This makes me want to use and syndicate to it more often.
Yeah I'm happy to hand-import edge case things, I'd be very very happy with "75% of the internet's recipes can be imported into cooklang format and therefore into my #obsidianmd vault"
— Eleanor Konik (@EleanorKonik) December 25, 2021
I *really* hope we can get good #GenesisWP #IndieWeb support! Looks like there's a good start, but I'd love to see the Genesis Theme Framework listed here: https://t.co/jdMv4cblK3
— Andrew Wetzel (@CircleReader) December 15, 2021
Andrew Doran (https://andrewdoran.uk/blog/)Are there any paid WordPress themes out there with good implementations of webmentions, or is this not (yet?) mainstream enough?
What functionality are you looking for in a theme beyond what is already set up within the two WordPress webmention plugins (Webmention and Semantic Linkbacks)? Are you asking about Microformats markup in themes?
Great sculpture finds @ChrisAldrich and clever how he attempted to customise preview per site, but hasn’t og:image tags basically solved that particular ‘problem’? — #openweb #tech https://t.co/2NsNgJ8KrL
— Laurence Warner (@vv4rner) August 15, 2021
The whole point of that post is to show that og hasn’t solved it. There are too many flavors of metacrap and no standards. And worse og is not only not “open” it’s a DRY violation.
If you want to spelunk a bit, Cory Doctorow approached the idea back in 2001: Metacrap: Putting the torch to seven straw-men of the meta-utopia
Jamie Tanna (Jamie Tanna | Software Engineer)Announcing the Microformats translation layer for book data.
h-book ❧
h-book is an experimental microformat at best.
I might recommend for minimizing the vocabulary that one might use the existing h-product instead and allow parsers to find an ISBN, Library of Congress book number, ASIN, UPC, or other product code to determine “bookness”.
Annotated on August 01, 2021 at 09:13AM
Ameya Warde (@ameyawarde) (Twitter)Do people still use @microformats? There's a blog post from last year but the wiki is full of broken links, and also the hcard generator includes AIM name :D.
— Ameya Warde (@ameyawarde) April 22, 2021
(Just poking around the #IndieWeb /wiki for the first time as I'm working on my digital garden..)
I know there are many still actively using Microformats. Sometimes the wiki can have older examples and there’s always linkrot. On hCard (microformats v1), you’re probably better off looking at the newer h-card (v2) specification and examples. In skimming it tonight I notice that Mastodon isn’t listed on the page though they support it. My own site parses them to pull in author names, URLs, and avatars in the reply contexts on my posts.
I recently found https://indiewebify.me/ good in testing and fixing an h-card I set up on one of my wikis/digital gardens.
— I was raised by a cup of internet (@DavidWolfpaw) February 25, 2021
Mike Rockwell (Mike Rockwell)Just added an h-card to the footer of mike.rockwell.mx. I’m hoping that’s all that’s necessary to get Webmentions to include an avatar image. https://mike.rockwell.mx/asides/780
Dries Buytaert (dri.es)Every day, millions of new web pages are added to the internet. Most of them are unstructured, uncategorized, and nearly impossible for software to understand. It irks me. Look no further than Sir Tim Berners-Lee's Wikipedia page: The markup for Tim Berners-Lee's Wikipedia page; it's complex and inc...
We definitely need more rich mark up that’s parseable and usable. I’m not sure that additional HTML tags would necessarily be taken up heavily to be of much use.
I do like having some solid microformats on my own content and it works out well with many of the parsing tools that I use regularly for consuming content. I’m curious what Dries has tried out in terms of options he’s dogfooded into Drupal? I do notice that when my website parses his article, it does pull in more data than most sites I come across. The one thing my parser didn’t find was his avatar in the “correct” place. It popped up as a page photo rather than an avatar for him as an author.
Putting microformats into Wikipedia seems like an interesting idea. Anyone want to manually add microformats to tbl’s Wikipedia page? 🙂
Proposal: h-story
— Known (@withknown) December 23, 2020
Also: h-investment
And: h-shitpost
h-shitpost?! This should parse without any additional work:
<div class="h-entry"> <time class="dt-published">2017-01-20</time>: <p class="p-content">I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.</p> <span class="p-author">Donald John Trump</span> <span class="p-category">shitpost</span> </div>
😉
The current microformats include pattern offers two methods — using <object> or <a> — to include in a microformat element parts of a document that are outside of that microformats element's DOM tree. Both patterns have problems, and have not been widely adopted. Also, the include pattern has not been updated for microformats 2. This page is a proposal for a new include pattern using a custom element without any semantics.
It’s a reasonably good example of how web standards are evolved for those who might like to see how the sausage is made (pun intended.)
Dan Cederholm's logo but now adjusted for the microformat dinners. :D
::dan don't hurt me:: :D
