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A Times survey of twelve Pennsylvanians reveals confusion more than opinion

It’s shocking how bewildered the American voter is; you would think they are in the midst of a depression or pandemic. In a recent New York Times article, two reporters held a conversation with twelve Americans from Pennsylvania who revealed not so much their opinions as the miasma of vague impressions and misinformation with which they elect their representatives. One fellow said, “I don’t do politics,” and he might have been speaking for the group.

Asked why she thought the country was on the right track, “Carrie” listed among her reasons “Our foreign relations are better.” Maybe they are with Canada and the Solomon Islands, but no improvement is appreciable anywhere else. She hadn’t read the recent comment by Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, a very sober man indeed, that the U.S. was like a “child playing with matches.” If Americans understood the present state of relations with his country, they would all be digging holes out in their backyards and covering them with slabs of plywood.

What were their opinions of Donald Trump? Most were negative — The Times didn’t hold their pow-wow in Texas. But “Robert” offered this pearl: “Seeing how he governed and his genuine affection for the country was, frankly, moving, seeing somebody who was unabashedly pro-American.” Apparently, Robert admired Trump’s chaotic White House, forgave the petty president for dishing on any American who exercised the right to criticize him, and felt that Biden and previous presidents are anti-American; or maybe their affection for the country didn’t move him because they didn’t hug flags.

Another man, “Dorris,” reflected the opinion of others in saying that Trump’s business experience had been good for the economy: “He made really good business deals that I saw. He had China paying us. Plus, he’s been president before, so he has a little more experience. I think he’s a good businessman and he’ll make good business moves for the country.”

I wish he had articulated what China was paying us for. The export-import ratio between the U.S. and China has been pretty constant over the past decade, roughly 3.5 to 1 in China’s favor. Other participants in the discussion agreed that Trump’s business background translates naturally to economic issues. Yet his tax cuts augmented the federal deficit, and the chummy relations between Russia and China — to which he gave a big post-Obama push — are leading to the dollar’s replacement as the world’s reserve currency.

Reading this discussion, I found it hard to believe that America’s economy is doing well, the Dow now over 40,000; for the portrait of America that emerges from this conversation is that of a confused and frightened citizenry trying to assemble some understanding of the country and world from the snatches of radio chatter they hear on the morning commute and from the pronouncements of orotund news anchors; altogether they amount to Plato’s shadows on the cave wall. Here are the first four of their one-word summaries of the upcoming election: “scared,” “concerned,” “embarassed,” and “anxious.” None of them used the terms “excited” or “interesting.”

Nor, like Plato’s prisoners, do they want to escape the cave and face reality, for this would require reading, for which they have little time, and thinking, which they reserve for their paid time. Many expressed doubts and confusion about issues and candidates, but not one showed any desire to dig deeper. Such is the island mentality of Americans: not just disinterest in world politics, but in society beyond the front door. An American’s outreach to the world beyond the workplace goes by areas of interest: Little League baseball, the church, volunteer work at an animal shelter, the quilting bee. They rarely see themselves as part of a community. They seem to embody Margaret Thatcher’s famous quote: “Who is society? There is no such thing! There are individual men and women and there are families.”

So politics and the chore of voting are a bore for the participants in this survey. Having little knowledge of public affairs, they are prey to the vilest political advertising in the world, unable to think critically about the nonsense spewed by and about candidates. Lavrov’s comment about the American foreign-policy elite being children pertains to the citizenry as well.

And by the way, while much is made about the political decline of “the West,” I don’t see this in Europe, where I live. With the exception of of the United Kingdom, Europeans are much better informed about current affairs, both at home and abroad — for “abroad” is usually only a short drive away; for example, French agricultural subsidies drive Spanish farmers crazy. But when at election time, Europeans reward and punish in coherent proportions.

Jared Taylor recently wrote on this site about the rise of the right — “Germany for the Germans!” — but while the European right’s emphasis is on illegal immigration, the other side of the issue is American domination. Europeans have never been comfortable with it, and their resentment is now growing because it is clear that America is willing to throw them under the bus in a conflict with Russia.

Donald Trump continues to scowl, crowing about making America great again, and Kamala Harris parries with her “joy” campaign — effectively, if the polls are any indication. It’s a cartoon more than a political campaign. Accordingly, the participants in the Times conversation, as if they were children playing a game, were asked for one-word descriptions of the candidates, both presidents and vice-presidents. They were asked about they felt about each one running the country, and about economic policy, energy policy, and abortion — all this in a general, rate-them-one-to-five way. Attempts to explain their one-words or their one-to-fives ended up — to put it kindly — odd.

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The best question went unasked: is it right that their country arms Israel for it to continue genocide against Palestinians? In keeping with the mainstream media’s deep-sixing of the Gaza mess, The Times’ interview never mentioned Gaza, and Israel only once: that philosopher “Dorris” complained, “And now Iran is supporting the war against Israel.” Unlike Philip Giraldi, Dorris considers Israel our friend.

The only really interesting question in the interview was the last one: “How confident are you that the election results will accurately reflect the will of American voters?” Never mind that the will of American voters is about as strong as Joe Biden’s mind. The answer — a one-to-five rating, one being low — reflected widespread suspicion about the fidelity of the vote count: seven of the twelve participants answered with a 3 or less, and one participant didn’t even vote. The evident oddities of the 2020 vote seem to have made a deep impression on people. Apart from the 2000-election mess in Florida, I had never heard any serious doubts about previous election results.

What must they make of this in other countries? I would imagine that the Russian intelligentsia views it all with complacency: America will fall of its own weight if left unprovoked. Perhaps this influences Putin’s reluctance to retaliate strongly against Nato. The Chinese must be smug in their “autocracy” — the fashionable term in Biden’s Washington — seeing that their own people have a great solidarity with “society” than Americans do with theirs.

As for average Americans, what a sorry period this is for them! Harassed by lawyers and insurance companies, as suspicious of doctors as of used-car dealers, shaken by school violence, obligated to accept every imaginable type of sexuality, ever less sure of their footing on the slippery decks of the economy. Ultimately, the participants of The Times survey give the impression of people just trying to survive, and who have no time to understand the world they live in — much less read something about it.

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  1. The best question went unasked: is it right that their country arms Israel for it to continue genocide against Palestinians?

    A better, corollary question, which apparently didn’t cross the author’s mind:

    If you don’t want your country ruled on behalf of an Establishment that arms Israel for it to continue genocide against Palestinians, why debase yourself by endorsing it voting in its Most Important Elections Ever?

    •�Agree: Anonymous534, Adam Smith
    •�Replies: @Philip Kraske
  2. in general, rainbow Demonrat voters get what they vote for: more and more free stuff. So they are rational, intelligent voters.

    by contrast, white Republiscam voters get shat on by the Republiscams they vote for election after election after election. Yet they go right on doing it.

    the only possible conclusion is that White voters are remarkably stupid.

    •�Agree: meamjojo
  3. meamjojo says:

    “The best question went unasked: is it right that their country arms Israel for it to continue genocide against Palestinians?”

    You write a perceptive article (welcome to mainstream people, regardless of what country they may vote in) but then you write the comment quoted above and I realize that you are just as stupid as the people you write about.

    You really don’t understand the meaning of genocide, do you? I bet that you have never even looked the word up in a dictionary. But as a pro-Hamas supporter and Israel/Jew hater, it fits your narrative to throw the word around.

    This article talks about Israelis supposed genocide and oppression of Palestinians. You could learn much from it.

    Ideological mechanism of anti-Zionism includes whitewashing of Hamas
    By CATHERINE PEREZ-SHAKDAM
    September 9, 2024

    Anti-Zionism, in its current incarnation, has evolved into a particularly pernicious ideology, one that is far removed from any legitimate critique of Israeli policies. It has become a worldview that not only denies the right of the Jewish state to exist but also rejects Israel’s legitimacy entirely, regardless of its borders.

    This ideology often repurposes age-old antisemitic tropes for modern purposes, reinforcing prejudices under the guise of political discourse. At its core, anti-Zionism is not simply a political stance but a tool of deep-seated prejudice, employed to rationalize and even justify the actions of groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis.

    Central to this narrative are two enduring myths: the baseless claim that Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian people and the revisionist trope that Israel or the Jews are colonial oppressors.

    The accusation that Israel is engaged in a campaign of genocide against the Palestinian Arabs is not only false; it represents a grotesque distortion of the term “genocide,” a word that carries the weight of humanity’s darkest moments – whether one thinks of the Holocaust, the Rwandan slaughter, or the unspeakable atrocities inflicted upon the Yazidis by ISIS.

    http://jpost.com/opinion/article-819239

    •�Troll: KingOfWands
  4. @Greta Handel

    Too long a question, Greta. These are short-questions folks; thrust, parry, kill. And that “debase”! You’d have to define it for them first.
    Just kidding. Thanks for the comment.

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  5. @Philip Kraske

    Thank you for the gracious reply. Your essay is, IMO, insightful and accurate, which I should have included in my previous comment. It complements another recent one by Steve Penfield focused on military fetishism.

    Thanks to technology, corporate consolidation, and a national government that without practical exception couldn’t care less about its subjects, 21st Century USA consists of a large (but hopefully declining) majority of the most effectively brainwashed people in human history. What really matters to the Establishment isn’t even up for discussion. We need to address its tools like RedBlue pillow fight politics with boycotts and derision.

    •�Replies: @RadicalCenter
  6. anonymous[139] •�Disclaimer says:

    Half the population is mentally average or below average and average is really very unimpressive. Throw in a couple points above the mediocre average and you’ve got a majority. This is who votes and determines what the popular culture is like. Mencken made a point about not underestimating the American public and that’s as true today as it was then.

  7. Nothing has changed in my lifetime…have a look at the Vox pops done in different eras on people’s opinion on politics and politicians and you get the same “rabbit in the headlights” stare and some mangled platitudes uttered.

    I always thought democracy was a good thing…but that was an opinion based in ignorance…I thought all people would be interested in how they were governed and want a say on how their communities and society developed and what was done in their name…how wrong was I?

    Most people wouldn’t notice if their head was gone and would go about life out of habit…propaganda does work…all you have to do as a malevolent force is to convince the brainless majority that propaganda is truth, put on a bit of a show like the U.S elections do and they’re rush in droves to the ballot box and put an X beside your name.

    Its depressing and that’s why we have the world run by the worst.

  8. @Greta Handel

    True, and you could also vote for a non-genocidal “third party” or write someone in.

    Anyone but trump, harris, or rfk, another genocidal scumbag.

    No more voting for republicans or democrats.

    Never vote for professional liars (lawyers),
    usurious scumbags (bankers),
    career politicians with little to no productive work experience in the competitive marketplace,
    people who spy on their fellow Americans for a living (FBI, NSA, etc.),
    people who are “proud” of their psychological disorders and unhealthy perversions (“Gays”),
    or proud murderers-for-hire (“veterans”).

    Mrs. Center and I are going to vote third-party for president — two different parties, to help them both get guaranteed ballot access next election cycle.

    For US Senate from CA, we’ll write in James Patrick Anthony Dore.

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