back to article Altman to Musk: Don't go full supervillain – that's so un-American

OpenAI boss Sam Altman has expressed hope that Elon Musk won't use his political clout to hurt his competitors, describing such activity as "un-American." During the New York Times Dealbook Summit, Altman was reported as saying: "It would be profoundly un-American to use political power to hurt your competitors and advantage …

  1. beast666

    Altman should be locked up.

    1. DS999 Silver badge

      You right wing nutjobs love to call for people to be locked up, when their only "crime" is not bowing before your right wing gods like melon and the orange felon. I imagine you probably think I should also be locked up for the sin of referring to them in such disparaging (but in Trump's case, correct) terms.

      1. Sandtitz Silver badge

        It's not a right wing nutjob, just a shit poster pushing anti-west garbage with very low vocabulary skills and not bothering to actually discuss anything here.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Given the limited range of vocabulary I suspect it's a troll bot.

        2. Lazlo Woodbine Silver badge

          "very low vocabulary skills" covers much of Elmo & Trump's fanbase...

          1. Alan Brown Silver badge

            See the last point (Newspeak) in the list expounded by Umberto Eco here:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism#Umberto_Eco

  2. theOtherJT Silver badge

    Surely that's the most American.

    This is what Americans do. This is peak American. Stop pretending it's some golden age that never existed when America was the hero. If America was ever that, it sure as shit ain't now.

    1. Snowy Silver badge
      Holmes

      Re: Surely that's the most American.

      Exactly if a businesses only objective is to maximized profit then the shortest route to that is destroy the competition.

      Allowing competition is exist is nearly communist.

    2. ecofeco Silver badge
      Big Brother

      Re: Surely that's the most American.

      Exactly. It's as American as Edward Bernays and killing the poor! It doesn't get any more American than that!

    3. Philo T Farnsworth Bronze badge

      Re: Surely that's the most American.

      Mr Altman apparently skipped the chapter on "The Gilded Age1" when he studied history, assuming, of course, he did study history.

      ____________________

      1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilded_Age

    4. Andrew Scott Bronze badge

      Re: Surely that's the most American.

      Musk isn't an American. He's a wanna be. Previously he was/sorta Canadian and before that his native state is/was South Africa.

  3. IGotOut Silver badge

    Snake Oil salesman...

    ...calls out Snake Oilsman.

    Both are bullshiting con-artists the world would be better off without.

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: Snake Oil salesman...

      Yep, there are no good guys in this story.

  4. DS999 Silver badge

    Musk has no morals

    He will leverage Trump however he can to personally enrich himself. Encouraging him not to or hoping he won't is like hoping Trump will behave like a responsible adult in his second term.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      He will leverage Trump however he can to personally enrich himself

      Hasn't he got enough money already?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: He will leverage Trump however he can to personally enrich himself

        That's the thing I have always been wondering. Truly rich would mean being able to say 'no thanks, I have enough'.

        Never going to happen, of course.

      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Hasn't he got enough money already?

        No. The voices in his head still tell him he's a little shit stain. Just a bit more wealth and surely they'll SHUT UP AND LEAVE HIM ALONE.

      3. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: He will leverage Trump however he can to personally enrich himself

        Musk has enough money to solve world hunger, to reduce famine and infectious diseases, or countless other ways to make the world a better place. He'd rather it all burned so he could earn an extra $1bn though.

      4. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Hasn't he got enough money already

        IT is never enough for the likes of Leon SKUM.

        He wants political power. He can't be POTUS so being Melania's replacement is the next step on his way to becoming Supreme Leader of the USA. Anyone who says a word against him is sent to the GIGA camp in the Texas Desert OR to one of his GIGA factories to make the Muskmobiles that he'll make everyone drive at $1.00 per mile rental.

      5. Alan Brown Silver badge

        Re: He will leverage Trump however he can to personally enrich himself

        It doesn't work like that. After a certain point it becomes a high score to beat

      6. DS999 Silver badge

        Re: He will leverage Trump however he can to personally enrich himself

        Hasn't he got enough money already?

        Apparently for almost all billionaires, the answer is "no". Maybe that attitude is "there is never enough" is a requirement for becoming one.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Screw all of these people. They make Steve Jobs look like a nice guy.

    At least Jobs was only interested in making the Faberge Egg of technology...

  6. Bendacious Silver badge

    “It would be profoundly un-American to use political power to hurt your competitors and advantage your own businesses”

    I’m thrilled to hear that there is no lobbying in the US. Americans must be so happy that their politicians are free to act for the greater good and big business stays out of policy and law-making. Strange that so many Americans seem unhappy with their leaders. They must not understand how lucky they are.

  7. JamesTGrant Bronze badge

    ‘It would be profoundly un-American to use political power to hurt your competitors and advantage your own businesses’

    Bwahahaha. That guy!

  8. Howard Sway Silver badge

    "I don't think people would tolerate that. I don't think Elon would do it"

    Wow, has he been living in some cave on a desert island for the past decade?

    1. parlei

      Re: "I don't think people would tolerate that. I don't think Elon would do it"

      Nah, it is just the expected response. You know "Surely you, great, wise and powerfull Lord, would never stoop so low as to act like those vile scum that we both despise, and which act would, in the practially inconcievable event that You would chose such a path, seriously inceonvenience and undermine me, your loyal and ever faitheful servant and worskipper". The only difference is tbat he is not exepect to do a full prostration and kiss Musks feet, and that we try to avoid the more flowery language: the expectation is still there.

  9. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    The great American dream

    Out grifting your opposition.

    1. ecofeco Silver badge

      Re: The great American dream

      It is indeed.

  10. Bebu sa Ware
    Coat

    Don't go full supervillain

    Presumably the AI nutter was thinking Lex Luthor, The Master (aka Missy), John Lumic or any of the Bond villains but the pair of them between them couldn't rise to the level of The Joker and The Penguin or The Riddler.*

    (Catwoman was a bit too complicated for either of them and definitely a lot easier on the eyes.)

    * the 1960s Adam West TV series.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Don't go full supervillain

      Julie Newmar.

      Puuuurrrrrrr

  11. Pascal Monett Silver badge
    FAIL

    Good luck with that

    Sounds like the kid during recess begging the bully to be a nice guy for once.

    His Muskiness has only ever been about himself. He's not going to pay more attentiont to you than to the snail he steps on when it's raining outside.

  12. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Un-American?

    Musk is from South Africa, yes

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Un-American?

      He's not an American, he's originally from South Africa There are reports that he entered the US on a student visa to attend Grad School but did not comply with that and then overstayed his visa. (reportedly along with his brother who admitted the same in an interview) I'd like to see his application for residency/citizenship to see how he reported whether he was legally in the US at the time. I'd also like to see the paperwork and how it is "cleaned up" later. (if ever)

      1. anonymous boring coward Silver badge

        Re: Un-American?

        Presumably Trump will deport him?

  13. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Says the guy who thinks the only acceptable AI regulation are ones that ensconce his AI as legit, while new competitors must submit to lengthy and expensive regulations.

    These guys want the same thing, and this BS drama is as legitimate as what you see in Professional Wrestling.

  14. Wang Cores
    Mushroom

    A pox on both their houses.

    Enabling over-paid and under-intelligent grifters like him and Musk to rule by economic power was what got us here to begin with. Altman is just merely upset he didn't get to buy his own president... yet.

  15. Irongut Silver badge

    > use his political clout to hurt his competitors

    Sounds very American to me and more so very Trumpian.

    Mr AlternativeMan sounds jealous. He wants to be the supervillan with the volcano lair I'm sure.

    1. HuBo Silver badge
      Gimp

      'Tis the season indeed, for the Über Rich to re-evaluate their prep plans for the rivalry apocalypse, pondering such menial trife as whether to make security guards wear disciplinary collars ... all in joyful merriment!

  16. Groo The Wanderer

    With Musk, all I know is most of the "change" is likely to focus on people who irritate Musk's fragile ego.

    1. Steve Davies 3 Silver badge
      Big Brother

      re: people who irritate Musk's fragile ego

      or Trumps for that matter.

      If you have done it even accidentally, then I'd be looking at getting the hell out of dodge (or DC) before the Trump-Musk storm-troopers come knocking at 04:00 on a cold January night.

      Get out while you can people. The next 20 years (Trump v2.0, 2025-2029, Vance 2029-2037, Don Jnr 2037-2045) are not going to be nice for anyone who isn't Ultra MAGA.

      1. nijam Silver badge

        Re: re: people who irritate Musk's fragile ego

        To quote (approximately) from a UK current affairs program a few weeks back, in respose to the Florida Man's shitshow:

        We should just sit back and enjoy this election, because there won't be any more of them.

        1. Steve Davies 3 Silver badge
          Big Brother

          Re: enjoy this election, because there won't be any more of them.

          Trumpo told us more than once that 'you will never need to vote again' (or words to that effect)

          Nothing like broadcasting your intention to tear up the Constitution.

          1. Groo The Wanderer

            Re: enjoy this election, because there won't be any more of them.

            He already did that and was convicted for inciting the violent attempt at an overthrow of the duly elected USG.

            How a TRAITOR ends up President is beyond me.

            Maybe if I beat myself with a large gold brick wrapped in a lemon peel, American politics would make sense to me....

  17. Lazlo Woodbine Silver badge

    Un-American?

    Well, for starters, Elmo is South African, so by definition he's Un-American, because he's not American

    Secondly, he's the living embodiment of Hank Scorpio, especially when weilding one of his Boring Co flamethrowers...

  18. Zippy´s Sausage Factory
    Facepalm

    OpenAI boss Sam Altman has expressed hope that Elon Musk won't use his political clout to hurt his competitors, describing such activity as "un-American."

    That's the sort of optimism that gives a scorpion a ride across a river...

  19. Sparkus

    The only competition so far....

    Is who can spend the most money.

  20. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Many American voters have proven one thing

    Intelligence isn’t well defined.

  21. willyslick

    appealing to some kind of morality , decency and fair financial play?....considering the protagonists this must be some kind of comedy routine.

  22. spacecadet66 Bronze badge

    > It would be profoundly un-American to use political power to hurt your competitors and advantage your own businesses.

    I guess that depends: are we talking about the imaginary America that we were taught about in school, or the one that actually exists between Canada and Mexico?

  23. anonymous boring coward Silver badge

    What about laws? Don't they have them in USA?

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