A reader asked me to address any knowledge that I have about the Freemasons and ritual abuse. My sister is convinced that she and I suffered ritual abuse at the hands of the Freemasons. I don’t have any specific memories (yet??) of this connection myself. I guess that, for me, the fact that I was being abused was what I focused upon. I am not sure that I really cared why or who, only that it was happening and that I wanted to protect my sister. (My sister and I were “controlled” by threatening the sibling. I believed that my sister would be killed if I did not obey and keep the secret.)
Working with the memories that I have recovered, I am convinced that the people who ritually abused my sister and me were an organized kiddie porn and prostitution ring. I think the black robes, bonfires, and other “Satanic” elements were simply “covers.” “Clients” could rape children, both on and off film, while masking their identities, and if I ever told anyone about it, nobody would believe me because the entire idea of Satanic ritual abuse is so “crazy.”
I have no question that my abusers were well-organized and highly secretive. I also know that my sister and I were not their only victims. We were assigned numbers (used in place of names), and we were not numbers 1 & 2. Also, my sister has memories of being in charge of watching the younger children while some of my abuse was going on.
Back when I started recovering memories of the ritual abuse, I did some online research on ritual abuse in general and on the Freemasons in particular. One thing I found interesting was a comment/observation someone made about there being numerous rumors about the Freemasons’ involvement in ritual abuse, yet there are not similar rumors for comparable groups, such as the Lions or the Elks. The lawyer in me must point out that rumors do not equal proof, but I do find this to be an interesting observation nonetheless.
The only other thing I can share about the Freemasons is that I am highly triggered when I learn that somebody I know is a Mason. That is certainly not proof, and it is entirely possible that this reaction ties into what my sister has told me versus a repressed memory. At this point, I simply don’t know. I will say that the two men that I know who are active in their Mason groups are low-level, and they are both really great guys who would never condone abusing children. Some of the Freemason rumors say that those involved in ritual abuse are high-level masons. Other rumors say that it is just one sect of the Freemasons that not representative of the entire organization.
I don’t know what’s true and what’s not. On the one hand, I do think that when there is a lot of smoke, there is concern about a fire. On the other hand, I am not ready to make sweeping judgments about an organization that I know has some good men in it – men who I trust.
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There are people in the Freemasons that systematically with understanding gained from centuries of experience abuse children. They use the lodges and land that is owned by the Freemasons as locations to abuse children.
I have personally been in the basement of four lodges two in which I was in a tunnel.
I find it helpful to know a little about the Freemasons past. I start in England where the Freemasons developed the apprentice system which has been adopted by unions. It was when the church was the government and a parish was the center of commerce. The Freemasons had knowledge of geometry and building which was kept secret. Remember this was a time when most were illiterate. It gave them great economic power as the church needed them to build and structures of any great size.
The Freemasons were a power when this country was being developed. They actually had whole towns granted to them. Surveyors were Freemasons at the time with their knowledge of geometry and math, The knowledge of land was used to gain more power in the US.
Architects were often Freemasons.
In the US in the east some split off and formed the Grange. In the rural areas it was either you belonged to the Grange which was mostly agricultural or the Masons which were “professionals”
There are few townships in NE who do not have a Freemason presence in the form of a “temple”.
The main tool of secrecy is fear. It can be economic. You mess with the Freemasons and you will lose your job and they may own the house you rent. They insure that they have something to hold over you. A person may be gotten drunk and then be part of abusing children their own or others. They may be drunk and or drugged at the time. They can not report as they would be reporting themselves. Who they report to will likely be a Freemason as they often become police and judges.
There are main points of how they keep everything secret. One is to have people in power that can “fix” things. They pretend to write everything down and write nothing down. When they take a person to a site for a ritual they are blindfolded. They often use abandoned property so even if you go back to the site the ones that abused you do not own it. They have pure psychopaths as enforcers.
All rings are taken off and put in a wooden box. They use masks to hide their identity. And those to be abused have no masks and often no clothes.
They know how to disorient. They know the effects of extreme temperatures, dehydration, being calorie deprived, isolation, shunning and terror.
They are accomplished lairs. They know to keep it simple.
They tend to like to be under and be an authority. They gravitate to government jobs. Their personal power tends to come from groups. They seem to want an entity to protect them and are willing to go to great lengths to be accepted.
They are cowards. This is not to say they are not dangerous. They are very good at harassment.
They tend to be overly law abiding in other aspects of there lives.
They are not stupid and have a system. They post guards to make sure no one comes down the dead end road where they are having the ceremony. They know to come at different times and not to leave in groups. They have an explanation ready.
They are braggarts. They will all tell you that they have connections in the Illuminati even though they are low level. They will tell you they own a police department when they only have one officer. That sort of thing.
They trade a lot. One member might what young girls and will supply a young boy in trade. Say a victim moves the word will get out that a victim is coming to town.
In my case the cults were subcontractors to the academics and military that ran MKULTRA a natural relationship.
Each Freemason cult will have sects mostly on socioeconomic lines. I went to a job site and then came back to writing. There was one basement that I was in that I forgot. This was was noting less than opulent.
It is similar to gangs and the mafia only with a longer history. There main source of personal income is not the cult actitivy like the mafia and the gangs. You have to have a job or business that is legitimate.
I find it important to keep it in perspective. Yes there are judges that sent 5,000 kids to jail for a fee in PA. One of the few judges that got caught. They may not have Freemason ties. If you take it to far than they take on an importance they do not deserve or warrant. There is not a world wide organization in the way that organizations are though of. Much of it is the lack of financial structure of the group. Think the drug trade.
Anyway they are out there.
Hi, Michael.
Thanks for all of that information. Much of what you said rings true of my experience. Perhaps my sister is right… :0(
– Faith
hi all. i dont know if anyone will read this or where to post it but here.
this morning i took my mother to the doctor. i am ‘fishing’ for info. /it came out that my mothers father was a mason in the scottish rite sector as high up as one could go. he was very involved. and it was all very secretive and hushed. mother knew little about it.
i remember all the weird stuff ive said.
does 2 plus 2 equal 3??? confused still. still searching.
Dear Michael,
And U.S. Attorney General, Judge Jerome O. Herlihy(302-577-7042 & 302-255-0800) of the Delaware superior court in Wilmington, Delaware Attorney General BO, and the U.S. Dept of Justice “CIVIL RIGHTS DIV”
They had done some very bad things to me in Lancaster Pennsylvania. The Freemasons & Eastern Stars in Lancaster, HERSHEY & South Central Pennsylvania are animals. They are evil, sinister & Ghoulish. I was a professor of sociology at Harrisburg Area Community College in Lancaster Pennsylvania & these Animals were mobbing/harassing me relentlessly. So, I just kept writting everything down. I kept journals, notes & kept filing formal complaints against them.
These animals would do extremely bizarre things to me. In all they forced out four of us at Harrisburg Area Community College in Lancaster Pennsylvania. After more than a year of being harassed & mobbed, I decided to speak with an academic attorney named Vivian B. Narehood (717-291-1700). After listening to me with witnesses, and evidence Ms Narehood stated the following,”My God. Call the Pa Governor immediately. You are a fine teacher. File complaints with the EEOC & the PHRC immediately. This has nothing to do with your teaching. You resume shows you are more than qualified to teach sociology at the community Colege level.”
So I filed formal “whistleblower” complaints:PHRC Case No.200800802 & EEOC Case No.17F200960329 against Harrisburg Area Community College in Lancaster Pennsylvania. I was the 3rd professor to be harassed & forced out, & fourth person if you count the HOMOSEXUAL ex-marine who was discriminated against & chased off at Harrisburg Area Community College in Lancaster Pennsylvania in less than two years.
To make a long story short, they do very bizarre things these ANIMALS. It ended up with the University of Delaware security arresting me, and accussing me of “WANTING TO BLOW UP THE UNIVERSITY OF DELAWARE AND KILL MORE KIDS THAN VIRGINIA TECH.” and accussed of “FAKE” stalking my ex-girlfriends dead cell phone.
These University of Delaware security guards led by these Freemasons, and this Pa State trooper named Richard T. Drum ended up breaking into my house when nobody was home on WOODS Ave in Lancaster Pennsylvania. The neighborhood watch group composed of Freemasons & Eastern Stars had my house under surveillance. They let the Pa State Police know when nobody was home & the University of Delaware security way down in Newark Delaware. Then they quickly called a Freemasons named ole freemason Ad Crable of the lancaster Paper. OLE FREEMASON Ad Crable then placed me on the internet 12x, internet black listing & internet black balling me for being a whistleblower.
These University of Delaware security guards had arrested me ten months after my formal “WHISTLEBLOWER” complaints:PHRC Case No.200800802 & EEOC Case No.17F200960329 had reached the college in Lancaster & broke in the house just three weeks before the Pennsylvania Governor had ordered Harrisburg Area Community College to answer the 70+counts of harassment & discrimination. Just three weeks before the date they broke into my house.
These University of Delaware security guard then threw me in Jail at 12 to 15x the normal amount of bail. Then the neighborhood watch groups composed of Freemasons & eastern Stars called the University of Delaware security (led by two Freemason Ex-FBI agents & Masonic Ex-State cops), and told them my friend had left the house on WOODS AVE in Lancaster Pennsylvania. Then the University of Delaware security quickly rushed up to WOODS AVE in Lancaster Pennsylvania and broke through the window. This one crazy neighbor (EASTERN STAR) on WOODS AVE in Lancater Pennsylvania kept calling my friend telling her I was DANGEROUS & to get rid of me. They call this neighbor the WITCH OF WOODS AVE in LANCASTER PENNSYLVANIA because she alway rides on her email broom gossiping about people and neighbors on woods ave in Lancaster Pennsylvania.
I have never owned a gun in my life. I am a pacifist. I am a reasonable man & a quiet intellectual. I have never done drugs in my life. I am ex-U.S. Soldier with three honorable discharges (88-96 & after 9/11 03-05). I have big ten college degrees in Sociology. I had been an counselor to children for about 10 years. I was born to a poor working class family in inner city York Pennsylvania. And I am a third generation U.S. Army Veteran. I consider myself honorable, trustworthy, and a good man that would not lie about the things I am tell you here.
Once these Univeristy of Delaware security guards busted in my house on WOODS Ave in Lancaster Pennsylvania, they took the following: Colleges books, Piled my ex-girlfriends gifts of POLO SHIRTS up on the middle of the bed. And my three U.S. Army medals I had earned from my three honorable discharges vanished off the dresser. Quickly a Freemason named Ole Freemason Ad Crable was contacted at the Lancaster Newspaper & Ole Freemason Ad Crable placed me on the internet 12x internet black listing me and black balling me for being a whistleblower.
Pa State Trooper RICHARD T. DRUM called me 3x, and stated the following,
“I have never seen an investigation like this before. We call people. We talk to people. We communicate with people & we just don’t come out and bust into peoples houses. This cetainly isn’t state police protocol nor none I had ever seen before. You don’t have any guns. 90% of the stuff they took had nothing to do with any charges. You should get it all back. They were going through personal things & taking pictures. This is strange. They were walking down the WOODS Ave & talking to your neighbors as if they knew them. They walked directly to their doors. It was the middle of a week day on a summer afternoon. That University of Delaware security guard called Ole Freemason Ad Crable. The University of Delaware security guard had said that stuff to OLE FREEMASON Ad Crable. This is strange I am just the middle man here. I don’t get this at all. I don’t know.”
These individuals were spreading rumors around for well over two years about me. These rumors: I was DANGEROUS, Aggressive, a time-bomb, a loose cannon, a racist, unstable, on drugs, and I had weapons. Oh, and my favorite, I liked kids….
A Forensic psycologist/criminologist identified what these Freemasons & Eastern Stars were doing to me. Dr. Robert G. Thompson at the Delaware psych-clinic in New Castle had this to say,
“They really wanted to hurt you. They wanted to get you for every thing they could. You are extremely smart. That was very smart of you to do that. I believe you. I believe they were sending those text messages & doing a whole lot more to you you were unaware of. You are honest. I support you. I will testify for you. I wanted you to know this. The prosecutor came to along with the University of Delaware security guard and they wanted to institutionalize you. I wanted you to know this. This was my decision. I told them “NO”. You were pretty bad when you came in here. You are a little better now. I wanted to give you time to figure all this out for yourself. You aren’t seeing anything are you? I didn’t think so. They really wanted to hurt you. Don’t isolate. If you need any help don’t be afraid to ask.”
My former attorney in Wilmington Delaware Natalie Woloshin had this to say,
“This is odd. The University of Delaware security are known for harassing underage kids for drinking and stuff like that. This has to be the biggest things that had ever happened in the history of the University of Delaware’s security history. you are not guilty of anything. We are not pleading guilty to anything. Nobody communicated with you. You were not aware of what was going on around you. We have a side of the story. You are a very smart. I will send you Dr. Robert G. Thompson’s forensic evals. You got the Univeristy of delaware police reports. I believe that University of Delaware security guard was calling your employer. I know you are not DANGEROUS, I know that…If you need anything don’t hesitate to ask me.”
Later when I had gotten into Judge Jerome O. Herlihy(302-577-7042 & 302-255-0800) courtroom in the Delaware superior court in Wilmington, the judge had this to say,
“WHAT ARE UNIVERSITY OF DELAWARE SECURITY GUARDS HEADED TO LANCASTER PENNSYLVANIA FOR ANYWAY? Did your attorney even communicate with you at all? Where did you get this guy at? He isn’t helping you. He is no good. Get rid of him. What kind of Deal did these two give you? You know you are not guilty of this charge. You don’t recall because you just don’t do this stuff. You are not DANGEROUS. Jail is for DANGEROUS people & you certainly aren’t one of them. I am not going to send you to jail. There is nothing wrong with you. You are just depressed. Yes I will see your evidence. Any evidence you have. This is weird. What is he whispering. Tell me! Don’t listen to him. You live in York & this happened in Lancaster. WHAT ARE UNIVERSITY OF DELAWARE SECURITY GUARDS HEADED TO LANCASTER PENNSYLVANIA FOR ANYWAY? This doesn’t make any sense. Something not right here. I don’t get this.”
Three weeks after the house was broken into Harrisburg Area Community College answered the 70+counts of harassment and Discrimination on formal Whistleblower compliants:PHRC Case No.200800802 & EEOC Case No.17F200960329 against Harrisburg Area Community College in Lancaster Pennsylvania. Every single response to the Pa Governor from the lancaster college was a lie. The response to the complaints were RIDDLED WITH LIES.
When the University of Delaware police reports were obtained, THEY TOO WERE RIDDLED WITH LIES. A said to be “TRUSTWORTHY WITNESS” was calling into his buddy at the University of Delaware and lied to his security guard buddies on every single occassion. This individual who was lying we can refer to as FREEMASON “THE HACKER” Van FRANKENSTEIN. Apparently this individuals was HACKING into my computer illegally and with out a warrant and taking my email messages and transribing them with the University of delaware police and making up bizarre stories that simply were not true.
To make another long stories short these ANIMALS were engaging in corruption and engaging in Organized Gang Stalking. The Freemasons used to call it “THE WHITE GLOVE TREATMENT” in Lancaster, HERSHEY, and South central Pennsylvania. Today we have the internet and now we call this freemason terrorism, Organized Terror Stalking. What these ANIMALS are doing is simply targeting Vulnerable U.S. Veterans, outsiders, and Vulnerable isolated individuals in the community who have very little social networks.
Anyway, Thanks for allowing me to express my freedom of speech through the freedom of the press.
“You mess with the Freemasons and you will lose your job and they may own the house you rent. They insure that they have something to hold over you. A person may be gotten drunk and then be part of abusing children their own or others. They may be drunk and or drugged at the time. They can not report as they would be reporting themselves. Who they report to will likely be a Freemason as they often become police and judges.”
Ugh. Reminds me of the KKK tbh. For me, there is no trust without transparency. I’ve had no dealings with the Masons as far as I know, but then how would I know?
My abuser was a Rotarian and an Anglican. I don’t think Rotarians are abusers, although, being who he was, I’m sure he’d use whatever social connections he had to further his goals to hurt people. I’m guessing that pretty much any religion, association or group can be used by abusers as a place to network, or a cover for organized rings of abusers. The Masons are secretive, but then again so are the Mormons, and I’ve heard allegations of abuse about them as well.
I think that all hierarchical organizations (where your actions aren’t easily questioned if you have status) with embedded secrecy must be great breeding grounds for abusers. Certainly sex offenders who prey on children outside their families have been documented as joining groups or professions where they can cultivate a wholesome image/persona in order to give them access to children, such as working with children’s charities, or as clergy.
The Mormon founder was a freemason, along with Scientology.
sorry to say yes freemasons are definatly into S R A, they have high ups in on it and on the payroll policeforces/social development agenceys/ C I A/ F B I Government agencys/whitehouse polititions?/phycologists (false memory syndrome organisation) bcse they are involved too you name it they are all involved and on the payroll Sorry its true
They like it when you believe that they control organizations just because some of them are in those organizations. They like you to believe that they do not exist and the people only gravitate towards positions where they can abuse.
They want you to believe that it is all about sexual abuse and not see they are much more depraved than that.
They see you as fools who do not understand and exist only for them to manipulate, which they do and they are believed. They consider you unenlightened and they look for people like them that are also enlightened like them. If you are not like them you are to be used.
One thing that is weird is a witchcraft cult will have dealings with a satanic cult or church.
I feel it is important to know that some cult members are not making it up as they go along. They are following methods used successfully for centuries.
The judicial system does not successfully prosecute members of organized crime it is not reasonable to expect them to do so with cults.
Note: It is helpful to them if you believe that there is a FBI report, which says cults do not exist. There is none just a letter written by on agent with out research. His beliefs. Possible it is a cult member, which they would like you to believe, more likely just a personal belief stated in a letter which is taken as a valid report.
I hope my comment wasn’t misunderstood. I do believe that organizes child ritual abuse exists and that it probably exists in pockets among Masons (among others). I have friends who have survived RA. I was just pointing out that even though ritual abuse is maintained through conspiracies, I don’t think it’s a good idea to condemn an entire religion, community or faith practice out of hand because it has been exploited for evil. This is not because I think that might not be correct in some cases, but by pointing the finger elsewhere (as if Mormons or Masons or Satanists had the monopoly on evil), we don’t see these types of conspiracies when they occur within communities we think of as beyond reproach. Child abusers like to be allied with roles or communities they can groom to not believe accusations against them. It seems credible to me that groups of abusers would do the same.
Sworddancewarrior,
I hope my comment was not misunderstood that I misunderstood. Smile.
I go with and honest evaluation with as much honesty as possible.
Some Masons are good people. The Masons do great work with their burn treatment centers. Some Masons systematically abuse children and those good Masons and those that that are not call each other brother. They own that for me. So the Masons as a group like any other group are not intrinsically good and I do not think of them that way.
There is no group that I know of that has faced they have a child abuse problem. Certainly not the Catholic church. They are now blaming the sexual revolution on their problem.
It all seems to go away when I look at people as individuals and they act as individuals. Kinda if they want to tell me they are a good person because they are a Mason, teacher, minister, doctor, artist ect. I do not buy it ever. I do not buy that someone is special because they are a mother.
I do not buy that because a person has been abused that they are a good person. I know people in treatment for their own purposes. I would like to think as a group that people that are healing from trauma are better people. In a way that would make me part of something intrinsically good. As I write I guess I do think that and that it is likely a delusion.
I’m glad you posted this, Faith. I think that ritual abuse survivors can help each other alot by untangling their feelings about being abused by very organised, hierarchical groups of psychopaths. By whatever name they go. In my experience, this is the element of our issues with which classic child abuse therapists may have the most difficulty when you present it to them. They probably could do with the sort of skills that are used by therapists for those who have survived torture in war camps, or a sophisticated hostage situation, because the experience of being at the hands of the cult abusers is more like one of those experiences.
I agree with Michael that the occult practices of abuse have been handed down for generations, and also that it’s necessary not to accord them more power by believing them to be all-powerful, even if they do get away with such a lot of heinous crimes.
Ax,
I agree that most therapist have difficulty with dealing with those that have experienced abuse by cults. Often they see it as the same as other abuse and believe the results are the same.
Cults are not all the same and each persons experience with a cult will not be the same.
true michael “fair enough”, i have read alot of testemonys from former victims (like yourselfs) and thats why i beileve “is the high ups” on top of the payroll in these hUMAN TRAFFICKINGB”organisations” I even read david shuter’S testemony on (David shurter.com ) O M G :O :O :O (his father was a satanic high priest (he was a victim himself as were many other people who tryed to tell “But got ‘shut down” and not “beleived”, (dead now) david is 100 percent positive his fathers family (“Satanic cult/s people connections) in the cult) were responsible for many children who had gone missing and were kidnapped for this purpose (jacob wetterling, ricky chadek, to name a few in Omaha, ) (johnny goesch was mentioned as well) (have you seen johnny goeschs mums website about her son) (same thing) (hes been “in hiding for years” because of what he knows they will “Kill him”) and other places, etc) he even told F B i (police forces all of this and gave them alot of information about his family as the sketch they released was according to david shurter his (FATHER) Well the police f b1, (etc) totally “changed the desription “,etc and wouldn’t listen to him “blocked his information” “shut it all down” etc, he emailed news reporters many repoters with his information and his information was “Blocked” totally Rubbished” (Cover up!!) this is why i beleive they are totally involved you can read this on his website shurter.com)
😦 😦
Yep definatly all connected michael (david shurter) (just was relooking at information again on his site) he was bought and sold often as a kid to whitehouse poititions?F B I?all all the “high ups”, he was in mk-ultra as well like yourself His family was heavily involved when he was a kid with the Franklin credit union cover up as well he says also that The False Memory Syndrome foundaion (strongly involved also) is funded by ( N A M B L A ) 😦 (Barsteds!!)
oops :O i meant to say “Funded” and “connected “to N A M B L A (false memory sydrome foundation) thats why alot of people get rubbished and not believed (“satanic panic )(” they call it) (and its rubbished and covered up)The high ups are ALL involved 😦
[…] my blog entry entitled Freemasons and Child Abuse, a reader posted the following comment: I’m glad you posted this, Faith. I think that ritual […]
I also have triggering in association with the Masons. My grandfather was a cult leader and was also a Mason, however my memories are not specific enough to remember the details of lodges, clothing, etc.
Much of your story Faith rings true for me including pornography and sibling threats. I am constantly amazed by how we all have a unique story with so many common threads. I had never before considered satanic abuse as a “cover” for these other activities, but it does make a lot of sense. Who would believe the “crazy” child coming up with stories of bizarre rituals? I am going to think more on this, because I believe there was clearly more emphasis on the ritual and not on “worship”. It was as if going through the motions without any real meaning attached to it.
While I think there is certainly enough of us who can cite Freemason involvement, I think we also must exercise caution in labeling anyone who is a Mason as an abuser. I also have men in my life who I trust who are Masons. There are those who practice good and bad behaviors in all parts of our society.
@Michael
“It all seems to go away when I look at people as individuals and they act as individuals. Kinda if they want to tell me they are a good person because they are a Mason, teacher, minister, doctor, artist ect. I do not buy it ever. I do not buy that someone is special because they are a mother.”
I totally agree with you here, Michael.
SDW
SWD,
And it seems that there is no loss. If they are really a good person or special than it feels to me like I am honoring that more.
My therapist said that the therapeutic relationship is different. I was a tad angry bout sumpin and said maybe yours all are mine have not been.
I expect that her therapeutic relationships have all been different.
I brought as much as I could to each therapeutic relationships so I am going with it was not me. Allowing for sometimes people just click and that I may be in error and it was me.
malanie here. been awhile since i posted. i had someone at work discover i was posting on isurvive and i assumed as it was in the login space on a computer (their email address) that they were an isurvive member. it appears possibly not so. another isurvive member brought up the connection that “someone” might not wish me to speak. ?? i thought of this tie in with my grandfather. i wrote of it here. i am some scared topost this, but wanted input. anyone?
i also posted on dependence compulsion thread where my original post started.
be kind always,
This is especially relevant now, with the daughter Hillary Adams uploading hte video of her Judge father William Adams beating her. All US judges are Freemasons, and the Texas prosecutor just announced there will be no prosecution of this heinous act. Many feel the beating has elements of sexual violence, and since the daughter is disabled (no matter how slight) there is a possibility the Statute of Limitations for abuse of a minor is 10 years, and prosecution can proceed. But I am advocating for a petition for Hillary’s Law, no statue of limitations where DV against a child is concerned, in every state in the nation. And a rider that if the alleged perp is a US judge or LW officer, special additions to be added to the charges.
I believe you all are very brave in writing and sharing your experiences. I don’t know what my family was involved with but there was consistent on-going activities that included child pornography and child sexual abuse. I remember wanting to protect my sister. I also remember getting pregnant at a very early age and having the baby at a private home. I don’t know what happened to the baby. The group was made up of Irish German Catholics. It was organized. The group provided kids for select groups in upstate NY. I wonder if I will ever really know all that happened or what the larger group was. It has effected my whole life. Thanks for listening. EK
I know a women, whose freemason father let his freemasons buddies molest her and he arranged a marriage for her with a freemason who abused, raped and permanently scared her with what looks like a branding. I know not all freemasons are evil, but there certainly are some. And when an organization is designed on secrecy, those who do evil things are not held responsible.
Still trying to figure out the connection here in my hx of memories of my own abuse.
1- HELL. . the place used as *Hell* was burned charred ground dead trees and brush on the ground. A cleared place surrounded by trees.
2- WHITE ROBES. . my memories involve white robes not black. I can see their faces. No masks.
3- Farmhouse. . old rundown with barns. A room no windows striped blue mattress. No sheets.
4- Rituals. Chants. Fire. Torches.
5- Preacher and Devil. . people i specifically remember these titles used.
6- Midwest masonic temple center.
7- My grandfather mothers side illiminiti ( spelling).
8- Words i recall. . purification. Not enlightened.
Hi, Malanie.
I remember both black and white robes. I didn’t have a farm house, but there was some sort of structure near the place where the rituals were held outdoors. I am triggered by chants and bothered by songs with repetition. I am also triggered by bonfires and torches.
~ Faith
Continued. Sorry.
9- Sexual acts involving small kittens possibly removed from womb of cat early. Very small.placed in a wooden object i can draw and have been told was an early sexual pleasure object used in vietnam ( possibly korea) . Black kitten placed inside it and inside me and its neck broken inside me as i watched in a mirror. A cord or string was wrapped at tge kitrens neck in tge wooden object the cord hanging outside of me. I was told it was my fault the kitten died. For my *sins*.
10- ceremony kitten removed in Hell but placed at my head my laying naked. Three torches one at my head. One to either side. Told i must re do my sins to be forgiven tge sin of fornication and the sin of lying specifically i recall.
11- sex. Being raped in a succession of white robed men. Women men chanting. Very ritual methodical. Not sexual enjoyment specifically noted by the participants.
12- . .the term purification fuck.
13-. . Blood drawn on my body in symbols oil rubbed everywhere when ritual done to remove the blood. I remember women did that. I remember hands.
14-. Green garden snakes.
15-. .the memories repeat in dreams
16-. .the number 3. I do not use it. I am triggered by it. What still is. Ive no explaination.
* 2 + 2 equals 3??
There is more. This is enough to write. Does anyone relate to any of this. I grew up in midwest.
Or is this crazy. All of it. I hace dreamed alot repeatedly. I can *see* it all aa clearly as my hand.
Hi, Malanie.
My abuse also involved breaking the neck of a young kitten. I relate to the gang rapes.
The number 3 is significant in Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA). The number 3 represents the trinity in Christianity, so SRA perverts the meaning.
You are not crazy. I relate to many of the items you have written about.
~ Faith
I am another survivor of RA through the Masons and their affiliation with other community organizations such as the church. Pillars of the community operated at levels deep within the 33 degrees of the Masons group. Pharmacists (for drugs), bankers, doctors, etc. As always, you question your memories, but others in my original community have the same ones. (Ontario)
I always hoped to get to the bottom of it all but I live my life with joy and the dark stuff just comes out in nightmares and moments of feelings – and I don’t believe I’ll ever be lucky enough to have ‘proof”.
OK, is anyone on here a professional dealing with these issues? If not maybe one of you can help. I have just (last night) discovered that my husbands siblings were both ritually abused in this way by an alcholic policeman dad who was a 32nd degree mason who also had a 2nd family/child the first 14 yrs of my husbands life. This has been the big “family secret” never shared with my husband because he was so much “younger” than the others they “hoped” it never happened to him. But he was basically an only child from age 5 on so they really don’t know as they got out as fast as they could (16). But brother who is 15 yrs older had a major MPD episode/breakdown in his 50’s. My husband is in his 50’s now and I am seeing scary things and trying to figure out how to live with this — or not — since he will not get any help have tried many times for other reasons and he always just quits. I am trying to get his brother to talk to him but he will not share this part of the “truth” with anyone I have been told. His wife says it is all documented after years of therapy but he just does not talk about the fact that it was his Dad that was the abuser and who made the death threats against his mother if he told and who told him he was to be a child sacrifice all starting very early in his life. Even his sister thinks it was just a neighbor as she has blocked that part of her history so far also — she has been told but does not really believe.
Everyone seems locked into ignoring and pretending this never happened either out of shame or maybe guilt, I don’t know, but I am having to live with the consequences of the DID and other clinically dianosed severe personality disorders and it is about to drive me around the bend completely and may end our 35 yr marriage. He needs help but will not get any cause he does not think there is anything really wrong. They do NOT want me to reveal this to him and yes, it may be dangerous to do so anyway because of his current mental state. They think he could not handle it. It sent his brother into a catatonic state when the memories started coming back 15 yrs ago.
I feel what it hidden in the dark and kept secret can never heal but I am not an expert. My husband has always said he does not remember any of his childhood. Other say he is luck not too. But these secrets and the consequeces of them in my husbands life has ruined our lives and our marriage and I am only just now understanding WHY. Help! How do I deal with this knowledge, help my husband and not just make things worse??
2+2 equals 3, I know this but I don’t know why. super strange….grandfather raised me as his own “daughter”, he was devout mason. also hate repetition…