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It is no secret that America faces a very uncertain future heading into the November 5th elections. On one side are a desperate cadre of elites, criminals, and rabid cultists cowering at the fear of what a Trump electoral victory could mean for their exclusive clique which has run the American political system for at least the last century. On the other side are many ordinary Americans who have been driven to the edge domestically in all aspects of their lives by failed elitist policies and criminal enterprises sanctioned by the increasingly imperial government in Washington DC. It is a mercurial period which is bearing much resemblance to the lead-up of several flashpoints in American history, such as the conflicts in the 1770s, 1860s, and 1940s.

Into the midst of this volatile mixture has been thrust the news that state legislators in West Virginia have proposed legislation whereby the state will refuse to recognize the results of any presidential election it deems compromised. While the full ramifications of such a proposal have yet to make waves in the American political sphere, it was a proposed act of defiance on par with Texas defying Supreme Court orders to open the border earlier in the year. It is also an act which could provide a glimpse into what is coming after November 5th if the “unstoppable force meeting an immovable object†scenario plays out into any one of several previously unthinkable outcomes.

One of the Elites’ favorite mouthpieces, the New York Times, recently released a piece which was seen by many as a warning to the American people that vote rigging, electoral fraud, and manipulation would be going on in the upcoming election, just as it had in 2018, 2020, 2022 and 2023. This was accompanied by a number of other items raising suspicions. Stories emerged warning of potential mail-in balloting issues, and news that the postal unions (representing those individuals collecting mail-in ballots) were throwing their support behind the Democratic ticket. The return of the master election challenger in the legal realm and legal action taken by the DOJ against governors like Glenn Youngkin for trying to clean up their voting rolls also speaks of efforts to slow or stop any efforts to secure American elections. All this would seem to imply that the Elites are ensuring that electoral fraud plays a major role in yet another election season.

The general assumption among many is that the planned electoral fraud in this election cycle is meant to help ensure Donald Trump is defeated on election night, just as the 2020 effort did. Though a closer look at certain other details shows that there may be more to it than just stopping Trump this time. Trump’s support in the polls is far higher than it was in either 2016 or 2020. This has led to speculation that the sheer volume of votes for him could be enough to overwhelm the efforts to rig the votes against him in certain states. However, the Elites may be ready for that this time with backup plans ready for implementation.

Certain Democratic leaders have been openly admitting that they will likely refuse to certify the election in Trump’s favor if he wins the election night vote. This tactic would only work, however, if those refusing to certify held a majority in the House of Representatives. This then poses the question of whether the Elites may decide to focus on stealing control of Congress instead so as to thwart a Trump return to the White House through the certification process. The polls for the House seem to point to a Democrat advantage, and even if the Republicans do retain control, a slim enough majority would make it easy for a couple elitist Republicans to cross over and prevent a Trump return. The Senate is a close call also with questions as to whether Republican seats in states like Texas and Nebraska might not be ripe for an upset. When taken in conjunction with electoral fraud being a significant factor in this election, a strong possibility exists that the real steal on election night will focus on Congress rather than Trump.

There are other signs to indicate this may indeed be the first backup plan if Trump cannot be defeated in the vote count. The first is that Trump’s sentencing in the New York criminal case was moved to after the election on November 26th. The peculiar re-scheduling of that event would seem to suggest that the Elites might use his conviction and sentencing as justification for not certifying the election. The second is the existence of a bulletin issued from the DC intelligence community warning of widespread “election-related grievances†turning into violence from “domestic extremists.†Logically, the only reason for publication of such a bulletin would be the expectation of a significant backlash from disgruntled Americans who see themselves as robbed of the candidate they freely chose. The third, and perhaps most telling, sign is the security precautions being implemented for the Capitol on January 6th, 2025, the day the 2024 election results will be certified. It is a preparation rooted in fear and public image, and hints that those pulling strings in DC are expecting their actions on that date to be wildly unpopular with the general public.

Taken together, these facts seem to indicate the Elites’ first backup plan is disqualifying Trump through controlling Congress and refusing to certify his election. If that were to happen, the question would become: who would replace Trump? In that case, Congress could have two choices. The first choice would be to declare that the runner-up wins by default, putting Kamala Harris in power. The second choice would be to invoke the line of succession as laid out in the Presidential Succession Act of 1947. With the executive offices vacant due to the winning ticket being declared ineligible to serve, the Speaker of the House—in this case likely Hakeem Jeffries—would be promoted to the presidency. In either case, the people’s choice would be removed, and a clear indication given as to who holds the real power. Undoubtedly, the Elites believe that such a show of power would break the people’s defiance by showing them the futility of further electoral resistance.

What if the Elites fail to prevent a sweep on election night and Trump not only wins, but his party manages to win control of at least one house of Congress? Here again, it appears that the Elites have put pieces in place for yet another backup plan, namely a third edition of the Russia-gate narrative. It makes sense they would go this way as DC is currently engaged in a proxy war with Russia in eastern Europe, and the first two editions of Russia-gate in 2016 and 2020 worked so well in helping the Elites derail Trump and his agenda. Certain legal foundations for another Russia-gate investigation were laid in early 2024, and a narrative surrounding Russian interference in American internal affairs began to accelerate in the middle of the year. First, there was the Russians-paying-TENET-media story—which certain observers stated had all the indications of being a psy-op of some kind—to broadly paint all media not defending the Elites’ narrative as being stooges for Russia, specifically the Russian news service known as RT. This was followed by proclamations from DC of the dangers of the RT news channel and the need to wage war against it, despite the fact that it has already been banned in most of Europe and it’s reach into America is minimal at best. Then, in what is to date the crowning claim of all, journalist Bob Woodward has claimed in a new book that Trump and Putin have had at least seven phone calls since Trump left office in 2021. This claim has prompted comments from Elites like Susan Rice that Trump has violated the Logan Act, which could tie the whole third edition of the Russia-gate narrative together and give the Elites’ the political ammunition they need to remove Trump from office. It also could lead to widespread arrests of those in the alternative media sphere as agents of Russia and a crackdown on free speech which so many Elites have been calling for in the last several weeks.

The darkest backup plan the Elites seem to have in their list of options is that of resistance which could take a war-like turn. Some months ago, Tucker Carlson discussed this prospect with a guest who revealed that the Elites were game-planning war-like scenarios in response to a Trump victory, building off the precedent of similar scenarios which the Elites game-planned for leading up to the 2020 elections. An in-depth look at one of these Elite game-planning sessions revealed very disturbing thought processes on the part of those who were participating; thought processes which seem rooted in strategizing for a brutal domestic conflict. The kind of domestic conflict which the Elites have ignited in other areas of the world such as Africa, Southwest Asia, and Eastern Europe. It would appear that the Elites are resolved to destroy America’s self-governing structures through violence as a last resort, should all other efforts to maintain their grip on power fail.

The Elites cannot permit the people of America to take back control of their own governance. Too many plans will be in peril, too many criminal agendas in danger of being exposed, too many schemes for wealth and power will be destroyed. While Trump himself will not accomplish any of these results, the Elites clearly fear that a successful return to the White House on his part would ignite a domino effect which would lead to the American people eventually accomplishing those ends themselves. That is why there is a real desperation on the part of the Elites to stop Trump. It is not Trump himself that they truly fear, it is what his victory might inspire others to achieve which has them in utter panic.

Taken together, these details would seem to point to the truth of geopolitical analyst Martin Armstrong’s forecast that “we should be prepared for NOBODY to accept this election REGARDLESS of who wins.†The stakes are too high for the opposing sides to simply accept losing, especially if one’s very survival might hinge on the result. The Elites’ hold on the levers of power gives them an advantage in determining who America’s leaders will be come late January 2025, which makes it very likely that Trump will be prevented from taking office through one or more of the means just listed, even if the election results are in his favor. If this is the result, what happens next?

This is where the act of the West Virginia legislators mentioned at the beginning comes into perspective. With the stakes so high, it is no longer unthinkable that certain states as well as state and local leaders would begin to take very serious steps to defy DC in the face of what would be perceived as a blatant coup d’état. A taste of this was seen in the Texas border standoff earlier in 2024 when 25 states (joined later by the legislatures of Arizona, Kansas, Kentucky, and North Carolina) rallied behind Texas’ open defiance of stand down orders from not only the current administration, but the Supreme Court in regards to securing the border. This stark divide could re-appear very quickly post-election if the blatant power-grabbing tactics of many Elites become too much for local leaders to ignore. With the Elites unlikely to back down in the face of such defiance, it is hard not to see a “national divorce†resulting from the constitutional crisis which will unfold from any of the possible actions listed. America will begin to divide naturally, first states from the DC union, then certain states will divide as local communities seek to join with those of similar values to protect their culture and heritage.

The future is impossible to foretell with specificity. However, as the novelist Charles Dickens once wrote “Men’s courses will foreshadow certain ends, to which, if persevered in, they must lead.†The courses of the parties involved in the unfolding drama all point to a forthcoming political division of America and much of the world. Even if the events which lead to this end only contain elements of the plans which seem to be put in place for the near future, it does not mean that the result will be any different. The Age of Centralization is reaching it’s tragic and foreseeable end. The question that now remains for those tasked with rebuilding civilization from the shattered pieces of a failed world order is: will the correct remedies be gleaned from these lessons on the dangers of state power? For therein lies the path to truth and peace.

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  1. Gore 2004 says:

    I don’t care about abortion. People have to mind their own business on this, I’m warning you.

    Stop it.

    Secession should happen over immigration, crime, economy.

    Stop talking about abortion.

    STOP.

    •ï¿½Agree: anonymouseperson
  2. Notsofast says:

    this two headed monster that is the democratic-republican uniparty of the united state of israel, will never allow a free and fair election, not even in their own primaries. when the democrats were caught red-handed rigging the primary for killery, rather than deny it, they responded “so what, it’s a private party and we can do whatever the fuck the we want to do.” so there you have it, they are private clubs and you ain’t in em.

    in this special olympics of retarded american voters, all will be given plastic participation trophies and “i voted” medals, so they can feel good about having selected our ruling classes, all by themselves. once again we find ourselves, in this most important election of all time, in the greatest democracy on earth.

    until both of these parties are given the death penalty, for their monstrous and murderous ways, we will never be anything but a dumbmockery and these poor retarded children, that are the american people, will continue to be abused, along with rest of the world, that suffers as a result our unrelenting imbecility.

    •ï¿½Agree: Liza
  3. Anon[117] •ï¿½Disclaimer says:

    Just acknowledge your continuity of obligations, you’ll be shit through a goose in the USA and you’ll gain immediate recognition as successor state.

  4. Priss Factor says: •ï¿½Website

    Well, BRICS is a kind of secession from the US empire. Maybe it needs to happen to the US too… but I think more realistic is a divorce, not secession.

    Jeffrey Sachs, Richard Wolff & Victor Gao: BRICS New Currency UNVEILED, Iran-Israel War & WW3 Looms


    Video Link

  5. Make America Little Again! MALA!

  6. I’d like to know of any benefits the Fed Gov brings to the US working population because I can’t think of any. From my perspective, the Fed Gov is a cancer that is more rapidly consuming the vital parts of the country, the people that actually work or worked for a living.

    The Fed Gov needs to disappear leaving behind 50 new countries to absorb former Fed Gov property and then figure out how to best serve their individual populations. A place like California will go bust in a flash with their asinine policies and once they hit bottom due to population loss, non functioning infrastructure, etc, some intelligent life may spring up there to provide more realistic direction.

    It’s the competition between jurisdictions prevented by the existence of the Fed Gov with its redistribution policies that allows for idiocy to survive. Without the Fed Gov, every state would have to become a trading partner with every other state and foreign country to peacefully use commerce to provide a decent living for their residents. Stupid policies would see people voting with their feet to a better state so stupidity rapidly feels the effects to reverse course.

    It is competition between jurisdictions that is needed to show winners and losers with the individual providing the only vote that is worth considering, the vote provided by settling in an area conducive to having a real future. All the welfare dregs, invaders and other dirtbags can starve to death along the way if they don’t shape up.

    •ï¿½Replies: @anarchyst
  7. xyzxy says:

    What a merry-go-round article. Reads like something from the old Vdare. Too many highlighted links which do more to obscure specificity, than it does to get to the core of the problem.

    Then we read this:

    This poses the question of whether the Elites may decide to focus on stealing control of Congress.

    Wait a minute… who exactly are ‘the Elites’ you write about? And steal Congress? You telling us that AIPAC Jews haven’t already ‘stolen’ Congress?

    Well, one thing’s for sure. Dahl is correct when he writes: The future is impossible to foretell with specificity.

    Yeah. For sure. That bit of insight rates right up there with Criswell’s keen acumen from Plan 9 from Outer Space:

    “We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember, my friend: future events such as these will affect you in the future.”

  8. If in 2000, after proving that Donald Trump was thrown into the political trash heap and from that date Kamala was chosen as a possible candidate for 2024, everything behaves according to that project.

    Trump’s reelection is almost impossible because he is a well-known puppet very difficult to handle; and always thinking about his own business and Kamala can only be viable if someone else is the one who runs the reality show from behind the curtain, which should be the plan.

    Since the death of the Kennedys, politics has lost personal shine.

    •ï¿½Replies: @xyzxy
  9. xyzxy says:
    @Liborio Guaso

    Since the death of the Kennedys, politics has lost personal shine.

    I know what you mean, but I’d include Nixon. Probably the last of the presidents who had, at least in private conversations, a willingness to confront what the author of the article calls ‘the Elites’. Nixon was smarter than the MSM held him out to be. Yet grounded in a geopolitical era which no longer exists. He attempted to put his own ‘personal shine’ on the play, but couldn’t win out over the Rootless Cosmopolitans, the European Styled Socialists, Globalists, the Neocons, those Tribal Tricksters… um… er, I mean the author’s ‘Elites’, who greatly despised him.

    Interesting thing about Kennedy and Nixon, in light of BRICS, resulting from the political transformation of China along with the current Sino-Russian rapprochement–something Nixon feared as a possible beginning of the end for American hegemony.

    And in a way, Kennedy and Nixon were not unlike Mao and Chiang. Both fighting for the same prize, albeit with different goals in mind. Some say that after Chiang died, Mao felt that his own life had lost meaning. Adversaries often have that effect on each other, ‘victory’ sometimes being hollow.

    As far as secession? That was decided in 1865. But as Dahl wrote, who can claim to know the future? Even a savant like Criswell couldn’t get it right.

  10. anarchyst says:
    @RoatanBill

    One only has to look back through history to observe how our representative republic has been compromised.
    It started around 1861 and was finally completed after the summation of the War of Northern Aggression.
    One aspect of life before the War of Northern Aggression was the fact that the federal government had little power and was subservient to the states.
    In those times, an individual citizen regarded himself to be a citizen of his respective state–NOT a citizen of the united States. A person living in Virginia considered himself to be a citizen of Virginia and likewise citizens of other states who were citizens of their respective states.
    At the time, the only responsibilities that the federal government had was to coin lawful money, run a post office, and have the ability to gather troops to repel invasions, nothing more.
    The War of Northern Aggression was illegal on its face, as states always had the right to secede from the union.
    The requirement that the states in rebellion sign a statement recognizing the inviolability of the federal government before readmission was done under duress and were not valid contracts. The only state that never signed a no secession clause was Texas. To this day, Texas could tell the feds to take a hike. There would be very little the feds could do about it.
    That all changed with the conclusion of the War of Northern Aggression when the states were subordinated to the federal government, illegal powers being taken by the federal government.
    The final blow was cast in 1913 with the imposition of the income tax, creation of the Federal Reserve which the federal government ceded powers to the banks and effectively abdicated its responsibility to coin lawful money, and the direct election of senators.
    It was all downhill from there…

    •ï¿½Agree: RoatanBill
  11. The writer is entitled to his opinions …

    Billionaires Musk and Trump ARE the elite. Whoever wins or loses any election, domestic peace and order must be non-negotiable. The US Army, Air Force, and Navy need to be above party politics and remain vigilant against external forces who maybe tempted to launch a sneak attack in a time of seeming confusion. It’s incumbent upon domestic security agencies to ensure all political candidates and rallies are safe. We are only trying to caution, not to be alarmist.

    And remember, there is more to Life than politics. You were created a Human Being before you became an American or a Russian. You were born an American before you became a Democrat or a Republican. Please give thanks to the Almighty God who created you in His own image, who gave you your life, who gave you your wits, who gave you your freedom, who gave you your land; Land of the Free and Home of the Brave!!!

    Vote Harris, Make History!


    Video Link

  12. Here, as in all public forums, commenters shy away and avoid the central topic and sole remedy for an entire race of people +Asians: secession. For years, I have written long and short articles on every aspect of this solution. I have provided detailed tactical and strategic options. I have provided real, concrete, and realistic references and sources.

    No one seems interested. They are VERY interested in enumerating and expounding on how bad the problems is and overall averting not just their gaze, but attention. That’s because most people are cowards and expect Jewsus and the many of Jewsus Juniors to do it for them, and roll up in a bus to the victory ceremony.

    Even ex-military and intelligence former operatives. In the last 70 years, I have seen “liberation” movements or all varieties in the JUSA, but not Indo-European.

    Video Link

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    •ï¿½Replies: @Poupon Marx
  13. @Poupon Marx

    Don’t worry. Tomorrow’s leaders and polity are on display in the series of Charlie Kirk’s court on college camp puses. Oozing dead white blood cells. Notice their eloquence, preparation, depth of knowledge, clarity of thought and originality in the interpretation and application of Great Ideas!

    Video Link

    I’ve watched too many. Headaches and nausea are just too high a price to pay.

    Like….like….like….

  14. On one side are a desperate cadre of elites, criminals, and rabid cultists cowering at the fear of what a Trump electoral victory could mean for their exclusive clique which has run the American political system for at least the last century.

    I’m sorry, I couldn’t keep reading past this point. Are we still taking the ‘drain the swamp’ narrative seriously in 2024? How retarded do you have to be to still believe this narrative?

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