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In earlier section, I discussed that embodied AI, i.e. robots and humanoid, will be among the next big AI moves out of China. I believe another major trend will be application of AI technologies in vertical industries that have yet to be affected by the horizontal foundational LLMs, let alone experiencing broad adoption of AI tech. AI applications will be the most critical deciding factor in future AI advancements.

Here China’s industrial superiority and huge market will give it a distinct advantage in the AI competition.

AI in applications

Broadly speaking, there are 3 levels in the AI ecosystem. At the foundational level are AI hardware such as Nvidia’s Blackwell chips, Huawei’s Ascend, and data centers. In the middle, you’ll find the large language models such as ChatGPT, Llama, DeepSeek and Qwen. At the top are the various AI applications, e.g. in healthcare, banking, manufacturing, war fighting, etc.

This architecture is similar to the earlier generation of digital technology, with hardware like semiconductor chip, PC, mobile devices at the bottom, operating systems like Windows, Android, HarmonyOS in the middle, and applications such as Amazon, WeChat, TikTok on top.

In a mature ecosystem, the customer-facing activities will happen at the application level and the bulk of revenue and profit generated in the ecosystem should be here.

Today, in the AI ecosystem, just like the early days of the digitalization era, most of the revenue and profits is going to the foundational chip level, with Nvidia as the biggest winner. Over time, however, the revenue and profit of the industry will flow upward to the LLM and application levels. Eventually, the bulk of value will reside in the applications.

In such a mature AI ecosystem, still years away, multiple vertical AI applications will be built upon the horizontal LLM models and that is where AI will start to touch our lives in the most direct and impactful way. For example, Manus, a new Chinese AI assistant built on top of the Alibaba Qwen LLM, is able to perform tasks such as designing websites and planning travel itineraries upon user request. Such a development is an illustration of how we are progressing towards AGI. Putting aside the question true AGI or singularity is ever going to arrive, which I have my doubts, there is little dispute AI will be used more broadly in the economy and our daily lives.

As we are already seeing the slowdown of the scaling law, the hyper-scalers such as OpenAI and Meta are facing a diminishing return on raw compute. They also face a lack of new data as online data used for training is nearly exhausted. However, vertical industry data, much of which offline today, has barely been tapped yet.

China’s strategy is to drive AI from the chip and LLM levels to the application level as fast as possible. Given China has the world’s most industrialized economy, there are numerous ways to incorporate AI to enhance productivity and deliver higher ROI for AI users. China has a wealth of manufacturing, industrial, banking and healthcare data that can be used to train vertical models to lead AI applications.

This is why in the last two months, the majority of large Chinese car companies (BYD, Cherry, Geely, Nio), telecom companies (China Telecom, China Mobile), energy companies (PetroChina, Sinopec, CNOOC, China Nuclear), industrial manufacturers (Sinochem, Baosteel, Jiangnan Shipping), and financial institutions (ICBC, BOC, CCB, Ping’an Insurance) have announced they are incorporating DeepSeek into their business operations.

Such integration is also going beyond these large businesses. Numerous hospitals, local government agencies, and schools are integrating DeepSeek into their workflows.

A good example of AI application can be found at a major Shanghai hospital. It was reported in February that Shanghai Zhongshan Hospital officially released the beta version of China’s first AI model in the cardiovascular field focused on cardiovascular diagnosis and treatment via AI agent.

CardioMind, co-developed by Zhongshan Hospital and Shanghai Academy of AI for Science, aims to become an AI doctor specialized in cardiovascular disease diagnosis and treatment with top-level experience, according to Ge Junbo, member of the Chinese Academy of Sciences and director of Zhongshan Hospital’s cardiology department. “We’re feeding CardioMind data and teaching it to think like a top expert,” Ge announced in the press release.

In addition to general cardiovascular disease diagnosis and treatment knowledge, CardioMind has also absorbed hundreds of thousands of electronic medical records from the cardiology department of Zhongshan Hospital, learned the ways doctors think in diagnosis and treatment, and picked up various difficult cases.

“CardioMind’s knowledge is precisely focused on all types of cardiovascular diseases,” Ge said, adding that the AI model can comprehensively process various examination data from electrocardiograms, ultrasound images, and laboratories and make diagnosis and treatment conclusions by processing the information.

The cardiology department of Zhongshan Hospital admitted 820,000 patients last year, according to Ge. “With the help of CardioMind, our doctors can serve more patients, reduce the overall workload, and improve the quality of diagnosis and treatment.”

CardioMind transforms the expertise of top doctors from leading medical institutions into “digital diagnosis and treatment capabilities” that can be replicated, Ge said. The promotion and application of CardioMind can accelerate the utilization of high-quality medical resources in hospitals.

Another example of such AI deployment is in military combat scenarios. The Chinese military is already starting to deploy AI and embodied AI into its operations.

AI is already used in aerial dog fights. However, there is a critical flaw in current AI air combat systems – their reliance on trajectory-based predictions, which struggle to account for sudden, non-linear manoeuvres executed by human pilots.

The Northwest Institute of Mechanical and Electrical Engineering, a key research arm of Norinco, a top Chinese arms supplier, is solving this problem with upgrades to current AI used in air combat. Research team at the institute has developed a technology that combines advanced infrared imaging with AI-driven predictive modelling to anticipate opponent fighter pilot’s moves by detecting subtle wing-tail movements.

Using a modified YOLOv8 neural network, the system analyses infrared imagery to detect millimetre-level deformations in an opponent’s control surfaces – such as a F-15’s 1.5-metre rudder or two-metre elevator – during flight.

These real-time observations feed into a long short-term memory (LSTM) network improved with attention-weighing mechanisms, enabling the AI to predict manoeuvres before they fully unfold. Human pilots rely on instinct and unpredictability, but every physical maneuver has mechanical precursors. By decoding these signs – a rudder tilt, an elevator shift – the new model resolves the “black box” of human decision-making and can make split second strike decisions.

As AI gets integrated into real life situations, the scope and scale of a country’s industrial base and consumer markets will play a decisive role in the advancement of future AI innovations.

My third prediction is about AI’s commercial development. I believe AI will follow the same trajectory as all the past technological developments – it will get cheaper as AI penetrates into mass market. Affordability, efficiency, and innovation will be the focus of competition in the long term.

As shown in industry after industry, Chinese companies excel in delivering low cost, high quality products and solutions as the Chinese market is the most competitive globally. As a result, China is likely to have the world’s most competitive AI application markets, just like with EV, solar panel, batteries, smart phones, etc.

Already we are seeing Chinese companies take a different approach to AI development from OpenAI, Meta, and Tesla. Rather than building a moat protected by high Capex investment, proprietary software and high profit margin, DeepSeek, Alibaba, Unitree and BYD are developing an ecosystem through open sourcing, engineering optimization, and free/low-cost software. The goal is to drive quick adoption, scale and fast iteration, thus achieving long term market share gains.

Mass market adoption of AI

As the technical frontier for AI matures and applications move to the center stage, affordability becomes a critical issue for broad adoption. Cost remains one of the most formidable barriers to AI implementation, particularly for large language models.

DeepSeek has dismantled this obstacle by offering an open-source strategy and cost-effective training solutions, making AI accessible to businesses and entities that previously found it prohibitively expensive.

This is probably the most important contribution of DeepSeek and China in AI development, democratizing AI for businesses and consumers who otherwise couldn’t afford advanced AI solutions.

This isn’t merely a tech breakthrough; it’s a shift in AI economics that is forcing competitors, both in China and abroad, to rethink their own business models.

As a result of DeepSeek’s breakthrough, a new framework, called Chain-of-Experts (CoE), has emerged as the next frontier beyond the high compute, high cost classic LLMs, also referred to as dense models, which activate every parameter simultaneously during inference leading to extensive computational demands.

The aim of CoEs is to make LLMs more resource-efficient while increasing their accuracy on reasoning tasks, by addressing the limitations of the classic LLMs. This new algorithmic framework vastly accelerates the speed and relevance of model output by activating “experts” — separated elements of a model, each specializing in certain tasks — sequentially instead of in parallel.

This structure allows experts to communicate intermediate results and gradually build on each other’s work rather than crunching vast amount of data that may be largely irrelevant yet take up much time and compute resources.

Washington’s effort to strangle China’s AI progress through chip restrictions has inadvertently pushed China down this path. Since Chinese companies do not have access to the best AI chips, they are forced to explore innovative ways to achieve high AI performance with limited compute. DeepSeek’s breakthrough is to achieve at-parity, even superior, performance without using the best hardware and incurring the heavy associated costs.

As often said, necessity is the mother of inventions. Washington’s bellicose actions have completely boomeranged.

The low cost mass market adoption approach is not restricted only in horizontal foundational LLMs. The same strategy is being pursued by Chinese manufacturers when they incorporate AI into their products at the vertical application level.

BYD, Geely and Cherry, all top EV makers, have started to offer free autonomous driving AI software in their cars. BYD has extended free autonomous driving to all its models including the sub-$10,000 Seal model. In contrast, Telsa charges $8000 for its autonomous driving software package or a $200 monthly fee.

Chinese consumer electronics companies are integrating AI into low cost consumer products that are widely used already. Companies like Huawei and Xiaomi have embedded AI into their smartphones and home devices, making AI widely accessible in markets with lower purchasing power.

Unlike AI models in the US, which often require high-end computing infrastructure, China’s AI is optimized for lower-power devices, which is more practical for regions with weaker digital infrastructure. This gives China a strategic edge in markets where western AI solutions are too expensive or incompatible.

Additionally, China has built over 1.9 million 5G base stations across Belt and Road Initiative nations. The Beidou satellite navigation system, China’s alternative to GPS, is in use in over 120 countries, providing location-based AI services for industries such as agriculture, urban planning and security.

With affordable AI-powered products, investments in digital infrastructure and a growing influence in AI governance, China is positioning itself as the leading AI player in developing economies.

China’s AI expansion is guided by a clear strategy. The government 2017 New Generation Development Plan laid out a road map to make China the global AI leader by 2030, focusing on breakthroughs in AI infrastructure, applications and industrial integration.

The plan aligns with China’s “digital silk road” initiative, which promotes digital infrastructure projects, including fibre optic networks, 5G, cloud computing and AI-powered services. The digital silk road initiative is an extension of the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) launched by President Xi in 2013.

Another consequence of driving down AI costs is the recalibration of China’s tech ecosystem. While tech giants like Alibaba and Tencent have dominated AI investments in the past, startups with fewer resources, exemplified by DeepSeek and Manus, can compete and innovate at the same footing without massive upfront investments.

This is driving a shift towards a more diverse AI landscape, one where smaller, more agile firms can challenge the incumbents. It also raises the stakes for China’s AI talent pool, as engineers and researchers gravitate toward the country’s most promising frontier firms.

One of the most noteworthy characteristics of DeepSeek is its open source stand on AI tech standard. The same open source approach is being adopted by companies such as Ubtech Robotics and Alibaba in their humanoid tech and chip tech programs. Ubtech has open sourced its humanoid design while Alibaba has done the same with its latest RISC-V chip design. Design plans, software, and detailed schematics are made freely available.

The open source approach empowers developers everywhere to innovate without starting from scratch, effectively lowering barriers to entry in these high tech areas. As noted by organizations like the IEEE Robotics and Automation Society, sharing technological blueprints can accelerate innovation across the industry.

Open sourcing technology isn’t just about saving time and cutting costs. It also ignites a global movement to standardize technology and enhance collaboration among research institutions and tech companies.

Open source collaboration also helps to prevent market fragmentation caused by excessive reliance on proprietary systems, instead fostering rapid iteration and large-scale adoption to ensure a dynamic synergy between technological innovation and market applications.

This democratization of technology is how open-source software like Linux transformed the computing world, offering a powerful, community-driven alternative to proprietary systems.

China’s drive to offer low-cost, open source AI will spur a wave of innovations and broad adoption among both Chinese and non-Chinese businesses in different industries, eventually benefiting everyone in the ecosystem.

(Republished from Substack by permission of author or representative)
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  1. Allow Twitter, Facebook etc into China. We’ll see what happens next.

    https://twitter.com/jenniferzeng97/status/1898087787875750220#m

  2. Charles says:

    The development of “CardioMind” has one important function the author did not mention – the shifting of responsibility from a doctor (“I’m sorry about your husband’s death, but nobody’s perfect”) to the AI entity (“That darn CardioMind is the one at fault in this case”).

    •�Agree: ariadna
    •�Replies: @Passing by
    , @A_Hand_Hidden
    , @xcd
  3. xyzxy says:
    @USA invades Israel

    Allow Twitter, Facebook etc into China. We’ll see what happens next.

    Allow them into China, and you allow US Deep State Jews in. Why would China do that?

    But let’s break down your link. It’s from Jen Zheng, Falun Gong advocate and paid operative of the New Tang Dynasty-Epoch Times syndicate. This is the same Zheng who claims she had to ‘escape’ to Australia, after being tortured by the Communists over her participation in the cult.

    However that was, Zheng is known to spread goofy rumors, as long as the tall tales can disparage the mainland government. For instance, a couple of years ago she was suggesting that Xi had been overthrown by a military coup. How did she figure that out?

    First, scuttlebutt on the Chinese blogs had reported that general Li Qiaoming (now commander of PLA Ground Forces) had ‘unexpectedly’ left his prior command, and there was no immediate indication of a new assignment.

    Next, at the same time China was experiencing a high rate of domestic flight cancellations.

    Third, Xi Jinping had not been seen in public since his return from a recent trip to Uzbekistan.

    Putting all these ‘facts’ together (and probably after channeling some Falun Gong spirits, or more likely a bottle of 120 proof Baijiu spirits) Zheng decided that Xi must be under house arrest, with the military shutting down Chinese airspace, all under the orders of General Li. I mean, it all made sense. Right?

    It’s amazing how people who have no idea about the real China are otherwise happy to post whatever they imagine is going down in the Middle Kingdom. LOL

    •�Thanks: Biff
  4. Enthropy says:

    So despite the well documented absence of energy sources and raw materials to do this stuff, and the world population overshoot using those resources faster than bacteria in a half consumed Petri dish , we will jet forward into a brave new AI world full of tech gizmos and SCI fi bling?

    You think we just continue with ever increasing energy demand being met by mining sources that don’t exist, maybe mine a few asteroids or whatever. Really smart engineering (not software) types have got your back? Maybe AI will think of something right ….there’s always a tech solution, robots or whatever.

    AI electrical energy demand is massive , but electricity is only 20% of world energy consumed. The rest being mainly fossil fuel, mainly crude oil derived , used in moving stuff, ,making stuff and transportation supporting this flighty ICT. It’s coming to an end, unless you or AI can direct us to new terrestrial resources . Then there’s copper. Worse and worse grades available, all the good cheap stuff gone.

    AI in one resource rich (Russia) country while the rest fight for a few coal seams? C’mon this stuff needs extensive global supply chains and economies of scale full of billions of energy rich consumers to drive it.

    •�Replies: @Vidi
    , @Virtual-Dome
  5. Priss Factor says: •�Website

    Chinese peepul no fooled by neocon?


    Video Link

    •�Replies: @Anon25
    , @anon
    , @Joe Wong
  6. future technology oh boy problem is more and more people are getting their devices HACKED and more and more the FAKE AI is prevalent
    trust has gone down the drain and it isnt coming back mr chinese hitech fanboy

    •�Replies: @Joe Wong
  7. Vidi says:
    @Enthropy

    So despite the well documented absence of energy sources and raw materials to do this stuff

    All the “documentation” spewing from the fossil-fuel industry cannot change the truth: the fact that the Sun can supply all the energy the human world needs, ten thousand times over. And I do mean all the energy, all the coal, oil, nuclear, and so on. Add it up — and the sun can supply the total 10,000 times over. See the MIT Energy Initiative (link).

    Because you completely ignored the Sun, the rest of your comment is moot.

    By the way, I have noticed an enormous propaganda offensive from the offensive and polluting fossil-fuel companies. That is not surprising, as solar energy will be so abundant that it threatens to kill that industry, or at least make it far less polluting. So the people there are desperately doing all they can to slow or block the solar and electric revolutions; the high tariffs on solar panels and EVs are only the start of the fossil counterattack.

    But it’s too late for the people chanting “drill, baby, drill”, as China will reach peak carbon soon; the Western fossil industry can do little about that. The West will be forced to follow, out of an acute embarrassment if nothing else.

    •�Replies: @Enthropy
    , @Anonymous
  8. Anon25 says:
    @USA invades Israel

    Irritating idiot. Bodoh! Seperti katak di bawah tempurung! There’s an Anglo version to this SEA idiomatic expression but this is most apt describing you. Lol. You are also so petty and spiteful.

  9. Anon25 says:
    @Priss Factor

    Another idiot with limited knowledge. Haha. Travel to Chine or yu 2 cheep or 2 expensif to lavel.

  10. @USA invades Israel

    I am not at all for subverting, invading or submitting China and I am certainly not for imposing them Western zioglobalist crap like Facebook. Likewise, I don’t like to be imposed Chinese crap either. I’d rather kick both the Jews and the Chinese out of white countries, altogether with the whole Third World population surplus the Jews have imposed on us, and I’d stop sowing chaos around the world, chaos that those who cause it use as an excuse to force aliens down our throats, and when I say throats, I mean literally. There is no substantial difference between the WEF and China, they’re in it together, they have the same agenda. The displayed dissent between them is just theatre for the gullible.

    •�Replies: @迪路
  11. @Charles

    AI is a communist dream coming true. The one thing the communists strive for is total control and the one thing the communists run from like the devil from the cross is responsibility. AI ticks both boxes.

    •�Replies: @so complex
    , @radicalcenter
  12. Miro23 says:

    The cardiology department of Zhongshan Hospital admitted 820,000 patients last year, according to Ge. “With the help of CardioMind, our doctors can serve more patients, reduce the overall workload, and improve the quality of diagnosis and treatment.”

    It looks like this result can be generalized. For example a C E Mind (Civil Engineering Mind).

    A hypothetical C E Mind could build more bridges, decide where they are needed, provide a tailored quick fail safe project design, list the materials needed, provide the lowest cost sources, prepare the orders, then print out the project ready for the architect to sign.

    Then also select the most efficient local contractor and give detailed day by day instructions on construction. AI Lego.

    The final step would presumably be the integration of humanoid robotic workers (in development) plugged into the project and working 24/7.

    This looks like outcome when machines invade the “intelligence” niche.

    •�Replies: @xcd
  13. Enthropy says:
    @Vidi

    Cheapo solar panels made using the energy of stranded coal out in east Chinese desert won’t make 6” shells . Can’t wait to be invaded by an enemy relying on sunshine. All looking for a plug socket as the sun goes down.

    Solar power doesn’t even make solar panels.

    a kids catapult and some stones will counter your strategic solar panel gambit , and borosilicate glass is , as fragile as your world take over plan.

  14. @Passing by

    theyre not communist they are one party nationalist state with cult like characteristics aka hive mind.
    if calling them commies is all youve got you lost already

    •�Replies: @迪路
    , @Passing by
  15. @Enthropy

    Botok! indeed, carbon seems to be an overly abundant element in the fossil infested universe., so is hydrogen and oxygen, methane clouds light years large.
    Prey explain to us “population overshoot” how and where the 20% electricity is mined?
    As to the scarcity alarm, there is, a century ago laboriously extracted from the earth crust,waiting to be picked up and reused, more high grade scrap copper laying around in my small city garden and kitchen drawer, than ever possessed during the bronze age. (forgot about the vintage aluminum motor cycle engine block in the garage that will not need the energy consuming electrolysis from bauxite anymore)
    True, it gives a self assuring sense of importance to imagine what would happen to the globe if we all simultaneously decided to jump up and down and scare the supposed overshoot to death.

    •�Replies: @Enthropy
  16. Anonymous[204] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Vidi

    Peak carbon? Oh no, we’ll run out of carbon, whatever will we do. 🙂

    I’m trying to picture a solar powered M1 tank, LOL. As if tanks aren’t dangerous enough to be in without 10 tons of thermal runaway waiting to happen.

  17. Anonymous[204] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Enthropy

    Those HUGE trucks at big mines, size of a small office building. Imagine one of those with batteries, LOL, electric motor. Brown out a whole city to charge and drains the batteries in an hour. To say nothing of the torque problem, LOL.

    •�Replies: @Vidi
  18. Intelligence being so extremely rare earth, imbecility so abundant and art so highly overrated, is there any leeway for artificial stupidity?

    •�Agree: xcd
  19. 迪路 says:
    @so complex

    According to your understanding, should we believe in a rubbish religion like Christianity?
    Christianity is the origin of a lot of cults. Evangelicals, Satanism, Illuminati.
    Our culture has made us plain atheists, and that alone would prevent us from being dominated by gods, nobles, royalty, Jews.

    •�Thanks: radicalcenter
  20. Rob misek says:

    I think that every invention of man needs to be scrutinized for both its potential benefits as well as its potential risks.

    Just as guns can be used to protect and feed us, saving lives, they can also be used to threaten and take innocent lives.

    Before we dive into the unknown of AI, let’s review our experience scrutinizing guns.

    2A) A well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    This text was important enough to form the constitution. But look how poorly it has been scrutinized. People with agendas omit and interpret the text to suit their biases.

    Gun nuts omit the first phrase and gun phobics interpret the second as representing the military only. The result is that we’ve become paralyzed in division and conflict.

    People, for some bizarre reptilian brain reason, refuse to recognize that truth, demonstrated by correctly applied logic and science, is the ONLY thing we share in peace.

    What chance do we have if we refuse to accept reality? Everything becomes a source of conflict.

    AI will be similarly misused and misunderstood. And as it permeates our lives the conflict might be overwhelming.

    In civilization, only laws protect us from conflict. Obviously we need some more laws to protect the recognition of objective reality.

    We need to criminalize lying before AI lies to us.

  21. 迪路 says:
    @Passing by

    What have we imposed on you?
    Our values?
    If we really impose values on you, then I can tell you that our values are super pure racism.
    Based on facts, based on intelligence, based on culture, based on racial differences.
    尔乃蛮夷
    In fact, you are all uneducated and inferior species, and your bodies often stink.
    Thinking about unrealistic fantasies in my head every day.
    But we have a righteous heart and disdain to oppress you, as righteous people.
    You’re screaming over there like you’re cerebral palsy.
    And you end up buying from us in disgrace.
    Come on, you tell me, if you are based on our racist values, then you should go straight to killing Jews, after all, you are a Serb, and NATO bombed Serbia.Madeleine Korbel Albright, the Jew who started this.
    It is our principle that vengeance be avenged.

    •�Replies: @Passing by
  22. Enthropy says:
    @Virtual-Dome

    Not to mention the lithium pills (still) in your medical cabinet

  23. xyzxy says:
    @USA invades Israel

    What gets lost in all of this, especially among those who are sometimes (usually disparagingly) called ‘China lovers’, is that it is not so much how they see China as the ideal place, or Chinese as some sort of super or master race. That’s not really it.

    Instead, they see how China represents 1) the potential of a country whose people share a mostly univocal outlook, and 2) one not rooted in an extreme or even moderate liberal democratic notion (although Chinese Democracy had some great guitar playing by that guy who wears a KFC bucket on his head), and 3) a country not under the thumb of an alien tribe, but rather a place where the government views their own people as the first priority, and is not seeking to dispossess them using foreigners.

    That potential, now unlocked within the spirit of the Chinese people, once informed Europe, and one can say the US, up to a point. But now it is pretty much all gone. So one easily looks to China as the next wave. America could of course join the progress, but at this late stage of the game it’s really too far gone, socially and culturally, for that ever to happen. Europe is even more of a mess.

    •�Agree: Daemon, Abhuman
    •�Replies: @Miro23
  24. I am reminded of the 60’s movie ‘Beneath the Planet of the Apes’, when the Simian Army approaches the hidden fortress of the mutant humanoids in order to destroy it. The Mutants use mind control projection directed at the Ape Army to dispirit them with images of their sacred symbol alighted with flames, among other things.

    Finally it turns out their minds are too primitive to grasp the images, and this is the only defense the mutants have, with one exception- they retreat back into their church where they worship a golden nuclear armed missile, and prepare for its launch.

    Point being to the title of the article- Predicting what comes after deep seek, first off- a whole lotta porn, psychological, visceral and mostly political. Millenniums later, it will be known as the Silicon Age Collapse.

    •�Replies: @Katesisco
  25. @so complex

    theyre not communist they are one party nationalist state with cult like characteristics aka hive mind.

    You mean that communist states can’t be “one party nationalist states with cult like characteristics aka hive mind”?

    •�Replies: @so complex
    , @Badger Down
    , @JM
  26. Washington is doing this and Washington is doing that to China… in the meantime, China is already applying the AI technology to further its belligerent posture vis a vis America and the rest of the world.

    When are you going to advocate, Bin Hua, that China use the new frontier to further the cause of the humanity and not advance its military ambitions?

    P. S. No Chinese trolls or their supporters need respond, only the learned author himself (it’s he, isn’t it?).

  27. Washington’s bellicose actions have completely boomeranged.

    The US doesn’t seem to learn: its sanctions on Russia also boomeranged and now the same thing is happening with its China AI containment strategy. Isn’t the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results? Is the US insane? Let’s be real: the US won’t stop. Its “bellicose actions” will only get worse and we can see this on a daily basis.

    Look at the headlines today: OpenAI is calling for a ban on DeepSeek. But look at how ludicrous that is: DeepSeek is open source and you can download it on your computer, take off the guardrails, and use it as you see fit. How the hell are they going to stop that? The more pressure you put on China, the more China seems to thrive.

    What may happen is this: the US will set a trap for China — the Taiwan Trap. Look at the writing on the wall: a few weeks ago, the State Department removes a statement on its Taiwan fact sheet and China reacts: “FM, Taiwan Affairs Office respond to US dropping wording of ‘not supporting Taiwan independence’”. Next, the Taiwanese “president” issues a statement saying that “Taiwan is a sovereign, independent, democratic nation”. Obviously, this was not coincidental: the US is instructing its vassal Taiwan to push ever closer to China’s red line, but just short of declaring outright independence.

    The US knows it’s only time before China overtakes it in this AI Cold War, if it hasn’t done so already. So what are the next steps? The onboarding of TSMC, the Taiwanese chip maker, onto US shores will still take a few years, but after that operation is complete the US will throw Taiwan under the bus: Taiwan will declare independence in order to draw China into an economy-busting war. And that’s how the US will ultimately attempt to contain China: deploying the Taiwan Trap.

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  28. Anonymous[491] •�Disclaimer says:
    @xyzxy

    I know one BIG thing – any improvement in technology will involve a larger transfer of money to the more sophisticated elements of our society. Yes, more money will go to them – a lot more. The average working -class bozos in America will become more like slaves. America will become more poor -thanks, to the transfer of our industry overseas, – Yes, that helps the Jews, who inherited the industrial base, but the working class who inherited bupkis are sitting on the side of the road with their thumbs out. The Jews will make sure that they get their share of any progress, but Joe Six-pak will be paying for that progress.
    The Chinese will be advised to watch their pocketbooks when the Jews get involved.

  29. @迪路

    Your culture has made you as shallow as puddles on a paved street after rain. The Chinese are boastful, vapid, amoral sourpusses. Very much like Jews actually.

    •�Troll: mulga mumblebrain
  30. anon[144] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Priss Factor

    What a perfect example of ‘if all you’ve got is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.’

    Only a retarded cunt would drag DA JOOOOOZ into a conversation about AI.

    Go fuck yourself, you moronic imbecile.

    •�Replies: @Badger Down
  31. Katesisco says:
    @Counsel of Bachelor Hamsters

    Sort of like pretending you are king of the hill –the glass mountain–and its really an accumulation of failed stuff.

  32. Katesisco says:
    @Fin of a cobra

    Act II
    As per Ukraiane baiting, drag the reluctant nation into an armed confrontation. But could TAIWAN be so misled to actually declare idependence?

    Reread this:
    4 big nations now so much smaller except for the slices of Russia served up with heavy propaganda sauce.

  33. @迪路

    No one has invited you to discharge your bile against white people on an American site, yet that is what you are doing here. Tell me, how many white people go to Chinese sites to do what you are doing right here? Speaking of unrealistic fantasies, given that the only sentiment you are likely to elicit from white people with such behaviour is revulsion, what is it exactly that you expect to achieve?
    As pertaining to beliefs, there are basically two kinds of people: those who believe that the purpose of living transcends the physical limits of existence and nihilists. However, neither kind has a definite irrefutable proof to support its belief. Given that your comments here clearly you categorise you as belonging to the second kind and given that your resentment is obvious, what is it apart from that resentment that drives you here?
    Resentfulness and hatred are hardly signs of superior intellect, they are rather symptoms of complexes and frustration. Truly superior people get over complexes and frustration because they are negative feelings, and truly superior people don’t feel the need to brag about their achievements, they let their achievements speak for them.
    You see, I want the Chinese out of my country b/c you Chinese are negative people who are polluting my country. I don’t give a shit for what you do in China.

    PS: When I see made in China on a product, I buy it only if no alternative is available and I absolutely need it at the moment. Otherwise I pass b/c I know that cheap Chinese stuff that falls apart in no time always ends up costing more than expensive European stuff that lasts ages.

    PS bis: I almost forgot, I wonder if your Russian “friends” grasp what you truly think of them.

    •�Replies: @Vidi
    , @迪路
    , @showmethereal
  34. Daemon says:
    @Enthropy

    Energy is fungible. It doesn’t matter if solar cannot be relied on purely, because it doesn’t have to. Why not tap into every avenue of energy your land is capable of supporting? Why leave money on the table?

    Every Watt and Joule of energy that is generated via solar is one less Watt that needs to be imported or dug out of the earth. That’s one less watt that the defense industry will need to compete for to make shells. Not to mention the jobs that it will help create, especially at a time when we have a labor surplus and not enough meaningful work to go around.

    This isn’t a hard concept to understand.

    •�Agree: xcd
  35. Daemon says:
    @Passing by

    Your messianic belief in the superiority of your ideas have created the Chinese as they are today. They are simply a reflection of you.

    •�Agree: showmethereal
    •�Replies: @迪路
    , @Passing by
  36. Daemon says:
    @Proteus Procrustes

    All the technological wonders we enjoy today owe their existence to war and the struggle for supremacy. No war, no progress. Peaceniks BTFO.

    •�Disagree: radicalcenter
  37. @USA invades Israel

    Thanks for the Holocau$t survivor account on the horrors of the CCP>
    I’m surprised she didn’t mention “lampshades and soap”.

  38. Joe Wong says:
    @USA invades Israel

    Twitter, Facebook, etc. American products are ‘God-fearing’ morally defunct evil ‘Puritan’ cult brainwashing machinery sugar-coated with “democracy and freedom” to intoxicate people into sheeple that can be abused, enslaved, and exploited with resistance.

    Stopping the toxic evil virus like Twitter, Facebook, etc. at the barrier is the first step to eradicating the ‘God-fearing’ morally defunct evil ‘Puritan’ cult, and restore the decency to humanity after centuries of pollution of Western zero-sum, bagger-thy-neighbour, the-dog-in-manger, greed, and barbarism culture.

    •�Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    •�LOL: Gvaltar
  39. Sparkon says:

    In such a mature AI ecosystem, still years away, multiple vertical AI applications will be built upon the horizontal LLM models and that is where AI will start to touch our lives in the most direct and impactful way. For example, Manus, a new Chinese AI assistant built on top of the Alibaba Qwen LLM, is able to perform tasks such as designing websites and planning travel itineraries upon user request.

    Gosh! Designing websites and planning travel itineraries really is the stuff of the future!

    Whew! Hold on to your hats, lads, and here we go!

    OK, slow down; here it is in a nutshell.

    The biggest problem with so-called AI, or Artificial Intelligence, is the AI cannot distinguish between good information and bad (or irrelevant) information among the vast collection of scraped data it has been fed, or “trained on,” as AI proponents like to imagine.

    By contrast, a knowledgeable and resourceful human does not have to plow through hours or years of worthless information because the knowledgeable human can quickly – or least methodically – separate the wheat from the chaff by recognizing what is important, or relevant, and what isn’t. Of course, a computer can help significantly with these kinds of tasks, especially a computer with a human at the keyboard, and not another computer.

    Certainly there are situations where automated systems can outperform systems that are under entirely human control, so if you need your travel itinerary right now! then perhaps one would turn to AI, but unless you need to catch a flight that is leaving in the next few seconds, even current online resources do a pretty good job of displaying what flights are available.

    I gained some valuable insights to AI about twenty years ago when an old pal from out of town was visiting while his son was competing at a nearby swim meet. His Honda van had a nice built-in GPS car navigation system, but I was a little amused at the route it picked through town to get us to the highway leading to the swim meet. I knew all the shortcuts through town to avoid traffic and stop lights, and never would have gone the way the GPS suggested.

    Your intelligence may vary, of course.

  40. @Charles

    Indeed.

    Years ago with the advent of electronic voting and such I concluded it was an open invitation to fraud, then realized fraud was it’s whole purpose; fraud was the goal.

    With AI being sold to John and Jane D. Dullard, you can be sure the goal is control, expense reduction, and fraud. Just wait until the AI lawyers and AI judges are introduced in the name of fairness and error reduction – you and yours WILL get fucked royally while mysteriously the racially and politically connected continue to skate, and walk free. Bet your soul on this.

    Oh, and somehow costs for legal representation, filing fees and such won’t come down; server farms, electricity, AI training are so very pricey, don’t you understand goy?

  41. Joe Wong says:
    @Priss Factor

    The sophistication of the host and his capability of articulation are amazing. Modern Chinese is the beacon of humanity.

    Unlike the West, which is full of racist caste cult rhetoric.

    •�Agree: mulga mumblebrain
    •�Troll: Gvaltar
    •�Replies: @Rob misek
    , @Priss Factor
  42. Joe Wong says:
    @so complex

    When the West led in science and technology, the West called it “White European Men Are Responsible for Almost All the Greatest Human Accomplishments.” When China leads in science and technology, the West calls it “more and more people are getting their devices HACKED and more and more the FAKE AI is prevalent trust has gone down the drain and it isn’t coming back”?

    The hypocrisy of the Whites and their jealousy, resentment, and nostalgia know no bounds.

    •�Agree: mulga mumblebrain
  43. DGAF says:

    I tossed this article straight into the Hua bin.

  44. Rob misek says:
    @Joe Wong

    The sophistication of the host and his capability of articulation are amazing. Modern Chinese is the beacon of humanity.

    How do you like looking over your shoulder every time you speak the inconvenient truth?

    Nobody wishes they were Chinese.

    Nobody wants to be American anymore either.

    •�Agree: radicalcenter
  45. yesterday says:

    Everyone in a tizzy over a magic 8 ball search engine.

    Ask it about the moon landings.

  46. Rather than building a moat protected by high Capex investment, proprietary software and high profit margin, DeepSeek, Alibaba, Unitree and BYD are developing an ecosystem through open sourcing, engineering optimization, and free/low-cost software. The goal is to drive quick adoption, scale and fast iteration, thus achieving long term market share gains.

    and

    Open source collaboration also helps to prevent market fragmentation caused by excessive reliance on proprietary systems

    The second quote does away with Jewish Power.

    I love this. This is going to make the zionist stranglehold on the West irrelevant.

  47. @Passing by

    Why would the devil recoil from the world’s most infamous symbol of human sacrifice?

    •�Replies: @Passing by
  48. @迪路

    Christianity cannot be practiced sincerely by anyone. It religion sounds good and noble but it’s impracticable.
    When this is pointed out, we are told that we should strive towards it.
    At no time in history can you find examples of Christians being charitable towards the vanquished.
    Like Islam and Judaism, all three are murderous cults.
    Judge them by their deeds and not by their propaganda.

    •�Replies: @radicalcenter
    , @迪路
  49. Vidi says:
    @Anonymous

    Those HUGE trucks at big mines, size of a small office building. Imagine one of those with batteries, LOL, electric motor. Brown out a whole city to charge and drains the batteries in an hour. To say nothing of the torque problem, LOL.

    Laugh all you like, but real money is being spent on battery-powered mining vehicles. Liebherr of Germany is making those gigantic trucks and excavators, and Fortescue, one of the world’s largest mining companies, is spending $2.8 billion on them (link).

    •�Thanks: xcd
  50. @迪路

    You hardly need to be an atheist — which is not clearly more logical than theism — to reject the ample absurdities, needless cruelties, and irrelevant fables in the “abrahamic” cults’ “holy books.”

    Atheists and agnostics too fall victim to demagogues and despots.

    •�Replies: @迪路
  51. Vidi says:
    @Enthropy

    Cheapo solar panels made using the energy of stranded coal out in east Chinese desert won’t make 6” shells . Can’t wait to be invaded by an enemy relying on sunshine. All looking for a plug socket as the sun goes down.

    Hydrogen made from solar energy can power the largest vehicles.

    I find it interesting that you immediately think of war. Indeed, it’s the American Empire that is placing killer tariffs on solar panels and EVs, desperately hoping to stave off the solar and electric revolutions.

    Too late, as solar and wind are now the cheapest forms of energy; renewables are growing at a tremendous rate. In fact, according to the Texas government (link), wind already generated 26% of the electricity in 2023 in Texas.

    Solar power doesn’t even make solar panels.

    It will. As I said, there’s enough solar energy to power the world — 10,000 times over.

  52. @Rev. Spooner

    I left one “abrahamic” cult and don’t see the need to join another. But no, the three cults are not all the same.

    On the one hand, yes, these cults are a lot alike in some vile, needlessly cruel ways.

    The holy books of judaism and christianity (“torah” / “old testament”) state that people who choose to leave their cult (“apostates”) may / should be murdered. Same as the quran, and immediately disqualifying for all three in my view.

    But when it comes to charitable treatment of the vanquished: we should acknowledge the comparatively tolerant approach that numerous muslim governments have taken towards nonmuslim citizens in their midst. Learn about the Persians’ and now Iranians’ treatment of jewish iranian citizens. See the quran’s command of greater solicitude for members of the older “abrahamic” cults (“people of the book”).

    Note, too, mohammad’s statement that God forbids the killing of children, women, old people, and any other non-combatants, which is a grave evil. The bible and torah and talmud certainly don’t show such compassion and forbearance. Quite the contrary, as the jewish/christian Amalekite genocide passage and many others demonstrate.

    •�Replies: @craicaassmofo
  53. TG says:

    The first true general purpose unrestricted artificial intelligence will be the last program ever written, because it will be able to do anything including writing or modifying any application we can think of. Therefore, it will not be allowed.

  54. Enthropy says:
    @Daemon

    If only the Germans had solar power in Stalingrad , or Chiang Hei Shek had harnessed the watts per second available from the sunshine falling on the land, history would have been so so different.

    Seems such a waste turning real dense energy feedstock into fragile bits of glass and silicon wafers, to carry out energy scavenging during cloudless days, to keep the software engineers and humanities grads in hope for the future.

    •�Replies: @Vidi
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  55. Vidi says:
    @Passing by

    China is large; there is room in it for all kinds of people.

  56. The old adage: garbage in, garbage out should be kept in mind when depending on AI.

    A programmers wife sent him to the store for a loaf of bread then she added, if you see eggs there bring back a dozen.

    He came back with twelve loaves of bread.

    •�Replies: @ariadna
    , @Fin of a cobra
  57. Vidi says:
    @Enthropy

    If only the Germans had solar power in Stalingrad , or Chiang Hei Shek had harnessed the watts per second available from the sunshine falling on the land, history would have been so so different.

    If the Germans had solar power in Stalingrad, then the Soviets would as well. And the Germans would still have lost.

    Seems such a waste turning real dense energy feedstock into fragile bits of glass and silicon wafers, to carry out energy scavenging during cloudless days, to keep the software engineers and humanities grads in hope for the future.

    Pursuing solar energy is worthwhile because there’s enough of it to power the world — 10,000 times over. A world that runs on solar energy will be far richer than it is today. It’s interesting that you want to ridicule and forestall that prosperous future.

    •�Replies: @Enthropy
  58. @Enthropy

    Speaking of dense. Burning your ‘dense’ energy ‘feedstock’ is causing a ‘wet hot-house’ mass extinction through the release of heat trapping greenhouse gases, or, let me speculate, you don’t ‘believe’ in anthropogenic climate destabilisation. Or, as I suspect drives many denialists, you want to see humanity exterminated, for any one or more of a plethora of psychopathic drivers rampant in the West.

    •�LOL: Gvaltar, Corrupt
    •�Replies: @Enthropy
  59. @Rob misek

    What evil you must have done in your previous life to be re-born as such a vile shit as ‘Rob misek’. The mind recoils from contemplating what it was.

    •�Troll: Gvaltar
  60. Priss Factor says: •�Website
    @Joe Wong

    But two wongs don’t make a white.

    •�Replies: @Cloudwalker
  61. @Fin of a cobra

    There’s NO ‘Taiwan Trap’. That’s the deluded bragging of Yankee war-mongers who are so deranged with race hatred that they seem actually to imagine that the USA is Israel and China Gaza. The Judaisation of the USA has made it even more wicked and dangerous.

  62. Enthropy says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Just physics mate. Dense concentrations beat diffuse concentrations. Schwerpunkt and all that. Now dont let me stop you going on about (whatever your going on about ).

    •�Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  63. Enthropy says:
    @Vidi

    You can pursue it all you want….somebody in a diesel powered tank will drive straight over you, and all your intemperate utopian dreams will be shattered.

    Solar power…great for a few lights if your battery doesnt need replacing , good for keeping China making and exporting the kit , inverters panels etc. otherwise virtually no EROEI.
    And just more landfill at the dump.

    Either way a hard rain is going to fall, energy wise.

    •�Replies: @Miro23
    , @Vidi
  64. Miro23 says:
    @xyzxy

    America could of course join the progress, but at this late stage of the game it’s really too far gone, socially and culturally, for that ever to happen. Europe is even more of a mess.

    Maybe true about the US but Europe has a lot of variation.

    Spain, Norway, Holland, Poland, Slovenia for example are completely different places with different ethos. If France and Germany are going down the tubes, it doesn’t mean that they all will.

    Equally the US could break up. Texas alone has its own legislature and a land area (695.600 km2) larger than France (551.700 km2).

  65. Human hands may not be on the steering wheel as this hi-tech agenda moves forward.

    I provide this video by Dr. David Jacobs for those who are speculating about what is waiting for us just over the horizon.


    Video Link

  66. Miro23 says:
    @Enthropy

    Solar power…great for a few lights if your battery doesnt need replacing , good for keeping China making and exporting the kit , inverters panels etc. otherwise virtually no EROEI.

    And just more landfill at the dump.

    Depends whether you have sunny days.

    A roof of panels (for example 18 of them ) on a sunny day can reliably produce 35kWh per day. That’s a lot of electricity and you can usually sell the excess (what you don’t use directly) back to the utility back through the meter.

    •�Replies: @Sparkon
  67. Vidi says:
    @Enthropy

    You can pursue it all you want….somebody in a diesel powered tank will drive straight over you, and all your intemperate utopian dreams will be shattered.

    Do you know that electric vehicles hold nearly all the speed records? Your clunky diesel truck will be left in the dust.

    Solar power…great for a few lights if your battery doesnt need replacing

    This proves how little you know. Many EV batteries have lifetime warranties; CATL, the largest battery maker in the world, says that if one of their new batteries doesn’t have at least 80% capacity after a million kilometers of driving, they’ll give you another battery for free. Not many gasoline or diesel engines last for 500,000 kilometers, let alone a million.

    good for keeping China making and exporting the kit , inverters panels etc. otherwise virtually no EROEI.

    Once a you install a solar panel, you get free energy for decades. The EROEI is huge, far better than any fossil fuel.

    Utilities around the world strongly disagree with you about EROEI, and they are backing their opinions with real money. They are already spending billions of dollars on renewables; soon it will be trillions.

    Either way a hard rain is going to fall, energy wise.

    There you go again, promoting a grim future — when the Sun is pouring down ten thousand times more energy than we are using now.

  68. @Enthropy

    One of the other inmates at my high school carried a magnifying glass, which he employed to kill ants, hundreds of them, using pure solar energy. Don’t you ever underestimate the power of the Sun! He suicided at age 16.
    “Ants don’t have it all their own way, though.” – David Attenborough

  69. @Passing by

    current day china is far removed from its communist beginnings, the only things that havent changed are the state symbols ie flag etc.
    you could argue china is more expansionist than the us – and 1.2 billion hive mind worker drones says china is more efficient and capeable than jewish controlled us.
    the jewish rulers of the us are sloppy and inefficient – the current state of the us vassal state is a reflection of their incompetence – or is that a design feature?

  70. @Passing by

    You are describing USUKisrael.

    •�Replies: @Passing by
  71. Sparkon says:
    @Miro23

    Installation of those solar panels will cost around $30 grand, depending on location, with many states offering subsidies to reduce some of that cost, which is effectively a penalty on anyone who doesn’t own a home (60% of L.A. residents) or who can’t afford to install the panels, which, by the way, are very “dirty” to produce.

    A hidden cost of both of the highly-acclaimed forms of so-called “renewable energy” – wind and solar – is the destabilization of the grid due to the multitude of varying inputs from all the rooftop solar panels and wind turbine farms, some of which may swinging wildly back and forth from 10% to 100% output due to the passage of clouds, and of course the wind is hardly ever constantly blowing at the same velocity.

    In plain language, renewable energy costs more than it is worth.

    It depends on Gov’t. subsidies to stay afloat, and drives up the cost of electricity for everyone, which drives up the cost of everything for everyone, making renewable energy one of the primary engines driving inflation.

    •�Agree: Corrupt, Eric135
    •�Replies: @Miro23
    , @mulga mumblebrain
  72. @John Trout

    Here is what ChatGPT responded to you:

    “ John Trout once tried his hand at AI fishing. He programmed a robot to “catch anything that moves.”

    Now he owns six speeding boats, three angry scuba divers, and a very confused dolphin.”

  73. @anon

    What a perfect example of semitism.

  74. @Daemon

    Every Watt and Joule of energy that is generated via solar is one less Watt that needs to be imported or dug out of the earth.
    *********************************************************************

    OMG – the watt is NOT a unit of energy!! No one will take you seriously when you make high school errors like that.

    •�Replies: @Daemon
    , @Corrupt
  75. Miro23 says:
    @Sparkon

    Installation of those solar panels will cost around $30 grand, depending on location, with many states offering subsidies to reduce some of that cost, which is effectively a penalty on anyone who doesn’t own a home (60% of L.A. residents) or who can’t afford to install the panels, which, by the way, are very “dirty” to produce.

    18 excellent quality Chinese panels cost € 8000 (US $ 8700) to buy and install and provide a return on investment of about 7-8% in a sunny climate.

    Apart from that, the government (Valencia – Spain) give a € 1200 rebate on property tax. Altogether a good deal since the banks pay little or no interest.

    I appreciate your point about people who don’t own a home or who can’t afford the installation.

    •�Replies: @Corrupt
  76. 迪路 says:
    @Passing by

    You take it this way.
    I am not expressing anger, but I am treating you as clowns, as entertainment, and it is fun to use words to tease white people.
    The more you show anger, the happier I am.
    Especially for a Serb like you, I can expect the country to end up miserable without Vucic, a trash can for everyone to step on.
    Besides, you’re actually still dodging the question.
    What values have we passed on to you? Makes you feel negative.
    Come on, you are an inferior creature, why do you think that higher creatures in your country will pollute you? You’re the ones who contaminate us.
    We’re not like black people. We don’t care about getting white spouses.
    White people have bad body odor, and they age easily. When I meet white people and black people on the subway, I have to stay away from them to avoid having a bad nose.
    We already despise you.

    •�Troll: Gvaltar
    •�Replies: @Theophrastus
  77. 迪路 says:
    @radicalcenter

    At least atheists are more immune to ignorance than American evangelicals. At least we’re not fighting some stupid war over Israel.
    The point is that the definition of a cult in so complex’s view seems to be unclear.
    I can clearly say that the three religions of the Middle East, Judaism, Christianity and Islam, if a person with independent thinking ability reads the whole book, they are all cults.
    It is only because there are so many people who believe in these religions that they cannot be called cults.
    This shows that there are too many stupid people in the world to measure.
    In general, when I meet Christians, I think they’re retarded.
    That’s really it.
    I read the Bible like a third-rate novel.
    I think you should read our Chinese novel, which features a man who kills his enemy’s entire family. It’s essentially the same as the Bible.
    If you show mercy as a protagonist, you will be scolded by the reader.

    •�Replies: @Cloudwalker
    , @radicalcenter
  78. Daemon says:
    @Hang All Text Drivers

    Please don’t “well akshully” me and ignore the crux of the argument, it makes both of us look stupid and I’m sure you wouldn’t want that.

  79. 迪路 says:
    @Daemon

    He’s a Serb.
    He can’t even figure out who he’s supposed to hate.
    You’ll see what a retard he is.
    Honestly, I think it’s funny.
    My logic in attacking such fools passing by is itself akin to white supremacy.
    Why doesn’t he mention that there are differences between different types of white people?
    He’s a Serb and he’s at the bottom of the white ecosystem. Does he see himself as akin to the Judeo-Anglo-Saxons at the top of the ecosystem, or to the aristocracy and royalty?
    Oh, come on.
    He has no right to say anything against other races.
    He’s a despised piece of trash, but he fantasizes about finding someone else to feel superior to.

    •�Replies: @Daemon
  80. Daemon says:
    @迪路

    Watching allies and friends lose themselves to despair and hopelessness is a terrible sight.

  81. @radicalcenter

    See the quran’s command of greater solicitude for members of the older “abrahamic” cults (“people of the book”).

    That is only for Jews. Christians were seen as pagans and fair game. Then we have the Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, animists, and so on that they completely destroyed as much as they could.

    Muslims sparing their Jewish kinsmen is nothing to commend them for.

    Islam is evil for the same reason Christianity is evil, it springs from the well of evil Judaism.

  82. @Passing by

    Name ANY Irish, Scotts, Spanish, Swedes, Germanics, Slavs, Palestinians, Lebanonese, Iraqis

    Oh the list goes on & on

    Caused dead by Confucianism or Daoism?

    And by sand dune abrahamic fable sky deity worshippers?

    You gonna change ya dayshift at Walmart to count the death toll

    •�Replies: @Passing by
  83. sally says:

    AI is nothing more than a great big search engine searching stored data coupled to Algorithms sorting, constraining and monitoring the data for relevance to the question or to the objective function.. ..
    True intelligence in non biological species has yet to be implemented.

    Artificial is a silly adjective to describe intelligence.. In the old days we called intelligence research..
    What the AI implementations are doing would have been called research before the marketing hype.
    A Phd thesis or a simple report ..or thesis paper..

    Intelligence can be implemented in any object that has data processing and stored knowledge or active sensory capabilities. Even when implemented the result is useless unless the result of that implementation can also alter the behavior of the object to accord with the discoveries made by the implementation during any segment of time.

    So what is intelligence? The ability to acquire, understand, and use knowledge.
    Understanding is a model of reality.

    •�Agree: showmethereal
  84. @迪路

    I read the Bible like a third-rate novel.
    I think you should read our Chinese novel, which features a man who kills his enemy’s entire family. It’s essentially the same as the Bible.

    With all the malice and ferocity from and forth their fabled sky deity,

    Bubble isn’t even a 3rd tier sounding level novel, toilet paper would feel too stiff and uncomfortable

    it’s more like a militalia commanding, or fear-injecting ponzi pyramid scheme by traumatizing their inner circle victims

    •�Replies: @迪路
  85. @Priss Factor

    But two wongs don’t make a white.

    But Wong doesn’t have 2 white moms

    •�Replies: @Priss Factor
  86. You’re wrong about what people of the book covers. It applied always to both christians and jews (and, by the way, some say to Zoroastrians).

    Muslims systematically spared women and children and non-combatants generally, christian/jewish or not, as Mohammad said God requires. They deserve credit for their holy book forbidding murder of non-combatants when the torah/ ot claim that God sometimes requires their mass murder.

    As for not murdering jews just because of their race or tribe or cult, that’s a good and godly restraint by the muslims or anyone.

    Yes, of course the junior “abrahamic” cults don’t benefit overall from their origin in the insane self-worshipping murder cult callled judaism. But islam doesn’t follow the torah/ot tribal self worship, rejecting the notion that God ever favored one race or tribe. Nor does Islam human sacrifice as christianity does. Nor does islam say innocent babies are tainted by “original sin.”

    •�Replies: @Cloudwalker
    , @craicaassmofo
  87. @迪路

    Don’t know about you, but sane godly readers don’t say “oh this story is boring, why didn’t that puss murder the women and children?”

    Which book are you referring to? Interested to read it. Most of our kids are learning mandarin, but this old gringo needs English or failing that, a Spanish or German translation.

    As for christians, they do typically sound feebleminded when they try to “explain” the incoherence known as “the trinity.”

    •�Replies: @迪路
    , @迪路
  88. JM says:
    @Passing by

    The CPC probably sees itself (officially, formally) as something like presiding over a retreat into either the New Economic Policy of the early 20’s USSR, or more likely that of the New Democracy Phase of China in the early 50’s till the nationalisation decrees which were “won” after a serious factional fight within the party, only “on a much higher plane”. Communists are always ‘conscious’ of what they (think) they are doing even when they are only rationalising.

    So I’d say they are – formally – working towards their version of “communism” by passing through the present necessary detour.

    Of course (even) Marx would never take this as a description of the truth or the likely future. It could go either way, probably into an even more despotic system, something that some oppositionists wrote of a long time ago in comparing Stalin’s system to that which prevailed on the great river systems in the east…Oriental Despotism. Of course that was never a crowd pleaser among the party bureaucrats.

  89. @Daemon

    You are projecting. I don’t believe that people can be collectively categorised as superior or inferior but I do think that people who believe that their kin is superior are obnoxious. I do not think that all people are equal, I think that each person should be judged on her own merit.
    However, when a community of people displays collective lack of moral principles and malevolence then I think that there is something very unappealing about that community. I do believe in the Golden Rule and I do believe in Kant’s categorical imperative. They aren’t a matter of intelligence quotient, they are a matter of moral sense. If you don’t believe in them then we should part ways and if you come to display behaviour that I consider immoral in my country then I am entitled to strive for kicking you out. I don’t care about Chinese intelligence or achievements, they are by my standards deeply immoral people.
    It isn’t matter of race, people from Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam with whom I have been acquainted in France don’t inspire me at all the same sentiment. The modern Chinese are the worst nihilists I have encountered in life. Before meeting them, I actually had a positive prejudice about China because a long time ago, they indeed used to have a truly great civilisation.

  90. @Badger Down

    Aren’t they run by former Trotskists?

  91. @Passing by

    Your sample size is much too small.

    Can I suggest you visit Asia before forming your opinion? Better still, visit China itself.

    It isn’t matter of race, people from Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam with whom I have been acquainted in France don’t inspire me at all the same sentiment. The modern Chinese are the worst nihilists

    I have an aunt who is white French, but I have never met a Serb in person. The two Serbs that are are frequent commenters here on UR appear to have extremely strong views, even to the point of appearing dogmatic.

    Shall I dismiss all Serbs as being dogmatic based on such a small sample of 2?

    Do I not owe my own intellectual integrity to meet more Serbs or even go to Serbia before forming such an opinion?

    You are an English speaking Serb who chose to go to France because you find Western ideals appealing. Do your views represent all of Serbia? If I were to go to Serbia, would I find that all Serbs agree with you?

    Why then do you assume that the the Chinese who appear in France represent all of China?

    What is their leanings? Are they the artistic or intellectual segments of Chinese society? Or are they the hungry ambitious types trying to make a personal fortune by traveling to a far off land?

    How many generations have your Vietnamese/Laotian/Cambodian contacts been in France? Did their ancestors immigrate to France when they were still colonies? Does their situation differ from the Chinese you have met? Or have you assumed that they all come from the same circumstances?

    Did you know that in the past decades/centuries, it was only the most well to do Cambodians or Vietnamese who could afford to settle in Europe? Are the Chinese you meet are in the same situation?

    Do you think that the Daoists in Cbina are nihilistic?

    Video Link
    What about the Buddhists in China?

    Video Link
    Or the Muslims? An Indonesian dude visits Chinese muslims, it is in Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian language), but you can turn on the English subtitles. As you probably know, Indonesians are predominantly Muslim.

    Video Link
    Or the Confucians? Here an American explains it in English

    Video Link

  92. @radicalcenter

    But islam doesn’t follow the torah/ot tribal self worship, rejecting the notion that God ever favored one race or tribe. Nor does Islam human sacrifice as christianity does. Nor does islam say innocent babies are tainted by “original sin.”

    At this point I just want to see whites set foot away from all those sand-dune sky deity fables,

    Moslem, jewry and xtians can argue in jewusalem which one is superior over another

    •�Agree: Gvaltar, Same old same old
    •�Replies: @craicaassmofo
  93. @Passing by

    I don’t care about Chinese intelligence or achievements, they are by my standards deeply immoral people.
    It isn’t matter of race, people from Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam with whom I have been acquainted in France don’t inspire me at all the same sentiment. The modern Chinese are the worst nihilists I have encountered in life. Before meeting them, I actually had a positive prejudice about China because a long time ago, they indeed used to have a truly great civilisation.

    Well again, it’s quite normal for some whites here on Unz to judge Chinese by the shortest stocks, those refugees, scam artists, cons run away from mainland are prbly the lowest hanging fruits among the huge pool, let’s look at some the LOWEST among whites then,

    surprisingly all the Chinese I met are straightforward, non-political correct, nationalistic and easy going, I never encounted ONE Chinese who brought me unpleasant or downright hostile feelings as White Fags in Brooklyn, rainbow purple hair White femtards, burger chugging boomer White fatards, social ladder climbing White whores and White malehores, Whiggers teens dress in niqqer clothing and throwing niqqer gesutres,

    You are telling me even lowest ranks Chinese who rode over the fence for some better wages overbeat those Zogbots humanwastes list above, dude you are not living in Murica, not in real life,

    Are you typing in your mom’s basement somewhere near Gaza, Hasbara By?

    •�LOL: Gvaltar
    •�Replies: @Passing by
  94. @radicalcenter

    Because it is also a symbol of victory of virtue over sin through self-sacrifice, of resurrection, of victory of faith over unbelief, of life over death.

  95. @Cloudwalker

    No, I am typing from Serbia where there are a lot of Chinese and they’re just as obnoxious as Jews. And my sentiment is widely shared.

  96. @radicalcenter

    Wrong, christians are seen as pagans (idolatry of the cross, jesus, the trinity, the saints, mary and so on) by both jews and muslims. Muslims only see jews as people of the book.

    We also know that both muslim and jews are allowed to lie to non-people of the book if it advances their agenda.

    Are you a mohhamedian?

    •�Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  97. @Cloudwalker

    Mohamed replaced the jews as the chosen people with his people, the Arabs.

    Islam is Arab centric. Bow to Mecca, take Arab names, learn Arabic, only read the Koran in Arabic, decorate you house with flying carpets and eat figs all day, men lifting their asses in the air for the homoerotic tendency of the Arabs, women wearing desert clothing, and so on and so forth.

  98. 迪路 says:
    @radicalcenter

    It’s easy. You have your son download a qidian reading(起点) app, over there are some popular network novels.
    In most novels, killing the whole family of the enemy is the most important point.
    But in general, if you want to read really in-depth Chinese books, or TV dramas, you generally need to learn classical Chinese.
    Classical Chinese is much more difficult than Mandarin and can hardly be fully translated.
    If you are interested, why not try our historical TV series, Ming Dynasty 1566. 大明王朝1566
    It’s our highest rated show.
    I say this, at the political level of Game of Thrones characters, put them in Ming Dynasty 1566, they wouldn’t survive an episode.

  99. 迪路 says:
    @Rev. Spooner

    In fact, I think the so-called white left is itself based on Christian religious beliefs. Jesus called believers to be tolerant.
    But what actually happens is that tolerance is impossible.
    The existence of this contradiction has led to a group of white leftists who talk about ism but actually act like bandits.
    For example, environmental protection, environmental protection is good, however, environmentalists are mostly fraudsters. Relying on environmental protection to blackmail others.

  100. 迪路 says:
    @Cloudwalker

    I think the Bible is somewhat literary.
    You can view it as critical reading at this point.
    When you think about it, you’ll see the holes in their logic.

  101. @Deep Thought

    Video posted on Oct 27th, 2024. Great example of chutzpah.

    •�Replies: @Deep Thought
  102. Priss Factor says: •�Website
    @Cloudwalker

    Was Woody Allen the first one to come up with ‘Two Wongs don’t make a White’?

    https://ok.ru/video/2077331491455

  103. @Deep Thought

    I certainly won’t negate US crimes. Disliking modern Chinese mentality doesn’t mean condoning Western imperialist rampage. However I find rich that a Jew chide Americans for having done more than two centuries ago the exact same thing that Israelis are doing while he speaks.

    •�Replies: @Deep Thought
  104. 迪路 says:
    @radicalcenter

    Video Link
    This TV show is about how to make money when the Treasury is empty.

    •�Thanks: littlereddot
  105. @craicaassmofo

    While the REAL ‘Chosen People’ are the Hindus.

    •�LOL: Gvaltar
  106. @Passing by

    All you do is show yourself to be a racist Sinophobe. Just why is your business. It’s all the rage in the West these days.

    •�LOL: Gvaltar
    •�Replies: @Passing by
  107. @Sparkon

    You scum NEVER give up, do you. Renewable energy is already the cheapest form, and technological progress continues. In Germany renters purchase portable solar arrays, that move with them. Questions of grid stability are solvable, as the Chinese are showing, particularly through the use of batteries, even EVs. What are you? Fossil fuel stooge or Rightwing hater of Life on Earth?

    •�LOL: Gvaltar
  108. @mulga mumblebrain

    It is my business because the Chinese are polluting my country and because they use corruption to obtain contracts to build infrastructure that ends up killing people, because everything the Chinese do is always a complete botch. As pertaining to racism, I think that as far as you are concerned, given the amount of hatred against everything white you incessantly spew over here, some introspection really is in order.

  109. @Deep Thought

    And? Is it a Jew talking in the video? Yes. Is he talking about events from more than two centuries ago? Yes. Is Israel doing right now exactly that for which he chastises Europeans? Yes. Did / does the country whence I come have anything to do with Western imperialism / colonialism? No. On the contrary, we have consistently, always stood on the opposite side. Do I feel responsibility for what the West did? Why should I feel responsibility for actions in which not only did I not partake but which my people have always rejected?
    What the West did has bearing on what I think of the West but it has no bearing on what I think of the Chinese. What the Chinese do in my country has bearing on what I think of the Chinese. And yes it is possible to reject false dichotomies, to refuse to take sides in the US-China dispute and to strive for kicking both out because they are both toxic. I said it before, I’ll repeat it, choosing between the globohomoshlomo West and China is akin to choosing between the plague and cholera.

  110. 迪路 says:
    @Passing by

    On November 1, 2024, the roof of the train station in the northern Serbian city of Novi Sad collapsed.
    The station is part of Serbia’s railway upgrade program, although the renovation was completed in two phases with the participation of Chinese companies. But the collapsed ceiling in question was not part of the new renovation.
    So you think the Serbs can build the infrastructure?
    You’re a trash Serb.
    We will see how Serbia becomes a garbage country with your riots.
    You stupid impotent man with cerebral palsy, you have the brain capacity of someone with intellectual disability.

    •�Troll: Gvaltar
    •�Replies: @Vidi
  111. 迪路 says:
    @Passing by

    By the way, when I looked this up, it turned out that the Serbs were stupid enough to take to the streets to complain about the project.
    The nature of engineering problems is engineering professional problems, should let professional people deal with the problems.
    And you’re a civilian. You have no business in this.
    Garbage like you get a message and think you know the truth.
    A crap country like yours is not worth anyone’s investment, not from the West, not from us.
    In the future, any foreigner invests in you and anything goes wrong, you will blame it on someone else.
    You’re such trash. Why don’t you find your own reasons?
    Think about why you still live in a crap country when other white people have so many advantages over you.

    •�Troll: Gvaltar
  112. Vidi says:
    @Passing by

    everything the Chinese do is always a complete botch

    You seem jealous of Croatia’s spectacular new bridge built by a Chinese company (link).

  113. Vidi says:
    @迪路

    So you think the Serbs can build the infrastructure?
    You’re a trash Serb.
    We will see how Serbia becomes a garbage country with your riots.
    You stupid impotent man with cerebral palsy, you have the brain capacity of someone with intellectual disability.

    I suggest you be more polite and stop the insults. Or go back to Taiwan. You behave a lot like a Taiwanese propagandist working to make people around the world angry at mainland China.

    •�Replies: @迪路
  114. @Passing by

    A deranged racist, probably employed by Soros or USAID or Radio Free Europe or some other Western hate peddler. The scum that infest a collapsing West, driven mad with rage that a non-Western power is rising, PEACEFULLY.

  115. 迪路 says:
    @Vidi

    I was actually very polite earlier.
    But I’ve seen so much of what stupid people say that I can’t stand it anymore.
    This is probably what’s called misogyny.

    •�Troll: Gvaltar
    •�Replies: @Vidi
  116. Vidi says:
    @迪路

    I was actually very polite earlier.
    But I’ve seen so much of what stupid people say that I can’t stand it anymore.

    I may not be all that smart either, but if you are truly Chinese, I suggest you do what China does.

    Insulting people — even if you think they deserve it — only makes you look young and immature. Do you see China insulting other countries? You do not. What China does is working very well, as most countries in the world have joined the BRI in spite of everything the US can do.

    Here’s another example. In 2011, Elon Musk literally laughed at ByD (link to one-minute video). You would probably have done something immature and gangsterish, insulting him in return, even threatening to kill him. ByD did neither; it continued to work hard. Now in 2025, ByD sells far more EVs than Elon’s company does; Tesla is in trouble.

    Of course, you could be a Taiwanese DPPer, basically an enemy of mainland China. In that case, you want other countries to be angry with the mainland. And your insults (thrown while pretending to be from the mainland) are working well towards that end.

    This is probably what’s called misogyny.

    No, misogyny is hatred of women. Maybe you mean misanthropy, which is hatred of mankind.

    •�LOL: Gvaltar
    •�Replies: @迪路
  117. @Proteus Procrustes

    When are you going to advocate, Bin Hua, that China use the new frontier to further the cause of the humanity and not advance its military ambitions?

    What is the military ambitions of China, can you list ONE that,
    inflicted direct or continuous damages to Whites? Lebanese? Palestinians? Serbs? Brazilians? Cubans?

    Oh yeah I know a Evil-gelical bot like you will spew the name of taiwan islands, whose passport righteous says Republic of China,
    and the current DPP regimes are doing EVERYTHING they could to THREAT the OneChina Constitution of RoC,

    If that scenario I’d drink beer and chugging french fries on my balcony in Hk, smirking China swiftly deals with their traitor and those who Threatening their sovereignty and national interests.

    You see, whites on Unz crying for jewry oppression and domination, fine, it’s human nature.
    And when Chinese are doing so to fend off jewry attacks and instigations, it’s Military Threat or Expansion,
    those white fags all-of-sudden align themselves to their master’s narrative,
    Perhaps that’s a genetical defect and that’s why ALL white countries fell into jewry’s pockets, looking miserable and pathetic into each other’s blank eye sockets.

    •�Replies: @Proteus Procrustes
  118. @Passing by

    Name One Chinese agitating cutting dicks on children and mutilations across the country,

    Name One Chinese promoting man-on-man anal and praising it as the purest love of humanity,

    Note : Whites are pioneers and engagers in ABOVE categories, don’t blame the jewry they willingly anticipated themselves

    Until then when I hear bot calls Chinese amoral,, Yawn

    Chinese peasants know humanity better than your corrupted, hedonistic, demonic European aristocratics & bourgeois

  119. 迪路 says:
    @Vidi

    But I’m really young. 27
    And in general, I insult people only on the basis that they have insulted me before.
    Especially this idiot Passing by, who attacked me for no reason.
    And if you’ve read my previous statements, you know that I advocate killing all Taiwanese who don’t consider themselves Chinese.
    Massacre.
    And kill any white man who tries to oppose our unification of Taiwan. In theory, anyone in the world who dares to oppose our reunification of Taiwan should be killed, we did not provoke anyone, they want to meddle in our affairs, they should die.
    It should not be necessary for me to repeat that Taiwan is a rebel province.
    The current Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) is supported by traitors who were cultivated during the Japanese occupation.
    We have a deep hatred for Japan, and if we can, we can kill all the Japanese in the process of reunifying Taiwan.
    You can check out the Chinese forums. Most Chinese support the use of nuclear weapons to kill Japan into no man’s land.
    If I were Taiwanese, I wouldn’t be stupid enough to advocate killing myself.
    I am a pure Shanghainese. We already despise the Taiwanese. Most of our scam calls are from people in Taiwan, and I have received them several times.
    You should separate what CPC does from what we ordinary Chinese think.
    Our thoughts are usually bloodthirsty.
    You can think about it.
    Every few hundred years we have major population loss events that far exceed the rest of the world.
    The reason why the Chinese people approve of CPC rule is because they always give us some extra options when it comes to killing people.

    •�Troll: mulga mumblebrain
    •�Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  120. @迪路

    The phoniest ‘Chinese’ yet. A crude troll designed to paint the Chinese as blood-thirsty savages, and not at all subtle.

    •�Replies: @迪路
    , @Eric135
  121. 迪路 says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Bloodlust does not mean barbarism.
    It’s efficient and correct.
    In many cases, killing people is the easiest way out.
    Drugs, crime, gambling, corruption.
    We all know that the CPC is very correct in governing the country with benevolence and justice.
    We all agree with that.
    But we can’t stand little people jumping in front of us.

  122. xcd says:
    @Charles

    In the capitalist system, there has been little culpability, in medical treatment or other fields.

    •�Replies: @Gvaltar
  123. xcd says:
    @Miro23

    Engineering cannot be fail-safe. It can be at acceptable safety, within acceptable cost, etc.

  124. @Cloudwalker

    “I’d drink beer and chugging french fries on my balcony in Hk”

    That sounds great! I wouldn’t mind it myself if beer was being chugged and French fries were being scarfed down… to see the world go by.

  125. Corrupt says:
    @Hang All Text Drivers

    Watts are a measure of power consumption P = I*E (power [watts] = current * volts). It allows power consumption to be compared when loads use different currents and voltages.

  126. Corrupt says:
    @Miro23

    In the US I have paid from $20K (14 panels) to 35K (18 panels) for both panels & equipment (inverters, etc). The tax credit was 33% of the cost. Note that this did NOT include batteries.

  127. Miro23 says:

    In the US I have paid from $20K (14 panels) to 35K (18 panels) for both panels & equipment (inverters, etc). The tax credit was 33% of the cost. Note that this did NOT include batteries.

    I don’t know why you’re paying so much for panels. In Spain I recently paid €2250 + €472 tax = € 2.772 (US$ 3.o13 ) for 18 panels*. The complete installation including, inverter, cables, licenses, tax, (no batteries) came to € 8.175 (US$ 8.886). I should receive a € 1.200 rebate on property tax over the next 2 years.

    This seems to be a normal cost for here. Maybe the difference it’s to do with US import duties?

    *Longi Hi-Mo6 Explorer

    •�Replies: @Corrupt
  128. Eric135 says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    Took you long enough to call out Chicken Scratch.

    What were you waiting for, an engraved invitation? LOLOLOLOL!!

    •�Replies: @mulga mumblebrain
  129. Gvaltar says:
    @xcd

    The socialist system?

    •�LOL: Theophrastus
  130. @迪路

    Look at the little Chinese boy talking big from the basement of the $3 million villa that his daddy and granddaddy bought by hustling Shanghai real estate. Come on out and play in the real world, 小鸡屎.

    Never worked a day in his little pimply life; daddy bought him everything and now he’s angry at the nasty white mans (sic) because they make his delicate nose crinkle.

    Waah! Daddy, make them nasty mans stop saying nasty things about me!

    毫无价值的小粪便他妈的自己的母亲

    •�Replies: @迪路
  131. 迪路 says:
    @Theophrastus

    I have to admit you’re not even good at cursing…
    An old man like you might want to figure out what the estate tax is gonna be when he dies.

  132. @Eric135

    I took it for granted that he was a fake, Bozostein.

    •�Replies: @Eric135
  133. Eric135 says:
    @mulga mumblebrain

    “I took it for granted that he was a fake …”

    I would say you were praising him with faint damnation.

    And faint damnation is something unheard of from mulga mumblebrain.

  134. @Proteus Procrustes

    Look, racist liar, China is making DeepSeek and other AI systems open source, to be used by anyone, anywhere. You, shove that up your lying, racist, fundament. And China does NOT have a ‘belligerent posture’ you lying ape-that is the USA and vermin like YOU.

    •�Troll: Gvaltar
  135. @Enthropy

    Is that your excuse? You’re a ‘dense concentration’. I can see that. Diffuse also means widely, in fact near universally in the case of solar, disseminated, so a solar installation in every village is easy. I guess you would prefer a nuclear or coal power plant in every town, being a brainwashed Rightwing retard. Just sayin’.

    •�Troll: Gvaltar
  136. Corrupt says:
    @Miro23

    I’m not sure either. In the first case, the $20K included a main panel upgrade. I consider the first install relatively cheap compared to the second (they were in different US states). The panels themselves are listed on Amazon for $200-$400 (more in the $400 range). Perhaps the cost of installation based on the number of people involved and their pay. I know salesmen get a significant commission for a sale also.

  137. Miro23 says:

    Well the panels are more than twice the price so it must be import duty. The installation could be a cost difference. The people who did mine are experienced and do the installation in a day (there were two of them instead of the usual three).

    •�Replies: @Corrupt
  138. Corrupt says:
    @Miro23

    Actual installation was a couple days, but it took a few months to actually get it turned on… Inspectors checking installation, main panel upgrade inspection, and had to wait for the local power company to give it’s approval.

  139. @Passing by

    Ironic an invader complaining about others invading. Some don’t want to be in China just like your ancestors didn’t want to be in whatever European country they left from. You should start a “return to Europe” campaign first. Give the “red injun” back his land

    •�Agree: littlereddot
    •�Troll: Gvaltar
  140. @Rob misek

    I wish I was Chinese. Or Russian. Austfailian was not so shabby-once. Not any more.

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