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I’ve been mostly preoccupied with various things, but here are a couple of recent podcasts I had done in the wake of the election that I should have highlighted much earlier.

First, here’s a very long two and a half hour discussion I had in November with Danish Nationalist Fróði Midjord on his Guide to Kulchur show, along with Guillaume Durocher:

Video Link

*https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ui07FpdKrpeX

And here’s an hour long show with Kevin Barrett of Truth Jihad around the same time:

*https://www.unz.com/CONTENTS/AUDIO/kbarrett/KB-TJ_2020_1112_unz_web.mp3

In both cases, free speech issues, the American presidential election, and various “conspiracy theories” were prominent topics of discussion.

•�Category: Ideology •�Tags: 2020 Election, Conspiracy Theories, Covid, Vote Fraud
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  1. German_reader says:

    Podcasts are a degenerate medium for people who can’t read. I guess you can’t do anything about that Guide to Kulchur show because it isn’t hosted here, but please force Kevin Barrett to provide a transcript or kick that lazy bum off the site.

  2. Remo361 says:

    This guest cannot understand basic statistics and is grossly ignorant of even recent history. Closed polls in all the battleground states THEN suddenly Biden got exactly enough votes to win… And yes this was so obvious that they couldn’t cover it up. This guy is a complete moron.

  3. There was a mention to Japan, but no real data were provided, so I thought this article might be of interest to some people:

    https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Japan-immigration/Japan-immigration-hits-record-high-as-foreign-talent-fills-gaps

    •�Thanks: Dieter Kief
  4. Richard B says:
    @German_reader

    Podcasts are a degenerate medium for people who can’t read.

    Though your point is well taken, I wouldn’t go that far. A podcast is very much worth listening to if it’s well organized by time and category, as is the case with John Derbyshire. Besides, it humanizes things that much more by giving readers a chance to hear the voice behind the writing. So, why not?

    …but please force Kevin Barrett to provide a transcript or kick that lazy bum off the site.

    Another poínt well taken, and in this case, yeah, I would go that far. Simply because the contrast between this excellent website (in my view the best in the history of the Internet) and Kevin’s articles is just too glaring. Each of Kevin’s articles is its own tutorial on How Not To Write. Though, of course, he thinks he’s doing something else.

    Still, it does have to be said, that one possible benefit is that his articles prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that bad writing comes from bad thinking. So, there’s that.

    In any event, the main point is that what we have with TUR is a Free Speech Forum of the highest rank. Considering human nature and its history, one has to be grateful for that. Especially during times like these.

    •�Agree: Wizard of Oz
    •�Replies: @European-American
  5. Anon[350] •�Disclaimer says:

    @german reader
    Nonsense. Don’t like it? leave.

    •�Agree: Biff
  6. Thanks! This is is a thought-provoking podcast.

    A transcript would be helpful, so we can easily quote you.

  7. I’m German, too – but I don’t read, while driving.

    •�Replies: @Fluesterwitz
    , @Dieter Kief
  8. BuelahMan says:

    I quit listening to Barrett because of his incessant muslim praising and ignoring the evilness contained therein. When I became aware of penalties for disparaging Muslim belief, I started questioning his motive for the non-stop muslim protection.

    •�Agree: Irish Savant
    •�Replies: @German_reader
  9. Cohen says:

    If Talmudist can call anyone anti Semite, anyone who dares to challenge their lies so what is the big deal of about Kevin speaking out for Muslims. Because these AAAAAs Ho Muslims in ME GOV. dont have the guts to stand up and keep acting like poodles while the rest of the world is laughing at their stupidity. It is refreshing that people are waking up after a long hangover of cool aid of Holocaust, the chosen people narrative (no evidence yet), perpetual victim hood, and self delusion of being Master Race (Einstein and Freud and others) participating in Master race conference in 1923/1926 in Vienna. Hope there are more like Kevin who could speak out.

  10. German_reader says:
    @BuelahMan

    Barrett is a convert to Islam, that’s why he’s constantly praising it.

    •�Replies: @Cohen
  11. @German_reader

    I’m sorry you haven’t discovered the advantage of listening to podcasts in your car,when out for awalk , when lying down with tired eyes, or simply as a way of catching up on radio programs you would listened to live.

  12. Cohen says:
    @German_reader

    You remind me of a Cryptic Jew who changes his/hers identity for long term goals. Changing names for the cryptos is a peace of cake. You go to Latin Americas and find all those Lopes, Herreras and alike are shinning examples.
    You know well you are not German and most likely a unpaid member of radical ADL organization whose active members go to Jewish cemeteries and deface the head stones to blame Anti Semites or sometime send threatening letters to bomb the Jewish Synagogues.

    Now. Let us see if you have the guts to answer some of the unanswered questions so far! From now on I will keep pasting the following questions whenever I see your name under any kind of comments until you address these questions. How does it feel. Get ready

    [MORE]

    1. Where is the Beef? What happened to Elie Wiesel’s Tattoos. Magically disappeared.
    2. Where did you guys got 6 million magic number? Check this site in comments section -such numbers were floating since 1915-1938 in Jewish News papers like New York Time.
    3. Why the Auschwitz lowered the numbers of dead from 4-5 or whatever to recent 1.1 million. Are they anti Semites?
    4. Where did German get the fuel to burn all those millions of victims. First allegation was they used Diesel to generate carbon monoxide (from a captured Russian Tank), then changed to steam usage, then using Zyclone-B. So which one is the method used to max. damage?
    5. Why Germans provided facilities like post office, swimming pools, Theater, children play ground? In a concentration camp? Conspiracy theory? May be?
    These are few question you have to answer and I will follow up with Elie Wiesel’s tattoo story until answered.
    WHERE IS THE BEEF? WHERE IS THE BEEF? Bring back Clara…. Where is the beef.
  13. Cohen says:
    @German_reader

    At least Barrett made a conscious decision for his conversion unlike you who was brought up with daily brain washing of being chosen people, of master race promoting inner breeding, hate for Christians (Talmud calls them animals) and everyone is after you guys, victim hood.

    So Where is the beef? What happened to Elie Wiesel’s Tattoos?

  14. George says:

    Your comments on regulating tech companies misses the point. Censorship is not the issue common carrier is. Common carrier laws have existed since ancient times and the basically say people can only be censored by the government. The telecommunications act of 1996 needs to be updated, that’s all. YouTube, imo, has a right to censor people. My personal problem is when Microsoft Azure, a programing tool, censors content.

    In addition to common carrier law contract law

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_carrier
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecommunications_Act_of_1996

    Gab user deletes anti-Semitic content after Microsoft Azure threatened to shut down the site
    https://www.geekwire.com/2018/gab-user-deletes-anti-semitic-content-microsoft-azure-threatened-shut-site/

    •�Replies: @freedom-cat
  15. @German_listener

    I don’t read, while driving

    Glad to hear it. Listening to a podcast while driving can be convenient because you, I hope, concentrate on the driving part. A podcast at best is like listening to an interesting conversation; actually reading a text takes a bit more effort but is also more rewarding.

  16. @Richard B

    > A podcast is very much worth listening to

    I agree. Not having a stratospheric IQ, I’m ashamed to say I can’t read while doing the dishes.

    And, I know, I know, while scrubbing I should be meditating. Or thinking my own brilliant thoughts. But what can I say… I’m one of those weak and all-to-human readers of Unz. We exist too!

    I’m therefore grateful for the occasional audio or video.

    But how about a link to those podcasts? I seem to only be able to listen to them from this article.

    •�Replies: @European-American
  17. @German_listener

    I don’t read, while driving

    A good reason to quit driving.

  18. @German_reader

    Kevin Barrett is a fair piece more thoughtful than all that, GR. Kevin and I did a short back-and-forth about transcripts a month or so back. I wish I could get a transcript also. I do not say he’s a lazy bum, he’s anything but. What he replied to me with was perfectly reasonable, for one, that transcripts are time consuming and expensive to edit and set up. I understand that, I can imagine the rewinding you’d have to do. Still and all.. For another, approximately, he said you lose nuance and the force of the points being made reading a transcript. I agree to a degree with that, also. I listen to George Noory quite a lot, his interviews with Corsi and the rest. A transcript of those would be of lesser impact than the listening.

    •�Replies: @Anonymous
  19. The Guide to Kulchur link is not appearing on this page, but the Truth Jihad link is appearing.

    Andrea Iravani

  20. anon[712] •�Disclaimer says:
    @German_reader

    Some people get more out of reading and some prefer podcasts. If you listen to the old radio plays you will find you have a totally different experience than if you read the same story in a book or saw the movie. At least the message is getting out there in one form or another.

    •�Agree: Liza
  21. @German_reader

    It’s tough (and frowned upon) to read while driving.
    Podcasts have their place.

  22. In these troubled times, Mr. Unz, your soothing voice (and what you say) are really valuable.

  23. GoodTwin says:

    I must say that Ron has the most calming voice of any rabid anti-Semitic hate monger ever.

  24. @European-American

    The URLs to both podcasts are listed below, I hope they display OK.

    This is a case where Ron’s platform is too good! It’s convenient to display some links as what they are linking to, but it would be nice to also display that link information.

    (Viewing the web page source when not at a desktop is a real pain…)

    1. Two and a half hour discussion in November with Danish Nationalist Fróði Midjord on his Guide to Kulchur show, along with Guillaume Durocher:

    http://www.bitchute.com/video/Ui07FpdKrpeX

    video/Ui07FpdKrpeX on bitchute web site…

    2. Hour-long show with Kevin Barrett of Truth Jihad around the same time:

    https://www.unz.com/CONTENTS/AUDIO/kbarrett/KB-TJ_2020_1112_unz_web.mp3

    CONTENTS/AUDIO/kbarrett/KB-TJ_2020_1112_unz_web.mp3 on unz web site…

  25. @George

    Google may have a right to censor on Youtube but when they monopolize search engines and have contracts with US military and Government they should not have that right whatsoever.

    I’ve been an avid internet user since about 1999. Searching subjects used to pull up a rich assortment of returns. But Google became more adept with their algorithms and Now it is very hard to find anything except what passes official narratives.

  26. Gina says:

    I find your podcast performances almost as annoying as your other long articles on controversial subjects. Much as I appreciate the Unz Review for supplying mostly intelligent matter on current events and for organizing it in such a way that it serves dissident voices that might otherwise not find a forum, your personal Schtick in your own writings is to suggest that you haven’t particularly been following the particular controversy at hand because of your other important work, but anyway here it is. By taking this approach, I believe that you are in effect saying to your “colleagues” in the main stream, “don’t concern yourself with my dabbling on the edges of the lunatic fringe; you all know thatI am above it all and don’t take it too seriously.”

    Maybe I am wrong in my interpretation of your writing and speaking techniques, but as an intelligent reader of your publication, I just thought that you might want to know how you come across.

    •�Disagree: Ann Nonny Mouse
    •�Replies: @Ron Unz
  27. Ron Unz says:
    @Gina

    I find your podcast performances almost as annoying as your other long articles on controversial subjects…your personal Schtick in your own writings is to suggest that you haven’t particularly been following the particular controversy at hand because of your other important work, but anyway here it is…I just thought that you might want to know how you come across.

    Hmmm…that’s an interesting critique I hadn’t considered. But here’s my explanation:

    (1) I’m an honest person, and what I’m saying is 100% true. I *hadn’t* looked into most of those matters in the past because I’d been busy with other things and never considered them. As I’ve repeatedly emphasized, prior to the early 2000s and the combination of the Iraqi WMDs, the growth of the Internet, and the discoveries I made building my content-archiving system, I just didn’t suspect that there were so many holes in the “standard narrative” that I’d always received in school and the MSM:

    https://www.unz.com/runz/our-american-pravda/

    (2) Including both writers and commenters, this website provides a platform for a vast number of differing critiques of the standard narrative, the overwhelming majority of which strongly disagree with each other. Since they disagree in so many ways, they obviously can’t all be right, and I expect that almost all of them are wrong. Indeed, when I’ve looked into some of their claims, they nearly always seem wrong, and usually far more wrong than the MSM. Given the huge number of different “alternative” claims and theories, I obviously don’t have time to look into most of them, but feel pretty confident that nearly all of those are wrong as well. My articles only focus on the very limited slice of theories that after close investigation seem to be correct.

    The problem with “conspiracy people” is that while they correctly believe in the existence of some important “conspiracies” that are likely to be true, they also believe in a vast number of other “conspiracies” that are false or even totally ridiculous. That’s one reason that most mainstream people don’t take them seriously. There’s actually a pretty plausible “conspiracy theory” that the Establishment promotes many of these ridiculous “conspiracy theories” like QAnon because they realize that most “conspiracy people” are very gullible and will embrace them, thereby destroying their own credibility on other important topics.

    (3) Based upon my own experience, most mainstream Establishment people are a lot smarter and more sensible than typical “conspiracy people.” So I think the main reason they’ve never discovered or accepted the important facts I present in my articles it that, just like me, they’ve been busy with other things and never closely looked into them. Meanwhile, those who had done so are too fearful about saying anything in public lest they have their reputation destroyed.

    Therefore, I think that quite a few of them might read my articles and upon seeing a close analogy to their own situation, might find them quite persuasive. It’s basically the opposite of trying to make them accept the QAnon nonsense. A significant number of rather high-ranking Establishment people have (privately) expressed considerable support for some of my articles, suggesting that my approach does sometimes work.

    •�Agree: niceland, Lost American
    •�Replies: @Liza
    , @fnn
    , @tanabear
    , @Lot
  28. Liza says:
    @Ron Unz

    There’s actually a pretty plausible “conspiracy theory” that the Establishment promotes many of these ridiculous “conspiracy theories” like QAnon because they realize that most “conspiracy people” are very gullible and will embrace them, thereby destroying their own credibility on other important topics.

    The best example I can think of is the “no-plane” theory re 9/11. Also, such theories can be written up to sound so convincing that, even though you consider yourself a rational person, you may start doubting yourself and your ability to distinguish lies from ideas that are not outside the realm of possibiliy and end up leaving it all alone.

  29. I very much appreciate your response, Mr. Unz. It provides a thoughtful clarification of your methods that I can’t argue with. It is so refreshing to hear such a directed response from you that, if anything, it vindicates my general impression of your extensive writing over the years that so appealed to me in terms of its content and freshness. My picking at your style is, I would have to admit, unwarranted and I stand chastened. And your polite response, I would also have to say, redoubles my respect for your careful scholarship. Thank you!

  30. Irish Savant says: •�Website

    Just to point out that Ireland had a de facto mass immigration vote in 2004 when a referendum to approve birthright citizenship was rejected in a landslide .

  31. fnn says:
    @Ron Unz

    I remember listening to a former USS Liberty crewman on the radio about (IIRC) ten years ago. He and some other crew members had some years before gone to visit officials in DC on matters concerning the infamous 1967 incident. I believe it was during the Reagan years, because at one point they were taken aside by Pat Buchanan and brought into an empty room. Buchanan spoke to them for a while and the main point he made was that “everybody knows” in DC “what really happened” (i.e., that Israel knew it was a US ship and still went ahead and attacked it ).

    •�Agree: Lost American
  32. tanabear says:
    @Ron Unz

    Ron,

    One of the best and most frequent websites utilized by 9/11 researchers over the years has been http://www.historycommons.org/. This is the website that led David Ray Griffin to begin to question the official 9/11 narrative. Author Peter Lance says that he could have completed his books, 1,000 Years for Revenge, Cover-up, twice as fast if he knew about the website.

    Their timelines contain a wealth of information from first-hand sources. It is to 9/11 and the Iraq War what David Irving is to World War II. However, the website is underfunded and frequently goes offline.

    BUT … our funds have dried up. Please donate today what you can so we can continue our work. We are extremely low on funds, and this call for financial support is urgent. If we do not have funds to meet basic operation costs, we will have to shut down the site. The only financial support we receive is from online fundraisers like this one.”

    I am wondering if you can support the site in some way considering your financial wherewithal or if you can incorporate the relevant timelines into Unz Review?

    9/11 Timeline – http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
    Iraq Invasion – http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=iraq_project

    Thanks.

    •�Agree: Kevin Barrett
  33. joe2.5 says:

    A podcast… humanizes things that much more by giving readers a chance to hear the voice behind the writing. So, why not?

    Because all people are not made the same way. A good number of them are not comfortable with the spoken word beyond piddling workaday survival needs. For anything that needs any kind of thinking, these people must have it in writing because that is the only medium they can readily understand. Reading is organized in a totally different way than listening or watching. So, while some will get thinking by listening (and many of these are totally lost in front of a written page), others may need to sit down and laboriously transcribe all speech on a page before even starting to digest it.

    •�Replies: @Kevin Barrett
  34. @joe2.5

    You’re right, some prefer text, others spoken words, while some find different uses for both.

  35. gregor says:

    The topic in the Guide to Kulchur episode was what is usually called “optics,” although I don’t know if that word was actually used.

    My sense is that back in 2015 there was more interaction between various distinct yet vaguely similar right wing factions but then when the crackdowns occurred in 2017 and thereafter this provoked a schism of sorts. Many retreated to more tame territory and began to avoid controversial matters while others, finding themselves on the outs anyway, embraced the controversy.

    Many on the right are skeptical of pleas for “optics” because it is associated with mainstream Republican “cucks” who never deliver on anything.

    The current censorship regime seems to primarily rely on what I would call “inferred motivation.” A white nationalist type could try to make non-racial arguments for immigration restriction, etc but I think in most cases the liberals will (correctly!) identify those who are in fact ethnically motivated. So if your main reasons for opposing immigration are ethnic, then I think it probably makes sense to just acknowledge it rather than try pretend you’re motivated by other considerations.

    I do think though that there is a great hesitance in the mainstream to agree with or embrace any position held by “racists” even to the point of endorsing foolish and ridiculous positions. This is definitely the case with immigration at the moment. It was not so long ago that some Democrats would have been open to immigration restriction (e.g., Barbara Jordan). But now the issue has become a moral position for them and they are generally resistant to practical arguments, cost-benefit analysis, etc.

  36. Including both writers and commenters, this website provides a platform for a vast number of differing critiques of the standard narrative, the overwhelming majority of which strongly disagree with each other. Since they disagree in so many ways, they obviously can’t all be right, and I expect that almost all of them are wrong. Indeed, when I’ve looked into some of their claims, they nearly always seem wrong, and usually far more wrong than the MSM.

    Given your rather low opinion of both your writers and your commenters, how do you propose to survive censorship of the Unz Review by Big Tech? What is then your rationale for continuing to offer this website as “an alternative media selection?” Why should any of us read this when you as the publisher have such a low opinion of most of what is produced in the columns or the comments?

    •�Replies: @Ann Nonny Mouse
  37. @Weston Waroda

    Given my rather low opinion of Weston Waroda rationality there’s no need to reply, except …

    Big Tech? Helpless against Little Tech, which avoids them. It doesn’t take Big Tech to write a search engine. No, I don’t mean Archie, don’t mean GooseGooseGobble.

    Even if “almost all of them are wrong”, that merely expected, it doesn’t mean none are right. If some are brilliantly well-informed, all the facts at their fingertips, it will make Unz Review shine brightly in daytime, even if they are only one percent.

    And certainly, some are brilliant and knowledgeable, making this a place to come for education. Not the only attraction of UR.

    But if “almost all of them are wrong” it means visitors quickly learn to think for themselves, another hugely strong point. Again, come here for education, to become able to spot the insanities of this insane world.

    •�Agree: Lost American
  38. Lot says:
    @Ron Unz

    I think Gina is right about your writing style, but not speaking style.

    Specifically, you’ve got a good voice for podcasting and seem to be a natural in conversational speaking about your main favorite topics. Your debate with Kamala, you also were as clear and polished as the various professional politicians, or even better. Maybe I’m a bad judge though, I find Kamala’s
    rotating uptalk, vocal fry, and fake sassy black lady speaking style to be nearly the worst in politics, yet she won big.

    Your writing style however is needlessly long. She’s right that many or maybe most of the articles begin with a long set of disclaimers and overly personal accounts of how you became interested in the topic. You read a lot, how often do you see polished top quality writers do this? It isn’t unheard of, but you take it to a distracting extreme.

    •�Replies: @Ron Unz
  39. Ron Unz says:
    @Lot

    I think Gina is right about your writing style, but not speaking style…Your writing style however is needlessly long. She’s right that many or maybe most of the articles begin with a long set of disclaimers and overly personal accounts of how you became interested in the topic. You read a lot, how often do you see polished top quality writers do this? It isn’t unheard of, but you take it to a distracting extreme.

    Actually, the presentational writing style I’ve developed for my articles is extremely unusual, almost unique I’d say. But I’ve adopted it for a reason…

    If you look at my articles, I had never used it in the past, even though many of my articles were on quite “controversial” topics. But there’s a large difference between “controversial” and “ultra-controversial.” For example, I’d say quite a few of my American Pravda articles are 30x or 40x as “controversial” as anything you’d find on VDare. In fact, I doubt there are too many too many writers anywhere on the Internet who’ve published as much on so many different “ultra-controversial” subjects as I have.

    Moreover, since I’m seeking to get such super-inflammatory material into the minds of influential, respectable people, leading mainstream academics and journalists, proper packaging is essential. Here’s an explanatory comment I left last year:

    Yes, it’s a very difficult problem breaking through many decades of powerful media conditioning.

    The approach I try to follow is somewhat analogous to how a virus will use its protein coat to pierce a cellular membrane, then inject its DNA into the interior.

    For example, my American Pravda articles almost invariably begin in a highly innocuous manner, making claims and arguments that are extremely mainstream and respectable, ones that would hardly raise concerns in even the most nervous reader. This attaches to the existing membrane.

    I often then try to draw upon ultra-respectable sources to raise a couple of very surprising points, but ones that hardly challenge the reader’s world-view or set off ideological alarms. This tends to soften the existing membrane.

    Gradually the text begins to draw upon these same highly reputable sources to begin raising far more controversial issues, trying to inject these notions deep into the reader’s mental framework of reality, hoping that they “take” and multiply, or at least weaken the ideological defense system sufficiently that a later round might have that effect.

    https://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/who-targeted-ukraine-airlines-flight-752-iran-shot-it-down-but-there-may-be-more-to-the-story/?showcomments#comment-3664602

    Based upon various private responses I’ve received from quite a number of such individuals, I think my strategy has at least sometimes been successful.

    •�Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    , @Yevardian
  40. Anon[223] •�Disclaimer says:

    Ron,
    I’ve watched your podcast with the Danish nationalist Frooi Midjord, and I liked your contrast between the more natural “globalist” policies are a natural outcome of economic growth, and the more “unnatural” policies that are promoted by Western Countries.

    You kind of hinted at it in the podcast, but you seemed very favorable to the immigration policies of China compared to the West. As far as I can tell, China allows little to no immigration to their country, with only some residual immigration for Han Chinese from other countries.

    In your articles on America’s immigration issues, you mentioned that American immigration should be cut by half, which is 500,000 a year. In return, the minimum wage would likely be raised as a concession to the more liberal elements while reducing future illegal immigration levels and boosting labor.

    Do you think the Chinese flow of near zero is optimal, or the 500,000 person flow that is mentioned in your articles more optimal. What would you consider the more optimal level of immigration?

  41. @Ron Unz

    What’s your opinion on the “riot” that occurred a few days ago in the Capitol? Do you think it was spontaneous (as portrayed by the political and media elites) or do you think it could’ve been a Jewish/Israeli/Anti-Fa false flag?

    Also, what do you think of everything that has happened since then (banning Trump on Twitter, de-platforming Parler, impeachment round 2, Pelosi “securing” the nuclear weapons with the military leadership, calls to punish public Trump supporters, etc)? Are we living through some type of “national emergency” situation? Did an anti-Trump coup just happen?

    Is this a “Reichstag Fire” situation? Is what’s happening in America now spontaneous or to some extent pre-planned?

    I feel confused about the whole thing. I’m not sure what’s happening. So maybe you could provide some explanation and analysis.

    Thanks

    •�Replies: @Ron Unz
  42. Ron Unz says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Is this a “Reichstag Fire” situation? Is what’s happening in America now spontaneous or to some extent pre-planned?

    Well, it’s hard to say, but I’d really need to see some strong evidence to persuade me that things were orchestrated by the anti-Trumpists.

    After all, many hundreds of thousands of fervent Trump supporters rallied in a public protest in DC over what they believed was a stolen election, and maybe 0.1% of them got so excited that they stormed the Capitol as they thought Trump wanted. The ones who’ve been arrested seem exactly the sort of “agitated” people who would do that sort of thing. A similar bunch of “excited” rightwingers (armed with M-16s) stormed into the Michigan capitol last year over lockdown issues.

    It seems to me that among America’s few strongest remaining international assets are its prestige, credibility, and the power of its media propaganda, and they’ve all taken a devastating hit from this. Trump was leaving office and the Democrats had won the Senate, so it would have been pretty stupid of them to have severely damaged the country they control just to further weaken their defeated political enemies.

    Historians are virtually unanimous that (contrary to old propaganda), the Nazis had nothing to do with the Reichstag Fire, though they did take political advantage of it. So the Reichstag Fire might be a pretty good analogy.

    •�Replies: @PublicSphere
  43. Antiwar7 says:

    At about 14:00 into the first podcast, Midjord raises an interesting point when he says that the elites wish to implement the Great Reset without any votes or popular input.

    I think in general some ideas are discussed as “inevitable”, and when there is elite consensus on that, the change just gets rammed through. Like the European Union (in the 1990’s).

    This should be recognized, with alternatives discussed and compared, every time. There’s always an alternative.

  44. Anonymous[184] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Jim Christian

    George Noory? Did you listen back when the show was actually good and hosted by art bell?

  45. Yevardian says:
    @Ron Unz

    Sure, that point on writing would be perfectly valid, except for the fact that there are such a wide variety of nutcases hosted on this website, it rather obviates the necessity for such carefully couched lengthy prologues to your articles.

  46. @Ron Unz

    Here’s an eyewitness account by a right-wing think-tanker (?) who claims to have spotted several groups distinct from the massses at the protest, including “Plainclothes militants” “Agents-provocateurs” “Fake Trump protesters” and “a disciplined, uniformed column of attackers.”

    He makes no claims to know who exactly these men were, or what they were “really” up to.

    https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2021/01/13/covert-cadre-what-i-saw-leading-up-to-the-us-capitol-attack/

  47. I have listened to both of these podcasts a couple of times. This is just the kind of thing we need when we’re in semi-isolation (and ‘semi-employment’) — intelligent discourse & interesting ideas. Thank you to Ron and the others who made these podcasts happen.

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