Emotional Labor Day (Part 3)
Sep. 5th, 2011 10:56 amPart 3
"there is some shit I will not eat."
-- E.E. Cummings
So let me summarize: one student in my research group harassed another student in our group; the harasser was rewarded for his behavior, and the victim suffered. I think that's unfair.
I said as much to the three faculty members in the group. The responses I got ranged from silence to hostility. In particular, Andrew Tolmach -- who is both my advisor and Thomas's advisor -- told me that he didn't know the details of what Thomas had done, and he didn't want to know. He also rejected an idea I had proposed -- of one of the faculty members in the group making a public statement that someone had done something really bad to our group, and explaining what would be done about it -- because he said that making it about Thomas in particular would be a "witch hunt". (I'm not sure whether he realized the irony of invoking a historical event consisting largely of the persecution of women -- some say largely queer women, at that -- to argue against holding a man accountable for persecuting someone for being queer and feminine.) Later, he told me that he didn't think sexual harassment was an academic issue, and therefore nothing that Thomas had done was any of his business. I explained that I disagreed, that I thought that when one student intimidates another student out of being able to do their job, that is an academic issue. He also said that he didn't think there was anything special about sexual harassment as opposed to harassment in general, and he didn't think that the genders of the people involved made any difference in its severity.
Legally, the precedent seems pretty clear to me: all workers in an organization who are in a supervisory position -- such as a professor who advises graduate students, supervising them more closely than, for example, many managers at a software company would supervise their employees -- are responsible for pro-actively preventing sexual harassment in the workplace, and for being aware of any ongoing issues that make the working environment a hostile one. Ethically, I don't see how it's possible for sexual harassment of a colleague to not be an academic integrity violation. In a lab science field, it would be an academic integrity violation to take out your competition by sabotaging their experiments. In any field, it should be an academic integrity violation to take out your competition by letting them know they don't belong and eroding their dignity. If I were a supervisor, and I had a student (or employee) who did this, to me that would feel like a betrayal and a violation on the same level as plagiarizing or falsifying experiments.
I guess, though, if you occupy a social stratum where sexual harassment doesn't -- and can't -- affect you, it's easy enough to pretend that it doesn't affect anybody, and that if it does, they're just being too sensitive. Sexual harassment, directed at a woman by somebody who has male, heterosexual, and cissexual privilege, is fundamentally different from a woman harassing a man, in the same way that hitting someone with a baseball bat is different from hitting them with a pillow. The reason is that in the first case, it's not just one person saying something that one other person finds gross or disgusting or crass -- it's somebody leveraging all of the power of a sexist, heterosexist and cissexist society, all of the tacit knowledge and shared assumptions that mean that with just a few words, if you've got male privilege, then you can put a person in your own socioeconomic stratum in their place with just a few simple words (as long as they don't have male privilege). Sometimes it's words like "bitch" and "cunt", but you can use more polite words to get the same effect. What's important, more than the specific words, is that you invoke the image as woman as being for sex, as not being good for anything but to provide sexual pleasure to a heterosexual man. Since part of all of our cultural inheritance is that the idea that anyone who is capable of providing such pleasure is just a whore, and only a whore, and incapable of being a competent worker or anything other than whoredom, men with cis- and hetero- privilege who want to use their power barely need to do more than just point at that cultural inheritance. A woman could say all the same words to a man, but it wouldn't have the same hurtful effect, because we simply don't have the infrastructure in our minds for such words to become a speech act. It would just seem laughable. (If you ever present yourself femininely, you can try this the next time some guy in a car asks you what you're doing tonight.)
I decided, though, that since Andrew had told me that it wasn't his job to ensure that his students didn't sexually harass their colleagues (or to express disapproval when they did), I had to make it my job to protect myself from being sexually harassed if I returned to the department. Let me remind you of how this affects me:
- Knowing that it's tolerated in my department for a student to harass a GSM member, and that this will be met with neither personal consequences to the aggressor nor an institutional response, makes me feel like I'm not welcome, because it seems to show pretty clearly that my contributions aren't valued as much as those of privileged students.
- Even if I'm never harassed myself, I'm not comfortable in a place where I will have to witness women or genderqueer people being harassed and where I'll be shamed or silenced if I try to talk about it with authority figures.
- Seeing someone hurt my friend, and getting a response that basically says my friend isn't valued either, hurts.
So, I told Andrew that I would be willing to return in the fall if three conditions were met: (1) that I would do all my work off-campus, except for attending meetings where faculty members were present; (2) that I wouldn't have to speak to Thomas, including interacting with him about project work; and (3) that it would be acceptable for me to do one internship per year (this was unrelated to the first two conditions, but relates to the skyrocketing cost of PSU student health insurance. For fear of making this really tl;dr, I'll omit the reason why I had to stipulate that). He rejected all three conditions, stating that regarding item (2), he expected all group members to be "collaborative and respectful" towards one another.
I asked whether he thought that making an unwelcome sexual advance towards a colleague was "collaborative and respectful" behavior in his opinion, and he refused to answer.
If I take these comments at face value, that means he's asking me to work under conditions that make it impossible for me to work. I can't smile at an abuser and pretend that everything is okay. That would take all the energy I have. I can't write a dissertation while hating myself and feeling like a hypocrite every day. And I can't get up every day to do hard intellectual work while knowing that going to work could make me a target for a bully, and if I became one, all that the faculty members would be concerned about was ensuring that the bully got an education. Doing my best not to appear angry would be a betrayal to myself and to the people I care about.
But I really can't take these comments at face value. I can't see how he can tell me with a straight face that it would be disrespectful to not be polite to a sexual harasser in the corridors, when nothing more than a (privately administered) slap on the wrist was ever done to let everyone in the department know that this is not a place where bullying people in minority groups is okay. How is that respectful to me or to Alice? It seems that there is a double standard.
Andrew can refuse to answer the question of whether hitting on somebody at work is "collaborative and respectful" because he doesn't know the details of what happened and can't judge whether it was respectful or not. But he chose not to find out the details, in order to spare himself from having to take a stand one way or the other. There's something unpleasantly circular about that. I thought Andrew was a good advisor because he always stressed the importance of intellectual honesty -- how, in research, you always have to be brutally honest and admit when you don't know something or when you've made a mistake. For me, those principles extend beyond the pages of a conference paper and into professional and personal relationships. I guess for him, they don't. And I'm disappointed.
If I go back to PSU, I'll have to look for a new advisor, and I'm not sure who that would be, so I don't know whether I'll ever go back. I also don't yet know what my future plans are, as my internship at Mozilla ends on September 9, this coming Friday. I've filed a complaint with the Diversity office at PSU, and I'm in touch with some folks at the civil rights group Basic Rights Oregon to find out about recourse. I have to say, though, that even if I "won" a case -- whatever that would mean -- it's hard to imagine voluntarily returning to a toxic environment, and it's hard to imagine how that environment could be cleaned up when there isn't a single person with any power to clean it up who wants to. That is, not a single person who has done anything to do so, as opposed to saying they want to.
My goals in writing this and making it public don't include effecting any concrete change. When understanding a situation would compel a person to action, and it's easier not to act, then it's in their interest to not understand. So, I don't really have a rational reason to have written any of this, except that I think if I don't put it in writing, I will lose what remaining ability I have to get out of bed in the morning, concentrate on my job, not channel my rage into snarky comments on Reddit, and otherwise be a functional member of society. When people try to silence me, it's an excellent way to get me to tell everybody everything.
Finally, I want there to be a public record of why I left grad school. It's well-documented that faculty members usually take credit for their successful students' accomplishments while blaming non-completing students for their own difficulties. I left because I didn't have the energy to fight bullying from students and poisonous apathy from faculty members. I wanted to go to a place where I can do my job and be productive, and if where someone decides to intimidate me because I'm fat or because I love men or because I was coercively assigned female at birth, I can have confidence that my supervisors will be completely behind me.
I've wondered whether the faculty think they are being "neutral". And if so, I wonder whether they understand that in the presence of a bully, neutrality means siding with bullies; not taking sides means that someone who is abusing their power will continue to do so unchecked. Perhaps they imagine it's their job to side with a student who may have been "falsely accused" of some wrong. But there's a conflict here between giving the benefit of the doubt to someone who's been accused of something, and believing people who are systematically disbelieved. When you choose to do the former, you're identifying yourself as part of a social pattern that disbelieves women, trans people, queer people, and other people in minority groups (because after all, women are emotional, trans people are deceptive, queer people are abnormal, and God help you if you're all of the above). That's not exactly fair.
If you're still thinking that harassment between supposed equals isn't harassment, consider how with a conversation that took less than five minutes, Thomas managed to derail two people's lives for six months or more. What should have been a small action got a lot bigger due to the complicity of those who had the power to condemn it, and chose instead to deny or make excuses. In the past six months I've learned that when people say they want to help and be supportive, there's generally an unsaid postscript of "but only when it's easy for me and when I don't have to take a stand".
Of course, some of the work was done for him already by the life experiences that Alice and I have both had as queer trans people living in a profoundly repressive, cisnormative, heteronormative society. But that's exactly what power is -- having that entire society behind you. If I could have reclaimed the time I've spent thinking about this situation, and talking with others about it, I might have a completed dissertation proposal by now. Just today, I spent about 4 to 5 hours -- while on vacation -- drafting this post. I could have gotten some solid work done on the research paper I'm working on. But that's how it is, eh? When you have the privilege of not having to care, it frees up a lot of time to have fun thinking about interesting problems and being successful.
And that's why analyzing power dynamics isn't useless theory. For some people, it might seem that way, because you don't need to think about power when you have it. But this is my life. I need to document what's happened because I can't think clearly about anything unless I write about it, and I need to think clearly about it so I don't blame myself. If I blame myself for not being able to graduate, I'll have lost my sense of defiance. Sometimes I think that's all I've got.
"Even if you're a woman who wasn't abused, you're fucking angry because people treat you like shit all of the time, even if it's those tiny little things that don't matter immediately. Those little acts of violence just build and build and you have to choose to either internalize it and hate yourself or get MAD and do something about it. So you do get mad -- you get more angry than you've ever felt before, because you've never had the chance to even say how you feel and have those feelings acknowledged as worthy and awesome. You get angry because anything else, any compromise or giving up or hiding or pushing things deep down and ignoring them -- it's total self annihilation. You have to get angry, or else the thought of living in such a world becomes unbearable."
Epilogue
Knowing that I'm leaving and Alice has chosen to stay and fight shouldn't diminish the seriousness of either of our struggles. I decided that for me, the reward of getting a Ph.D wasn't worth the pain of having to do other people's emotional work and to fight every day to be seen as a person too. I was willing to endure almost anything to gain entry into the privileged fellowship of those who can show they deserve autonomy and freedom on the job, not to mention working in a field I love -- but the price, for me, was too high. Alice loves their work enough that it was worth it for them to stay, to endure, to exercise more strength and deal with more awfulness than most people in our profession can probably imagine. And for them, that's the right thing. Alice's colleagues might say, right now, that Alice "seems fine". If they do say that, it's because of the incredible amount of extra work Alice has done, is doing, and will do, to "seem fine" after having to deal with what no one should have to deal with.
The thing is, though, that both of us had to choose: choose between staying and dealing with conditions that have a disparate impact on minority group members like us -- conditions that mean we have to work that much harder to get the same (or lesser) reward -- or leaving and losing out on one more opportunity. Privileged people don't have to make choices like these. Choice isn't always good: not when either choice you make will be criticized. Stay, and you're criticized for participating in an oppressive system. Leave, and you're criticized for letting the bullies win. You can't win. I hope that no one reading this will conclude that I gave in by leaving or that Alice gave in by staying. That wouldn't be fair, because we're both in a no-win situation.
Postscript: Alice read a draft of this post before I posted it, and gave me their permission to post it publicly. I have not sought permission from any of the other people named in this account, as I believe their actions constitute implicit consent to such naming.
Comments on this post are screened by default. I will unscreen comments that I find to be constructive, unless you tell me "Please don't unscreen my comment". Edited to add: Please feel free to link to this post anywhere you feel fit. There's no need to ask permission. I don't mind having to deal with a few trollish comments as a result; screening means I'm the only one who has to see them.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-05 07:19 pm (UTC)I hope the results are productive and minimally harmful to you, Alice, and your careers - but I'm not holding my breath. Best of luck to you both.
(I don't know that this is "constructive", but I'm fine with you unscreening this.)
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 08:30 am (UTC)Thank you for reading.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-05 09:42 pm (UTC)I wish I had something more constructive to say than that - although I think you're very strong for having written this, I shouldn't have to compliment you for that, because you shouldn't have had to write it. At any rate, I read it, I am shaken up and angry, and no, neither you nor Alice gave in.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 08:33 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-07 02:48 pm (UTC)Also, your advisor's utter lack of desire to engage with problematic behavior but ability to talk about "collaborative and respectful" environments is abhorrent. I'm still stunned from the thought that anybody could do such a thing.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-05 10:42 pm (UTC)It is potent antidote to the belief that microaggressions live in isolation. The initial sexual innuendo was comparatively small and insignificant — which is to say that it's relatively normal even if its impact is not so small — and yet that little statement which had no real worth or value for the person making it in the absence of the power structures you have described and analyzed. And despite its worthlessness and its harm and its insignificance, the authorities in power in the situation have been willing to go to the mat for it. To back it up all the way. To allow you to feel pushed out of the program. No cost it seems, except perhaps lack of funding or loss of personal comfort, would be enough to make them take corrective action, to stop defending it. I suspect that the outcome would have been different if there had been no action but they had offered apology and sincere understanding rather than dismissal and victims-blaming. And yet it is the nature of microaggressions like this that they have defenders in the large, too, and that they will reliably result in no action, no apology, no sincere understanding on the part of those in power.
Meanwhile, the workers on the bottom rung are left doing all the understanding, all the seeking of corrective action and all of the deconstruction of justifications required to move forward; they bear the cost, and the burden of improvement. And yet, if ever things were to really begin to change, such that conflict-avoidance were not in the service of these same bullying structures, these bastions of moderateness and fence-sitting would proclaim their boldness for going with the flow. The reality is (to put it in religious terminology rather than to simply call back to Letter from a Birmingham Jail) that they are concerned only with their pastoral relationships, the vague civility of their community, the nurturing of those it is easy to nurture, rather than the prophetic action that is doing the right thing rather than the easy, expected, tired and played-out oppressive, old thing.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 08:45 am (UTC)that little statement which had no real worth or value for the person making it in the absence of the power structures you have described and analyzed.
Actually, I think that statement had a lot of value for the person making it. If it didn't, he wouldn't have made it. He can't have been so divorced from reality as to not know that there was a chance that making it would put his job in jeopardy, even if that's not what ended up happening. People of at least moderate intelligence don't take risks like that for no reason.
With that statement, he was able to continue seeking out the attention of a person whose attention he'd been seeking out for quite some time (the reason why that person's attention was so important to him are not for me to speculate about -- but it obviously was).
Or (and?) -- the statement could have been a way to try to push out someone whose very presence was making him uncomfortable (again, for reasons we won't explore here). Again, that could have had a lot of value to him. Sometimes there's a good reason why someone is making you uncomfortable (like that they're harassing you), but here, if this was part of the equation, it was likely because he perceived a threat to something about himself that he valued.
Or (and?) it could just be part of a larger pattern that we see in the tech community every time someone brings up sexism or harassment: a subset of men in this community (always, AFAIK, men with cissexual and heterosexual privilege) insist it's their right to use certain kinds of discourse to keep the profession a boys' club. Perhaps it's because they're more comfortable working that way. Perhaps it's because they feel afraid of having to compete with women, and would rather keep them out of the game. There has to be *some* reason why supposed mature professionals get up in arms every time someone questions whether they need to act like a 13-year-old in order to write code.
Well, now I'm speculating when I said I wouldn't. But while I absolutely agree that the original somewhat-more-than-micro-aggression is less important than the reaction to and refusal to condemn it -- I also think we're missing part of the point if we assume there was no reason why somebody in grad school would engage in middle-school-level teasing.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 09:06 am (UTC)I certainly can't speak to what's going on inside his head, only what I know has gone on inside my head when I've said similar things (albeit, hopefully, in different contexts and with different impacts.) When I say there is no value, I am thinking of times when I've made semi-offhand (and perhaps not entirely serious, but certainly not entirely joking; I'm unclear on how earnest the original comment was, and it isn't really relevant to the rest of the saga, but for this little remark of mine) overtures towards someone I knew moderately-well consisting primarily of sexual innuendo. They are effectively throwaway, not things I'd defend very readily, things which have no great value for me in that I could just as soon have not said them and I wouldn't have lost anything by doing so. It seems likely to me that his subjective experience and valuation could have been similar to mine, that it could have been something that really seemed unimportant to him, but as everyone has demonstrated with their subsequent actions, the context and power structures give it great worth to those in power and authority. But perhaps I'm giving myself, and other people by extension, too much credit in my assumptions of my ability to figure out my motivations, desires and values. Or maybe we're saying the same thing, but you're attributing the social value to him to him, where I'm speaking solely about personal value to him, which is not independent of social value, but which involves more factors than just the social ones.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 09:21 am (UTC)And of course... I wouldn't be talking about any of this with anyone if he hadn't chosen to make his issues mine.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 01:06 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 08:46 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 06:21 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 08:58 am (UTC)Yeah, I don't think so, because (a detail I didn't include in the post; it was long enough, and all) he told me, during an in-person conversation in July, something like (not an exact quote, but this is the gist) "nobody cares what I think about this situation except you." If someone had asked him to remain neutral, I don't think he would have said that nobody cared.
(And, yes, it's hard for me to believe, too, that he wouldn't care whether his students harassed other people in the group unless someone else told him to care -- but I can't really come up with any other interpretation.)
maybe he was doing a lot behind closed doors while trying not to disrupt the group any more than necessary (not that that's necessarily possible, or even wise, but I can understand wanting to try).
Yeah, I don't think that could have been true either, because he told me (in the same conversation) that he hadn't exchanged a word with Thomas about what happened. If he had been trying to help, I'd think he would have wanted to get the story from all individuals involved, firsthand.
But no, it sounds like he's really trying to take a principled stand for this not really being "academic" and therefore something he should be involved in. That's clearly bullshit, and I'd be angry and disappointed, too.
Yeah, that's how it seems to me too. At first I wanted to think this was a misunderstanding, I wanted to find some explanation that would preserve my respect for Andrew. But... I just can't.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 08:20 am (UTC)I have to say I am more appalled by the professor's behavior than I am by the guy (well almost). As a supervisor it is his job to know and should be able to access the information from the previous agreements and such since both grad students work for him (even when you can't). I have hard time reading it as clueless. I almost wonder if he could be this *I need to be neutral* if somebody did blow the whistle and he was suddenly facing outrage.
On one hand I am sorry you are not going to get the PhD you worked so hard for. On the other hand, do what ensures your safety. *hugs*
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 09:02 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 11:05 am (UTC)Anyhow it is your decision.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 06:01 pm (UTC)I can't say I was wrong for going back the second time for those reasons, either. I couldn't predict what was going to happen, and simply didn't have enough information about the people in question to know how they would react in a situation where they would have to take a stand. I guess there's really no way to find that out about a person until that situation happens.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 02:54 pm (UTC)More seriously, I'm sorry.
I also want to thank you for posts like this. Reading your journal has done a lot to help me understand my privileged and (hopefully) do better at keeping my feet from stepping on people.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 06:42 pm (UTC)I also want to thank you for posts like this. Reading your journal has done a lot to help me understand my privileged and (hopefully) do better at keeping my feet from stepping on people.
You're welcome. I have plenty of privilege myself in some contexts (and some privileges that I have in all contexts, like white privilege), so I feel like I've learned a lot about how to handle that more responsibly, too, over the past ten years, largely from reading the kind of writing that you find online because it tends to get marginalized anywhere else. So, as with open-source software, I feel it's only fair for me to give something back :-)
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 03:20 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-06 06:08 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-07 02:48 am (UTC)I've never been in an close-quarters situation like that, but it definitely echoes with something I've felt... My parents worked out that I'm queer by how much anger at the world I was displaying during the Prop 8 fight. (I ended up coming out in response to a direct question). I had no intention of marrying anyone at all and didn't even really consider queerness a particularly important identity tag at the time (being pansexual, my last-stage denial reaction was "what the hell, it's not like I don't like the sex I'm supposed to date, so it's not really relevant!") Even though I had all these "not really my fight" reasons, though, the general air of hostility was eating so many brain cycles that my loved ones could tell I was off my game, and work out pretty well why.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-07 05:38 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-07 09:41 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-08 05:26 am (UTC)even though I think the answer is clear, I'd like to know if my summary is accurate:
Your adviser explicitly told you
that no one other than you
had *any* strong opinions or feelings
about what his actions should be
... and then he completely dismissed yours?
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-08 07:26 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-08 09:37 pm (UTC)PSU has a pretty terrible sexual harassment policy in comparison to some I've seen (my employer's springs to mind), but I do think you might have some traction with the third criterion. If I may quote selectively:
"Sexual harassment is defined as unwanted and unwelcome sexual advances [...] where: [...] Such conduct has the purpose or effect of unreasonably interfering with an individual's academic or work performance, or of creating an intimidating, hostile, or offensive education or working environment." I don't think it's possible for an intellectually honest person to read this series of posts and still conclude that the incident you describe has failed to meet the quoted condition (for you and Alice, despite only Alice being the direct intended target of the harassment). Supposedly, "PSU will not tolerate this prohibited behavior." Supposedly.
Since it seems like everyone's taking a turn at the non-constructive as well, I will just point out how deeply amused I am that you linked something from lightgetsin, who, apparently in addition to some very thoughtful observations on disability and access, has co-written some truly bitchin' Vorkosigan saga fic with which I have been fairly obsessed since mid-August or so. Small world, &c.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-08 09:41 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-14 06:11 pm (UTC)I'm so sorry. Thank you for chronicling this sad story. I hope you find a new place to continue to develop your talents.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-15 12:00 am (UTC)Well, that's certainly why it took me a lot of time and effort to decide to leave. People always tell one to be strong and stand up for what believes in, and not care about what other people think. What the Saturday morning cartoons left out is how hard that can be.
(no subject)
Date: 2011-09-15 03:56 am (UTC)(Feel free to unscreen this exchange as you'd like.)
thanks
Date: 2011-09-17 09:02 am (UTC)One comment:
I wouldn't describe myself as being an ally (to all downtrodden). Frankly, I wouldn't have the energy.
I generally do try not to be a nasty and cruel person though.
As an element of the "apathetically well-intentioned" I'll offer that intent matters, because what I (and others) really should say when messing up is "I didn't intend to hurt you and apologize for doing it anyway" possibly garnished by "I don't understand what I did wrong, explain?".
Whereas if you do have intent, well, what benefit in any further interaction? So, please, if/when you have the energy to do so, do complain when the probably mildly well-meaning hurt you, we only can get better if we actually know we failed.
Re: thanks
Date: 2011-09-19 06:18 am (UTC)Intent doesn't matter; effects matter. That you didn't mean to drop that 50-pound anvil on my foot doesn't make it hurt any less. If you ask me to explain how my nervous system works at that point, and how is it that dropping a heavy object on my bones and tendons could be so painful, I'm going to wonder why you didn't already know.
The thing is that very little harm is done by people who are trying to be nasty and cruel. The vast majority is done by people just like you -- people who don't have the energy to oppose all of the forces that make it easy to do nasty and cruel things (regardless of whether you are nasty and cruel). So rather than asking me to change, why don't you become more usefully flawed instead of perfectly useless? And instead of telling oppressed people how to resist their oppression, why don't you tell oppressors not to oppress?
Re: thanks
Date: 2011-09-20 08:22 am (UTC)You wrote: "very little harm is done by people who are trying to be nasty and cruel".
=> my position about intent is not going to make sense to you.
Re: thanks
Date: 2011-09-23 04:21 am (UTC)Re: thanks
Date: 2011-09-23 06:32 am (UTC)Grad Student Solidarity
Date: 2013-01-01 03:54 am (UTC)As a person who enjoys a lot of privilege, I want to begin by saying "I'm sorry." I'm sorry for all the times I have been willfully ignorant, for the times I've heard a 'joke' and not stood up for the people who were the butt of it, and for the times (this one is more painful to admit) it was me telling the joke. To you, I'm sorry that your dream has become a casualty of ignorance/apathy/idiocy.
At the same time, I want to let you know that we're working on it. I'm a physics grad student; I was prepping for a gender deconstruction workshop (for physics grad students) when I stumbled on your essay. At UW, many grad students have acknowledged that they are ignorant of all the complex difficulties/issues that the minority groups face, and they have asked for training. I'm the current coordinator, and (one of) my goal(s) is to educate/empower the cisgendered, heterosexual, able-bodied, white men to stand up for those of us who don't get all those labels--to inspire them to go to battle on behalf of decency and equality and integrity alongside us. Perhaps it is too late to remedy the situation that you have described so beautifully/honestly/heart-wrenchingly/analytically, but I hope that we can prevent it from being a "part of our culture."
With Hope (and Anger) and a mission,
-Mackenzie
Re: Grad Student Solidarity
Date: 2013-01-03 04:42 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2015-05-11 05:02 am (UTC)- I need to *stop* talking about intent when apologizing until I can figure out how to do so without it putting burden on the other party -- even when I really, really, really want to say it. My desire to talk about intent is partly to protect my own identity as an ally (thinking about the mention of the fixed-state model of ally-ship you mentioned in Killing the Messenger at Mozilla) and partly out of fear of liberal friends potentially ostracizing me (which I should just suck up and deal with, because even though that's a scary thought, the actual likely consequences for a white cis male (etc.) are pretty damn minimal...)
- I need to be less afraid to speak up even when it's uncomfortable socially. If I have to ruin someone's joke or harsh an otherwise pleasant banter, so be it -- better me than someone with less privilege.
- I have a better understanding of why jokes about GSMs are harmful. I had not understood the direct connection to violence (via othering.)
- Similarly, I don't think I'd seen sexual harassment explained as bullying before, or the way it uses existing power structures to turn a small action into a large effect.
So... thanks. I think I've got a little bit better of a picture of what people with different gender and sex from my own have to deal with and how I can be a better person with regard to that.
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Date: 2015-05-11 05:21 am (UTC)other person: "When you said X, it made me feel Y because it reminded me of situation Z"
me: "OMG, how dare you compare me to the people involved with Z, because now I feel all kinds of ways"
...and even if the other person on me are on the exact same political footing, the same pattern is happening because I'm using my own narcissistic injury to silence the other person talking about how I hurt them. Which is abuse dynamics, even if it's not "abuse" per se.
Another way of putting that is a quote from a Mountain Goats song:
"it's only the guilty
who concern themselves
with clearing their names"
So, since you commented on this post, I figured I'd take the opportunity to note here that the political is personal and that, I hope, all of us are learning and changing all the time :)