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I recently provided a translation of Igor Shafarevich’s final remarks on his own work, “The Three-Thousand-Year-Old Enigma,” addressing the Jewish Question in which he tries to expound on possible solutions going forward. Please read the original text first.
If I wanted to, I could easily write a glowing review of Igor Shafarevich and his work and leave it there. The man was a respected academic, a genius in his respective field, and brave enough to tackle the Jewish Question the way that he did. But I will leave that task up to another writer and, instead, I will focus on the work that he left us and ask if it there are any fresh insights that Shafarevich has to share with Westerners or if there are differences in his characterization of the Jewish Question and his proposed solution.
Shafarevich is a window into Soviet-era Russian understanding of the Jewish Question. By reading him, we can decide for ourselves if these Russians understood the problem that they were facing in a similar way to how we conceptualize it now.
For example, Western counter-Semites are well aware of the problem of dual-loyalty and the phenomenon of Jewish crypsis. Shafarevich points out that Jews dislike being recognized for being Jewish and often treat exposure as a direct insult or even a threat. Said another way: “But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
Also, the idea of the Jews needing people to work, toil and fight on their behalf is a point well understood by both Western and Russian counter-Semites living under Jewish occupation governments. It is truly incredible to see how so many people from different countries, periods of history and intellectual traditions were able to come to such similar conclusions about the Jews.
Here, it would perhaps be enlightening to take a detour and compare Shafarevich’s conclusions to Solzhenitsyn’s. The latter, if anything, played down the culpability of the Jews and their destructive behavior. That is to say, that while he did not cover up their crimes or try to whitewash them as the products of misguided intentions, he ultimately concluded that the Jews were like a divine sort of punishment unleashed on Russians for their own sins. He used a very familiar Christian metaphysical framework when framing his narrative. That, in short, the Jews were God’s tool (or the tool of God working through Satan) for punishing his people and creating more Christian martyrs through adversity.
Shafarevich, however, takes a more biological view of the matter, a perspective familiar to most Western counter-semites, no doubt. Shafarevich uses a herbivore/carnivore metaphor to describe the relationship between the gentiles and the Jews. But, if we’re looking to the animal kingdom for inspiration, parasites come to mind as a better analogy for Jews and their behavior. This also neatly explains the supposed limits on their fertility. Society, if it is conceptualized as a living organism, would quickly reach parasitical overload. The host would succumb to disease and keel over eventually.
For our new metaphor to work however, we have to consider a concept put forward by another Russian thinker, Lev Gumilyov. He conceptualized society as a living organism, or rather, that one’s ethnic group is an extension of oneself. His reasoning is simple: a tribe helps protect the individual. A tribe and then a society grows around an individual like a protective hide grows around a boar. Better yet, individuals can be compared to the cells in a body. Castes or types of individuals are organs in this metaphor. A people has to work together in unison for both the collective body and the individual cells to survive. People of one ethnos then, are collected on a deep level to one another and not just atomized individuals who happen to share some proteins with the people around them, as our society conceptualizes things now. For nationalists, this would be a very powerful metaphor to first internalize and then use. And the power of a well thought-out metaphor should not be discounted.
Shaferevich’s big point, the solution that he is offering to us, the great herbivore herd as he characterizes us, is to relearn how to close ranks around our own and to relearn how to recognize predators in our midst.
Now, there is nothing wrong with this idea in theory. In actual practice however, getting people to think of their collective interests, the interests of the weaker elements of our society and of the fate of our future descendants has proven to be quite difficult. Many Western Whites, in particular, balk at the idea that they belong to something inborn that is greater than themselves that they cannot simple opt out of by changing their ideology, their profession, or buying a new set of clothes. Western Whites, prone as they are to individualism, prefer to rally around ideology instead of identity. In practice that means an immigrant from Taiwan with the right talking points and values, is accepted into polite White society. But, a White man, who may have had ancestors come over on the Mayflower even , would be kicked out of polite society as soon as he voiced a politically incorrect opinion. Like, say, about Jewish power.
We’ve seen it occur countless times already.
The question of how to rekindle national or racial consciousness in a country of radical individualists has plagued counter-Semites for the last half-century at least. It is because of this hyper-individuality perhaps, that calls to close ranks fall on deaf ears. Furthermore, the individual White has much to gain by denouncing his people. We, on a society-wide scale, are in a classic prisoner’s dilemma scenario. It would make sense for Whites to cooperate in good faith with other Whites and improve their lot by cooperating, but in our poisoned culture, the pursuit of rational, individual self-interest dictates that Whites fight each other to prove who is the least racist and most tolerant to get more lenient sentences from the prison warden. It was the same in the Soviet Union, although the reigning ideology was somewhat different. Only cooperation among the prisoners will get them out of the prison, but it was because of their inability to close ranks that they became prisoners in the first place.
Quite the dilemma.
Since the “closing ranks” solution is the main thrust of Shaferevich’s argument, it is disappointing that he spends so little time talking about methods that might help us close ranks against the nefarious influence of foreigners and what the obstacles are for us doing so.
If I had one critique of Shafarevich, it would be that his writing suffers from the same problem that a lot of other researchers’ writings suffer from. These people are able to do Herculean work when it comes to meticulously sifting through vast swaths of information as a researcher and organizer of data. Where they falter, however, is in the solutions that they then go on to propose. Perhaps this is because solution-seeking requires an entirely different mental skillset with analyzing and dissecting being quite different from synthesizing policy or practice.
Another important point that Shafarevich hones in on though is the idea of the Jews’ self-ordained role as priests for all of humanity, dedicated to toppling the idols of other peoples whether they be the native gods or the native culture. This is now well-known in our circles as “Tikkum Olam” or the Jewish dedication to “healing the world,” i.e., remaking the world to better suit themselves and their agenda. Jews also conceive of themselves as “idol-destroyers.” And, in the Jewish conception of them, “idols” can mean any idea or cultural practice that is not approved of by Jewish authorities.
Also, while monotheism is not a Jewish invention, the Jews certainly did promote the worship of one god, their god, Yahweh, above all other nations’ gods. Sadly, the early Christians who opposed Yahwehism lost their battle with Christian orthodoxy, and the Old Testament’s capricious ethnic deity became our God.
Pre-Socratic Greek thinkers, Zoroastrians, and Gnostics, in contrast, believed that there was indeed a powerful, but evil, materialistic, petty deity that ruled over this world. Polytheistic Aryan pagan religion conceptualized the gods as being capricious and cruel. However, this all began to change with Plato. This famous Greek was equal parts philosopher as much as he was a political activist and a Klaus Schwab-style social planner. Plato’s “Great Reset” began with him arguing to ban Homer’s Odyssey and working to combat the peasants’ leery attitudes towards the gods. Plato believed that criticism of the god(s) and their intentions ought to be banned in his priest-run utopian society.
Shafarevich demonstrates an awareness of how deeply the general thrust of Western thinking has been affected by Judaism and Plato. We are the products of Platonic, Judaic and then Christian (an offshoot of Judaism) thinking, he says, and the trajectory of our society was defined by the merger of these intellectual and religious traditions.
Recent scholarly analysis of the Old Testament, however, reveals that it was probably written far later than what the Jews have historically claimed. In fact, scholars in the “minimalist school” like Russel Gmirkin makes a convincing case that the Bible was written in the second century BC and inspired by Plato’s work. The Torah, the Jewish nationalist foundation myth, took Plato’s idea of a higher mono-deity as its guiding principle. Now, Plato was not the first monotheist, but he was, however, one of the first to insist that the mono-deity had to be both omnipotent and good. Also, he was the first to outline a WEF-style program for the radical transformation of society through the use of psycho-religious tactics to manipulate the population.
Jews like to claim credit for inventing monotheism, but, as Shafarevich points out, they take credit for just about everything. He plays down their accomplishments by stating that the Jews have observably invented or contributed very little throughout modern history and were only able to do what they did using the tools that were handed to them by the host cultures in which they found themselves. The controversial example of the Old Testament would fit neatly into this observable phenomenon of Jews only being able to adopt, modify or invert what already exists. It is, after all, a goulash stew of borrowed and, in some cases, inverted legends and myths from the people that they came into contact with over the course of their history. The Jews then claimed that their knock-off copy predated the originals and took credit for what they stole. A classic Jewish move. As a result, we ended up with a convenient Judeo-centric narrative to theology and history in which the Jews invented monotheism, had the oldest written religious text, were God’s chosen, and so on.
Shaferevich was unaware of this particular revisionist school of Biblical scholarship when he was writing and doing his own research. His own analysis of the Old Testament, however, would rankle many generic Western conservatives and even veteran counter-Semites. It should come as little surprise that Soviet scholars were freer to question some of the core claims of Christianity and, encouraged even, to deconstruct holy texts like the Bible. As a result, skepticism of Jewish religious history, by extension, became more acceptable in the USSR. America, in contrast, remained largely Protestant. i.e., Old Testamentarian and never had a period of state-imposed atheism during which the Bible was delegitimized and stripped of its holy veneer.
This accounts for one of the subtle differences between Russian and Western counter-Semitic thought.
Also, for fear of rocking the boat, most Western counter-Semites try to stay away from religious debates, or, rather, away from asking too many questions about the Old Testament. Nowadays, there is, however, a disturbing trend of counter-Semites identifying with the Jews of the Old Testament by claiming that they were, in actual fact, Scandinavians or Germans and that the current stock of Jews are “fakes” from Khazaria. It is easy to understand why many are drawn to this ideology. After all, it is rather strange to be a nationalist and then to adopt the national myths and ethnic deity of an enemy people as your own. It is harder still to admit that our ancestors lived in a low-information environment and were simply duped centuries ago.
Now, many counter-Semites have tried to sidestep the discussion entirely and simply try to focus on promoting ethnic self-awareness. Again, however, we come head-to-head with the recurring problem of the low levels of ethnocentricity among Western Whites. If the simple “closing ranks” approach works among more ethnocentric groups of people, perhaps it makes sense to work with the grain and not against it when it comes to proposing a solution for peoples who seem to have developed, for one reason or another, extremely low levels of empathy for their own kin.
Instead of being drawn to ideas of identity, these peoples seem drawn to religious-type/ideological thinking. Even if they are secular. After all, secular religions like Social Justice Warriorism and the global warming cult dominate White Western polite society now.
So, the point I am driving at here is rather simple.
Perhaps the solution for peoples who struggle to close ranks because of low levels of ethnocentricity ought to be to do what they do best and re-adopt religious thinking and Puritan-style religious fervor, to which they seem so well-suited naturally. If this is to be done however, perhaps it makes sense to stop pretending to be the real Jews and start focusing on becoming the real Christians instead. My contribution to the debate on possible solutions to the Jewish Question would be to recommend Marcionite Christian thinking, with its rejection of the Old Testament and juxtaposition of Christ to Yahweh, as a theologically sound and spiritually exclusionary alternative approach to religion.
While religious thinking certainly has its drawbacks, it does seem able to convince conscientious people from time to time of the possibility that destructive self-serving actions have grave metaphysical consequences. Again, both Shafarevich and myself agree that the only way to break out of the political, economic and social prison that the Jews have constructed for us is to close ranks and learn to engage in cooperative behavior with our own people. But, the only way to get Whites to cooperate and think about saving more than just their own skin is to adopt best practices that encourage cooperative behavior, punish self-serving selfishness and exclude the Jews by recognizing them as mortal enemies.
The how or the actual practice of closing ranks and promoting cooperation among our own is what we should be developing and debating now. Sadly, there has been very little progress on this front in either the West or the East.
Shafarevich and, to a certain extent, Solzhenitsyn, have done brave work in researching the Jewish Question and bringing the crimes of the Jews and the threat that they pose to the attention of millions of people worldwide. What they fail to do is advance the ball much further than describing the problem and shedding light on the Jews’ tactics and their ultimate agenda to destroy and remake our society’s to better serve their own interests. To continue the analogy, these researchers passed the ball forward, into the enemy’s half of the field, hoping that someone on their team would pick it up and take it the rest of the way to the goal. Thanks to the hard work of researchers like Shafarevich, we now have a clear understanding of the Jewish Problem. Anyone looking for the holy grail that is the Jewish Solution, however, needs to start looking and thinking on their own.
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The Jews themselves pioneered this kind of Talmudic double-down-talk: the Assyrians etc. didn’t beat YHVH by conquering his Chosen Ones, they were actually being used by YHVH to punish his Chosen Ones for not worshiping him enough (cf. “Vote harder!”).
IF “Christian Nationalists” ever took power, they would quickly maintain or re-institute the entire Judaic regime (abortion, transsexualism, porn, drugs, support for Israel, etc.) as actually God’s tribulation of his Elect through his Chosen Instrument, so as to perfect them before his return.
“He did this to present her to himself as a glorious church without a spot or wrinkle or any other blemish. Instead, she will be holy and without fault.” Ephesians, 5:12
“And the same shit all over again” — Karl Marx, Critique of the Gotha Programme
almost everyone knows what the only permanent solution to the JP is.
Hitler et al. tried to do it, but barely got started before losing the attendent war.
and by starting in on the Jews and not finishing, the Nazis gave them
the A#1 victimology entitlement group status that the Jews
are now using to finish off the Whites and their civilization.
The classical solution worked pretty well. Why was it lost?
They claim to be a separate people, so disenfranchise them.
And let them set up ghettoes where they will be ruled by their rabbis with power of life and death.
Only escape, getting protection from the State, is to take off their hats and abandon Judaism.
Today, in the modern world with modern communications, that would work in a flash. The Satanism called Judaism would quickly disappear.
So why was that easy solution lost? Democracy!
This remarkable essay covers a great deal of useful ground in a mere 2600 words, and is much more informative and thought-provoking than many recent offerings on Unz.com. I will definitely keep an eye peeled for other writings from this author.
cheesus k reist what a terrible idea Rolo Slavskiy is pushing here – to fight Jewish influence by trying to sell some kind of supposedly ‘anti-Jewish’ version of Jewish-book Jewish-saviour Christianity
this is one of the dumbest things I have read by an Unz writer in a long time
any form of Jewish-drenched Christianity, is a foothold for Jewish cultism to reassert itself … and in any case Christianity is in final-surge, swan-song-soon-amongst-whites phase, something less visible to an Eastern European like Slavskiy, or to USA bible-country folk
there’s need for spirituality, but the offer as Christianity fades, should be a Western version of meditation-yogic-reincarnation religions, so people can still maintain comfort in life beyond death and spiritual magic, without Jewish-Abrahamic terrors like ‘eternal hell’ and other holy book barbarisms
the ‘fix’ to ethnic assault is underway somewhat naturally now – whites are realising they are being attacked and waking up, and, curiously, finding some new allies as Latinos and Asians also start to feel attacked in parallel ways … eventually we can normalise the idea that everyone has a right to their ‘own culture’ and some stability in the world, including white people … if we can survive the propaganda and censorship schemes of the elite
Dalai Lama himself boldly spoke in anti-Soros fashion saying that ‘Europe should be for Europeans’ … guess he’s a ‘racist’ too now lol
No Dallas Cowboys at the Alamo…
NO {{{{PROSELYTES}}}} to Talmudic Judaism in the Old Testament.
Israel is a people, A “COMPANY of NATIONS”…WHITE PEOPLE !!!
John 8:44
The “SOLUTION”….@ Matthew 13:39-43.
No One on Earth HAS to be a {{{PROSELYTE}}} to Talmudic Judaism.
I fail to understand how offering to foot the bill to send them all to what would become Israel would have changed much in the long run.
Anything else related to the jews that Hilter was supposed to have started and not finished is just more subversive historical revisionism.
Our greatest misfortune. Here’s to number 110!
getting protection from the State
What a howler. I didn’t know you do comedy.
The obvious solution is to give up your stupidstitions with religion the most prominent. It is bunk from stem to stern and once you give it up, the world becomes a more understandable place. You will also begin to understand that the religion of government is just as pernicious and false.
Ukraine is being set up to become the European “israel”. Despite “aliyah” being desired by jews, (((they))) actually HATE israel’s climate and middle eastern nature.
Ukraine is the perfect place for European jews to establish their criminal enterprises on the European continent as (((they))) will have the whole European and Asian continents within their reach.
Israel 2.0 is being created as we speak.
Not good.
Thank you for the interesting article. I’m still digesting these ideas and don’t have anything particularly interesting to say. It will probably take a few more years to finish digesting.
For a while now (about 10 years) I have understood Plato (and to a lesser extent, Aristotle) to be proto-Chritstians, so I am skeptical of the claim that Christian civilization is just a bad rip off of Jewish ideas (something we often hear from Jews). I’m happy to see a distinguished academic push back against this.
Very few educated people believe in, or have any interest in the childish ideas like mathematical (or worse, physical) platonism. These ideas were useful hundreds of years ago, but thankfully are seen as painfully naive now. It seems to me that believing in the Jewish God (as Christians do) is simply the same retarded belief on steroids.
As I said, I still need to work through these ideas.
Hmm. The state is supposed to protect it’s own real citizens. Those finding themselves under the power of rabbis to execute them (they really did, per Shahak) can cease to be Jews and that power vanishes.
Oh, you’re defending your role as top comedian, Bill?
If you mean the religion of Democracy, I agree absolutely on that point.
I have no idea what point you were trying to make, but am curious about “real citizens”. I didn’t know there were any other kind.
The elusive “jewish solution” that the author is looking for lies in a modernist revival of National Socialism, supplanting Christianity with some sort of modern reinvention of European paganism, (similar to what Stephen McNallen is doing with the Asatru Revival Movement), and the complete and total rejection of everything jewish.
This is the solution, however, as the author points out, getting Whites to move in that direction is near impossible, as Whites have been subjected to the greatest “brain washing” operation known to humanity. As the author aptly notes, the internal “operating system”, (carefully installed by jews over many many years), that modern Whites operate under works against them rather than for them. A complete and total re-installation of this operating system is in dire need.
One thing the author fails to mention is the completely ridiculous “holocaust” narrative that gives jews unlimited victimhood currency and at the same time is used as a weapon to fend off Whites from “closing the ranks”. Anyone with an open mind and about an hour of their time will immediately begin to see just how false, ridiculous, exaggerated and made up the entire narrative is. Revealing the holocaust narrative as largely false will also break the jewish soul and identity forever. The total destruction of Israel would soon follow.
Regardless of the viability of any solution to the jewish problem, what is true is that whites are indeed waking up.
The elusive “jewish solution” that the author is looking for lies in a modernist revival of National Socialism, supplanting Christianity with some sort of modern reinvention of European paganism, (similar to what Stephen McNallen is doing with the Asatru Revival Movement), and the complete and total rejection of everything jewish.
This is the solution, however, as the author points out, getting Whites to move in that direction is near impossible, as Whites have been subjected to the greatest “brain washing” operation known to humanity. As the author aptly notes, the internal “operating system”, (carefully installed by jews over many many years), that modern Whites operate under works against them rather than for them. A complete and total re-installation of this operating system is in dire need.
One thing the author fails to mention is the completely ridiculous “holocaust” narrative that gives jews unlimited victimhood currency and at the same time is used as a weapon to fend off Whites from “closing the ranks”. Anyone with an open mind and about an hour of their time will immediately begin to see just how false, ridiculous, exaggerated and made up the entire narrative is. Revealing the holocaust narrative as largely false will also break the jewish soul and identity forever.
Regardless of the viability of any solution to the jewish problem, what is true is that whites are indeed waking up.
I don’t have the details at my fingertips so can’t cite a reference, but … dim and distant memory (too young to even talk) … the German rabbis insisted that the Jews are a separate race. To Hitler that meant they were not of the German race, therefore were not Germans. They were foreigners in Germany when a war was on.
So, not German citizens, had no rights, definitely no right to vote in any election at all. Disenfranchised.
The word race has a specific meaning. It does not include separating people by religion. That’s why it’s annoying to have people here claim that jews are their own race just because they have their religion and are a tight knit clan. This does a disservice to any conversation that brings up that canard. There is also no German race.
The majority of jews are clearly caucasian. It’s their clan behavior and inbuilt prejudice for their own kind AND against the other that causes all the issues. The folks around here that are Hitler cheerleaders are ignoring his contribution to WWII. All the top participants from the various countries involved were all responsible for the carnage against the civilian population that had no say in starting the war or its prosecution, but got killed in large numbers. None of them, win or lose, deserves any accolades.
Hitler’s contribution to WWII? You mean how he freed the entire British Army at Dunkirk?
Or do you mean how he refused to break international law by bombing another country till Germany was already being heavily bombed?
Which?
Neither. His contribution is the slaughter of his own kind through his third reich fantasy. He had a messianic vision to set up the Germans as some super race much like the jews consider their tribe exceptional or the US’s exceptional rhetoric. All these “leaders” are just instigators of conflict that drags their populations into situations few want.
https://iep.utm.edu/god-west/
Plato the OG biblefag
Did he really? Third Empire after two past disasters, and when it was so belated to try to unify the strangely separate dukedoms? Holy Roman Empire in modern world? Smashed to pieces by hellish WW1 punishment when the Kaiser had been pushed into that? Ha! Ha!
Was Hitler wrong? Why? Fantasy? Why?
He dragged Germany out of the Deep Depression? Naughty boy!
Millions of people dead on all sides. Whole regions trashed because the “leaders” decide to use violence to settle their affairs. This is primitive barbarism, no more.
‘IF “Christian Nationalists” ever took power, they would quickly maintain or re-institute the entire Judaic regime (abortion, transsexualism, porn, drugs, support for Israel, etc.) as actually God’s tribulation of his Elect through his Chosen Instrument, so as to perfect them before his return.’
Christian nationalism is just a n attempted subversion of White nationalism.
Stop be ing a faggot and projecting your worst fears for everyone to read.
Life isnt the hand maids tale.
‘Only escape, getting protection from the State, is to take off their hats and abandon Judaism’
No. The barriers have to be completely impermeable otherwise you get subversive marranos.
‘The majority of jews are clearly caucasian. ‘
Oh fuck off. Race in this context clearly means ethnic group. And no Jews are not White people even if some of them look caucasian. If they were White Israel would be like Norway or Sweden in the 1970s. Instead Israeli behaviour is classically middle eastern.
We gave the Jews their victimology by not understanding the whole picture of what happened in ww2. If the whole picture was looked at objectively and true t0 the facts the Germans would be known as the true victims and suffered the most in ww2.
Akhenaton/Aten or Zoroaster are probably older than monotheist Judaism. The latter was polytheistic at first.
The Ashkenazi question is open to debate but modern genetics seem to favor something like Middle East 50% German 10% Slavic 10% and 30% Roman/Italy. I guess that goes back 2000 or 3000 years.
However the word Ashkenazi might relate to Gomer and Cimmerians. And Ashkenazi were associated with both Germany/France but also the Scythians before the Khazars.
We still don’t know enough about history. Tribes adopted other religious and culture ideas.
The Old Testament might have several gods mention and Yahweh, El, and what about possible mixing into a new god.
The debate on Jesus and God being the same is still questionable. I know most Christians accept it.
I find the God or Gods of the Bible (both Testaments) to have both “good” and “evil” characteristics. I don’t understand why Christians fail to see it.
ANARCHISM. Thinking that anarchy is a possible and even desirable social system. Anarchy is a Greek word meaning a system, or rather a disorder, in which there is no compulsion and therefore no deontic authority of sanctions. Anarchy is obvious superstition, at least as far as it relates to complex societies. In 5,000 years of human history, not a single case is known in which anarchy was not combined with an enormous mass of injustice, murder, etc. and the rapid collapse of society. One can therefore be an anarchist only on condition that another superstition is assumed, namely the belief in progress. It is noteworthy that anarchists do not always deny the necessity of all authority, but only of the authority of sanctions. It seems to them that a voluntarily recognized authority should suffice and that people will submit to it, even if they are not threatened by any sanction. But that is superstition too. It is known that in every society, without exception, there is a certain percentage of unpunished or criminal individuals who do not submit to the will of the majority. In our time it is even more obvious than it used to be.
The reason for the spread of tango superstition is perceiving the existing order and ruling power as unfair, which in many cases may be right. But anarchism is not a remedy for this evil, because it usually leads to more misfortunes than those from which it would like to free people.
Marxism was instrumental in popularizing anarchism. For Marx himself adopted the ideals of anarchists as the goal of politics. In his opinion, in the “paradise on earth” that communism is supposed to be, there will be no more state * or any compulsion at all. His goal, then, is quite clearly anarchy. One of the freaks of Marxism is that by proclaiming such an ideal, adhering in theory to anarchic superstition, in practice, wherever he is in power, he practices extreme totalitarianism.
heard of?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_Dodd
.Speaking as a former high ranking official of the American Communist Party, Mrs. Dodd said: “In the 1930s we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the Church from within.” The idea was for these men to be ordained and progress to positions of influence and authority as Monsignors and Bishops. A dozen years before Vatican II she stated that: “Right now they are in the highest places in the Church” — where they were working to bring about change in order to weaken the Church’s effectiveness against Communism. She also said that these changes would be so drastic that “you will not recognize the Catholic Church.” …”.
Bella Dodd Testimonies Before Congress:
April 25, 1950
September 8 and 9, 1952
March 10, 1953
May 4, 1953
November 16, 1953
August 13, 1954 (page 645)
June 14, 1956
https://www.hprweb.com/2021/12/rethinking-bella-dodd-and-infiltration-of-the-catholic-priesthood/
“…The Jews themselves pioneered this kind of Talmudic double-down-talk: the Assyrians etc. didn’t beat YHVH by conquering his Chosen Ones, they were actually being used by YHVH to punish his Chosen Ones for not worshiping him enough…”
True, but that is the way religious people often try to “explain” misfortune. It is “God’s punishment” for not being pious enough. (Muslims tried to explain their frequently lost wars against Israel in the same way).
I think this idea that YHWH was using the peoples around them against Israel led to the conclusion that he had power over them and thus was not only “the God of Israel” but of the whole world. Thus YHWH became a universal God, though still connected to a “chosen people”, a contradiction in Judaism to this very day: YHWH is a tribal and a universal God at the same time. Only Judaism’s two daughter religions became truly universal by cutting off tribal connections to Judaism, Christianity partly so (“Christians are the new Israel”), but Islam wholly so.
When I raised the question of understanding the Jewish problem at one of the Russian-language forums, I was recommended
Description of the book “The Book of Kagal [3rd ed., 1888]”
Description and summary of “The Book of Kagal [3rd ed., 1888]”
The third edition of the Book of Kagal was published under the editorship of Alexander Brafman, and contains not only significant additions to the original text of the book, but also recommendations to the Russian government on how to really destroy kagals in Russia. Unlike the first edition, which is subtitled “Materials for the study of Jewish life”, this edition was published with the subtitle “The World Jewish Question”, which in itself determines the change in the very essence of the book.
If the first edition, widely distributed on the Internet, describes only certain unpleasant everyday and behavioral traditions of Jews, then in the third edition these sketches are supplemented with historical material and statistical data from various studies of the catastrophic economic situation of the local indigenous population (within the “pale of settlement”) under the yoke of the Jewish kagals, or as they are now called — Jewish communities.
After the coup d’etat of 1985-1991, Zionist organizations became more active on the territory of the USSR, which disguise themselves as various “foundations”, “human rights organizations”, “institutes of public opinion research”, etc. The goal of these parasites is the same — the revival and strengthening of Jewish communities (Kagals) and their taking control of all life in the country. How the capture of the country by the Kagals takes place is shown and proved in great detail and absolutely reasoned in the 3rd edition of the Book of Kagal.
H.L. Mencken aptly states: “Democracy is also a form of worship. It is the worship of jackals by jackasses.”
Whites live in a state of moral confusion, caused by Jewish activism. Reject moral relativism, reintroduce moral clarity and the Jews will appear for what they are. You also have to assimilate that national-socialism isn’t a solution, it was a wild German autoimmune reaction caused by the Weimar degeneration.
Restore moral clarity among your kin and they will realise how evil is the ‘new normal’ and they will realise who is behind it. However, they won’t outright reject the ‘new normal’, for that fortitude is needed and therefore moral cowardice consisting in seeking accomodations with the ‘new normal’ has to be castigated.
I have spent thirty-six years of my life in the West and I doubt Westerners have it in them. There are imho only two possible outcomes for the Jewish created moral crisis – it is above all a moral crisis – of “liberal democracies”: implosion or nuclear war.
May I just say, I don’t care whether the “holocaust ” is “real” or not. That cheque has been CASHED & SPENT. Enough. No one has a right to play the “victim” into eternity.
Incidentally, when Jew’s or their Shabbos Goyim, speak of the “holocaust” ask “yes… and? ” If silence follows, then suggest — “gypsies, homosexuals, johavah’s witnesses, 7th day Adventists, socialists, communists, & 100000’s of miscellaneous?”
If no general, authentic sympathy occurs, then you know the true value of such “victim” ideology.
Thanks to RoatanBill for pointing out that Hitler was no hero. I adhere to Greg Hallett’s thory that he was a British agent whose job was to castrate France and decimate Central/Eastern Europe for the Anglo-Zionist empire. He pulled Germany out of the Depression because he was funded by London and New York bankers. The artificial prosperity of Germany in the 30’s was necessary for the construction of a war machine that could be used first on Russia and then on Germany itself. Germans, with their slave/herd/masochistic/autistic Kantian character, were perfect cult inductees. The goal was to kill as many people as possible, destroy the last remnants of the Old World, and ensure that Germans, Russians, Czechs, Poles, ordinary (non-Cabalist) Jews, French, etc. would never be able to unite. A Hitler was necessary to sweep away Europe and prepare the ground for the dystopian consumer society that we now live in, and which will soon be mothballed in favor of an even more naked serfdom.
Jews have turned ethnic European women into whores and sluts eager to abort their own offspring in ritual sacrifices to Yahweh, and now these women are civilizations biggest enemy.
Rolo Slavskiy asked that we read Shafarevich’s “The Three-Thousand-Year-Old Enigma” before we read Slavskiy’s article. I did so. I endured the chunky, much vapid discursiveness of Shafarevich’s work until I encountered ana assertion that pissed me off. This assertion:
That asseertion is an outrageous falsehood that, likely, reflects a racially arrogant false belief that Western (White) civilizations and Western (White) peoples are, and have been, superior to the peoples and civilizations of China and India.
Algebra was invented in northwest India. In the 7th through 6th century BCE, Indian mathematicians determined the general quadratic equation for both positive and negative roots.
Around 350 BCE, Jain mathematicians devised notations of simple powers and exponents of numbers (squares, cubes…….), which enabled them to define and operate algebraic equations.
In the 8th century BCE, Indian mathematicians determined the square root of 2, two centuries before Pythagorus was born.
In the 6th century BCE, 2300 years before George Boole “invented” Boolean logic (Boolean algebra), Pā ini (520–460 BCE) used Boolean logic (Boolean algebra).
About 2400 years before the advent of electronic computers, Pā ini used a precursor of Backus–Naur form (used in computer programming languages).
The Chinese invented or established much of math markedly before Europeans did. A few (of many) instances:
• By 1000 BCE, the Chinese had established a fully developed a decimal system.
• The Chinese invented Pascal’s Triangle centuries before Pascal was born.
• The Chinese invented algebraic geometry (a.k.a. “analytic geometry”) about 4 centuries before Descartes was born.
• Hundreds of years before the Christian Era, the Chinese invented decimal multiplication and negative numbers.
• The Chinese invented the Pythagorean theorem about 700 years before Pythagorus was born.
• The Chinese invented the rule of double false position (or double false position method) about 200 years before the Christian Era (about 2,000 years before the births of Gauss and Jordan, for whom the method’s European version was named — Gauss-Jordan — in Europe.
• The Chinese invented the Horner method of solving higher numerical equations about 600 years before Horner was born.
The Chinese must be credited with numerous other mathematics advances. But I shall stop here, because the preceding list suffices to shame Shafarevich and Slavskiy.
The “radical individualists” have an advantage when the social system breaks down. They are not dependent on the system, and tend to survive better. The American frontier was, of necessity, composed of radical individualists who were also radical collectivists, capable of (for example) barn raising as a cooperative enterprise, also of military organization as a defense against Indian raids.
Groups of survivors would tend to organize along ethnic lines, if only to survive attacks against other ethnic groups. These groups are not doing that now only because the full weight of the State comes down to stop such organization. Where the full weight of the State does not come down, as in the various favored minority groups, ethnic organization is not only evident, but unmistakable.
Internationally, we’re seeing such self-organization along ethnic lines in the Russian Federation. Note that the result is not extermination, but rather separation. Different ethnicities have their own areas, if they are cohesive enough to defend it.
So, that’s how you rekindle national or racial consciousness in a country of radical individualists. Simply let society fail, shake and bake for maybe 300 years, and, bingo, you have your result. Granted, it’s brute force and massive ignorance mixed in with considerable and unavoidable cruelty, it it’s what’s worked the last several times around.
If you want a Jewish specific case of a social failure, consider the Kitos war. Jews were something like 20%-30% of the Roman Empire before this war, which was started by the Jewish diaspora in Crete, where every last non-Jew was killed, often in the Roman tradition as an event in a public arena, which ended the last Roman strategic offensive (against what is now Iraq) and put the Empire permanently on the defensive, and which ended Judaism as a major influence in the Empire. It also ended any possibility of shutting off the endemic wars with Persia, which were later (under Heraclius) the proximate cause of the reduction of the Roman empire to a Byzantine rump state. The Kitos war, and subsequent Roman reaction, eventually led to the survival of only three Jewish groups to the present. The Kitos war/loss and the later Roman loss of Europe also led to the formation of the West as it now exists. Starting that war was perhaps the most disastrous of all Jewish initiatives ever, even the two Jewish wars that preceded it and the Heraclius war that followed it.
Couldn’t happen again? Try pushing around nuclear powers, Iran and Russia, and see what happens. If you want real doom and gloom, see Roubini’s 2022 book, and remember that Roubini has a good track record and that I’ve tended to be an optimist
Change yourself and such change the Jewish World; “it is a Jewish World” – (Russia is fighting off a Jewish attack). Is Russia not fighting off a Jewish attack since 200 years or is it 3000 years? (re. “200 years “together””)
Change yourself by starting with family and friends in loyalty.
Loyalty to your family and friends instead of “freedom” (conditionally granted by the Jew).
Unconditional loyalty to your children is the way to go. That is why Jew & hyena try to disturb families permanently (e.g. by forcing mothers to work outside).
The family is the key and the Jew knows how to disturb the family.
Get married, have children and stay loyal to your children (and wife) no matter what.
Make sure wife and children are poverty proof.
And work, work and work more and be there for your children.
(Wifes are like children in many ways – need time and explanations).
That is the start of change – fortifying the own family.
No Jew media, no Jew pharma, no Jew religions; be the God, the guru of your own family.
Thanks, I was going to say that. The Spanish empire fell down thanks to the huge influence of the marranos in the Spanish Americas, most of them were Freemasons and they actively created chaos in the society (through the revolutions) and they fomented the “independencies”.
Ignacio de Loyola, founder of the Jesuit Order, was a marrano himself, and one of their goals was to infiltrate and destroy the Catholic church from inside, and seeing the Vatican council II they finished their job.
Well the modern world is undeniably the creation of West European peoples, not of Indians or Chinese, who were transformed by contact with the former. Whether those Oriental peoples had already invented much in mathematics, that did not propel them into modernity. All “progress” in India and China is due to copying the West. Perhaps Europeans are “superior” after all?
Picture: “modernity” in India:
There have been anarchic societies so the bulk of your first paragraph is bullshit. Even wikipedia has information on it. These societies didn’t last because they were probably overrun by warlords of their time. I’d like you to present the evidence of in which anarchy was not combined with an enormous mass of injustice, murder, etc
Now let’s look at modern times where information is more reliable since we are living through it. In just the 21st century, the US is responsible for the deaths of 20,000,000 people according to a now deceased researcher at the University of Hawaii, professor Rummel. https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/ Can you come up with anything during any time in history to compare to such evil, evil sponsored by gov’t.
Right now, we have the gov’t of Russia running roughshod over the civilians in Ukraine. We have the gov’t of Ukraine doing the same thing. The gov’t of the “west” are supplying weapons, currency, mercenaries, etc to make sure that the civilians in Ukraine keep getting killed. I don’t care about the morons in anyone’s military since they are the “carriers” of the mental disease known as gov’t that keeps murdering people and then they inspire shallow thinkers to champion all the death and destruction by studiously avoiding any mention of it.
I advocate the idea of anarchism which amount to not taking orders from the most degenerate fools in any society, the political class. I don’t expect anarchism to win out because the average person is too indoctrinated to consider what a world would be like without all the human filth at the top and the bottom. I champion the concept of anarchism so people start to think about how their love of “authority” is the world’s major problem because that “authority” is insane.
The US is even now gearing up for a conflict with nuclear Russia. Given your love of gov’t, it is you who will be responsible for what follows since it is you who provides support for the constant death and destruction that gov’t have engaged in in the latter 20th and current 21st century. To ignore all the carnage while singing the praises of the most comprehensive killing machine ever invented, you have the morals of a sewer rat.
I think that was their plan, but by the time the military operations are complete there won’t be any infrastructure left. Most of the infrastructure was constructed in the Soviet era and was decrepit and obsolete. Would Jews want to move into a place like that? Not hardly.
Remember that you are soul, you are ensouled and on the way up. That is why the Jew hates the white, light and bright and seeks their destruction. (Jew wants to be „The White“ only and exklusively, hence his „inclusion“ doctrine for the other).
This here – earthly life – is a short intermezzo, a very short tribute; the 100 year old will tell the listening children that life is so short.
Jew is also ensouled and regularly imprisoned in an entity (or more) on the way down. His destiny is the home of his father (Lucifer), the one he serves all his life at the cost of the other. Judaism is not a religion. The Talmud is a mafia codex. Judaism is Mafia. Judaism is inflation (hello Mr. Censor Kike Hudson!).
Forget the Jew, avoid the Jew, his „products“, his religions, his „markets“, his vicious politics. Even to talk and waste words about the sucker is a sucker. Avoid any cooperation and association with Jew & hyena – starting with tax evasion. When in Jewish occupied land do as the Jew – stop paying tax (to Jew & hyena governments). He will tax via inflation anyway, hence avoid his fake dollars etc. pp.
“Whites live in a state of moral confusion, caused by Jewish activism.”
A short but accurate analysis of the issue.
“You also have to assimilate that national-socialism isn’t a solution, it was a wild German autoimmune reaction caused by the Weimar degeneration.”
Not so wild. The Germans fought fire with fire. What were they supposed to do?
During the Second Jewish World War the Franklins forced Indians to pull up their railway tracks for canons for the occupiers…
India was once the pinnacle of humanity till the most violent Jewish (“British”) occupation took over and sucked the country dry (for how many centuries? 500 years?) and corrupted everyone and everything into total poverty and starvation. Starvation is an absolute game changer…
Now India is coming back to haunt “The West” with their “smart Indians”…
India is a nuclear power, mastering hypersonics etc., has a huge middle class and is just about to put up the next Brit prime minister…
Jewmerica is a nuclear power, not mastering hypersonics and getting poorer and more violent by the day.
By the way in India too the family seems to be the top priority.
At least they live in modern tents. Not so in India:
Notice, these are “normal” people, not degenerated drug addicts.
Uh, dude… the holocaust did not happen. There was no genocide planned, ordered, or carried out. Deporting them (Haavara Agreement) for the 1,030th time literally does not work. You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Up to 9 million dead Germans, 40+ million dead Europeans, countries that posed no threat whatsoever to Germany invaded and destroyed, sorry, what NS Germany did was a wild overreaction that killed a lot of innocent people and left the truly evil unscathed.
“…India was once the pinnacle of humanity…”
This is how Babur, who established Mughal Rule in India in 1526 (so long before those evil British could “destroy” it), described the “pinnacle of humanity”:
Source: https://www.historydiscussion.net/history-of-india/mughal-emperors/baburs-description-of-hindustan-indian-history/6592
Jews and Gypsies …. What are their differences and what are their similarities?
And perhaps Mankind has more than just these two. Perhaps there is a third and even a fourth ethnic tribe that we can add to this list of Jews & Gypsies? For example, perhaps there are ones to be found among the many ethnic tribes of Asia and Africa. Anyone?
Finally, is “the best JQ solution” a three-pronged approach?
— 1) Separate From the Tribe: A combination of targeted sexual outbreeding (as opposed to inbreeding which is not allowed or made to seem very ‘unfriendly’, or ‘shameful’, ‘separatist’, and especially ‘racist’). The Social Sciences can be used in this regard and put to this service.
— 2) Assimilate Into the Larger Tribe: An intentional watering down and then intentional chipping away at each and every particular cultural/religious/language practice? Thus over time, the eventual dissolving of their entire culture completely? Christianity can be used in this regard and put to this service.
— 3) Culturally it Pays To Separate & Assimilate: That is, Specific Actions are taken to intentionally create the right social structure condition whereby their passionate love of money will be used to strongly incentivize them to be in service to #1 & #2 above. These created social structures can be small, medium, and large. The right social structure reflects that if you are not outbreeding from the tribe and watering down culturally, then you can’t make money, indeed, it is taken away from you and all power is lost. Both carrot & stick. It is right here that the small white identity movement can then become HIGHLY FOCUSED on creating these small and large ‘social structures’ that work towards these ends. First comes mores, then simple customs, then codified transactional practices, then a moral framework, a legal framework, etc.
(Now the question of which other ethnic group is ideal to receive JQ assimilation is completely unanswered, but I don’t think it is an unimportant question or unscientific question. There probably is a lot of data out there, if we know where to look)
“…Now India is coming back to haunt “The West” with their “smart Indians”…
India is a nuclear power, mastering hypersonics etc., has a huge middle class and is just about to put up the next Brit prime minister…”
Well, on its “march to modernity” hopefully India at long last (after 3500 years?) will be able to solve this problem:
Source: https://newrepublic.com/article/153549/indias-futile-war-open-defecation
Speaking of dim memories, when I was in college we were assigned a book on the causes of WW II that delved into the reasons Germans were fed up with the Jews. In the aftermath of WW I, when so many German farmers had died on the battlefields, the Jews, who sat out the war at home as they do every war, foreclosed on the dead soldiers’ farms and homes with abandon and relished in throwing German widows with children in the street.
Jews are mankind’s most egregious predators and yet, because they control nearly every determinant of public opinion, they’re collectively treated as the ontologically pure victim supplanting all others. There aren’t five members of Congress or talking heads on TV, for example, whose actions and words don’t effectively replace Christ with the Jews.
Everything Jews hold dearest is the new American Way—war profiteering; abortion; sexual mutilation of the troubled children most deserving of our society’s protection; usury; pornography; rank commercialism replacing all holy days but theirs; ad nauseam.
‘ Given your love of gov’t, it is you who will be responsible for what follows since it is you who provides support for the constant death and destruction that gov’t have engaged in in the latter 20th and current 21st century. To ignore all the carnage while singing the praises of the most comprehensive killing machine ever invented, you have the morals of a sewer rat.’- said it to the Jews?
https://www.unz.com/article/for-its-security-and-survival-china-must-understand-rothschild-zionism/
I don’t have to like you! donthavetolikeyou.com >> When will someone with balls sue the federal government for siding with various ethnic groups and elevating them to protected classes of people? WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO NOT LIKE YOU! The government can’t counter with anything. Please someone sue the federal government for supporting and spending our tax dollars promoting anti-jew laws from people who simply don’t like them. It is our right to have an opinion or a dislike! And I dislike fake ass evil jews!! Remember, it’s the fake ass evil jews who hate everyone! Right back at cha!
I want to warn my fellow White people, and dear antisemites, that I am a Jew, so everything I say should be taken with suspicion or disregarded entirely – I am more than likely trying to brainwash you and weaken you so I can take control of your tender and defenseless young minds 🙂
Well, the author is certainly correct that the only chance Whites have to develop a corporate identity is through religion and ideology – only, this is the only way any people develop a corporate identity, contrary to the fantasy concept of some kind of “natural” ethnocentrism 🙂
As the worlds countless civil wars and fratricidal bloodlusts amply demonstrate, there is no such thing as natural ethnocentrism. Ethnocentrism is itself an ideology one must be educated/propagandized into, or adopt philosophically.
Likewise, each self-conscious nation is an amalgam of physical types, often quite disparate phenotypically (the blond, fair skinned, blue eyed Englishman alongside the strikingly different black haired, brown eyed, olive skinned Briton), united by a corporate idea. (The contrast of types is even more striking in Spain or Italy or Israel).
So far so good for the author’s thesis.
One major aspect of returning to health for White people is surely to abandon crude biologism of the kind that deconstructed their identities to begin with and return to an appreciation for “Mind”, so to speak.
The turn away from Mind and towards crude biological reductionism is surely one of the major causes of White decadence to begin with.
However, the real problem with the author’s thesis is that he is attempting something I might describe as “limited universalism” – Whites are invited to identify with something more universal than their narrow selves, but this impulse is supposed to be carefully circumscribed, and stop at the level of race.
Problem is, as the history of all religion shows, once the genie of universalism is out of the bag, it has a momentum all its own – once you learn to see beyond the narrow confines of your petty self, you have set out on the path towards empathy and compassion for all races and peoples.
Tribalism is merely a stage on the way to universalism. Once you abandon individualism, you have embarked on a path whose inevitable end is universal compassion and empathy.
Moreover, all “higher religion” culminates in identity of Self with World (tat tvam assi, You are That, I am Atman), which isn’t very conducive to the flourishing of racism.
There used to be a commenter on this site named Rosie, who was a White racist but also a feminist, who was aghast at the general hatred for women manifested by White racists, as exemplified by Andrew Anglin and his ilk.
Rosie wanted desperately to keep the racism, but not the woman hatred – I tried gently explaining to her that once you let the demon of exclusivity out of the bag, it has a momentum of its own.
The same impulse that makes someone hate other races, will make a man hate and fear, and want to subjugate and control, women – because to a man, women are no less the “other” than other races.
Of course, she refused to accept the inescapable logic of this – but on some level she must have, because she no longer posts here, it seems.
People who advocate for a return to a Pagan style national consciousness – or what they imagine this to be – and away from the universalism of Christianity forget that late antique Paganism was already universalist and remarkably similar to Christianity.
When the emperor Julian tried to stamp out Christianity and return the empire to Paganism, his version of Paganism was remarkably similar to the Christianity he was trying to displace!
The fact is, that limited national consciousness is a stage on the path towards universalism, as history shows, and today it is only possible for peoples on the periphery, or who are on earlier stages of the historical path – or during brief periods of recrudescence, as in the mid-20th century.
Which is not to say some group of Whites cannot form a national consciousness, somewhere – only, this is unlikely to galvanize the larger part of the White world, or attract the more talented and spiritually ambitious members of the White race.
This is also not to say that we won’t undergo again a period of recrudescence – those always happen, but are always limited in scope and duration, a sort of step back before history advances – and there are signs that as the old “idea” that held together our civilization, the idea of technological progress, falls apart as an animating principle, in the chaos and confusion people are searching for an anchor.
Now we live in times of the breakdown of the old animating principle of civilization, and during a period of confusion and chaos. It’s natural to want to seek safety in old forms.
But what will truly revitalize the White race and imbue it with a renewed sense of mission – and what will truly revitalize all other races as well and the whole world – is a new “grand idee”, a new universal principle or idea upon which one can build a new civilization – with a new promise and a new hope of Heaven.
The whole world groans under the death of the old promise of Heaven, technological progress. Some countries are in denial, like China, but they suffer just as much from the loss of an animating principle, however desperately they cling to absurd technocratic policies like Zero COVID – indeed, that policy demonstrates better than anything the death of the grand old idea of technological progress in absurdity and pettiness.
The Whole World waits in anticipation of something new that will be revealed – some new concept of Heaven that can inspire and galvanize.
I can’t claim to have any idea what it will be, but I suspect it will be at once ancient and strikingly new.
One forgets that towards the end of the Ancient World, on the cusp of Christianity, there was a sense of exhaustion and weariness, as the old cultural forms and animating principles had played themselves out. Nietzsche said that had Christianity not come with a new hope, there would have been mass suicides, as friends made suicide pacts to leave a world overshadowed by a sense of sheer futility.
Today, we find ourselves once again facing this ancient but ever new situation.
The controllers, jews and assorted other sociopaths, use gov’t for its muscle. Without gov’t, they would be powerless. It’s the guy with the gun that gets what he wants at least for a time. It’s the institution of gov’t that is there for capture to use its violent nature for profit at the expense of the decent people in the society.
I’m still waiting for any proof of your ludicrous assertion that anarchism is a murder machine. You can’t produce any proof because you are full of shit.
Anarchists did not try to carry out genocide against the Armenians in Turkey; they did not deliberately starve millions of Ukrainians; they did not create a system of death camps to kill Jews, gypsies, and Slavs in Europe; they did not fire-bomb scores of large German and Japanese cities and drop nuclear bombs on two of them; they did not carry out a ‘Great Leap Forward’ that killed scores of millions of Chinese; they did not attempt to kill everybody with any appreciable education in Cambodia; they did not launch one aggressive war after another; they did not implement trade sanctions that killed perhaps 500,000 Iraqi children.
In debates between anarchists and statists, the burden of proof clearly should rest on those who place their trust in the state. Anarchy’s mayhem is wholly conjectural; the state’s mayhem is undeniably, factually horrendous.
Robert Higgs
Biff and his cabal of Chink trolls are a group who admonish the West BUT live in the West. A bunch of slanty eyed mutts biting the white hand that feeds them.
They wont set foot in China because contrary to popular belief that country aint no new age Utopia. There are more Dinks living in the West than Westerners living in Slopelandia. The Chinese come to the West to be slaves and prostitutes to their own or be relegated to desperate Negro ghettoes. There they scrounge around for any job to pay the bills and risk being beaten or killed up by the Niggers.
You wont find one white man who would stow away in a container with 100 other people and sail east to a life of slavery or a Shanghai slum.
Biff, MumboJumbo Brain and the lot are worse than cheap whores. They suck white cock and complain but still enjoy the small change we put in their cheap clothes.
These are the people who believe they were born to rule the world ! There is no delusion worse than Chinese delusion !
The German reaction to the destruction of their nation by organized jewry was tit for tat.
I keep asking, over and over and over, what were the Germans supposed to do?
And since we are now in the same position as the hapless Germans….what are we supposed to do?
You are blaming the Germans for what the jews did to THEM.
If not for the aggression of communist jews, there would have been no German reaction.
Let’s be honest here and put the blame where it belongs.
1) As to “contributed very little”, I beg to differ. Heinrich Heine, Stefan Zweig, Franz Kafka, Felix Mendelssohn-Bartholdy and Gustav Mahler are top notch.
2) As to “legends and myths from the people that they came into contact with”, this is true enough:
“Cette vision est bien sûr basée sur celle de la théologie idéologique de l’expansion des Empires mésopotamiens pour le compte de leurs Reichsgötter, respectivement Assur et Mardouk, cf encore Enūma eliš VI 95-110: i–hu-ru-nim-ma DINGIR.DINGIR GAL.GAL (etc) // This vision of course is based on that of the theological ideology of the expansion of the Mesopotamian Empires for the account of their Reichsgötter, respectively Assur and Marduk, cf again Enūma eliš VI 95-110: i–hu-ru-nim-ma DINGIR.DINGIR GAL.GAL (etc)“, in: Die Entstehung einer Weltreligion VI, Verlag Schiler & Mücke, Berlin und Tübingen 2021, p. 482.
Recommend reading this book, The Controversy of Zion and also The Protocols of Zion.
I just don’t know why Jews always try to destroy the societies/countries that accepted them. Why do they never appreciate what others do for them and why is it never enough done for them? Poles were giving lives to save them from nazis and other Jews ( prof Henry Makow writes about it) but know they say “Poles din’t do enough”. It was the death punishment for helping Jew in Poland. Would any Jew give life to save non Jew? I don’t think so. Cruel kapo from Auschwitz concentration camp was freed by Israeli judge and the excuse was “he did it to save his life”. So, a Jew can do anything to save his life but non Jew has to sacrifice his life for a Jew? This all doesn’t make any sense unless Jews believe they are superior race /or the only humans ( the rest are animals- as Yuval Harriri believes) .
The old testament has been recently commented and partially translated by Mauro Biglino. A must.
The same was happening in Poland when Poles were fighting in uprises for Poland independence. Jews were telling occupation forces who is in underground fighting them and then when Poles were taken to Siberia’s prison camps they will buy for pennies their homes. It happened to my great grandfather who was taken from Poland to Siberia prison camp and spend there 16 years. My father spend there 4 years after WWII sentenced by “judges” with Jewish nam. This is how there repay them for saving their lives.
Another problem that bedevils the White Nationalist movement, that is amply evident here but shows up throughout the movement, is what I’d call a paucity of mythological imagination – or an impoverished psychological sense.
In mythological terms, who willingly wishes to see themselves as herbivores – who willingly defines their “essence” as being sheep who are natural prey to their antagonists?
For Jews, in mythological terms being sheeplike is a term of humiliation – Jews who did not resist Hitler are said to have gone to the gas chambers like sheep, and it’s considered shameful and humiliating, an aberration even, something that needed immediate correction to restore a more “normal” state.
Yet here, the author encourages White people to see themselves precisely as “innate” herbivores!
What sort of psychology would reflexively reach for that term as for the most potent myth on which to build a national struggle? In one stroke, you’ve eliminated the possibility of talented and spiritually ambitious White people being attracted to your movement.
Proud, self confident people don’t want to define themselves as herbivores lol 🙂
This is the problem for White nationalism more generally. Steve Sailer and Jared Taylor, for instance, define the essence of Whiteness as the ability to build pleasant environments in which to live.
Taylor especially loves to trot out his observation that you’d rather live in socialist Scandinavia than a capitalist African country, so it’s not political systems but race that is determinative.
That point certainly isn’t proven, but the larger issue is that in mythological terms, this isn’t galvanizing – it’s vapid!
We should know by now that man’s moral and spiritual imagination needs to be fed, and a “grand story” that is merely about comfort or “pleasantness” isn’t up to the job. No one will sacrifice for that.
For that matter, if comfort and pleasantness are our sole yardstick, it makes most sense to simply surrender to whatever power calls the shots.
Similarly with the invitation to see oneself as a herbivore who is being preyed on by Jewish wolves – quite aside from the lack of dignity or “mythic grandeur” in being sheep, the appeal is primarily to mere self-preservation.
But if mere self-preservation is our yardstick, its easier to just submit – there is no call to heroic resistance.
If you want to inspire a capacity for self sacrifice and heroic resistance to the ruling regime, you need to feed men’s moral and spiritual imagination – not merely appeal to some materialistic factor.
Despite it’s pretensions to re-galvanize White people, White Nationalism can be seen as just another branch of modern decadence in the Nietzschean sense – in that it embodies weakness and a sense of exhaustion, it has no grand spiritual narrative but focuses on materialistic factors, often quite petty, and creates a self-portrait of Whites (herbivores, manipulable, weak, mediocre) as deeply unflattering as its worst detractors might wish.
Probably the first step is to abandon crude biologism and restore Mind to it’s central place in the economy of human life.
Come up with a Grand Spiritual Narrative – but then, such a narrative would naturally not be able to be confined within the narrow bounds of racial grievance, which is ultimately not very noble or grand.
Ultimately, people crave nobility and grandeur, and petty resentments can only hold them for so long. Christianity was, at the very least, noble, grand, and universal.
Whatever will come to replace it has to be similar. Removing parasites or whatever will not, I think, cut it.
It will soon be against the law to hurt the feelings of a jew.
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You’re proving your point that this society was created by western liberal democracy. Good work.
“Society, if it is conceptualized as a living organism, would quickly reach parasitical overload. The host would succumb to disease and keel over eventually.”
This is one of the best points.
The West is now like a mad beast in its death throes. The parasites have walked it into a swamp, and now its only hope is to gain time by cannibalizing itself, while hoping to cause the collapse of others to continue its feeding frenzy.
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“…Similarly with the invitation to see oneself as a herbivore who is being preyed on by Jewish wolves – quite aside from the lack of dignity or “mythic grandeur” in being sheep, the appeal is primarily to mere self-preservation…”
It is exactly Christianity that admonishes its believers to see themselves as “sheep” and sweet Jesus as their “shepherd”. It is not for nothing that a Christian cleric is called a “pastor”.
Notice that Catholic bishops carry a shepherd staff, that is because we are supposed to be his “sheep”. See picture:
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You are correct, and I was actually going to write about this in my original comment.
In the Psalms and other Jewish writing, Jews are also portrayed as sheep in relation to God, who is the shepherd.
To be “God’s flock” does not strike me as degrading, rather even the opposite – but to define your relationship to your supposed enemy as cattle in relation to a predator, and not as a temporary situation but as reflecting your deep nature, does strike me as degrading.
Doesn’t it strike you that way?
From the mythic narrative point of view, I think it shows really poor grasp of human psychology.
To be honest, the whole antisemitism narrative – at least the “strong” antisemitism narrative – seems inherently degrading as it currently stands.
There are different stories you can tell yourself.
The story that modern Western decadence is the result of a glorious Faustian cultural efflorescence that surpassed every other culture but ultimately reached too high, and tragically contained within itself the seeds of its own demise, has not only the virtue of being historically accurate but is a lofty self-image.
On this basis, the work of Western regeneration can begin in a positive, realistic way, based on lessons learned.
The story that European peoples are notable chiefly for creating pleasant living conditions, but are otherwise mediocre, and who are mentally weak and easily manipulated and dominated by a handful of Jews who managed to completely brainwash them and take over – is both degrading and massively does not match the historical, literary, intellectual, or artistic record (for one thing, the literary record makes clear profound disillusion with European culture trends much predated Jews rise).
It should even be possible to be antisemitic in not this degrading sense – however, it is true that having antisemitism as your central explanatory principle necessarily involves degrading oneself.
Serbs never attacked Germany. Serbs never posed anything remotely resembling a threat to Germany yet Germany attacked Serbs thrice in the 20th century. Greeks never posed a threat to Germany yet Germans invaded Greece too. With all due respect for the positive contributions to the Mankind by Germans throughout History and though I’m not exactly fond of the Ashkenazim, excuse me for not being grateful for the over 1 milion deaths Germans have caused among Serbs in the course of the 20th century.
Truth is, there might be a future for national consciousness and the national idea, but I think it would have to be in the context of a wider universalist moral vision.
In other words, I don’t think nationalism as crude biologism and entirely for the purpose of sustaining or defending a particular race – for simple materialistic reasons – is a big enough or noble enough vision to sustain a high civilization, which always orients itself towards an “ideal”.
Even Jewish nationalism exists within a larger universalist context of God’s people being a light unto the nations who show the way etc, etc.
Arrogant, sure, but it’s a moral vision.
Europe, too, colonized the world based on a sense of civilizing mission.
Sure, in all cases this idealism conceals much selfish greed and hypocrisy – but it is also very real to many people.
To sustain a sense of nationhood, one must have an “ideal” that your nation is specially oriented to, and a universal vision for humanity and an understanding of your special role in relation to that universal vision – which must ultimately be moral and spiritual.
Unity within diversity.
“Hearth and home”, and self preservation in general, are natural impulses.- but for that reason, can only flourish in the absence of powerful forces that attack them, and those will always arise. Even without external attack, such basic aspects of life don’t fully satisfy us.
National consciousness can’t just be based on biology – it must be based on an “ideal”, it seems to me.
It’s a striking thing, surely, but has anyone noticed that national consciousness in the West was destroyed alongside religion and idealism of any kind – under the corrosive acid of Darwinism and materialism?
Racial nationalism or Biological Nationalism – utterly divested of any and all idealism – seems a peculiarly modern attempt to establish spiritual entities on materialistic foundations – and similarly doomed to failure.
“The Jews then claimed that their knock-off copy predated the originals and took credit for what they stole.”
That’s Chutzpah!
Martin Luther’s On the Jews and their Lies is must reading.
Rich, coming from a self-avowed “fellow white,” who is an ardent Zionist, LOL.
No, the whole world waits for “fellow whites” to stop gaslighting us about the Big Lie, Tikkun olam, Hebrew for “fixing or mending the world.”
“Fellow whites” are responsible for the slaughter of tens of millions of innocent Goyim with phase 1 of Tikkun olam, Communism. We’ll see how many the slaughter in phase 2 of Tikkun olam, Wokeism.
We’re tired of being Tikkun olammed to death. So, I for one would strongly urge European peoples to say thanks but no thanks to any of your future phases of Tikkun olam. We simply tired of being gaslighted.
Light unto the nations? Yeah, right… more like a gaslight unto the nations.
Jews have to be “the bride at every wedding” and “the corpse at every funeral”.
It’s in their blood. Jews are parasites, living off their respective “host” countries.
Once jews achieve control, they always overstep their welcome in their host country and eventually the “host” expels the parasitic jewish invaders.
All one has to do is look back through history and observe the excesses of the Wiemar Republic which the jews used to their own advantage. The average impoverished German did not have “a pot to p!ss in” while his wealthy jewish neighbors were trading food for land.
It is a loosely-guarded secret that most European jews HATE the physical landmass of israel as it is too “middle eastern” (arabic) for European jews…
Parasitic jews have already set their sights on Ukraine, which is an ideal headquarters and epicenter for jewish criminal enterprises as it is located on the European continent. The USA is already embroiled in the Ukraine war which is about to explode into WW3. It starts out with military equipment and hardware “help” as well as shekels.
There are no easy solutions for the parasitic jew problem, but solutions are indeed necessary.
Staying out of (another) European war for the benefit of the jews is imperative.
Jews always destroy the societies that they invade as it is in their Talmud to do so.
You see, according to the Talmud, gentile “souls” are on the level of livestock, “to be used for the benefit of the jews”.
According to their Talmud, the jewish “soul” is on a “higher plane” than the gentile soul, and as such, gentiles are to be used and abused by jews.
To this day, jews have never repudiated slavery, and claim when their “messiah” arrives, each jew will be awarded many gentile slaves.
It’s jewish supremacy that is alive and well.
I totally agree. Romano-Germanic peoples? No mention of the unparalleled contributions by the Greeks.
Introduction to 15 Famous Greek Mathematicians and Their Contributions:
Click “more” to see all 15 famous Greek mathematicians and their unparalleled contributions to mathematics…
1. Euclid
Euclid He was also known as Euclid of Alexandria and referred as the father of geometry deduced the Euclidean geometry. The name has it all, which in Greek means “renowned, glorious”. He worked his entire life in the field of mathematics and made revolutionary contributions to geometry.
2. Pythagoras
Pythagoras The famous ‘Pythagoras theorem’, yes the same one we have struggled through in our childhood during our challenging math classes. This genius achieved in his contributions in mathematics and become the father of the theorem of Pythagoras. Born is Samos, Greece and fled off to Egypt and maybe India. This great mathematician is most prominently known for, what else but, for his Pythagoras theorem.
3. Archimedes
Archimedes Archimedes is yet another great talent from the land of the Greek. He thrived for gaining knowledge in mathematical education and made various contributions. He is best known for antiquity and the invention of compound pulleys and screw pump.
4. Thales of Miletus
Thales of Miletus He was the first individual to whom a mathematical discovery was attributed. He’s best known for his work in calculating the heights of pyramids and the distance of the ships from the shore using geometry.
5. Aristotle
Aristotle Aristotle had a diverse knowledge over various areas including mathematics, geology, physics, metaphysics, biology, medicine and psychology. He was a pupil of Plato therefore it’s not a surprise that he had a vast knowledge and made contributions towards Platonism. Tutored Alexander the Great and established a library which aided in the production of hundred of books.
6. Diophantus
Diophantus He was a Hellenistic Greek mathematician and was best known as the father of algebra and attributed to a series of books. His equations can be defined as polynomial equations in several unknowns. The compilations of his books were called Arithmetica.
7. Eratosthenes
Eratosthenes He’s best known as the person who calculated the circumference of the earth, also the first one to calculate the tilt of the Earth’s axis. Both of the calculations were remarkably accurate, therefore he became world famous for his incredibly accurate calculations.
8. Hipparchus
Hipparchus The intelligent and perspicacious Hipparchus, ancient Greek mythologist made many mathematical contributions throughout his lifetime. He was the founder of trigonometry and the first to develop a reliable method to predict solar eclipses. He possessed the first mathematical trigonometric table.
9. Hero of Alexandria
Hero of Alexandria He described a method for iteratively computing the square root of a number. This method is known as the Hero’s formula in today’s world, thereby gaining became more famously known as the ‘Hero of Alexandria’.
10. Ptolemy
Ptolemy Ptolemy was a famous mathematician, astronomer, geographer, astrologer and a poet of a single epigram in Greek Anthology.
The author/writer and mathematician took the advantage of his knowledge over the two fields to write several scientific researches. The Great treatise is one of his renowned works now known as Almagest.
11. Xenocrates
Xenocrates Xenocrates of Chalcedon was a Greek philosopher, mathematician, and leader (scholarch) of the Platonic Academy from 339/8 to 314/3 BC.
Xenocrates is known to have written a book on numbers, theory of numbers and geometry. He had the unique talent of calculating the syllables out of an alphabet. One attempted to find the total number of syllables that could be made from the letters of the alphabet.
12. Anaxagoras
Anaxagoras Anaxagoras gave a number of novel scientific accounts of natural phenomena. Due to his exceptional knowledge over mathematics and astronomy, he produced the correct explanation of eclipses and description of the sun as a fiery mass larger than the Peloponnese. He also explained meteors and rainbows.
13. Hypatia
Hypatia Hypaitia of Alexandria was the daughter of a mathematician and took her father as an inspiration to become a mathematician herself. Not only was she a mathematician but a philosopher as well. She taught as the head at a school, her subject was the knowledge of Plato and Aristotle. She is the first woman to make valuable contributions in the field of mathematics. Hypaitia was the first woman to take the bold step to pursue with her dreams and became an inspiration to many young women who became the world’s most famous geniuses ever.
14. Antiphon
Antiphon was the first to give an upper and lower bound for the values of Pi by inscribing and then circumscribing a polygon around a circle and finally proceeding to calculate the polygons areas. The method was applied to squaring the circle. He made comprehensive changes in the world of mathematics through his profound knowledge over the subject such that is known and applied in the modern day.
15. Diocles
Diocles was a philosopher, priest, an emperor, mathematician and geometer. This famous mathematician was most popularly known for his work in the sub classification of geometry. His name is associated with the geometric curve called the Cissoid of Diocles. This method was used in solving the problem of doubling the cube.
“…The folks around here that are Hitler cheerleaders are ignoring his contribution to WWII…”
Would you care to elaborate on that???
Hitler made more peace offerings, even at the peak of German power, than all other “statesmen” combined. There never were even any reasonable counter offers!
Of course, you may assert that Hitler’s efforts to consolidate Europe’s German speaking regions into the German Reich was war mongering but, this freely chosen association voted on by the various regions to join the Reich, was part and parcel of the Treaty of Versailles, or maybe it was part of Wilson’s 14 point plan; I forget. Nonetheless, this freedom of populations to associate was a result of WW I.
In explaining Solzhenitsyn’s take on God’s role in using Jews (or anyone else for that matter) in punishing his people (Christians) for their sins, there would be quite a difference in the extended approach. The Biblical Jewish approach would be -OK, we digressed in our observance of Torah and all the mitzvot connected to it. We really screwed up, so now we have the Babylonians, Romans, Nazis Tsars and other assorted goyim kicking our asses. But does the Jew really change? I may be totally off base, but Jews have a very limited perspective on an afterlife. Their concepts are very underdeveloped. Because of this, they do not have the fear (or as much fear) of hell and eternal punishment or the joy of heaven and eternal life with the divine to provide motivation in pursuing a substantive change in behavior. The Christian, when confronted with adversity, be it in the form of natural disasters or religious persecution, is far more conscious of a far more developed heaven/hell dynamic, and therefore more motivated to correct whatever wrongs he/she may have done in the past.
You are absolutely right that Nazi Germany was build with heavy aid by finance power from NY and London especially big business. They were not alone in receiving aid, look at the Red machine also.
A. Sutton explains the British wanted to push the Germans east at all costs (partly succeeded).
The British establishment also wanted: France weakened, the countries in between Germany and Soviet to be eradicated and Soviet Union destroyed.
I cant tell if Hitler was an agent but the Nazis were aided greatly in the 20s and 30s and went their own way by the beginning of the war.
Europe became a ruined continent, tens of millions Europeans slaughtered, dozens of cities disappeared.
And the Americans and Jews won. The first became the dominant power, largely undamaged.
The second group got Israel and the Jews became ultra rich and powerful. Today Europe is under their boot.
Hitler send millions of the best men to their death. Stalin did the same. Completely mismanaged situation. Apparently they are heroes to some sadly.
Anarchists and Marxists are basically buddies on the far left end of the spectrum.
Anarchists and many libertarians are utopians who dont understand reality. Very similar to the Marxists. They dream of things which cant function on large scales. They will be coopted by other systems.
Governments (or organized power) are natural whether they are small or big regardless. There needs to be authority and order. Does it mean I praise governments no. But in a world where governments exist power, other governments will naturally try to balance things and become powerful.
The American militia experiment was abandoned and they changed to the standing army for a reason. If you want anarchy in a country, you will have to compete against foreign governments and organized power from elsewhere and lose.
One million Servian deaths over the course of the 20th century at the hands of the Germans?! Next time, have your illiterate Gavrilo Princip not murder Archduke Franz Ferdinand, his wife and their unborn child at the behest of The British Empire, and you’ll avoid suffering and ‘suffering.’
PS: The Serv lies and mythologizes second to only the Jew. Both are asiatic liars.
Anarchy is obvious superstition
It is noteworthy that anarchists do not always deny the necessity of all authority, but only of the authority of sanctions.
Anarchists are humanists, for Chriss-saKes! They are fully rational. The “actual” Golden Rule counts.
They do not give tribute to any force or entity that wishes to project authority by inhumanistic, coercive means. They also tend not to put financial and societal restrictions on others, otherwise they wouldn’t be anarchists. To do so would be against humanity.
Ok, but you’re misunderstanding me.
I’m trying to help you do White Nationalism right 🙂
You guys are doing such a bad job of it it’s painful to watch.
There’s a reason you’re failing to attract high quality Whites.
You can’t just be negative. Resentment and anger are fine up to a point – but all true nations and civilizations are based on striving for an “ideal”. You can’t just do biological reductionism, either, and talk only of material factors.
You need a moral vision.
Your vision of the relationship between Whites and Jews is so flattering to Jews and so insulting to Whites that no self confident White person will have any interest – you can’t make Whites look like total dorks and Jews all look like the Fonz, down to actually calling Whites actual herbivores!
You gotta give Whites at least something cool and badass about them – and no, making nice cities won’t cut it.
Now, there can be lots of hypocrisy and failing to live up to ideals and the like, but you gotta have those ideals to begin with.
Now, it may be galling to take advice from a Jew on how to be an effective antisemite, but you guys are so into self-humiliation when it comes to Jews that I can’t imagine you’d much mind – if anything, your innate masochism will appreciate it.
So no biological reductionism but a spiritual and moral vision, and a mythic self-narrative that is not completely humiliating to your side.
This isn’t a hard bar to cross! Basic, nation-building stuff here, folks, err, fellow White people.
Next time, have your degenerate German-speaking Austrian mongrels not annex a land that has had a majority Serb population since the early Middle Age and parade through a majority Serb city on the anniversary of the battle of Kosovo. Gavrilo Princip was at home in Sarajevo, Franz-Ferdinand wasn’t, he was an invading p o s. When I think of it, neither enough Germans nor Jews have died during WW2. The world would be a much better place without both. Sometimes I really wish that this war go nuclear. A world without Jewish or Nazi scum would definitely be a better place.
Btw, the official version that Princip who was short-sighted and missed an oak beyond 5m 9 times out of 10 killed Franz-Ferdinand is as credible as the official version that Oswald killed JFK or Sirhan Sirhan his brother Robert.
No mention of the Anschluss. How convenient for you.
Let’s back way the hell up. Hitler was the Capo di tutti capi of the German mafia known as it’s gov’t. He was a thug. He had issues with the other mafia Dons in Poland, and elsewhere that eventually led to fighting that killed millions of innocent civilians that never asked to be part of any insane war. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Roosevelt, Churchill, etc were all involved in inciting a war that decimated their home populations which means they were all mass murderers. There isn’t an innocent “leader” among all the warring countries.
You apparently come from the position that the assholes known as “leaders” have the right to drag their populations into some conflict that will kill many of them and destroy massive amounts of infrastructure. This is a common position from people that are statists lacking morals and believe that declaring war somehow justifies all the carnage. It doesn’t matter which asshole started it, the end result is mass death and destruction because some “leaders” decided to flex their muscles, muscles in the form of the human shit that IS every country’s military.
I come from the position that it’s the advent of “leaders” that are directly responsible for every war ever initiated and their grudges also stem from the advent of “leaders” that can’t get along. Their squabbles exist because they exist and only because they exist.
Let’s look at Ukraine. It’s the “leaders” in both Ukraine and Russia that have decided to roll over the civilians in Ukraine and enslave parts of their home populations as conscripts. No one has the right to do this. This is done by “leaders” that have manufactured a faux right by virtue of them being thugs that are the heads of their criminal mafias commonly referred to as governments. That’s what all governments are, common criminal enterprises indistinguishable from the common mafias.
The grudge was the Ukraine “leader” murdering ethnic Russians in the east. The solution decided upon by the “leader” in Russia is not to take out the “leader” and his murdering supporters in his military, but to roll through Ukraine destroying civilians and their property. It’s the “leaders” that invent the grudge and then their version of a solution that kills not just their mafia members, but the common people. If Putin and Zelenskiy wanted to kill each others militaries and then each other, I would say go for it because they are both worth shit.
LOL. Talk about chutzpah! Our resident “fellow white” lecturing actual whites on how to build a civilization?
The irony is too much… never building a truly great civilization of their own, your people have specialized for over two millennia in infiltrating, subverting, and destroying our advanced civilizations. But if you ask them they’ll say they were just guilty of bringing us Tikkun olam.
Need proof? Listen to how they trained one of their pet Shabbos goys, Chris Cuomo, on the blessing of Tikkun olam:
Infiltration, subversion, and destruction never sounded so good… right, goy?
Rothschild and the illuminati’s 13 bloodlines would be my own tail on the geo-political donkey.Rockefeller tankers alongside O’nassis were supplying Germany, remarkably unscathed from subs or bombers.I-G Farben,IBM,Ford (bloodline corporates) all steered and profited from a war that was abundant in strategic objectives.All roads lead to the Cabal-AKA-Khazarian/Jesuits tag-team.
Haxo said nothing about “deportation” as a solution. You
can no more contain the Jews in a ghetto/ghetto-state
than contain a tiger in a paper cage. But
go ahead, pomo…
keep on lying about the Nazi-Zionist Jew massacre in WW2 Europe.
it will alter nothing,
least of all the current JewGlobohomo extermination
of the world’s remnant white population. Basically,
you and the other CODOH idiots function as a hasbara.
That is a beautiful quote, thank you.
It’s only a shame Cuomo needed a Jew to tell him something like this. These ideas are equally embedded in Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, and Hinduism – all higher religions.
The Jewish version you just quoted is good, but I am partial to the Buddhist version. In this version, a Bodhisattva earns the right to Nirvana, but out of boundless compassion agrees to reincarnate repeatedly in order to save every last sentient being.
Now that’s some impressive Tikkun Olam!
As for myself, in my own small and limited way I am doing Tikkun Olam by helping you build a better White Nationalism – which can only be by embarking on a spiritual and moral quest, a White Nationalist version of Tikkun Olam, if you will.
You guys are still foundering about in the shallows of materialism and crude biological reductionism, calling yourselves herbivores and generally insulting yourselves, at best, talking about parasites – not inspiring stuff here.
This Jew has taken pity on you and has decided, Bodhisattva like, to render assistance where there is dire need of it.
so much stupid this kills my buzz.
Agree & Thanks ☮
All leaders. Why blame Hitler? Do you consider force the same as violence? You should. Force is applied in various ways, not only physical force.
You are so ignorant concerning Adolf Hitler and his leadership, and the three German Reichs, you wouldn’t last 10 minutes in a debate with a knowledgeable person.
I blame all “leaders”, not just Hitler. They all led their people to slaughter.
You can’t back up your ignorant comment, can you? Why not actually produce an argument from your perspective instead of blanked assertions and insults. Can you do that or are you just here as a waste of time?
I guess I don’t have to worry about debating you since you’re obviously NOT a knowledgeable person.
Austria-Hungary was hardly a German Empire. Hitler did not consider it to be and he refused to serve for them, joining the Bavarian army instead.
Hitler attacking Yugoslavia can not come as a surprise when that country first makes a deal with Germany, then has a revolution (engineered by England) joining Germany’s enemies right on the eve of a major operation. Greece had nothing to do with Germany, it was Mussolini’s adventure and they had to come clean it up. Hitler always spoke of the Greeks with respect.
In every case Germany are not seeking any conflict in these areas but are dragged in by foolish moves of others. Their fault is to rely on these nations in the first place.
That “gypsies, homosexuals, johavah’s witnesses, 7th day Adventists, socialists, communists, & 100000’s of miscellaneous” suffered a “holocaust” is a falsehood of the 1st order. Some of them were detained in work camps for a period of time, where they did very well and suffered hardly at all except for the fact of being detained. The gypsies were not even required to work because they were too untrustworthy. They lived in separate family camps — perhaps so they wouldn’t rob and steal from non-gypsies. After the war, they caught on to and copied the Jewish model of wildly exaggerating their “losses” by around 10, and even more. The real number of total gypsy fatalities, around 20,000 (most of them from natural causes), morphed into 200,000 once the enemies of Germany showed them how to work the scam. They’re naturals at it and have done very well, now given ‘special treatment’ in post-war Germany. The gypsies, and the Jews too, can claim nothing but benefit from their “ordeal.”
‘Light unto the nations? Yeah, right … more like a gaslight unto the nations.’ — geokat62
The gaslight burns bright, as the New York Slimes celebrates the bitter fruit of the 1965 Hart-Celler immigration ‘reforms’:
Their America Is Vanishing. Like Trump, They Insist They were Cheated.
A shrinking white majority is hallmark of the districts held by the Republicans who rejected Donald Trump’s 2020 defeat, a Times analysis found.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/23/us/politics/republican-election-objectors-demographics.html
Attention, NYT: the unlettered migrants you champion don’t read uppity middlebrow ‘news’ papers that cater to a core urban-Jewish subscriber base.
Demographics is destiny …
There was nothing wrong with the pagan faith that Christianity so slyly supplanted.
There is no reason the peoples of the west cannot return to the native faith of their ancestors, a faith which evolved to speak their truths and serve their interests, not those of foreign tribes.
Under Hellenic polytheism, western civilization reached its apex in the later centuries BC. During the renaissance, Hellenic polytheism experienced a near revival.
When enough sober men and women recover their faith in the Dii Consentes, the world will finally wake up from its milennia-long monotheistic nightmare.
Julian the Apostate did nothing wrong.
Muslims frequently lose wars against IsraHell because it and its fellow pagan in-his-image sodomites are joined at the pelvises. Fighting such powerful Evil is almost impossible, as the miracles of yore don’t happen anymore.
The best Muslims can do for now and in the foreseeable future is to fight this pagan godless Evil asymmetrically, and wear it down. The Taliban & perhaps the Hezbollah have shown us such a way.
And, we bide our time. Who knows what the Almighty One has in store for us true monotheists and our enemies, at least as far as this worldly existence is concerned.
There is no such doubt for the Hereafter though… Paradise for True Monotheists… a Blazing torment for the enemies of the One and only.
Remember, you accursed Islamophobes chose this fate.
Two errors and one anticipatory defense
Error #1
I wrote: “The Chinese invented the Horner method of solving higher numerical equations about 600 years before Horner was born.” I ought to have written: “The Chinese invented the Horner method of solving higher numerical equations about 750 years before Horner was born.”
Horner was born 9 June 1786. https://mathshistory.st-andrews.ac.uk/Biographies/Horner/ In “Shu Shu Jiu Zhang” (1247), Qin Jiushao rendered a array of Horner-type methods that solve polynomial equations. Qin Jiushao derived his method from the works of Jia Xian, an 11th Century Chinese mathematician. See Yoshio Mikami, “Development of Mathematics in China and Japan” (Leipzig 1913), https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.40.1036.676
Error # 2
In my first comment (to which this comment “replies”), the third sentence is: “I endured the chunky, much vapid discursiveness of Shafarevich’s work until I encountered ana assertion that pissed me off.” The term “ana” ought to be the term “an.”
Anticipatory defense
I wrote “Pythagorus” twice in my first comment. I am aware that a common spelling (perhaps the more common spelling) is “Pythagoras.” But the term (the name) is Greek (ancient Greek); and English spellings are transliterations. I like the Latinate transliteration I use. Like me, quite enough others, even schoolmarms, prefer or use “Pythagorus.” https://teachers.henrico.k12.va.us/short_pump/rettig_d/ABlockProjects/woodnewhart/Site/About_Pythagorus.html
Thanks for the story! Incredible. Also, how about Arthur Miller’s 1947 novel, Focus, in which a goy whose eyes go bad and has to wear thick glasses is mistaken for one of the poor, innocent Jews who had to sit out WW II making money in New York City. The gist of the story is that all Americans—like the ones still coming home in 1947 from the battlefields of Europe in coffins, having given their lives in the tragically mistaken belief they were saving the Jews—that all Americans were even worse Nazis under the skin than the Germans, including unborn white American babies, if you can believe the depths of Jewish hatred for their benefactors. Always, without fail across two thousand years. What sick, depraved people.
And let’s not forget that the Jews hold the Germans forever and collectively guilty for the grotesquely exaggerated Holocaust while it’s impermissible to say that the Jews as the leaders of communism are, on their own lights, forever and collectively guilty for the mass murders of tens of millions of Russians and Ukrainians—here we go again—, making Jews and not Germans far and away the worst butchers in human history.
There’s also the idea that any criticism of the Jews acting collectively is anti-Semitic and immediately ruled impermissible, yet it follows if that is the case that the Jews have never done and can never do anything wrong. I doubt this contradiction will last much longer as the means of holding Western Civilization hostage to Jewish predation.
After two hundred years of British hyper-exploitation. The West is a blood-sucking parasite, furiously attempting to keep the thieving rackets going.
Jews admit to using ridicule to shut down the KKK. Ridicule works and we see the jew Aaron on this thread still trying to use it with his homosexual little yellow faces.
I constantly ridicule whites and jews who try to claim jews are innocent. Ridicule works. No one wants to be seen as a moron and when people see someone ridiculed they back away so it does not happen to them. Anyone who tries to claim jews are not leading the anti white parade should be called a moron or a retard followed by hard truths about jews behavior. You will alienate the target but others reading what you wrote will be curious. All one has to do is plant the seed and people will find out all by themselves that jews are toxic for non jews. I had a women tell me I was wrong about jews so I offer her $1000 dollars if she could prove me wrong with some logical facts. She went on line for an hour and then came down and told me I was right. Usually jews will prove my point by ignoring everything written to continue trying to apply ridicule to cover their lack of an argument. At this point any white defending jews is a moron and other whites seeing it pointed out want to avoid like treatment.
Jews are desperate because their ridicule is no longer working. Fox News will allow you to name the jews as leading the anti white parade. It is also easy to prove jews are pushing the homosexuals as normal claim as well and the Fox crowd does not like it. Ridiculing jews and their protectors is the best way I have found to red pill a white person on the jews behavior.
I get way more thumbs up when I tell the truth about than I get down votes on Fox News comment sections. Jews always over step their boundaries and they always fall from the catbird seat. Kanye West has red pilled way more than half the blacks if you read the comments on twitter about his claims jews are leading non whites in an anti white parade. Facts don’t work on their own but facts coupled with ridicule work.
If you are jew wise and not on Fox News comment sections you are preaching to the choir. Fox readers are the target audience for truth about jews. All of them hate blacks so they are way more easily swayed about jews than your average normie.
Western Whites, prone as they are to individualism, prefer to rally around ideology instead of identity. In practice that means an immigrant from Taiwan with the right talking points and values, is accepted into polite White society. But, a White man, who may have had ancestors come over on the Mayflower even , would be kicked out of polite society as soon as he voiced a politically incorrect opinion. Like, say, about Jewish power.
I say:
This so-called “polite White society” is just a bunch of White mugs that are all kinds of smug because they have been clam-raking ill-gotten gains out of the asset bubbles created by the monetary policy extremism of the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank.
Once the globalized asset bubble implosions pick up steam, this so-called “polite White society” will be screaming like harpies and rabid dogs to bring back their various monetary policy-induced magic money fountains.
The Jews causing all the trouble are ruling class Jews. These ruling class Jews in European Christian nations such as the USA, England, Germany, France, Australia, Canada, Italy and all the rest are evil, demonic Jew nation-wreckers and they must be financially liquidated and forcibly exiled to concentration campgrounds in sub-Saharan Africa. It’s the only way to be sure.
The Biden Asset Bubble in stocks and bonds and real estate — commercial and residential — will implode with tremendous force and it will dislodge from power the evil and treasonous JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire.
Joe Biden — politician globalizer whore — has been backing every asset bubble ever created since 1971 by the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank, and Biden will preside over the mother and father of all asset bubble implosions when the Biden Asset Bubble breaks and the White Upper Middle Class Snot Brats sit in the suburbs and moan.
This is the third frigging asset bubble, starting in the 1990s, that the plutocrat- and privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank has inflated using monetary extremism — low or zero or negative interest rates, asset purchases, quantitative easing, dollar swaps, direct central bank purchases of sovereign and corporate debt, balance sheet ballooning, bailouts…etc. — and enough is enough, DAMMIT!
FINANCIALLY LIQUIDATE THE WHITE UPPER MIDDLE CLASS SNOT BRATS NOW
TEN PERCENT FEDERAL FUNDS RATE NOW
FIRE SALE THE FED’S ASSET PORTFOLIO NOW
WHIP INFLATION NOW BY POPPING THE ASSET BUBBLES
QUANTITATIVE TIGHTENING NOW
EVIL, DEMONIC GLOBALIZER JEWS MUST BE FINANCIALLY LIQUIDATED AND FORCIBLY EXILED FROM ALL EUROPEAN CHRISTIAN NATIONS
WHITE CORE CHRISTIAN AMERICA RISING
What comment do you think I need to back up? I think you’re confused and you sound too defensive. From your comments about Hitler, it sure doesn’t sound like you blame all equally.
You accuse me of relying on insult (which it was not) and then turn around and insult me. LOL.
Thank you, Rolo Slavskiy, and nice to see you again.
The Commentariat has yet again shown the seeming impossibility of we Euros working together for our own self survival. Strong minded Ego continues to feature, readiness to abuse. Hardly to wonder then that a talmudist has entered to offer his services to build white nationalism in the best tradition of Chutzpah.
Yes. But the worm is turning nonetheless.
I still hope, even after the slaughter of countless millions of our best people by Jews and their disgusting servants, that we will prevail.
Your article tells me this.
The debate is now out in the open.
What’s new?
Well, it seems the Democrat Blue haired shit Eaters have inserted a bug on Bitchute. It’s been going on for a coupla months, but now it locks and it cannot be unlocked.
Are you having the same problem?
Is there anybody out there?
Well, the Jews bought votes (Welfare) to maintain power. And, they used our Wehrmacht to fight ALL of their wars. So, the upshot is, wait for it, we owe $31T to Them. You didn’t think They were going to pay for all that shit, did you?
They own you and me. The best we can do is accept our fate. Land of the fee, home of the slave. Yowsa yowsa yowsa.
Zelensky has already said that Ukraine would be “the new Israel”.
Now, they’re weaponizing food.
Rainbow became homo.
Children’s books became tranny propaganda.
Videogames became feminist crap.
Superhero movies became SJW garbage.
TV commercials push ACOWW.
Now, food fighting is the weapon of saving the world.
The dark side of Ice Bucket Challenge. All these woke types are unoriginal and into MeToo mentality.
Ok. I watched my vid on Rumble.
Dollar Vigilante, Matt and Blonde- tons of fun.
BTW. Thanks for the help. Dick.
UK’s new Prime Minister
… just received Board of Deputies of British Jews stamp of approval.
https://www.bing.com/fd/ls/GLinkPing.aspx?IG=C2B8BE1C646849A1A0A9A47989E6194C&&ID=SERP,5149.1&SUIH=OTIHr8Z5fCyhwfWcNpRXZQ&redir=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cucmV1dGVycy5jb20vd29ybGQvdWsvdmlldy1yaXNoaS1zdW5hay1zZXQtYmVjb21lLW5ldy11ay1wbS1wb3VuZC13b2JibGVzLTIwMjItMTAtMjQv
Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus
In the scriptures Jesus received the most opposition from the most religious people of his day. At it’s core Jesus’ gospel and the good news of the Cross is in pure opposition to self-righteousness/self-justification. Religion is man centered, Jesus is God-centered.
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John 15:18-25 New International Version The World Hates the Disciples
18 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2015%3A18-25&version=NIV&interface=amp
Whether Jews were gassed or not, undisputable is that the inmates of the concentration camps were treated horribly badly. Long hours standing in roll calls, insufficient food and clothing, unhygienic sanitation, and overwork took their toll on many of them. And those were the “lucky” ones premitted to work.
See video, especially after 6.09:
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In such “beds” (wooden bunks with no matresses, no pillows, no sheets and no blankets) they were forced to sleep:
These were their “toilets”: https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/57b9b98a29687f1ef5c622df/1478176948033-7WVMN61UU55TTD2KJ7KD/toilets+in+auschwitz
You can’t back up your ignorant comment, can you?
What part of that did you not understand to ask What comment do you think I need to back up?
My IQ is probably 1.5 times yours, so you calling me ignorant is insulting because you have no basis for your pejorative.
I think you’re confused and you sound too defensive. From your comments about Hitler, it sure doesn’t sound like you blame all equally.
I’m not responsible for your imaginings. If perchance you have a thought about my writings and disagree, then frame an appropriate question about a specific item and be civil. Starting off with a personal affront isn’t likely to get you very far, but then you have no real point, just want to vent.
Why not check my commenting history if you want a deeper understanding of my thoughts.
I, personally, am not a topic of conversation, the issues brought up in articles on this site are what’s to be commented on. Stay on topic.
Now, do you have some constructive dialog you wish to use to start off a conversation?
The Tory Party in England is anti-White and anti-English.
The True Core English nation must destroy the Jew-controlled Tory Party starting now and the True Core English political party must become the opposition party to Labour in England.
The JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire and the JEW/ENGLISH Ruling Class of England are using mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration and state-sponsored anti-White totalitarian multiculturalism to attack and destroy the historic English nation and the historic American nation.
The ruling classes of England and the American Empire are using mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration as demographic weapons to attack and destroy the true ancestral cores of England and the USA.
Sam Huntington wrote a book called “Who Are We?: The Challenges to America’s National Identity”
Sam Huntington said the United States was a British Protestant settler nation.
Sam Huntington in Who Are We?:
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/who-are-we/
Tweet from 2014:
“…Who knows what the Almighty One has in store for us true monotheists and our enemies, at least as far as this worldly existence is concerned…”
So why can “almighty” Allah not make his “true monotheist” believers win their battles against the “false believers”? Or is Allah perhaps not “almighty” after all, or even the whole idea of his existence an illusion? Belief in a sexual afterlife in heaven is in any case a sign of spiritual primitivity of you “true believers”.
Your reply is not relevant to my comment. My comment refuted Shafarevich’s assertion that
[My emphases, Loup-Bouc.]
The matter is not whether current India is, or has fallen to, the status of an inferior state that lacks modernity. And the matter is not whether the current modern world is a Western or Romano-Germanic creation.
The matter is that mathematics was NOT a creation of Western Europe or a Romano-Germanic creation. Mathematics is the brain-child of China and India (and, to a lesser degree, ancient Persia, then, later, ancient Greece, which was settled by Asians eventually called “Greeks”).
But even respecting the issue you did try to address, your argument is invalid. Your “evidence” is temporally immaterial and partly plain false.
Also, you posted a photo that is belied by the India of the 21st century (belied even by about the last 15-20 years of the 20th century). Your photo “evidence” is, at best, sophistic. It depicts a scene of the period of WWII and the first 30-35 years following WWII.
You state a falsehood and sophistry with this:
Your term “progress” is sophistic. It assumes falsely, or at best, very debatably, that “progress” is defined by the state of Western European culture, science, economics, politics, and political structure
I dislike, even contemn, the political structure of current-day China. But China’s Belt and Road initiative is a laudable model of foreign policy, which the U.S. and Western Europe ought to follow, if the U.S. and Western Europe wish to survive.
You assert a risibly false proposition where you assert, by necessarily implication, that China’s science, math, and technology — and related education — are inferior to those of the West.
In medicine and medical education, India has surpassed the U.S. (I lack evidence sufficient to comment on China’s medical achievements or its medical education. I regret that China has not continued to depend much on Traditional Chinese Medicine, which, though far from perfect, is demonstrably superior to U.S. allopathy of the past circa 40 years.
Also, you have not refuted the posts of @Biff, https://www.unz.com/article/the-elusive-jewish-solution/#comment-5620518 , and @Kurt Knispel, https://www.unz.com/article/the-elusive-jewish-solution/#comment-5620514 .
Perhaps prudence indicates my “confessing” that I am not of Chinese, Indian, Black, or any other non-White-European ethnicity. My ethnicity is Estonian and Magyar. My mother, pure Magyar, immigrated from Hungary to the U.S. My father’s father and mother immigrated from Estonia to the U.S.
I am a Francophile. My “god” is Johann Sebastian Bach. See (or listen to), e.g., this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw9eEIfohj4
Video Link. In the math/logic world, I admire, most, Kurt Friedrich Gödel.
I find awesome this visual/architectural emblem of the best quality of Western European culture:
. Western Europe has fallen because it has abandoned the ethos reflected in that breathtaking beauty, and the imagination, science, and labor that created it.
“…There is no reason the peoples of the west cannot return to the native faith of their ancestors…”
Not true. Whether you like it or not, once you have gone through the stage of monotheism, you cannot return to the lower stage of polytheism, just as it is not possible for a grownup to believe again in Santa Claus.
Besides, the various European peoples had different ancestors with different faiths, some of which such as the faiths of the Celts and the Slavs we know little about.
During the Renaissance polytheism did not experience a “near revival”, the spirit of classical art and philosophy yes, but not its religion.
The boomerang must – and will! – hit
the Jew, no matter where he hides!
Video Link
https://odysee.com/@EternalTruth14:3/IMG_107683258:3
Unfortunately, these poor souls have not yet learned about
German locking technology, their “shields” look pretty crappy.
https://glawindows.com/european-entry-door/
What exactly is elusive about the solution ? 109 countries have already found the solution which is “pass a decree and kick them out”. They can leave voluntarily or be escorted to the airport or wharf and deported.
Trying to push them out of the West and into their own country is not going to be successful following the “legal system”. They need to be unilaterally evicted. Other countries over the past several thousand years have known this and done this.
Lets not fool ourselves in this day and age of MSM hogwash about the irrational hate of the Tribe. When Adolph shoved them out neither the UK, Canada or the US (among many other countries ) wanted them. At that time, the Goy knew that when you open your door to the least of evils, greater ones are waiting to enter.
All the conditions that existed in the 30’s Germany have manifested once again in the West, Pornography, bestiality, pedophilia, homosexuality and every other imaginable perversion and sleaze are back in force as are economic after economic wrecks with the Tribe as the driver. Thinking Joos know this and know the backlash will come.
In Europe the Moslems are forcibly pushing these folks out. Here in the US we see the beginnings of the same thing as Moslem parents dont want their kids exposed to men buggering other men and such filth in the school curriculum.
The problem with the Tribe is that they construct their own trap and step into it. The last time around they had no country of their own. Now they do, but said country is surrounded by 341M people who hate them. They wont leave voluntarily and go there because like true leeches they must have a prosperous host to suck on.
There is nothing in their land ! They do not manufacture anything. Without the billions in US aid and the protection of Uncle Sam, that country will be just another shit hole. Time will tell but they are again headed for disaster , another fiasco created with their own hands.
But !!! I digress. The solution which is known to all is Eviction by Decree ! Unfortunately, there are some situations which cannot be solved within the confines of the Law. The Tribe know this and apply illegal remedies when it suits them. 109 other countries have done the same. You mean we have forgotten the “solution” ?
It is, indeed.
“…The matter is that mathematics was NOT a creation of Western Europe or a Romano-Germanic creation. Mathematics is the brain-child of China and India (and, to a lesser degree, ancient Persia, then, later, ancient Greece, which was settled by Asians eventually called “Greeks”)…”
I know too little about the history of mathematics to be able to respond to that. All I know is that Chinese had no influence on European mathematics and Indian (via the Arabs) added the decimal system and the invention of zero. Ancient Greek mathematics developed independently from Asia as far as I know.
To call the Indo-European ancestors of the Greeks “Asians” is deceptive. The consensus among scolars is that the original homeland of the Indo-Europeans laid north of the Black Sea, mainly in present day Ukraine and that is within Europe.
Not a fan of Dreher but I must admit this made me LOL.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-breastaurant-at-the-end-of-america/
This has now become a political statement. Funded and legally protected by the Jewish System seeking to gain monopoly over energy sector by playing up ‘green’ energy when the whole thing is a bait-and-switch.
https://youtu.be/bbY8M9Jg2as
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Rolo has a substack, The Slavland Chronicles, and also does a podcast, The Worst of all Worlds, which you can find on his substack.
His main focus is the war in Ukraine but he has some good writings on metaphysics sprinkled in there too.
He’s got quality content, check him out.
But who are “our group”? My DNA credentials would allow me to be welcomed with open arms into any modern White Nationalist group, but nearly half my background is Irish and Catholic- a grouping which was relegated to the bottom rung of my Australian society until a few decades ago, by the Protestant Anglos who ran the place.
Later it was immigrant Greeks and other southern Europeans relegated to the bottom, derisively called “wogs”.
But now we are all “white”.
Definitions and groupings change over time!
Your assuming the creators of math were Chinese and Indians. There were whites in those countries so maybe it was aryans afterall
False.
False insofar as it does not account that Indian math influenced much more of Western math. Example: Algebra was an Indian invention, and through Persia, then Greece, that Indian math invention made near-all of European math possible.
False.
No “consensus” holds that the Greeks originated “north of the Black Sea, mainly in present day Ukraine.” No “consensus” holds that “the original homeland of the Indo-Europeans laid north of the Black Sea, mainly in present day Ukraine.”
Again, you put assertions that are irrelevant and assertions that are false.
The matter is not the origin of Indo-Europeans. The matter is the origin of the ancient Greeks. The Greeks originated in Anatolia, which is part of Asia, and earlier, from the Eurasian steppe (far eastern Europe and central/north-central Asia) and Siberia, which is much of Asia, and from Armenia, other parts of the eastern Caucasus, and nearby Persia, which are parts of Asia.
In the quote the follows immediately, the term “Mycenaeans” refers to bronze age, “Homeric” Greeks (circa 1600 to 1100 BCE), the Greeks present before the Greek “Dark Age” (circa 950 and 750 BCE).
Quoted from this source: https://www.science.org/content/article/greeks-really-do-have-near-mythical-origins-ancient-dna-reveals [Emphasis (Anatolia) and all nterpolations (“Asia” & “the Asian part) mine, Loup-Bouc.]
Though some far eastern European blood may have been mixed with the blood of the peoples that settled Greece, that far eastern European blood reached Greece (with the Greeks) only after it mixed with the blood of Asians of the Asian part of the Eurasian steppes and the blood of peoples of Anatolia (part of Asia), Armenia (part of Asia), and far northwest Persia (now Iran, part of Asia).
Still, though Indo-European peoples’ origin was not an issue, I cannot resist debunking your assertions.
The “original” Indo-Europeans were a northwest India (Indus Valley) people. Those people were a mix of Indus Valley pre-Indo-European people and “Aryan” invaders arriving from Eastern Persia and other parts of central Asia. The invaders conquered the people of the Indus Valley and integrated and interbred with them. Thus originated the Indo-Europeans.
Those Indo-Europeans, their culture, their language spread to are affected markedly the cultures and languages of the peoples of southern Siberia, central Asia, western Asia, the Arabian Peninsula, the Eurasian steppes, ancient Greece, the Minoan culture of Crete, and all of Europe west of the Eurasian steppes.
One source states the following:
Quoted from this source: https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/how-genetics-is-settling-the-aryan-migration-debate/article19090301.ece . [Except the word “WAS” (upper-cased by the author, Tony Joseph), all emphasis is mine (including upper case “CENTRAL ASIA”). Loup-Bouc.]
The above-quoted article observes that gene-research shows pertinent Indian DNA deriving also from ancient peoples who dwelt in territories that are now parts of Austro-Asia, East Asia, Tibet/Nepal, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and (Dravidian) South India. Those peoples, too, interbred with the Indus Valley Indians, but very little and likely near-only before the Aryan invasion of the Indus Valley, and then long after the decay of the Indus Valley Indo-European civilization.
Well said. Focusing on our family is key.
China had no “Whites” in the 12th and 11th centuries CE and before, an any “White” travelers were not part of Chines culture, but itinerants, often forced out. And all ancient and medieval Chinese math was invented by Chinese — Han Chinese (those “slant-eyed,” “yellow-skinned” folks).
In 700 BCE, India had no “Whites.” The Aryan invasion had occurred about 4000 years earlier. The Aryans were not Europeans, but central Asians, and though very likely light-skinned, not “White.”
Your stupid bigotry (a.k.a. White supremacy) slip is showing.
Jews have brainwashed whites. They have done immense harm to all of the west. Indeed to all the peoples of the countries they occupy.
Thrice. Germany bombed Serbia in 1999. But when big powers clash little countries get gobbled up. We have commenters here urging Russia to take the Baltic states and a few other East European countries even though they have not attacked Russia.
Emendation:
NOT “their language spread to are affected,” BUT “their language spread to or affected” [“or,” not “are”].
Throughout History, Jews have been horsewhipped out of every Country they have lived in. Some Countries Jews have been expelled multiple times. Jews have ZERO loyalty to the Countries in which they live. Jews have never had any loyalty to a Country–except Israel. Many of the US Neo Cons are Jewish. Jews have a longstanding hatred of Russia. And these Neo Cons will attack Russia to the last Ukrainian AND every member of the US War Machine.
Some thought, have never seen any jews in person who wear the amish type gear, which though on one hand it’s not ok one general label of people labeled jews in handed whatever they want, as some blanket label, that said there really isn’t one group of jews.
Obviously there are those who do schemes and don’t appear as or label themselves jews such as in the photo, or claim to be christian or catholic or no label, whatever job they do, point being differences, such as the ones in the garb, for instance, while people were sitting on their butts as dictators were telling us ‘lockdown’ and ‘masks’ and other incursions on us, some of the type jews who look as in the photos were defying the dictators, going to weddings and funerals and doing other things, and I don’t think because they thought they were special but just because they weren’t going to take that crap. Also remember seeing a photo of some people in israel protesting also, not dressed in garb but more regular looking.
Point being, different groups of jews, and some though may have faults, we could look at as example on how to assert ourselves, because most people seem to think sitting on their butt is the way to make the future. Wrong about that.
You are showing that you are an open minded Jew which is admirable, however, your openness is contradicted by your use of inflammatory and divisive phrases like Semite or white people.
Are you a real Jew? or some pretender to get into debate?
Are you a Ashkenazi Jew? if so than you are not Semite. Semite is the language and those who spoke the language and their descendants are Semites including Palestinians, Jordanians, Syrians … Jacob’s descendants.
Do you believe and perform your daily morning prayer thanking God Who did not make you a, Christian, a woman, and a slave.
Do you believe Jephthah story in Torah, Old Testaments, and Hebrew Bible where he incinerated his daughter to fulfill his vow to Yahweh
Judges 11:30-31
let us see if you answer in yes or no form. Thank you.
Our rules based order
Controls all the news
Especially with anything
Concerning the Jews
The exploitees propagated/prospered:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population#Population_growth_by_region
Your Out-of-India theory of the origin of the Indo-Europeans is false and a typical “politically correct” fabrication to denigrate Europeans. Of course ultimately all peoples originally came from somewhere else, but that has to be seen in the proper perspective.
See: The Genetic Origin of the Proto-Indo-Europeans at:
https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2022/06/22/the-genetic-origin-of-the-proto-indo-europeans-a-brief-summary-to-debunk-some-disinformation/, especially onder nr.10.
See map of Proto-Indo-European migrations:
When we say “the Greeks came from north of the Black Sea”, we mean those Indo-Europeans who brought the Greek language into Greece. Greece was already populated by Mediterranean Whites who originally came from Anatolia and those Greek Indo-Europeans mixed with them. If that moves you to call Greeks “Asians” then that creates a false impression. The term “Asian” has no specific racial meaning and used in this way has a political motive.
Originally even the Cro-Magnon hunter-gatherers who populated Europe some 40,000 years ago came also via Turkey, but to call Europeans therefore “Asians” again has a political motive.
…I have understood Plato (and to a lesser extent, Aristotle) to be proto-Chritstians, so I am skeptical of the claim that Christian civilization is just a bad rip off of Jewish ideas….
Agreeable. As Rome sustained Greek culture, and as the Church sustained the bureaus and administration of Rome, Augustine adapted Plato and Aquinas adapted Aristotle. That’s the quickie.
I wrote thrice 😉 Let’s say that frustration speaks through some commenters. Wars of choice are a Western thing, not a Russian thing. Putin doesn’t strike me as a man who’d choose war over peace, regardless of how imperfect the peace, so I definitely don’t expect Russia to go beyond Ukraine by choice. Russia has gone to war in Ukraine because she had no other choice.
Thanks.
Maybe a little time away from the massive and entirely inappropriate Ego’s and sayanim in TUR would be a refreshment.
Hi Cohen, thanks for responding –
I am Ashkenazi, but not practicing or believing.
As for the word Semite, I simply use words in their accepted usage. Many words end up getting used in ways that are foreign to their original literal meaning.
The term antisemite was invented by a non-Jewish German in the 19th century, who wished to sound more “scientific” when discussing the issue – I think Jew-hatred would have been more earthy, salty, and true, and less sanitized and euphemistic.
Like Orwell, I think political euphemisms make crimes easier to commit.
As for Jews, I believe DNA research shows them to have Levantine heritage on the father’s side, so the term Semite is not wholly invalid.
My general approach to the Old Testament is that it is to be read allegorically and spiritually – not literally.
There is a substrate of Near East myths that were common to the region, and a mishmash of genuine history, but for the most part this stuff is spiritual allegory and not meant to be literal.
The Near East myths themselves were often, like early myths everywhere, rather crude and often unflattering to the Gods, but they contained seeds of divine gold in them that had to be spun out by later generations through spiritual and allegorical reading
Just as the crude and vulgar Greek myths eventually culminated in the beautiful and lofty spirituality of the Neo-Platonists, the crude Near Eastern myths eventually culminated in the lofty spirituality of the Prophets and Jesus – where fortuitously, the two streams met and became Christianity.
Second Temple Jewish Rabbis around the time of Jesus had already developed a rich hermeneutical tradition of non-literal spiritual reading of the OT, which passed over into Christianity.
When Paul said in regards to literal reading of scripture “the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life”, and when many Church Fathers echoed this sentiment and expanded upon it, they were continuing this Jewish tradition, and warning against literal readings.
It is only in the modern world, with our radical loss of dimension, depth, and spiritual vision, the “flattening out” of our mental life to the level of “fact” and literalism, and our tradition of arid scientism, that anyone thought of taking the OT literally.
This applies to all holy scriptures of every religion – they must be read “spiritually”, and not literally. This is a lost art today, sadly.
As for myself, while I recognize great beauty and profundity in Judaism, I am more attracted to other spiritual traditions, but I am also a syncretist who seeks to learn from all the traditions.
Did I answer your questions?
Franklyn…
From time to time we hear all this nonsense about the Chinese inventing this and that. We can now ponder the thought that they also invented Mathematics.. If you listen to the Chinese backdoor wipes you would get the impression that they discovered everything. Life as we know it, from the condoms we roll over our private telescopes to the Hubble telescope was invented by ??? The Chinese !!
Let us assume this is a fact. However inventing anything means nothing until it can be put to use. Hence, Fung Ah Fat, brewing his tea in hovel in rural Guandong Province in the year 4000BC would have noticed steam rising from his miserable pot. We could assert that steam power was observed (and invented ??) by Mr Fat. That however meant shit until that power could be harnessed to move objects. The steam engine was old by the time it was first brought to China. We can think of many more examples.
So one need not know the origin of Math. Maybe Fung Ah Fat also figured out that one fortune cookie plus two fortune cookies equals three fortune cookies. Maybe after his cup of steam tea while urinating against the side of his hut he even designed the first oil refinery. His discovery of course would be useless until the combustion engine was created.
The fact is, with all their “discoveries” China was a toilet bowl until western industry decided to take advantage of their pool of slave labour in the 1980’s. In other words for 4000 years they never managed to rise above the level of a Congolese outdoor latrine.
The sad fact is that the Chinese are no discoverers or inventors. They are copiers and all this drivel about their inventiveness is the equivalent of spraying a clear coat on a turd and calling it a nugget.
These people saw monkeys eating termites with sticks and copied that. The world has long moved on to the knives and forks but these people still dine like Chimps with their chopsticks. Fortune cookies were created by the Japanese BUTT they are somehow deemed Chinese. The noodle was taken from Italy to China by Marco Polo. What exactly are these people renowned for ?? Peking Duck and Sweet and Sour Pork ??
We will build a better White Nationalism when a sufficient number of whites come to the realization that a “jew-friendly” world is equivalent to a “goy-deadly” world.
So, save your pity for your own people.
Thanks,
It looks like Aristotle’s Ethics was integrated into Catholic teachings through Aquinas. This is probably why so many Catholics today are so interested in virtue ethics.
A couple of questions:
1. Did Maimonides serve the same role for the Jewish community?
2. Why should anyone care what Aquinas or Maimonides thought about Aristotle? Why not just read Aristotle’s Ethics directly?
Somehow a Jewish or Catholic interpretation of Aristotle seems less appealing than going straight to the source.
Again, their greatest fraud, highly successful fraud, Democracy! Without that we would be free! With an autocrat we would be free! Free of all those disgusting perversions successfully destroying society.
And without democracy, that terrible fraud, Assange would be free! A dictator would free him in a flash.
I cannot spare time to proofread this comment. I type badly. I commit typing/editing errors — especially when I compose a comment with the rather fine-print-font characters and the little text-box provided for commenting at Unz Review, because my eyesight is not strong. I apologize now for any typing or editing errors may commit.
Irrelevancy is not your only gift. You enjoy also the gift of not being able to READ. Reading deficiency can be, inter alia, these flaws:
• (a) Simple illiteracy or functional illiteracy
• (b) Attention deficit, which can be either quick exhaustion of attention or lack of capacity of attending details with unflagging white critical discernment
• (c) The reader’s hallucinating into a text what the reader wants to see
Often, flaws (b) and (c) co-operate — which is the problem in your case.
You cite (link) an article that is not a scientific study or a scholarly report of scientific findings. That fact appears from the article’s Introduction:
The Introduction’s language shows that the article is a White European supremacy engendered political diatribe, not a scientific paper or report of scientific findings.
I need to return to finishing a book I am writing concerning the Biden FBI’s and Justice Department’s attempt of indicting Trump for committing crimes he did not commit. So, because I cannot afford to spend much more time on debunking your toxic dross, I shall assume that some readers will appreciate that you cited an article language is a political diatribe. I shall not debate the matter with you. YOUR comments are White European supremacy political diatribes. Hence, you cannot perceive that cite an article that is a White European supremacy political diatribe.
Your source-article’s “Introduction” (quoted above) shows that your source-article’s author is a White supremacist political hack. The author does not identify himself (a fact that proves the author untrustworthy). Rather the author says this:
[Quoted from the “About” page of the article’s writer’s website, https://thuletide.wordpress.com/about-2/
Your source- article’s “Introduction” (quoted above) states, inter alia, this: “David Reich of Harvard University has implied that they came from somewhere in West Asia, south of the Caucasus.” The writer’s source is an abstract of a lecture that David Reich gave at the Israel Institute for Advanced Studies. The lecture is published here: https://web.archive.org/web/20220619094849/https://iias.huji.ac.il/event/david-reich-lecture
The lecture-abstract’s text is too long to stuff into this comment. But my point will be made merely by my quoting the abstract’s final paragraph — after I supply two quasi-definitions present in the abstract’s first paragraph.
The quasi-definitions:
I quoted that language to provide, here, a sense of the content of David Reich’s terms “Southern Arc” and “Yamnaya steppe pastoralists.”
Now the abstract’s last paragraph:
So, Reich did not “imply ” ANYTHING. Surely, Reich did not imply that “Proto-Indo-Europeans “came from somewhere in West Asia, south of the Caucasus.”
Reich’s language indicates only that Souther arc steppe migration is proven partly by Yamnaya patrilineal descendant admixture occurred and that such fact consists with these indications:
(a) that gene flows coming to Anatolia from the west Asia of the Caucasus (around ancient Armenia and the northwest tip of what is now Iran)
(b) that “the Indo-Anatolian language family originated in the eastern wing of the Southern Arc”
(c) that “the steppe served only as a secondary staging area of Indo-European language dispersal.”
Those indications resolve into merely one piece of evidence that may help prove the geographic origin(s) and the genetic structure(s) of the people who invaded and conquered the indigenous people of the Indus Valley circa 4000 BCE — whose Indus Valley invasion and conquest produced the Indo-European culture of northwest India.
The term “Proto Indo-Europeans” is not part of the language of the philological/genetic/anthropological science that has examined the question of the origins(s) of Indo-Europeans or the Indo-European languages. The term “proto Indo-Europeans” is the language of the refusing-to-identify-himself author of the political diatribe you cited.
Much more important are the matters (a) that your source-article presents zero genetic evidence of ANYTHING and (b) that your source cites sources that do present genetic evidence and that DISPROVE your source’s White supremacist conclusion and prove that the original Indo-Europeans were west Asians who invaded northwest India (the Indus Valley) and inbred with the indigenous Indus Valley people.
In my comment to which your comment replies — my comment at https://www.unz.com/article/the-elusive-jewish-solution/#comment-5621751 — cited and quoted an article that presents a sound synopsis of the most current state of research of the genetics of the Indo-Europeans of the the Indus Valley (northwest India). That article presents an abundance of DNA evidence and pertinent analysis. That article supports the conclusion that the Indus Valley invaders, the “Aryans,” came from western Asia — Anatolia, Armenia (meaning mid-and-south Caucasus), and the far northwest of what is now Iran.
If actually you could READ your source-article’s cited sources, you would see that your source-article’s sources do not support, but contradict, your source-article’s assertion that Indo-Europeans originated in Europe, rather than west Asia.
EXAMPLE: If one opens your source-article’s second source — this source https://www.academia.edu/39985565 — one finds that your source-article’s source does not support your source-article’s thesis. One finds also that on the web-page bearing your source-article’s source, numerous other articles are abstracted and linked and that those other articles, too, do not support your source-article’s thesis, but some contradict your source-article’s thesis.
Still more important: The core Indo-European matters are:
• (a) The term “Indo-European” denotes, properly, the genetic strain(s) of people who populated the Indus Valley after the “Aryans” invaded and interbred with the Indus Valley’s indigenous people.
• (b) The “Aryan” invaders were rather primitive. The two peoples’ cultures (Aryan and Indigenous Indus Valley) merged. The “Aryan” invaders became literate and intellectually sophisticated because of the Aryan invaders’ associating closely with the Indus Valley people whom the “Aryans” invaded.
• (c) The Indus Valley invaders’ — the Aryans’ — language mixed with the language of the indigenous Indus Valley people and produced a classic Sanscrit. The new culture produced many volumes of Sanscrit texts of Hindu literature (e.g., Mahabharata and Rāmāya) and of medical science (Ayurvedic medicine) and mathematics.
• (d) The new — Aryan-indigenous mixed — Indus Valley culture traded and otherwise interacted with people of the regions now called Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Anatolia, and the Caucasus. The Mycenaean Greeks’ progenitors were denizens of Anatolia and the Caucasus, whence the Mycenaean Greeks migrated to what is now Greece.
• (e) The Indus Valley Indo-European culture and language influenced the cultures and languages of the peoples of the regions now called Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Anatolia, and the Caucasus — including the progenitors of the Mycenaean Greeks. In the Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Anatolia, and the Caucasus, the peoples’ languages and cultures — including the Mycenaean Greek progenitors’ language and culture — absorbed elements of the language of the Indo-European Indus Valley.
In the Greeks’ case, one of many Christianity-relevant example is a curious linguistic one.
In Hinduism, one saliently important creature is “Krishna” (a transliteration of the Sanscrit, a transliteration found in many Indo-European tongues of Europe). Krishna is the eighth avatar (or 8th incarnation) of the god Vishnu. Vishnu is the supreme being who creates, protects, and transforms the universe. Vishnu is “the Preserver” entity of triple deity of supreme divinity that includes Brahma and Shiva. The whole Supreme Divinity is Brahma (The Creator), Vishnu (The Preserver), and Shiva (The Destroyer and source of Recreation).
In the Time of Jesus of Nazareth, the Greek language included the term Christos (Χριστός), which translates as “Christ.” See here https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=kT&sl=en&tl=el&text=Christ&op=translate
AND here https://www.deepl.com/en/translator#el/en/Χριστός
Now consider the Christian “trinity” — father, son, holy ghost and the Christian assertion that Jesus was “the Christ.”
And consider that Kishna’s legend includes matters very similar to the asserted matters of the Jesus “Christ.” legend and matters of Greek mythology. Two examples:
(1)
■ In the legendary Kurukshetra, one important figure was one Gandhari, whose 100 sons were killed in battles. Gandhari believed that Krishna was responsible for the continuation of the war and that therefore Krishna was responsible for the deaths of 100 of Gandhari’s sons. Enraged at Krishna, Gandhari declared:
Soon after, in a festival, a hunter, one Jara, mistook Krishna for a deer, and Jara shot an arrow into Krishna’s foot. The wound proved fatal.
■ Compare the Myth of the death of Achilles caused by an arrow shot into Achilles’s heel, the only vulnerable part of Achilles’s anatomy.
■ When Achilles was an infant, to prevent his death, his mother Thetis dipped him into the River Styx, which rendered invulnerability. But Thetis held Achilles by one of his heels, which was not touched by the river’s water. So, if the heel was woulded, he was vulnerable. During the Trojan war, Achilles committed hubris by dragging Hector’s body around a part of the battlefield. Hector’s brother, Paris, sought revenge. Appolo guided Paris’s poisoned arrow so that it would pierce Achilles’s heel. Achilles was killed.
(2)
Back to Jara’s shooting Krishna’s foot, fatally. When Krishna was dying, he forgave Jara. Then, after his death, Krishna returned directly up to his “transcendent abode” — whence he had become Vishnu’s 8th avatar. Hindu scriptures say that Krishna “gave up his body” at hisdeath-place, theplace wher he was shot and where he forgave Jara.
Your whole new reply-comment is irrelevant to my first comment and the rest of my comments. My first comment is here: https://www.unz.com/article/the-elusive-jewish-solution/#comment-5620364 .
Our “debate” began with your comment posted here: https://www.unz.com/article/the-elusive-jewish-solution/#comment-5620473 . There you argued that China’s and India’s medieval and ancient mathematics were insignificant because (you asserted) “the modern world is undeniably the creation of West European peoples, not of Indians or Chinese.”
In my comment replying to that one your comments, I observed:
See my comment at https://www.unz.com/article/the-elusive-jewish-solution/#comment-5621491
Then you replied that
See your comment posted here: https://www.unz.com/article/the-elusive-jewish-solution/#comment-5621551
Again, your reply was irrelevant to my first comment. And it was quite wrong — as I showed in my reply-comment, posted here https://www.unz.com/article/the-elusive-jewish-solution/#comment-5621751 . Even does your same comment — https://www.unz.com/article/the-elusive-jewish-solution/#comment-5621751 — mix distinct issues, illogically and contrary to empirical fact: Whether the Chinese or Indians influenced European mathematics is irrelevant to both
● (a) whether the Indus Valley’s “Indo-European” invaders originated in Europe, not Asia,
and
● (b) whether the ancient Greeks originated in Europe rather than Asia.
I shall not extend this “debate” further. I shall end our “debate” with the following observations:
In your comment to which this comment replies, you wrote:
Previously, have proved those assertions wrong. Here my further criticism is just this: Your source-article — here https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2022/06/22/the-genetic-origin-of-the-proto-indo-europeans-a-brief-summary-to-debunk-some-disinformation/ — says absolutely NOTHING concerning Greeks, or Mycenaeans (the first ancient Greeks).
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I shall not reply to you again.
Thank you, these examples are absolutely fascinating. The thing about Sanskrit and formal grammars is another amazing thing. Another fun example is the Chinese Remainder Theorem – pretty nifty stuff for ~300 AD.
Shafarevich is being a bit of a chauvinist. I guess he would argue the real tradition begins in Ancient Greece with axiomatic reasoning (Aristotle’s rules of inference, Euclid’s axioms) and was “properly” picked up by Western Europeans. Maybe this is a good argument. I don’t know.
It’s boring when Indians and Chinese do the we wuz kangs thing but seriously, a lot of the examples given are absolute gems, like pieces of advanced technology.
Important emendation:
Shortly after I posted my last comment that replies to your last comment that replies to me, I suffered a sense that I may have put a wrong internet link at a certain point. [My preceding sentence’s language “your last comment that replies to me” denotes this comment: https://www.unz.com/article/the-elusive-jewish-solution/#comment-5622008 ]
I checked and found that, as I feared, I had put the wrong link.
The problem occurs in the paragraph that begins thus: “Again, your reply was irrelevant to my first comment. And it was quite wrong”
The problem is here:
The correct link is this: https://www.unz.com/article/the-elusive-jewish-solution/#comment-5621551
Sorry.
A couple of questions:
1. Did Maimonides serve the same role for the Jewish community?
2. Why should anyone care what Aquinas or Maimonides thought about Aristotle? Why not just read Aristotle’s Ethics directly?
First, a point that is pertinent to both questions. When Aristotle departed from Athens, no longer under protection of his fellow Macedonian Alexander, who’d died, his writings were lost to western Greek culture, though not in the eastern areas of Alexander’s conquests, where they continued in Arabic commentaries by the philosophers of the Islamic world – in which Maimonides, escaping Spain, found intellectual fellowship, without forsaking the sacred Torah.
But Aristotle’s writings returned to Europe with the Islamic conquest of Spain, where translations from Arabic into Latin became available eventually to Aquinas, who read Maimonides as well, and also others among the Islamic philosophers.
I note this in answer to why they didn’t read Aristotle’s Ethics directly, nor other books of his, until after the passing of centuries, in translations from translations. Finally, some but not all of his early documents were found in somebody’s storage, a basement as one hears it.
Platonic metaphysics, with its separate realm of eternal truth, in contrast to the lower world of shifting imperfections, found ready accommodation in theology, but Aristotle was a major threat, because his metaphysics is, instead, of one world, not two. As depicted in the fresco by Raphael, to be real is to be a particular thing, right here where he can reach out to put his hand on it, while beside him Plato is pointing upward and elsewhere.
And yet Aristotle could not be dismissed, upon his surprising and disturbing return to western attention, because in his metaphysics and logic he laid down the software for thinking. You don’t learn syllogistic reasoning from the Bible. Aquinas, like Maimonides, and the Islamic philosophers, became a master Aristotelian, though retaining a higher and eternal world. The grand program was to write the operating manual for a civilization.
And yes, Maimonides, as a result, did foster in Judaism what might be called a philosophical leavening, which he claimed had been inherent from the beginning. The practice of learning is virtuous, and all people, Jew or gentile, can and should reach the status of prophet, a truth teller.
2) Christianity is a Jewish invention to demoralize the gentiles. Besides, the Spanish tried to convert the Jews and they got subversive marranos instead. The marranos destroyed the Spanish empire from inside, fomenting revolutions in the Spanish Americas.
Oh boy, you really are far behind on the phases of tikkun olam. Phase 1 was christianity, phase 2 was the reform, phase 3 was the enlightenment (which gave us liberalism, democracy and communism), phase 4 was communism and phase 5 is the current ZWO.
LOL. Fair point. I should have qualified my statement by adding the words “in the last one hundred years.”
Thanks for expanding on my poorly articulated point.
There is no question about the spelling of Pythagoras, the original being: Πυθαγόρας. A few idiots misspell his name and you apparently copied one of them. The most striking example is a video where even the word “theorem” is misspelled:
Pythagorus’ Theorum – Math Lessons – sides
So this reflects on you, too.
Thanks for this nice collection of Greek thinkers/mathematicians. Apparently, theirs was an outstanding/unparalleled contribution to the field. However, Chinese, Indian and Arab contributions are undeniable, too. Many of the modern discoveries/inventions can also be traced to multiple people. E.g. non-Euclidean geometry can be associated with three people: Gauss (a German genius), Bolyai (Hungarian) and Lobachevsky, a Russian.
https://www.cantorsparadise.com/gauss-bolyai-lobachevsky-the-dawn-of-non-euclidean-geometry-38491218bc89
Should we pick only one, denying the contributions of the other two? Of course not.
However, there is one race completely missing from this discussion. Hint: the Neanderthal connection. Amazingly, this year’s science Nobel went to a guy who sequenced the entire Neanderthal genome and found that while all non-African people have remnants of this ancient people in their genome, sub-Saharan blacks are missing out on it. Which explains their relative primitiveness.
Blah blah blah
Ron do you not get tempest fugits
Jews or whatever faction that separates from being human is an undeveloped energy
Lordy lordy, what got your panties in a wad?
Methinks you are Projecting too much.
Projecting? On a second thought, you deserve everything the Jews have in store for you.
Apparently many intelligent, well-educated people disagree with your transliteration of Πυθαγόρας (Pythagorus/Pythagoras) and your transliteration of θεώρημα (theorum/theorem). You do not appreciate that your choices “Pythagoras” and “theorem” are only transliterations, not a translations — surely not commanded by any defensible intellectual norm.
Your trouble is that you consider only your perception of the Greek spelling of the ancient Greek man’s name and the math term. You do not consider whether an English-language or French-language or Estonian-language transliteration, or even Latin transliteration, is defensibly reasonable within the intelligent linguistic milieu of the transliterator.
If you use Google translator, and enter either “theorum” or “theorem,” you receive the same result — Theorum = θεώρημα and theorem = θεώρημα. And both results are reverse-quasi-translated “theórima.” See
here: https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=kT&sl=en&tl=el&text=theorum&op=translate
[which Google says it translated “from the Latin” (my emphasis, Loup-Bouc)]
and
here: https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=kT&sl=en&tl=el&text=theorem&op=translate
The Google translator result is nearly the same for a“Pythagorus”/“Pythagoras” alternative.
In the “Pythagoras” case, Google gives “Πυθαγόρας.”
See here: https://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=kT&sl=en&tl=el&text=Pythagoras&op=translate
In the Pythagorus case, too, Google tranlater gives “Πυθαγόρας.”
But in the “Pythagorus” case, Google translator adds:
• (1) “Showing translation for Pythagoras,” putting “Pythagoras” as hyperlink,
and
• (2) “Translate instead Pythagorus,” putting “Pythagorus” as a hyperlink.
When one clicks on the “Pythagorus” hyperlink, one gets “Pythagorus” = “Πυθαγόρας.” But Google adds: “Did you mean Pythagoras”
** [Side-Note: Often, I have encountered Google’s asking such question when I type into a Google search a legal or medical term that is standard in legal or medical parlance but does not exist in Google’s world. Sometimes the same occurs when I type in a non-jargon English-language term that Google’s “mind” has not counted. If I type “XYA,” Google asks: “Did you mean XYZ”? Or Google may present results for a similar or related term, but not the term I enter. Example: “imperiosity” (which is an English-language term). End of Side-Note.] **
I am not a Latin scholar. But I can read Latin because of the law’s use of Latin — more so because of some law work I did in a case involving ownership of the foreshore of the New Jersey (Atlantic) coastal plain, a matter that depended much on ancient Roman law of “ius publicum” versus “ius privatum” and several other special aspects of ancient Roman law.
I should guess that if one asked a well educated ancient Roman how he would transliterate Πυθαγόρας, he would use Pythagorus or Pythagoras.
I own a respectable Latin grammar text. I have searched it thoroughly for at least one instance of a nominative singular (noun) ending in “as.” I found none — of ANY declension.
My Latin grammar book includes a glossary that compares a number of English and Latin terms, including some proper names. The glossary includes a comparison of English and Latin transliterations of Πυθαγόρας. The glossary gives the choice Pythagorus/Pythagoras.
I speak English (mother tongue) and also French and Italian. French has nouns ending “as” (masculine) or “asse” (feminine) — some being transliterations, e.g., “pancréas” = “pancreas” (noun, masculine). The term “pancreas”/“pancréas” derives from Greek by way of Latin. The “MODERN” Latin is “pancreas.”
But in French, Πυθαγόρας is “Pythagore,” NOT “Pythagoras.”
Compare the French translation of “pylorus” (English derived from “LATE” Latin “pylorus”). In French, “pylorus” is “pylore” (noun, masculine) . The French “Pythagore” corresponds to a Latinate transliteration of Πυθαγόρας — “Pythagorus.”
So, per parallel logic: Pylorus = pylore; Πυθαγόρας = Pythagorus = Pythagore.
In Italian, Πυθαγόρας is “Pitagora.” Though the Italian transliteration ends its Πυθαγόρας transliteration with an “a” (not a “u”), the whole term is little like “Pythagoras.”
Well-educated intelligent French and Italians are reasonable if they choose to transliterate Πυθαγόρας according to the milieux of their societies, cultures, language-tendencies, and tastes. The same is true for English-speakers. No intellectual harm — no linguistic, ideational, or communication confoundment — needs follow from such transliteration-choice’s annoying your taste, DrWatson (a pseudonym from which one can infer a notable degree of silly pretension).
“Pythagoras” is NOT a translation. It is a transliteration. Any reasonably intelligent transliteration is defensible — not legitimately labelable “idiotic.” “Pythagorus is a reasonable, intelligent transliteration-choice of a very-well educated English-speaker — just as “Pythagoras” is such choice.
By declaring “Pythagorus” and “theorum” usages of “idiotic” people, you show yourself idiotic.
How incredible to judge 13 million people as though it is one person. Jews are just like Christians in that there are good, bad, and everything in between. Jews are not monolithic, they are individualistic. You are simply inciting prejudice. It is doing exactly what the controllers want, that is, to keep humanity divided, to scapegoat.
Who pulls the strings behind all the events today in the world? The Jews? No, its the Nazi/eugenicists. Did you know some Jews supported the Nazis, even today, the government of Israel has supported the Nazis in the Ukraine. But mostly it is the gentiles, the Rockefellers, Bushes, J.P. Morgan, etc., etc. No one calls out the non Jews who have committed such heinous atrocities in the past. No one calls out the Christians like Biden, Trump, and most all the leaders in the world outside of Zelensky. Zelensky is a poor example of a Jew.
There is no coordinated effort of the Jews to do bad things. So, why don’t you get off the attack on Jews and other ethnicities? We are all LIFE. These superficial distinctions of color and beliefs are not of any real importance. No race or religion is composed of superior people. It’s just the old U curve. Stop comparing.
I believe that we are here to embody love, not to hate, nor to be arrogant.
I agree with what you say regarding Jews as a collective, and all other human collectives. However I do think that Judaism is not a nett benefit to humanity, nor are its offspring, Christianity and Islam. All these cults do manifest some good points, but only in advocating basic moral truths known to humanity long before Judaism appropriated them. But all still manifest, particularly in their ‘fundamentalist’ forms, extreme xenophobia, aggression and supremacism, all of which, I think it is plain, are not of benefit to humanity.
Human genetic diversity is greatest in Africa, where, as far as we know, humanity first appeared. Do you consider that a negative?
You are dealing with a lot of messed up psychological disturbed people on this website UR, who it believe that Jewish Conspiracies are what the world, the entirety of the world is about. That it is a designed cabal. No amount of proof will ever be enough for them. It is all related. The non Jews are Shabbas Goys that are part of their scheme.
You are describing the human condition. The entirety of the human race. If there was no religion it would be the same.
1. the minority always fears the majority, even if it’s been well treated. this is human nature.
2. fear and hate are the same.
3. the minority may deny this because he is unaware of it. humans are at least as opaque to themselves as to others.
4. thus when a minority has any power it is detrimental to the majority. this is true of the minority donor class as much as it is of an ethnic minority.
worse than this is:
1. jews have not always been treated well by europeans or christians.
2. they are pathologically ethnocentric.
3. they have obscenely disproportionate power for their numbers.
4. thus disaster.
no conspiracy theory necessary.
No educated person would spell Pythagoras “Pythagorus”, and especially theorem “theorum”. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/theorum
The site you refer to is for children: https://teachers.henrico.k12.va.us/short_pump/rettig_d/ABlockProjects/woodnewhart/Site/About_Pythagorus.html
Enough said.
You know what, I am starting to have more nuanced views of blacks. The 3 recent cases of outspokenness causing each a backlash in their careers earned my respect. Also, they (these 3) don’t look stupid or unpleasant. I wish there were more of them like this.