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Speaking at a San Francisco fundraiser in 2008, Barack Obama sought to explain the reluctance of working-class Pennsylvanians to rally to his cause.

“You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and … the jobs have been gone now for 25 years, and nothing’s replaced them.”

“And it’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment … as a way to explain their frustrations.”

Translation: The world has left Middle America behind, and Middle America has reacted by clinging to its bibles, bigotries and guns.

Eight years later, Hillary Clinton was the Democratic nominee and, at a fundraiser in New York, addressed the same issue:

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? … The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic — you name it.”

“Now, some of those folks — they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America.”

Last week, President Joe Biden addressed the same issue. But it was not with an off-the-cuff remark that our president revealed his thoughts.

At Independence Hall in Philadelphia, whence came the Declaration of Independence and Constitution, and flanked by two U.S. Marines, Biden described the Middle Americans of 2022. Only now they’re known as “MAGA Republicans,” and no more anti-American assemblage is to be imagined.

In a speech he labored on for days, the president described that half of the Republican Party he sees as wedded to “semi-fascism.”

“The Republican Party today is dominated, driven and intimidated by Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans. And that is a threat to this country.”

“MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our Republic.”

“MAGA forces … promote authoritarian leaders, and they fan the flames of political violence that are a threat to our personal rights, to the pursuit of justice, to the rule of law, to the very soul of this country.”

“MAGA forces are determined to take this country backwards — backwards to an America where there is no right to choose, no right to privacy, no right to contraception, no right to marry who you love.”

Biden is here hypocritically denouncing as “backward” moral stands championed by his own Catholic faith — opposition to abortion and same-sex marriage — that he himself held not so long ago.

Biden went on:

“MAGA Republicans do not respect the Constitution. They do not believe in the rule of law. They do not recognize the will of the people. They refuse to accept the results of a free election.”

“MAGA Republicans … embrace anger. They thrive on chaos. They live, not in the light of truth but in the shadow of lies.”

“MAGA Republicans look at America and see carnage and darkness and despair. They spread fear and lies. Lies told for profit and power.”

“MAGA Republicans … are destroying American democracy.”

On Labor Day, Biden returned to the theme:

“Extreme MAGA Republicans … embrace political violence … (and) defend the mob that stormed the Capitol. And people died.”

This is the place at which Biden has arrived, 19 months into a presidency that began with his commitment to bring America together:

“Today, on this January day, my whole soul is in this: Bringing America together. Uniting our people. And uniting our nation. I ask every American to join me in this cause.”

ORDER IT NOW

After 19 months in office, Biden has given up on that cause, for a new cause. The name of the game now is an old one: divide et impera, divide and conquer. Biden hopes to split “mainstream Republicans” off from “MAGA Republicans” and demonize the latter as intolerable allies or partners in our democracy.

Indeed, the catalogue of sins and crimes Biden attributes to MAGA Republicans — extremism, violence, mendacity, authoritarianism — not only raises a question as to the state of the soul of the nation; it raises a question of its continuance as a democratic republic.

At his first rally following the Biden diatribe, Trump called the president “an enemy of the state” and Biden’s speech, “the most vicious, hateful and divisive … ever delivered by an American president.”

In an earlier time, this exchange between the two presidents might have been settled with pistols at dawn.

A house divided against itself cannot stand, said Abraham Lincoln, invoking a biblical truth. While the attributes and conduct Biden attributes to MAGA Republicans may not be such as to make a civil war inevitable, they surely do raise the question of whether our republic ought to endure or to be dissolved.

Indeed, Biden should be asked what differentiates MAGA Republicans who back Trump, given the crimes Biden listed, from the Black Shirts who accompanied Benito Mussolini on the March on Rome?

Does Biden believe MAGA Republicans are as sincere in their beliefs and the methods they espouse to advance those beliefs, as Biden himself, Nancy Pelosi and Kamala Harris are in theirs?

And if so, what do we have left in common?

Patrick J. Buchanan is the author of “Nixon’s White House Wars: The Battles That Made and Broke a President and Divided America Forever.”

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  1. Franz says:

    Put a POSITIVE spin on it, Pat.

    On Labor Day a Democrat President told the working whitefolk of the USA he thinks they’re the enemy.

    Republicans have been saying the same since Bill Buckley started saying the same back in the 1950s.

    So we’re in Chesty Puller territory: “They got us surrounded. GREAT! We can hit them no matter which way we shoot.”

    Makes it better, eh?

    •�Agree: GomezAdddams
  2. Biden hopes to split “mainstream Republicans” off from “MAGA Republicans” and demonize the latter as intolerable allies or partners in our democracy.

    Orange Man is not Republican. Liz Cheney is Republican. Orange Man has something the Republicans don’t have. 77 million voters. The Democrats and Republicans will have to either steal or prevent the elections.

    What do the Democrats and Republicans have in common with the Deplorables? I would like to say “our humanity”. But we have nothing in common. That’s why I am a Separatist.

    •�Replies: @Realist
  3. anonymous[206] •�Disclaimer says:

    I was a Buckley Republican before the Persian Gulf War. Pat Buchanan and Joe Sobran opened my eyes to the schtick patriotism encapsulating the lethal Israel-first meme. It’s been a brilliant psy op for recruiting Americans to die and be maimed so good Jewish boys need not be bothered, as well as pay for Israel’s wars of hegemony over the ME. Sean Hannity should be tried for treason as the most highly paid agent of Israel at some $40 million a year. Instead, his show is supported by charities begging for money from working class Americans to care for the young Americans whose arms and legs were blown off largely due to Hannity’s beating the war drums for Israel.

    I vote Republican but loath the party. Their assent by inaction—the crocodile tears and handwringing for the cameras, as well as their deference to unconstitutional court decisions—has had the effect over the past seventy-five years of endorsing every move leftward as the new status quo.

    The claim that Republicans dance to the tune of Big Pharma or the MIC (fill in the blank) is eye wash intended to conceal Jewish control. In the run up to the 2020 elections, Forbes ran a series of articles listing the sixty or seventy billionaires whose donations control both parties. When bloggers pointed out that all but two or three were Zionist Jews, the articles disappeared.

    This is the party who enacted the Democrats’ budget when the former controlled it all on the coattails of DJT. Of course McCarthy and McConnell hate Trump—he exposed these whores as compliant stooges of Jewish money whose record is betraying Middle America. From what I can see, McCarthy and McConnell cleverly have the RINOs vote with the Democrats on transformative issues so the rest of the Republicans, who voted those RINOs into leadership in the first place, can wring their hands back home and say they did all they can.

    One of the strangest developments since 9/11 is the disingenuous requirement on the right for demonstrative proof, requiring every piece of evidence be conclusive or be ruled inadmissible. Obviously, less-than-conclusive pieces of evidence can be added to strongly support a conclusion, yet this obvious rule is ruled out because it leads directly to Israel’s responsibility for 9/11. This in turn leads directly to the Republicans’ and Fox News’ treason for their elaborate efforts at concealing Israel’s guilt.

    With this level of treason at the most fundamental level of trust, no restoration is possible. Voting Republican isn’t voting for the lesser of two evils—it’s legitimizing the evil done in our name every day. Seventy-five years of betrayal proves Jewish money ensures that every move leftward by the Democrats becomes the new status quo. Also, no further proof is needed that Jews own the party beyond the Republican refusal to do anything about the Jewish-driven transgendering of confused children—those Americans you’d think are most deserving of the Republicans’ protection. Even pre-teen girls and boys are being sexually mutilated in grinning mockery of their parents impotence, which is a direct consequence of Republican inaction.

    And what about the many tens of $billions being sent to support Israel’s proxy war against Russia with the goal of depopulating the Ukraine and, as Zalensky publicly announced, turning the Ukraine into the center of a new Greater Israel? Did Zalensky say this or not? If he publicly announced this goal you’d think it stands unless retracted, giving further evidence of who’s ordering the Republicans to send tens of $billions to the Ukraine, with much of it disappearing into dark money circles that’ll probably end up being used to promote the next move beyond transgendering.

    •�Replies: @Greta Handel
  4. George 1 says:

    Biden’s speech was no less than a call to war on most white people. The U.S. government has been in a war on white people for some time now Biden just said the quite part out loud. He is encouraging ANTIFA and BLM to attack white people. He is also sending a message to all of the police agencies that they should mostly overlook the violence against whites.

    In many areas of the country today violence against white people is basically a civil right. It will get nothing but worse until ultimately the U.S. will become South Africa. Being optimistic there. I believe it will be much worse the South Africa because if not checked complete white genocide is the goal.

    •�Replies: @follyofwar
  5. @anonymous

    I vote Republican but loath the party.

    Write as much as makes you feel better, but those first three words are what count.

    Another notch in Mr. Buchanan’s Beltway.

    •�Agree: Realist
    •�Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Rurik
    , @GeneralRipper
  6. Orange Man

    Orange Man was taken to the White House by “Breitbar”

    In this photograph where Breitbar explains the origin of Breitbar we can see the son of BenZion seventy times seventy applauded in the Congress in Washington.

    BenZion was Jabotinsky’s right-hand man, founder of “our colonial project” (Jabotinsky)

  7. Americans in their False democracy can choose between the candidate of the Pharisee oligarchy and the candidate of the Sadducee oligarchy.

    •�Thanks: nokangaroos
  8. Anonymous[206] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Greta Handel

    Oy vey, GH, such cleverness, like I never seen. Voting Republican in local elections is very important—a moral duty. Voting for DJT or Ron DeSantis for president is the same.

    •�Replies: @Kal-Zakath
  9. Jokem says:

    Biden and his friends say pretty much the opposite of the truth…

  10. Joe Biden Pushes WHITE GENOCIDE

    Joe Biden is a politician whore for the Cheap Labor Faction of the US Congress.

    Joe Biden pushes mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and REFUGEE OVERLOAD and ASYLUM SEEKER INUNDATION.

    I challenge Joe Biden and Kamala Harris to a debate on mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and monetary policy and foreign policy and American national identity and financialization and globalization and the increasing concentration of wealth and power in the USA.

    Mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration increases income inequality, lowers wages, increases housing costs, swamps schools, overwhelms hospitals, increases poverty, harms the environment and destroys cultural cohesion.

  11. The Biden Asset Bubble in stocks and bonds and real estate — commercial and residential — will implode with tremendous force and it will dislodge from power the evil and treasonous JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire.

    Joe Biden — politician globalizer whore — has been backing every asset bubble ever created since 1971 by the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank, and Biden will preside over the mother and father of all asset bubble implosions when the Biden Asset Bubble breaks and the White Upper Middle Class sits in the suburbs and moans.

    When the Biden Asset Bubble breaks, mama, the JEW/WASP Ruling Class is gonna move.

    When the Biden Asset Bubble breaks, the JEW/WASP Ruling Class is gonna weep and moan.

    When the Biden Asset Bubble breaks, the White Upper Middle Class is gonna sit in the suburbs and moan over unrealized phantom asset bubble gains.

    FINANCIALLY LIQUIDATE THE WHITE UPPER MIDDLE CLASS SNOT BRATS NOW

    TEN PERCENT FEDERAL FUNDS RATE NOW

    FIRE SALE THE FED’S ASSET PORTFOLIO NOW

    QUANTITATIVE TIGHTENING NOW

    NATIONALIZE THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK NOW

  12. @George 1

    I think that TPTB in the demoncrat party know something that we deplorables don’t. They are now so confident of winning the midterms that they sent Biden out to give his divisive speech. Why else would they allow him to do it? They are evil people but certainly not stupid. With no excuse mail in voting, which was supposed to be,a temporary measure due to the Covid hoax, they have rigged the system. And the hapless R’s did little to nothing since the presidential election to stop to it.

    This talk of a ‘Red Wave’ in November, a favorite talking point on Fox news, was premature and self-destructive, leading the red team into complacency and over-confidence. Why work to get out the vote when we got this in the bag?

    Sorry you fervent anti-abortionists (like Buchanan), but the polls turned around when the SC overturned Roe v Wade. Millions of female votes were lost when Alito wrote his decision. You could say that the Court only sent abortion back to the states, but pro-choice women aren’t buyin’ such nuances. The R’s in the state houses have compounded the disaster by authoring total bans and invasive heartbeat bills.You won the battle but are losing the war, all because

  13. I think that TPTB in the democrat party know something that we deplorables don’t. They are now so confident of winning the midterms that they sent Biden out to give his divisive speech. Why else would they allow him to do it? They are evil people but certainly not stupid. No-excuse mail-in voting (which has already started in some states) was sold as a temporary Covid measure, but the hapless R’s did little to nothing since the stolen presidential election to stop it.

    This talk of a coming ‘Red Wave’ in November, a favorite talking point on Fox news, was premature and self-destructive, leading the red team into complacency and over-confidence. Why work to get out the vote when we got this in the bag?

    Sorry you fervent anti-abortionists (like Buchanan), but the polls started turning around when the SC overturned Roe v Wade. Millions of female votes were lost when Samuel Alito wrote his decision. You could say that the Court only sent abortion back to the states, but pro-choice women aren’t buyin’ such nuances.

    The R’s in the state houses have compounded the disaster by signing total bans and invasive fetal heartbeat bills into law. R presidents prior to Trump used Roe as a great talking point and fund raiser but did nothing to overturn it. But Trump made opposition to Roe a litmus test for his 3 nominees. R’s won that battle but are losing the war, as they become a permanent minority party. They don’t call Republicans the Stupid Party for nothing.

    •�Replies: @heymrguda
  14. @follyofwar

    A glitch led to this comment appearing. It shouldn’t be here. My next comment is the one that I intended.

  15. heymrguda says:
    @follyofwar

    Agreed, the talk of a red wave in November has been accepted as a given by the Right for months now. Overreaction to Roe has played right into the left’s hands. Can’t add anything else to what you’ve said.

    Runoffs in NY and Alaska don’t look good. Question is, if we can’t win now, with the shape the economy and the country is in, when can we?

    •�Agree: follyofwar
    •�Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  16. Realist says:
    @WorkingClass

    The Democrats and Republicans will have to either steal or prevent the elections.

    The Democrats and Republicans you speak of constitute the political charade of the Deep State.

  17. Realist says:
    @follyofwar

    I think that TPTB in the demoncrat party know something that we deplorables don’t. They are now so confident of winning the midterms that they sent Biden out to give his divisive speech. Why else would they allow him to do it? They are evil people but certainly not stupid.

    Yes, the Deep State is planning on almost total control of the United States by year’s end. The changes in this country will be horrendous.

    •�Agree: follyofwar, Enemy of Earth
  18. Rurik says:
    @Greta Handel

    I vote Republican but loath the party.

    Write as much as makes you feel better, but those first three words are what count.

    Another notch in Mr. Buchanan’s Beltway.

    I (like to think) I would slog though the valley of death itself, to vote against someone like Liz Cheney, et al

    I just wrote a comment on 9/11, and the kind of people who perpetrated it, and what they’ve wrought, and what their intentions are

    Suggesting the Cheney family, (and the Bush/Clinton junta of treason and murder that they’re part of), is of no consequence, if faced with an alternative (ANY alternative), is very wrong headed. IMHO.

    Even Trump, (yes, Trump!), would be preferable to Liz Cheney, or Stacy Abrams, et al.

    If you can’t see that, perhaps it is because your ideology makes no distinction between Cheney vs. Rand Paul, (or someone else, for instance), and I for the record, simply consider that perspective as misguided, in that case. (to say the least!).

    Liz Cheney represents total war for Israel, and every scintilla of American resources, including especially the working class young man), as not just expendable to that end, but the best possible way to squander such worthless and anti-semetic lives.

    As by doing so, will exalt none other than Liz Cheney to Churchillian heights of “statesmanship” and official history book accolades/wealth and (most of all) power.

    She’s the closest thing to Hillary, (ironically even in appearance) that we’re damned with.

    And the greatest day I’ve ever known in my short (relatively speaking, but long otherwise) life, was the day Donald J. Trump humiliated Hillary Clinton, and caused a rift in the space-time continuum, by the sheer galactic magnitude of Hillary’s existential woe.

    Such was her lust (and feelings of entitlement) for power.

    Maybe the election didn’t matter to you, but it did to them

    and to the rest of us

    And now we have Liz, to relive that glorious moment, over and over and over, with her every grinding, murderous snarl at MAGA

    I even think Brandon’s recent temper-tantrum over MAGA, was really written by a David Frum-like neocon, still smarting over Liz Cheney’s historic and humiliating rout.

    Because it wasn’t a rout of Liz per se, (who they personally couldn’t give a fuck about) but of the neocon vision that has had this nation by the throat for over twenty years now, and they see MAGA as a threat to it all, and therefor a threat to Israel’s continued ascendancy over the planet.

    That’s why Brandan was calling MAGA an enemy of America, not because MAGA repudiates BLM and transgender kindergartners, but because MAGA repudiated Liz Cheney = (eternal wars for Israel).

    That’s why their panties are in a twist. Poor David Frum. Hey Frummy, call David French and get Liz on the phone, and commiserate about those evil white, American working class Nazis who never change!!

    They’re EVIL, and REFUSE to DIE for ISRAEL!!!!

    •�Replies: @heymrguda
  19. heymrguda says:
    @Rurik

    I think you’re absolutely right about this. I’ve noticed a tendency on dissident or alt right sites for posters to adopt an either/or, all or nothing approach to personalities, such as the example you gave, rand Paul vs Liz Cheney. Dwight D. Eisenhower kept us of a war for 8 years, presided over a prosperous nation, stopped illegal immigration and tried to warn us of the dangers of the MIC. To many commentators he’s worse than LBJ. Since Trump was a disappointment in many ways he’s no better than the disaster that’s been the Biden presidency.

    Many of us throw up our hands in frustration and say the Reps are no different than the Dems. As satisfying as that may be, and true in many issues, it’s not always true. In the senate vote over the inflation reduction act all 50 republicans voted nay, including Romney and Susan Collins (R-Me).

    But frankly, whatever the outcome of the midterms or 2024, I think it’s already too late.

    •�Replies: @follyofwar
    , @Rurik
  20. Deplorables abroad receive the same treatment.

    “Mad Brute” and “Ivan Drago” clickbait caricatures of Russians, can be seen on fellowship of fake news outlets.

    Disdain for plebs, kin, and country is unique to Anglos and cultural derivatives. It is just snobbery.

    Moreover, in today’s world of protected species and a hierarchy thereof, only certain groups can be jeered without serious consequences.

  21. I would only note that this particular speech, despite being in prime time, was not broadcast on any major news network.

    It was twitter-bait for the chattering classes, but more importantly, it was broadcast in Europe.

    It seems O’Biden and the 30 year old commies that prop up Biden (and his holograms and fake versions) wanted to send a message to the EU/WEF/Davos cronies while riling up the leftist most supporters the POTUS has, likely in preparation for the November elections.

    Shamelessly cynical would be too kind a description of the speech. My compliments to our esteemed author, who noted it was also an effort to pry some elements of the GOPe off from the Trump-wing of the party. Politico (the swamp’s official race sheet) had an insider explain the reason for the speech, and some GOPe swamp creature was quoted in response. The GOPe swamp critter wasn’t angry at the content of the speech, but the reason he would not support the President’s agenda was because of the tone.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/03/biden-speech-democracy-trump-maga-00054764

    •�Replies: @Bill Jones
  22. @heymrguda

    Good for the R senators who voted against Biden’s pro-Inflation Act. But they knew it was a lost cause, as are all R attempts to slow down the D juggernaut. The D’s all vote in lockstep with their leaders, regardless of what they say when campaigning. The VP decides a 50/50 vote.

    A good example of D group think is when they all, to a person, voted for Biden’s 36-billion-dollar giveaway to Ukraine AOC and the squad could have distinguished themselves from the rest of the D lemmings by voting against, but were afraid to get out of line, as they would have been punished by TPTB.

    And the R’s are just part of the scam. RINO McConnell is responsible for losing the Senate (2 seats in Georgia went D in close elections), yet, amazingly, he remains their leader, and will be until he finally dies. Since they refuse to get rid of the man who cost them their majority, the R’s are not a serious opposition party. It’s why so many sided with D’s in their successful plan to eliminate Trump.

  23. Anonymous[681] •�Disclaimer says:

    This is a new out-of-touch personal best for our favorite statist dotard Pat. He’s enraged at liberal elites. When the totalitarian state that purged his boss Nixon brought Camp No home. The CIA regime overtly breaching CAT Article 1 with domestic torture cowards. Banned chemical weapons used on restrained prisoners.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/jan-6-prisoners-and-families-expose-brutal-truth-about-jail-lockdown

    Pat. What is the point of your life? If you can’t comprehend this grave state crime you might as well take your midazolam.

  24. Rurik says:
    @heymrguda

    Since Trump was a disappointment in many ways he’s no better than the disaster that’s been the Biden presidency.

    yep

    I suspect it goes to a certain amount of rancor, when people feel they have been betrayed, and so even tho they know the Dems hate their guts and want them castrated and then killed, the Repubs were supposed to be on their side, but then like Trump, as he so often betrayed them, their anger is even greater for the GOP, due to the understandable feelings of betrayal.

    We all expect Maxine Waters and Adam Schiff and AOC to work feverishly for the death of the American middle class, but what’s vexing, is when Trump and McConnell and McCarty are doing the same thing.

    But the reality is that it is all controlled by shekels, as it all has been for thousands of years. The American voter is not going to change that, unless he demands the end of the ((Fed)). Which he’s too busy earning a living to figure out, and so as you point out, ‘it’s already too late.

    Get out if you can to Eastern Europe or South America. Chile just voted out wokeness with huge margins. Portugal is looking good. Or, baring that, get to rural America, and grow your food, and join / create like-minded communities, that will take a jaundiced view of liberals from California moving in. Make them feel very unwelcome if they come snooping around. Don’t bring a cake to welcome them, but ask them if they need any shotgun shells, as you sell them on the side. Wear your MAGA hat at all times, just to let them all know what kind of community they’re thinking about moving into.

    That’s one way that the MAGA meme is very good, in expressing your contempt for shitlib wokeness, and the Liz Cheney brand of neo-“conservatives”.

    Find a county with a MAGA sheriff. That’s a good start.

    Yes, the MAGA politicians will betray us all for shekels, that’s just how it works. But the MAGA people are the best there are.

  25. @follyofwar

    no, follyofwar….

    it doesn’t makes a rat’s ass bit of difference

    whether the democrat faction of ZOG

    or the republican faction of ZOG

    wins the next fake election

    or the one after…

    or the one after….

    or….etc.

    •�Disagree: follyofwar
  26. @heymrguda

    Overreaction to Roe…

    Who “overreacted”? Roe was arguably the most arrogant power grab by the Supreme Court in its history. (Obergefell gives it a run for its money.) Blackmun was the overreactor. It was also poorly written– essentially cobbled together, according to historian Daniel K Williams— so it’s remarkable that it survived for so long.

    Note that the anti-abortionists– which included the vast majority of Americans before 1965– are the same people who kept the ERA out of the Constitution. Your “prochoicers” wanted it in. (They’re also anti-choice on everything else.)

    Patriotic people don’t want their next generation aborted. Why is that so hard to understand?

    •�Replies: @follyofwar
  27. @follyofwar

    There is nothing more “ZOG” than legal elective abortion. They want your daughter to abort your grandchild.

    The Poles have it right.

  28. heymrguda says:

    I was in favor of overturning Roe. The issue should be for the states to decide and the more power that devolves to the states, the better. But yes, I think there are issues confronting the country that take precedence over abortion and the preoccupation with that issue is diluting the intensity needed to deal with the others. It would have been nice if the court had waited until after the midterms to make that ruling.

    •�Agree: follyofwar
  29. @Reg Cæsar

    My point was neither pro nor anti-abortion. I’m kind of agnostic on the subject and think that a compromise of some kind could be reached if cooler heads prevailed.

    What so many who oppose abortion from time of conception don’t understand is that, if the democrats keep their majority in the coming elections as a result of the SCOTUS decision, they have already promised to codify Roe into federal law next year. In other words, overturning Roe, while making pro-lifers ecstatic, could wind up being just a Pyrrhic victory.

    •�Replies: @Greta Handel
  30. @follyofwar

    This isn’t a big issue with me, either. But I do have a general interest in judicial and executive overreach, and its enabling by invertebrate legislators.

    So, how can the Congress purport to

    codify Roe into federal law

    if the recent decision (re)established that abortion is left to state-by-state legal address under the Constitution?

    Not arguing, at least for now. Just asking.

    •�Replies: @Rurik
    , @follyofwar
  31. Middle or CORE or Middle American Radical or White Core American or European Christian ancestral core or British Protestant settler nation-state or White Christian America or anything else as long as it talks about demography and race and ancestry and the historic American nation.

    Donald Warren was the guy who coined the term Middle American Radicals(MARs)and then Sam Francis picked that up and wrote more about it.

    John Judis — The Return of the Middle American Radical — from October 2 2015 — portion of article:

    In 1976, Don­ald War­ren—a so­ci­olo­gist from Oak­land Uni­versity in Michigan who would die two dec­ades later without ever at­tain­ing the rank of full pro­fess­or—pub­lished a book called The Rad­ic­al Cen­ter: Middle Amer­ic­ans and the Polit­ics of Ali­en­a­tion. Few people have read or heard of it—I learned of it about 30 years ago from the late, very ec­cent­ric pa­leo­con­ser­vat­ive Samuel Fran­cis—but it is, in my opin­ion, one of the three or four books that best ex­plain Amer­ic­an polit­ics over the past half-cen­tury.

    While con­duct­ing ex­tens­ive sur­veys of white voters in 1971 and again in 1975, War­ren iden­ti­fied a group who de­fied the usu­al par­tis­an and ideo­lo­gic­al di­vi­sions. These voters were not col­lege edu­cated; their in­come fell some­where in the middle or lower-middle range; and they primar­ily held skilled and semi-skilled blue-col­lar jobs or sales and cler­ic­al white-col­lar jobs. At the time, they made up about a quarter of the elect­or­ate. What dis­tin­guished them was their ideo­logy: It was neither con­ven­tion­ally lib­er­al nor con­ven­tion­ally con­ser­vat­ive, but in­stead re­volved around an in­tense con­vic­tion that the middle class was un­der siege from above and be­low.

    War­ren called these voters Middle Amer­ic­an Rad­ic­als, or MARS. “MARS are dis­tinct in the depth of their feel­ing that the middle class has been ser­i­ously neg­lected,” War­ren wrote. They saw “gov­ern­ment as fa­vor­ing both the rich and the poor sim­ul­tan­eously.” Like many on the left, MARS were deeply sus­pi­cious of big busi­ness: Com­pared with the oth­er groups he sur­veyed—lower-in­come whites, middle-in­come whites who went to col­lege, and what War­ren called “af­flu­ents”—MARS were the most likely to be­lieve that cor­por­a­tions had “too much power,” “don’t pay at­ten­tion,” and were “too big.” MARS also backed many lib­er­al pro­grams: By a large per­cent­age, they favored gov­ern­ment guar­an­tee­ing jobs to every­one; and they sup­por­ted price con­trols, Medi­care, some kind of na­tion­al health in­sur­ance, fed­er­al aid to edu­ca­tion, and So­cial Se­cur­ity.

    On the oth­er hand, they held very con­ser­vat­ive po­s­i­tions on poverty and race. They were the least likely to agree that whites had any re­spons­ib­il­ity “to make up for wrongs done to blacks in the past,” they were the most crit­ic­al of wel­fare agen­cies, they re­jec­ted ra­cial bus­ing, and they wanted to grant po­lice a “heav­ier hand” to “con­trol crime.” They were also the group most dis­trust­ful of the na­tion­al gov­ern­ment. And in a stand that wasn’t really lib­er­al or con­ser­vat­ive (and that ap­peared, at least on the sur­face, to be in ten­sion with their dis­like of the na­tion­al gov­ern­ment), MARS were more likely than any oth­er group to fa­vor strong lead­er­ship in Wash­ing­ton—to ad­voc­ate for a situ­ation “when one per­son is in charge.”

    If these voters are be­gin­ning to sound fa­mil­i­ar, they should: War­ren’s MARS of the 1970s are the Don­ald Trump sup­port­ers of today. Since at least the late 1960s, these voters have peri­od­ic­ally co­alesced to be­come a force in pres­id­en­tial polit­ics, just as they did this past sum­mer. In 1968 and 1972, they were at the heart of George Wal­lace’s pres­id­en­tial cam­paigns; in 1992 and 1996, many of them backed H. Ross Perot or Pat Buchanan. Over the years, some of their is­sues have changed—il­leg­al im­mig­ra­tion has re­placed ex­pli­citly ra­cist ap­peals—and many of these voters now have ju­ni­or-col­lege de­grees and are as likely to hold white-col­lar as blue-col­lar jobs. But the ba­sic MARS world­view that War­ren out­lined has re­mained sur­pris­ingly in­tact from the 1970s through the present.

    https://carnegieendowment.org/2015/10/02/return-of-middle-american-radical-pub-61534

  32. @Greta Handel

    Well Greta, we’re waiting with bated breath for you ( and “Realist”…lol ) to unveil your Supreme Grandmaster Plan that’s gonna turn this shit around and bring back Happy Days with Ritchie and Potsie and Mr C etc…

    I have a very “realistic” attitude about voting. And I’ve had it long before the OBVIOUS, IN YOUR FACE FRAUD of the 2020 “election”.

    Voting is suspect to say the least, but still important on the local and State level. And huge turnouts in Federal Elections makes it much more of a chore for the dirty Leftist/Jew filth to complete their desired task. It makes it very obvious, as it was in 2020.

    To despair and to lose all hope, is to capitulate to evil completely.

    And that is the greatest sin of all.

    •�Replies: @Greta Handel
  33. Rurik says:
    @Greta Handel

    So, how can the Congress purport to

    codify Roe into federal law

    if the recent decision (re)established that abortion is left to state-by-state legal address under the Constitution?

    legally, it can’t

    but I hope they try, and demand that every state allow full abortions right up to, and including after a birth, because the right to choose, should not end just because the baby’s breathing.

    (not that I want any babies, born or otherwise to die. Of course not), but I’d like for them to try, because what this nation needs, more than anything, is the Great Separation. And with DC’s tyrannical ways, it will force the ‘invertebrate’ politicians in every state, to say ‘f__k you’ to the feds, or bow down and genuflect to federal (abuse of) power.

    In that way, assorted skanks and shitlibs and abortion providers, will flock to New Jersey and California, and leave Florida and Texas, for instance. Just as the few remaining decent folks left in Jersey or California, will hightail it to the Red States.

    As the states become more and more strident in their respective views, The Great Separation will codify its respective identities, as the feds try to grab more and more power.

    Soon, they’d write laws saying you can’t leave California, and take your money with you. You have to hand it all over to the state of California before you leave, and other such developments, as the shitlibs try desperately to get out of the dystopian hell holes that they created.

    Consider Colorado. A beautiful state, with millions of great people. But the shitlibs have been moving in, and taking it over, and destroying it for the rest of the residents, (which of course is what they do). So with The Great Separation, Colorado is either going to go Blue, or Red. In which case it will mean the decent folks will have to move out, or the shitlibs and thier pets will have to find greener pastures. And so forth.

    If I were a resident of Colorado, and was watching with horror and it descends into a San Francisco-type of woke hell on earth, I’d appreciate knowing where it was going to go, so that I could either get out, or settle in.

    But for all that to happen, we need The Great Separation. And AOC and Nancy are just the ones to give it to us.

    •�Replies: @Rurik
  34. @GeneralRipper

    Sir, “this shit” will never “turn around.” It just changes shape and color to keep you voting for it.

    I have no “Supreme Grandmaster Plan” except to have steered clear when it ever falls. If you want that day to come sooner, please consider no longer propping it up.

  35. @DCThrowback

    Compare last weeks Joe Biden to the one elected to the Senate.
    Did they just transplant the ears or splash out for the whole head?
    Inquiring minds want to know.

  36. Rurik says:
    @Rurik

    “If I were a resident of Colorado, and was watching with horror and it descends into a San Francisco-type of woke hell on earth, I’d appreciate knowing where it was going to go, so that I could either get out, or settle in.

    But for all that to happen, we need The Great Separation”.

    Case in point, this just in from PCR

    the latest Rasmussen Poll. The poll tested the US population on its response to President Biden’s assertion that

    “Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic.”

    The poll results are:

    48% of likely U.S. voters agree with Biden including 36% who Strongly Agree. Forty-seven percent (47%) disagree with Biden including 39% who Strongly Disagree.

    https://www.unz.com/proberts/for-all-americans-who-think-they-still-have-a-country-here-is-bad-news/

    Now, if you’re residing in Colorado, and you earn your living, and believe in gender, and (heaven help you) are white, then do you want to have neighbors who believe that you’re an evil Nazi racist, anti-woman homophobe, transphobe, and right-wing domestic terrorist?

    Those are the people who’re going to be voting for the school board, and governor, and assorted politicians like the local DA, who will free on sight every black and brown criminal, as a victim of systemic racism, while he puts your son in prison for beating up a car-jacker trying to steal his car.

    These are the people who’re going to be taking care of your parents at the assisted living facility. Or working at the local restaurant, preparing your food. Or at the hospital, when you need compassion. And you’ll get the opposite.

    Do you want drag-queen hour at your local nursery school? Because if you don’t, these people will demand that you’re an evil bigot, and should have your rights and guns and free-speech taken away.

    That’s the kind of country they’re creating, just like they did in Wiemar Germany. Where the elites helped themselves to the German children as amusements, and pushed a homosexual deviancy on the culture.

    Now it’s here, America. And you’re in for a rude awakening. Because like those guys in Georgia, who were convicted of murder for filming a black man, who attacked a white man, the guy with the camera was convicted of murder, simply because he was a white guy, and therefor a guilty racist who deserves prison for the rest of his racist life. That’s the country we’re living in.

    Pure and simple, America.

    The only solution is The Great Separation, and the best way to achieve that, is with states rights.

    Texas needs to send them ALL to New York City. Florida needs to crack down hard, and then if some federal judge says no, then send them all straight to his house. Let the federal judge feed and house them. Let the Soros DA take in the rapist, and give him sanctuary in his house, next to his daughter’s bedroom.

    (I’m doing therapy here, so give me some slack ; )

    things are going to get waayyy worse, before they ever get better. The America of our childhood and youth is dead and in its grave. It’s been ((murdered)), and us boomers, (like the “greatest” generation) have betrayed our children, with our damnable bovine moral cowardice, and infinite venality.

    Now we have to live with what we’ve wrought, and more to the point, watch as our white children are hated and persecuted and worse, because we were too busy watching the game on the Talmudvision, to pay attention to what was being done.

    I just wish all the horrors that are down the pike, would visit the shitlibs, rather than the decent folks. But alas, it will visit them all.

    •�Replies: @Kal-Zakath
  37. @Rurik

    Nope. The conservative peasants will suffer – the Superior Liberal Rich, whom the conservatives stupidly, dick-lessly, sneeringly and mindlessly keep voting for, will just fine.

    Cry more. Moan more.

    It will good practice for your future occupation. Be sure to get some lip balm and kneepads.

    •�Replies: @Rurik
  38. @Greta Handel

    Though I’m not a lawyer, my understanding is that Congress, with the president’s signature, can pass any law it wants irrespective of a prior Supreme Court decision. The Constitution makes the Congress, for good or ill, the most powerful of the 3 branches of government. If it was prevented from passing a new law, we’d have judicial tyranny, which we mostly have anyway.

    If certain injured parties (with standing) wanted to contest that new law, they’d have to start the process to overturn the law in court all over again, which could take years. That’s my understanding, anyway, though I’d like to get the opinion of a few lawyers who might be reading.

    •�Replies: @Greta Handel
  39. @follyofwar

    Thanks. I think you’re correct.

    But the notion just gets blurted, with no apparent contemplation of the consequent lawsuit, likely preliminary relief, and ultimate invalidation by the SCOTUS (unless some robed penumbralators are replaced in the meantime with those who see different things between the lines).

    I take the whole thing less seriously with passage of time. (So do they — Congress hasn’t declared war since 1941.) The Establishment will do what it wants, the three hands — aka “branches” — washing themselves and using the Constitution as a towel to the extent necessary to maintain enough credulous voters.

    •�Replies: @Dr. Merkvurkdigliebe
  40. Rurik says:
    @Kal-Zakath

    Cry more. Moan more.

    It will good practice for your future occupation. Be sure to get some lip balm and kneepads.

    Ahh, thank you for making my point, Kal-Zakath

    You see, once we have The Great Separation, your ilk will find the Red states very inhospitable.

    You and the homos and feminists and Jewish supremacists, are all going to be voting with your feet, as you move to states that still consider “diversity is our strength!” their battle cry.

    The very first thing that the Red states will do, by definition, is consider that mantra, Diversity is our strength’, as what it is, an insane expression of suicidal madness. Imposed by the enemies of America, as a way to destroy all that was once good and decent about this now dying country.

    But not to worry!

    You’re going to find more diversity in your new codified Blue states, than you could ever have dreamed of!

    There’s going to be transgendered activism and pedophile promotion enough to make a Bacha bazi dancing boy-loving Muslim as happy as a pig in shit. With not a Christian in sight!

    You’ll be in heaven! There won’t be one racist, productive white man or woman in the whole state to give you angst and feelings of envy and rage. You’ll finally, at long last be happy! Along with all the BLM activists and La Raza zealots, and yes, there will be white people, but they’re going to be of the homosexual variety, so sorry about the white woman thing, because in your blue states, they’re all going to be carpet munchers and fat, ugly, old hags, looking for some diversity to sniff their moldering holes. Nancy Pelosi will be there tho, if you’d prefer that kind of diversion. All for you, Kal-Zakath. You won’t even have to die in jihad to get your paradise. It’s all waiting for you in San Francisco and Chicago, Detroit, New Jersey and every other Blue state hamlet of climate justice and transgender utopia.

    I’m happy for you, just imagining it.

  41. @Greta Handel

    There have been two situations in the past 40 years that puzzle me. Ronald Reagan forced the states that had under 21 alcohol laws to raise them to 21. Those states, such as Louisiana, that balked at the idea were threatened with loss of highway funds. Much more recently, a law raising the age (to 21 also) for tobacco purchases was passed by Congress and signed by the President.

    Seeing that both substances are federally regulated by the ATF, how is one considered a state’s legislative issue while the other was a federal case?

    Anyone?

    •�Replies: @Rurik
  42. Rurik says:
    @Dr. Merkvurkdigliebe

    Seeing that both substances are federally regulated by the ATF, how is one considered a state’s legislative issue while the other was a federal case?

    Anyone?

    Unconstitutional, treasonous overreach of the federal government?

    Is the FBI in the Constitution? I think there’s a clause for interstate commerce, but I’m not aware of anything in the Constitution that allows for federal law enforcement. But just as our federal government is corrupt, so too has the Supreme Court been corrupt for generations now.

    All we have to do it look at the Civil War. Yes, slavery was an abomination against decency, but it was allowed when the Constitution was ratified, and so it was therefor up to the states to abolish it, (which in time, they would have). But the central motivating reason that the colonies all agreed to signing the Constitution, was that it was intrinsically understood that the authority of the Constitution came directly from the Consent of the Governed. And the second the free men of These United States, withheld that consent, was the second that the federal government lost every shred of its legal authority.

    The authority of the federal government was always supposed to be by consent, (and only by consent). The Civil War changed that forever, and made the power of the federal government one of compulsion / or death.

    Since then the Constitution has been toilet paper. But at least in nominal ways, it did help to maintain some rights, that otherwise would have by now been trampled on, just as they’re trying to trample on free-speech, and other ‘rights’, as I write this.

    The only rights we have from government, are the rights we’re willing to kill tyrants to maintain.

    And increasingly, the will and the mettle of the average American citizen to do what’s necessary to keep tyrants in their place, is very fast disappearing.

    (which is one reason I advocate for the Great Separation. If the Trump SC, can restore some states rights, it just might manifest into a nascent movement of what’s left of the good stock of America, to solidify into hamlets of freedom and decency, in our fast-dying republic).

    •�Thanks: Dr. Merkvurkdigliebe
  43. bert33 says:

    i see november as end of the line for many career democrats, some of whom might be looking at hard time once they leave office. we did not get to 30 trillion in debt by accident and cleaning up the mess will likewise be no accident and it will involve prohibition on insider trading by members of congress as well as permanent changes in how lobbyists do their business. trump the swamp drainer enjoyed wide support…

    •�Replies: @Jokem
  44. Jokem says:
    @bert33

    There are a lot of people who benefit from keeping things as they are, and they vote.

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