phenomenon.
Thompson devised a new method of profiting from the privatization of Medicare, by routinely denying claims of seniors who’d been lured into the “Medicare Advantage” swindle. Using fault-ridden AI algorithms, UnitedHealthcare’s rejection rates skyrocketed during Thompson’s term as CEO, to 32%, double the industry average. Accordingly, in Thompson’s three year tenure, corporate profits rose by $4 billion, and Thompson received over $10 million in bonuses. In this period some seventy thousand of his customers lost their lives because they were refused the care they needed – much of which they could have gotten if they has stayed with “traditional” Medicare and been able to pay the 20% deductible, that was also finagled into the system for private insurer profit.
Some related links of interest
https://tarbell.org/2021/06/medicare-advantage-and-the-privatization-of-medicare/
https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/humana-cvs-medicare-advantage-benefit-plan-cuts-2025-unitedhealth/716764/
the government continues to get more and more lawless, is that the elite are going to further militarize against the population.
Just when we thought it couldn’t get any worse. City blocks destroyed during mostly peaceful protests; gay perverts dressed like women reading books to children; legalized theft; and paying people from other countries to cross America’s open borders. Now, we have the glamorization of shooting wealthy people on the streets. Thanks for the new psyop, America, as we descend into total lawlessness.
But you are endorsing the official narrative, pleasing to so many, that he was killed by someone outraged about medical bills. You are completely ignoring the possibility that this was a false flag.
In the hours after the 9/11 attacks, we were barraged with media stories about Islamic terrorism and Osama bin Laden in his cave in Afghanistan. It wasn’t until years later that some of us were exposed to the idea that someone else may have had a motive to carry out the attack.
The premise is government for the people by the people (we are in it together).
What we have is forced taxation farm with a fake elected government mostly run by unelected appointees who are part of an international mafia attempting to exert final and complete control of the world’s population. (you are on your own, yet, you are owned).
Finally, someone actually acted out what many are thinking, although we don’t have the specific reason Thompson was targeted. The fascist gloom that has settled over the US is teaching its populace that criminality is the norm.
If you can’t beat them, join them?
The thing is that vigilantes are only allowed when they are there to kill non-whites and those at the bottom. The rich do not allow themselves to be watched, they are the government.
The only thing Mangione did wrong was to not be black. Then our two tier judicial system, particularly in NYC would have dealt with him accordingly by having him back on the streets in hours.
It’s not a bad heuristic to assume that any spectacular violence serves the elites.
If the legal team do clever jury selection he walks. Get the right demographic like they did on the OJ trial and he’s on easy street.
I disagree. The interesting question will be who gets to sit on that jury.
He wasnt ever insured by UHC. Not a customer. Not that this matters to the author here. His new hero is an Ivy league graduate with millionaire parents
In state and federal common law (the UDHR preamble) Luigi has recourse to rebellion for the state’s failure to protect our rights to health, livelihood, and life. Every juror has a moral and legal imperative to weigh the terminal corruption of this state against Luigi’s attempt to force restitution.
I disagree. The interesting question will be who gets to sit on that jury.
You could be right; time will tell. It will certainly be interesting if they allow this guy to testify. Will the push for the maximum penalty because he is white? He is already something of a folk hero.
But this story has too many elements that do not add up, making it highly suspicious. It reads like a B-grade hollywood script, and is also consistent with the Biden agenda to leave the country burning in his wake. Open season on CEOs is nearing the ultimate dystopia.
The Machine will grind on. Nothing will change at core to fix a corrupt system.
CEOs will now walk around with a protection detail.
The whole system is corrupt to the core.
Why is there such a thing as for -profit Health Insurance company, with CEOs making $10s of millions in annual salary. For what? For minimizing “costs”, i.e. denying treatment to patients.
People pay good money to buy health insurance, then when they most it need it, it is denied. You have to have insurance, otherwise you’ll go bankrupt if soemthing bad happens. And the premiums are astonomical. The worst of it is that US is #1 in per capita costs, but we are something like 40th place in health metrics in the world. Health “insurance” is another diabolical wealth transfer scheme.
I am 100% for profit for most things*, but for health care? It’s absurd.
The whole for-profit Health Insurance scheme is absurd.
These things happen, because nothing happens to CEOs in US who cause deaths of people.
Forgot his name, but Boeing’s CEO who was at the helm when the 737 MAX disaster was created walked away with $10s millions — to live happily ever after, while about ~300 people were killed because he approved the decisions to rush a defective airplane into service so as not to lose market share to Airbus in that segment. I am not saying CEOs should be jailed for making honest mistakes, but in this case upper management knew the product was defective, and they pushed it out anyway.
They have useless “Congressional Hearings” after the fact, but nothing happens.
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* Profit drives innovation, and results in better, cheaper products.
Isn’t the vigilante the quintessential american capeshit hero gifted by your friendly neighbourhood NY-Jewro?
Informative info on Medicare “Disadvantage” programs.
Anglin, as usual, scores another bullseye with a direct and pithy hit.
Quick calculation: 15 year annualized return (since Obamacare): UMB = 23.2%. AAPL = 28.3%.
In regard to vigilante justice I believe the average person would justify vigilantism in response to actual bodily harm done to oneself or a beloved one. Going after a CEO, not matter how harmful that company’s policies are, does not manifest in the minds of most folks in the same manner. But A.A. has brought to the fore many good points in this article.
$33 million to be more precise.
And, yes, the political theatre is the veil of Maya.
Paying a small fortune for goods and services only to be denied those goods and services is not sustainable without bloodshed. Surely Adam Smith said this.
Good job. This is personal growth.
The us is a shit pile with shit people.
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At the end of the day, vigilante justice is better than no justice at all. The problem with this case is there is more than meets the eye. Yes Thompson was a thoroughly rotten character typical of Wall Street, but ultimately a bit player. He was being investigated for insider trading deals, some involving members of congress. He might have been turning into a snitch, and the capos in the shadowy organizations running the vast racket might have used a certain federal agency to arrange the ‘vigilante’ justice being portrayed in gaslight media. Meanwhile, as several here have noted, UHC and Wall Street will have no trouble finding someone who is twice the disciple of Hell that Thompson himself was to fill his clown shoes.
Unless vigilantes were so numerous, ruthless and unrelenting that the fatality rates of CEOs and all those protecting them exceeded that of white South African farmers to the point that nobody wanted to risk working for the usual suspects for any amount of fake money, the utterly rotten and corrupt system will remain untouched. In the Empire of Lies, most of the tardocracy continues to believe in the daily lies told by the gaslight consent-factory. Oh and just by the way, the newly-minted vigilate hero Luigi is a very well-off relative of Nancy Pelosi, the borg-queen of congressional inside trading.
“Power stems from the end of a gun barrel”. Mao
MIGHT (Guns) MAKES RIGHT.
“In the United States, there simply is no way to distinguish between large corporations and governments, and anyone supports these corporations is de facto supporting the government. There is no clear left-right line to draw here.” – This is, IS Fascism.
This emotionally unstable (I think very gay.) dude, made a choice, based on the movie playing in his head, where he is a hero.
He couldn’t make a bomb?
He killed one fuckin, anonymous dude in public and half asses his escape. He WANTS to be T-Rexxed up the azz by Puffy in prison.
People/Media are comparing him to Ted Kaczynski. Gimme a break, Teddy K was a serious killer and was ready to kill a hell of a lot more people right after breakfast everyday.
This guy is a bag of hammers weirdo who thinks he is his own private Posse Comitatus in his Own Private Idaho.
A real “vigilante” is a KKK badass like Nathan Bedford Forrest who actually for a while, stemmed the tide of Carpet Bagger scum parasites who preyed upon innocent Southerners.
Give me the Weather Underground, The Symbionese Liberation Army.
Those fuckers suckin at the public teat because of “ObamaCare” would be actually shitting their pants if Donald DeFreeze was in his garage assembling ordnance and soldiers with evil intent.
Those Jews might even reduce our rates
Love the thumbnail of Steve Dillon’s artwork of the Punisher. Vigilantism is based AF.
Do you prefer your flavor urban or rural?
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American patriots vs. Badge niggers.
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This was a well planned hit! The “patsy” will be a temporary fall guy soon to have an Epstein moment. Get new face job and live a comfortable life in Tel Aviv. You can’t believe a word of this bu!!shit coming out of NYPD mob headquarters. The trillion dollar health mob wanted this CEO gone and “Voila” – he disappeared!
I can’t help but thinking the ruling and corporate castes are wetting their panties about now.
They’ve slowly put together a system that is constantly scraping the extremes of “one more penny” at the expense of the rank-n-file. We have:
1) Borked up insurance.
2) Big pharma advertising. It appears that most vaccines have been untested. Autism skyrocketing.
3) Fake, fiat money allowing Central Bankers to skim off the country.
4) Inflation going thru the roof, thirty trillion deficit spent by utter criminal morons that have no intent of paying it back.
5) Massive theft of 21+ trillion by the pentagon & HUD as of 8+ years ago. When they were outed, they changed their accounting rules to take a large portion of federal accounting black (classified). This was during Trump’s first watch. No telling now how many more trillions have been stolen since then.
6) They took our manufacturing overseas and now we typically buy products with 50% or less of the life they had when domestically made.
7) a foreign genocidal cult has achieved large scale control pf the federal regime.
8) Flooding the country with third world dregs and paying them enormous sums.
9) FEMA is completely non-functional.
10) GMO poison and engineered “food” are killing us.
11) Fluoride is dumbing us down.
C’mon people — you know the republic is hosed. It’s done. The movers and shakers had best be looking over their shoulders because it only takes one irate victim to change the equation. And all of us get front row seats to this historical movement.
Anyone remember Archduke Franz Ferdinand?
If the scolds can come up with a better solution, I’d love to hear it. But they don’t care about solutions, of course, and are only interested in maintaining the status quo. I vividly recall how excited people were in 2008 when Obama pledged to create a public health insurance option; then he took office, forced tens of millions of people to buy the same shitty private insurance that was the problem to begin wiith, and had the temerity to call it “health care reform.” This is the ugly reality that the media scolds condone, and they don’t want anyone to fix it or even acknowledge it. Ever. They feel that the peasants are getting precisely what they deserve.
Fully-functioning public health care systems are for Israel; dirty unsophisticated blue-collar Americans can go to hell. That’s what assholes like Ben Shapiro and Jesse Waters think.
Lol, why would it matter to anyone in the bigger picture?
This is the best revenge themed/vigilante story ever: Michael Kohlhaas.
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Even Martin Luther himself makes a cameo appearance.
Exemplifies all recent Anglin’s strand of thought about power coming only from the barrel of a gun, and justice just being one tool wielded by the powerful at their own whims. Peasantry is told lies about a presumed higher morality being at the basis of justice, with the true state of things finally understood by them only in the case they try to petition for their grievances.
Kohlhaas discovers all this at his expense, but has the balls and the charisma to mount an open rebellion.
Initially he is by himself and is spurred on by personal motives, but step-by-step his successful blitzes and sorties against the powerful will gain him the aura of the winner, and as such the plebs beg to join him in what becomes an armed political rebellion that has even higher feudal elites trembling.
LMAO!!!!!!!
Ted killed how many? THREE… with BOMBS!
Talk about much oy vey about nothing…
Any chance Thompson was going to admit to major losses due to excess death claims?
Was this a set up .
Why would Luigi still have everything on him while sitting in the MacD,s.
No way a 13$ an hour macD employee recognized Luigi, and they are not paying out the reward.
What colour was Luigis backpack, grey or black?
Photos have him wearing both colours.
Scooby doo once again??
Killing the Sherman’s in Toronto made all Pharma execs fall in line for Convid.
Killing Thompson will do the same for insurance ceos who are losing $ to excess death claims.
Ten fingers but more than eleven holes in the dykes.
Need the trickle to become a flood.☘️🇨🇦
The NYPD hired the daughter of a wealthy real estate guy to be the police chief. She was never a cop. Not for a day. Never held a law enforcement position anywhere. It looks like her family actually paid the mayor to make their little girl the chief. And no one cares. It’s crazy. The NYPD is now, officially, a joke.
So what is the difference between “not endorsing” and thinking he deserved it and the perp shouldn’t be punished?
As far as being a false flag, i suppose it’s possible. But to what purpose – what view are they trying to get us to swallow? If the psyop is “he killed bc of medical bills” are we supposed to think killing bc of medical bills is bad? Seems most people find such reasoning to be justifiable.
There’s no reason growing wealth inequality between nations has to necessarily result in the ‘elite militarizing against the population’ inside a particular nation — racial diversity is more likely to be the cause of this, as competition and animus between racial groups has been the norm throughout human social evolution — the term anarcho-tyranny was coined to describe this.
The quality of human capital varies between nations and between racial and ethnic groups — advancing technology means cognitive ability becomes even more important — nations with lower quality human capital will become poorer compared to nations with higher quality human capital — this will likely spur more migration of low quality human capital to the First World, especially the white First World.
A plausible explanation for this phenomenon was advanced decades ago: The Smart Fraction Theory of IQ and the Wealth of Nations — also the book IQ and the Wealth of Nations addresses the relationship between national wealth and cognitive ability — see the recent work of Emil Kirkegaard et al: Smart fraction theory vindicated.
This is a big reason it so foolish and irresponsible for white countries to allow large numbers of non-white migrants: it guarantees future problems due to unequal SES between racial groups, which always manifests as social pathology.
Forrest was more like an insurgent fighting a foreign army of occupation.
Are all Shapiros angry, deceiving rats?
GOV. SHAPIRO’S DUPLICITY IS ASTOUNDING
https://www.catholicleague.org/gov-shapiros-duplicity-is-astounding/
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>social pathology
Racial and ethnic diversity introduces all kinds of destructive social pathology into white nations.
link — Revealed: NHS calls for midwives specialising in inbred babies – as Labour refuses to back ban on marrying first cousins
The killer escaped NYC, then a few days later turns up in a Pennsylvania McDonalds, still carrying the murder weapon, a manifesto, and multiple fake IDs, including the one he supposedly used while in NYC. This is akin to to the FBI finding the intact passport of the 9/11 hijackers the same day they flew planes into the towers.
“So what is the difference between “not endorsing” and thinking he deserved it and the perp shouldn’t be punished?”
He’s covering his ass in case someone goes off and kills another CEO and says he got the idea from Anglin’s blog post.
Read somewhere the wealthiest, healthiest nations
are those which imprison, execute their
American-style capitalists.
No mercy shown.
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Speaking of the lies we were fed after 9/11, lies which have not been officially corrected to this day, think of al-Qaeda and bin Laden in Afghanistan. Even at the time it was pretty clear it was all outrageous hog wash.
Now we learn that al-Qaeda folks, still financed by US and Israel as in the 9/11 era, are supposedly top dogs in post-Assad Syria. The Islamist mercenary head choppers were set up to defeat the Soviet puppet regime and then to provide the patsies to be blamed for 9/11 in order to protect the Zionist culprits. Now the CIA-Mossad have once again hired the “jihadists” blamed for 9/11. The most recent incarnation of “al-Qaeda” can kill who they want as part of the theatrical role assigned them in Syria
The morale of the story is that, as long as you are well paid by the government to kill random people in order to advance a deceptive narrative, you’ve got it made in the shade. Otherwise, watch out law breakers.
Investigate 9/11!
There should in NO WAY be for profit health care
There should IN NO WAY be for profit arms manufacturers or defense contractors
There should IN NO WAY be private for profit prisons nor cop forces allowed to keep siezed goods like modern day privateers
You allow these and wars, theft, and death will be your ubiquitous shadow; simple as.
Andrew Anglin: “No One Is “Against Vigilante Justice on Principle””
I can think of one guy who is. Anglin’s rabbi! What would Jesus do, Andy?
Is the much anticipated Pentagon alien hoax finally ramping up? Ever since AA announced it I’ve been waiting for the Big Moment, but clearly DHS/FBI are not in the loop.
“Joint DHS/FBI Statement on Reports of Drones in New Jersey
Today, the FBI and DHS jointly issued a statement on reported drone sightings in New Jersey:
“We have no evidence at this time that the reported drone sightings pose a national security or public safety threat or have a foreign nexus. The FBI, DHS and our federal partners, in close coordination with the New Jersey State Police, continue to deploy personnel and technology to investigate this situation and confirm whether the reported drone flights are actually drones or are instead manned aircraft or otherwise inaccurate sightings.
“Historically, we have experienced cases of mistaken identity, where reported drones are, in fact, manned aircraft or facilities. We are supporting local law enforcement in New Jersey with numerous detection methods but have not corroborated any of the reported visual sightings with electronic detection. To the contrary, upon review of available imagery, it appears that many of the reported sightings are actually manned aircraft, operating lawfully. There are no reported or confirmed drone sightings in any restricted air space.
“We take seriously the threat that can be posed by unmanned aircraft systems (UAS), which is why law enforcement and other agencies continue to support New Jersey and investigate the reports. To be clear, they have uncovered no such malicious activity or intent at this stage. While there is no known malicious activity occurring in New Jersey, the reported sightings there do, however, highlight the insufficiency of current authorities.”
Will someone please place me on a jury. I’ll nullify the verdict so fast it will make the judges head spin
Nice one. Post more.
Members of the Five Families of New York? Hee hee.
Jokes aside, vigilante justice is obviously wrong, but we all have a certain admiration (however pretendingly hidden) for what certain people do.
Still wrong though.
When the “Doctor’s Visit” scene in “ As Good as it Gets” cursed HMO-care, the audiences in movie theaters broke-out into cheering; applauded; standing ovations.
Are you talking about the Jesus Christ who overturned tables and chased the money changers out of the Temple with a whip? You’re just another anti-Christian trying to twist the Gospel because you’re angry that God didn’t give you something you wanted. Is that “Dr” in front of your name for a PhD in clownology? (Because you’re a clown-get it?)
No one cares what an atheist says about Christ, it’s like asking a communist about Adam Smith.
Happens every damned time, same stupid tragedy. See: https://aier.org/article/the-economic-consequences-of-populism/ and https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a62875397/homelessness-in-america/ for a more realistic view of the New Deal, as opposed to the New Dealer propaganda that the world has been given by an academic community that originally dispensed it.
Government needs tax money to pay off the members of its constituency, but its non-monetary payoffs (clean graft, favorable “regulation”, previous payoffs in the form of highly inefficient government contracts for services, misallocation of capital, etc.) decrease its tax revenues.
So, having lost tax revenue, what does the government do?
a) Borrows more.
b) Demands higher taxes so that it can maintain the coalition needed to retain power. Coalitions don’t come cheap – their leaders require money to pay their followers. When it’s down to just a dictator and his Army, the Army still has to be paid. (Syria’s collapse shows what happens when coalition pay is only marginal and coalition members go freelance with corruption. Same thing with the USSR. ).
This sparks a reaction. What does the government do?
a) Denounces the reaction.
b) Demands more control ( See: https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/whole-society-american-politics )
c) Raises armed regime protection force to get that control.
(During the Great Society, the “armed regime protection force” was the criminals, who were unleashed against the general public under the Warren Court. Stalin did pretty much the same with his criminal class, see The Gulag Archipelago ). Under the Obama coalition, DOD has been converted from an expeditionary combat force to a regime protection force.)
And sometimes there is a reaction, and sometimes the reaction succeeds: e.g. the English Revolution under Cromwell. We will see what Trump does in the US. Trump’s election is a reaction, we’ll see how his rule works out, not that we have a choice.
A goy killed a goy. A profitable company’s shares will fall. Insightful investors will pick them up. The company will continue to make profits.
UDHR
Declaration of Independence
In order for the above to apply, the shooter would need to have at least the appearance of an Army of One, insignia and a manifesto. Otherwise, it is just revenge or attention-seeking.
Open season on CEOs is nearing the ultimate dystopia.
Lmao. Do you think we are gonna get anywhere with voting and protests? lel. Stacking skulls is the only historically proven way to bring actual change anything else is lies.
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What if they wanted to jump straight to the ‘demand more control’ step? Couldn’t they skip waiting for a reaction by offering their own contrived reaction? They could stage something, you know, like the public execution of a CEO.
Bert, your 53 the stupidest fucking thing I ever heard. You got to dress up in a soldier suit to defend your universally-acknowledged rights? No wonder you’re so downtrodden.
The PRC under Xi is trying that method. The trouble is always the same: control of production and distribution by a political entity is, you guessed it, political. Take a look at [1] again to see the result of that. Political control produces political results. See:
Bruce Bueno de Mesquita, Alastair Smith; The Dictator’s Handbook: Why Bad Behavior is Almost Always Good Politics; 2011. The political leader must maintain subordinates who head factions, and these subordinates must be able to pay their subordinates, etc. In the simplest case, the dictator needs only the Army, but the Army has to be paid.
A complex system of production and consumption requires participation of more supporting factions than just the Army. Armies are great at destruction, not so good at production. Industrial economies require a great number of supporting factions, hence tend to be ruled by political machines, which are a sort of intermediate between the executive and the population.
The problem in industrial economies is that the political machine tends to expel constituencies so that government income and borrowing need be divided up among the fewer surviving constituencies. That’s how the Era of Good Feelings Democratic-Republican coalition lost power – it expelled supporters until it was winning elections by tiny majorities. Then it came up against Lincoln and Slavery and vanished during the Civil War. The present (2024-12) Uniparty (Now with real eunuchs!) may vanish in the same way.
The Progressives were essentially the population pre-US Revolution, and wanted to industrialize the US. When they did so, they increased the size of the immigrant voting block. That block, together with Progressive hubris ( the “American Melting Pot” that was supposed to produce a Progressive American base population), created the New Deal.
And the New Deal was parasitic on industrialization (again, see [1]). So was the 1970 to 2014 US society, and so was Obama’s ruling coalition, 2014-2024.
So that has been the history of political control of industry in the United States.
CONCLUSION:
To me, the important thing about assassination of the healthcare CEO was the public reaction. First, the assassinated CEO had been wildly successful by a simple strategy of denying medical care through delay. The CEO realized that delay until the insured person was dead meant no payment ever. Anglin’s article ( https://www.unz.com/aanglin/no-one-is-against-vigilante-justice-on-principle ) makes a good case for that. Second, even successful insurance claims don’t protect against iatrogenic injury. Apparently the assassin was left in constant severe pain after his medical intervention [2].
The US polity has deteriorated so badly that the public is furious at the denial of benefits paid for (in this case coverage of medical expenses) and fraudulent medical treatments (in this case large nails in the spine causing constant severe pain). Trump was not elected on a whim.
Whether Trump can assemble a supporting coalition that can affect the above conditions is at present unknown. If Trump is really allied with the Jewish coalition, I’d say he will fail, and will fail because the Jewish coalition has already failed back in 2008, and has, as the quote goes, “learned nothing and forgotten nothing”. The world has deteriorated since 2008, and the US has deteriorated sharply under the Obama coalition (2014-2024). so it is unlikely that 2008 policies/political tactics will succeed during 2025 and following years.
So that’s why just turning over Healthcare to government seems unpromising. Done there, did that. The real question is whether Trump can gather a coalition that saves US industrial society from Obama’s attempt at miring the US in a demographic trap.
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1] https://aier.org/article/the-economic-consequences-of-populism/ and https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a62875397/homelessness-in-america/
Note the the US downturn was in part caused by a reduction in European demand as Europe recovered from the destruction of capital and people during WW I, so the downturn might have been much worse than usual, and required more recovery time than average.
2] https://www.unz.com/aanglin/no-one-is-against-vigilante-justice-on-principle/#comment-6902299
I disagree. Many people have had friends and family royally screwed over by insurance companies of all sorts. Insurance companies, and by extension their employees, are very unpopular. I don’t think that the the state will be able to convict Mangione because 12 people will not sentence him to life in prison.
Health insurance companies should not be publicly traded as it obviously creates perverse incentives. Quality health care should not be sacrificed on the alter of shareholder value. The U.S. is one big Jewish bank job.
Rich: “Are you talking about the Jesus Christ who overturned tables and chased the money changers out of the Temple with a whip?”
This is a pretty good point, actually. Yep, that’s the one.
And not only that, I’m talking about the same rabbi who, in Luke, says he wants to have his enemies killed in front of him, presumably just so he can enjoy it.
Then too, it’s understood that those agonies would be only a prelude to the eternal torture he has planned for them in his lake of fire. What fun he’s going to have! LOL
Clearly, this rabbi was of the “Do as I say, not as I do” school of thinking. Like Andrew, and like all Jews, he’s a hypocrite. If he didn’t have double standards, he wouldn’t have any standards at all.
I’ve always wondered if Con Inc would turn on guns if there was some trend where CEOs were being killed.
My guess is yes. Con Inc has made it very clear that Wall St comes first and I could see them backtracking on gun ownership laws.
Do you think we are gonna get anywhere with voting and protests?
I was honestly surprised by how much support there was for this guy. There was a lot of booing on the Daily Show when they mentioned that he was arrested. SNL got into trouble for basically saying that no one cares and some women found him good looking.
It shows an undercurrent of frustration with the status quo.
We really aren’t far from a French situation. The pressure is more than our clown town parties realize.
Josh Shapiro: “In America, we do not kill people in cold blood to resolve policy differences or express a viewpoint…”
Yeah, tell that to Ashli Babbitt.
Speaking of United Health Care and its denial process…
I, in no way condone the killing of the United Health Care CEO…there has to be a better way…to get the point across.
I can only account for my personal interaction with United Health Care and its almost automatic denial of claims process.
I had a good position, being employed by a major defense contractor who used United Health Care as a benefits administrator.
Every valid claim that I made for services rendered was automatically denied. Utilizing their appeal process still resulted in denial as well.
It was only when I took my stack of bills and denial notices to my company’s human resources department that they approved the claims and got paid.
Keep in mind that I was paying out-of-pocket for insurance coverage, $360.00 biweekly taken out of my paycheck, only to be automatically denied for covered services.
I wouldn’t touch United Health Care with a ten-foot pole.
A pox on them…
There’s no such thing as Federal common law. Dork.
So it turns out you’re not only unable to use an apostrophe correctly, you also can’t do basic research – this albino jewgirl did indeed work in NYPD previously, and a police commissioner is not the same as Chief. Go back to Tumblr.
Exactly. I don’t see anyone targeting the CEOs of Walmart… do you?
She worked in the office as favor to her father, dummkopf. In your world, does that make her a cop? Is the guy who sweeps the floor a cop, too? What about the window cleaner? Dummkopf. Yes, I suppose, in your world, a chief wears feathers, but in NY, “Police Chief” is an expression indicating the commisioner, because he’s the “chief” of police. Dummkopf.
A dago sacrificing his own life for the greater good – that is indeed rare for the Guidos and Dagos. Normally they are all clannish and only care for their own clan and family (see the Mafia).
Perhaps the ultra elite are prepared to sacrifice the lesser of their tier to the mob. Perhaps they are jaded and indifferent to it all even their potential doom. Interesting times if not the most interesting times
How many ‘Jesuses’ did they invent? I’m a great fan of ‘Queer Jesus’ but the relevant texts were burned, by St. Cyril if I recall correctly. Or was it St. Cecil?
Warning! Warning! Warning! Naive carmnist alert!
In the PRC they have a REAL ‘democracy’. Rule FOR the people, not BY the people, because, particularly in the West, half the people are vicious idiots, beset by insatiable greed. The PRC is ruled by an administrative elite, that anyone may join, promoted by their peers on the basis of merit. In the ‘liberal democracies’ the ruling elites are corrupt villains, totally controlled by the money power, particularly the Jewintern.
What @rich says here is technically the genetic fallacy, i.e. that an atheist cannot make a valid assessment of Jeebus.
However, as Aron Ra points out: if a theist cannot resort to fallacies, then he cannot make a case at all!
All arguments in favour of theism ultimately, when examined, turn out to be fallacious. And Christianity is arguably the stupidest iteration of theism.
No, you’re the stupidest iteration of all of them. Obviously. But you’ve been told that since you got stuffed into a locker back in 8th grade, right?
Oh, so you’re a mook. Now I understand. Mooks jump around playing “gotcha” like school hall monitors. I got thrown because you put “Dr” in front of your name. Why would I waste time throwing Gospel quotes at you? You’re obviously a lost cause. Many are called, few are chosen. You jus ain’t one of the chosen, “doc”. Enjoy your eternity.
And I don’t mind having an intellectual discussion about religion, I have ‘atheist’ friends and relatives, I’ve argued peacefully with Moslems and Jews. It’s just that you’re such a pissant, it’s annoying. It’s a waste of time.
I’m all for white men taking direct action against their oppressors. However, 99% of medicine is pseudoscience and harmful to society. Crying about insurance is gay and obfuscates the real issues. I also don’t take for granted that this story is even real.
Thanks for your .02 cents, Rabbi. Fuck you very much.
Good grief, here we go again.
gaedhal: “What @rich says here is technically the genetic fallacy … if a theist cannot resort to fallacies, then he cannot make a case at all!”
Christians need to have a very tenuous and fraught relationship with logic as proof of their faith. The wisdom of this world is foolishness to God, I think it says somewhere in their holy book. Also, when defeated in argument, they “become as little children” in order to enter the kingdom, as we see in commenter Rich’s quick resort to childish name calling.
It seems to me that this apparent contradiction between Jesus’ admonition to turn the other cheek and the vicious, psychopathic Jesus depicted in Luke could easily be resolved: God makes rules for man, but God is not bound to obey the rules himself. And indeed, as you yourself have pointed out elsewhere, there is not any death that occurs anywhere that God has not had a hand in in bringing about. Thus, God is the ultimate murderer. Should not the Christian then murder too, in imitatio Christi?
The passage in Luke could also be interpreted as an endorsement of murder as an act of obedience to God. Wouldn’t it be funny if Luigi Mangione turns out to be a fanatic Christian who uses Luke 19:27 as his authority for murdering Thompson? LOL! Come to think of it, why is there no modern Christian cult comparable to the thuggee cult in Hinduism?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuggee
Arguably, the Cainite cult of ancient times fell into this category.
mulga mumblebrain: “How many ‘Jesuses’ did they invent? I’m a great fan of ‘Queer Jesus’ …”
For me, it’s psychopath Jesus.
In American Crusade Andrew Seidel starts off with delusional Christians who actually act out what their imaginary rabbi friend is telling them to do, with predictably tragic results. Jeebus take the wheel is a real phenomenon. Urban Jungle Girl had a show: Gawd told me to do it. The advantage of being a non-theist is that if one develops Schizophrenia, and starts to hear voices, then he goes to see a Psychiatrist, because gods/demons don’t exist, and a fortiori neither do they communicate to humans. In Revelation the malevolent rabbi causes Jezobel to be gangraped, and then kills the children of this union. One also wonders where the Christian Rape Squads are? But of course Christians are very picky about what they do in imitatione Christi. As Ingersoll points out: to put the New Testament into practice would swiftly get a person committed to an insane asylum.
When Eric Blair shot the elephant, he must have felt a little like Pontus Pilate. Or known what he must have felt.
He will be tough to convict.
gaedhal: “… Christians are very picky about what they do in imitatione Christi.”
I see this evidence for my idea of the group mind. Others must have thought of using Luke 19:27 as a justification for murder, yet few if any have done so, so it’s clear that a great many individual and independent choices not to read it that way have been made. Taken collectively, this is the group mind at work.
In other news, but still on the topic of assassins, here’s the manifesto of the Aryan shield maiden Samantha Rupnow. Evidently she was quite a prodigy — only 15 years old and yet already perceiving that people are scum, life is war, and hate powers the universe! Ave soror, atque vale!
https://channel2now.com/2024/12/16/article/news/crime/abundant-life-christian-school-shooter-natalie-rupnows-full-manifesto-revealed/
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Nice reference. Bill Moseley of course is channeling Charlie Manson’s pal Charles “Tex” Watson: “I’m the devil, and I’m here to do the devil’s business.”
A great film, but it must also be understood that in the Firefly Family Rob Zombie is giving us an allegory about the Jewish subversion and takeover of White societies, as was argued by the guy who called himself “Banned Hipster” before disappearing. Hmmm.
I never heard of Banned Hipster until seeing your comment. The guy makes sense to me:
Banned Hipster predicted Biden’s bombing future. This post is from November of 2020:
Parasites always get to the stage of over-exploitation. In the 1960s or so, French revolutionaries used to call the solution direct action. In India, over-exploitation has made this a sporadic event by “Naxalites” or many decades.
James J. O’Meara: “Nice reference. Bill Moseley of course is channeling Charlie Manson’s pal Charles “Tex” Watson: “I’m the devil, and I’m here to do the devil’s business.””
It’s clear that Rob Zombie wanted the audience to see Otis as a psychopathic Christ. He’s got the beard and long hair of Nordic Jesus, though of course dirtier as we’d expect of a psychopathic murderer. Later in the movie, Otis is even “crucified” by the Sheriff, who drives nails into his hands, nailing him to a chair; then he sets the house on fire. There’s also the Last Supper poster:
James J. O’Meara: “A great film, but it must also be understood that in the Firefly Family Rob Zombie is giving us an allegory about the Jewish subversion and takeover of White societies … ”
Of course, EVERYTHING is “an allegory for the Jewish subversion and takeover of White societies” if we analyze it closely enough. I have my doubts that Rob Zombie worries much about Jews though.
“Of course, EVERYTHING is “an allegory for the Jewish subversion and takeover of White societies” if we analyze it closely enough.”
This isn’t a million miles removed from Wyatt Stagg’s thesis, for him the defining metanarrative of all Western media is the (self-)destruction of the European race. His arguments are compelling imo.
On whether the recent shooters were influenced by you, I would say that I read Kaczynski years before I found your posts iirc. “Uncle Ted” is a well-known figure in “far-right” circles. I think Keith Woods made a video criticising him and he’s often been mentioned on 4chan. I saw some quasi-feminist/nationalist influencer mention him on Twitter the other day. All of my closest friends have heard of him and most likely would have done if not for me anyway.
This isn’t to downplay the quality of your writings. You bring compelling alternative perspectives to the table compared to the vast majority of the “far-right”. I think the main ones are technological progress as a more vital factor than Jewish conspiracy and the role of European agency, which the “far-right” tends to deny. I do think though that it’s nuanced though. If you are raised from birth in a toxic environment, propagandised early and often and even attacked bio-chemically, it can break the will before there’s any chance to resist, for virtually everyone.
NEETzschean: “On whether the recent shooters were influenced by you, I would say that I read Kaczynski years before I found your posts iirc. “Uncle Ted” is a well-known figure in “far-right” circles.”
Yeah, everyone knows about TK. He’s the guy in the hoodie, wearing the mirror sunglasses, the mad bomber. TK may be well-known as a name, and as a meme, but his ideas are less well-known. You and I, I think, are an exception, in that we’ve actually studied them a bit. TK failed in his main mission to get people to take his ideas seriously. Only a relative few people were provoked to read ISAIF immediately after its publication, and fewer still read or discuss him or his ideas today. In racist circles, I have been his primary exponent on the internet for many years, and yet the number of people I’ve encountered during all this time who expressed a serious interest in ISAIF and its application to the racial struggle I could count on the fingers of one hand. So I find it very … suspicious, shall we say … that suddenly, when I and I alone am posting about TK and ISAIF on UR, Mangione should take it into his head to read and review TK’s book. Even more suspicious is Samantha Rupnow’s interest in TK. He’s not a school shooter, nor is he any kind of Nazi, neo or otherwise. If anything, he could be considered a leftist on racial matters, and, like me, he’s old enough to be her great grandfather, so he’s not a love interest of hers. I would readily admit that she might have heard of TK, but why would she seek out an obscure interview he did? And then leave that quote from it tacked onto the end of her manifesto? That, along with her perspective on hate, scum, and war, which seem to echo what I’ve been saying here on Unz in eerily similar terms, make me think she might have read my comments and been influenced by them. If she didn’t get this stuff from me, then who else could it be? Nobody. And would a fifteen year old girl come to these conclusions all by herself? That doesn’t strike me as likely.
Of course, there’s no way to know for sure without access to her internet history. The reach of Unz Review might be longer than anyone suspects!