
There have long been conspiracy theories that the world is ruled by a group of elite pedophiles or at least ephobophiles—those who are attracted to sexually mature but very young girls. Just such a vast, elite pedophile ring — centred around Hilary Clinton — was a key strand in QAnon thinking [QAnon conspiracists believe in a vast pedophile ring. The truth is sadder, By Moira Donegan, Guardian, September 20, 2020]. In the UK, “Operation Yew Tree,” set up after the death of popular entertainer Sir Jimmy Savile and revelations about his raping numerous under-aged girls, unmasked a number of high-profile celebrities with similar proclivities, such as the entertainer Rolf Harris [Rolf Harris, Savile and Clifford all pulled the wool over my eyes, By Simon Hattenstone, Guardian, July 3, 2014].
With the publication of court documents relating to Virginia Roberts suing the now jailed Ghislaine Maxwell, a growing list of A-List celebrities have been revealed to have spent time on the private island of wealthy convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, where Maxwell procured young girls for him. These A-Listers include Prince Andrew, who denies having had sex with Virginia Roberts (then a minor), Stephen Hawking and Bill Clinton. According to sworn testimony by one of these girls, Epstein told her that the former president “likes them young” [Epstein told victim that Bill Clinton ‘likes them young’, new court filings reveal, By Rachel Young, Independent, January 7, 2024]. People may be shocked at evidence that so many highly elite people may be interested in having sex with very young girls. As someone who researchers evolutionary psychology I don’t find it shocking at all. It makes complete theoretical sense.
What is it that predicts being extremely eminent, ascending to the heights of the elite, being, in some way, a genius? As I have explored in my book Sent Before Their Time: Genius, Charisma and Being Born Prematurely, it is very high intelligence combined with psychopathic traits. If you are low in empathy and altruism, you won’t care that your radical new idea, for example, offends vested interests; in fact you might enjoy upsetting people. You will even have aspects of Narcissism, such a strong sense of entitlement; making you impervious to setbacks, possessed of a Machiavellian streak, and, so, more likely to succeed. If you are low in impulse control then you won’t be able to force yourself to think like everybody else; you will “think outside the box” and generate original ideas. And if you are high in negative feelings, in Neuroticism, you will be constantly ruminating and so generating new insights. In essence, genius is very high intelligence combined with sub-clinical psychopathology.
German-British psychiatrist Felix Post (1913–2001) conducted a character-trait analysis of 291 world famous men which I drew upon in Sent Before Their Time. He found that 16% of the male population might be sub-clinically psychopathic. This compared to 52% of politicians, 50% of artists and 70% of writers. Post estimated that 1% of males suffer from Narcissistic Personality Disorder, but this was 27% of artists, 28% of politicians and 40% of writers. It should be added that while 1% of the male population are “severely psychopathic,” Post found it was 17.4% of politicians, 37.5% of artists, 26% of thinkers, and 46% of writers. He estimated that 33% of his sample of world famous scientists had suffered from depression or anxiety, as had 41% of his politicians, 34% of his composers, 36% of his thinkers, 41% of his artists and 72% of his writers. Approximately 20% of people in Western countries experience a bout of depression at some point in their lifetimes [Creativity and psychopathology: A Study of 291 World Famous Men, By Felix Post, British Journal of Psychiatry, 1994].
With these numbers in mind, we must ask what are the correlates of pedophilia? The first key trait is psychopathology; it robustly crosses over with being a pedophile. This is presumably because in order to abuse and take advantage of somebody, especially a minor, you have to be lacking in altruism and empathy and also have a strong sense of entitlement, that you can do whatever you like [Psychopathy in the pedophile, By D. Dorr, In . Millon, E. Simonsen, M. Birket-Smith & R. D. Davis (Eds.), Psychopathy: Antisocial, criminal, and violent behaviour, 1998]. Unsurprisingly, one study also found that, “Pedophiles possess many core personality features associated with Narcissistic Personality Disorders” [A Rorschach investigation of defensiveness, self-perception, interpersonal relations, and affective states in incarcerated pedophiles, By M.R. Bridges et al., Journal of Personality Assessment, 1998]. In other words, some men may be attracted to under-age girls but you require psychopathic and Narcissistic traits in order to act on this.
Both of these traits are part of a “fast life history strategy,” a concept I’ve looked at before. Fast life history strategists are evolved to an easy yet unpredictable ecology where you must live fast and die young. It is, therefore, pointless bonding with people, who could be wiped out at any moment, so you are aggressive and psychopathic. You must pass on your genes as quickly as possible, so you should be attracted to very young women, as they are highly fertile. If you are a slow life history strategist then you are in a predictable, harsh and competitive environment. You must ensure, for example, that your offspring are adapted to the local diseases and are well-nurtured, so you might value genetic similarity to your partner and a kind personality above youth. Our super-elite are highly intelligent fast life history strategists so we would expect to have an extreme penchant for youth.
Anxiety is associated with paraphilia, with a developing a sexual fetish. An extreme penchant for youth might be regarded as close to fetish, in that teenage girls are not yet at the peak of their fertility. It has been suggested that anxiety can potentiate sexual arousal in men, which can lead to an association between sexual arousal and atypical objects [The Relation Between the Paraphilias and Anxiety in Men: A Case—Control Study, By M. Fox et al., Archives of Sexual Behavior, 2022]. Alternatively, it may be that anxiety involves experiencing intense feelings more strongly, making the normal desire for youth more extreme, as autism, which involves low empathy and extreme sensations, is associated with paraphilia and anxiety [Psychological and Developmental Correlates of Paraphilic and Normophilic Sexual Interests, By A. Brown et al., Sexual Abuse, 2022]. Certainly, childhood anxiety is associated with later becoming a pedophile [Social anxiety and sexual offending against children: A cumulative meta-analysis, By K. Nunes et al., Sexual Aggression, 2012].
So, put simply, we shouldn’t be surprised at evidence of highly elite males having sex with underage girls. The same traits that predict being highly elite would appear to predict just such a penchant. The “conspiracy theory” makes theoretical sense.
Sexual deviants are also attracted to boys or those who have already reached puberty. You concentrate solely on the female. I don’t know what it is about gay men – but many (not all) are fixated on the younger – thankfully most of them do not want to go to bed with a 3 or a 13 year old boy – but they are fixated on youth. Peter Pan Syndrome? I don’t know. Wasn’t Jimmy Saville involved in procuring young boys from a boys home in Northern Ireland and many British elites in the government were involved?
When an article begins by identifying pedophiles as being “elites”, it’s time to move on.
Distortion in one area of the psyche isn’t a one and done sort of thing. There’s other parts that are also off. Politicians in the West are often insecure at their core, high in narcissism, sociopathic, evasive, chameleon-like, greedy, have overblown senses of resentment and entitlement. They seem to be pervy at a higher than average rate. At the end of the sexual crackpot spectrum are the trannies who are attention seekers and exhibitionists to an extreme degree, all wanting to strut around in over the top outfits and needing to be applauded. There’s something ‘off’ about a lot of people wanting to be in the public eye. Politics and the arts seem to draw a lot of these sorts of people and politics is show biz for homely people. It would be best to vote into office people who don’t want the job, were that possible, so as to get mentally normal people.
Very few dare to oppose the age of consent laws
https://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/ten-pointsmemes-on-the-age-of-consent
The Rind Study dared to touch one of the biggest taboos, even much bigger than race differences
https://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/faulty_science/us-congress-senate-condemn-scientific-researc
We want to state scientific FACTS, not promote underage sexuality.
low age of consent, or the Rind study results, does NOT mean that young people should have sex. It means means that police and big government should not meddle in such family matters. Parents have to deal with their children’s behavior, instead.
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One of the most prestigious peer reviewed research journals of the American Psychological Association published a meta-research (an overview of lots of other research papers) with disturbing findings. Result: the US Senate and US congress UNANIMOUSLY condemned the Research. After all, the preconceived notions behind our criminalization of Teenage Sexuality must not be disturbed.
Not off topic
at issue is the (very taboo) fact, if underage sex should be punishable. Outside the US the age of consent is usually 16, 15 and used to be 12 everywhere, including the US. Age of consent creeps up, and we can watch theantifeminist dot com (search the internet archive) prediction that soon age of consent will be 21, or even anything over 10 years age difference: 60 year old with 45 year-old would be illegal
https://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/jayhammers-blogspot-com-age-of-consent-is-misandry
I object to the use of the tern “elite” when referring to these people. There’s nothing elite about Bill Clinton, Jimmy Saville, Prince Andrew or Justin Trudeau, if you took away their money and connections, they probably wouldn’t be able to survive. I mean, what legal activity could Bill Clinton do: Used car sales, sleazy insurance salesman, funeral home shyster? Jimmy Saville is dead but with his face he could’ve been used to sell dog food. Prince Andrew other than being purported to once having flown a helicopter for the military, probably has no marketable skills (at least his older brother seems to know something about gardening). And then, the last but not least “elite”, the aging, and once pretty drama teacher, Justin Trudeau, is totally devoid of any skills. He’s too old to sell his butt on Montreal’s tenderloid drive, his university training was all in fluff courses, anything physical or technical gives him the vapors. There’s one thing he could possiblly do, learn how to dance with aging single boomers on cruise ships.
The answer to this question is easy: democracy.
You have political leaders financed by oligarchy.
If such political leader become popular (like FDR, for example) he can start to implement own political agenda.
Even can decide that he is “elected” and do not need to take into account actual interest of his finance backers.
As countermeasure for such “rebellious” political figure, it’s required that “democratically elected” president can’t have more then two terms, frequent reelection (short terms).
And, most important: good, really good blackmail material.
What kind of blackmail material to use? Sexual deviations is the best!
So, every generation of political leaders was required to have something to hide.
It was less then 100 years ago, and simple adultery show to the public can end political life. So sweet and innocent years!
Later, simple being homosexual is enough for good political blackmail.
Now, sex with children is the best deviation to have.
Why “level” of abnormal perversion seems to increase every generation?
Simple. Public politic try to make own faults acceptable in public.
So it will be the higher and higher level of deviations.
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P.S. Every current young politic is actually aware, that he need a good blackmail material on himself.
Why do you think private island of Jeffrey Epstein is so popular?
It give chance to young future political leaders of USA to make good blackmail on themself, and place it in good hands.
Well, I glanced over this article and I think my own explanation of this strange situation from a few years ago is far more plausible:
https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-john-mccain-jeffrey-epstein-and-pizzagate/
Q) Why are so many of our Bankster puppets corrupt or sexually depraved?
A) Because ((they)) don’t want anyone in power unless they have some dirt on them.
Sorry but I think its that simple.
If you look available documentation Bill Clinton does not like them young. His type seems to be big brunette hair and makeup and big tits. That demographic does not skew to under age. So I am skeptical about this bit. : )
It’s like with Trump. We have a good idea what Donald the Fat likes and it isn’t Epstein’s product. I’m not a sexologist. Don’t most people establish a pattern by middle age?
Stephen Hawking? Come ON man.
A simple answer, the lack of ethical and moral principles combined with eternal leisure.
Perhaps in part because your definition of elite has been so wrong. Why do you define and elevate them as better or brighter than you?
The blasé way in which Edward Dutton refers reflexively to a certain class of men and women as elite—men and women whose primary characteristics are lust for power and the ruthlessness that complements that lust and other lusts—is, to my taste, too subversive by half. His points, whatever they are, could all have been made without inviting his readers to subliminally accept his corrupted use of a word that has long been associated with refinement and with superiority of education, cultivation, or acumen in another area.
The individuals named in his article, along with many, many others that aren’t named and don’t require naming, may certainly be thought of as outstanding in a sense—but in what sense? Is one expected to recognize a man or woman as manifesting elite qualities when what he or she is is little more than a paragon of depravity in a Jewish and Jewish-aligned ruling class where corruption and depravity have superseded morality and ethics as desiderata?
When you write “not off topic” as preface to
you impart the distinct impression that you are looking over your shoulder as you type.
“it isn’t Epstein’s product”
wrong: Trump was cozy with Epstein & a frequent visitor to Pedo Island. Also admitted to incest fantasies about his own daughter.
as to “34% of composers”, yeah thats probably true:
Beethoven: incel, + “odd” relationship w nephew
Rachmaninoff: manic-depressive w cross-cousin marriage
Tchaikovsky: closet fag
Schubert: homosexual pedophile
Brahms: incel
Saint-Saens: misogynist
OTOH, all of the other top 10 All Time Greats – Sibelius, Vaughn Williams, Dvorak, R. Strauss – were relatively normal guys.
etc.
A fatal error in history is to make politicians answerable for their crimes after they leave office. Julius Caesar, Trump, Netanyahu were cautious leaders until they became desperadoes for not being allowed to retire as elder statesmen. All successful politicians are sociopaths if not psychopaths. Indira Gandhi spent a night or two in prison for quite serious crimes in office. She was then elected back to Prime Minister.
Agreed. Parents should have the right to beat sexual predators to death and bury them in a dump, without interference from law enforcement. That was your point, yes?
Putting it that way makes it sound evil, so let’s be clear: It is NOT considered a pathology to find 16, 17, 18 year-old girls attractive. This is not in the DSM (the shrinks’ book of psychiatric disorders). They ARE attractive – – and according to sexologists most men would agree with that. What IS immoral and unethical and sick is to ACT upon it. So, you are okay, I am okay. I will add one more thought. There used to be an old H.S. saying, I don’t know if it’s still said: “Freshmen don’t lie.” What it means is that as women get older, they learn to be more cunning and cagey (more realistic?), and so it is an attractive trait not to have turned that corner.
Sexually depraved… or emotionally infantile.
A man who publicly jokes about his daughter being hot is not the kind who’d act upon it. Besides, Trump has never had a shortage of hot women wanting to sleep with him. A man who showers with his daughter, however…
McCain was scum. Case in point, when he kicked the bucket all the lefties were weeping over him.
Gardeners!
What makes you think Bill Clinton couldn’t have been an insurance defense lawyer standing in front of juries going “Ladies and gentlemen – “wah, wah, wah. I mean really – wah wah WAH!”
People when young do not think how their behavior might affect future offspring.
They get immersed in drugs, sex ,evil music, occasionally in occult.
Young women do not think of future desire to have children when taking the pill, or young men how smoking weed will make their children manic-depressive, perhaps psychopathic.
Not long ago i have read about study how contraceptive pill makes women choosing future husband with female characteristics. When they get off the pill to have children they see how feminine their husbands are, so they despise them.
Seems to be how moral decline causes nations to fall.
Oh well-like most sociobiological analysis since the seventies Dutton’s article kind of makes sense because it is designed to kind of make sense but does it describe what is going on in the world? A bit but more likely not really that much
In one article, he manages to include rates of psychopathy, Saville raping girls, Prince Andrew, fast life strategies etc all of which he says are interrelated But do you know what else is interrelated? EVERYTHING!…
-which means that one can interrelate every single thing to any other thing
For instance Dutton manages to link Bill Clinton to psychopathic traits-Hello Captain Obvious! You don’t need to study psychology to know its obviously true But then he links psychopathy to fast life strategies Like I said you can relate every single thing to any other thing
Bill Clinton is long-term schemer He definitively is not a fast life strategist In fact, when you think about it most political psychopaths are long term strategists, the very opposite of the live fast, die young philosophy
So basically the article is wrong (although like most such literature it kind of makes sense because its designed to kind of make sense)
With our “elites” being linked to pedophilia through Epstein island, Ron Unz describes what is going on in the world a bit more clearly than Dutton-Epstein island was a blackmail and a political control scheme That’s it, no need to cite dubious psych literature about fast life strategies, rates of pedophilia blah blah
agree, no need to do a psychology article search
ha ha ha I forgot that someone used Finn and EU taxpayer money to make this
It was US that organized or at least willingly participated in the campaign against Mrs Gandhi in the first place Her crimes, using Third World standards, were minor The campaign backfired because the Indian public correctly saw the campaign as the imperialists and their compradors trying to get rid of a nationalist who put her country first and they returned her more popular and secure than ever before Sometimes the US should just bite the bullet and let things be
Is there a link between paraphilia and being circumcised?
Your explanation and Dutton’s go hand in hand. The depravity of so called “elites” makes them easy, and many cases willing, targets of blackmail. What type of individual has the gall to participate in the sick activities “alleged” at Pizzagate and Epstein’s island and still believe he is worthy of power, fame and fortune? The narcissistic personality that Dutton describes.
I always wondered how no talent bums like P Diddler and Orca Winfrey became billionaires.
except we know that our leaders are psychopathic narcissists-it’s obvious watching any Hillary Clinton or Lindsey Graham interview
We also know our media is part and parcel of the governing structure because no interviewer ever said “Thank you for the interview Ms Clinton (or Miss Graham) I just have one more question; having listened to your answers to my questions for the last ten minutes how do you feel about being a psychopathic narcissist (or a narcissistic psychopath-pick either one) because you obviously are one?”
Edward Dutton just muddies the waters by psychologizing something that doesn’t need to be psychologized Furthermore he often gets it wrong because -look the problem with Bill Clinton and his ilk isn’t that he is a fast life strategist, he is exactly the opposite
J Phillipe Rushton posited a fast life strategy as applicable to why black people tend to be generally more promiscuous, less intelligent, more fertile and violent as compared to other racial groups In that context it is certainly an interesting theoretical construct
Bill Clinton likely strategized reaching the Presidency while in Oxbridge (or perhaps even in teenagehood) That implies long term thinking and slowly proceeding, most young men wouldn’t be able to maintain that level of commitment for decades Bill, in order to reach his reward made a logical decision to serve the rulers Certainly that’s not a fast life strategy
Also, getting into a situation where he is open to blackmail by the rulers is actually another logical long-term planning decision- if someone has blackmail on Bill they know Bill will be a reliable servant and thus support his career and Bill knew that
Blackmail, when not played just for the money can become an interesting two-player cooperative game
The same thing goes on the media Why doesn’t any media personality call out our psychopathic politicians? They know if they cooperate they will have their careers enhanced (Anderson Cooper)
Edward Dutton picked up the Rushton hypothesis because it is an interesting one but he got confused because there are so many concepts in psychology, one tends to forget which is which and which are applicable and which aren’t in specific cases so basically he thought that for some reason the concept of a fast-life strategy is applicable to being a psychopathic politician which in reality it SIMPLY ISN’T It was a bizarre choice on his part but then again Dutton (bless his well-meaning little heart) is generally not very good in applying psychological concepts
This being the case why even bother psychologizing- just say these political guys are psychopaths, just listen to the way they talk, they were obviously chosen because they are psychopaths
Of course it’s not just young girls that are being subjected to this.
In the case of the British Conservative Party in the early 70’s (during the Prime Ministership of the proven paedophile Ted Heath), any members of parliament that got involved in a ‘scandal with small boys’. would approach the Whip Tim Fortescue, and he’d get them out of trouble (48 sec video):
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It’s interesting how Fortescue specifically said ‘small’ boys, as opposed to ‘young’ boys.
Because the latter would be more likely to describe underage boys of perhaps 12-15 years of age. (ie: some bigger lads).
Whereas a ‘small’ boy would imply perhaps 6-10 year old little kids – hence even greater depths of depravity that these Brits were involved in.
Of course, I’m not implying that this was only going on during an isolated period over 50 years ago, or that it was confined to one side of the political divide.
For certain it’s still going on, and degenerates of all political persuasions are engaging in it.
One example that comes to mind is the Jew Leon Brittan, who was a minister in Maggie Thatchers administration. There was a huge Paedophile dossier compiled on Brittan’s activities.
Nevertheless, he was never prosecuted for his depravity – instead Brittan was created a life peer by the Queen and made Baron Brittan of Spennithorne.
That’s how the British system works I guess. Those with the highest tally when it comes to sodomy with minors, get all the accolades.
Blackmail is indeed a huge business and very effective in controlling compromised people. Epstein’s business encompassed many billions of dollars. The results gained must have been worth it.
Agree, the ability to lie with a straight face is a mandatory characteristic for “leaders” How many normal folks could say “it depends of the meaning of is” while discussing Monica Lewenski’s activities?
A very good example.
Dutch Financial Whistleblower Admits He Was Forced To Sacrifice Children At Elite Parties
Whistleblowers and victims have been coming forward for decades trying to expose the elite and their use of occult rituals to gain power, commonly referred to as “black magic.”
https://articlefeed.org/dutch-financial-whistleblower-admits-he-was-forced-to-sacrifice-children-at-elite-parties/
Broken record here. While there is a conviction that would prove Epstein is an ephobophile, there is no evidence of him being a pedophile. His conviction was for soliciting an underage prostitute, leading to his being placed on a sex offender list. This doesn’t mean Epstein was not a POS.
It’s difficult to know about this one, given serial liar Virginia Roberts, who also accused the thoroughly despicable Dershowitz, has changed her story so many times. The original story about Maxwell’s flat, would not have made her a minor in the UK. Andrew has done more than deny “having sex”, he claims to have no recollection of meeting her. Again, that doesn’t mean Andrew is a swell guy. Interestingly Lady Victoria Hervey, one of Andrew’s “dates”, has said the photo produced by Roberts is fake. She says the table in the photo is out of scale to Roberts and Andrew, and claims to have met the criminal who forged the photo. She has also met Roberts at Epstein gatherings and thinks Roberts is a grifter.
On another note, there is an old union saying about employers who use the septic tank theory of management. The big chunks float to the top. I think that would apply nicely to the elites.
The anthem of the millennials.
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I disagree. Bill’s behavior is always about immediate gratification without any concern for the people he victimizes. He banks on his cleverness and smooth talking to get him out of trouble. His elite ability to lie, fake concern and compromise his integrity along with Ross Perot took him all the way to the presidency.
Clinton reacts, he is not a long term planner. A relative of mine is married to a former Arkansas politician. Back when Bill was governor, he would often call in the middle of the night asking to speak to her husband, reacting to one self inflicted crisis after another. He would call her by name, ask about her kids by name, completely disarming her from being aggravated about waking her up at 2 am. Hillary on the other hand, she said was a real bitch.
Knowledge of the elite creeps is growing each and every day. Is there ANYONE in a position of power out there who is worth a damn? Cawksuckers, cross dressers, pedophiles, rapists, etc.
we could debate this till forever but in my opinion anyone who comes from a modest background and gets to ascent to the presidency is not indicative a personality that does not delay gratification but is instead a long term planner
Bill (and his wife) we can both agree is an awful person That he lies, feigns concern and has no integrity is well known That makes him calculating and manipulative and corrupt and…evil but we have to emphasize calculating and manipulative
He probably set out for the presidency in 1963 when he met JFK which he achieved in 1993 so basically he showed the ability to plan for three decades Given his evil nature a lot of things could have gone wrong- a rape charge, a drug overdose, someone surviving a planned murder, getting castrated by Hillary etc (we all know the rumours) but his unnatural ability to calculate and manipulate kept him covered and focused on his goal for thirty long years THIRTY YEARS!- thirty years is not short term thinking A person unable to delay would burn way before that
Along the way, he likely got exposed to blackmail on the lines of Epsteins island but don’t look at something like Epsteins island from yours or mine normal perspective- if you or I were invited to pedo island we would be shocked and refuse to participate BUT look at it from the perspective of an ambitious psychopath like Clinton
Clinton gets an invitation to participate to a conference held on a remote private billionaire’s island (yes I know pedo island happened after his presidency but lets assume there were a lot of these things before he became president) The meaning of the invitation is OBVIOUS- the conference theme of the future of women’s empowerment in African villages is fake, the real purpose is there will be Allen Funt cameras and underage naked girls and boys or mules or whatever and they will take videos of you and the aforementioned OBVIOUS, TOTALLY F…ING OBVIOUS
Again, normal people like you and me would be shocked and refuse but not an ambitious psychopath like Clinton His attending pedo island is not about him needing and getting some perverted sex-it’s actually more disturbing than that:
Receiving an invitation to an obvious deep state entrapment would have been THE GREATEST DAY OF HIS LIFE Sure there will be videos of him doing perverted things but he would know that the deep state now knows he can be trusted and is part of them and thus the deep state will go out of its way to promote him (and, of course, getting some perverted sex is the cherry on top)
No, Clinton can delay gratification, that he is a potential rapist and/or murderer means he is evil and loves to do evil things not that he just can’t keep it in his pants and unable to delay gratification
In fact, that if he is indeed a rapist and murderer means he can plan ahead long term-each rape and or murder was planned ahead so that it could be covered up
Hey after all, he was never busted for rape or murder was he? Good long term planner that Bill…so unlike Rushton’s black guys
Dutton is wrong
Jeeezus!
I think that you, and Nottingham above, are taking the wrong definition of elite. Merriam Webster online has five different meanings for the word. What is referred to in this essay is the people who are elite are:
“A group of persons who by virtue of position or education exercise much power or influence.” Which is not the same thing as being inherently the best, most moral or most able, people.
This essay does help illuminate a possible reason for the general push for more sexual libertine behaviors, and specifically for the political and cultural elites current push for normalizing pedophilia. They know what they are and they want to be out in the open about it, without consequences.
Normal people must resist this, with extreme violence if necessary. Allowing these vampires to prey on our children is literally the last red line.
I’m not convinced that large numbers of the elite are either pedophiles or psychopaths, as Dutton argues. It comes down to the definition of the terms ‘pedophile’ and ‘psychopath’, each of which are problematic terms.
‘Pedophile’ is defined as an abnormal attraction to prepubertal children. I see little evidence that many in the elite are pedophiles in this sense. The allegations against Epstien, for example, seem to have mostly involved girls in their mid- to late-teens.
Whereas attraction to prepuberal girls is clearly biologically maladaptive, attraction to teenage girls is not. As Dutton rightly notes in his piece:
In fact, pregnancy rates (i.e. the chance of a female becoming pregnant from any given act of intercourse) peak among girls in their teens.
It is true that fertility peaks somewhat later, because teenaged girls have higher rates of birth complications.
Therefore, Dutton is correct to claim that:
However, he is wrong to claim that, for this reason, attraction to girls of this age “might be regarded as close to fetish”, i.e. as abnormal and maladaptive.
This is because the general consensus in evolutionary psychology is that, since human mating is generally characterized by long-term pair bonds, males have generally evolved to be maximally attracted to females, not of maximum fertility as such, but rather of maximum reproductive value.
This is a term taken from population genertics which refers to an individual’s likely future lifetime fertility given their current age. In human females, it peaks soon after girls become fertile. Any time before then, she might not survive to reproductive maturity; and, from then on, her remaining fertile years diminish.
Therefore, males have evolved to seek relationships with females of maximal reproductive value because, by entering into a long-term relationship with such a female, they could monopolize the entirety of the woman’s reproductive career over the coming years.
What is abnormal about Epstein is not his sexuality as such, but rather his wealth, power, and lack of either moral scruples or fear of punishment.
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But neither am I convinced by the popular notion that members of the elite are disproportionate psychopaths.
Clearly, in order to get to the top in business and politics it pays to be a risk-taker and to be ruthless. Epstein is probably a good example of this.
But the definition of psychopath is broader than this. For example, among the criteria used to diagnose psychopathy or anti-social personality disorder in the DSM are “failure to sustain consistent work behavior”. Psychopaths are also described as impulsive and easily bored.
It is unlikely that anyone who is easily bored and unable or unwilling to ‘sustain consistent work behavior’ would ever be able to work his way to the top in politics or business, since this usually involves years of hard-work.
The problem with the psychopath construct is that it is multifactorial. In particular, it combines two of the big five personality traits, namely, on the one hand, low agreeableness or empathy and low conscientiousness.
While people low in agreeableness may indeed be overrepresented among the elite, people low in conscientiousness are likely to be underrepresented among the elite.
Grenville Jenner jew and Jew Leon Brittan. Both passed away quickly when the media had a spotlight in them and buried in unmarked graves.
Some thought that they seeked refuge in “Israel.
Let’s not forget this!
Fornethy Residential School: Tales from the Archives
In early 2023, UK Column began its coverage of the Fornethy Survivors Group, an organisation of women who were emotionally, physically, and sexually abused at Fornethy Residential School in remote Perthshire, Scotland, from 1960 to 1991 as Glaswegian girls. The group has been advocating for 4 ½ years to find answers about why they were sent there and to seek justice for themselves and their perpetrators. Much progress has been made in their fight for justice in recent months. UK Column’s update begins with this article….
https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/fornethy-residential-school-tales-from-the-archives
Those who harm “little ones” should have a millstone tied to their neck and be cast into the sea. Matt 18:6.
In my opinion, reading the opening page or so of “On the Universality of Incest” by Lloyd DeMaus should be a mandatory precondition for writing on this topic — either as an author or as a commenter. Linking to it with this tablet is beyond my computer savvy, but it’s easily googled.
Post scriptum: the intention behind citing DeMaus was to show the (on reflection, not obvious to many) idiocy of basing policy on romantic fictions imagined to be reliable accounts of history through force of repetition. We have not ALWAYS taken the author’s value set to reflect the way things are. Quite the opposite, in both categories of sexual interactions.
Such complicated mishegoss! One would almost think Edward Dutton was trying to muddy the waters so we wouldn’t see the death obsessed child raping monsters swimming there.
Pizzagate/high pedos isn’t really my subject but I did notice researchers often died suspiciously. The p-gate associated images left me with more questions. What’s up with all those smiling males wearing bright red shoes? How could Alefantis be listed as among the 50 most influential people in Washington? John Podesta’s wall art is accurate? (If so, pre ww1 no community would have accepted him. He would have been tarred and feathered, unless he touched a child, then he would have been hung from one of his own trees.) He and his brother actually were persons of interest in Madelaine M’s disappearance? Spiritual cooking?
What kind of temple was on Epstein Island? Freemason?
https://www.winterwatch.net/2023/12/hollywood-degenerates-attend-moca-spirit-cooking-gala/
https://www.winterwatch.net/2016/11/satanic-forces-of-darkness-are-doubling-down/
It’s possibly worse than that, that depravity and blackmail materiel resulting from this are required entry qualifications into the ‘elite’ in the first place. Look at all of our ‘leaders’, how many look decent or normal?
Rather than talking about fetish and psychopathy and anxiety and Dutton trying to link a bunch of traits as usual, there’s an internal alignment that happens sexually.
You wonder if examples of where it diverges are in the trollish comments on this web site, where normal adult women who fit well into current beauty standards are declared as ‘men’ and ‘trannies’ presumably because they don’t display sufficient neoteny for the viewer.
One imagines a sliding scale of what a normal sexually attractive woman looks like. For most men it’s in a broadly normative space, for some it’s outside that space.
These elites:
Some of them are outright pedos no doubt.
Some of them are like the Unz commenters, borderliners, in that they don’t see adult women as sexually desirable if they are not neotenic enough. It’s alien to them, only younger looking girls are ‘real women’.
While some others may not have a ‘thing’ about young girls probably like the thrill of doing something transgressive or sexually transgressive.
And then some of them have probably been steered into this by Epstein, not realizing the girls were underage or were manipulated to be more ‘open minded’ about the whole thing.
And then not all elites are pedos. Macron for example seems to have opposite problem.
I know it’s morbid question, but what the hell was Stephen Hawking going to do with these girls ?
Prince Andrew was employed by the British Government when it was negotiating trade deals with various Arab countries because the Sheikhs, being Royals, would not deal with people less than Royalty. It is said that he did more for Britain’s interests than all the other Royals, but export markets and job creation are not as sexy as opening hospitals or attending theatres so no-one knows much about what he did.
“I know it’s morbid question, but what the hell was Stephen Hawking going to do with these girls ?”
Put them to sleep reading chapters from his book!
Very rarely does ANYWHERE criminalise teens sexual behaviour.
It’s about keeping adults away from manipulating children to “consent” through criminal sanctions
I can’t for certain say what Pizzagate was, but how anyone looked at the pictures from Comet Ping Pongs instagram, John and Tony Podestas art, John’s emails, the painting of the kids in the pool (infamous basement pool at the Vanderbily mansion – the heir of which is CNN’s Anderson Cooper) and think it was anything but fucking kids I do not know
but Prince Andrew being an over-sexed, corrupt, upper-class twit would have screwed up any trade deals he was involved in so obviously there had to be genuine expert negotiators monitoring him and having veto power over his decisions The same thing would have been done on the Arab side, they too probably had expert negotiators monitoring their over-sexed, corrupt, upper-class twits
After the deals were done, the twit idiots of both sides basked in the glory while the genuine negotiators could finally relax
That is the core idea of demarchy.
https://documents.uow.edu.au/~/bmartin/pubs/92kio/
I doubt that he is consciously trying, but he does produce confusion by linking self-contradictory behavioral evolutionary scenarios. First scenario, sociopathy is an adaptation for a fast life-history wherein the sociopath dies young but inseminates many females. Second scenario, sociopaths prefer the youngest possible reproductively-capable females because such females have reproductive longevity. Putting those two ideas together creates a big fat non sequitur because if the sociopathic male dies young, then the reproductive longevity of his barely pubescent baby-momma is of no evolutionary benefit to him.
As a rhetorical technique, Dutton makes a smashup of eco-evolutionary concepts and applies it to human behavior. Some of his speculations are plausible, but others are laughable.
I think any preference of elite males for young teens is more a matter of psychology than of evolutionary psychology. Narcissists are insecure, so more experienced women feel threatening to them. Hence, these elites consume the equivalent of MacDonald’s food, rather than feasting on the ravenous sexuality of actual women. Just another one of the ways in which the so-called elites are pitiable.
My Gawd! Don’t know what’s true or not.
https://theunclejohnsband.blogspot.com/2018/09/patterns-in-dark-occult-symbolism-and.html
Red shoes, troubling “art”, Marina Abramovich. Something is terribly wrong. If this is for real, we have humans psychotically believing they are like gods, licensed by Satan. They seem to laugh at their own evil.
There’s actually way worse than that out there in terms of evidence, but yes, that picture of the kids in the pool was that of the infamous basement pool in the Vanderbilt mansion
Anarchy is cleaner.
The Abduction of Johnny Gosch and the Franklin Scandal Coverup
https://www.winterwatch.net/2022/07/the-abduction-of-johnny-gosch-and-the-franklin-coverup/
Presented as being interesting reading. Not an endorsement or disendorsement.
Is sexual perversion correlated with being really smart? The scientists, engineers, and inventors who lifted civilization from stasis to reach for the stars often tend to be sexually low-key, or even inactive. No word on deviant sex lives involving Newton, Galileo, Faraday, Maxwell, Edison, Tesla, Wright Brothers, Shannon, Farnsworth, Shockley, or Wozniak.
But what if a society comes to be dominated by sexual deviants? Then it’s to be expected that they would support their own kind for positions of power in politics, business, and entertainment.
Let’s not forget, it’s ‘all about the Benjamins’. (One Benjamin in particular):
https://www.corruptico.com/2014/04/22/childrens-bodies-believed-buried-under-benjamin-franklins-home-in-litchfield-connecticut/
From the article:
There you have it. You Americans have honoured a kiddie fiddler, by placing his ugly melon on your $100 bill.
Why are so many of our “elites” sexually depraved? Maybe it’s because so many of our “elites” come from families that have no love, just money and power, as well as come from families that allow their own children to be either abused or forced to witness abuse or even Satanic ritual sacrifice. Plus since they are “elite” they know they can get away with it using bribes and death threats. Not only are these “elites” sexually depraved….they are just depraved, period…they seek money and power, not love and spiritual goodness.
I assume you speak of Ronald Bernard, one of the few that “left the reservation” so to speak, and either wound up murdered or threatened with murder.
Then you have a true member of a very “elite” and evil family who would not “toe the line” in their evil ways, but instead loved his wife and children and lived a somewhat normal life considering his wealth and status. His name? Amschel Rothschild, son of Victor Rothschild, who was murdered several years ago likely by his own evil Rothschild family…the media says he committed “suicide”…of course! Don’t the Rothschilds control the media?
I call it “The Murder Rule”, and I wrote a novel about this recently, available for free download PDF at my site https://omegabooksnet.com
As counterintuitive as it may seem, sex addiction is a very real thing. It’s quite a comment on the frailty of human nature that such a delightful and generally harmless pastime can evolve into a joyless compulsion that requires ever greater indulgence to satisfy. But it sort of goes with the territory: people who are drawn to celebrity, to public acclaim, to wealth and power are almost always addicted to the high that these things give them as well. There are two basic attitudes in all addictive behaviors, that there is no such thing as “enough” and that no act is too evil to do in order to get the next fix. Because the one in hand never quite does it for you any more. A “progressive disease”, addiction gets worse yet is so often incurable because its central delusion is that indulging in the addictive behavior is the one good thing in a life that has otherwise inexplicably turned to shit – because of the addiction’s unrecognized destructive power.
Galileo had three children out of wedlock. With the same woman, which may count as a form of common-law marriage now though it did not in Galileo’s time and place.
My feeling is that members of elites historically have extra opportunities for sexual encounters. There may never have been anything precisely like droit du seigneur in legal terms, but higher-status males helping themselves to lower-status and younger women – yes.
I wonder what percentage of gay men would find these boys attractive, even if they wouldn’t want to have sex with them for moral reasons (inability to legally consent to sex on these boys’ part):
BTW, just admitting that one finds any of the boys attractive, even if one condemns all cases of adult-child sex (excluding, say, 18-year-olds and 16-year-olds) and also condemns all cases of actual (as opposed to cartoon/animated) child porn will get one automatically permanently banned from Wikipedia. It’s a huge shame. People shouldn’t be banned from Wikipedia for being attracted to minors or even for being open about this fact so long as they don’t harm anyone and never intend to do so. Blocking their Wikipedia e-mail access could be more justifiable, though, as a precautionary measure.
One would think that elites with such tendencies should, at least if they’re open, honest, and retired, push for the legalization of child sex dolls/robots, no? Much better and much more moral than doing anything sexual with minors (which should obviously remain illegal), that’s for sure!
I wish that these boys would have underwent a hypothetical androgynous version of puberty so that their bodies and minds could become more mature while they would still keep their beautiful androgynous features (such as an androgynous face and a lack of body hair and facial hair).
First, is it really always “sick” and immoral to act on the natural sexual attraction to 16- and 17-year-old young women? Just about all of us had fairly recent ancestors who would have been surprised, possibly amused to hear it. Most of us wouldn’t be here, as “us”, if we somehow went back and un-did all the many lives (and often decent to happy marriages) created by such unions.
Second, did you perhaps mean it’s “sick” and immoral to have sex with 16- or 17-year-olds when you’re more than a couple years older than they are? Because even today, some U.S. States have a “close-in-age” exception to their “laws” criminalizing sex with 16- and 17-year-olds.
There was nothing necessarily “sick” or immoral about our ancestors having sex with women at those ages when they were willing to stick around and be loyal, permanently protecting and providing for those young women and their offspring.
By your standard, many of our American settlers, and our European and “british” forebears, were “sick” and immoral.
It’s normal and healthy to act on the powerful God-created natural attraction to young women who are five to seven years past the onset of puberty, IF the man is after much more than just an exploitative one-sided temporary encounter for nothing more than physical pleasure.
Of course, many men — probably the great majority of men in today’s debauched, cruel, anti-life, disloyal society — ARE after nothing more than that physical pleasure. They are a sound reason why we have such laws (in addition to the unsound reasons animating current age-of-consent laws such as unrealism, puritanism, anti-male hatred by less attractive and less pleasant women, increasing prevalence of the homosexuality disorder).
Having said all this, we ain’t living in Little House on the Prairie times. A man today who tries to have sex with a 16- or 17-year-old girl is almost NEVER looking for a monogamous lifetime commitment to that very young woman and the offspring that their union will likely produce. Moreover, very young (teenaged) women today are typically FAR less mature in their outlook and responsibilities, a far cry from 16- and 17-year-olds of either sex in America / European societies 150 or 250 years ago. Same is true of teenaged men, both minors and legal adults, today too, to be fair.
Another distinction is that legal-adult men trying to have sex with very young women today are doing it surreptitiously. Obviously these men are afraid of the girl’s parents and family finding out. Rarely is it a case of two families living in the same small town, so that the girl’s father and relatives have a good idea of the young man’s character and likely intentions and prospects, as it used to be. That is a big clue as to what the intentions and character of such men really are. Those kind of men deserve the treatment that my sons and I would mete out to them if they try to secretly “hook up” with one of my daughters at such an age.
I think you have a problem there, buddy. Stay away from our sons’ schools, playgrounds and athletic fields, alright?
And I wish that the moderator had rejected all of your comments on this matter. Get some help.
Please relax. I quite know that doing anything sexual at all with a child, including possessing and watching actual child porn, is evil and wrong. I’m overwhelmingly sexually attracted to other adults anyway.
Though I do support the legalization of child sex dolls. But I personally have no interest in them. I just want others to be able to have them as a viable alternative to castration.
I can achieve sexual satisfaction with other adults just fine, thank you very much! But I do wish that there was an androgynous version of puberty, including for myself back in the day.
In the days when homesteading Federal land was possible, the husband was necessarily several years older than the wife because it took him that much time to acquire tools, at least one horse, and a homestead with a house. Most of the women of his age cohort had already married, so naturally he had to obtain a wife from a younger age cohort.