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Bushrod, Indiana

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This is another "what did the WPA text say?" case, as Baker cites it for a founding date in spite of ample evidence that this is in fact another rail spot. What older topos and aerials show is that this was once the east end of a small yard; I found one person cited as yardmaster there. And all the relevant hits indicate this, with lots of irrelevant surname hits. There's no town here now and now place of it to have been, as the topos show nothing but trackwork and a couple of buildings. Mangoe (talk) 17:31, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I was able to find a news article from 1959 that refers to it as a "town": [1], but it's more about the man it's named for than the place itself. A 1946 article in the Linton Daily Citizen has a little more information, but just describes it as a rail point and not a town: [2]. Undecided about whether this counts as WP:SIGCOV. As much as I hate geographic permastubs like this one, we have a little bit more (albeit conflicting) information than is typical for these "GNIS gives this name to this point" type articles. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 22:37, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can see from a 1958 aerial that there was no town there; except for the Quonset hut (which might have been a different building at the same spot) there's just a structure withing the wye of the tracks. Mangoe (talk) 00:40, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Beehunter, Indiana

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This is plainly a rail point, formerly a crossover/junction and more recently a rather odd pair of junctions. The only road in the area actually swerves to avoid the spot, and the only building is in the middle of the junction; I would gather it was once the "tower" but it's impossible to tell. I did find some explicit reference to it as a rail station/junction but other references are to the marsh or to a potential archaeological site, or to local mining activity, npne of which are not in this immediate vicinity. Mangoe (talk) 16:29, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Suprisingly detailed article from 1970 talks about the history of this rail spot: [3], but states clearly that it "was never a city, nor a town, nor was it ever the home of more than one family." I will update the article accordingly. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 22:45, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Antioch, Greene County, Indiana

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Very little to go by on this one, but the presence in GMaps of a now-defunct Antioch Church a short ways to the west suggest that this is a locale named after it (Antioch being a common part of church names. No sign anywhere of a town, however. Mangoe (talk) 13:00, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of basic settlement units in Brno

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This recently created list fails WP:NOTDIRECTORY. It is an extremely detailed breakdown for specific purposes in a professional sphere, which goes beyond the scope of an encyclopedia. Other European metropolises do not have a list with such a breakdown (so Brno is very random in this context). Similar lists are not found on cswiki either. FromCzech (talk) 12:32, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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To be honest that's quite fair. I simply wanted to make a ranking of the basic settlement units by density and population since that's what I'm usually interested in, but if others agree for the deletion I am for it too. GreenWolfyVillager (talk) 13:00, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

comment I have to say this is largely incomprehensible without a map. Mangoe (talk) 13:03, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Since there is already the article Administrative divisions of Brno would it simply be way better to move the article there? GreenWolfyVillager (talk) 17:38, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This does not solve the concerns I raised above. It doesn't matter if the list is stand-alone or not. FromCzech (talk) 06:37, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Orientls (talk) 07:52, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Browns Mill, Virginia

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Insignificant locality in Fairfax County, Virginia. WP:BEFORE yields only SEO junk and results for the eponymous road. Waddles 🗩 🖉 02:01, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Nothing found except passing mentions of a Browns Mill Junction; nothing suggesting this was a community. Whatever this was, it's been bulldozed under suburban sprawl, so it doesn't make much sense to talk about it in the present tense. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:05, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This history of mills in Fairfax County in DC describes the milling activities there. There was a general store next to the mill and the miller owned a large farm, but evidence of an actual community in the immediate vicinity is conspicuous by its absence. It's probably just a name conferred on the subdivision when the area suburbanized and hence transferred to the topo map. Choess (talk) 15:33, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Colchester Hunt, Virginia

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Unsourced article for an insignificant residential subdivision in Fairfax County, Virginia. WP:BEFORE yields nothing aside from real estate websites and local Facebook group on Google and nothing useful at all from ["Colchester Hunt, Virginia" site:newspapers.com searching Newspapers.com].

I am also nominating the following articles for the same reasons, being that they are insignificant residential subdivisions:

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Delete. All three seem to be residential subdivisions with no existence as communities pre-suburbanization or significant coverage. I tried slightly looser newspapers.com searches without turning up anything further. Choess (talk) 06:09, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gunpowder weapons in the Bahmani Sultanate

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Not enough independent significant coverage to warrant a standalone article. Sections are just filled with images and no contents whatsoever. Garudam ^Talk! 23:01, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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- Garudam, this is quite ridiculous. Can you please remove this AfD from the lists it has nothing to do with? By my count that would leave a maximum of five. Thanks. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 02:20, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I searched for a while, but I didn't find any new sources with significant coverage (though I did find some verifiable information to add to either Bahmani Kingdom#Gunpowder Weapons or History of the firearm#South Asia). The only source with significant coverage about gunpowder weapons specifically in the Bahmani Sultanate, Khan's Early Use of Cannon and Musket in India, is already cited in the article, and one good source is not enough. —PrinceTortoise (he/him • poke • inspect) 03:06, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kudamuck

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Subject does not appear notable. Searching for "Kudamuck" on Google returns literally zero reliable, independent sources. Also, the last sentence of the article arguably meets the "patent nonsense" criterion for speedy deletion ("There are many castes, religions, depart here"). Stephen Hui (talk) 06:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nomination. This was kept from speedy deletion in 2009, before consensus changed to require some sourcing for all articles. Bearian (talk) 03:13, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pazhassi's Cave

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A less referenced version already exists in draftspace. A WP:BEFORE search turned up little. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 18:33, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nowruz-e Ali

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Mass-created abadi article by Carlossuarez46. On the day he created this article, he created at least 450 others. I say "at least" because upwards of 20,000 C46 articles have been deleted already, and these won't show up in this search. No known location beyond the general area, appears to possibly be a store in the city of Izeh - the Iranian census is often counted around land-marks and potentially in this case this was simply the count of people around this store. Without a known location it is impossible to verify that this is an actual community and not just a census-counting-unit. FOARP (talk) 11:36, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Snou Strait

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No refs on the page for many years. Many other language wikis have pages but I'm not seeing usable reliable sources to cite. I'm not finding much else, but I don't speak any of the relevant languages, I would be interested to see if anyone can find anything which would meet the GNG JMWt (talk) 11:40, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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cpmment I would say merge to Chyornye Bratya except that the one source I saw of any merit (the second listed in the Russian article) doesn't support the claims made. But whatever we say about this strait clearly belongs in that article. Mangoe (talk) 00:02, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, this name doesn't seem to be used in English literature, so I'm actually thinking delete. Mangoe (talk) 00:04, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are a few more citations in the Russian article about Henry James Snow, ru:Сноу, Генри Джеймс. It cites https://webcitation.org/6ELOwHZxN?url=http://www.kurilsk-adm.ru/index.php?option=com_content#mon3#mon3 for the claim that the strait and volcano are named after him. The Japanese page about the islands, ja:知理保以島, seems to have the same place as Rakku Strait (猟虎水道, rakku suidō, 'sea otter waterway/channel/strait'), with a broken citation link. I would: 1. spell it as Snow; 2. rather than using the name unqualified, say something like "known in Russian as the 'Snow Strait' (Russian: пролив Сноу, romanized: proliv Snou)"; 3. make this a redirect (or I guess you say a merge but there's not much of a difference). Adumbrativus (talk) 09:24, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tarneit Plains, Victoria

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This article's existence is based on a false premise. Tarneit Plains is not a suburb of Victoria, as claimed in the article. An official map of suburbs in the City of Melton can be found at [4] (linked from [5]) and there is no entry for Tarneit Plains. There is a "Precinct Structure Plan" called Tarneit Plains, but PSPs do not correspond to suburbs and are rarely article-worthy. Redirection is not a suitable option as the article title is formatted like a place name, when there is no such place. This, that and the other (talk) 09:53, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. The sources do not show that "The suburb was gazetted and approved by the Victorian government in 2017." Tarneit Plains is not on the City of Melton list of suburbs or the Land Use Victoria locality maps. Steelkamp (talk) 08:18, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jadden, Indiana

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According to Baker, a post office named after the postmaster. Nothing much there exacpt a couple of houses, so no reason to beleive it was more than that. Mangoe (talk) 00:19, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Post offices have to pass either WP:NCORP or WP:NBUILDING, and this passes neither. There is no evidence of an actual community at this location named "Jadden" for a WP:GEOLAND pass either. FOARP (talk) 20:14, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Straight Point

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No refs on the page for many years. Seems to be used as a point of geographical reference for the Aylesbeare Mudstone Group geological formation, with passing mentions in the scientific literature. But to me, the existence of a headland is not notable and mentions of a named point on a map in the scientific literature isn't enough to meet the notability criteria either. JMWt (talk) 17:10, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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keep: There are several articles for places along the Jurassic Coast that are similarly short in length, and perhaps similarly deficient in citations. I'm not keen on treating any one article (e.g. this "Straight Point") in isolation from the others; instead I would rather consider a course of action common to all the Jurassic Coast articles (see the J.C. template at the end of the article). I would certainly look favourably on a proposal to stubify those are deficient in the way you identify, and I would volunteer:

to do the work of stubification
try to find a cite or two for those that might need it (dusting off my now rather rusty geology degree).

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Feline Hymnic (talk • contribs) 18:27, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Hello friend, thanks for engaging. I appreciate your offer to improve the page, if you could supply some sources that show the notability of this feature, that would be very helpful to the discussion. Please see WP:ATA if you are unfamiliar with the AfD process. JMWt (talk) 18:42, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
keep: Yes indeed that is very true, there are a number of articles about places along the Jurassic Coast that are very much as short in length, and, indeed, they are similarly deficient in citations. I also thank you for your suggestion and I sincerlely hope that you will keep to your proposal and expand the article. This because I find your offer to improve the page as a much better solution than a deletion. I wish you good fortune with your new project. Greetings --Huligan0 (talk) 21:56, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, or Draftify for Feline Hymnic to work on. I'm failing to find anything on this point which suggests it passes WP:GEONATURAL. We don't keep articles because other similarly deficient articles also exist (WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS), and looking at List of places on the Jurassic Coast wouldn't suggest we're dealing with a complete set anyway (not that it would matter if we were) Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 10:43, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:GEONATURAL - clearly discussed in Geology of the Jurassic Coast and West Country Cruising Companion along with a geology book from the 1910s along with other sources, already a start-class article (references have been WP:HEYed, and GEONATURAL is a very permissive notability guideline. Absolutely no reason to delete this. SportingFlyer T·C 01:03, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree, none of the added sources are significant coverage. I agree that the headland is used as a waypoint in various publications, that doesn't make it notable. JMWt (talk) 08:02, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:53, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fox, Indiana

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I'm not sure what Baker means by "this village was apparently never platted," but in any case the maps and aerials show yet another rail spot/late pre-RFD post office. Baker also says that it was originally called "Fox Station", which leads to the same conclusion: a town never actually happened here. Mangoe (talk) 14:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Clearly just a onetime post office and/or rail waypoint, not a community. Interestingly, the 2019 USGS topo says there is a "Fox Station Airport" nearby: [6], quite a grandiose name for a strip of mowed grass in a farm field, which is what shows up in the satellite view. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 21:32, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - No evidence this was ever really a community. FOARP (talk) 20:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Gover Stream

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No refs hatnote since 2022 but it doesn't appear that there have been any sources on the page since creation in, I think, 2006.

I don't see sources that show this small feature meets the notability criteria. It seems that Gover Valley 'might' be notable but it doesn't seem to me that even a rename of this page would help as it includes a lot of material that isn't verifiable. JMWt (talk) 15:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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delete We had to deal with a bunch of German "bachs" (streams) a few years ago, and this isn't even that good. Those at least could be seen, whereas I'm having considerable difficult finding this one at all, whether on GMaps or on the OS server. There are a couple of GBook hits, but they all deal with it in a single sentence. Mangoe (talk) 16:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wilson's Cave

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Links in ref's are broken, and all the info is sourced from the one referenced book. That book list many, many caves, and inclusion does not make this one notable. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:06, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep See [7] Page 18 and [8] page 276: "a site of major archaeological significance". The cave contained mammoth bones, implements, Neolithic ware and bronze rings from 600 BC. Or possibly redirect to Gorham's Cave. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Second is a clear passing mention, first has some merit. The mere presence of bones doesn't make something notable, and this is passing converage.

Kingsmasher678 (talk) 17:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is some confusion with Gorham's Cave. If they are the same, redirect. Otherwise, first ref and existing refs is enough to keep. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:04, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Upper All's Well Cave

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Clearly nonotable. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 05:08, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The content and image are worth keeping if minimal; I think these should be merged to some larger article in my opinion. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What should be the merge target?

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