2007年 04月 24日
The enigma of the Virginia Tech Massacre still remains
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Below is an excerpt from a dialogue with blackdaisies, aragog, and harry11111 at Explanation of this blog.. in Tomlinson V MI6 (blogs are Forever...).
#exodus2005 Says:
April 21st, 2007 at 6:49 pm
I have not yet catched up in the flood of information on the Virginia Tech maassacre, it looks like quite mysterious. http://cryptogon.com/?p=636
# blackdaisies Says:
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:07 am
They are investigating it now. I hope they find something that will give them a better idea of what happened.
# exodus2005 Says:
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:55 am
1. Mysterious 2 hours blank: Why they failed to stop the second rampage? Even the school has loudspeakers stationed throughout the campus…
2. Police apprehended Karl D. Thornhill, the boyfriend of the first victim, Emily J. Hilscher after the first shooting. Unaccountable and unbelievable wrong arrest. First thing to do is disarmament of killers.
3. The killing rate is too high of 32 killed in 62 shot. Almost impossible for a nonprofessional with that light weapons as 9mm. Where and when he trained up in such a level? A photo apparently pictured Cho is circulating the web. His jacket says “HU”, “U.S. MARINES.”
4. Some report says killed 33. Doesn’t it implicitly tell that the perpetrator, Cho Seung Hui was also *killed* (not a suicide)?
5. It is reported that Cho took the videos by himself between the first shooting and the second with his cellphone camera. Unbelievable.
6. Among the videos, there exists one clip recorded at a location inside a car. Did Cho own a car of himself?
7. It is said that Cho posted the package sent to NBC within the 2 hours hiatus. Then tell me where is the post-office or the mailbox in the campus. Even if it was, it is very possible someone had witnessed.
8. The key person is the killer’s older sister, Cho Sun Kyung***. She is a very smart woman, graduated Princeton University, and employed at a company named McNeil Technologies known their covert intelligence activity including prisoner interrogations for the Defense Department. The company is owned by Veritas Capital which has the Defense & Aerospace Advisory Council, some board members are associated with CFR.
9. The most remarkable: the Grand Prix award 2003 Korean film “Oldboy” as in a photo Cho posed with a hammer quite the similar way in the movie. This film is a story about the tragedy with respect to incest.
10. Thus the question is if Cho was mind-controlled or not to trigger the massacre for the tool of mass manipulation by a secret organization to which his sister either belongs or relates.
11. CIA recruited Virginia Tech intensely these years. Students protested CIA promotion in the campus. As you know CIA has developed every unlawful tactics to torture and mind-control like waterboarding, especially in the offshore interrogation sites.
12. Cathy O’Brien was a CIA mind-controlled presidential-model sex slave. Immediately after the shootings Cathy re-iterated at her website the revelations in her latest book, that Blacksburg Virginia is a central location for mind control programs that are still ongoing.
13. Perhaps there were much more things to be explained.
# harry11111 Says:
April 23rd, 2007 at 10:11 am
I agree with both of you, Exodus and blackdaisies and would like to add that my heart goes out to that poor young man, villified on all of those newspapers internationally.
He had obviously been horrendously abused and put under the most hideous form of mind control.
My prayers are with him. G-d bless him and may those who made him suffer in such a terrible way, meet their nemesis in the near future.
My prayers are obviously with his victims too - nobody deserves to die in such a way and it is clear that the murders were random, in the main. He had simply flipped and decided to take his whole world out with him.
Whatever propaganda may rage about his secret ’sex obsessions’ etc. I am almost completely sure this is false - a cover to tarnish that poor young man even more, put about by his mind control programmers who must have been seriously frightened by this tragedy.
What if he had managed to get them?
What if it were a fault in programming and there are others like him who might be more accurate in their assassination targets, taking out the ones who are the real culprits - the true murderers and paedophiles behind this mind control cult.
# exodus2005 Says:
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:27 pm
harry11111: Thanks for your sympathetic reply.
The above is my early analysis and I found some supplemental facts against my theory. for example, Cho mostly used 22mm* gun rather than 9mm from much closer distance than the expected. Experts consider that the videos were produced in advance to the event in about a week. A postage office was actually near the campus and Cho went there by a rent-a-car which supposedly he rented about a week ago**. etc, etc… But of course the enigma of the incident still remains.
It is sure that our contemporary culture, specifically of US, like violent games, TV shows, movies, videos, pornographies, drugs and the flood of information of real crimes caused dreadful effects on him. All of our children are exposed to these hazards daily. It might be true virtually that the kind of culture is being produced intentionally by invisible crime syndicates/organizations.
Amongst these materials, I’m certain that the movie, “Oldboy” was the core issue. Refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldboy. The movie would answer the question why the murders were random. In short he had to kill all the people who knows his secret, that of course was his obsession. I’ve heard that he had went to a church very often. I’m afraid that the church was disable/of impotence to save his soul. I don’t think that so-called counseling would be the alternative of genuine redemption.
At the moment I’m not sure if it was involved with a conspiracy, i.e., mind-control or not. But certainly it is often observed that some personal experience of early sexual-abuses ties to/accelerates their mind-control operations as was in the O’Brien case.
Theft is a sin. But a thief cannot admit he is guilty with the crime itself. What makes him feel guilty is a feeling that his crime might be *known* by someone else. If he could believe that nobody knows his activity, he feels free. Every criminal acts like that, including political figures. The point is, "a crime is a sin because God knows you".
*Wrong. The weapons used at VT were the Glock 19 9mm and the Walther P22 (22-caliber = 0.22inches = 5.6mm). ref.
**Wrong. Cho rented a van on March 12 from Enterprise Rent-A-Car at the Roanoke Regional Airport and kept it more than a month.
***Cho Sun-kyung was a member of the Princeton branch of the Wellington Boone Ministries, a radical right-wing evangelical movement with the nearest doctrinaire belief to the Unification Church. Wellington Boone is the founder of Manna Christian Fellowship which has focused extensively on recruiting from within the Asian student bodies of the top Universities. Rev. David Kim, the director of the Manna Christian Fellowship at Princeton University is now involved in the PR and media spin on this story. Sun-kyung met Kim to talk about her guilt in the aftermath of her brother’s killings. ref.
# babalabo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:18 am
harry1111:
>What if it were a fault in programming and there are others like him who might be more accurate in their assassination targets, taking out the ones who are the real culprits - the true murderers and pedophiles behind this mind control cult.
You are right when you say “it were a fault in programming” as Cho was abnormally wordless. It might be not what they had expected. However they are as almighty as were able to turn one’s miserable failure into bright(in their view) success. Iraq War was their dreadful failure but the disaster and the internal strife in the country is rather desirable for them.
“In class, some students thought he might be a deaf-mute. A classmate once offered him $10 just to say hello but got nothing. He hunched there in sunglasses, a baseball cap yanked tight over his head. Sometimes Mr. Cho introduced himself as “Question Mark,” saying it was the persona of a man who lived on Mars and journeyed to Jupiter. On the sign-in sheet of a literature class, he simply scribbled a question mark instead of his name.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/us/
aragog:
You mentioned “COSMOS PROGRAMMING”. Very interesting as Cho once said to his classmates “He lived on Mars and journeyed to Jupiter”. Wasn’t he just talking about what he had *really* experienced. Dr who admittedly resonates with Cho’s “?”=”Who I am?”.
Blog Ranking Thanks in Advance.
MASSACRE AT VIRGINIA TECH (CNN, 2007-04)
Virginia Tech Shooting - AP's Map and Eyewitness Accounts (AP News)
Wreck kills Virginia Tech student from Chesapeake (roanoke.com, 2007-04-24)
Legal loophole gives mentally ill access to guns (CNN, 2007-04-23)
Interactive Graphics: Recounting the Events at Virginia Tech (NYT, 2007-04-23)
Blacksburg pastor: Don't surrender to the darkness (CNN, Special Report)
Medical examiner: Cho died from bullet to temple (CNN, 2007-04-22)
The killer of room 2121 (Guardian, 2007-04-22)
CHO TRAINED FOR TECH SLAUGHTER (NEW YORK POST, 2007-04-22)
Investigators piece together Cho's spending spree (roanoke.com, 2007-04-22)
‘He ... made the world weep,’ Cho’s family says (MSNBC, 2007-04-21)
Photo Evidence that Virginia Tech Killer was a Marine (?) (WUFYS, 2007-04-21)
FBI protecting killer’s immediate family (JoongAng Daily, 2007-04-21)
News - Cho ties to Manna Christian Fellowship (The Conspiracy Theory Blogger, 2007-04-21)
Mom: My son was in the room when Cho killed himself (CNN, 2007-04-20)
Witness: The Dormitory Murders (TIME, 2007-04-20)
Gunman Sent Material to NBC (KCTV 5 NEWS, 2007-04-20)
Delete The Commands: The Connections You're Supposed to Make (Waking the Midnight Sun, 2007-04-20)
Seung-Hui Cho Was a Mind Controlled Assassin (PrisonPlanet.com, 2007-04-19)
A 'Danger to Himself' But Can Still Buy a Gun (The Blotter, 2007-04-19)
Cho Seung-hui and the Not So Secret School (Draeam's End, 2007-04-19)
Gunman's mad manifesto (TRONTO STAR, 2007-04-19)
Virginia Tech Shooting: I've Already Seen Enough (cryptgon.com, 2007-04-18)
Updates on Virginia Tech (NYT, 2007-04-18)
Va. Tech shooting's 'horrible coincidence' (Chicago Tribune, 2007-04-18)
We Need To Question The Authorities About The Virginia Tech Massacre (Cutkomp, 2007-04-18)
Where Cho Bought His Deadly Weapon (TIME, 2007-04-18)
Hello, how are you?' asked US gunman (iol.co.za, 2007-04-18)
University convocation told of Allah, not Jesus (WorldNetDaily, 2007-04-17)
Virginia Tech shootings timeline (CNN, 2007-04-17)
Cho Seoung-Hui’s Plays --- Fulltext (NYT, 2007-04-17)
Brian Ross' Gun Idiocy Rides Again (Confederate Yankee, 2007-04-17)
Massacre Gun: $571 for 9 mm Glock and 50 Bullets at Roanoke Store (The Blotter, 2007-04-17)
VA Massacre Proves Government Can't Protect You (PrisonPlanet.com, 2007-04-17)
Threat of Another 9/11 Closes Detorit Area Schools on Same Day as the Virginia Tech Shootings (AssociatedContent, 2007-04-17)
From Mark & Cathy - April 16, 2007 (Transformation of America, 2007-04-16)
Sunday Food for Thought: Unanswered Wake-up Calls (liberal catnip, 2007-04-15)
Predicted: More Copycat School Shootings (Loren Coleman, MSW
, 2006-09-26)
They Thought They Were Free (Information Clearing House, 2006-09-02)
'Promise Keepers' Mind Control Techniques (Educate-Yourself, 2004-06-11)
#exodus2005 Says:
April 21st, 2007 at 6:49 pm
I have not yet catched up in the flood of information on the Virginia Tech maassacre, it looks like quite mysterious. http://cryptogon.com/?p=636
# blackdaisies Says:
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:07 am
They are investigating it now. I hope they find something that will give them a better idea of what happened.
# exodus2005 Says:
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:55 am
1. Mysterious 2 hours blank: Why they failed to stop the second rampage? Even the school has loudspeakers stationed throughout the campus…
2. Police apprehended Karl D. Thornhill, the boyfriend of the first victim, Emily J. Hilscher after the first shooting. Unaccountable and unbelievable wrong arrest. First thing to do is disarmament of killers.
3. The killing rate is too high of 32 killed in 62 shot. Almost impossible for a nonprofessional with that light weapons as 9mm. Where and when he trained up in such a level? A photo apparently pictured Cho is circulating the web. His jacket says “HU”, “U.S. MARINES.”
4. Some report says killed 33. Doesn’t it implicitly tell that the perpetrator, Cho Seung Hui was also *killed* (not a suicide)?
5. It is reported that Cho took the videos by himself between the first shooting and the second with his cellphone camera. Unbelievable.
6. Among the videos, there exists one clip recorded at a location inside a car. Did Cho own a car of himself?
7. It is said that Cho posted the package sent to NBC within the 2 hours hiatus. Then tell me where is the post-office or the mailbox in the campus. Even if it was, it is very possible someone had witnessed.
8. The key person is the killer’s older sister, Cho Sun Kyung***. She is a very smart woman, graduated Princeton University, and employed at a company named McNeil Technologies known their covert intelligence activity including prisoner interrogations for the Defense Department. The company is owned by Veritas Capital which has the Defense & Aerospace Advisory Council, some board members are associated with CFR.
9. The most remarkable: the Grand Prix award 2003 Korean film “Oldboy” as in a photo Cho posed with a hammer quite the similar way in the movie. This film is a story about the tragedy with respect to incest.10. Thus the question is if Cho was mind-controlled or not to trigger the massacre for the tool of mass manipulation by a secret organization to which his sister either belongs or relates.
11. CIA recruited Virginia Tech intensely these years. Students protested CIA promotion in the campus. As you know CIA has developed every unlawful tactics to torture and mind-control like waterboarding, especially in the offshore interrogation sites.
12. Cathy O’Brien was a CIA mind-controlled presidential-model sex slave. Immediately after the shootings Cathy re-iterated at her website the revelations in her latest book, that Blacksburg Virginia is a central location for mind control programs that are still ongoing.
13. Perhaps there were much more things to be explained.
# harry11111 Says:
April 23rd, 2007 at 10:11 am
I agree with both of you, Exodus and blackdaisies and would like to add that my heart goes out to that poor young man, villified on all of those newspapers internationally.
He had obviously been horrendously abused and put under the most hideous form of mind control.
My prayers are with him. G-d bless him and may those who made him suffer in such a terrible way, meet their nemesis in the near future.
My prayers are obviously with his victims too - nobody deserves to die in such a way and it is clear that the murders were random, in the main. He had simply flipped and decided to take his whole world out with him.
Whatever propaganda may rage about his secret ’sex obsessions’ etc. I am almost completely sure this is false - a cover to tarnish that poor young man even more, put about by his mind control programmers who must have been seriously frightened by this tragedy.
What if he had managed to get them?
What if it were a fault in programming and there are others like him who might be more accurate in their assassination targets, taking out the ones who are the real culprits - the true murderers and paedophiles behind this mind control cult.
# exodus2005 Says:
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:27 pm
harry11111: Thanks for your sympathetic reply.
The above is my early analysis and I found some supplemental facts against my theory. for example, Cho mostly used 22mm* gun rather than 9mm from much closer distance than the expected. Experts consider that the videos were produced in advance to the event in about a week. A postage office was actually near the campus and Cho went there by a rent-a-car which supposedly he rented about a week ago**. etc, etc… But of course the enigma of the incident still remains.
It is sure that our contemporary culture, specifically of US, like violent games, TV shows, movies, videos, pornographies, drugs and the flood of information of real crimes caused dreadful effects on him. All of our children are exposed to these hazards daily. It might be true virtually that the kind of culture is being produced intentionally by invisible crime syndicates/organizations.
Amongst these materials, I’m certain that the movie, “Oldboy” was the core issue. Refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldboy. The movie would answer the question why the murders were random. In short he had to kill all the people who knows his secret, that of course was his obsession. I’ve heard that he had went to a church very often. I’m afraid that the church was disable/of impotence to save his soul. I don’t think that so-called counseling would be the alternative of genuine redemption.
At the moment I’m not sure if it was involved with a conspiracy, i.e., mind-control or not. But certainly it is often observed that some personal experience of early sexual-abuses ties to/accelerates their mind-control operations as was in the O’Brien case.
Theft is a sin. But a thief cannot admit he is guilty with the crime itself. What makes him feel guilty is a feeling that his crime might be *known* by someone else. If he could believe that nobody knows his activity, he feels free. Every criminal acts like that, including political figures. The point is, "a crime is a sin because God knows you".
*Wrong. The weapons used at VT were the Glock 19 9mm and the Walther P22 (22-caliber = 0.22inches = 5.6mm). ref.
**Wrong. Cho rented a van on March 12 from Enterprise Rent-A-Car at the Roanoke Regional Airport and kept it more than a month.
***Cho Sun-kyung was a member of the Princeton branch of the Wellington Boone Ministries, a radical right-wing evangelical movement with the nearest doctrinaire belief to the Unification Church. Wellington Boone is the founder of Manna Christian Fellowship which has focused extensively on recruiting from within the Asian student bodies of the top Universities. Rev. David Kim, the director of the Manna Christian Fellowship at Princeton University is now involved in the PR and media spin on this story. Sun-kyung met Kim to talk about her guilt in the aftermath of her brother’s killings. ref.
# babalabo Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:18 am
harry1111:
>What if it were a fault in programming and there are others like him who might be more accurate in their assassination targets, taking out the ones who are the real culprits - the true murderers and pedophiles behind this mind control cult.
You are right when you say “it were a fault in programming” as Cho was abnormally wordless. It might be not what they had expected. However they are as almighty as were able to turn one’s miserable failure into bright(in their view) success. Iraq War was their dreadful failure but the disaster and the internal strife in the country is rather desirable for them.
“In class, some students thought he might be a deaf-mute. A classmate once offered him $10 just to say hello but got nothing. He hunched there in sunglasses, a baseball cap yanked tight over his head. Sometimes Mr. Cho introduced himself as “Question Mark,” saying it was the persona of a man who lived on Mars and journeyed to Jupiter. On the sign-in sheet of a literature class, he simply scribbled a question mark instead of his name.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/22/us/
aragog:
You mentioned “COSMOS PROGRAMMING”. Very interesting as Cho once said to his classmates “He lived on Mars and journeyed to Jupiter”. Wasn’t he just talking about what he had *really* experienced. Dr who admittedly resonates with Cho’s “?”=”Who I am?”.
Blog Ranking Thanks in Advance.
MASSACRE AT VIRGINIA TECH (CNN, 2007-04)
Virginia Tech Shooting - AP's Map and Eyewitness Accounts (AP News)
Wreck kills Virginia Tech student from Chesapeake (roanoke.com, 2007-04-24)
Legal loophole gives mentally ill access to guns (CNN, 2007-04-23)
Interactive Graphics: Recounting the Events at Virginia Tech (NYT, 2007-04-23)
Blacksburg pastor: Don't surrender to the darkness (CNN, Special Report)
Medical examiner: Cho died from bullet to temple (CNN, 2007-04-22)
The killer of room 2121 (Guardian, 2007-04-22)
CHO TRAINED FOR TECH SLAUGHTER (NEW YORK POST, 2007-04-22)
Investigators piece together Cho's spending spree (roanoke.com, 2007-04-22)
‘He ... made the world weep,’ Cho’s family says (MSNBC, 2007-04-21)
Photo Evidence that Virginia Tech Killer was a Marine (?) (WUFYS, 2007-04-21)
FBI protecting killer’s immediate family (JoongAng Daily, 2007-04-21)
News - Cho ties to Manna Christian Fellowship (The Conspiracy Theory Blogger, 2007-04-21)
Mom: My son was in the room when Cho killed himself (CNN, 2007-04-20)
Witness: The Dormitory Murders (TIME, 2007-04-20)
Gunman Sent Material to NBC (KCTV 5 NEWS, 2007-04-20)
Delete The Commands: The Connections You're Supposed to Make (Waking the Midnight Sun, 2007-04-20)
Seung-Hui Cho Was a Mind Controlled Assassin (PrisonPlanet.com, 2007-04-19)
A 'Danger to Himself' But Can Still Buy a Gun (The Blotter, 2007-04-19)
Cho Seung-hui and the Not So Secret School (Draeam's End, 2007-04-19)
Gunman's mad manifesto (TRONTO STAR, 2007-04-19)
Virginia Tech Shooting: I've Already Seen Enough (cryptgon.com, 2007-04-18)
Updates on Virginia Tech (NYT, 2007-04-18)
Va. Tech shooting's 'horrible coincidence' (Chicago Tribune, 2007-04-18)
We Need To Question The Authorities About The Virginia Tech Massacre (Cutkomp, 2007-04-18)
Where Cho Bought His Deadly Weapon (TIME, 2007-04-18)
Hello, how are you?' asked US gunman (iol.co.za, 2007-04-18)
University convocation told of Allah, not Jesus (WorldNetDaily, 2007-04-17)
Virginia Tech shootings timeline (CNN, 2007-04-17)
Cho Seoung-Hui’s Plays --- Fulltext (NYT, 2007-04-17)
Brian Ross' Gun Idiocy Rides Again (Confederate Yankee, 2007-04-17)
Massacre Gun: $571 for 9 mm Glock and 50 Bullets at Roanoke Store (The Blotter, 2007-04-17)
VA Massacre Proves Government Can't Protect You (PrisonPlanet.com, 2007-04-17)
Threat of Another 9/11 Closes Detorit Area Schools on Same Day as the Virginia Tech Shootings (AssociatedContent, 2007-04-17)
From Mark & Cathy - April 16, 2007 (Transformation of America, 2007-04-16)
Sunday Food for Thought: Unanswered Wake-up Calls (liberal catnip, 2007-04-15)
Predicted: More Copycat School Shootings (Loren Coleman, MSW
, 2006-09-26)
They Thought They Were Free (Information Clearing House, 2006-09-02)
'Promise Keepers' Mind Control Techniques (Educate-Yourself, 2004-06-11)
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