User talk:El C

If you have the capacity to tremble with indignation every time that an injustice is committed in the world, then we are comrades. – Che.

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For you

El C, contrary to your edit summary- I noticed you were gone, and missed seeing you on recent changes. You are one of my favourite editors. This is for you. Regards, dvdrw 04:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Yay! Many chipthanks for the kind words. Greatly appreciated. Best, El_C 06:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Well I noticed and missed you! (Official circular here). Novickas (talk) 12:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Thought of you while uploading this picture [1]... for all of your work. Novickas (talk) 17:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks! El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm sort of in a hole and am having difficulties submerging. Speaking of holes/that chippie, I got to do some visiting in its burro recently...

Later, adding even more festive decorations, and inspected the whiskers:

And some drinky-drinky as well as rubbing under chin:

Also, two days ago I got to rub a cheekadee's tummy(!); for a handsome reward, of course:

Love, El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

You look really good in your purple hat! Bishonen | talk 00:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC).

Free hat! Today, while cheekadeepetting, this lady who saw us from a far, came over and said: "Can I tell you something...? You're an angel of God."(!) To which I of course replied: "All hail Atheismo!" [nah, I said: "thank you, maddam, that's very kind of you" — what else could I say?] I took an especially neat cheekadeepetting photograph today: it remained visible between my thumb and index as it flew away, giving the illusion it was bee-sized! What an unexpected, and sweet, effect! El_C 02:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow, Capitano, where do you get a large enough sweater for a person with that hand? Bishonen | talk 20:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC).

And then there's Skunky! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Oooo. Purdy!

Combine obvious love of animals with photography results in photographic win! — Coren ^(talk) 15:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Great to learn that peoples (plural!) like! Chickadee says hi! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

Here's some peanuts for Hidey. He hasn't got any!

Hello. Thanks, SqueakBox 23:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Wishing you the very best for the season. Guettarda (talk) 00:26, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Thx, everyone! Happy 2009! El_C 12:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy Groundhog Day

Happy day! Jehochman ^Talk 19:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Chippies

El C, I've been meaning to ask for ages. What is the link between revolutionary socialism and chimpunks? Did I miss that bit in Animal Farm? Is it something to do with resting the means of damn making from beavers? --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

No link; but are you referring to Groundhog? (see left) There is a Groundhog-Chippie connection, which I was trying to further cultivate (see right). El_C 11:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

"Love is in the air ....dooooo .....dooo.dooo ......doooo ......dooo.doooo ." --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'm envious. You get to pet ALL the fuzzeh creatures!  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  01:40, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Book?

Let me know when it is out, and you will up your sales by one. :-) KillerChihuahua^?!? 09:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

4Tality Fractal

1. Four Facets of existence: 1. Matter 2. Energy 3. Space 4. Time

2. Four Dimensions: 1. 1D 2. 2D 3. 3D 4. 4D (temporal)

3. Four Fundamental interactions: 1. Strong 2. EM 3. Weak 4. Gravity

4. Four States of matter: 1. Solid 2. Liquid 3. Gas 4. Plasma

El_C 07:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Rev-dels

Just for information at the moment: are you able to do revision deletions? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:47, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Affirmative. El_C 20:46, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

OK, thanks. There are a couple of admins I usually contact when I see something that needs to deleted, but unfortunately they let real life interfere with their admin duties. You are online a lot at the same times I am, so it's good to have another person to contact if needed. I generally only ask personally if it's both serious and urgent. - BilCat (talk) 02:29, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes, by all means. If I'm around, please don't hesitate. El_C 02:30, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks very much. I realize.my wording above presumes you'd be willing, and that I didn't actually ask, so thanks. :) - BilCat (talk) 04:01, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Romania

And all I got was this... Whoa!

I can live with your highly arbitrary closing summary of the RfC on the Talk page, so I do not want to persuade you to change it. However, you closed other on-going debates as well. Could you open the other debates? Thank you. Borsoka (talk) 05:57, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Ah, the thanks I get! El_C 05:58, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

And all I got was a ^^^

• Talk:And Then There Were None#RfC: And Then There Were None and racial language
• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics#Request for comments on the 'political position' parameter of the political party infobox
• Talk:Romania#RfC
• Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: HispanTV
• Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship#Is RfX a vote, or a consensus discussion? (RfC)
• Talk:Civil Rights Act of 1968#Merger of Fair Housing Act and Indian Civil Rights Act of 1968 into this article
• Talk:WikiLeaks#RFC: Murder Of Seth Rich content dispute
• Talk:Athens News#Request for comment
• Talk:SNC-Lavalin affair#RfC: LavScam
• Talk:Christchurch mosque shootings#RfC: Change "white supremacist" to "white nationalist"

El_C 06:06, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Nice. Thanks, Gerda! El_C 08:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. Good day, see? Take music and flowers to your liking ;) - It's great to see your name so often on my watchlist. One area where I often wait for admin action - not now - is WP:ITNN, where we nominate for recent deaths to be shown on th Main page, and often the time between an article found [Ready] and then is [Posted] seems [too] long to still call it recent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Ah, good ol' ITNC —where I got no credit for being the first to have  Posted the Corona virus outbreak, but upon (admittedly, perhaps somewhat prematurely) doing the same for the Kirk Douglas RD got a what-the-fuck-barbeque— it's a magical place! El_C 11:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

I see, sorry for touching some wound ;) - Same for me: last year, I nominated a great pianist for RD, after I first had create an article which took time, and then carried away to also make it decent, - and by then her death was so long ago that she wasn't mentioned at all. The more woman, and the more foreign, that danger seems imminent, and if I may bother you in case I seee it coming again, that would be great. At present, it's a man, listed 20 Feb (although who knows if that was the day?), and nobody even commented yet, so nothing to be concerned about right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Hey, by all means, if you feel Peter Dreher is [Ready], let me know so I could do the honours. El_C 12:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

I nominated him, so am not the most independent to judge ;) - and I'm already busy with the next, a woman, but mostly not foreign. - I really think we have some unintended bias there: the most prominent figures (white U.S. males) get speedy attention, and appear soon at the top position, while the female foreigners - often reported late to start with - take so long to even be noticed that they get only a place towards the end, finally, - as long as we go by date of death and not "in at the top". Result: those who are promminent already get preferred showing, more in front, and longer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

Indeed, countering systemic bias is a treacherous mistress — though in the case of Kirk Douglas, I have to admit my own affinity for his admirable work countering the Hollywood blacklist... Anyway, +Peter Dreher to RD. El_C 13:16, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

February flowers

Alte Liebe

Thank you, love-ly! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:42, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

I nominated the poet for ITNN. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:36, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

At the [Ready]! El_C 14:48, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

and posted ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

That was quick! I helped? El_C 17:33, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

think so ;) - today's Alte Liebe became especially meaningful after yesterday's funeral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

Next foreign women RD: Odile Pierre. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: sorry for the belated response — I overlooked your last message. Apologies for not being able to assist with that one. Please don't hesitate to list more. I'll try to be more cognizant of this thread next time, I promise. El_C 03:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Gerda's corner

Add some colour to the corner! El_C 08:46, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

To help me better remember! El_C 05:10, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Gerda’s corner is lovely. When I have more time in my life and can do things beyond blocking socks, I plan to spend time there getting some of the Holy Thursday hymns on the main page. Gerda, if it’s not too late to find one, let me know. The Pange Lingua is always a first choice, but if there are any others you can think of, I’m open. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Also, El C’s talk page is lovely, especially for his hosting my musing about music he likely doesn’t care about one iota! TonyBallioni (talk) 05:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Actually, I like all kinds of music, including of the eclectic and esoteric variaty — lately I've been Dimashing it up (special thanks goes to Jasmin Ariane!). El_C 05:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Lovely corner, thank you! Today is The day of music, two choirs singing. I'd like Beati improved - but it's in the evensong, perhaps I'll get to a few more lines. On IWD, I should also get Elinor Ross in better shape ... - but singing comes first. Listen to Beati by voces8, another article needing improvement. Singing comes first ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

On the ITNN page, 6 Mar, Carsten Bresch. We will possibly never know when he died, but should use 6 - when the world was informed - as the day by which we go. I may be alone with that view ;) - Lovely lively colours! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Expect the sky to fall at ITNC — posted with Mar 0? (!). El_C 13:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for posting, and I added "Posted", but don't want to pass credits. DYK you know that it is as easy as clicking on the words "credit" in the nom? Nice progress on the soprano, but out for singing (alto), second round. A good source for her death would be a nice addition, anyone. this is all Spanish to me, and the English one is a blog. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

nom done, and the credits were done by someone else - bedtime --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Sleep tight. El_C 23:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

done also, and she's there - today's topic seem to be errors (3) in the OTD section of the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Amakuru took care of that! - What should I do about this decline? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

If you're confident it's good, I would move it to main namespace nonetheless. El_C 10:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

How about you? - I asked the decliner for reasoning, but got no answer. I think it might be better if it's not a personal thing between them and me, so an independent pair of eyes might help. - I don't go via AfC, nor does my friend LouisAlain, but last year many of his translations were sent to draft space, for lack of refs, just because de and fr have different ideas about referencing. I try to rescue, that's all. Then get a ridiculous template on my talk recommending the Teahouse, and still see the ridiculous decline template recommending to seek help from an experienced editor, - the things we do to voluntary contributors ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done. Mainspacified. And I didn't even visit the Teahouse! El_C 13:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

pacified ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for tagging me, El_C! Concerning Dimash: Oh wow, I really didn't expect that! But I'm happy you enjoy it! It's funny, it's not even a genre I usually listen to. But the first time I heard him 2 years ago, I immediately loved his music. I love his voice, his emotional interpretation; and his vocal skill, range and versatility are just enormous. And he seems to be a very nice and humble guy, which makes it even easier to like him. PS: "eclectic and esoteric variety"? Wow, that sounds interesting. Jasmin Ariane (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

♫ Welcome to the corner, Jasmin! Yes, I love Dimash's Sinful Passion, New Wave, SOS d'un terrien en détresse, Ogni Pietra (Olimpico), Opera 2, and more. Indeed, music-wise, I'm all over the place. Yesterday, I was listening to the Mahavishnu Orchestra, I'm listening to Charlie Byrd right now (because I love bossa nova, above all else), and I'm listening to the China Philharmonic Orchestra in the car currently. So, yeah, all over the place. Welcome, again! ♫ El_C 16:47, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Gerda's February corner

Hellebore

Want a drink in darkness? - Schloss Freudenberg --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Somehow, I don't really see that concept spreading to other bars... Back to out previous conversation, somewhat, a different kind of Green: "MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE - A Randy Rainbow Song Parody" (just released). El_C 14:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I missed Mathsci for two years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Criss-crossing paths... El_C 15:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

BWV 1, concertante violin 1 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

That's right, I remember seeing that. El_C 15:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Did you ever click on Reformation on my user page, first occurence? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I have clicked on all of the (longstanding) links on your userpage. El_C 16:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I am impressed. ... and follow to what the first 2 had discussed, and used, and then one of them needed it, and probably had known that all the time? ... which was my user page lead until 2021 when I decided people hovering over my name should see a pic I took. The last time I used it was for Cassianto, 24 May 2020. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Sure, but otherwise, your userpage isn't easy to parse, due to the fact that you actually use it. I edit mine like once a decade. El_C 18:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I copied that from BarkingMoon including the top icon - a bird on the Main page today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Love it when the Main page gets that much colour. I noticed that article yesterday and thought: wow, those birds are almost as iridescent as Hummingbirds , which are... well, kinda the best! El_C 18:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Opa is now on the Main page, Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - see here. - Further down on the page, there are conversations about the current arb case request - I feel I have to stay away - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Yay for Green Opa! This made my day! El_C 16:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Today, we have Doris Stockhausen on her 97th birthday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Till 120! El_C 15:39, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Birds of a feather

External videos
Bitter-sweet groove (translation unavailable on request!)

Spiel nicht mit den Schmuddelkindern ... anticipated protest --- and listen, not to me, but the music (in the article) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

... and after the music, please listen to User talk:Nikkimaria --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I don't understand. There's a YouTube video at the bottom of the page, but it's just some people talking in German (which I don't-Opa-understand) alongside some German folk music (not my cup of tea). Then, you link to Nikkimaria's talk page as an ill with numbers and stuff, but it still only links to their main user talk page. Quite confusing. El_C 13:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

entirely my fault, I thought I had the video in the article, but no, only on the talk of Martinevans123, and when I'm absent-minded, I confuse ill and diff, Nikkimaria. But hurray, I just expanded the soprano, sufficiently I hope. Need fresh air now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't really like that song. Didn't dislike it either. Was just kinda meh. Personally, I prefer the Israeli children songs I grew up on, like הילדה הכי יפה בגן, for example. El_C 16:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Mr. Degenhardt would have been delighted! Not a song to be liked, - did you read the quote which I translated (improving on Deeple) per the talk request. Song talk about unpleasant smells, ending with a crime and a corpse swimming ... while the surviving grubby children keep singing that you better don't play with them. - Thanks for yours. Did you read my advice for M? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I did not. Quoted where? Also, after Opa, I'm afraid to ask, but what's a "Deeple"? Yes, I saw it. Sound advise, but I'm still concerned that further cognizance will nonetheless be needed in order to avoid utter disaster in the future. El_C 16:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

my next mistake, DeepL - as you know everything about me you'll know that I am an infobox warrior who had to be restricted by arbcom to prevent utter disaster in the future. For 2 years I was too proud to appeal. I should have known SBHB's advice in the case, but then we might not have gotten to Beethoven ;) - RfC for Ian Fleming, and I stay away, I stay away, I don't play that game any more - please, be never afraid to ask! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Matti Caspi laments about how many songs can even be created, but does so in a song he created (כמה שירים אפשר להמציא בכלל), so there you go. Take that, eternity! El_C 17:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Gerda doesn't lament but enjoys the support by Brian, continued when others called her guilty, - always trying to mediate. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Tis the season for bitter-sweet...? Also, trying something (top of section — EEng uncredited mention). El_C 18:45, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

look --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

did you? - interesting bitter-sweet today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

I did in passing, but I just am not in the headspace for riddles today, I'm afraid. But I did like File:Idstein,_Unytsjerke._Oersjoch_ynterieur.jpg. Almost-but-not-quite grand; warm but-not-quite gaudy. Sorry, I haven't heard of that translator before. Did you know her, personally? El_C 23:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. The church pic - as you will have seen - is in my user infobox for 2021. I don't know the singer personally, but she sang for us several times, Bach's great works (all explained if you follow the link, also (below there) that some like to receive my thanks and appreciation), and she sang recently in cantata services that I pictured (her page). On all these pictures, she is too small for "about her", and my lead is smaller "about me", of course. - I knew nothing about the translator, but she was a red link on Deaths in 2021. The bitter-sweetness is between her and her ex-husband, a novelist with an article who wrote her obit. (They had four children when they were divorced, and now he has ten.) - The delegate called me to task for the Bach cantata, so I will have to not follow spontaneous impulses for a few days, - hope no one dies whose article has to be written. In the cantata, BWV 1, I have a problem. The article was all built on one source (and all other Bach cantatas at the time also, btw) which one user denies reliability. I wanted to keep it, supporting it for all facts - only recordings, anyway - by a second source, trying to be faithful to the article history and to retain what editors did before me. He removed it. Quite generally, I have a problem with expansions which ignore what former editors achieved, see BWV 53 and Ian Fleming for recently mentioned examples. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah, just read that at: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/08/dr-vera-wulfing-leckie-obituary — I see what you mean. Right, I knew it (the church) looked familiar. Hope you're able to resolve your BWV 1 problem. I'd offer to help, but I'd probably just mess it up, anyway. El_C 16:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

You will not mess anything up if you look at the old ref and tell me if it looks despicable to you, just for curiosity. The article was like this when I began "taking over". - Did you see this trying to revert a takeover? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

It does not look "despicable" to me, but I am far from an authority. This is not an area with which I am familiar. El_C 18:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, helped. I just found this (having searched for Thomanerchor) and look what is bolded, and praised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Helleborus orientalis

happy Valentine's! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, for you, too. Did an English translation of a song at User_talk:El_C#Us, btw, and am about to submit another ("US," itself), so check it out! El_C 16:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

adding today's featured picture of February 17 - a nice match to my wild one --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Lovely, lovely! El_C 23:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Request to put 2021 storming of the United States Capitol under WP:1RR

@El C: @Octoberwoodland: Continuing this discussion, I'd like to request that 2021 storming of the United States Capitol be put under WP:1RR (I guess that would be Template:American politics AE?). How do I make such a request? Post to WP:AN? Or can an admin (i.e. you :-)) do that without a formal request? — Chrisahn (talk) 23:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Chrisahn, right, you ask me, here, like so. But can you show that there is a lot of protracted edit warring going on? Because I'm wary of throttling a page that sees that much activity. Not sure why you pinged Octoberwoodland here. They are not an admin, so they do not have the authority to grant your request. El_C 00:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

No, there hasn't been much edit warring. Just like Octoberwoodland, I thought the page was already under 1RR, and I thought it would be useful. But if you'd rather not do it yet, that's fine with me as well. If problems do arise, I'll come back here. But I hope it won't be necessary. :-) (The ping was just because Octoberwoodland started the discussion at Alalch Emis's talk page and might want to chime in here.) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Just understood that moments ago (the ping). Anyway, in general, restrictions are added by need only. The general consensus among admins is to wait and see, and only if needed add 1RR. And if that isn't enough, only then move on to additional enhancements, like Consensus required (i.e. gradual escalation). Regards, El_C 00:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation! These processes are more fine-grained than I thought. Probably a good thing. Although I'm afraid I won't remember the difference between {{ds/editnotice}} and {{ds/talk notice}} a week from now. :-) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

I just type T:DSA (all listed at the bottom), otherwise, who can remember! El_C 00:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

It is time I knew more about do's and don'ts applicable to infoboxes. Could you let me have the link to any WP that applies to Infoboxes as such? Qexigator (talk) 17:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm far from an authority on infoboxes, Qexigator, so short of pointing you to the MOS:INFOBOX-obvious, I would just advise you to avoid WP:ARBINFOBOX2 at all cost! Regards, El_C 18:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Some users get hot about infoboxes, while for others it's the normal thing to have. Before adding an infobox to an article without one, check for warnings in edit mode, and for discussions on the talk page. Recent example Ian Fleming, nonono. Those who made the article as nice as it is today don't like it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:23, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Haha! See what I mean, Qexigator? *Pokes Gerda* El_C 18:25, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the link to MOS:INFOBOX. This comfirms my experience when I have been looking at or editing other well-established articles on impottant topics: the infobox is 'to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article (an article should remain complete with its summary infobox ignored,,,The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance,' If well done, they can be very helpful when needed.' Qexigator (talk) 18:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

My favourite is Beethoven. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

The unquestionable elegance of less is more. El_C 19:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

I am so proud of that ;) - Did you know that I designed it in the workshop of Teh Case ("Actually, I believe almost every article would profit from a placement like that in history and geography.")? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Us

User:El C/Songs from the homeland (YouTube links to individual performances are at the top of the subpage, in boldface)

"You See Far, You See Clear"

"Us"

"I Want Us To Be Realized"

"Didn't Know You'd Walk Away From Me"

"You Put My Hand In Yours"

"A Place Of Worry"

What Is Love?

"How Is It That A Star"

"A Love Song (Like A Wheel)"

"Sitting On The Fence"

"Fragile"

"In Praise Of Samba"

"Where Are You?"

"Poogy Tales"

"Tell Me"

"There Were Nights"

"It Happens"

"Drawing"

"Yes, It Has No Chance, But Between Myself And I Everything Is Allowed"

Last updated: El_C 09:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Gerda loves subsections!

Thanks for sharing! Reminds me of my one and only contrib to the Hebrew Wikipedia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

I would have liked to add the pic to context, but can't tell ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Are you referring to he:קובץ:Ubud_Cremation_4.jpg, because that is one scary dragon! El_C 08:51, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

yes ;) - that pic was taken by my much-missed friend who made the good version for Ian Fleming, and my illustration for the infobox wars (see the link to the workshop, and in my 2020 talk archive). - On the other topic, Bach, we have now another ANI, by Smerus, Nikkimaria is fighting, I shake my head and try to look away, and Mathsci is still blocked. How many more editors in good standing are going to be burnt? - I like the singers music, but the images best when I see him, not graphics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Haha! All roads lead to Ian Fleming, it seems. Also, you're making me sound like the grim reaper, but I just want to pet a chipmunk! El_C 11:03, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

"making you sound"? I just tremble with indignation - out for the day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

That's the second time today where I've had Che quoted back at me — looks like it's gonna be one of those days... Enjoy your outing! El_C 11:13, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Innisfree Garden

Back from sun and snow: sorry if that landed wrong. I was a bit in a rush, and reacted to "all roads lead to IF". I don't care about IF, at all, the number of my edits to his article is zero, the number of my edits to the talk page is zero. I had not thought of him in years until the ongoing RfC, and my edits will remain zero. I use his name as an example, because - with the RfC going - I can mention it, otherwise if I mentioned a name from the group someone would come and cry "canvassing".

I thought about the animosity, and what I can trace back (because I really don't understand it), and looked at what I wrote about Ian Fleming on the page deleted as a call to battle. I made a note of the name, that it was infobox person (red background indicating that it was lost) and the above-mentioned diff of a good version from 2012 piped to the date. That's all. I had forgotten until I looked it up now that my friend had made the good version. When we lost him (later that year) I spread the image all over the Wikipedias, even Hebrew (with some help from a friend from Jerusalem). My first reaction had been to leave, but then I didn't want to do his enemies that favour ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Ooh, that is some lovley greenery. So nice. Also, you can CANVASS me any day, Gerda, but should probably note my propensity to call (!)voter fraud whenever things don't go my way (diff). Anyway, trying to take it easy today, with the occasional bouts of critical drinking. El_C 19:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Fine, easy today, will explain "canvass" some other day, also why I think the animosity is inherited, because the listing described really doesn't explain it, - although I can see (now) that the red background - about as red as your top image - could be seen as inflammatory. But a reason to leave Wikipedia? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Easier today, with progress on BWV 1. Back to the beginning, Hebrew: we miss Yoninah, terribly, and one of the many things she would have done for me is adding the text of a psalm to the article, compare Psalm 45 and Psalm 43. The text can be found at the bottom, in External links. I could probably manage but would feel safer if someone did it who could actually read it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Oh, good, glad to hear it. Yup, I well know Yoninah for her top-tier contributions. I wouldn't count our losses yet, though. She's only been gone less than a month. Hopefully, she'll return soon. *Sending positive vibes* El_C 11:01, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Haha! Dangerous terrain (diff), who would have thunk it? (Seriously, I didn't.) El_C 11:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Hmm. I confess to being puzzled (diff). Anyway, pinged you to User_talk:Veverve#Psalm_43_query. Hopefully, my confusion can be assuaged. El_C 11:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

did it? (I had an edit conflict there) - thank you for a new word, "assuaged" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

See the trouble you get me into? Now to ameliorate! El_C 11:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

going out again, sun and snow, will think about amelioration when walking --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Obligatory Here Comes Sunshine spam! El_C 12:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

refreshed: spam for spam (subject of my first article, which was supposed to be the only one, but it had this red link ...) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Very nice, but I still think I'm owed some Psalms-related comforting! El_C 20:38, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

"no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I like that a lot! El_C 20:49, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Sadly: more work for you, in her memory. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Guess what, BWV 1 and BWV 159 make progress. You mentioned AE. I was there, last 2015. It was so awful that I dropped all pride (and it felt like giving up walking uprightly - watch out for Psalm 110 there) and appealed (and even successfully so). Starlight on top of that archive ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:01, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

I'll take some startlight — been flying too close to the sun lately, truth be told. El_C 18:34, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

You are welcome! I made a hook, also for you.

Did you know ...

... that Universalkünstler
Arik Brauer
created paintings in Fantastic Realism,
songs in Austropop,
stage sets for the Paris Opera,
and house facades in Austria and Israel?

(17 February 2021)

One this day nine years ago, I told Voceditenore that she is a voice of opera and reason. In 2018, she said: "And, no, there haven't been infobox squabbles in ages. I personally use them all the time now for biographies and operas. There are a few diehards left, but the general attitude from both perspectives seems to have settled on live and let live." So why is it that some still can't settle on live and let live? - The next cookbook author is scheluded to appear as TFA (with a nice infobox btw, as the last), and I will keep the usual thanks to the creator for myself as insistent, but I don't understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Love the artwork of Arik Brauer — nicely done! Ah, the vicissitudes of infoboxen, its ebbs and and flow. What a peculiar thing it is. El_C 14:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

No, it doesn't. It could just ebb. In 2018, it was no concern. Why is it now? Why can't we just edit the little boxes as other content: someone adds, and if someone reverts, consensus needs to be established. Instead, someone adding, or requesting, or just asking where it went, is considered a warrior. The question where it went often goes like this: when a certain group of editors expanded an article, they collapsed it (thinking that was a compromise, but making life harder for those having physical trouble to click the "show" button). That caused a little edit-war, which was "resolved" by taking it away completely, with a discussion like this on the talk following. Ever since, we have been reminded that there was this consensus not to have one, and we are supposed to believe that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

For sure, I am like-minded with you in that interpretation. WP:ONUS should generally be observed, like elsewhere. Indeed, there really isn't an excuse for not doing so. In theory, per WP:ARBINFOBOX2, WP:ACDS allows admins to just straight-up make it (ONUS) a requirement by adding Consensus required to intractable infobox disputes. My sense is that most admins just do not want to touch these because it usually ends up amounting to a zero-sum game, at best — myself, I don't really engage infobox disputes in an AE capacity, because the history and politics AE topic areas keep me busy enough (diff). El_C 16:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

There are almost no "intractable infobox disputes", really, so DS serves no purpose. The problem is that a newcomer who has no idea of a minefield is treated as a warrior. - I love your translations. We should have more us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah, understood. Admittedly, I do not have a firm grasp of what's happening on the infobox front. RE: translations. Many thanks! I appreciate your praise very much. Also Val's. Strange how it took me hours and hours to do the first one, an hour to do the second one, and 30 minutes to do the third one. But I think I'm now finally satisfied with the final form of all three translations, so at least I'm done with the constant tinkering (though not to jinx it!). El_C 16:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

For more understanding: imagine - if you can, it takes courage - for a moment that back in 2012, the infobox had been kept as it had been for years then already. Imagine. - Certainly thanks to presentation here, Arik Brauer made it to the stats, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Play Bach

How do you like this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Enjoy the music, and make it last. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

(As) I always do, Gerda! Yours always, El_C 12:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Great music offer! - What do you think of the start of Reception, - the little prince never gives up a question. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Not usually a fan of princes, but here's one that really did music-it-up! El_C 12:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Agree about Johann Ernst! The Little Prince never gives up a question, "the prince has golden hair, a lovable laugh, and will repeat questions until they are answered". How do you like the beginning of reception? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

One of my favourite books growing up... Reception looks great to me. I think he did a fine job. Top tier musicology. El_C 16:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

I agree, but who is "he"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

"You know, that guy — who always wore a shirt." Oh, sorry, did you write that, with him just having merged it? It's a low attention span -day today, so brace yourself! El_C 17:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Nonono, I could never write such a thing (+ I'm not a "he" as the writer is, and yes, the obvious "he" just merged it). Two ways to the answer: you follow the links in the edit summary (better the second), or you look at the new article's talk page. Unless you just guess why I come to you of all people with this question, and may guess right. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

A riddle — noo! There better not be a math and science test at the end of this! El_C 17:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

test? first question in this thread has one (!) link, leading to the initial entry of a new article, with two (but I said better second) links, with the second leading to where an estimated 95% of the content came from. [2] - a fine job, indeed, not my style, but fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hoping for a D-. That would be about right. El_C 17:57, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

An unblock would do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Gerda, for reasons which are my own, attending to this dispute, in any administrative capacity, just isn't something I wish to engage at this time. Sorry. El_C 20:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Understand. Appreciation of outstanding work is better. You can tell other admins where the clue is - my lead image until 2021 came, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Of course, happy to pass on genuine positive impressions, always. Yes, I do. Breathtaking, primordial. El_C 22:26, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

"at times heavy to carry" (quoting myself still from the same page which also has the model for Precious, did you see? - the cabal of the outcast, - I told Bus stop four years ago, feel like Cassandre) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

And that's very much okay to express. Also, we can be in diametric opposition about whatever from time to time. That is also okay. El_C 23:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Psalm 12 when you have time - what happened? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

An edit request by Narky Blert

I have just set up an alternative account, Narky Blert (alt), so that I can edit logged-in until I can regain access to my main account, Narky Blert. (Condensed story - I fell ill in early December, with the result that I was admitted to hospital having being found unconscious after three days. I was discharged after a week, and consider myself recovered. An annoying side-effect was that I broke my PC, and am having trouble in recovering my PWs (that should be possible, but I'm having to rely on third parties).)

To comply with WP:ALTACC, I want to edit User:Narky Blert to add:

{{User alternative account name|Narky Blert (alt)}}

{{-}}

at the top, and

[[Category:Wikipedia alternative accounts]]

at the bottom. However, as a newly-registered user, I cannot. Could I ask you to do this for me?

As a token of good faith, I offer you "Bella ciao" - [3], which strikes me as right up your street. Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 15:02, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Holy shit! So sorry to hear that, but glad you're on the mend. For sure, I'll get right on that. Wow, that's nuts. Thanks for the song. Glad to have you back, but take it easy, please! Jeez. El_C 15:10, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm feeling better now than I have for months; I must have been building up to that episode which landed me in hospital. Now, if only I could do something about the misbegotten ISP I'm currently on... Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 17:34, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

But you made it, that's the most important thing! I love you, bwo! El_C 17:47, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Prayer for Ukraine

I took a pic in 2009 that was on the German MP yesterday, with the song from 1885, in English Prayer for Ukraine. - "Our" next psalm is Psalm 92, last week's, yesterday we had Psalm 91 but that - with the guardian angels is already covered, and I added compositions today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:03, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Wow, did you take that picture with a Nokia flip phone or something? I can count the pixels! (No NoPixel jokes, please! But yes latest music.) BTW, are you at all familiar with the teachings of Rabbi Nachman? El_C 11:30, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

I don't remember - keep loosing my cameras. It's an excerpt of a larger pic, of course, and from the time when I joined Wikipedia. - No, not familiar, will perhaps look when dark. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

See Nachman_of_Breslov#Teachings. Last bulletpoint: He emphasized [the] importance of music for spiritual development and religious practice. His was probably the most philosophically sophisticated of the Hasidic Movement, now known as the Breslov (Hasidic group). Their Rosh Hashana kibbutz (annual pilgrimage to Uman, Ukraine) is a pretty big deal in both Israel and Ukraine. El_C 11:59, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, but was too busy yesterday. IWD today, so I decorated my talk showing two who didn't make it, one from Russia and one from Ukraine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Good stuff. Happy International Women's Day! El_C 18:51, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Wrote the translation of Anna Korsun to German, and began Zofia Kilanowicz, for the occasion. Sang an extra song for peace in rehearsal. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:11, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

March songs

I listened to the charity concert mentioned here (on radio, it was soon sold out), and created the articles of the composer and the soprano. Alto to follow today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:10, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Do you think you could provide Psalm 92 (and then 14)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Nice. It's been a while since my last concert. Those Psalms look dunzo'd. El_C 03:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

How to listen? El_C 05:09, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

To that concert? I don't know, there was a lot of recording going on, but I don't know if for the public. - To Prayer for Ukraine? - see article. To the Frankfurt concert? [4] - composer on the Main page now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

sorry about not having looked "down" enough for the psalms - yesterday was 27, also "dun". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:35, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

DunZO! Yeah, the latest (I'm caught up with the rest), too badzo. El_C 16:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

St. Patrick's Day, more music and today's sunset no cow--Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Nice sunset, still, though! BTW, we've moved past cows. We're doing sloth wizards now. Catch up with the lore! El_C 04:40, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

on Bach's birthday: the places where I sang his Dona nobis pacem --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Happy BachDay! Wow, Evangelische Marktkirche in Wiesbaden looks like an intergalactic spaceship, with pillars. El_C 22:16, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

the place where Reger-Chor performed first --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:20, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Very cool. It also looks like a spaceship from the outside, but with un-rounded corners. What a twist! El_C 22:26, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

The Prayer is on the Main page, finally + new flowers, and btw: the TFA is a young writer's first --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Well done! That deserves flowers (of peace (against all odds)). El_C 12:48, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Bach's No. 1 today for illumination --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Very nice, can't go wrong with the classics (classics). Funk No. 1, for yesterday's exaltation (today). El_C 16:04, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

thank you ;) - back to Psalm 14, it looked done but looking closer, I don't get why Hebrew is shorter, and has a different beginning, and the explanation is that it's not the complete but some sort of difference. Can you check that please? - Prayer for Ukraine: I heard it as "encore" after a live opera performance from Staatsoper Hannover, sung and played with heart by the complete ensemble. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Sunday flowers and sounds, don't miss the extraordinary marriage of the beginnings of the theme of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1, and Prayer for Ukraine - here! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Like. Congrats! You are a musical editing machine! In answer to your question: some of the Aramaic-derived Hebrew words combine nouns and verbs all in a single word. El_C 14:04, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

thank you, exquisite voice today, heard on 11 March --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

(unless you already do) please help watching the TFA Operation Mincemeat because the author is not active --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:34, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

I have virtually every major military engagement on my watchlist. But I haven't opened my watchlist in 2022 yet, so there's that. El_C 12:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Not sure if I understand. I look at my watchlist about once per hour. You could just look at editing history every now and then, or do nothing. I wanted to write about an Israeli conductor today but came a feminist - the perfect topic for women's month. Her pic is on the Main page, and I learned a lot expanding. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Cool. Also, I love train conductors, too! RE: Watchlist, see: File:77,777.jpeg (btw, I've long surpassed 100K for some reason). El_C 13:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

now that's so funny: when I was about to pass 55.555 I decided that this was nonsense and began to reduce one by one, having reached 42k+ - this conductor leads an orchestra, but my grandfather was a train conductor --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Could you please do me a favour regarding Psalm 14: do the Hebrew in the normal fashion. What's there is a subset, has no verse numbers, - tricky. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:28, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Double cool! Also, I definitely agree with you: train, orchestra conductors — basically the same thing, interchangeable. El_C 13:31, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

What, never! El_C 13:31, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Okay, I did the thing. El_C 13:41, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks re Myanmar

Hi El C, I know it was a while ago but I want to thank you for your patience with me on the Myanmar articles. I have a tendency to get flustered when coming under attack, so I made some mistakes when that happened with some new editors who happened to be from Myanmar. I have a lot of sympathy for their situation, though. I edit in that area because it's one of the most backwards regimes in the world but that gets very little attention. Anyway, thanks and happy holidays. 25stargeneral (talk) 18:23, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for the belated reply, 25stargeneral, and thank you for your kind words, it means a lot. Happy hollidays to you, too! El_C 17:17, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm currently watching the top gear special in Myanmar. Happy Holidays El_C! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:19, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy Holidays to you, as well, my friend! El_C 17:21, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi I am back with a new name! I'm planning on focusing my work going forward more on content creation. I regret being at times insensitive in my approach to other editors in the Myanmar area, so I just wanted to ask, if you happen to notice me editing in a less-than-collaborative way, could you please give me a nudge in the right direction, even if it doesn't rise to anything actionable? I would greatly appreciate it. I will go through the normal channels from now on if there is something that I believe needs admin attention. TEMPO156 (talk) 18:54, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

You've got mail!

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A little bit strange for naive user. -Lemonaka‎ 13:04, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

	A very happy Christmas and New Year to you!
	Have a great Christmas, and may 2024 bring you joy, happiness – and no trolls, vandals or visits from Krampus! Cheers SchroCat (talk) 15:20, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Many thanks, SchroCat, merry Christmas and happy new year to you too! 🎅 El_C 08:48, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Norman Lear

Thank you for the page protection, could you please restore the infobox image, the IP changed it right before you set the protection. Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 16:51, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

And you reverted 30 minutes prior to that. That's just the luck of the draw. El_C 17:00, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanx for supporting an editwaring IP. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:07, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

As opposed to an edit warring veteran editor? It takes two to edit war, and you do not get supremacy over an IP editor by virtue of being a veteran editor. So you can take your Wrong version complaint and sarcasm elsewhere. El_C 17:13, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm done here, you prob now. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:24, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Works for me, even though I don't understand what is meant by you prob now (what is a "prob"?). El_C 17:28, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

I have tried to discuss this issue on the talk page, but I am met only with vague responses and rationalizations about why an obscure 1975 photo is somehow more appropriate. Instead user FlightTime seems to be giving off the feeling that he is superior and because "they said so" therefore the old photo must be sealed for eternity.

Are we serving the public on Wikipedia or our own interests? What would actually be more recognizable for the general public, a more recent photo of Mr. Lear (of which there are many, again just look at google image results), or a cropped and not easily identifiable one that some users are stubbornly insisting be used? 2604:3D09:6A85:6000:AC47:C232:AFD7:7802 (talk) 18:50, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

I know you tried, IP. If you end up at an impasse on the talk page, you could always try seeking a Third opinion or even a more substantive Request for comment. HTH. El_C 18:54, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your considerate responses. 2604:3D09:6A85:6000:AC47:C232:AFD7:7802 (talk) 19:21, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

What would be the process for Third Opinion or Request for Comment should it come to that? 2604:3D09:6A85:6000:AC47:C232:AFD7:7802 (talk) 19:35, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

I already linked it. El_C 19:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

European Economic Area

Hi. The EEA page keeps attracting some unwanted attention for the last month or so. I see that you've protected the page once already. Would it be possible to do it again? Budsalone (talk) 12:23, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected for a period of 6 months, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. El_C 16:33, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Protection Saturday Night Live (season 49)

Looks like you put an extended autoconfirmed protection at Saturday Night Live (season 49) on the ground that it's related to the Arab-Israeli conflict because there was a minor edit war over whether to include the minor point that the role of Elise Stefanik in the Congressional hearing on Anti-semitism was originally given to Cecily Strong. I don't follow the logic.

The edit war had nothing to do with Anti-semitism per se, and absolutely nothing to do with the Arab-Israeli conflict. It should be noted that the article on the hearing in question is not protected at all. Please consider this a request to unprotect the article. Isabela ciao (talk) 17:06, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Isabela ciao, just because you fail to identify a connection does not make it absolutely this or that; nor am I interested in WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS whataboutism. That said, I'm not inherently opposed to unprotecting in a month or so, so feel free to remind me at that time. El_C 17:14, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Which Indonesia-related articles that are extended protected?

Are there any Indonesia related articles on Wikipedia that are extended-protected? JustYourImaginaryGuy (talk) 01:46, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure, JustYourImaginaryGuy. El_C 12:21, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

2023–24 Canadian network television schedule

Can I get a temporary protection for 2023–24 Canadian network television schedule like was done with 2023–24 United States network television schedule? As the vandalism by 81.25.78.185 is still continuing. Xeditboy (talk) 22:33, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, Xeditboy, I don't have time to review this at present, so please feel free direct your request to WP:RFPP/I. El_C 12:19, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Request for creation-unprotection for the 'Ashton irwin' article

Can you please unprotect the 'Ashton irwin' article (with a lowercase 'i') from creation so I can create a redirect for it to the 'Ashton Irwin' article (with an uppercase 'I')? PK2 (talk) 03:50, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Done. Downgraded to WP:ECP from WP:FULL. El_C 12:18, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Restore indefinite semi

Hi, El_C, greetings of the new year! Can you please restore indef-semi at Vikram Sampath? Thanks, TrangaBellam (talk) 12:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Done. And thanks, same to you. El_C 12:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

2024

Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy New Year

2024

Same location pictured as 2019. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, all the best for the coming year. El_C 15:15, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! - The 2023 picture is from the Abel Fest in Köthen, celebrating the tercentenary of Carl Friedrich Abel, a viol virtuoso, composer and concert organiser in London (together with Bach's youngest son), born on 22 December 1723 in Köthen, where the new catalogue of his works was introduced, - my story today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:45, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

New pics, those cows again - click Year and go to bottom. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:43, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

I have a DYK, but my story would be different, about Figaro, - this Figaro. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:04, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:28, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

story · music · places

I remember Ewa Podleś on the Main page, and the performance of Anna Nekhames, the article in which a reviewer found nothing interesting. Yesterday: Shalom chaverim. On vacation, - check places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Nicely done! Thanks for the updates. Hope you enjoy your vacation, and do I even need to say, take lot's of pics? El_C 20:48, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, enjoying, taking tons of pictured, 23 chosen for 23 Jan, 6 uploaded, too tired for more - on my talk you see that it's the birthday of Mozart and our conductor ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:57, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Today a friend's birthday, with related music and a few new vacation pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Could you please have a look into this?

Hi @El C

A user yesterday has made personal attacks against me aggressively, I brought the issue to the notice of administrators, one user happened to advice the user to strike out their personal comments on me, they still haven't done that. If possible, could you please look into this issue? -Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Aggressive attacks for starting a discussion on an article's talk page | Removal of template

Thank you :) Thewikizoomer (talk) 09:33, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Thewikizoomer, it looks like another admin is already attending to it, so I'm not sure what there is for me to do right now... El_C 09:40, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Ok @El C

I wasn't aware that another admin is attending it.

Thank you for your quick response :) Thewikizoomer (talk) 09:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Sure np, Thewikizoomer. Yeah, you replied to him 3 minutes before posting here. El_C 09:53, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Hey, long time no chat!

Hi El C! Do you know what's up with Jeremy Dewitte as of late? Outside of his arrest in 2022, I haven't heard anything... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:13, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Hey. No, no idea. Maybe he's finally staying outta trouble (unlikely). Good to see you, though. Don't be a stranger! El_C 17:08, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Follow up on disruptive LTA

A while back I made this post on ANI regarding a long term disruptive user-[5].

Unfortunately they're back at it again with their trolling and nonsense with two different ranges-this 93.36 range and this 93.32 range. Look at some of his most recent edits-[6] + [7] + [8]. I was hoping these two ranges could also be blocked for persistent vandalism. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:01, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi. I take it this was resolved at ANI...? El_C 17:08, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Hey, unfortunately the user is back again with a different range. I filed a report at ANI but if you could look into it that would be great-[9]. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 16:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Southasianhistorian8, sorry, what is the link? El_C 22:18, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

FYI

Hello, El C,

Regarding Indie soul, just a reminder that when you draftify an article from main space to Draft space, the remaining redirect needs to be deleted as a CSD R2. You can either delete it yourself or tag it for speedy deletion and an admin who patrols CSD categories can take care of it.

Thanks and have an awesome weekend! It's going to be frigid here in the Northwest U.S.. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:58, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot. But will do, thanks for the reminder. Hope you have a great weekend, too, Liz. Keep warm! El_C 03:04, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Block of ASmallMapleLeaf

I believe this is quite an inappropriate block since blocks are preventative and not punitive. With the specific incivility and personal attacks aside, I don't see a reason for why they would continue to be disruptive outside that specific instance. I would have agreed more if a temporary block was issued at that time instead. What do you think? 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 05:22, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Also, on the 7th edit crux you mentioned at their talk page, I think getting involved in administrative noticeboards while the account is new isn't an issue in and of itself. Well, they aren't new to our WP:P&Gs, but I don't see that as a reason to believe that they would cause further disruption. Though I don't see it as necessary, a namespace block from WP/WT instead of a full indef would have been less BITE-y. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 05:36, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

I disagree. I think that being as abrasive (as presented in the extensive evidence) by seemingly starting an aggressive anti-UNBLOCKABLES mission in one's 7th edit is what's inappropriate. And I continue to challenge that, absent an explanation, it is suspect. But feel free to take to the matter a wider forum. El_C 06:22, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

As well, I believe that your position—presenting this user in the same breath as both new (i.e. BITE-y) and an experienced user (i.e. aren't new to our WP:P&Gs)—is both inconsistent and sets a bad standard. About the conduct and direction from new-not-new users. El_C 06:30, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

A little bit inconsistent, I would agree, but knowing how to cite policies and guidelines doesn't mean they are not a new user. From the comments they have made it doesn't appear to me that they have the same style of argument experienced users make. Perhaps they picked up some of the experienced-isque elements from reading internal discussions and policy pages, but they still appear new to me. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 06:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

I've started a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrative action review#Block of ASmallMapleLeaf (hopefully that venue isn't dead) 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 06:43, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Copy that. El_C 06:56, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

They've now asked to be unblocked on their talk page. What are your thoughts on it? 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 03:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2024

This is your only warning; if you constructively do admin tasks again, like you did at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, you may be given a barnstar without further warning. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 14:46, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Oops!... I Did It Again. El_C 09:51, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Overhumility

People whose English is inelegant don't use the word "inelegant". ―Mandruss ☎ 22:46, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

We request the pleasure of your company for a free exchange of ideas. El_C 22:57, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Homer Simpson: one of history's great philosophers. ―Mandruss ☎ 23:00, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Re: Billboard Year-End Hot 100 singles of 1961

The two intermediate IP edits from 194.125.77.219 should probably be revdel'd as well, because they currently allow some of the problematic changes to be seen. - Sumanuil. _{(talk to me)} 05:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks Sumanuil. El_C 05:03, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Revert Reason

Hi, El_C,

Just wanted to clear it up, the reason I reverted here [10] was not because it wasn't an inline citation, it was because of WP:RSPSIMPLEFLYING where an RfC came to the consensus that SimpleFlying is not a reliable source and should not be used in articles. Just wanted to clear that up.

Thanks! VenFlyer98 (talk) 05:58, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

This was already settled by the time you've written the above, VenFlyer98. Can we move on? El_C 17:51, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

I wasn’t trying to start anything again, I was literally just explaining myself since you initially responded that the source was good and wanted to make sure my reasoning was understood. Was just explaining myself, I already moved on…

Have a good one. VenFlyer98 (talk) 19:11, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

You started by explaining to the IP how to cite inline, so I thought that meant you viewed their source as good. Otherwise why would you open with that and not with: 'sorry, it's a bad source, but if you have a good one, you do is this way'? So, yeah, I missed the second part, WP:RSPSIMPLEFLYING, which probably read like gibberish to me late last night. Coastie43's quoting it in full (with words), Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#SimpleFlying — that by contrast was immediately readable to me. Anyway, this entire conversation just seems so needless. But no biggie. See ya. El_C 20:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

January 2024

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. SwiftFan2024 (talk) 19:41, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

@SwiftFan2024: left a note there, though that report was already closed. But you could have asked me about it at any time, and I'd have explained why semi was chosen over pc (or any other protection level). Oh well. Well, now you know. El_C 04:33, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

February music

story · music · places

My calendar story today is about Michael Herrmann celebrating his birthday. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Today I am happy about a singer on the Main page (at least for the first hours), after TFA the same day last year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:24, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks to Seiji Ozawa. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I applaud your efforts. Another legend gone. R.I.P. El_C 21:43, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. - I put some effort now into the article for Ladislav Burlas, marked ready last day WP:ITNN. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:54, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Nice, yeah for sure. That page was already  Posted, though. TTYS. El_C 04:08, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for trying! - The image, taken on a cemetery last year after the funeral of a distant but dear family member, commemorates today, with thanks for their achievements, four subjects mentioned on the Main page and Vami_IV, a friend here. Listen to music by Tchaikovsky (an article where one of the four is pictured), sung by today's subject (whose performance on stage I enjoyed two days ago). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Listen to music from Ukraine if you like, - I heard it in 2022, and the November concert (at a different church) raised a truckload of winter clothes. My story today is also from my life: I heard the singer in 3 of the 4 mentioned musical items. I sang in yesterday's. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:32, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Will do, thanks for the recommend. I'm away for a bit, but hopefully will be back in a few weeks. Talk to you then. All the best, El_C 16:25, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

more music and flowers on Rossini's rare birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Turkey

Прошу снизить уровень защиты страницы. Making signs (talk) 17:53, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Deletion review for Ivan Katchanovski

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Ivan Katchanovski. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Alaexis_¿question? 13:11, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

You usually go straight to DRV without discussion, Alaexis? That's a thing that you do? El_C 18:21, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

This is the first deletion review I've initiated in a long time (possibly ever). I didn't notice the instructions which are under the 15-item list of cases in which DRV should and shouldn't be used. Will definitely do this next time. Cheers! Alaexis_¿question? 22:06, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

I see. Please note, though, that this is a general maxim (of WP:CLOSECHALLENGE) that goes beyond the realm of deletion discussions. And it's just common sense, because I could have made the arguments that the two participants have made in the DRV discussion (both endorse) right here, you could have responded, etc. But you never gave such discussion a chance. The reasoning is that I might have convinced you of my position, thus, you could have spared the extra work for the folks at DRV. HTH. El_C 22:14, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Spam-only accounts, cont'd

Hi El C, a couple of days ago you blocked two spammer accounts that I reported to ANI. Well today they are back again under a new name, 'Bharatbarsha'. Could you have a look at it? Thanks in advance! — AP 499D25 (talk) 13:42, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Blocked indefinitely. Lucky, you got me right as I'm out the door. TTYS. El_C 13:44, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#"<redacted>"

The edit summary of CapnJackSps latest 4 reverts might also need to be redacted. Nobody (talk) 06:16, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Damn, I thought I got em all. Done. Thank you! El_C 06:20, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Seven years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:18, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

About your comment on ANI

I saw your response on ANI. I probably should have clarified, but when I said about bringing your block of Bobak to XRV, I meant you yourself bringing it there if you were concerned it would be against consensus (Which as of now it is not). I am aware my suggestion could have come accross as 'anyone can/should bring it to XRV', which was not what I was attempting to state and definitely not attempting or encouraging others to do so.

I sincerely apologise. ASmallMapleLeaf (talk) 16:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Oh, I see. But no need to apologize, though I appreciate it. It's just a rather obscure venue that is used seldom and not many know about. Take care. El_C 16:36, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Also, in my pre-coffee state, I might have conflated you with A smart kitten, who was actively involved in that discussion (you were of course the user whose block was being reviewed there at the time) — shh, don't tell anyone! El_C 16:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Apology for reverting good faith edits

@El C You reverted my edits here a while ago, and I did not notice until now. I thought that IP was subtly vandalizing, but I have now just realized that I misread the sentence multiple times and did not realize that IP was trying to fix a grammatical error. I apologize for the foolish edits I made and am sorry for the inconvenience.

Thank you, ItsCheck (talk) 00:27, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Sure, ItsCheck, but please make sure you learn from this, by double and triple checking your edits, and by treating any given IP editor in good faith until proven otherwise. Because obviously changing "married with two children" into "married to two children" in a biography of a living person is a very serious violation. Thanks for reaching out. El_C 16:22, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Of course. I thought it was the other way around, so that is why I did it. ItsCheck (talk) 23:33, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

Conflict of interest management: Case opened

Hello El C,

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management/Evidence. Please add your evidence by March 20, 2024, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration.

For the Arbitration Committee,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:03, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Question

In regards to your response on my request for page protection how would you recommend I go about initiating a discussion with an IP user who's IP is different every time they edit? skarz (talk) 17:13, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

On the article talk page, which stays the same regardless. El_C 17:53, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

What I'm saying is doesn't it seem pointless to attempt to communicate with an individual who's sole purpose is to return to an account and revert my edit, each time from a different IP? Or perhaps it's a group of people since the IPs are in fact unique? skarz (talk) 18:29, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

I don't know about any of that (not mentioned at the protection request), but what I do know is that the article talk page has not been meaningfully used by anyone since 2016. HTH. El_C 18:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Being Fired Upon Over Contributions

Hi

I could really use your input at ANI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents "Editor Lau737 "contributions."

Best regards Lau737 (talk) 11:27, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

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Destiny

See also: User:El C/Songs from new lands, User:El C/Songs from the homeland

A blast from the past! (circa 2002). El_C 08:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Longing for Home (circa 2008). El_C 11:34, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

For when just plain Distractions are afoot. El_C 16:54, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Spinning over simple things. El_C 08:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Oceanic feeling

Everyone is Everyone (and Everything is Everything). El_C 23:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Lyrics:

(Intro) Somehow I found myself here today Awakened to these thoughts and feelings Or an oceanic sense of lucid dreaming? A strange sort of spherical sensation With an overwhelming sense of apprehension An emptiness that thunders out From beyond the mind's horizon So far beyond our reach Where consciousness coalesces Like the billowing loom of thunder clouds The streaming runs of thought goes 'Round and 'round and 'round Till the dancing funnels of wind touch down And the earth bows down in reverence Lest it should be torn to pieces And blown into oblivi-essence And all who live will run and hide And do what we’ve done since the dawn of time Everyone flees from the cyclone winds of One's own mind But if one day we should stand on the canyon’s edge Peer out through the beating rain, the pounding wind You'll find that everyone is everyone And everything is everything (Verse one) Open up Your hearts and minds 'Cause I remember Nothing One day now It all falls down But love must keep on Loving So start the show Here we go (Chorus) Dark to light The day from night A roll of a mountain A rip in the sky Turning the dust to flesh And ashes to breath A pull of a muscle A pin in the eye An initial spark To get this heart of mine pumping And another To get these feet of mine running But sadly they've just taken me To a place Where all is devoid Of your embrace So baby now we're falling Baby now you're falling Baby yeah, yeah Baby now we're falling, baby yeah Tripping and tumbling Flipping and fumbling Flowing on the rivers of sadness That have been forever rumbling But from dawn until now Of all the paths that I could have gone down Of all the valleys That I could have been flowing through In spite of all the chaos And all that has come between us How is it I still find myself Here with you (Outro) So somehow we find ourselves here today A feeling in this oceanic sense of lucid dreaming A strange sort of spherical sensation An emptiness that thunders out From beyond the mind's horizon And all of us, we run and hide Do what we've done since the dawn of time Peering out through the beating rain The pounding wind Everyone is everyone And everything is everything

Serrado. El_C 23:33, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Live with Me. El_C 23:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

River Man. El_C 00:05, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Memories of Spain

Tomatito & Michel Camilo (2000)

Hooni (2012)

Olivier Castellat (2010)

Stevie Wonder (2008 live)

Gary Valenciano (2017 vocals)

Chick Corea and Return to Forever (1973 original) / Live performance (date unknown, but laterer)

El_C 23:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Chick and Hiromi my 2p. regards. -Roxy the sycamore. wooF 16:20, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Resting: a compilation

Flite — El_C 10:06, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Void — El_C 15:01, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

What Is This — El_C 18:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

WhipTail — El_C 10:53, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Tell Me Where — El_C 10:03, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Nothing Nice — El_C 22:25, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Posição — El_C 10:05, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Quiet Nights — El_C 10:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Feel Free — El_C 02:02, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Dear Limmertz (Hello, guitar! Hello, Good Waves) — El_C 10:11, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Que Se Sepa — El_C 10:14, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Mina Do Condominio — El_C 10:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

On Sight — El_C 10:06, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

The return of Remix surfing

Be Honest — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Wade in the Water — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Summertime Ride — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

This Thing — El_C 22:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Barrio — El_C 16:51, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Maybe I'll be Tracer... — El_C 16:42, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

O Mary Don't You Weep — El_C 11:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Love Intersection — El_C 18:52, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Inside — El_C 05:46, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Cosmix — El_C 15:42, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Let Me In — El_C 15:11, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Find You — El_C 13:23, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Bossa 31 — El_C 16:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Recado Bossa Nova — El_C 13:01, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Just The Two Of Us — El_C 00:56, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Unless You Love Me — El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

A New Born Day — El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Inspiration Zone El_C 11:33, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Elektric City — El_C 13:50, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Kiss from a Rose — El_C 06:22, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Golden — El_C 09:13, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Mozalounge — El_C 20:47, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorrow — El_C 13:57, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Be With You — El_C 14:06, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Everybody Knows — El_C 10:42, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Butterfly — El_C 01:14, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Guilty Pleasure — El_C 09:13, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Blue Bossa — El_C 15:27, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Legend — El_C 18:40, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Who — El_C 05:41, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Losing My Way ^{London (2019)} — El_C 15:05, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Love Forever — El_C 16:20, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Brother to Brother — El_C 01:48, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

'Round Midnight — El_C 06:03, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Close Your Eyes — El_C 18:13, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Shut Up 'n Play Yer Guitar

Whipping Post→Mountain Jam — El_C 23:02, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Into the Sun — El_C 14:36, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

April — El_C 14:50, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Desire And The Comforter — El_C 04:32, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Fire on the Mountain — El_C 12:51, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

A Go Go — El_C 14:33, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Broken Promised Land — El_C 15:18, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Mediterranean Sundance / Rio Ancho — El_C 18:56, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Eternity's Breath, Pt. 1, Pt. 2 — El_C 21:37, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Say the Brother's Name — El_C 22:16, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Drifting — El_C 22:46, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

The Epic — El_C 05:19, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Little Wing — El_C 13:14, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Bold As Love — El_C 13:32, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Moonlight Sonata (3rd Movement), Tina S ^{Dr.Viossy — El_C 16:44, 28 July 2021 (UTC)}

Reba, Brother, Glide, Rift — El_C 22:08, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

How Insensitive (Wes Montgomery), Pat Martino, Grant Green — El_C 02:35, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

White Rabbit — El_C 13:00, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Telegraph Road — El_C 21:47, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Yours Is the Light — El_C 23:59, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Burning Bridges → Mudmen — El_C 13:42, 30 July 2021 (UTC)

16/16 — El_C 03:25, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Achilles Last Stand — El_C 12:07, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

La Grange — El_C 03:05, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

White Room — El_C 00:26, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Tupelo (Albert King, Pops Staples, Steve Cropper), JLH — El_C 00:49, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Mr. Soul — El_C 03:06, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

My Inspiration — El_C 12:51, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Our Spanish Love Song — El_C 20:36, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Change of Life — El_C 02:07, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Reunion — El_C 12:59, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Montevideo — El_C 02:01, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Recado Bossa Nova — El_C 02:20, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Treacherous Cretins (studio), Copenhagen (1979) — El_C 12:08, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Arabia→Hasta Siempre, Comandante→Arabia — El_C 20:59, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Dark Star — El_C 16:42, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Tangled Up in Blue — El_C 02:27, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Face to Face (masks save lives) — El_C 13:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Blue Bossa — El_C 22:26, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Under the Milky Way — El_C 12:51, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Wish You Were Here (studio), Pulse — El_C 02:30, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Albert's Shuffle, His Holy Modal Majesty — El_C 14:09, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

Cārukeśī, Sunset Road (studio) / Sunset Road (Live Art) — El_C 09:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Gimme Shelter — El_C 17:02, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

The Great Gig in the Sky (Pulse) — El_C 20:09, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Eyes of The World — El_C 03:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Morning Dew — El_C 14:26, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Blue Sky → Kind of Bird — El_C 18:23, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm Troubled → Been All Around This World — El_C 14:52, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

While My Guitar Gently Weeps (JHB) — El_C 14:24, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

La Sirena — El_C 12:01, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

The Landlady — El_C 12:58, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Dope-A-Licious — El_C 00:09, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Air

Unveiled — El_C 15:36, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Portia — El_C 23:55, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

El Niño — El_C 00:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Jungle Strut — El_C 09:06, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Dialogos → San Lazaro — El_C 16:42, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Love Has Come Around — El_C 13:07, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

In a Sentimental Mood — El_C 14:20, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Blue Rondo à la Turk — El_C 22:06, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

La Fiesta — El_C 10:54, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes, It Has No Chance (etc.) — El_C 12:47, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Mr. Skin — El_C 13:13, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Manhã de Carnaval — El_C 21:22, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Dawn: Dawn Is A Feeling — El_C 11:22, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

In My Own Way — El_C 19:24, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Caged Bird — El_C 10:36, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Around the Bend — El_C 15:56, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

House of the Rising Sun — El_C 00:25, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Prism #1 — El_C 11:41, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Water

Deep down → Secret Blue — El_C 18:19, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Familiar — El_C 05:54, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Feel It All Around — El_C 11:28, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

What If This Storm Ends? — El_C 18:34, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Promise — El_C 23:27, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Breathless — El_C 09:56, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Waves — El_C 17:45, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Power of Love → Vision is a Naked Sword — El_C 00:04, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Running Away — El_C 11:45, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

On a Clear Day (You Can See Forever) — El_C 23:37, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Jack-A-Roe — El_C 11:16, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Fall songspam

All Along the Watchtower — El_C 04:10, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Oh My God! — El_C 00:25, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Poetry — El_C 12:05, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Paroles, paroles ("Words, words") — El_C 02:02, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Ebatule — El_C 14:25, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Europa (Earth's Cry Heaven's Smile) — El_C 00:34, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Booty Step — El_C 11:17, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

Gymnopédie No. 1 → Arabesque No. 1 — El_C 10:31, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Raat Ne Main Baandhi Chhe — El_C 15:34, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Reza, Meu Bem — El_C 23:13, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Because — El_C 12:30, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Noite Longa — El_C 18:03, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Voce Me Apereceu — El_C 05:27, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Lodger → It Starts When We Disappear — El_C 15:50, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

One More Day — El_C 00:17, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Sing Song Kitty → Bonaparte's Retreat — El_C 11:33, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Girls Love Kehlani → Table El_C 01:46, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Kkwy — El_C 01:11, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Convoy — El_C 15:43, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Black Water (studio) → Live (1974) — El_C 08:53, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Summertime → The House of the Rising Sun — El_C 13:40, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Bossa Esfera — El_C 13:06, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Down Man — El_C 13:36, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

The High Road — El_C 02:42, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Found You — El_C 14:16, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Quero ver — El_C 01:22, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Raag Gawati (Dhan Dhan Bhag Hamare) — El_C 17:11, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

I Adore You — El_C 13:55, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Angola Anthem — El_C 18:40, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Dopesnotfunkae — El_C 21:26, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Descarga for Tito — El_C 18:28, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Positive Notions — El_C 02:10, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

One — El_C 14:06, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Secret Sun — El_C 21:58, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Back Where It All Begins — El_C 14:08, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Riflessività — El_C 03:25, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Title 1 → 2 → 3 → 4 — El_C 16:39, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Tudo Que Você Podia Ser — El_C 13:54, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Necessary Discrepancy — El_C 13:21, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Way Star — El_C 09:09, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Lament — El_C 15:09, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Lovely Day — El_C 14:00, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Alter Ego — El_C 11:48, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

עמוד האש — El_C 13:24, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Won't Pray Adagio → Angel's Serenade — El_C 20:25, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

The Distance — El_C 18:10, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Toxic — El_C 12:58, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

I'm the Man Who Loves You → Poor Places — El_C 07:09, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Money Trees (original) → Sembari Edit → DJ Dahi & DJ Rahki: Sample masters — El_C 20:19, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Creation & Destruction — El_C 14:50, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Fuck the System — El_C 22:56, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Esperar Pra Ver — El_C 10:13, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

New Coat Of Paint — El_C 12:04, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

The Ecstasy of Gold — El_C 13:25, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

One Way — El_C 13:52, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

A Little Less Conversation — El_C 15:16, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Power in the Darkness — El_C 18:01, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

תמונה → Guitar — El_C 15:12, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Smokestack Lightning — El_C 11:42, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Ann River, Mn → Bibio Remix — El_C 10:43, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Mirror Temple — El_C 01:37, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Zoiks — El_C 15:24, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Tuyo — El_C 14:56, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Exogenesis: Symphony Pt. 1 (Overture) — El_C 13:54, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Lotus Land → A Lotus On Irish Streams — El_C 12:02, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

Romance del Diablo — El_C 13:23, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Enemy → (Worlds 2021 version → Radio edit → Orchestral/instrumental) → Guns for Hire → Goodbye — El_C 10:39, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Floral Fury — El_C 18:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Waking Up → VIP Extended Mix — El_C 10:00, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Solução Edit — El_C 13:30, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

אפילו דקה → Trem das Onze — El_C 14:13, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Knives Out — El_C 16:23, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Child in Time — El_C 01:16, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Free Bird (extended studio) — El_C 12:09, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Nobody Speak → Nobody Move — El_C 11:53, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Be Alright (Live at One Love Manchester) — El_C 11:39, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Victory Theme (SHADOWFOX2 Remix) → Funk Fiction Remix — El_C 14:15, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Everywhere at the End of Time (Nexpo 4-min summary) → Full album (6.5 hours) — El_C 02:14, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Intimidated — El_C 15:00, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Seoul — El_C 11:24, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Fiona — El_C 14:52, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Sun — El_C 14:18, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Parole parole — El_C 15:10, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Breathe (2 AM) (Live) — El_C 13:11, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Dodole — El_C 16:57, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

Sacred Moment → Ammonia Clouds — El_C 11:56, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Enemy (guitar heavy) — El_C 11:17, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Every Day Is Exactly the Same (Acoustic cover) → Sam Fog vs. Carlos D Mix — El_C 12:00, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

After You — El_C 16:06, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Estate — El_C 11:07, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Prelude → Victory Fanfare (Evil Needle X OriJanus Remix) — El_C 13:51, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Winter Nights

Winter Nights (full album): Greensleeves → Inverno — El_C 05:05, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Ready To Fly — El_C 13:42, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Sunny (Papik w Wendy Lewis) → Francesco Cofano Remix → w Peter De Girolamo (instrumental) → Bobby Hebb original — El_C 10:24, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Crazy — El_C 05:13, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Crazy — El_C 20:26, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

The Hanukkah Waltz →Christmas Oratorio (BVW 248 #41, Aria (tenor)) — El_C 14:15, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Since I've Been Loving You — El_C 21:49, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Lupin — El_C 02:01, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Une Sulased → Kiik Tahab Kindaid — El_C 18:47, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

The Star Spangled Banner — El_C 00:40, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Wonderland — El_C 10:48, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Souffles H (Souffle Your Wig) — El_C 17:35, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

2 Hearts Together (Absolute Contrast) — El_C 10:20, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Este Amor — El_C 17:47, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Samba De Luar — El_C 11:53, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Can't Hide Love — El_C 03:19, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Nice & Slow — El_C 12:32, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Living For The Night — El_C 13:05, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

In The Morning — El_C 06:45, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Nos Vida — El_C 20:21, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

One Dream — El_C 12:04, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Secret of the Forest (Flite) → Jordan Chin → Contraband Reloaded → Kara Comparetto — El_C 07:06, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Grand Central Boogie — El_C 22:04, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

No Mercy → Instrumental — El_C 01:20, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Delight → Slow Down El_C 05:24, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Head Over Heels → Sowing the Seeds Of Love — El_C 13:44, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Surrender — El_C 10:32, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

No Stress →Get Down → Human Nature → Dreamy → Flowers — El_C 11:40, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

The Well-Tempered Clavier, Prelude 1 in C Major (BWV 846) — El_C 10:18, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Concerto No. 2 in F Minor, Op. 21: I. Maestoso — El_C 23:10, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

I Put A Spell On You — El_C 09:47, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

High Tide — El_C 02:00, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

פרדי על הבוקר — El_C 07:41, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Decisions (AM Intro) → You Could Be (ft. George Riley) → Quest Select (AM Outro) — El_C 15:32, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Slavery Days → I And I Survive — El_C 12:29, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Dare — El_C 16:19, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Kiss from a Rose (Heidi Jutras) → Joe McBride → Trinití → David Simmons, Jr. — El_C 16:00, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Kiss from a Rose (studio version) → Rick explains (feat. Seal) — El_C 13:18, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Crazy — El_C 15:05, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Deepstar — El_C 11:20, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

All By Myself (Glee) → w David Foster — El_C 15:29, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Infralow — El_C 13:42, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Jericho — El_C 12:11, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

I Guess You Get What's Coming — El_C 18:10, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed (acoustic, live 1992) → Studio version → Fillmore East, 1971 — El_C 15:58, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Open Up → Open Up (Reimagined) — El_C 00:03, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Keep Me In Mind — El_C 11:47, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Yellow Moon (w John Hiatt & Herbie Hancock) — El_C 01:01, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

True Faith — El_C 16:00, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

בא אלייך בלילה El_C 14:41, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

The Theme That Got Left in the Car — El_C 10:38, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Lotus Feet → India — El_C 10:07, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Revival — El_C 00:31, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Unfuckwitable — El_C 09:57, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Breathing — El_C 11:27, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Prune Gang Revival Tour → Darkseid / FULL (Soundcloud) — El_C 05:18, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Gleam → Glim → Mystic — El_C 13:18, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Bullets — El_C 10:38, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Them Changes — El_C 19:09, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Thoughts — El_C 15:29, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Eyesdown → U Just R — El_C 03:27, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

A New Life — El_C 21:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Press Garden Zone — El_C 15:34, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Fish — El_C 17:15, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

I'll Find My Way — El_C 07:01, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Lean On — El_C 10:01, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Weird Bed — El_C 03:39, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Hope Springs E

Morning Dew — El_C 00:09, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Delight Earth — El_C 10:36, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Funk No.1 — El_C 12:53, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Children Of The World — El_C 05:42, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Sometimes I Feel Like a Motherless Child — El_C 22:02, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Lay Down — El_C 14:09, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Colorless — El_C 16:13, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Viva L'amore — El_C 02:58, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Riviera Paradise El_C 10:53, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Plexus — El_C 13:12, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Virtual Insanity (Wilson remix) — El_C 12:30, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Time Paradox (Choma41 final mix) — El_C 01:00, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Love and Happiness — El_C 16:58, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

& — El_C 10:35, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Shake Down — El_C 10:50, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Fingerflowing — El_C 11:14, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

The Cat Came Back — El_C 10:18, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

In the Morning of the Magicians — El_C 22:31, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Mellow → Voyage — El_C 11:58, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

The Search for Optimism — El_C 13:02, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

On The Move — El_C 15:39, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Transmissionnn → Txt (MSGS) — El_C 10:41, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Phenomenal → To Forgive (Letting Go Is Hard) — El_C 18:07, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Gypsy Woman — El_C 22:02, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Guardian Angel — El_C 13:56, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Looking for the Sun → Cheers! — El_C 15:46, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

לך תזדיין (Go Fuck Yourself) — El_C 11:37, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Heartbreak In Paradise — El_C 12:29, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Jessica — El_C 22:44, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

You Enjoy Myself — El_C 12:37, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Stash — El_C 15:37, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Nsu Na Kwan (Water and Stone) — El_C 21:49, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

The Magic — El_C 12:29, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Twilight Voyage — El_C 18:15, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Dear And Soul — El_C 13:41, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Far Away → L'Uomo Invisible (The Invisible Man) — El_C 12:53, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Wolf Totem — El_C 14:08, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Jell-O — El_C 12:54, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

My Name Is James (Soundcloud) — El_C 12:52, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Time solo → Another Brick In The Wall solo → Comfortably Numb solo — El_C 14:44, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

And the livin' is EZ

Comfortably Numb (Sophie Lloyd) → Shorts shorts (shorts) ←Shut up, me! — El_C 00:57, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

First Day Of Summer — El_C 13:12, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Brazilian Summer — El_C 19:17, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Valse triste (Sad Waltz), Op. 44 — El_C 17:06, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

No Turning Back — El_C 14:01, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Come Together — El_C 17:52, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Miles Away — El_C 23:37, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Tuesday — El_C 14:32, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Can't Hide Love — El_C 14:29, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Noche de San Juan → Pra Joao → Yoruba → Semblanza de un Gigante — El_C 14:38, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Children Say → La Mer → Sound Of Blue → People Have A Right Of Pursuing Happiness — El_C 14:23, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Ready To Freak → When Are You Gonna Tell Your Woman (About Me)? / Sign of the Times — El_C 16:11, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

El Mechánico — El_C 11:53, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Anomalous Hedges — El_C 14:28, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

The Runaway (Icon West Remix) — El_C 16:53, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Where Did The Time Go? → Time's Blur — El_C 17:15, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Turn On Your Love Light — El_C 19:30, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Going Home — El_C 01:31, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Severance (title sequence) — El_C 19:14, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Diz pra Mim (Tell Me) — El_C 15:35, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Reminisce — El_C 17:03, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

怨恨白昼夢 — El_C 03:19, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Falleaves

Autumn — El_C 02:40, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Let's Get Blown — El_C 16:43, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Rest → Reset — El_C 22:04, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Trip to the Stix — El_C 16:43, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Blunt — El_C 18:06, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

It Will Work Out — El_C 10:55, 12 October 2022 (UTC)

Festa Cante — El_C 01:56, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Into the Fire → Into the Fire (Combat) — El_C 15:34, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Just a Feeling — El_C 16:06, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

Fallin' (Francesco Cofano Remix) — El_C 05:55, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

It's Not My Cross To Bear — El_C 16:23, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

A Man and a Woman (Extended Mix) — El_C 00:09, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Name Your Price — El_C 19:56, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

The Water's Fine! — El_C 23:07, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Midnight Rider — El_C 07:27, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

One Thing Leads to Another (Extended Version) — El_C 07:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Tabula Rasa — El_C 16:42, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

paradise — El_C 15:39, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

History — El_C 04:04, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

bossa uh → i'll be okay — El_C 17:54, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Chrono Suite — El_C 09:24, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Intelligent Design — El_C 03:57, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodleloo — El_C 00:33, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Brasil — El_C 19:32, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Flowers — El_C 01:28, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Local Forecast → +tempo — El_C 00:00, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Into the Ether — El_C 07:34, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Mirrors — El_C 06:36, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Rise — El_C 18:45, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Hopeless Romantic — El_C 17:46, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Dream On (Morgan James) — El_C 15:21, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

FTW — El_C 17:18, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Dreamin — El_C 14:32, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Pleasure — El_C 05:47, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

A Hazy Shade of Winter

Hazy Shade of Winter (Radio Edit) — El_C 22:21, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Golden Hour — El_C 21:57, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Money, Money, Money (Joel Dickinson Remix Radio Edit) — El_C 03:31, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Rites Of Passage — El_C 18:45, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Pumped (Pumping the House All Night Long Extend-o-mix) — El_C 11:38, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

I Remember — El_C 10:00, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Babydoll — El_C 08:04, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Spring springs

Brucia La Terra — El_C 01:26, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

It Was a Very Good Year — El_C 22:22, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Chess — El_C 04:49, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

CSGO Theme (Official) → (VMU Chamber Orchestra) → (Johnny Hua) — El_C 07:25, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Light Velocity — El_C 06:49, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Apho (feat. Bongeziwe Mabandla) ← Variables → BC — El_C 09:24, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Lady (Hear Me Tonight) — El_C 10:17, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Sonic Boom — El_C 13:37, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Rolling Star (Yuri's Mixx) — El_C 06:55, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Above the Clouds — El_C 14:18, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Set Me Free — El_C 14:19, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Twenty Twenty Four

Bright Purity — El_C 15:24, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

My Star — El_C 21:21, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Xiaoyu Stage → Xiaoyu Carnival (Quick Mix) — El_C 18:36, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Balatro — El_C 06:24, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

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Chris Hedges: "The Meaning of Christmas" (December 27, 2020). El_C 23:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Ordinary Things: "The Evil Business of 2021" (December 31, 2021). El_C 14:21, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Ordinary Things: "The Bankrupt Business of 2022" (December 31, 2022). El_C 01:32, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

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Sorry, everyone, with very few exceptions, I will not be accepting any new requests for administrative intervention on my talk page for the foreseeable future. In the meantime, enjoy the music! El_C 18:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Now also introducing Buck Flower, security guard (challenging times ahead!). El_C 12:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

So much good music! River Man in particular is always a favourite of mine. Jr8825 • Talk 19:02, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

//bows El_C 12:39, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

March flowers

story · music · places

in memory of the birthday of a friend who showed me art such as this --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:18, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

... and the premiere of Nabucco - I always wanted to go to that theatre where Idomeneo premiered, and they played Mozart! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Booksellers let's go! El_C 18:24, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Especially booksellers who give a peace prize. I was there when Amoz Oz reveived it. - Rossini's Petite messe solennelle was premiered on 14 March 1864, - when I listen to the desolate Agnus Dei I think of Vami_IV. Dona nobis pacem - give us peace. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

♬♫♪♩ Very nice. That rendition of the Little solemn Mass really took me places. ♩♪♫♬ El_C 05:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

love to hear that! - vacation pics uploaded (back home), at least the first day, - and Aribert Reimann remembered. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Some days later, a calf in the mist (for you to pet) and chocolate cake, and a story of collaboration --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

How to request recusals

El C one day I'd like to better understand what caused your loss of trust in Arbcom because that has been apparent to me for quite some time. For now though I thought I would point you to where the policy for how to request recusals lives. Barkeep49 (talk) 10:29, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Liberland

Could you reduce the protection level on this page? The problem-causing user has been indeffed and I’d like to be able to edit the article. Dronebogus (talk) 01:40, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Before making substantive edits, I'd recommend taking a good look at the talk page discussions, including those concerning a proposed new draft. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:26, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

In any case, the protection has now expired. El_C 20:47, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

Arbcom appeal for SwissArmyGuy

Just like I did this before, but I have to appeal SwissArmyGuy (talk · contribs) for wrongdoing, instead of email at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1034#User:SwissArmyGuy keeps asking for my social media accounts and refuses to tell me why. But I opted Kingerikthesecond for asking their social media accounts, but it is cogent and coherent answers to a number of questions. Recently but I have to do something right, and please let me appeal as a clean start. 95.73.84.105 (talk) 16:43, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Do not mention me or talk to me ever again. I want nothing to do with you. --KingErikII (Talk page) 16:45, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) SwissArmyGuy, El C's block was taken over by the Arbitration Committee. You need to email them if you want to appeal; it cannot be made onwiki or towards El C. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 16:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Not even the ArbCom can do this as the account is globally locked; they will need to appeal to [email protected]. Black Kite (talk) 09:18, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Notification of arbitration enforcement sanction

There is an arbitration enforcement discussion at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Interstellarity concerning you. If you wish to comment, you may comment there. Interstellarity (talk) 12:48, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Not just black and white!

Thanks for defending my yellowness there  :) "They call him Mellow Yellow"... ——Serial Number 54129 18:17, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

There can only be one. Don't Eat the Yellow Snow! El_C 18:19, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

My Declined Requests At RFPP

You declined 4/5 of my RFPP requests? Why? You said "Pages are not protected preemptively" but GS/RUSUKR says "If a page (other than a "Talk:" page) mostly or entirely relates to the topic area, broadly construed, this restriction is preferably enforced through extended confirmed protection," and "Only extended-confirmed editors may make edits related to the topic area".@El C Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 00:12, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

@Me Da Wikipedian: per WP:PREEMPTIVE, there needs to be recent issues before protecting. The last edit in one of the pages you nominated was 9 months ago, so that is quite Stale. El_C 00:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Would this qualify? @El C Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 00:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

How about this@El C Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 00:43, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

@Me Da Wikipedian: those would not. We're looking for days or a couple of weeks at most. For the most part, anything that's in the weeks or months would not qualify. El_C 00:52, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

If added 3 more requests do those work @El C Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 20:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Help needed

Hello El C, having some problems here. I wanted to remedy my mistake (missing }}, but apparantly there is the new link to about.com which I never made. Would you be so kind as to take a closer look ? Thank you ever so much. Cheers Lotje (talk) 12:33, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi. Not sure, not seeing any relevant new filters or new additions to the blacklist (local or global). Maybe ask at WP:VPT or WP:EFN. Should have some more tech-inclined folks than myself who can shed light on this. HTH. El_C 17:58, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Rationale for extending extended-confirmed protection to the entire World Central Kitchen article?

Hi. I'm not very familiar with the custom of topic-based page protections. The policy states "all pages broadly related to a topic, as well as parts of other pages that are related to the topic". The page was already partially protected in regards to any information regarding the incident in Gaza, and there has been no vandalism.

Is this the norm of topic-based protections? E.g. it is not banned to edit the article Legality of conversion therapy because of the "gender-related contentious topics; or the biography of Wang Zhi'an merely because it contains information about him criticising Falun Gong. I was about to add some information regarding past World Central Kitchen responses to natural disasters. Y. Dongchen (talk) 01:53, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello. First, protection that is WP:PREEMPTIVE is against the norms (not sure if that's clear to you). As for this arbitration-enforcement sanction regime (the WP:PIA topic area) its WP:ECR requirement is split into two types of affected pages: "primary articles," which represent a permanent and close connection to the topic area, and "related content", whose connection is temporary and/or lesser. But as for the examples you pointed to above, neither WP:ARBFLG nor WP:ARBGS feature the ECR requirement. Still, in a broader sense, if a dispute pertaining to any applicable topic area becomes acute on any page, that sanction regime could be invoked (and regardless if it's a community-authorized or Arbitration Committee-authorized one). HTH. El_C 02:54, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. So as I understand it from the WP:PIA page, you applied ECR as you deem World Central Kitchen to be a "primary article" under that regime? I would appreciate a confirmation. Thanks again for the explanation. Y. Dongchen (talk) 03:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

No, it's not primary, it's related, because that organization is active elsewhere in the world, like Ukraine. If it was only focused on its Gaza mission, then it would be deemed primary. El_C 03:36, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Ah okay. Then can you please remove the current form of protection which is applied to the entire page? The WP:PIA "area of conflict" is defined as

4) For the purposes of editing restrictions in the ARBPIA topic area, the "area of conflict" shall be defined as encompassing

a. the entire set of articles whose topic relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly interpreted ("primary articles"), and

b. edits relating to the Arab-Israeli conflict, to pages and discussions in all namespaces with the exception of userspace ("related content")

if I understand it correctly. Y. Dongchen (talk) 04:02, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't follow. You don't provide a reasoning as to why I should "remove the current form of protection which is applied to the entire page," you just quote from that case. To what end? So, no, I don't think you understand it correctly, but I'm not sure if I can explain it better. El_C 04:14, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

According to the "ARBPIA general sanctions" – Extended confirmed restriction: The extended confirmed restriction is imposed on the area of conflict.

Since you mentioned your rationale for the imposition of protection was that you deemed the article to contain related content, the general sanctions would not cover the imposition of whole-page protection. The related content was already explicitly protected as per the article talkpage. I am not an extended-confirmed user and I want to add information about past responses of WCK to natural disasters. Y. Dongchen (talk) 04:22, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

The only difference between primary and related is that WP:ECP isn't applied indefinitely for the latter. Because in the future that org may be in the news and experience active editing disputes about, say, Haiti, which is not currently deemed a contentious topic. But a page can only be protected in its entirety. I don't have discretion about the protection level itself. If you think you have a convincing case, you could request to get your WP:XC status expedited at WP:PERM#Extended confirmed, though. El_C 04:45, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

The "area of conflict" concept was introduced in WP:ARBPIA4 following confusion about Airbnb which included controversies regarding operation in West Bank settlements. So even though the article still contains the company's settlements controversy, the protection is not extended to the whole article. I might ask for a third opinion on this. Y. Dongchen (talk) 05:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Again, I'm not sure I follow. It's a standard action. But sure, maybe someone else can explain it better than I. The latest disputes at World Central Kitchen are related to the recent World Central Kitchen drone strikes (which I also protected, as it happens). Both actions have been logged at WP:AELOG/2024#PIA. HTH. El_C 05:25, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Protection of any article related to the topic area, broadly construed, is permitted by the protection policy and the contentious topic procedures. In my experience, it is common practice to only temporarily protect pages which are only partially related. El C's protection was aligned with policy and practice. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 12:26, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Gavin Menzies

I got an email explaining it was a student project. ". Students were told explicitly not to vandalize articles, although we do not have the class time for students to learn what constitutes a good Wikipedia edit before they complete the assignment. I hope the disruption caused by the assignment was minimal—at the very least, it should inspire a future generation of Wikipedia editors." Doug Weller talk 13:18, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Doug, that's interesting and a bit unexpected, but I should emphasize that I approached this from a wider lense. As in the long term issues the page has experienced intermittently, resulting in multiple protections from 2010 to the present day. Usually, these protections have been in the months, but the last two were for one year each (2017-2018 and 2019-2020, respectively), so I went for 2 years this time. But next time that page experiences major problems, whatever that reason may be, I think that the protection should be set not to expire. Best, El_C 01:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

TFA

Forward gaze?

story · music · places

I like to see Appalachian Spring on the Main page today (not by me, just interested and reviewed), and I also made it my story. - How do you like the statue (look up places)? - I was undecided so show three versions ;) - Did you "pet" the calf (see March)? Did I tell you that the psalms are now done in Hebrew, even with translations into English?? Thanks to someone tireless. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

The statue is of Hildegard of Bingen, and as it happens, her Physica is on the Main page today, and Marian Anderson as my top story (by NBC, 1939), and below (on my talk) three people with raised arms, - and the place is the cherry blossom in Frauenstein --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:56, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Ballet in and of Appalachia — now I (haven't) seen it all! El_C 14:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

My story today is about a piece composed for the Second Sunday after Easter 300 years ago, about a shepherd, and then I saw plenty of sheep from the bike, and I just returned from a (long) opera about the same age, with soprano Pretty Yende. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:07, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

O' Euroland, where one could ride their to the opera (which is to say, at all). El_C 07:01, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

relief: the last of six RD articles in one week is now on the Main page - yesterday a great recital with many anti-war songs by Jewish composers whose music banned by the Nazis. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

images of a flock of sheep - some to pet - that I met by chance on the 300th birthday of cantata Du Hirte Israel, höre, BWV 104 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:40, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

today a sad task - memory of Andrew Davis - turned into entertainment (yt at the bottom of his article, actually both) -- the latest pictures capture extreme weather --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

The juveniles' eyes — okay. But the adult one — how is that forward facing? 🐑 El_C 12:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

please help: when did I say "forward facing"? (my memory ...) - today you can look at the last three stories or "music" on my talk: the same topics, Youth Symphony Orchestra of Ukraine, Samuel Kummer and (pictured) one row of 8 double basses and another of 5 bassists ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

It was a rhetorical question to the sky! RIP Daniel Kern Manufacture d'Orgues. El_C 20:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thanks for being so positive and active on the wiki, may you continue finding it rewarding and something you enjoy :3

— ♠ Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum. ♠ 22:10, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Ixtal, that's very kind of you. El_C 14:14, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Order of the Arrow

Would like a reference for "previously known as" - that change has not been made. I would be happy to help maintain this page. dugbrown 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, what is the question? Are you unable to edit Order of the Arrow, but would like to do so? Is that the issue? El_C 12:47, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes or would at least like a reference for the "Previously Known As" statement. @El C Doug (talk) 13:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure what is meant by that (it's been many years since that article has even crossed my mind), but you should be good to go now. El_C 14:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

User:Shoot for the Stars

FYI, on being unblocked this user has immediately re-created Elliott Rodger, which was redirected a significant time ago and was the subject of a number of discussions. Black Kite (talk) 07:27, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Belatedly: the page/redirect you linked to above has not been edited by anyone in years, so you lost me. El_C 11:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Romania

You semi'd the page indefinitely, but you appear to have forgotten to reset the pending changes. With indef semi now in place, this obviously is not needed anymore. Lynch44 (talk) 00:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Got it. El_C 11:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Notification of ArbCom enforcement appeal

This is to inform you I appealed the topic ban you originally imposed in April 2022. The discussion can be found at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Anonimu. Anonimu (talk) 17:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Your appeal is incomplete because it only links to a previously failed appeal, but not to anything I did (the original enforcement action). El_C 17:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Reverting the edit of Maratha Empire article

Hi, it appears that you recently reverted the article on the Maratha Empire to a previous version. However, the prior version indicated a date of 1758, not 1760. Additionally, other articles about historical empires include maps from when they were at their peak, so the map from 1758 would be accurate in this context. The statement "Maratha Empire at its peak in 1760" contradicts the earlier map date. The map from 1758 is available on Wikimedia That's why I edited the map of 1760 to 1758 because the description under it was wrong. Seems like Wikipedia editors are biased. Also, there is a talk section about this topic in that article but no one discussed before editing. 2402:8100:387D:609D:AC52:E91E:48D4:A649 (talk) 12:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

You have used multiple IPs to edit war that change, some of which while block evading, and you wonder why no one wishes to engage your brief yet confusing and poorly-written talk page comment from April 22? In this context, your Seems like Wikipedia editors are biased seems unsubstantive and falls short. There may be a language barrier that at this time is insurmountable. This is the English Wikipedia, which means that there is a requirement that one would be sufficiently competent in its use in order to communicate clearly. El_C 13:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Question [2]

Hi El C, I just want to bump the question I asked you last month up at #Thanks re Myanmar. I thought maybe you didn't see it because I added it all the way up there. TEMPO156 (talk) 00:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Hey. Sorry, I did indeed miss your comment at that time. In answer to your question: no, nothing recent comes to mind. HTH. Regards, El_C 04:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Can the Standoff at Eagle Pass be reduced in protection?

I believe you are the Wikipedia administrator who added Extended Confirmation Protection to Standoff at Eagle Pass. Can the protection for this page be reduced to semi-protected, due to the need for updates related to the topic (the banner has been there since February 2024) and the reduced news coverage and controversy about the event.

Side-note: I have extended confirmation protection editing power (500+ edits, more than 30 days). JohnAdams1800 (talk) 01:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

The protection overall is gonna expire soon'ish (July), but sure, sounds good (log update). El_C 04:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Siege of Szigetvár and Nikola IV Zrinski

HI El C. I made a couple of edits on Wikipedia. I think I'm right, maybe I'm not. Two users disagree with me, one from the Battle for Sigetvar, the other from Nikola IV Zrinski, but no one else. I think that unverified images with unknown authors have no place on Wikipedia. Then everyone can post unverified pictures with unknown authors. I think there must be a rule for that in wikipedia, maybe there isn't. So I would like your opinion on that. See my Wikipedia edits. Thank you. 78.2.236.99 (talk) 16:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello. Yeah, sorry, I do think you're wrong here. Just because the 16th century author is unknown, doesn't mean the painting is "unverified." See https://en.mng.hu/artworks/34295 — I personally am inclined to trust the curators of the Hungarian National Gallery. But you can always bring any concerns or issue to the article talk page. That is where that discussion belongs. El_C 21:36, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for protecting those templates :)

For context, I was going through these and finding the ones with >5k transclusions that MusikBot hadn't yet upgraded to TPE. I started listing them at RFPP/I before it occurred to me that -- if I added them all in one set -- I might accidentally cause people to be annoyed with me for flooding the page. Having said that, if you don't mind protecting some more, would it be okay if I listed the remaining ones from that list with >5k transclusions here? (If you do mind, it's not a problem of course!)

All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 22:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Hey, no worries, A smart kitten. Go for it. Regards, El_C 22:20, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks :)

• {{FootballFacts.ru}} (5.7k)
• {{Italic dab2}} (5.3k)
• {{OSM Location map}} (5.6k)
• {{OSM Location map/MaplinkItem}} (5.6k)
• {{OSM Location map/color}} (5.6k)
• {{OSM Location map/core}} (5.6k)
• {{Primary source inline}} (6.1k)
• {{TBA}} (6.1k)
• {{User proud}} (5.1k)
• {{Antonym of (dis)establish}} (11.7k)
• {{Awards table}} (5.8k)
• {{Canadian election result/hold}} (5.7k)
• {{Blockedandtagged}} (5.3k)
• {{CollegePrimaryHeader}} (6.5k)
• {{FCC-LMS-Facility}} (6.4k)
• {{Fbaicon}} (7.9k)
• {{Fbaicon/core}} (8.8k)

(Courtesy ping MusikAnimal - there might be nothing wrong with the bot, but thought I should ping you just in case, due to the number of templates with >5k transclusions that MusikBot II hadn't yet upgraded the protection of.) All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten_[meow] 23:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Done. Regards, El_C 23:58, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C

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Possible removal of semi-protection at Friendly's

I don't know if the vandal is still active or not, but regardless, I believe the time since the page was protected is long enough for them to not vandalize again. Could you remove the semi protection on the page? MessageApp (talk) 23:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Done. El_C 23:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Lower protection of Dota 2

From what I’ve seen the game has declined in popularity, meaning it won’t be as much of a target for vandalism. Plus, edits on the page have even very infrequent and there hasn’t been much talk page vandalism. I suggest semi protection and maybe pending changes if semi is also overkill, but semi is probably the best thing to do for now. CharlieEdited (talk) 01:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Done. El_C 23:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Also do the same thing at Yuri Lowell. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 13:31, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, but for the most part, I prefer to only attend to such requests when they concern protections that I myself have imposed. I'd send you to that admin, but they are no longer one, so the venue to request that would be @WP:RFPP/D. HTH. El_C 17:59, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Lower protection of Republican Party (United States)

The conversation has closed, with a consensus in favor of alphabetical order. Bettering the Wiki (talk) 21:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Protection was already lowered for that page on 22:22, 1 May 2024. El_C 23:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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UCLA protest articles extended confirmation

Hi, I am a prof at UCLA and user https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kd9806 is my student (see userpage). The extended confirmation lock on the 2024 University of California, Los Angeles pro-Palestinian campus occupation is preventing her and many of my student editors who are newer but on the ground from contributing. Is it possible to make a case by case basis exception so some of them can edit? I assume you are an admin and have these privileges. Noopur28 (talk) 15:52, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello. Briefly, requests to expedite the Extended confirmed tenure are made @Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Extended confirmed. Yes, any admin may grant or decline these requests. El_C 18:31, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

I made a request to reduce protection. Any chance you could review it in there? There's a backlog :) Noopur28 (talk) 18:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

That page has no backlog currently. It doesn't even have any outstanding requests. My sense is that you would need more experience to qualify. Sorry, I'm writing in haste. El_C 18:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm very busy, but Noopur28, I mentioned Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Extended confirmed, not a protection reduction. Regardless, no, I can't review it. The rule is that you gotta ask the protecting admin first, who is... *checking*... Daniel Case. But since this is a WP:PIA WP:ECR action, it's highly unlikely that that protection will be reduced. El_C 22:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Request for remove edit lock

Please remove pp-30-500 Ahirwar Dhirendra Singh bundela (talk) 23:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, no, that's a WP:CASTE protection. A topic area under special consideration. El_C 23:16, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

May music

story · music · places

On the bicentenary of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, I remember our recent uplifting choral concert in pictures, on my user page and in my concerts (leading to the two at the church's article). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Today is the Feast of the Ascension for which Bach composed his oratorio, - perhaps watch a bit how the closing movement was performed in Bach's church. The second piece in our program begins with first line from Psalm 80, which made us sing "Israel" often. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Magdalena Hinterdobler is on the Main page today, together with an opera that reviewers deemed not interesting and too obscure for our general readers. The soprano thought differently, - listen and see. - Also on the Main page: a TFA by sadly missed Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

did you listen and see? - today's story has a pic of a woman holding her cat, a DYK of 5 years ago - the recent pics show 2 orange tip butterflies --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

I enjoyed listening to Juliette Journaux for piano, thanks as always for the recommends! El_C 06:28, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

I liked her playing also, to the point. Today's story about Willi Brokmeier still needs support for RD. - "places" have goslings. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:01, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

29 May 1913: The Rite of Spring - today's story - Brokmeier is on the Main page also --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about Samuel Kummer, one of five items on the Main page - more musing on my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:59, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

last offer in May: photos of the river Rhine, and the adjacent Eltville rose garden, - high water and interesting weather --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:59, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

U&A Reversion

Hello. I saw that you were involved with the reversion of my post on the “Universities and Antisemitism” page, specifically about MIT. I was wondering if you could provide me with some clarification on why my edit was reverted. I see that this page is protected, meaning one would have to be above 500 edits, but I am curious about the comment on Palestine-Israel articles. I understand that that these incidents at MIT have been influenced by the I-P conflict, but is there a way I can acknowledge that fact without being in violation of these rules? I would really appreciate any suggestions that could improve to fit Wikipedia standards. Thank you so much! Topiguana (talk) 16:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi. I actually was not involved in any reversions and know little to nothing about those. Rather, I protected the page (link) in response to a protection request (link). Unfortunately, since you lack the required tenure (the extended confirmed one of 30 days and 500 edits), you cannot presently edit the article due these restrictions (WP:ECR). Restrictions the Arbitration Committee has imposed on the WP:PIA topic area. In short, this was a procedural protection that aligns with these rules. Sorry I don't have better news for you. Regards, El_C 17:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

So, Topiguana, either you are able to reach to the WP:XC tenure (which must happen organically) so that the WP:30-500 threshold is met, or WP:ECR only permits you to participate as follows (quoting): Non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace only to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided they are not disruptive. El_C 17:37, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

This is super helpful, thanks so much! So sorry to make any false accusations, I was just looking at the edit history and wanted more information. Topiguana (talk) 18:21, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Not at all, glad you found it informative. All the best, El_C 19:15, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Question from Clovermoss

Hi El C, I have a question. I noticed what you did here. I was kind of ambivalent on whether or not I should revoke talk page access but the idea of protecting the page itself didn't occur to me. Is it because of the sockpuppetry? I'm still getting the hang of nuance surrounding admin stuff and I try to use confusing situations as learning opportunities. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 10:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey. So I revoked TPA because this user continued spamming after being indeffed. Only after that did I notice that they also replied to their own spam as an IP for some reason ^(diff). So I also semiprotected, an action that, granted, renedres the TPA revocation moot. Anyway, since this is a spam-only account with less than 20 edits, my overall position is: who cares? Best wishes, El_C 10:28, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Can you admin delete an edit from page history

Some new (apparently agenda-driven) user has realised they can't edit most Israel-Palestine related articles and so has decided to hit related ones. While most of this can/has just been removed, this edit is, well, read it yourself. A paragraph ranting about Israel being justified. Absolutely not appropriate to be hosted by Wikipedia even just in edit history. Kingsif (talk) 11:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, in my view, that is not a suitable candidate for WP:REVDEL. But one's mileage may vary, so feel free to get a 2nd opinion. El_C 11:17, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm a little surprised that wikivoice apologism for what is accepted as at least war crimes isn't suitable for deletion, to be honest, but thank you for considering. Kingsif (talk) 11:24, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)User:Kingsif, will tell me which section of Wikipedia:Revision deletion#Criteria for redaction you believe applies to the linked diff? Sorry User:El C for taking your space to ask the question. BusterD (talk) 16:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Sure, no.2 - using wikivoice to present apologism for at least war crimes, seems to me as Grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material. Regardless of whatever side of any particular conflict, any comment anywhere that tries justifying what are widely considered war crimes is just so out of line.

What makes it cross the line, for me, is the presentation of this comment in wikivoice as if it's authoritative. I mean, the content was not relevant at the article and had a poor source anyway, but say it was relevant and well-sourced, saying "organisations X and Y think..." is good. But not wikivoice saying it. And, beyond NPOV as I see it, there are likely to be some affected people who would take that as Wikipedia, as a large organisation, taking an offensive stance. Kingsif (talk) 16:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Deleting my userpage?

Hullo El_C, long time no interact! Sorry to be a bother, but I'm writing this to ask if there's a way you or another administrator may "delete" my user page? Looking back, I'm quite uncomfortable with how I revealed both my general location and age in previous revisions (what happens when you're young, dumb, and very dumb!) and was wondering if there was a way for the edit history to be deleted? Or at least not publicly available for other contributors to see? Hope you're having a nice day, many thanks :) Sisuvia (talk) 07:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey Sisuvia, sorry I missed you. But it looks like someone else helped you with that request. Hope all is well. Yours, El_C 22:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

Allison McAtee article

@El C Hi, just thought I should let you know, the user you blocked from editing that article didn't waste any time making another account so they could keep removing information.[11] This time claiming it's a request from the actress. Which I highly doubt. Is is possible for you to prevent that page from being edited not only from accounts that haven't made many edits, but also from IPs since even if an editor gets blocked, they could also log out and make edits? Kcj5062 (talk) 23:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks, Kcj5062. El_C 23:11, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Good News & Bad News

Hi. I just wanted to let you know that:

• Bad News: The "lulzsters" struck Tony Ferguson once again, despite a long history of protection settings in the page log. Can you protect the page for even a longer period?
• Good News: The coast is clear from little T the disambiguation page for a couple of years now. However, I could not chat with the protecting admin due to their prolonged inactivity on Wikipedia. Is it ok for you instead to reset pending changes?

In conclusion, sorry for disturbing you.197.2.14.219 (talk) 20:16, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi. I don't know who little T is, but it looks like I protected Tony Ferguson back in 2022. It was protected by another admin earlier in 2024 (an admin who is active now, or was a few of hours ago, at least). Doesn't matter, I see that there's a lot of disruption to the page, so sure: Semi-protected for a period of 6 months, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. El_C 01:48, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much in advance! As for little T, it is currently pending-protected indefinitely. My concern is: there are barely any edits, whether anonymous or autoconfirmed, which defeats the purpose of protecting such disambiguation page beyond this point. Do you mind reseting pending changes?197.2.14.219 (talk) 01:59, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

No problem. Yeah, that's odd about that disambiguation page, but reset it to what end? It hasn't been edited in years, so I don't think it really matters. El_C 02:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi. Can you look after special:history/nickelodeon on CBS for a while? I once reverted an edit under another IP address but that revision persisted on coming back. At this point, I am uncertain who on earth is right. Furthermore, I am unwilling to get involved again to contribute for the time being due to excessive false accusations by this user for being a WP:SOCK of WP:LTA/TVFT (just because I showed up in WP:RFPP under the 197.[0/1/2/3]::/16 range and/or the 102.[156/157/158/159]::/16 range). Please keep an eye on the page history and decide which is best.197.3.236.189 (talk) 17:44, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi again, IP. Unfortunately, I can't spare the time to investigate this, but ohnoitsjamie (this user) is an experienced admin, so you might wish to try to explain yourself better to him, or submit a query to WP:ANI if you truly believe it to be a legit (and intractable) problem. Sorry I couldn't be of more help, but here's hoping the matter gets resolved amicably. Regards, El_C 21:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

With the tone he uses to respond to my complaints or in his edit summaries:

• special:diff/1178752518
• special:diff/1129084008
• special:diff/1225468207
• special:diff/1225159203

I don't think it is worth bringing such issue to WP:ANI. Plus, I am still unwilling to sign up. My only solution is to bear such situation and take a break (even for up to 3 months, one of my blocked former IP ranges).

He may be one of the majority of, if not all, admins who would disbelieve how my editing behaviour differs from the telly vandal(s), aside from the IP ranges which I've mentioned earlier that I edit with (I don't literally hop from one range to another, it is just the poor quality of my internet connection which periodically disconnects, and that every reconnection comes with a different IP address under those IP ranges without the possibility of enforcing a static IP address).

• I don't blank notices on my talk pages.
• I leave edit summaries occassionally, including a period at the end.
• I may revert to my revision, but not to the extent of warring (User talk:197.3.156.48).

Signed.197.3.236.189 (talk) 23:33, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Confused

Hi El C, What's the edit summary about? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:09, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Hello. It is about you being mindful with your edits, as stated. El_C 06:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Oh, I just noticed the diffs. Sorry, there was no edit conflict warning when I published. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

No worries, these things happen. El_C 06:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

MEK moderation

Hi El C: I know you stepped away from moderating MEK discussions, but I wonder if you are still considering this kind of work? If not, I'll note it and make sure I don't ping you again about this. If you are up for it, I'm workshopping an RFC in the talk page, and I would appreciate any uninvoved feedback to make it fair. Whatever the result is, I would like to avoid a "Bad RFC" outcome. Thank you. Best, MarioGom (talk) 14:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey Mario. I'm afraid that's a not. I helped establish WP:GS/IRANPOL so that I never have to do that again. But I wish you success in your efforts. Regards, El_C 15:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Makes sense. Best, MarioGom (talk) 15:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Care and feeding of bots

Hi El, A comment from the busybody in residence, regarding this bit of house keeping: the bot was only waiting for three requests to become eligible for archiving, which would have happened at 14:38 (UTC). The reason why it wasn't willing to do its chore before was the absence of a {{pagelinks}} at the top of the section. I added one, pro forma, a little while ago. Favonian (talk) 14:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Favonian. I thought the bot had gained sentience and did that to fuck with me, but your explanation is better! El_C 16:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

My signature

I find this funny more than anything, but can you eleborate by what makes my signature being “jarring”? I would be up to redesigning it. I made it three years ago when I pretty much never edited. -1ctinus📝🗨 15:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm not engaging with this. El_C 16:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Laken Riley

Hello again! You and I had a brief discussion yesterday when I asked for an article about Laken Riley's killing to be semi-protected. It seems that even after the protection, multiple editors have been insistent on calling it a "murder", and one of them even moved the page to Murder of Laken Riley, in violation of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (violence and deaths). There is a discussion on the Talk page going on about this, and since you were involved in this area when you and I talked yesterday, I think the discussion on the Talk page could use your valuable input. Thank you. Gottagotospace (talk) 12:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey, I see it's now been moved back. I'm gonna move-protect it momentarily (WP:RM only) so as at to remove all temptation. El_C 21:43, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! If you'd like to contribute, I think your input on the language used on the rest of the page could benefit from your input as well (since I changed a few instances of the word "murder" to other things, but that got reverted by someone else). We're discussing it on the Talk page. Gottagotospace (talk) 22:01, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

No problem, but sorry, no time. El_C 22:03, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

No worries! I figured I might as well ask, but I understand. Gottagotospace (talk) 22:06, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

Paula Vennells - FP

Hi El_C. There is no reason given on the article talk page (or anywhere else I can see that justifies the Full Protection). It is a controversial subject article, but that in itself, does not warrant full protection. I understood that a rationale for article full protection on the talk page or elsewhere is required? Can you please review or add something to the TP? Leaky caldron (talk) 21:02, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

The protection notice can be viewed at the following RfPP diff. The reason should be self-explanatory: an edit war between like 8 users. Sorry, I can't spare the time today for an additional note, but feel free to link my answer here if you think it might help. El_C 21:42, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

I disagree that the disruption meets the criteria for full protection. There is next to no current activity on the article or talk page. The participant you mentioned has not recently contributed. I think if you are willing, it would be appropriate to review the protection in light of the narrow area of dispute and current limited level of disruption. Thanks. Leaky caldron (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

I count nearly 20 reverts in the 2 days alone prior to my full protection, so, no, that makes no sense and is wholly divorced from the facts. Obviously, current would not include the 2 days that it's been fully-protected since, when no one could edit the page aside from admins (fulfilling edit requests) and bots (with sysop permissions). I honestly am at a loss here. El_C 07:34, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

RE: The participant you mentioned has not recently contributed — I didn't mention any participants, but if you mean the requestor of that protection request, they did indeed edit (revert) the article recently, less than an hour prior to my protecting it. And their revert itself was reverted 6 minutes later (9:22-9:28), which is a bit longer than the 4 minutes between reverts prior to these (9:18-9:22).

Diff: 9:22, 25 May 2024 Gaia Octavia Agrippa (talk | contribs | block) Reverted 1 edit by Localhistorian2024 (talk): WP:NPOV

Diff: 9:28, 25 May 2024 Localhistorian2024 (talk | contribs | block) The London Gazette has stated... [etc.]

Diff: 10:11, 25 May 2024 El C (talk | contribs | block) Protected "Paula Vennells": Edit warring / content dispute ([Edit=Require administrator access] (expires 14:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)) [Move=Require administrator access] (expires 14:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)))

So obviously the facts align with my description rather than your own. Facts which are provable and easily verifiable (per directly above). El_C 08:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Lowering Protection Level on Ebrahim Raisi

Hi EL_C. I was wondering when you will lower the protection level on Ebrahim Raisi since it is no longer a highly visible page. ImTheAvidPheasant (talk) 13:54, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey. Done, thanks for the reminder. Still, noting as of earlier today it is no longer listed at WP:ITN. So that's keeping it pretty tight, but I think it's probably fine (unless famous last jinx). El_C 14:31, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Prosecution of Donald Trump in New York

Hello! On March 31, 2023, you semi-protected Indictment of Donald Trump (now a redirect) under WP:AP2. This then went to New York Indictment of Donald Trump (redirect), then First indictment of Donald Trump (redirect), then Prosecution of Donald Trump in New York, and back then forth again with New York Indictment of Donald Trump to remain at the current title. As it has been over a year since the original sanction, I would like to ask if you would be willing to reconsider the page protection placed upon the page (and by extension the other pages listed). EggRoll97 ^(talk) 02:35, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Unprotected. Regards, El_C 18:14, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Revdel request Mexico

Hello! Do you mind if I ask for a revdel on this abominably sexist edit: [12] on 2024 Mexican general election? The offending user has been warned on talk by someone but I have doubts on whether the warning was serious enough. I was also considering page protection but the edit seems to occur every three weeks or so, so the request might not be granted. Thanks! Borgenland (talk) 03:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Done. Regards, El_C 18:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

June music

story · music · places

Today's story is about the TFA, by sadly missed Vami_IV. In my support in 2018, I hoped to do justice to Schloss Köthen next - which I will begin today, finally, promised. Its Bachsaal was pictured to begin the year. For more related thoughts and music, look on my talk for 1 June. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Franz Kafka died 100 years ago OTD, hence the story. I uploaded a few pics from the visit of Graham87. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about a tune used by Bach and Mozart, and Bach's text is base on Psalm 12. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:56, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Today is "the day" for James Joyce, also for Bach's fourth chorale cantata, based on a hymn based on Psalm 6 (and why does it come before the third?) - the new pics have a mammal I had to look up. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Says Nutria, but maybe Muskrat? Groundhog? Capybara? Also, when the last time you've read Ulysses cover to cover? El_C 13:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

I looked at the other two, and groundhog (high mountains) and capybara (much bigger) are out. The habitat described in nutria matched where I saw it, right next to the river, in the middle of town btw, and ignoring me. - Joyce: never. Tough enough for native English speakers. I read what Graham Waterhouse set to music ("Bulbulone" from Finnegans Wake, "Arise" from Chamber Music, #14, "Buzzard" again from Finnegans Wake), who was also inspired by today's birthday child. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:25, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

A river in the middle of town? What town was this again? *** Yeah, understandable, no doubt a tough read. I personally am not a fan. El_C 13:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Geilnau lies along the Lahn, northern side, and the trail is along the Lahn, and where I saw the animal was in the middle of the trail, well, yes, there's a little park on the other side of the trail. The road to Geilnau is a dead-end, which makes the valley quiet, with the train tracks in a tunnel in a distance. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Either Nutria or Muskrat, then. All four are originally from the Americas, but those two were introduced into Eurasia. Capybara (which was a joke nomination) is South America only, while Groundhog—see my petting one at the top of this talk page (though maybe it's actually a Muskrat!)—is North America only. El_C 15:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

New pics of food and flowers come with the story of Noye's Fludde (premiered on 18 June), written by Brian Boulton. I nominated Éric Tappy because he died, and it needs support today! I nominated another women for GA in the Women in Green June run, - review welcome, and more noms planned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:25, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

The nom for Tappy has now a lot of support, but needs an admin to post it. Anybody looking here? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Today is a feast day for which Bach composed a chorale cantata in 1724 (and we had a DYK about it in 2012). Can't believe that Jodie Devos had to die, - don't miss her video from the Opéra-Comique at the end, - story to come. The weekend brought plenty of music sung (one based on Psalm 100 and one based on Psalm 96) and listened to, and some of it is reflected in the last two stories! + pics of good food with good company --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:04, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

the sad story today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:43, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Jordan

Hello, I just noticed the Jordan article had been placed under indef ECP in April, could you please tell me why this was done? Noting that there was an ARBCOM ruling that stated the Jordan article does not fall under ARBPIA, and also that there was not much disruption to the article beyond a single week in April. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey. So when attending to your protection request, I saw excessive ARBPIA editing (disruptive or otherwise) by non-WP:XC accounts. That's the reason. As for that 2018 AE discussion: for our immediate purposes, it's somewhat academic whether the protection defines Jordan as a primary article or as related content. There's also the issue of that page having been protected over 25 times prior. For the longer term, though, there could be a case to downgrade it to (indef) semi as related content only, say, in a few months from now. El_C 18:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

a very cute duck

	a very cute duck
	I just felt kind today ;P Daisytheduck (talk) 02:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the duck, Daisytheduck! El_C 13:15, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Subject

Thank you El_C for closing the (Botola) page due to repeated vandalism. if possible, close it in general from fake accounts. زكرياء نوير (talk) 12:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

No problem, glad I could help, زكرياء نوير. If further issues arise, feel free to relist at WP:RFPP/I or drop me a note here. El_C 13:16, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

user:El_C The page has been vandalized again. Please close it permanently زكرياء نوير (talk) 00:29, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected for a period of 2 weeks, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Permanent protection often gets imposed after dozens of previous protection actions (of escalated durations) over the course of years had proven insufficient. So this page isn't a candidate for that at this time, I'm afraid, since this is only its second protection. El_C 06:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

It's okay. I want you see it again in two weeks, to see if it was vandalized زكرياء نوير (talk) 12:25, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Honestly, I'm unlikely to remember unless given a reminder. But, again, feel free to drop me a line if there's further problems, and it'll be, I dunno, 2 months next, and many months after that. Unlike some admins, I don't usually allow a page to be protected tens of times before making it indef (permanent), but it still won't be twice or thrice from now. El_C 12:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

There is nothing wrong with making the page permanently protected if it is always vulnerable due to frequent modifications, thank you زكرياء نوير (talk) 12:51, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Requests for indef protections for pages of similar and even higher levels of disruption are extremely common, but the protection policy's ethos stresses exhausting all options, and within reason, going through the motions. Which I'm not really the biggest fan of, but I can't act by fiat contra that unless there's something truly egregious. El_C 12:59, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

National Party (Ireland, 2016)

Hiya, you asked for a reminder to restore the page's indef semi protection once the full protection lapses. Here you are! Boardwalk.Koi (talk) 14:47, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Beat me to it! :-) Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 15:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Done — thanks for the reminder, guys! El_C 00:38, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

My signature [2]

Thank you for reminding me to add my signature to my comments. Somehow, I forgot to do it in that ArbCom discussion because usually, when commenting on an article talk page, the website automatically provides our signature for us. I have just added the {{unsigned}} template to each of them. Thank you. 🙂 — Kaalakaa ^(talk) 23:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

No worries, thanks for following up. I didn't realize that was a thing, but that makes sense. Incidentally, some have taken umbrage to my is annoying reminder, but the truth is that I'm annoying about sigs in general. At least once monthly, seemingly. Oh well. Regards, El_C 00:34, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Edit request

Hello. You semi protected the page on the 2024 Dagestan attack for a number of days, and its talk page is also semi-protected.

Previously, consistent with the wp norm, the first line of that article began contained bolded language. In this case, saying:

"On 23 June 2024, the 2024 Dagestan attack took place, when coordinated terrorist attacks were launched ..."

That has now been changed. It now says "On 23 June 2024, coordinated terrorist attacks were launched ..." There is no bolded language in the lede, matching the title. And I cannot fix that, or ask on the article talk page that it be fixed, as those pages are semi-protected.

Can you please restore the former format, consistent with out norms across the project?

I leave my request here as I am unable to do so on the article talk page, given that it has been semi-protected. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:78CD:917F:7124:8DC3 (talk) 03:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry, I'm precluded from doing that due to WP:UNINVOLVED. You can submit that request to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Edit, though. HTH. El_C 04:48, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Request renewing a block for persistent BATTLEGROUND

I'd rather not go through ANI all over again when an editor immediately returned to the behavior that got them blocked there previously. In short, Elinruby has continued their personal attacks and other BATTLEGROUND tactics across multiple discussions both on- and off-Wiki since their most recent block. When I reverted a removal of content on 2021 Canadian church burnings, they

1. Twice again removed the content
2. Initiated a talk page discussion mischaracterizing me as claiming Portland is in Canada, a false statement they repeated on their talk page
3. Opened a discussion at WP:NPOVN only 15 minutes after discussion began on the article talk page, but used such a non-neutral statement that it had to be reverted
4. Began a further eight different talk sections on the article talk page
5. Wrote crickets when I didn't have time to immediately respond, following up with this when I finally had a moment to begin catching up

They've also taken to posting numerous discussions at NPOVN and RSN recently, including at least one where they admitted to not even reading the source they were reporting (I didn't actually check the text). Another editor has also recently complained regarding Elinruby's behavior. I request you restore the block with an escalated duration. ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:55, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Pass! Sorry, at this time above all else, I can't commit to the follow ups, certainly if blocking was determined the correct course of action. So noticeboard does seem like your best bet (such as it is, but what can you do?). El_C 09:03, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Derby Subj

Hi El_C this Casablanca derby needs to be closed after the continuous destruction, thank you. Ji Soôo97 (talk) 01:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

July music

story · music · places

The story is today about the first published composition by Arnold Schönberg which I was blessed to hear. Listen, and perhaps read what Alma Mahler (to-be-Mahler at the time, to be precise, who was present at the first performance) said, and yes that was too much for the Main page ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about a Bach cantata premiered 300 years ago OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

3 July is the birthday of Leoš Janáček, and I'm happy I had a meaningful DYK in 2021. It's also the birthday of Franz Kafka, and I uploaded pics from his family's album seen in Berlin. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Libuše Domanínská, the subject of yesterday's story, would have turned 100 today, but I missed that ;) - Overnight, Tamara Milashkina became GA and Lando Bartolini went to the Main page. I made my story about his almost unbelievable career, from Luigi in Il tabarro in Philadelphia in 1968 (with a nod to Liberty) up to Calaf in Turandot in Beijing in 1999 ;) - 4 July is also the birthday of Brian Boulton who was a pioneer of a concise infobox in 2013. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Pictured on the Main page: Brian's Mozart family grand tour, my story today, and Mozart related to all three items of music on my talk: our 2023 concert, an opera in a theatre where a Mozart premiere took place, and those remembered, Martti Wallén, a bass, and Liana Isakadze, a violinist from Georgia, (whose article would be better with more details about her music-making). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:05, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Found a bit more. Today's story is about her, an outstanding violinist from Georgia, which is a sad story in the end. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

My story today is - because of the anniversary of the premiere OTD in 1782 - about Die Entführung aus dem Serail, opera by Mozart, while yesterday's was - because of the TFA - about Les contes d'Hoffmann, opera by Offenbach, - so 3 times Mozart again if you click on "music" ;) - and a small deer pictured in the new pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is Hevenu shalom aleichem, in honour of the friend from Israel whose birthday is today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about a photographer who took iconic pictures, especially View from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Manhattan, 9/11, yesterday's was a great mezzo, and on Thursday we watched a sublime ballerina. If that's not enough my talk offers the chamber music from two amazing concerts. The latest pics have a juxtaposition of cattle (moving their ears at a wild speed) and their meat on a plate - a bit cruel perhaps. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:55, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

... and today's story begins with Psalm 124, paraphrased in 1524, and put to five (!) chorale settings in 1724, for this Sunday. Nominated for GA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:36, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Remove protection from Big N' Tasty

I see no reason for the page to continue being protected since there is no controversy or anything surrounding it unlike with some other food items. Plus, edits are so infrequent that protection is most likely useless. Maybe if vandalism returns there could be some pending changes or maybe semi, but there’s no way a 5-year-long ECP is worth it anymore. CharlieEdited (talk) 01:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

It was an LTA years-long obsession (not just with this page) rather than real-world controversy or incident. Anyway Unprotected. El_C 06:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Remove protection

Hi ELC, After opened the page Botola after you closed it for a week, it was vandalized again. Can you close it permanently. 160.177.131.79 (talk) 14:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Profile syntax

Hello! I'm cleaning up various pages with tracked syntax errors and ran across your userpage this evening. Wondered if you'd be willing to update it with these changes to correct the misnested and obsolete tag issues? If these meet your approval, you can copy the entirety (minus the first two lines) here for simplicity. Best wishes, and hope you are staying cool this hot summer! Zinnober9 (talk) 05:36, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

Done — thank you for your diligence. Best, El_C 09:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

List of highest grossing films protection

Hi, I asked you a question here, but I don't know if you saw the ping, can you give back to the page the EC protection? Thanks. Today another edit was reverted to a registered user--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 17:05, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Hey. No, I didn't see it, but you should not edit archives (from a year ago and in general), since those discussions are no longer live. Sorry, but a single user (now blocked) is not enough for WP:ECP that would effect many. And I don't have the time to look into this in depth, sort of in-the-blind, as I don't remember much about this page a year ago. El_C 18:56, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

But it is not only a user, I told you about also in December 2023, there are many reverted edits from registered users, you can see some of them here, but there are another without the tag. Since the user that asked you to reduce the protection didn't know anything about the page situation, I think that is pretty unfair, for months me, Betty Logan and other users have to revert many edits because of that, so maybe you can put back the ECP even without knowing the page too much, like that user did in September 2023, if you "accepted" that request from a user that doesn't follow, doesn't edit and doesn't know the page, you can trust me, one of the main contributor, when I say that the page still needs the ECP, thanks--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 19:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Sure, let's see what Betty Logan says (I see you've notified her of this). Sorry, I've protected many hundreds of pages since then, so again, I simply do not recall any of these details. El_C 20:04, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

There is currently an underlying issue with Box-Office Mojo double-counting re-release grosses. This has led to many editors "correcting" figures to incorrect values. These edits are carried out entirely in good faith, but they do generally come from newer, more inexperienced editors who are not familiar with the issue. We are tracking the problem at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Film_finance_task_force#Box_Office_Mojo which most of the regular Film project editors are familiar with. I think extending the protection would probably help. It would mean that new/inexperienced editors would need to request the change on the talk page where the problem could be explained to them (if applicable). I don't think it would be detrimental to updating the article because it has several dedicated editors from a wide geographic span. Betty Logan (talk) 10:03, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Done — thank you both. El_C 15:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

List of CNN Personnel vandal

Hey, El C!

A couple days ago you protected List of CNN personnel after an Israeli IP vandal engaged in several days of constant vandalism. Well, the protection is off and he's back. Would you mind taking look cat the situation and see what might be done? He's IP-hopping, so a range block, maybe? You know what's best. Thanks for any help! Drmargi (talk) 02:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

August music

story · music · places

Today I have two "musicians" on the Main page, one is also the topic of my story, watch and listen, - I like today's especially because you see him at work, hear him talk about his work and the result of his work - rare! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

... and a third, like 22 July but with interview and the music to be played today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

On 13 August, Bach's cantata was 300 years old, and the image one. The cantata is an extrordinary piece, using the chorale's text and famous melody more than others in the cycle. It's nice to have not only a recent death, but also this "birthday" on the Main page. And a rainbow in my places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:54, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

... adding 4 animals from 30 July --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Hey. Thank you. Sorry for my absence. Hope to be back soon, though. All the best, El_C 12:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

IP vandalism again

Ip Special:Contributions/103.131.213.43 and Special:Contributions/103.131.212.131 are vandalizing movie pages by changing budget and boxoffice numbers. You blocked IP Special:Contributions/103.131.213.151 and all these IPs come from one person. I think a block on a range will be helpful. RangersRus (talk) 11:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Invitation to join the Twenty Year Society

Dear El C,

I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Twenty Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for twenty years or more. ​

Best regards, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 07:02, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

— The Herald (Benison) (talk) 07:02, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Unblocking from editing

Why did you unblock me from editing? Countscarter (talk) 03:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

That didn't happen. El_C 12:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

One of the saddest songs I know

"The Lost Ones", by Ted Hawkins. Narky Blert (talk) 16:34, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Hey. More Ted Hawkins, nice. But, sorry, I am denying sadness for the moment (somehow). Hope you've been well. Best wishes, El_C 12:35, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Question about a close

Hi El C. In your close here you used the phrase with prejudice. This wording has come up in a few different places I've seen regarding appeals and so I was just wondering what you meant by it. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:02, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Hey. This is over a year ago, but probably aligning with such comments as Hell no and reconsider after the heat death of the universe, and so on. HTH. El_C 21:56, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

While I have no eagerness to see this person unblocked (probably ever) it's been taken by a few admins to mean that the person can literally never appeal again, which strikes me as beyond the consensus of that conversation (and truthfully likely beyond policy consensus, at least as policy is written). Was it your intent to permanently close all future appeals? Barkeep49 (talk) 22:03, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

No, no, that was not my intent. I think at the time I was just, like, fuck that guy. But I agree with what you say and, in any case, I would not have stood in the way of any future appeals. El_C 22:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I certainly can't argue with the sentiment you had at the time. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:20, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Request to reconsider a close on "with prejudice"

Hi El C. I know it's been a while, but you closed Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Archive351#Unblock_request_of_Cognition, and since then I think the impact of your wording has been perhaps broader than intended. Your wording stated that the appeal was denied "with prejudice." While I understand the sentiment of the thread was that this user was unwelcome, the "with prejudice" wording suggests that we will never, ever unban them. While that might be true, it might not be, and telling someone to never come back just encourages sockpuppeting. This has created a problem at UTRS where it's unclear if this user can appeal at all. So in the interest of resolving this issue, I wonder if you might reconsider your choice of wording in the close. I don't think the community has authorized the sort of decision to permaban people without any further chance of appeal. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 20:25, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello. Please refer to the (now main) thread directly above, which I feel suffices for this singular incidence. If you need more from me, let me know. El_C 02:36, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

@El C Ah, my bad, I didn't see that @Barkeep49 had also raised the issue. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 06:19, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

@CaptainEek and Barkeep49: To expand a bit (sorry, been pressed for time recently), I think there are ways in which future appeals can be limited by a closing admin in the course of a consensus for a CBAN, which is when reoccurring appeals are the subject of that consensus expressly. I've done this before. Two years probably tops (five unlikely). Indef denial of considering appeals is possible, but that'd be the exclusive domain of ARBCOM (project-wise, of course it could also happen at the Foundation level). This was reflexive on my part, which I do regret in so far as it inconveniencing my colleagues. And for that I apologize, Deepfriedokra, Jpgordon, and Yamla. Yours truly, El_C 06:54, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks y'all. Pinging @JBW who was very articulate at utrs. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:30, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks sorry to put you all through that. I guess that now means I get to (reluctantly) carry his appeal to the community-- but not on a Sunday, for that is my day of prayer. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

September music

story · music · places

Today is Schoenberg's 150th birthday! On display his portrait by Egon Schiele, music from Moses und Aron, and two DYK hooks, one from 2010 and another from 2014; the latter, about his 40th birthday, appeared on his 140th birthday ;) - See places for a stunning sunrise, on the day Bruckner's 200th birthday was celebrated (just a few days late). -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

My story today is about a man who played jazz when it was banned by the Nazis, - you can listen to how they played it later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:53, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

My story today features a pic I took from my position in the choir, I can also offer varied delightful music, some from Venice, also with pics I took, - note the rose in the clarinet ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:22, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Abdul Hannan

Hello, could you protect this deletion query so that only self-confirmed editors participate and not anonymous IPs. Thank you. Alon9393 (talk) 07:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm declining your request, Alon9393. One disruptive user (now indef blocked) is insufficient grounds for protection (i.e. there needs to be a few). El_C 14:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

Edward Windsor, Lord Downpatrick

Hello there! I'm just reaching out to inform you that troll editors are back trying to mess with this page, since the protections were recently taken down. They removed a more recent picture of the guy to use an image from nearly 20 years ago, and I worry that there may be more vandalization to come.

Could you restore the protection template please? I'm happy to update the image again, if needed, and stay on the lookout for disruptive editing. Thanks so much. Doctorstrange617 (talk) 16:28, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

It looks like someone deleted the more recent image altogether actually. Not sure why, since there's no justification for it... Doctorstrange617 (talk) 16:33, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

October music

story · music · places

You may remember Maryvonne Le Dizès, my story today as on 28 August. Some September music was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with Ligeti mentioned in story and music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:57, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

I made Leif Segerstam my big story today. -Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:06, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

My story today is a cantata 300 years old, based on a hymn 200 years old when the cantata was composed, based on a psalm some thousand years old, - so said the 2015 DYK hook. I had forgotten the discussion on the talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Happy whatever you celebrate today, - more who died, more to come, and they made the world richer. Greetings from Madrid where I took the pic of assorted Cucurbita in 2016. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:52, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Question [3]

Hi, El C. Regarding the "pointless addition" edit summary, can you suggest what I could have done differently here? I started a talk page discussion elaborating on this, but it seems that my approach was not good enough here. Do you suggest a more descriptive edit summary? Thank you. Mellk (talk) 15:39, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Hello. It doesn't touch on that [bold title opening] being the prevailing convention. You need to address that directly. El_C 15:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Makes sense, I should have referred to something like MOS:REDUNDANCY or MOS:AVOIDBOLD then. Thanks for clarifying. Mellk (talk) 15:48, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the info

Hello @El C thank you for the reply and the info in the post and don't worry for writing in haste, I was thinking that page was intended for quick comments which is why I didn't contribute when I initially saw the post. Thanks for the info you provided I'm gonna try and see what I can do about it. Galdrack (talk) 20:25, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome, Galdrack, glad I could help. Good luck. El_C 20:30, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Galdrack, in the interest of completeness, I forget if you commented at the latest ANI report (permalink), but I ended up blocking Steven indefinitely (diff). Hope this message finds you well. Best, El_C 20:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

@El C I was watching it but never got the time to write out my full opinion on the matter, in the end it wasn't needed I suppose. Thanks for letting me know and thanks for the help! Galdrack (talk) 21:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Ukrainian election vandalism

Hello! Unfortunately, the user I mentioned at WP:ANI#IP user re-adding unsubstantiated dates for next Ukrainian elections, whom you partially blocked for two weeks, appears to be back under the new IP User:109.245.225.6; they are continuing the pattern of inserting 2025 as the next election date with no source and the edit summary "election proposed". I've reverted the latest edits again - the three articles affected are 2019 Ukrainian presidential election, 2019 Ukrainian parliamentary election, and next Ukrainian parliamentary election.

Thank you for your help! Helpful Cat (talk) 15:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I've just noticed that the same thing was done on Next Ukrainian presidential election, which I have reverted as well. This one is by User:Stankemanual (diff), I don't know if they are the same person behind the two IPs. Helpful Cat (talk) 15:33, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Hey. So I've just semiprotected all of them under WP:ARBEE. Obviously, there's also a WP:RUSUKR undercurrent there as well, but we'll cross that bridge if and/or when that protection level falls short. Sorry, I'm writing in haste and do not have time to look into that named account (or anything else) right now, but they have only two edits at the time of writing, so the semiprotection should work against them, at least for the time being. Best, El_C 15:42, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

@El C that's great, thank you so much for your help and swift action! Helpful Cat (talk) 15:47, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

You're welcome, happy to help. Please feel free to continue to update me if any further issues arise. El_C 15:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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Another controversy with Mellk

This lengthy note—with its many bold passages and many links—is not something I wish to engage with at this time, sorry. El_C 19:51, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Hi, once again I have an issue with this user Mellk, who created another controversy seemingly out of nowhere and don't want to explain a proper reason for their reverts, regarding this they were already formally warned about by you. First, they reverted me in Kievan Rus' article [13], with a summary like this ""Land of Rus" not mentioned in source, WP:OR and other unexplained changes". I reverted them [14], and pointed out that it Rus' land is mentioned with sources literally above the section I edited (In Kievan Rus', go to the "names" section and see an image with a sentence below:"Rus' land in narrow sense", which is sourced!), I also pointed out that I have already given an explanation for my changes in my last summary. They continued to persist and reverted my changes again, with a summary:"Image alone is not RS and overall this does not look like an improvement, you can start a talk page discussion about this. I didn't revert them again, as this is what other administrator suggested, so I wasn't doing any edit warring, and instead I decided to address this issue to them in a discussion in History of Ukraine talk page, expecting to solve the issue quickly [15], yet here they greeted me with this comment:"This talk page is only about improving this article. This does not count as spam. If you create a new topic there, I will explain my reasoning there in more detail". They basically told that it is I who must create new topic on Kievan Rus' talk page and only then they will give a proper explanation, as if it's not what they are supposed to do from the beginning . I addressed them this and after few responses, they eventually moved to the talk page of Kievan Rus' article, but answered under completely different topic created by another person, which they associated with me for some reason. I created a new topic for them, where they continued to write me this [16]:"There is also no mention of "Land of Rus" in Encyclopedia of Ukraine, and really, we should be using better sources than this. If this is based on the image, then this looks like synth. The other changes do not look like an improvement. For example, what is "the first Rus' people" supposed to mean? Also, changing "Vladimir the Great and Yaroslav the Wise tried to associate the name with all of the extended princely domains" to "the name was as well denoting all of the Kievan domains" changes the meaning". They continued to ignore the fact that the sentence below the image was sourced and I addressed them this. They also didn't know what Rus' people meant at different times, yet still addressed this as my issue. Seeing the lack of proper reasoning yet a persistent denial of my edits, I tried to ask for further details about why they see my changes as a WP:synth,[17], and also told them to not waste time of other editors with a minor nitpicking or because of their own dull understanding of a subject. Instead of giving me a further proper response, they wrote me this [18]:" 'Since you are resorting to personal attacks once again, I have lost interest in discussing' ". Then they headed to the Talk page of other administrator and began to complain [19]:"Hi asilvering, I am still finding it impossible to discuss edits with Shahray, already less than a day after their block expired". I obviously noticed this and addressed their childish behavior and unwillingness to cooperate. Surprisingly, other administrator wrote this [20]:"Nah, I think you're fine to go to ANI about it. They've been blocked twice for this already, and now they might be doing WP:LOUTSOCK stuff". Asilvering supported them and suggested to report me on notice board, with absolutely no evidence of my guilt given, giving me some further nonsensical accusations like "sock puppetary", even though I wrote all my messages to Mellk from my personal account. Furthermore, Asilvering ignored my comment and my concerns about Mellk [21] and wrote:"Go ahead and use that reply above as evidence ¯\_(ツ)_/¯". Viewing this overall, a deliberate attempt to target me might take place, so I ask for a suggestion from you about how can we solve this situation and should Mellk receive a temporary block for a behavior they have been already warned about? Because they don't seem to want a peaceful solution and quickly drop out of the discussion after a few responses, persisting on deleting my changes at the same time. Shahray (talk) 17:44, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Notifying people in an edit summary

(talk page watcher) I'm not sure if you meant to notify anyone in the edit summary with this edit. I just wanted to pint out that it's possible, but you have to link the persons' userspace in the edit summary. So, if you wanted to notify me in an edit summary, you'd have to put in [[User:I dream of horses]] somewhere within it. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 20:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

It was intentional. El_C 21:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

@El C, I believe this topic ban isn't justified enough, I explained the reason here [22]. If you don't want to go into details or unban, then I ask you to at least adjust this ban for now so I can edit talk pages, and can ask community broadly regarding my changes. I don't think this should create any issues. Further editing is pointless without getting consensus first anyway. Shahray (talk) 06:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Shahray, I'm not involved in imposing this ban and unfortunately can't spare the time to review it, sorry. El_C 07:51, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

@El C, I know you shouldn't necessarily look into this, but it would be helpful if you make an adjustment that allows to edit talk pages, I don't think it wastes much time or is controversial. Admin who imposed this ban said they are "happy for other admins to make whatever adjustments they feel are reasonable". Cheers. Shahray (talk) 08:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

You misunderstand the admin who made that comment after saying "go straight to AE as described at WP:CTOP#Appeals and amendments". The admin is saying that the AE admins at WP:AE will make adjustments they feel are reasonable. That does not apply to individual admins at their talk pages. El_C has made it clear that they are busy and you should post at WP:AE if seeking an adjustment, not here. Johnuniq (talk) 09:27, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Twin Flames

Thanks for the page protection and revdels. If you get a chance, there are two more IP edits that could use revdel too.[23][24] KoA (talk) 21:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Ugh, pattern recognition fail. :( Done. El_C 22:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

RE: Sarah Jama Page

Good evening El C,

I want to start off by thanking you for protecting the Sarah Jama page! It's badly needed. Also, I love the chipmunk pictures - I live near the Niagara Escarpment and one of my favourite things is hiking and finding all the wildlife on the trail, very much including quite a few chipmunks.

I'm having a lot of difficulty with the page for Sarah Jama. I'll send you a link to the version I created, which has been repeatedly sabotaged:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sarah_Jama&oldid=1254559532

Some of my formatting isn't perfect, especially around dates for citations and so forth. But I think you'll agree that my content is objective, impartial, and well-substantiated.

I see that you locked the page and required that extended confirmed users alone are allowed to make edits. While I applaud the protection, the problem is that the version implemented contains multiple very serious omissions, most notably MPP Sarah Jama's legislative work, which you'll see in my version, but not the page's current version.

Any help will be much appreciated, I only want the truth to be represented.

Pat PatHamilton47 (talk) 01:31, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello PatHamilton47. Unfortunately, even if the edits (which I did not examine closely) are indeed objective, impartial, and well-substantiated, that isn't pertinent to this action and also not for me to decide. The account restriction (to WP:XC) is an arbitration remedy (WP:PIA, WP:ECR) that is meant as a technical limitation imposed by the Arbitration Committee. And not for me to decide even beyond that, per WP:INVOLVED. So the edits being correct—which short of WP:LIBEL outright is sorta in the eye of the beholder—would not be seen as a mitigating factor. Well, to a point. Say you had a good record of well-sourced edits and were at ~450 edits (50 short of the XC tenure)... in that instance, I might manually upgrade your permissions (and most admins wouldn't even do that as we have so little discretion in that area). But you're at 20 at the time of writing, so not even close. So my suggestion would be for you to prioritize what you deem most pressing and formulate that through the edit request feature. Which is all you're allowed to do for this topic area until meeting the 30 days 500 edits requirement (WP:30/500). Sorry I don't have better news for you, but that's just how the system has been set up over the years, mostly to avoid canvassing and brigading in some of these especially contentious topics. Thank you. El_C 03:10, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

PatHamilton47, as an afterthought, you can see from a protection request (for the article Ongoing Nakba) from earlier today that, for my part, I at least try to avoid topic area edits by un-tenured users from being rejected offhand simply on the basis of lacking that tenure. Like the editor in that request who effectively said: I agree with the edits and think they're good, but I still undid them for lacking the tenure (i.e. on that basis only). It does sometimes feel like I'm fighting a losing battle, though. But I still try. Yours, El_C 09:42, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Notice of a discussion I think you'd be interested in knowing about

Hey El C: I thought you might want to be aware of this discussion (which includes not just the linked to thread, but a much larger one further above on VP/WMF). In summary, it appears that the WMF is prepared to imminently disclose personally identifying information about volunteers in a controversial Indian court case, where a news agency is attempting to suppress Wikipedia's tertiary coverage of the content of secondary sources (which it considers unflattering) by going after a number of individual editors as defendants. In order to comply with court orders in the case, it seems the WMF is prepared to share this information in what a number of us consider a pretty seismically bad idea and a betrayal of community priorities and values (the WMF has also already used an office action to remove an article reporting on the case, at the direction of the court for what said court regards as legitimate sub judice reasons).

While the deletion of the article has been framed by the WMF as temporary step to preserve appeal on the overall case, and there are mixed feelings in the community response as to that so far, there is a much more uniform opposition to throwing the individual editors (at least one of whom is located in India and has profound apprehension about what this could mean for his life with regard to litigation and beyond) under the bus. And yet the WMF appears to be prepared to share the information in question, as soon as Nov. 8. Can I impose upon you to take a look at the matter and share your perspective? SnowRise ^{let's rap} 00:51, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Hey. I'm sorry, but whatever this is, it is summarized poorly. Particularly, I've yet to see where it is expressly stated that the WMF is prepared to imminently disclose personally identifying information, as soon as Nov. 8, that could then be subject to possible discovery or leaking. Of crouse, I'd strongly oppose such a gross overreach and betrayal by the Foundation. And of course, I'd rather the Foundation as representing the English Wikipedia refuse to cooperate with that Indian court, even if that means letting India (with its mass number of English speakers) go by the wayside like Russia, China, Turkey, etc. If only to avoid the likely class-action suit in America that could spell the demise of the WMF and by extension, its flagship English Wikipedia project. But the facts of the matter are unclear (within the thousands of words) and my time is limited by necessity as of late, notwithstanding even the potential gravity of such a measure. El_C 05:41, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Well, as to the certainty that a disclosure is imminent that is driving so much of the concern just now, it comes from one of the involved editors/potential defendants, who reached out to Valereee with a series of posts they wished Val to deliver into the thread on their behalf. In those messages, this editor (anonymous to the broader community at the present time) disclosed that they have been in touch with the WMF over the last few days and that the current WMF plan seems to be to disclose the PII to the court on the 8th. So, not really much doubt at this moment in time, unfortunately. SnowRise ^{let's rap} 06:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

On her talk page or privately? Also, I just realized that the WPO's thread titled "Asian News International sues Wikipedia for Defamation" is about this. I've yet to look at that thread and didn't connect between Asian News International and India until now. Anyway, maybe that thread can offer a better summary. As mentioned, my time is very limited lately, but I'll try giving that thread at least a cursory read. Yours, El_C 06:18, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

That's all that can be asked, and then some, when I consider the general state of things at this moment. ;) SnowRise ^{let's rap} 07:47, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Snow Rise, I'm writing in haste, but in the interest of completeness, I've yet to read that thread, but I did find a Singpost summary (by way of WPO) here. So I'm somewhat up to date, but Yngvadottir, help a brother out! I also found out that Republic TV is considering a similar suit (you know, the leftists and shit), and guess which admin indef semi'd that page as WP:ARBIND? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ El_C 02:33, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

In response to ping, I was about to recommend that Wikipediocracy thread; if you can stand to wade through the bloviations from people like me, I think the informational posts there summarize the evolving situation, with links, better than anything else including the Signpost. Sorry. Yngvadottir (talk) 02:59, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Fair enough, will do. Thanks for taking the time and for the prompt response. Btw, you might not be as longwinded as Snow Rise (*poke*), but I rarely if ever fail to find it worthwhile reading (either of) your writings in full. But time, you know, a harsh mistress. Thanks again. Yours, El_C 03:22, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Crank

Could you please reinstate the page protection for this redirect? It went off two weeks ago, and the IP reversals have already started up again. Cheers --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 12:06, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Elmidae, the page you directly-linked is not a redirect, so all I have in front of me is the WP:DAB page that was never protected and was last edited 06:14, 5 July 2022. El_C 01:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, wrong link - I intended Crank (person). --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 08:10, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected for a period of 6 months, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. El_C 11:23, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

November music

story · music · places

For a surprise, a Bach cantata is on the Main page today, where it was last year for the 300th anniversary, and they were too lazy to find something new ;) - Look at my story, and listen to the 3 whole-tone steps and the dialogues of Fear and Hope. - An open letter open to be signed (more info on the talk), - I haven't checked if you did, please ignore then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:07, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Today's story relates to 2 meanings of 9 Nov, - imagine: I found a DYK I liked from 2006, before my time here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:07, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

I uploaded more pics, on a mountain in the sun above the fog. - Madeleine Riffaud - remember. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Mahsa Amini

@El C, in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mahsa Amini you mentioned that the result was merge with an option to split in the near future. Now after two years the articles Mahsa Amini and Death of Mahsa Amini have been split specially that Mahsa Amini has received Sakharov Prize. But some users once again are determined to remove Mahsa Amini article because of personal and political reasons. They are wrongly going to merge article Mahsa Amini into Death of Mahsa Amini whereas these articles need necessarily to be separated because both of them are notable and Mahsa Amin has received Sakharov Prize. I think a person who has received this important prize must have an article independently. Unfortunately some users are determined to remove her article just because of political reasons which is not acceptable in Wikipedia. Please help to stop merging these articles. AlijenabH (talk) 19:24, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, AlijenabH, but I lack the spare time to give this even a cursory review right now, so I leave it to be decided by others. I notice you already posted WP:AN#Please stop merging Mahsa Amini into Death of Mahsa Amini (permalink), so however that concludes is fine with me. Thank you. El_C 00:42, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

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I'm trying to figure out what Special:Diff/1257824916 means. RoySmith (talk) 21:10, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

L does not stand for win, that would be W. El_C 21:12, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

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