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A Turkish television show had a 'debate' that attempted to disprove evolution, in which the audience was treated to some serious intellectual problems.
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They called in the question which evolution created angel and daemon, how felicities in the heaven evolved, how the snake came into existence out of the baton as well as the bird out of mud. The creationists tried to disprove evolution theory with these questions.

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I give up. They're right. Evolution cannot explain the origin of angels and demons. And that talking snake? It's a complete mystery to the world of science.

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[PZ Myers: "We're still beating Turkey!" (2009/08/16) on Pharyngula]

[Galapagos Finch: "Is There Evolution in Hell?" (2007/12/29) on Uncommon Descent]

Theistic evolutionists disagree. Debate at TheBRITES.org.

Is there evolution in hell? There is disagreement among theistic evolutionists.
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Commented by WinglesS 12/29/2007 5:17 am

This might be a joke, but it raises some interesting question for Theistic Evolutionists: Were angels and demons designed or evolved? Is evolution limited to the material plane?

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1. If they were designed, why canft it be the same for things in the material world?
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2. If they were evolved, how is this possible considering angel and demons possibly donft engage in sex.
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Well I admittedly donft really know the way Theistic Evolutionists think. Perhaps they can be Christian and yet disbelieve in angels.
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