Despite the fuss and feathers, all Darryl Cooper spoke about on Tucker was what’s already been out in mainstream print from AJP Taylor and Pat Buchanan, at least on WWII stuff.

This is a great example of how the MSM establishment is fat more worried about Hitler in 2024 than they were in 2008 or 1961

I am writing to Tucker Carlson for an interview. I am craving for some publicity, like the one Mr Cooper is getting. He must celebrating his rise every night with Schnaps. I will be paying Carlson, not the other way around. The outcome of Cooper’s interview is that, the Jews and their supporters cannot force their distorted fabreicated history on us. Jewish history and alleged “unique” culture are lies. These lies are unconditionally enforced upon us by Jews and their supporters. We must resist to accept Jewish lies.

There was a Holocaust during and after WWII only it was the Germans who were “holocausted� not Jews.

Let’s just pretend every lie about the holocaust was true, considering the Jews behind the genocide of millions in the HOLODOMOR, and their declaring war on Germany, plus the book, “Germany Must Perish�, are people denying Hitler and Germany the right to defend themselves from suffering the same fate as Ukrainians in 1932-1933.

Cooper argues further that Hitler, after achieving victory over Poland, fired off peace proposals to France and England, begging them to rescind their war declaration. Hitler even flew planes over England to drop leaflets expressing Germany’s desire for peace. According to messages like these, Hitler not only wanted peace, he wanted England to remain strong—with all of its colonies intact—in order to thwart the great communist menace in the Soviet Union.

Britain’s most famous historian argued this too:

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“ultimately the war boiled down to two super powers led disproportionately by Jews utterly destroying one super power which refused to be led by Jews. That is the western theater of WWII in a nutshell.�

Not sure non-Black history is even taught in primary schools any longer. But if it is, there should be a chapter labeled World War II, consisting of only the passage above in 72 point type.

Part of the solution to saving the White race is discovering the truths behind WWII, namely:

1. The jewish “holocaust” is a total fabrication. Sure, people in the camps died, but there was absolutely no plan to exterminate anyone. Knowledge of this is critical to breaking the guilt complex that pervades over European whites who feel guilt and shame over the “holocaust”. The purpose of keeping this lie alive is to keep jews firmly planted on top of the pyramid of victimhood, of which our society has been structured. Without the “holocaust”, jews couldn’t retain the power they do today, and the made up jewish homeland of “Israel” would surely fall. Besides, if people understood just how much death and destruction organized jewery has inflicted onto the world, they wouldn’t feel any sympathy for dead jews anyway. Germany just wanted the parasitical jews out of Germany for good.

2. Hitler, Goebbels, and et all were trying to get not just Germans, but to an extent, all European Whites to become very race conscious, or what some call today: “race realism”. A people who are fiercely loyal to their own race, (in group preference), understand the differences among the various races, and are connected to their racial ancestors will see their race, culture and civilization exist into the infinite future. This is especially true of Whites today.

3. There was an attempt by National Socialist Germany to shed Christianity from Europe and the White identity. This may be a very hard pill to swallow, but the Germans during this time recognized and understood that Christianity is not the religion of native European Whites, and that Christianity in fact hinders European Whites more than it helps them. This is primarily due to the fact that Christianity makes Whites race blind, atomizes the White race (for example, they see each other as individuals rather than a collective group as there is no collective salvation in Christianity), but most of all, makes Whites incredibly passive to outsider threats, whether benign or not. The strong, “warrior spirit” of the Pagans was ripped away from Whites during Roman times and contributed towards the fall of the Roman empire. If Italians are to opera and Jews are to revolutions, than Christianity was the first, and most successful of jewish revolutions, which deleted and over wrote the operating system of the White European mind.

4. European Whites were the greatest victims during WWII. Research the Holodomor, (an actual holocaust and genocide perpetuated on eastern European Whites by the jewish bolsheviks who seized power in Russia), the bombing of Dresdin, the slaughter and starvation of German soldiers after the end of WWII, (the Roosevelt death camps). This was all jewish revenge for daring to try to break free from jewish control. Knowledge of these events in history, (just to name a few), will fill you with a terrible, frightening anger and sadness, all at once. It is truly horrifying, and anyone who fully understands what happened during that time couldn’t help but feel complete and total hatred for the perpetrators: organized jewery. I myself have never known hatred toward a people until I truly knew the jew. Anyway, if Whites so badly want to feel sympathy for people who are cast as victims, than they should feel sympathy for themselves and their ancestors, who have suffered the most under jewish aggression.

It’s not over for us as Whites, we can win.

It was Jewish comedian and podcaster Dave Smith that turned Tucker on to Darryl Cooper.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathy_Young

Born in Moscow to a Jewish family,[3] Ekaterina Jung

End of story.

The reaction by (((the regime))) to what is essentially a slice of common sense in the public arena is a reflection of the fear which is deeply held by (((those who rule America))).

Once the official narrative re: WWII can be openly questioned then those who live under the Nuremberg Occupation can more easily be freed (spiritually, mentally, even physically).

Kiss those reparation and restitution payments goodbye! oh goy.

I would say reevaluating the Second World War ranks higher in importance than being versed in race realism, the Jewish Question, or white identity, as crucial as all of these things are.

I don’t see how it’s possible to be certain of that, but in any case the author doesn’t really put forth a convincing argument that WWII revisionism is today more important for Whites and the future of their countries and their race than ending the taboo on acknowledging irremediable biological racial differences, and much more importantly taking these differences into consideration as part of good governance, meaning government that operates in the interest of Whites, e.g. when formulating rational policies about whom Whites allow into their nation states.

But there is rhetorical help available to the author in making his case — it comes from Did Six Million Really Die? by Richard Harwood:

Discouragement of Nationalism

In terms of political blackmail, however, the allegation that Six Million Jews died during the Second World War has much more far-reaching implications for the people of Britain and Europe than simply the advantages it has gained for the Jewish nation. And here one comes to the crux of the question: Why the Big Lie? What is its purpose? In the first place, it has been used quite unscrupulously to discourage any form of nationalism. Should the people of Britain or any other European country attempt to assert their patriotism and preserve their national integrity in an age when the very existence of nation-states is threatened, they are immediately branded as “neo-Nazis.� Because, of course, Nazism was nationalism, and we all know what happened then — Six Million Jews were exterminated! So long as the myth is perpetuated, peoples everywhere will remain in bondage to it; the need for international tolerance and understanding will be hammered home by the United Nations until nationhood itself, the very guarantee of freedom, is abolished.

As an aside, Ernst Zündel reprinted Did Six Million Really Die? and sent a copy to a great many influential Canadians, including every member of the Parliament of Canada — this was the start of his legal troubles.

. . . .while Victor Davis Hanson at least had the decency to stick to the facts,

Victor Davis Hanson is an over-educated Zionist shill. His best days are behind him, and he should limit his writings to the brown take-over of California; at least he has some expertise in that matter.

How’s the family farm doing, Vic?

This is a great example of how the MSM establishment is fat more worried about Hitler in 2024 than they were in 2008 or 1961

As time goes by, the jews will increasingly have to remind their goyim that they only exist to serve ZOG. In the future, worship of the jews and their very sacred Holocaust will become the official state religion and the population will be forced to attend a weekly mass to confirm their belief, and I am not being sarcastic here, this will literally happen in the future if current trends continue.

Regarding Seth Dillon’s tweet, French people did not seem to mind being occupied by the Germans. Post-war historical propagandists overemphasize French “resistance,” but in reality there was very little. Mostly the “resistance” was made up of faggots who had fled to Britain.

And it should be obvious that German-occupied Paris was much better than the currently Africanized drag queen Paris.

This is why conservatives like Dillon are completely worthless. They will always choose drag queens as the “lesser evil” over what would be viewed as “far right” governance.

American WWII propaganda is so thoroughly mythologized with Hollywood nonsense that even if you just cite mainstream historical books, you could end up being attacked for it. In fact, attempts to merely demythologize the narrative are viewed as being intrinsically anti-semitic and evil.

I’ve always been told that the reason why Westerners – Americans particularly – don’t care for the plight of Palestinians is because Palestinians are “brown” and Western white Christians are “racists” who just don’t care about non-whites. Whites, supposedly, reserve their empathy for their fellow white Christians. It’s notable that this is a favourite talking point of the so-called “liberal, anti-Zionist” Jews, according to whom Zionism’s crimes are all ultimately the fault of Christians and “white supremacy.”

But the attacks on Darryl Cooper suggest that this may not be the true reason why whites show disregard for Palestinians, but that it’s really a consequence of something else: of conditioning, at the hands of the Jewish media cartel, into callousness and contempt towards the Jews’ personal enemies – regardless of the religion or color of skin of the particular enemies in question. This would explain the contempt one regularly receives – as Cooper received – when drawing attention to the war crimes committed against German civilians in WWII.

While much of the ire directed towards Cooper was for his criticism of Churchill, this was not the only cause. Another major source was for his provocative comments about the subsequent demographic changes that have taken place in Europe – changes which are a direct consequence of the outcome of that war and the “victory” which the Allies supposedly had. The true victors – the Jews – are, I’m sure, particularly unhappy about the calls for Nuremberg-style tribunals for those who have perpetrated these crimes against the native peoples of Europe.

Amusingly, one particularly histrionic voice has been that of Ben Domenech – Meghan McCain’s wife – who was so incensed by the discussion that he posted a video of Cooper’s words played over footage of the liberation of Auschwitz – footage gleaned from the magnificent award-winning WWII documentary Band of Brothers. Big Ben really showed the mean ignorant historian what was what, didn’t he?

Cooper noted:

These people rending their garments don’t care about Churchill – leftists call him a genocidal racist all day, no one cares. They care when you try to humanize the Germans. That’s enough to trigger a 48-hour hate ritual, and degrading repetitions of “In this house, we believe… â€�

Notably, the Germans were white and Christian and white Americans derive more of their heritage from Germany than any other single European country, including Britain. It’s also notable that many Americans descend from nations which were allied with the Nazis, such as Italy, Romania, Austria, Croatia, Slovakia, Bulgaria and Hungary. All of these countries are white and Christian and all suffered varying degrees of criminal retribution at the hands of the Allies – but get little if any attention or empathy from court history.

Thus: If German civilians get little to no empathy from white Americans – many of them of German extraction themselves – then one must revisit the claim that white Christians reserve their empathy only for their fellow white Christians or that any such empathy-giving is predicated on how closely related they are to the group in question at all. The German civilians who were immolated in Dresden, and the spittle-flecked rage one receives for bringing up this unconscionable war crime, represent a striking counterexample to that claim.

And what of the millions of Christians who were murdered in Eastern Europe at the hands of Bolshevik Jews – the very crime the Nazis were fighting to ensure would not be repeated in Germany or the rest of Western and Central Europe? Why do these crimes get such short shrift? White Christian ethnocentrism? That doesn’t make sense.

In truth, contrary to the claim that whites don’t show empathy for out-groups, the opposite is true. Whites have been assiduously trained, over the last century or so, to extend their empathy preferentially to non-whites and non-Christians (as seen, for example, by the West’s cruel disregard for the treatment of Boers in South Africa, and the idolization of Mandela).

An example can also be found in NATO’s bombing of Yugoslavia during the Kosovo War, where a coalition of white Christian states, lead by the United States, took the side of the Albanian Muslims and then aggressively brought war crimes charges against their fellow white Christians. That doesn’t make sense under the model of white Christians only caring about or siding with other white Christians.

In any event, in employing the model that “white Christians only care about other whites Christians,” how does it makes sense for white Christians in the U.S. to support the Jewish state of Israel blowing up ancient Christian churches in Palestine? How does it makes sense that they would support Israel in its project of destroying the world’s oldest Christian community who are, in fact, the closest extant relatives of Jesus’s original disciples and, indeed, of Jesus Christ himself? Because Palestinian Christians are “brown”? Really? They are no more brown – indeed, perhaps less – than the average Israeli Jew.

These examples are truly riddle-wrapped condundrums according to the standard model that white Christian sentiments and behaviors are the product of ethnocentrism, racism and disregard for non-whites and non-Christians.

And according to narratives of oppressor/oppressed dynamics, where the “white” Jewish state of Israel is the rich, powerful, colonial oppressor and the brown Palestinian Muslims are the oppressed people of color – the kind of people we’ve all been conditioned to support in every other conflict around the world (unless they happen to be a rival of Israel, like Iraq, where, again, a striking lack of concern for civilian life has been shown; see, e.g., Madeleine Albright’s depraved comments about the death of 500,000 Iraqi children) America’s behavior defies explanation and is aberrant with the stance it takes in virtually every other conflict around the world.

Here’s an alternative model: The axis of empathy for white Westerners isn’t “white” versus “brown” or “Christian” versus “non-Christian” but, in truth, “friends of Jews” versus “enemies of Jews” and “good for Jews” versus “bad for the Jews.”

This is because Jews control Western media and are thereby able to condition whites into sentiments which reflect those of the Jews and Jewish media masters themselves.

The white Christians who consume Jew-controlled mass media and are raised on Jew-controlled school curriculum don’t themselves understand their own sentiments and programming, and nor do they understand where their feelings and beliefs come from and whose interests they really serve. Consequently, they are no more capable of articulating them (as I’ve done here) than were the citizens of Oceania in Nineteen Eighty-Four able to articulate why they so hated Emmanuel Goldstein (beyond superficial slogans), or whose interests that hatred really served. They just know that Hitler Goldstein was very bad because Jew Media Big Brother said so. Indeed, they’d be horrified, like Neo awakening from the Matrix, to discover the true origin of their beliefs and sentiments — assuming that they are capable of breaking out of their conditioning long enough to admit such at all.

The Jews, through their control over mass media, have indoctinated whites into a “false consciousness”: a condition wherein the masses unwittingly adopt the ideology of the ruling class – i.e., the Jewish media owners. They have adopted an, essentially, parasitic Jewish ideology and mythos, where the Jews are always and everywhere the good guys and protagonists (no matter what crimes they commit) and the enemies of the Jews are always and everywhere evil.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_consciousness

Even more perversely, whites subordinately accept their role in this narrative as the chief bad guys of history as descendants of “white supremacists, slave owners and Nazis”, these being the chief bogeymen and antagonists in the Jews’ own founding myths (which conveniently airbrush out the Jews’ personal enormously outsized role in the slave trade and the murderous communist revolutions (e.g., Bolshevism) for which the Nazis were reaction and defense). In particular, whites have let themselves be written in as the chief baddies in the Grand Founding Myth of our age: WWII and the Holocaust Story.

That the white man is, consequently, being dispossessed, replaced, subjugated and destroyed in all of his historic homelands throughout the West, where Jewish media power dominates, ought thus not be too surpising. Our foundational narratives virtually demand it.

One wonders if something similar happened in ancient Rome: if, in an increasingly multicultural Rome, the descendants of the Roman founding stock were demonized and forced to apologize for “historic crimes and privileges” against the nations of the immigrant newcomers. This resulted in a general cultural malaise and a bastardization and adulteration of Roman identity through a continuous infusion of ever more distant foreign tribes and blood. Loss of civic virtue followed wherein neither the old stock nor immigrants newcomers cared to maintain the customs, traditions and Gods on which the Empire was founded. Founding stock Romans – real Romans – were dispossessed from leadership and soon they also stopped volunteering for military service in a nation which they felt didn’t represent them and their interests.

Is it a coincidence that the Roman empire saw its greatest extent under Trajan – the first emperor born outside of Italy (in Spain) – and as the Empire declined the emperors were drawn from ever more exotic locales? The empire kept growing, for over 500 years, surviving countless assaults and civil wars, all the way up until Trajan – and then it started to shrink. A rather provocative fact. Rome could survive everything – except diversity and multiculturalism. Diversity didn’t make Rome strong; it destroyed it.

It is not Jews but Poles, Danes, Norwegians and other assorted Europeans who should be offended by this Cooper the Historian.
Clearly for him bombardment of Warsaw in September 39 doesn’t exist neither does murder of Polish intelligentsia, clergy, any leadership.
Why so much concern for British Empire and nothing for Greek and Yugoslavs?

Yes! And starving Kike elites of their staple of lies should have them firmly by their fascist balls. But don’t expect the MSM to participate in this gargantuan project.

Why did the Great Defender of European culture had to brutalize Poland. Could he not have a local war to annex Danzig and the Corridor?
But these things don’t exist for Cooper, Tuckerson et al and their Anglocentric viewpoint. Only Churchill has agency, others Europeans don’t really exist.

John F. Kennedy’s diary (1945):

“Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived.”

“He had in him the stuff of which legends are made.”

Damn. This is what — like the 4th or 5th time Darryll Cooper has come up on the front page of TUR since he’s been on Carlson? I might have to go watch the interview after all. Although I agree it’s important, and I know that WWII is one of Unz’s major interests, and I don’t want to go too hard on this essay because it’s for a good cause, I have a major bone to pick with the following statement:

I would say reevaluating the Second World War ranks higher in importance than being versed in race realism, the Jewish Question, or white identity, as crucial as all of these things are.

What’s the problem with Quinn’s take here? Well, he’s got his reasoning upside down here: it’s simply impossible to reevaluate WWII without being versed in the Jewish Question. Hell, it’s impossible to understand the world we’re living in without being versed in the JQ. Get that through your head Quinn! If you don’t grasp the JQ, you’re still living in a Jew-created inverted reality and you have no idea the depths to which the Jews have manipulated your world, your mind and everything around you.

The Jews actually tell you how they have been manipulating you and what they are planning through revelation of the method and predictive programming, using Hollywood as their major tool to do this. Examples abound, such as The Matrix, They Live, Thirteenth Floor, Dark City, and in each one the Jews are revealing that they consider us a bunch of mindless zombies who can’t see The Nose that’s right in front of them. And what’s worse is that they’re right — most people are just robots programmed to repeat the lies the Jews have shoved into their heads.

So how are a bunch of mindless automata going to reevaluate WWII? First, they have to snap out of their zombie state and understand that they have been living in a Jew-created inverted reality all their lives. When someone understands that, then the reevaluation of WWII comes in an instant: it becomes shockingly obvious. And then the deeper you go into the JQ rabbit hole, the more you will fully understand the world we’re living in. So invert your statement Quinn, which could be rewritten like this:

I would say that being versed in the Jewish Question ranks higher in importance than any other question, in order to reevaluate not only the Second World War, but all of world history.

Within a week of the capture of Buchenwald, the Hollywood director Billy Wilder was in the camp making a film of propaganda lies that is still circulating today. The film complete with props claimed that the “nazis” made soap from the fat of Jewish inmates, made lampshades from the skin of inmates and shrunk their heads (hehe). Even the Holocaust â„¢ï¸� establishment now admits this was all a lie…

What Young doesn’t understand is that the degeneracy exemplified by the Olympics and mass-third-world immigration are threatening to take down all of Western civilization.

I think she does understand. She just doesn’t want the rest of us to.

It’s passing strange that someone like Cathy Young — who has sometimes been a useful ally of the alt-right — instantly turns coat when she perceives her tribal shibboleths at risk. Strange, or something.

And yet even though the (((official narrative))) had to admit that not any where close to 6 million “Jews� were killed these (((news sources))) still keeping repeating the same number. I lean towards the Red Cross numbers of a couple hundred thousand and change. Wow, how horrific when you consider between 50-70 million non Jews died in the war.

Don’t forget the masturbation torture device and German shepherds with poisonous fangs.

One does not need to go that far when you have 911 orchestrated terror that was perpetrated in broad day light and was tel LIE vised to the whole global population. There are layers upon layers of lies and deceit in the official 911 story. There are more holes than a fine Swiss cheese.

One can only deduce that his-story can only be written by the powers be at any particular moment in time. Therefore we find ourselves at the mercy of what propaganda the powers be put out in their story.

In an age of universal deceit telling the truth is revolutionary!

People need to start using their own intellectual faculty given to them by their maker. Salvation can only be found in the truth. Subscribing to 911 lies, war on terror lies, Jesus died for your evil, Santa Claus lies, fraudulent money lies, etc will soon be exposed with the coming of the Anti-Christ Dajjal. God Almighty will separate those that are righteous and those that are frauds. Satanyahoo’s of the world including Santa Claus Christians, hypocrite Muslims along with so called God’s chosen one’s are in full display for everyone to see. Much more will be exposed in the future. So which side are you going to be on?

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Ron Unz made the specific point that most historians in the West ignore (or are unaware..Niall Ferguson?)and memory hole the German status quo ante peace proposal of 1916.
Wilson was trying to get reelected so it was not a priority for him, but if Britain and Germany had agreed to this proposal then no Versailles, no Hitler, and no endless White Guilt based on the historical architecture of WW2.

‘The Road Less Traveled’ , a book about the 1916 peace proposals, written by Philip Zelikow

LOL 😂 how could we possibly forget the masturbation devices.

Oy Vey.

But it is a very late point in the story of the West’s self-destruction. The West is murdering itself today because it chose to rebel against historic Christianity and Christendom. That guaranteed that those who won such parts of the revolution (the Reformation) would become allied ever more with Jews. And no victors of Reformation revolt became as tied directly too Jews as did Wealthy Anglo-0Saxon Protestants.

To stop the process, we must revive Christendom. Nothing else will work. In fact, everything else is part of the continuing suicide.

Such a victory would be truly world-historic; and the stuff of legends.

So Churchill was the ‘bad” guy of WWII according to some white nationalists? UK fighting Germany was just whites killing whites which led to decline of Western civilisation? Better for UK to make peace after fall of France in 1940 and let Germany attack Soviet Union later on?

You know who thought of that earlier and tried to avoid fighting Germany and just let Hitler go eastwards to attack USSR? Neville Chamberlain. Ya, that guy. That weak pathetic looking guy in the photos with Hitler.

How come those on the right, those white nationalists don’t defend Neville Chamberlain? He didn’t want to fight Hitler. His whole deal was to let Germany expand eastwards until Hitler satisfied himself with a war against Soviet Union. That was why he did nothing to stop Hitler. That is the REAL reason. Not the drivel you read in mainstream history – all that is rubbish.

“…the British Conservative government had reached the fantastic idea that they could kill two birds with one stone by setting Germany and Russia against one another in Eastern Europe. In this way they felt that the two enemies would stalemate one another, or that Germany would become satisfied with the oil of Rumania and the wheat of the Ukraine. It never occurred to anyone in a responsible position that Germany and Russia might make common cause, even temporarily, against the West. Even less did it occur to them that Russia might beat Germany and thus open all Central Europe to Bolshevism.

In order to carry out this plan of allowing Germany to drive eastward against Russia, it was necessary to do three things: (1) to liquidate all the countries standing between Germany and Russia; (2) to prevent France from honoring her alliances with these countries; and (3) to hoodwink the English people into accepting this as a necessary, indeed, the only solution to the international problem. The Chamberlain group were so successful in all three of these things that they came within an ace of succeeding, and failed only because of the obstinacy of the Poles, the unseemly haste of Hitler, and the fact that…

https://web.archive.org/web/20221029210347/http://www.yamaguchy.com/library/quigley/anglo_12b.html
http://www.carrollquigley.net/books.htm

So you hate Arabs and Palestinians? You know who was the British PM that waged the most savage war against Palestinians pre WWII? That’s right. Our weak looking friend Neville Chamberlain.

“…The general strike lasted from April to October 1936 and initiated a violent, peasant-led resistance movement in 1937. White and black kufiyahs were worn for the first time as a symbol of steadfastness. The rebellion was brutally suppressed. Over ten percent of the adult male Palestinian Arab population between 20 and 60 was killed, wounded, imprisoned or exiled. The revolt caused the British to give crucial support to pre-state Zionist militias…”

https://www.palestinianhistorytapestry.org/tapestry/0450-kuyffiyeh-1936-arab-revolt/

From the archives: Britain’s suppression of the arab revolt in Palestine

“…After September 1937, when the rebellion intensified, the army increasingly took charge in Palestine, with the “full power of search and arrest, independent of the police, and the right to shoot and kill any man attempting to escape search or ignoring challenges.â€� 14

Thus, starting from late 1937 or early 1938, Palestine was under de facto if not de jure martial law of some sort. Nor was military rule much affected by the international laws in place at the time (e.g., the succession of Geneva Conventions from 1864 to 1929 and the Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907) as these dealt mainly with the conduct of war and the treatment of prisoners of war (POWs) rather than with the maltreatment of civilians. Britain had classified the Arab Revolt as an internal insurrection and not an international war…”

https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/from-the-archives-britains-suppression-of-the-arab-revolt-in-palestine/

Neville Chamberlain is your guy. Don’t be fooled by those weak photos with Hitler. This guy Chamberlain was ruthless, authoritarian, unilateral, anti Bolshevik to the core, decisive and forceful. He was right up there will Mussolini, Hitler and Stalin. Don’t undersell the guy. Darryl Cooper should be talking more about Chamberlain if he hates Churchill so much. All that talk about him being pacifist, naive about Hitler, trying to “buy time” with appeasement to fight Hitler later on – all of that is complete garbage.

The fact that Cooper and more importantly Carlson are still alive and flourishing says a lot. The holocaust is being exposed as the big lie that it is, a hoax, a holohoax.

Cathy Young demonstrates TJB, or what you typically expect–anyone says anything remotely contrary to their agenda, and they spit on you, calling you an antisemite. Tiresome.

Yet I’ve often wondered how history would have worked out had Germany won? Could Germany have lasted, long term? It was the age of print newspapers and radio, both radically different from the now ubiquitous television and hand-held social media. Whether the Third Reich could have prevented a more subtle Jewish sourced ‘march through their media institutions’, beamed from across borders–that is, kept themselves free from a Jewish inspired Cultural Marxism that took over the remainder of Europe and America.

I’m not talking about the generation that fought in the war, but speculate about a time after Hitler died (from natural causes). What about Germany’s later TV gen. Kids born after the war. Would they have turned out fat and mind lazy like American ‘boomers’ and their kids? Could Germans have resisted Jewish media influence beamed from France and England? Obviously without the American occupation, they could have fended off much direct Anglo-American-Jewish influence. Certainly the Holohoax lie would never have been promulgated had Germany won. At least to the extent the lie has now become ‘truth’.

Compare with other Western ‘enemies’. Russia is certainly under attack from the West, and in this I can’t speak to Russian media, because I don’t know much about it. We know that lately the West is sanctioning Russian news sources–trying to shut down an important source of information going up against the ‘rules based order’.

For its part, China had the foresight to maintain control over their entire media infrastructure, not allowing any Jewish influence. Demanding a level of morality, something unknown within the degenerate Jewish dominated Western media. Of course Western infiltration of Chinese media was difficult from the get-go, due to China’s geographic location along with language difficulties. Both not really an issue in Europe.

From a strictly cultural standpoint, the key is to keep Jews out of both education and media. Why? Because in ‘education’ Jews understand the power of the lie, coupled with the credulity of an edumacated youth (now heavily women and minority); and in media/entertainment Jews recognize the moral weakness of a white folk who have abandoned discipline for ‘freedom’ (meaning mostly sexual oriented pleasure and gluttony).

Could a Hitlerian Germany have avoided this over the long term?

Any of you Nazi fucks who insult Cathy Young will be hunted down by the Mossad

You dont have to be the most important and influential historian of the millennia to conclude Adolph was right. Just take a trip to Germany and observe :

//the deplorable condition of many cities
//the slovenly dress of the population
//the trash from the Turd World
//high levels of crime
//the dozens of languages you hear in the street
//the skyrocketing costs of supporting the parasites from every part of the world

Oh, and the billions paid to the Joos for reparations. Don Corleone was right ! Lawyers with pen and paper (and calculators) can steal more than a crew with guns.

There is no doubt in my mind that Adolph would have nipped all this in the bud. Germans who fought in the war (and most are now thankfully dead), who fled the country and returned decades later for a last visit were horrified at the overall filth of the place.

Well, on second thoughts, save the airfare and conduct the same observations and investigations on your own city in the other countries of the West.

Do you need a Phd in sanitation to know thhe difference between filth and cleanliness ?

Hitler did not threaten the West. Not even England. Germany was part of the West.

This is why conservatives like Dillon are completely worthless. They will always choose drag queens as the “lesser evil� over what would be viewed as “far right� governance.

I was not aware who Seth Dillon was, other than his being a Republican party grifter. Apparently he is a Jew. My comment above can be disregarded, since his motives come from his Jewishness rather than his conservativeness.

This is an especially important discussion to have at this moment when the poisonous legacy of that senseless war imperils us at home as perhaps never before.

Washington’s cautions in his Farewell Address are well known. Thomas Jefferson, who had spent much time in Europe, also said, “For years we have been looking as spectators on our brethren in Europe, afflicted by all those evils which necessarily follow an abandonment of the moral rules which bind men and nations together. Connected with them in friendship and commerce, we have happily so far kept aloof from their calamitous conflicts, by a steady observance of justice towards all, by much forbearance and multiplied sacrifices… While we regret the miseries in which we see others involved let us bow with gratitude to that kind Providence which, inspiring with wisdom and moderation our late legislative councils while paced under the urgency of the greatest wrongs, guarded us from hastily entering into the sanguinary contest, and left us only to look on and to pity its ravages.â€�

Sadly this wisdom was abandoned in the pursuit of global hegemony, with FDR doing everything he could behind the scenes to provoke a second European war and then involve his country in it. The historian Murray Rothbard succinctly described the far-reaching consequences of his scheming, “Our entry into World War II was the crucial act in foisting a permanent militarization upon the economy and society, in bringing to the country a permanent garrison state, an overweening military-industrial complex, a permanent system of conscription. It was the crucial act in expanding the United States from a republic into an Empire, and in spreading that Empire throughout the world, replacing the sagging British Empire in the process. It was the crucial act in creating a Mixed Economy run by Big Government, a system of State-Monopoly-Capitalism run by the central government in collaboration with Big Business and Big Unionism. It was the crucial act in elevating Presidential power, particularly in foreign affairs, to the role of single most despotic person in the history of the world. And, finally, World War II is the last war-myth left, the myth that the Old Left clings to in pure desperation: the myth that here, at least, was a good war, here was a war in which America was in the right. World War II is the war thrown into our faces by the war-making Establishment, as it tries, in each war that we face, to wrap itself in the mantle of good and righteous World War II.�

Yeah, those freakish eternal victims actually equate getting jerked off as torture.

Now the 2 million or so German women, even little girls, probably little boys as well raped by the (((good guys))) weren’t tortured, some women raped after (((multiple good guys))), completely destroyed for life, but somehow we are supposed to weep for these totally made up masturbation machines. Shit, I would have loved one of those in my teen years from about 14-18.

It looks like the wrong side won the war.

Europa the last battle.net go watch it and decide for yourself …

The jewish “holocaustâ€� is a total fabrication. … Knowledge of this is critical to breaking the guilt complex that pervades over European whites who feel guilt and shame over the “holocaustâ€�.

What the “Holocaust Myth” — The Great Lie — has done to humanity is beyond apprehension and goes much further than creating a guilt complex in European whites. We can’t really fathom what the Lie has done to all of us. With The Great Lie, the Jews — The Great Destroyers — have wrecked the fabric of society itself. The Great Lie has warped our institutions, our culture, and even personal identity: its repercussions warp and distort every aspect of life.

Think about our kids’ education, for example (even here in Brazil!): they are sent to school to be versed in The Great Lie. The entire educational system has been built around the Lie and there is nothing that escapes it: textbooks, lectures, Holocaust remembrance days, forced Anne Frank readings — all disgusting Jew Deception.

And what are we supposed to tell our kids? If we tell them the truth and they repeat it in class they will be ostracized by their peers and may be even expelled from school for wrongthink. They will have wasted at least 15 years of their lives and will have to relearn everything once they get out of the Jew-controlled educational system, if they want to learn the truth and not live like a zombie.

The Lie is part and parcel of our political system: no one who rejects the Lie in public will get anywhere near power. Instead, truth-seekers will get jail time because the Lie is supported by our legislation. “Holocaust Denial” will put you in prison in many countries today, which is so preposterous that it makes you want to vomit. All our politicians must Repeat the Lie, which means all our leaders are our enemies, nothing less. That’s what the Jews have accomplished: they have turned our leaders into our enemies.

The Great Lie goes much further. Below the more tab I’ll put up a chatbot analysis of some areas which The Great Holocaust Lie has warped, if not wrecked such as: Education, Politics and Governance, Media, Cultural Identity, Social Relationships and Trust, Economic Implications, Psychological and Emotional Health, Religion and Spirituality, Technological Control, Philosophical and Intellectual Stagnation, Historical Narratives, Science and Rationality, Existential and Cosmic Questions, Resistance Movements, Global Implications — just a few to start off with.

over footage of the liberation of Auschwitz – footage gleaned from the magnificent award-winning WWII documentary Band of Brothers.

The concentration camp shown in this TV show was apparently Kaufering, which is not even alleged to be a Reinhard “death camp” in official Holocaust propaganda. Even according to mainstream holocaust history, the deaths at this particular camp were said to be from disease, starvation (after logistics had broken down due to allied bombing), and “death marches.” A “death march” is what holocaust propaganda calls camp administrators attempting to move camp inmates to a different location where they wouldn’t die from disease and starvation like the previously mentioned prisoners. Such an evacuation of prisoners belies the narrative of an organized extermination campaign, so these evacuations have been retconned by holocaust propagandists as “death marches,” wherein evil Nazis decided to spend their remaining time at the end of the war, and what little supplies they had left, forcing Jews to march to death just for shits and giggles, out of pure sadism (rather than just shooting them and dumping them in a pit, as one would expect had they wanted to kill all of these prisoners).

“Finally, Young takes Cooper to task for claiming that the Nazi occupation of France was preferable to the cultural degeneracy which has taken over much of the West these days…�

The Nazis wanted to preserve and protect Europe’s unique culture and cultural treasures. Every attempt was made to avoid destroying buildings and art in their defense of Europe’s borders. Germans believed—correctly—that they were preserving Europe from American and Soviet invading barbarians. Alas, they lost and we see the results today of their having been overrun.

“What Young doesn’t understand is that the degeneracy exemplified by the Olympics and mass-third-world immigration are threatening to take down all of Western civilization.�

Oh, she understands that alright. Taking down European civilization is the very point. Undermining the Soul of the Olympics is an end-zone victory dance by an African savage (African savages have proven useful to the Semite conquerers, first as MPs during the Nuremberg Farce and now as usurpers of America’s and Europe’s entertainment and sports industries.)

“Drag queening the Olympics is anti-Christian, and quite possibly anti-white as well.�

You’re being far too fair-minded. Drag queening the Olympics erases the original Olympic spirit, which too, is their intention.

They Hate European civilization because they are Semites. Their attitude is no different than that of a follower of Islam who, when questioned, states their preference for and belief in the ultimate victory of Sharia Law. Jews and Muslims are opposite sides of the same coin.

Jews and Muslims are opposite sides of the same coin.

Jews and Muslims are opposite sides of the same coin.

Jews and Muslims are opposite sides of the same coin.

Both are fanatical haters of Western values, history and culture. Neither can function in Europe so Europe must be destroyed.

It is not Jews but Poles, Danes, Norwegians and other assorted Europeans who should be offended by this Cooper the Historian.

You’re wasting your time.

The TUR comments are overrun with retarded nazi cunts.

If you’re not blaming every single problem in world history on the ‘jew’, you might as well be shouting into the void.

It’s hard to break indoctrination conditioning that began as a toddler. The young child’s super ego is his parents. Later, for many people, it is “God” or some equivalent. Our people have a Jewish god in their heads, which had served the Jews extraordinarily well. But that’s not all. There’s also the conditioned fear of everlasting torture by fire if you mentally digress from the narrative. Many not only have an ever present Jewish god inserted in their minds, they also have “the Devil” placed there. This is enough to drive people insane. They certainly cannot think rationally with all of these artificial conflicts (and irrational ideologies) consuming their thought processes.

The cumulative effects of this and other evident Jewish mind control have brought us to the brink of extinction.

(Wish I could figure out how to use the buttons without having to make a comment. No log in option for Agree button.)

(Also off topic, “Routh.” This is a prominent Jewish name where I have lived. I think it’s one of those German names that can go both ways. Which is it, for the latest would-be assassin?)

Cooper also describes his civil interactions with Jewish listeners.

That was the most off-putting part of the entire Carlson-Cooper interview. Goyim who have to grovel at the feet of the child ritual sacrificers because they have friends who are “good Jews” are little more than Shabbos Goyim. Shame on Cooper, instead he should have been talking about the deliberate and historically consistent mass murder of Palestinian children going on as he was participating in the interval.

We must await the verdict on Tucker Carlson before prematurely celebrating one single interview. Hopefully, it won’t be the end of his late life career as an independent voice.

He must be extremely careful as to not rile up his enemies…

And now, my Christian “take” on the situation:

Video Link

I believe that some day The Man is going to come around. And when he does, there will be a lot of clergy persons (especially the evangelical Zionists), politicians, bankers, kings, queens, armaments manufacturers, military leaders and many others who will be asked to account for their actions.

Thank you.

DEFINITELY

America, is like Rhodesia turning into Zimbabwe.

This recent Gemma O’Doherty / EM Jones interview is quite fascinating due to the kerfuffle the erupts between the two after Gemma shows her disapproval of Candice Owens suddenly becoming an acceptable spokesperson for the Catholic Church.

At about 14 min EMJ starts talking about how the Catholic Negress Owens has fallen “in love” with a white boy and converted and how everyone should be happy for their mulatto spawn.

Gemma is having nothing of it.

https://old.bitchute.com/video/HrAx2zDBsBNT/

To me it was fascinating listening to EMJ say that since he is a product of Irish miscegenation with a German, that therefor Owens and her mulatto children should be accepted as “Americans” without reservation. This is a very American viewpoint.

Gemma, an Irish patriot who has a fundamental understanding of how “Europe” is actually a patchwork of ethnicities that need to be protected from Kalergi style attacks on their blood line.

Meanwhile EMJ argues that the Catholic Church in universalist (aka globalist, LOL) and must accept all races and ethnic groups with open arms.

Watching the video, I can understand why Hitler and the NSDAP were forced to round up many Catholic Priests in order to prevent them from undermining the blood lines of the German people.

A good summary, except that #3 is fraught with difficulties, as the anti-Christian and pro-pagan bent of the Nazis was a critical error on their part. European and White culture is inherently tied to the Christian worldview, and trying to eradicate it from the West is tantamount to eradicating the West itself. Hitler should have framed the Nazi position as pro-Christian, and could have offered it as an obvious counterpoint to the jewish Bolsheviks, and a more subtle counterpoint to the jewish American capitalists/deists – although arguing the latter is more difficult as many falsely believe that America has always been a Christian nation. Hitler recognized that the West was in freefall, and he passionately wished to save it, but he erred in embracing paganism.

Your take is 100% correct, but this is a tough crowd for the message. For whatever reason, many Unz readers believe that rejecting Christianity is somehow sticking it to the jews, and NOT what the jews most desperately desire.

And don’t forget about Josef Mengele’s infamous Wall of Eyes. LOL

How come those on the right, those white nationalists don’t defend Neville Chamberlain? He didn’t want to fight Hitler. His whole deal was to let Germany expand eastwards until Hitler satisfied himself with a war against Soviet Union. That was why he did nothing to stop Hitler. That is the REAL reason.

So why did Chamberlain extend unilateral security guarantees to Poland without demanding as a precondition some type of agreement with Germany over the Danzig?

If I may be allowed to take a stab at answering my own question: it’s because, ultimately, Chamberlain was controlled by the (((same people))) who controlled Churchill — and they wanted a war with Germany. Lib/Lab/Con is just the British version of our own Zionist Uniparty.

Poland brutalized Germans living there first and actively wanted war and then got their azz kicked which allowed Churchill to do his work starting WW3 on behalf of the Rothschilds–his Jewish financiers and Masters–he destroyed Britain and Western Civilization as his follow up to his Gallipoli disgrace

Whoops! I just threw away my pager.

Why did the Great Defender of European culture had to brutalize Poland.

First, “Poland” was a fake state, so it needed to be dismantled. Second, polacks are belligerent retards, and they need to be severely beaten into submission every once in a while so that they remember their place. They are quick to forget.

Gemma is no brain trust and was obnoxious. Was she drinking? She might be incandescent with frustration over the insane destruction of Ireland, and the daily news about Irish being brutalized in their own land, but had the Irish not sold their souls to the almighty dollar and abandoned their faith and become slaves of the AZE they no doubt wouldn’t have opened themselves up to be a bitch of the (((West))).

The Irish were ‘turned out’ and became a bitch for Google.* No doubt Irish insecurity was partly to blame. (“We’re not backward superstitious Papists, we’re the ‘Celtic Tiger’!�).

*Nb: tech and the digital revolution was simply an advanced tool for AZE’s to brainwash, propagandize, and monitor the population. The tech boom really didn’t come from people buying what tech was peddling, but largely from the trillions of DOD and “black budget� dollars being pushed into it. I can tell you stories of DARPA sending multi-million-dollar checks to tech startups with only 2 employees and claims that make Theranos look like they were underselling their product.

Cathy Jung’s real name?

Ekaterina Katysheva

Such gratitude. We help save them from the Nazis, along with Russia, whose people did most of the fighting and dying. Despite that, they hate the descendants of WWII vets here and want to destroy our civilization and legacy. And they hate them in Russia even worse! Imagine if the Jews had a legitimate beef with us!

Maybe you should ask the Poles?

They held vast territories of German land. They refused to negotiate on the German Free City of Danzig. They pursued an anti German policy within its own borders. Stealing land, mistreating civilians, murder. On top of that the Polish Government threatened war if Germany were to pursue the matter any further.

So Hitler appealed to England to help solve these issues. They gave him the roundabout, pretending to offer assistance, while telling the Poles to remain stiff behind his back.

Finally, Germany did the only thing she could do in these circumstances: use force.

So why did Chamberlain extend unilateral security guarantees to Poland without demanding as a precondition some type of agreement with Germany over the Danzig?

The answer to your question can be found below, read the entire source. Everything is there. All questions are answered. Nothing is left out.

“…The difference rested on the fact that the Chamberlain group hoped to permit Britain to escape from the necessity of fighting Germany by getting Russia to fight Germany. The Chamberlain group did not share the Milner Group’s naive belief in the possibility of three great power blocs standing side by side in peace. Lacking that belief, they preferred a German-Russian war to a British-German war. And, having that preference, they differed from the Milner Group in their willingness to accept the partition of Poland by Germany. The Milner Group would have yielded parts of Poland to Germany if done by fair negotiation. The Chamberlain group was quite prepared to liquidate Poland entirely, if it could be presented to the British people in terms which they would accept without demanding war.

…The unilateral guarantee to Poland given by Chamberlain on 31 March 1939 was also a reflection of what he believed the voters wanted. He had no intention of ever fulfilling the guarantee if it could possibly be evaded and, for this reason, refused the Polish requests for a small rearmament loan and to open immediate staff discussions to implement the guarantee. The Milner Group, less susceptible to public opinion, did not want the guarantee to Poland at all. As a result, the guarantee was worded to cover Polish “independenceâ€� and not her “territorial integrity.â€� This was interpreted by the leading article of The Times for 1 April to leave the way open to territorial revision without revoking the guarantee. This interpretation was accepted by Chamberlain in Commons on 3 April. Apparently the government believed that it was making no real commitment because, if war broke out in eastern Europe, British public opinion would force the government to declare war on Germany, no matter what the government itself wanted, and regardless whether the guarantee existed or not. On the other hand, a guarantee to Poland might deter Hitler from precipitating a war and give the government time to persuade the Polish government to yield the Corridor to Germany. If the Poles could not be persuaded, or if Germany marched, the fat was in the fire anyway; if the Poles could be persuaded to yield, the guarantee was so worded that Britain could not act under it to prevent such yielding. This was to block any possibility that British public opinion might refuse to accept a Polish Munich. That this line of thought was not far distant from British government circles is indicated by a Reuters news dispatch released on the same day that Chamberlain gave the guarantee to Poland. This dispatch indicated that, under cover of the guarantee, Britian would put pressure on Poland to make substantial concessions to Hitler through negotiations. According to Hugh Dalton, Labour M.P., speaking in Commons on 3 April, this dispatch was inspired by the government and was issued through either the Foreign Office, Sir Horace Wilson, John Simon, or Samuel Hoare. Three of these four were of the Milner Group, the fourth being the personal agent of Chamberlain. Dalton’s charge was not denied by any government spokesman, Hoare contenting himself with a request to Dalton “to justify that statement.â€� Another M.P. of Churchill’s group suggested that Geoffrey Dawson was the source, but Dalton rejected this…”

https://web.archive.org/web/20221029210347/http://www.yamaguchy.com/library/quigley/anglo_12b.html
http://www.carrollquigley.net/books.htm

On the afternoon of March 31, Chamberlain read a statement in the House of Commons. He first said, at great length, that the British government believed every dispute could be negotiated. In the meanwhile, if Polish independence were threatened and Poland resisted with all her forces, Britain would do all in her power to help Poland, and France would do likewise.

However, this was not the end of appeasement. The British guarantee of Polish independence was meant to deter Hitler from further aggression and persuade him to obtain what he wanted from Poland by negotiation. On April 1, (All Fools’ Day),Geoffrey Dawson (1874-1944), the editor of the London Times, published an editorial saying the guarantee did not apply to Polish frontiers, but to Polish independence. In his diary, he noted that Halifax and Chamberlain agreed “this was about right.”

https://acienciala.ku.edu/hist557/lect16.htm

More sources here:

Don’t except the enemy’s terminology. “Denial” implies that the Germans did nothing to the Jews. Skepticism, revisionism, etc. would be better. Normies may accept that Hitler killed only 1 million Jews (which he probably did even if he didn’t set out to do so) rather than 6. The Powers That Be will shriek and point, but it will be a win.

It takes approximately 100 years for generational biases to be bred out of historical texts. It is only then that the true nature of history and analysis can take place.
The statement: “History being written by the winners� is correct. However, the “winners� eventually die off and then (and only then) history can be corrected and be critiqued with the TRUTH finally being revealed and stated for the REAL historical record.
The “holocaust� fable (tale) is already losing its “sting� being less relevant in today’s day and age. From scientific and logistical standpoints, NONE of the claims made by so-called “holocaust� survivors is valid.
The latest jewish “stunt� is to declare that descendants of “holocaust� survivors, are themselves “damaged� and worthy of receiving shekels as “reparations�. It’s called “holocaust transference syndrome� and is already being touted as the next “wave� of “holocaust� survivors eligible for shekels.
More and more people are realizing that the seeds of WW2 were sown in WW1 with the excesses of the Wiemar Republic which was fueled by financial demands from the “victors� (jews) which impoverished Germany and made Germany the scapegoat.
Germany’s rise from the ashes was made possible by German ingenuity and talent, something the jews could not stand, jews not being “on top�. Germany’s economic recovery from the great depression was much faster than the rest of the western world thereby necessitating another “world war� to put Germany in its place.
Let’s not forget the criminalization of those who see through the falsehoods and lies of “holocaustianity�. From jewish “freak shows� known as “holocaust museums� to outright incarceration of “those who do not believe� and do not bow down to this new “religion� the “tribe� is grasping at straws attempting to keep the holocaust fable alive by prosecuting “non-believers�.
Rather than living within societies and doing the best to promote domestic civility, the “tribe� just cannot work within societies but has to foment hate and discontent wherever they go, calling it “tikkun olam�.
Keep overreaching, jews…Eventually societies “wake up� and realize what needs to be done.
The trouble with jews is that they always overreach and end up being marginalized, shunned, and even expelled.

I lived in Deutschland for 15 years. Sadly, pretty much everything you say here is true. However, the country still isn’t as bad off as the US or Britain.

How could anyone expect Christians to actually stand up for anything when their religion specifically teaches that their role (specifically for men) is to sacrifice themselves in every way like Jesus did?

It’s a death cult.

Excellent comment.

Once the ((thing)) behind the curtain is recognized and understood, the sordid past of The West and all that it entails, come into focus.

Modern ‘Christianity’ has been turned into an instrument of our destruction. Deep down in my gut, I suspect that’s not exactly what Jesus of Nazareth intended, but here we are …

That’s actually kind of a myth. Hitler never really embraced paganism. Some of his followers — such as Heinrich Himmler — did, but Hitler himself did not. Of course, he also kept the established churches in Germany at arm’s length; but he never tried to forbid them. As long as they stayed clear of politics, he was content to leave them alone.

By the way, at least one of Hitler’s main, early followers, Alfred Rosenberg, wrote a book on the subject of Christianity, called The Myth of the Twentieth Century, where he tried to rehabilitate the religion by delinking it from Jehova and the Jews. His was more of a Gnostic/Marcionite take on Jesus’ theology. Officially, Hitler declined to endorse the book (aware of the controversy it would cause among the German churches), but he was also happy to let Rosenberg publish it, so make of that what you will.

Spot on, thank you. I’ve read minor references how the Reformation and the Anglo-Saxon admiration of the Jews led to the growth of the power of global Jewry. Any suggestions to books that focus on the subject in more detail?

I criticized Cooper because I didn’t think he went far enough in the original interview.
— I want public persons like Cooper & Carlson to be more courageous than I am willing to be.

The response to the “mob” that Cooper posted on his blog the next day was even more off-putting: My response to the Mob was my first exposure to Cooper’s blog & prolix style. It opened with extensive ‘readings’ from the execrable Timothy Snyder and two other sources that purported to describe in gory detail how Germans killed Jews.

It left me with the impression that Cooper was trying his darnedest to play on raw emotion to re-ingratiate himself with the same entity that he had rationally criticized the day before. Like a shoplifter caught with the goods and trying to undo the crime by sneaking back the half-eaten candy bar, Cooper tried to put the holocaust back in the Golden Monstrance of the Religion of the 21st Century.

While nibbling at the margins of the Sacred Narrative, for example, by de-throning Churchill, is a good start (anonymous @ #6. approached the situation from a larger perspective, even broader than my own), it’s not enough to introduce this or that contradiction of an element or two of the accepted false narrative. The framework, the blueprint of the dogmatized version has to be erased from mind, rejected as a starting point; truly ‘invert the narrative:’ zionists started the wars in pursuit of the agenda of zionism, just as surely as neocons/zionists/Israel-firsters schemed 9/11 in pursuit of the zionist agenda.

In order for white Europeans to finally escape the hole they have dug for themselves, they must reevaluate the Second World War.

This is now becoming crystal clear. But of course getting multi-generation brainwashed America to reconsider what they have been thoroughly programmed with is the trick especially when the propagandists immediately respond with the tried and true “holocaust denier” accusation.

But why destroy the Polish state instead of just annexing the disputed territories?
And why brutalize, why murder wholesale?
Are Poles non-white?

Either way, it was still not Germany’s fault. You can always quibble over whether Chamberlain or Churchill was the worse of the two, similar to the way that (some) contemporary people fret over whether Lib, Lab or Con wins the next election, or over whether the Ds or the Rs are the ‘lesser of the two evils,’ but none of that will ever change the central fact that the Anglo-Saxon countries are fully under the control of a hostile force that ultimately seeks the destruction of the White race. The bottom line is that the war could have been avoided entirely if London (and Washington?) had never intervened at all.

The Great Defender tried to avoid war with Poland. The Allies forced his hand. https://counter-currents.com/2023/12/hitler-the-peacemaker-part-1/

If he intended other than what has taken place then obviously he has no power to make it otherwise. What exactly is “modern Christianity”? The Christianity that people followed only a century or so after it was first made the official Roman religion would likely have been seen in the same light. Christianity has morphed over and over again since. The can keeps getting kicked down the road.

Lmao Catholics are our biggest allies. It’s the nonconformist Protestants who actually believe in “God’s Word� (God’s Turd) who are our enemies, like Andrew Torba. The Christian Bible is full of Jew Hate. It’s a nazi tome. Sola Scriputa commands them to kill the Jew. They won’t. The Mossad will hunt them all down

Jeebus was a moron, that’s why White Nationalists and Jews are natural allies

Western debauchery and degeneracy, in which the ((Frankfurt School)) teaching found ready western acceptance, may well destroy the west altogether.
But it isn’t all one-way traffic.
No doubt to western pederasts’ (incl on UR) fury, Georgia is following her northern neighbour’s lead in a new law “On The Protection Of Family Values And Minors”, probably against the western oriented female president.
One statement from linked review —
“Ignoring the repeated protests of the largest part of the population of Georgia demonstrates disrespect for the nation’s core values and is a clear attempt to cause moral damage.”

https://orthochristian.com/163456.html

It has been reported more than a few times on Great Satan ongoing attempts to undermine Georgia (as with Ukraine, Lebanon many others) with mass bloodshed outcomes we see anywhere it gets a foothold.
LGBT is one of the major fields of contention.
Choose your side.

If you’re not blaming every single problem in world history on the ‘jew’, you might as well be shouting into the void.

If you’re not excusing every single Jew crime in world history, the Nose will dog you and void into your bouche. Sooner or later you will cave, turning into yet another cowering Bibian rump-swab…like braindead goyim boyo Shmuley von Shlomo Sissystein (aka SomeDude), hasbara shill.

How are them thar 30 pieces of shekels, Homey?

We must resist to accept Jewish lies.

Not sure that sentence came out as you meant it. I’ll assume you suggest that we refuse to accept Jewish lies. I’ll agree, and go a bit farther: how about we refuse to accept lies, period. Regardless of their source.

Hitler was a Communist puppet who’s job was to kill young white men in Europe, and he did an excellent job.

THANKS

“Don’t except the enemy’s terminology.”

I think you mean “accept,” not “except.”

(1) Hit the “Reply” button.

(2) Type in any character

(3) Hit Enter, that is, post it.

(4) Hit “Click to Edit” and erase it.

(5) Now save the empty comment.

I.E. Delete any nonsensical comment; it could be a single character.

Now your buttons will work.

Wow one of the best comments I have read in a decade of UR. Thank you could not agree more. I would have simply pressed “agreed” except I’m not permitted to that currently

The bottom line is that the war could have been avoided entirely if London (and Washington?) had never intervened at all.

War could have been avoided if Germany had kicked out the Rothchilds and their associates in the 17th Century, instead of nurturing them and allowing them to grow inside of them like a tumor.

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Wow the observable escalation of hostility toward Jews since October 7th, even in the pages of UR where it has lived on for many, many years is beyond my initial imaginings on October 8th. Thank you BiBi and the entire Likud! You must certainly go down in history as having done more to refocus the the Jewish Question than anyone before or after you.

Very well said. Thank you.

I was raised Catholic, and even though I had abandoned the idiotic religion decades ago, it still happens that the fear of being punished -by the “merciful” God – for my apostasy overpowers me. Not surprisingly, when my only daughter passed away in an accident as early as in 2001 (not 9/11), I couldn’t stop regarding the tragedy as punishment.

The Russian fumbling around Kiev tends to prove that 1940 France Profound saw the Wehrmacht as a friend.

“Neville Chamberlain is your guy. Don’t be fooled by those weak photos with Hitler. ”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain

‘The Road Less Traveled’ , a book about the 1916 peace proposals, written by Philip Zelikow

Did 9-11/Israeli Yid Zelikow indicate Yid in US and England wanted war?

5ds

Dave Smith is a great bloke. HIs analysis of Israel’s atrocities is absolutely spot on.

Its noticeable that even a Christian site has to be run by a Jew to ensure its conformity

I see you’re still at it threatening people. Maybe the families of the victims of Israeli murders from say their attack on the USS Liberty and 9/11 should hunt them down. Sound good to you? You’re a blowhard and a fool

That’s because Jews will attack and purge anything political online that isn’t owned by Jews. Zerohedge is run by a Bulgarian Jew.
moon of Alabama is run by a German Jew.
Jews own the internet

The Hitler defenders have a hard time with Poland.

They like to view him as a liberator…..unless you are Polish…..or Slavic……or a Christian minority……or a democrat……or a union leader…..and the list goes on.

One of the first things the Nazis did was execute thousands of Polish intellectuals which included priests:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligenzaktion

They had drawn up that list in the 1930s.

The Nazis wanted to erase Poland and enslave the population.

They had already started kidnapping Germanic looking children to give to German families.

I’ve had to source that a few times for Hitler defenders because they didn’t want to believe it was true. I guess they assumed he drew a moral line at kidnapping children.

Hitler could have attacked the USSR without going through Poland. His demand of a Danzig corridor was a load of bullshit given that his last offer was made after he had secretly agreed to split the country with a Communist dictator.

Some liberator. Watch me kill Poles and hand half the country to the USSR.

Hitler was a meth head that ramped up White guilt in the West to 11. Few here consider the possibility that Hitler is a major cause of our problems.

suffering the same fate as Ukrainians in 1932-1933.

Actually, the Ukrainians were suffering from 1919 when Germany, Austria and Hungary were partitioned and large chunks handed to the Bolsheviks during the ongoing Russian civil war. Thousands joined the White Russians to fight the Reds until the end in 1922, when pogroms against those unable to escape West began. Part of that was, what Putin refers to as Lenin’s mistake – adding Russian territories to the new Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. The Holomodor was just another “event” along the way, albeit a huge one.

King James Version New Testament

Apostle Paul to Titus

Titus 1:13-16

13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

https://gab.com/skitzorat/posts/113131446571252200

Hitler could have attacked East to begin and made Ukraine a member state of the German empire. He would simultaneously have the best German units while depriving the USSR of their Ukrainian units.

That would have easily destroyed the USSR.

The British conservatives in fact wanted him to attack the USSR. The same was true for his generals. They wanted a slow expansion East that would culminate in a final battle against Communism.

But Mr. Mustache wanted revenge over WW1. Having a massive German empire wasn’t enough. He wanted to turn Poland into farmland and enslave the inhabitants. He didn’t at all care that Poland was led by an anti-Communist. Well we now have to live with the curse of his greed and pettiness.

Part of that was, what Putin refers to as Lenin’s mistake – adding Russian territories to the new Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.

Putin speaks of Russia as if it existed then. It may be an interchangeable term in some contexts but technically the Russian Empire ended in 1917. The so-called Soviet Republics were administrative units. They had no ability to govern themselves and of course they could not leave. Moscow picked their leaders and could overrule any local decision. It was a centralized Communist dictatorship that pretended to be an alliance of countries.

Read some real history ffs. Poland was massacring ethnic Germans and had ordered full mobilization to attack Germany. The targets in Warsaw were military targets, many in civilian areas. Germany began to re-build Warsaw. https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/warsaw/wgr00.html It was the Soviets who massacred the Poles.
Operation Wilfred https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/overrunning-norway/ meant invading Denmark to get to Norway. I met Danes who were alive at the time of the occupation who said, in the big scheme of things, it was more like a bigger police force. Would it have been okay for the Brits to have invaded Norway, which they tried unsuccessfully?
The Germans got involved in the Balkans to bail out Italy. Hitler begged Mussolini not to go there, as it would give the Soviets an excuse to get involved. AJP Taylor noted in his The Origins of the Second World War that the war spread because of Allied provocations.
WWII was, as with WWI, a banker war.
https://odysee.com/@Operation_G:b/A.H---Why-They-Hate-Germany:b

Thanks for your comment here. I will keep an open mind on this topic. Perhaps it would be better to focus on the National Socialism, rather than Hitler per se. Father Denis Fahey condemned both communism and Nazism insofar as they both rejected the supernatural messiah of Christ, and instead pursued a naturalistic paradise.

If this great fiction is still troubling you, perhaps you should listen to little voice telling you that something is seriously wrong. You still have time to return.

The modern non-mainstream Right is plagued by a ton of really dumb ideas. But the dumbest among them by far is the idea of tying itself to the broken chariot of German imperialism, and moreover, to the incarnation of German imperialism, that was led by card-carrying Socialists.

It is not historically sound, but that is the least of its problems. Actually, had the revisionist histories of WWII been completely true, and not a bunch of biased bullshit, the idea still would have been terrible.

See, it cannot work at all without positing the axiom that the white English-speaking nations must serve the greater moral good, explicitly at the expense of their material interests. Without it, Cooper’s arguments, laid out in this article, and others like them, cannot fly at all.

Surprise – this is the exact thing that the lefties preach. So, why should you undertake the risk of opposing them, if, even in case of success, you’re still forever guilty for the actions of your ancestors, and still branded as evil the moment you consider your own gain?

Her real name is: Yekaterina Jung. Hearing it speak, she sounds like a typical USian female. Dumber than stale dog shit, ummms, aaahs.

“Born in Moscow to a Jewish family, Ekaterina Jung was 17 when her family emigrated to the United States in 1980.�

What would VDH reply to this information? Any thoughts? Is he compromised as well?

We hear how the Germans were brilliant and technologically advanced in World War II, yet they couldn’t figure out how to kill all the Jews they arrested, resulting in millions of holocaust survivors. Stalin was smarter and knew that shooting people kills them. The point of my sarcasm is that logic proves the Jews were placed in labor camps like other troublesome minorities, political opponents, terrorists, and POWs, they were not “death camps” with hospitals and rec facilities. The guards at these labor camps had plenty of bullets to kill everyone before Allied troops arrived, but they just opened the gates and fled.

Hitler hoped for an alliance with Poland to fight the Soviets. But Poland was ruled by an arrogant dictator who bullied Lithuania to cede one-third its territory and grabbed a chunk of Czechoslovakia.
Then he foolishly allied with the French and British who did nothing to help defend Poland and later gave it to the Soviets because Churchill and Roosevelt wanted to destroy Germany rather than seek a surrender in early 1944 that would have saved Poland and eastern Europe.

In the West, ‘racism’ means not supporting Jewish Supremacism. That is ‘anti-semtic’ or ‘racist’.

It doesn’t mean treating Jews and Palestinians equally. Calling for equal justice is ‘genocidal’.

It’s so messed up.

🚨🇮🇱 Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) DESTROYS historically illiterate Zionists who LIED about Israel’s creation. pic.twitter.com/2ZIQbFB7qp

— Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸 (@jacksonhinklle) September 18, 2024

Very good! Excellent! May I ,

A few interesting videos on the subject –

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If German civilians get little to no empathy from white Americans – many of them of German extraction themselves… The German civilians who were immolated in Dresden, and the spittle-flecked rage one receives for bringing up this unconscionable war crime, represent a striking counterexample to that claim.

Thanks for the comment — many things to reflect upon. I would add this: German civilians get little to no empathy from… German civilians! Yes, it seems absurd, but the Germans themselves have little to no empathy for their own brethren who were slaughtered during the war by the likes of Jew-controlled Churchill or outright Jew Roosevelt. That’s how far the “false consciousness” goes.

I have seen this — felt this — first-hand on several occasions. Once, it happened when I was having dinner with a German couple who had lived in my country, Brazil, for many years. When the conversation veered into sensitive territory, the German per-emptively struck, talking about the horrors his own people inflicted on the Jews during the war.

After this self-immolation had gone on for a while, I couldn’t take it any longer and I asked him about Dresden. Well, the conversation went sour after that: it was as if I had planted a smoke bomb (or worse) at the dinner party. Here I am, a Brazilian with no skin in the game, I have to step in to present the case of slaughtered Germans to a German — and he basically doesn’t want to hear about it! Needless to say, I wasn’t invited to dine with them ever again.

This wasn’t the only case. I just recently had a German friend as a house guest for over a month here in Brazil, one of the most intelligent people I’ve ever met, and so I had time to chat with him for many many hours. I presented the German case again. I made him read a few Unz articles. Each time, he was really uncomfortable with what I had to say and wanted to change the conversation. And once he burst out: “but I have been to Dachau! I’ve seen it with my own eyes!” There was no way to make him budge: he still firmly believes in the villainy of his own people.

What we are dealing with is Jew mind control tactics that run so deep, are so widespread, so all-consuming, that it will take decades of complete de-programming to remove the existential guilt Germans still feel about the “Holocaust”: one of the most evil hoaxes — a real, devilish, multi-generational curse — ever perpetrated not only on the Germans, but also on the collective consciousness of all of humanity.

Heartbreaking. pic.twitter.com/vuuJhBoUeJ

— RAMZPAUL (@ramzpaul) September 18, 2024

How fast things change.

Fully agree.

Plus any other atrocities, such as Banderite Polka with Ukrainian Jews gets re-packaged as evidence of a genocide by Germans on Jews.

Cristia Freeland, Canadian PM (Canada’s most prominent barbarian) sics the RCMP on citizens when the truth burns her ears.

Ukrainians are treated like Jews in Canada.

No more liberals. Only gulliberals left.

Tucker Carlson just obliterated Lindsey Graham and then hit it out of the park with the 2nd Trump attack analysis.

I'm so glad Fox News was stupid enough to fire this guy. Unleashed Tucker is the best Tucker. pic.twitter.com/FR8UwMqeMA

— Clint Russell (@LibertyLockPod) September 18, 2024

Cannot comprehend the dialectic.
“Create an enemy and blame them for all YOUR misdeeds”.
Go back and play with your Johnson.

Zio-globo-homo Britain

Guess what they’ve put on the 4th plinth on Trafalgar Square… yep, you guessed it, plaster casts of the faces of 726 trans & non binary people…

But there’s no agenda, oh no… pic.twitter.com/HlfChjk2x4

— Adam Brooks AKA EssexPR 🇬🇧 (@EssexPR) September 18, 2024

What should one think and say about the picture of two halves with Hitler and his henchmen on the left and the Olympics drag queen on the right?

Neither is preferable to anyone that cares about humanity, both are symptoms of two sickening creeds, neither one should ever be excepted as the normality the mankind should be striving for.

The modern non-mainstream Right is plagued by a ton of really dumb ideas. But the dumbest among them by far is the idea of tying itself to the broken chariot of German imperialism, and moreover, to the incarnation of German imperialism, that was led by card-carrying Socialists.

One of the few things that Hitler did right was make his own decisions on the German economy. He didn’t listen to the conservatives of his time and their predictable submission to corporate interests over public good.

Germany would most likely be the world leading economy if Hitler stayed off meth and did not go on his Eastern European holiday .

The 1930s German economic miracle is a taboo for both sides. Liberals of course don’t want to give the Nazis credit for anything and our modern right doesn’t want to talk about how Hitler made massive public investments to turn their economy around. Hitler also ignored what should be described as pseudo-religious conservative beliefs on currency policy. Our modern right seems to view the market economy as ruled by gods that cannot be questioned. They seem to forget that the entire thing is man made and was not handed down by Moses.

So I’m not sure what you mean by card caring socialists. National Socialism was in many ways a trick play against socialism. It doesn’t submit the country to international socialists or at the time the Communists. Our doofus conservatives still haven’t figured that out. They still believe that a bit the o’l good time religion and government minimalism will fix any country. Admitting that public investment can work in the best interest of the country is a nightmare to them. They’d rather sell out to foreign interests.

It opened with extensive ‘readings’ from the execrable Timothy Snyder

What is your beef with Tim Snyder?

zionists started the wars in pursuit of the agenda of zionism,

Is this true though?

Hitler was a liar, a habitual psychopathic liar, he lied to the Austrians before the Anschluss, he lied to the Czechs in Munich, he lied to the Georgian thug, the man was lucky to start with because of these lies, but luckily for the people of Europe, the truth always outs.

If you think his saying that “England (should) remain strong—with all of its colonies intact—in order to thwart the great communist menace in the Soviet Union”, Baron has more than one London bridge to sell you.

White nationalist like to pretend they are pro European.

But in reality they are the opposite. They are Hitler larpers. A man who murdered tens of millions of Europeans. There is no excuse for this.

Its no surprise many of these are mutts living an ocean away disconnected from Europe by generations. Nothing against mutts its not your fault to mix, but you lose your identity and cant see things from a more European ethnic perspective.

What a lowly Eastern European to them? Nothing. Just focus on the Stalin. Never Hitler.
Or focus on the Holocaust just like the Jews. The two groups neo-Nazi and Askhenazi end up fuelling each other.

And remember Nazi Germany? Wouldnt harm a fly. Look over there its Churchill and the Brits, its Roosevelt, its Stalin, its Beck and the Poles.

Yes many parties in the war committed crimes and played their roles in messing Europe., The Jews pissed of many people. That doesnt mean Hitler and Nazi Germany were good. They were evil and mass murderous.

Some of the commentators are catching on in pointing this out.
Its a shame the divisions among white nationalists are already visible (favourably toward certain whites over others, the religious vs non religious debate, and such) . They alienate many actual Europeans (and other allies) with excessive larping for Shekelgruber.

Oh ye of little substance.

Your dwarf hero in the Kremlin praised Jewish values in a June speech. Did you see that article?
https://www.rt.com/russia/598704-putin-jewish-salvation-day/

Gosh it seems that the usual bloggers at Unz didn’t mention it.

Must be some type of oversight.

Blaming Jews at Unz sure seems to correlate with an equal propensity to ignore Putin’s Jewish connections.

Why would FDR want a war with Hitler’s Germany? What was in it for the American Republic? Why hasn’t any historian since 1945 ever pointed that out? Ever.

All we have for this nonsensical revelation is something not of second but a third hand quality, Jerzy Potocki saying that Bullitt told him about it.

Unless you can furnish a first hand evidence of FDR wanting war with Germany, Mr. Quinn, the Potocki’s claim is of zero historic value.

If this is the same Seth Dillon,

Sam Parker-ucas Gage🇺🇲 @SamParkerSenate
🧵>”Not everyone who claims to be fighting for Christianity is actually fighting for it.”

Correct. Some are actually fighting for jews and Israel. Like Seth Dillon.

✡ï¸� Here, Seth Dillon gatekeeps who can proclaim “Christ is King,” and when.
✡� He insinuates that Christians worship a jew, a common antichristian talking point. Christ is God.

Unable to copy part Dillon says he is Jew.

Yid make every effort to control all aspects of communication.

He denies that Jesus was a Jew so he can continue to say "Christ is King" while harboring hatred for Jews in his heart. Absent from his depraved perversion of Christianity is Paul's heart for unsaved Jews who have rejected their Messiah. https://t.co/zgoCuk43A8 pic.twitter.com/dr1sDQH1tW

— Seth Dillon (@SethDillon) July 7, 2024

World War II Must End!

NEVER AGAIN

Nation-wrecking Jew rats in JEWS ORGANIZED GLOBALLY(JOG) are using mass immigration as a demographic weapon to attack and destroy European Christian nations.

NEVER AGAIN should any White European Christian or White European Pagan or White European Spiritual Creature who finds the eternal or transcendent in the ineffable mystery of life ever listen to one more goddamn second of any evil and demonic Jew go on and on about what did or did not happen to the Jews before, during or after World War II.

PHUCK YOU, YOU EVIL UNGRATEFUL JEWS!

The evil and demonic JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire uses this rancid propaganda horseshit about this so-called “holocaust� to stifle any and all debates about too many topics such as the nation-wrecking mass immigration invasion, the millstone client state of Israel and other matters.

All the Jew sonofabitches are more than welcome to GET THE HELL out of all European Christian nations and stay the Hell out!

Stop all the “holocaust� horseshit propaganda and stop giving Israel all that loot!

The “holocaust� horseshit propaganda is designed to stifle criticism of the hostile Jew element in the evil and demonic JEW/WASP Ruling Class of the American Empire.

The evil and demonic diasporan Jews in JEWS ORGANIZED GLOBALLY(JOG) keep bringing up the so-called “holocaust� to justify the Jew-driven demographic attacks of mass legal immigration and mass illegal immigration on European Christian nations.

JEWS ORGANIZED GLOBALLY(JOG) is an evil gang of nation-wrecking rats and they are using mass immigration as a demographic weapon to attack and destroy White European Christian nations such as the USA, Germany, Italy, Ireland, Sweden, Canada, Australia, France…etc.

JEWS ORGANIZED GLOBALLY(JOG) is using mass immigration as a demographic weapon to bring on WHITE GENOCIDE in European Christian nations.

NATION-WRECKING JEW RATS USE “HOLOCAUST� HORSESHIT PROPAGANDA AS A RHETORICAL WEAPON TO ATTACK WHITE EUROPEAN CHRISTIANS.

END WORLD WAR II NOW!

NUKES FOR GERMANY, ITALY, JAPAN AND AUSTRALIA

AMERICAN EMPIRE OUT OF EUROPE AND ASIA NOW!

It’s long past time to put a fork in the entire Holocaust turkey and finally call it “done”. How long must anyone have to be constantly harangued and beaten over the head for something they were never responsible for? The gravy train is coming to a stop.

Thanks Digital Samizdat.

William Finck at Christogenea.org did a 2 part podcast on the relationship of Adolph Hitler to Christianity, making the point that Hitler was not anti Christian.

https://christogenea.org/podcasts/hitler-christian

“I am going to explain why Adolf Hitler was a Christian, and why National Socialism was essentially a Christian political philosophy in spite of the protests heard from church-going mainstream Christians and non-Christians alike, and especially from pagans who somehow insist that Hitler was one of them.”

Add this (did not know previous comment 126 would expand):

It’s all very surreal. A satire website run by @SethDillon,
who’s Jewish, makes a blatantly racist joke about an American-Indian politician, and American conservatives find it riotously funny.
I am not even going into the Jewish angle here.

It's all very surreal. A satire website run by @SethDillon, who's Jewish, makes a blatantly racist joke about an American-Indian politician, and American conservatives find it riotously funny.
I am not even going into the Jewish angle here. https://t.co/yZjfHg66R5

— Sreemoy Talukdar (@sreemoytalukdar) January 17, 2024

5ds

You write: “Why would FDR want a war with Hitler’s Germany? What was in it for the American Republic? Why hasn’t any historian since 1945 ever pointed that out? Ever.”

My response: I recommend that you read Chapter Two and the first two sections of Chapter Four of my book “Germany’s War,” which you can read for free on this website at https://www.unz.com/book/john_wear__germanys-war/.

FDR definitely wanted war with Hitler’s Germany.

The Jews trotted out all the court historians like Victor Davis Hanson and others to lecture Daryl Cooper and inform him that Hitler was in fact the devil incarnate and while Churchill flawed he was a good man who is innocent of the charges Cooper leveled against him.

Hanson is usually good on most things but on WWII mostly just repeats the Jewish version of events while emphasizing how wicked and immoral the Germans were and how moral and righteous we Americans were.

I have to disagree with you on your assertion that the “Austrian painter� was utilizing drugs to maintain his health.
I’ll bet you get your information (propaganda) from the American History Channel.
The “American History Channel� in the USA should be renamed the “American Hitler Channel� for all the falsehoods and propaganda that it portrays and disseminates about WW2, Germany and Adolf Hitler.
According to programs on the “American History Channel�, Hitler was a drug addict, impotent, riddled with syphilis and other STDs, yet possessed highly technical “superweapons�, possessed “alien technology�, advanced flight and anti-gravity technologies, and still could not “win� WW2.
Anyone with an open mind who watches the Hitler lies and fabrications on that channel can easily see that it is all BS, especially when the so-called “holocaust™� propaganda is inserted into just about all of these programming “gems�. The same old photos of emaciated typhus victim bodies due to the result of the camps infrastructure collapses, NOT “gas chambers� are constantly being paraded around to remind “us� how evil Hitler truly was. (Yeah, right). In fact, Hollywood movie producers were dispatched to Europe in order to “document� and preserve the propaganda (lies and fabrications) of that greatest jewish grift—the so-called jewish “holocaust�.
Germany was much more advanced than even the USA of the time, hence “Operation Paperclip� commenced in which the USA snatched up Germany’s greatest scientific minds after the summation of WW2.
Looking at the big picture (which is usually ignored), the “German state� was attacked by the rest of the world, and held on to its principles for over 6 years, far longer than expected.
Hitler’s greatest “sin� was the monetization of labor (giving labor true “value�) and going against the Rothschild banks. Going against the jew-run banks made him “enemy #1�. In fact, Germany’s recovery from the Great Depression and the excesses of the Wiemar Republic was much quicker than that of the western countries and the USA. In fact, it took a World War for the USA to recover from the Great Depression.
He also KNEW that there was a subset of Bolshevik jews who were fomenting communist revolution within Germany. Most people are unaware of the secret agreements that he had with the zionists to “encourage� jewish emigration to what was then known as Palestine. These agreements were celebrated by both the German government and the zionist leaders at the time. A commemorative coin was even issued to celebrate the agreement. THAT aspect of history is never mentioned on the “American Hitler Channel�.
When it comes to WW2, Germany, and even the Allies, the “American History Channel� is 99% propaganda and 1% truth.
If those of “the greatest generation� could see the jew-run world of today and what it has become, being jew-controlled, they would have thrown off their American uniforms and fought on the side of the Germans…
Observe the present genocide in Gaza and the West Bank. That’s what (((they))) plan for all of us (gentiles).

I’ve read minor references how the Reformation … led to the growth of the power of global Jewry. Any suggestions to books that focus on the subject in more detail?

The leader of the Reformation was a fellow named Martin Luther. If you want the truth, you may want to read what Luther had to say about the jews

https://www.colchestercollection.com/titles/O/on-the-jews.html

“Former Catholic priest and professor of Theology, Martin Luther is largely credited with intitiating the Protestant Reformation … What he is less known for is his fiery, yet erudite, commination of Jewish influence on Western Civilization and their arrogance in deliberately maintaining a separate identity from their Christian neighbors and the harm caused to the Christian community.”

Tucker should certainly take your offer. OTOH, do you have a lucrative podcast empire?

This Cooper is at least a little historically literate, so that is good.

Sort of, like, you know, he really needs to, like, you know, sort of, like, you know, sort of, like, work on, like, sort of, you know, work on, like, sort of, you know, like DO A LITTLE WORK ON ELIMINATING HIS EXTREMELY IRRITATING AMERICAN SPEAKING TICS, sort of like, you know, like, uh, you know, do a little self-training to like, you know, stop sort of, like, you know, stop sort of like, you know, sort of like just stop speaking, you know, like that.

Irving has primary source documentation behind his arguments. What have you got–besides a bridge for sale that you don’t own?

He’s spoofing the Chosen. He has a great sense of humor and is absolutely consistent. You need to admire that he is being the Kike that their absurd caricatures of Goy villains pleads for.

Long live JewishNumberOne!

I hate explaining jokes since it pretty much ruins them, but I’ll do it if I must.

Bad Vlad Putin should apologize for the Ukrainian/Holodomir famine…!

Bad Vlad Putin should apologize for the Ukrainian/Holodomir famine…! No sympathy
for that Devil..!

Hitler was a Communist puppet who’s job was to kill young white men in Europe, and he did an excellent job.

Yes. And contemporary ‘White Nationalism’ is a continuation. They have left-wing economic views (Communism), but now they take it a step further, and seek to force homosexuality into mainstream, heterosexual white society:

https://skandinaviskfrihet.se/network-of-homosexuals-exposed-in-the-alt-right-with-recordings/

So they are taking it to a level even more extreme than Hitler. Fortunately, they are making no inroads.

In Canada, you will see so many abandoned white women with ugly mulatto offspring!

Hitler wanted and planned for an independent Polish State. He offered to return all territories except Danzig and the Corridor. The UK was not interested, and Stalin would have none of it.

Murder was retaliation for the brutal treatment of German civilians. An eye for an eye.

Poles may not be non white, but certainly can act that way sometimes.

Some are saying that Chamberlain and/or English conservatives wanted Hitler to attack USSR.
However, according to AJP Taylor, the English didn’t want any war. They, the victors of the Great War, were comfortable and any revision of status quo would upset their level of comfort.

The English government by 30’s had no particular trouble with USSR and remarkably USSR, save for the Spanish War, was rather non-interfering in the West.

Don’t you think you’re being a bit harsh? Hitler may not have been perfect but really who is?

Polish Bolsheviks murdered 50,000 German nationals in the Danzig corridor to provoke a German response. This, however, was not before they negotiated a protection treaty with British Bolsheviks. British Bolsheviks then declared war on Germany.

How can you blame someone for something that happened before he was born? Am I somehow responsible for the slaughter of American Indians a century ago? Will Jews born a hundred years from now be guilty of the genocide happening now in Gaza?…that’s a bad example all Jews are born murderers.

Yawn.
Europeans and European culture exist well before Christianity became the dominant religion.
This apologetic nonsense must stop.

It is important to keep in context that for Young and those she considers her people, the only person they hate more than Hitler is Jesus.

White nationalists worship the austrian painter like anglin does slant hole.

The painter was a statesman, funded by you know who. Israel could not have existed without him.

I want Germany to regain it’s confidence. It has been brutalized for far too long. But that confidence should not try to be regained by following the likes of a moustache man.

Stop romanticizing natsoc Germany.

Keep in mind that Hitler carefully and strictly excluded women from things like education and the judiciary. He also promoted family and community.

Those two things alone would have given Germany legs.

It is going to take ALL of yes to stop these fucking kikes and we should ALL be supporting Carlson and Cooper sharing and supporting all we can. What are YOU willing to sacrifice? We could wipe out the top Jews in a matter of hours if we were willing with minimal organization. If kikes can blow up pagers against their enemies so can we!! Yes we can!

Some are saying that Chamberlain and/or English conservatives wanted Hitler to attack USSR. However, according to AJP Taylor, the English didn’t want any war. They, the victors of the Great War, were comfortable and any revision of status quo would upset their level of comfort.

That would be me saying it. I am the only person here on UNZ saying this.

AJP Taylor is an English historian. British historians as a rule are completely worthless in telling the origins of WWII. You see, the British people see themselves as “good” guys in WWII. If you bluntly come out and say that Chamberlain was trying to drive Hitler eastwards in order to destroy USSR, trying to instigate a German-Soviet war so as to let the two destroy each other in a war of mutual annihilation, it wouldn’t seem like the British are the “good” guys no more. You see? There are a lot of British people that read this site, but not one has ever shown any sort of support for my posts on WWII. They just try to avoid it altogether. They won’t try to argue against it either since it is the truth and they will lose. David Irving himself makes no mention of this thesis at all in his books.

Only non British people can tell the truth on origins of WWII. If you pick up a book or article discussing origins of WWII and it is written by British person, 99% it will be utterly worthless.

The English government by 30’s had no particular trouble with USSR and remarkably USSR, save for the Spanish War, was rather non-interfering in the West.

Not true. Many british conservatives saw the threat of Bolshevism gaining power in mid 1930s. Soviet Union had signed security treaties with France and Czech in 1935 and communist backed popular fronts regimes were elected in France and Spain in 1936. A certain section of the conservatives were worried about it. They saw letting Hitler go eastwards as the solution.

…Churchill was not even apparently unwilling to rule out that Nazi Germany might have to be utilised as a counter against ‘such a Russia’. For on 4 August 1936 he was sent a private letter by an intimate friend General Sir Hugh Tudor, who argued as follows:

The situation in Europe certainly seems to be getting worse. Spain is a new complication. If the rebels win the Fascist group will be strengthened in Europe, and Spain may line up with Italy an Germany.

If the red Government wins Bolshevism will come very near us. With Spain Bolshie, France half Bolshie, and Russia subsidising our communists are we going to line up with them and Russia?

I know how important even vital our friendship with France is, but I feel many in England would rather make a strong western pact with Germany and France and let Germany settle Russia and Bolshevism in her own way. No doubt Germany would eventually be stronger after defeating Russia but in the meantime we and France would have time to get our defences right; and it would take years before Germany would be in a position to make war again, nor do I suppose she would want to having got a satisfactory expansion. Even Germany cannot like war. Russia deserves what is coming to her, as she will never stop undermining capitalistic governments in every way she can. If she is left alone, in 1o years or so she will be the strongest power on earth and she may want to take in India and may be a more dangerous enemy than Germany.’

Churchill’s remarkable reply read:

I have, as you divine, been much perturbed in my thoughts by the Spanish explosion. I feel acutely the weight of what you say … I am sure it represents the strong and growing section of Conservative opinion, and events seem to be driving us in that direction.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3679427 https://annas-archive.org/scidb/10.2307/3679427

See the sources that I gave in comment 63. There are tons of quotes from British conservatives on letting Hitler go east to destroy Soviet Union.

Most logical. Thank you

I had an extremely bad set of experiences in my youth, a d wime people told me that although I didn’t deserve what had happened, if I had stayed under the umbrella, I would have been spared. A profound and deadly sickness is upon us.

We could wipe out the top Jews in a matter of hours if we were willing with minimal organization. If kikes can blow up pagers against their enemies so can we!! Yes we can!

No, you can’t.

If you retarded nazi cunts were going to do something like that, you would have already done it. You’re just jealous that the jews pulled off a scaled-up James Bond maneuver for the ages.

As far a ‘wiping out the top jews’ is concerned, why not start with ONE jew? The reason is that you’re too fucking retarded to even pull that off. All you do is try to fire-bomb synagogues filled with old jews who have no power whatsoever.

Christ, you morons are fucking pathetic.

You neo pagan retards are so tiresome. Europe was great because of Christianity, not in spite of it. Even the most cursory glance at history should tell you that, the fact that is doesn’t only proves how blind you really are.

Have you sought help for your cranio-anal inversion?
The stated government/party policy was to reverse the injustices of Versailles and restore lost “German” lands. In case you have forgotten a big chunk of what is now Ukraine (farmland) was part of the Autro-Hungarian Empire. As for Poland, previously German territories, like Upper Silesia, were ceded to Poland and when Poland invaded Czechoslovakia (Cieszyn Silesia) the Munich Agreement acknowledged that, along with Hungary’s invasion of Ruthenia.
If “Mr. Mustache” had wanted to claim all of Poland, why would he propose a referendum for West Prussia with guarantees for Polish access to the Baltic if Germany won the referendum?
Are the documented atrocities in West Prussia, re-started by Rydz-Smigly, sent by Germany to the League of Nations, false? Are you saying the documents released by the Germans on capturing Warsaw, confirmed by the Polish and American Ambassadors as being true, are false?
Learn to separate issues. National Socialism was a German solution for perceived German problems, and not for export. It had flaws, just like every other political/economic theory. That does not equate to actions taken by a National Socialist (or communist, capitalist, or any other “ist”) is not legitimate in any or every circumstance.

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hard work and the Christian monks invented scientific method

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I do not disagree with your comment in any respect. I would add, however, that the speech of Carlson himself hardly represents much of an improvement, if any, on Cooper’s. Moreover, Carlson’s high-pitched cackling laughter, reminiscent as it is of Kamala Harris’s, juvenilizes the impact of everything he says or responds to.

Might this giggly-kid act have a self-protective component? Whether it does or doesn’t, the fact remains that Carlson is a fifty-five-year-old man. Surely it’s time for him to stop basing his public persona so heavily on adolescent charm.

Then, John, do tell why, please.

It’s more than given Baron will read your book, thank you, but in the meantime could you say why would FDR want to battle Hitler’s Germany, it will be for the benefit of those that will not read your book, thanks.

There’s is scarcely a piece penned by you, Mr. Unz, that Baron has missed, this in no way says he agrees with you on everything.

The notion the FDR wanted to fight Hitler has never been evidenced by any document, authenticated report or a deed, there isn’t even a scrap of official proof or affirmation of it, it’s all second hand, a prominent journalist, a diplomat, or someone saying he was told of FDR’s intentions.

And as for Suvorov, the man could get away with his take on the start of WW2 because the West was ignorant of the USSR as it’s ignorant of Putin’s Russia, the prism the Russians deploy looking at the world differs fundamentally from that the West prefers, the war in Ukraine is a good example of it, the Russians will not only go hungry but die for Mother Russia, for them the ideal of a Russia the great trumps everything else, instead of reading books you quote in your pieces you should read Laurens Van der Post’s Journey into Russia, he gets close to figuring what it is that makes the Russians Russians.

It’s more than given Baron will read your book, thank you, but in the meantime could you say why would FDR want to battle Hitler’s Germany, it will be for the benefit of those that will not read your book, thanks.

FDR’s master plan was finish President’s Wilson’s plan to create a world government called the United Nations based in New York. Nationalist Germany had no interest in that. Here is a short video summary:

You write: “…could you say why would FDR want to battle Hitler’s Germany, it will be for the benefit of those that will not read your book, thanks.”

My response: A major reason is that President Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) was surrounded by numerous Jewish advisors. Jewish historian Lucy Dawidowicz wrote, “Roosevelt himself brought into his immediate circle more Jews than any other president before or after him.� Consequently, FDR was surrounded by a milieu of Jewish hate and hostility toward Germany. FDR was determined to destroy Germany because his Jewish advisors were determined to destroy Germany. (Source: Bradberry, Benton L., The Myth of German Villainy, Bloomington, IN: AuthorHouse, 2012, pp. 321, 339-340).

Hungarian Louis Marschalko and other researchers have listed some of the Jewish advisors to FDR as follows:

1. Bernard M. Baruch — A financier and advisor to FDR.
2. Felix Frankfurter — Supreme Court Justice; a key player in FDR’s New Deal system.
3. David E. Lilienthal — Director of Tennessee Valley Authority, advisor. The TVA changed the relationship of government-to-business in America.
4. David Niles — Presidential aide.
5. Louis Brandeis — U.S. Supreme Court Justice; confidant of FDR; “Fatherâ€� of New Deal.
6. Samuel I. Rosenman — Official speechwriter for FDR.
7. Henry Morgenthau Jr. — Secretary of the Treasury, “unofficialâ€� presidential advisor. Father of the Morgenthau Plan to restructure Germany/Europe after WWII.
8. Benjamin V. Cohen — State Department official, advisor to FDR.
9. Rabbi Stephen Wise — Close friend of FDR, spokesman for the American Zionist movement, head of The American Jewish Congress.
10. Adolph J. Sabath—An avid New Dealer, Zionist, and interventionist who strongly supported war against National Socialist Germany.
11. Sidney Hillman — Presidential advisor.
12. Anna Rosenberg — Longtime labor advisor to FDR, and manpower advisor with the Manpower Consulting Committee of the Army and Navy Munitions Board and the War Manpower Commission.
13. Herbert H. Lehman — Governor of New York, 1933-1942, Director of U.S. Office of Foreign Relief and Rehabilitation Operations, Department of State, 1942-1943; Director-General of UNRRA, 1944-1946, friend of FDR.
14. Herbert Feis — U.S. State Department official, economist, and an advisor on international economic affairs.
15. R. S. Hecht — Financial advisor to FDR.
16. Nathan Margold — Department of the Interior Solicitor, legal advisor.
17. Jesse I. Straus — Advisor to FDR.
18. H. J. Laski – “Unofficial foreign advisor� to FDR.
19. Emanuel A. Goldenweiser — Federal Reserve Director.
20. Charles E. Wyzanski — U.S. Labor department legal advisor.
21. Samuel Untermyer — Lawyer, “unofficial public ownership advisorâ€� to FDR.
22. Jacob Viner — Tax expert at the U.S. Treasury Department, assistant to the Treasury Secretary.
23. Edward Filene — Businessman, philanthropist, unofficial presidential advisor.
24. David Dubinsky — Labor leader, president of International Ladies Garment Workers Union.
25. William C. Bullitt — Part-Jewish, ambassador to USSR [is claimed to be Jonathan Horwitz’s grandson; unconfirmed].
26. Mordecai Ezekiel — Agriculture Department economist.
27. Abe Fortas — Assistant director of Securities and Exchange Commission, Department of the Interior Undersecretary.
28. Isador Lubin — Commissioner of Labor Statistics, unofficial labor economist to FDR.
29. Harry Dexter White [Weiss] — Assistant Secretary of the Treasury; a key founder of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank; advisor, close friend of Henry Morgenthau. Cowrote the Morgenthau Plan.
30. Robert Moses – Held numerous New York public offices; instituted centralization in New York state government which was later used as a model for FDR’s New Deal.
31. David Weintraub — Official in the Office of Foreign Relief and Rehabilitation Operations; helped create the United Nations; Secretary, Committee on Supplies, 1944-1946.
32. Nathan Gregory Silvermaster — Agriculture Department official and head of the Near East Division of the Board of Economic Warfare; helped create the United Nations.
33. Harold Glasser — Treasury Department director of the division of monetary research. Treasury spokesman on the affairs of United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration.
34. Irving Kaplan — U.S. Treasury Department official, friend of David Weintraub.
35. Solomon Adler — Treasury Department representative in China during World War II.
36. Benjamin Cardozo — U.S. Supreme Court Justice.
37. Leo Wolman — Chairman of the National Recovery Administration’s Labor advisory Board; labor economist.
38. Rose Schneiderman — Labor organizer; on the advisory board of the National Recovery Administration.
39. Jerome Frank — General counsel to the Agricultural Adjustment Administration, Justice, U.S. Court of Appeals, 1941-1957.
40. Gerard Swope — Key player in the creation of the N.R.A. [National Recovery Administration].
41. Herbert Bayard Swope — Brother of Gerard Swope.
42. James M. Landis – Member of the Federal Trade Commission; member and later chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission.
43. J. David Stern — Federal Reserve Board member, appointed by FDR.
44. Nathan Straus — Housing advisor.
45. Charles Michaelson — Democratic [DNC] publicity man.
46. Lawrence Steinhardt — Ambassador to the Soviet Union.
47. Harry Guggenheim — Heir to Guggenheim fortune, advisor on aviation.
48. Arthur Garfield Hays — Advisor on civil liberties.
49. David Lasser — Head of Worker’s Alliance, labor activist.
50. Max Zaritsky — Labor advisor.
51. James Warburg — Millionaire, his father helped establish the Federal Reserve System; early supporter of the New Deal before backing out.
52. Louis Kirstein — Associate of E. Filene.
53. Charles Wyzanski, Jr. — Counsel, Dept. of Labor.
54. Charles Taussig — Early New Deal advisor.
55. Jacob Baker — Assistant to W.P.A. head Harry Hopkins; assistant head of W.P.A. [Works Progress Administration].
56. Louis H. Bean — Dept. of Agriculture official.
57. Abraham Fox — Research director, Tariff Commission.
58. Benedict Wolf — National Labor Relations Board [NLRB].
59. William Leiserson – NLRB.
60. David J. Saposs – NLRB.
61. A. H. Meyers — NLRB [New England division].
62. L. H. Seltzer — Head economist at the Treasury Dept.
63. Edward Berman — Dept. of Labor official.
64. Jacob Perlman — Dept. of Labor official.
65. Morris L. Jacobson — Chief statistician of the Government Research Project.
66. Jack Levin — Assistant general manager, Rural Electrification Authority.
67. Harold Loeb — Economic consultant, N.R.P.
68. William Seagle — Council, Petroleum Labor Policy Board.
69. Herman A. Gray — Policy committee, National Housing Conference.
70. Alexander Sachs — Rep. of Lehman Brothers, early New Deal consultant.
71. Paul Mazur — Rep. of Lehman Brothers, early consultant for New Deal.
72. Henry Alsberg — Head of the Writer’s Project under the W.P.A.
73. Lincoln Rothschild — New Deal art administrator.
74. Sol Rosenblatt – Administrator of the NRA’s division on amusement and
transportation codes. (Source: Marschalko, Louis, The World Conquerors: The Real War
Criminals, Omnia Veritas Ltd., pp. 96-97, 108-109).

Marschalko wrote about this hidden Jewish power:

“A hidden power, able to keep under its control a country of 150 million people, governing from key positions from its brain trust and from behind the presidential chair, is a terrible thing to contemplate. But Roosevelt required the help of this far-reaching and omnipotent power in order to involve America in the Second World War.” (Source: Ibid., p. 97).

I hope this helps you understand why FDR wanted to destroy National Socialist Germany.

Overall, the volume of solid evidence in favor of FDR’s role in orchestrating the war is absolutely overwhelming, far more than you’d ever find in almost any comparable historical situation.

FDR sent US Marines to Iceland in July 1941 (over the objections of its government) to free British troops (who had invaded to use its airfields and ports) for duty elsewhere.

“Will Jews born a hundred years from now be guilty of the genocide happening now in Gaza?�

“Just for being Jews?� No. But they will be rightfully be considered accomplices after the fact if they (1) justify it; (2) stifle dissent and impose punishment on anyone questioning their narrative and above all continue to squat on stolen land and pursue ethnic cleansing.
Would you consider the jews born in Israel after Nakbah (but before the Gaza genocide) guilty of Nakbah? No, but definitely accomplices after the fact for justifying it, and accruing “guilt� for the ensuing decades of slow genocide.

You, Mr. Unz and Baron will never agree, it seems, it would be pointless to continue the debate, that FDR had every intention to clobber Japan is not new, but that he also wanted a war with Germany is new to Baron who isn’t an activist of any sort but merely a seeker of the truth.

The Suvorov hypothesis falls also because had it been true Hitler would have mentioned it, he never did, it’s surprising given the Abwehr’s capabilities and reach that something of this importance and magnitude escaped the German military-intelligence service.

Still, Baron admires your endeavour to correct some of the falsehoods in the historic interpretation of WW2, it’s has been shaped by the victors far too much.

Your suspicion errs badly, Mr. Unz, Baron’s someone who spent time in Ljubjanka, be it a short span, and not voluntarily, was sentenced on political charges, left the Gulag (for the whole of the Kremlin controlled empire was a massive Gulag), settled in the UK.

Battling Japan would have been enough to revive the US economy beyond the 2nd New Deal of 1936 that attained the 3 Rs, the GDP dipped in 1938 but recovered to the 1937 level the next year and kept on growing from then on, later in the 40s at accelerated rate, indeed thanks to the war, the dip in 1938 wasn’t anywhere near as drastic as what happened in 1929 and the years after.

You write: “The Suvorov hypothesis falls also because had it been true Hitler would have mentioned it, he never did, it’s surprising given the Abwehr’s capabilities and reach that something of this importance and magnitude escaped the German military-intelligence service.”

My response: Actually, Hitler did mention that his invasion of the Soviet Union was for preemptive purposes.

Adolf Hitler’s speech on Dec. 11, 1941, declared war on the United States. This speech provides important corroborating evidence why Hitler attacked the Soviet Union. Hitler stated in this speech:

When I became aware of the possibility of a threat to the east of the Reich in 1940 through reports from the British House of Commons and by observations of Soviet Russian troop movements on our frontiers, I immediately ordered the formation of many new armored, motorized and infantry divisions. The human and material resources for them were abundantly available….

We realized very clearly that under no circumstances could we allow the enemy the opportunity to strike first into our heart. Nevertheless, the decision in this case was a very difficult one. When the writers for the democratic newspapers now declare that I would have thought twice before attacking if I had known the strength of the Bolshevik adversaries, they show that they do not understand either the situation or me.

I have not sought war. To the contrary, I have done everything to avoid conflict. But I would forget my duty and my conscience if I were to do nothing in spite of the realization that a conflict had become unavoidable. Because I regarded Soviet Russia as a danger not only for the German Reich but for all of Europe, I decided, if possible, to give the order myself to attack a few days before the outbreak of this conflict.

A truly impressive amount of authentic material is now available which confirms that a Soviet Russian attack was intended. We are also sure about when this attack was to take place. In view of this danger, the extent of which we are perhaps only now truly aware, I can only thank the Lord God that He enlightened me in time and has given me the strength to do what must be done. Millions of German soldiers may thank Him for their lives, and all of Europe for its existence.

I may say this today: If this wave of more than 20,000 tanks, hundreds of divisions, tens of thousands of artillery pieces, along with more than 10,000 airplanes, had not been kept from being set into motion against the Reich, Europe would have been lost.

Several nations have been destined to prevent or parry this blow through the sacrifice of their blood. If Finland had not immediately decided, for the second time, to take up weapons, then the comfortable bourgeois life of the other Nordic countries would have been quickly ended.

If the German Reich, with its soldiers and weapons, had not stood against this opponent, a storm would have burned over Europe which would have eliminated once and for all time the laughable British idea of the European balance of power in all its intellectual paucity and traditional stupidity.

If the Slovaks, Hungarians and Romanians had not also acted to defend this European world, then the Bolshevik hordes would have poured over the Danube countries as did once the swarms of Attila’s Huns, and [Soviet] Tatars and Mongols would [then] force a revision of the Treaty of Montreux on the open country by the Ionian Sea.

If Italy, Spain and Croatia had not sent their divisions, then a European defense front would not have arisen which proclaims the concept of a new Europe and thereby effectively inspires all other nations as well. Because of this awareness of danger, volunteers have come from northern and western Europe: Norwegians, Danes, Dutch, Flemish, Belgians and even French. They have all given the struggle of the allied forces of the Axis the character of a European crusade, in the truest sense of the word. (Source: Weber, Mark, “The Reichstag Speech of 11 December 1941: Hitler’s Declaration of War Against the United States,� The Journal of Historical Review, Vol. 8, No. 4, Winter 1988-1989, pp. 395-396).

Hitler’s speech confirms Suvorov’s thesis that the German invasion of the Soviet Union was for preemptive purposes. Hitler’s attack was not for Lebensraum or any other malicious reason.

FDR wasn’t evil? LOL, yeah ok.

I don’t mean to alarm you, but anyone who always talks about himself in the 3rd person as you do (“Baron does not agree,” ‘Baron thinks’) may, just may, need professional help.
It doesn’t mean it is necessarily something serious and incurable, may be just stress, but do let yourself get a checkup. Let me rephrase that:
let Baron get a checkup.

I think you can improve your efficiency in dealing with comments addressed to you by having a uniform automatically activated response to most of those that contain the syntagm “furnish evidence.” Something like “Please consult the UR bibliography, especially the American Pravda series. Happy readings!”

Then the Jews shouldn’t blame Germans or the Vatican for past run ins..!

the laughable British idea of the European balance of power in all its intellectual paucity and traditional stupidity.

What did he mean by this?

One of the problems with Vladimir Rezun’s book, Chief Culprit, is that it’s not guaranteed that the quotes he uses actually corroborate with a source.

For example, this is how he quotes Hitler in a letter sent to Mussolini on June 21, 1941:

On June 21, 1941, Hitler wrote a letter to Mussolini: “Russia is trying to destroy the Romanian oil fields. . . . The task for our armies is eliminating this threat as soon as possible.� (p. 159)

Source: Suvorov, V. (2013). The Chief Culprit: Stalin’s Grand Design to Start World War II. United States: Naval Institute Press.
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This is how official translations of that same letter appear:

It is conceivable that Russia will try to destroy the Rumanian oil region. We have built up a defense that will—or so I think—prevent the worst. Moreover, it is the duty of our armies to eliminate this threat as rapidly as possible.

Source: Nazi-Soviet Relations, 1939-1941: Documents from the Archives of the German Foreign Office. (1948). United States: Department of State.
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Which one do you think is correct? In this case, I’m inclined to believe the official translation and not Mr. Rezun.

On another occasion, he uses a quote which I am unable to find in the listed source:

He [Hitler] also said, on June 22, 1942: “Back home in Russia, they created an extremely powerful military industry . . . and the more we find out what goes on in Russia, the more we rejoice that we delivered the decisive blow in time. The Red Army’s weaponry is the best proof that they succeeded in reaching extremely high achievements.� (p. 145)

Source: Suvorov, V. (2013). The Chief Culprit: Stalin’s Grand Design to Start World War II. United States: Naval Institute Press.
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This is the listed source: Piker, Hitler’s Table Talks, 205.

I think he used the Russian version and I wonder if there was some funny business going on with the publisher or translator. I actually searched in an English version and a machine translated German version of the Table Talk and that quote did not come up. So, I don’t know if it’s real or not.

It is interesting that he quotes Hitler’s Table Talk almost ten times in Chief Culprit. That’s the source he uses for most of his Hitler quotes. We must infer then that Vladimir Rezun believes the Table Talk is an accurate representation of Hitler’s thinking. But anyone who has read that book knows that Hitler makes numerous references to the planned colonization of Russia, which is at odds with Rezun’s claim.

Hitler states: “the laughable British idea of the European balance of power in all its intellectual paucity and traditional stupidity” and you ask: “What did he mean by this?”

My response: Hitler is saying here that if Germany and its Allies had not attacked the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, then the Soviet Union would have conquered all of Europe.

The British had traditionally wanted a balance of power in Europe so that no one country would dominate and control the European continent. Hitler is saying here that this British desire for balance of power in Europe was stupid, because there would have been no balance of power in Europe if the Soviet Union had been allowed to invade and conquer the European continent.

You write: “One of the problems with Vladimir Rezun’s book, Chief Culprit, is that it’s not guaranteed that the quotes he uses actually corroborate with a source.”

My response: It is interesting that the man on this website who calls himself Incitatus pointed out the same possible misquote on page 159 of Viktor Suvorov’s book The Chief Culprit. Did you get this possible misquote from him, or did you discover it on your own?

You ask: “Which one do you think is correct? In this case, I’m inclined to believe the official translation and not Mr. Rezun.”

My response: I don’t know for sure. I only speak and read English. It is quite possible that Viktor Suvorov has many misquotes in his book. However, even if his book has numerous misquotes, in my opinion the other evidence he presents in his book is sufficient to prove that the Soviet Union was going to invade Germany and all of Europe later in 1941. Hitler’s invasion of the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941 was preemptive in nature.

That will not do, John, you may have missed Baron saying the Hitler was a pathological liar, the speech you quote is full of such lies, almost all of his speeches contained the same, that he wanted nothing but peace, that the Bolshevik Russia was a threat to the world, that all nations should unite against the Georgian thug, that the Red Army is poised to attack the West, that every peace loving man or a woman should join the Reich in its efforts to counter it …

What Baron has asked, will continue asking, is a document from any of the upper layers of the German military, any branch will do that shows how the officers were preparing for the invasion of the Red Army, what and where were the fortifications to stop the invader, something concrete to back Hitler’s rants you quote in his speech above.

Sadly for you and those that swallowed the Suvorov’s plant there was very little of any bunkers, trenches, fortifications in the Reich in 1941, in fact there was nothing to suggest the Wehrmacht was ready for an invasion, everything too suggest it was more than ready to go on the offensive.

It was not until Kursk that a serious effort was made to begin building structures and trenches even hundreds of miles from the front to the West, you may not believe it, Baron was born and lived in a region where the locals had to dig, but the same applies to Germany, search for a bunker near an autobahn in 1941 -42, nothing, not even a plan to build one, it only changed in 1943.

Hitler lied, lied and lied and one of such lies was his saying Barbarossa was a pre-emptive strike, it wasn’t, it was a well designed offensive move, there was never any danger of the Red Army moving West. Having said that Baron accepts that the Red Army military command may have and probably considered it as one of the options, but the probability of it being approved by the Georgian thug was close to zero.

Thank you, Mr. Unz, Baron will certainly read the suggested piece, and sorry, he ain’t Russian.

Still, you should not waste your time on him, but you may like to see Baron’s reply to John Wear above, it was not Hitler’s speeches talking about the threat of the Red Army conquering Europe (just as today the MSM fruitcakes are yapping about Putin trying to do the same), it was his offering it seriously to the leaders trying to stop his conquers (say) to Neville, but more so it was the absence of any preparations by Wehrmacht for the possible invasion by the Red Army.

There were no bunkers, no air raid shelters no nothing built in the Reich before 1943. One would have thought that if the threat of the Red Army invading the West was real, as Hitler kept saying, there would be a detailed plan by the Wehrmacht how to defend it, that the public will be constructing fortifications and shelters, but no, nothing of this sort was happening.

If Baron were to find it there exists a small pamphlet penned by a Jew driving in Germany towards the West in the Spring 1941, amongst the things he remarks on is a total absence of any structures that would suggest the country was preparing for an invasion by the Georgian thug. The pamphlet is not in English, and it is not a survey of the whole country, but one would have thought at least some effort would have been made to ensure the burghers of Germany were safe had the Georgian thug decided to move west.

Listen up, you sweet dumpling, you should educate yourself on illeism, Baron has googled for it 4 you, read it, it may help to understand it better.

Baron would love to make the same claim as the great Belgian detective Poirot that used the same act saying to was to distance himself from his genius. In Baron’s case it’s simply to differentiate himself from the crowd, in fact, illesim is a useful device as the article makes clear:

https://www.all-about-psychology.com/illeism.html

Tell Baron he/it is pathetic.

It is interesting that the man on this website who calls himself Incitatus pointed out the same possible misquote on page 159 of Viktor Suvorov’s book The Chief Culprit. Did you get this possible misquote from him, or did you discover it on your own?

When I read Chief Culprit recently, that quote really jumped out at me. Because the way Rezun wrote it is very misleading if you read the entire letter. I thought to myself, “That’s a very deceptive thing to do” because he uses it as the main argument as to why Hitler went to war. That led me to scrutinize the rest of the book.

There are some interesting parts of Chief Culprit which I think are overlooked. Take this passage for example:

You write: “What Baron has asked, will continue asking, is a document from any of the upper layers of the German military, any branch will do that shows how the officers were preparing for the invasion of the Red Army, what and where were the fortifications to stop the invader, something concrete to back Hitler’s rants you quote in his speech above.”

My response: I am not sure what kind of document you are looking for.

Stalin had three separate independent espionage agencies working for him. The total power of these agencies was colossal, and testimonies abound about the might of Stalin’s espionage. These Soviet espionage services had penetrated into leading German military and political circles. Soviet military intelligence managed to gain access in Germany to the most secret information from the highest levels of power. Given these facts, the question is: “How could Hitler have surprised Stalin with his invasion of the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941?�

Suvorov says that Hitler knew that it had become impossible to conceal his preparations to invade the Soviet Union. Therefore, Hitler said in secret, in a way that Stalin could hear, “Yes, I want to attack Stalin after I have finished the war in the west.� The Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Soviet Armed Forces (GRU) also made extensive studies of all the economic, political, and military aspects of the situation and concluded that Germany could not win a war on two fronts. The GRU concluded that Hitler would not begin a war in the east without first finishing the war in the west. The head of the GRU submitted a detailed report to Stalin on March 20, 1941, which concluded that “the earliest possible date on which operations against the USSR may begin is the moment following victory over England or after an honorable peace for Germany has been achieved.� (Source: Suvorov, Viktor, The Chief Culprit: Stalin’s Grand Design to Start World War II, Annapolis, MD: Naval Institute Press, 2008, pp. 244-247).

Soviet intelligence knew about the massive concentration of German troops on Soviet borders, the locations of all German divisions, the huge ammunition supplies, the movements of the German air force, and many other things. Soviet GRU agents knew many important secrets, including the name of Operation Barbarossa and the time of its inception. Yet on the eve of the German invasion, Soviet intelligence reported that preparations for invasion had not yet begun, and without these preparations Soviet intelligence felt it was impossible for Germany to begin the war. (Source: Ibid., p. 248).

Given the extensive penetration of the Soviet espionage agencies into German military and political circles, why would Hitler want to document his plans to invade the Soviet Union? This would give away his plans and allow the Soviet Union to counter his invasion plans.

For more details, I recommend that you read Chapter One of my book “Germany’s War,” which you can read for free on this website at https://www.unz.com/book/john_wear__germanys-war/.

You write: “There are some interesting parts of Chief Culprit which I think are overlooked.”

My response: Suvorov writes some things in “The Chief Culprit” that I don’t agree with.

For example, despite Germany’s inability to successfully fight a prolonged war, Suvorov makes statements in his book as if Germany was attempting to conquer the world. Suvorov states: “In that same year, 1939, Hitler began his war for global domination,� and “Hitler went after world domination in September 1939 with just six tank divisions.� (Source: Suvorov, Viktor, The Chief Culprit: Stalin’s Grand Design to Start World War II, Annapolis, MD: Naval Institute Press, 2008, pp. 65, 87).

Hitler never had the resources or military to obtain world domination. Hitler was not even aware that his attack of Poland on Sept. 1, 1939, would turn into anything more than a local conflict.

Suvorov also implies that Hitler attacked Poland because Poland refused to satisfy Hitler’s aggressive demands. Suvorov states: “Hitler demanded a review of the Versailles Treaty. In accordance with this treaty, Eastern Prussia was separated from the main part of Germany, and the city of Danzig was declared a free city. Hitler demanded to be given a corridor through Polish territory to build a highway and a railroad between East Prussia and mainland Germany. Additionally, the city of Danzig was to become a part of Germany. The Polish government refused to satisfy Hitler’s demands.� (Source: Ibid., p. 106).

In my opinion, this analysis is simplistic and misleading. It would be more accurate to state that Poland, with the backing of Great Britain, refused to negotiate with Germany and adopted policies that forced war between Germany and Poland.

So, The Chief Culprit is not a perfect book. However, in my opinion, it does document Stalin’s plan to invade and conquer all of Europe.

I would also point out that Hitler’s views changed over time, so it’s hard to say what his thoughts are about conflicts with this or that country in general. As more information came in or the world situation changed, his goals and the dangers he perceived also changed.

In July to November 1940, he didn’t think the USSR was much of a threat, except that the specter of an Anglo-Soviet rapprochement hovered in the air. However, he was particularly fixated on Romania and Finland as extremely vital to Germany’s economy, and that was the main point of contention with the USSR. It was these areas where he perceived a possible threat, and so it turned out that the expedient Molotov-Ribbentrop pact came home to roost. Even so, I don’t think he made the final decision to invade until the meeting with Molotov.

It was after Directive 21 was issued, when the recon flights became more regular, that the massing of Red Army troops on the border came to his attention as something serious. Of course, it was a mirror image because there was a massing of both German and Soviet troops. But from that point on, there was no possibility of turning back. He did, however, wrongfully assume that virtually all the Red Army formations were on the border with Germany. Perhaps he felt he needed to assume this because the plan for a quick victory was already specified in Directive 21.

Anyway, the situation was much more nuanced than these grand narratives of good guys and bad guys, masterminds and puppets, which people so greatly desire.

It would be more accurate to state that Poland, with the backing of Great Britain, refused to negotiate with Germany and adopted policies that forced war between Germany and Poland.

From July to August 1939, the Chamberlain government conducted secret talks with Germany to settle the Poland issue, divide up world markets and spheres of influence with Germany, get rid of the security obligations with Poland and to avoid war. Why didn’t Hitler agree to them? I feel that was Hitler’s greatest mistake.

“…The efforts of the Chamberlain group to continue the policy of appeasement by making economic and other concessions to Germany and their efforts to get Hitler to agree to a four-power pact form one of the most shameful episodes in the history of recent British diplomacy. These negotiations were chiefly conducted through Sir Horace Wilson and consisted chiefly of offers of colonial bribes and other concessions to Germany. These offers were either rejected or ignored by the Nazis…

…One of these offers revolved around a semi-official economic agreement under which British and German industrialists would form cartel agreements in all fields to fix prices of their products and divide up the world’s market…

…secret efforts were made through R.S. Hudson, secretary to the Department of Overseas Trade, to negotiate with Helmuth Wohlthat, Reich Commissioner for the Four Year Plan, who was in London to negotiate an international whaling agreement. Although Wholthat had no powers, he listened to Hudson and later to Sir Horace Wilson, but refused to discuss the matter with Chamberlain. Wilson offered: (1) a non-aggression pact with Germany; (2) a delimitation of spheres among the Great Powers; (3) colonial concessions in Africa along the lines previously mentioned; (4) an economic agreement. These conversations, reported to Berlin by Ambassador Dirksen in a dispatch of 21 July 1939, would have involved giving Germany a free hand in eastern Europe and bringing her into collision with Russia…

…The negotiations, however, were already bogging down because of the refusal of the Germans to become very interested in them. Hitler and Ribbentrop by this time despised the British so thoroughly that they paid no attention to them at all, and the German Ambassador in London found it impossible to reach Ribbentrop, his official superior, either by dispatch or personally. Chamberlain, however, in his eagerness to make economic concessions to Germany, gave to Hitler £6 million in Czechoslovak gold in the Bank of England, and kept Lord Runciman busy training to be chief economic negotiator in the great agreement which he envisaged…”

https://web.archive.org/web/20221029210347/http://www.yamaguchy.com/library/quigley/anglo_12b.html

Documents on the secret talks can be found here:

Documents And Materials Relating To The Eve Of The Second World War II. Dirksen Papers Vol. II ( 1938 1939)

https://archive.org/details/documents-and-materials-relating-to-the-eve-of-the-second-world-war-ii.-vol-ii-/

In Dirksens’s memoirs, he stated that Goring had three separate talks with Hitler in early August 1939 advising him to take up Chamberlain’s offers and to avoid war but Hitler rejected Goring.

Page 226:
Moscow Tokyo London: Twenty Years of German Foreign Policy
https://archive.org/details/moscowtokyolondo0000herb

“…The industrialist Lord Aberconway, longtime chairman of both John Brown, the Clydeside shipbuilding firm, and English China Clays, and also a master-gardener, has died aged 89. Three years ago, he belatedly unburdened himself of a 60-year-old guilty secret.

He told the Tory historian Andrew Roberts that, as a 26-year-old, he had been one of seven British businessmen dispatched secretly by Neville Chamberlain’s pro-appeasement government to try to stop an Anglo-German war over Poland.

Three weeks before the war the seven made their separate ways to the island of Sylt off the German coast, to meet Reichsmarschall Hermann Goering. Their purpose was to offer a “second Munich� – a four-power agreement involving Britain, Germany, France and Italy – to make further concessions to German demands for lebensraum, on condition that the Nazis did not invade Poland.

This offer, authorised by the leading appeaser, Chamberlain’s Foreign Secretary Lord Halifax, came as a shock to Halifax’s biographer Roberts, who had not found any reference to this last-minute offer in either Foreign Office documents or Halifax’s private papers. Aberconway backed his claims by showing Roberts 38 pages of documents…�

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2003/feb/06/guardianobituaries.obituaries

WWII was unnecessary, German European hegemony was close in his hands, the UK Chamberlain government was offering it on a silver platter to Hitler, but Hitler was hell bent on war.

You write: “WWII was unnecessary, German European hegemony was close in his hands, the UK Chamberlain government was offering it on a silver platter to Hitler, but Hitler was hell bent on war.”

My response: I agree with you that World War II was unnecessary. However, I don’t agree with you that Hitler was hell bent on war.

If you have an interest, I recommend that you read Chapter Three of my book “Germany’s War” for more information. You can read my book for free on this website at https://www.unz.com/book/john_wear__germanys-war/.

My response: I agree with you that World War II was unnecessary.

Hitler shouldn’t have invaded Poland. He should have reached another Munich deal with Chamberlain over Poland dispute. Chamberlain was willing to give Hitler Danzig and Polish corridor and a British-German non aggression pact.

If Hitler wanted to attack Russia, he could reach some sort of agreement with Japan to invade Russia together in 1941 after 1940 U.S. elections. FDR only decided to ran again in 1940 due to WWII. UK wouldn’t have joined forces with Russia to resist German invasion. It would defeat entire purpose of appeasement policy. The possibility is strong that UK and France would even join in on the side of Germany to destroy Russia. This nearly happened in 1940 when UK and France plotted to attack Russia.

Chamberlain was willing to give Hitler Danzig and Polish corridor and a British-German non aggression pact.

Britain couldn’t make those guarantees because Britain was not Poland. However, since Britain already told Poland that they would declare war on Germany, there was no reason for Poland to concede anything. They assumed either Hitler was bluffing or that they could overcome the German army with France and Britain.

The possibility is strong that UK and France would even join in on the side of Germany to destroy Russia. This nearly happened in 1940 when UK and France plotted to attack Russia.

The possibility was not strong. Britain only considered attacking the Soviet Union because they were supplying oil to Germany. So, it was really a way to attack Germany by attacking their resources. I noticed you didn’t mention the Anglo-French-Soviet collective security negotiations which were going on in the summer of 1939. The French representative was willing to sell the Baltic States, Poland, and Romania down the river in order to get the Red Army to the German borders. Britain, however, was not so forthcoming. They tried to draw out negotiations with the USSR as long as possible, and then the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was signed.

Britain couldn’t make those guarantees because Britain was not Poland.

Britain gave away Sudetenland to Germany, why can’t they do likewise with Danzig and Polish corridor? If Britain and Germany agreed on this issue, what can Poland do?

However, since Britain already told Poland that they would declare war on Germany, there was no reason for Poland to concede anything.

The guarantee made on March 31 was worded to cover Polish “independence� and not her “territorial integrity.� It was designed by UK to leave the way open to territorial revision without revoking the guarantee.

Britain only considered attacking the Soviet Union because they were supplying oil to Germany. So, it was really a way to attack Germany by attacking their resources.

That is fake reason actually. Romania supplied most of the oil to Germany in 1939/1940. If they were really after the oil, Romania should be the target, not Russia. UK/French plot to attack Russia was anti Russian in nature, had very little to do with Germany.

See page 236 of this book:

In our time : the Chamberlain-Hitler collusion
https://archive.org/details/inourtimechamber0000leib

I noticed you didn’t mention the Anglo-French-Soviet collective security negotiations which were going on in the summer of 1939.

Those talks were a joke, they were mainly a show to pressure Germany not to make war and to appease public opinion in UK for upcoming general elections.

See:

Stalin, appeasement, and the Second World War
https://www.columbia.edu/%7Elnp3/mark_jones/appeasement.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_17.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_19.htm
http://www.china.org.cn/china/military/2007-07/30/content_1219034.htm

Britain gave away Sudetenland to Germany, why can’t they do likewise with Danzig and Polish corridor? If Britain and Germany agreed on this issue, what can Poland do?

Britain did not guarantee to support the Sudetenland’s “independence� or “territorial integrity� with military assistance. That’s probably why they “gave it away�, by not declaring war on Germany.

The guarantee made on March 31 was worded to cover Polish “independence� and not her “territorial integrity.� It was designed by UK to leave the way open to territorial revision without revoking the guarantee.

It did not matter to the Polish leaders. They interpreted it as such: “We won’t concede Danzig. Germany either has to invade or probably do nothing. Either way we win and give up nothing. If Germany invades, the guarantee is triggered and they will be defeated.�

That is fake reason actually. Romania supplied most of the oil to Germany in 1939/1940. If they were really after the oil, Romania should be the target, not Russia. UK/French plot to attack Russia was anti Russian in nature, had very little to do with Germany.

No, that’s Russian/Soviet propaganda. The point is, Britain would not have considered attacking the Soviet Union in the first place had they not concluded the pact with Germany.

Those talks were a joke, they were mainly a show to pressure Germany not to make war and to appease public opinion in UK for upcoming general elections.

They were only a joke because Britain was unwilling to accept the “indirect aggression� clause that would allow the USSR to invade the Baltic States, plus Poland and Romania were not willing to allow the Red Army pass through.

Thanks for the links to a Marxist interpretation of history. Finally, an unbiased source to tell us what really happened.

First of all the Jews should not blame anyone else for their being Jews. Not even their parents.
It is not a hopelessly incurable condition, despite genetics, and despite their long indoctrination, but it is intractable as it requires introspection, a conscience (or at least the undeveloped kernel of it that can be stimulated to grow), and re-education.
I have known some who succeeded but have no way of knowing if their low numbers are real or perhaps there are more, too timorous to show up.

I should clarify that this part is true:

That is fake reason actually. Romania supplied most of the oil to Germany in 1939/1940. If they were really after the oil, Romania should be the target, not Russia.

However, it still stands that there would’ve been no plans to attack the USSR without the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. But the failed negotiations in August 1939, plus the Soviet occupation of Poland, plus the Winter War contributed to Britain’s desire to attack the Caucasus oil fields.

That idiot, conceited, vain, weak, stupid religion is WHY European civilization is in decline

Your dead jew on a stick nor your Sky Daddy are coming to save you

However, it still stands that there would’ve been no plans to attack the USSR without the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. But the failed negotiations in August 1939, plus the Soviet occupation of Poland, plus the Winter War contributed to Britain’s desire to attack the Caucasus oil fields.

It’s not hard to divine the motivations of UK and France as to why they wanted to attack Russia in 1939-1940.

Both of the two governments were anti Bolshevik. Their original plan was to let Hitler go eastwards to destroy bolshevik Russia. But the entire plan blew up in their faces with German-Soviet non aggression pact and German invasion of Poland. UK and France always feared that it there was another world war, Russia would stir up bolshevik revolution in their own countries and even watch UK/France and the Germans fight it out and wait for the right time when the two sides had exhausted themselves and then join in the war at the right moment to ignite European bolshevism and conquer territory for Russia.

If that is the case, better for UK and France to pre emptively attack Russia in 1939-1940 and finish it off during the “phoney” war rather than let Russia take advantage of the war and intervene against UK and France later on. This was Stalin’s thinking as well:

Unable to see through their dream of seeing the Nazi army charge through Poland to attack
the Soviet Union, France and Britain were forced to declare war on Germany. But on the Western Front, not a single bomb would bother Nazi tranquility. However, a real internal political war was launched against the French Communists: On September 26, the French Communist Party was banned and thousands of its members were thrown into prison. Henri de Kerillis wrote:
`An incredible tempest swept through bourgeois minds. The crusade storm raged. Only one cry could be heard: War on Russia. It was at this moment that the anti-Communist delirium reached its apogee.’

At the same time, Stalin spoke with great insight to Zhukov:

`The French Government headed by Daladier and the Chamberlain Government in Britain
have no intention of getting seriously involved in the war with Hitler. They still hope to incite Hitler to a war against the Soviet Union. By refusing in 1939 to form with us an anti-Hitler bloc, they did not want to hamper Hitler in his aggression against the Soviet Union. Nothing will come of it. They will have to pay through the nose for their short-sighted policy.’

https://web.archive.org/web/20131224111350/http://rumera.ru/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Another-view-of-Stalin.pdf

Unable to see through their dream of seeing the Nazi army charge through Poland to attack the Soviet Union, France and Britain were forced to declare war on Germany.

If that was their dream, then it made no sense to guarantee Polish “independenceâ€�. It would be much easier leave Poland to its own fate and give Germany the go ahead to realize that “dream”. But I’m sure this all made sense in Stalin’s paranoid mind of capitalist conspiracies.

Or better yet, why even bother forming an alliance with the Soviet Union in July 1941? Britain should’ve just given lend-lease material to Germany so that they could realize their “dream”. Now they have to hear the complaining forever.

It’s more than kind and generous of you to respond quoting mostly Suvorov, John, many thanks for it, you may not believe it, Baron’s educational background as well as a large chunk of his life covers what we are debating now.

We have nothing but Suvorov’s word for most of the theory that the Georgian thug intended to invade Western Europe, plus Hitler’s public speeches, plus few second to third hand testimonies.

What we do not have is any top politician that met Hitler (say) Neville or any other one (say) Halifax, Henderson (our Ambassador), Mussolini, Matsuoka, there were a score of them would say in the memoirs or in other official documents that Hitler mentioned to them that the Georgian thug wanted to invade Western Europe hence every nation should join Hitler to go destroy the communist monster. It would have been a powerful argument even more convincing if Hitler were to table a believable or even a made up evidence for such a claim. There is nothing of this kind of evidence.

Amongst the thousands of Wehrmacht documents captured after the war there isn’t a single one that would show how the military would have responded to the Red Army’s invasion, the possibility may have been considered but no serious preparations were put in place very likely because that option had a low priority, the absence of any fortifications, air raid shelters, bunker or whatever suggests that neither Hitler nor his military believed the Georgian thug will invade.

You haven’t responded to Baron’s claim that there were no serious defence fortification in Germany before the Kursk battle. Why? What would the good burghers of Germany do if hordes of the Red Army soldiery were to move on them.

The Georgian thug would not ever consider invading the Western Europe for the same reason he wouldn’t have moved further west in 1945 when the war ended even as he had 5mn men under command, well equipped and seasoned by the fighting for four years plus. He feared the men would be infected by the quality of life, by the immeasurably higher living standard of the Western plebeians, would realise the creed of communism was evil, may have turned against him. A vast number of the Red Army fighters ended in the Gulags after the war ended exactly for that reason.

PS: Having finished here Baron will click on the link read the chapter one, very likely more than just one chapter, thanks.

You write: “We have nothing but Suvorov’s word for most of the theory that the Georgian thug intended to invade Western Europe, plus Hitler’s public speeches, plus few second to third hand testimonies.”

My response: I will give you some things that support Suvorov’s thesis:

1) On May 5, 1941, Stalin made it clear to his generals that the Soviet Union would be the aggressor in a war with Germany. At a banquet a Soviet general toasted Stalin’s peaceful foreign policy. Stalin intervened:

“Allow me to make a correction. A peaceful foreign policy secured peace in our country. A peaceful foreign policy is a good thing. For a while, we drew a line of defenses until we rearmed our army [and] supplied it with modern means of combat. Now, when our army has been rebuilt, our technology modernized, [now that we are] strong [enough] for combat, now we must shift from defense to offense. In conducting the defense of our country, we are compelled to act in an aggressive manner. From defense we have to shift to a military policy of offense. It is indispensable that we reform our training, our propaganda, our press to a mindset of offense. The Red Army is a modern army, and the modern army is an army of offense.”

The general who made the toast to Stalin’s peaceful foreign policy was discharged a few days after the banquet.

2) Soviet soldiers and officers were issued Russian-German and Russian-Romanian phrase books as part of their preparations for an invasion of Europe. Thousands of Soviet troops did not think to get rid of this compromising evidence when they were captured in the German invasion of the Soviet Union. The Russian-German phrase books were composed very simply: a question in Russian, followed by the same question in German written in Russian letters, then in German in Latin letters. If the Soviet soldier did not know how to pronounce the needed German phrase, he could point to the corresponding lines in the book and the Germans could read the lines themselves.

The phrases indicated that the Soviets were planning to conduct an offensive war in Europe. For example, some phrases asked: “Where is the burghermeister? Is there an observation point on the steeple?� There were no burghermeisters or steeples in the Soviet Union. These questions are relevant only if the Soviet soldiers were in Germany. Here are other examples: “Where is the fuel? Where is the garage? Where are the stores? Where is the water? Gather and bring here [so many] horses [farm animals], we will pay!� These questions and phrases would not be relevant on Soviet soil. Other revealing phrases are the following: “You do not need to be afraid. The Red Army will come soon!� These phrases are also not relevant for a war conducted on Soviet soil.

3) Within less than a year, the Soviet Union destroyed a Japanese army in Mongolia, took over the eastern part of Poland by military force, conducted an extremely difficult and successful invasion of Finland, forced the Baltic nations of Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia to join the Soviet Union against their will, and took possession of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina from Romania.

These Soviet military conquests and ultimatums expanded the Soviet Union’s territory by 426,000 square kilometers, approximately equal to the surface area of the German Reich in 1919. These Soviet military operations prove that the Soviet Union was extremely powerful and aggressive. The Soviet Union was well-positioned after these military conquests to launch a massive offensive against all of Europe.

4) Further evidence that the Soviet Union was planning to attack Germany is provided by Andrei Vlasov, a Soviet general who had been captured by the Germans. During a conversation in 1942 with SS Gen. Richard Hildebrandt, Vlasov was asked if and when Stalin had intended to attack Germany. Hildebrandt later stated: “Vlasov responded by saying that the attack was planned for August-September 1941. The Russians had been preparing the attack since the beginning of the year, which took quite a while because of the poor Russian railroad network. Hitler had sized up the situation entirely correctly, and had struck directly into the Russian buildup. This, said Vlasov, is the reason for the tremendous initial German successes.�

5) During the German invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941, Yakov Iosifovich Dzhugashvili, the son of Stalin, was taken prisoner by the Germans. Stalin’s son was searched and questioned. A letter dated June 11, 1941, was found in his pockets from another officer stating: “I am at the training camps. I would like to be home by fall, but the planned walk to Berlin might hinder this.� German intelligence officers asked Yakov Dzhugashvili to clarify the statement about the “planned walk to Berlin.� Stalin’s son read the letter and quietly muttered: “Damn it!� Obviously, the letter indicates that Soviet forces were planning to invade Germany later that year.

6) The Red Army needed an air armada of transport planes and gliders to deliver hundreds of thousands of paratroopers. Soviet factories started the mass production of cargo gliders beginning in the spring of 1941. On April 23, 1941, Stalin and Molotov signed an order to accelerate the production of an 11-seat glider with a deadline of May 15, 1941, and of a 20-seat glider with a deadline of July 1, 1941. The gliders that were produced in the spring of 1941 had to be used by the latest in the early fall of 1941. Gliders had light and fragile bodies and wings and could not be parked outdoors. Keeping a huge cargo glider outdoors during fall winds and rains would harm it beyond repair. Since all available hangars were already full with previously produced gliders, the mass production of gliders in the spring of 1941 meant that they had to be used either in the summer of 1941 or early fall at the latest.

Cargo warplanes are used to deliver assault forces with parachutists to the enemy’s rear. Soviet war-transport aviation used the American Douglas DC-3, which was considered to be the best cargo plane in the world at the start of World War II, as its primary cargo plane. In 1938, the U.S. government sold to Stalin the production license and the necessary amount of the most complex equipment for the DC-3’s production. The Soviet Union also bought 20 DC-3s from the United States before the war. In 1939, the Soviet Union produced six identical DC-3 aircraft; in 1940, it produced 51 DC-3 aircraft; and in 1941, it produced 237 DC-3 aircraft. During the entire war 2,419 DC-3s or equivalent planes were produced in Soviet factories.

The Soviet gliders and transport planes would be easy prey for enemy fighters if the Soviet Union did not secure complete air superiority. The Red Army had to begin the war with a massive air attack and invasion against the enemy’s air bases. Tens of thousands of paratroopers could then be dropped to seize and control key bases and strategic sites. Any other scenario was not viable. Instead, it was Hitler who carried out a preemptive strike, and Stalin’s strategy to strike the first blow was aborted. The Soviet Union’s carefully designed plan to mount a massive air offensive followed by an assault of airborne troops had to be abandoned in the desperate rush to fight a defensive war.

7) From 1926 to 1937, the Soviet Union constructed 13 fortified regions along its western borders known unofficially as “the Stalin Line.� There were many differences between the Soviet Stalin Line and the French Maginot Line. Unlike the French Maginot Line, the Stalin Line was built in secrecy and not publicized. The Stalin Line was much deeper and was built not only to stop infantry, but mostly to stop tanks. The Soviets also used huge quantities of steel and granite boulders in addition to concrete. The Stalin Line was built from the Baltic Sea in the north to the Black Sea in the south and could not be bypassed. Finally, unlike the Maginot Line, the Stalin Line was not built at the very border, but further into Soviet territory.

The 13 fortified regions on the Stalin Line were built for defense and came at a tremendous cost in effort and money. Each fortified region was also a military formation that could independently conduct military operations during a long period of time and in isolated conditions. In 1938 it was decided to strengthen all 13 regions by building heavy artillery installations within them. The Soviet Union also started construction of eight more fortified regions. Then, when the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact created a common border between Germany and the Soviet Union, Stalin ordered further construction of the fortified regions to stop. The existing fortified regions were disarmed, and everything connected with defense was dismantled and destroyed.

The construction of a new line of fortified regions began during the summer of 1940 on the new Soviet-German border. These new regions were unofficially referred to as the Molotov Line, but they were never finished. The defense buildup on the new borders proceeded very slowly, while the destruction of the Stalin Line was surprisingly fast. When Germany attacked the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, the Molotov Line was not yet built. Soviet generals and marshals after Stalin’s death unanimously expressed their anger. They asked: How could Stalin liquidate and disarm the fortified regions on the old borders without building the necessary defenses on the new western borders? The answer is that Stalin was not planning to fight on his territory; Stalin was planning an offensive war against all of Europe.

8) The actions of the Red Army during the first days of the war speak best about Soviet intentions to conduct an offensive war. Up until June 30, 1941, Gen. Zhukov insisted on advance and demanded that commanders of Soviet forces aimed at Romania and Hungary exclusively attack. Zhukov stopped the attack only when he and his colleagues concluded that his armies could no longer advance. On June 22, 1941, several other Soviet commanders also followed prewar plans without awaiting orders from Moscow, and attacked the following regions: the Rava-Russkaya region, Tilzit in Eastern Prussia, and the Polish city of Suvalki.

The actions of the Soviet fleet during the first days of the war also show with sufficient clarity its plans for offense. On June 22, 1941, the submarines of the Baltic fleet sailed toward the shores of Germany with the objective of sinking all enemy ships and vessels according to the rules of unrestricted warfare. No exceptions were made, not even for medical vessels sailing under the Red Cross flag. Soviet submarines from the Black Sea fleet immediately sailed into the sea toward the shores of Romania, Bulgaria, and Turkey. On June 25 and 26, 1941, the Black Sea fleet’s cruisers carried out an intensive artillery raid in the vicinity of the Romanian port of Constanta. At the same time, the Danube military flotilla began an assault in the Danube river delta. The garrison of the Soviet naval base Hanko also conducted intensive assault operations during the beginning of the war, taking over 19 Finnish islands in the course of several days.

The Soviet air force also acted in an aggressive manner at the start of the war. On June 25, 1941, despite losses suffered during the first days of the war, Soviet air forces bombed all known air fields of the southern part of Finland. On June 23, 1941, acting according to plans, the Soviet long-range omber air force carried out a massive attack against military targets in Koenigsberg and Danzig. Soviet long-range bombers also began to bomb the PloieÅŸti oil fields in Romania on June 26, 1941. After a few days of raids, the amount of oil Germany obtained in Romania was reduced almost in half. If Hitler had not attacked first, the Soviet air force would have been much more dangerous, and could have totally paralyzed the entire German war effort through its strikes against the oil-producing regions.

9) Every Soviet commander, starting with regiment level and higher, had in his safe a so-called “Red Packet,� which contained the plans for war. When Germany invaded, the commanders opened their “Red Packets,� but they did not find in them anything useful for defense. The Red Army had neither prepared for defense nor conducted any training in defensive operations. The defensive operations of the Red Army in the summer of 1941 were pure improvisation.

10) German intelligence officers also asked Stalin’s son why the Soviet artillery, which had the best cannon and howitzers in the world, fired so poorly. Stalin’s son truthfully answered: “The maps let the Red Army down, because the war, contrary to expectations, unfolded to the east of the state border.� The Soviet maps were of territories in which the Red Army planned to advance, and were useless for defending the country. Storages of topographic maps located unreasonably close to the border were either destroyed by the advancing German army or by the retreating Soviet forces. In 1941, the Red Army fought without maps, and the Soviet artillery could not fire accurately without maps.

I hope this helps.

What are your views on John Erickson’s criticism of the Suvorov thesis?

BARBAROSSA JUNE 1941: WHO ATTACKED WHOM?

John Erickson reviews the recent controversies surrounding Hitler’s invasion of the Soviet Union.

https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=1704&sid=69c4ae71b491b63a743fefd84984c895

You ask: “What are your views on John Erickson’s criticism of the Suvorov thesis?”

My response: I have read both David M. Glantz, Stumbling Colossus: The Red Army on the Eve of World War and Gabriel Gorodetsky, Grand Delusion: Stalin and the German Invasion of Russia. I did not find either of these two books convincing. I think Hitler’s invasion of the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941 was preemptive in nature.

Well, I take it that’s what Hitler was trying to do. But I suppose it was too late by then. Or maybe der Führer really was just more controlled-op.

Agreed: we should keep an open mind on National Socialism for now. Just because Hitler wasn’t quite as opposed to Christianity as the Russian Bolsheviks were doesn’t automatically make him our Messiah. It was not my goal to paint Hitler as a model Christian; I just wanted to defend the idea that he wasn’t exactly the Antichrist either.

That’s a fair point. For my own part, I’m not convinced that any historically existing Christian church can claim to have the final word on Christ’s true doctrines — only we individual believers can. Perhaps we should be more interested following Christ rather than following Christianity. I am convinced that the two are not the same thing!

Potocki’s stuff is of interest, but not in the way that Hitler-apologists imply. Far from allowing one to blame Roosevelt for anything, Potocki’s documents only reaffirm that Hitler was at fault.

The thing is that Potocki expresses a lot of critical antagonism towards Roosevelt, Bullitt et alia. He indicates quite a bit of sympathy towards Hitler, right up until March 7, 1939. That was the date of the last transcript as I recall, in the collection of Potocki memos that were published. It is clear from those documents that the Polish government was never influenced by Roosevelt in any way that would have prevented the Poles from capitulating to Hitler’s terms over Danzig. Rather, it was the occupation of Czechia, which Hitler carried out on March 15, 1939, that put an end to Potocki’s sympathetic comments about Hitler and his antagonism towards Roosevelt.

These documents would actually read more in support of what some people try to attribute to them if they had shown Potocki taking a friendly attitude towards Roosevelt. As Potocki’s transcripts read in actuality, it is clear that Roosevelt could never have persuaded the Poles to take a firm stand against Hitler. It was the violation of the Munich Agreement which did that. Not any influence by Roosevelt.

Saying that Bullitt had predicted a war means nothing. Everyone who read Mein Kampf could predict that a war was likely sooner or later. What would be necessary would be to find evidence that the Polish government had contemplated giving Hitler Danzig right after he had marched across Czechia, and that somehow Roosevelt prevented them from doing this. That, obviously, is ridiculous.

It’s fine to simply say that FDR “wanted” a war with Hitler is some sense, but he did nothing to cause the war. Poland refused to deal over Danzig because they saw how Hitler had overrun Czechia, in violation of the Munich Agreement. No one has ever found any evidence that would remotely suggest that the Poles were influenced by FDR in their refusal to give in after March 15, 1939.

FDR surely understood that a war would stimulate the economy and could be a good thing for him. However, something like his speech to “quarantine the aggressors” accomplished nothing. Chamberlain continued with appeasement, and Potocki remained sympathetic towards Hitler. Meanwhile, the US Congress continued to impose restraints on what FDR could do. It was Hitler ripping up the Munich Agreement which changed all of that. FDR simply capitalized on Hitler’s arrogance.

But Irving, at least in his earlier saner incarnations, did not make any of these foolish claims which blame FDR for the outbreak of war.

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Hitler delivered his four-hour secret speech to his C-in-Cs on May 23, 1939, in his lofty study… In many respects, his harangue was no different from the other key speeches of 1938 and 1939 that have since been found: he stated that Danzig was not his ultimate objective — that would be to secure Lebensraum in the east…
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— David Irving, 2013 Focal Point edition of The War Path, p. 208.

Nothing is remotely suggested by Irving about Roosevelt somehow causing the war.

> murdered 50,000 German nationals in the Danzig corridor to provoke a German response.

A straight-up lie. There were pogroms which broke out in Poland starting on September 3 and may have led to the deaths of between 4-5 thousand. But the “50,000” which you give is a pure invention, and this violence began after the German invasion had started on September 1.

You write: “It’s fine to simply say that FDR “wantedâ€� a war with Hitler is some sense, but he did nothing to cause the war.”

My response: This is simply not true.

For a complete response to your statement, I recommend that you read Chapters Two and Four of my book “Germany’s War.” You can read my book for free on this website at https://www.unz.com/book/john_wear__germanys-war/.

> how in the world could anyone have expected Hitler to know of FDR’s role in provoking the war back in May 1939?

The point about Hitler’s documented statements from May 1939 (as well as other times) is not whether or not Hitler did or did not know anything about Roosevelt. The point is that Hitler’s motives for starting a war had nothing to do with anything that Roosevelt could ever have influenced. The war was started because Hitler seeking to expand German living space. He was not concerned Danzig very much at all, except as a pretext for placing his own demands. Similarly, in 1938 had only regarded the Sudetenland as a pretext for what culminated in the occupation of Czechia on March 15, 1939. This was especially important for Hitler because it allowed him to take the Skoda Works and the Czech gold stocks.

Nothing in any of the documents ever published by the Germans provides the slightest evidence to suggest that Poland was ever influenced by Roosevelt into dismissing Hitler’s demands over Danzig. It was the occupation of Czechia which did that. What you would need to do is to come up with some documents which show that even after March 15, 1939, the Polish government was ready to trust Hitler in an agreement over Danzig, but that somehow Roosevelt persuaded them not to. You won’t find anything like that, because it’s not true.

What documents from before the occupation of Czechia on March 15, 1939, show is simply that the Roosevelt administration was expecting that a conflict would eventually break out and was seeking to position itself to benefit when that happened. But those same documents show that people like Jerzy Potocki scoffed at FDR’s overtures, until Hitler occupied Czechia on March 15, 1939. Everything stems from there. Nothing which William Bullitt said in 1938 played any role at all in creating the crisis which broke out after Hitler tore up the Munich Pact.

John T. Flynn was a frustrated ideologue who did not give any careful unbiased consideration to the implications of Hitler marching across Czechia on March 15, 1939. Flynn started as a New Dealer but then veered more towards what we would now call libertarianism. In that context he picked up a strong hostility towards FDR without ever really looking closely at the European events.

> My response: This is simply not true.

It most definitely is. The outbreak of war in 1939 had a very simple cause which you seek to overcomplicate. Hitler had signed the Munich Pact on September 29, 1938, because his own intelligence reports made it clear that the German population was not ready to go to war. He settled for the Sudetenland reluctantly without enthusiasm, and he always intended to go back and seize Czechia once some time had passed. He did that on March 15, 1939, and then he began presenting demands over Danzig which mimicked the routine which he had gone through 6 months earlier over Czechoslovakia. In that context, Poles were not willing to make a deal over Danzig and Britain was not willing to pressure the Poles to make such a deal.

All of this happened outside of FDR’s orbit. He never had the influence to guide things like this. What the record shows is that from 1937 onward, FDR was increasingly hedging his bets on the likelihood that a war would eventually break out in Europe, and this would give him the opportunity to play Dr. Win-the-War. His “quarantine the aggressors” speech was given in this spirit. But it accomplished nothing. Chamberlain went on with appeasement, Poland continued to be friendly with Germany, Republicans in Congress and the Senate continued to impose isolationist restrictions on what FDR could do. That only changed after Hitler had gone far enough to force the change.

You write: “All of this happened outside of FDR’s orbit. He never had the influence to guide things like this.”

My response: Let’s look at some of the factors indicting that FDR wanted the United States to enter World War II.

1. The Polish secret documents reveal that FDR wanted the United States to enter into World War II. Probably the most revealing document in the collection is a secret report dated Jan. 12, 1939, by Jerzy Potocki, the Polish ambassador to the United States. I quote this document in full in Chapter Two of my book.

2. Sir Ronald Lindsay, the British ambassador to Washington, confirmed Roosevelt’s secret policy to instigate war against Germany with the release of a confidential diplomatic report after the war. The report describes a secret meeting on Sept. 18, 1938, between Roosevelt and Ambassador Lindsay. Roosevelt said that if Britain and France were forced into a war against Germany, the United States would ultimately join the war. Roosevelt’s idea to start a war was for Britain and France to impose a blockade against Germany without actually declaring war. The important point was to call it a defensive war based on lofty humanitarian grounds and on the desire to wage hostilities with a minimum of suffering and the least possible loss of life and property. The blockade would provoke some kind of German military response, but would free Britain and France from having to declare war. Roosevelt believed he could then convince the American public to support war against Germany, including shipments of weapons to Britain and France, by insisting that the United States was still neutral in a non-declared conflict.

President Roosevelt told Ambassador Lindsay that if news of their conversation was ever made public, it could mean Roosevelt’s impeachment. What Roosevelt proposed to Lindsay was in effect a scheme to violate the U.S. Constitution by illegally starting a war. For this and other reasons, Ambassador Lindsay stated that during his three years of service in Washington he developed little regard for America’s leaders.

Ambassador Lindsay in a series of final reports also indicated that Roosevelt was delighted at the prospect of a new world war. Roosevelt promised Lindsay that he would delay German ships under false pretenses in a feigned search for arms. This would allow the German ships to be easily seized by the British under circumstances arranged with exactitude between the American and British authorities. Lindsay reported that Roosevelt “spoke in a tone of almost impish glee and though I may be wrong the whole business gave me the impression of resembling a school-boy prank.�

Ambassador Lindsay was personally perturbed that the President of the United States could be gay and joyful about a pending tragedy which seemed so destructive of the hopes of all mankind. It was unfortunate at this important juncture that the United States had a president whose emotions and ideas were regarded by a friendly British ambassador as being childish. (Source: Hoggan, David L., The Forced War: When Peaceful Revision Failed, Costa Mesa, CA: Institute for Historical Review, 1989, pp. 518-519).

3. William Phillips, the American Ambassador to Italy, also stated in his postwar memoirs that the Roosevelt administration in late 1938 was committed to going to war on the side of Britain and France. Phillips wrote: “On this and many other occasions, I would have liked to have told him [Count Ciano, the Italian Foreign Minister] frankly that in the event of a European war, the United States would undoubtedly be involved on the side of the Allies. But in view of my official position, I could not properly make such a statement without instructions from Washington, and these I never received.� (Source: Phillips, William, Ventures in Diplomacy, North Beverly, MA: privately published, 1952, pp. 220-221).

4. When Anthony Eden returned to England in December 1938, he carried with him an assurance from President Roosevelt that the United States would enter as soon as practicable a European war against Hitler if the occasion arose. This information was obtained by Sen. William Borah of Idaho, who was debating how and when to give out this information when he dropped dead in his bathroom. The story was confirmed to historian Harry Elmer Barnes by some of Sen. Borah’s closest colleagues at the time. (Source: Barnes, Harry Elmer, Barnes Against the Blackout, Costa Mesa, CA: Institute for Historical Review, 1991, p. 208).

5. The American Ambassador to Poland, Anthony Drexel Biddle, was an ideological colleague of President Roosevelt and a good friend of William Bullitt. Roosevelt used Biddle to influence the Polish government not to enter into negotiations with Germany. Carl J. Burckhardt, the League of Nations High Commissioner to Danzig, reported in his postwar memoirs on a memorable conversation he had with Biddle. On Dec. 2, 1938, Biddle told Burckhardt with remarkable satisfaction that the Poles were ready to wage war over Danzig. Biddle predicted that in April a new crisis would develop, and that moderate British and French leaders would be blown away by public opinion. Biddle predicted a holy war against Germany would break out. (Source: Burckhardt, Carl, Meine Danziger Mission 1937-1939, Munich: Callwey, 1960, p. 225).

6. Dr. Edvard Beneš, the former President of Czechoslovakia, wrote in his memoirs that he had a lengthy secret conversation at Hyde Park with President Roosevelt on May 28, 1939. Roosevelt assured Dr. Beneš that the United States would actively intervene on the side of Great Britain and France against Germany in the anticipated European war. (Source: Beneš, Edvard, Memoirs of Dr. Edvard Beneš, London: George Allen & Unwin, 1954, pp. 79-80).

7. American newspaper columnist Karl von Wiegand, who was the chief European newspaper columnist of the International News Service, met with Ambassador William Bullitt at the U.S. embassy in Paris on April 25, 1939. More than four months before the outbreak of war, Bullitt told Wiegand: “War in Europe has been decided upon. Poland has the assurance of the support of Britain and France, and will yield to no demands from Germany. America will be in the war soon after Britain and France enter it.� (Source: “Von Wiegand Says-,� Chicago-Herald American, Oct. 8, 1944, p. 2).

8. Roosevelt also attempted to arm Poland so that Poland would be more willing to go to war against Germany. Ambassador Bullitt reported from Paris in a confidential telegram to Washington on April 9, 1939, his conversation with Polish Ambassador �ukasiewicz. Bullitt told �ukasiewicz that although U.S. law prohibited direct financial aid to Poland, the Roosevelt administration might be able to supply war planes to Poland indirectly through Britain. Bullitt stated: “The Polish Ambassador asked me if it might not be possible for Poland to obtain financial help and airplanes from the United States. I replied that I believed the Johnson Act would forbid any loans from the United States to Poland, but added that it might be possible for England to purchase planes for cash in the United States and turn them over to Poland.� (Source: U.S. Department of State, Foreign Relations of the United States (Diplomatic Papers), 1939, General, Vol. I, Washington: 1956, p. 122).

9. Bullitt also attempted to bypass the Neutrality Act and supply France with airplanes. A secret conference of Ambassador Bullitt with French Premier Daladier and the French Minister of Aviation, Guy La Chambre, discussed the procurement of airplanes from America for France. Bullitt, who was in frequent telephonic conversation with Roosevelt, suggested a means by which the Neutrality Act could be circumvented in the event of war. Bullitt’s suggestion was to set up assembly plants in Canada, apparently on the assumption that Canada would not be a formal belligerent in the war. Bullitt also arranged for a secret French mission to come to the United States and purchase airplanes in the winter of 1938-1939. The secret purchase of American airplanes by the French leaked out when a French aviator crashed on the West Coast. (Source: Chamberlain, William Henry, America’s Second Crusade, Chicago: Regnery, 1950, pp. 101-102).

10. On Aug. 23, 1939, Sir Horace Wilson, Chamberlain’s closest advisor, went to American Ambassador Joseph Kennedy with an urgent appeal from Chamberlain to President Roosevelt. Regretting that Britain had unequivocally obligated itself to Poland in case of war, Chamberlain now turned to Roosevelt as a last hope for peace. Kennedy telephoned the State Department and stated: “The British want one thing from us and one thing only, namely that we put pressure on the Poles. They felt that they could not, given their obligations, do anything of this sort but that we could.�

Presented with a possibility to save the peace in Europe, President Roosevelt rejected Chamberlain’s desperate plea out of hand. With Roosevelt’s rejection, Kennedy reported, British Prime Minister Chamberlain lost all hope. Chamberlain stated: “The futility of it all is the thing that is frightful. After all, we cannot save the Poles. We can merely carry on a war of revenge that will mean the destruction of all Europe.�

There is a lot more I could write on this subject. This is enough for now.

John T. Flynn was a frustrated ideologue who did not give any careful unbiased consideration to the implications of Hitler marching across Czechia on March 15, 1939.

From your answer, I’m not sure you have read Flynn’s January 5, 1938 column. It cannot be Ron Unz’s source for his statement of an alleged Roosevelt shift of focus to Germany. Flynn is talking only about the China-Japan war and a possible American involvement in it.
Anyway, I’m posting a link to that article for anyone interested.
https://archive.org/details/sim_new-republic_1938-01-05_93_1205/page/254/mode/2up?view=theater

Here’s Ron Unz’s original reference to Flynn:
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-great-purge-of-the-1940s/#p_1_19

Listen to your typical Jew arrogance. No moron it’s not “James Bond� stuff, it’s international war crimes you stupid kike. You blood sucking Jews have no problems committing mass murder, mass financial fraud and mass misinformation to protect your evil history. It’s who you are. The rest of us would rather live our lives in peace without evil kikes trying to fuck us at every turn. History will repeat and Just as Mr. Unz predicts, you evil kikes are going to pay! The ONLY reason you haven’t been exterminated is not enough people know how evil you are as kikes like you try ti lie and harass those who do! See ya, wouldn’t want to be ya!

> Let’s look at some of the factors indicting that FDR wanted the United States to enter World War II.

I’m not aware that there is any dispute over FDR’s desire that a suitable stage the US should enter World War II. Even many pro-FDR authors will readily grant that. Likewise, there is no dispute at all about the fact that Hitler’s central ambition since at least the early 1920s was to conquer living space in eastern Europe that would allow him to expand the population of Aryan Herrenvolk by driving the Slavic Untermensch out. Which was more germane to the actual outbreak of war in 1939?

A point made resoundingly many times over by both historians and some Hitler-apologists is that Hitler was not deliberately seeking to start a global war in the early days of 1939. That much is well-accepted by, say, Richard Overy, Origins of the Second World War:

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… the evidence surrounding the Polish crisis makes it clear that this was supposed to be the successful small war that he was denied the year before. He was convinced that Poland could be isolated, and made no serious military preparations for any campaign against the west… The existing evidence is much more consistent with the idea that Poland was to be subjugated by a short, sharp campaign or, if the Polish government abandoned resistance, be drawn fully into the German orbit.
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–Overy, Origins, p. 77.

The fact remains that it was entirely the actions of Hitler which set off the war, beginning with the occupation of Czechia on March 15, 1939. The records left over by Potocki is interesting enough but does not support what Hitler-apologists have tried to attribute to it. Those documents show that right up until March 7, 1939, Potocki was scathingly hostile towards Roosevelt and sympathetic towards Hitler.

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Bullitt was said to have informed Count Jerzy Potocki, the Polish Ambassador to the United States, that “America is ready to place its entire resources in the way of finances and raw materials at their disposal…” … There was one document, which Count Potocki was supposed to have written, describing American public opinion: it couldn’t have been more anti-Semitic if Dr. Goebbels had written it himself. It described Mr. Roosevelt as the puppet of wealthy Jews like Henry Morgenthau, Jr., and Bernard M. Baruch.
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— Harold Lavine & James Wechsler, War Propaganda and the United States, pp. 258-9, 261.

All that such documents show is that Hitler missed a great chance for being pals with Potocki when he invaded Czechia. Such documents do not at all imply that the crisis in Europe was created by Roosevelt. They show rather that Potocki scoffed at Roosevelt until March 15, 1939. Once Hitler had occupied Czechia, the Poles began take the idea of a German threat seriously, not because of anything Roosevelt ever said, but because of what Hitler did in real practice.

You’re a foolish ideologue. John Flynn mostly wrote about Pearl Harbor. He wrote a lot of general comments drawing analogies between the New Deal and fascism, some of which would be agreed with by others. But he never really much of a detailed analysis of the foreign relations in Europe.

For the kind of lunacy which you’re trying to sell here, what you would need to do is find documents which show Polish officials reacting to Hitler’s occupation of Czechia on March 15, 1939, with dialogue something like:

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Oh, well, I’m sure that we can still work something over Danzig with Hitler, even though he just shredded the Munich Agreement which he had signed less than 6 months ago. Yeah, we’ll make a good treaty with him. What?!?! You say that Roosevelt doesn’t want us to deal with Hitler?!?! Oh, well that’s different then! We won’t deal with Hitler over Danzig if Roosevelt doesn’t want it!
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That’s the kind of delusion which you’re conjuring up here. The reality was that no in the Polish government cared about what Roosevelt said or thought, until Hitler occupied Czechia. Hitler’s occupation of Czechia had nothing to do with any wrongs from the Versailles Treaty. It was a step in his drive to the east for living space, where the next door to go through was Poland. That was what determined the Polish response, not anything that Roosevelt ever did.

John Flynn became a bit too overwrought in his antagonism towards Roosevelt, but he doesn’t seem to have ever actually made any detailed study of the record of foreign relations in Europe that led up to war in 1939. His most lengthy pieces were devoted towards either Pearl Harbor or to developing analogies between the New Deal and fascism. But very little that he wrote really covers Hitler’s aims of first rolling over Czechoslovakia and then absorbing Poland, whether as an outright colony or as a satellite state, as a preliminary for the final drive to the east that would conquer living space in Russia. Flynn simply doesn’t have much knowledge of the subject.

Saying ‘nazi’ is for jews, children, blue-hairs and credulous cunts.

You write: “Likewise, there is no dispute at all about the fact that Hitler’s central ambition since at least the early 1920s was to conquer living space in eastern Europe that would allow him to expand the population of Aryan Herrenvolk by driving the Slavic Untermensch out. ”

My response: I dispute this. Hitler made a brief comment in Mein Kampf that is often quoted, but I do not think he was intending to conquer the Soviet Union or the rest of eastern Europe.

You write: “The fact remains that it was entirely the actions of Hitler which set off the war, beginning with the occupation of Czechia on March 15, 1939.”

My response: It was not entirely the actions of Hitler and the occupation of Czechia on March 15, 1939, that set off the war. You can read Chapter Three of my book for more detailed information.

You write that a document incorrectly described “Mr. Roosevelt as the puppet of wealthy Jews like Henry Morgenthau, Jr., and Bernard M. Baruch.”

My response: Hitler and the Polish ambassador were correct that U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt was surrounded by numerous Jewish advisors. Jewish historian Lucy Dawidowicz wrote, “Roosevelt himself brought into his immediate circle more Jews than any other president before or after him.�

Hungarian Louis Marschalko and other researchers have listed the Jewish advisors to Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR) as follows:

1. Bernard M. Baruch — A financier and advisor to FDR.
2. Felix Frankfurter — Supreme Court Justice; a key player in FDR’s New Deal system.
3. David E. Lilienthal — Director of Tennessee Valley Authority, advisor. The TVA changed the relationship of government-to-business in America.
4. David Niles — Presidential aide.
5. Louis Brandeis — U.S. Supreme Court Justice; confidant of FDR; “Fatherâ€� of New Deal.
6. Samuel I. Rosenman — Official speechwriter for FDR.
7. Henry Morgenthau Jr. — Secretary of the Treasury, “unofficialâ€� presidential advisor. Father of the Morgenthau Plan to restructure Germany/Europe after WWII.
8. Benjamin V. Cohen — State Department official, advisor to FDR.
9. Rabbi Stephen Wise — Close friend of FDR, spokesman for the American Zionist movement, head of The American Jewish Congress.
10. Adolph J. Sabath—An avid New Dealer, Zionist, and interventionist who strongly supported war against National Socialist Germany.
11. Sidney Hillman — Presidential advisor.
12. Anna Rosenberg — Longtime labor advisor to FDR, and manpower advisor with the Manpower Consulting Committee of the Army and Navy Munitions Board and the War Manpower Commission.
13. Herbert H. Lehman — Governor of New York, 1933-1942, Director of U.S. Office of Foreign Relief and Rehabilitation Operations, Department of State, 1942-1943; Director-General of UNRRA, 1944-1946, friend of FDR.
14. Herbert Feis — U.S. State Department official, economist, and an advisor on international economic affairs.
15. R. S. Hecht — Financial advisor to FDR.
16. Nathan Margold — Department of the Interior Solicitor, legal advisor.
17. Jesse I. Straus — Advisor to FDR.
18. H. J. Laski – “Unofficial foreign advisor� to FDR.
19. Emanuel A. Goldenweiser — Federal Reserve Director.
20. Charles E. Wyzanski — U.S. Labor department legal advisor.
21. Samuel Untermyer — Lawyer, “unofficial public ownership advisorâ€� to FDR.
22. Jacob Viner — Tax expert at the U.S. Treasury Department, assistant to the Treasury Secretary.
23. Edward Filene — Businessman, philanthropist, unofficial presidential advisor.
24. David Dubinsky — Labor leader, president of International Ladies Garment Workers Union.
25. William C. Bullitt — Part-Jewish, ambassador to USSR [is claimed to be Jonathan Horwitz’s grandson; unconfirmed].
26. Mordecai Ezekiel — Agriculture Department economist.
27. Abe Fortas — Assistant director of Securities and Exchange Commission, Department of the Interior Undersecretary.
28. Isador Lubin — Commissioner of Labor Statistics, unofficial labor economist to FDR.
29. Harry Dexter White [Weiss] — Assistant Secretary of the Treasury; a key founder of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank; advisor, close friend of Henry Morgenthau. Cowrote the Morgenthau Plan.
30. Robert Moses – Held numerous New York public offices; instituted centralization in New York state government which was later used as a model for FDR’s New Deal.
31. David Weintraub — Official in the Office of Foreign Relief and Rehabilitation Operations; helped create the United Nations; Secretary, Committee on Supplies, 1944-1946.
32. Nathan Gregory Silvermaster — Agriculture Department official and head of the Near East Division of the Board of Economic Warfare; helped create the United Nations.
33. Harold Glasser — Treasury Department director of the division of monetary research. Treasury spokesman on the affairs of United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration.
34. Irving Kaplan — U.S. Treasury Department official, friend of David Weintraub.
35. Solomon Adler — Treasury Department representative in China during World War II.
36. Benjamin Cardozo — U.S. Supreme Court Justice.
37. Leo Wolman — Chairman of the National Recovery Administration’s Labor advisory Board; labor economist.
38. Rose Schneiderman — Labor organizer; on the advisory board of the National Recovery Administration.
39. Jerome Frank — General counsel to the Agricultural Adjustment Administration, Justice, U.S. Court of Appeals, 1941-1957.
40. Gerard Swope — Key player in the creation of the N.R.A. [National Recovery Administration].
41. Herbert Bayard Swope — Brother of Gerard Swope.
42. James M. Landis – Member of the Federal Trade Commission; member and later chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission.
43. J. David Stern — Federal Reserve Board member, appointed by FDR.
44. Nathan Straus — Housing advisor.
45. Charles Michaelson — Democratic [DNC] publicity man.
46. Lawrence Steinhardt — Ambassador to the Soviet Union.
47. Harry Guggenheim — Heir to Guggenheim fortune, advisor on aviation.
48. Arthur Garfield Hays — Advisor on civil liberties.
49. David Lasser — Head of Worker’s Alliance, labor activist.
50. Max Zaritsky — Labor advisor.
51. James Warburg — Millionaire, his father helped establish the Federal Reserve System; early supporter of the New Deal before backing out.
52. Louis Kirstein — Associate of E. Filene.
53. Charles Wyzanski, Jr. — Counsel, Dept. of Labor.
54. Charles Taussig — Early New Deal advisor.
55. Jacob Baker — Assistant to W.P.A. head Harry Hopkins; assistant head of W.P.A. [Works Progress Administration].
56. Louis H. Bean — Dept. of Agriculture official.
57. Abraham Fox — Research director, Tariff Commission.
58. Benedict Wolf — National Labor Relations Board [NLRB].
59. William Leiserson – NLRB.
60. David J. Saposs – NLRB.
61. A. H. Meyers — NLRB [New England division].
62. L. H. Seltzer — Head economist at the Treasury Dept.
63. Edward Berman — Dept. of Labor official.
64. Jacob Perlman — Dept. of Labor official.
65. Morris L. Jacobson — Chief statistician of the Government Research Project.
66. Jack Levin — Assistant general manager, Rural Electrification Authority.
67. Harold Loeb — Economic consultant, N.R.P.
68. William Seagle — Council, Petroleum Labor Policy Board.
69. Herman A. Gray — Policy committee, National Housing Conference.
70. Alexander Sachs — Rep. of Lehman Brothers, early New Deal consultant.
71. Paul Mazur — Rep. of Lehman Brothers, early consultant for New Deal.
72. Henry Alsberg — Head of the Writer’s Project under the W.P.A.
73. Lincoln Rothschild — New Deal art administrator.
74. Sol Rosenblatt – Administrator of the NRA’s division on amusement and
transportation codes.

Marschalko wrote about this hidden Jewish power:

“A hidden power, able to keep under its control a country of 150 million people, governing from key positions from its brain trust and from behind the presidential chair, is a terrible thing to contemplate. But Roosevelt required the help of this far-reaching and omnipotent power in order to involve America in the Second World War.” (Source: Marschalko, Louis, The World Conquerors: The Real War Criminals, Omnia Veritas Ltd., p. 97).

You write: “Once Hitler had occupied Czechia, the Poles began take the idea of a German threat seriously, not because of anything Roosevelt ever said, but because of what Hitler did in real practice.”

My response: Poland threatened Germany with a partial mobilization of her forces on March 23, 1939. Hundreds of thousands of Polish Army reservists were mobilized, and Hitler was warned that Poland would fight to prevent the return of Danzig to Germany. The Poles were surprised to discover that Germany did not take this challenge seriously. Hitler, who deeply desired friendship with Poland, refrained from responding to the Polish threat of war. Germany did not threaten Poland and took no precautionary military measures in response to the Polish partial mobilization. (Source: Hoggan, David L., The Forced War: When Peaceful Revision Failed, Costa Mesa, CA: Institute for Historical Review, 1989, pp. 311-312).

So, Poland began to threaten Germany, but at this point Germany did not take the Polish threat seriously.

Polish Foreign Minister Józef Beck accepted an offer from Great Britain on March 30, 1939, that gave an unconditional unilateral guarantee of Poland’s independence. The British Empire agreed to go to war as an ally of Poland if the Poles decided that war was necessary. In words drafted by Halifax, Chamberlain spoke in the House of Commons on March 31, 1939, declaring:

“I now have to inform the House…that in the event of any action which clearly threatened Polish independence and which the Polish Government accordingly considered it vital to resist with their national forces, His Majesty’s Government would feel themselves bound at once to lend the Polish Government all support in their power. They have given the Polish Government an assurance to that effect.” (Sources: Barnett, Correlli, The Collapse of British Power, New York: William Morrow, 1972, p. 560; see also Taylor, A.J.P., The Origins of the Second World War, New York: Simon & Schuster, 1961, p. 211).

Hitler regarded a German-Polish agreement as a highly welcome alternative to a German-Polish war. However, no further negotiations for a German-Polish agreement occurred after the British guarantee to Poland for the simple reason that Józef Beck refused to negotiate. Beck ignored repeated German suggestions for further negotiations. Beck knew perfectly well that British Foreign Minister Halifax hoped to accomplish the complete destruction of Germany. Halifax had considered an Anglo-German war inevitable since 1936, and Britain’s anti-German policy was made public with Chamberlain’s speech on March 17, 1939. Halifax discouraged German-Polish negotiations because he was counting on Poland to provide the pretext for a British preventive war against Germany. (Source: Hoggan, David L., The Forced War: When Peaceful Revision Failed, Costa Mesa, CA: Institute for Historical Review, 1989, pp. 355, 357).

The Germans in Poland were subjected to increasing doses of violence from the dominant Poles. The British public was told repeatedly that the grievances of the German minority in Poland were largely imaginary. The average British citizen was completely unaware of the terror and fear of death that stalked these Germans in Poland. Ultimately, many thousands of Germans in Poland paid for the crisis with their lives. They were among the first victims of Halifax’s war policy against Germany. (Source: Ibid., p. 387).

You can read Chapter Three of my book for more detailed information.

Halifax had considered an Anglo-German war inevitable since 1936, and Britain’s anti-German policy was made public with Chamberlain’s speech on March 17, 1939.

Then why did Chamberlain and Halifax engage in secret talks with Germany to resolve their disputes in July and August 1939?

“…The industrialist Lord Aberconway, longtime chairman of both John Brown, the Clydeside shipbuilding firm, and English China Clays, and also a master-gardener, has died aged 89. Three years ago, he belatedly unburdened himself of a 60-year-old guilty secret.

He told the Tory historian Andrew Roberts that, as a 26-year-old, he had been one of seven British businessmen dispatched secretly by Neville Chamberlain’s pro-appeasement government to try to stop an Anglo-German war over Poland.

Three weeks before the war the seven made their separate ways to the island of Sylt off the German coast, to meet Reichsmarschall Hermann Goering. Their purpose was to offer a “second Munich� – a four-power agreement involving Britain, Germany, France and Italy – to make further concessions to German demands for lebensraum, on condition that the Nazis did not invade Poland.

This offer, authorised by the leading appeaser, Chamberlain’s Foreign Secretary Lord Halifax, came as a shock to Halifax’s biographer Roberts, who had not found any reference to this last-minute offer in either Foreign Office documents or Halifax’s private papers. Aberconway backed his claims by showing Roberts 38 pages of documents…�

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2003/feb/06/guardianobituaries.obituaries

“…The efforts of the Chamberlain group to continue the policy of appeasement by making economic and other concessions to Germany and their efforts to get Hitler to agree to a four-power pact form one of the most shameful episodes in the history of recent British diplomacy. These negotiations were chiefly conducted through Sir Horace Wilson and consisted chiefly of offers of colonial bribes and other concessions to Germany. These offers were either rejected or ignored by the Nazis…

https://web.archive.org/web/20221029210347/http://www.yamaguchy.com/library/quigley/anglo_12b.html

Thanks, that clarifies the source for the “top adviser” bit, which doesn’t appear in the column.

> Hitler made a brief comment in Mein Kampf

He made many programmatic statements about this, whether in Mein Kampf, the Second Book or multiple speeches and memos. The idea of acquiring living space for the Aryan race was a central aim of his career. David Irving certainly disputed this during the high points of his career.

> It was not entirely the actions of Hitler and the occupation of Czechia on March 15, 1939, that set off the war.

What the occupation of Czechia signified was that a replay of Munich over Danzig was now impossible. Anyone who watched how events played out in Czechoslovakia from September 29, 1937, to March 15, 1939, would have figured “Sure, now if we sign a similar agreement over Danzig on March 23, then by September 9 we can expect to see German forces roll towards Warsaw.” It would have been impossible for Chamberlain to tell Poland to accept such an agreement.

> Hitler and the Polish ambassador were correct that U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt was surrounded by numerous Jewish advisors.

None of whom played any role at all in deciding Poland’s government against trying to reduplicate the Munich Agreement with Danzig now playing the part of the Sudetenland. It was Hitler’s t of Czechia which determined that.

> Poland threatened Germany with a partial mobilization of her forces on March 23, 1939.

So what? This was after German troops had occupied Czechia. It was a purely defensive move. Does Hoggan try claiming that Poland was planning to initiate a war by attacking Germany? They couldn’t do that, since British support depended on the contrary.

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I have the impression that Herr Hitler is still undecided, and anxious to avoid war and to hold his hand if he can do so without losing face. As there is a possibility of him not forcing the issue, it is evidently essential to give him no excuse for acting, whether or not conversations about Danzig at some future time may be possible.
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— Viscount Halifax to Sir H. Kennard (Warsaw), August 15, 1939, Documents Concerning German-Polish Relations and the Outbreak of Hostilities Between Great Britain and Germany on September 3, 1939, p. 92.

Even Roosevelt counseled Poland not to start any fighting.

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With this in mind I feel justified in suggesting that certain possible avenues of solution be considered…

First, by direct negotiation;

Second, by the submission of these controversies to an impartial arbitration in which they can both have confidence; or

Third, that they agree to the solution of these controversies through the procedure of conciliation, selecting as a conciliator or moderator a national of one of the American Republics, which are all of them free from any connexion with, or participation in, European political affairs…

Should you determine to attempt a solution by any of these methods you are assured of the earnest and complete sympathy of the United States and of their people. During exploration of the avenues I appeal to you, as I have likewise appealed to the Government of the German Reich, to agree to refrain from any positive act of hostility.
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— Roosevelt to the President of Poland, August 24, 1939, ibid, pp. 183-4.

No one on the Allied side had any illusions that they could get their own publics to support a war which Poland initiated against Germany. They knew very well that they had let Hitler make the first move. Any partial mobilization by the Polish forces after March 15, 1939, was simply to insure that they did not end up like Czechia.

> Flynn is informing his shocked and disbelieving TNR readers that FDR is planning to embroil our country in a major foreign war for political/economic reasons and will massively ramp-up military spending

And in a sufficiently broad generic sense, that statement was undoubtedly true. Of course, as Ian Kershaw documents in Hitler: 1889-1936 Hubris, the decision by Hitler to occupy the Rhine region in 1936 was also very much influenced by economic troubles in Germany. Food shortages and price inflations were hitting, and Hjalmar Schacht was insisting that German rearmament had gone far enough and now Germany needed to develop foreign trade. Hitler rejected Schacht’s emphasis on developing an export industry and maintained that Germany needed to be preparing to take the living space in the east. But he was increasingly pressured to produce quick results. That led to a chain of increasing confrontations in 1936-9.

But not many people would dispute that Roosevelt benefited from the demands created by a war, and was likely thinking along such lines in 1937 when he gave his “quarantine the aggressors” speech. The reality remains that Poland did not refuse to repeat the Munich deal over Danzig because of anything that Roosevelt said. They refused this because they saw how Czechoslovakia ended up after March 1939.

Columnist John T. Flynn’s “powerful evidence� (‘Other People’s Money’ New Republic 5 Jan 1938):

“I believe the President is pursuing an aggressive, provocative course directly opposite to that desired by the American people. I believe that if he is permitted to continue he will embroil this country in war…�

Twenty-four days earlier Imperial Japan sank the USS Panay and three other American ships (12 Dec 1937). Code decrypts proved it a deliberate act. Embarked on conquest from 1931, Japan lately butchered ±250,000 in the Battle of Shanghai (13 Aug – 26 Nov 1937). It raped and slaughtered tens of thousands more at Nanking, before intentionally attacking clearly marked American vessels, strafing lifeboats, killing five, wounding forty-eight. Flynn’s reaction? Blame FDR. He continues with four “absolutely trueâ€� statements “no one will believeâ€�:

1. “The President is preparing to lead the country into a vast program of armament as a means of spending money to avert another depression – houses for the dogs of war rather than the mutts of peace.�
2. “He is preparing deliberately to sell to this country a war scare as a prelude to the armament program.�
3. “He is attempting to shift the psychological reactions of the nation to the patriotic motif in order to distract attention from the disintegrating domestic situation.�
4. “One reason for this is to build up the attitude embodied in the slogan “Stand by the President…�

Flynn doesn’t question, let alone explain, Imperial Japan’s attack on the Panay or the killing of hundreds of thousands. He doesn’t mention the Axis terror-bombing of Madrid (23-24 Oct & 19-23 Nov 1936), Durango (31 May 1937) or Guernica (26 April 1937), another conflict claiming hundreds of thousands. His opinion – which “no one had ever noticed…beforeâ€�- is a banal isolationist op-ed. “Powerful evidenceâ€� of how deep in sand a columnist can bury his head.

A decade later ‘The Roosevelt Myth’ (July 1948) revealed one of FDR’s “most intimate advisersâ€� anticipated war with Japan. Hardly surprising: for all practical purposes it began with the sinking of the Panay in 1937. Still, four more years elapsed before Pearl Harbor. FDR’s budgets didn’t solve “insurmountable economic problems,â€� especially when compared to Axis military spending and ambition – subjects Flynn carefully avoids.

The Wehrmacht rocketed to 4,722,000 men in 1939, while the US military totaled 334,000. German rearmament grew from 1.5% of national income in 1933 to 21.0% in 1938, income having doubled during the same period. The spending frenzy forced dissident Hjarmar Schacht’s resignation [26 Nov 1937]. Though plunder taken in Anschluß, Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia and Memel temporarily postponed war, by September 1939 nothing else would do.

Flynn may have been “one of America’s most influential progressive columnistsâ€�, but FDR won the 1940 election by 10 points, won again four years later. Seems Flynn wasn’t very influential after all. Certainly ‘The Roosevelt Myth’- smugly self-described as “a critical account of that episode in American politics known as the New Dealâ€� – does little to boost his standing, save in fatuous sanctimony. He went on to avidly support Joseph McCarthy.

Unz: “I then cited the statements of all the leading Polish, British, and American diplomats, drawn from their secret reports and later memoirs…�

Surely German and Italian sources are more fruitful. They candidly record Hitler’s unshakable resolve for war, served by peace terms never seriously intended, published hours before invasion.

Unz: “it was FDR’s enormous pressure on Poland and Britain during 1939 that prevented a peaceful resolution of the Polish-German boundary dispute, thereby leading to the outbreak of World War II.�

Absolute Nonsense. One person ordered troops into Poland, and it wasn’t FDR.

War with Britain and France was a disappointment for Hitler, but not a surprise: he ordered the Kriegsmarine to British sea lanes 19 August, 13 days before invasion. Hence U-30’s sinking of the passenger liner SS Athenia without warning, killing 128 civilians (including 28 Americans and 54 Canadians), hours after the declaration of war 3 September. Doubtless Flynn blamed FDR.