back to article Say hello to the epi-bit, a new approach to DNA data storage

Scientists have developed a new approach to using DNA as a data storage medium, slashing the cost and time of writing to the biological substance. For decades, scientists have been studying the potential of deoxyribonucleic acid, which contains the genetic instructions for the development and function of an organism, as a …

  1. Martin Summers

    And soon after commercial realisation, we will see the first biological real computer virus?

    Just got to go vaccinate the PC...

    1. Fruit and Nutcase Silver badge
      Joke

      And soon after commercial realisation

      That would be for the storage of porn

      1. b0llchit Silver badge
        Coat

        You mean, bacteria multiplying with sex?

        1. Neil Barnes Silver badge

          Surely bacteria are asexual?

          1. b0llchit Silver badge
            Coat

            Not when porn is involved!

      2. Mentat74
        Joke

        Well... They were talking about a chinese rubbing...

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  3. b0llchit Silver badge
    Alert

    Evolution

    Picture this, the natural biome interacting with the storage. Plenty opportunity for Frankenstein Monsters evolving from the data.

  4. ThatOne Silver badge

    Dubious

    Slow (DNA is a highly specialized WORM medium), not very resilient (decays), what is there not to like? There might be a reason Nature doesn't use DNA for RAM (aka "everyday memory"), just saying.

    1. DJO Silver badge

      Re: Dubious

      The main issue it's a bugger to read.

      Nature uses transcriptase to copy segments to RNA fragments and then the ribosomes deal with those to make proteins etc. There other ways it handles DNA but that is the most common.

      We have to use sodding great machines to duplicate and read the DNA strands, slowly, very slowly.

      Fun fact - If you took all the cellular nuclear DNA from a human and stretched it out end-to-end. That person would be very dead. Also the strand would reach from here to the sun, roughly 13 times.

      If you took ALL the DNA in a human including mitochondrial DNA, the DNA in all the bacteria and the various microscopic critters that live in and on us it would probably exceed 40 AU in length

      1. ThatOne Silver badge

        Re: Dubious

        > The main issue it's a bugger to read.

        That too. It's a highly specialized encoding system, fine-tuned over many millions of years for one and only task. It's a bugger to do anything else with it. Even Nature realized it, and when it needed something to store/process information with, it choose a different system.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Dubious

        Best not to end up in a Chinese prison, then.

      3. LybsterRoy Silver badge

        Re: Dubious

        -- That person would be very dead. --

        You deserve an extra upvote for that <G>

    2. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

      Re: Dubious

      Add to those shortcomings the fact nature doesn't always copy DNA correctly.

      There's only one explanation for this interest: GRANTS.

    3. Spoobistle
      Boffin

      Re: Epi feat

      There are more practical reasons. This is a bit like saying "get 12% extra RAM by using those ECC bits".

      Biology doesn't put methyl groups on DNA for prettyfication, it is a marker for a purpose (e.g. defence against pathogens, turning some genes on or off in response to environment... there is a whole field called epigenetics dealing with this). So if you use a biological system to process or reproduce this DNA, you'll have to be sure the data isn't erased or corrupted. At that point you might be better just redesigning the system from the ground up with non-natural bases etc.

      Incidentally if you want to compare I'd say DNA is more like tape backup, as it not infrequently needs to be unwound from histones to be read. It's also more stable then you would think, because of the deoxy function which slows down non-biological degradation hugely. RNA, especially mRNA is more like RAM, it is used for working copies and has a much shorter biological lifetime.

      Of course it is the sort of work that raises institutional profiles and gets good publicity, so can't blame the boffins for milking it a bit.

  5. seldom

    New Tech

    I'm sure that in ten years it will be commercially available. Installed in flying cars and fusion reactors.

    1. Mike007 Silver badge

      Re: New Tech

      DNA based computers will enable full self flying.

      Just don't scrutinise that statement too closely, DNA based reader.

  6. John Smith 19 Gold badge
    Unhappy

    "writing data was 40 bits per second"

    I'm reminded of the Colossus computer used for code breaking. It's optical paper tape reader was 5000 characters a second in WWII.The tape moved about 30mph*

    OTOH very compact. True (potentially) 3d storage.

    *AFAIK an unbeaten record. In the early 60's a Scandinavian company did one at 2000cps and that was thought amazing. Ultra was still completely secret at that time.

  7. Michael Hoffmann Silver badge
    Trollface

    Oh...

    I thought it was about better ways to store MY DNA, hopefully to be resurrected into a better world.

    (Seeing as only a better world that hasn't gone full dystopian apocalypse, which we're currently on track for, would be able to raise me from my DNA. Never mind my memories, happy to replace them with how to fly my private space yacht).

    1. ravenviz Silver badge

      Re: Oh...

      Your DNA is going be used as a backup of Hungry Horace.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    They’ll be using bird DNA

    Less corruption you see, due to it having an extra parroty bit.

    I’ll get me coat

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: They’ll be using bird DNA

      That left me quite blue

  9. Adair Silver badge

    Looks like...

    tape backups will still be around for a while yet.

  10. Chairman of the Bored

    Let's combine these concepts...

    ... Tapeworm backup! Use worm DNA. The ultimate tape backup. It will all come out OK in the end

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