2010/08/07

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==>ƒ‹ƒCƒWƒAƒiBLivingston ParishŠw‹æ‚ª‘n‘��˜_‹³ˆç‚Ö•à‚Ý‚¾‚· (2010/08/03)

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Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal signed into law last year an act that sets parameters for teachers who introduce scientific supplements on Darwinian evolution, global warming, human cloning and other controversial subjects. The state's Science Education Act encourages "open and objective discussion of scientific theories being studied." It specifically prohibits religious instruction or interpretations (or irreligious interpretations, for that matter). The law is simple, reasonable and avoids constitutional and scientific mistakes that afflicted earlier laws in Louisiana and elsewhere.

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But in Livingston Parish, east of Baton Rouge, some enthusiasts for a literal Biblical account of creation decided that the new law gives them authority to teach creationism -- the account from Genesis. That view clearly violates the law and also the U.S. Constitution as it long has been interpreted. Reported statements from Livingston school board member David Tate were so fallacious and confrontational that they could have been scripted by his supposed adversaries if they were looking for ways to make him look bad.

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"We just sit up here and let them teach evolution," Tate orated, "and not take a stand about creationism. To me, how come we don't look into this as people who are strong Christians and see what we can do to teach creationism in schools. We sit back and let the government tell us what to do. We don't pray to the ACLU and all them people: we pray to God."

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Tate's fulminations are not characteristic of the educators and legislators who passed the new Louisiana law, but you can be sure that the Darwinist opponents of the law will try to make them sound representative. The same thing happened in Dover, Pennsylvania, in 2005 when school board members decided to grab onto the phrase (not the reality) of "intelligent design" to promote religious doctrine.

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[Bruce Chapman:"A Classic Evolution Policy Blunder" (2010/08/04) on The American Spectator]
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Pew Research Center for the People & the Press and Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life survey conducted by Schulman, Ronca & Bucuvalas (SRBI). July 6-19, 2006. N=996 adults nationwide. MoE } 3.5.

"Would you generally favor or oppose teaching creationism along with evolution in public schools?"

Favor Oppose Unsure
% % %
7/6-19/06 58 35 7



CBS News/New York Times Poll. Nov. 18-21, 2004. N=885 adults nationwide. MoE } 3.

"Would you generally favor or oppose teaching creation along with evolution in public schools?"

Favor Oppose Unsure
% % %
11/2004 65 29 6

[Polling Report -- Science and Nature]
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The board members, as in Livingston, Louisiana, were as ignorant of the limits of the scientific case against strict Darwinism as they were of the content of intelligent design theory.

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2010/06/08

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University of Toronto‚̐��‰ÈŠw‚ÌLarry Moran‹³Žö‚ªAƒCƒ“ƒeƒŠƒWƒFƒ“ƒgƒfƒUƒCƒ“‚Ì–{ŽR‚½‚éDiscovery Institute‚ÌŒöŽ®ƒuƒƒO‚ÌRichard Sternberg‚ÌŠÔˆá‚��‚ɃcƒbƒRƒ~‚ð“ü‚ꂽF
Richard Sternberg thinks that introns are important. He has to think that way because he's an Intelligent Design Creationist and the idea that introns could be mostly junk and not have a function isn't part of his faith

Richard Sternberg‚̓Cƒ“ƒgƒƒ“‚ªd—v‚¾‚ƍl‚¦‚��‚éB”Þ‚ª‚»‚¤l‚¦‚È‚¯‚ê‚΂Ȃç‚Ȃ��‚̂́A”Þ‚ªƒCƒ“ƒeƒŠƒWƒFƒ“ƒgƒfƒUƒCƒ“‘n‘��˜_ŽÒ‚Å‚ ‚èAuƒCƒ“ƒgƒƒ“‚̑唼‚ªƒWƒƒƒ“ƒN‚Å‹@”\‚ðŽ‚Á‚��‚Ȃ��‚�}‚ƁF‚ªA”ނ̐M‹Â‚ɂȂ��‚©‚炾B
So letfs do the math. At least ninety percent of gene transcripts undergo alternative splicing, and there are at least 190,000 introns in the human genome. That means we have at least 0.90 x 190,000 = 171,000 introns that participate in the alternative-splicing pathway(s) available to a cell.

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[Richard Sternberg: "Mathesonfs Intron Fairy Tale" (2010/06/03)].
It's up to you, dear readers, to figure out all the things wrong with this explanation. You can start with the math. Arithmetic isn't one of their strong points. Or maybe it's an understanding of biology that's the real weak point?

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[Larry Moran: "Creationists, Introns, and Fairly Tales" (2010/06/03) on Sandwalk via PZ Myers]
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ƒCƒ“ƒeƒŠƒWƒFƒ“ƒgƒfƒUƒCƒ“ŽxŽŽÒRichard Sternberg‚͐FXŠÔˆá‚Á‚��‚邪A–¾‚ç‚©‚ɍ‘Œê‚Ì–â‘è‚Æ‚µ‚ÄŠÔˆá‚Á‚��‚é‚̂́uˆâ“`Žq“]ŽÊ‚̏­‚È‚­‚Æ‚à90%‚Í‘I‘ð“IƒXƒvƒ‰ƒCƒVƒ“ƒO‚ðŒoŒï¿½}‚·‚év‚©‚çuï¿½~–E‚ÅŽg‚¦‚é‘I‘ð“IƒXƒvƒ‰ƒCƒVƒ“ƒOŒo˜H‚ÌŠÖ—^‚·‚éƒCƒ“ƒgƒƒ“‚ª­‚È‚­‚Æ‚à 0.90 �~ 190,000 = 171,000ŒÂ‚ ‚év‚Ƃ��‚¤“_Bˆâ“`Žq“]ŽÊ‚Ì90%‚ÆŒ¾‚��‚È‚ª‚çAŒvŽZ‚̓Cƒ“ƒgƒƒ“‚̐”B

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Imagine my surprise when Sternberg responded with a "correction"!

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So letfs do the math. Again. I will make the task easy for everyone\even Moran and Matheson:

Step 1. There are ~25,000 protein-coding genes in the human genome.
Step 2. There are 190,000 introns/25,000 protein-coding genes = 7.6 introns/gene on average.
Step 3. Ninety percent (possibly more) of gene transcripts undergo alternative splicing. Hence, 0.9 x 25,000 = 22,500 genes (actually, their RNAs) undergo alternative splicing.

Therefore, 22,500 genes x 7.6 introns/gene = 171,000 introns involved in alternative splicing.

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  1. 25000ŒÂ‚̈â“`ŽqƒR[ƒfƒBƒ“ƒO‚ªlŠÔ‚̃Qƒmƒ€‚É‚ ‚é
  2. 19000ƒCƒ“ƒgƒƒ“^25000ƒ^ƒ“ƒpƒNŽ¿ƒR[ƒfƒBƒ“ƒOˆâ“`Žq=7.8ŒÂ/ˆâ“`Žq
  3. 90%(‚�N‚»‚ç‚­‚»‚êˆÈãj‚̈â“`Žq“]ŽÊ‚Í‘I‘ð“IƒXƒvƒ‰ƒCƒVƒ“ƒO‚ðŒoŒï¿½}‚·‚éB‚µ‚½‚ª‚Á‚āA0.9 x 25000 = 22500ŒÂ‚̈â“`ŽqiŽÀÛ‚ÍRNDA‚¾‚ªj‚ª‘I‘ð“IƒXƒvƒ‰ƒCƒVƒ“ƒO‚ðŒoŒï¿½}‚·‚éB

    ‚µ‚½‚ª‚Á‚āA22500ˆâ“`Žq/7.6ƒCƒ“ƒgƒƒ“ 171000ŒÂ‚̃Cƒ“ƒgƒƒ“‚ª‘I‘ð“IƒXƒvƒ‰ƒCƒVƒ“ƒO‚ÉŠÖ—^—\’肵‚��‚é‚’B

    [Richard Sternberg : "Let's Do the Math Again" (2010/06/04)]
We could quibble about the number of introns\I think it's closer to 150,000. We could quibble about the number of protein encoding genes\the most accurate number is 20,500. We could quibble about how many genes exhibit alternative splicing\I think it's about 5%, not 95%. You can't be expected to know the facts and the controversies since this is way outside your area of expertise.

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So, let's assume your facts are correct. If 90% of genes exhibit alternative splicing then this means 22,500 genes. You got that calculation right. The minimum number of introns that must be involved in alternative splicing is one (1) per gene. That means at least 22,500 introns involved in alternative splicing. You made the mistaken (and stupid) assumption that every intron in a gene had to be alternatively spliced.

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The fact that you repeated this false assumption, even after being warned, does not enhance your credibility. I conclude that you don't understand RNA processing or alternative splicing. In spite of your ignorance you wrote up a posting attacking Steve Matheson and defending your colleague Steve Meyer. That's why we call you IDiots.

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[Larry Moran: "IDiots Do Arithmetic a Second Time - Same Result" (2010/06/04) on Sandwalk via PZ Myers]


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First, taken seriously, this is quite obviously a theistic form of design that simply tries to locate all the designing activity at the beginning--in the cosmic fine-tuning and initial conditions. The design does real work, and there's no reason that the effects of that design would not be empirically detectable (as long as we have an open-minded, nonpositivist view of science). As a simple analogy, think of front-loading this way. If I shoot a gun at a target and hit it, I've intentionally aimed the bullet at the beginning, even though the bullet's trajectory follows the rules of gravity, momentum, etc. In God's case, of course, he would also establish the law-like rules and superintend them. All I can do when I shoot a gun is take them into account.

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Second, some front-loading and fine-tuning is not only compatible with but necessary for Steve's argument. But I think the argument that everything can be explained this way doesn't capture the details of Steve's argument about information at the origin of life.

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Third, even if it's possible for God to frontload things in this way, it hardly follows that this is a better explanation than the one Steve proposes, which is (at least implicitly) (1) that matter shows degrees of freedom inconsistent with such complete front-loading and (2) that intelligence plays an active and detectable role within cosmic history, and probably is not limited in the way proposed (or suggested) by Conway Morris and others.

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John G West‚Ì"Dehumanized in the Name of Science" (6/7) ‘��‹ê‚µ‚��Œ¾˜_‚ÌŽ©—R

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Stifling Free Speech

A final influence of scientific materialism on public policy has been the suppressing of free speech and debate over the public policy implications of science. This is surely one of the most striking ironies of the effort to enlist scientific materialism to reform society.

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In their own minds, proponents of scientific materialism were the defenders of enlightenment against superstition and rational debate against unreasoning dogmatism, but the rhetoric they employed against their opponents is often far from conducive to open debate. The repeated insistence that scientists know best and, thus, politicians and the public should blindly accept the policy views of scientists did not encourage critical scrutiny of scientific claims made in politics.

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Even less conducive to genuine debate was the frequent playing of the religion card in policy disputes involving science. With the help of sympathetic journalists, proponents of scientific materialism portrayed every policy dispute as a battle pitting the enlightened forces of science against bigoted religious extremists. Promoters of eugenics heaped scorn on Catholic and fundamentalist critics of forced sterilization. Advocates of Kinsey-style sex education demonized parents who raised objections as Bible-thumpers who were conspiring against democracy. Today, defenders of a Darwin-only biology curriculum similarly accuse their opponents of trying to insert the Biblical creation story into science classes, even when such claims are inaccurate.

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Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of these attempts to frame policy disputes in terms of religion versus science is the attempt to shift the focus from the content of the debates to the supposed motives of those who oppose any claim made in the name of science. Instead of addressing the policy arguments raised by critics of sex education or Darwin-only science education, defenders of scientific materialism try to make the religious beliefs of their opponents the central issue, arguing that critics' real or perceived religious motivations somehow disqualify them from being active participants in the public square.

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America is a deeply religious country, and no doubt many critics of the agenda of scientific materialism are motivated in part by their religious beliefs. So what? Many opponents of slavery were motivated by their religious beliefs, and many leaders of the civil rights movement were even members of the clergy. All of them had an equal right with other citizens to raise their voices in public debates. So long as religious persons in politics offer secular justifications for their policy proposals, they have every right to demand that their ideas be heard on the merits regardless of their private religious views.

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In the controversy over the teaching of Darwinian theory in public education, reporters often note the supposed religious beliefs of critics of Darwin's theory, but they almost never investigate the anti-religious beliefs of many of the leading defenders of evolutionary theory. Why? Motives are either relevant for both sides of a political dispute, or they are irrelevant to either side. The willingness of some reporters to embrace uncritically the agenda of Darwinists represents a grave disservice to the public as well as a serious breach of journalistic ethics. Given the troubled legacy of scientific materialism in public policy, what is needed is greater critical scrutiny of scientific materialism in politics, not less.

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Conservatives who are uncomfortable with current debates over science and public policy need to realize that the debates are not going to go away, because scientific materialism raises fundamental challenges to the traditional Western understanding of human nature and the universe. Scientific materialism is central to arguments over moral relativism, personal responsibility, limited government, and scientific utopianism.

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Moreover, these debates are not going away because many of America's most influential scientists are avowed materialists, and it is nearly impossible for them to separate their materialism from their policy recommendations. Nearly 95 percent of biologists in the National Academy of Sciences, for example, identify themselves as either atheists or agnostics. We are not supposed to wonder how their materialism influences their application of scientific expertise to public affairs?

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As members of a free society, we should be willing to defend vigorously the right of laypeople and scientists to voice dissent from the current scientific consensus, whether the issue is global warming, the over-prescription of Ritalin for children, the content of sex education, or even the debate over Darwinism and intelligent design.

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We do not always have to agree with dissenters in order to defend their right to present their views free from harassment and intimidation. But if we are unwilling to defend their right to debate scientific issues implicating public policy, we have no grounds for complaint when the agenda of the scientific elites leads to coercive utopianism or when every attempt to raise a different point of view is smeared as an attack on science.

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Contrary to the assertions of some, robust public scrutiny of claims made in the name of science does not constitute a "war against science." Indeed, it may be the very thing that saves science from its own excesses.

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LUCIUS: Dr Zaius, this is inexcusable! Why must knowledge stand still? What about the future?
ZAIUS: I may just have saved it for you.
LUSIUS: What will he find out there, doctor?
ZAIUS: His destiny.
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