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Aleksei Rybin

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Fails WP:NMUSICIAN on their own, suggest redirecting to Kino (band) as a plausible WP:ATD. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:12, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect Redirect to Kino (band) per WP:ATD Unilandofma (talk) 16:22, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

International Gladiators 2

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Relies entirely upon the website of the show's television platform. Fails WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 18:32, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete all of these -- searched a few, found nothing. These articles are essentially an episode listing and are not encyclopedic; this one also has a plot summary but that does not really qualify it. No reliable sources. If sources are later found they can be added to the main article. Mrfoogles (talk) 21:09, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

International Gladiators 1

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Relies entirely upon the website of the show's television platform. Fails WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 18:31, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete all of these -- searched a few, found nothing. These articles are essentially an episode listing and are not encyclopedic; this one also has a plot summary but that does not really qualify it. No reliable sources. Searched up this one individually, nothing except confusion with an eSports tournament. Mrfoogles (talk) 21:08, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alexei Pavlov (swimmer)

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Does not meet WP:SPORTCRIT as there is not significant coverage in reliable sources. Adabow (talk) 09:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Snou Strait

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No refs on the page for many years. Many other language wikis have pages but I'm not seeing usable reliable sources to cite. I'm not finding much else, but I don't speak any of the relevant languages, I would be interested to see if anyone can find anything which would meet the GNG JMWt (talk) 11:40, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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cpmment I would say merge to Chyornye Bratya except that the one source I saw of any merit (the second listed in the Russian article) doesn't support the claims made. But whatever we say about this strait clearly belongs in that article. Mangoe (talk) 00:02, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, this name doesn't seem to be used in English literature, so I'm actually thinking delete. Mangoe (talk) 00:04, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are a few more citations in the Russian article about Henry James Snow, ru:Сноу, Генри Джеймс. It cites https://webcitation.org/6ELOwHZxN?url=http://www.kurilsk-adm.ru/index.php?option=com_content#mon3#mon3 for the claim that the strait and volcano are named after him. The Japanese page about the islands, ja:知理保以島, seems to have the same place as Rakku Strait (猟虎水道, rakku suidō, 'sea otter waterway/channel/strait'), with a broken citation link. I would: 1. spell it as Snow; 2. rather than using the name unqualified, say something like "known in Russian as the 'Snow Strait' (Russian: пролив Сноу, romanized: proliv Snou)"; 3. make this a redirect (or I guess you say a merge but there's not much of a difference). Adumbrativus (talk) 09:24, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Raids inside the Soviet Union during the Soviet–Afghan War

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An unwarranted WP:SPLIT of the Soviet–Afghan War, clearly a Pov ridden article and glorification of measly notable Pakistani raids in Soviet Afghan. Garudam ^Talk! 00:49, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Its not a Split and these raids aren't "measley notable" in that it involved the forces of four different states infiltrating into the territory of a global superpower. Waleed (talk) 02:58, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I think that the article is notable on its own. WP:SPLIT is justified for significant battles of the Soviet-Afghan war. Wikibear47 (talk) 17:38, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This could be merged at best. Otherwise, I don't see a reason why this article should exist in the mainspace when the parent article itself does not cover this topic or lacks sources, even if it does. Garudam ^Talk! 19:11, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: pure violation of WP:SYNTH. The topic is not notable and the article itself appears to be pushing a POV. - Ratnahastin (talk) 02:18, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article has standalone notability of its own established through significant coverage and a necessary split from Soviet-Afghan war article. Muneebll (talk) 09:23, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The topic is not even notable for its parent article and lacks citations, clearly it does not pass GNG & SIGCOV. Garudam ^Talk! 14:55, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1976 Aeroflot Yakovlev Yak-40 crash

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Per WP:GNG and WP:EVENTCRIT: Other than databases, there exists no reliable secondary sources that provide (significant) coverage of the event, no in-depth coverage, no (sustained) continued coverage, no demonstrated lasting effects nor long-term impacts on a significant region of the world that would make this event notable enough for a stand-alone article. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 11:32, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:COI I have a soft-spot for the Yak-40; it's a pretty little thing that deserved greater success in the wider world.

Anyways - although not especially notable in itself, is this event just one of hundreds of similar articles, and will they go through the same Afd process? Yes, I know, there is a WP: for what I have just done, but see my next point before shooting me down.

One of the reasons for lack of (significant) coverage is surely due to historical censorship in the Soviet Union; in this case their reluctance to acknowledge such aviation ~~crashes~~ accidents? Had this event occurred in the USA, with seven fatalities I am sure it would have been front-page news, and years later spawned an episode of Mayday (Canadian TV series). Was this article always doomed to fail simply because it happened not just in Russia, but in a remote backwater of such a vast country. Where is Ust-kut airport anyway, and does anybody care? But whilst you are there, look at this beauty, steaming out at low-level.

Back on track; there was one part of this accident article that I found most interesting; the aircraft was being used as a freight carrier, not at the end of its career, but in its heyday. It is not what you first think of when you look at the lede image and see those rear-airstairs deployed. The List of accidents and incidents involving the Yakovlev Yak-40 doesn't mention that it was a predominantly cargo flight, and deleting this article would deprive us of that detail. Ok, so I'm clutching at straws now, but there is a real point hidden in that comment.

So, it's a KEEP, pending a response from you (or others) that persuades me to change my mind, which I assure you is a real possibility.

(*) On a separate issue; back in the USSR (!), even though I like to ride my bicycle (I like to ride my bike), I'm fairly sure that I wouldn't be allowed to pedal my agenda incessantly. <coughs>. Ok, that's my way of apologising for interjecting into a conversation between you and third-parties; I am not sure what the correct form is in these cases, although I am rapidly reaching the stage of applying 'do not feed the troll', which seems to be one of the aims of the "project". Maybe I'm Losing My Religion, or maybe I've said too much.

WendlingCrusader (talk) 14:27, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I mean, it is a beautiful picture if we're being honest. But back to this discussion, none of this really tells us why this event is notable enough to be kept. It's possible that it could have been notable had it happened in the US, but it's also possible that it couldn't. Maybe if it had been covered on Mayday, it could have been notable enough for a standalone article, but cases such as the 1991 Gulf War KC-135 incident don't have an article (which was sent to AfD a few months ago). In short, a standalone article relies on the existence of secondary sources. None exist. Whether or not there were lasting effects or long-term impacts will need to be demonstrated.

A merge to List of accidents and incidents involving the Yakovlev Yak-40 to include more details is a possibility. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 06:07, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1970s. Article is covered there. Meltdown627 (talk) 19:43, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alexey Zakharov

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Non-notable tennis player who fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:NTENNIS. Sources I found, at least in English, are just routine match coverage. I am not familiar with the Russian language at all so if anyone can find anything of note in Russian, I am glad to reconsider. Adamtt9 (talk) 23:49, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - He is one of the famous athletes and is mentioned in more than 30 en:Wikipedia articles. He became a quarterfinalist of junior Grand Slam tournaments four times. In total, he participated in 12 junior Grand Slam tournaments and is accordingly mentioned in articles about these tournaments. He became the winner of ten ITF junior tournaments (2 in singles), reaching 12th place in the ITF World Junior ranking (2018). During 2024, he was a finalist once and quarter finalists twice on the ATP Challenger Tour - see: 2024 ATP Challenger Tour. It is the eighth of the rooms in Top Russian male singles tennis players. --Zboris (talk) 23:27, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added some more content and citations to this article (one in English and two in Dutch). Not sure if that makes it now meet the required criteria for significant coverage but thought I'd point it out. I'll let others with more intricate knowledge of the required standards decide if the subject of the article meets the required notability. Shrug02 (talk) 00:16, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Americanoid

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Delete or possibly merge with Okunev culture. The first paragraph is about a "discounted" theory which probably doesn't deserve its own article. The second also is not deserving of its own article and can be merged if it isn't already in the Okunev article (I only skimmed it). PersusjCP (talk) 04:41, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Based on searches this was a theory regarding Siberian and other northern ancient peoples that was promulgated in the early 20th century, specifically by Russian anthropologists. As it is no longer an accepted designation, a few sentences in an article for the subsequent theory should suffice. I did find one article that criticized the term and attributed it specifically to Russian racism, but that perhaps could be a marker of scientific enmity and distrust of Russian science. Lamona (talk) 23:40, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and reformat as a WP:Disambiguation page and merge appropriate content Vladimir Jochelson per WP:ATD. Given that there are two verifiable definitions being used, one linking to Vladimir Jochelson and the other Ancient North Eurasian/Okunev culture, this is a reasonable navigational page.4meter4 (talk) 00:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Redirect to Okunev culture. There's no need for a merge as the subject is already covered sufficiently there. No need for a DAB page. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 10:53, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Vladimir Jochelson. Short, poorly sourced article about a theory by a notable scholar seems like an obvious merge to me. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 04:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would be fine with this merge to help reach a WP:CONSENSUS.4meter4 (talk) 05:11, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Would be fine with merging with Vladimir Jochelson as well, for consensus. PersusjCP (talk) 17:50, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Okunev culture. Encoded Talk 💬 18:51, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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