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For the video’s freeze frame, they use the one non-black (?) criminal whom Kamala helped bail out, but all the other crooks in the ad are black.

Here’s George H.W. Bush’s 1988 Willie Horton ad:

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Seems perfectly reasonable, but by 1992 during the first wave of Wokeness, the Media Megaphone had converted this Pulitzer Prize-winning story about Dukakis’s screw-up into proof of Bush’s racism

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  1. So apparently $200M handed to the forcememe artisans at “Launch Viral” has resulted in the slogans “Kamala is brat” and “Trump is wierd.”

    •�Replies: @bomag
    @J.Ross

    During WWII's spending spree in the US, Congress was trying to crack down on some of the boondoggles and money wasting.

    One exchange had the bureaucrat saying, "when I send out a check to pay for something, I don't look at the amount."

    Good times are here again.
    , @dcthrowback
    @J.Ross

    ***Wired

    Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Anon
    @J.Ross


    “Trump is wierd.”

    The Kamala the Mean Girl phase of the campaign, it seems. Shut up you old bag or Melania will pull your greasy weave.
  2. Anonymous[185] •�Disclaimer says:

    Really poor choice of mug shots. A lot of the faces actually look sympathetic, not criminal or menacing.

    •�Replies: @Cindy
    @Anonymous

    How many antidepressants does a person have to be on for his perception of dangerous faces to be this warped?

    Replies: @Ed Case, @Cloudbuster
    , @QCIC
    @Anonymous

    I agree, the people in the mugshots look a bit like actors. I'm not suggesting they are, but the choice of faces is interesting.

    If this is a real ad, has it been pulled yet?

    It seems too on the nose to stand, so maybe it is a trial balloon? Or will they follow up and emphasize the victims were black as well?

    Is there a subtle and potent subtext that Kamala is black and her victims will be black voters and citizens?

    Replies: @Gandydancer
    , @Gandydancer
    @Anonymous


    A lot of the faces actually look sympathetic, not criminal or menacing.
    You are out of your mind.
    , @Jay Fink
    @Anonymous

    Yeah they look more cleancut and harmless than a random group of men you would see at Walmart.
  3. Yeah, a Willie Horton comparison was the first thing that came to mind. You know the Democrats are going to scream racism.

    So my suggestion is, after they do that, edit the photos to make the perps look a whole lot whiter. Then watch the Democrats complain.

    Then they can edit it to show pictures of the victims, who are all mostly black, as well.

    •�Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Wilkey


    Yeah, a Willie Horton comparison was the first thing that came to mind. You know the Democrats are going to scream racism.
    Let 'em scream. I hope the Great Orange King and his heir apparent Prince JD staple Horton's wanted poster on Kum-ala's forehead on live TV. Maybe do a 3-minute commercial about that OG "gentle giant." No more White cucking.

    Most folks never did know Willie's story. What did the poor sweet dindu do?

    From Wikipedia:

    On October 26, 1974, in Lawrence, Massachusetts, Horton and two accomplices robbed Joseph Fournier, a (White) 17-year-old gas station attendant, and then fatally stabbed Fournier 19 times after he had cooperated by handing over all of the money in the cash register.

    His body was stuffed in a trash can, so his feet were jammed up against his chin. Fournier died from blood loss.[8] Horton was convicted of murder, sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole, and incarcerated at the Northeastern Correctional Center in Massachusetts

    On June 6, 1986, Horton was released as part of a weekend furlough program but did not return. On April 3, 1987, in Oxon Hill, Maryland, Horton twice raped a (White) woman (in her home, after breaking in) after pistol-whipping, stabbing, binding, and gagging her (White) fiancé. He then stole the car belonging to the man he had assaulted.

    snip

    On October 20, Horton was sentenced in Maryland to two consecutive life terms plus 85 years. The sentencing judge, Vincent J. Femia, refused to return Horton to Massachusetts, saying, "I'm not prepared to take the chance that Mr. Horton might again be furloughed or otherwise released. This man should never draw a breath of free air again.

    snip

    Democratic presidential candidate Michael Dukakis was the governor of Massachusetts at the time of Horton's release. While he did not start the furlough program, he had supported it as a method of criminal rehabilitation.

    The state inmate furlough program, originally signed into law by Republican governor Francis Sargent in 1972, excluded convicted first-degree murderers. However, in 1973, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruled that this right extended to first-degree murderers because the law specifically did not exclude them.[10][11]

    The Massachusetts legislature quickly passed a bill prohibiting furloughs for such inmates. However, in 1976, Dukakis vetoed this bill, arguing it would "cut the heart out of efforts at inmate rehabilitation."[12]

    The program remained in effect through the intervening term of Governor Edward J. King, and was abolished during Dukakis's final term of office on April 28, 1988, after Dukakis had decided to run for president. This abolition occurred only after the Lawrence Eagle-Tribune had run 175 stories about the furlough program and won a Pulitzer Prize.
  4. There alot of Negro Fatigue in this “country”. One of these days it will be expressed.

    •�Agree: Dr. Rock, anonymouseperson
    •�Replies: @Wilkey
    @newrouter

    Currently it's being expressed by the fact that one of them is running neck-and-neck to win the presidency.

    Why is America so in love with black leaders? They've never done Africa or the Caribbean any good.

    Replies: @Ennui
    , @Currahee
    @newrouter

    I dunno: the Negro Delusion Bubble is vast, deep, impenetrable.
  5. Thomas Wilder Moseley! Salt of the earth, that one. We used to play squash together at Eton. Destined for great things, I always said.

  6. Looks like an Oriental version of Richard Rameriz. Yep, those Oriental thugs R running amok in Minnesota and they know karate.🥋

  7. And Greg Lewin lol. Straight from Central Casting.

    PS. Right after this tone-deaf Trump ad, YouTube offers me videos about lynching. Hmm.

    •�Thanks: dcthrowback
    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Renard


    Right after this tone-deaf Trump ad, YouTube offers me videos about lynching. Hmm
    YouTube knows you. Are these "lynching" vids crowding out the Emmett Till ones? If that's the case the Trump ad isn't tone deaf, it's just not directed at the likes of you.
  8. OT: One by one, conservative pundits are coming to terms with the fact that the abortion thing is an albatross around conservatism’s neck.

    •�Disagree: Gandydancer
    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Anon

    I read a lot of reader comments at NYT (on certain articles).

    Whenever the election comes up, the commenters bring up abortion. It’s a totally losing plank for Republicans.

    Replies: @epebble, @Colin Wright, @kaganovitch, @Rapparee, @Mr. Anon
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    The abortion debate is lost.
    They said that in 1973. As the ERA was nearing its inevitable ratification.

    Before this "H Pearl Davis" was born. Long before.

    Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @Wilkey
    @Anon

    I have no idea what the best law on abortion is, but the fact that many Republican state legislators immediately went to "Ban all abortions" and "Ban Plan B" and "Women should bear their rapists' babies!" didn't really help matters much.

    Abortion is a bad thing not necessarily just because it kills babies, but because it changes the whole relationship dynamic between men and and women. People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it. Face it: a huge percentage of all people born in the past weren't "planned." Yet most of the people born of those unplanned pregnancies wound up living happy, productive, amazing lives. I've known college professors, lawyers, corporate veeps, ad infinitum who were "unplanned." I've had several friends who decided to keep their unplanned pregnancies, and most of them are still married and the kids are just fine.

    Hell, even a few presidents (for better or worse) were from unplanned pregnancies.

    Pregnancy used to force young man and women to make important, grownup decisions - decisions with extremely important ramifications for this country (see: population bust). But now between birth control and abortion, no one has to do that anymore.

    Being opposed to abortion is a losing issue, though I wish it weren't. But still there are a few things Republicans could do to make it less of a liability than it is.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Peter Akuleyev, @Anonymous, @Corvinus
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Anon


    OT: One by one, conservative pundits are coming to terms with the fact that the abortion thing is an albatross around conservatism’s neck.
    At the national level, yes. At the state and local level, not necessarily.

    Strict anti-abortion laws function as liberal-repellant. They will help keep Red states Red.

    Replies: @Anon, @deep anonymous
    , @Dumbo
    @Anon

    What are "conservatives" conserving, if they can't even "conserve" life? What is "conservative" about a movement with no values whatsoever, except maybe "beating Democrats"?

    Have those people noticed that the white birth rate is on the pits, and it's mostly because of feminism (abortion, pill, sexual freedom, etc)?

    Also, this "H. Pearl Davis" chick is insufferable. Taking advice from her is really dumb. I wouldn't call her a "conservative pundit", just an attention whore with emphasis on whore.

    Anyway, abortionists are stupid.

    Replies: @Anon
    , @Gandydancer
    @Anon


    [Trump] is getting nothing for it from pro-lifers and it will probably cost the GOP everything.
    Probably not. And not reading Roe into the Constitution is anyway the right thing to do. I say this as someone who is generally pro-abortion (though I'm not remotely a "pro-choice" nutter). We need to get out from under the thumb of the kritarchy and there's no better time than now.
    , @Catdog
    @Anon

    The pro-abortion racist crowd is very insistent on reminding us how bad abortion is for republicans.

    Not clear if their real goal is to try and get more votes for republicans from infanticiders, so that republicans can continue to be worse than useless on the race problem, or if they simply psychopathically calculate that the number of dead brown fetuses will outnumber the dead white fetuses.

    I certainly understand the logic of letting our enemies kill their own children, but nonetheless it is a sickening practice.
  9. anonymous[246] •�Disclaimer says:

    As long as we’re sharing a wonderfully insightful, on so many levels, Trump video, I think it’s fitting and proper to take a trip down memory lane, just to re-edify everyone of the major narcissists, sociopaths, and bad actors of the democrat party who will be desperately attempting to create the exact same reality distortion field with their idiot viewership this election cycle.

    Like old, spent out strippers in a back alley Hesperia strip joint, these sad people have zero shame. They forgot their life plot decades ago…

    •�Thanks: AnotherDad
    •�LOL: Fluesterwitz
    •�Replies: @anonymous
    @anonymous

    I remember back in 2016, early on in the Trump run, I reference this scene below, when I’d tell my liberal friends that they were underestimating Trump. I felt just like that guy watching Rocky on TV. I tried to tell 'em!

    Trump was down in the pits, working his ass off, while Hillary was showing up in public when she felt like it, talkin’ major shit, while planning her win in advance.

    I’ve always maintained that busting your ass, doing more than is reasonably expected of you, can beat experience, and even talent. It can work like magic. I know because I’ve done it. It doesn’t always work. Treachery is powerful too, as we’ve seen, but it works enough to maintain as a strategy, especially since most people, especially liberals, won’t do it. You win by forfeit.

    The problem with most liberals is they don’t know from personal experience the power of busting your ass, since most of them have never done it, so to them, it just… can’t be!!

    I've always maintained that's forever their Achilles heel. They are a silly, lazy people by nature.

    https://youtu.be/pjX20gL-rnc

    Replies: @Currahee
  10. For the video’s freeze frame, they use the one non-black (?) criminal whom Kamala helped bail out, but all the other crooks in the ad are black.

    Steve, you missed a major one at 0:53

    •�Agree: Richard B, Alexander Turok
  11. Anonymous[401] •�Disclaimer says:

    A sign of the End Times.

    “Lawlessness will abound” (Matthew 24:12).

    •�Agree: Gallatin
  12. Off topic: The national debt just reached 35 trillion dollars. It previously hit 34 trillion dollars in January, increasing by a trillion dollars in the last seven months. It is over two trillion dollars higher than 12 months ago. According to Fortune magazine, government spending is crowding out private investment. Private investing is 30% lower than in the year 2000. Also, the dollar has lost 50% of its value since 2000 as the government has been printing up money to cover the deficits.

    The CBO projects that in 2034 the national debt will be 50 trillion dollars and yearly interest payments will be 1.7 trillion dollars. It also projects in 2034 the Social Security trust fund will run out of money, followed by 23% benefit cuts. This will be followed two years later in 2036 by the Medicare trust fund running out of money.

    The number of retired people over 65 will go from 35 million in 2000 to 82 million in 2040. The ratio of workers to retirees will go from 5:1 in 2000 down to only 2.5:1 in 2040.

    •�Replies: @Anon
    @Mark G.


    The number of retired people over 65 will go from 35 million in 2000 to 82 million in 2040. The ratio of workers to retirees will go from 5:1 in 2000 down to only 2.5:1 in 2040.
    More immigration is needed.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter
    , @Anonymous
    @Mark G.


    The national debt just reached 35 trillion dollars. It previously hit 34 trillion dollars in January, increasing by a trillion dollars in the last seven months… The CBO projects that in 2034 the national debt will be 50 trillion dollars and yearly interest payments will be 1.7 trillion dollars.
    Are you being paid in rubles for these posts?? We have an unlimited money supply. To argue otherwise is Russian propaganda.


    http://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5176a02f3ee4b157386c714294b850732f7ff0848704b48161a569573431a6cd.jpg

    , @Colin Wright
    @Mark G.


    'The national debt just reached 35 trillion dollars. It previously hit 34 trillion dollars in January, increasing by a trillion dollars in the last seven months. It is over two trillion dollars higher than 12 months ago. According to Fortune magazine, government spending is crowding out private investment. Private investing is 30% lower than in the year 2000. Also, the dollar has lost 50% of its value since 2000 as the government has been printing up money to cover the deficits.

    The CBO projects that in 2034 the national debt will be 50 trillion dollars and yearly interest payments will be 1.7 trillion dollars. It also projects in 2034 the Social Security trust fund will run out of money, followed by 23% benefit cuts. This will be followed two years later in 2036 by the Medicare trust fund running out of money.

    The number of retired people over 65 will go from 35 million in 2000 to 82 million in 2040. The ratio of workers to retirees will go from 5:1 in 2000 down to only 2.5:1 in 2040.'
    Yeah, but well, like, that's just your opinion, man.
    , @AnotherDad
    @Mark G.


    The ratio of workers to retirees will go from 5:1 in 2000 down to only 2.5:1 in 2040.
    Not if the "BidenHarris Administration" has anything to do with it.
    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Mark G.

    There are a number of issues that ought to be debated between the campaigns, including immigration, border control, health insurance, fentanyl, drug prices, Ukraine, Israel-Palestine, NATO, Iran, climate change, and certainly the deficit. The Big D.

    Britain's new labor government is squealing because they claim that when they checked the books there was a big hole in the National finances, and the government was spending about 6 billion pounds a year of unfunded spending on asylum expenses.

    It would be interesting to know how much the USA Federal government and state governments are spending on making provisions for people seeking asylum, and how much it would cost to implement a program of mass deportations.

    Both campaigns should have their feet held to the fire to explain what they plan to do about the deficit and the aging population.

    Unfortunately most of the mass media are more interested in the horse race aspect of the election as opposed to the alternative policy choices.

    And unfortunately the candidates on both sides seem to be content to behave like 3-year-olds saying my daddy can beat up your daddy.

    There also seems to be a preoccupation with the family backgrounds of the various candidates, rather than asking what they stand for, what policies they support, and what relevant experience they bring to the table.
    , @Pixo
    @Mark G.

    I’d take zero migration policy over a balanced budget.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Mark G., @Corvinus
    , @Anonymous
    @Mark G.

    No worries, the average American has no idea how much a trillion dollars is.

    It would take 31,963 years of continuous counting to count from 1 to a trillion.
  13. Anonymous[128] •�Disclaimer says:

    Steve, you missed a major one at 0:53

    Hey! That’s uncalled for! As a matter of fact, I’m going to alert the Jewish owner of this webzine that he a commenter who is making veiled anti-Semitic references. I’m sure he will be none too pleased to learn of this!

    •�Replies: @International Jew
    @Anonymous

    He'll be none too pleased that they're veiled and not explicit.
  14. @Mark G.
    Off topic: The national debt just reached 35 trillion dollars. It previously hit 34 trillion dollars in January, increasing by a trillion dollars in the last seven months. It is over two trillion dollars higher than 12 months ago. According to Fortune magazine, government spending is crowding out private investment. Private investing is 30% lower than in the year 2000. Also, the dollar has lost 50% of its value since 2000 as the government has been printing up money to cover the deficits.

    The CBO projects that in 2034 the national debt will be 50 trillion dollars and yearly interest payments will be 1.7 trillion dollars. It also projects in 2034 the Social Security trust fund will run out of money, followed by 23% benefit cuts. This will be followed two years later in 2036 by the Medicare trust fund running out of money.

    The number of retired people over 65 will go from 35 million in 2000 to 82 million in 2040. The ratio of workers to retirees will go from 5:1 in 2000 down to only 2.5:1 in 2040.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous, @Colin Wright, @AnotherDad, @Jonathan Mason, @Pixo, @Anonymous

    The number of retired people over 65 will go from 35 million in 2000 to 82 million in 2040. The ratio of workers to retirees will go from 5:1 in 2000 down to only 2.5:1 in 2040.

    More immigration is needed.

    •�LOL: Wade Hampton, bomag
    •�Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @Anon

    More immigration of only net-taxpayers, perhaps, in purely financial terms.

    Otherwise, a statement too general and unqualified to be true or useful.
  15. OT: Joe Biden endorses the Sailer Plan for the Supreme Court:

    Second, we have had term limits for presidents for nearly 75 years. We should have the same for Supreme Court justices. The United States is the only major constitutional democracy that gives lifetime seats to its high court. Term limits would help ensure that the court’s membership changes with some regularity. That would make timing for court nominations more predictable and less arbitrary. It would reduce the chance that any single presidency radically alters the makeup of the court for generations to come. I support a system in which the president would appoint a justice every two years to spend 18 years in active service on the Supreme Court.

    •�Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Elsewhere

    The way to do it is to pick a starting date well out into the future so that you can't figure out which party will be advantaged, such as 2033. And then grandfather in everybody currently on the Supreme Court until they die.

    Replies: @Renard, @Wilkey, @Bernard, @Colin Wright, @Corvinus
    , @AnotherDad
    @Elsewhere

    I'd suggest 17 years and 17 "justices". The most senior retires every year and the President--with Senate approval--appoints a new one every year. (I.e. in normal operation the President never has "his court".) And they must return to the lower courts once the term is up.

    But also that 9 of them are selected by lot for any given petition and separately for any given case. You could even scale up--34, 51, 68 ...

    The idea would be lower their profile. This idea that our republic is bossed around by these two-bit "Philosopher Kings"--and the worst possible people for that job, lawyers--is appalling.


    Most of all the amendment should have specific language that they are empowered only to follow the law, not decide any social or political issue. (That if they want to do so they should run for office.) And that all foreign policy and immigration issues are outside of their bailiwick. And that it is the duty of Congress to impeach and expel any justice rendering a decision that "makes law".

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Erik L, @Curle
    , @Diversity Heretic
    @Elsewhere

    Any federal judicial reform must not be limited to the justices of the Supreme Court, but must also apply to the justices of the courts of appeals and the judges of the district courts. One should also consider retention elections, which many states have, and which make judges and justices run against their record and become more accountable to the people.
    , @Gandydancer
    @Elsewhere

    Biden:

    I support a system in which the president would appoint a justice every two years to spend 18 years in active service on the Supreme Court.
    How is this Constitutional?

    Article. III.
    Section. 1.
    The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.
    Is surpassing 18 years in office somehow bad behavior? Will SCOTUS agree that it is?

    I can see how congress could appoint justices on a regular schedule so as to reduce the impact of doddering old fools, by increasing the number of justices, but that is not the proposal.

    Replies: @Gandydancer
  16. anonymous[289] •�Disclaimer says:

    This is an interesting ad as well, though not about crime as such but Kamela’s views on illegal immigration:

    •�Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
  17. I like everything except the end.

    “Kamala Harris. Failed. Weak. Dangerously Liberal”.

    Why use four words when one word will do?: Dangerous

    Of course the Democrats are going to “Willie Horton it”. We’ll see how that works after 35 years of increased black crime and dysfunction that even law-abiding blacks are sick of..

  18. Anonymous[363] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Mark G.
    Off topic: The national debt just reached 35 trillion dollars. It previously hit 34 trillion dollars in January, increasing by a trillion dollars in the last seven months. It is over two trillion dollars higher than 12 months ago. According to Fortune magazine, government spending is crowding out private investment. Private investing is 30% lower than in the year 2000. Also, the dollar has lost 50% of its value since 2000 as the government has been printing up money to cover the deficits.

    The CBO projects that in 2034 the national debt will be 50 trillion dollars and yearly interest payments will be 1.7 trillion dollars. It also projects in 2034 the Social Security trust fund will run out of money, followed by 23% benefit cuts. This will be followed two years later in 2036 by the Medicare trust fund running out of money.

    The number of retired people over 65 will go from 35 million in 2000 to 82 million in 2040. The ratio of workers to retirees will go from 5:1 in 2000 down to only 2.5:1 in 2040.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous, @Colin Wright, @AnotherDad, @Jonathan Mason, @Pixo, @Anonymous

    The national debt just reached 35 trillion dollars. It previously hit 34 trillion dollars in January, increasing by a trillion dollars in the last seven months… The CBO projects that in 2034 the national debt will be 50 trillion dollars and yearly interest payments will be 1.7 trillion dollars.

    Are you being paid in rubles for these posts?? We have an unlimited money supply. To argue otherwise is Russian propaganda.

    •�LOL: bomag, Liza
  19. @Mark G.
    Off topic: The national debt just reached 35 trillion dollars. It previously hit 34 trillion dollars in January, increasing by a trillion dollars in the last seven months. It is over two trillion dollars higher than 12 months ago. According to Fortune magazine, government spending is crowding out private investment. Private investing is 30% lower than in the year 2000. Also, the dollar has lost 50% of its value since 2000 as the government has been printing up money to cover the deficits.

    The CBO projects that in 2034 the national debt will be 50 trillion dollars and yearly interest payments will be 1.7 trillion dollars. It also projects in 2034 the Social Security trust fund will run out of money, followed by 23% benefit cuts. This will be followed two years later in 2036 by the Medicare trust fund running out of money.

    The number of retired people over 65 will go from 35 million in 2000 to 82 million in 2040. The ratio of workers to retirees will go from 5:1 in 2000 down to only 2.5:1 in 2040.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous, @Colin Wright, @AnotherDad, @Jonathan Mason, @Pixo, @Anonymous

    ‘The national debt just reached 35 trillion dollars. It previously hit 34 trillion dollars in January, increasing by a trillion dollars in the last seven months. It is over two trillion dollars higher than 12 months ago. According to Fortune magazine, government spending is crowding out private investment. Private investing is 30% lower than in the year 2000. Also, the dollar has lost 50% of its value since 2000 as the government has been printing up money to cover the deficits.

    The CBO projects that in 2034 the national debt will be 50 trillion dollars and yearly interest payments will be 1.7 trillion dollars. It also projects in 2034 the Social Security trust fund will run out of money, followed by 23% benefit cuts. This will be followed two years later in 2036 by the Medicare trust fund running out of money.

    The number of retired people over 65 will go from 35 million in 2000 to 82 million in 2040. The ratio of workers to retirees will go from 5:1 in 2000 down to only 2.5:1 in 2040.’

    Yeah, but well, like, that’s just your opinion, man.

  20. In 2020 Harris bailed out violent Antifa rioters.

    In 2024 she slanders the peaceful protesters who heroically oppose genocide.

    •�Agree: Renard
    •�Replies: @Griff
    @John Gruskos

    These ‘genocide’ folks are a mix of the most dishonest, most gullible, and most retarded.
  21. •�Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
    @J.Ross

    The fact that you posted that makes you weird. This is exactly what the Dems are talking about. The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @AnotherDad, @mc23, @Wilkey
    , @mc23
    @J.Ross

    Seeing people saying Trump is Wryd, a Norse or Anglo-Saxon word , conveying a force of fate or destiny.

    With Trump, the word in this sense carries some freight. Love or hate, he's a force of nature. It's palpable since Trumps brush with death.

    https://twitter.com/0xStylo/status/1813042101539447028
  22. >east-asian with pseudo-black braids
    Eight generation of ancestor all cry together, there is no forgiveness, this obligation will not end.

  23. Seems perfectly reasonable, but by 1992 during the first wave of Wokeness, the Media Megaphone had converted this Pulitzer Prize-winning story about Dukakis’s screw-up into proof of Bush’s racism

    When you know that no matter what you do or say the media will call you Hitler, might as well go “full retard.”

    •�Replies: @Redneck Farmer
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    As Wilkey said, show the mostly black victims; though make sure you find ones without a big rap sheet.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @NJ Transit Commuter



    the Media Megaphone had converted this Pulitzer Prize-winning story about Dukakis’s screw-up into proof of Bush’s racism
    When you know that no matter what you do or say the media will call you Hitler, might as well go “full retard.”
    Or full cynic. George Bush's people didn't introduce us to Willie Horton, Al Gore's did.
  24. Gutsy. This can only work if the Trump campaign refuses to apologize.

  25. ‘Seems perfectly reasonable, but by 1992 during the first wave of Wokeness, the Media Megaphone had converted this Pulitzer Prize-winning story about Dukakis’s screw-up into proof of Bush’s racism’

    Bush had displeased Israel. You do the crime, you got to pay the time.

    •�Agree: Renard
    •�Disagree: Gandydancer
  26. The ad might have helped Bush in 1988 since he won handily (426 electoral, 53.4% popular – probably never going to happen again for Republican party). It will be interesting to see how well it will work this time. Trump has already started calling Harris as evil and lunatic. The only way to ratchet it up any further is by using the N word. Mysteriously, nobody is toying with the Birth certificate redux this time, saying she is not a real American etc., I don’t know what happened; did they think it didn’t work on Obama?

    •�Replies: @epebble
    @epebble

    Well, it happened. My ink was barely dry:

    Trump suggests Harris would struggle with world leaders based on her appearance
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-suggests-harris-would-struggle-with-world-leaders-based-on-her-appearance/ar-BB1qVog8

    Now, did he really think we need additional hint? Like: adding that he didn’t want to spell it out but viewers would know what he meant.

    He is starting to feel he may lose. This is the rabies virus spreading. It will consume him.

    Replies: @HA, @Gandydancer
    , @Gandydancer
    @epebble


    The only way to ratchet it up any further is by using the N word.
    Is that you, Tiny Dick? Criticizing Harris for bailing out criminals is racist, now?

    Replies: @epebble
  27. Well, that ad should rankle many a woke prog as I can already hear the cries of racism bellowing through the rafters. These next three months promise to be exceedingly entertaining.

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Pastit


    Well, that ad should rankle many a woke prog…
    Woke progs won’t vote for Trump, ad or no ad.

    It might appeal to a few swing voters.

    Replies: @notbe mk 2
    , @Gandydancer
    @Pastit


    I can already hear the cries of racism bellowing through the rafters.
    Just use your eyes on the epebble post just before yours.
  28. “I approve of this message.”

  29. @NJ Transit Commuter

    Seems perfectly reasonable, but by 1992 during the first wave of Wokeness, the Media Megaphone had converted this Pulitzer Prize-winning story about Dukakis’s screw-up into proof of Bush’s racism
    When you know that no matter what you do or say the media will call you Hitler, might as well go “full retard.”

    Replies: @Redneck Farmer, @Reg Cæsar

    As Wilkey said, show the mostly black victims; though make sure you find ones without a big rap sheet.

  30. On the other hand, she is also known for having kept the innocent locked up, and the guilty beyond their sentences, just to get more cheap labor out of them. (Cui bono?) Thus, she is the personification of anarcho-tyranny.

    As for Steve’s latest Substack question, “What country will win the Olympics?”, we already know who won the 2024 Games– and the 2028:

    Paris was awarded the Games at the 131st IOC Session in Lima, Peru, on 13 September 2017. After multiple withdrawals that left only Paris and Los Angeles in contention, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) approved a process to concurrently award the 2024 and 2028 Summer Olympics to the two remaining candidate cities…

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Summer_Olympics

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Reg Cæsar


    ...we already know who won the 2024 Games– and the 2028...
    No, you only know who lost. First Parisians and then Angelinos.
  31. @NJ Transit Commuter

    Seems perfectly reasonable, but by 1992 during the first wave of Wokeness, the Media Megaphone had converted this Pulitzer Prize-winning story about Dukakis’s screw-up into proof of Bush’s racism
    When you know that no matter what you do or say the media will call you Hitler, might as well go “full retard.”

    Replies: @Redneck Farmer, @Reg Cæsar

    the Media Megaphone had converted this Pulitzer Prize-winning story about Dukakis’s screw-up into proof of Bush’s racism

    When you know that no matter what you do or say the media will call you Hitler, might as well go “full retard.”

    Or full cynic. George Bush’s people didn’t introduce us to Willie Horton, Al Gore’s did.

  32. @Elsewhere
    OT: Joe Biden endorses the Sailer Plan for the Supreme Court:

    Second, we have had term limits for presidents for nearly 75 years. We should have the same for Supreme Court justices. The United States is the only major constitutional democracy that gives lifetime seats to its high court. Term limits would help ensure that the court’s membership changes with some regularity. That would make timing for court nominations more predictable and less arbitrary. It would reduce the chance that any single presidency radically alters the makeup of the court for generations to come. I support a system in which the president would appoint a justice every two years to spend 18 years in active service on the Supreme Court.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AnotherDad, @Diversity Heretic, @Gandydancer

    The way to do it is to pick a starting date well out into the future so that you can’t figure out which party will be advantaged, such as 2033. And then grandfather in everybody currently on the Supreme Court until they die.

    •�Agree: Goddard, Pixo
    •�Replies: @Renard
    @Steve Sailer


    The way to do it is to pick a starting date well out into the future so that you can’t figure out which party will be advantaged
    Oh, I can tell you that right now.

    I can see into the future like that.
    , @Wilkey
    @Steve Sailer


    The way to do it is to pick a starting date well out into the future so that you can’t figure out which party will be advantaged, such as 2033. And then grandfather in everybody currently on the Supreme Court until they die.
    The problem I see with judicial reform is that there will probably be no guarantee that a nominee will get a vote. The Republicans delayed the vote on Antonin Scalia's replacement (thank God) until after the 2016 elections, then rushed the vote when Ginsburg died just before the 2020 election (thank God).

    So if the Senate is held by a party opposite to the president they will always be delaying confirmation votes past the next election. Since the expiration dates of the terms will be scheduled, they will know exactly which justices will be leaving soon.

    But if we're going to do a Supreme Court reform amendment let's do a Congress & Presidential reform amendment, as well. No more lame duck sessions of Congress: no more lame duck presidential pardons or executive actions; no presidential candidates over 70, no Senate candidates over 75, no House candidates over 80; allow states to pass term limits for their delegation; force congressmen to put all of their investments in ETFs and/or schedule their trades months in advance; place strict bans on how much retired politicians and their spouses can earn after leaving office.

    Also, eliminate birthright citizenship. That's not a reform of one of the three branches, but you gotta use whatever leverage you have.
    , @Bernard
    @Steve Sailer


    The way to do it is to pick a starting date well out into the future so that you can’t figure out which party will be advantaged, such as 2033. And then grandfather in everybody currently on the Supreme Court until they die.

    I agree with this method and its ultimate outcome, however it seems impossible to imagine getting the necessary majorities for this, or any proposition, in 2024 America.
    , @Colin Wright
    @Steve Sailer


    'The way to do it is to pick a starting date well out into the future so that you can’t figure out which party will be advantaged, such as 2033. And then grandfather in everybody currently on the Supreme Court until they die.'

    Unless the idea is to somehow appease the Left -- and good luck on that -- I fail to see the need for anything at all.

    Life terms are good. You don't want people who are prey to the latest trend; you want at least some old codgers who remember the way it was back in the day. I don't want a Supreme Court consisting solely of people who were chosen within the last eighteen years; if that were the case now, the oldest member would have been confirmed in 2006.

    One wants, for example, someone who remembers how Reagan's amnesty for illegals didn't work, or what the situation was like before Roe v. Wade, or crime in the Eighties. You don't want a court where no one remembers anything earlier than the Clinton years.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    , @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    The Trump Ad is old news. Tom Cotton brought it up in 2020. And some low information voters will be led to believe that wide swaths of violent darkies were bailed out and caused mayhem. So the appearance is that Kamala unwittingly supported a group (the MFF) that foolishly bailed out a disproportionate number of vibrants in the wake of the Minneapolis protests. But if we dig deeper into numbers (hey, you’re a numbers guy), here is what we find. I thought you prided yourself on data and context.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Freedom_Fund

    —In 2020 and 2021, efforts in Minnesota were made to reduce inequities in the application of bail, but also to seek greater oversight of the Minnesota Freedom Fund. In December 2020, prosecutors in the Minnesota counties of Hennepin and Washington stopped seeking bail for people charged with nonviolent felonies, which the use of bail had disproportionately effect on people of color. In the 2021 Minnesota Legislative Session, some lawmakers proposed legislation to require bail funds to make public the person or organization that posts bail for certain violent crimes, and to prohibit bail funds from posting bail for people charged with violent crimes or had a prior conviction for violent crime.

    By May 2021, the organization had distributed $19 million for more than 900 criminal and immigration bonds. According to then-leader Greg Lewin in 2020, the bail fund "do not make determinations of bail support based on the crimes that individuals are alleged to have committed".[2] Co-executive director Mirella Ceja-Orozco had said that the organization does not "judge whether the person had committed a crime or not because that's what the courts are for". The fund has drawn criticism for some of the people it bailed out.—

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/03/kamala-harris-tweeted-support-bail-fund-money-didnt-just-assist-protestors/

    According to an accounting by the American Bail Coalition, verified by The Fact Checker with a review of Hennepin County jail records, all but three of the 170 people arrested during the protests between May 26 and June 2 were released from jail within a week. Of the 167 released, only 10 had to put up a monetary bond to be released; in most cases, the amounts were nominal, such as $78 or $100. In fact, 92 percent of those arrested had to pay no bail — and 29 percent of those arrested did not face charges. (The American Bail Coalition is a trade group of insurance companies who profit from underwriting bail bonds.

    MFF “definitely got a windfall,” said Jeffrey J. Clayton, executive director of the American Bail Coalition. “The purpose for what they got the money was not there.” Still, there are some instances of MFF assisting people accused of serious crimes.

    Cotton’s claim that “violent rioters” were released with MFF funds has some basis in fact. But we stumble over Cotton’s additional claim that violent rioters were let out of jail to do more damage. MFF did bail out at least two people charged with attempted murder or burglary during the protests. But there is no evidence they committed additional crimes after being released. His spokesman points to a disturbing case that was unconnected to the protests. But that’s not what Cotton tweeted.

    Moreover, it turns out the MFF was only a bit player in the release of people charged during the protests. The vast majority of people — 92 percent — had to pay no bail. So both Cotton and Trump are wrong to suggest that the donations led to the release of many protesters or rioters.

    At the same time, people who sent millions of dollars to MFF to aid peaceful protesters may be surprised to learn their moneys were not needed in the first place, even if they support elimination of the cash-bail system.


    Replies: @Gandydancer
  33. Anonymous[335] •�Disclaimer says:

    Well, it’s now unlisted from his channel, so maybe they’re aware of the optics.

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Anonymous


    Well, [Kamela bailed out criminals ad is] now unlisted from his channel, so maybe they’re aware of the optics.
    Confess -- you never saw it until you saw it here, so you have no idea whether it was "unlisted". And the optics are fine for anyone outside your narrow circle of Trump haters who aren't going to vote for Trump anyway. Like the upgrade from Pence to Vance this ad is a good sign that Trump has gotten more based.
  34. OT — Mike Tyson Mysteries is the funniest TV show ever, ably assisted by then still living Canadian comic Norman MacDonald.

    •�Replies: @Nathan
    @J.Ross

    Mike Tyson Mysteries is never OT. Also proof that, surprisingly, Mike Tyson has an above average IQ.
  35. Ad smacks of racism whether intentional or not. Terrific way to alienate black potential GOP voters.

    Should have had a bunch of black faces/testimonials of prisoners kept beyond the end of their sentences for free labor if they wanted to play the race card.

    Low hanging fruit there. The GOP is perennially the stupid party.

    •�Disagree: Gandydancer
    •�Troll: TWS
    •�Replies: @22pp22
    @anonguy

    I doubt it's going to alienate the tiny proportion of blacks who vote GOP. Winning the black vote has been the Holy Grail of the GOP for as long as I can remember, and Blacks still prefer Lori Lightfoot over Ben Carlson, or, in the UK, Dianne Abbott over Kemi Badenoch. Right-leaning Blacks are vastly more impressive than left-leaning Blacks yet garner little support form their own people.

    Replies: @Anonymous
    , @AceDeuce
    @anonguy


    Terrific way to alienate black potential GOP voters.
    Oh, noes! All five of them?

    Negroes went yuuuge for the Delaware Mummy in 2020, who is White, BTW, over Trump. Against a negro this November, blacks are going to go for Kum-ala like a she was a life-sized bucket of fried chicken, which coincidentally has the same IQ as she does.

    Brilliant plan. If we lick black ass long enough and hard enough, we may bump Trump's black vote total from 8% to 9%. We'll lose many more disgusted/dispirited Whites, and black cheating in the cities on Election (LOL) Day will be unchanged, but hey, we weren't racist.
  36. @Anon
    OT: One by one, conservative pundits are coming to terms with the fact that the abortion thing is an albatross around conservatism's neck.

    https://twitter.com/VDAREJamesK/status/1816601709667356864

    https://twitter.com/pearlythingz/status/1817508945990234607

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey, @Mr. Anon, @Dumbo, @Gandydancer, @Catdog

    I read a lot of reader comments at NYT (on certain articles).

    Whenever the election comes up, the commenters bring up abortion. It’s a totally losing plank for Republicans.

    •�Agree: Etruscan Film Star
    •�Replies: @epebble
    @Frau Katze

    Why do you think so? NYT does not represent Republican viewpoint. I think Republicans have benefited from abortion politics and have achieved as much success as can be achieved. It is time to retire that and pick a new topic to fight. Fortunately, illegal immigration seems red hot and a surefire vote getter among MAGA electorate. This has been done before with other topics. For example, gun rights, tax cuts and deficits are no longer actively debated.

    Replies: @Renard
    , @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    I read a lot of reader comments at NYT (on certain articles).

    Whenever the election comes up, the commenters bring up abortion. It’s a totally losing plank for Republicans.

    Losing among whom? Trump was going to win votes among Times readers?

    You may be right that abortion is a losing plank -- but not because it doesn't win votes from Times readers. They're not going to vote for Trump in any case.

    Replies: @Frau Katze
    , @kaganovitch
    @Frau Katze


    Whenever the election comes up, the commenters bring up abortion. It’s a totally losing plank for Republicans.
    It may well be a losing proposition for Republicans, but reading comments on NY Times articles is hardly dispositive. That's more like Pauline Kael saying, How could Nixon have won? I only know 1 person who voted for him.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Frau Katze, @Anonymous
    , @Rapparee
    @Frau Katze

    Moloch doesn’t have a good long-term track record of giving wins to his devotees. Compare the ongoing contemporary influence of Rome and the prophets of Yahweh to the influence of Carthage and the prophets of Ba’al. Safe to say opposing him always puts one on the winning side in the long run.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Frau Katze

    People who read the New York Times aren't conservatives; they overwhelmingly don't vote for Republicans. Those few who do would never vote for Donald Trump.

    If Donald Trump made a public statement in favor of regular dental hygiene or dogs, there would be comments in the Times advocating the outlawing of tooth brushes and in favor of shooting puppies in the face.
  37. @Pastit
    Well, that ad should rankle many a woke prog as I can already hear the cries of racism bellowing through the rafters. These next three months promise to be exceedingly entertaining.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Gandydancer

    Well, that ad should rankle many a woke prog…

    Woke progs won’t vote for Trump, ad or no ad.

    It might appeal to a few swing voters.

    •�Replies: @notbe mk 2
    @Frau Katze

    except the ad was run a bit too early to be decisive. Likely the Trump people are experimenting with what might stick with the some undecideds looking for a weak spot-rattling woke sprogs doesn't matter, like you said they won't vote for him anyways.

    Replies: @Gandydancer
  38. @Anon
    OT: One by one, conservative pundits are coming to terms with the fact that the abortion thing is an albatross around conservatism's neck.

    https://twitter.com/VDAREJamesK/status/1816601709667356864

    https://twitter.com/pearlythingz/status/1817508945990234607

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey, @Mr. Anon, @Dumbo, @Gandydancer, @Catdog

    The abortion debate is lost.

    They said that in 1973. As the ERA was nearing its inevitable ratification.

    Before this “H Pearl Davis” was born. Long before.

    •�Agree: TWS
    •�Troll: ScarletNumber
    •�Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Reg Cæsar



    The abortion debate is lost.
    They said that in 1973. As the ERA was nearing its inevitable ratification.
    I don't recall that from 1973. I recall outrage at the Supremes hijacking the debate and dictating an outcome. A sense of illegitimacy.

    But in any case, because someone was wrong 50 years ago, has little to do with the question today. My rough take is on abortion itself pro-lifers have made a lot of progress. Lots of people have been moved to think about it and decided it is indeed wrong, icky, disgusting ... and want no part of it. But on the legality question--telling other people they can not have an abortion--the debate, while not "lost", has certainly trended, strongly the other way.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  39. @Mark G.
    Off topic: The national debt just reached 35 trillion dollars. It previously hit 34 trillion dollars in January, increasing by a trillion dollars in the last seven months. It is over two trillion dollars higher than 12 months ago. According to Fortune magazine, government spending is crowding out private investment. Private investing is 30% lower than in the year 2000. Also, the dollar has lost 50% of its value since 2000 as the government has been printing up money to cover the deficits.

    The CBO projects that in 2034 the national debt will be 50 trillion dollars and yearly interest payments will be 1.7 trillion dollars. It also projects in 2034 the Social Security trust fund will run out of money, followed by 23% benefit cuts. This will be followed two years later in 2036 by the Medicare trust fund running out of money.

    The number of retired people over 65 will go from 35 million in 2000 to 82 million in 2040. The ratio of workers to retirees will go from 5:1 in 2000 down to only 2.5:1 in 2040.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous, @Colin Wright, @AnotherDad, @Jonathan Mason, @Pixo, @Anonymous

    The ratio of workers to retirees will go from 5:1 in 2000 down to only 2.5:1 in 2040.

    Not if the “BidenHarris Administration” has anything to do with it.

  40. It’s a great ad, and it tells the truth.

    •�Agree: Gandydancer
  41. @newrouter
    There alot of Negro Fatigue in this "country". One of these days it will be expressed.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Currahee

    Currently it’s being expressed by the fact that one of them is running neck-and-neck to win the presidency.

    Why is America so in love with black leaders? They’ve never done Africa or the Caribbean any good.

    •�Replies: @Ennui
    @Wilkey

    It isn't about blacks, it's never been about blacks, it's about Angloid hubris and internal purges. The real target has always been those stiff-necked whites who would not conform. Those wretches predetermined by God for eternal damnation.

    Blacks are just props, bit players in a morality tale/ Manichean blood and destruction fantasies. This goes back before Jewish rise to power, back before Marx. This goes back to the Puritans.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @mc23
  42. Here’s a couple of places Trump should be reading:

    Attorney General Kamala Harris Was Even Worse Than You Think

    https://www.thebulwark.com/p/kamala-harriss-tenure-as-attorney-general-was-even-worse-than-you-think

    (Trump-hating site who apparently have doubts Kamala too.)

    Yes, Kamala Harris Is Responsible For California’s 31% More Violent Crime And 3x More Homeless

    https://www.public.news/p/yes-kamala-harris-is-responsible

    (Also a site where I doubt the man running it is a Republican. He has a whole series on her.)

    •�Agree: Gallatin
  43. @Elsewhere
    OT: Joe Biden endorses the Sailer Plan for the Supreme Court:

    Second, we have had term limits for presidents for nearly 75 years. We should have the same for Supreme Court justices. The United States is the only major constitutional democracy that gives lifetime seats to its high court. Term limits would help ensure that the court’s membership changes with some regularity. That would make timing for court nominations more predictable and less arbitrary. It would reduce the chance that any single presidency radically alters the makeup of the court for generations to come. I support a system in which the president would appoint a justice every two years to spend 18 years in active service on the Supreme Court.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AnotherDad, @Diversity Heretic, @Gandydancer

    I’d suggest 17 years and 17 “justices”. The most senior retires every year and the President–with Senate approval–appoints a new one every year. (I.e. in normal operation the President never has “his court”.) And they must return to the lower courts once the term is up.

    But also that 9 of them are selected by lot for any given petition and separately for any given case. You could even scale up–34, 51, 68 …

    The idea would be lower their profile. This idea that our republic is bossed around by these two-bit “Philosopher Kings”–and the worst possible people for that job, lawyers–is appalling.

    Most of all the amendment should have specific language that they are empowered only to follow the law, not decide any social or political issue. (That if they want to do so they should run for office.) And that all foreign policy and immigration issues are outside of their bailiwick. And that it is the duty of Congress to impeach and expel any justice rendering a decision that “makes law”.

    •�Replies: @Wilkey
    @AnotherDad


    But also that 9 of them are selected by lot for any given petition and separately for any given case. You could even scale up–34, 51, 68 …
    Somehow I think that the lot would be rigged. Another guaranteed problem with your suggestion is that it would create an extremely unstable Court, with opinions changing randomly based on who is selected to hear which case. Is abortion a Constitutional right today? Can the government enforce the immigration laws today? Is DEI legal today? Shake the Magic 8 Ball and find out! Random selection of judges in the lower tier courts works - somewhat - because their rulings can be appealed to a higher court.

    But your suggestion of 51 Supreme Court justices sounds great, because it would be the number you would have if every state got to appoint a Supreme Court justice, and the president selected one. It's more than a little unnerving that so many of our justices come from a few metro areas - especially New York, Boston & D.C. It's even more unnerving that at one point recently 33% of our justices - and almost 44%, if Obama's nomination of Merrick Garland had proceeded - were from a single ethnic group that is only 2-3% of the US population. Perhaps guaranteed geographic diversity wouldn't be a terrible thing. The bonus is that more Supreme Court justices NOT controlled by the president could help change the dynamics of federal elections.

    Now ask yourself: do you think Congress would give up that much power and turn SCOTUS appointments over to the states? Surely you jest.
    , @Erik L
    @AnotherDad

    This is a good proposal. I think Wilkey's objection could be answered by making the selection based on a publicly available random number. The numbers racket in NYC used the final few digits of the Dow Jones at the end of trading.

    Your final paragraph would be nice but too easy to get around. Who would decide if the court had made a political decision? The courts have had plausible sounding legal reasoning for all their political cases. Who would get the blatantly political ones like the lawfare claims and the close elections with hanging chads?

    How would we handle cases that cross between immigration and other issues?

    How would we assure congress does this impeaching when half the congress would be pleased as punch with any law the supreme court wills into existence?

    Replies: @Gandydancer
    , @Curle
    @AnotherDad

    Your proposal misunderstands the problem. All law is, by necessity, subject to interpretation and there needs to be some end point authority regarding interpretation. The Catholic complaint about Protestantism was that it would result in a plethora of interpretations and they weren’t wrong. It’s one reason we have such variety in interpretations of The Bible in the Protestant world.

    The American judicial system has been further hamstrung by a post-civil war effort at modifying the organizing document of the Union, the constitution, in a way incompatible with the originally agreed structure of that Union that the constitution memorialized. This has rendered much if not most of the document unclear, convoluted and thereby subject to arbitrary application. Greater opacity results in the transfer of power to the seers, the judiciary, who have to peer into the document and extract meaning from it for the purpose of resolving disputes in the here and now.

    The French have been more honest in the way they arranged things. When they found a form of constitutional Republic unsatisfactory they dissolved it and created a new Republic. The US did the same only it sometimes fought a war to change the Union (Civil War) and later pretended it to be an continuance of the prior Republic and at other times the Revolution was effectuated by the courts and the Executive (Roosevelt/New Deal and judicial aftermath). Fiddling with the power of the courts won’t stop an usurper/dictator (Lincoln/Roosevelt) and it is uncertain that those holding power in the US would be willing to put a new constitution before the people for ratification, fearful of the result. The only practical solution is the unsatisfactory one we’ve adopted where every so often the people and their rulers reimagine the past and reinterpret the constitution accordingly.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  44. @Anon
    OT: One by one, conservative pundits are coming to terms with the fact that the abortion thing is an albatross around conservatism's neck.

    https://twitter.com/VDAREJamesK/status/1816601709667356864

    https://twitter.com/pearlythingz/status/1817508945990234607

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey, @Mr. Anon, @Dumbo, @Gandydancer, @Catdog

    I have no idea what the best law on abortion is, but the fact that many Republican state legislators immediately went to “Ban all abortions” and “Ban Plan B” and “Women should bear their rapists’ babies!” didn’t really help matters much.

    Abortion is a bad thing not necessarily just because it kills babies, but because it changes the whole relationship dynamic between men and and women. People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it. Face it: a huge percentage of all people born in the past weren’t “planned.” Yet most of the people born of those unplanned pregnancies wound up living happy, productive, amazing lives. I’ve known college professors, lawyers, corporate veeps, ad infinitum who were “unplanned.” I’ve had several friends who decided to keep their unplanned pregnancies, and most of them are still married and the kids are just fine.

    Hell, even a few presidents (for better or worse) were from unplanned pregnancies.

    Pregnancy used to force young man and women to make important, grownup decisions – decisions with extremely important ramifications for this country (see: population bust). But now between birth control and abortion, no one has to do that anymore.

    Being opposed to abortion is a losing issue, though I wish it weren’t. But still there are a few things Republicans could do to make it less of a liability than it is.

    •�Thanks: AnotherDad
    •�Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Wilkey



    Abortion is a bad thing not necessarily just because it kills babies, but because it changes the whole relationship dynamic between men and and women. People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it. ...

    Pregnancy used to force young man and women to make important, grownup decisions – decisions with extremely important ramifications for this country (see: population bust). But now between birth control and abortion, no one has to do that anymore.
    Great comment Wilkey.

    Sex by nature is important. And the civilized races have evolved both genetically and culturally in ways to support the reproduction of civilization. We are not designed as people to be pump and dumpers, but to be able to bond for the long commitment of raising productive civilized replacement people.

    Again modernity--in so many, many facets--is a huge "environmental shock"--akin the return of the glaciers or the like. And we are now undergoing selection for those, and those nations, who can reproduce civilized people and nations under modern conditions.

    ~

    Sadly, Western nations are failing this test, not because said selection for reproduction in modernity is not proceeding apace in Western nations, but because we've allowed these evil mutants pushing "immigration!", "must have immigration!", "more immigration!" to destroy the West faster than selection is working to rework and save us.

    Replies: @anonymous, @bomag
    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Wilkey

    People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it

    This is exactly why being anti-abortion is a losing issue politically. Are voters going to choose the party offering guilt free sex or the party preaching that only people prepared to take on grown up responsibilities (expensive responsibilities as well) should have sex?

    Replies: @fnn, @Reg Cæsar
    , @Anonymous
    @Wilkey

    “Abortion is a bad thing not necessarily just because it kills babies, but because it changes the whole relationship dynamic between men and and women. People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it.”


    Last night Mayor Pete bragged about this on White Dudes for Kamala:

    "Men are more free when women have access to abortion."
    --Pete Buttigieg

    Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @Corvinus
    @Wilkey

    Thankfully, the GOP presidential nominee—who has the backing of evangelicals—has a firm track record on where he stands on abortion. Oops.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna146601

    Replies: @Colin Wright
  45. @Frau Katze
    @Anon

    I read a lot of reader comments at NYT (on certain articles).

    Whenever the election comes up, the commenters bring up abortion. It’s a totally losing plank for Republicans.

    Replies: @epebble, @Colin Wright, @kaganovitch, @Rapparee, @Mr. Anon

    Why do you think so? NYT does not represent Republican viewpoint. I think Republicans have benefited from abortion politics and have achieved as much success as can be achieved. It is time to retire that and pick a new topic to fight. Fortunately, illegal immigration seems red hot and a surefire vote getter among MAGA electorate. This has been done before with other topics. For example, gun rights, tax cuts and deficits are no longer actively debated.

    •�Replies: @Renard
    @epebble


    I think Republicans have benefited from abortion politics and have achieved as much success as can be achieved. It is time to retire that and pick a new topic to fight.
    Great plan, only you have to get the Dems on board. Hint: they're not getting on board. It's their #1 vote getter.

    Fortunately, illegal immigration seems red hot and a surefire vote getter among MAGA electorate.
    And the trouble here — magats aside — is that Republicans are and have always been open-borders fanatics.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer
  46. @Frau Katze
    @Anon

    I read a lot of reader comments at NYT (on certain articles).

    Whenever the election comes up, the commenters bring up abortion. It’s a totally losing plank for Republicans.

    Replies: @epebble, @Colin Wright, @kaganovitch, @Rapparee, @Mr. Anon

    I read a lot of reader comments at NYT (on certain articles).

    Whenever the election comes up, the commenters bring up abortion. It’s a totally losing plank for Republicans.

    Losing among whom? Trump was going to win votes among Times readers?

    You may be right that abortion is a losing plank — but not because it doesn’t win votes from Times readers. They’re not going to vote for Trump in any case.

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    But the question is why are Times readers committed Dems? I suggest that the abortion issue is a big reason.

    On an article about Harris replacing Biden, about a third of the comments were anti-Harris.

    Yet most will still vote for her and one reason is abortion.

    The Times also ran story about a woman in a non-abortion state: the child she was carrying was doomed: it had a genetic defect that meant it wouldn’t live more than a few weeks.

    In this particular case the doctors also recommended abortion because of some kind of problem with her ability to carry a future pregnancy,

    But the abortion board in her state turned her down. This was clearly an unusual case: with a rare genetic defect and the woman having a problem with the pregnancy. But the Times hunted and found a case like this just to whip up their readers.

    Note that in Canada there is no political party running on an anti-abortion plank. It’s that unpopular.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @TWS, @vinteuil, @mc23, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon
  47. On the topic of Kamala, I just found out she is apparently claiming, albeit to an audience at AIPAC behind closed doors in 2018 that as a young child she and her sister went around Oakland soliciting donations for the Jewish National Fund! It sounds an awful lot like a ridiculous election campaign story like Hilary ducking from snipers but I know nothing of Oakland in the 70s.

    Perhaps more surprising is that some guy at a campaign event challenged Kamala to release the transcript of what she said behind closed doors at an AIPAC event and she did!

    https://theintercept.com/2018/03/07/kamala-harris-israel-aipac

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-aipac-off-the-record_n_5c734f6ae4b06cf6bb27892d

    Interviewer: I could not agree with you more. And so you began by talking about how you received and you were instilled justice from your parents. So I was wondering if you could tell myself, and I’m sure everyone else is wondering, where exactly your support for Israel comes from?

    Harris: Well I grew up, it’s just it was always part of my life. I grew up ― we, and maybe many of you, I don’t know if anyone is still doing this with the vigor with which we would do it, but we would have our little boxes where we were raising money to plant trees for Israel. (Laughs) And we would go around with our box, and you know, I actually never sold Girl Scout cookies, but I raised money to plant trees in Israel. So it was just, it’s always been, it’s always been there. I’ve been to Israel three times, most recently in November of last year. I promised friends and myself that I would go before the end of my first year as a United States Senator, and it is just something that has always been a part of me. I don’t know when it started, it’s almost like saying when did you first realize you loved your family, or love your country, it just was always there. It was always there. But I will also say something that connects to the earlier point that you made. So this weekend, in fact late last night, I got back from Selma, from Alabama. And I was there with a bipartisan delegation of members of Congress to commemorate, not really celebrate, but commemorate the crossing of the Edmund Pettus Bridge, which occurred 53 years ago, and was highlighted because it was a notoriously awful day in what was called Bloody Sunday. Which is when a group of people that were black and white and brown and every color under the rainbow, a group of people that were ministers and rabbis, people of all ages, from all areas of the country, 25,000 in number by the third day that they tried to take that walk across that bridge, who marched together hand in hand to fight for everyone’s civil rights, and in particular the right of African American’s to vote, at that time.

    Of course the JNF forest planting has never been innocent and was used to plant over many ethnically cleansed Palestinian villages and towns Jews didn’t repopulate and even ones they did. There was never any ecological or commercial need to raise money to plant spruce forests in Israel. And indeed is ongoing to this day. It’s really just a way to funnel money to Israel from the diaspora over and above what they already give as I’m sure most of the money is pocketed.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-tree-planting-in-the-negev-sparked-protests-riots-and-a-coalition-crisis

    https://www.architectural-review.com/essays/books/violence-of-planting-in-israel-palestine

    https://www.972mag.com/jnf-germany-palestinians-forests

    https://rogersmovienation.com/2022/08/03/documentary-review-a-jew-searches-for-my-tree-planted-in-israel-in-his-honor-and-finds-guilt-and-regret-instead

    It was also a way to scam diaspora Jews in the infamous trick of having parcels of land where trees are constantly “planted” by American Jewish tourists only to be dug up for it or another tree to be planted by the next sucker.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2000/07/03/world/arboreal-scandal-in-israel-not-all-of-the-trees-planted-there-stay-planted.html

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2000/07/03/famed-saplings-planted-in-israel-lose-ground-to-great-tree-fraud

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    @Altai4

    You want to know about Oakland in the '70s? In 1976 I got a $50 jaywalking ticket from a cycle cop at 19th & Broadway at 6:00 a.m. on a Saturday.

    Replies: @Gandydancer
    , @Greta Handel
    @Altai4

    Politicians who make it to Washington are often this shameless, opportunistic, and degraded.

    You don’t expect Team Red to run with that, do you?
    , @Jack D
    @Altai4

    1st of all, that article was from 2000. There was one isolated incident where a single crew of lazy workers, rather than dig fresh holes for tourists to plant trees, would just tear up yesterday's plantings. This happened ONCE in 100 years. It was not the norm.

    JNF always BOUGHT the land on which it planted trees. Once someone sells you their land you can do any damn thing you want with it. When I hike thru the forest in NE I often see stone fences and the foundations of houses in the woods. A lot of the NE forest is former farmland that has reverted to forest.

    "Forests" in Israel don't look like forests in the Pacific NW. It's a very arid climate. The trees don't grow 250 ft. tall. But they have been able, by planting drought resistant species, to get forests to grow in areas with as little as 10 inches of annual rainfall.

    https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/environment/making-israels-forests-thriveeven-in-the-desert-448670

    https://www.jpost.com//HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?id=334496&w=822&h=537
  48. @Frau Katze
    @Anon

    I read a lot of reader comments at NYT (on certain articles).

    Whenever the election comes up, the commenters bring up abortion. It’s a totally losing plank for Republicans.

    Replies: @epebble, @Colin Wright, @kaganovitch, @Rapparee, @Mr. Anon

    Whenever the election comes up, the commenters bring up abortion. It’s a totally losing plank for Republicans.

    It may well be a losing proposition for Republicans, but reading comments on NY Times articles is hardly dispositive. That’s more like Pauline Kael saying, How could Nixon have won? I only know 1 person who voted for him.

    •�Replies: @Wokechoke
    @kaganovitch

    Wasn’t she joking though?

    Replies: @Gandydancer
    , @Frau Katze
    @kaganovitch

    See my lengthy reply to Colin Wright.
    , @Anonymous
    @kaganovitch

    It's not that ideological liberals would be on the fence otherwise, moreso that abortion access motivates more of them to show up and vote and get normies to vote also than banning abortion does for the right. Abortion rights : Dems :: immigration restriction : Republicans
  49. Your freedom of speech is in good hands, maan…

  50. OT — It doesn’t work, but we persist.

  51. @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    The abortion debate is lost.
    They said that in 1973. As the ERA was nearing its inevitable ratification.

    Before this "H Pearl Davis" was born. Long before.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    The abortion debate is lost.

    They said that in 1973. As the ERA was nearing its inevitable ratification.

    I don’t recall that from 1973. I recall outrage at the Supremes hijacking the debate and dictating an outcome. A sense of illegitimacy.

    But in any case, because someone was wrong 50 years ago, has little to do with the question today. My rough take is on abortion itself pro-lifers have made a lot of progress. Lots of people have been moved to think about it and decided it is indeed wrong, icky, disgusting … and want no part of it. But on the legality question–telling other people they can not have an abortion–the debate, while not “lost”, has certainly trended, strongly the other way.

    •�Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    But on the legality question–telling other people they can not have an abortion–the debate, while not “lost”, has certainly trended, strongly the other way.
    Telling people they cannot skip out on child support is as popular as ever. And what is an abortion, if not the ultimate such skipping-out? As with many other issues, the mistake is in framing it as a matter of rights rather than of duties.

    Note that many of the same "pro-choice" legislators have been pushing, or at least voting, to add women to the Selective Service registry. Their respect for women's bodily autonomy is rather suspect.

    Replies: @deep anonymous
  52. There is a yin/yang deal to reproductive dynamics.

    At the conscious level, there is much anti natalism. Another mouth to feed, diaper to change. However, this is countered by powerful sexual desire.

    So rationally, there is much appeal to birth control, abortion, controlling pregnancy. And in an era where kids dont help on the farm or otherwise contribute to family wealth, the rational incentives for kids are reduced.

    Until kids are once again familial assets rather than liabilities, abortion will have broad societal support.

    That is the only way to combat abortion. Make having kids pay. Ethical appeals will only go so far and it won’t be far enough.

    Sad but true.

    •�Replies: @AnotherDad
    @anonguy


    That is the only way to combat abortion. Make having kids pay. Ethical appeals will only go so far and it won’t be far enough.
    Taking "combat abortion" as "higher fertility", I do not believe this is the case.

    I definitely support having a huge child deduction. A deduction--not a credit--as I'm looking to boost eugenic fertility, fertility from smart healthy productive normies who would like to have more children, but are discouraged by costs.

    However, I think the evidence suggests that economic incentives really are not the driver. Obviously there are incentives--ex. 100% tax on singles/childless--that mathematically will work. But the more typical incentives that have been tried various places do not tend to move the needle much.

    Rather it is a cultural/emotional thing. People they like children and when their culture says "kids are great!" So kaganovitch--Yeshiva Orthodox--has a few dozen grandchildren with more to come, while I--American secular--have (currently) zero. (Though AnotherDaughter and AnotherSonInLaw are fixing up the kitchen this summer and "thinking about it".)

    Again ... selection. All over the civilized world there is heavy selection for "breeders"--personality and culture--going on. The problem we have in the West is this is being swamped by the immivasion.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @RadicalCenter, @Bernard, @scrivener3
  53. @Wilkey
    Yeah, a Willie Horton comparison was the first thing that came to mind. You know the Democrats are going to scream racism.

    So my suggestion is, after they do that, edit the photos to make the perps look a whole lot whiter. Then watch the Democrats complain.

    Then they can edit it to show pictures of the victims, who are all mostly black, as well.

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    Yeah, a Willie Horton comparison was the first thing that came to mind. You know the Democrats are going to scream racism.

    Let ’em scream. I hope the Great Orange King and his heir apparent Prince JD staple Horton’s wanted poster on Kum-ala’s forehead on live TV. Maybe do a 3-minute commercial about that OG “gentle giant.” No more White cucking.

    Most folks never did know Willie’s story. What did the poor sweet dindu do?

    From Wikipedia:

    On October 26, 1974, in Lawrence, Massachusetts, Horton and two accomplices robbed Joseph Fournier, a (White) 17-year-old gas station attendant, and then fatally stabbed Fournier 19 times after he had cooperated by handing over all of the money in the cash register.

    His body was stuffed in a trash can, so his feet were jammed up against his chin. Fournier died from blood loss.[8] Horton was convicted of murder, sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole, and incarcerated at the Northeastern Correctional Center in Massachusetts

    On June 6, 1986, Horton was released as part of a weekend furlough program but did not return. On April 3, 1987, in Oxon Hill, Maryland, Horton twice raped a (White) woman (in her home, after breaking in) after pistol-whipping, stabbing, binding, and gagging her (White) fiancé. He then stole the car belonging to the man he had assaulted.

    snip

    On October 20, Horton was sentenced in Maryland to two consecutive life terms plus 85 years. The sentencing judge, Vincent J. Femia, refused to return Horton to Massachusetts, saying, “I’m not prepared to take the chance that Mr. Horton might again be furloughed or otherwise released. This man should never draw a breath of free air again.

    snip

    Democratic presidential candidate Michael Dukakis was the governor of Massachusetts at the time of Horton’s release. While he did not start the furlough program, he had supported it as a method of criminal rehabilitation.

    The state inmate furlough program, originally signed into law by Republican governor Francis Sargent in 1972, excluded convicted first-degree murderers. However, in 1973, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruled that this right extended to first-degree murderers because the law specifically did not exclude them.[10][11]

    The Massachusetts legislature quickly passed a bill prohibiting furloughs for such inmates. However, in 1976, Dukakis vetoed this bill, arguing it would “cut the heart out of efforts at inmate rehabilitation.“[12]

    The program remained in effect through the intervening term of Governor Edward J. King, and was abolished during Dukakis’s final term of office on April 28, 1988, after Dukakis had decided to run for president. This abolition occurred only after the Lawrence Eagle-Tribune had run 175 stories about the furlough program and won a Pulitzer Prize.

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  54. @Wilkey
    @Anon

    I have no idea what the best law on abortion is, but the fact that many Republican state legislators immediately went to "Ban all abortions" and "Ban Plan B" and "Women should bear their rapists' babies!" didn't really help matters much.

    Abortion is a bad thing not necessarily just because it kills babies, but because it changes the whole relationship dynamic between men and and women. People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it. Face it: a huge percentage of all people born in the past weren't "planned." Yet most of the people born of those unplanned pregnancies wound up living happy, productive, amazing lives. I've known college professors, lawyers, corporate veeps, ad infinitum who were "unplanned." I've had several friends who decided to keep their unplanned pregnancies, and most of them are still married and the kids are just fine.

    Hell, even a few presidents (for better or worse) were from unplanned pregnancies.

    Pregnancy used to force young man and women to make important, grownup decisions - decisions with extremely important ramifications for this country (see: population bust). But now between birth control and abortion, no one has to do that anymore.

    Being opposed to abortion is a losing issue, though I wish it weren't. But still there are a few things Republicans could do to make it less of a liability than it is.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Peter Akuleyev, @Anonymous, @Corvinus

    Abortion is a bad thing not necessarily just because it kills babies, but because it changes the whole relationship dynamic between men and and women. People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it. …

    Pregnancy used to force young man and women to make important, grownup decisions – decisions with extremely important ramifications for this country (see: population bust). But now between birth control and abortion, no one has to do that anymore.

    Great comment Wilkey.

    Sex by nature is important. And the civilized races have evolved both genetically and culturally in ways to support the reproduction of civilization. We are not designed as people to be pump and dumpers, but to be able to bond for the long commitment of raising productive civilized replacement people.

    Again modernity–in so many, many facets–is a huge “environmental shock”–akin the return of the glaciers or the like. And we are now undergoing selection for those, and those nations, who can reproduce civilized people and nations under modern conditions.

    ~

    Sadly, Western nations are failing this test, not because said selection for reproduction in modernity is not proceeding apace in Western nations, but because we’ve allowed these evil mutants pushing “immigration!”, “must have immigration!”, “more immigration!” to destroy the West faster than selection is working to rework and save us.

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    @AnotherDad


    Sex by nature is important. And the civilized races have evolved both genetically and culturally in ways to support the reproduction of civilization. We are not designed as people to be pump and dumpers, but to be able to bond for the long commitment of raising productive civilized replacement people.
    Since I never got married, I dated a lot of women, a number of them shared their abortion experience with me, and I’ve discovered a nasty little secret the pro-abortionists will never address, and that’s botched legal abortions.

    Abortions aren’t a simple procedure. It takes a lot out of a woman psychologically, some never get over it, if the doctor fucks up, the girl will be sterile the rest of her life, and "qualified" doctors, by the telling to me by women who've had legal abortions, fuck up a lot more than pro-abortionists would have women believe.

    If I were a girl who got pregnant, didn’t want the baby, but wanted to have them in the future, no fucking WAY would I elect to abort the baby. It’s FAR safer to just have the baby and put it up for adoption.

    For myself, as a man, I’m absolutely FOR abortion, since it keeps the miscreant and hopeless population down, and it makes life FAR easier, and cheaper, for me. But if I were female… no fucking way!

    I’ve always said the most formidable obstacle for women achieving their dream life is other women. Women should quit listening to each other's stupid, crazy shit. Women trusting women will always be their downfall.

    Replies: @Anon, @Jonathan Mason
    , @bomag
    @AnotherDad


    And we are now undergoing selection for those, and those nations, who can reproduce civilized people and nations under modern conditions.
    Apt comment, but I'm wondering about the staying power of high civilization. It is prone to rise and fall; will we always be able to rise yet again?
  55. Well, it’s about something. That’s good. And something visceral. That’s even better.

    The problem is it’s about bail. Which is something you are entitled to. It’s right there in the 8th Amendment to the Constitution: “Excessive bail shall not be required.” So some judge decided these criminals were bailable … and the mau-mauing minoritarians were merely making sure there was no “income discrimination” or something.

    More disgusting was the Parasite Party’s whole encouragement of riot–“You should be really mad! Covid has been suspended … just for you to go out and riot!”–after the George Floyd OD. Whip up riot and disorder in support of a lie.

    But what the election should be most about is the far, far, far more destructive “Open Border Tsar Kamala Harris’s” open border. Unfortunately the real destruction isn’t captured in mug shots. It’s in the destruction of “Affordable Family Formation” for young Americans, and long term simply the destruction of the American nation, who we are.

    It’s a harder ad to make, but Trump needs to find people who can make it. And get the American people–the persuadable ones–to see that the “Biden Harris Administration” is a treasonous cabal waging war upon the American people and our posterity.

    •�Replies: @Griff
    @AnotherDad

    Could not agreee more, but just as bad are abortion bans in terms of increasing the supply of low human capital, reducing affordable family formation, etc
    , @TWS
    @AnotherDad

    Nobody, nobody, not your spouse, not your child, not your mother is required to post your bail. Harris decided in her own little chicken brain to post bail and to encourage others to post bail for Dirtbags.

    Now everyone else who posted bail for those spiteful mutants owns everything they did while on bail and what they did afterwards reflects on them forever.
    , @Gandydancer
    @AnotherDad


    The problem is it’s about bail. Which is something you are entitled to. It’s right there in the 8th Amendment to the Constitution: “Excessive bail shall not be required.” So some judge decided these criminals were bailable … and the mau-mauing minoritarians were merely making sure there was no “income discrimination” or something.
    But the ad is about people who apparently weren't actually bailable, and about Harris undermining whatever functionality bail has. Yes, the former is maybe the fault of judges, but the latter is entirely Harris' faulkt. If it's not the bailee's money the the necessity of providing it has no purchase on the individual being bailed out.

    Anyway, the Constitution doesn't determine what your actual rights are. It's an attempt to write them down, but if it's not working -- and here Harris was interfering with what is in any case a poorly functioning system -- it is best to remember: "The Constitution is not a suicide pact."
    , @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    The bail system worked just fine for the last 200 years. The judge makes a balanced decision about how much bail should be required given the severity of the alleged crime, the likelihood that the defendant will not flee or will reoffend pending trial, etc.

    If your mama has posted her house as collateral for your bail, you are more likely to show up because if you don't then she will lose her house. If you are such a lowlife that you have no friends or relatives who are willing to post bail for you even though it is not a large amount, then this is a sign that your are rootless and probably should be kept in jail until your trial because you will just disappear if they let you go.

    When some Leftist organization posts your bail for you, this completely upsets this carefully worked out balance and people who should not have been allowed to go free go free and commit crimes.

    No one is saying that bail, which is your Constitutional right, should never be granted (although sometimes it is not granted ) but the Founders did not contemplate a situation where rich Leftists in coalition with lowlifes would undermine their carefully balanced framework. This is true of a lot of things in our society. My father used to say "a lock is for an honest man", meaning that someone with malicious intent could defeat any lock. I think you can also say "a Constitution is for an honest man" for the same reason.
  56. @anonguy
    There is a yin/yang deal to reproductive dynamics.

    At the conscious level, there is much anti natalism. Another mouth to feed, diaper to change. However, this is countered by powerful sexual desire.

    So rationally, there is much appeal to birth control, abortion, controlling pregnancy. And in an era where kids dont help on the farm or otherwise contribute to family wealth, the rational incentives for kids are reduced.

    Until kids are once again familial assets rather than liabilities, abortion will have broad societal support.

    That is the only way to combat abortion. Make having kids pay. Ethical appeals will only go so far and it won’t be far enough.

    Sad but true.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    That is the only way to combat abortion. Make having kids pay. Ethical appeals will only go so far and it won’t be far enough.

    Taking “combat abortion” as “higher fertility”, I do not believe this is the case.

    I definitely support having a huge child deduction. A deduction–not a credit–as I’m looking to boost eugenic fertility, fertility from smart healthy productive normies who would like to have more children, but are discouraged by costs.

    However, I think the evidence suggests that economic incentives really are not the driver. Obviously there are incentives–ex. 100% tax on singles/childless–that mathematically will work. But the more typical incentives that have been tried various places do not tend to move the needle much.

    Rather it is a cultural/emotional thing. People they like children and when their culture says “kids are great!” So kaganovitch–Yeshiva Orthodox–has a few dozen grandchildren with more to come, while I–American secular–have (currently) zero. (Though AnotherDaughter and AnotherSonInLaw are fixing up the kitchen this summer and “thinking about it”.)

    Again … selection. All over the civilized world there is heavy selection for “breeders”–personality and culture–going on. The problem we have in the West is this is being swamped by the immivasion.

    •�Replies: @RadicalCenter
    @AnotherDad

    Excellent points.

    I’d just correct one point: if you want eugenic breeding, you want not a deduction but a child tax CREDIT.

    For one thing, at higher household incomes, itemized deductions get gradually phased out and then eliminated.

    What you mean to say, I think, is that we don’t want a so-called “Refundable” child tax credit — doublespeak if I ever heard it. That is, we don’t want a child tax credit that can lead to people getting “back” from the IRS more than they paid in federal income tax in the first place, as the Dems always favor. The earned income tax credit should not be “refundable” either.
    , @RadicalCenter
    @AnotherDad

    How about a lifetime exemption from federal income tax for people who:

    (1) actually have and pay some federal income tax liability every year for at least ten consecutive years, after accounting for any “refundable” tax credits,

    And

    (2) have at least four or five natural (not adopted) children

    And

    (3) remain married during that same ten-year period.

    For this purpose, merely paying Social Security or Medicare taxes would not count. The couple must pay federal income tax that’s not (allegedly) meant to pay their own retirement benefits or elder medical care.

    Then again, we could probably expect any drastic financial/tax incentive for big families to lead to an even faster increase in the population of small but booming religious sects in the USA than we already see. For example:

    Amish,
    traditional rural Mormons (as most Mormons don’t have many kids any more),
    observant Muslims,
    and insane inbred ultraorthodox and Hasidic jews.

    Replies: @kaganovitch
    , @Bernard
    @AnotherDad


    So kaganovitch–Yeshiva Orthodox–has a few dozen grandchildren with more to come, while I–American secular–have (currently) zero. (Though AnotherDaughter and AnotherSonInLaw are fixing up the kitchen this summer and “thinking about it”.)
    Good luck with that Dad, I know it’s important to you, I wish you well.
    , @scrivener3
    @AnotherDad


    In Sweden, pregnant women and new mothers are entitled to various benefits to support them during this period. Here are some key aspects:

    Pregnancy Benefit: Insured women can receive 25%, 50%, 75%, or 100% of their work income during pregnancy, up to a maximum amount.
    Maternity Leave: Sweden offers one of the most generous maternity leave policies globally, providing up to 480 days of leave. For joint leave, each parent has the right to 240 days, with 90 days reserved for each parent and the remaining days transferable.
    Flexibility: Parents can choose to work part-time and claim partial benefits for the remaining time off, as outlined in the “Part-Time Leave Options” table.
    Duration: The standard maternity leave duration is 16 weeks, but parents can take up to 480 days, including 60 days of parental leave that can be taken until the child is 12 years old.
    Eligibility: To receive parental benefits, parents must be covered by social insurance in Sweden and have a child residing in Sweden, or living in the EU/EEA or Switzerland.
    According to the provided search results, the birth rate in Sweden has been declining over the years. Here are some key points:

    In 2023, the total fertility rate (TFR) in Sweden fell to 1,449 children per 1,000 women, the lowest since measurements began in 1749 (Source: Xinhua).
    The crude birth rate in Sweden was at its lowest point for several years in 2022 (Source: Statistics Sweden).
    The fertility rate for Sweden in 2021 was 1.846 births per woman, a 0.05% decline from 2020 (Source: unknown).
    The fertility rate for Sweden in 2022 was 1.844 births per woman, a 0.11% decline from 2021 (Source: unknown).
    The fertility rate for Sweden in 2023 was 1.843 births per woman, a 0.05% decline from 2022 (Source: unknown).

  57. “The GOP is perennially the stupid party”

    Back in 2001, in a spring-training game, Randy Johnson hit an unlucky dove with a fastball at the exact moment it flew crosswise in front of the batter’s box. Well, the umpires conferred, and decided that, although the rulebook was silent on this specifically, they could invoke the rule that granted them the right to use “common sense.” (They then ruled it a no-pitch.)

  58. I thought it was an effective advertisement.

    If I had to provide advice to Donald Trump, I’d strongly recommend resurrecting the 1988 Lee Atwater playbook. Portray Kamala Harris as a liberal who has ‘far left’ views on crime, welfare, immigration, taxes, etc. It’s a strategy that likely will resonate with working-class ‘Reagan Democrats’ in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

    Don’t talk about Covid, abortion, feminism, or socialism.

    Personally, I think Kamala Harris is lazy and incompetent. That’s why she was sidelined during the last few years, especially after her MANY disastrous public performances. She’s a weak candidate. Under any sustained & focused barrage of attacks on her statements, she’ll collapse quickly.

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  59. @anonguy
    Ad smacks of racism whether intentional or not. Terrific way to alienate black potential GOP voters.

    Should have had a bunch of black faces/testimonials of prisoners kept beyond the end of their sentences for free labor if they wanted to play the race card.

    Low hanging fruit there. The GOP is perennially the stupid party.

    Replies: @22pp22, @AceDeuce

    I doubt it’s going to alienate the tiny proportion of blacks who vote GOP. Winning the black vote has been the Holy Grail of the GOP for as long as I can remember, and Blacks still prefer Lori Lightfoot over Ben Carlson, or, in the UK, Dianne Abbott over Kemi Badenoch. Right-leaning Blacks are vastly more impressive than left-leaning Blacks yet garner little support form their own people.

    •�Agree: 36 ulster
    •�Replies: @Anonymous
    @22pp22


    I doubt it’s going to alienate the tiny proportion of blacks who vote GOP. Winning the black vote has been the Holy Grail of the GOP for as long as I can remember, and Blacks still prefer Lori Lightfoot over Ben Carlson, or, in the UK, Dianne Abbott over Kemi Badenoch. Right-leaning Blacks are vastly more impressive than left-leaning Blacks yet garner little support form their own people.
    Along those lines, you may be unaware of how much many black men are not huge fans of black women. Have you noticed many successful black men can tend to not marry them? That's because they know their own people.

    Ironically, the harder Kamala tries to affect a "black" attitude to appease alleged black voters, and she will, the more black men will despise her. Kamala will self-destruct, and it won’t take much to accelerate the process, since a lot of black men hate her already.

    https://twitter.com/DogRightGirl/status/1817743558616695252

    Also, if you intend to have a relevant opinion, you have to keep up with the tech these days. Black folks are on Zoom now, and they’re good at it. That wasn’t true last election.

    It matters for this one:

    https://youtu.be/Ka1BDMRWfLU

    Replies: @Wokechoke
  60. Seems perfectly reasonable, but by 1992 during the first wave of Wokeness, the Media Megaphone had converted this Pulitzer Prize-winning story about Dukakis’s screw-up into proof of Bush’s racism

    Wasn’t no Interweb. No Elon Musk’s Twatter 2.0 (AKA “X”), or anything else.

    No smartphones to take pictures/video with.

    No cop bodycams (which didn’t work out the way libs thought-I was going to add “or blacks thought”, but they don’t think.)

    Barely any conservative media. Limbaugh had just begun going national. There’s much I never liked, about him, from the get go (disappointed is more like it), but he needs to be in the Redpill Hall of Fame nevertheless. He was the tricycle that many clueless Whites learned to ride to go and get half a clue.

    Most under-30 Whites in 1992, and many under 40s were suburban snowflakes. Their evil racist parents/grandparents fled the cities, so their ungrateful, clueless spawn could have a good life.

    Blacks stayed the same. No big trick. What’s 32 years? They haven’t changed in thousands of years. Now they’re in every state, city, town, ‘burb, workplace, school, etc. working their usual magic. No escape; no respite. People are finally waking up. A little. Way too late.

    Poor/working class Boomers were the last ones that had to deal with negroes in close proximity. No one cared. I know. I was one.

    Any of you call a black the dreaded “N-word” to his face? I have. A few times.

    Any of you fight, and both punch and get punched by a black? I have. A few times.

    Had heated arguments with blacks? I have. Many.

    Any of you get violently mugged by a black? I was, at 14.

    Be in a class in school that was mostly black? I have. Work in a majority black workplace? I did. Have family/friends/neighbors victimized by blacks? I have. Live with a black? I did-not by choice, both in and out of the military.

    •�Replies: @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    @AceDeuce

    Around blacks, never relax.
    I'm sure you found that out, in spades (hehe).
    , @anonymous
    @AceDeuce


    What’s 32 years? They haven’t changed in thousands of years.
    You know what? They actually have changed. It used to be they (for the most part) cared what YT thought of them. They made an effort to suppress their instincts - felt bad when a public display of their base nature occurred. That changed somewhere in the '90's. I actually think Maxine Waters had something to do with this change. I've been beat up by blacks 8 times.
    , @Colin Wright
    @AceDeuce


    '...Any of you call a black the dreaded “N-word” to his face? I have. A few times.

    Any of you fight, and both punch and get punched by a black? I have. A few times.

    Had heated arguments with blacks? I have. Many.

    Any of you get violently mugged by a black? I was, at 14.

    Be in a class in school that was mostly black? I have. Work in a majority black workplace? I did. Have family/friends/neighbors victimized by blacks? I have. Live with a black? I did-not by choice, both in and out of the military.'
    In my case, close enough.
  61. @Anon
    @Mark G.


    The number of retired people over 65 will go from 35 million in 2000 to 82 million in 2040. The ratio of workers to retirees will go from 5:1 in 2000 down to only 2.5:1 in 2040.
    More immigration is needed.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter

    More immigration of only net-taxpayers, perhaps, in purely financial terms.

    Otherwise, a statement too general and unqualified to be true or useful.

  62. @AnotherDad
    @anonguy


    That is the only way to combat abortion. Make having kids pay. Ethical appeals will only go so far and it won’t be far enough.
    Taking "combat abortion" as "higher fertility", I do not believe this is the case.

    I definitely support having a huge child deduction. A deduction--not a credit--as I'm looking to boost eugenic fertility, fertility from smart healthy productive normies who would like to have more children, but are discouraged by costs.

    However, I think the evidence suggests that economic incentives really are not the driver. Obviously there are incentives--ex. 100% tax on singles/childless--that mathematically will work. But the more typical incentives that have been tried various places do not tend to move the needle much.

    Rather it is a cultural/emotional thing. People they like children and when their culture says "kids are great!" So kaganovitch--Yeshiva Orthodox--has a few dozen grandchildren with more to come, while I--American secular--have (currently) zero. (Though AnotherDaughter and AnotherSonInLaw are fixing up the kitchen this summer and "thinking about it".)

    Again ... selection. All over the civilized world there is heavy selection for "breeders"--personality and culture--going on. The problem we have in the West is this is being swamped by the immivasion.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @RadicalCenter, @Bernard, @scrivener3

    Excellent points.

    I’d just correct one point: if you want eugenic breeding, you want not a deduction but a child tax CREDIT.

    For one thing, at higher household incomes, itemized deductions get gradually phased out and then eliminated.

    What you mean to say, I think, is that we don’t want a so-called “Refundable” child tax credit — doublespeak if I ever heard it. That is, we don’t want a child tax credit that can lead to people getting “back” from the IRS more than they paid in federal income tax in the first place, as the Dems always favor. The earned income tax credit should not be “refundable” either.

  63. @anonguy
    Ad smacks of racism whether intentional or not. Terrific way to alienate black potential GOP voters.

    Should have had a bunch of black faces/testimonials of prisoners kept beyond the end of their sentences for free labor if they wanted to play the race card.

    Low hanging fruit there. The GOP is perennially the stupid party.

    Replies: @22pp22, @AceDeuce

    Terrific way to alienate black potential GOP voters.

    Oh, noes! All five of them?

    Negroes went yuuuge for the Delaware Mummy in 2020, who is White, BTW, over Trump. Against a negro this November, blacks are going to go for Kum-ala like a she was a life-sized bucket of fried chicken, which coincidentally has the same IQ as she does.

    Brilliant plan. If we lick black ass long enough and hard enough, we may bump Trump’s black vote total from 8% to 9%. We’ll lose many more disgusted/dispirited Whites, and black cheating in the cities on Election (LOL) Day will be unchanged, but hey, we weren’t racist.

    •�Agree: Gandydancer
  64. @Steve Sailer
    @Elsewhere

    The way to do it is to pick a starting date well out into the future so that you can't figure out which party will be advantaged, such as 2033. And then grandfather in everybody currently on the Supreme Court until they die.

    Replies: @Renard, @Wilkey, @Bernard, @Colin Wright, @Corvinus

    The way to do it is to pick a starting date well out into the future so that you can’t figure out which party will be advantaged

    Oh, I can tell you that right now.

    I can see into the future like that.

  65. @AnotherDad
    @anonguy


    That is the only way to combat abortion. Make having kids pay. Ethical appeals will only go so far and it won’t be far enough.
    Taking "combat abortion" as "higher fertility", I do not believe this is the case.

    I definitely support having a huge child deduction. A deduction--not a credit--as I'm looking to boost eugenic fertility, fertility from smart healthy productive normies who would like to have more children, but are discouraged by costs.

    However, I think the evidence suggests that economic incentives really are not the driver. Obviously there are incentives--ex. 100% tax on singles/childless--that mathematically will work. But the more typical incentives that have been tried various places do not tend to move the needle much.

    Rather it is a cultural/emotional thing. People they like children and when their culture says "kids are great!" So kaganovitch--Yeshiva Orthodox--has a few dozen grandchildren with more to come, while I--American secular--have (currently) zero. (Though AnotherDaughter and AnotherSonInLaw are fixing up the kitchen this summer and "thinking about it".)

    Again ... selection. All over the civilized world there is heavy selection for "breeders"--personality and culture--going on. The problem we have in the West is this is being swamped by the immivasion.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @RadicalCenter, @Bernard, @scrivener3

    How about a lifetime exemption from federal income tax for people who:

    (1) actually have and pay some federal income tax liability every year for at least ten consecutive years, after accounting for any “refundable” tax credits,

    And

    (2) have at least four or five natural (not adopted) children

    And

    (3) remain married during that same ten-year period.

    For this purpose, merely paying Social Security or Medicare taxes would not count. The couple must pay federal income tax that’s not (allegedly) meant to pay their own retirement benefits or elder medical care.

    Then again, we could probably expect any drastic financial/tax incentive for big families to lead to an even faster increase in the population of small but booming religious sects in the USA than we already see. For example:

    Amish,
    traditional rural Mormons (as most Mormons don’t have many kids any more),
    observant Muslims,
    and insane inbred ultraorthodox and Hasidic jews.

    •�Replies: @kaganovitch
    @RadicalCenter


    and insane inbred ultraorthodox and Hasidic jews.
    Why insane? How inbred?
  66. @epebble
    @Frau Katze

    Why do you think so? NYT does not represent Republican viewpoint. I think Republicans have benefited from abortion politics and have achieved as much success as can be achieved. It is time to retire that and pick a new topic to fight. Fortunately, illegal immigration seems red hot and a surefire vote getter among MAGA electorate. This has been done before with other topics. For example, gun rights, tax cuts and deficits are no longer actively debated.

    Replies: @Renard

    I think Republicans have benefited from abortion politics and have achieved as much success as can be achieved. It is time to retire that and pick a new topic to fight.

    Great plan, only you have to get the Dems on board. Hint: they’re not getting on board. It’s their #1 vote getter.

    Fortunately, illegal immigration seems red hot and a surefire vote getter among MAGA electorate.

    And the trouble here — magats aside — is that Republicans are and have always been open-borders fanatics.

    •�Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Renard

    "Great plan, only you have to get the Dems on board. ..."

    You don't have to make it easy for them by proposing extreme laws with little public support. Very few people oppose abortions when the woman is otherwise likely to die or when the fetus has little chance of survival. If you make such laws the battleground you are going to get killed.
  67. @John Gruskos
    In 2020 Harris bailed out violent Antifa rioters.

    In 2024 she slanders the peaceful protesters who heroically oppose genocide.

    Replies: @Griff

    These ‘genocide’ folks are a mix of the most dishonest, most gullible, and most retarded.

    •�Agree: Gandydancer
    •�Troll: Gordo, TWS
  68. anonymous[319] •�Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    As long as we’re sharing a wonderfully insightful, on so many levels, Trump video, I think it’s fitting and proper to take a trip down memory lane, just to re-edify everyone of the major narcissists, sociopaths, and bad actors of the democrat party who will be desperately attempting to create the exact same reality distortion field with their idiot viewership this election cycle.

    Like old, spent out strippers in a back alley Hesperia strip joint, these sad people have zero shame. They forgot their life plot decades ago…

    https://youtu.be/YZ46I3kMOr0

    Replies: @anonymous

    I remember back in 2016, early on in the Trump run, I reference this scene below, when I’d tell my liberal friends that they were underestimating Trump. I felt just like that guy watching Rocky on TV. I tried to tell ’em!

    Trump was down in the pits, working his ass off, while Hillary was showing up in public when she felt like it, talkin’ major shit, while planning her win in advance.

    I’ve always maintained that busting your ass, doing more than is reasonably expected of you, can beat experience, and even talent. It can work like magic. I know because I’ve done it. It doesn’t always work. Treachery is powerful too, as we’ve seen, but it works enough to maintain as a strategy, especially since most people, especially liberals, won’t do it. You win by forfeit.

    The problem with most liberals is they don’t know from personal experience the power of busting your ass, since most of them have never done it, so to them, it just… can’t be!!

    I’ve always maintained that’s forever their Achilles heel. They are a silly, lazy people by nature.

    •�Agree: AceDeuce
    •�Replies: @Currahee
    @anonymous

    Great scene, Stallone a true artist.
  69. @AnotherDad
    Well, it's about something. That's good. And something visceral. That's even better.

    The problem is it's about bail. Which is something you are entitled to. It's right there in the 8th Amendment to the Constitution: "Excessive bail shall not be required." So some judge decided these criminals were bailable ... and the mau-mauing minoritarians were merely making sure there was no "income discrimination" or something.

    More disgusting was the Parasite Party's whole encouragement of riot--"You should be really mad! Covid has been suspended ... just for you to go out and riot!"--after the George Floyd OD. Whip up riot and disorder in support of a lie.


    But what the election should be most about is the far, far, far more destructive "Open Border Tsar Kamala Harris's" open border. Unfortunately the real destruction isn't captured in mug shots. It's in the destruction of "Affordable Family Formation" for young Americans, and long term simply the destruction of the American nation, who we are.

    It's a harder ad to make, but Trump needs to find people who can make it. And get the American people--the persuadable ones--to see that the "Biden Harris Administration" is a treasonous cabal waging war upon the American people and our posterity.

    Replies: @Griff, @TWS, @Gandydancer, @Jack D

    Could not agreee more, but just as bad are abortion bans in terms of increasing the supply of low human capital, reducing affordable family formation, etc

  70. anonymous[314] •�Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    @Wilkey



    Abortion is a bad thing not necessarily just because it kills babies, but because it changes the whole relationship dynamic between men and and women. People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it. ...

    Pregnancy used to force young man and women to make important, grownup decisions – decisions with extremely important ramifications for this country (see: population bust). But now between birth control and abortion, no one has to do that anymore.
    Great comment Wilkey.

    Sex by nature is important. And the civilized races have evolved both genetically and culturally in ways to support the reproduction of civilization. We are not designed as people to be pump and dumpers, but to be able to bond for the long commitment of raising productive civilized replacement people.

    Again modernity--in so many, many facets--is a huge "environmental shock"--akin the return of the glaciers or the like. And we are now undergoing selection for those, and those nations, who can reproduce civilized people and nations under modern conditions.

    ~

    Sadly, Western nations are failing this test, not because said selection for reproduction in modernity is not proceeding apace in Western nations, but because we've allowed these evil mutants pushing "immigration!", "must have immigration!", "more immigration!" to destroy the West faster than selection is working to rework and save us.

    Replies: @anonymous, @bomag

    Sex by nature is important. And the civilized races have evolved both genetically and culturally in ways to support the reproduction of civilization. We are not designed as people to be pump and dumpers, but to be able to bond for the long commitment of raising productive civilized replacement people.

    Since I never got married, I dated a lot of women, a number of them shared their abortion experience with me, and I’ve discovered a nasty little secret the pro-abortionists will never address, and that’s botched legal abortions.

    Abortions aren’t a simple procedure. It takes a lot out of a woman psychologically, some never get over it, if the doctor fucks up, the girl will be sterile the rest of her life, and “qualified” doctors, by the telling to me by women who’ve had legal abortions, fuck up a lot more than pro-abortionists would have women believe.

    If I were a girl who got pregnant, didn’t want the baby, but wanted to have them in the future, no fucking WAY would I elect to abort the baby. It’s FAR safer to just have the baby and put it up for adoption.

    For myself, as a man, I’m absolutely FOR abortion, since it keeps the miscreant and hopeless population down, and it makes life FAR easier, and cheaper, for me. But if I were female… no fucking way!

    I’ve always said the most formidable obstacle for women achieving their dream life is other women. Women should quit listening to each other’s stupid, crazy shit. Women trusting women will always be their downfall.

    •�Agree: Houston 1992
    •�Replies: @Anon
    @anonymous

    “ Women trusting women will always be their downfall.”

    👀

    1) I suspect pro-abortion women, who are out to convince other women, are really the mouthpieces of men who thought up the abortion system & goals in the first place. I could be wrong on this, but most women naturally are influenced by a stronger male personality, as I think you know. This proliferation of women who identify as “activists”.. men have something to answer for there, too.

    2) Women compete with other women for “good men”, granted. That is why life-long marriage is best for the common good, it channels feminine energy into more fruitful endeavors. Not saying it is for everyone.

    3) Mothers and sisters are there to provide good counsel. And love and laughter, which all aid in achieving right reason.
    , @Jonathan Mason
    @anonymous

    I am about as agnostic as anyone can be on abortion.

    I'm not in favor of it, but I can understand that there are situations where women desperately want to avoid continuing a pregnancy.

    However I don't think you've got it right when you say that continuing pregnancy to term is medically safer than having an abortion.

    This might be applicable in the case of late stage abortions where abnormalities have been discovered, but it is not the case with first trimester abortions which are much safer than continued pregnancies.

    A reasonable law would be to allow first trimester abortions at will, but later abortions should have to be approved by something equivalent to a mental health tribunal but which would be a panel consisting of at least two doctors qualified in ob/gyn and one judge, who were not personally involved in the case.

    In cases of emergency abortions to save the life of the woman the panel would have to consider them retrospectively.

    Replies: @jsm
  71. @Anonymous

    Steve, you missed a major one at 0:53
    Hey! That’s uncalled for! As a matter of fact, I’m going to alert the Jewish owner of this webzine that he a commenter who is making veiled anti-Semitic references. I’m sure he will be none too pleased to learn of this!

    Replies: @International Jew

    He’ll be none too pleased that they’re veiled and not explicit.

  72. Anonymous[531] •�Disclaimer says:
    @22pp22
    @anonguy

    I doubt it's going to alienate the tiny proportion of blacks who vote GOP. Winning the black vote has been the Holy Grail of the GOP for as long as I can remember, and Blacks still prefer Lori Lightfoot over Ben Carlson, or, in the UK, Dianne Abbott over Kemi Badenoch. Right-leaning Blacks are vastly more impressive than left-leaning Blacks yet garner little support form their own people.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I doubt it’s going to alienate the tiny proportion of blacks who vote GOP. Winning the black vote has been the Holy Grail of the GOP for as long as I can remember, and Blacks still prefer Lori Lightfoot over Ben Carlson, or, in the UK, Dianne Abbott over Kemi Badenoch. Right-leaning Blacks are vastly more impressive than left-leaning Blacks yet garner little support form their own people.

    Along those lines, you may be unaware of how much many black men are not huge fans of black women. Have you noticed many successful black men can tend to not marry them? That’s because they know their own people.

    Ironically, the harder Kamala tries to affect a “black” attitude to appease alleged black voters, and she will, the more black men will despise her. Kamala will self-destruct, and it won’t take much to accelerate the process, since a lot of black men hate her already.

    Also, if you intend to have a relevant opinion, you have to keep up with the tech these days. Black folks are on Zoom now, and they’re good at it. That wasn’t true last election.

    It matters for this one:

    •�Replies: @Wokechoke
    @Anonymous

    This is a stupid strategy for Trump. Blacks are a lock in for Democratic votes. Trump needs to mobilise whites. Nothing else will work.

    Replies: @Anonymous
  73. @J.Ross
    https://i.postimg.cc/FRnwB0d9/1722305585463966.png

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @mc23

    The fact that you posted that makes you weird. This is exactly what the Dems are talking about. The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.

    •�Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Peter Akuleyev


    @J. Ross

    The fact that you posted that makes you weird. This is exactly what the Dems are talking about. The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.
    Nonsense. It isn't weird and it isn't "obsessing about other people's sexual preferences* to remind people that the Biden administration went out of it's way to appoint ridiculous, disgusting perverts to responsible positions in the government. It was a big F**k You to regular, square America.

    You are playing into the whole tactic - or perhaps you are a willing partisan of that tactic - to introduce weird, marginal, degenerate topics into the national discourse and then, when called out on it, to whine "why are you being so divisive"?

    Replies: @fnn
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Peter Akuleyev


    ...who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.
    This is about the sartorial preferences of someone working for the US Office of Nuclear Energy. We are, or were, paying "their" salary. Are you saying taxpayers don't have a right to demand a dress code? Or that their public servants be minimally sane?

    Would you trust this individual with spent fuel in your neighborhood?

    Replies: @HA
    , @J.Ross
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Stealing luggage at an airport isn't a private act.
    , @Mike Tre
    @Peter Akuleyev

    You typed three sentences. All three were erroneous. Care to type a forth?
    , @AnotherDad
    @Peter Akuleyev


    The fact that you posted that makes you weird. This is exactly what the Dems are talking about. The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.
    Peter, i don't like looking at J. Ross's post--wish he'd skipped it. But your post is the one that's off base.

    This guy isn't some turnip off in "doing his own thing" in some queer corner of NY or SF. He's someone the Democrats imposed upon us as a public official who loves to advertise his degeneracy.

    I don't know how you're wired, but it annoys me. For greater Germania--of which the Anglo-Sphere is a part--we expect to elect/follow leaders who are strong, healthy, sane, wise, brave--the best among our tribe. We have a visceral dislike of being bossed around by fools, queers, weirdos, weaklings, whiners, mutants, creeps, dumb shits. Nor do we want that shit rubbed in our face.

    America is supposed to be led by George Washington, not Kamala Harris--nor this sort of human garbage that they rub in our face.

    This is just how we are--thanks God! You don't like it or get it fine. Like I've said, we really are at an impasse, where we are separate peoples and belong in separate nations.
    , @mc23
    @Peter Akuleyev

    I don't mind if my leaders wear women's underwear but I demand they acquire it honestly.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    , @Wilkey
    @Peter Akuleyev


    The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.
    It is the Democrats who have spent the last several decades forcing its sexual preferences (in every sense of the word) on everyone else’s children.

    I won’t obsess about anyone else’s sexual preferences if you won’t force me to believe that a biological man is actually a woman (and vice versa), and if you don’t force my young daughters to share a locker room with a woman who has a penis.

    The Left doesn’t care whether or not the tiny human growing inside my wife’s body lives or dies, but it is absolutely adamant that if we choose to let it live that my wife and I should have no say how *our* tax dollars are used to educate *our* children.

    Replies: @Curle
  74. @Wilkey
    @Anon

    I have no idea what the best law on abortion is, but the fact that many Republican state legislators immediately went to "Ban all abortions" and "Ban Plan B" and "Women should bear their rapists' babies!" didn't really help matters much.

    Abortion is a bad thing not necessarily just because it kills babies, but because it changes the whole relationship dynamic between men and and women. People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it. Face it: a huge percentage of all people born in the past weren't "planned." Yet most of the people born of those unplanned pregnancies wound up living happy, productive, amazing lives. I've known college professors, lawyers, corporate veeps, ad infinitum who were "unplanned." I've had several friends who decided to keep their unplanned pregnancies, and most of them are still married and the kids are just fine.

    Hell, even a few presidents (for better or worse) were from unplanned pregnancies.

    Pregnancy used to force young man and women to make important, grownup decisions - decisions with extremely important ramifications for this country (see: population bust). But now between birth control and abortion, no one has to do that anymore.

    Being opposed to abortion is a losing issue, though I wish it weren't. But still there are a few things Republicans could do to make it less of a liability than it is.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Peter Akuleyev, @Anonymous, @Corvinus

    People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it

    This is exactly why being anti-abortion is a losing issue politically. Are voters going to choose the party offering guilt free sex or the party preaching that only people prepared to take on grown up responsibilities (expensive responsibilities as well) should have sex?

    •�Replies: @fnn
    @Peter Akuleyev

    But the Democrats can offer the promise of nuclear war with Russia and no one seems bothered. The level of pro-war hysteria is way down in the US, but the Brits continue to be excited. Nothing gets them going like a good war.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Frau Katze
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Peter Akuleyev


    This is exactly why being anti-abortion is a losing issue politically.

    "This is exactly why [reining in the welfare state] is a losing issue politically."

    Are voters going to choose the party offering guilt free sex or the party preaching that only people prepared to take on grown up responsibilities (expensive responsibilities as well) should have sex?
    "Are voters going to choose the party offering [work-] free [benefits] or the party preaching that only people prepared to take on grown up responsibilities (expensive responsibilities as well) should have [a safety net]?"

    You could repeat this for all kinds of issues. LBJ beats Goldwater every time. It's two wolves and a sheep voting for breakfast. A 19th-century Frenchman said once the gates to the treasury have been breached, they can only be closed again with gunpowder.

    Note that the 55-year-old pro-life movement has always been female-dominated, and any greater support for elective abortion among women than among men is a relatively new phenomenon. The grassroots opposition to "marriage equality" has been called "a girls'club" by one of its leaders.

    Men nearly ratified the ERA, until women heroically stopped them at the last minute. (And get no credit today.) Women are fundamentally conservative politically. But what the younger ones want to conserve is the degeneracy they have grown up under and know nothng other than.

    Ever notice what has always been missing from the 101-year-old Equal Rights Amendment? It's pretty obvious-- and telling-- when you read it...

    Any reference to responsibility, or obligation, or duty. This is not an oversight.


    https://gender-sexuality.law.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/styles/cu_crop/public/content/Images/Equality%20of%20rights%20under%20the%20law%20shall%20not%20be%20denied%20or%20abridged%20by%20the%20United%20States%20or%20by%20any%20State%20on%20account%20of%20sex.png?itok=6oWuaw9A
  75. Did you all see the “White” liberal that set up the Minnesota Freedom Fund! These damn White liberal men are tearing apart the fabric of America. All of these White liberals must go, Mayorkas, Blinken, Levine and this guy Lewin, too!

    MAGA 2024!

    •�Replies: @kaganovitch
    @William H Bonnie

    I see what you did there.
  76. @Wilkey
    @newrouter

    Currently it's being expressed by the fact that one of them is running neck-and-neck to win the presidency.

    Why is America so in love with black leaders? They've never done Africa or the Caribbean any good.

    Replies: @Ennui

    It isn’t about blacks, it’s never been about blacks, it’s about Angloid hubris and internal purges. The real target has always been those stiff-necked whites who would not conform. Those wretches predetermined by God for eternal damnation.

    Blacks are just props, bit players in a morality tale/ Manichean blood and destruction fantasies. This goes back before Jewish rise to power, back before Marx. This goes back to the Puritans.

    •�Replies: @Wilkey
    @Ennui


    Blacks are just props, bit players in a morality tale/ Manichean blood and destruction fantasies. This goes back before Jewish rise to power, back before Marx. This goes back to the Puritans.
    Oh sure, blame my people.

    This has jack squat to do with the Puritans. There probably isn't a single person with significant Puritan ancestry at any of the major media/tech companies now pushing Kamala Harris, or pushing B.O. back in 2008. They are all Jewish, Asian, DEI blacks, and Others.

    This is about political games men have been playing against each other for millennia. Hell, even the ancient Babylonians were relocating people around their empire for the purposes of political control. Were the ancient Babylonians Puritans, as well?

    Replies: @Ennui, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    , @mc23
    @Ennui


    This goes back before Jewish rise to power, back before Marx. This goes back to the Puritans.
    Did Steve spot a pattern or start a trend?
  77. @Anonymous
    @22pp22


    I doubt it’s going to alienate the tiny proportion of blacks who vote GOP. Winning the black vote has been the Holy Grail of the GOP for as long as I can remember, and Blacks still prefer Lori Lightfoot over Ben Carlson, or, in the UK, Dianne Abbott over Kemi Badenoch. Right-leaning Blacks are vastly more impressive than left-leaning Blacks yet garner little support form their own people.
    Along those lines, you may be unaware of how much many black men are not huge fans of black women. Have you noticed many successful black men can tend to not marry them? That's because they know their own people.

    Ironically, the harder Kamala tries to affect a "black" attitude to appease alleged black voters, and she will, the more black men will despise her. Kamala will self-destruct, and it won’t take much to accelerate the process, since a lot of black men hate her already.

    https://twitter.com/DogRightGirl/status/1817743558616695252

    Also, if you intend to have a relevant opinion, you have to keep up with the tech these days. Black folks are on Zoom now, and they’re good at it. That wasn’t true last election.

    It matters for this one:

    https://youtu.be/Ka1BDMRWfLU

    Replies: @Wokechoke

    This is a stupid strategy for Trump. Blacks are a lock in for Democratic votes. Trump needs to mobilise whites. Nothing else will work.

    •�Replies: @Anonymous
    @Wokechoke


    This is a stupid strategy for Trump. Blacks are a lock in for Democratic votes. Trump needs to mobilise whites. Nothing else will work.
    Not enough whites to clinch it, Sparky. If he gets enough intelligent blacks on board–and there’s more of them than you’d probably like to believe–Kamala would have to cheat so much to win, she couldn’t get away with it.

    Besides, if we review Trump's history, on paper, he’s America’s first black president, and deserves their full support.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  78. @kaganovitch
    @Frau Katze


    Whenever the election comes up, the commenters bring up abortion. It’s a totally losing plank for Republicans.
    It may well be a losing proposition for Republicans, but reading comments on NY Times articles is hardly dispositive. That's more like Pauline Kael saying, How could Nixon have won? I only know 1 person who voted for him.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Frau Katze, @Anonymous

    Wasn’t she joking though?

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Wokechoke


    Wasn’t [Pauline Kael] joking though?
    No. It was an earlier version of Hilary Clinton's "deplorables" quote, not humor:

    I live in a rather special world. I only know one person who voted for Nixon. Where they are I don’t know. They’re outside my ken. But sometimes when I’m in a theater I can feel them.
    https://www.commentary.org/john-podhoretz/the-actual-pauline-kael-quote%E2%80%94not-as-bad-and-worse/
  79. @Altai4
    On the topic of Kamala, I just found out she is apparently claiming, albeit to an audience at AIPAC behind closed doors in 2018 that as a young child she and her sister went around Oakland soliciting donations for the Jewish National Fund! It sounds an awful lot like a ridiculous election campaign story like Hilary ducking from snipers but I know nothing of Oakland in the 70s.

    Perhaps more surprising is that some guy at a campaign event challenged Kamala to release the transcript of what she said behind closed doors at an AIPAC event and she did!

    https://theintercept.com/2018/03/07/kamala-harris-israel-aipac

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-aipac-off-the-record_n_5c734f6ae4b06cf6bb27892d

    Interviewer: I could not agree with you more. And so you began by talking about how you received and you were instilled justice from your parents. So I was wondering if you could tell myself, and I’m sure everyone else is wondering, where exactly your support for Israel comes from?

    Harris: Well I grew up, it’s just it was always part of my life. I grew up ― we, and maybe many of you, I don’t know if anyone is still doing this with the vigor with which we would do it, but we would have our little boxes where we were raising money to plant trees for Israel. (Laughs) And we would go around with our box, and you know, I actually never sold Girl Scout cookies, but I raised money to plant trees in Israel. So it was just, it’s always been, it’s always been there. I’ve been to Israel three times, most recently in November of last year. I promised friends and myself that I would go before the end of my first year as a United States Senator, and it is just something that has always been a part of me. I don’t know when it started, it’s almost like saying when did you first realize you loved your family, or love your country, it just was always there. It was always there. But I will also say something that connects to the earlier point that you made. So this weekend, in fact late last night, I got back from Selma, from Alabama. And I was there with a bipartisan delegation of members of Congress to commemorate, not really celebrate, but commemorate the crossing of the Edmund Pettus Bridge, which occurred 53 years ago, and was highlighted because it was a notoriously awful day in what was called Bloody Sunday. Which is when a group of people that were black and white and brown and every color under the rainbow, a group of people that were ministers and rabbis, people of all ages, from all areas of the country, 25,000 in number by the third day that they tried to take that walk across that bridge, who marched together hand in hand to fight for everyone’s civil rights, and in particular the right of African American’s to vote, at that time.
    Of course the JNF forest planting has never been innocent and was used to plant over many ethnically cleansed Palestinian villages and towns Jews didn't repopulate and even ones they did. There was never any ecological or commercial need to raise money to plant spruce forests in Israel. And indeed is ongoing to this day. It's really just a way to funnel money to Israel from the diaspora over and above what they already give as I'm sure most of the money is pocketed.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-tree-planting-in-the-negev-sparked-protests-riots-and-a-coalition-crisis

    https://www.architectural-review.com/essays/books/violence-of-planting-in-israel-palestine

    https://www.972mag.com/jnf-germany-palestinians-forests

    https://rogersmovienation.com/2022/08/03/documentary-review-a-jew-searches-for-my-tree-planted-in-israel-in-his-honor-and-finds-guilt-and-regret-instead

    It was also a way to scam diaspora Jews in the infamous trick of having parcels of land where trees are constantly "planted" by American Jewish tourists only to be dug up for it or another tree to be planted by the next sucker.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2000/07/03/world/arboreal-scandal-in-israel-not-all-of-the-trees-planted-there-stay-planted.html

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2000/07/03/famed-saplings-planted-in-israel-lose-ground-to-great-tree-fraud

    Replies: @mel belli, @Greta Handel, @Jack D

    You want to know about Oakland in the ’70s? In 1976 I got a $50 jaywalking ticket from a cycle cop at 19th & Broadway at 6:00 a.m. on a Saturday.

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @mel belli


    In 1976 I got a $50 jaywalking ticket from a cycle cop at 19th & Broadway at 6:00 a.m. on a Saturday.
    Nothing changes. In the 2000's I came into Oakland on BART and met my future wife and her friend who took me the rest of the way to Yoshi's. We were chased down by a cop car, pulled over, and the friend given a ticket for stopping in a crosswalk to pick me up. It had been a very brief stop. I never patronized that Oakland business again.
  80. @Anonymous
    Really poor choice of mug shots. A lot of the faces actually look sympathetic, not criminal or menacing.

    Replies: @Cindy, @QCIC, @Gandydancer, @Jay Fink

    How many antidepressants does a person have to be on for his perception of dangerous faces to be this warped?

    •�Agree: Gandydancer
    •�Replies: @Ed Case
    @Cindy

    Most of those faces are quite symmetrical.
    Someone posted a quiz on UR this year, women can't pick criminal faces if the face has good symmetry.
    , @Cloudbuster
    @Cindy

    The commenter must be face blind, or something. That said, the most sinister character in that ad is Greg Lewin, of the Minnesota Freedom Fund.
  81. Southport child killer (3 kids dead now) – the Rwanda rumours seem to be correct:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/29/southport-major-incident-stabbing-police/

    “The youth, who cannot be named for legal reasons and is originally from Cardiff, moved to the Southport area with his Rwandan parents when he was aged six.”

  82. @Ennui
    @Wilkey

    It isn't about blacks, it's never been about blacks, it's about Angloid hubris and internal purges. The real target has always been those stiff-necked whites who would not conform. Those wretches predetermined by God for eternal damnation.

    Blacks are just props, bit players in a morality tale/ Manichean blood and destruction fantasies. This goes back before Jewish rise to power, back before Marx. This goes back to the Puritans.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @mc23

    Blacks are just props, bit players in a morality tale/ Manichean blood and destruction fantasies. This goes back before Jewish rise to power, back before Marx. This goes back to the Puritans.

    Oh sure, blame my people.

    This has jack squat to do with the Puritans. There probably isn’t a single person with significant Puritan ancestry at any of the major media/tech companies now pushing Kamala Harris, or pushing B.O. back in 2008. They are all Jewish, Asian, DEI blacks, and Others.

    This is about political games men have been playing against each other for millennia. Hell, even the ancient Babylonians were relocating people around their empire for the purposes of political control. Were the ancient Babylonians Puritans, as well?

    •�Agree: Prester John
    •�Thanks: bomag
    •�Replies: @Ennui
    @Wilkey

    How did Kamala and the Jews come to power? Who made the system they flourish in?


    To your other point, how was Hammurabi anything like New Englanders or Whigs in terms of his political rhetoric and eschatology? Using another group to play power politics is not what is going on here. This isn't the Ottomans using the Janissaries, the Brits using the Parsees or Rajputs, or Abbasids using Turkish slave soldiers.
    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Wilkey

    Main tenet of conservatism is about individual responsibility. But it's everyone else's fault except you own.

    We Dindu Nuffin. It's the Jews.

    You Guys All Look The Same.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1968-101-20A%2C_Joseph_Goebbels.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-705-0262-06%2C_Ukraine%2C_von_Manstein_und_Speidel.jpg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright, @Torna atrás
  83. QCIC says:
    @Anonymous
    Really poor choice of mug shots. A lot of the faces actually look sympathetic, not criminal or menacing.

    Replies: @Cindy, @QCIC, @Gandydancer, @Jay Fink

    I agree, the people in the mugshots look a bit like actors. I’m not suggesting they are, but the choice of faces is interesting.

    If this is a real ad, has it been pulled yet?

    It seems too on the nose to stand, so maybe it is a trial balloon? Or will they follow up and emphasize the victims were black as well?

    Is there a subtle and potent subtext that Kamala is black and her victims will be black voters and citizens?

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @QCIC


    Is there a subtle and potent subtext that Kamala is black and her victims will be black voters and citizens?
    With whom would THAT be "potent". -I-, and I suspect most voters, care that Kamala's victims might include them and people like them, and not particularly POCs. People who talk about "it's Blacks who suffer most" smell to me like Democrats.

    Replies: @deep anonymous
  84. @Steve Sailer
    @Elsewhere

    The way to do it is to pick a starting date well out into the future so that you can't figure out which party will be advantaged, such as 2033. And then grandfather in everybody currently on the Supreme Court until they die.

    Replies: @Renard, @Wilkey, @Bernard, @Colin Wright, @Corvinus

    The way to do it is to pick a starting date well out into the future so that you can’t figure out which party will be advantaged, such as 2033. And then grandfather in everybody currently on the Supreme Court until they die.

    The problem I see with judicial reform is that there will probably be no guarantee that a nominee will get a vote. The Republicans delayed the vote on Antonin Scalia’s replacement (thank God) until after the 2016 elections, then rushed the vote when Ginsburg died just before the 2020 election (thank God).

    So if the Senate is held by a party opposite to the president they will always be delaying confirmation votes past the next election. Since the expiration dates of the terms will be scheduled, they will know exactly which justices will be leaving soon.

    But if we’re going to do a Supreme Court reform amendment let’s do a Congress & Presidential reform amendment, as well. No more lame duck sessions of Congress: no more lame duck presidential pardons or executive actions; no presidential candidates over 70, no Senate candidates over 75, no House candidates over 80; allow states to pass term limits for their delegation; force congressmen to put all of their investments in ETFs and/or schedule their trades months in advance; place strict bans on how much retired politicians and their spouses can earn after leaving office.

    Also, eliminate birthright citizenship. That’s not a reform of one of the three branches, but you gotta use whatever leverage you have.

  85. According to Drudge, Harris is going to make the abortion issue her top campaign issue. Surprise!! Meanwhile in other news, America’s debt has ballooned to over 35 trillion dollars, with most of the debt held by Total unfunded liabilities (mainly SS and Medicare) are over 73 trillion. According to USAFacts “As of April 2024, the five countries owning the most US debt are Japan ($1.1 trillion), China ($749.0 billion), the United Kingdom ($690.2 billion), Luxembourg ($373.5 billion), and Canada ($328.7 billion).” Not a peep from the MSM of course.

    As Mencken would have put it: We deserve what we get, good and hard!

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Prester John


    'According to Drudge, Harris is going to make the abortion issue her top campaign issue...'
    That shouldn't be a winner. Assuming the Trump campaign has a brain, all they have to do is select a policy just restrictive enough to make Harris denounce it (no abortions after five months or whatever). Then the birthers will have to vote for Trump as the lesser of two evils, and everyone else this side of San Francisco, Ca will decide that sounds pretty reasonable, and it's adios Harris.

    Here's Trump's opening words. 'Of course it's up to the individual states and their voters to determine the laws that will apply in each state, but my personal belief is...'
  86. @AnotherDad
    @Elsewhere

    I'd suggest 17 years and 17 "justices". The most senior retires every year and the President--with Senate approval--appoints a new one every year. (I.e. in normal operation the President never has "his court".) And they must return to the lower courts once the term is up.

    But also that 9 of them are selected by lot for any given petition and separately for any given case. You could even scale up--34, 51, 68 ...

    The idea would be lower their profile. This idea that our republic is bossed around by these two-bit "Philosopher Kings"--and the worst possible people for that job, lawyers--is appalling.


    Most of all the amendment should have specific language that they are empowered only to follow the law, not decide any social or political issue. (That if they want to do so they should run for office.) And that all foreign policy and immigration issues are outside of their bailiwick. And that it is the duty of Congress to impeach and expel any justice rendering a decision that "makes law".

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Erik L, @Curle

    But also that 9 of them are selected by lot for any given petition and separately for any given case. You could even scale up–34, 51, 68 …

    Somehow I think that the lot would be rigged. Another guaranteed problem with your suggestion is that it would create an extremely unstable Court, with opinions changing randomly based on who is selected to hear which case. Is abortion a Constitutional right today? Can the government enforce the immigration laws today? Is DEI legal today? Shake the Magic 8 Ball and find out! Random selection of judges in the lower tier courts works – somewhat – because their rulings can be appealed to a higher court.

    But your suggestion of 51 Supreme Court justices sounds great, because it would be the number you would have if every state got to appoint a Supreme Court justice, and the president selected one. It’s more than a little unnerving that so many of our justices come from a few metro areas – especially New York, Boston & D.C. It’s even more unnerving that at one point recently 33% of our justices – and almost 44%, if Obama’s nomination of Merrick Garland had proceeded – were from a single ethnic group that is only 2-3% of the US population. Perhaps guaranteed geographic diversity wouldn’t be a terrible thing. The bonus is that more Supreme Court justices NOT controlled by the president could help change the dynamics of federal elections.

    Now ask yourself: do you think Congress would give up that much power and turn SCOTUS appointments over to the states? Surely you jest.

  87. @Peter Akuleyev
    @J.Ross

    The fact that you posted that makes you weird. This is exactly what the Dems are talking about. The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @AnotherDad, @mc23, @Wilkey

    @J. Ross

    The fact that you posted that makes you weird. This is exactly what the Dems are talking about. The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.

    Nonsense. It isn’t weird and it isn’t “obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences* to remind people that the Biden administration went out of it’s way to appoint ridiculous, disgusting perverts to responsible positions in the government. It was a big F**k You to regular, square America.

    You are playing into the whole tactic – or perhaps you are a willing partisan of that tactic – to introduce weird, marginal, degenerate topics into the national discourse and then, when called out on it, to whine “why are you being so divisive”?

    •�Agree: Gandydancer
    •�Thanks: deep anonymous
    •�Replies: @fnn
    @Mr. Anon

    That low IQ ex-high school football coach Minnesota governor (who looks and talks like the late Gus Hall of CPUSA) was the one chosen to kick off the "weird" campaign. Perfect guy to project a false image of normality. Gus came across like a dumber and slightly more boring version of Hubert Humphrey.
  88. @Altai4
    On the topic of Kamala, I just found out she is apparently claiming, albeit to an audience at AIPAC behind closed doors in 2018 that as a young child she and her sister went around Oakland soliciting donations for the Jewish National Fund! It sounds an awful lot like a ridiculous election campaign story like Hilary ducking from snipers but I know nothing of Oakland in the 70s.

    Perhaps more surprising is that some guy at a campaign event challenged Kamala to release the transcript of what she said behind closed doors at an AIPAC event and she did!

    https://theintercept.com/2018/03/07/kamala-harris-israel-aipac

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-aipac-off-the-record_n_5c734f6ae4b06cf6bb27892d

    Interviewer: I could not agree with you more. And so you began by talking about how you received and you were instilled justice from your parents. So I was wondering if you could tell myself, and I’m sure everyone else is wondering, where exactly your support for Israel comes from?

    Harris: Well I grew up, it’s just it was always part of my life. I grew up ― we, and maybe many of you, I don’t know if anyone is still doing this with the vigor with which we would do it, but we would have our little boxes where we were raising money to plant trees for Israel. (Laughs) And we would go around with our box, and you know, I actually never sold Girl Scout cookies, but I raised money to plant trees in Israel. So it was just, it’s always been, it’s always been there. I’ve been to Israel three times, most recently in November of last year. I promised friends and myself that I would go before the end of my first year as a United States Senator, and it is just something that has always been a part of me. I don’t know when it started, it’s almost like saying when did you first realize you loved your family, or love your country, it just was always there. It was always there. But I will also say something that connects to the earlier point that you made. So this weekend, in fact late last night, I got back from Selma, from Alabama. And I was there with a bipartisan delegation of members of Congress to commemorate, not really celebrate, but commemorate the crossing of the Edmund Pettus Bridge, which occurred 53 years ago, and was highlighted because it was a notoriously awful day in what was called Bloody Sunday. Which is when a group of people that were black and white and brown and every color under the rainbow, a group of people that were ministers and rabbis, people of all ages, from all areas of the country, 25,000 in number by the third day that they tried to take that walk across that bridge, who marched together hand in hand to fight for everyone’s civil rights, and in particular the right of African American’s to vote, at that time.
    Of course the JNF forest planting has never been innocent and was used to plant over many ethnically cleansed Palestinian villages and towns Jews didn't repopulate and even ones they did. There was never any ecological or commercial need to raise money to plant spruce forests in Israel. And indeed is ongoing to this day. It's really just a way to funnel money to Israel from the diaspora over and above what they already give as I'm sure most of the money is pocketed.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-tree-planting-in-the-negev-sparked-protests-riots-and-a-coalition-crisis

    https://www.architectural-review.com/essays/books/violence-of-planting-in-israel-palestine

    https://www.972mag.com/jnf-germany-palestinians-forests

    https://rogersmovienation.com/2022/08/03/documentary-review-a-jew-searches-for-my-tree-planted-in-israel-in-his-honor-and-finds-guilt-and-regret-instead

    It was also a way to scam diaspora Jews in the infamous trick of having parcels of land where trees are constantly "planted" by American Jewish tourists only to be dug up for it or another tree to be planted by the next sucker.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2000/07/03/world/arboreal-scandal-in-israel-not-all-of-the-trees-planted-there-stay-planted.html

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2000/07/03/famed-saplings-planted-in-israel-lose-ground-to-great-tree-fraud

    Replies: @mel belli, @Greta Handel, @Jack D

    Politicians who make it to Washington are often this shameless, opportunistic, and degraded.

    You don’t expect Team Red to run with that, do you?

  89. Harris did what she needed to do to stay in power. When the R’s, aging whites, were the majority of the voters she was a rabid and insane tough on crime candidate. Then when the demographics changed she was BLM defunding the police.

  90. @Anon
    OT: One by one, conservative pundits are coming to terms with the fact that the abortion thing is an albatross around conservatism's neck.

    https://twitter.com/VDAREJamesK/status/1816601709667356864

    https://twitter.com/pearlythingz/status/1817508945990234607

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey, @Mr. Anon, @Dumbo, @Gandydancer, @Catdog

    OT: One by one, conservative pundits are coming to terms with the fact that the abortion thing is an albatross around conservatism’s neck.

    At the national level, yes. At the state and local level, not necessarily.

    Strict anti-abortion laws function as liberal-repellant. They will help keep Red states Red.

    •�Thanks: Ron Mexico
    •�Replies: @Anon
    @Mr. Anon

    Strict anti-abortion laws function as liberal-repellant. They will help keep Red states Red.

    Until 18 years later when the kids who would have been aborted grow up.
    , @deep anonymous
    @Mr. Anon


    "Strict anti-abortion laws function as liberal-repellant. They will help keep Red states Red."
    Great insight.
  91. The Democratic Party / Media Hive-Mind on display:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/media-shills-have-received-their-new-script-conservatives-are-weird

    So many Liberals really are NPCs.

  92. @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    I read a lot of reader comments at NYT (on certain articles).

    Whenever the election comes up, the commenters bring up abortion. It’s a totally losing plank for Republicans.

    Losing among whom? Trump was going to win votes among Times readers?

    You may be right that abortion is a losing plank -- but not because it doesn't win votes from Times readers. They're not going to vote for Trump in any case.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    But the question is why are Times readers committed Dems? I suggest that the abortion issue is a big reason.

    On an article about Harris replacing Biden, about a third of the comments were anti-Harris.

    Yet most will still vote for her and one reason is abortion.

    The Times also ran story about a woman in a non-abortion state: the child she was carrying was doomed: it had a genetic defect that meant it wouldn’t live more than a few weeks.

    In this particular case the doctors also recommended abortion because of some kind of problem with her ability to carry a future pregnancy,

    But the abortion board in her state turned her down. This was clearly an unusual case: with a rare genetic defect and the woman having a problem with the pregnancy. But the Times hunted and found a case like this just to whip up their readers.

    Note that in Canada there is no political party running on an anti-abortion plank. It’s that unpopular.

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    'But the question is why are Times readers committed Dems? I suggest that the abortion issue is a big reason.'
    I suspect otherwise. Trump or the Republicans could take any stance on abortion at all; the Times readers would still vote Democrat. There's certainly a swing vote here -- but it doesn't read the Times.

    Replies: @Curle
    , @TWS
    @Frau Katze

    Right. The New York Times readers are liberal democrats or even socialist because the Republicans want to not kill children. Maybe they are losing that reasonable middle ground euthanasia demographic as well. Do you personally know anyone who voted for Nixon?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico
    , @vinteuil
    @Frau Katze

    Hi, Mistress Pussy.

    How're you doing?

    Replies: @Mike Tre
    , @mc23
    @Frau Katze

    There have been opportunities since Roe vs Wade was first decided for the Democrats to secure abortion through legislation. They've never done so. Any national abortion rights bill passed would have required minor compromises but I've seen it suggested the real reason is the Democrats want abortion to be an issue.

    Replies: @Frau Katze
    , @Anonymous
    @Frau Katze

    As a former Democrat and devoted Times reader, I can tell you the reason that I was committed to the Dems, and it wasn’t abortion. It was the belief that Republicans were Bad Whites and I wanted to be on the side of the Good Whites and POC. I am embarrassed to admit it was really that simple.
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Frau Katze


    Note that in Canada there is no political party running on an anti-abortion plank. It’s that unpopular.
    Which is odd, because Morgentaler came down 15 years after Roe. Parliament was told by the court-- based on a constitution on which the ink hadn't quite dried-- to rewrite the law from scratch. No Parliament has since done so, leaving the country with no law whatsoever, other than general medical practice standards.

    This sounds less like principle than cowardice. In the Roe/Morgentaler era, laws throughout Europe were stricter than in North America. Not as strict as opponents would like, but enough to horrify any North American "prochoicer" were the same to be proposed over here. Evidently, this was the result of democratic, legislative deliberation.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Gandydancer
    , @Anon
    @Frau Katze


    The Times also ran story about a woman in a non-abortion state: the child she was carrying was doomed: it had a genetic defect that meant it wouldn’t live more than a few weeks.

    It's not a child, it's just a fetus, like a tumor, right? Too much work to go to the next state with abortion-galore rules, it seems.

    Even better, she could go to Canada and get a painless injection for herself, including the unwanted tumor. Then they could meet in ... uh, heaven. Yeah, heaven that's the ticket.
  93. @kaganovitch
    @Frau Katze


    Whenever the election comes up, the commenters bring up abortion. It’s a totally losing plank for Republicans.
    It may well be a losing proposition for Republicans, but reading comments on NY Times articles is hardly dispositive. That's more like Pauline Kael saying, How could Nixon have won? I only know 1 person who voted for him.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Frau Katze, @Anonymous

    See my lengthy reply to Colin Wright.

  94. Anonymous[830] •�Disclaimer says:
    @kaganovitch
    @Frau Katze


    Whenever the election comes up, the commenters bring up abortion. It’s a totally losing plank for Republicans.
    It may well be a losing proposition for Republicans, but reading comments on NY Times articles is hardly dispositive. That's more like Pauline Kael saying, How could Nixon have won? I only know 1 person who voted for him.

    Replies: @Wokechoke, @Frau Katze, @Anonymous

    It’s not that ideological liberals would be on the fence otherwise, moreso that abortion access motivates more of them to show up and vote and get normies to vote also than banning abortion does for the right. Abortion rights : Dems :: immigration restriction : Republicans

  95. Curle says:

    the Media Megaphone had converted this Pulitzer Prize-winning story about Dukakis’s screw-up into proof of Bush’s racism

    And yet terms like ‘media megaphone’ are never given an ethnic identification in the way that fascism, right-wing and Nazi are in general usage. Even the term Bolshevik isn’t commonly given an ethnic usage. If it were used and given an ethnic usage it would be wildly protested as some derivation of racism but so what? Some action on offense is better than no action on offense. Playing defense all the time is a sucker’s game.

    •�Replies: @Anonymous
    @Curle

    I don't get your point. Naziism was a German/Nordic supremacist ideology: obviously it has "ethnic identification." Fascism is context-dependent. The American right-wing and media megaphone each have an ethnic skew...which is unsurprising, because so does everything else that matters. What are you advocating exactly?

    Replies: @Curle, @Gandydancer
  96. @J.Ross
    So apparently $200M handed to the forcememe artisans at "Launch Viral" has resulted in the slogans "Kamala is brat" and "Trump is wierd."

    Replies: @bomag, @dcthrowback, @Anon

    During WWII’s spending spree in the US, Congress was trying to crack down on some of the boondoggles and money wasting.

    One exchange had the bureaucrat saying, “when I send out a check to pay for something, I don’t look at the amount.”

    Good times are here again.

  97. @Mark G.
    Off topic: The national debt just reached 35 trillion dollars. It previously hit 34 trillion dollars in January, increasing by a trillion dollars in the last seven months. It is over two trillion dollars higher than 12 months ago. According to Fortune magazine, government spending is crowding out private investment. Private investing is 30% lower than in the year 2000. Also, the dollar has lost 50% of its value since 2000 as the government has been printing up money to cover the deficits.

    The CBO projects that in 2034 the national debt will be 50 trillion dollars and yearly interest payments will be 1.7 trillion dollars. It also projects in 2034 the Social Security trust fund will run out of money, followed by 23% benefit cuts. This will be followed two years later in 2036 by the Medicare trust fund running out of money.

    The number of retired people over 65 will go from 35 million in 2000 to 82 million in 2040. The ratio of workers to retirees will go from 5:1 in 2000 down to only 2.5:1 in 2040.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous, @Colin Wright, @AnotherDad, @Jonathan Mason, @Pixo, @Anonymous

    There are a number of issues that ought to be debated between the campaigns, including immigration, border control, health insurance, fentanyl, drug prices, Ukraine, Israel-Palestine, NATO, Iran, climate change, and certainly the deficit. The Big D.

    Britain’s new labor government is squealing because they claim that when they checked the books there was a big hole in the National finances, and the government was spending about 6 billion pounds a year of unfunded spending on asylum expenses.

    It would be interesting to know how much the USA Federal government and state governments are spending on making provisions for people seeking asylum, and how much it would cost to implement a program of mass deportations.

    Both campaigns should have their feet held to the fire to explain what they plan to do about the deficit and the aging population.

    Unfortunately most of the mass media are more interested in the horse race aspect of the election as opposed to the alternative policy choices.

    And unfortunately the candidates on both sides seem to be content to behave like 3-year-olds saying my daddy can beat up your daddy.

    There also seems to be a preoccupation with the family backgrounds of the various candidates, rather than asking what they stand for, what policies they support, and what relevant experience they bring to the table.

  98. There are a number of issues that ought to be debated between the campaigns, including immigration, border control, health insurance, fentanyl, abortion, birth control drug prices, Ukraine, Israel-Palestine, NATO, Iran, climate change, and certainly the deficit. The Big D.

    Britain’s new labor government is squealing because they claim that when they checked the books there was a big hole in the National finances, and the government was spending about 6 billion pounds a year of unfunded spending on asylum expenses.

    It would be interesting to know how much the USA Federal government and state governments are spending on making provisions for people seeking asylum, and how much it would cost to implement a program of mass deportations.

    Both campaigns should have their feet held to the fire to explain what they plan to do about the deficit and the aging population.

    Unfortunately most of the mass media are more interested in the horse race aspect of the election as opposed to the alternative policy choices.

    And unfortunately the candidates on both sides seem to be content to behave like 3-year-olds saying my daddy can beat up your daddy.

    There also seems to be a preoccupation with the family backgrounds of the various candidates, rather than asking what they stand for, what policies they support, and what relevant experience they bring to the table.

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Jonathan Mason


    '...Unfortunately most of the mass media are more interested in the horse race aspect of the election as opposed to the alternative policy choices...'
    Of course. Those in the media don't want those policies to change.
    , @J.Ross
    @Jonathan Mason

    If it's not genocidal hatred, what would motivate a government to go massively into debt to accomodate invaders?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  99. @AnotherDad
    @Elsewhere

    I'd suggest 17 years and 17 "justices". The most senior retires every year and the President--with Senate approval--appoints a new one every year. (I.e. in normal operation the President never has "his court".) And they must return to the lower courts once the term is up.

    But also that 9 of them are selected by lot for any given petition and separately for any given case. You could even scale up--34, 51, 68 ...

    The idea would be lower their profile. This idea that our republic is bossed around by these two-bit "Philosopher Kings"--and the worst possible people for that job, lawyers--is appalling.


    Most of all the amendment should have specific language that they are empowered only to follow the law, not decide any social or political issue. (That if they want to do so they should run for office.) And that all foreign policy and immigration issues are outside of their bailiwick. And that it is the duty of Congress to impeach and expel any justice rendering a decision that "makes law".

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Erik L, @Curle

    This is a good proposal. I think Wilkey’s objection could be answered by making the selection based on a publicly available random number. The numbers racket in NYC used the final few digits of the Dow Jones at the end of trading.

    Your final paragraph would be nice but too easy to get around. Who would decide if the court had made a political decision? The courts have had plausible sounding legal reasoning for all their political cases. Who would get the blatantly political ones like the lawfare claims and the close elections with hanging chads?

    How would we handle cases that cross between immigration and other issues?

    How would we assure congress does this impeaching when half the congress would be pleased as punch with any law the supreme court wills into existence?

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Erik L


    This is a good proposal. I think Wilkey’s objection could be answered by making the selection based on a publicly available random number. The numbers racket in NYC used the final few digits of the Dow Jones at the end of trading.
    Back when I played wargames by mail we would simulate dice rolls by the last digit of trading volumes in heavily traded stocks on a future date between mailing our moves and expected receipt. But with SCOTUS panel membership at stake I'm sure any such number could easily be manipulated. Did the policy racket guys never do that?

    A quick glance art the relevant Wikipedia page shows a different random number generator.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_game
  100. @AnotherDad
    @Wilkey



    Abortion is a bad thing not necessarily just because it kills babies, but because it changes the whole relationship dynamic between men and and women. People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it. ...

    Pregnancy used to force young man and women to make important, grownup decisions – decisions with extremely important ramifications for this country (see: population bust). But now between birth control and abortion, no one has to do that anymore.
    Great comment Wilkey.

    Sex by nature is important. And the civilized races have evolved both genetically and culturally in ways to support the reproduction of civilization. We are not designed as people to be pump and dumpers, but to be able to bond for the long commitment of raising productive civilized replacement people.

    Again modernity--in so many, many facets--is a huge "environmental shock"--akin the return of the glaciers or the like. And we are now undergoing selection for those, and those nations, who can reproduce civilized people and nations under modern conditions.

    ~

    Sadly, Western nations are failing this test, not because said selection for reproduction in modernity is not proceeding apace in Western nations, but because we've allowed these evil mutants pushing "immigration!", "must have immigration!", "more immigration!" to destroy the West faster than selection is working to rework and save us.

    Replies: @anonymous, @bomag

    And we are now undergoing selection for those, and those nations, who can reproduce civilized people and nations under modern conditions.

    Apt comment, but I’m wondering about the staying power of high civilization. It is prone to rise and fall; will we always be able to rise yet again?

  101. @newrouter
    There alot of Negro Fatigue in this "country". One of these days it will be expressed.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Currahee

    I dunno: the Negro Delusion Bubble is vast, deep, impenetrable.

  102. @Elsewhere
    OT: Joe Biden endorses the Sailer Plan for the Supreme Court:

    Second, we have had term limits for presidents for nearly 75 years. We should have the same for Supreme Court justices. The United States is the only major constitutional democracy that gives lifetime seats to its high court. Term limits would help ensure that the court’s membership changes with some regularity. That would make timing for court nominations more predictable and less arbitrary. It would reduce the chance that any single presidency radically alters the makeup of the court for generations to come. I support a system in which the president would appoint a justice every two years to spend 18 years in active service on the Supreme Court.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AnotherDad, @Diversity Heretic, @Gandydancer

    Any federal judicial reform must not be limited to the justices of the Supreme Court, but must also apply to the justices of the courts of appeals and the judges of the district courts. One should also consider retention elections, which many states have, and which make judges and justices run against their record and become more accountable to the people.

  103. @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    But the question is why are Times readers committed Dems? I suggest that the abortion issue is a big reason.

    On an article about Harris replacing Biden, about a third of the comments were anti-Harris.

    Yet most will still vote for her and one reason is abortion.

    The Times also ran story about a woman in a non-abortion state: the child she was carrying was doomed: it had a genetic defect that meant it wouldn’t live more than a few weeks.

    In this particular case the doctors also recommended abortion because of some kind of problem with her ability to carry a future pregnancy,

    But the abortion board in her state turned her down. This was clearly an unusual case: with a rare genetic defect and the woman having a problem with the pregnancy. But the Times hunted and found a case like this just to whip up their readers.

    Note that in Canada there is no political party running on an anti-abortion plank. It’s that unpopular.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @TWS, @vinteuil, @mc23, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    ‘But the question is why are Times readers committed Dems? I suggest that the abortion issue is a big reason.’

    I suspect otherwise. Trump or the Republicans could take any stance on abortion at all; the Times readers would still vote Democrat. There’s certainly a swing vote here — but it doesn’t read the Times.

    •�Agree: TWS, Gandydancer
    •�Replies: @Curle
    @Colin Wright


    Trump or the Republicans could take any stance on abortion at all; the Times readers would still vote Democrat.
    Agree. Crime and economic collapse seem to be the only things that move them if the history of the mid-‘70s to ‘80s provides any clues. And, by NYT readers I’m thinking of yuppies living in expensive neighborhoods where they are protected by real estate prices from living next door to non-yuppies and the police or demographics keep crime mostly under control.

    Replies: @Colin Wright
  104. @Jonathan Mason
    There are a number of issues that ought to be debated between the campaigns, including immigration, border control, health insurance, fentanyl, abortion, birth control drug prices, Ukraine, Israel-Palestine, NATO, Iran, climate change, and certainly the deficit. The Big D.

    Britain's new labor government is squealing because they claim that when they checked the books there was a big hole in the National finances, and the government was spending about 6 billion pounds a year of unfunded spending on asylum expenses.

    It would be interesting to know how much the USA Federal government and state governments are spending on making provisions for people seeking asylum, and how much it would cost to implement a program of mass deportations.

    Both campaigns should have their feet held to the fire to explain what they plan to do about the deficit and the aging population.

    Unfortunately most of the mass media are more interested in the horse race aspect of the election as opposed to the alternative policy choices.

    And unfortunately the candidates on both sides seem to be content to behave like 3-year-olds saying my daddy can beat up your daddy.

    There also seems to be a preoccupation with the family backgrounds of the various candidates, rather than asking what they stand for, what policies they support, and what relevant experience they bring to the table.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @J.Ross

    ‘…Unfortunately most of the mass media are more interested in the horse race aspect of the election as opposed to the alternative policy choices…’

    Of course. Those in the media don’t want those policies to change.

  105. Anonymous[830] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Curle

    the Media Megaphone had converted this Pulitzer Prize-winning story about Dukakis’s screw-up into proof of Bush’s racism
    And yet terms like ‘media megaphone’ are never given an ethnic identification in the way that fascism, right-wing and Nazi are in general usage. Even the term Bolshevik isn’t commonly given an ethnic usage. If it were used and given an ethnic usage it would be wildly protested as some derivation of racism but so what? Some action on offense is better than no action on offense. Playing defense all the time is a sucker’s game.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I don’t get your point. Naziism was a German/Nordic supremacist ideology: obviously it has “ethnic identification.” Fascism is context-dependent. The American right-wing and media megaphone each have an ethnic skew…which is unsurprising, because so does everything else that matters. What are you advocating exactly?

    •�Replies: @Curle
    @Anonymous


    The American right-wing and media megaphone each have an ethnic skew
    Then call it out as the Gentiles versus the Jews rather than acting ambiguous about whether these are ethnic dominated institutions conforming their behaviors to ethnic interests. A lot of people won’t and don’t get subtlety. Belloc said it or suggested it years ago in his book The Jews that the Tribe benefit from hiding their ethnocentrism. Allowing that state of affairs to continue is not in the best interest of Gentiles and it buries the real question raised by all these wars which is who benefits? At the end of the day what did WW1 and WW2 get my grandfather or any other southern boy? What does the state of Israel mean to the US?

    I’d gladly have seen this country stay out of both wars if it had impeded the empowerment of the open borders crowd.

    Replies: @Gandydancer
    , @Gandydancer
    @Anonymous


    The American right-wing and media megaphone each have an ethnic skew…which is unsurprising, because so does everything else that matters. What are you advocating exactly?
    Curle is advocating for a Final Solution to the problem of the American Jew. Are you seriously in doubt about this?
  106. @J.Ross
    So apparently $200M handed to the forcememe artisans at "Launch Viral" has resulted in the slogans "Kamala is brat" and "Trump is wierd."

    Replies: @bomag, @dcthrowback, @Anon

    ***Wired

    •�Replies: @J.Ross
    @dcthrowback

    Billboards already up in Detroit: "I'm a Trump supporter. I love the constitution. I'm voting for Harris."
  107. Did they bail out any white criminals? (if so, why?)

  108. @RadicalCenter
    @AnotherDad

    How about a lifetime exemption from federal income tax for people who:

    (1) actually have and pay some federal income tax liability every year for at least ten consecutive years, after accounting for any “refundable” tax credits,

    And

    (2) have at least four or five natural (not adopted) children

    And

    (3) remain married during that same ten-year period.

    For this purpose, merely paying Social Security or Medicare taxes would not count. The couple must pay federal income tax that’s not (allegedly) meant to pay their own retirement benefits or elder medical care.

    Then again, we could probably expect any drastic financial/tax incentive for big families to lead to an even faster increase in the population of small but booming religious sects in the USA than we already see. For example:

    Amish,
    traditional rural Mormons (as most Mormons don’t have many kids any more),
    observant Muslims,
    and insane inbred ultraorthodox and Hasidic jews.

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    and insane inbred ultraorthodox and Hasidic jews.

    Why insane? How inbred?

  109. @William H Bonnie
    Did you all see the "White" liberal that set up the Minnesota Freedom Fund! These damn White liberal men are tearing apart the fabric of America. All of these White liberals must go, Mayorkas, Blinken, Levine and this guy Lewin, too!

    MAGA 2024!

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    I see what you did there.

  110. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Wilkey

    People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it

    This is exactly why being anti-abortion is a losing issue politically. Are voters going to choose the party offering guilt free sex or the party preaching that only people prepared to take on grown up responsibilities (expensive responsibilities as well) should have sex?

    Replies: @fnn, @Reg Cæsar

    But the Democrats can offer the promise of nuclear war with Russia and no one seems bothered. The level of pro-war hysteria is way down in the US, but the Brits continue to be excited. Nothing gets them going like a good war.

    •�Replies: @Bragadocious
    @fnn

    To your point, I highly suggest reading Tom Sharpe in the Telegraph. There isn't a person on the planet more ginned up for war both with Hezbollah and Russia. He writes long tedious columns on weapons systems that would seem to be more at home in Jane's Defense Weekly but have been normalized in the bloodthirsty English media. His English readers all seem to jerk off to his ramblings. I can't think of a single American newspaper that runs crap like this.
    , @Frau Katze
    @fnn


    But the Democrats can offer the promise of nuclear war with Russia…
    Economic sanctions are not nuclear war.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @J.Ross, @Mr. Anon, @Gandydancer
  111. @AnotherDad
    @Reg Cæsar



    The abortion debate is lost.
    They said that in 1973. As the ERA was nearing its inevitable ratification.
    I don't recall that from 1973. I recall outrage at the Supremes hijacking the debate and dictating an outcome. A sense of illegitimacy.

    But in any case, because someone was wrong 50 years ago, has little to do with the question today. My rough take is on abortion itself pro-lifers have made a lot of progress. Lots of people have been moved to think about it and decided it is indeed wrong, icky, disgusting ... and want no part of it. But on the legality question--telling other people they can not have an abortion--the debate, while not "lost", has certainly trended, strongly the other way.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    But on the legality question–telling other people they can not have an abortion–the debate, while not “lost”, has certainly trended, strongly the other way.

    Telling people they cannot skip out on child support is as popular as ever. And what is an abortion, if not the ultimate such skipping-out? As with many other issues, the mistake is in framing it as a matter of rights rather than of duties.

    Note that many of the same “pro-choice” legislators have been pushing, or at least voting, to add women to the Selective Service registry. Their respect for women’s bodily autonomy is rather suspect.

    •�Agree: bomag
    •�Replies: @deep anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar


    Note that many of the same “pro-choice” legislators have been pushing, or at least voting, to add women to the Selective Service registry. Their respect for women’s bodily autonomy is rather suspect.
    I strongly suspect that most of them also favored or even demanded compulsory "vaccination" during the COVID debacle. So much for the notion of "Our bodies, our choice."
  112. seth says:

    I think liberals have been conditioned to believe that Horton was innocent. Or, “well if he wasn’t innocent then, he sure is now!”

    I read a piece once complaining that Horton doesn’t go by “Willie” but by “William” and it was more racist defamation to refer to him as such.

  113. @Peter Akuleyev
    @J.Ross

    The fact that you posted that makes you weird. This is exactly what the Dems are talking about. The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @AnotherDad, @mc23, @Wilkey

    …who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.

    This is about the sartorial preferences of someone working for the US Office of Nuclear Energy. We are, or were, paying “their” salary. Are you saying taxpayers don’t have a right to demand a dress code? Or that their public servants be minimally sane?

    Would you trust this individual with spent fuel in your neighborhood?

    •�Replies: @HA
    @Reg Cæsar

    "This is about the sartorial preferences of someone working for the US Office of Nuclear Energy. We are, or were, paying 'their' salary. Are you saying taxpayers don’t have a right to demand a dress code?"

    I think "were paying" is more correct than "are paying":

    For the second time in three months, Brinton stands accused of stealing a woman’s suitcase from an airport luggage carousel. He has now been suspended from his government role and is facing a hefty fine with a possible custodial sentence.
    Whereas if you do a search on "MTG crotch video" (or worse yet, "Matt Gaetz reacts to MTG crotch video") you're going to get an eyeful of people still mind-bogglingly employed by the establishment. Have I mentioned the presidential candidate who tells his escorts they remind him of his daughter?

    Speaking of which, Matt Gaetz's "doc, gimme a double-dose of everything you got" approach to plastic surgery bespeaks a dysmorphia right up there with whatever is messing with Brinton.

    Replies: @Gandydancer
  114. @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    But on the legality question–telling other people they can not have an abortion–the debate, while not “lost”, has certainly trended, strongly the other way.
    Telling people they cannot skip out on child support is as popular as ever. And what is an abortion, if not the ultimate such skipping-out? As with many other issues, the mistake is in framing it as a matter of rights rather than of duties.

    Note that many of the same "pro-choice" legislators have been pushing, or at least voting, to add women to the Selective Service registry. Their respect for women's bodily autonomy is rather suspect.

    Replies: @deep anonymous

    Note that many of the same “pro-choice” legislators have been pushing, or at least voting, to add women to the Selective Service registry. Their respect for women’s bodily autonomy is rather suspect.

    I strongly suspect that most of them also favored or even demanded compulsory “vaccination” during the COVID debacle. So much for the notion of “Our bodies, our choice.”

    •�Agree: Colin Wright
  115. @dcthrowback
    @J.Ross

    ***Wired

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Billboards already up in Detroit: “I’m a Trump supporter. I love the constitution. I’m voting for Harris.”

  116. @Peter Akuleyev
    @J.Ross

    The fact that you posted that makes you weird. This is exactly what the Dems are talking about. The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @AnotherDad, @mc23, @Wilkey

    Stealing luggage at an airport isn’t a private act.

  117. @Jonathan Mason
    There are a number of issues that ought to be debated between the campaigns, including immigration, border control, health insurance, fentanyl, abortion, birth control drug prices, Ukraine, Israel-Palestine, NATO, Iran, climate change, and certainly the deficit. The Big D.

    Britain's new labor government is squealing because they claim that when they checked the books there was a big hole in the National finances, and the government was spending about 6 billion pounds a year of unfunded spending on asylum expenses.

    It would be interesting to know how much the USA Federal government and state governments are spending on making provisions for people seeking asylum, and how much it would cost to implement a program of mass deportations.

    Both campaigns should have their feet held to the fire to explain what they plan to do about the deficit and the aging population.

    Unfortunately most of the mass media are more interested in the horse race aspect of the election as opposed to the alternative policy choices.

    And unfortunately the candidates on both sides seem to be content to behave like 3-year-olds saying my daddy can beat up your daddy.

    There also seems to be a preoccupation with the family backgrounds of the various candidates, rather than asking what they stand for, what policies they support, and what relevant experience they bring to the table.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @J.Ross

    If it’s not genocidal hatred, what would motivate a government to go massively into debt to accomodate invaders?

    •�Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @J.Ross

    Just trying to do the decent thing and comply with international treaties.

    In the UK many supposed asylum seekers have been accommodated in hotels rather than given tents on abandoned airfields.

    Of course you could argue that this also provides a massive subsidy to the hotel and catering industry, so some of the money spent by the government would come back in VAT.

    I don't think there is any deliberate plan to bankrupt the country by mollycoddling so-called asylum seekers, but obviously if any country takes on a significant percentage of its population as asylum seekers, then the standard of living for all will be lowered.

    Replies: @bomag, @Gordo, @Gandydancer
  118. Ennui says:
    @Wilkey
    @Ennui


    Blacks are just props, bit players in a morality tale/ Manichean blood and destruction fantasies. This goes back before Jewish rise to power, back before Marx. This goes back to the Puritans.
    Oh sure, blame my people.

    This has jack squat to do with the Puritans. There probably isn't a single person with significant Puritan ancestry at any of the major media/tech companies now pushing Kamala Harris, or pushing B.O. back in 2008. They are all Jewish, Asian, DEI blacks, and Others.

    This is about political games men have been playing against each other for millennia. Hell, even the ancient Babylonians were relocating people around their empire for the purposes of political control. Were the ancient Babylonians Puritans, as well?

    Replies: @Ennui, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    How did Kamala and the Jews come to power? Who made the system they flourish in?

    To your other point, how was Hammurabi anything like New Englanders or Whigs in terms of his political rhetoric and eschatology? Using another group to play power politics is not what is going on here. This isn’t the Ottomans using the Janissaries, the Brits using the Parsees or Rajputs, or Abbasids using Turkish slave soldiers.

  119. Anonymous[357] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Wilkey
    @Anon

    I have no idea what the best law on abortion is, but the fact that many Republican state legislators immediately went to "Ban all abortions" and "Ban Plan B" and "Women should bear their rapists' babies!" didn't really help matters much.

    Abortion is a bad thing not necessarily just because it kills babies, but because it changes the whole relationship dynamic between men and and women. People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it. Face it: a huge percentage of all people born in the past weren't "planned." Yet most of the people born of those unplanned pregnancies wound up living happy, productive, amazing lives. I've known college professors, lawyers, corporate veeps, ad infinitum who were "unplanned." I've had several friends who decided to keep their unplanned pregnancies, and most of them are still married and the kids are just fine.

    Hell, even a few presidents (for better or worse) were from unplanned pregnancies.

    Pregnancy used to force young man and women to make important, grownup decisions - decisions with extremely important ramifications for this country (see: population bust). But now between birth control and abortion, no one has to do that anymore.

    Being opposed to abortion is a losing issue, though I wish it weren't. But still there are a few things Republicans could do to make it less of a liability than it is.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Peter Akuleyev, @Anonymous, @Corvinus

    “Abortion is a bad thing not necessarily just because it kills babies, but because it changes the whole relationship dynamic between men and and women. People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it.”

    Last night Mayor Pete bragged about this on White Dudes for Kamala:

    “Men are more free when women have access to abortion.”
    –Pete Buttigieg

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Anonymous


    “Men are more free when women have access to abortion.”
    –Pete Buttigieg
    The irony is that in his case, the remark is blatantly hypocritical.

    In what way is Buttigieg more free if women can have abortions? It'd be like me talking about how great it is to have a new golf course. I don't golf.
  120. But what about that other election?

    •�Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @Joe Stalin

    Oh, great, more Venezuelans for the US! And not the ones being scouted by MLB.
    , @Gandydancer
    @Joe Stalin


    Protesters are throwing Molotov cocktails at a building in which Maduro’s thugs, the so-called Colectivos are holed up in
    Looks rather more like Molotov cocktails are being thrown off of a building into the street. Where are snipers when you need them?
  121. OT: Mass murder in UK. Two children killed and 11 other wounded in knife attack at a Seaside near Liverpool. Something’s fishy. No name. No mugshot. No place of birth, just the trivia point that he was “originally from Cardiff”. Source: WSJ.

    •�Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Father Coughlin


    Two children killed...
    It's up to three now. The killer's age is given as 17, so the police are probably bound by law from saying more.

    Could be a misogynist incel. Could be an anti-white rage thing-- who else but white girls would attend a Taylor Swift-themed event? Could be a Paki-- it was a yoga class, after all.

    One victim had a Portuguese name:


    https://people.com/southport-stabbing-taylor-swift-themed-event-victims-identified-8685573
    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Father Coughlin

    Tell me who did it without telling me who did it, or more precisely, tell me who did it by refusing to tell me who did it.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Father Coughlin

    Guy was born in Cardiff to Rwandan parents.

    As I type, people in Southport are burning police vans and attacking a mosque.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2024/jul/30/southport-stabbing-latest-knife-attack-children-hospital-merseyside

    "Protesters shouted that another group across the road were trying to storm a nearby mosque.

    As a police van burst into flames, riot police armed with dogs and shields pushed the crowd back.

    Amid shouts of “dogs”, hundreds of people began running backwards, but some turned to confront police, pulling down a crumbling wall to use the bricks as weapons, pelting them at officers. Others ripped open black bin bags, looking for objects to throw.

    As spectators watched from front gardens, crouching behind cars, riot officers with batons raised shouted “move”, sending them scattering into the protest.

    As crowds dispersed the smell of burning filled the air, while some of the men walked away covered in blood from confrontations with police."

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    , @Jonathan Mason
    @Father Coughlin

    Apparently an English born, actually Welsh born if you want to be finicky, child of African immigrants from Rwanda.

    This evening there has been rioting in Southport apparently targeted at a nearby mosque.

    It is not clear to me if the family from Rwanda living in a village close to Southport were Muslims. Maybe.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast
  122. If somebody wanted to, they could turn the root concept of this ad into 10, 1 hour episodes, mini-series.

    And while showing all the mug shots, you could scroll the names of the millions of negro criminals at the bottom, like a stock ticker, and never repeat the same name twice.

    I’ve been saying it for years, if you look at the stats honestly, one could make a very good case to intern black males from about 13-40. Literally lock all of them up.

    The crime rate would plummet overnight!

    •�Replies: @anonymous
    @Dr. Rock


    intern black males from about 13-40
    I was once on an inmate bus full of black guys being transported to Santa Rita. A guy next to me, about 40, says, "man, I'm tired a goin' to jail fo', five times a year. I'm gonna turn over a new leaf."

    Replies: @anonymous
    , @Prester John
    @Dr. Rock

    "...one could make a very good case to intern black males from about 13-40. Literally lock all of them up."

    Uhh, somehow I don't think it would fly.

    Replies: @Colin Wright
  123. @Peter Akuleyev
    @J.Ross

    The fact that you posted that makes you weird. This is exactly what the Dems are talking about. The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @AnotherDad, @mc23, @Wilkey

    You typed three sentences. All three were erroneous. Care to type a forth?

  124. @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    But the question is why are Times readers committed Dems? I suggest that the abortion issue is a big reason.

    On an article about Harris replacing Biden, about a third of the comments were anti-Harris.

    Yet most will still vote for her and one reason is abortion.

    The Times also ran story about a woman in a non-abortion state: the child she was carrying was doomed: it had a genetic defect that meant it wouldn’t live more than a few weeks.

    In this particular case the doctors also recommended abortion because of some kind of problem with her ability to carry a future pregnancy,

    But the abortion board in her state turned her down. This was clearly an unusual case: with a rare genetic defect and the woman having a problem with the pregnancy. But the Times hunted and found a case like this just to whip up their readers.

    Note that in Canada there is no political party running on an anti-abortion plank. It’s that unpopular.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @TWS, @vinteuil, @mc23, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    Right. The New York Times readers are liberal democrats or even socialist because the Republicans want to not kill children. Maybe they are losing that reasonable middle ground euthanasia demographic as well. Do you personally know anyone who voted for Nixon?

    •�Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @TWS

    Do you personally know anyone who voted for Nixon?
    Yes
  125. @Steve Sailer
    @Elsewhere

    The way to do it is to pick a starting date well out into the future so that you can't figure out which party will be advantaged, such as 2033. And then grandfather in everybody currently on the Supreme Court until they die.

    Replies: @Renard, @Wilkey, @Bernard, @Colin Wright, @Corvinus

    The way to do it is to pick a starting date well out into the future so that you can’t figure out which party will be advantaged, such as 2033. And then grandfather in everybody currently on the Supreme Court until they die.

    I agree with this method and its ultimate outcome, however it seems impossible to imagine getting the necessary majorities for this, or any proposition, in 2024 America.

  126. Venezuela Cinema Verité!

  127. Hey, look! A (grey) squirrel! A black has been charged with a hate crime!

    Man arrested, charged in death of 14-year-old found dismembered near Shenango River Lake

    Actually, I’m assuming DaShawn Watkins is black– various spellings of “DeSean” have been found to be the blackest of boys’ names, and Jake the whitest. (Jacob Blake is apparently an outlier. I once met a white Maceo, too.) And an English surname (“son of little Walter”) in hunky small-town Pennsylvania pretty much nails it.

    But it might not be T-directed straight hate at all, just a garden variety aggressive queer sex crime:

    Gay Man Allegedly Dismembered A 14-Year-Old Boy He Met On An LGBT Sex App

    Basically, Dahmer-without-the-meal: “I didn’t dismember him because I hated him. I dismembered him because I loved him.”

    •�Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Reg Cæsar

    Each man kills the thing he loves?

    "It was one of Wilde's."
  128. @Father Coughlin
    OT: Mass murder in UK. Two children killed and 11 other wounded in knife attack at a Seaside near Liverpool. Something’s fishy. No name. No mugshot. No place of birth, just the trivia point that he was “originally from Cardiff”. Source: WSJ.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @YetAnotherAnon, @Jonathan Mason

    Two children killed…

    It’s up to three now. The killer’s age is given as 17, so the police are probably bound by law from saying more.

    Could be a misogynist incel. Could be an anti-white rage thing– who else but white girls would attend a Taylor Swift-themed event? Could be a Paki– it was a yoga class, after all.

    One victim had a Portuguese name:

    https://people.com/southport-stabbing-taylor-swift-themed-event-victims-identified-8685573

  129. @AnotherDad
    @anonguy


    That is the only way to combat abortion. Make having kids pay. Ethical appeals will only go so far and it won’t be far enough.
    Taking "combat abortion" as "higher fertility", I do not believe this is the case.

    I definitely support having a huge child deduction. A deduction--not a credit--as I'm looking to boost eugenic fertility, fertility from smart healthy productive normies who would like to have more children, but are discouraged by costs.

    However, I think the evidence suggests that economic incentives really are not the driver. Obviously there are incentives--ex. 100% tax on singles/childless--that mathematically will work. But the more typical incentives that have been tried various places do not tend to move the needle much.

    Rather it is a cultural/emotional thing. People they like children and when their culture says "kids are great!" So kaganovitch--Yeshiva Orthodox--has a few dozen grandchildren with more to come, while I--American secular--have (currently) zero. (Though AnotherDaughter and AnotherSonInLaw are fixing up the kitchen this summer and "thinking about it".)

    Again ... selection. All over the civilized world there is heavy selection for "breeders"--personality and culture--going on. The problem we have in the West is this is being swamped by the immivasion.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @RadicalCenter, @Bernard, @scrivener3

    So kaganovitch–Yeshiva Orthodox–has a few dozen grandchildren with more to come, while I–American secular–have (currently) zero. (Though AnotherDaughter and AnotherSonInLaw are fixing up the kitchen this summer and “thinking about it”.)

    Good luck with that Dad, I know it’s important to you, I wish you well.

  130. @AnotherDad
    @anonguy


    That is the only way to combat abortion. Make having kids pay. Ethical appeals will only go so far and it won’t be far enough.
    Taking "combat abortion" as "higher fertility", I do not believe this is the case.

    I definitely support having a huge child deduction. A deduction--not a credit--as I'm looking to boost eugenic fertility, fertility from smart healthy productive normies who would like to have more children, but are discouraged by costs.

    However, I think the evidence suggests that economic incentives really are not the driver. Obviously there are incentives--ex. 100% tax on singles/childless--that mathematically will work. But the more typical incentives that have been tried various places do not tend to move the needle much.

    Rather it is a cultural/emotional thing. People they like children and when their culture says "kids are great!" So kaganovitch--Yeshiva Orthodox--has a few dozen grandchildren with more to come, while I--American secular--have (currently) zero. (Though AnotherDaughter and AnotherSonInLaw are fixing up the kitchen this summer and "thinking about it".)

    Again ... selection. All over the civilized world there is heavy selection for "breeders"--personality and culture--going on. The problem we have in the West is this is being swamped by the immivasion.

    Replies: @RadicalCenter, @RadicalCenter, @Bernard, @scrivener3

    In Sweden, pregnant women and new mothers are entitled to various benefits to support them during this period. Here are some key aspects:

    Pregnancy Benefit: Insured women can receive 25%, 50%, 75%, or 100% of their work income during pregnancy, up to a maximum amount.
    Maternity Leave: Sweden offers one of the most generous maternity leave policies globally, providing up to 480 days of leave. For joint leave, each parent has the right to 240 days, with 90 days reserved for each parent and the remaining days transferable.
    Flexibility: Parents can choose to work part-time and claim partial benefits for the remaining time off, as outlined in the “Part-Time Leave Options” table.
    Duration: The standard maternity leave duration is 16 weeks, but parents can take up to 480 days, including 60 days of parental leave that can be taken until the child is 12 years old.
    Eligibility: To receive parental benefits, parents must be covered by social insurance in Sweden and have a child residing in Sweden, or living in the EU/EEA or Switzerland.

    According to the provided search results, the birth rate in Sweden has been declining over the years. Here are some key points:

    In 2023, the total fertility rate (TFR) in Sweden fell to 1,449 children per 1,000 women, the lowest since measurements began in 1749 (Source: Xinhua).
    The crude birth rate in Sweden was at its lowest point for several years in 2022 (Source: Statistics Sweden).
    The fertility rate for Sweden in 2021 was 1.846 births per woman, a 0.05% decline from 2020 (Source: unknown).
    The fertility rate for Sweden in 2022 was 1.844 births per woman, a 0.11% decline from 2021 (Source: unknown).
    The fertility rate for Sweden in 2023 was 1.843 births per woman, a 0.05% decline from 2022 (Source: unknown).

  131. TWS says:
    @AnotherDad
    Well, it's about something. That's good. And something visceral. That's even better.

    The problem is it's about bail. Which is something you are entitled to. It's right there in the 8th Amendment to the Constitution: "Excessive bail shall not be required." So some judge decided these criminals were bailable ... and the mau-mauing minoritarians were merely making sure there was no "income discrimination" or something.

    More disgusting was the Parasite Party's whole encouragement of riot--"You should be really mad! Covid has been suspended ... just for you to go out and riot!"--after the George Floyd OD. Whip up riot and disorder in support of a lie.


    But what the election should be most about is the far, far, far more destructive "Open Border Tsar Kamala Harris's" open border. Unfortunately the real destruction isn't captured in mug shots. It's in the destruction of "Affordable Family Formation" for young Americans, and long term simply the destruction of the American nation, who we are.

    It's a harder ad to make, but Trump needs to find people who can make it. And get the American people--the persuadable ones--to see that the "Biden Harris Administration" is a treasonous cabal waging war upon the American people and our posterity.

    Replies: @Griff, @TWS, @Gandydancer, @Jack D

    Nobody, nobody, not your spouse, not your child, not your mother is required to post your bail. Harris decided in her own little chicken brain to post bail and to encourage others to post bail for Dirtbags.

    Now everyone else who posted bail for those spiteful mutants owns everything they did while on bail and what they did afterwards reflects on them forever.

    •�Agree: Jack D
  132. The new conventional wisdom about the Willie Horton ad is that Willie himself was the victim. At the time they objected to using this horrific criminal in an ad, but didn’t suggest Willie himself was a victim, but whatdya know

  133. Right now on 4chan’s politics board there are at least twenty self-defeatingly obvious shill threads just on the theme “Trump is wierd,” with at least six of those being the mysterious copium where the shill explains to the audience how effective the “wierd” campaign is. This spam is easily defeated by recognizing shills as shills or by using the word filter in the settings tab at the top of the page.
    They don’t seem to have innovated anything new, but are just doubling down on procedures from eight years ago.

  134. @Father Coughlin
    OT: Mass murder in UK. Two children killed and 11 other wounded in knife attack at a Seaside near Liverpool. Something’s fishy. No name. No mugshot. No place of birth, just the trivia point that he was “originally from Cardiff”. Source: WSJ.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @YetAnotherAnon, @Jonathan Mason

    Tell me who did it without telling me who did it, or more precisely, tell me who did it by refusing to tell me who did it.

  135. @fnn
    @Peter Akuleyev

    But the Democrats can offer the promise of nuclear war with Russia and no one seems bothered. The level of pro-war hysteria is way down in the US, but the Brits continue to be excited. Nothing gets them going like a good war.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Frau Katze

    To your point, I highly suggest reading Tom Sharpe in the Telegraph. There isn’t a person on the planet more ginned up for war both with Hezbollah and Russia. He writes long tedious columns on weapons systems that would seem to be more at home in Jane’s Defense Weekly but have been normalized in the bloodthirsty English media. His English readers all seem to jerk off to his ramblings. I can’t think of a single American newspaper that runs crap like this.

  136. Actually the Willie Horton story was first deployed against Dukakis by Richard Gephardt in the Democratic primary in Massachusetts. It was became racist only after the issue was adopted by Bush in the general.

  137. fnn says:
    @Mr. Anon
    @Peter Akuleyev


    @J. Ross

    The fact that you posted that makes you weird. This is exactly what the Dems are talking about. The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.
    Nonsense. It isn't weird and it isn't "obsessing about other people's sexual preferences* to remind people that the Biden administration went out of it's way to appoint ridiculous, disgusting perverts to responsible positions in the government. It was a big F**k You to regular, square America.

    You are playing into the whole tactic - or perhaps you are a willing partisan of that tactic - to introduce weird, marginal, degenerate topics into the national discourse and then, when called out on it, to whine "why are you being so divisive"?

    Replies: @fnn

    That low IQ ex-high school football coach Minnesota governor (who looks and talks like the late Gus Hall of CPUSA) was the one chosen to kick off the “weird” campaign. Perfect guy to project a false image of normality. Gus came across like a dumber and slightly more boring version of Hubert Humphrey.

  138. @Mr. Anon
    @Anon


    OT: One by one, conservative pundits are coming to terms with the fact that the abortion thing is an albatross around conservatism’s neck.
    At the national level, yes. At the state and local level, not necessarily.

    Strict anti-abortion laws function as liberal-repellant. They will help keep Red states Red.

    Replies: @Anon, @deep anonymous

    Strict anti-abortion laws function as liberal-repellant. They will help keep Red states Red.

    Until 18 years later when the kids who would have been aborted grow up.

  139. @Mark G.
    Off topic: The national debt just reached 35 trillion dollars. It previously hit 34 trillion dollars in January, increasing by a trillion dollars in the last seven months. It is over two trillion dollars higher than 12 months ago. According to Fortune magazine, government spending is crowding out private investment. Private investing is 30% lower than in the year 2000. Also, the dollar has lost 50% of its value since 2000 as the government has been printing up money to cover the deficits.

    The CBO projects that in 2034 the national debt will be 50 trillion dollars and yearly interest payments will be 1.7 trillion dollars. It also projects in 2034 the Social Security trust fund will run out of money, followed by 23% benefit cuts. This will be followed two years later in 2036 by the Medicare trust fund running out of money.

    The number of retired people over 65 will go from 35 million in 2000 to 82 million in 2040. The ratio of workers to retirees will go from 5:1 in 2000 down to only 2.5:1 in 2040.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous, @Colin Wright, @AnotherDad, @Jonathan Mason, @Pixo, @Anonymous

    I’d take zero migration policy over a balanced budget.

    •�Agree: AnotherDad
    •�Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Pixo


    I’d take zero migration policy over a balanced budget.
    Well and simply said.

    MarkG--libertarian--is going to focus on these big government issues. But they are dwarfed by biological issue.

    The salient economic fact is the US is consuming about 5% more--in dollar terms--than it produces. (I'd guess something more like 15% in terms of real goods.) But the US still produces a lot--not as much as China, but still a lot. To close the gap, we should get more people back to work actually producing real stuff--not on welfare, disability, etc. but also not in "girls with BAs" b.s. jobs, extra bureaucracy, extra lawyering, extra finance--with adequate capital and high productivity. (Americans with machines not this endless parade of Latinos with picks and shovels.) But America--and America of Americans--can produce what we consume. And the rest is accounting.

    The problem is that requires "Americans". We have no magic dirt that makes random people from Haiti, Guatemala, Nigeria--or even India and China--into Americans and keeps it all humming along. And even if we did have such Magic Dirt ... what is the point of giving your nation over to some other people's posterity instead of your own?
    , @Mark G.
    @Pixo

    "I'd take zero migration policy over a balanced budget."

    Why can't you have both?

    If we ended all immigration but kept in place a large welfare state and and an interventionist foreign policy that leads to endless overseas wars and a huge expensive military, this country is still going to have problems.

    We used to have a a country where the people living in it realized this. Calvin Coolidge signed the 1924 immigration act reducing immigration. However, at the same time, he also reduced government spending and balanced the budget. He and his predecessor Harding also rejected a Wilsonian foreign policy that would engage in attempts at nation building abroad. We need to start looking for Republicans more like that to vote into office.
    , @Corvinus
    @Pixo

    “I’d take zero migration policy over a balanced budget”

    How about over family formation policy? You had stated “Targeting natalist policies toward the married upper middle class while cutting single mother welfare would yellow and whiten the next generation, even if that isn’t the intent.”

    That’s certainly one option. So what exactly are these socialist politics? And, of course, you are excluding tens of millions of worthy (white) Americans, specifically those in flyover/Appalachia country. Why?

    Replies: @Pixo
  140. Yes, she’s easy on the guilty. But, as a prosecutor, she was harsh on the innocent. One intriguing charge from those days– made by local progressives themselves– is that she deliberately kept exonerated men in the penal system in order to keep their labor.

    In other words, she would be the first president since Grant and Johnson to have engaged in enslavement since Grant and Andrew Johnson. Grant got his via marriage, and later did as much as anyone to destroy the slave economy. Johnson helped push the Thirteenth Amendment over the ratification threshold. What’s Kamala’s excuse?

    This isn’t her only contradiction. She comes off as a ditz and a pushover, but word is that behind closed doors, she’s an abusive manager. You want this monster telling you what to do?

  141. @Anonymous
    Really poor choice of mug shots. A lot of the faces actually look sympathetic, not criminal or menacing.

    Replies: @Cindy, @QCIC, @Gandydancer, @Jay Fink

    A lot of the faces actually look sympathetic, not criminal or menacing.

    You are out of your mind.

  142. Dumbo says:
    @Anon
    OT: One by one, conservative pundits are coming to terms with the fact that the abortion thing is an albatross around conservatism's neck.

    https://twitter.com/VDAREJamesK/status/1816601709667356864

    https://twitter.com/pearlythingz/status/1817508945990234607

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey, @Mr. Anon, @Dumbo, @Gandydancer, @Catdog

    What are “conservatives” conserving, if they can’t even “conserve” life? What is “conservative” about a movement with no values whatsoever, except maybe “beating Democrats”?

    Have those people noticed that the white birth rate is on the pits, and it’s mostly because of feminism (abortion, pill, sexual freedom, etc)?

    Also, this “H. Pearl Davis” chick is insufferable. Taking advice from her is really dumb. I wouldn’t call her a “conservative pundit”, just an attention whore with emphasis on whore.

    Anyway, abortionists are stupid.

    •�Replies: @Anon
    @Dumbo


    Have those people noticed that the white birth rate is on the pits, and it’s mostly because of feminism (abortion, pill, sexual freedom, etc)
    They might have noticed how after you banned abortion the white birth rate didn't go up.
  143. @Peter Akuleyev
    @Wilkey

    People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it

    This is exactly why being anti-abortion is a losing issue politically. Are voters going to choose the party offering guilt free sex or the party preaching that only people prepared to take on grown up responsibilities (expensive responsibilities as well) should have sex?

    Replies: @fnn, @Reg Cæsar

    This is exactly why being anti-abortion is a losing issue politically.

    “This is exactly why [reining in the welfare state] is a losing issue politically.”

    Are voters going to choose the party offering guilt free sex or the party preaching that only people prepared to take on grown up responsibilities (expensive responsibilities as well) should have sex?

    “Are voters going to choose the party offering [work-] free [benefits] or the party preaching that only people prepared to take on grown up responsibilities (expensive responsibilities as well) should have [a safety net]?”

    You could repeat this for all kinds of issues. LBJ beats Goldwater every time. It’s two wolves and a sheep voting for breakfast. A 19th-century Frenchman said once the gates to the treasury have been breached, they can only be closed again with gunpowder.

    Note that the 55-year-old pro-life movement has always been female-dominated, and any greater support for elective abortion among women than among men is a relatively new phenomenon. The grassroots opposition to “marriage equality” has been called “a girls’club” by one of its leaders.

    Men nearly ratified the ERA, until women heroically stopped them at the last minute. (And get no credit today.) Women are fundamentally conservative politically. But what the younger ones want to conserve is the degeneracy they have grown up under and know nothng other than.

    Ever notice what has always been missing from the 101-year-old Equal Rights Amendment? It’s pretty obvious– and telling– when you read it…

    [MORE]

    Any reference to responsibility, or obligation, or duty. This is not an oversight.

  144. @Steve Sailer
    @Elsewhere

    The way to do it is to pick a starting date well out into the future so that you can't figure out which party will be advantaged, such as 2033. And then grandfather in everybody currently on the Supreme Court until they die.

    Replies: @Renard, @Wilkey, @Bernard, @Colin Wright, @Corvinus

    ‘The way to do it is to pick a starting date well out into the future so that you can’t figure out which party will be advantaged, such as 2033. And then grandfather in everybody currently on the Supreme Court until they die.’

    Unless the idea is to somehow appease the Left — and good luck on that — I fail to see the need for anything at all.

    Life terms are good. You don’t want people who are prey to the latest trend; you want at least some old codgers who remember the way it was back in the day. I don’t want a Supreme Court consisting solely of people who were chosen within the last eighteen years; if that were the case now, the oldest member would have been confirmed in 2006.

    One wants, for example, someone who remembers how Reagan’s amnesty for illegals didn’t work, or what the situation was like before Roe v. Wade, or crime in the Eighties. You don’t want a court where no one remembers anything earlier than the Clinton years.

    •�Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Colin Wright

    "You don’t want a court where no one remembers anything earlier than the Clinton years."

    I'd be satisfied with a court that actually remembers 1787-89.

    Replies: @Colin Wright
  145. @Peter Akuleyev
    @J.Ross

    The fact that you posted that makes you weird. This is exactly what the Dems are talking about. The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @AnotherDad, @mc23, @Wilkey

    The fact that you posted that makes you weird. This is exactly what the Dems are talking about. The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.

    Peter, i don’t like looking at J. Ross’s post–wish he’d skipped it. But your post is the one that’s off base.

    This guy isn’t some turnip off in “doing his own thing” in some queer corner of NY or SF. He’s someone the Democrats imposed upon us as a public official who loves to advertise his degeneracy.

    I don’t know how you’re wired, but it annoys me. For greater Germania–of which the Anglo-Sphere is a part–we expect to elect/follow leaders who are strong, healthy, sane, wise, brave–the best among our tribe. We have a visceral dislike of being bossed around by fools, queers, weirdos, weaklings, whiners, mutants, creeps, dumb shits. Nor do we want that shit rubbed in our face.

    America is supposed to be led by George Washington, not Kamala Harris–nor this sort of human garbage that they rub in our face.

    This is just how we are–thanks God! You don’t like it or get it fine. Like I’ve said, we really are at an impasse, where we are separate peoples and belong in separate nations.

    •�Agree: Gandydancer
  146. @fnn
    @Peter Akuleyev

    But the Democrats can offer the promise of nuclear war with Russia and no one seems bothered. The level of pro-war hysteria is way down in the US, but the Brits continue to be excited. Nothing gets them going like a good war.

    Replies: @Bragadocious, @Frau Katze

    But the Democrats can offer the promise of nuclear war with Russia…

    Economic sanctions are not nuclear war.

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    'Economic sanctions are not nuclear war.'
    No -- but blowing up pipelines, apparently sanctioning terrorist attacks, and giving the Ukrainians missiles capable of firing deep into Russia does head down that road.

    It's really bizarre. Back in the day, we confronted Russia when it was necessary -- that's why they never got much of anywhere. But we avoided unnecessary or useless disputes if at all possible: Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1968. No, we didn't want to remake Level Seven as a documentary.

    Now, we seem to think it's all good clean fun. And the irony is the same group of people who are pushing the forever war now -- the Jewish commentariat -- were the ones pushing detente et al back then. It's hard to come up with a presentable motive for that.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @HA
    , @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    Indeed, sanctions are harmless and meaningless. Pro-NATO propagandists consistently push for nuking Russia, arguing that Russia doesn't have nukes (wrong). I'd like to think they're alone in this crazy talk, but then they're not an organic group of voters expressing real opinions: somebody hired them and approves of their messages.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @HA
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Frau Katze


    Economic sanctions are not nuclear war.
    They are however an act of war.
    , @Gandydancer
    @Frau Katze


    Economic sanctions are not nuclear war.
    Economic sanctions didn't work. Now NATO is edging towards the next step.

    PARIS (AP) — French President Emmanuel Macron appeared isolated on the European stage this week after saying the possibility of Western troops being sent to Ukraine could not be ruled out, a comment that prompted an outcry from other leaders.

    French officials later sought to clarify Macron’s remarks and tamp down the backlash, while insisting on the need to send a clear signal to Russia that it cannot win in Ukraine.

    The Kremlin warned that if NATO sends combat troops, a direct conflict between the alliance and Russia would be inevitable. Russian President Vladimir Putin said such a move would risk a global nuclear conflict.
    If Ukraine cannot defeat Russia (and it can't) how else is NATO going to stop Russia from winning in Ukraine without taking further steps in the direction of nuclear war? Yes, "other leaders" still demur, but the progression has been going in one direction for all that.

    Replies: @Frau Katze
  147. @Pixo
    @Mark G.

    I’d take zero migration policy over a balanced budget.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Mark G., @Corvinus

    I’d take zero migration policy over a balanced budget.

    Well and simply said.

    MarkG–libertarian–is going to focus on these big government issues. But they are dwarfed by biological issue.

    The salient economic fact is the US is consuming about 5% more–in dollar terms–than it produces. (I’d guess something more like 15% in terms of real goods.) But the US still produces a lot–not as much as China, but still a lot. To close the gap, we should get more people back to work actually producing real stuff–not on welfare, disability, etc. but also not in “girls with BAs” b.s. jobs, extra bureaucracy, extra lawyering, extra finance–with adequate capital and high productivity. (Americans with machines not this endless parade of Latinos with picks and shovels.) But America–and America of Americans–can produce what we consume. And the rest is accounting.

    The problem is that requires “Americans”. We have no magic dirt that makes random people from Haiti, Guatemala, Nigeria–or even India and China–into Americans and keeps it all humming along. And even if we did have such Magic Dirt … what is the point of giving your nation over to some other people’s posterity instead of your own?

  148. @Father Coughlin
    OT: Mass murder in UK. Two children killed and 11 other wounded in knife attack at a Seaside near Liverpool. Something’s fishy. No name. No mugshot. No place of birth, just the trivia point that he was “originally from Cardiff”. Source: WSJ.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @YetAnotherAnon, @Jonathan Mason

    Guy was born in Cardiff to Rwandan parents.

    As I type, people in Southport are burning police vans and attacking a mosque.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2024/jul/30/southport-stabbing-latest-knife-attack-children-hospital-merseyside

    “Protesters shouted that another group across the road were trying to storm a nearby mosque.

    As a police van burst into flames, riot police armed with dogs and shields pushed the crowd back.

    Amid shouts of “dogs”, hundreds of people began running backwards, but some turned to confront police, pulling down a crumbling wall to use the bricks as weapons, pelting them at officers. Others ripped open black bin bags, looking for objects to throw.

    As spectators watched from front gardens, crouching behind cars, riot officers with batons raised shouted “move”, sending them scattering into the protest.

    As crowds dispersed the smell of burning filled the air, while some of the men walked away covered in blood from confrontations with police.”

    •�Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    UK police chief:

    "We have already said that the person arrested was born in the UK and speculation helps nobody at this time."

    Replies: @Gandydancer
  149. anonymous[304] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. Rock
    If somebody wanted to, they could turn the root concept of this ad into 10, 1 hour episodes, mini-series.

    And while showing all the mug shots, you could scroll the names of the millions of negro criminals at the bottom, like a stock ticker, and never repeat the same name twice.

    I've been saying it for years, if you look at the stats honestly, one could make a very good case to intern black males from about 13-40. Literally lock all of them up.

    The crime rate would plummet overnight!

    Replies: @anonymous, @Prester John

    intern black males from about 13-40

    I was once on an inmate bus full of black guys being transported to Santa Rita. A guy next to me, about 40, says, “man, I’m tired a goin’ to jail fo’, five times a year. I’m gonna turn over a new leaf.”

    •�Replies: @anonymous
    @anonymous


    I was once on an inmate bus full of black guys being transported to Santa Rita. A guy next to me, about 40, says, “man, I’m tired a goin’ to jail fo’, five times a year. I’m gonna turn over a new leaf.”
    The key to bringing errant negroes to heel is… Time.

    Following 20 years in prison, the negro's testosterone level decreases, the musculature atrophies, social agency is significantly and forever diminished. It’s very difficult for an ex-con to "run with the negroes" at 45 years of age. That is a young negro's game. Time in prison won’t carry a lot of street cred at that age.

    Prison is just the modern gentleman's answer to castration, which has been a method of retarding the hardcore negro's inclination to destroy, for thousands of years. It was the standard go-to method of Muslim slave traders, who've had far more direct experience with negro slave trading than the west by a longshot, dwarfing the United States, and even South America in numbers during their slave periods, and easily to this very day.

    Replies: @Anonymous
  150. @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    But the question is why are Times readers committed Dems? I suggest that the abortion issue is a big reason.

    On an article about Harris replacing Biden, about a third of the comments were anti-Harris.

    Yet most will still vote for her and one reason is abortion.

    The Times also ran story about a woman in a non-abortion state: the child she was carrying was doomed: it had a genetic defect that meant it wouldn’t live more than a few weeks.

    In this particular case the doctors also recommended abortion because of some kind of problem with her ability to carry a future pregnancy,

    But the abortion board in her state turned her down. This was clearly an unusual case: with a rare genetic defect and the woman having a problem with the pregnancy. But the Times hunted and found a case like this just to whip up their readers.

    Note that in Canada there is no political party running on an anti-abortion plank. It’s that unpopular.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @TWS, @vinteuil, @mc23, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    Hi, Mistress Pussy.

    How’re you doing?

    •�Thanks: Mike Tre
    •�Troll: Colin Wright
    •�Replies: @Mike Tre
    @vinteuil

    Careful bub, you're going to trigger all the thirsty boomers here who compete for that dimwit's attention.

    Question: How do you distract and deceive a couple dozen otherwise intelligent men from the actual discussion?

    Answer: Send in the Hard 5 (looks and intelligence) wearing sensible shoes!
  151. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Father Coughlin

    Guy was born in Cardiff to Rwandan parents.

    As I type, people in Southport are burning police vans and attacking a mosque.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2024/jul/30/southport-stabbing-latest-knife-attack-children-hospital-merseyside

    "Protesters shouted that another group across the road were trying to storm a nearby mosque.

    As a police van burst into flames, riot police armed with dogs and shields pushed the crowd back.

    Amid shouts of “dogs”, hundreds of people began running backwards, but some turned to confront police, pulling down a crumbling wall to use the bricks as weapons, pelting them at officers. Others ripped open black bin bags, looking for objects to throw.

    As spectators watched from front gardens, crouching behind cars, riot officers with batons raised shouted “move”, sending them scattering into the protest.

    As crowds dispersed the smell of burning filled the air, while some of the men walked away covered in blood from confrontations with police."

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    UK police chief:

    “We have already said that the person arrested was born in the UK and speculation helps nobody at this time.”

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @YetAnotherAnon


    UK police chief:

    “We have already said that the person arrested was born in the UK and speculation helps nobody at this time.”
    Speaking of helping nobody, if you don't want speculation how about telling us the truth?

    This kind of hiding of the truth is of course on much larger display in the US currently in the Feds hiding the details of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump without, mostly, any shadow of justification for doing so.

    And of course the fact that the child murderer in the UK is the spawn of "asylum seekers" begs the question of whether that actually makes him a Brit. It doesn't, of course. His rootlessness is a personal tragedy, but why that is a problem that actual Brits ought to have to sacrifice in order to solve is non-obvious.
  152. @Renard
    And Greg Lewin lol. Straight from Central Casting.

    PS. Right after this tone-deaf Trump ad, YouTube offers me videos about lynching. Hmm.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    Right after this tone-deaf Trump ad, YouTube offers me videos about lynching. Hmm

    YouTube knows you. Are these “lynching” vids crowding out the Emmett Till ones? If that’s the case the Trump ad isn’t tone deaf, it’s just not directed at the likes of you.

  153. @Anonymous
    @Wilkey

    “Abortion is a bad thing not necessarily just because it kills babies, but because it changes the whole relationship dynamic between men and and women. People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it.”


    Last night Mayor Pete bragged about this on White Dudes for Kamala:

    "Men are more free when women have access to abortion."
    --Pete Buttigieg

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    “Men are more free when women have access to abortion.”
    –Pete Buttigieg

    The irony is that in his case, the remark is blatantly hypocritical.

    In what way is Buttigieg more free if women can have abortions? It’d be like me talking about how great it is to have a new golf course. I don’t golf.

  154. @Anon
    OT: One by one, conservative pundits are coming to terms with the fact that the abortion thing is an albatross around conservatism's neck.

    https://twitter.com/VDAREJamesK/status/1816601709667356864

    https://twitter.com/pearlythingz/status/1817508945990234607

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey, @Mr. Anon, @Dumbo, @Gandydancer, @Catdog

    [Trump] is getting nothing for it from pro-lifers and it will probably cost the GOP everything.

    Probably not. And not reading Roe into the Constitution is anyway the right thing to do. I say this as someone who is generally pro-abortion (though I’m not remotely a “pro-choice” nutter). We need to get out from under the thumb of the kritarchy and there’s no better time than now.

  155. @Frau Katze
    @fnn


    But the Democrats can offer the promise of nuclear war with Russia…
    Economic sanctions are not nuclear war.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @J.Ross, @Mr. Anon, @Gandydancer

    ‘Economic sanctions are not nuclear war.’

    No — but blowing up pipelines, apparently sanctioning terrorist attacks, and giving the Ukrainians missiles capable of firing deep into Russia does head down that road.

    It’s really bizarre. Back in the day, we confronted Russia when it was necessary — that’s why they never got much of anywhere. But we avoided unnecessary or useless disputes if at all possible: Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1968. No, we didn’t want to remake Level Seven as a documentary.

    Now, we seem to think it’s all good clean fun. And the irony is the same group of people who are pushing the forever war now — the Jewish commentariat — were the ones pushing detente et al back then. It’s hard to come up with a presentable motive for that.

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright


    No — but blowing up pipelines, apparently sanctioning terrorist attacks, and giving the Ukrainians missiles capable of firing deep into Russia does head down that road.
    No one knows who did the pipeline job.

    The Ukrainians wouldn’t need such missiles if Putin hadn’t invaded the country.

    If you want peace, why support an aggressor like Putin?

    This whole “Putin is the good guy” schtick is another sentiment endemic on Unz but not one I see elsewhere. Even at the conservative WSJ, there’s little sympathy for him (none editorially, and only the occasional commenter).

    Replies: @vinteuil, @vinteuil, @Colin Wright
    , @HA
    @Colin Wright

    " But we avoided unnecessary or useless disputes if at all possible: Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1968."

    Remind us, what agreements not to invade did Moscow violate when it invaded fellow members of the Warsaw Pact?

    And back then -- i.e. 1956 is 3 years after the CIA helped oust Mosaddegh -- both sides of the Cold War had no problem with brutish shenanigans, though even then, rolling our tanks onto neighboring populations was something we generally frowned upon. And after the Cold War ended, we were supposed to put that behind us. You may denounce the invasion of Iraq, and I wouldn't complain, but Bush spent over a year building an international consensus to do what he did, precisely so as to try and distinguish himself from the king of bullying the Soviets showed in Prague and Budapest.

    If you want to be all touchy when it comes to the neo-cons brutalizing other countries, don't sit back and complain about poor little Putin not getting enough sympathy. It's not a good look. How does that even need explaining?

    "blowing up pipelines, apparently sanctioning terrorist attacks, and giving the Ukrainians missiles capable of firing deep into Russia does head down that road...."

    Yeah, get back to us when we launch a special military operation and roll tanks into Cuba to liberate all those Guantanameras and add their star onto the 50 others in the flag...and then, on top of that, threaten to nuke the rest of the world if they get in the way.Your moral equivalences show a distinct skew.

    Replies: @Colin Wright
  156. Campaign ads? CAMPAIGN ADS? We don’t need to steenkin’ campaign ads!

    Folks, you could campaign on a chicken in every pot, it doesn’t matter. The election is going to be decided in mostly Dem controlled swing states which ALL, every one of them, have compromised election systems.

    The Dems are already funding and rolling out ballot harvesting operations. They have the people in place, the compliant state laws (check out Pennsylvania, which has basically made voting legal for anybody that feels like voting), and a blissfully unconcerned Republican party.

    They are stealing the election again. That’s why they dumped Biden. A win for him would seem too improbable. So now we get Kamala, with an instant 24�7 media hagiography campaign on pre-set themes (obviously MONTHS in preparation) and we’ve entered plausible territory, complete with phony polls, celebrity endorsements, etc. (Though it must have been annoying to re-print all those pre-Biden voted ballots!)

    If Trump doesn’t have a very, very good plan to prevent the ballot harvesting and fake votes, he loses again. No matter what his campaign.

    In other words, it’s over. He’s losing. Plus, Dems will take an unstoppable majority in both Houses. I said a long while back that 2024 would be the last election. I’m pretty sure I’m right. Though admittedly I thought they’d shove in Gavin “The Skin Suit” Newsom, but looks like they’re going with the slutty idiot.

  157. @Ennui
    @Wilkey

    It isn't about blacks, it's never been about blacks, it's about Angloid hubris and internal purges. The real target has always been those stiff-necked whites who would not conform. Those wretches predetermined by God for eternal damnation.

    Blacks are just props, bit players in a morality tale/ Manichean blood and destruction fantasies. This goes back before Jewish rise to power, back before Marx. This goes back to the Puritans.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @mc23

    This goes back before Jewish rise to power, back before Marx. This goes back to the Puritans.

    Did Steve spot a pattern or start a trend?

  158. @Pixo
    @Mark G.

    I’d take zero migration policy over a balanced budget.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Mark G., @Corvinus

    “I’d take zero migration policy over a balanced budget.”

    Why can’t you have both?

    If we ended all immigration but kept in place a large welfare state and and an interventionist foreign policy that leads to endless overseas wars and a huge expensive military, this country is still going to have problems.

    We used to have a a country where the people living in it realized this. Calvin Coolidge signed the 1924 immigration act reducing immigration. However, at the same time, he also reduced government spending and balanced the budget. He and his predecessor Harding also rejected a Wilsonian foreign policy that would engage in attempts at nation building abroad. We need to start looking for Republicans more like that to vote into office.

    •�Agree: Colin Wright, Travis
  159. mc23 says:
    @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    But the question is why are Times readers committed Dems? I suggest that the abortion issue is a big reason.

    On an article about Harris replacing Biden, about a third of the comments were anti-Harris.

    Yet most will still vote for her and one reason is abortion.

    The Times also ran story about a woman in a non-abortion state: the child she was carrying was doomed: it had a genetic defect that meant it wouldn’t live more than a few weeks.

    In this particular case the doctors also recommended abortion because of some kind of problem with her ability to carry a future pregnancy,

    But the abortion board in her state turned her down. This was clearly an unusual case: with a rare genetic defect and the woman having a problem with the pregnancy. But the Times hunted and found a case like this just to whip up their readers.

    Note that in Canada there is no political party running on an anti-abortion plank. It’s that unpopular.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @TWS, @vinteuil, @mc23, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    There have been opportunities since Roe vs Wade was first decided for the Democrats to secure abortion through legislation. They’ve never done so. Any national abortion rights bill passed would have required minor compromises but I’ve seen it suggested the real reason is the Democrats want abortion to be an issue.

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @mc23

    Canada is different from the US in that it has a single criminal code for the whole country, whereas the US has a lot more state variation.

    I’m sure there are Canadians who would like to outlaw abortion but they don’t have the numbers.

    Ironically former Catholic Quebec is now quite socially liberal.
  160. @Peter Akuleyev
    @J.Ross

    The fact that you posted that makes you weird. This is exactly what the Dems are talking about. The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @AnotherDad, @mc23, @Wilkey

    I don’t mind if my leaders wear women’s underwear but I demand they acquire it honestly.

    •�Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @mc23

    Like "at a closeout sale at Loehmann's."

    Replies: @kaganovitch
  161. To join Hollywood, Angelina Jolie had to perform Satanic rituals.

  162. @Frau Katze
    @fnn


    But the Democrats can offer the promise of nuclear war with Russia…
    Economic sanctions are not nuclear war.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @J.Ross, @Mr. Anon, @Gandydancer

    Indeed, sanctions are harmless and meaningless. Pro-NATO propagandists consistently push for nuking Russia, arguing that Russia doesn’t have nukes (wrong). I’d like to think they’re alone in this crazy talk, but then they’re not an organic group of voters expressing real opinions: somebody hired them and approves of their messages.

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    No one is pushing for war with Russia.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @The Germ Theory of Disease
    , @HA
    @J.Ross

    "Pro-NATO propagandists consistently push for nuking Russia..."

    No, nobody outside of Moscow is threatening to push the button on any nuclear launches. Even China has told Moscow to knock it off.

    We're talking about stuff like this:

    "Attempts to restore Russia's 1991 borders will lead only to one thing - a global war with Western countries with the use of OUR entire strategic (nuclear) arsenal against Kyiv, Berlin, London, and Washington."... Medvedev said in a reference to the triad of intercontinental ballistic missiles, submarine-launched ballistic missiles, and strategic bombers with nuclear weapons. (emphasis added)
    When Medvedev mentions "the use of OUR entire strategic arsenal", it's pretty clear to anyone other than loony fanboys who is actually pushing for nukes. And let me guess: despite all that, it's STILL somehow Washington's fault, am I right?

    Replies: @Gandydancer
  163. @J.Ross
    @Jonathan Mason

    If it's not genocidal hatred, what would motivate a government to go massively into debt to accomodate invaders?

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Just trying to do the decent thing and comply with international treaties.

    In the UK many supposed asylum seekers have been accommodated in hotels rather than given tents on abandoned airfields.

    Of course you could argue that this also provides a massive subsidy to the hotel and catering industry, so some of the money spent by the government would come back in VAT.

    I don’t think there is any deliberate plan to bankrupt the country by mollycoddling so-called asylum seekers, but obviously if any country takes on a significant percentage of its population as asylum seekers, then the standard of living for all will be lowered.

    •�Replies: @bomag
    @Jonathan Mason


    Just trying to do the decent thing and comply with international treaties.
    Wasn't that, basically, the argument for going into WWI?

    Not sure that demographic-shifting immigration is a decent thing.

    International treaties should not be a suicide pact.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    , @Gordo
    @Jonathan Mason

    There are no genuine asylum seekers in the UK.

    Asylum seekers, according to the United Nations, must stop in the first safe country.

    There is not one genuine asylum seeker in the United Kingdom, not one.
    , @Gandydancer
    @Jonathan Mason


    Just trying to do the decent thing and comply with international treaties.
    Decent to whom? The British government ought to be first concerned to be decent to it;s own citizens, who ought not be burdened with taking care of bogus "asylum seekers" and their spawn, and if any international treaty requires them to do that then the decent thing to do is withdraw from it.
  164. @Father Coughlin
    OT: Mass murder in UK. Two children killed and 11 other wounded in knife attack at a Seaside near Liverpool. Something’s fishy. No name. No mugshot. No place of birth, just the trivia point that he was “originally from Cardiff”. Source: WSJ.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @YetAnotherAnon, @Jonathan Mason

    Apparently an English born, actually Welsh born if you want to be finicky, child of African immigrants from Rwanda.

    This evening there has been rioting in Southport apparently targeted at a nearby mosque.

    It is not clear to me if the family from Rwanda living in a village close to Southport were Muslims. Maybe.

    •�Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @Jonathan Mason


    Apparently an English born, actually Welsh born if you want to be finicky
    Americans.

    This evening there has been rioting in Southport apparently targeted at a nearby mosque.
    https://twitter.com/BBCbreakingNewt/status/1818389786618478860

    Replies: @Gandydancer
  165. ‘This evening there has been rioting in Southport apparently targeted at a nearby mosque.

    It is not clear to me if the family from Rwanda living in a village close to Southport were Muslims. Maybe.’

    According to Wikipedia, only 2% of the population of Rwanda is Muslim. Unless there’s something here I don’t know, it’s unreasonable to react by attacking the nearest mosque.

    It of course reflects my own biases, but I’ve long noticed that Europeans express their hostility towards immigrants by attacking Islam — even though African blacks per se are far worse than Muslims per se. Europeans are frightened of being labelled racist.

    That’s one fear they’re going to need to get over if they want to survive.

    •�Agree: Sir Jacob Rees-Dogg
    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Colin Wright


    According to Wikipedia, only 2% of the population of Rwanda is Muslim. Unless there’s something here I don’t know, it’s unreasonable to react by attacking the nearest mosque.
    I believe there were bogus reports that the murderer had a different, Muslim, name. This is a downside of attempting to conceal his actual name. He appears instead, if The Liverpool Echo can be trusted to have gotten this right, to be from a Christian family.

    Neighbours have said the family are “heavily involved with the local church”, and they would often hear singing from their house, the Liverpool Echo reported.
    https://www.scotsman.com/news/crime/who-is-teenager-axel-rudakubana-charged-with-triple-murder-over-southport-stabbing-at-taylor-swift-themed-club-4725685
  166. Anonymous[262] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    But the question is why are Times readers committed Dems? I suggest that the abortion issue is a big reason.

    On an article about Harris replacing Biden, about a third of the comments were anti-Harris.

    Yet most will still vote for her and one reason is abortion.

    The Times also ran story about a woman in a non-abortion state: the child she was carrying was doomed: it had a genetic defect that meant it wouldn’t live more than a few weeks.

    In this particular case the doctors also recommended abortion because of some kind of problem with her ability to carry a future pregnancy,

    But the abortion board in her state turned her down. This was clearly an unusual case: with a rare genetic defect and the woman having a problem with the pregnancy. But the Times hunted and found a case like this just to whip up their readers.

    Note that in Canada there is no political party running on an anti-abortion plank. It’s that unpopular.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @TWS, @vinteuil, @mc23, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    As a former Democrat and devoted Times reader, I can tell you the reason that I was committed to the Dems, and it wasn’t abortion. It was the belief that Republicans were Bad Whites and I wanted to be on the side of the Good Whites and POC. I am embarrassed to admit it was really that simple.

    •�Thanks: Ron Mexico
  167. @anonymous
    @anonymous

    I remember back in 2016, early on in the Trump run, I reference this scene below, when I’d tell my liberal friends that they were underestimating Trump. I felt just like that guy watching Rocky on TV. I tried to tell 'em!

    Trump was down in the pits, working his ass off, while Hillary was showing up in public when she felt like it, talkin’ major shit, while planning her win in advance.

    I’ve always maintained that busting your ass, doing more than is reasonably expected of you, can beat experience, and even talent. It can work like magic. I know because I’ve done it. It doesn’t always work. Treachery is powerful too, as we’ve seen, but it works enough to maintain as a strategy, especially since most people, especially liberals, won’t do it. You win by forfeit.

    The problem with most liberals is they don’t know from personal experience the power of busting your ass, since most of them have never done it, so to them, it just… can’t be!!

    I've always maintained that's forever their Achilles heel. They are a silly, lazy people by nature.

    https://youtu.be/pjX20gL-rnc

    Replies: @Currahee

    Great scene, Stallone a true artist.

  168. @Jonathan Mason
    @Father Coughlin

    Apparently an English born, actually Welsh born if you want to be finicky, child of African immigrants from Rwanda.

    This evening there has been rioting in Southport apparently targeted at a nearby mosque.

    It is not clear to me if the family from Rwanda living in a village close to Southport were Muslims. Maybe.

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

    Apparently an English born, actually Welsh born if you want to be finicky

    Americans.

    This evening there has been rioting in Southport apparently targeted at a nearby mosque.

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Cagey Beast

    Where is the X-poster getting the "at the vigil for the 10 girls in Southport" bit? Or the machete? The murderer appears to be of Rwandan Christian origin, btw. Probably his parents should not have been let in, but connecting some random arrest of some Arab-looking guy is probably just a shit-stirring stupidity IMHO. As is believing everything you read just because it fits with your priors.
  169. Anonymous[174] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Mark G.
    Off topic: The national debt just reached 35 trillion dollars. It previously hit 34 trillion dollars in January, increasing by a trillion dollars in the last seven months. It is over two trillion dollars higher than 12 months ago. According to Fortune magazine, government spending is crowding out private investment. Private investing is 30% lower than in the year 2000. Also, the dollar has lost 50% of its value since 2000 as the government has been printing up money to cover the deficits.

    The CBO projects that in 2034 the national debt will be 50 trillion dollars and yearly interest payments will be 1.7 trillion dollars. It also projects in 2034 the Social Security trust fund will run out of money, followed by 23% benefit cuts. This will be followed two years later in 2036 by the Medicare trust fund running out of money.

    The number of retired people over 65 will go from 35 million in 2000 to 82 million in 2040. The ratio of workers to retirees will go from 5:1 in 2000 down to only 2.5:1 in 2040.

    Replies: @Anon, @Anonymous, @Colin Wright, @AnotherDad, @Jonathan Mason, @Pixo, @Anonymous

    No worries, the average American has no idea how much a trillion dollars is.

    It would take 31,963 years of continuous counting to count from 1 to a trillion.

  170. HA says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    @Peter Akuleyev


    ...who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.
    This is about the sartorial preferences of someone working for the US Office of Nuclear Energy. We are, or were, paying "their" salary. Are you saying taxpayers don't have a right to demand a dress code? Or that their public servants be minimally sane?

    Would you trust this individual with spent fuel in your neighborhood?

    Replies: @HA

    “This is about the sartorial preferences of someone working for the US Office of Nuclear Energy. We are, or were, paying ‘their’ salary. Are you saying taxpayers don’t have a right to demand a dress code?”

    I think “were paying” is more correct than “are paying”:

    For the second time in three months, Brinton stands accused of stealing a woman’s suitcase from an airport luggage carousel. He has now been suspended from his government role and is facing a hefty fine with a possible custodial sentence.

    Whereas if you do a search on “MTG crotch video” (or worse yet, “Matt Gaetz reacts to MTG crotch video”) you’re going to get an eyeful of people still mind-bogglingly employed by the establishment. Have I mentioned the presidential candidate who tells his escorts they remind him of his daughter?

    Speaking of which, Matt Gaetz’s “doc, gimme a double-dose of everything you got” approach to plastic surgery bespeaks a dysmorphia right up there with whatever is messing with Brinton.

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @HA

    Nope. Nothing you brain-dead Leftys point to is remotely comparable to Brinton. And, anyway, neither MTG or Gaetz or Trump were hired, they were elected and nobody other than their electorate can fire them. The Dems knowingly HIRED Beinton and the tranny Admiral BECAUSE the Dems are normalizing mentally defective perversions. Things which are different are not the same.

    Replies: @HA
  171. @J.Ross
    https://i.postimg.cc/FRnwB0d9/1722305585463966.png

    Replies: @Peter Akuleyev, @mc23

    Seeing people saying Trump is Wryd, a Norse or Anglo-Saxon word , conveying a force of fate or destiny.

    With Trump, the word in this sense carries some freight. Love or hate, he’s a force of nature. It’s palpable since Trumps brush with death.

    •�LOL: Renard
  172. @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    But the question is why are Times readers committed Dems? I suggest that the abortion issue is a big reason.

    On an article about Harris replacing Biden, about a third of the comments were anti-Harris.

    Yet most will still vote for her and one reason is abortion.

    The Times also ran story about a woman in a non-abortion state: the child she was carrying was doomed: it had a genetic defect that meant it wouldn’t live more than a few weeks.

    In this particular case the doctors also recommended abortion because of some kind of problem with her ability to carry a future pregnancy,

    But the abortion board in her state turned her down. This was clearly an unusual case: with a rare genetic defect and the woman having a problem with the pregnancy. But the Times hunted and found a case like this just to whip up their readers.

    Note that in Canada there is no political party running on an anti-abortion plank. It’s that unpopular.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @TWS, @vinteuil, @mc23, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    Note that in Canada there is no political party running on an anti-abortion plank. It’s that unpopular.

    Which is odd, because Morgentaler came down 15 years after Roe. Parliament was told by the court– based on a constitution on which the ink hadn’t quite dried– to rewrite the law from scratch. No Parliament has since done so, leaving the country with no law whatsoever, other than general medical practice standards.

    This sounds less like principle than cowardice. In the Roe/Morgentaler era, laws throughout Europe were stricter than in North America. Not as strict as opponents would like, but enough to horrify any North American “prochoicer” were the same to be proposed over here. Evidently, this was the result of democratic, legislative deliberation.

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Reg Cæsar

    I didn’t really follow the history of abortion in Canada while it was happening.

    In the days when Quebec was still heavily Catholic it would have been impossible. But that’s all disappeared now (kind of like Ireland).
    , @Gandydancer
    @Reg Cæsar


    ...leaving the country with no law whatsoever, other than general medical practice standards.
    ...such as the ones being weaponized to remove Jordan Peterson's ability to practice psychiatry, which clarifies that phrase considerably..
  173. @Frau Katze
    @Anon

    I read a lot of reader comments at NYT (on certain articles).

    Whenever the election comes up, the commenters bring up abortion. It’s a totally losing plank for Republicans.

    Replies: @epebble, @Colin Wright, @kaganovitch, @Rapparee, @Mr. Anon

    Moloch doesn’t have a good long-term track record of giving wins to his devotees. Compare the ongoing contemporary influence of Rome and the prophets of Yahweh to the influence of Carthage and the prophets of Ba’al. Safe to say opposing him always puts one on the winning side in the long run.

  174. @mc23
    @Frau Katze

    There have been opportunities since Roe vs Wade was first decided for the Democrats to secure abortion through legislation. They've never done so. Any national abortion rights bill passed would have required minor compromises but I've seen it suggested the real reason is the Democrats want abortion to be an issue.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    Canada is different from the US in that it has a single criminal code for the whole country, whereas the US has a lot more state variation.

    I’m sure there are Canadians who would like to outlaw abortion but they don’t have the numbers.

    Ironically former Catholic Quebec is now quite socially liberal.

  175. @Reg Cæsar
    @Frau Katze


    Note that in Canada there is no political party running on an anti-abortion plank. It’s that unpopular.
    Which is odd, because Morgentaler came down 15 years after Roe. Parliament was told by the court-- based on a constitution on which the ink hadn't quite dried-- to rewrite the law from scratch. No Parliament has since done so, leaving the country with no law whatsoever, other than general medical practice standards.

    This sounds less like principle than cowardice. In the Roe/Morgentaler era, laws throughout Europe were stricter than in North America. Not as strict as opponents would like, but enough to horrify any North American "prochoicer" were the same to be proposed over here. Evidently, this was the result of democratic, legislative deliberation.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Gandydancer

    I didn’t really follow the history of abortion in Canada while it was happening.

    In the days when Quebec was still heavily Catholic it would have been impossible. But that’s all disappeared now (kind of like Ireland).

  176. @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    Indeed, sanctions are harmless and meaningless. Pro-NATO propagandists consistently push for nuking Russia, arguing that Russia doesn't have nukes (wrong). I'd like to think they're alone in this crazy talk, but then they're not an organic group of voters expressing real opinions: somebody hired them and approves of their messages.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @HA

    No one is pushing for war with Russia.

    •�LOL: Renard
    •�Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Frau Katze


    No one is pushing for war with Russia.
    Some people clearly are doing just that.
    , @TWS
    @Frau Katze

    And with that statement, everything you write can safely be consigned to 'Tiny Duck' territory. You've demonstrated true cat lady irrelevancy.
    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Frau Katze

    "No one is pushing for war with Russia."

    Then why is there a war with Russia?

    Replies: @Frau Katze
  177. @Jonathan Mason
    @J.Ross

    Just trying to do the decent thing and comply with international treaties.

    In the UK many supposed asylum seekers have been accommodated in hotels rather than given tents on abandoned airfields.

    Of course you could argue that this also provides a massive subsidy to the hotel and catering industry, so some of the money spent by the government would come back in VAT.

    I don't think there is any deliberate plan to bankrupt the country by mollycoddling so-called asylum seekers, but obviously if any country takes on a significant percentage of its population as asylum seekers, then the standard of living for all will be lowered.

    Replies: @bomag, @Gordo, @Gandydancer

    Just trying to do the decent thing and comply with international treaties.

    Wasn’t that, basically, the argument for going into WWI?

    Not sure that demographic-shifting immigration is a decent thing.

    International treaties should not be a suicide pact.

    •�Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @bomag


    International treaties should not be a suicide pact.
    I certainly agree with that, but politicians who have raised the question of withdrawing from the United Nations Convention on Refugees have not been able to get any traction.

    If I remember correctly, the conservative politician in the UK Suella Braverman trial ballooned that angle, and it never got off the ground.

    I haven't heard Trump even mention the subject.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/26/un-suella-braverman-refugee-convention-unhcr-migration
  178. Federal judge in New Jersey found that the state’s Assault Firearms Law as applied to AR-15s is unconstitutional under the 2nd Amendment.

    @michaeldimartino1004
    2 hours ago
    He allowed every other part of the ban to stand. There are at least 30 other rifles banned by name in this law as well as “evil features” and ten round magazines. He threw us a crumb.

  179. @Wilkey
    @Ennui


    Blacks are just props, bit players in a morality tale/ Manichean blood and destruction fantasies. This goes back before Jewish rise to power, back before Marx. This goes back to the Puritans.
    Oh sure, blame my people.

    This has jack squat to do with the Puritans. There probably isn't a single person with significant Puritan ancestry at any of the major media/tech companies now pushing Kamala Harris, or pushing B.O. back in 2008. They are all Jewish, Asian, DEI blacks, and Others.

    This is about political games men have been playing against each other for millennia. Hell, even the ancient Babylonians were relocating people around their empire for the purposes of political control. Were the ancient Babylonians Puritans, as well?

    Replies: @Ennui, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Main tenet of conservatism is about individual responsibility. But it’s everyone else’s fault except you own.

    We Dindu Nuffin. It’s the Jews.

    You Guys All Look The Same.

    •�Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    Main tenet of conservatism is about individual responsibility. But it’s everyone else’s fault except you own.
    Whereas those Opium Wars...

    Replies: @Cagey Beast
    , @Colin Wright
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    'You Guys All Look The Same...'
    It's perhaps beside the point, but Goebbels was from the Rhineland, while I believe Manstein was of Prussian and Polish ancestry. Pretty far apart, and really, united by little but a common language.

    'We've got nothing in common with you black-haired bastards from the other side of the Elbe.'

    A Prussian sergeant, quoted in Guy Sajer's The Forgotten Soldier.

    Replies: @Wielgus
    , @Torna atrás
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    It never pulls at my heart strings much when people whine about how evil it was to nuke Japan. The Japs inflicted dozens of Hiroshima's worth of death and suffering upon the Koreans, Filippinos, Indonesians, Vietnamese, Indians, and Chinese.

    I’d rather take pity on those people than the Japanese when I’m a sympathetic mood. Japan could have backed down and left Korea if they were so saintly and cared more about human life than their ego and honor. They weren’t. And they didn’t.

    Japan made the wrong choice and they paid for it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
  180. @Steve Sailer
    @Elsewhere

    The way to do it is to pick a starting date well out into the future so that you can't figure out which party will be advantaged, such as 2033. And then grandfather in everybody currently on the Supreme Court until they die.

    Replies: @Renard, @Wilkey, @Bernard, @Colin Wright, @Corvinus

    The Trump Ad is old news. Tom Cotton brought it up in 2020. And some low information voters will be led to believe that wide swaths of violent darkies were bailed out and caused mayhem. So the appearance is that Kamala unwittingly supported a group (the MFF) that foolishly bailed out a disproportionate number of vibrants in the wake of the Minneapolis protests. But if we dig deeper into numbers (hey, you’re a numbers guy), here is what we find. I thought you prided yourself on data and context.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Freedom_Fund

    —In 2020 and 2021, efforts in Minnesota were made to reduce inequities in the application of bail, but also to seek greater oversight of the Minnesota Freedom Fund. In December 2020, prosecutors in the Minnesota counties of Hennepin and Washington stopped seeking bail for people charged with nonviolent felonies, which the use of bail had disproportionately effect on people of color. In the 2021 Minnesota Legislative Session, some lawmakers proposed legislation to require bail funds to make public the person or organization that posts bail for certain violent crimes, and to prohibit bail funds from posting bail for people charged with violent crimes or had a prior conviction for violent crime.

    By May 2021, the organization had distributed $19 million for more than 900 criminal and immigration bonds. According to then-leader Greg Lewin in 2020, the bail fund “do not make determinations of bail support based on the crimes that individuals are alleged to have committed”.[2] Co-executive director Mirella Ceja-Orozco had said that the organization does not “judge whether the person had committed a crime or not because that’s what the courts are for”. The fund has drawn criticism for some of the people it bailed out.—

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/03/kamala-harris-tweeted-support-bail-fund-money-didnt-just-assist-protestors/

    According to an accounting by the American Bail Coalition, verified by The Fact Checker with a review of Hennepin County jail records, all but three of the 170 people arrested during the protests between May 26 and June 2 were released from jail within a week. Of the 167 released, only 10 had to put up a monetary bond to be released; in most cases, the amounts were nominal, such as $78 or $100. In fact, 92 percent of those arrested had to pay no bail — and 29 percent of those arrested did not face charges. (The American Bail Coalition is a trade group of insurance companies who profit from underwriting bail bonds.

    MFF “definitely got a windfall,” said Jeffrey J. Clayton, executive director of the American Bail Coalition. “The purpose for what they got the money was not there.” Still, there are some instances of MFF assisting people accused of serious crimes.

    Cotton’s claim that “violent rioters” were released with MFF funds has some basis in fact. But we stumble over Cotton’s additional claim that violent rioters were let out of jail to do more damage. MFF did bail out at least two people charged with attempted murder or burglary during the protests. But there is no evidence they committed additional crimes after being released. His spokesman points to a disturbing case that was unconnected to the protests. But that’s not what Cotton tweeted.

    Moreover, it turns out the MFF was only a bit player in the release of people charged during the protests. The vast majority of people — 92 percent — had to pay no bail. So both Cotton and Trump are wrong to suggest that the donations led to the release of many protesters or rioters.

    At the same time, people who sent millions of dollars to MFF to aid peaceful protesters may be surprised to learn their moneys were not needed in the first place, even if they support elimination of the cash-bail system.

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Corvinus


    The Trump Ad is old news.
    And your point is...? Harris is running now, and reminding people who don't know or barely recall this example of what a POS she is is perfectly appropriate. A campaign ad is not a doctoral thesis and does not require for its educational function that illuminating new research be performed. Yes, the Soros-type DA was even more responsible for the no-bail no-prosecution atrocity that Harris was promoting to give a different impression of her prosecutorial past that was so unpopular with the (D) base, but he's not running for President.
  181. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Wilkey

    Main tenet of conservatism is about individual responsibility. But it's everyone else's fault except you own.

    We Dindu Nuffin. It's the Jews.

    You Guys All Look The Same.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1968-101-20A%2C_Joseph_Goebbels.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-705-0262-06%2C_Ukraine%2C_von_Manstein_und_Speidel.jpg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright, @Torna atrás

    Main tenet of conservatism is about individual responsibility. But it’s everyone else’s fault except you own.

    Whereas those Opium Wars…

    •�Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @Reg Cæsar

    What's your point?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  182. @Pixo
    @Mark G.

    I’d take zero migration policy over a balanced budget.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Mark G., @Corvinus

    “I’d take zero migration policy over a balanced budget”

    How about over family formation policy? You had stated “Targeting natalist policies toward the married upper middle class while cutting single mother welfare would yellow and whiten the next generation, even if that isn’t the intent.”

    That’s certainly one option. So what exactly are these socialist politics? And, of course, you are excluding tens of millions of worthy (white) Americans, specifically those in flyover/Appalachia country. Why?

    •�Replies: @Pixo
    @Corvinus

    The simplest eugenic natalist policy is to increase the deduction for minor dependents.

    Ideally I would make it $25,000 per minor child. So no income tax liability for a couple with $150,000 in income and 4 kids given their personal and other common deductions. But a similar DINK would pay about $25,000 more in federal income taxes.

    There are plenty of upper middle class whites in “flyover” America. Appalachia specifically is demographically irrelevant.

    Replies: @anon, @Corvinus, @Catdog
  183. @Wilkey
    @Anon

    I have no idea what the best law on abortion is, but the fact that many Republican state legislators immediately went to "Ban all abortions" and "Ban Plan B" and "Women should bear their rapists' babies!" didn't really help matters much.

    Abortion is a bad thing not necessarily just because it kills babies, but because it changes the whole relationship dynamic between men and and women. People can shag irresponsibly all day long and never have to worry about an unfortunate pregnancy, because they can simply abort it. Face it: a huge percentage of all people born in the past weren't "planned." Yet most of the people born of those unplanned pregnancies wound up living happy, productive, amazing lives. I've known college professors, lawyers, corporate veeps, ad infinitum who were "unplanned." I've had several friends who decided to keep their unplanned pregnancies, and most of them are still married and the kids are just fine.

    Hell, even a few presidents (for better or worse) were from unplanned pregnancies.

    Pregnancy used to force young man and women to make important, grownup decisions - decisions with extremely important ramifications for this country (see: population bust). But now between birth control and abortion, no one has to do that anymore.

    Being opposed to abortion is a losing issue, though I wish it weren't. But still there are a few things Republicans could do to make it less of a liability than it is.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Peter Akuleyev, @Anonymous, @Corvinus

    Thankfully, the GOP presidential nominee—who has the backing of evangelicals—has a firm track record on where he stands on abortion. Oops.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna146601

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Corvinus


    ''Thankfully, the GOP presidential nominee—who has the backing of evangelicals—has a firm track record on where he stands on abortion. Oops.'
    Wise man. It's not a good issue to be firm on.
  184. @Prester John
    According to Drudge, Harris is going to make the abortion issue her top campaign issue. Surprise!! Meanwhile in other news, America's debt has ballooned to over 35 trillion dollars, with most of the debt held by Total unfunded liabilities (mainly SS and Medicare) are over 73 trillion. According to USAFacts "As of April 2024, the five countries owning the most US debt are Japan ($1.1 trillion), China ($749.0 billion), the United Kingdom ($690.2 billion), Luxembourg ($373.5 billion), and Canada ($328.7 billion)." Not a peep from the MSM of course.

    As Mencken would have put it: We deserve what we get, good and hard!

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘According to Drudge, Harris is going to make the abortion issue her top campaign issue…’

    That shouldn’t be a winner. Assuming the Trump campaign has a brain, all they have to do is select a policy just restrictive enough to make Harris denounce it (no abortions after five months or whatever). Then the birthers will have to vote for Trump as the lesser of two evils, and everyone else this side of San Francisco, Ca will decide that sounds pretty reasonable, and it’s adios Harris.

    Here’s Trump’s opening words. ‘Of course it’s up to the individual states and their voters to determine the laws that will apply in each state, but my personal belief is…’

  185. @Corvinus
    @Wilkey

    Thankfully, the GOP presidential nominee—who has the backing of evangelicals—has a firm track record on where he stands on abortion. Oops.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna146601

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ”Thankfully, the GOP presidential nominee—who has the backing of evangelicals—has a firm track record on where he stands on abortion. Oops.’

    Wise man. It’s not a good issue to be firm on.

    •�Troll: Corvinus
  186. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Wilkey

    Main tenet of conservatism is about individual responsibility. But it's everyone else's fault except you own.

    We Dindu Nuffin. It's the Jews.

    You Guys All Look The Same.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1968-101-20A%2C_Joseph_Goebbels.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-705-0262-06%2C_Ukraine%2C_von_Manstein_und_Speidel.jpg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright, @Torna atrás

    ‘You Guys All Look The Same…’

    It’s perhaps beside the point, but Goebbels was from the Rhineland, while I believe Manstein was of Prussian and Polish ancestry. Pretty far apart, and really, united by little but a common language.

    ‘We’ve got nothing in common with you black-haired bastards from the other side of the Elbe.’

    A Prussian sergeant, quoted in Guy Sajer’s The Forgotten Soldier.

    •�Replies: @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    Manstein was of partly Kashubian ancestry and changed his name from Lewinski, though perhaps partly from worries he might be taken for a Jew.
    Sajer was, I believe, part-French and may have found ethnic origins and outsider status fascinating for that reason. Even a shared German language was not necessarily effective as many until recently at least were more comfortable speaking various dialects, sometimes far removed from standard German. Whether German speakers were Catholic or Lutheran could also trump German identity.

    Replies: @Colin Wright
  187. @Reg Cæsar
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    Main tenet of conservatism is about individual responsibility. But it’s everyone else’s fault except you own.
    Whereas those Opium Wars...

    Replies: @Cagey Beast

    What’s your point?

    •�Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Cagey Beast

    Those are blamed on the Brits. As if Chinese addicts lacked agency.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
  188. HA says:
    @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    Indeed, sanctions are harmless and meaningless. Pro-NATO propagandists consistently push for nuking Russia, arguing that Russia doesn't have nukes (wrong). I'd like to think they're alone in this crazy talk, but then they're not an organic group of voters expressing real opinions: somebody hired them and approves of their messages.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @HA

    “Pro-NATO propagandists consistently push for nuking Russia…”

    No, nobody outside of Moscow is threatening to push the button on any nuclear launches. Even China has told Moscow to knock it off.

    We’re talking about stuff like this:

    “Attempts to restore Russia’s 1991 borders will lead only to one thing – a global war with Western countries with the use of OUR entire strategic (nuclear) arsenal against Kyiv, Berlin, London, and Washington.”… Medvedev said in a reference to the triad of intercontinental ballistic missiles, submarine-launched ballistic missiles, and strategic bombers with nuclear weapons. (emphasis added)

    When Medvedev mentions “the use of OUR entire strategic arsenal”, it’s pretty clear to anyone other than loony fanboys who is actually pushing for nukes. And let me guess: despite all that, it’s STILL somehow Washington’s fault, am I right?

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @HA



    “Attempts to restore Russia’s 1991 borders will lead only to one thing – a global war with Western countries with the use of OUR entire strategic (nuclear) arsenal against Kyiv, Berlin, London, and Washington.”… Medvedev said in a reference to the triad of intercontinental ballistic missiles, submarine-launched ballistic missiles, and strategic bombers with nuclear weapons. (emphasis added)
    When Medvedev mentions “the use of OUR entire strategic arsenal”, it’s pretty clear to anyone other than loony fanboys who is actually pushing for nukes.
    Actually that is as clear as mud. By "for nukes" I take it you mean "the use of nukes", but that makes no sense unless you think Medvedev was advocating for "a global war" in which both sides would use nukes and which Russia could have, if it chose, initiated at any time. Since it didn't it's actually clear that Russia never wanted this. I presume we are relying on the accuracy of some translator motivated to push a literally nonsensical interpretation like yours. I decline to do so.

    Replies: @HA
  189. @Renard
    @epebble


    I think Republicans have benefited from abortion politics and have achieved as much success as can be achieved. It is time to retire that and pick a new topic to fight.
    Great plan, only you have to get the Dems on board. Hint: they're not getting on board. It's their #1 vote getter.

    Fortunately, illegal immigration seems red hot and a surefire vote getter among MAGA electorate.
    And the trouble here — magats aside — is that Republicans are and have always been open-borders fanatics.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “Great plan, only you have to get the Dems on board. …”

    You don’t have to make it easy for them by proposing extreme laws with little public support. Very few people oppose abortions when the woman is otherwise likely to die or when the fetus has little chance of survival. If you make such laws the battleground you are going to get killed.

    •�Agree: Renard
  190. @mc23
    @Peter Akuleyev

    I don't mind if my leaders wear women's underwear but I demand they acquire it honestly.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Like “at a closeout sale at Loehmann’s.”

    •�Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Gary in Gramercy

    Nu, now that Loehmanns has gone out of business, what's a fetishist supposed to do? What we need is a new Federal entitlement.... Perhaps a cabinet level position?
  191. Curle says:
    @Anonymous
    @Curle

    I don't get your point. Naziism was a German/Nordic supremacist ideology: obviously it has "ethnic identification." Fascism is context-dependent. The American right-wing and media megaphone each have an ethnic skew...which is unsurprising, because so does everything else that matters. What are you advocating exactly?

    Replies: @Curle, @Gandydancer

    The American right-wing and media megaphone each have an ethnic skew

    Then call it out as the Gentiles versus the Jews rather than acting ambiguous about whether these are ethnic dominated institutions conforming their behaviors to ethnic interests. A lot of people won’t and don’t get subtlety. Belloc said it or suggested it years ago in his book The Jews that the Tribe benefit from hiding their ethnocentrism. Allowing that state of affairs to continue is not in the best interest of Gentiles and it buries the real question raised by all these wars which is who benefits? At the end of the day what did WW1 and WW2 get my grandfather or any other southern boy? What does the state of Israel mean to the US?

    I’d gladly have seen this country stay out of both wars if it had impeded the empowerment of the open borders crowd.

    •�Agree: Renard, mc23
    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Curle



    The American right-wing and media megaphone each have an ethnic skew

    Then call it out as the Gentiles versus the Jews rather than acting ambiguous about whether these are ethnic dominated institutions conforming their behaviors to ethnic interests.
    The American right wing vs American leftt wing is a Gentile vs Jew conflict only in the warped minds of deranged anti-Semites like you.

    I’d gladly have seen this country stay out of both wars if it had impeded the empowerment of the open borders crowd.
    That was of course not what was the subject of either conflict. Immigration remained considerably restricted until the 1960s or so and got wildly out of control considerably later than that.
  192. @Reg Cæsar
    Hey, look! A (grey) squirrel! A black has been charged with a hate crime!

    Man arrested, charged in death of 14-year-old found dismembered near Shenango River Lake


    Actually, I'm assuming DaShawn Watkins is black-- various spellings of "DeSean" have been found to be the blackest of boys' names, and Jake the whitest. (Jacob Blake is apparently an outlier. I once met a white Maceo, too.) And an English surname ("son of little Walter") in hunky small-town Pennsylvania pretty much nails it.

    But it might not be T-directed straight hate at all, just a garden variety aggressive queer sex crime:

    Gay Man Allegedly Dismembered A 14-Year-Old Boy He Met On An LGBT Sex App

    Basically, Dahmer-without-the-meal: "I didn't dismember him because I hated him. I dismembered him because I loved him."

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    Each man kills the thing he loves?

    “It was one of Wilde’s.”

  193. Pixo says:
    @Corvinus
    @Pixo

    “I’d take zero migration policy over a balanced budget”

    How about over family formation policy? You had stated “Targeting natalist policies toward the married upper middle class while cutting single mother welfare would yellow and whiten the next generation, even if that isn’t the intent.”

    That’s certainly one option. So what exactly are these socialist politics? And, of course, you are excluding tens of millions of worthy (white) Americans, specifically those in flyover/Appalachia country. Why?

    Replies: @Pixo

    The simplest eugenic natalist policy is to increase the deduction for minor dependents.

    Ideally I would make it $25,000 per minor child. So no income tax liability for a couple with $150,000 in income and 4 kids given their personal and other common deductions. But a similar DINK would pay about $25,000 more in federal income taxes.

    There are plenty of upper middle class whites in “flyover” America. Appalachia specifically is demographically irrelevant.

    •�Replies: @anon
    @Pixo


    Ideally I would make it $25,000 per minor child.
    You dont get to do shit Pixo, you weird zionist Palestinian baby killer enthusiast.
    Keep posting on the internet tho.
    , @Corvinus
    @Pixo

    Take your pick—zero immigration or family formation? Which one is more important if you had to choose?

    Your proposal, as I stated earlier, excludes tens of millions of worthy (white) Americans, due to your preferred income level. Why not incorporate poorer (white) Americans?

    “Appalachia specifically is demographically irrelevant”.

    This attitude is anti-white and reeks of elitism. Whites here are suffering. They could use this income boost to help economically revitalize their communities. Yet, you callously dismiss them.

    Replies: @Prester John, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @deep anonymous
    , @Catdog
    @Pixo

    How about $12,500- for each parent?
  194. Curle says:
    @AnotherDad
    @Elsewhere

    I'd suggest 17 years and 17 "justices". The most senior retires every year and the President--with Senate approval--appoints a new one every year. (I.e. in normal operation the President never has "his court".) And they must return to the lower courts once the term is up.

    But also that 9 of them are selected by lot for any given petition and separately for any given case. You could even scale up--34, 51, 68 ...

    The idea would be lower their profile. This idea that our republic is bossed around by these two-bit "Philosopher Kings"--and the worst possible people for that job, lawyers--is appalling.


    Most of all the amendment should have specific language that they are empowered only to follow the law, not decide any social or political issue. (That if they want to do so they should run for office.) And that all foreign policy and immigration issues are outside of their bailiwick. And that it is the duty of Congress to impeach and expel any justice rendering a decision that "makes law".

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Erik L, @Curle

    Your proposal misunderstands the problem. All law is, by necessity, subject to interpretation and there needs to be some end point authority regarding interpretation. The Catholic complaint about Protestantism was that it would result in a plethora of interpretations and they weren’t wrong. It’s one reason we have such variety in interpretations of The Bible in the Protestant world.

    The American judicial system has been further hamstrung by a post-civil war effort at modifying the organizing document of the Union, the constitution, in a way incompatible with the originally agreed structure of that Union that the constitution memorialized. This has rendered much if not most of the document unclear, convoluted and thereby subject to arbitrary application. Greater opacity results in the transfer of power to the seers, the judiciary, who have to peer into the document and extract meaning from it for the purpose of resolving disputes in the here and now.

    The French have been more honest in the way they arranged things. When they found a form of constitutional Republic unsatisfactory they dissolved it and created a new Republic. The US did the same only it sometimes fought a war to change the Union (Civil War) and later pretended it to be an continuance of the prior Republic and at other times the Revolution was effectuated by the courts and the Executive (Roosevelt/New Deal and judicial aftermath). Fiddling with the power of the courts won’t stop an usurper/dictator (Lincoln/Roosevelt) and it is uncertain that those holding power in the US would be willing to put a new constitution before the people for ratification, fearful of the result. The only practical solution is the unsatisfactory one we’ve adopted where every so often the people and their rulers reimagine the past and reinterpret the constitution accordingly.

    •�Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle


    Fiddling with the power of the courts won’t stop an usurper/dictator (Lincoln/Roosevelt)
    Teddy was a usurper? He hired Czolgosz to off McKinley?

    Replies: @Curle
  195. Why is Steve using YouTube when the ad is also on Rumble?
    https://rumble.com/v58y2v1-kamalas-minnesota-freedom-fund.html
    STOP. SUPPORTING. ENEMY. PLATFORMS.

    •�Agree: Bill Jones
  196. @Curle
    @AnotherDad

    Your proposal misunderstands the problem. All law is, by necessity, subject to interpretation and there needs to be some end point authority regarding interpretation. The Catholic complaint about Protestantism was that it would result in a plethora of interpretations and they weren’t wrong. It’s one reason we have such variety in interpretations of The Bible in the Protestant world.

    The American judicial system has been further hamstrung by a post-civil war effort at modifying the organizing document of the Union, the constitution, in a way incompatible with the originally agreed structure of that Union that the constitution memorialized. This has rendered much if not most of the document unclear, convoluted and thereby subject to arbitrary application. Greater opacity results in the transfer of power to the seers, the judiciary, who have to peer into the document and extract meaning from it for the purpose of resolving disputes in the here and now.

    The French have been more honest in the way they arranged things. When they found a form of constitutional Republic unsatisfactory they dissolved it and created a new Republic. The US did the same only it sometimes fought a war to change the Union (Civil War) and later pretended it to be an continuance of the prior Republic and at other times the Revolution was effectuated by the courts and the Executive (Roosevelt/New Deal and judicial aftermath). Fiddling with the power of the courts won’t stop an usurper/dictator (Lincoln/Roosevelt) and it is uncertain that those holding power in the US would be willing to put a new constitution before the people for ratification, fearful of the result. The only practical solution is the unsatisfactory one we’ve adopted where every so often the people and their rulers reimagine the past and reinterpret the constitution accordingly.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Fiddling with the power of the courts won’t stop an usurper/dictator (Lincoln/Roosevelt)

    Teddy was a usurper? He hired Czolgosz to off McKinley?

    •�Replies: @Curle
    @Reg Cæsar


    Teddy
    You had two choices. Was picking the correct one so difficult?

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Bill Jones, @Reg Cæsar
  197. @Frau Katze
    @Pastit


    Well, that ad should rankle many a woke prog…
    Woke progs won’t vote for Trump, ad or no ad.

    It might appeal to a few swing voters.

    Replies: @notbe mk 2

    except the ad was run a bit too early to be decisive. Likely the Trump people are experimenting with what might stick with the some undecideds looking for a weak spot-rattling woke sprogs doesn’t matter, like you said they won’t vote for him anyways.

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @notbe mk 2


    except the ad was run a bit too early to be decisive.
    Nonsense. Ads work by repetition and it's never too early to run them if you want maximum effect. What's needed is not delay but bringing attention to it early and often and to get the (D)s hysterical about it.
  198. @epebble
    The ad might have helped Bush in 1988 since he won handily (426 electoral, 53.4% popular - probably never going to happen again for Republican party). It will be interesting to see how well it will work this time. Trump has already started calling Harris as evil and lunatic. The only way to ratchet it up any further is by using the N word. Mysteriously, nobody is toying with the Birth certificate redux this time, saying she is not a real American etc., I don't know what happened; did they think it didn't work on Obama?

    Replies: @epebble, @Gandydancer

    Well, it happened. My ink was barely dry:

    Trump suggests Harris would struggle with world leaders based on her appearance
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-suggests-harris-would-struggle-with-world-leaders-based-on-her-appearance/ar-BB1qVog8

    Now, did he really think we need additional hint? Like: adding that he didn’t want to spell it out but viewers would know what he meant.

    He is starting to feel he may lose. This is the rabies virus spreading. It will consume him.

    •�Replies: @HA
    @epebble

    "He is starting to feel he may lose. This is the rabies virus spreading. It will consume him."

    He was very confident the Democrats would never get rid of Sleepy Joe, and it's almost certain he wouldn't have gone with Vance if he knew Harris was the main ticket.

    JUN 29 Why Trump wants Biden to stay in the race

    During an interview with Fox News Digital after the debate, Trump was asked if he believes Biden will be the Democratic nominee.

    “Yes, I think he will be the nominee,” the former president answered....The greater question for Team Trump is now: Is it better to run against the “devil you know” than against one you don’t?

    The obvious answer for me — and many I speak with — is that it would be much better for Trump if Biden remains the Democratic nominee. Reason one of course being Biden’s debate disaster... That becomes a huge net-plus for Trump.
    It could all still work out well for him, to where he goes back to being too cocky again. (In particular, as happened before with Hillary, the Democrats might choose to get too cocky first, and that certainly didn't work out well.) But for now, the loss of Biden still stings.

    Replies: @epebble, @Curle, @Patrick McNally
    , @Gandydancer
    @epebble

    Thanks for running with MSN's bullshit interpretation. If you look at the article you link to Trump's actual words are:

    They look at her and they say, ‘We can’t believe we got so lucky.’ They’re going to walk all over her. And I don’t want to say as to why. But a lot of people understand it.
    The "based on her appearance" bit is based on nothing Trump said.

    Replies: @HA, @epebble
  199. Anonymous[282] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Wokechoke
    @Anonymous

    This is a stupid strategy for Trump. Blacks are a lock in for Democratic votes. Trump needs to mobilise whites. Nothing else will work.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    This is a stupid strategy for Trump. Blacks are a lock in for Democratic votes. Trump needs to mobilise whites. Nothing else will work.

    Not enough whites to clinch it, Sparky. If he gets enough intelligent blacks on board–and there’s more of them than you’d probably like to believe–Kamala would have to cheat so much to win, she couldn’t get away with it.

    Besides, if we review Trump’s history, on paper, he’s America’s first black president, and deserves their full support.

    •�Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    If he gets enough intelligent blacks on board–and there’s more of them than you’d probably like to believe
    A better strategy might be to keep the dumb ones on the couch. However, mail-in vote harvesting is a way around that.
  200. anonymous[287] •�Disclaimer says:

    The latest decree is for all liberal thought leaders to refer to Trump as “weird.”

    Presidential hopeful Hawk Tuah even used the term again today like a mental patient…

    Reminds me of Rachel Zegler maliciously trashing Disney and his legacy. Didn’t turn out very well for her. She got kicked off her own movie. Why do liberals still believe the word has some special power?

    https://youtube.com/shorts/supKjF4OF58?si=ApRprT7FuWiRvsn2

    Question: Who specifically, or what group, gets together to make these ridiculous collective liberal mass media decisions?

    It’s… weird!

  201. Totalitarianism is on the march throughout the West.

    Activist Tommy Robinson Arrested Under Terror Provisions After Massive Rally Of British Patriots

    British patriot activist Tommy Robinson is in trouble again for speaking his mind, and the details are rather strange. Robinson (real name Stephen Yaxley-Lennon) was arrested on Sunday at the Eurotunnel terminal in Folkestone by police who used counter-terrorism powers,

    Robinson is best known for his opposition to mass immigration and open border policies in the UK, allowing third world migrants from Islamic countries to flood the nation and overwhelm the indigenous British culture. The UK government has been rabidly pro-migrant for over a decade and has attempted on numerous occasions to censor and intimidate British citizens who speak out against open border policies. Around 40% of London’s population is now made up of migrants, the majority of them with Islamic backgrounds.

    Pro-Islam, pro-migrant and pro-Palestine rallies have become constant fixtures in the UK. The events are regularly painted in a positive light by the media despite violence and mass arrests. Meanwhile, the slander of British patriot marches is widely accepted.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/activist-tommy-robinson-arrested-under-terror-provisions-after-massive-rally-british

  202. OT – Britain is fast becoming a police state and is making war on the British people:

    Activist Tommy Robinson Arrested Under Terror Provisions After Massive Rally Of British Patriots

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/activist-tommy-robinson-arrested-under-terror-provisions-after-massive-rally-british

  203. @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    No one is pushing for war with Russia.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    No one is pushing for war with Russia.

    Some people clearly are doing just that.

  204. @Frau Katze
    @fnn


    But the Democrats can offer the promise of nuclear war with Russia…
    Economic sanctions are not nuclear war.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @J.Ross, @Mr. Anon, @Gandydancer

    Economic sanctions are not nuclear war.

    They are however an act of war.

  205. @Pixo
    @Corvinus

    The simplest eugenic natalist policy is to increase the deduction for minor dependents.

    Ideally I would make it $25,000 per minor child. So no income tax liability for a couple with $150,000 in income and 4 kids given their personal and other common deductions. But a similar DINK would pay about $25,000 more in federal income taxes.

    There are plenty of upper middle class whites in “flyover” America. Appalachia specifically is demographically irrelevant.

    Replies: @anon, @Corvinus, @Catdog

    Ideally I would make it $25,000 per minor child.

    You dont get to do shit Pixo, you weird zionist Palestinian baby killer enthusiast.
    Keep posting on the internet tho.

  206. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Wilkey

    Main tenet of conservatism is about individual responsibility. But it's everyone else's fault except you own.

    We Dindu Nuffin. It's the Jews.

    You Guys All Look The Same.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1968-101-20A%2C_Joseph_Goebbels.jpg

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-705-0262-06%2C_Ukraine%2C_von_Manstein_und_Speidel.jpg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright, @Torna atrás

    It never pulls at my heart strings much when people whine about how evil it was to nuke Japan. The Japs inflicted dozens of Hiroshima’s worth of death and suffering upon the Koreans, Filippinos, Indonesians, Vietnamese, Indians, and Chinese.

    I’d rather take pity on those people than the Japanese when I’m a sympathetic mood. Japan could have backed down and left Korea if they were so saintly and cared more about human life than their ego and honor. They weren’t. And they didn’t.

    Japan made the wrong choice and they paid for it.

    •�Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Torna atrás


    It never pulls at my heart strings much when people whine about how evil it was to nuke Japan.
    It wasn't evil to nuke Japan. It is evil to target non-combatant civilians anywhere. "Collateral damage" is a fig leaf.

    For all their preaching, American progressives are amoral, and this is Exhibit A. Why today's conservatives defend yesterday's progs is beyond me. Such cuckoldry! Even Curtis Lemay admitted he was a war criminal. U.S News called us out just days later:

    Editorial From 1945: What Hath Man Wrought!

    Japan could have backed down and left Korea if they were so saintly and cared more about human life than their ego and honor.

    And we could have negotiated an end to the war had our own "ego and honor" not demanded an unconditional surrender, of which our 79-year streak of raping the locals is a part. U.S. Grant is a war criminal for making such an extreme demand, but somehow Harry Truman is not?
    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Torna atrás

    Russia was the biggest winner of the Opium War.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_in_the_Opium_Wars

    Britain only annexed one city from China, Hong Kong, and made it into one of the wealthest in the world.

    Russia without barely firing a shot, help itself by grabbing more land than the size of Ukraine.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/MANCHURIA-U.S.S.R_BOUNDARY_Ct002999.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amur_Annexation

    The Japanese were shocked by Qing China's defeat by British and Russian imperialists right in front of their doorsteps. And resolved to modernize their nation.

    Meiji leaders borrowed the slogan from Chinese Warring States period-- 富国強兵 ふこくきょうへい "Enrich the Country, Strengthen the Armed Forces".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukoku_kyōhei

    That culminated in defeating China in 1895, and Russia in 1905.

    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61yJCFUdUaL.jpg

    Replies: @Torna atrás
  207. @Cindy
    @Anonymous

    How many antidepressants does a person have to be on for his perception of dangerous faces to be this warped?

    Replies: @Ed Case, @Cloudbuster

    Most of those faces are quite symmetrical.
    Someone posted a quiz on UR this year, women can’t pick criminal faces if the face has good symmetry.

  208. @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle


    Fiddling with the power of the courts won’t stop an usurper/dictator (Lincoln/Roosevelt)
    Teddy was a usurper? He hired Czolgosz to off McKinley?

    Replies: @Curle

    Teddy

    You had two choices. Was picking the correct one so difficult?

    •�Thanks: Bill Jones
    •�LOL: TWS
    •�Replies: @Cagey Beast
    @Curle

    This isn't a conversation, this is just Reg freestyling with his keyboard.
    , @Bill Jones
    @Curle

    Facefook needs the money...

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/meta-agrees-pay-texas-14-billion-settlement-biometric-data-lawsuit
    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle


    You had two choices. Was picking the correct one so difficult?
    The 98.6% of the vote the "correct one" received in Strom Thurmond's state (not to mention John C Calhoun's) doesn't look much like "usurpation". Nor does the 97% he garnered (pardon the expression) in Theodore Bilbo's (not to mention Jefferson Davis's). Especially coming after 3½ years experience. If he was a dictator-- and I'd be the last to disagree there-- it's because that's what he was elected to be.

    Usurper is a word Vermonters might have considered using, or the man's neighbo(u)rs in Dutchess County. Dictator, definitely.

    Thurmond showed how to deal with such characters in 1948. Where was he in 1936? Shining a spare chair. While the one in use was pointed admiringly in the direction of Uncle Joe.

    Replies: @Curle
  209. @J.Ross
    So apparently $200M handed to the forcememe artisans at "Launch Viral" has resulted in the slogans "Kamala is brat" and "Trump is wierd."

    Replies: @bomag, @dcthrowback, @Anon

    “Trump is wierd.”

    The Kamala the Mean Girl phase of the campaign, it seems. Shut up you old bag or Melania will pull your greasy weave.

  210. Anon[295] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    But the question is why are Times readers committed Dems? I suggest that the abortion issue is a big reason.

    On an article about Harris replacing Biden, about a third of the comments were anti-Harris.

    Yet most will still vote for her and one reason is abortion.

    The Times also ran story about a woman in a non-abortion state: the child she was carrying was doomed: it had a genetic defect that meant it wouldn’t live more than a few weeks.

    In this particular case the doctors also recommended abortion because of some kind of problem with her ability to carry a future pregnancy,

    But the abortion board in her state turned her down. This was clearly an unusual case: with a rare genetic defect and the woman having a problem with the pregnancy. But the Times hunted and found a case like this just to whip up their readers.

    Note that in Canada there is no political party running on an anti-abortion plank. It’s that unpopular.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @TWS, @vinteuil, @mc23, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Anon

    The Times also ran story about a woman in a non-abortion state: the child she was carrying was doomed: it had a genetic defect that meant it wouldn’t live more than a few weeks.

    It’s not a child, it’s just a fetus, like a tumor, right? Too much work to go to the next state with abortion-galore rules, it seems.

    Even better, she could go to Canada and get a painless injection for herself, including the unwanted tumor. Then they could meet in … uh, heaven. Yeah, heaven that’s the ticket.

  211. @Curle
    @Reg Cæsar


    Teddy
    You had two choices. Was picking the correct one so difficult?

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Bill Jones, @Reg Cæsar

    This isn’t a conversation, this is just Reg freestyling with his keyboard.

  212. Japan is in the grip of an elderly crime wave – the proportion of crimes committed by people over the age of 65 has been steadily increasing for 20 years.

    At a halfway house in Hiroshima – for criminals who are being released from jail back into the community – 69-year-old Toshio Takata tells me he broke the law because he was poor. He wanted somewhere to live free of charge, even if it was behind bars.

    “I reached pension age and then I ran out of money. So it occurred to me – perhaps I could live for free if I lived in jail,” he says.

    “So I took a bicycle and rode it to the police station and told the guy there: ‘Look, I took this.’”

    [MORE]

    The plan worked. This was Toshio’s first offence, committed when he was 62, but Japanese courts treat petty theft seriously, so it was enough to get him a one-year sentence.

    Small, slender, and with a tendency to giggle, Toshio looks nothing like a habitual criminal, much less someone who’d threaten women with knives. But after he was released from his first sentence, that’s exactly what he did.

    “I went to a park and just threatened them. I wasn’t intending to do any harm. I just showed the knife to them hoping one of them would call the police. One did.”

    Altogether, Toshio has spent half of the last eight years in jail.

    I ask him if he likes being in prison, and he points out an additional financial upside – his pension continues to be paid even while he’s inside.

    “It’s not that I like it but I can stay there for free,” he says. “And when I get out I have saved some money. So it is not that painful.”

    [MORE]

    Toshio represents a striking trend in Japanese crime. In a remarkably law-abiding society, a rapidly growing proportion of crimes is carried about by over-65s. In 1997 this age group accounted for about one in 20 convictions but 20 years later the figure had grown to more than one in five – a rate that far outstrips the growth of the over-65s as a proportion of the population (though they now make up more than a quarter of the total).

    Another example is Keiko (not her real name). Seventy years old, small, and neatly presented, she also tells me that it was poverty that was her undoing.

    “I couldn’t get along with my husband. I had nowhere to live and no place to stay. So it became my only choice: to steal,” she says. “Even women in their 80s who can’t properly walk are committing crime. It’s because they can’t find food, money.”

    We spoke some months ago in an ex-offender’s hostel. I’ve been told she’s since been re-arrested, and is now serving another jail-term for shoplifting.

    Theft, principally shoplifting, is overwhelmingly the biggest crime committed by elderly offenders. They mostly steal food worth less than 3,000 yen from a shop they visit regularly.

    Michael Newman, an Australian-born demographer with the Tokyo-based research house, Custom Products Research Group points out that the “measly” basic state pension in Japan is very hard to live on.

    In a paper published in 2016 he calculates that the costs of rent, food and healthcare alone will leave recipients in debt if they have no other income – and that’s before they’ve paid for heating or clothes. In the past it was traditional for children to look after their parents, but in the provinces a lack of economic opportunities has led many younger people to move away, leaving their parents to fend for themselves.

    “The pensioners don’t want to be a burden to their children, and feel that if they can’t survive on the state pension then pretty much the only way not to be a burden is to shuffle themselves away into prison,” he says.

    The repeat offending is a way “to get back into prison” where there are three square meals a day and no bills, he says.

    “It’s almost as though you’re rolled out, so you roll yourself back in.”

    Newman points out that suicide is also becoming more common among the elderly – another way for them to fulfil what he they may regard as “their duty to bow out”.

    Quote: People have become isolated – they cannot put up with their loneliness

    The director of “With Hiroshima”, the rehabilitation centre where I met Toshio Takata, also thinks changes in Japanese families have contributed to the elderly crime wave, but he emphasises the psychological consequences not the financial ones.

    “Ultimately the relationship among people has changed. People have become more isolated. They don’t find a place to be in this society. They cannot put up with their loneliness,” says Kanichi Yamada, an 85-year-old who as a child was pulled out of the rubble of his home when the atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima.

    “Among the elderly who commit crimes a number have this turning point in their middle life. There is some trigger. They lose a wife or children and they just can’t cope with that… Usually people don’t commit crime if they have people to look after them and provide them with support.”

    Toshio’s story about being driven to crime as a result of poverty is just an “excuse”, Kanichi Yamada suggests. The core of the problem is his loneliness. And one factor that may have prompted him to reoffend, he speculates, was the promise of company in jail.

    It’s true that Toshio is alone in the world. His parents are dead, and he has lost contact with two older brothers, who don’t answer his calls. He has also lost contact with his two ex-wives, both of whom he divorced, and his three children.

    Toshio is a keen painter

    I ask him if he thinks things would have turned out differently if he’d had a wife and family. He says they would.

    “If they had been around to support me I wouldn’t have done this,” he says.

    Michael Newman has watched as the Japanese government has expanded prison capacity, and recruited additional female prison guards (the number of elderly women criminals is rising particularly fast, though from a low base). He’s also noted the steeply rising bill for medical treatment of people in prison.

    There have been other changes too, as I see for myself at a prison in Fuchu, outside Tokyo, where nearly a third of the inmates are now over 60.

    There’s a lot of marching inside Japanese prisons – marching and shouting. But here the military drill seems to be getting harder to enforce. I see a couple of grey-haired inmates at the back of one platoon struggling to keep up. One is on crutches.
    “We have had to improve the facilities here,” Masatsugu Yazawa, the prison’s head of education tells me. “We’ve put in handrails, special toilets. There are classes for older offenders.”
    Prisoners attend a class

    He takes me to watch one of them. It begins with a karaoke rendition of a popular song, The Reason I was Born, all about the meaning of life. The inmates are encouraged to sing along. Some look quite moved.

    “We sing to show them that the real life is outside prison, and that happiness is there,” Yazawa says. “But still they think the life in prison is better and many come back.”

    Michael Newman argues that it would be far better – and much cheaper – to look after the elderly without the expense of court proceedings and incarceration.

    “We actually costed a model to build an industrial complex retirement village where people would forfeit half their pension but get free food, free board and healthcare and so on, and get to play karaoke or gate-ball with the other residents and have a relative amount of freedom. It would cost way less than what the government’s spending at the moment,” he says.

    Japan’s elderly prisoners on life behind bars

    But he also suggests that the tendency for Japanese courts to hand down custodial sentences for petty theft “is slightly bizarre, in terms of the punishment actually fitting the crime”.
    “The theft of a 200-yen (£1.40) sandwich could lead to an 8.4m-yen (£58,000) tax bill to provide for a two-year sentence,” he writes in his 2016 report.

    That may be a hypothetical example, but I met one elderly jailbird whose experience was almost identical. He’d been given a two-year jail term for only his second offence: stealing a bottle of peppers worth £2.50.

    And I heard from Morio Mochizuki, who provides security for some 3,000 retail outlets in Japan, that if anything the courts are getting tougher on shoplifters.

    “Even if they only stole one piece of bread,” says Masayuki Sho of Japan’s Prison Service, “it was decided at trial that it is appropriate for them to go to prison, therefore we need to teach them the way: how to live in society without committing crime.”

    I don’t know whether the prison service has taught Toshio Takata this lesson, but when I ask him if he is already planning his next crime, he denies it.

    “No, actually this is it,” he says.

    “I don’t want to do this again, and I will soon be 70 and I will be old and frail the next time. I won’t do that again.”

    •�Thanks: Voltarde
  213. @Joe Stalin

    But what about that other election?
    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1818189980922970196
    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1818187470925676989
    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1818230953984020805
    https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1818154936196063602
    https://twitter.com/MorosKostas/status/1817779701492113453

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Gandydancer

    Oh, great, more Venezuelans for the US! And not the ones being scouted by MLB.

  214. @TWS
    @Frau Katze

    Right. The New York Times readers are liberal democrats or even socialist because the Republicans want to not kill children. Maybe they are losing that reasonable middle ground euthanasia demographic as well. Do you personally know anyone who voted for Nixon?

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    Do you personally know anyone who voted for Nixon?
    Yes

  215. @Cindy
    @Anonymous

    How many antidepressants does a person have to be on for his perception of dangerous faces to be this warped?

    Replies: @Ed Case, @Cloudbuster

    The commenter must be face blind, or something. That said, the most sinister character in that ad is Greg Lewin, of the Minnesota Freedom Fund.

  216. @Elsewhere
    OT: Joe Biden endorses the Sailer Plan for the Supreme Court:

    Second, we have had term limits for presidents for nearly 75 years. We should have the same for Supreme Court justices. The United States is the only major constitutional democracy that gives lifetime seats to its high court. Term limits would help ensure that the court’s membership changes with some regularity. That would make timing for court nominations more predictable and less arbitrary. It would reduce the chance that any single presidency radically alters the makeup of the court for generations to come. I support a system in which the president would appoint a justice every two years to spend 18 years in active service on the Supreme Court.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @AnotherDad, @Diversity Heretic, @Gandydancer

    Biden:

    I support a system in which the president would appoint a justice every two years to spend 18 years in active service on the Supreme Court.

    How is this Constitutional?

    Article. III.
    Section. 1.
    The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

    Is surpassing 18 years in office somehow bad behavior? Will SCOTUS agree that it is?

    I can see how congress could appoint justices on a regular schedule so as to reduce the impact of doddering old fools, by increasing the number of justices, but that is not the proposal.

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Gandydancer

    I will add a specific proposal: Let the President nominate and the Senate confirm a panel of Justices-in-waiting. (Two is maybe sufficient, but you might want more in case the panel isn't full at the end of a term with no confirmations.) If a vacancy opens up during his or his VP's term then the senior one (the one confirmed first) will assume the bench without any delay. and a new Justice-in-waiting can be nominated and approved as the new junior. If no openings occur during a term both Justices-in-waiting join the bench, so that the number is always odd. Otherwise the panel is cleared with each new Presidential election. At first glance I believe this could be done by statute but I'd have to look at the confirmation language to be sure.
    .

    Replies: @J.Ross
  217. @Pixo
    @Corvinus

    The simplest eugenic natalist policy is to increase the deduction for minor dependents.

    Ideally I would make it $25,000 per minor child. So no income tax liability for a couple with $150,000 in income and 4 kids given their personal and other common deductions. But a similar DINK would pay about $25,000 more in federal income taxes.

    There are plenty of upper middle class whites in “flyover” America. Appalachia specifically is demographically irrelevant.

    Replies: @anon, @Corvinus, @Catdog

    Take your pick—zero immigration or family formation? Which one is more important if you had to choose?

    Your proposal, as I stated earlier, excludes tens of millions of worthy (white) Americans, due to your preferred income level. Why not incorporate poorer (white) Americans?

    “Appalachia specifically is demographically irrelevant”.

    This attitude is anti-white and reeks of elitism. Whites here are suffering. They could use this income boost to help economically revitalize their communities. Yet, you callously dismiss them.

    •�Replies: @Prester John
    @Corvinus

    “Appalachia specifically is demographically irrelevant”.

    Somewhere, Herbert Spencer is nodding in approval.

    Replies: @Corvinus
    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Corvinus

    "Take your pick—zero immigration or family formation? Which one is more important if you had to choose?"

    Zero immigration promotes family formation. Mass deportations would promote it even more. Next.

    PRO TIP: Don't become a plumber, you have no idea how water pressure works.

    Replies: @J.Ross
    , @deep anonymous
    @Corvinus

    Since when have you ever given a damn about Whites? You are nothing but a cheerleader for globohomo.

    Replies: @Corvinus
  218. @Curle
    @Reg Cæsar


    Teddy
    You had two choices. Was picking the correct one so difficult?

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Bill Jones, @Reg Cæsar
  219. @Mr. Anon
    @Anon


    OT: One by one, conservative pundits are coming to terms with the fact that the abortion thing is an albatross around conservatism’s neck.
    At the national level, yes. At the state and local level, not necessarily.

    Strict anti-abortion laws function as liberal-repellant. They will help keep Red states Red.

    Replies: @Anon, @deep anonymous

    “Strict anti-abortion laws function as liberal-repellant. They will help keep Red states Red.”

    Great insight.

    •�Agree: mc23
  220. @Gandydancer
    @Elsewhere

    Biden:

    I support a system in which the president would appoint a justice every two years to spend 18 years in active service on the Supreme Court.
    How is this Constitutional?

    Article. III.
    Section. 1.
    The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.
    Is surpassing 18 years in office somehow bad behavior? Will SCOTUS agree that it is?

    I can see how congress could appoint justices on a regular schedule so as to reduce the impact of doddering old fools, by increasing the number of justices, but that is not the proposal.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    I will add a specific proposal: Let the President nominate and the Senate confirm a panel of Justices-in-waiting. (Two is maybe sufficient, but you might want more in case the panel isn’t full at the end of a term with no confirmations.) If a vacancy opens up during his or his VP’s term then the senior one (the one confirmed first) will assume the bench without any delay. and a new Justice-in-waiting can be nominated and approved as the new junior. If no openings occur during a term both Justices-in-waiting join the bench, so that the number is always odd. Otherwise the panel is cleared with each new Presidential election. At first glance I believe this could be done by statute but I’d have to look at the confirmation language to be sure.
    .

    •�Replies: @J.Ross
    @Gandydancer

    That sounds like a more formalized version of what we already have, retaining all current problems. Really the only thing wrong with our system is communists acting in bad faith because they hate it and want a new one.

    Replies: @Gandydancer
  221. Odds are that these cats are no ways childless.

  222. @Corvinus
    @Pixo

    Take your pick—zero immigration or family formation? Which one is more important if you had to choose?

    Your proposal, as I stated earlier, excludes tens of millions of worthy (white) Americans, due to your preferred income level. Why not incorporate poorer (white) Americans?

    “Appalachia specifically is demographically irrelevant”.

    This attitude is anti-white and reeks of elitism. Whites here are suffering. They could use this income boost to help economically revitalize their communities. Yet, you callously dismiss them.

    Replies: @Prester John, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @deep anonymous

    “Appalachia specifically is demographically irrelevant”.

    Somewhere, Herbert Spencer is nodding in approval.

    •�Replies: @Corvinus
    @Prester John

    “Somewhere, Herbert Spencer is nodding in approval.”

    Your reference here is telling. Apparently you are also tacitly endorsing the anti-white, elitist policy advocated by Pixo. Care to comment on your own behalf?
  223. @Dr. Rock
    If somebody wanted to, they could turn the root concept of this ad into 10, 1 hour episodes, mini-series.

    And while showing all the mug shots, you could scroll the names of the millions of negro criminals at the bottom, like a stock ticker, and never repeat the same name twice.

    I've been saying it for years, if you look at the stats honestly, one could make a very good case to intern black males from about 13-40. Literally lock all of them up.

    The crime rate would plummet overnight!

    Replies: @anonymous, @Prester John

    “…one could make a very good case to intern black males from about 13-40. Literally lock all of them up.”

    Uhh, somehow I don’t think it would fly.

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Prester John


    “…one could make a very good case to intern black males from about 13-40. Literally lock all of them up.”

    Uhh, somehow I don’t think it would fly.
    This would be a good example of one of the alternatives to Jim Crow.

    It's why I think Jim Crow really was the most humane, practicable solution going. Not that those who introduced it were overflowing with benevolent concern for our duskier fellow citizens, but it really was the best response to the problem available -- and still is.

    We don't need to kill them. We don't need to deport them. We don't even need to summarily imprison them. We do need to recognize that they are inferior to the rest of us in a number of respects, and can neither be expected to meet the same expectations nor accorded the same rights.

    Do that, and they will cease to be an intolerable pain in the ass.

    Replies: @Corvinus
  224. @epebble
    The ad might have helped Bush in 1988 since he won handily (426 electoral, 53.4% popular - probably never going to happen again for Republican party). It will be interesting to see how well it will work this time. Trump has already started calling Harris as evil and lunatic. The only way to ratchet it up any further is by using the N word. Mysteriously, nobody is toying with the Birth certificate redux this time, saying she is not a real American etc., I don't know what happened; did they think it didn't work on Obama?

    Replies: @epebble, @Gandydancer

    The only way to ratchet it up any further is by using the N word.

    Is that you, Tiny Dick? Criticizing Harris for bailing out criminals is racist, now?

    •�Replies: @epebble
    @Gandydancer

    It is not racist at all. But it lacks the shock value it had in 1988 coming from G HW Bush. Trump in 2024 has to user larger tonnage of TNT to cause any impact. Proof: the said ad is not even mentioned anywhere on the media unlike "she is not black" which has received good airtime. It is like heroin addiction, increasing dosage is needed for same effect. If he publishes a white paper saying my policy #34 will lead to 6.8% growth compared to my opponents plan that will lead to 1.7% growth, that will be ignored, though that is important. If he uses some uncivil language though, it will be widely reported.

    Replies: @Gandydancer
  225. @Pastit
    Well, that ad should rankle many a woke prog as I can already hear the cries of racism bellowing through the rafters. These next three months promise to be exceedingly entertaining.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Gandydancer

    I can already hear the cries of racism bellowing through the rafters.

    Just use your eyes on the epebble post just before yours.

  226. @Anon
    OT: One by one, conservative pundits are coming to terms with the fact that the abortion thing is an albatross around conservatism's neck.

    https://twitter.com/VDAREJamesK/status/1816601709667356864

    https://twitter.com/pearlythingz/status/1817508945990234607

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Reg Cæsar, @Wilkey, @Mr. Anon, @Dumbo, @Gandydancer, @Catdog

    The pro-abortion racist crowd is very insistent on reminding us how bad abortion is for republicans.

    Not clear if their real goal is to try and get more votes for republicans from infanticiders, so that republicans can continue to be worse than useless on the race problem, or if they simply psychopathically calculate that the number of dead brown fetuses will outnumber the dead white fetuses.

    I certainly understand the logic of letting our enemies kill their own children, but nonetheless it is a sickening practice.

  227. @Corvinus
    @Pixo

    Take your pick—zero immigration or family formation? Which one is more important if you had to choose?

    Your proposal, as I stated earlier, excludes tens of millions of worthy (white) Americans, due to your preferred income level. Why not incorporate poorer (white) Americans?

    “Appalachia specifically is demographically irrelevant”.

    This attitude is anti-white and reeks of elitism. Whites here are suffering. They could use this income boost to help economically revitalize their communities. Yet, you callously dismiss them.

    Replies: @Prester John, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @deep anonymous

    “Take your pick—zero immigration or family formation? Which one is more important if you had to choose?”

    Zero immigration promotes family formation. Mass deportations would promote it even more. Next.

    PRO TIP: Don’t become a plumber, you have no idea how water pressure works.

    •�LOL: J.Ross
    •�Replies: @J.Ross
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    One of my favorite anecdotal illustrations of invite-the-world being stupid and evil is the Decembrists being allowed to implement their program -- universal literacy, female suffrage, all that -- so long as it was deep in Siberia. All this migration relieves social pressure which could have been used to change bad societies. The Tsar has no issue with Progress in Siberia, the Presidente-por-vida has no issue with transparency in Kansas.
  228. Anon[393] •�Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    Sex by nature is important. And the civilized races have evolved both genetically and culturally in ways to support the reproduction of civilization. We are not designed as people to be pump and dumpers, but to be able to bond for the long commitment of raising productive civilized replacement people.
    Since I never got married, I dated a lot of women, a number of them shared their abortion experience with me, and I’ve discovered a nasty little secret the pro-abortionists will never address, and that’s botched legal abortions.

    Abortions aren’t a simple procedure. It takes a lot out of a woman psychologically, some never get over it, if the doctor fucks up, the girl will be sterile the rest of her life, and "qualified" doctors, by the telling to me by women who've had legal abortions, fuck up a lot more than pro-abortionists would have women believe.

    If I were a girl who got pregnant, didn’t want the baby, but wanted to have them in the future, no fucking WAY would I elect to abort the baby. It’s FAR safer to just have the baby and put it up for adoption.

    For myself, as a man, I’m absolutely FOR abortion, since it keeps the miscreant and hopeless population down, and it makes life FAR easier, and cheaper, for me. But if I were female… no fucking way!

    I’ve always said the most formidable obstacle for women achieving their dream life is other women. Women should quit listening to each other's stupid, crazy shit. Women trusting women will always be their downfall.

    Replies: @Anon, @Jonathan Mason

    “ Women trusting women will always be their downfall.”

    👀

    1) I suspect pro-abortion women, who are out to convince other women, are really the mouthpieces of men who thought up the abortion system & goals in the first place. I could be wrong on this, but most women naturally are influenced by a stronger male personality, as I think you know. This proliferation of women who identify as “activists”.. men have something to answer for there, too.

    2) Women compete with other women for “good men”, granted. That is why life-long marriage is best for the common good, it channels feminine energy into more fruitful endeavors. Not saying it is for everyone.

    3) Mothers and sisters are there to provide good counsel. And love and laughter, which all aid in achieving right reason.

  229. @Gary in Gramercy
    @mc23

    Like "at a closeout sale at Loehmann's."

    Replies: @kaganovitch

    Nu, now that Loehmanns has gone out of business, what’s a fetishist supposed to do? What we need is a new Federal entitlement…. Perhaps a cabinet level position?

  230. @Pixo
    @Corvinus

    The simplest eugenic natalist policy is to increase the deduction for minor dependents.

    Ideally I would make it $25,000 per minor child. So no income tax liability for a couple with $150,000 in income and 4 kids given their personal and other common deductions. But a similar DINK would pay about $25,000 more in federal income taxes.

    There are plenty of upper middle class whites in “flyover” America. Appalachia specifically is demographically irrelevant.

    Replies: @anon, @Corvinus, @Catdog

    How about $12,500- for each parent?

  231. @Corvinus
    @Pixo

    Take your pick—zero immigration or family formation? Which one is more important if you had to choose?

    Your proposal, as I stated earlier, excludes tens of millions of worthy (white) Americans, due to your preferred income level. Why not incorporate poorer (white) Americans?

    “Appalachia specifically is demographically irrelevant”.

    This attitude is anti-white and reeks of elitism. Whites here are suffering. They could use this income boost to help economically revitalize their communities. Yet, you callously dismiss them.

    Replies: @Prester John, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @deep anonymous

    Since when have you ever given a damn about Whites? You are nothing but a cheerleader for globohomo.

    •�Replies: @Corvinus
    @deep anonymous

    “Since when have you ever given a damn about Whites? You are nothing but a cheerleader for globohomo”

    This is just bizarre on your part. Regardless, my point still stands—Pixo’s policy preference is anti-white and elitist, as it only seeks to benefit wealthy, high IQ whites. Why are you seemingly coming to his defense?
  232. @Curle
    @Reg Cæsar


    Teddy
    You had two choices. Was picking the correct one so difficult?

    Replies: @Cagey Beast, @Bill Jones, @Reg Cæsar

    You had two choices. Was picking the correct one so difficult?

    The 98.6% of the vote the “correct one” received in Strom Thurmond’s state (not to mention John C Calhoun’s) doesn’t look much like “usurpation”. Nor does the 97% he garnered (pardon the expression) in Theodore Bilbo’s (not to mention Jefferson Davis’s). Especially coming after 3½ years experience. If he was a dictator– and I’d be the last to disagree there– it’s because that’s what he was elected to be.

    Usurper is a word Vermonters might have considered using, or the man’s neighbo(u)rs in Dutchess County. Dictator, definitely.

    Thurmond showed how to deal with such characters in 1948. Where was he in 1936? Shining a spare chair. While the one in use was pointed admiringly in the direction of Uncle Joe.

    •�Replies: @Curle
    @Reg Cæsar

    So he was a popular abuser of delegated powers. You got your footnote in.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus
  233. @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle


    You had two choices. Was picking the correct one so difficult?
    The 98.6% of the vote the "correct one" received in Strom Thurmond's state (not to mention John C Calhoun's) doesn't look much like "usurpation". Nor does the 97% he garnered (pardon the expression) in Theodore Bilbo's (not to mention Jefferson Davis's). Especially coming after 3½ years experience. If he was a dictator-- and I'd be the last to disagree there-- it's because that's what he was elected to be.

    Usurper is a word Vermonters might have considered using, or the man's neighbo(u)rs in Dutchess County. Dictator, definitely.

    Thurmond showed how to deal with such characters in 1948. Where was he in 1936? Shining a spare chair. While the one in use was pointed admiringly in the direction of Uncle Joe.

    Replies: @Curle

    So he was a popular abuser of delegated powers. You got your footnote in.

    •�Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Curle


    So he was a popular abuser of delegated powers.
    He wasn't popular in my hometown, which voted against him seven times, by quite a margin. How was he viewed in yours?
    , @Corvinus
    @Curle

    Thurmond was also a race mixer—let us all come to understand the meaning of deception and arrogance and what it means to be unprincipled. And southrons wept!
  234. @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    No one is pushing for war with Russia.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    And with that statement, everything you write can safely be consigned to ‘Tiny Duck’ territory. You’ve demonstrated true cat lady irrelevancy.

    •�Troll: Frau Katze
  235. @Curle
    @Reg Cæsar

    So he was a popular abuser of delegated powers. You got your footnote in.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus

    So he was a popular abuser of delegated powers.

    He wasn’t popular in my hometown, which voted against him seven times, by quite a margin. How was he viewed in yours?

  236. @Anonymous
    @Wokechoke


    This is a stupid strategy for Trump. Blacks are a lock in for Democratic votes. Trump needs to mobilise whites. Nothing else will work.
    Not enough whites to clinch it, Sparky. If he gets enough intelligent blacks on board–and there’s more of them than you’d probably like to believe–Kamala would have to cheat so much to win, she couldn’t get away with it.

    Besides, if we review Trump's history, on paper, he’s America’s first black president, and deserves their full support.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    If he gets enough intelligent blacks on board–and there’s more of them than you’d probably like to believe

    A better strategy might be to keep the dumb ones on the couch. However, mail-in vote harvesting is a way around that.

  237. @Torna atrás
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    It never pulls at my heart strings much when people whine about how evil it was to nuke Japan. The Japs inflicted dozens of Hiroshima's worth of death and suffering upon the Koreans, Filippinos, Indonesians, Vietnamese, Indians, and Chinese.

    I’d rather take pity on those people than the Japanese when I’m a sympathetic mood. Japan could have backed down and left Korea if they were so saintly and cared more about human life than their ego and honor. They weren’t. And they didn’t.

    Japan made the wrong choice and they paid for it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    It never pulls at my heart strings much when people whine about how evil it was to nuke Japan.

    It wasn’t evil to nuke Japan. It is evil to target non-combatant civilians anywhere. “Collateral damage” is a fig leaf.

    For all their preaching, American progressives are amoral, and this is Exhibit A. Why today’s conservatives defend yesterday’s progs is beyond me. Such cuckoldry! Even Curtis Lemay admitted he was a war criminal. U.S News called us out just days later:

    Editorial From 1945: What Hath Man Wrought!

    Japan could have backed down and left Korea if they were so saintly and cared more about human life than their ego and honor.

    And we could have negotiated an end to the war had our own “ego and honor” not demanded an unconditional surrender, of which our 79-year streak of raping the locals is a part. U.S. Grant is a war criminal for making such an extreme demand, but somehow Harry Truman is not?

    •�Agree: Sam Malone
  238. @Reg Cæsar
    On the other hand, she is also known for having kept the innocent locked up, and the guilty beyond their sentences, just to get more cheap labor out of them. (Cui bono?) Thus, she is the personification of anarcho-tyranny.

    As for Steve's latest Substack question, "What country will win the Olympics?", we already know who won the 2024 Games-- and the 2028:

    Paris was awarded the Games at the 131st IOC Session in Lima, Peru, on 13 September 2017. After multiple withdrawals that left only Paris and Los Angeles in contention, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) approved a process to concurrently award the 2024 and 2028 Summer Olympics to the two remaining candidate cities...

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Summer_Olympics

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    …we already know who won the 2024 Games– and the 2028…

    No, you only know who lost. First Parisians and then Angelinos.

  239. @Colin Wright
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms


    'You Guys All Look The Same...'
    It's perhaps beside the point, but Goebbels was from the Rhineland, while I believe Manstein was of Prussian and Polish ancestry. Pretty far apart, and really, united by little but a common language.

    'We've got nothing in common with you black-haired bastards from the other side of the Elbe.'

    A Prussian sergeant, quoted in Guy Sajer's The Forgotten Soldier.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Manstein was of partly Kashubian ancestry and changed his name from Lewinski, though perhaps partly from worries he might be taken for a Jew.
    Sajer was, I believe, part-French and may have found ethnic origins and outsider status fascinating for that reason. Even a shared German language was not necessarily effective as many until recently at least were more comfortable speaking various dialects, sometimes far removed from standard German. Whether German speakers were Catholic or Lutheran could also trump German identity.

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'Manstein was of partly Kashubian ancestry and changed his name from Lewinski, though perhaps partly from worries he might be taken for a Jew.
    Find a shot of him in profile, and you'll realize the concern was understandable. He definitely had an impressive beak.




    Sajer was, I believe, part-French and may have found ethnic origins and outsider status fascinating for that reason.



    He refers to that in his account; his ambivalence about his status in his unit. His father was French but his mother German. The Germans generously decided he was therefore German and drafted him. After the war, the French forgave him -- on condition that he serve a couple of years in the French army.
    Even a shared German language was not necessarily effective as many until recently at least were more comfortable speaking various dialects, sometimes far removed from standard German. Whether German speakers were Catholic or Lutheran could also trump German identity.'
    Indeed. One of the more morbid ironies of history is that Hitler completed the creation of a unified Germany -- albeit not in the way he intended!

    All those expulsions from Eastern Europe, Silesia, and East Prussia...plus the massive discussion of housing stock everywhere...plus flight from the worker's paradise in the post-war decade -- it all made for far more homogeneous Germany than what had existed before.

    I remember when I visited Regensburg; I had chosen it because it hadn't been bombed to pieces. Once there, I discovered that precisely because it hadn't been bombed to pieces, massive quantities of refugees from elsewhere were promptly settled on the town; the population tripled.

    Obviously, Regensburg must have lost a good deal of whatever parochial identity it may have once had in the process.

    Replies: @Wielgus
  240. @deep anonymous
    @Corvinus

    Since when have you ever given a damn about Whites? You are nothing but a cheerleader for globohomo.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Since when have you ever given a damn about Whites? You are nothing but a cheerleader for globohomo”

    This is just bizarre on your part. Regardless, my point still stands—Pixo’s policy preference is anti-white and elitist, as it only seeks to benefit wealthy, high IQ whites. Why are you seemingly coming to his defense?

  241. @Prester John
    @Corvinus

    “Appalachia specifically is demographically irrelevant”.

    Somewhere, Herbert Spencer is nodding in approval.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Somewhere, Herbert Spencer is nodding in approval.”

    Your reference here is telling. Apparently you are also tacitly endorsing the anti-white, elitist policy advocated by Pixo. Care to comment on your own behalf?

  242. @Curle
    @Reg Cæsar

    So he was a popular abuser of delegated powers. You got your footnote in.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus

    Thurmond was also a race mixer—let us all come to understand the meaning of deception and arrogance and what it means to be unprincipled. And southrons wept!

  243. @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    'Economic sanctions are not nuclear war.'
    No -- but blowing up pipelines, apparently sanctioning terrorist attacks, and giving the Ukrainians missiles capable of firing deep into Russia does head down that road.

    It's really bizarre. Back in the day, we confronted Russia when it was necessary -- that's why they never got much of anywhere. But we avoided unnecessary or useless disputes if at all possible: Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1968. No, we didn't want to remake Level Seven as a documentary.

    Now, we seem to think it's all good clean fun. And the irony is the same group of people who are pushing the forever war now -- the Jewish commentariat -- were the ones pushing detente et al back then. It's hard to come up with a presentable motive for that.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @HA

    No — but blowing up pipelines, apparently sanctioning terrorist attacks, and giving the Ukrainians missiles capable of firing deep into Russia does head down that road.

    No one knows who did the pipeline job.

    The Ukrainians wouldn’t need such missiles if Putin hadn’t invaded the country.

    If you want peace, why support an aggressor like Putin?

    This whole “Putin is the good guy” schtick is another sentiment endemic on Unz but not one I see elsewhere. Even at the conservative WSJ, there’s little sympathy for him (none editorially, and only the occasional commenter).

    •�Replies: @vinteuil
    @Frau Katze

    Hey, Mrs. Kitty:

    This whole “Putin is the good guy” schtick
    So lame. So gay.
    , @vinteuil
    @Frau Katze

    Oh, and:

    No one knows who did the pipeline job.
    Everybody knows who did the pipeline job.

    Everybody knows - you silly bastard, pretending to be a bitch.

    Replies: @Frau Katze
    , @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    No one knows who did the pipeline job.
    Either we did it, or somebody did it with our approval.

    Of course. What's distressing was the ferocity and unanimity of the lies to the contrary. Claiming the Russians did it was like asserting the Japanese sank their own carriers at Midway. It was nonsensical -- yet everyone insisted on it.

    Replies: @Frau Katze
  244. @Cagey Beast
    @Reg Cæsar

    What's your point?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Those are blamed on the Brits. As if Chinese addicts lacked agency.

    •�Thanks: Cagey Beast
    •�Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Reg Cæsar

    "As if Chinese addicts lacked agency."

    Addicts lack agency -- or suffer from severely attenuated agency -- by definition. Addiction is something other than a mere bad habit. It is more of a neurological condition, albeit an artificially-induced one not a congenital one. All the same, will-power is not really in the tool-kit of one who has become powerless.

    That whereof we cannot speak, thereof we must remain silent. --- Wittgenstein
    , @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Reg Cæsar

    Some Chinese have blamed them on the Brits and Baghdadi Jews

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sassoon_family

    But I have made extensive comments defending the British and Sassoon's position.

    https://www.unz.com/?s=opium&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=China+Japan+and+Korea+Bromance+of+Three+Kingdoms

    Chinese in general blame the Japanese the most, followed by Westerners.

    But former Russian aggression against China is never spoken of even though it was arguable the worst.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/The_real_trouble_will_come_with_the_%22wake%22_-_J._Ottmann_Lith._Co._Puck_Bldg._N.Y._LCCN2002718142.jpg

    Replies: @Torna atrás
  245. @Dumbo
    @Anon

    What are "conservatives" conserving, if they can't even "conserve" life? What is "conservative" about a movement with no values whatsoever, except maybe "beating Democrats"?

    Have those people noticed that the white birth rate is on the pits, and it's mostly because of feminism (abortion, pill, sexual freedom, etc)?

    Also, this "H. Pearl Davis" chick is insufferable. Taking advice from her is really dumb. I wouldn't call her a "conservative pundit", just an attention whore with emphasis on whore.

    Anyway, abortionists are stupid.

    Replies: @Anon

    Have those people noticed that the white birth rate is on the pits, and it’s mostly because of feminism (abortion, pill, sexual freedom, etc)

    They might have noticed how after you banned abortion the white birth rate didn’t go up.

  246. @Colin Wright
    @Steve Sailer


    'The way to do it is to pick a starting date well out into the future so that you can’t figure out which party will be advantaged, such as 2033. And then grandfather in everybody currently on the Supreme Court until they die.'

    Unless the idea is to somehow appease the Left -- and good luck on that -- I fail to see the need for anything at all.

    Life terms are good. You don't want people who are prey to the latest trend; you want at least some old codgers who remember the way it was back in the day. I don't want a Supreme Court consisting solely of people who were chosen within the last eighteen years; if that were the case now, the oldest member would have been confirmed in 2006.

    One wants, for example, someone who remembers how Reagan's amnesty for illegals didn't work, or what the situation was like before Roe v. Wade, or crime in the Eighties. You don't want a court where no one remembers anything earlier than the Clinton years.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “You don’t want a court where no one remembers anything earlier than the Clinton years.”

    I’d be satisfied with a court that actually remembers 1787-89.

    •�Agree: Colin Wright
    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    “You don’t want a court where no one remembers anything earlier than the Clinton years.”

    I’d be satisfied with a court that actually remembers 1787-89.

    More realistically, however much we may give lip service to respecting the exact intent and wording of the Constitution et al, it's not really practical to rely on the Second Amendment to insist that Elon Musk can build and sell atomic bombs to whoever would like one, etc. Probably good to obstinately cling to the original text as long as it's not literally suicidal, but...

    I do think, though, that life terms effectively help the Supreme Court to be a brake on the momentary enthusiasms and hysteria of the rest of the political system. We do want people who can remember when 'transgender' people simply didn't exist, when sexually mutilating children wasn't a standard medical procedure, when people ordinarily spanked errant children, etc. Not that they should remain stuck in the past, but they should at least remember what the past was -- be able to distinguish eternal verities from this year's fad.

    I'll also point out that unlike as is the case with the President, there are nine justices. If one goes a bit potty in his dotage yet refuses to step down, he'll just get overruled 8-1. The world won't come to an end.
  247. @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    No one is pushing for war with Russia.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @TWS, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “No one is pushing for war with Russia.”

    Then why is there a war with Russia?

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Russia invaded Ukraine. The Ukrainians are fighting back.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @J.Ross
  248. @vinteuil
    @Frau Katze

    Hi, Mistress Pussy.

    How're you doing?

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    Careful bub, you’re going to trigger all the thirsty boomers here who compete for that dimwit’s attention.

    Question: How do you distract and deceive a couple dozen otherwise intelligent men from the actual discussion?

    Answer: Send in the Hard 5 (looks and intelligence) wearing sensible shoes!

    •�Troll: Frau Katze
  249. anonymous[255] •�Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    @Dr. Rock


    intern black males from about 13-40
    I was once on an inmate bus full of black guys being transported to Santa Rita. A guy next to me, about 40, says, "man, I'm tired a goin' to jail fo', five times a year. I'm gonna turn over a new leaf."

    Replies: @anonymous

    I was once on an inmate bus full of black guys being transported to Santa Rita. A guy next to me, about 40, says, “man, I’m tired a goin’ to jail fo’, five times a year. I’m gonna turn over a new leaf.”

    The key to bringing errant negroes to heel is… Time.

    Following 20 years in prison, the negro’s testosterone level decreases, the musculature atrophies, social agency is significantly and forever diminished. It’s very difficult for an ex-con to “run with the negroes” at 45 years of age. That is a young negro’s game. Time in prison won’t carry a lot of street cred at that age.

    Prison is just the modern gentleman’s answer to castration, which has been a method of retarding the hardcore negro’s inclination to destroy, for thousands of years. It was the standard go-to method of Muslim slave traders, who’ve had far more direct experience with negro slave trading than the west by a longshot, dwarfing the United States, and even South America in numbers during their slave periods, and easily to this very day.

    •�Replies: @Anonymous
    @anonymous


    who’ve had far more direct experience with negro slave trading than the west by a longshot, dwarfing the United States, and even South America in numbers during their slave periods, and easily to this very day.
    Is there a book where one can read more about this?
  250. @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright


    No — but blowing up pipelines, apparently sanctioning terrorist attacks, and giving the Ukrainians missiles capable of firing deep into Russia does head down that road.
    No one knows who did the pipeline job.

    The Ukrainians wouldn’t need such missiles if Putin hadn’t invaded the country.

    If you want peace, why support an aggressor like Putin?

    This whole “Putin is the good guy” schtick is another sentiment endemic on Unz but not one I see elsewhere. Even at the conservative WSJ, there’s little sympathy for him (none editorially, and only the occasional commenter).

    Replies: @vinteuil, @vinteuil, @Colin Wright

    Hey, Mrs. Kitty:

    This whole “Putin is the good guy” schtick

    So lame. So gay.

  251. @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright


    No — but blowing up pipelines, apparently sanctioning terrorist attacks, and giving the Ukrainians missiles capable of firing deep into Russia does head down that road.
    No one knows who did the pipeline job.

    The Ukrainians wouldn’t need such missiles if Putin hadn’t invaded the country.

    If you want peace, why support an aggressor like Putin?

    This whole “Putin is the good guy” schtick is another sentiment endemic on Unz but not one I see elsewhere. Even at the conservative WSJ, there’s little sympathy for him (none editorially, and only the occasional commenter).

    Replies: @vinteuil, @vinteuil, @Colin Wright

    Oh, and:

    No one knows who did the pipeline job.

    Everybody knows who did the pipeline job.

    Everybody knows – you silly bastard, pretending to be a bitch.

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @vinteuil

    You have a theory on the pipeline. (I don’t what your theory is either). You don’t have a fact.

    The quality of your argument is not improved by ad hominem attacks.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mr. Anon
  252. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Corvinus

    "Take your pick—zero immigration or family formation? Which one is more important if you had to choose?"

    Zero immigration promotes family formation. Mass deportations would promote it even more. Next.

    PRO TIP: Don't become a plumber, you have no idea how water pressure works.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    One of my favorite anecdotal illustrations of invite-the-world being stupid and evil is the Decembrists being allowed to implement their program — universal literacy, female suffrage, all that — so long as it was deep in Siberia. All this migration relieves social pressure which could have been used to change bad societies. The Tsar has no issue with Progress in Siberia, the Presidente-por-vida has no issue with transparency in Kansas.

  253. @Gandydancer
    @Gandydancer

    I will add a specific proposal: Let the President nominate and the Senate confirm a panel of Justices-in-waiting. (Two is maybe sufficient, but you might want more in case the panel isn't full at the end of a term with no confirmations.) If a vacancy opens up during his or his VP's term then the senior one (the one confirmed first) will assume the bench without any delay. and a new Justice-in-waiting can be nominated and approved as the new junior. If no openings occur during a term both Justices-in-waiting join the bench, so that the number is always odd. Otherwise the panel is cleared with each new Presidential election. At first glance I believe this could be done by statute but I'd have to look at the confirmation language to be sure.
    .

    Replies: @J.Ross

    That sounds like a more formalized version of what we already have, retaining all current problems. Really the only thing wrong with our system is communists acting in bad faith because they hate it and want a new one.

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @J.Ross


    That sounds like a more formalized version of what we already have, retaining all current problems.
    That's a really dumb thing to say. My suggestion may have problems, but it's not remotely the same as what we have now. Anyway, there's nothing else in your empty and vapid comment to reply to.

    Replies: @J.Ross
  254. HA says:
    @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    'Economic sanctions are not nuclear war.'
    No -- but blowing up pipelines, apparently sanctioning terrorist attacks, and giving the Ukrainians missiles capable of firing deep into Russia does head down that road.

    It's really bizarre. Back in the day, we confronted Russia when it was necessary -- that's why they never got much of anywhere. But we avoided unnecessary or useless disputes if at all possible: Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1968. No, we didn't want to remake Level Seven as a documentary.

    Now, we seem to think it's all good clean fun. And the irony is the same group of people who are pushing the forever war now -- the Jewish commentariat -- were the ones pushing detente et al back then. It's hard to come up with a presentable motive for that.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @HA

    ” But we avoided unnecessary or useless disputes if at all possible: Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1968.”

    Remind us, what agreements not to invade did Moscow violate when it invaded fellow members of the Warsaw Pact?

    And back then — i.e. 1956 is 3 years after the CIA helped oust Mosaddegh — both sides of the Cold War had no problem with brutish shenanigans, though even then, rolling our tanks onto neighboring populations was something we generally frowned upon. And after the Cold War ended, we were supposed to put that behind us. You may denounce the invasion of Iraq, and I wouldn’t complain, but Bush spent over a year building an international consensus to do what he did, precisely so as to try and distinguish himself from the king of bullying the Soviets showed in Prague and Budapest.

    If you want to be all touchy when it comes to the neo-cons brutalizing other countries, don’t sit back and complain about poor little Putin not getting enough sympathy. It’s not a good look. How does that even need explaining?

    “blowing up pipelines, apparently sanctioning terrorist attacks, and giving the Ukrainians missiles capable of firing deep into Russia does head down that road….”

    Yeah, get back to us when we launch a special military operation and roll tanks into Cuba to liberate all those Guantanameras and add their star onto the 50 others in the flag…and then, on top of that, threaten to nuke the rest of the world if they get in the way.Your moral equivalences show a distinct skew.

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @HA

    Your post makes no sense.
  255. HA says:
    @epebble
    @epebble

    Well, it happened. My ink was barely dry:

    Trump suggests Harris would struggle with world leaders based on her appearance
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-suggests-harris-would-struggle-with-world-leaders-based-on-her-appearance/ar-BB1qVog8

    Now, did he really think we need additional hint? Like: adding that he didn’t want to spell it out but viewers would know what he meant.

    He is starting to feel he may lose. This is the rabies virus spreading. It will consume him.

    Replies: @HA, @Gandydancer

    “He is starting to feel he may lose. This is the rabies virus spreading. It will consume him.”

    He was very confident the Democrats would never get rid of Sleepy Joe, and it’s almost certain he wouldn’t have gone with Vance if he knew Harris was the main ticket.

    JUN 29 Why Trump wants Biden to stay in the race

    During an interview with Fox News Digital after the debate, Trump was asked if he believes Biden will be the Democratic nominee.

    “Yes, I think he will be the nominee,” the former president answered….The greater question for Team Trump is now: Is it better to run against the “devil you know” than against one you don’t?

    The obvious answer for me — and many I speak with — is that it would be much better for Trump if Biden remains the Democratic nominee. Reason one of course being Biden’s debate disaster… That becomes a huge net-plus for Trump.

    It could all still work out well for him, to where he goes back to being too cocky again. (In particular, as happened before with Hillary, the Democrats might choose to get too cocky first, and that certainly didn’t work out well.) But for now, the loss of Biden still stings.

    •�Thanks: Frau Katze
    •�Replies: @epebble
    @HA

    Well, within 24 hours, he reloaded the gun, aimed directly at foot and took a perfect shot:

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/31/us/harris-trump-election

    I am now starting to believe he is secretly planning to throw the election to Harris. This was obviously a simple question where he could have brushed aside the DEI and said her policies are not good for America. Instead, he carefully picked up the doo-doo and flung it into his mouth.

    Could this be the point when he lost the election?

    Like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQNVICr9nMo

    Almost makes one pine for responses like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zicGxU5MfwE

    Replies: @HA
    , @Curle
    @HA


    He was very confident the Democrats would never get rid of Sleepy Joe, and it’s almost certain he wouldn’t have gone with Vance if he knew Harris was the main ticket.
    From “[y]es I think he will be the nominee” you came up with all of the above? Which of your other thoughts and ideas do you want to project onto Trump?

    Replies: @HA
    , @Patrick McNally
    @HA

    From a political strategy point of view, Trump should have raised to debate Biden until the nomination process was complete. It was probably just overconfidence on Trump's part. But he made it easier for them to elbow Biden aside in favor of Harris by debating Biden when he did.

    Replies: @HA
  256. @AceDeuce

    Seems perfectly reasonable, but by 1992 during the first wave of Wokeness, the Media Megaphone had converted this Pulitzer Prize-winning story about Dukakis’s screw-up into proof of Bush’s racism
    Wasn't no Interweb. No Elon Musk's Twatter 2.0 (AKA "X"), or anything else.

    No smartphones to take pictures/video with.

    No cop bodycams (which didn't work out the way libs thought-I was going to add "or blacks thought", but they don't think.)

    Barely any conservative media. Limbaugh had just begun going national. There's much I never liked, about him, from the get go (disappointed is more like it), but he needs to be in the Redpill Hall of Fame nevertheless. He was the tricycle that many clueless Whites learned to ride to go and get half a clue.

    Most under-30 Whites in 1992, and many under 40s were suburban snowflakes. Their evil racist parents/grandparents fled the cities, so their ungrateful, clueless spawn could have a good life.

    Blacks stayed the same. No big trick. What's 32 years? They haven't changed in thousands of years. Now they're in every state, city, town, 'burb, workplace, school, etc. working their usual magic. No escape; no respite. People are finally waking up. A little. Way too late.

    Poor/working class Boomers were the last ones that had to deal with negroes in close proximity. No one cared. I know. I was one.

    Any of you call a black the dreaded "N-word" to his face? I have. A few times.

    Any of you fight, and both punch and get punched by a black? I have. A few times.

    Had heated arguments with blacks? I have. Many.

    Any of you get violently mugged by a black? I was, at 14.

    Be in a class in school that was mostly black? I have. Work in a majority black workplace? I did. Have family/friends/neighbors victimized by blacks? I have. Live with a black? I did-not by choice, both in and out of the military.

    Replies: @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @anonymous, @Colin Wright

    Around blacks, never relax.
    I’m sure you found that out, in spades (hehe).

  257. @Reg Cæsar
    @Cagey Beast

    Those are blamed on the Brits. As if Chinese addicts lacked agency.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    “As if Chinese addicts lacked agency.”

    Addicts lack agency — or suffer from severely attenuated agency — by definition. Addiction is something other than a mere bad habit. It is more of a neurological condition, albeit an artificially-induced one not a congenital one. All the same, will-power is not really in the tool-kit of one who has become powerless.

    That whereof we cannot speak, thereof we must remain silent. — Wittgenstein

  258. anonymous[394] •�Disclaimer says:
    @AceDeuce

    Seems perfectly reasonable, but by 1992 during the first wave of Wokeness, the Media Megaphone had converted this Pulitzer Prize-winning story about Dukakis’s screw-up into proof of Bush’s racism
    Wasn't no Interweb. No Elon Musk's Twatter 2.0 (AKA "X"), or anything else.

    No smartphones to take pictures/video with.

    No cop bodycams (which didn't work out the way libs thought-I was going to add "or blacks thought", but they don't think.)

    Barely any conservative media. Limbaugh had just begun going national. There's much I never liked, about him, from the get go (disappointed is more like it), but he needs to be in the Redpill Hall of Fame nevertheless. He was the tricycle that many clueless Whites learned to ride to go and get half a clue.

    Most under-30 Whites in 1992, and many under 40s were suburban snowflakes. Their evil racist parents/grandparents fled the cities, so their ungrateful, clueless spawn could have a good life.

    Blacks stayed the same. No big trick. What's 32 years? They haven't changed in thousands of years. Now they're in every state, city, town, 'burb, workplace, school, etc. working their usual magic. No escape; no respite. People are finally waking up. A little. Way too late.

    Poor/working class Boomers were the last ones that had to deal with negroes in close proximity. No one cared. I know. I was one.

    Any of you call a black the dreaded "N-word" to his face? I have. A few times.

    Any of you fight, and both punch and get punched by a black? I have. A few times.

    Had heated arguments with blacks? I have. Many.

    Any of you get violently mugged by a black? I was, at 14.

    Be in a class in school that was mostly black? I have. Work in a majority black workplace? I did. Have family/friends/neighbors victimized by blacks? I have. Live with a black? I did-not by choice, both in and out of the military.

    Replies: @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @anonymous, @Colin Wright

    What’s 32 years? They haven’t changed in thousands of years.

    You know what? They actually have changed. It used to be they (for the most part) cared what YT thought of them. They made an effort to suppress their instincts – felt bad when a public display of their base nature occurred. That changed somewhere in the ’90’s. I actually think Maxine Waters had something to do with this change. I’ve been beat up by blacks 8 times.

  259. @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    Manstein was of partly Kashubian ancestry and changed his name from Lewinski, though perhaps partly from worries he might be taken for a Jew.
    Sajer was, I believe, part-French and may have found ethnic origins and outsider status fascinating for that reason. Even a shared German language was not necessarily effective as many until recently at least were more comfortable speaking various dialects, sometimes far removed from standard German. Whether German speakers were Catholic or Lutheran could also trump German identity.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Manstein was of partly Kashubian ancestry and changed his name from Lewinski, though perhaps partly from worries he might be taken for a Jew.

    Find a shot of him in profile, and you’ll realize the concern was understandable. He definitely had an impressive beak.

    Sajer was, I believe, part-French and may have found ethnic origins and outsider status fascinating for that reason.

    He refers to that in his account; his ambivalence about his status in his unit. His father was French but his mother German. The Germans generously decided he was therefore German and drafted him. After the war, the French forgave him — on condition that he serve a couple of years in the French army.

    Even a shared German language was not necessarily effective as many until recently at least were more comfortable speaking various dialects, sometimes far removed from standard German. Whether German speakers were Catholic or Lutheran could also trump German identity.’

    Indeed. One of the more morbid ironies of history is that Hitler completed the creation of a unified Germany — albeit not in the way he intended!

    All those expulsions from Eastern Europe, Silesia, and East Prussia…plus the massive discussion of housing stock everywhere…plus flight from the worker’s paradise in the post-war decade — it all made for far more homogeneous Germany than what had existed before.

    I remember when I visited Regensburg; I had chosen it because it hadn’t been bombed to pieces. Once there, I discovered that precisely because it hadn’t been bombed to pieces, massive quantities of refugees from elsewhere were promptly settled on the town; the population tripled.

    Obviously, Regensburg must have lost a good deal of whatever parochial identity it may have once had in the process.

    •�Replies: @Wielgus
    @Colin Wright

    Manstein reminds me a bit of Netanyahu in appearance, and a lot of Ashkenazim clearly have Slavic blood.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_Manstein#/media/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-218-0543-10,_Russland-S%C3%BCd,_Erich_v._Manstein,_Hermann_Hoth.jpg

    In this photo, both he and Hermann Hoth have most impressive conks...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_Manstein#/media/File:Gen._Erich_von_Manstein_na_froncie_pod_Kerczem_na_Ukrainie._(2-678).jpg

    And an impressive profile shot. If he had been in a black caftan, the Einsatzgruppen would certainly have taken an interest. I believe there were indeed rumours during the war.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_Manstein#/media/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-705-0262-06,_Ukraine,_von_Manstein_und_Speidel.jpg

    And perhaps the most impressive of all...
  260. ‘“Since when have you ever given a damn about Whites? You are nothing but a cheerleader for globohomo”

    This is just bizarre on your part…’

    ? I think of you as a cheerleader for globohomo. If you want to correct my impression, you go right ahead.

    ‘Regardless, my point still stands—Pixo’s policy preference is anti-white and elitist, as it only seeks to benefit wealthy, high IQ whites. Why are you seemingly coming to his defense?’

    Leaving aside the validity of your characterization of Pixo’s preferences, what group of whites do you think we should seek to benefit? How is seeking to benefit the wealthy ones ‘anti-white’? Is it bad for whites for them to be wealthy? Is it like over-watering lavender 0r something?

  261. @HA
    @Colin Wright

    " But we avoided unnecessary or useless disputes if at all possible: Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1968."

    Remind us, what agreements not to invade did Moscow violate when it invaded fellow members of the Warsaw Pact?

    And back then -- i.e. 1956 is 3 years after the CIA helped oust Mosaddegh -- both sides of the Cold War had no problem with brutish shenanigans, though even then, rolling our tanks onto neighboring populations was something we generally frowned upon. And after the Cold War ended, we were supposed to put that behind us. You may denounce the invasion of Iraq, and I wouldn't complain, but Bush spent over a year building an international consensus to do what he did, precisely so as to try and distinguish himself from the king of bullying the Soviets showed in Prague and Budapest.

    If you want to be all touchy when it comes to the neo-cons brutalizing other countries, don't sit back and complain about poor little Putin not getting enough sympathy. It's not a good look. How does that even need explaining?

    "blowing up pipelines, apparently sanctioning terrorist attacks, and giving the Ukrainians missiles capable of firing deep into Russia does head down that road...."

    Yeah, get back to us when we launch a special military operation and roll tanks into Cuba to liberate all those Guantanameras and add their star onto the 50 others in the flag...and then, on top of that, threaten to nuke the rest of the world if they get in the way.Your moral equivalences show a distinct skew.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    Your post makes no sense.

  262. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Frau Katze

    "No one is pushing for war with Russia."

    Then why is there a war with Russia?

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    Russia invaded Ukraine. The Ukrainians are fighting back.

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    'Russia invaded Ukraine. The Ukrainians are fighting back.'
    True as far as it goes. What you omit is that we chose to provoke that invasion. A line had been drawn in the sand for thirty years -- a line that it had been perfectly possible to respect. We chose to cross it.

    You also omit that the only reasonable settlement of this war possible has been on the table since two months after the fighting started -- yet we insist on the fighting continuing, and it only continues because we continue to fund it.

    Russia is not everybody's great big friend. However, we chose to bring this war about, and we insist that it go on. If the Russians aren't the good guys here, neither are we.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Frau Katze, @Jack D
    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Frau Katze

    Translation: "Hi, I have no idea how the world works."

    Welcome to Cafe Corvinus! Table for one?

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Sam Malone
    , @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    Russia intervened, ill-prepared and hurriedly, after House Biden greed enabled the Kill All Russians faction to link up with the State Department, and turn clumsy bigoted discrimination against Donbas Ukrainians into mass murder of Donbas Ukrainians. Now Ukraine has no path to victory, is missing a huge amount of the most intelligent Ukrainians who voted with their feet, and even Eurocrats are talking about negotiation.
    Expanding this to Georgia and Kirgizstan, the DC Green Zone swamp creature filth have played this game about six or seven times, and always with the same result. But go ahead, tell me about the next round of sanctions, which will topple Putin and ensure the installation of Yakoff Smirnoff.
  263. @vinteuil
    @Frau Katze

    Oh, and:

    No one knows who did the pipeline job.
    Everybody knows who did the pipeline job.

    Everybody knows - you silly bastard, pretending to be a bitch.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    You have a theory on the pipeline. (I don’t what your theory is either). You don’t have a fact.

    The quality of your argument is not improved by ad hominem attacks.

    •�Replies: @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    Trufax: how can the Prime Minister of Great Britain leak a state secret if nobody even remembers her -- Reign? Administration? Term? I don't know the correct word. Or her name. But --
    It's done.
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Frau Katze


    The quality of your argument is not improved by ad hominem attacks.
    The quality of your comments is certainly not improved by their vapid stupidity.
  264. @Peter Akuleyev
    @J.Ross

    The fact that you posted that makes you weird. This is exactly what the Dems are talking about. The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @AnotherDad, @mc23, @Wilkey

    The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.

    It is the Democrats who have spent the last several decades forcing its sexual preferences (in every sense of the word) on everyone else’s children.

    I won’t obsess about anyone else’s sexual preferences if you won’t force me to believe that a biological man is actually a woman (and vice versa), and if you don’t force my young daughters to share a locker room with a woman who has a penis.

    The Left doesn’t care whether or not the tiny human growing inside my wife’s body lives or dies, but it is absolutely adamant that if we choose to let it live that my wife and I should have no say how *our* tax dollars are used to educate *our* children.

    •�Thanks: deep anonymous
    •�Replies: @Curle
    @Wilkey

    Agree. The D coalition is full of people who have so completely absorbed the belief that society should be 99% the function of social engineering pursuing political coalition goals, goals easily susceptible to unconsciously harmful aims, that they are incapable of imagining as anything but ‘weird’ people who believe human nature has natural, evolutionary, components that it would be advisable to accommodate. Keeping a tribe of people connected by genetic affinity and facilitating that process by keeping children alive being one of those accommodations.
  265. @HA
    @epebble

    "He is starting to feel he may lose. This is the rabies virus spreading. It will consume him."

    He was very confident the Democrats would never get rid of Sleepy Joe, and it's almost certain he wouldn't have gone with Vance if he knew Harris was the main ticket.

    JUN 29 Why Trump wants Biden to stay in the race

    During an interview with Fox News Digital after the debate, Trump was asked if he believes Biden will be the Democratic nominee.

    “Yes, I think he will be the nominee,” the former president answered....The greater question for Team Trump is now: Is it better to run against the “devil you know” than against one you don’t?

    The obvious answer for me — and many I speak with — is that it would be much better for Trump if Biden remains the Democratic nominee. Reason one of course being Biden’s debate disaster... That becomes a huge net-plus for Trump.
    It could all still work out well for him, to where he goes back to being too cocky again. (In particular, as happened before with Hillary, the Democrats might choose to get too cocky first, and that certainly didn't work out well.) But for now, the loss of Biden still stings.

    Replies: @epebble, @Curle, @Patrick McNally

    Well, within 24 hours, he reloaded the gun, aimed directly at foot and took a perfect shot:

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/31/us/harris-trump-election

    I am now starting to believe he is secretly planning to throw the election to Harris. This was obviously a simple question where he could have brushed aside the DEI and said her policies are not good for America. Instead, he carefully picked up the doo-doo and flung it into his mouth.

    Could this be the point when he lost the election?

    Like:

    Almost makes one pine for responses like:

    •�Replies: @HA
    @epebble

    "Instead, he carefully picked up the doo-doo and flung it into his mouth."

    To his base, I think that just makes him more lovable. Since it involves some off-color language, I'll put the illustrative link below the MORE tag.

    Has anyone mentioned yet that the Democrats have taken to calling this kind of behavior "weird"? Agree or disagree, I see it as another variation of the "He tells it like it is" approach to winning over the electorate. Next they'll be hosting BRING YOUR hooker who reminds you of your DAUGHTER TO WORK" events.

    In any case, I doubt any of it is moving the needle much, but I guess it's up to the independents and undecided to determine, and they may well see it differently. As I recall, there were numerous consolatory articles a few weeks ago that claimed that Trump was experiencing absolutely no post-shooting boost in the polls.

    I suspect some of those polls were taken before the shot was even fired, and fortified with a large dose of copium. But now, I think you're right and even he is more worried -- and that's despite people like Silver telling him the electorate count is still running in his favor. But I also think both candidates will have any number of October surprises to deal with, and maybe even a few earlier ones.

    https://twitter.com/MomSkelton/status/1786152479668986123
  266. @Prester John
    @Dr. Rock

    "...one could make a very good case to intern black males from about 13-40. Literally lock all of them up."

    Uhh, somehow I don't think it would fly.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    “…one could make a very good case to intern black males from about 13-40. Literally lock all of them up.”

    Uhh, somehow I don’t think it would fly.

    This would be a good example of one of the alternatives to Jim Crow.

    It’s why I think Jim Crow really was the most humane, practicable solution going. Not that those who introduced it were overflowing with benevolent concern for our duskier fellow citizens, but it really was the best response to the problem available — and still is.

    We don’t need to kill them. We don’t need to deport them. We don’t even need to summarily imprison them. We do need to recognize that they are inferior to the rest of us in a number of respects, and can neither be expected to meet the same expectations nor accorded the same rights.

    Do that, and they will cease to be an intolerable pain in the ass.

    •�Replies: @Corvinus
    @Colin Wright

    “It’s why I think Jim Crow really was the most humane, practicable solution going.”

    I sometimes think you make these types of statements as sarcasm. But if not, then you are remarkably foolish.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Colin Wright
  267. @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright


    No — but blowing up pipelines, apparently sanctioning terrorist attacks, and giving the Ukrainians missiles capable of firing deep into Russia does head down that road.
    No one knows who did the pipeline job.

    The Ukrainians wouldn’t need such missiles if Putin hadn’t invaded the country.

    If you want peace, why support an aggressor like Putin?

    This whole “Putin is the good guy” schtick is another sentiment endemic on Unz but not one I see elsewhere. Even at the conservative WSJ, there’s little sympathy for him (none editorially, and only the occasional commenter).

    Replies: @vinteuil, @vinteuil, @Colin Wright

    No one knows who did the pipeline job.

    Either we did it, or somebody did it with our approval.

    Of course. What’s distressing was the ferocity and unanimity of the lies to the contrary. Claiming the Russians did it was like asserting the Japanese sank their own carriers at Midway. It was nonsensical — yet everyone insisted on it.

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    I didn’t say the Russians did it, which is highly unlikely given that it was their pipeline.

    I’ve seen a theory that the Ukrainians did it. A theory, not proof. But at least they had a motive, making it a plausible theory.

    There is zero evidence that the US was involved.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright
  268. @Torna atrás
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    It never pulls at my heart strings much when people whine about how evil it was to nuke Japan. The Japs inflicted dozens of Hiroshima's worth of death and suffering upon the Koreans, Filippinos, Indonesians, Vietnamese, Indians, and Chinese.

    I’d rather take pity on those people than the Japanese when I’m a sympathetic mood. Japan could have backed down and left Korea if they were so saintly and cared more about human life than their ego and honor. They weren’t. And they didn’t.

    Japan made the wrong choice and they paid for it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Russia was the biggest winner of the Opium War.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_in_the_Opium_Wars

    Britain only annexed one city from China, Hong Kong, and made it into one of the wealthest in the world.

    Russia without barely firing a shot, help itself by grabbing more land than the size of Ukraine.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amur_Annexation

    The Japanese were shocked by Qing China’s defeat by British and Russian imperialists right in front of their doorsteps. And resolved to modernize their nation.

    Meiji leaders borrowed the slogan from Chinese Warring States period– 富国強兵 ふこくきょうへい “Enrich the Country, Strengthen the Armed Forces”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukoku_kyōhei

    That culminated in defeating China in 1895, and Russia in 1905.

    •�Thanks: J.Ross
    •�Replies: @Torna atrás
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    A friend of mine explained the Japanese view of WW2, that they were the victims. I found this difficult to understand, until I went to see a Japanese film about WW2. I was shocked. “There they were having a jolly time doing the kabuki, tea ceremonies, plays and Shinto whatever. SUDDENLY they get Nuked!” No explanation as to why or what for – it was like a Monty Python sketch.
  269. @Frau Katze
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Russia invaded Ukraine. The Ukrainians are fighting back.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @J.Ross

    ‘Russia invaded Ukraine. The Ukrainians are fighting back.’

    True as far as it goes. What you omit is that we chose to provoke that invasion. A line had been drawn in the sand for thirty years — a line that it had been perfectly possible to respect. We chose to cross it.

    You also omit that the only reasonable settlement of this war possible has been on the table since two months after the fighting started — yet we insist on the fighting continuing, and it only continues because we continue to fund it.

    Russia is not everybody’s great big friend. However, we chose to bring this war about, and we insist that it go on. If the Russians aren’t the good guys here, neither are we.

    •�Agree: Curle, Mr. Anon, Sam Malone
    •�Disagree: Corvinus
    •�Thanks: MEH 0910
    •�Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Colin Wright

    Well said.
    , @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    Putin swiped Crimea back in the Obama administration. Who let him get away with it.

    Then he got more ambitious. I’ve read that something Biden said led him to think he could get away with seizing the whole Ukraine. (Not sure if this is true or not).

    But he was wrong if that’s what he thought.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer
    , @Jack D
    @Colin Wright


    What you omit is that we chose to provoke that invasion.
    It's omitted because it is a lie. Even if it was true it would not justify a military invasion of a sovereign country anymore than wearing a tight dress justifies rape.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @The Germ Theory of Disease
  270. @Frau Katze
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Russia invaded Ukraine. The Ukrainians are fighting back.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @J.Ross

    Translation: “Hi, I have no idea how the world works.”

    Welcome to Cafe Corvinus! Table for one?

    •�Agree: Mr. Anon
    •�LOL: Renard
    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Am I failing to pick on some conspiracy theory current on the Unz Review (which not representative of either conventional left or right thinking)?

    This place is plain weird.
    , @Sam Malone
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Russia invaded Ukraine. The Ukrainians are fighting back.
    Let's all take a moment to remember this is also, as far as I've ever seen, the beginning and end of Steve's views on this topic, or rather it's the deliberately simplistic reasoning he's adopted as his public posture.

    "The bad people are doing bad things, purely because they're bad, and shucks, I just don't like bad stuff, so I'll not admit anything deeper could be going on involving unjust and unwise behavior by my country's foreign policy elite, and instead just repeat whatever jingoistic propaganda is fed to me from the same uniparty establishment I admit to mistrusting on any number of demographic / domestic issues."

    Steve's really smart, and George W. Bush was really dumb, but this line isn't too far away from Bush's position after September 11 that essentially we were hit only because "they hate us because we're free".

    You'd think Steve would be a little embarrassed to maintain such a position on such a crucial matter in world affairs, but maybe he doesn't have the bandwidth to get involved in every issue. And there's a lot of hay to be made in the bad-black-driving-statistics and black-histrionics-over-their-hair world. Priorities, priorities.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
  271. @Frau Katze
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Russia invaded Ukraine. The Ukrainians are fighting back.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @J.Ross

    Russia intervened, ill-prepared and hurriedly, after House Biden greed enabled the Kill All Russians faction to link up with the State Department, and turn clumsy bigoted discrimination against Donbas Ukrainians into mass murder of Donbas Ukrainians. Now Ukraine has no path to victory, is missing a huge amount of the most intelligent Ukrainians who voted with their feet, and even Eurocrats are talking about negotiation.
    Expanding this to Georgia and Kirgizstan, the DC Green Zone swamp creature filth have played this game about six or seven times, and always with the same result. But go ahead, tell me about the next round of sanctions, which will topple Putin and ensure the installation of Yakoff Smirnoff.

    •�Disagree: Frau Katze
  272. @Frau Katze
    @vinteuil

    You have a theory on the pipeline. (I don’t what your theory is either). You don’t have a fact.

    The quality of your argument is not improved by ad hominem attacks.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mr. Anon

    Trufax: how can the Prime Minister of Great Britain leak a state secret if nobody even remembers her — Reign? Administration? Term? I don’t know the correct word. Or her name. But —
    It’s done.

  273. @J.Ross
    @Gandydancer

    That sounds like a more formalized version of what we already have, retaining all current problems. Really the only thing wrong with our system is communists acting in bad faith because they hate it and want a new one.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    That sounds like a more formalized version of what we already have, retaining all current problems.

    That’s a really dumb thing to say. My suggestion may have problems, but it’s not remotely the same as what we have now. Anyway, there’s nothing else in your empty and vapid comment to reply to.

    •�Replies: @J.Ross
    @Gandydancer

    We pretty much know at a certain point who the candidates will be and legal issues literate news followers pretty much know who they would if possible nominate, so.
    [Line drawing of a pigeon, staring at you.]
    ------
    [Listening to Hugh Hewitt for the first time in forever amid much news; he begins his broadcast, uncharacteristically, by thrice naming the same animal I had just been visualizing -- ha -- F Blinken -- Harris, no interview -- Defining Competence Down -- Harris no interviews because the Handlers are scared of what she might say. Because she's an idiot. Haaa.]
  274. @Anonymous
    Well, it's now unlisted from his channel, so maybe they're aware of the optics.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    Well, [Kamela bailed out criminals ad is] now unlisted from his channel, so maybe they’re aware of the optics.

    Confess — you never saw it until you saw it here, so you have no idea whether it was “unlisted”. And the optics are fine for anyone outside your narrow circle of Trump haters who aren’t going to vote for Trump anyway. Like the upgrade from Pence to Vance this ad is a good sign that Trump has gotten more based.

  275. Anonymous[290] •�Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    @anonymous


    I was once on an inmate bus full of black guys being transported to Santa Rita. A guy next to me, about 40, says, “man, I’m tired a goin’ to jail fo’, five times a year. I’m gonna turn over a new leaf.”
    The key to bringing errant negroes to heel is… Time.

    Following 20 years in prison, the negro's testosterone level decreases, the musculature atrophies, social agency is significantly and forever diminished. It’s very difficult for an ex-con to "run with the negroes" at 45 years of age. That is a young negro's game. Time in prison won’t carry a lot of street cred at that age.

    Prison is just the modern gentleman's answer to castration, which has been a method of retarding the hardcore negro's inclination to destroy, for thousands of years. It was the standard go-to method of Muslim slave traders, who've had far more direct experience with negro slave trading than the west by a longshot, dwarfing the United States, and even South America in numbers during their slave periods, and easily to this very day.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    who’ve had far more direct experience with negro slave trading than the west by a longshot, dwarfing the United States, and even South America in numbers during their slave periods, and easily to this very day.

    Is there a book where one can read more about this?

  276. @AnotherDad
    Well, it's about something. That's good. And something visceral. That's even better.

    The problem is it's about bail. Which is something you are entitled to. It's right there in the 8th Amendment to the Constitution: "Excessive bail shall not be required." So some judge decided these criminals were bailable ... and the mau-mauing minoritarians were merely making sure there was no "income discrimination" or something.

    More disgusting was the Parasite Party's whole encouragement of riot--"You should be really mad! Covid has been suspended ... just for you to go out and riot!"--after the George Floyd OD. Whip up riot and disorder in support of a lie.


    But what the election should be most about is the far, far, far more destructive "Open Border Tsar Kamala Harris's" open border. Unfortunately the real destruction isn't captured in mug shots. It's in the destruction of "Affordable Family Formation" for young Americans, and long term simply the destruction of the American nation, who we are.

    It's a harder ad to make, but Trump needs to find people who can make it. And get the American people--the persuadable ones--to see that the "Biden Harris Administration" is a treasonous cabal waging war upon the American people and our posterity.

    Replies: @Griff, @TWS, @Gandydancer, @Jack D

    The problem is it’s about bail. Which is something you are entitled to. It’s right there in the 8th Amendment to the Constitution: “Excessive bail shall not be required.” So some judge decided these criminals were bailable … and the mau-mauing minoritarians were merely making sure there was no “income discrimination” or something.

    But the ad is about people who apparently weren’t actually bailable, and about Harris undermining whatever functionality bail has. Yes, the former is maybe the fault of judges, but the latter is entirely Harris’ faulkt. If it’s not the bailee’s money the the necessity of providing it has no purchase on the individual being bailed out.

    Anyway, the Constitution doesn’t determine what your actual rights are. It’s an attempt to write them down, but if it’s not working — and here Harris was interfering with what is in any case a poorly functioning system — it is best to remember: “The Constitution is not a suicide pact.”

  277. @Colin Wright
    @Wielgus


    'Manstein was of partly Kashubian ancestry and changed his name from Lewinski, though perhaps partly from worries he might be taken for a Jew.
    Find a shot of him in profile, and you'll realize the concern was understandable. He definitely had an impressive beak.




    Sajer was, I believe, part-French and may have found ethnic origins and outsider status fascinating for that reason.



    He refers to that in his account; his ambivalence about his status in his unit. His father was French but his mother German. The Germans generously decided he was therefore German and drafted him. After the war, the French forgave him -- on condition that he serve a couple of years in the French army.
    Even a shared German language was not necessarily effective as many until recently at least were more comfortable speaking various dialects, sometimes far removed from standard German. Whether German speakers were Catholic or Lutheran could also trump German identity.'
    Indeed. One of the more morbid ironies of history is that Hitler completed the creation of a unified Germany -- albeit not in the way he intended!

    All those expulsions from Eastern Europe, Silesia, and East Prussia...plus the massive discussion of housing stock everywhere...plus flight from the worker's paradise in the post-war decade -- it all made for far more homogeneous Germany than what had existed before.

    I remember when I visited Regensburg; I had chosen it because it hadn't been bombed to pieces. Once there, I discovered that precisely because it hadn't been bombed to pieces, massive quantities of refugees from elsewhere were promptly settled on the town; the population tripled.

    Obviously, Regensburg must have lost a good deal of whatever parochial identity it may have once had in the process.

    Replies: @Wielgus

    Manstein reminds me a bit of Netanyahu in appearance, and a lot of Ashkenazim clearly have Slavic blood.

    In this photo, both he and Hermann Hoth have most impressive conks…

    And an impressive profile shot. If he had been in a black caftan, the Einsatzgruppen would certainly have taken an interest. I believe there were indeed rumours during the war.

    And perhaps the most impressive of all…

  278. @Gandydancer
    @J.Ross


    That sounds like a more formalized version of what we already have, retaining all current problems.
    That's a really dumb thing to say. My suggestion may have problems, but it's not remotely the same as what we have now. Anyway, there's nothing else in your empty and vapid comment to reply to.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    We pretty much know at a certain point who the candidates will be and legal issues literate news followers pretty much know who they would if possible nominate, so.
    [Line drawing of a pigeon, staring at you.]
    ——
    [Listening to Hugh Hewitt for the first time in forever amid much news; he begins his broadcast, uncharacteristically, by thrice naming the same animal I had just been visualizing — ha — F Blinken — Harris, no interview — Defining Competence Down — Harris no interviews because the Handlers are scared of what she might say. Because she’s an idiot. Haaa.]

  279. @anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    Sex by nature is important. And the civilized races have evolved both genetically and culturally in ways to support the reproduction of civilization. We are not designed as people to be pump and dumpers, but to be able to bond for the long commitment of raising productive civilized replacement people.
    Since I never got married, I dated a lot of women, a number of them shared their abortion experience with me, and I’ve discovered a nasty little secret the pro-abortionists will never address, and that’s botched legal abortions.

    Abortions aren’t a simple procedure. It takes a lot out of a woman psychologically, some never get over it, if the doctor fucks up, the girl will be sterile the rest of her life, and "qualified" doctors, by the telling to me by women who've had legal abortions, fuck up a lot more than pro-abortionists would have women believe.

    If I were a girl who got pregnant, didn’t want the baby, but wanted to have them in the future, no fucking WAY would I elect to abort the baby. It’s FAR safer to just have the baby and put it up for adoption.

    For myself, as a man, I’m absolutely FOR abortion, since it keeps the miscreant and hopeless population down, and it makes life FAR easier, and cheaper, for me. But if I were female… no fucking way!

    I’ve always said the most formidable obstacle for women achieving their dream life is other women. Women should quit listening to each other's stupid, crazy shit. Women trusting women will always be their downfall.

    Replies: @Anon, @Jonathan Mason

    I am about as agnostic as anyone can be on abortion.

    I’m not in favor of it, but I can understand that there are situations where women desperately want to avoid continuing a pregnancy.

    However I don’t think you’ve got it right when you say that continuing pregnancy to term is medically safer than having an abortion.

    This might be applicable in the case of late stage abortions where abnormalities have been discovered, but it is not the case with first trimester abortions which are much safer than continued pregnancies.

    A reasonable law would be to allow first trimester abortions at will, but later abortions should have to be approved by something equivalent to a mental health tribunal but which would be a panel consisting of at least two doctors qualified in ob/gyn and one judge, who were not personally involved in the case.

    In cases of emergency abortions to save the life of the woman the panel would have to consider them retrospectively.

    •�Replies: @jsm
    @Jonathan Mason


    However I don’t think you’ve got it right when you say that continuing pregnancy to term is medically safer than having an abortion.
    It depends. For instance, having an abortion causes a risk of something called Asherman's Syndrome where the raw uterine borders form scar tissue and scar the uterus shut, causing anything from mild to total infertility OR, at the birth of the next child increased risk of something called placenta accreta, which can go undiagnosed until post-birth hemorrage because placenta won't let go, placing Mother's life in danger.

    And, the dangers of post-abortion infection vs. childbed fever, it depends on the person and chances cannot be predicted before occurrence.

    In some cases, abortion clearly IS the safer choice. For instance, if mother is suffering from something called Hyperemesis Gravidarum, where the pregnancy nausea is so severe that she is literally starving to death from inability to eat or drink. And IVs can only do so much. Sometimes abortion is the only option.
  280. @bomag
    @Jonathan Mason


    Just trying to do the decent thing and comply with international treaties.
    Wasn't that, basically, the argument for going into WWI?

    Not sure that demographic-shifting immigration is a decent thing.

    International treaties should not be a suicide pact.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    International treaties should not be a suicide pact.

    I certainly agree with that, but politicians who have raised the question of withdrawing from the United Nations Convention on Refugees have not been able to get any traction.

    If I remember correctly, the conservative politician in the UK Suella Braverman trial ballooned that angle, and it never got off the ground.

    I haven’t heard Trump even mention the subject.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/sep/26/un-suella-braverman-refugee-convention-unhcr-migration

  281. @Colin Wright
    @Prester John


    “…one could make a very good case to intern black males from about 13-40. Literally lock all of them up.”

    Uhh, somehow I don’t think it would fly.
    This would be a good example of one of the alternatives to Jim Crow.

    It's why I think Jim Crow really was the most humane, practicable solution going. Not that those who introduced it were overflowing with benevolent concern for our duskier fellow citizens, but it really was the best response to the problem available -- and still is.

    We don't need to kill them. We don't need to deport them. We don't even need to summarily imprison them. We do need to recognize that they are inferior to the rest of us in a number of respects, and can neither be expected to meet the same expectations nor accorded the same rights.

    Do that, and they will cease to be an intolerable pain in the ass.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “It’s why I think Jim Crow really was the most humane, practicable solution going.”

    I sometimes think you make these types of statements as sarcasm. But if not, then you are remarkably foolish.

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Corvinus


    I sometimes think you make these types of statements as sarcasm. But if not, then you are remarkably foolish.
    You're mistaken on both counts.

    Jim Crow worked. Blacks caused relatively little trouble, and as black colleges, a black middle class, black baseball, black churches, and black music demonstrate, developed a relatively successful community life of their own.

    Compare and contrast to now. Explain to me how now is so much better.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corvinus
    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Corvinus

    This

    https://www.unz.com/article/june-2024-black-on-white-homicide-report/

    is what happens in this country, EVERY *SINGLE* DAY, MORON,

    when the wild animals stop fearing the humans.

    Look at the vacant, hollow eyes of the perps. Then tell me sociology is to blame.

    I want you to go to every single one of these funerals, and yammer on to the families about Emmett Till. I'm sure they'll feel appropriately guilty.
    , @Colin Wright
    @Corvinus


    '...I sometimes think you make these types of statements as sarcasm. But if not, then you are remarkably foolish.'
    You're mistaken on both counts.
  282. @HA
    @epebble

    "He is starting to feel he may lose. This is the rabies virus spreading. It will consume him."

    He was very confident the Democrats would never get rid of Sleepy Joe, and it's almost certain he wouldn't have gone with Vance if he knew Harris was the main ticket.

    JUN 29 Why Trump wants Biden to stay in the race

    During an interview with Fox News Digital after the debate, Trump was asked if he believes Biden will be the Democratic nominee.

    “Yes, I think he will be the nominee,” the former president answered....The greater question for Team Trump is now: Is it better to run against the “devil you know” than against one you don’t?

    The obvious answer for me — and many I speak with — is that it would be much better for Trump if Biden remains the Democratic nominee. Reason one of course being Biden’s debate disaster... That becomes a huge net-plus for Trump.
    It could all still work out well for him, to where he goes back to being too cocky again. (In particular, as happened before with Hillary, the Democrats might choose to get too cocky first, and that certainly didn't work out well.) But for now, the loss of Biden still stings.

    Replies: @epebble, @Curle, @Patrick McNally

    He was very confident the Democrats would never get rid of Sleepy Joe, and it’s almost certain he wouldn’t have gone with Vance if he knew Harris was the main ticket.

    From “[y]es I think he will be the nominee” you came up with all of the above? Which of your other thoughts and ideas do you want to project onto Trump?

    •�Replies: @HA
    @Curle

    "From “[y]es I think he will be the nominee” you came up with all of the above?"

    I can only link one article at a time. It doesn't mean there isn't plenty more where that came from, it just means you'll have to stop being a lazy ass and do some research for yourself now and again.

    Don't go, Joe: flummoxed Trump campaign wants Biden to stay in race...

    “He’s got an ego and he doesn’t want to quit,” Trump said.

    Donald Trump Wants Joe Biden to Stay in the Race

    [paywall] Trump advisers hope Biden stays in race,

    Trump predicts Biden will stay in presidential race

    A few of those are redundant, and refer to the same call with Hannity, but seriously, how hard is it to type "Trump wanted biden to stay in" into a search engine? I even typoed the word 'wanted' it the first time I tried, and still managed to get all the above.
  283. @Reg Cæsar
    @Cagey Beast

    Those are blamed on the Brits. As if Chinese addicts lacked agency.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Some Chinese have blamed them on the Brits and Baghdadi Jews

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sassoon_family

    But I have made extensive comments defending the British and Sassoon’s position.

    https://www.unz.com/?s=opium&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=China+Japan+and+Korea+Bromance+of+Three+Kingdoms

    Chinese in general blame the Japanese the most, followed by Westerners.

    But former Russian aggression against China is never spoken of even though it was arguable the worst.

    •�Replies: @Torna atrás
    @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms

    Moscow Victory Parade on a rainy June 24, 1945.

    Japanese representatives congratulate Marshal of the Soviet Union Georgy Zhukov.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EguN6bUWkAAl4si.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Egx3oqrWoAAF2QN.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Egx4hfsWkAEanob.jpg
  284. @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    'But the question is why are Times readers committed Dems? I suggest that the abortion issue is a big reason.'
    I suspect otherwise. Trump or the Republicans could take any stance on abortion at all; the Times readers would still vote Democrat. There's certainly a swing vote here -- but it doesn't read the Times.

    Replies: @Curle

    Trump or the Republicans could take any stance on abortion at all; the Times readers would still vote Democrat.

    Agree. Crime and economic collapse seem to be the only things that move them if the history of the mid-‘70s to ‘80s provides any clues. And, by NYT readers I’m thinking of yuppies living in expensive neighborhoods where they are protected by real estate prices from living next door to non-yuppies and the police or demographics keep crime mostly under control.

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Curle


    ...And, by NYT readers I’m thinking of yuppies living in expensive neighborhoods where they are protected by real estate prices from living next door to non-yuppies and the police or demographics keep crime mostly under control.
    Indeed. My daughter lives in a neighborhood that was about average for Richmond, California: vagrants everywhere, illegals living in their cars everywhere -- and heavy black crime. A shadetree mechanic who lived across the street from her was murdered by an unhappy customer.

    So she drove to school at Cal Berkeley, and her route took her through the (affluent) Berkeley Hills. No vagrants, no illegals, and no black crime. The endless 'Black Lives Matter' and 'No person is illegal' signs used to drive her wild.
  285. @Jonathan Mason
    @J.Ross

    Just trying to do the decent thing and comply with international treaties.

    In the UK many supposed asylum seekers have been accommodated in hotels rather than given tents on abandoned airfields.

    Of course you could argue that this also provides a massive subsidy to the hotel and catering industry, so some of the money spent by the government would come back in VAT.

    I don't think there is any deliberate plan to bankrupt the country by mollycoddling so-called asylum seekers, but obviously if any country takes on a significant percentage of its population as asylum seekers, then the standard of living for all will be lowered.

    Replies: @bomag, @Gordo, @Gandydancer

    There are no genuine asylum seekers in the UK.

    Asylum seekers, according to the United Nations, must stop in the first safe country.

    There is not one genuine asylum seeker in the United Kingdom, not one.

  286. @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    'Russia invaded Ukraine. The Ukrainians are fighting back.'
    True as far as it goes. What you omit is that we chose to provoke that invasion. A line had been drawn in the sand for thirty years -- a line that it had been perfectly possible to respect. We chose to cross it.

    You also omit that the only reasonable settlement of this war possible has been on the table since two months after the fighting started -- yet we insist on the fighting continuing, and it only continues because we continue to fund it.

    Russia is not everybody's great big friend. However, we chose to bring this war about, and we insist that it go on. If the Russians aren't the good guys here, neither are we.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Frau Katze, @Jack D

    Well said.

    •�Thanks: Colin Wright
  287. @Frau Katze
    @Anon

    I read a lot of reader comments at NYT (on certain articles).

    Whenever the election comes up, the commenters bring up abortion. It’s a totally losing plank for Republicans.

    Replies: @epebble, @Colin Wright, @kaganovitch, @Rapparee, @Mr. Anon

    People who read the New York Times aren’t conservatives; they overwhelmingly don’t vote for Republicans. Those few who do would never vote for Donald Trump.

    If Donald Trump made a public statement in favor of regular dental hygiene or dogs, there would be comments in the Times advocating the outlawing of tooth brushes and in favor of shooting puppies in the face.

  288. @Wilkey
    @Peter Akuleyev


    The Republicans are riddled with weirdos who spend a lot of time obsessing about other people’s sexual preferences.
    It is the Democrats who have spent the last several decades forcing its sexual preferences (in every sense of the word) on everyone else’s children.

    I won’t obsess about anyone else’s sexual preferences if you won’t force me to believe that a biological man is actually a woman (and vice versa), and if you don’t force my young daughters to share a locker room with a woman who has a penis.

    The Left doesn’t care whether or not the tiny human growing inside my wife’s body lives or dies, but it is absolutely adamant that if we choose to let it live that my wife and I should have no say how *our* tax dollars are used to educate *our* children.

    Replies: @Curle

    Agree. The D coalition is full of people who have so completely absorbed the belief that society should be 99% the function of social engineering pursuing political coalition goals, goals easily susceptible to unconsciously harmful aims, that they are incapable of imagining as anything but ‘weird’ people who believe human nature has natural, evolutionary, components that it would be advisable to accommodate. Keeping a tribe of people connected by genetic affinity and facilitating that process by keeping children alive being one of those accommodations.

  289. @Frau Katze
    @vinteuil

    You have a theory on the pipeline. (I don’t what your theory is either). You don’t have a fact.

    The quality of your argument is not improved by ad hominem attacks.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mr. Anon

    The quality of your argument is not improved by ad hominem attacks.

    The quality of your comments is certainly not improved by their vapid stupidity.

    •�Troll: Frau Katze
  290. @Altai4
    On the topic of Kamala, I just found out she is apparently claiming, albeit to an audience at AIPAC behind closed doors in 2018 that as a young child she and her sister went around Oakland soliciting donations for the Jewish National Fund! It sounds an awful lot like a ridiculous election campaign story like Hilary ducking from snipers but I know nothing of Oakland in the 70s.

    Perhaps more surprising is that some guy at a campaign event challenged Kamala to release the transcript of what she said behind closed doors at an AIPAC event and she did!

    https://theintercept.com/2018/03/07/kamala-harris-israel-aipac

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-aipac-off-the-record_n_5c734f6ae4b06cf6bb27892d

    Interviewer: I could not agree with you more. And so you began by talking about how you received and you were instilled justice from your parents. So I was wondering if you could tell myself, and I’m sure everyone else is wondering, where exactly your support for Israel comes from?

    Harris: Well I grew up, it’s just it was always part of my life. I grew up ― we, and maybe many of you, I don’t know if anyone is still doing this with the vigor with which we would do it, but we would have our little boxes where we were raising money to plant trees for Israel. (Laughs) And we would go around with our box, and you know, I actually never sold Girl Scout cookies, but I raised money to plant trees in Israel. So it was just, it’s always been, it’s always been there. I’ve been to Israel three times, most recently in November of last year. I promised friends and myself that I would go before the end of my first year as a United States Senator, and it is just something that has always been a part of me. I don’t know when it started, it’s almost like saying when did you first realize you loved your family, or love your country, it just was always there. It was always there. But I will also say something that connects to the earlier point that you made. So this weekend, in fact late last night, I got back from Selma, from Alabama. And I was there with a bipartisan delegation of members of Congress to commemorate, not really celebrate, but commemorate the crossing of the Edmund Pettus Bridge, which occurred 53 years ago, and was highlighted because it was a notoriously awful day in what was called Bloody Sunday. Which is when a group of people that were black and white and brown and every color under the rainbow, a group of people that were ministers and rabbis, people of all ages, from all areas of the country, 25,000 in number by the third day that they tried to take that walk across that bridge, who marched together hand in hand to fight for everyone’s civil rights, and in particular the right of African American’s to vote, at that time.
    Of course the JNF forest planting has never been innocent and was used to plant over many ethnically cleansed Palestinian villages and towns Jews didn't repopulate and even ones they did. There was never any ecological or commercial need to raise money to plant spruce forests in Israel. And indeed is ongoing to this day. It's really just a way to funnel money to Israel from the diaspora over and above what they already give as I'm sure most of the money is pocketed.

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-tree-planting-in-the-negev-sparked-protests-riots-and-a-coalition-crisis

    https://www.architectural-review.com/essays/books/violence-of-planting-in-israel-palestine

    https://www.972mag.com/jnf-germany-palestinians-forests

    https://rogersmovienation.com/2022/08/03/documentary-review-a-jew-searches-for-my-tree-planted-in-israel-in-his-honor-and-finds-guilt-and-regret-instead

    It was also a way to scam diaspora Jews in the infamous trick of having parcels of land where trees are constantly "planted" by American Jewish tourists only to be dug up for it or another tree to be planted by the next sucker.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2000/07/03/world/arboreal-scandal-in-israel-not-all-of-the-trees-planted-there-stay-planted.html

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/2000/07/03/famed-saplings-planted-in-israel-lose-ground-to-great-tree-fraud

    Replies: @mel belli, @Greta Handel, @Jack D

    1st of all, that article was from 2000. There was one isolated incident where a single crew of lazy workers, rather than dig fresh holes for tourists to plant trees, would just tear up yesterday’s plantings. This happened ONCE in 100 years. It was not the norm.

    JNF always BOUGHT the land on which it planted trees. Once someone sells you their land you can do any damn thing you want with it. When I hike thru the forest in NE I often see stone fences and the foundations of houses in the woods. A lot of the NE forest is former farmland that has reverted to forest.

    “Forests” in Israel don’t look like forests in the Pacific NW. It’s a very arid climate. The trees don’t grow 250 ft. tall. But they have been able, by planting drought resistant species, to get forests to grow in areas with as little as 10 inches of annual rainfall.

    https://www.jpost.com/business-and-innovation/environment/making-israels-forests-thriveeven-in-the-desert-448670

    https://www.jpost.com//HttpHandlers/ShowImage.ashx?id=334496&w=822&h=537

  291. @AnotherDad
    Well, it's about something. That's good. And something visceral. That's even better.

    The problem is it's about bail. Which is something you are entitled to. It's right there in the 8th Amendment to the Constitution: "Excessive bail shall not be required." So some judge decided these criminals were bailable ... and the mau-mauing minoritarians were merely making sure there was no "income discrimination" or something.

    More disgusting was the Parasite Party's whole encouragement of riot--"You should be really mad! Covid has been suspended ... just for you to go out and riot!"--after the George Floyd OD. Whip up riot and disorder in support of a lie.


    But what the election should be most about is the far, far, far more destructive "Open Border Tsar Kamala Harris's" open border. Unfortunately the real destruction isn't captured in mug shots. It's in the destruction of "Affordable Family Formation" for young Americans, and long term simply the destruction of the American nation, who we are.

    It's a harder ad to make, but Trump needs to find people who can make it. And get the American people--the persuadable ones--to see that the "Biden Harris Administration" is a treasonous cabal waging war upon the American people and our posterity.

    Replies: @Griff, @TWS, @Gandydancer, @Jack D

    The bail system worked just fine for the last 200 years. The judge makes a balanced decision about how much bail should be required given the severity of the alleged crime, the likelihood that the defendant will not flee or will reoffend pending trial, etc.

    If your mama has posted her house as collateral for your bail, you are more likely to show up because if you don’t then she will lose her house. If you are such a lowlife that you have no friends or relatives who are willing to post bail for you even though it is not a large amount, then this is a sign that your are rootless and probably should be kept in jail until your trial because you will just disappear if they let you go.

    When some Leftist organization posts your bail for you, this completely upsets this carefully worked out balance and people who should not have been allowed to go free go free and commit crimes.

    No one is saying that bail, which is your Constitutional right, should never be granted (although sometimes it is not granted ) but the Founders did not contemplate a situation where rich Leftists in coalition with lowlifes would undermine their carefully balanced framework. This is true of a lot of things in our society. My father used to say “a lock is for an honest man”, meaning that someone with malicious intent could defeat any lock. I think you can also say “a Constitution is for an honest man” for the same reason.

    •�Agree: deep anonymous, J.Ross
  292. @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    No one knows who did the pipeline job.
    Either we did it, or somebody did it with our approval.

    Of course. What's distressing was the ferocity and unanimity of the lies to the contrary. Claiming the Russians did it was like asserting the Japanese sank their own carriers at Midway. It was nonsensical -- yet everyone insisted on it.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    I didn’t say the Russians did it, which is highly unlikely given that it was their pipeline.

    I’ve seen a theory that the Ukrainians did it. A theory, not proof. But at least they had a motive, making it a plausible theory.

    There is zero evidence that the US was involved.

    •�Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Frau Katze


    I didn’t say the Russians did it, which is highly unlikely given that it was their pipeline.

    I’ve seen a theory that the Ukrainians did it. A theory, not proof. But at least they had a motive, making it a plausible theory.


    The ever-cynical follow-the-money money would be on the Qataris. They don't have the oil necessary to keep up with their Gulf neighbor Joneses. But they're the kings sultans of LNG.

    Replies: @Frau Katze
    , @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    '...I’ve seen a theory that the Ukrainians did it. A theory, not proof. But at least they had a motive, making it a plausible theory.

    There is zero evidence that the US was involved.'
    The Ukraine snuck right by us, and blew up an undersea pipeline, without our knowledge, permission, or assistance?

    Uh huh. And I've got Starlink in my house. Elon Musk had nothing to do with it. I just built the receiver, etc in my spare time.
  293. @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    'Russia invaded Ukraine. The Ukrainians are fighting back.'
    True as far as it goes. What you omit is that we chose to provoke that invasion. A line had been drawn in the sand for thirty years -- a line that it had been perfectly possible to respect. We chose to cross it.

    You also omit that the only reasonable settlement of this war possible has been on the table since two months after the fighting started -- yet we insist on the fighting continuing, and it only continues because we continue to fund it.

    Russia is not everybody's great big friend. However, we chose to bring this war about, and we insist that it go on. If the Russians aren't the good guys here, neither are we.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Frau Katze, @Jack D

    Putin swiped Crimea back in the Obama administration. Who let him get away with it.

    Then he got more ambitious. I’ve read that something Biden said led him to think he could get away with seizing the whole Ukraine. (Not sure if this is true or not).

    But he was wrong if that’s what he thought.

    •�Agree: HA
    •�Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @Frau Katze

    "...Who let him get away with it."

    He had no reasonable alternative.
  294. @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    'Russia invaded Ukraine. The Ukrainians are fighting back.'
    True as far as it goes. What you omit is that we chose to provoke that invasion. A line had been drawn in the sand for thirty years -- a line that it had been perfectly possible to respect. We chose to cross it.

    You also omit that the only reasonable settlement of this war possible has been on the table since two months after the fighting started -- yet we insist on the fighting continuing, and it only continues because we continue to fund it.

    Russia is not everybody's great big friend. However, we chose to bring this war about, and we insist that it go on. If the Russians aren't the good guys here, neither are we.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Frau Katze, @Jack D

    What you omit is that we chose to provoke that invasion.

    It’s omitted because it is a lie. Even if it was true it would not justify a military invasion of a sovereign country anymore than wearing a tight dress justifies rape.

    •�Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Jack D


    Even if it was true it would not justify a military invasion of a sovereign country anymore than wearing a tight dress justifies rape.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/cambridge-fires-cofnas-for-mentioning-racial-gaps-in-iq/#comment-6527410

    Jack D says:
    April 20, 2024 at 8:09 pm GMT
    [...]
    I “should” be able to walk the streets of North Philly at 3AM unmolested. What “should” be and what actually is are two different things.

    Replies: @Jack D
    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Jack D

    Wins the internet for Retarded Analogy of the Week. Also wins the internet for the "I Don't Understand What's Actually Going On" comment of the month.

    Have you ever won a single legal case, in your career?

    Replies: @Colin Wright
  295. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Frau Katze

    Translation: "Hi, I have no idea how the world works."

    Welcome to Cafe Corvinus! Table for one?

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Sam Malone

    Am I failing to pick on some conspiracy theory current on the Unz Review (which not representative of either conventional left or right thinking)?

    This place is plain weird.

  296. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Reg Cæsar

    Some Chinese have blamed them on the Brits and Baghdadi Jews

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sassoon_family

    But I have made extensive comments defending the British and Sassoon's position.

    https://www.unz.com/?s=opium&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=China+Japan+and+Korea+Bromance+of+Three+Kingdoms

    Chinese in general blame the Japanese the most, followed by Westerners.

    But former Russian aggression against China is never spoken of even though it was arguable the worst.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/The_real_trouble_will_come_with_the_%22wake%22_-_J._Ottmann_Lith._Co._Puck_Bldg._N.Y._LCCN2002718142.jpg

    Replies: @Torna atrás

    Moscow Victory Parade on a rainy June 24, 1945.

    Japanese representatives congratulate Marshal of the Soviet Union Georgy Zhukov.

  297. @Jack D
    @Colin Wright


    What you omit is that we chose to provoke that invasion.
    It's omitted because it is a lie. Even if it was true it would not justify a military invasion of a sovereign country anymore than wearing a tight dress justifies rape.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Even if it was true it would not justify a military invasion of a sovereign country anymore than wearing a tight dress justifies rape.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/cambridge-fires-cofnas-for-mentioning-racial-gaps-in-iq/#comment-6527410

    Jack D says:
    April 20, 2024 at 8:09 pm GMT
    […]
    I “should” be able to walk the streets of North Philly at 3AM unmolested. What “should” be and what actually is are two different things.

    •�Replies: @Jack D
    @MEH 0910

    Right but this doesn't mean that the people who attack you at 3AM should get off scott free or are even praiseworthy. No one praises muggers and rapists but some of the Men of Unz praise Putin. Even if we baited him (I don't think we did) then he was not obligated to take the bait.

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @Colin Wright
  298. @China Japan and Korea Bromance of Three Kingdoms
    @Torna atrás

    Russia was the biggest winner of the Opium War.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_in_the_Opium_Wars

    Britain only annexed one city from China, Hong Kong, and made it into one of the wealthest in the world.

    Russia without barely firing a shot, help itself by grabbing more land than the size of Ukraine.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/MANCHURIA-U.S.S.R_BOUNDARY_Ct002999.jpg

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amur_Annexation

    The Japanese were shocked by Qing China's defeat by British and Russian imperialists right in front of their doorsteps. And resolved to modernize their nation.

    Meiji leaders borrowed the slogan from Chinese Warring States period-- 富国強兵 ふこくきょうへい "Enrich the Country, Strengthen the Armed Forces".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukoku_kyōhei

    That culminated in defeating China in 1895, and Russia in 1905.

    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61yJCFUdUaL.jpg

    Replies: @Torna atrás

    A friend of mine explained the Japanese view of WW2, that they were the victims. I found this difficult to understand, until I went to see a Japanese film about WW2. I was shocked. “There they were having a jolly time doing the kabuki, tea ceremonies, plays and Shinto whatever. SUDDENLY they get Nuked!” No explanation as to why or what for – it was like a Monty Python sketch.

  299. @MEH 0910
    @Jack D


    Even if it was true it would not justify a military invasion of a sovereign country anymore than wearing a tight dress justifies rape.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/cambridge-fires-cofnas-for-mentioning-racial-gaps-in-iq/#comment-6527410

    Jack D says:
    April 20, 2024 at 8:09 pm GMT
    [...]
    I “should” be able to walk the streets of North Philly at 3AM unmolested. What “should” be and what actually is are two different things.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Right but this doesn’t mean that the people who attack you at 3AM should get off scott free or are even praiseworthy. No one praises muggers and rapists but some of the Men of Unz praise Putin. Even if we baited him (I don’t think we did) then he was not obligated to take the bait.

    •�Replies: @deep anonymous
    @Jack D

    It's more accurate to say that the US and NATO have threatened Russia, not merely "baited" them. One of the most disastrous (and bipartisan) foreign policy fiascoes of the US was not disbanding NATO after the end of the Cold War.

    Replies: @HA
    , @Colin Wright
    @Jack D


    '...Even if we baited him (I don’t think we did) then he was not obligated to take the bait.'
    When all is said and done, I think he was obliged to take the bait. I also think we were counting on that.

    To be virtuous is laudable. To not be virtuous is usual. But to engage in cynical provocations and then pretend to be virtuous -- that's truly contemptible.
  300. @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    I didn’t say the Russians did it, which is highly unlikely given that it was their pipeline.

    I’ve seen a theory that the Ukrainians did it. A theory, not proof. But at least they had a motive, making it a plausible theory.

    There is zero evidence that the US was involved.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright

    I didn’t say the Russians did it, which is highly unlikely given that it was their pipeline.

    I’ve seen a theory that the Ukrainians did it. A theory, not proof. But at least they had a motive, making it a plausible theory.

    The ever-cynical follow-the-money money would be on the Qataris. They don’t have the oil necessary to keep up with their Gulf neighbor Joneses. But they’re the kings sultans of LNG.

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Reg Cæsar

    Re: Nordstream Pipeline

    Maybe someday we’ll know. Maybe not in my lifetime though.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon
  301. @Jack D
    @MEH 0910

    Right but this doesn't mean that the people who attack you at 3AM should get off scott free or are even praiseworthy. No one praises muggers and rapists but some of the Men of Unz praise Putin. Even if we baited him (I don't think we did) then he was not obligated to take the bait.

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @Colin Wright

    It’s more accurate to say that the US and NATO have threatened Russia, not merely “baited” them. One of the most disastrous (and bipartisan) foreign policy fiascoes of the US was not disbanding NATO after the end of the Cold War.

    •�Agree: J.Ross
    •�Replies: @HA
    @deep anonymous

    "It’s more accurate to say that the US and NATO have threatened Russia,..".

    He already covered that. A skirt that goes above the knees may seem like an insult to you, but it's not an invitation to be raped.

    You're giving us another round of "I take it as a threat to my masculinity when my ex dares to go out with friends I didn't choose for her, and chow down on pastries that I didn't buy her, and because I loved her so much, well,... I just had to rape her and try to murder her. In my culture, it is considered the manly thing to do."

    Even if that last sentence is correct, then in the words of General Napier, we have customs in our culture, too, that need to be respected, and that call for stiff pushback whenever some sad pathetic loser tries a lame defense like that.
  302. The Sailer Strategy endorsed by mainstream conservative radio host Steve Deace. Amazin’

  303. @Corvinus
    @Colin Wright

    “It’s why I think Jim Crow really was the most humane, practicable solution going.”

    I sometimes think you make these types of statements as sarcasm. But if not, then you are remarkably foolish.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Colin Wright

    I sometimes think you make these types of statements as sarcasm. But if not, then you are remarkably foolish.

    You’re mistaken on both counts.

    Jim Crow worked. Blacks caused relatively little trouble, and as black colleges, a black middle class, black baseball, black churches, and black music demonstrate, developed a relatively successful community life of their own.

    Compare and contrast to now. Explain to me how now is so much better.

    •�Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Colin Wright

    How'd white people in the South do during Jim Crow? They were hugely prosperous, right?

    What? They lagged economically far behind whites in states without Jim Crow?

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Mike Tre, @Anonymous
    , @Corvinus
    @Colin Wright

    “Jim Crow worked.”

    According to Who/Whom? Again, the Plessy ruling stated “separate but equal”. In theory, that sounds wonderful. In reality, it was separate and unequal. Mountains of photographic and sociological evidence confirms it.

    “Blacks caused relatively little trouble, and as black colleges, a black middle class, black baseball, black churches, and black music demonstrate, developed a relatively successful community life of their own.”

    We still have that now.

    “Compare and contrast to now. Explain to me how now is so much better.”

    Equal protection under the law, as intended by the 14th Amendment.

    I live in a mixed neighborhood. We get along swell.

    Replies: @Curle, @James B. Shearer
  304. HA says:
    @epebble
    @HA

    Well, within 24 hours, he reloaded the gun, aimed directly at foot and took a perfect shot:

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/31/us/harris-trump-election

    I am now starting to believe he is secretly planning to throw the election to Harris. This was obviously a simple question where he could have brushed aside the DEI and said her policies are not good for America. Instead, he carefully picked up the doo-doo and flung it into his mouth.

    Could this be the point when he lost the election?

    Like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQNVICr9nMo

    Almost makes one pine for responses like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zicGxU5MfwE

    Replies: @HA

    “Instead, he carefully picked up the doo-doo and flung it into his mouth.”

    To his base, I think that just makes him more lovable. Since it involves some off-color language, I’ll put the illustrative link below the MORE tag.

    Has anyone mentioned yet that the Democrats have taken to calling this kind of behavior “weird”? Agree or disagree, I see it as another variation of the “He tells it like it is” approach to winning over the electorate. Next they’ll be hosting BRING YOUR hooker who reminds you of your DAUGHTER TO WORK” events.

    In any case, I doubt any of it is moving the needle much, but I guess it’s up to the independents and undecided to determine, and they may well see it differently. As I recall, there were numerous consolatory articles a few weeks ago that claimed that Trump was experiencing absolutely no post-shooting boost in the polls.

    I suspect some of those polls were taken before the shot was even fired, and fortified with a large dose of copium. But now, I think you’re right and even he is more worried — and that’s despite people like Silver telling him the electorate count is still running in his favor. But I also think both candidates will have any number of October surprises to deal with, and maybe even a few earlier ones.

    [MORE]

  305. @Curle
    @Colin Wright


    Trump or the Republicans could take any stance on abortion at all; the Times readers would still vote Democrat.
    Agree. Crime and economic collapse seem to be the only things that move them if the history of the mid-‘70s to ‘80s provides any clues. And, by NYT readers I’m thinking of yuppies living in expensive neighborhoods where they are protected by real estate prices from living next door to non-yuppies and the police or demographics keep crime mostly under control.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    …And, by NYT readers I’m thinking of yuppies living in expensive neighborhoods where they are protected by real estate prices from living next door to non-yuppies and the police or demographics keep crime mostly under control.

    Indeed. My daughter lives in a neighborhood that was about average for Richmond, California: vagrants everywhere, illegals living in their cars everywhere — and heavy black crime. A shadetree mechanic who lived across the street from her was murdered by an unhappy customer.

    So she drove to school at Cal Berkeley, and her route took her through the (affluent) Berkeley Hills. No vagrants, no illegals, and no black crime. The endless ‘Black Lives Matter’ and ‘No person is illegal’ signs used to drive her wild.

  306. @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    I didn’t say the Russians did it, which is highly unlikely given that it was their pipeline.

    I’ve seen a theory that the Ukrainians did it. A theory, not proof. But at least they had a motive, making it a plausible theory.

    There is zero evidence that the US was involved.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright

    ‘…I’ve seen a theory that the Ukrainians did it. A theory, not proof. But at least they had a motive, making it a plausible theory.

    There is zero evidence that the US was involved.’

    The Ukraine snuck right by us, and blew up an undersea pipeline, without our knowledge, permission, or assistance?

    Uh huh. And I’ve got Starlink in my house. Elon Musk had nothing to do with it. I just built the receiver, etc in my spare time.

  307. HA says:
    @Curle
    @HA


    He was very confident the Democrats would never get rid of Sleepy Joe, and it’s almost certain he wouldn’t have gone with Vance if he knew Harris was the main ticket.
    From “[y]es I think he will be the nominee” you came up with all of the above? Which of your other thoughts and ideas do you want to project onto Trump?

    Replies: @HA

    “From “[y]es I think he will be the nominee” you came up with all of the above?”

    I can only link one article at a time. It doesn’t mean there isn’t plenty more where that came from, it just means you’ll have to stop being a lazy ass and do some research for yourself now and again.

    Don’t go, Joe: flummoxed Trump campaign wants Biden to stay in race…

    “He’s got an ego and he doesn’t want to quit,” Trump said.

    Donald Trump Wants Joe Biden to Stay in the Race

    [paywall] Trump advisers hope Biden stays in race,

    Trump predicts Biden will stay in presidential race

    A few of those are redundant, and refer to the same call with Hannity, but seriously, how hard is it to type “Trump wanted biden to stay in” into a search engine? I even typoed the word ‘wanted’ it the first time I tried, and still managed to get all the above.

  308. @Anonymous
    Really poor choice of mug shots. A lot of the faces actually look sympathetic, not criminal or menacing.

    Replies: @Cindy, @QCIC, @Gandydancer, @Jay Fink

    Yeah they look more cleancut and harmless than a random group of men you would see at Walmart.

  309. @Reg Cæsar
    @Frau Katze


    I didn’t say the Russians did it, which is highly unlikely given that it was their pipeline.

    I’ve seen a theory that the Ukrainians did it. A theory, not proof. But at least they had a motive, making it a plausible theory.


    The ever-cynical follow-the-money money would be on the Qataris. They don't have the oil necessary to keep up with their Gulf neighbor Joneses. But they're the kings sultans of LNG.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    Re: Nordstream Pipeline

    Maybe someday we’ll know. Maybe not in my lifetime though.

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    'Re: Nordstream Pipeline

    Maybe someday we’ll know. Maybe not in my lifetime though.'
    You can 'not know' for as long as you need to. Comically, it's a bit like the Holocaust; if you find it necessary to be unsure, you will be unsure.

    Replies: @Frau Katze
    , @Mr. Anon
    @Frau Katze


    Re: Nordstream Pipeline

    Maybe someday we’ll know. Maybe not in my lifetime though.
    Ask Joe Biden:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSPfXLPUJHM
  310. jsm says:
    @Jonathan Mason
    @anonymous

    I am about as agnostic as anyone can be on abortion.

    I'm not in favor of it, but I can understand that there are situations where women desperately want to avoid continuing a pregnancy.

    However I don't think you've got it right when you say that continuing pregnancy to term is medically safer than having an abortion.

    This might be applicable in the case of late stage abortions where abnormalities have been discovered, but it is not the case with first trimester abortions which are much safer than continued pregnancies.

    A reasonable law would be to allow first trimester abortions at will, but later abortions should have to be approved by something equivalent to a mental health tribunal but which would be a panel consisting of at least two doctors qualified in ob/gyn and one judge, who were not personally involved in the case.

    In cases of emergency abortions to save the life of the woman the panel would have to consider them retrospectively.

    Replies: @jsm

    However I don’t think you’ve got it right when you say that continuing pregnancy to term is medically safer than having an abortion.

    It depends. For instance, having an abortion causes a risk of something called Asherman’s Syndrome where the raw uterine borders form scar tissue and scar the uterus shut, causing anything from mild to total infertility OR, at the birth of the next child increased risk of something called placenta accreta, which can go undiagnosed until post-birth hemorrage because placenta won’t let go, placing Mother’s life in danger.

    And, the dangers of post-abortion infection vs. childbed fever, it depends on the person and chances cannot be predicted before occurrence.

    In some cases, abortion clearly IS the safer choice. For instance, if mother is suffering from something called Hyperemesis Gravidarum, where the pregnancy nausea is so severe that she is literally starving to death from inability to eat or drink. And IVs can only do so much. Sometimes abortion is the only option.

  311. HA says:
    @deep anonymous
    @Jack D

    It's more accurate to say that the US and NATO have threatened Russia, not merely "baited" them. One of the most disastrous (and bipartisan) foreign policy fiascoes of the US was not disbanding NATO after the end of the Cold War.

    Replies: @HA

    “It’s more accurate to say that the US and NATO have threatened Russia,..”.

    He already covered that. A skirt that goes above the knees may seem like an insult to you, but it’s not an invitation to be raped.

    You’re giving us another round of “I take it as a threat to my masculinity when my ex dares to go out with friends I didn’t choose for her, and chow down on pastries that I didn’t buy her, and because I loved her so much, well,… I just had to rape her and try to murder her. In my culture, it is considered the manly thing to do.”

    Even if that last sentence is correct, then in the words of General Napier, we have customs in our culture, too, that need to be respected, and that call for stiff pushback whenever some sad pathetic loser tries a lame defense like that.

  312. @Corvinus
    @Colin Wright

    “It’s why I think Jim Crow really was the most humane, practicable solution going.”

    I sometimes think you make these types of statements as sarcasm. But if not, then you are remarkably foolish.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Colin Wright

    This

    https://www.unz.com/article/june-2024-black-on-white-homicide-report/

    is what happens in this country, EVERY *SINGLE* DAY, MORON,

    when the wild animals stop fearing the humans.

    Look at the vacant, hollow eyes of the perps. Then tell me sociology is to blame.

    I want you to go to every single one of these funerals, and yammer on to the families about Emmett Till. I’m sure they’ll feel appropriately guilty.

  313. @Jack D
    @Colin Wright


    What you omit is that we chose to provoke that invasion.
    It's omitted because it is a lie. Even if it was true it would not justify a military invasion of a sovereign country anymore than wearing a tight dress justifies rape.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Wins the internet for Retarded Analogy of the Week. Also wins the internet for the “I Don’t Understand What’s Actually Going On” comment of the month.

    Have you ever won a single legal case, in your career?

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    'Have you ever won a single legal case, in your career?'
    I think JackD thinks like a modern lawyer thinks -- even though he isn't in a courtroom. Truth isn't his concern; he just puts up the best argument he can for whatever position he chooses to hold.

    Apparently, it never occurs to him that there is anything unethical about that. It would help if he would look up 'disingenuous.' It would also help if he would consider the moral complexion of at least one of the entities he chooses to defend. Even a lawyer can decline to take a case.

    Replies: @deep anonymous
  314. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Frau Katze

    Translation: "Hi, I have no idea how the world works."

    Welcome to Cafe Corvinus! Table for one?

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Sam Malone

    Russia invaded Ukraine. The Ukrainians are fighting back.

    Let’s all take a moment to remember this is also, as far as I’ve ever seen, the beginning and end of Steve’s views on this topic, or rather it’s the deliberately simplistic reasoning he’s adopted as his public posture.

    “The bad people are doing bad things, purely because they’re bad, and shucks, I just don’t like bad stuff, so I’ll not admit anything deeper could be going on involving unjust and unwise behavior by my country’s foreign policy elite, and instead just repeat whatever jingoistic propaganda is fed to me from the same uniparty establishment I admit to mistrusting on any number of demographic / domestic issues.”

    Steve’s really smart, and George W. Bush was really dumb, but this line isn’t too far away from Bush’s position after September 11 that essentially we were hit only because “they hate us because we’re free”.

    You’d think Steve would be a little embarrassed to maintain such a position on such a crucial matter in world affairs, but maybe he doesn’t have the bandwidth to get involved in every issue. And there’s a lot of hay to be made in the bad-black-driving-statistics and black-histrionics-over-their-hair world. Priorities, priorities.

    •�Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Sam Malone

    Agree with much of the above, but this is just for entertainment purposes....

    "Steve’s really smart, and George W. Bush was really dumb,"

    I believe I have on several occasions advised, that if you want to know what's actually going on somewhere, make friends with a couple of smart strippers in a high-end "Gentlemen's Club," and they have a tendency to know all the gossip, and the word on the street, and what all the powerful-but-drunk businessmen and politicians know, and will gabble about at will to some dumb girl who they think isn't really listening, while they think they are relaxing.

    Back in the day in Austin TX, which is of course the capital of Texas and therefore a useful font of Texas inside knowledge... the general understanding of the smarter strippers was, "George W. Bush used to be kind of an actually fairly smart guy, not a genius, but also not a retard... but then he snorted a LOT of blow, and drank a LOT of alcohol, and kind of turned his brain into chunky soup. Which made him totally vulnerable, due to his name and his connections and his lack of circumspection, to the machinations of You Know Who."
  315. @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    Putin swiped Crimea back in the Obama administration. Who let him get away with it.

    Then he got more ambitious. I’ve read that something Biden said led him to think he could get away with seizing the whole Ukraine. (Not sure if this is true or not).

    But he was wrong if that’s what he thought.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “…Who let him get away with it.”

    He had no reasonable alternative.

  316. @Frau Katze
    @Reg Cæsar

    Re: Nordstream Pipeline

    Maybe someday we’ll know. Maybe not in my lifetime though.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon

    ‘Re: Nordstream Pipeline

    Maybe someday we’ll know. Maybe not in my lifetime though.’

    You can ‘not know’ for as long as you need to. Comically, it’s a bit like the Holocaust; if you find it necessary to be unsure, you will be unsure.

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    I genuinely don’t know who did the Nordstream Pipeline. That’s because I don’t want to simply decide based on the vague “evidence” I see in these comments. Which is no evidence at all.

    Plenty of evidence for the Holocaust in total contrast.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @The Germ Theory of Disease
  317. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Colin Wright

    "You don’t want a court where no one remembers anything earlier than the Clinton years."

    I'd be satisfied with a court that actually remembers 1787-89.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    “You don’t want a court where no one remembers anything earlier than the Clinton years.”

    I’d be satisfied with a court that actually remembers 1787-89.

    More realistically, however much we may give lip service to respecting the exact intent and wording of the Constitution et al, it’s not really practical to rely on the Second Amendment to insist that Elon Musk can build and sell atomic bombs to whoever would like one, etc. Probably good to obstinately cling to the original text as long as it’s not literally suicidal, but…

    I do think, though, that life terms effectively help the Supreme Court to be a brake on the momentary enthusiasms and hysteria of the rest of the political system. We do want people who can remember when ‘transgender’ people simply didn’t exist, when sexually mutilating children wasn’t a standard medical procedure, when people ordinarily spanked errant children, etc. Not that they should remain stuck in the past, but they should at least remember what the past was — be able to distinguish eternal verities from this year’s fad.

    I’ll also point out that unlike as is the case with the President, there are nine justices. If one goes a bit potty in his dotage yet refuses to step down, he’ll just get overruled 8-1. The world won’t come to an end.

  318. @AceDeuce

    Seems perfectly reasonable, but by 1992 during the first wave of Wokeness, the Media Megaphone had converted this Pulitzer Prize-winning story about Dukakis’s screw-up into proof of Bush’s racism
    Wasn't no Interweb. No Elon Musk's Twatter 2.0 (AKA "X"), or anything else.

    No smartphones to take pictures/video with.

    No cop bodycams (which didn't work out the way libs thought-I was going to add "or blacks thought", but they don't think.)

    Barely any conservative media. Limbaugh had just begun going national. There's much I never liked, about him, from the get go (disappointed is more like it), but he needs to be in the Redpill Hall of Fame nevertheless. He was the tricycle that many clueless Whites learned to ride to go and get half a clue.

    Most under-30 Whites in 1992, and many under 40s were suburban snowflakes. Their evil racist parents/grandparents fled the cities, so their ungrateful, clueless spawn could have a good life.

    Blacks stayed the same. No big trick. What's 32 years? They haven't changed in thousands of years. Now they're in every state, city, town, 'burb, workplace, school, etc. working their usual magic. No escape; no respite. People are finally waking up. A little. Way too late.

    Poor/working class Boomers were the last ones that had to deal with negroes in close proximity. No one cared. I know. I was one.

    Any of you call a black the dreaded "N-word" to his face? I have. A few times.

    Any of you fight, and both punch and get punched by a black? I have. A few times.

    Had heated arguments with blacks? I have. Many.

    Any of you get violently mugged by a black? I was, at 14.

    Be in a class in school that was mostly black? I have. Work in a majority black workplace? I did. Have family/friends/neighbors victimized by blacks? I have. Live with a black? I did-not by choice, both in and out of the military.

    Replies: @fredyetagain aka superhonky, @anonymous, @Colin Wright

    ‘…Any of you call a black the dreaded “N-word” to his face? I have. A few times.

    Any of you fight, and both punch and get punched by a black? I have. A few times.

    Had heated arguments with blacks? I have. Many.

    Any of you get violently mugged by a black? I was, at 14.

    Be in a class in school that was mostly black? I have. Work in a majority black workplace? I did. Have family/friends/neighbors victimized by blacks? I have. Live with a black? I did-not by choice, both in and out of the military.’

    In my case, close enough.

  319. @Corvinus
    @Colin Wright

    “It’s why I think Jim Crow really was the most humane, practicable solution going.”

    I sometimes think you make these types of statements as sarcasm. But if not, then you are remarkably foolish.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Colin Wright

    ‘…I sometimes think you make these types of statements as sarcasm. But if not, then you are remarkably foolish.’

    You’re mistaken on both counts.

  320. @Jack D
    @MEH 0910

    Right but this doesn't mean that the people who attack you at 3AM should get off scott free or are even praiseworthy. No one praises muggers and rapists but some of the Men of Unz praise Putin. Even if we baited him (I don't think we did) then he was not obligated to take the bait.

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @Colin Wright

    ‘…Even if we baited him (I don’t think we did) then he was not obligated to take the bait.’

    When all is said and done, I think he was obliged to take the bait. I also think we were counting on that.

    To be virtuous is laudable. To not be virtuous is usual. But to engage in cynical provocations and then pretend to be virtuous — that’s truly contemptible.

  321. @Wokechoke
    @kaganovitch

    Wasn’t she joking though?

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    Wasn’t [Pauline Kael] joking though?

    No. It was an earlier version of Hilary Clinton’s “deplorables” quote, not humor:

    I live in a rather special world. I only know one person who voted for Nixon. Where they are I don’t know. They’re outside my ken. But sometimes when I’m in a theater I can feel them.

    https://www.commentary.org/john-podhoretz/the-actual-pauline-kael-quote%E2%80%94not-as-bad-and-worse/

  322. @mel belli
    @Altai4

    You want to know about Oakland in the '70s? In 1976 I got a $50 jaywalking ticket from a cycle cop at 19th & Broadway at 6:00 a.m. on a Saturday.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    In 1976 I got a $50 jaywalking ticket from a cycle cop at 19th & Broadway at 6:00 a.m. on a Saturday.

    Nothing changes. In the 2000’s I came into Oakland on BART and met my future wife and her friend who took me the rest of the way to Yoshi’s. We were chased down by a cop car, pulled over, and the friend given a ticket for stopping in a crosswalk to pick me up. It had been a very brief stop. I never patronized that Oakland business again.

  323. @QCIC
    @Anonymous

    I agree, the people in the mugshots look a bit like actors. I'm not suggesting they are, but the choice of faces is interesting.

    If this is a real ad, has it been pulled yet?

    It seems too on the nose to stand, so maybe it is a trial balloon? Or will they follow up and emphasize the victims were black as well?

    Is there a subtle and potent subtext that Kamala is black and her victims will be black voters and citizens?

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    Is there a subtle and potent subtext that Kamala is black and her victims will be black voters and citizens?

    With whom would THAT be “potent”. -I-, and I suspect most voters, care that Kamala’s victims might include them and people like them, and not particularly POCs. People who talk about “it’s Blacks who suffer most” smell to me like Democrats.

    •�Replies: @deep anonymous
    @Gandydancer

    "People who talk about “it’s Blacks who suffer most” smell to me like Democrats."

    I'm not so sure about that. They smell to me like a certain breed of pandering Republicans who are afraid to say in public how much public policy harms Whites, and so they say things like, "it's Blacks! who suffer most" so that they can appear respectable to urban elites.

    Replies: @Gandydancer
  324. @Curle
    @Anonymous


    The American right-wing and media megaphone each have an ethnic skew
    Then call it out as the Gentiles versus the Jews rather than acting ambiguous about whether these are ethnic dominated institutions conforming their behaviors to ethnic interests. A lot of people won’t and don’t get subtlety. Belloc said it or suggested it years ago in his book The Jews that the Tribe benefit from hiding their ethnocentrism. Allowing that state of affairs to continue is not in the best interest of Gentiles and it buries the real question raised by all these wars which is who benefits? At the end of the day what did WW1 and WW2 get my grandfather or any other southern boy? What does the state of Israel mean to the US?

    I’d gladly have seen this country stay out of both wars if it had impeded the empowerment of the open borders crowd.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    The American right-wing and media megaphone each have an ethnic skew

    Then call it out as the Gentiles versus the Jews rather than acting ambiguous about whether these are ethnic dominated institutions conforming their behaviors to ethnic interests.

    The American right wing vs American leftt wing is a Gentile vs Jew conflict only in the warped minds of deranged anti-Semites like you.

    I’d gladly have seen this country stay out of both wars if it had impeded the empowerment of the open borders crowd.

    That was of course not what was the subject of either conflict. Immigration remained considerably restricted until the 1960s or so and got wildly out of control considerably later than that.

  325. @Anonymous
    @Curle

    I don't get your point. Naziism was a German/Nordic supremacist ideology: obviously it has "ethnic identification." Fascism is context-dependent. The American right-wing and media megaphone each have an ethnic skew...which is unsurprising, because so does everything else that matters. What are you advocating exactly?

    Replies: @Curle, @Gandydancer

    The American right-wing and media megaphone each have an ethnic skew…which is unsurprising, because so does everything else that matters. What are you advocating exactly?

    Curle is advocating for a Final Solution to the problem of the American Jew. Are you seriously in doubt about this?

  326. @Colin Wright
    @Corvinus


    I sometimes think you make these types of statements as sarcasm. But if not, then you are remarkably foolish.
    You're mistaken on both counts.

    Jim Crow worked. Blacks caused relatively little trouble, and as black colleges, a black middle class, black baseball, black churches, and black music demonstrate, developed a relatively successful community life of their own.

    Compare and contrast to now. Explain to me how now is so much better.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corvinus

    How’d white people in the South do during Jim Crow? They were hugely prosperous, right?

    What? They lagged economically far behind whites in states without Jim Crow?

    •�Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Steve Sailer

    The South is a gigantic failure all unto itself; whether it would have failed better with Blacks and Whites failing together or apart, is the topic of a sci-fi novel that nobody would read.

    There's all kinds of reasons to speculate about Southern backwardness. I have my own theories, which are non-scientific, and I invite any and all to tear them apart...

    -- It's just the damn weather. Who could live in that much heat and humidity? Plus, never having to dress or prepare for snowstorms probably stifles your brain in some way.

    -- It's the churches. The South is full of crackpot podunk rinky-dink churches, spouting whatever Protestant nonsense the local retards want to hear. In the north, the Catholics, the Jews, the Methodists, the Lutherans, the Episcopals, the Presbyterians all had a formalized magisterium and a scholarly tradition and a hermeneutics to back them up and teach from recognized authority. Not some Baptist cretin yawping about anything in the world he felt like. As a Catholic kid, I remember being taken one time on an "inter-faith" field trip to visit a Protestant church, and even as a kid I felt sorry for them and thought, Wow, these people are retarded. Of course now all the churches are woke-destroyed, I'm just talking about past historical fabric.

    -- It's the cooking. It's very tasty but it probably rots your brain as well as your arteries. Also the long history of pellagra and other forms of malnutrition prolly left its mark.

    -- It's the sort-of semi-medieval code of courtesy and politesse. Very charming, to be sure, but perhaps locked emotionally and intellectually into a prior era.

    -- It's plain old Northern cultural chauvinism: Robert Penn Warren is a great poet, so is James Dickey, but you won't get the Yankees to admit that.

    -- It's the loss of the old aristocracy that gave us Jefferson and Washington and so on.

    Eh, who knows? But I really really doubt that Jim Crow, whatever else you might like to say about it, caused much of a developmental lag.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @rebel yell, @mc23
    , @Mike Tre
    @Steve Sailer

    So when Jim Crow was abolished the Southern economy got better? Why?

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Curle, @AnotherDad
    , @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer


    How’d white people in the South do during Jim Crow? They were hugely prosperous, right?
    Whites were better off with segregation than without it.

    What? They lagged economically far behind whites in states without Jim Crow?
    Millions of Whites in the North fled from blacks, abandoning formerly White schools, communities, cities, in order to stay segregated from blacks. Do you claim to know better than those Whites did what was good for them?

    Did you tell your in-laws they were stupid for moving away from Chicago? Because everyone knows that blacks are economic gold. They really just left a $100 bill lying there on the sidewalk, didn’t they Sailer?
  327. @Joe Stalin

    But what about that other election?
    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1818189980922970196
    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1818187470925676989
    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1818230953984020805
    https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1818154936196063602
    https://twitter.com/MorosKostas/status/1817779701492113453

    Replies: @Ron Mexico, @Gandydancer

    Protesters are throwing Molotov cocktails at a building in which Maduro’s thugs, the so-called Colectivos are holed up in

    Looks rather more like Molotov cocktails are being thrown off of a building into the street. Where are snipers when you need them?

  328. @Gandydancer
    @QCIC


    Is there a subtle and potent subtext that Kamala is black and her victims will be black voters and citizens?
    With whom would THAT be "potent". -I-, and I suspect most voters, care that Kamala's victims might include them and people like them, and not particularly POCs. People who talk about "it's Blacks who suffer most" smell to me like Democrats.

    Replies: @deep anonymous

    “People who talk about “it’s Blacks who suffer most” smell to me like Democrats.”

    I’m not so sure about that. They smell to me like a certain breed of pandering Republicans who are afraid to say in public how much public policy harms Whites, and so they say things like, “it’s Blacks! who suffer most” so that they can appear respectable to urban elites.

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @deep anonymous


    ...they say things like, “it’s Blacks! who suffer most” so that they can appear respectable to urban elites.
    OK, they give off the ratty odor OF Democrats.

    Replies: @deep anonymous
  329. @Frau Katze
    @fnn


    But the Democrats can offer the promise of nuclear war with Russia…
    Economic sanctions are not nuclear war.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @J.Ross, @Mr. Anon, @Gandydancer

    Economic sanctions are not nuclear war.

    Economic sanctions didn’t work. Now NATO is edging towards the next step.

    PARIS (AP) — French President Emmanuel Macron appeared isolated on the European stage this week after saying the possibility of Western troops being sent to Ukraine could not be ruled out, a comment that prompted an outcry from other leaders.

    French officials later sought to clarify Macron’s remarks and tamp down the backlash, while insisting on the need to send a clear signal to Russia that it cannot win in Ukraine.

    The Kremlin warned that if NATO sends combat troops, a direct conflict between the alliance and Russia would be inevitable. Russian President Vladimir Putin said such a move would risk a global nuclear conflict.

    If Ukraine cannot defeat Russia (and it can’t) how else is NATO going to stop Russia from winning in Ukraine without taking further steps in the direction of nuclear war? Yes, “other leaders” still demur, but the progression has been going in one direction for all that.

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Gandydancer

    Since his comment “promoted outcry” I think it’s unlikely that anything will actually be done. Even if Russia eventually succeeds.

    Replies: @Gandydancer
  330. @YetAnotherAnon
    @YetAnotherAnon

    UK police chief:

    "We have already said that the person arrested was born in the UK and speculation helps nobody at this time."

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    UK police chief:

    “We have already said that the person arrested was born in the UK and speculation helps nobody at this time.”

    Speaking of helping nobody, if you don’t want speculation how about telling us the truth?

    This kind of hiding of the truth is of course on much larger display in the US currently in the Feds hiding the details of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump without, mostly, any shadow of justification for doing so.

    And of course the fact that the child murderer in the UK is the spawn of “asylum seekers” begs the question of whether that actually makes him a Brit. It doesn’t, of course. His rootlessness is a personal tragedy, but why that is a problem that actual Brits ought to have to sacrifice in order to solve is non-obvious.

  331. @Steve Sailer
    @Colin Wright

    How'd white people in the South do during Jim Crow? They were hugely prosperous, right?

    What? They lagged economically far behind whites in states without Jim Crow?

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Mike Tre, @Anonymous

    The South is a gigantic failure all unto itself; whether it would have failed better with Blacks and Whites failing together or apart, is the topic of a sci-fi novel that nobody would read.

    There’s all kinds of reasons to speculate about Southern backwardness. I have my own theories, which are non-scientific, and I invite any and all to tear them apart…

    — It’s just the damn weather. Who could live in that much heat and humidity? Plus, never having to dress or prepare for snowstorms probably stifles your brain in some way.

    — It’s the churches. The South is full of crackpot podunk rinky-dink churches, spouting whatever Protestant nonsense the local retards want to hear. In the north, the Catholics, the Jews, the Methodists, the Lutherans, the Episcopals, the Presbyterians all had a formalized magisterium and a scholarly tradition and a hermeneutics to back them up and teach from recognized authority. Not some Baptist cretin yawping about anything in the world he felt like. As a Catholic kid, I remember being taken one time on an “inter-faith” field trip to visit a Protestant church, and even as a kid I felt sorry for them and thought, Wow, these people are retarded. Of course now all the churches are woke-destroyed, I’m just talking about past historical fabric.

    — It’s the cooking. It’s very tasty but it probably rots your brain as well as your arteries. Also the long history of pellagra and other forms of malnutrition prolly left its mark.

    — It’s the sort-of semi-medieval code of courtesy and politesse. Very charming, to be sure, but perhaps locked emotionally and intellectually into a prior era.

    — It’s plain old Northern cultural chauvinism: Robert Penn Warren is a great poet, so is James Dickey, but you won’t get the Yankees to admit that.

    — It’s the loss of the old aristocracy that gave us Jefferson and Washington and so on.

    Eh, who knows? But I really really doubt that Jim Crow, whatever else you might like to say about it, caused much of a developmental lag.

    •�Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    One great thing about the South that nobody realizes, is that New Orleans is the birthplace of hyper-modern chess: the great Franco-Irish Southern weirdo (and I DO mean weirdo) Paul Morphy revolutionized chess in ways that are still trying to be understood. His lightning-fast games are still the craziest thing in town: if you want to study war theory, forget Sun Tzu, get with your Morphy.

    I always wanted to see a movie or a play about an imaginary meeting between the reserved, eccentric, semi-autistic Morphy (who changed his clothes three times a day and got a haircut twice a week) and the vivacious free-spirited Katherine O'Flaherty/Kate Chopin, authoress of "The Awakening" and one of the early proto-feminist writers; her short stories are a marvel. She was another Franco-Irish socialite from Saint Louis (back when it was called San' Louee) who lived in Nawlins the same time as Morphy, they almost certainly crossed paths -- always wondered what these two crackpots might have said to one another.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    , @rebel yell
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    It's been pointed out that the South stayed a frontier a lot longer than the North due to terrain. The lowlands and swamps impeded transportation and development. This also prolonged the more violent honor culture that goes along with a frontier herder way of life. Honor cultures may be a step lower in IQ, since in these societies brawn wins out over brains more often. The south was colonized by a mix of Europeans with more Scots-Irish, who themselves were border/herder/honor culture people, and so may have started out with a more violent, lower IQ people.
    Still the south is not a massive failure. It's always been and still is a great place to live, and has produced its share of artists and scientists, including Edwin O Wilson.
    Losing the Civil War didn't help. Right or wrong, it's never good to lose a war. The Germans can attest to this. In the 19th and first half of the 20th century Germany was an economic and cultural powerhouse. Just look at them now, after their defeat.

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @OilcanFloyd
    , @mc23
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I believe Dan Rather, an old Texas boy, said the growth of Texas was unimaginable with out air conditioning.
  332. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Steve Sailer

    The South is a gigantic failure all unto itself; whether it would have failed better with Blacks and Whites failing together or apart, is the topic of a sci-fi novel that nobody would read.

    There's all kinds of reasons to speculate about Southern backwardness. I have my own theories, which are non-scientific, and I invite any and all to tear them apart...

    -- It's just the damn weather. Who could live in that much heat and humidity? Plus, never having to dress or prepare for snowstorms probably stifles your brain in some way.

    -- It's the churches. The South is full of crackpot podunk rinky-dink churches, spouting whatever Protestant nonsense the local retards want to hear. In the north, the Catholics, the Jews, the Methodists, the Lutherans, the Episcopals, the Presbyterians all had a formalized magisterium and a scholarly tradition and a hermeneutics to back them up and teach from recognized authority. Not some Baptist cretin yawping about anything in the world he felt like. As a Catholic kid, I remember being taken one time on an "inter-faith" field trip to visit a Protestant church, and even as a kid I felt sorry for them and thought, Wow, these people are retarded. Of course now all the churches are woke-destroyed, I'm just talking about past historical fabric.

    -- It's the cooking. It's very tasty but it probably rots your brain as well as your arteries. Also the long history of pellagra and other forms of malnutrition prolly left its mark.

    -- It's the sort-of semi-medieval code of courtesy and politesse. Very charming, to be sure, but perhaps locked emotionally and intellectually into a prior era.

    -- It's plain old Northern cultural chauvinism: Robert Penn Warren is a great poet, so is James Dickey, but you won't get the Yankees to admit that.

    -- It's the loss of the old aristocracy that gave us Jefferson and Washington and so on.

    Eh, who knows? But I really really doubt that Jim Crow, whatever else you might like to say about it, caused much of a developmental lag.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @rebel yell, @mc23

    One great thing about the South that nobody realizes, is that New Orleans is the birthplace of hyper-modern chess: the great Franco-Irish Southern weirdo (and I DO mean weirdo) Paul Morphy revolutionized chess in ways that are still trying to be understood. His lightning-fast games are still the craziest thing in town: if you want to study war theory, forget Sun Tzu, get with your Morphy.

    I always wanted to see a movie or a play about an imaginary meeting between the reserved, eccentric, semi-autistic Morphy (who changed his clothes three times a day and got a haircut twice a week) and the vivacious free-spirited Katherine O’Flaherty/Kate Chopin, authoress of “The Awakening” and one of the early proto-feminist writers; her short stories are a marvel. She was another Franco-Irish socialite from Saint Louis (back when it was called San’ Louee) who lived in Nawlins the same time as Morphy, they almost certainly crossed paths — always wondered what these two crackpots might have said to one another.

    •�Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    For anyone who cares about such things, I humbly present.... the notorious Opera Game.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_Game

    Morphy defeats two (!! -- not one, but two!!) European aristocrats, while sitting in an opera box listening to either "Norma" or "The Barber of Seville," no one is quite sure which.

    In sixteen moves. Will you just look at that final mating pin.

    Robert E. Lee, step the f#ck aside.
  333. @Jonathan Mason
    @J.Ross

    Just trying to do the decent thing and comply with international treaties.

    In the UK many supposed asylum seekers have been accommodated in hotels rather than given tents on abandoned airfields.

    Of course you could argue that this also provides a massive subsidy to the hotel and catering industry, so some of the money spent by the government would come back in VAT.

    I don't think there is any deliberate plan to bankrupt the country by mollycoddling so-called asylum seekers, but obviously if any country takes on a significant percentage of its population as asylum seekers, then the standard of living for all will be lowered.

    Replies: @bomag, @Gordo, @Gandydancer

    Just trying to do the decent thing and comply with international treaties.

    Decent to whom? The British government ought to be first concerned to be decent to it;s own citizens, who ought not be burdened with taking care of bogus “asylum seekers” and their spawn, and if any international treaty requires them to do that then the decent thing to do is withdraw from it.

  334. @Colin Wright

    'This evening there has been rioting in Southport apparently targeted at a nearby mosque.

    It is not clear to me if the family from Rwanda living in a village close to Southport were Muslims. Maybe.'
    According to Wikipedia, only 2% of the population of Rwanda is Muslim. Unless there's something here I don't know, it's unreasonable to react by attacking the nearest mosque.

    It of course reflects my own biases, but I've long noticed that Europeans express their hostility towards immigrants by attacking Islam -- even though African blacks per se are far worse than Muslims per se. Europeans are frightened of being labelled racist.

    That's one fear they're going to need to get over if they want to survive.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    According to Wikipedia, only 2% of the population of Rwanda is Muslim. Unless there’s something here I don’t know, it’s unreasonable to react by attacking the nearest mosque.

    I believe there were bogus reports that the murderer had a different, Muslim, name. This is a downside of attempting to conceal his actual name. He appears instead, if The Liverpool Echo can be trusted to have gotten this right, to be from a Christian family.

    Neighbours have said the family are “heavily involved with the local church”, and they would often hear singing from their house, the Liverpool Echo reported.

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/crime/who-is-teenager-axel-rudakubana-charged-with-triple-murder-over-southport-stabbing-at-taylor-swift-themed-club-4725685

  335. @Cagey Beast
    @Jonathan Mason


    Apparently an English born, actually Welsh born if you want to be finicky
    Americans.

    This evening there has been rioting in Southport apparently targeted at a nearby mosque.
    https://twitter.com/BBCbreakingNewt/status/1818389786618478860

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    Where is the X-poster getting the “at the vigil for the 10 girls in Southport” bit? Or the machete? The murderer appears to be of Rwandan Christian origin, btw. Probably his parents should not have been let in, but connecting some random arrest of some Arab-looking guy is probably just a shit-stirring stupidity IMHO. As is believing everything you read just because it fits with your priors.

  336. @Colin Wright
    @Corvinus


    I sometimes think you make these types of statements as sarcasm. But if not, then you are remarkably foolish.
    You're mistaken on both counts.

    Jim Crow worked. Blacks caused relatively little trouble, and as black colleges, a black middle class, black baseball, black churches, and black music demonstrate, developed a relatively successful community life of their own.

    Compare and contrast to now. Explain to me how now is so much better.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Corvinus

    “Jim Crow worked.”

    According to Who/Whom? Again, the Plessy ruling stated “separate but equal”. In theory, that sounds wonderful. In reality, it was separate and unequal. Mountains of photographic and sociological evidence confirms it.

    “Blacks caused relatively little trouble, and as black colleges, a black middle class, black baseball, black churches, and black music demonstrate, developed a relatively successful community life of their own.”

    We still have that now.

    “Compare and contrast to now. Explain to me how now is so much better.”

    Equal protection under the law, as intended by the 14th Amendment.

    I live in a mixed neighborhood. We get along swell.

    •�Replies: @Curle
    @Corvinus


    I live in a mixed neighborhood. We get along swell.
    In Memphis per chance? Sending the kids to the Black schools? How’s that working out?

    Don’t sweat answering. In cities like Memphis there are almost no actual mixed race neighborhoods except on the extreme margins, 90-10. That sort of thing.

    Replies: @Corvinus
    , @James B. Shearer
    @Corvinus

    "I live in a mixed neighborhood. We get along swell."

    Whites and Asians?

    Replies: @Colin Wright
  337. @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    'Re: Nordstream Pipeline

    Maybe someday we’ll know. Maybe not in my lifetime though.'
    You can 'not know' for as long as you need to. Comically, it's a bit like the Holocaust; if you find it necessary to be unsure, you will be unsure.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    I genuinely don’t know who did the Nordstream Pipeline. That’s because I don’t want to simply decide based on the vague “evidence” I see in these comments. Which is no evidence at all.

    Plenty of evidence for the Holocaust in total contrast.

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    I genuinely don’t know who did the Nordstream Pipeline. That’s because I don’t want to simply decide based on the vague “evidence” I see in these comments. Which is no evidence at all.

    Plenty of evidence for the Holocaust in total contrast.
    There's sufficient evidence to at least surmise that we condoned the attack on the Nordstream pipeline. Who precisely actually did it hasn't been clearly established -- but that's not the critical point. It obviously wasn't the Russians -- the absurd assertions of our media notwithstanding. Therefore, it was someone on our side with the technological ability to do it and at least some confidence that if the US found out, we wouldn't squeal. I don't see why it matters much if it was us, some other NATO member, or even the Ukrainians who physically did it.

    It is like the Holocaust in that in both cases, claiming to 'genuinely not know' is based on a desire to not know rather than an actual appraisal of the evidence.
    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Frau Katze

    "Plenty of evidence for the Holocaust in total contrast."

    Which is precisely why it is prohibited by (((law))), and widely punished with serious prison time, to question or to seriously examine in good faith this supposed "evidence." Unlike ANY other "historical" event in "history". Wow, that makes for an air-tight trustworthy case.

    Hey I'm not a Holocaust crackpot, I have lots more important things to care about than how many Jews got stuffed into how many death-dirigibles or death-roller-coasters or electric dance-floors or whatever; but I do know why certain people get banned from the poker tables in Vegas and Atlantic City.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer
  338. @Gandydancer
    @Frau Katze


    Economic sanctions are not nuclear war.
    Economic sanctions didn't work. Now NATO is edging towards the next step.

    PARIS (AP) — French President Emmanuel Macron appeared isolated on the European stage this week after saying the possibility of Western troops being sent to Ukraine could not be ruled out, a comment that prompted an outcry from other leaders.

    French officials later sought to clarify Macron’s remarks and tamp down the backlash, while insisting on the need to send a clear signal to Russia that it cannot win in Ukraine.

    The Kremlin warned that if NATO sends combat troops, a direct conflict between the alliance and Russia would be inevitable. Russian President Vladimir Putin said such a move would risk a global nuclear conflict.
    If Ukraine cannot defeat Russia (and it can't) how else is NATO going to stop Russia from winning in Ukraine without taking further steps in the direction of nuclear war? Yes, "other leaders" still demur, but the progression has been going in one direction for all that.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    Since his comment “promoted outcry” I think it’s unlikely that anything will actually be done. Even if Russia eventually succeeds.

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @Frau Katze


    Since his comment “promoted outcry” I think it’s unlikely that anything will actually be done. Even if Russia eventually succeeds.
    I already answered that: "Yes, 'other leaders' still demur, but the progression has been going in one direction for all that." Absent more forceful NATO intervention Russia WILL defeat Ukraine. That is the correlation of forces as it stands. Yet Macron (and not just Macron) "insist[s] on the need to send a clear signal to Russia that it cannot win in Ukraine." And if the current "signals" don't get the desired response, then what? One lesson of history is that the unlikelihood of heads of state getting things very, very wrong isn't what you appear to imagine it top be. See, e.g., WWI, but not remotely just WWI. Do you really want to risk kissing your ass goodbye relying on the good sense of Macron to not send the FFL to Ukraine?

    Replies: @Frau Katze
  339. @HA
    @Reg Cæsar

    "This is about the sartorial preferences of someone working for the US Office of Nuclear Energy. We are, or were, paying 'their' salary. Are you saying taxpayers don’t have a right to demand a dress code?"

    I think "were paying" is more correct than "are paying":

    For the second time in three months, Brinton stands accused of stealing a woman’s suitcase from an airport luggage carousel. He has now been suspended from his government role and is facing a hefty fine with a possible custodial sentence.
    Whereas if you do a search on "MTG crotch video" (or worse yet, "Matt Gaetz reacts to MTG crotch video") you're going to get an eyeful of people still mind-bogglingly employed by the establishment. Have I mentioned the presidential candidate who tells his escorts they remind him of his daughter?

    Speaking of which, Matt Gaetz's "doc, gimme a double-dose of everything you got" approach to plastic surgery bespeaks a dysmorphia right up there with whatever is messing with Brinton.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    Nope. Nothing you brain-dead Leftys point to is remotely comparable to Brinton. And, anyway, neither MTG or Gaetz or Trump were hired, they were elected and nobody other than their electorate can fire them. The Dems knowingly HIRED Beinton and the tranny Admiral BECAUSE the Dems are normalizing mentally defective perversions. Things which are different are not the same.

    •�Agree: deep anonymous
    •�Replies: @HA
    @Gandydancer

    "Nothing you brain-dead Leftys point to is remotely comparable to Brinton."

    Face it: you're having to try and make hay of someone even the Democratshave disavowed. Why? Because that's all you got: weak sauce. And hey, with regard to gender-fluid confusion how's and his/her wife?

    An Army doctor said to be the first active-duty officer to come out as transgender has been indicted on a charge of providing confidential U.S. government information to Russia to assist that nation in its war against Ukraine.
    https://www.advocate.com/media-library/major-jamie-lee-henry.jpg?id=32652904&width=1200&height=675

    What are you willing to bet that a fanboy like Henry would prefer to see fellow fanboy Trump in office again? So even when it comes to trans this-that, there's plenty to deal with on your side of the fence.

    And don't even get me started on malodorous Baron Von Sh!tzinPants who tells his whores they remind him of his daughter and who sells blingy hip-hop sneakers while his most devoted followers proudly strap on diapers in praise to their orange-headed leader. That's not a little "weird" to you? What about Bobert? She's not doing well in her campaign run, so she may eventually, like Brinton, fade into history, but for now, her antics almost rival those of MTG.

    And if I'm brain dead (let alone any kind of "Lefty"), what does the fact that I can make mincemeat out of your arguments say about you?

    "If Ukraine cannot defeat Russia (and it can’t) how else is NATO going to stop Russia from winning in Ukraine without taking further steps in the direction of nuclear war?"

    First of all, Ukraine is not trying to "defeat" Russia. It is trying to survive and get some security arrangement that doesn't consist of gutting its military (so as to be "neutral") and relying on a slip of paper like the one signed in Budapest a few decades ago which Russia already shredded.

    And there's plenty more the West can do. Not just showing some backbone on the sanctions, but also patching them where they leak (e.g. Kyrgyzstan). Right now, we're allowing China to have it both ways -- if they're going to continue siding with Putin, we can make that plenty more expensive. There's also some 300bn in seized assets that has only started to trickle down the Ukrainians. There's additional intelligence aid that can wreak havoc with Russia's trade in blood diamonds and such (as recently demonstrated in Mali). The Russians have been cleared out of a wide swath of the Black Sea, thereby restoring traffic there, but there's likewise more where that came from.

    Replies: @Gandydancer
  340. @Reg Cæsar
    @Frau Katze


    Note that in Canada there is no political party running on an anti-abortion plank. It’s that unpopular.
    Which is odd, because Morgentaler came down 15 years after Roe. Parliament was told by the court-- based on a constitution on which the ink hadn't quite dried-- to rewrite the law from scratch. No Parliament has since done so, leaving the country with no law whatsoever, other than general medical practice standards.

    This sounds less like principle than cowardice. In the Roe/Morgentaler era, laws throughout Europe were stricter than in North America. Not as strict as opponents would like, but enough to horrify any North American "prochoicer" were the same to be proposed over here. Evidently, this was the result of democratic, legislative deliberation.

    Replies: @Frau Katze, @Gandydancer

    …leaving the country with no law whatsoever, other than general medical practice standards.

    …such as the ones being weaponized to remove Jordan Peterson’s ability to practice psychiatry, which clarifies that phrase considerably..

  341. @deep anonymous
    @Gandydancer

    "People who talk about “it’s Blacks who suffer most” smell to me like Democrats."

    I'm not so sure about that. They smell to me like a certain breed of pandering Republicans who are afraid to say in public how much public policy harms Whites, and so they say things like, "it's Blacks! who suffer most" so that they can appear respectable to urban elites.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    …they say things like, “it’s Blacks! who suffer most” so that they can appear respectable to urban elites.

    OK, they give off the ratty odor OF Democrats.

    •�Replies: @deep anonymous
    @Gandydancer

    I concede that there is a good bit of truth to the notion of a Uniparty. There is a lot less difference between R's and D's than they want you to think. It gets old voting for the lesser of two evils and then praying.
  342. @Frau Katze
    @Reg Cæsar

    Re: Nordstream Pipeline

    Maybe someday we’ll know. Maybe not in my lifetime though.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon

    Re: Nordstream Pipeline

    Maybe someday we’ll know. Maybe not in my lifetime though.

    Ask Joe Biden:

  343. @Frau Katze
    @Gandydancer

    Since his comment “promoted outcry” I think it’s unlikely that anything will actually be done. Even if Russia eventually succeeds.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    Since his comment “promoted outcry” I think it’s unlikely that anything will actually be done. Even if Russia eventually succeeds.

    I already answered that: “Yes, ‘other leaders’ still demur, but the progression has been going in one direction for all that.” Absent more forceful NATO intervention Russia WILL defeat Ukraine. That is the correlation of forces as it stands. Yet Macron (and not just Macron) “insist[s] on the need to send a clear signal to Russia that it cannot win in Ukraine.” And if the current “signals” don’t get the desired response, then what? One lesson of history is that the unlikelihood of heads of state getting things very, very wrong isn’t what you appear to imagine it top be. See, e.g., WWI, but not remotely just WWI. Do you really want to risk kissing your ass goodbye relying on the good sense of Macron to not send the FFL to Ukraine?

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Gandydancer

    I’m not personally worried about WW 3. I’ve been hearing stuff like this since the 60s.

    I’ve been hearing people about civilization collapsing also since the 60s.

    Things have changed a great since the days of WW 1. I’ve read a lot on how that war started.

    Times were very different. For one thing, the population and even the generals didn’t seem to appreciate how deadly modern weapons were. The European military didn’t learn anything from the American Civil War.

    Not to mention the atom bombs detonated over Japan. We had to read about that in high school.

    No wonder there were so many protests over the Vietnam War.

    Have people become more enthused about war since then? I see no indication of it. People might tolerate volunteer only fighting. Although I think Americans are sick of even that lately.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @James B. Shearer, @Gandydancer, @Curle, @Colin Wright
  344. @Erik L
    @AnotherDad

    This is a good proposal. I think Wilkey's objection could be answered by making the selection based on a publicly available random number. The numbers racket in NYC used the final few digits of the Dow Jones at the end of trading.

    Your final paragraph would be nice but too easy to get around. Who would decide if the court had made a political decision? The courts have had plausible sounding legal reasoning for all their political cases. Who would get the blatantly political ones like the lawfare claims and the close elections with hanging chads?

    How would we handle cases that cross between immigration and other issues?

    How would we assure congress does this impeaching when half the congress would be pleased as punch with any law the supreme court wills into existence?

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    This is a good proposal. I think Wilkey’s objection could be answered by making the selection based on a publicly available random number. The numbers racket in NYC used the final few digits of the Dow Jones at the end of trading.

    Back when I played wargames by mail we would simulate dice rolls by the last digit of trading volumes in heavily traded stocks on a future date between mailing our moves and expected receipt. But with SCOTUS panel membership at stake I’m sure any such number could easily be manipulated. Did the policy racket guys never do that?

    A quick glance art the relevant Wikipedia page shows a different random number generator.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_game

  345. @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    I genuinely don’t know who did the Nordstream Pipeline. That’s because I don’t want to simply decide based on the vague “evidence” I see in these comments. Which is no evidence at all.

    Plenty of evidence for the Holocaust in total contrast.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    I genuinely don’t know who did the Nordstream Pipeline. That’s because I don’t want to simply decide based on the vague “evidence” I see in these comments. Which is no evidence at all.

    Plenty of evidence for the Holocaust in total contrast.

    There’s sufficient evidence to at least surmise that we condoned the attack on the Nordstream pipeline. Who precisely actually did it hasn’t been clearly established — but that’s not the critical point. It obviously wasn’t the Russians — the absurd assertions of our media notwithstanding. Therefore, it was someone on our side with the technological ability to do it and at least some confidence that if the US found out, we wouldn’t squeal. I don’t see why it matters much if it was us, some other NATO member, or even the Ukrainians who physically did it.

    It is like the Holocaust in that in both cases, claiming to ‘genuinely not know’ is based on a desire to not know rather than an actual appraisal of the evidence.

  346. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Jack D

    Wins the internet for Retarded Analogy of the Week. Also wins the internet for the "I Don't Understand What's Actually Going On" comment of the month.

    Have you ever won a single legal case, in your career?

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Have you ever won a single legal case, in your career?’

    I think JackD thinks like a modern lawyer thinks — even though he isn’t in a courtroom. Truth isn’t his concern; he just puts up the best argument he can for whatever position he chooses to hold.

    Apparently, it never occurs to him that there is anything unethical about that. It would help if he would look up ‘disingenuous.’ It would also help if he would consider the moral complexion of at least one of the entities he chooses to defend. Even a lawyer can decline to take a case.

    •�Replies: @deep anonymous
    @Colin Wright


    "Even a lawyer can decline to take a case."
    Be careful what you pray for. Increasingly, right-wing dissidents are finding it hard to get legal assistance, banking and financial services, etc. Just look at the sad case of the late VDare.

    BTW, not all attorneys are litigators. I know a very successful attorney who never goes to court. Some lawyers do primarily transactional work. Their primary goal is to help ensure that their clients never have to go to court to settle a dispute.

    Replies: @Colin Wright
  347. @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    The Trump Ad is old news. Tom Cotton brought it up in 2020. And some low information voters will be led to believe that wide swaths of violent darkies were bailed out and caused mayhem. So the appearance is that Kamala unwittingly supported a group (the MFF) that foolishly bailed out a disproportionate number of vibrants in the wake of the Minneapolis protests. But if we dig deeper into numbers (hey, you’re a numbers guy), here is what we find. I thought you prided yourself on data and context.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Freedom_Fund

    —In 2020 and 2021, efforts in Minnesota were made to reduce inequities in the application of bail, but also to seek greater oversight of the Minnesota Freedom Fund. In December 2020, prosecutors in the Minnesota counties of Hennepin and Washington stopped seeking bail for people charged with nonviolent felonies, which the use of bail had disproportionately effect on people of color. In the 2021 Minnesota Legislative Session, some lawmakers proposed legislation to require bail funds to make public the person or organization that posts bail for certain violent crimes, and to prohibit bail funds from posting bail for people charged with violent crimes or had a prior conviction for violent crime.

    By May 2021, the organization had distributed $19 million for more than 900 criminal and immigration bonds. According to then-leader Greg Lewin in 2020, the bail fund "do not make determinations of bail support based on the crimes that individuals are alleged to have committed".[2] Co-executive director Mirella Ceja-Orozco had said that the organization does not "judge whether the person had committed a crime or not because that's what the courts are for". The fund has drawn criticism for some of the people it bailed out.—

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/03/kamala-harris-tweeted-support-bail-fund-money-didnt-just-assist-protestors/

    According to an accounting by the American Bail Coalition, verified by The Fact Checker with a review of Hennepin County jail records, all but three of the 170 people arrested during the protests between May 26 and June 2 were released from jail within a week. Of the 167 released, only 10 had to put up a monetary bond to be released; in most cases, the amounts were nominal, such as $78 or $100. In fact, 92 percent of those arrested had to pay no bail — and 29 percent of those arrested did not face charges. (The American Bail Coalition is a trade group of insurance companies who profit from underwriting bail bonds.

    MFF “definitely got a windfall,” said Jeffrey J. Clayton, executive director of the American Bail Coalition. “The purpose for what they got the money was not there.” Still, there are some instances of MFF assisting people accused of serious crimes.

    Cotton’s claim that “violent rioters” were released with MFF funds has some basis in fact. But we stumble over Cotton’s additional claim that violent rioters were let out of jail to do more damage. MFF did bail out at least two people charged with attempted murder or burglary during the protests. But there is no evidence they committed additional crimes after being released. His spokesman points to a disturbing case that was unconnected to the protests. But that’s not what Cotton tweeted.

    Moreover, it turns out the MFF was only a bit player in the release of people charged during the protests. The vast majority of people — 92 percent — had to pay no bail. So both Cotton and Trump are wrong to suggest that the donations led to the release of many protesters or rioters.

    At the same time, people who sent millions of dollars to MFF to aid peaceful protesters may be surprised to learn their moneys were not needed in the first place, even if they support elimination of the cash-bail system.


    Replies: @Gandydancer

    The Trump Ad is old news.

    And your point is…? Harris is running now, and reminding people who don’t know or barely recall this example of what a POS she is is perfectly appropriate. A campaign ad is not a doctoral thesis and does not require for its educational function that illuminating new research be performed. Yes, the Soros-type DA was even more responsible for the no-bail no-prosecution atrocity that Harris was promoting to give a different impression of her prosecutorial past that was so unpopular with the (D) base, but he’s not running for President.

  348. @Frau Katze
    @Colin Wright

    I genuinely don’t know who did the Nordstream Pipeline. That’s because I don’t want to simply decide based on the vague “evidence” I see in these comments. Which is no evidence at all.

    Plenty of evidence for the Holocaust in total contrast.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “Plenty of evidence for the Holocaust in total contrast.”

    Which is precisely why it is prohibited by (((law))), and widely punished with serious prison time, to question or to seriously examine in good faith this supposed “evidence.” Unlike ANY other “historical” event in “history”. Wow, that makes for an air-tight trustworthy case.

    Hey I’m not a Holocaust crackpot, I have lots more important things to care about than how many Jews got stuffed into how many death-dirigibles or death-roller-coasters or electric dance-floors or whatever; but I do know why certain people get banned from the poker tables in Vegas and Atlantic City.

    •�Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    "Which is precisely why it is prohibited by (((law))), and widely punished with serious prison time, to question or to seriously examine in good faith this supposed “evidence.” ..."

    It is only prohibited by law in a few countries. There are plenty of other countries (including the US) where the doubters could make their case if they had a case.
  349. @Gandydancer
    @deep anonymous


    ...they say things like, “it’s Blacks! who suffer most” so that they can appear respectable to urban elites.
    OK, they give off the ratty odor OF Democrats.

    Replies: @deep anonymous

    I concede that there is a good bit of truth to the notion of a Uniparty. There is a lot less difference between R’s and D’s than they want you to think. It gets old voting for the lesser of two evils and then praying.

  350. @Colin Wright
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    'Have you ever won a single legal case, in your career?'
    I think JackD thinks like a modern lawyer thinks -- even though he isn't in a courtroom. Truth isn't his concern; he just puts up the best argument he can for whatever position he chooses to hold.

    Apparently, it never occurs to him that there is anything unethical about that. It would help if he would look up 'disingenuous.' It would also help if he would consider the moral complexion of at least one of the entities he chooses to defend. Even a lawyer can decline to take a case.

    Replies: @deep anonymous

    “Even a lawyer can decline to take a case.”

    Be careful what you pray for. Increasingly, right-wing dissidents are finding it hard to get legal assistance, banking and financial services, etc. Just look at the sad case of the late VDare.

    BTW, not all attorneys are litigators. I know a very successful attorney who never goes to court. Some lawyers do primarily transactional work. Their primary goal is to help ensure that their clients never have to go to court to settle a dispute.

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @deep anonymous


    '...Their primary goal is to help ensure that their clients never have to go to court to settle a dispute.'
    And you don' wanna. Court is a crapshoot. I've won unreasonably, lost unreasonably, and actually had verdicts that made sense.

    ...but there is nothing quite like sitting in Small Claims Court with a case that actually isn't all that small and reflecting on the probable acumen of someone who is a small claims court judge at sixty. It's like realizing the guy about to operate on you appears to be drunk.

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @anonymous
  351. @Sam Malone
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    Russia invaded Ukraine. The Ukrainians are fighting back.
    Let's all take a moment to remember this is also, as far as I've ever seen, the beginning and end of Steve's views on this topic, or rather it's the deliberately simplistic reasoning he's adopted as his public posture.

    "The bad people are doing bad things, purely because they're bad, and shucks, I just don't like bad stuff, so I'll not admit anything deeper could be going on involving unjust and unwise behavior by my country's foreign policy elite, and instead just repeat whatever jingoistic propaganda is fed to me from the same uniparty establishment I admit to mistrusting on any number of demographic / domestic issues."

    Steve's really smart, and George W. Bush was really dumb, but this line isn't too far away from Bush's position after September 11 that essentially we were hit only because "they hate us because we're free".

    You'd think Steve would be a little embarrassed to maintain such a position on such a crucial matter in world affairs, but maybe he doesn't have the bandwidth to get involved in every issue. And there's a lot of hay to be made in the bad-black-driving-statistics and black-histrionics-over-their-hair world. Priorities, priorities.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Agree with much of the above, but this is just for entertainment purposes….

    “Steve’s really smart, and George W. Bush was really dumb,”

    I believe I have on several occasions advised, that if you want to know what’s actually going on somewhere, make friends with a couple of smart strippers in a high-end “Gentlemen’s Club,” and they have a tendency to know all the gossip, and the word on the street, and what all the powerful-but-drunk businessmen and politicians know, and will gabble about at will to some dumb girl who they think isn’t really listening, while they think they are relaxing.

    Back in the day in Austin TX, which is of course the capital of Texas and therefore a useful font of Texas inside knowledge… the general understanding of the smarter strippers was, “George W. Bush used to be kind of an actually fairly smart guy, not a genius, but also not a retard… but then he snorted a LOT of blow, and drank a LOT of alcohol, and kind of turned his brain into chunky soup. Which made him totally vulnerable, due to his name and his connections and his lack of circumspection, to the machinations of You Know Who.”

  352. @HA
    @J.Ross

    "Pro-NATO propagandists consistently push for nuking Russia..."

    No, nobody outside of Moscow is threatening to push the button on any nuclear launches. Even China has told Moscow to knock it off.

    We're talking about stuff like this:

    "Attempts to restore Russia's 1991 borders will lead only to one thing - a global war with Western countries with the use of OUR entire strategic (nuclear) arsenal against Kyiv, Berlin, London, and Washington."... Medvedev said in a reference to the triad of intercontinental ballistic missiles, submarine-launched ballistic missiles, and strategic bombers with nuclear weapons. (emphasis added)
    When Medvedev mentions "the use of OUR entire strategic arsenal", it's pretty clear to anyone other than loony fanboys who is actually pushing for nukes. And let me guess: despite all that, it's STILL somehow Washington's fault, am I right?

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    “Attempts to restore Russia’s 1991 borders will lead only to one thing – a global war with Western countries with the use of OUR entire strategic (nuclear) arsenal against Kyiv, Berlin, London, and Washington.”… Medvedev said in a reference to the triad of intercontinental ballistic missiles, submarine-launched ballistic missiles, and strategic bombers with nuclear weapons. (emphasis added)

    When Medvedev mentions “the use of OUR entire strategic arsenal”, it’s pretty clear to anyone other than loony fanboys who is actually pushing for nukes.

    Actually that is as clear as mud. By “for nukes” I take it you mean “the use of nukes”, but that makes no sense unless you think Medvedev was advocating for “a global war” in which both sides would use nukes and which Russia could have, if it chose, initiated at any time. Since it didn’t it’s actually clear that Russia never wanted this. I presume we are relying on the accuracy of some translator motivated to push a literally nonsensical interpretation like yours. I decline to do so.

    •�Replies: @HA
    @Gandydancer



    When Medvedev mentions “the use of OUR entire strategic arsenal”, it’s pretty clear to anyone other than loony fanboys who is actually pushing for nukes.
    Actually that is as clear as mud.
    Wow, this explains so much of your disconnected-from-reality posting. Medvedev is openly asserting that Russia will resort to nukes if they don't get what they want. And you think this is because no journalist reporting on the issue knows any Russian and they had to resort to GoogleTranslate?Wow. I mean, even their good buddy China specifically warned them to knock it off. So much for brain-dead. Why even bother posting if drivel like this is the best you've got to work with?

    Medvedev, whose statements diplomats say give a flavour of what senior people in the Kremlin are thinking, said it would be a "fatal mistake" on the part of the West to think that Russia was not ready to use tactical nuclear weapons against Ukraine.

    “Just imagine that the offensive… in tandem with NATO, succeeded and ended up with part of our land being taken away. Then WE would have to use nuclear weapons by virtue of the stipulations of the Russian Presidential Decree,” said Medvedev...(emphasis added)
    No one who isn't a brain-dead fanboy is confused by any of that. When Russia says WE would have to use nukes, there's no confusion whatsoever that THEY are gonna be the ones launching them. You're skipping ahead to the part of the narrative where fanboys claim that that doesn't matter, because aksully, it was Nuland and NATO who somehow forced them to push the button. Like I said, brain-dead.

    Replies: @Gandydancer
  353. @Gandydancer
    @Frau Katze


    Since his comment “promoted outcry” I think it’s unlikely that anything will actually be done. Even if Russia eventually succeeds.
    I already answered that: "Yes, 'other leaders' still demur, but the progression has been going in one direction for all that." Absent more forceful NATO intervention Russia WILL defeat Ukraine. That is the correlation of forces as it stands. Yet Macron (and not just Macron) "insist[s] on the need to send a clear signal to Russia that it cannot win in Ukraine." And if the current "signals" don't get the desired response, then what? One lesson of history is that the unlikelihood of heads of state getting things very, very wrong isn't what you appear to imagine it top be. See, e.g., WWI, but not remotely just WWI. Do you really want to risk kissing your ass goodbye relying on the good sense of Macron to not send the FFL to Ukraine?

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    I’m not personally worried about WW 3. I’ve been hearing stuff like this since the 60s.

    I’ve been hearing people about civilization collapsing also since the 60s.

    Things have changed a great since the days of WW 1. I’ve read a lot on how that war started.

    Times were very different. For one thing, the population and even the generals didn’t seem to appreciate how deadly modern weapons were. The European military didn’t learn anything from the American Civil War.

    Not to mention the atom bombs detonated over Japan. We had to read about that in high school.

    No wonder there were so many protests over the Vietnam War.

    Have people become more enthused about war since then? I see no indication of it. People might tolerate volunteer only fighting. Although I think Americans are sick of even that lately.

    •�Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Frau Katze

    "For one thing, the population and even the generals didn’t seem to appreciate how deadly modern weapons were. The European military didn’t learn anything from the American Civil War."

    Kudos --- at last, the first intelligent astute thing I've ever heard you say. Granted it's sort of an intellectual commonplace at this point, but all the same, good to see you jump on the Sanity Train for once in a way.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8l3ntDR_lI&list=RDMM&index=5

    Replies: @Frau Katze
    , @James B. Shearer
    @Frau Katze

    "Have people become more enthused about war since then? I see no indication of it. ..."

    People, especially on the left, used to be more afraid of nuclear war. The Biden administration's aggressive policy towards Russia would have gotten a lot more push back 40 years ago. Apparently a lot of the anti-war movement was funded by the Soviet Union and when the money dried up so did the movement.

    Replies: @Frau Katze
    , @Gandydancer
    @Frau Katze


    I’m not personally worried about WW 3. I’ve been hearing stuff like this since the 60s.
    Point out to me where a French President was talking about sending French troops to fight Soviet troops. And then we've got that Hoover Institution maniac (H.R.McMasters, I think it was) who wanted to send a carrier group into the Black Sea to escort "aid" into Ukraine, with a promise to attack the Russian Black Sea fleet if they interfered. (The fact that the then ongoing negotiations were to get Ukrainian grain OUT of Ukraine was lost on him.) That's just off the top of my head. And, as I've already pointed out a couple of times the initial brakes are coming off in all sorts of ways. Ukraine firing NATO weapons into Russia is more and more countenanced. And what is NATO going to do if Russian counterattacks become less constrained? Maybe you're not worried, but that merely means that my judgment is better than yours.

    Replies: @Frau Katze
    , @Curle
    @Frau Katze


    No wonder there were so many protests over the Vietnam War.

    Have people become more enthused about war since then? I see no indication of it. People might tolerate volunteer only fighting. Although I think Americans are sick of even that lately.
    The answer you ask, “[h]ave people become more enthused about war” is answered by your reference to Vietnam and the volunteer army. Enthusiasm for war increased considerably after the mandatory draft was eliminated and ruling class (and former Hippies and kids of neocons) could enjoy the spoils of war without experiencing the downsides. See Jerry Rubin who became a business investor.

    Replies: @Frau Katze
    , @Colin Wright
    @Frau Katze


    I’m not personally worried about WW 3. I’ve been hearing stuff like this since the 60s.
    That's a bit like saying you don't worry about a serious car wreck; you've never had one.

    So leave off that seat belt. Talk on the cell phone while you drive. Argue with your passenger. Run a light or two.

    Why worry? You've never had a serious accident.

    I think we're being incredibly frivolous. We're engaging in pointless grandstanding and provocation, while all the while counting on Putin to be the grown-up in the room.
  354. @Frau Katze
    @Gandydancer

    I’m not personally worried about WW 3. I’ve been hearing stuff like this since the 60s.

    I’ve been hearing people about civilization collapsing also since the 60s.

    Things have changed a great since the days of WW 1. I’ve read a lot on how that war started.

    Times were very different. For one thing, the population and even the generals didn’t seem to appreciate how deadly modern weapons were. The European military didn’t learn anything from the American Civil War.

    Not to mention the atom bombs detonated over Japan. We had to read about that in high school.

    No wonder there were so many protests over the Vietnam War.

    Have people become more enthused about war since then? I see no indication of it. People might tolerate volunteer only fighting. Although I think Americans are sick of even that lately.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @James B. Shearer, @Gandydancer, @Curle, @Colin Wright

    “For one thing, the population and even the generals didn’t seem to appreciate how deadly modern weapons were. The European military didn’t learn anything from the American Civil War.”

    Kudos — at last, the first intelligent astute thing I’ve ever heard you say. Granted it’s sort of an intellectual commonplace at this point, but all the same, good to see you jump on the Sanity Train for once in a way.

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    the first intelligent astute thing I’ve ever heard you say
    From the guy who writes long rambling posts that usually have no particular point.

    Eff off, troll.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
  355. @notbe mk 2
    @Frau Katze

    except the ad was run a bit too early to be decisive. Likely the Trump people are experimenting with what might stick with the some undecideds looking for a weak spot-rattling woke sprogs doesn't matter, like you said they won't vote for him anyways.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    except the ad was run a bit too early to be decisive.

    Nonsense. Ads work by repetition and it’s never too early to run them if you want maximum effect. What’s needed is not delay but bringing attention to it early and often and to get the (D)s hysterical about it.

  356. @epebble
    @epebble

    Well, it happened. My ink was barely dry:

    Trump suggests Harris would struggle with world leaders based on her appearance
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-suggests-harris-would-struggle-with-world-leaders-based-on-her-appearance/ar-BB1qVog8

    Now, did he really think we need additional hint? Like: adding that he didn’t want to spell it out but viewers would know what he meant.

    He is starting to feel he may lose. This is the rabies virus spreading. It will consume him.

    Replies: @HA, @Gandydancer

    Thanks for running with MSN’s bullshit interpretation. If you look at the article you link to Trump’s actual words are:

    They look at her and they say, ‘We can’t believe we got so lucky.’ They’re going to walk all over her. And I don’t want to say as to why. But a lot of people understand it.

    The “based on her appearance” bit is based on nothing Trump said.

    •�Replies: @HA
    @Gandydancer

    How on earth is that "they'll walk all over her and I don't want to say why, wink, wink, but we all know why" any more favorable to the orange blowhard than the so called MSN's bullsh!t interpretation? It's like you don't even read what you post.

    I will say, however, that unlike the vast majority of stuff that emanates from Trump's bloated cheeks, there is some truth to what he's saying. Putin will do his utmost to punish us if we fail to elect his stooge to the presidency. Russia's analysts are keyed in -- via the sewage lines through which their propaganda propagates -- to the notion that any Democrat administration will be full of drag queens and PMS cases unable to offer any serious resistance, and he'll definitely try and take advantage of that. (And let's face it, the only reason he might forego doing that if Trump is elected is because he knows Trump is just gonna cave and do what he wants anyway.)

    That being said, if Putin does indeed try to "walk all over her", I suspect it's gonna cost him. Then again, doing things that amount to shooting himself in the foot seems to be an ongoing thing with him these days.
    , @epebble
    @Gandydancer

    How else do you parse "I don’t want to say as to why. But a lot of people understand it"?

    1. She is a woman; So, Putin will "walk all over her"
    2. She is colored (+ woman); Same as 1.

    How are 1 & 2 not "based on her appearance"? That is how I understand it. What other ways of understanding are there?

    Replies: @Gandydancer
  357. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Steve Sailer

    The South is a gigantic failure all unto itself; whether it would have failed better with Blacks and Whites failing together or apart, is the topic of a sci-fi novel that nobody would read.

    There's all kinds of reasons to speculate about Southern backwardness. I have my own theories, which are non-scientific, and I invite any and all to tear them apart...

    -- It's just the damn weather. Who could live in that much heat and humidity? Plus, never having to dress or prepare for snowstorms probably stifles your brain in some way.

    -- It's the churches. The South is full of crackpot podunk rinky-dink churches, spouting whatever Protestant nonsense the local retards want to hear. In the north, the Catholics, the Jews, the Methodists, the Lutherans, the Episcopals, the Presbyterians all had a formalized magisterium and a scholarly tradition and a hermeneutics to back them up and teach from recognized authority. Not some Baptist cretin yawping about anything in the world he felt like. As a Catholic kid, I remember being taken one time on an "inter-faith" field trip to visit a Protestant church, and even as a kid I felt sorry for them and thought, Wow, these people are retarded. Of course now all the churches are woke-destroyed, I'm just talking about past historical fabric.

    -- It's the cooking. It's very tasty but it probably rots your brain as well as your arteries. Also the long history of pellagra and other forms of malnutrition prolly left its mark.

    -- It's the sort-of semi-medieval code of courtesy and politesse. Very charming, to be sure, but perhaps locked emotionally and intellectually into a prior era.

    -- It's plain old Northern cultural chauvinism: Robert Penn Warren is a great poet, so is James Dickey, but you won't get the Yankees to admit that.

    -- It's the loss of the old aristocracy that gave us Jefferson and Washington and so on.

    Eh, who knows? But I really really doubt that Jim Crow, whatever else you might like to say about it, caused much of a developmental lag.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @rebel yell, @mc23

    It’s been pointed out that the South stayed a frontier a lot longer than the North due to terrain. The lowlands and swamps impeded transportation and development. This also prolonged the more violent honor culture that goes along with a frontier herder way of life. Honor cultures may be a step lower in IQ, since in these societies brawn wins out over brains more often. The south was colonized by a mix of Europeans with more Scots-Irish, who themselves were border/herder/honor culture people, and so may have started out with a more violent, lower IQ people.
    Still the south is not a massive failure. It’s always been and still is a great place to live, and has produced its share of artists and scientists, including Edwin O Wilson.
    Losing the Civil War didn’t help. Right or wrong, it’s never good to lose a war. The Germans can attest to this. In the 19th and first half of the 20th century Germany was an economic and cultural powerhouse. Just look at them now, after their defeat.

    •�Replies: @deep anonymous
    @rebel yell


    "Losing the Civil War didn’t help. Right or wrong, it’s never good to lose a war. The Germans can attest to this. In the 19th and first half of the 20th century Germany was an economic and cultural powerhouse. Just look at them now, after their defeat."
    These were societies, unlike the decadent post-modern USA, where lots of high quality men fought and died in war. The genetic cost from the US Civil War and the even greater cost from WWII are incalculable.

    Germany further was subjected to mass indoctrination aka brainwashing. I suspect it was a precursor to what the System does to Whites throughout the West today. It pains me to say this, but Germany is done. And we're not very far behind.
    , @OilcanFloyd
    @rebel yell


    It’s been pointed out that the South stayed a frontier a lot longer than the North due to terrain. The lowlands and swamps impeded transportation and development.
    It has more to do with having Indian tribes in the way. As the natives were displaced by the federal government, whites moved in. From what I can tell, all of my ancestors wound up in Georgia due to military land grants, land lotteries and invites by the federal government to settle land recently taken from the local tribes. All of this happened later in the inland South than it did in New England and along the Atlantic coast.

    The south was colonized by a mix of Europeans with more Scots-Irish, who themselves were border/herder/honor culture people, and so may have started out with a more violent, lower IQ people.
    The Scotch-Irish claims for southern ancestry are heavily exaggerated. Southerners are mostly a mix of English and Lowland Scots (basically English), with a good mix of German and French Protestants thrown in. These people migrated west into what is now Kentucky and West Virginia, and south and east into Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, and into Texas in the southwest, from Virginia and the Carolinas. From what I can tell the Scotch-Irish who did settle in the South were a mix of administrators, ministers, and soldiers, not some mythical Spenglerian stepped herders who somehow survived in the UK for thousands of years. The English who settled in the South were a mix of different classes, with a good portion being from the south and midlands.

    Still the south is not a massive failure. It’s always been and still is a great place to live, and has produced its share of artists and scientists, including Edwin O Wilson.
    Judging by the transplants we get, I don't buy the IQ claims of northerners. I seriously doubt there was any real difference in intelligence in old stock populations in the north and south, since they were basically the same people. The societies that developed in the two regions were very different, due to importation of African slaves, but African slavery was tried in the North first. The eventual southern aristocracy always intended to bring their rigid land-based class and caste system to the New World, and it took root in the South, after being tried in the North. That system produced some impressive individuals in the upper classes, but it also held back the masses of blacks and whites in the South. The aristocracy of the South often viewed themselves as more worldly and civilized than their conservative and inward looking cousins to the North.

    Losing the Civil War meant that the region was looted and controlled by the North for its own purposes. Losing also meant that northerners got to control the narrative, again, for their own purposes.

    FWIW, for all the bashing of lower-class whites in the South, they have always faced a hostile elite class before and after the Civil War, and that continues to this day. It's also probably true that the working and middle classes in the North, who were a part of the cash economy of the time, did benefit more from the cheap raw materials produced by slaves on the plantations of the South than lower-class whites in the South ever did. That was probably true of the North as a whole.
  358. @Steve Sailer
    @Colin Wright

    How'd white people in the South do during Jim Crow? They were hugely prosperous, right?

    What? They lagged economically far behind whites in states without Jim Crow?

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Mike Tre, @Anonymous

    So when Jim Crow was abolished the Southern economy got better? Why?

    •�Replies: @Corvinus
    @Mike Tre

    “So when Jim Crow was abolished the Southern economy got better? Why?”

    Because of fairer wages.
    , @Curle
    @Mike Tre


    So when Jim Crow was abolished the Southern economy got better? Why?
    The entire US economy got better during the same time period until it didn’t. Your question is meaningless absent a comparison of like to like. How did the ‘southern’ agricultural economy compare to other states? What are your years of reference? How did Black out migration impact the economy? How did Hispanic in migration affect the economy. How did industrial relocation to anti-union South affect the economy? Jim Crow ending didn’t change employment law as Corvinus suggests in his familiar frivolous style.

    Replies: @Mike Tre
    , @AnotherDad
    @Mike Tre


    So when Jim Crow was abolished the Southern economy got better? Why?
    Air Conditioning

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @OilcanFloyd, @deep anonymous
  359. The European military didn’t learn anything from the American Civil War.
    Sure about that?

  360. @Corvinus
    @Colin Wright

    “Jim Crow worked.”

    According to Who/Whom? Again, the Plessy ruling stated “separate but equal”. In theory, that sounds wonderful. In reality, it was separate and unequal. Mountains of photographic and sociological evidence confirms it.

    “Blacks caused relatively little trouble, and as black colleges, a black middle class, black baseball, black churches, and black music demonstrate, developed a relatively successful community life of their own.”

    We still have that now.

    “Compare and contrast to now. Explain to me how now is so much better.”

    Equal protection under the law, as intended by the 14th Amendment.

    I live in a mixed neighborhood. We get along swell.

    Replies: @Curle, @James B. Shearer

    I live in a mixed neighborhood. We get along swell.

    In Memphis per chance? Sending the kids to the Black schools? How’s that working out?

    Don’t sweat answering. In cities like Memphis there are almost no actual mixed race neighborhoods except on the extreme margins, 90-10. That sort of thing.

    •�Replies: @Corvinus
    @Curle

    “In Memphis per chance? Sending the kids to the Black schools? How’s that working out?”

    Nope. Midwest city. It’s working out well. You wouldn’t understand. Par for the course for you and others.

    Replies: @Curle, @Anon
  361. @J.Ross
    OT -- Mike Tyson Mysteries is the funniest TV show ever, ably assisted by then still living Canadian comic Norman MacDonald.

    Replies: @Nathan

    Mike Tyson Mysteries is never OT. Also proof that, surprisingly, Mike Tyson has an above average IQ.

  362. @Curle
    @Corvinus


    I live in a mixed neighborhood. We get along swell.
    In Memphis per chance? Sending the kids to the Black schools? How’s that working out?

    Don’t sweat answering. In cities like Memphis there are almost no actual mixed race neighborhoods except on the extreme margins, 90-10. That sort of thing.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “In Memphis per chance? Sending the kids to the Black schools? How’s that working out?”

    Nope. Midwest city. It’s working out well. You wouldn’t understand. Par for the course for you and others.

    •�Replies: @Curle
    @Corvinus

    C’mon. Give us the ethnic and income distribution. Having actually attended a 50/50 black/white mixed school I bet I understand how to interpret your ‘things going fine’ comment.

    Replies: @Mike Tre
    , @Anon
    @Corvinus


    “In Memphis per chance? Sending the kids to the Black schools? How’s that working out?”

    Nope. Midwest city. It’s working out well. You wouldn’t understand. Par for the course for you and others.
    Are your children White or mixed?

    Replies: @Corvinus
  363. HA says:
    @Gandydancer
    @HA

    Nope. Nothing you brain-dead Leftys point to is remotely comparable to Brinton. And, anyway, neither MTG or Gaetz or Trump were hired, they were elected and nobody other than their electorate can fire them. The Dems knowingly HIRED Beinton and the tranny Admiral BECAUSE the Dems are normalizing mentally defective perversions. Things which are different are not the same.

    Replies: @HA

    “Nothing you brain-dead Leftys point to is remotely comparable to Brinton.”

    Face it: you’re having to try and make hay of someone even the Democratshave disavowed. Why? Because that’s all you got: weak sauce. And hey, with regard to gender-fluid confusion how’s and his/her wife?

    An Army doctor said to be the first active-duty officer to come out as transgender has been indicted on a charge of providing confidential U.S. government information to Russia to assist that nation in its war against Ukraine.

    What are you willing to bet that a fanboy like Henry would prefer to see fellow fanboy Trump in office again? So even when it comes to trans this-that, there’s plenty to deal with on your side of the fence.

    And don’t even get me started on malodorous Baron Von Sh!tzinPants who tells his whores they remind him of his daughter and who sells blingy hip-hop sneakers while his most devoted followers proudly strap on diapers in praise to their orange-headed leader. That’s not a little “weird” to you? What about Bobert? She’s not doing well in her campaign run, so she may eventually, like Brinton, fade into history, but for now, her antics almost rival those of MTG.

    And if I’m brain dead (let alone any kind of “Lefty”), what does the fact that I can make mincemeat out of your arguments say about you?

    “If Ukraine cannot defeat Russia (and it can’t) how else is NATO going to stop Russia from winning in Ukraine without taking further steps in the direction of nuclear war?”

    First of all, Ukraine is not trying to “defeat” Russia. It is trying to survive and get some security arrangement that doesn’t consist of gutting its military (so as to be “neutral”) and relying on a slip of paper like the one signed in Budapest a few decades ago which Russia already shredded.

    And there’s plenty more the West can do. Not just showing some backbone on the sanctions, but also patching them where they leak (e.g. Kyrgyzstan). Right now, we’re allowing China to have it both ways — if they’re going to continue siding with Putin, we can make that plenty more expensive. There’s also some 300bn in seized assets that has only started to trickle down the Ukrainians. There’s additional intelligence aid that can wreak havoc with Russia’s trade in blood diamonds and such (as recently demonstrated in Mali). The Russians have been cleared out of a wide swath of the Black Sea, thereby restoring traffic there, but there’s likewise more where that came from.

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @HA


    First of all, Ukraine is not trying to “defeat” Russia.
    You are so full of shit that your eyes have turned completely brown. Among other things the stated objective of Ukrains is to regain control of Crimea and the Donbas and that's not happening without defeating Russia. Don't try to play stupid word games with me. Nazi Germany was DEFEATED in WWII and whether or not its opponents were righteously defending themselves is neither here nor there.

    Face it: you’re having to try and make hay of someone even the Democrats[ ]have disavowed. Why? Because that’s all you got: weak sauce.
    They only disavowed Brinton after he got caught stealing women's clothing at airports, not when he showed up in a dress and bright red lipstick. And, no, that's NOT the only "someone" I mentioned. Harris is STILL saying utterly weird things like ~"Admiral Levine is a woman".

    As to the pictured individual your link says,

    Henry, a major in the U.S. Army, came out as a trans woman in an interview with BuzzFeed News in 2015. Although that was a year before the Obama administration lifted the ban on out trans service members, Henry received permission to change their name and pronouns.
    Yes, Trump didn't fix this. All bark, no bite. But it was still OBAMA who weirdly allowed it.

    If blingy sneakers make money, no, it's not weird to sell them. It's weird to buy them, but that's not what Trump is doing. As I said, in comparison to Democrat weirdness you've got nothing.

    Replies: @HA
  364. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    One great thing about the South that nobody realizes, is that New Orleans is the birthplace of hyper-modern chess: the great Franco-Irish Southern weirdo (and I DO mean weirdo) Paul Morphy revolutionized chess in ways that are still trying to be understood. His lightning-fast games are still the craziest thing in town: if you want to study war theory, forget Sun Tzu, get with your Morphy.

    I always wanted to see a movie or a play about an imaginary meeting between the reserved, eccentric, semi-autistic Morphy (who changed his clothes three times a day and got a haircut twice a week) and the vivacious free-spirited Katherine O'Flaherty/Kate Chopin, authoress of "The Awakening" and one of the early proto-feminist writers; her short stories are a marvel. She was another Franco-Irish socialite from Saint Louis (back when it was called San' Louee) who lived in Nawlins the same time as Morphy, they almost certainly crossed paths -- always wondered what these two crackpots might have said to one another.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    For anyone who cares about such things, I humbly present…. the notorious Opera Game.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_Game

    Morphy defeats two (!! — not one, but two!!) European aristocrats, while sitting in an opera box listening to either “Norma” or “The Barber of Seville,” no one is quite sure which.

    In sixteen moves. Will you just look at that final mating pin.

    Robert E. Lee, step the f#ck aside.

  365. @Frau Katze
    @Gandydancer

    I’m not personally worried about WW 3. I’ve been hearing stuff like this since the 60s.

    I’ve been hearing people about civilization collapsing also since the 60s.

    Things have changed a great since the days of WW 1. I’ve read a lot on how that war started.

    Times were very different. For one thing, the population and even the generals didn’t seem to appreciate how deadly modern weapons were. The European military didn’t learn anything from the American Civil War.

    Not to mention the atom bombs detonated over Japan. We had to read about that in high school.

    No wonder there were so many protests over the Vietnam War.

    Have people become more enthused about war since then? I see no indication of it. People might tolerate volunteer only fighting. Although I think Americans are sick of even that lately.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @James B. Shearer, @Gandydancer, @Curle, @Colin Wright

    “Have people become more enthused about war since then? I see no indication of it. …”

    People, especially on the left, used to be more afraid of nuclear war. The Biden administration’s aggressive policy towards Russia would have gotten a lot more push back 40 years ago. Apparently a lot of the anti-war movement was funded by the Soviet Union and when the money dried up so did the movement.

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @James B. Shearer


    Apparently a lot of the anti-war movement was funded by the Soviet Union and when the money dried up so did the movement.
    That would explain a lot.

    I know they were funding things they thought were destabilizing.
  366. @Corvinus
    @Colin Wright

    “Jim Crow worked.”

    According to Who/Whom? Again, the Plessy ruling stated “separate but equal”. In theory, that sounds wonderful. In reality, it was separate and unequal. Mountains of photographic and sociological evidence confirms it.

    “Blacks caused relatively little trouble, and as black colleges, a black middle class, black baseball, black churches, and black music demonstrate, developed a relatively successful community life of their own.”

    We still have that now.

    “Compare and contrast to now. Explain to me how now is so much better.”

    Equal protection under the law, as intended by the 14th Amendment.

    I live in a mixed neighborhood. We get along swell.

    Replies: @Curle, @James B. Shearer

    “I live in a mixed neighborhood. We get along swell.”

    Whites and Asians?

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @James B. Shearer


    “I live in a mixed neighborhood. We get along swell.”
    This sort of claim irritates me. By 'getting along well' he means ignoring each other as much as possible.

    He does not mean what goes on in an ethnically homogenous neighborhood; loaning each other tools, lending a hand, having each other over for dinner, discussing the state of the nation, trading notes on contractors...

    It's interesting. I didn't realize what a neighbor was until I moved up here. It's not precisely a friend; you don't necessarily have all that much in common. On the other hand, he's certainly not a stranger; you know his name, have some idea what's going on with his kids, take in his garbage can...
  367. Trump is a clown who couldn’t even finesse a debate with a senile Joe Biden. That’s the only advertisement I need.

  368. @Corvinus
    @Curle

    “In Memphis per chance? Sending the kids to the Black schools? How’s that working out?”

    Nope. Midwest city. It’s working out well. You wouldn’t understand. Par for the course for you and others.

    Replies: @Curle, @Anon

    C’mon. Give us the ethnic and income distribution. Having actually attended a 50/50 black/white mixed school I bet I understand how to interpret your ‘things going fine’ comment.

    •�Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Curle

    It's amusing any of you expect honesty from this troll. You don't even realize every time you reply to him, he wins.
  369. @Corvinus
    @Curle

    “In Memphis per chance? Sending the kids to the Black schools? How’s that working out?”

    Nope. Midwest city. It’s working out well. You wouldn’t understand. Par for the course for you and others.

    Replies: @Curle, @Anon

    “In Memphis per chance? Sending the kids to the Black schools? How’s that working out?”

    Nope. Midwest city. It’s working out well. You wouldn’t understand. Par for the course for you and others.

    Are your children White or mixed?

    •�Replies: @Corvinus
    @Anon

    “Are your children White or mixed?”

    Mixed European descent. German, Dutch, and Polish.

    I believe you’re Jewish.
  370. HA says:
    @Gandydancer
    @HA



    “Attempts to restore Russia’s 1991 borders will lead only to one thing – a global war with Western countries with the use of OUR entire strategic (nuclear) arsenal against Kyiv, Berlin, London, and Washington.”… Medvedev said in a reference to the triad of intercontinental ballistic missiles, submarine-launched ballistic missiles, and strategic bombers with nuclear weapons. (emphasis added)
    When Medvedev mentions “the use of OUR entire strategic arsenal”, it’s pretty clear to anyone other than loony fanboys who is actually pushing for nukes.
    Actually that is as clear as mud. By "for nukes" I take it you mean "the use of nukes", but that makes no sense unless you think Medvedev was advocating for "a global war" in which both sides would use nukes and which Russia could have, if it chose, initiated at any time. Since it didn't it's actually clear that Russia never wanted this. I presume we are relying on the accuracy of some translator motivated to push a literally nonsensical interpretation like yours. I decline to do so.

    Replies: @HA

    When Medvedev mentions “the use of OUR entire strategic arsenal”, it’s pretty clear to anyone other than loony fanboys who is actually pushing for nukes.

    Actually that is as clear as mud.

    Wow, this explains so much of your disconnected-from-reality posting. Medvedev is openly asserting that Russia will resort to nukes if they don’t get what they want. And you think this is because no journalist reporting on the issue knows any Russian and they had to resort to GoogleTranslate?Wow. I mean, even their good buddy China specifically warned them to knock it off. So much for brain-dead. Why even bother posting if drivel like this is the best you’ve got to work with?

    Medvedev, whose statements diplomats say give a flavour of what senior people in the Kremlin are thinking, said it would be a “fatal mistake” on the part of the West to think that Russia was not ready to use tactical nuclear weapons against Ukraine.

    “Just imagine that the offensive… in tandem with NATO, succeeded and ended up with part of our land being taken away. Then WE would have to use nuclear weapons by virtue of the stipulations of the Russian Presidential Decree,” said Medvedev…(emphasis added)

    No one who isn’t a brain-dead fanboy is confused by any of that. When Russia says WE would have to use nukes, there’s no confusion whatsoever that THEY are gonna be the ones launching them. You’re skipping ahead to the part of the narrative where fanboys claim that that doesn’t matter, because aksully, it was Nuland and NATO who somehow forced them to push the button. Like I said, brain-dead.

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @HA


    Medvedev is openly asserting that Russia will resort to nukes if they don’t get what they want.
    A brain-dead shit like you shouldn't even attempt argument in a forum where other people get to reply without interference. No, what Medvedev ACTUALLY said, as you quoted it, is “Attempts to restore Russia’s 1991 borders will lead only to one thing – a global war with Western countries..." Yes, the Kyiv regime will never get control of Crimea and the Donbas, WHICH IT NEVER HAD (and which, luckily, it will never be possible for it to do), without triggering a nuclear exchange. This is perfectly standard deterrence talk and characterizing this as "[Medvedev] is actually pushing for nukes" is a weird combination of dishonesty, lunacy and unintelligibility.

    Replies: @HA
  371. HA says:
    @Gandydancer
    @epebble

    Thanks for running with MSN's bullshit interpretation. If you look at the article you link to Trump's actual words are:

    They look at her and they say, ‘We can’t believe we got so lucky.’ They’re going to walk all over her. And I don’t want to say as to why. But a lot of people understand it.
    The "based on her appearance" bit is based on nothing Trump said.

    Replies: @HA, @epebble

    How on earth is that “they’ll walk all over her and I don’t want to say why, wink, wink, but we all know why” any more favorable to the orange blowhard than the so called MSN’s bullsh!t interpretation? It’s like you don’t even read what you post.

    I will say, however, that unlike the vast majority of stuff that emanates from Trump’s bloated cheeks, there is some truth to what he’s saying. Putin will do his utmost to punish us if we fail to elect his stooge to the presidency. Russia’s analysts are keyed in — via the sewage lines through which their propaganda propagates — to the notion that any Democrat administration will be full of drag queens and PMS cases unable to offer any serious resistance, and he’ll definitely try and take advantage of that. (And let’s face it, the only reason he might forego doing that if Trump is elected is because he knows Trump is just gonna cave and do what he wants anyway.)

    That being said, if Putin does indeed try to “walk all over her”, I suspect it’s gonna cost him. Then again, doing things that amount to shooting himself in the foot seems to be an ongoing thing with him these days.

  372. @rebel yell
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    It's been pointed out that the South stayed a frontier a lot longer than the North due to terrain. The lowlands and swamps impeded transportation and development. This also prolonged the more violent honor culture that goes along with a frontier herder way of life. Honor cultures may be a step lower in IQ, since in these societies brawn wins out over brains more often. The south was colonized by a mix of Europeans with more Scots-Irish, who themselves were border/herder/honor culture people, and so may have started out with a more violent, lower IQ people.
    Still the south is not a massive failure. It's always been and still is a great place to live, and has produced its share of artists and scientists, including Edwin O Wilson.
    Losing the Civil War didn't help. Right or wrong, it's never good to lose a war. The Germans can attest to this. In the 19th and first half of the 20th century Germany was an economic and cultural powerhouse. Just look at them now, after their defeat.

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @OilcanFloyd

    “Losing the Civil War didn’t help. Right or wrong, it’s never good to lose a war. The Germans can attest to this. In the 19th and first half of the 20th century Germany was an economic and cultural powerhouse. Just look at them now, after their defeat.”

    These were societies, unlike the decadent post-modern USA, where lots of high quality men fought and died in war. The genetic cost from the US Civil War and the even greater cost from WWII are incalculable.

    Germany further was subjected to mass indoctrination aka brainwashing. I suspect it was a precursor to what the System does to Whites throughout the West today. It pains me to say this, but Germany is done. And we’re not very far behind.

  373. Anonymous[345] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    @Colin Wright

    How'd white people in the South do during Jim Crow? They were hugely prosperous, right?

    What? They lagged economically far behind whites in states without Jim Crow?

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Mike Tre, @Anonymous

    How’d white people in the South do during Jim Crow? They were hugely prosperous, right?

    Whites were better off with segregation than without it.

    What? They lagged economically far behind whites in states without Jim Crow?

    Millions of Whites in the North fled from blacks, abandoning formerly White schools, communities, cities, in order to stay segregated from blacks. Do you claim to know better than those Whites did what was good for them?

    Did you tell your in-laws they were stupid for moving away from Chicago? Because everyone knows that blacks are economic gold. They really just left a $100 bill lying there on the sidewalk, didn’t they Sailer?

    •�Troll: Corvinus
  374. @Anon
    @Corvinus


    “In Memphis per chance? Sending the kids to the Black schools? How’s that working out?”

    Nope. Midwest city. It’s working out well. You wouldn’t understand. Par for the course for you and others.
    Are your children White or mixed?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Are your children White or mixed?”

    Mixed European descent. German, Dutch, and Polish.

    I believe you’re Jewish.

  375. @Mike Tre
    @Steve Sailer

    So when Jim Crow was abolished the Southern economy got better? Why?

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Curle, @AnotherDad

    “So when Jim Crow was abolished the Southern economy got better? Why?”

    Because of fairer wages.

  376. @Mike Tre
    @Steve Sailer

    So when Jim Crow was abolished the Southern economy got better? Why?

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Curle, @AnotherDad

    So when Jim Crow was abolished the Southern economy got better? Why?

    The entire US economy got better during the same time period until it didn’t. Your question is meaningless absent a comparison of like to like. How did the ‘southern’ agricultural economy compare to other states? What are your years of reference? How did Black out migration impact the economy? How did Hispanic in migration affect the economy. How did industrial relocation to anti-union South affect the economy? Jim Crow ending didn’t change employment law as Corvinus suggests in his familiar frivolous style.

    •�Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Curle

    You're coming at the wrong guy. My question is downstream from the assertion that Jim Crow was economically repressive to the South.

    An assertion that was really just egalitarian, virtue signaling gobbily-gook disguised as insight.
  377. @HA
    @epebble

    "He is starting to feel he may lose. This is the rabies virus spreading. It will consume him."

    He was very confident the Democrats would never get rid of Sleepy Joe, and it's almost certain he wouldn't have gone with Vance if he knew Harris was the main ticket.

    JUN 29 Why Trump wants Biden to stay in the race

    During an interview with Fox News Digital after the debate, Trump was asked if he believes Biden will be the Democratic nominee.

    “Yes, I think he will be the nominee,” the former president answered....The greater question for Team Trump is now: Is it better to run against the “devil you know” than against one you don’t?

    The obvious answer for me — and many I speak with — is that it would be much better for Trump if Biden remains the Democratic nominee. Reason one of course being Biden’s debate disaster... That becomes a huge net-plus for Trump.
    It could all still work out well for him, to where he goes back to being too cocky again. (In particular, as happened before with Hillary, the Democrats might choose to get too cocky first, and that certainly didn't work out well.) But for now, the loss of Biden still stings.

    Replies: @epebble, @Curle, @Patrick McNally

    From a political strategy point of view, Trump should have raised to debate Biden until the nomination process was complete. It was probably just overconfidence on Trump’s part. But he made it easier for them to elbow Biden aside in favor of Harris by debating Biden when he did.

    •�Replies: @HA
    @Patrick McNally

    "From a political strategy point of view, Trump should have [refused] to debate Biden until the nomination process was complete."

    The Democrats made a similarly short-sighted blunder when they lambasted Trump's potential VP contender Kristi Noem for having boasted about shooting her dog and then more or less telling her daughter when she came home from school that day, "Yeah, I just put a bullet through little Cricket,... deal with it".

    What they should have done was to wait until after Trump nominated her. As it is, by tearing her apart before she was even picked, they basically gave Trump a free do-over, or at least advance warning that she might prove problematic. (He then used that free do-over to pick Vance instead of Noem, so one could argue that the Democrats were crazy like a fox, but in general, you need to wait until someone is actually picked before unleashing the dirt, otherwise you're just doing your opponent a favor.)

    Replies: @Curle, @epebble
  378. @deep anonymous
    @Colin Wright


    "Even a lawyer can decline to take a case."
    Be careful what you pray for. Increasingly, right-wing dissidents are finding it hard to get legal assistance, banking and financial services, etc. Just look at the sad case of the late VDare.

    BTW, not all attorneys are litigators. I know a very successful attorney who never goes to court. Some lawyers do primarily transactional work. Their primary goal is to help ensure that their clients never have to go to court to settle a dispute.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘…Their primary goal is to help ensure that their clients never have to go to court to settle a dispute.’

    And you don’ wanna. Court is a crapshoot. I’ve won unreasonably, lost unreasonably, and actually had verdicts that made sense.

    …but there is nothing quite like sitting in Small Claims Court with a case that actually isn’t all that small and reflecting on the probable acumen of someone who is a small claims court judge at sixty. It’s like realizing the guy about to operate on you appears to be drunk.

    •�LOL: deep anonymous
    •�Replies: @deep anonymous
    @Colin Wright

    Thanks. I didn't realize you are an attorney, you don't wear it on your sleeve.

    About your comment about the drunken judge in small claims court (here it would be District Court). Unfortunately, there have been an increasing number of "diverse" appointments to circuit courts (our trial courts of general jurisdiction) who are pretty much as incompetent as the judge you describe.

    What I suspect and fear is that, as the number of incompetent diversity hires grows, we will reach a critical point beyond which nothing functions anymore. It is a nonlinear process.

    Replies: @Colin Wright
    , @anonymous
    @Colin Wright

    I didn't realize you're an attorney either. Remember "Trial" magazine (sorta like Golf Digest for lawyers)? Around 1990 there was an article by a veteran trial horse in Beverly Hills. He said he lost his first five jury trials and thought he was in the wrong business. In his final loss, he polled the jury about why they voted as they did, and it turned out that they didn't understand the meaning of a very common word, which I now forget. He wrote, "As soon as I started talking to jurors as if they were 6th graders, I won all my cases."
  379. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Frau Katze

    "Plenty of evidence for the Holocaust in total contrast."

    Which is precisely why it is prohibited by (((law))), and widely punished with serious prison time, to question or to seriously examine in good faith this supposed "evidence." Unlike ANY other "historical" event in "history". Wow, that makes for an air-tight trustworthy case.

    Hey I'm not a Holocaust crackpot, I have lots more important things to care about than how many Jews got stuffed into how many death-dirigibles or death-roller-coasters or electric dance-floors or whatever; but I do know why certain people get banned from the poker tables in Vegas and Atlantic City.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “Which is precisely why it is prohibited by (((law))), and widely punished with serious prison time, to question or to seriously examine in good faith this supposed “evidence.” …”

    It is only prohibited by law in a few countries. There are plenty of other countries (including the US) where the doubters could make their case if they had a case.

  380. @James B. Shearer
    @Frau Katze

    "Have people become more enthused about war since then? I see no indication of it. ..."

    People, especially on the left, used to be more afraid of nuclear war. The Biden administration's aggressive policy towards Russia would have gotten a lot more push back 40 years ago. Apparently a lot of the anti-war movement was funded by the Soviet Union and when the money dried up so did the movement.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    Apparently a lot of the anti-war movement was funded by the Soviet Union and when the money dried up so did the movement.

    That would explain a lot.

    I know they were funding things they thought were destabilizing.

  381. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Frau Katze

    "For one thing, the population and even the generals didn’t seem to appreciate how deadly modern weapons were. The European military didn’t learn anything from the American Civil War."

    Kudos --- at last, the first intelligent astute thing I've ever heard you say. Granted it's sort of an intellectual commonplace at this point, but all the same, good to see you jump on the Sanity Train for once in a way.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8l3ntDR_lI&list=RDMM&index=5

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    the first intelligent astute thing I’ve ever heard you say

    From the guy who writes long rambling posts that usually have no particular point.

    Eff off, troll.

    •�Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Frau Katze

    "From the guy who writes long rambling posts that usually have no particular point."

    Ummm... long rambling posts that have no point, is more or less the entire purpose of the internet.

    Or else, sell your motorcycle!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg4oAb8D7FA&list=RDMM&index=8
  382. @Curle
    @Mike Tre


    So when Jim Crow was abolished the Southern economy got better? Why?
    The entire US economy got better during the same time period until it didn’t. Your question is meaningless absent a comparison of like to like. How did the ‘southern’ agricultural economy compare to other states? What are your years of reference? How did Black out migration impact the economy? How did Hispanic in migration affect the economy. How did industrial relocation to anti-union South affect the economy? Jim Crow ending didn’t change employment law as Corvinus suggests in his familiar frivolous style.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    You’re coming at the wrong guy. My question is downstream from the assertion that Jim Crow was economically repressive to the South.

    An assertion that was really just egalitarian, virtue signaling gobbily-gook disguised as insight.

    •�Thanks: Curle
  383. @Gandydancer
    @epebble

    Thanks for running with MSN's bullshit interpretation. If you look at the article you link to Trump's actual words are:

    They look at her and they say, ‘We can’t believe we got so lucky.’ They’re going to walk all over her. And I don’t want to say as to why. But a lot of people understand it.
    The "based on her appearance" bit is based on nothing Trump said.

    Replies: @HA, @epebble

    How else do you parse “I don’t want to say as to why. But a lot of people understand it”?

    1. She is a woman; So, Putin will “walk all over her”
    2. She is colored (+ woman); Same as 1.

    How are 1 & 2 not “based on her appearance”? That is how I understand it. What other ways of understanding are there?

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @epebble


    How else do you parse “I don’t want to say as to why. But a lot of people understand it”?

    1. She is a woman; So, Putin will “walk all over her”
    2. She is colored (+ woman); Same as 1.

    How are 1 & 2 not “based on her appearance”? That is how I understand it. What other ways of understanding are there?
    When you allege a sentence must be about "appearance" and "woman" and "colored" when the sentence does not contain anything remotely like those words then you're not engaged in "parsing", you're engaged in lying.

    Maybe what Trump is saying is simply that Putin would see her as an obvious weakling simply because he is familiar with her history of non-performance.

    Kruschev famously concluded that JFK was a weakling before the Cuban Missile Crisis never mind that JFK was neither a woman nor a colored person.

    As it happens I'm a direct kind of guy and I wish Trump would be the same and have simply said in plain language whatever it was that he had to say, but I'm not a politician and Trump is a successful one so I don't assume he needs direction from me to choose the right level of ambiguity for it to work for him. But just because he is being ambiguous doesn't give you license to say that he said something he didn't actually say.

    Replies: @epebble
  384. @Gandydancer
    @epebble


    The only way to ratchet it up any further is by using the N word.
    Is that you, Tiny Dick? Criticizing Harris for bailing out criminals is racist, now?

    Replies: @epebble

    It is not racist at all. But it lacks the shock value it had in 1988 coming from G HW Bush. Trump in 2024 has to user larger tonnage of TNT to cause any impact. Proof: the said ad is not even mentioned anywhere on the media unlike “she is not black” which has received good airtime. It is like heroin addiction, increasing dosage is needed for same effect. If he publishes a white paper saying my policy #34 will lead to 6.8% growth compared to my opponents plan that will lead to 1.7% growth, that will be ignored, though that is important. If he uses some uncivil language though, it will be widely reported.

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @epebble


    It is not racist at all. But it lacks the shock value it had in 1988 coming from G HW Bush. Trump in 2024 has to user larger tonnage of TNT to cause any impact. Proof: the said ad is not even mentioned anywhere on the media...
    That's only proof that you Leftys can no longer get away with climbing up on chars, raising your skirts, and screaming "racist!" at any mention of the real state of affairs. NO TNT is or was involved, either in 2024 or 1988.
  385. @Frau Katze
    @Gandydancer

    I’m not personally worried about WW 3. I’ve been hearing stuff like this since the 60s.

    I’ve been hearing people about civilization collapsing also since the 60s.

    Things have changed a great since the days of WW 1. I’ve read a lot on how that war started.

    Times were very different. For one thing, the population and even the generals didn’t seem to appreciate how deadly modern weapons were. The European military didn’t learn anything from the American Civil War.

    Not to mention the atom bombs detonated over Japan. We had to read about that in high school.

    No wonder there were so many protests over the Vietnam War.

    Have people become more enthused about war since then? I see no indication of it. People might tolerate volunteer only fighting. Although I think Americans are sick of even that lately.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @James B. Shearer, @Gandydancer, @Curle, @Colin Wright

    I’m not personally worried about WW 3. I’ve been hearing stuff like this since the 60s.

    Point out to me where a French President was talking about sending French troops to fight Soviet troops. And then we’ve got that Hoover Institution maniac (H.R.McMasters, I think it was) who wanted to send a carrier group into the Black Sea to escort “aid” into Ukraine, with a promise to attack the Russian Black Sea fleet if they interfered. (The fact that the then ongoing negotiations were to get Ukrainian grain OUT of Ukraine was lost on him.) That’s just off the top of my head. And, as I’ve already pointed out a couple of times the initial brakes are coming off in all sorts of ways. Ukraine firing NATO weapons into Russia is more and more countenanced. And what is NATO going to do if Russian counterattacks become less constrained? Maybe you’re not worried, but that merely means that my judgment is better than yours.

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Gandydancer

    Why shouldn’t Ukraine fire NATO missiles? Russia is the aggressor here. I thought you were one of the more reasonable commenters, not another Putinista. If you are, further discussion is pointless.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @James B. Shearer, @Gandydancer
  386. @HA
    @Gandydancer

    "Nothing you brain-dead Leftys point to is remotely comparable to Brinton."

    Face it: you're having to try and make hay of someone even the Democratshave disavowed. Why? Because that's all you got: weak sauce. And hey, with regard to gender-fluid confusion how's and his/her wife?

    An Army doctor said to be the first active-duty officer to come out as transgender has been indicted on a charge of providing confidential U.S. government information to Russia to assist that nation in its war against Ukraine.
    https://www.advocate.com/media-library/major-jamie-lee-henry.jpg?id=32652904&width=1200&height=675

    What are you willing to bet that a fanboy like Henry would prefer to see fellow fanboy Trump in office again? So even when it comes to trans this-that, there's plenty to deal with on your side of the fence.

    And don't even get me started on malodorous Baron Von Sh!tzinPants who tells his whores they remind him of his daughter and who sells blingy hip-hop sneakers while his most devoted followers proudly strap on diapers in praise to their orange-headed leader. That's not a little "weird" to you? What about Bobert? She's not doing well in her campaign run, so she may eventually, like Brinton, fade into history, but for now, her antics almost rival those of MTG.

    And if I'm brain dead (let alone any kind of "Lefty"), what does the fact that I can make mincemeat out of your arguments say about you?

    "If Ukraine cannot defeat Russia (and it can’t) how else is NATO going to stop Russia from winning in Ukraine without taking further steps in the direction of nuclear war?"

    First of all, Ukraine is not trying to "defeat" Russia. It is trying to survive and get some security arrangement that doesn't consist of gutting its military (so as to be "neutral") and relying on a slip of paper like the one signed in Budapest a few decades ago which Russia already shredded.

    And there's plenty more the West can do. Not just showing some backbone on the sanctions, but also patching them where they leak (e.g. Kyrgyzstan). Right now, we're allowing China to have it both ways -- if they're going to continue siding with Putin, we can make that plenty more expensive. There's also some 300bn in seized assets that has only started to trickle down the Ukrainians. There's additional intelligence aid that can wreak havoc with Russia's trade in blood diamonds and such (as recently demonstrated in Mali). The Russians have been cleared out of a wide swath of the Black Sea, thereby restoring traffic there, but there's likewise more where that came from.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    First of all, Ukraine is not trying to “defeat” Russia.

    You are so full of shit that your eyes have turned completely brown. Among other things the stated objective of Ukrains is to regain control of Crimea and the Donbas and that’s not happening without defeating Russia. Don’t try to play stupid word games with me. Nazi Germany was DEFEATED in WWII and whether or not its opponents were righteously defending themselves is neither here nor there.

    Face it: you’re having to try and make hay of someone even the Democrats[ ]have disavowed. Why? Because that’s all you got: weak sauce.

    They only disavowed Brinton after he got caught stealing women’s clothing at airports, not when he showed up in a dress and bright red lipstick. And, no, that’s NOT the only “someone” I mentioned. Harris is STILL saying utterly weird things like ~”Admiral Levine is a woman”.

    As to the pictured individual your link says,

    Henry, a major in the U.S. Army, came out as a trans woman in an interview with BuzzFeed News in 2015. Although that was a year before the Obama administration lifted the ban on out trans service members, Henry received permission to change their name and pronouns.

    Yes, Trump didn’t fix this. All bark, no bite. But it was still OBAMA who weirdly allowed it.

    If blingy sneakers make money, no, it’s not weird to sell them. It’s weird to buy them, but that’s not what Trump is doing. As I said, in comparison to Democrat weirdness you’ve got nothing.

    •�Replies: @HA
    @Gandydancer

    "You are so full of sh!t that your eyes have turned completely brown."

    You have quite the obsession about matters fecal, don't you? You got a therapist working you through that? For now, maybe find some new metaphors.

    "Among other things the stated objective of Ukrains is to regain control of Crimea and the Donbas and that’s not happening without defeating Russia."

    Oh, the strawmen just keep coming. Everybody has a starting position of stated objectives, and then at some point, the haggling begins. Do I really need to explain that? Russia's stated position upon launching the war was to overthrow the "narcomaniacs" who usurped the Ukrainian presidency. That hasn't gone too well. They've also mumbled about maybe getting Poland to act as a cat's paw and take the remaining rump-Galicia portion so as to completely wipe out Ukraine, but no one (probably not even Orban) is dumb enough to accept an offer like that. And if their goal is having anything much remain of Donbass and Crimea that is of use to them, that's dwindling away, too. At some point, there may not be worth much to either side. It still doesn't mean that Moscow has to be defeated for Ukraine to survive and attain the kind of security arrangments that makes another Russian invasion unlikely (which is exactly what Putin has tellingly refused to offer them).

    "They only disavowed Brinton after he got caught stealing women’s clothing at airports, not when he showed up in a dress and bright red lipstick."

    Yeah, and the pathetic thing about you is that you'd be OK with that, I suspect, were Brinton just the regular upstanding full-blooded American thief who did his pilfering in jeans and T-shirts (or orange hair and business suit). The dress outrages you more than the thievery.

    "...it was still OBAMA who weirdly allowed it."

    Yeah, you'll be blaming Johnson or FDR someone before long, the way you keep somersaulting back in time. The fact remains: Jenner, Henry -- you got plenty of Brintonesque drama on your side of the fence, but unlike you, I'm gonna say the outright treason bugs me more than the pearls and the coiffure and the confusion. Our priorities differ that way.
  387. @HA
    @Gandydancer



    When Medvedev mentions “the use of OUR entire strategic arsenal”, it’s pretty clear to anyone other than loony fanboys who is actually pushing for nukes.
    Actually that is as clear as mud.
    Wow, this explains so much of your disconnected-from-reality posting. Medvedev is openly asserting that Russia will resort to nukes if they don't get what they want. And you think this is because no journalist reporting on the issue knows any Russian and they had to resort to GoogleTranslate?Wow. I mean, even their good buddy China specifically warned them to knock it off. So much for brain-dead. Why even bother posting if drivel like this is the best you've got to work with?

    Medvedev, whose statements diplomats say give a flavour of what senior people in the Kremlin are thinking, said it would be a "fatal mistake" on the part of the West to think that Russia was not ready to use tactical nuclear weapons against Ukraine.

    “Just imagine that the offensive… in tandem with NATO, succeeded and ended up with part of our land being taken away. Then WE would have to use nuclear weapons by virtue of the stipulations of the Russian Presidential Decree,” said Medvedev...(emphasis added)
    No one who isn't a brain-dead fanboy is confused by any of that. When Russia says WE would have to use nukes, there's no confusion whatsoever that THEY are gonna be the ones launching them. You're skipping ahead to the part of the narrative where fanboys claim that that doesn't matter, because aksully, it was Nuland and NATO who somehow forced them to push the button. Like I said, brain-dead.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    Medvedev is openly asserting that Russia will resort to nukes if they don’t get what they want.

    A brain-dead shit like you shouldn’t even attempt argument in a forum where other people get to reply without interference. No, what Medvedev ACTUALLY said, as you quoted it, is “Attempts to restore Russia’s 1991 borders will lead only to one thing – a global war with Western countries…” Yes, the Kyiv regime will never get control of Crimea and the Donbas, WHICH IT NEVER HAD (and which, luckily, it will never be possible for it to do), without triggering a nuclear exchange. This is perfectly standard deterrence talk and characterizing this as “[Medvedev] is actually pushing for nukes” is a weird combination of dishonesty, lunacy and unintelligibility.

    •�Replies: @HA
    @Gandydancer

    "No, what Medvedev ACTUALLY said, as you quoted it, is 'Attempts to restore Russia’s 1991 borders will lead only to one thing – a global war with Western countries…'”

    Cherry-pick all you want. Even you are gonna have trouble weaseling out of the rest of what I cited, e.g.:

    “Just imagine that the offensive… in tandem with NATO, succeeded and ended up with part of OUR land being taken away. Then WE would have to use nuclear weapons..."
    So you want to claim -- with a straight face -- that the "OUR" land in this case refers to Russian land, but as for the "WE", that can only refer to some grander collective? And what does China know about who is threatening who, given that they specifically singled out Russia in their rebuke?

    Sounds to me like you're the one playing games with GoogleTranslate, fanboy, though I think even that would be giving you too much credit. I'll stick with brain-dead, given that you yourself so tellingly introduced it into the conversation.

    Replies: @Gandydancer
  388. @Frau Katze
    @Gandydancer

    I’m not personally worried about WW 3. I’ve been hearing stuff like this since the 60s.

    I’ve been hearing people about civilization collapsing also since the 60s.

    Things have changed a great since the days of WW 1. I’ve read a lot on how that war started.

    Times were very different. For one thing, the population and even the generals didn’t seem to appreciate how deadly modern weapons were. The European military didn’t learn anything from the American Civil War.

    Not to mention the atom bombs detonated over Japan. We had to read about that in high school.

    No wonder there were so many protests over the Vietnam War.

    Have people become more enthused about war since then? I see no indication of it. People might tolerate volunteer only fighting. Although I think Americans are sick of even that lately.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @James B. Shearer, @Gandydancer, @Curle, @Colin Wright

    No wonder there were so many protests over the Vietnam War.

    Have people become more enthused about war since then? I see no indication of it. People might tolerate volunteer only fighting. Although I think Americans are sick of even that lately.

    The answer you ask, “[h]ave people become more enthused about war” is answered by your reference to Vietnam and the volunteer army. Enthusiasm for war increased considerably after the mandatory draft was eliminated and ruling class (and former Hippies and kids of neocons) could enjoy the spoils of war without experiencing the downsides. See Jerry Rubin who became a business investor.

    •�Replies: @Frau Katze
    @Curle

    They’ve become willing to tolerate limited wars since the draft was abolished definitely. But we’re nowhere near the enthusiasm that greeted the outbreak of WW 1.

    Replies: @Curle
  389. @Frau Katze
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    the first intelligent astute thing I’ve ever heard you say
    From the guy who writes long rambling posts that usually have no particular point.

    Eff off, troll.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    “From the guy who writes long rambling posts that usually have no particular point.”

    Ummm… long rambling posts that have no point, is more or less the entire purpose of the internet.

    Or else, sell your motorcycle!

  390. @Curle
    @Frau Katze


    No wonder there were so many protests over the Vietnam War.

    Have people become more enthused about war since then? I see no indication of it. People might tolerate volunteer only fighting. Although I think Americans are sick of even that lately.
    The answer you ask, “[h]ave people become more enthused about war” is answered by your reference to Vietnam and the volunteer army. Enthusiasm for war increased considerably after the mandatory draft was eliminated and ruling class (and former Hippies and kids of neocons) could enjoy the spoils of war without experiencing the downsides. See Jerry Rubin who became a business investor.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    They’ve become willing to tolerate limited wars since the draft was abolished definitely. But we’re nowhere near the enthusiasm that greeted the outbreak of WW 1.

    •�Replies: @Curle
    @Frau Katze


    we’re nowhere near the enthusiasm that greeted the outbreak of WW 1.
    How confident are you that the American public generally, as contrasted with the cinematic version of the American public, was enthusiastic about the war? My grandfather was gassed in that war and I never got the impression he became a fan of Wilson’s for bringing that about and I spent a lot of time with him as a child.

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  391. @Gandydancer
    @Frau Katze


    I’m not personally worried about WW 3. I’ve been hearing stuff like this since the 60s.
    Point out to me where a French President was talking about sending French troops to fight Soviet troops. And then we've got that Hoover Institution maniac (H.R.McMasters, I think it was) who wanted to send a carrier group into the Black Sea to escort "aid" into Ukraine, with a promise to attack the Russian Black Sea fleet if they interfered. (The fact that the then ongoing negotiations were to get Ukrainian grain OUT of Ukraine was lost on him.) That's just off the top of my head. And, as I've already pointed out a couple of times the initial brakes are coming off in all sorts of ways. Ukraine firing NATO weapons into Russia is more and more countenanced. And what is NATO going to do if Russian counterattacks become less constrained? Maybe you're not worried, but that merely means that my judgment is better than yours.

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    Why shouldn’t Ukraine fire NATO missiles? Russia is the aggressor here. I thought you were one of the more reasonable commenters, not another Putinista. If you are, further discussion is pointless.

    •�Replies: @rebel yell
    @Frau Katze


    Why shouldn’t Ukraine fire NATO missiles? Russia is the aggressor here. I thought you were one of the more reasonable commenters, not another Putinista. If you are, further discussion is pointless.
    Well, the main thing that makes further discussion pointless is when someone resorts to petty name calling, such as "Putinista". What's the point in debating with someone who uses a word like that?
    As to the merits of the case, you see the war as right against wrong, so consequences be damned, right must fight against wrong. Why shouldn't Ukraine fire NATO missiles into Russia?
    Gandydancer seemed to be saying that consequences do matter, and that escalating toward a possible nuclear showdown is imprudent.
    But of course, Putinistas who make arguments from practicality or prudence, or God forbid American interests, are beyond reasoning with. Truly reasonable people don't listen to those kinds of arguments.

    Replies: @HA
    , @James B. Shearer
    @Frau Katze

    "Why shouldn’t Ukraine fire NATO missiles? ..."

    Because NATO provides them with conditions. NATO is willing to help Ukraine to a certain extent but not if it means getting into a nuclear war with Russia. So NATO doesn't want Ukraine provoking Russia too much. Also Ukrainian attacks deep in Russia are probably counter productive in that they have little military effect but increase Russian support of the war.

    Replies: @HA
    , @Gandydancer
    @Frau Katze

    Whether or not Russia is "the aggressor" is irrelevant to the subject under discussion, which is whether NATO is flirting with Armageddon by, among other things, giving Ukraine NATO missiles, etc., to fire into Russia. Moral righteousness is no armor against Russia firing back.
  392. HA says:
    @Gandydancer
    @HA


    Medvedev is openly asserting that Russia will resort to nukes if they don’t get what they want.
    A brain-dead shit like you shouldn't even attempt argument in a forum where other people get to reply without interference. No, what Medvedev ACTUALLY said, as you quoted it, is “Attempts to restore Russia’s 1991 borders will lead only to one thing – a global war with Western countries..." Yes, the Kyiv regime will never get control of Crimea and the Donbas, WHICH IT NEVER HAD (and which, luckily, it will never be possible for it to do), without triggering a nuclear exchange. This is perfectly standard deterrence talk and characterizing this as "[Medvedev] is actually pushing for nukes" is a weird combination of dishonesty, lunacy and unintelligibility.

    Replies: @HA

    “No, what Medvedev ACTUALLY said, as you quoted it, is ‘Attempts to restore Russia’s 1991 borders will lead only to one thing – a global war with Western countries…’”

    Cherry-pick all you want. Even you are gonna have trouble weaseling out of the rest of what I cited, e.g.:

    “Just imagine that the offensive… in tandem with NATO, succeeded and ended up with part of OUR land being taken away. Then WE would have to use nuclear weapons…”

    So you want to claim — with a straight face — that the “OUR” land in this case refers to Russian land, but as for the “WE”, that can only refer to some grander collective? And what does China know about who is threatening who, given that they specifically singled out Russia in their rebuke?

    Sounds to me like you’re the one playing games with GoogleTranslate, fanboy, though I think even that would be giving you too much credit. I’ll stick with brain-dead, given that you yourself so tellingly introduced it into the conversation.

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @HA

    While I did was point out that what you allege to be a transcript of what Medvedev said simply doesn't parse and that I accordingly think it was corrupted either by the translator or by tendentious editing, but my main point was that Medvedev seemed to be stating a perfectly ordinary understanding of the way nuclear deterrence works and that your bizarre characterization of this as "[Medvedev is] actually pushing for nukes" is retarded. You may want to ignore this, but I'll just keep repeating the point as long as you continue to evade addressing it. You're a recidivist lying idiot jackass, but you'll have to find a different forum if you want to get away with emitting such lying idiocies without rebuke.

    Replies: @HA
  393. @Frau Katze
    @Gandydancer

    Why shouldn’t Ukraine fire NATO missiles? Russia is the aggressor here. I thought you were one of the more reasonable commenters, not another Putinista. If you are, further discussion is pointless.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @James B. Shearer, @Gandydancer

    Why shouldn’t Ukraine fire NATO missiles? Russia is the aggressor here. I thought you were one of the more reasonable commenters, not another Putinista. If you are, further discussion is pointless.

    Well, the main thing that makes further discussion pointless is when someone resorts to petty name calling, such as “Putinista”. What’s the point in debating with someone who uses a word like that?
    As to the merits of the case, you see the war as right against wrong, so consequences be damned, right must fight against wrong. Why shouldn’t Ukraine fire NATO missiles into Russia?
    Gandydancer seemed to be saying that consequences do matter, and that escalating toward a possible nuclear showdown is imprudent.
    But of course, Putinistas who make arguments from practicality or prudence, or God forbid American interests, are beyond reasoning with. Truly reasonable people don’t listen to those kinds of arguments.

    •�Replies: @HA
    @rebel yell

    "Well, the main thing that makes further discussion pointless is when someone resorts to petty name calling, such as 'Putinista'”.

    Do you prefer Putinist instead of the feminized version? You do seem to have a lot of issues with that side of the gender line:

    ... you admitted you are a woman, which explains your drama queen emotional style...

    you’ve indicated to us that you are a woman, [so] I understand why you aren’t able to control your emotions better.

    This nasty sanctimonious woman in fact hates the young lower class ...

    his face like an old woman. What a sheep.

    If you were the ugliest woman alive...

    Look at the dour old Scandinavian woman in the back...

    So creepy. What's causing all that, I wonder? The little blue pills aren't doing it for you any more, or is the fact that you unable to even get into a situation where you might need them making you complain about sour grapes. Or else, do you just take umbrage at name-calling when someone other than you resorts to it?

    Replies: @rebel yell
  394. @Frau Katze
    @Curle

    They’ve become willing to tolerate limited wars since the draft was abolished definitely. But we’re nowhere near the enthusiasm that greeted the outbreak of WW 1.

    Replies: @Curle

    we’re nowhere near the enthusiasm that greeted the outbreak of WW 1.

    How confident are you that the American public generally, as contrasted with the cinematic version of the American public, was enthusiastic about the war? My grandfather was gassed in that war and I never got the impression he became a fan of Wilson’s for bringing that about and I spent a lot of time with him as a child.

    •�Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    @Curle


    My grandfather was gassed in that war and I never got the impression he became a fan of Wilson’s for bringing that about and I spent a lot of time with him as a child.
    I've never met a combat veteran who spoke fondly of war. They didn't talk of war at all, for the most part. The ones I knew told me to stay out of the military.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
  395. @Frau Katze
    @Gandydancer

    Why shouldn’t Ukraine fire NATO missiles? Russia is the aggressor here. I thought you were one of the more reasonable commenters, not another Putinista. If you are, further discussion is pointless.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @James B. Shearer, @Gandydancer

    “Why shouldn’t Ukraine fire NATO missiles? …”

    Because NATO provides them with conditions. NATO is willing to help Ukraine to a certain extent but not if it means getting into a nuclear war with Russia. So NATO doesn’t want Ukraine provoking Russia too much. Also Ukrainian attacks deep in Russia are probably counter productive in that they have little military effect but increase Russian support of the war.

    •�Replies: @HA
    @James B. Shearer

    "Also Ukrainian attacks deep in Russia are probably counter productive in that they have little military effect..."

    If they're bombing oil/gas/weapons depots, then regardless of where in Russia they are located, they most definitely do have a military effect. Unlike the Russians, the Ukrainians have thus far aimed their weapons at strategic targets. That's partly because Russia has to resort to scrounging up dilapidated old-school weaponry, but that's not an excuse by which they get to weasel out of responsibility for the children's cancer hospitals and the like that they bomb.

    One could argue that focusing the weaponry on the western Black Sea areas that Russia has tried to take away from Ukraine is even more important, and is less likely to kill Russian citizens, but the Ukrainians have already made that largely uninhabitable for Russian seacraft.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer
  396. Meanwhile, back in the States…

    all good die-hard Eno loyalists continue to hate Bryan Ferry on general principle, but here you just gotta give it to him, and to the great bass player Johnny Gustafson.

    Note to rockers: do NOT neglect that bass!!

  397. @Colin Wright
    @deep anonymous


    '...Their primary goal is to help ensure that their clients never have to go to court to settle a dispute.'
    And you don' wanna. Court is a crapshoot. I've won unreasonably, lost unreasonably, and actually had verdicts that made sense.

    ...but there is nothing quite like sitting in Small Claims Court with a case that actually isn't all that small and reflecting on the probable acumen of someone who is a small claims court judge at sixty. It's like realizing the guy about to operate on you appears to be drunk.

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @anonymous

    Thanks. I didn’t realize you are an attorney, you don’t wear it on your sleeve.

    About your comment about the drunken judge in small claims court (here it would be District Court). Unfortunately, there have been an increasing number of “diverse” appointments to circuit courts (our trial courts of general jurisdiction) who are pretty much as incompetent as the judge you describe.

    What I suspect and fear is that, as the number of incompetent diversity hires grows, we will reach a critical point beyond which nothing functions anymore. It is a nonlinear process.

    •�Replies: @Colin Wright
    @deep anonymous


    Thanks. I didn’t realize you are an attorney, you don’t wear it on your sleeve.
    I'm not; I've just been in court six-seven times.
  398. @Curle
    @Frau Katze


    we’re nowhere near the enthusiasm that greeted the outbreak of WW 1.
    How confident are you that the American public generally, as contrasted with the cinematic version of the American public, was enthusiastic about the war? My grandfather was gassed in that war and I never got the impression he became a fan of Wilson’s for bringing that about and I spent a lot of time with him as a child.

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd

    My grandfather was gassed in that war and I never got the impression he became a fan of Wilson’s for bringing that about and I spent a lot of time with him as a child.

    I’ve never met a combat veteran who spoke fondly of war. They didn’t talk of war at all, for the most part. The ones I knew told me to stay out of the military.

    •�Agree: Curle, deep anonymous
    •�Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @OilcanFloyd

    When I was growing up my father, who was a Navy vet but thankfully not an actual combat vet, used to put it to me this way:

    "The military can sometimes be very useful for building a young man's character and keeping him out of trouble... if he doesn't have any other resources. But thankfully for you, unlike me, you've had a good family and good resources -- so in other words, DON'T JOIN THE MILITARY."

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  399. @rebel yell
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    It's been pointed out that the South stayed a frontier a lot longer than the North due to terrain. The lowlands and swamps impeded transportation and development. This also prolonged the more violent honor culture that goes along with a frontier herder way of life. Honor cultures may be a step lower in IQ, since in these societies brawn wins out over brains more often. The south was colonized by a mix of Europeans with more Scots-Irish, who themselves were border/herder/honor culture people, and so may have started out with a more violent, lower IQ people.
    Still the south is not a massive failure. It's always been and still is a great place to live, and has produced its share of artists and scientists, including Edwin O Wilson.
    Losing the Civil War didn't help. Right or wrong, it's never good to lose a war. The Germans can attest to this. In the 19th and first half of the 20th century Germany was an economic and cultural powerhouse. Just look at them now, after their defeat.

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @OilcanFloyd

    It’s been pointed out that the South stayed a frontier a lot longer than the North due to terrain. The lowlands and swamps impeded transportation and development.

    It has more to do with having Indian tribes in the way. As the natives were displaced by the federal government, whites moved in. From what I can tell, all of my ancestors wound up in Georgia due to military land grants, land lotteries and invites by the federal government to settle land recently taken from the local tribes. All of this happened later in the inland South than it did in New England and along the Atlantic coast.

    The south was colonized by a mix of Europeans with more Scots-Irish, who themselves were border/herder/honor culture people, and so may have started out with a more violent, lower IQ people.

    The Scotch-Irish claims for southern ancestry are heavily exaggerated. Southerners are mostly a mix of English and Lowland Scots (basically English), with a good mix of German and French Protestants thrown in. These people migrated west into what is now Kentucky and West Virginia, and south and east into Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee, and into Texas in the southwest, from Virginia and the Carolinas. From what I can tell the Scotch-Irish who did settle in the South were a mix of administrators, ministers, and soldiers, not some mythical Spenglerian stepped herders who somehow survived in the UK for thousands of years. The English who settled in the South were a mix of different classes, with a good portion being from the south and midlands.

    Still the south is not a massive failure. It’s always been and still is a great place to live, and has produced its share of artists and scientists, including Edwin O Wilson.

    Judging by the transplants we get, I don’t buy the IQ claims of northerners. I seriously doubt there was any real difference in intelligence in old stock populations in the north and south, since they were basically the same people. The societies that developed in the two regions were very different, due to importation of African slaves, but African slavery was tried in the North first. The eventual southern aristocracy always intended to bring their rigid land-based class and caste system to the New World, and it took root in the South, after being tried in the North. That system produced some impressive individuals in the upper classes, but it also held back the masses of blacks and whites in the South. The aristocracy of the South often viewed themselves as more worldly and civilized than their conservative and inward looking cousins to the North.

    Losing the Civil War meant that the region was looted and controlled by the North for its own purposes. Losing also meant that northerners got to control the narrative, again, for their own purposes.

    FWIW, for all the bashing of lower-class whites in the South, they have always faced a hostile elite class before and after the Civil War, and that continues to this day. It’s also probably true that the working and middle classes in the North, who were a part of the cash economy of the time, did benefit more from the cheap raw materials produced by slaves on the plantations of the South than lower-class whites in the South ever did. That was probably true of the North as a whole.

    •�Thanks: William Badwhite
  400. HA says:
    @Patrick McNally
    @HA

    From a political strategy point of view, Trump should have raised to debate Biden until the nomination process was complete. It was probably just overconfidence on Trump's part. But he made it easier for them to elbow Biden aside in favor of Harris by debating Biden when he did.

    Replies: @HA

    “From a political strategy point of view, Trump should have [refused] to debate Biden until the nomination process was complete.”

    The Democrats made a similarly short-sighted blunder when they lambasted Trump’s potential VP contender Kristi Noem for having boasted about shooting her dog and then more or less telling her daughter when she came home from school that day, “Yeah, I just put a bullet through little Cricket,… deal with it”.

    What they should have done was to wait until after Trump nominated her. As it is, by tearing her apart before she was even picked, they basically gave Trump a free do-over, or at least advance warning that she might prove problematic. (He then used that free do-over to pick Vance instead of Noem, so one could argue that the Democrats were crazy like a fox, but in general, you need to wait until someone is actually picked before unleashing the dirt, otherwise you’re just doing your opponent a favor.)

    •�Replies: @Curle
    @HA

    Noem is in unimpressive Sara Palin copycat who brings no new demographic to the table and who comes from a state that passed an anti-free speech law under the guise of fighting antisemitism. She’d be a ridiculously bad pick compared to Vance which is why she wasn’t picked.

    Replies: @HA
    , @epebble
    @HA

    Shooting a wayward dog is far less consequential, politically, than pissing off majority of voters. JD has shown he can insert more than one foot in his mouth. He also seems to have annoyed some MAGA purists by his choice of spouse. Noem wouldn't have been such a heavy albatross around Trump's neck.

    Replies: @HA
  401. HA says:
    @James B. Shearer
    @Frau Katze

    "Why shouldn’t Ukraine fire NATO missiles? ..."

    Because NATO provides them with conditions. NATO is willing to help Ukraine to a certain extent but not if it means getting into a nuclear war with Russia. So NATO doesn't want Ukraine provoking Russia too much. Also Ukrainian attacks deep in Russia are probably counter productive in that they have little military effect but increase Russian support of the war.

    Replies: @HA

    “Also Ukrainian attacks deep in Russia are probably counter productive in that they have little military effect…”

    If they’re bombing oil/gas/weapons depots, then regardless of where in Russia they are located, they most definitely do have a military effect. Unlike the Russians, the Ukrainians have thus far aimed their weapons at strategic targets. That’s partly because Russia has to resort to scrounging up dilapidated old-school weaponry, but that’s not an excuse by which they get to weasel out of responsibility for the children’s cancer hospitals and the like that they bomb.

    One could argue that focusing the weaponry on the western Black Sea areas that Russia has tried to take away from Ukraine is even more important, and is less likely to kill Russian citizens, but the Ukrainians have already made that largely uninhabitable for Russian seacraft.

    •�Replies: @James B. Shearer
    @HA

    "...Unlike the Russians, the Ukrainians have thus far aimed their weapons at strategic targets. That’s partly because Russia has to resort to scrounging up dilapidated old-school weaponry, but that’s not an excuse by which they get to weasel out of responsibility for the children’s cancer hospitals and the like that they bomb."

    So how do the Russians compare to the Israelis in terms of avoiding civilian casualties?
  402. @HA
    @Patrick McNally

    "From a political strategy point of view, Trump should have [refused] to debate Biden until the nomination process was complete."

    The Democrats made a similarly short-sighted blunder when they lambasted Trump's potential VP contender Kristi Noem for having boasted about shooting her dog and then more or less telling her daughter when she came home from school that day, "Yeah, I just put a bullet through little Cricket,... deal with it".

    What they should have done was to wait until after Trump nominated her. As it is, by tearing her apart before she was even picked, they basically gave Trump a free do-over, or at least advance warning that she might prove problematic. (He then used that free do-over to pick Vance instead of Noem, so one could argue that the Democrats were crazy like a fox, but in general, you need to wait until someone is actually picked before unleashing the dirt, otherwise you're just doing your opponent a favor.)

    Replies: @Curle, @epebble

    Noem is in unimpressive Sara Palin copycat who brings no new demographic to the table and who comes from a state that passed an anti-free speech law under the guise of fighting antisemitism. She’d be a ridiculously bad pick compared to Vance which is why she wasn’t picked.

    •�Replies: @HA
    @Curle

    "She’d be a ridiculously bad pick compared to Vance..."

    Yeah, based on his recent actions (attempting to schmooze black journalists and the like) it is abundantly clear that Trump has absolutely no regrets whatsoever about running a ticket with two white guys -- one of them a literal neckbeard. You keep telling yourself that.

    Hey, how come Vance hasn't wisecracked about cat ladies recently? I hear that kind of "negging" from neckbeard types really turns the women on, but for some reason, it doesn't seem to have worked for him. Who could have foreseen that?

    Oh, well, I'm sure the Trump campaign's other efforts to "diversify" his appeal will be a home run, as I've noted elsewhere. If nothing else, they'll appeal to black women with 6 or 7 webbed noodle-fingers who are missing a couple of toes. We wouldn't want to forget about that important demographic.

    And if that doesn't work, he can resort to his usual pick-up line of late, which is to tell the women he's trying to entice into bed that they remind him of his daughter. That, and about $130K is evidently all one needs to get a woman who is "a lot like Ivanka" in the mood.

    Replies: @Curle, @HA
  403. HA says:
    @rebel yell
    @Frau Katze


    Why shouldn’t Ukraine fire NATO missiles? Russia is the aggressor here. I thought you were one of the more reasonable commenters, not another Putinista. If you are, further discussion is pointless.
    Well, the main thing that makes further discussion pointless is when someone resorts to petty name calling, such as "Putinista". What's the point in debating with someone who uses a word like that?
    As to the merits of the case, you see the war as right against wrong, so consequences be damned, right must fight against wrong. Why shouldn't Ukraine fire NATO missiles into Russia?
    Gandydancer seemed to be saying that consequences do matter, and that escalating toward a possible nuclear showdown is imprudent.
    But of course, Putinistas who make arguments from practicality or prudence, or God forbid American interests, are beyond reasoning with. Truly reasonable people don't listen to those kinds of arguments.

    Replies: @HA

    “Well, the main thing that makes further discussion pointless is when someone resorts to petty name calling, such as ‘Putinista’”.

    Do you prefer Putinist instead of the feminized version? You do seem to have a lot of issues with that side of the gender line:

    … you admitted you are a woman, which explains your drama queen emotional style…

    you’ve indicated to us that you are a woman, [so] I understand why you aren’t able to control your emotions better.

    This nasty sanctimonious woman in fact hates the young lower class …

    his face like an old woman. What a sheep.

    If you were the ugliest woman alive…

    Look at the dour old Scandinavian woman in the back…

    So creepy. What’s causing all that, I wonder? The little blue pills aren’t doing it for you any more, or is the fact that you unable to even get into a situation where you might need them making you complain about sour grapes. Or else, do you just take umbrage at name-calling when someone other than you resorts to it?

    •�Replies: @rebel yell
    @HA

    Hmm... you searched years of comments and found six with negative references to women (two of them about you). Another commentor called you a spiteful wife the other day, so I'm not the only one who has noticed your temperament.
    The complaint against you, HA, is the nasty personality you bring to every argument. Your over-the-top emotionalism is annoying, and yes, what we would expect from a teen-age girl. I only throw spitballs at you occasionally in response to your constant taunting of everyone else.
    LOL

    Replies: @HA
  404. @HA
    @Patrick McNally

    "From a political strategy point of view, Trump should have [refused] to debate Biden until the nomination process was complete."

    The Democrats made a similarly short-sighted blunder when they lambasted Trump's potential VP contender Kristi Noem for having boasted about shooting her dog and then more or less telling her daughter when she came home from school that day, "Yeah, I just put a bullet through little Cricket,... deal with it".

    What they should have done was to wait until after Trump nominated her. As it is, by tearing her apart before she was even picked, they basically gave Trump a free do-over, or at least advance warning that she might prove problematic. (He then used that free do-over to pick Vance instead of Noem, so one could argue that the Democrats were crazy like a fox, but in general, you need to wait until someone is actually picked before unleashing the dirt, otherwise you're just doing your opponent a favor.)

    Replies: @Curle, @epebble

    Shooting a wayward dog is far less consequential, politically, than pissing off majority of voters. JD has shown he can insert more than one foot in his mouth. He also seems to have annoyed some MAGA purists by his choice of spouse. Noem wouldn’t have been such a heavy albatross around Trump’s neck.

    •�Replies: @HA
    @epebble

    "Shooting a wayward dog is far less consequential..."

    I dunno. Having your daughter come home from school and ask "Hey, where's Cricket?" sounds to me like the makings of a pretty dark SNL skit.

    And maybe I'm more of a dog lover than most, but a purported "Family Values" adulteress who is also a boastful dog-killer is not someone who I think is going to broaden Trump's base, once she's put through the wringer. I don't know if Vance was better or worse, all in all, but I do think that in general, you should wait for your opponent to declare a candidate before proceeding to rip him or her to shreds, otherwise, you just give the enemy the option of a free do-over.

    I will note that Trump's advisers seem to have been savvier in that respect. If they do have dirt against Kelly or Shapiro, they haven't released it yet. I'm betting they're saving that until after the pick is confirmed.

    Replies: @epebble
  405. HA says:
    @Curle
    @HA

    Noem is in unimpressive Sara Palin copycat who brings no new demographic to the table and who comes from a state that passed an anti-free speech law under the guise of fighting antisemitism. She’d be a ridiculously bad pick compared to Vance which is why she wasn’t picked.

    Replies: @HA

    “She’d be a ridiculously bad pick compared to Vance…”

    Yeah, based on his recent actions (attempting to schmooze black journalists and the like) it is abundantly clear that Trump has absolutely no regrets whatsoever about running a ticket with two white guys — one of them a literal neckbeard. You keep telling yourself that.

    Hey, how come Vance hasn’t wisecracked about cat ladies recently? I hear that kind of “negging” from neckbeard types really turns the women on, but for some reason, it doesn’t seem to have worked for him. Who could have foreseen that?

    Oh, well, I’m sure the Trump campaign’s other efforts to “diversify” his appeal will be a home run, as I’ve noted elsewhere. If nothing else, they’ll appeal to black women with 6 or 7 webbed noodle-fingers who are missing a couple of toes. We wouldn’t want to forget about that important demographic.

    And if that doesn’t work, he can resort to his usual pick-up line of late, which is to tell the women he’s trying to entice into bed that they remind him of his daughter. That, and about $130K is evidently all one needs to get a woman who is “a lot like Ivanka” in the mood.

    •�Replies: @Curle
    @HA


    but for some reason, it doesn’t seem to have worked for him. Who could have foreseen that?
    Thanks for magnifying Tribal media memes (sarc off). You imagining you know what is or isn’t working and in what way is probably your first mistake. Dilettantes are forever insisting on democratizing expertise. The cat lady comments were done on purpose and may have already achieved their purpose.

    Replies: @HA
    , @HA
    @HA

    "Hey, how come Vance hasn’t wisecracked about cat ladies recently? "

    Oh, and just on cue, Vance's handlers have come out with some fresh attempts at damage control regarding "childless cat ladies".

    Usha Vance, wife of...Sen. JD Vance of Ohio, ...said her husband’s “quip” intended to convey that U.S. policies do not do enough to provide the support families need.
    Yeah, because when you want to "convey" the need to help families, the best way to make it happen is to attack childless cat ladies. Just like those witch-hunts back in medieval times -- I bet Usha thinks what they really meant to convey by all those burnings was a desire for more affordable day care. Or like when you want to push for more playgrounds and decide the best way to convey that is to run a hate-campaign against muscular dystrophy kids in wheelchairs.

    To be honest, it sounds a little fishy -- and kind of desperate -- to me. But I guess it's just like when Vance said he thought Trump might be America's Hitler and now he's probably saying that what he really meant to convey by that was Trump only wanted to get the buses to run on time.
  406. @Frau Katze
    @Gandydancer

    I’m not personally worried about WW 3. I’ve been hearing stuff like this since the 60s.

    I’ve been hearing people about civilization collapsing also since the 60s.

    Things have changed a great since the days of WW 1. I’ve read a lot on how that war started.

    Times were very different. For one thing, the population and even the generals didn’t seem to appreciate how deadly modern weapons were. The European military didn’t learn anything from the American Civil War.

    Not to mention the atom bombs detonated over Japan. We had to read about that in high school.

    No wonder there were so many protests over the Vietnam War.

    Have people become more enthused about war since then? I see no indication of it. People might tolerate volunteer only fighting. Although I think Americans are sick of even that lately.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @James B. Shearer, @Gandydancer, @Curle, @Colin Wright

    I’m not personally worried about WW 3. I’ve been hearing stuff like this since the 60s.

    That’s a bit like saying you don’t worry about a serious car wreck; you’ve never had one.

    So leave off that seat belt. Talk on the cell phone while you drive. Argue with your passenger. Run a light or two.

    Why worry? You’ve never had a serious accident.

    I think we’re being incredibly frivolous. We’re engaging in pointless grandstanding and provocation, while all the while counting on Putin to be the grown-up in the room.

  407. @deep anonymous
    @Colin Wright

    Thanks. I didn't realize you are an attorney, you don't wear it on your sleeve.

    About your comment about the drunken judge in small claims court (here it would be District Court). Unfortunately, there have been an increasing number of "diverse" appointments to circuit courts (our trial courts of general jurisdiction) who are pretty much as incompetent as the judge you describe.

    What I suspect and fear is that, as the number of incompetent diversity hires grows, we will reach a critical point beyond which nothing functions anymore. It is a nonlinear process.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    Thanks. I didn’t realize you are an attorney, you don’t wear it on your sleeve.

    I’m not; I’ve just been in court six-seven times.

    •�Thanks: deep anonymous
  408. @James B. Shearer
    @Corvinus

    "I live in a mixed neighborhood. We get along swell."

    Whites and Asians?

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    “I live in a mixed neighborhood. We get along swell.”

    This sort of claim irritates me. By ‘getting along well’ he means ignoring each other as much as possible.

    He does not mean what goes on in an ethnically homogenous neighborhood; loaning each other tools, lending a hand, having each other over for dinner, discussing the state of the nation, trading notes on contractors…

    It’s interesting. I didn’t realize what a neighbor was until I moved up here. It’s not precisely a friend; you don’t necessarily have all that much in common. On the other hand, he’s certainly not a stranger; you know his name, have some idea what’s going on with his kids, take in his garbage can…

  409. @HA
    @Curle

    "She’d be a ridiculously bad pick compared to Vance..."

    Yeah, based on his recent actions (attempting to schmooze black journalists and the like) it is abundantly clear that Trump has absolutely no regrets whatsoever about running a ticket with two white guys -- one of them a literal neckbeard. You keep telling yourself that.

    Hey, how come Vance hasn't wisecracked about cat ladies recently? I hear that kind of "negging" from neckbeard types really turns the women on, but for some reason, it doesn't seem to have worked for him. Who could have foreseen that?

    Oh, well, I'm sure the Trump campaign's other efforts to "diversify" his appeal will be a home run, as I've noted elsewhere. If nothing else, they'll appeal to black women with 6 or 7 webbed noodle-fingers who are missing a couple of toes. We wouldn't want to forget about that important demographic.

    And if that doesn't work, he can resort to his usual pick-up line of late, which is to tell the women he's trying to entice into bed that they remind him of his daughter. That, and about $130K is evidently all one needs to get a woman who is "a lot like Ivanka" in the mood.

    Replies: @Curle, @HA

    but for some reason, it doesn’t seem to have worked for him. Who could have foreseen that?

    Thanks for magnifying Tribal media memes (sarc off). You imagining you know what is or isn’t working and in what way is probably your first mistake. Dilettantes are forever insisting on democratizing expertise. The cat lady comments were done on purpose and may have already achieved their purpose.

    •�Replies: @HA
    @Curle

    "Thanks for magnifying Tribal media memes..."

    He's nagging cat ladies and I'm the one magnifying tribal whatever? Talk about low effort...it's like you're not even trying.

    "You imagining you know what is or isn’t working..."

    Unlike you and your unsourced dismissal of anything problematic for your orange leader, I have cited my sources and have stuck with the ones that are, if anything, more favorable to him (e.g. Silver, who for months was claiming Trump had a distinct advantage). But a sudden diminution of whining about cat-ladies, pretending that Kamala only came out as black 2 years ago or whatever, not to mention flat-footed attempts to reach out to black journalists (which allegedly led to death threats to uppity black women by some of his grumpier sycophants) tell me he's sensing a change in the winds and it worries him -- and if I'm right about that, then good for him. It means he's at least trying to respond and work his way through a changing situation. It means he's not as stupid as his all-is-well blackslappers like you who refuse to consider anything outside their safe spaces.

    Replies: @Curle
  410. @Mike Tre
    @Steve Sailer

    So when Jim Crow was abolished the Southern economy got better? Why?

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Curle, @AnotherDad

    So when Jim Crow was abolished the Southern economy got better? Why?

    Air Conditioning

    •�Replies: @Mike Tre
    @AnotherDad

    Yep that's right! When you can't actually defend the nonsense your hero states, you deflect with snark. I guess all the "Separation!" stuff is an act.
    , @OilcanFloyd
    @AnotherDad


    Air Conditioning
    Air conditioning brought transplants south, but southerners were acclimated. Working outside is still hot.
    , @deep anonymous
    @AnotherDad

    Great point. In another thread a few month ago Reg Caesar posted two Electoral College maps for comparison, one from IIRC 2020 and the other from around 1928 or so. One of the things that jumped out about the 1928 map was that Florida had something like 6 or 8 electoral votes, i.e., it was a small state. Today it's the third most populous state in the Union.
  411. @AnotherDad
    @Mike Tre


    So when Jim Crow was abolished the Southern economy got better? Why?
    Air Conditioning

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @OilcanFloyd, @deep anonymous

    Yep that’s right! When you can’t actually defend the nonsense your hero states, you deflect with snark. I guess all the “Separation!” stuff is an act.

  412. @Curle
    @Corvinus

    C’mon. Give us the ethnic and income distribution. Having actually attended a 50/50 black/white mixed school I bet I understand how to interpret your ‘things going fine’ comment.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    It’s amusing any of you expect honesty from this troll. You don’t even realize every time you reply to him, he wins.

    •�Agree: William Badwhite
  413. HA says:
    @Curle
    @HA


    but for some reason, it doesn’t seem to have worked for him. Who could have foreseen that?
    Thanks for magnifying Tribal media memes (sarc off). You imagining you know what is or isn’t working and in what way is probably your first mistake. Dilettantes are forever insisting on democratizing expertise. The cat lady comments were done on purpose and may have already achieved their purpose.

    Replies: @HA

    “Thanks for magnifying Tribal media memes…”

    He’s nagging cat ladies and I’m the one magnifying tribal whatever? Talk about low effort…it’s like you’re not even trying.

    “You imagining you know what is or isn’t working…”

    Unlike you and your unsourced dismissal of anything problematic for your orange leader, I have cited my sources and have stuck with the ones that are, if anything, more favorable to him (e.g. Silver, who for months was claiming Trump had a distinct advantage). But a sudden diminution of whining about cat-ladies, pretending that Kamala only came out as black 2 years ago or whatever, not to mention flat-footed attempts to reach out to black journalists (which allegedly led to death threats to uppity black women by some of his grumpier sycophants) tell me he’s sensing a change in the winds and it worries him — and if I’m right about that, then good for him. It means he’s at least trying to respond and work his way through a changing situation. It means he’s not as stupid as his all-is-well blackslappers like you who refuse to consider anything outside their safe spaces.

    •�Replies: @Curle
    @HA


    your unsourced dismissal
    Like I said, dilettantes on the internet. You imagine the ‘sources’ ahead of the election are in on secret intel and strategies and sharing it. They aren’t.

    The world of political strategizing is a complete black box for the vast majority of people, media people especially. There’s no reason you’d have a useful ‘source.’ You’re just blathering mindlessly on the internet.

    Replies: @HA
  414. @AnotherDad
    @Mike Tre


    So when Jim Crow was abolished the Southern economy got better? Why?
    Air Conditioning

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @OilcanFloyd, @deep anonymous

    Air Conditioning

    Air conditioning brought transplants south, but southerners were acclimated. Working outside is still hot.

  415. HA says:
    @epebble
    @HA

    Shooting a wayward dog is far less consequential, politically, than pissing off majority of voters. JD has shown he can insert more than one foot in his mouth. He also seems to have annoyed some MAGA purists by his choice of spouse. Noem wouldn't have been such a heavy albatross around Trump's neck.

    Replies: @HA

    “Shooting a wayward dog is far less consequential…”

    I dunno. Having your daughter come home from school and ask “Hey, where’s Cricket?” sounds to me like the makings of a pretty dark SNL skit.

    And maybe I’m more of a dog lover than most, but a purported “Family Values” adulteress who is also a boastful dog-killer is not someone who I think is going to broaden Trump’s base, once she’s put through the wringer. I don’t know if Vance was better or worse, all in all, but I do think that in general, you should wait for your opponent to declare a candidate before proceeding to rip him or her to shreds, otherwise, you just give the enemy the option of a free do-over.

    I will note that Trump’s advisers seem to have been savvier in that respect. If they do have dirt against Kelly or Shapiro, they haven’t released it yet. I’m betting they’re saving that until after the pick is confirmed.

    •�Replies: @epebble
    @HA

    Having your daughter come home from school and ask “Hey, where’s Cricket?”

    When our pet died, we didn't want to tell our then young child. We just acted as if it ran away. He got over it fairly quickly; what with freedom and all being fashionable.
  416. @HA
    @Curle

    "Thanks for magnifying Tribal media memes..."

    He's nagging cat ladies and I'm the one magnifying tribal whatever? Talk about low effort...it's like you're not even trying.

    "You imagining you know what is or isn’t working..."

    Unlike you and your unsourced dismissal of anything problematic for your orange leader, I have cited my sources and have stuck with the ones that are, if anything, more favorable to him (e.g. Silver, who for months was claiming Trump had a distinct advantage). But a sudden diminution of whining about cat-ladies, pretending that Kamala only came out as black 2 years ago or whatever, not to mention flat-footed attempts to reach out to black journalists (which allegedly led to death threats to uppity black women by some of his grumpier sycophants) tell me he's sensing a change in the winds and it worries him -- and if I'm right about that, then good for him. It means he's at least trying to respond and work his way through a changing situation. It means he's not as stupid as his all-is-well blackslappers like you who refuse to consider anything outside their safe spaces.

    Replies: @Curle

    your unsourced dismissal

    Like I said, dilettantes on the internet. You imagine the ‘sources’ ahead of the election are in on secret intel and strategies and sharing it. They aren’t.

    The world of political strategizing is a complete black box for the vast majority of people, media people especially. There’s no reason you’d have a useful ‘source.’ You’re just blathering mindlessly on the internet.

    •�Replies: @HA
    @Curle

    "You imagine the ‘sources’ ahead of the election are in on secret intel and strategies and sharing it."

    I imagine no such thing. I know it feels good to smack down your little straw men (and I can tell you really like using words like "dilettante", so I'll do you one better and say it must give you a little frisson of glee or something), but try and deal with what I said without twisting it into one of those conspiracies you fanboys are known for. You're just projecting the idiocy of your own side onto others when you do that, and it's more transparent than you seem to think.

    When I said "the Democrats" should have done this or that, it was a general catch-all. It doesn't mean there's a side office leased from the Elders of Zion in which some Rothschild-approved lackey of ZOG (be it Schumer, or Zients, or even perhaps Biden himself when he isn't napping) dictates what all Democrats do and don't do about "secret intel and strategies". Again, that's you stuffing straw men with your lurid fantasies. If that were the case they WOULD have delayed dishing any dirt on Noem. Alas, she was just too chock-full of dirt, what with the alleged family-values adultery and the (I'm gonna say it) "weird" animal snuff fetishes ( I mean, a lot of read Old Yeller too, at one point, but most of us never had a domination kink so large that we had to do some twisted LARP of the ending). And so it couldn't be suppressed.

    However much of a dilettante you take me to be, I'm going to speculate that the very fact that it's taking so long for Harris to decide a VP means that both Kelly and Shapiro (and whoever else she has in mind) have some serious drawbacks that will likely come out if they're chosen but in that case the dirt hasn't yet dribbled onto the public domain.

    Replies: @Curle
  417. @HA
    @James B. Shearer

    "Also Ukrainian attacks deep in Russia are probably counter productive in that they have little military effect..."

    If they're bombing oil/gas/weapons depots, then regardless of where in Russia they are located, they most definitely do have a military effect. Unlike the Russians, the Ukrainians have thus far aimed their weapons at strategic targets. That's partly because Russia has to resort to scrounging up dilapidated old-school weaponry, but that's not an excuse by which they get to weasel out of responsibility for the children's cancer hospitals and the like that they bomb.

    One could argue that focusing the weaponry on the western Black Sea areas that Russia has tried to take away from Ukraine is even more important, and is less likely to kill Russian citizens, but the Ukrainians have already made that largely uninhabitable for Russian seacraft.

    Replies: @James B. Shearer

    “…Unlike the Russians, the Ukrainians have thus far aimed their weapons at strategic targets. That’s partly because Russia has to resort to scrounging up dilapidated old-school weaponry, but that’s not an excuse by which they get to weasel out of responsibility for the children’s cancer hospitals and the like that they bomb.”

    So how do the Russians compare to the Israelis in terms of avoiding civilian casualties?

  418. @HA
    @epebble

    "Shooting a wayward dog is far less consequential..."

    I dunno. Having your daughter come home from school and ask "Hey, where's Cricket?" sounds to me like the makings of a pretty dark SNL skit.

    And maybe I'm more of a dog lover than most, but a purported "Family Values" adulteress who is also a boastful dog-killer is not someone who I think is going to broaden Trump's base, once she's put through the wringer. I don't know if Vance was better or worse, all in all, but I do think that in general, you should wait for your opponent to declare a candidate before proceeding to rip him or her to shreds, otherwise, you just give the enemy the option of a free do-over.

    I will note that Trump's advisers seem to have been savvier in that respect. If they do have dirt against Kelly or Shapiro, they haven't released it yet. I'm betting they're saving that until after the pick is confirmed.

    Replies: @epebble

    Having your daughter come home from school and ask “Hey, where’s Cricket?”

    When our pet died, we didn’t want to tell our then young child. We just acted as if it ran away. He got over it fairly quickly; what with freedom and all being fashionable.

  419. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Steve Sailer

    The South is a gigantic failure all unto itself; whether it would have failed better with Blacks and Whites failing together or apart, is the topic of a sci-fi novel that nobody would read.

    There's all kinds of reasons to speculate about Southern backwardness. I have my own theories, which are non-scientific, and I invite any and all to tear them apart...

    -- It's just the damn weather. Who could live in that much heat and humidity? Plus, never having to dress or prepare for snowstorms probably stifles your brain in some way.

    -- It's the churches. The South is full of crackpot podunk rinky-dink churches, spouting whatever Protestant nonsense the local retards want to hear. In the north, the Catholics, the Jews, the Methodists, the Lutherans, the Episcopals, the Presbyterians all had a formalized magisterium and a scholarly tradition and a hermeneutics to back them up and teach from recognized authority. Not some Baptist cretin yawping about anything in the world he felt like. As a Catholic kid, I remember being taken one time on an "inter-faith" field trip to visit a Protestant church, and even as a kid I felt sorry for them and thought, Wow, these people are retarded. Of course now all the churches are woke-destroyed, I'm just talking about past historical fabric.

    -- It's the cooking. It's very tasty but it probably rots your brain as well as your arteries. Also the long history of pellagra and other forms of malnutrition prolly left its mark.

    -- It's the sort-of semi-medieval code of courtesy and politesse. Very charming, to be sure, but perhaps locked emotionally and intellectually into a prior era.

    -- It's plain old Northern cultural chauvinism: Robert Penn Warren is a great poet, so is James Dickey, but you won't get the Yankees to admit that.

    -- It's the loss of the old aristocracy that gave us Jefferson and Washington and so on.

    Eh, who knows? But I really really doubt that Jim Crow, whatever else you might like to say about it, caused much of a developmental lag.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @rebel yell, @mc23

    I believe Dan Rather, an old Texas boy, said the growth of Texas was unimaginable with out air conditioning.

  420. anonymous[282] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Colin Wright
    @deep anonymous


    '...Their primary goal is to help ensure that their clients never have to go to court to settle a dispute.'
    And you don' wanna. Court is a crapshoot. I've won unreasonably, lost unreasonably, and actually had verdicts that made sense.

    ...but there is nothing quite like sitting in Small Claims Court with a case that actually isn't all that small and reflecting on the probable acumen of someone who is a small claims court judge at sixty. It's like realizing the guy about to operate on you appears to be drunk.

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @anonymous

    I didn’t realize you’re an attorney either. Remember “Trial” magazine (sorta like Golf Digest for lawyers)? Around 1990 there was an article by a veteran trial horse in Beverly Hills. He said he lost his first five jury trials and thought he was in the wrong business. In his final loss, he polled the jury about why they voted as they did, and it turned out that they didn’t understand the meaning of a very common word, which I now forget. He wrote, “As soon as I started talking to jurors as if they were 6th graders, I won all my cases.”

  421. HA says:
    @Curle
    @HA


    your unsourced dismissal
    Like I said, dilettantes on the internet. You imagine the ‘sources’ ahead of the election are in on secret intel and strategies and sharing it. They aren’t.

    The world of political strategizing is a complete black box for the vast majority of people, media people especially. There’s no reason you’d have a useful ‘source.’ You’re just blathering mindlessly on the internet.

    Replies: @HA

    “You imagine the ‘sources’ ahead of the election are in on secret intel and strategies and sharing it.”

    I imagine no such thing. I know it feels good to smack down your little straw men (and I can tell you really like using words like “dilettante”, so I’ll do you one better and say it must give you a little frisson of glee or something), but try and deal with what I said without twisting it into one of those conspiracies you fanboys are known for. You’re just projecting the idiocy of your own side onto others when you do that, and it’s more transparent than you seem to think.

    When I said “the Democrats” should have done this or that, it was a general catch-all. It doesn’t mean there’s a side office leased from the Elders of Zion in which some Rothschild-approved lackey of ZOG (be it Schumer, or Zients, or even perhaps Biden himself when he isn’t napping) dictates what all Democrats do and don’t do about “secret intel and strategies”. Again, that’s you stuffing straw men with your lurid fantasies. If that were the case they WOULD have delayed dishing any dirt on Noem. Alas, she was just too chock-full of dirt, what with the alleged family-values adultery and the (I’m gonna say it) “weird” animal snuff fetishes ( I mean, a lot of read Old Yeller too, at one point, but most of us never had a domination kink so large that we had to do some twisted LARP of the ending). And so it couldn’t be suppressed.

    However much of a dilettante you take me to be, I’m going to speculate that the very fact that it’s taking so long for Harris to decide a VP means that both Kelly and Shapiro (and whoever else she has in mind) have some serious drawbacks that will likely come out if they’re chosen but in that case the dirt hasn’t yet dribbled onto the public domain.

    •�Replies: @Curle
    @HA

    You seem to occupy a universe where you think that two guys throwing shit against the wall using intel from unreliable sources (the media) constitutes some kind of authority. Aside from being inherently pathetic I’m going to guess you are immature age-wise and you haven’t learned that there are things that can only be learned by experience and access two things you’ve demonstrated you don’t possess.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @HA
  422. @AnotherDad
    @Mike Tre


    So when Jim Crow was abolished the Southern economy got better? Why?
    Air Conditioning

    Replies: @Mike Tre, @OilcanFloyd, @deep anonymous

    Great point. In another thread a few month ago Reg Caesar posted two Electoral College maps for comparison, one from IIRC 2020 and the other from around 1928 or so. One of the things that jumped out about the 1928 map was that Florida had something like 6 or 8 electoral votes, i.e., it was a small state. Today it’s the third most populous state in the Union.

  423. @HA
    @rebel yell

    "Well, the main thing that makes further discussion pointless is when someone resorts to petty name calling, such as 'Putinista'”.

    Do you prefer Putinist instead of the feminized version? You do seem to have a lot of issues with that side of the gender line:

    ... you admitted you are a woman, which explains your drama queen emotional style...

    you’ve indicated to us that you are a woman, [so] I understand why you aren’t able to control your emotions better.

    This nasty sanctimonious woman in fact hates the young lower class ...

    his face like an old woman. What a sheep.

    If you were the ugliest woman alive...

    Look at the dour old Scandinavian woman in the back...

    So creepy. What's causing all that, I wonder? The little blue pills aren't doing it for you any more, or is the fact that you unable to even get into a situation where you might need them making you complain about sour grapes. Or else, do you just take umbrage at name-calling when someone other than you resorts to it?

    Replies: @rebel yell

    Hmm… you searched years of comments and found six with negative references to women (two of them about you). Another commentor called you a spiteful wife the other day, so I’m not the only one who has noticed your temperament.
    The complaint against you, HA, is the nasty personality you bring to every argument. Your over-the-top emotionalism is annoying, and yes, what we would expect from a teen-age girl. I only throw spitballs at you occasionally in response to your constant taunting of everyone else.
    LOL

    •�Replies: @HA
    @rebel yell

    "Hmm… you searched years of comments and found six with negative references to women (two of them about you)."

    I searched for your usage of the word "woman" -- see the first link. If you want to accuse me of omitting a bunch of stuff that was as laudatory as the stuff that I cited was bitter and creepy, feel free to add what I overlooked.

    "Another commentor called you a spiteful wife the other day, so I’m not the only one who has noticed your temperament."

    Gosh, you mean there is more than one Putin-fanboy blowhard on Unz who harbors deep insecurities regarding his anatomy or masculinity which lead to outbursts about ugly or spiteful or over-dramatic women whenever he's made a fool of in the comment sections? What are the odds? On a site like Unz-dot-com, that's like lightning striking twice!

    "The complaint against you, HA, is the nasty personality you bring to every argument."

    No, face it. The complaint against me is that I pushback on your fanboy idiocy and regularly rip it to shreds. And as for nastiness, well, let's recap some of those comments I cited: "you are a woman, which explains your drama queen emotional style... [so] I understand why you aren’t able to control your emotions better...nasty sanctimonious woman...face like an old woman....If you were the ugliest woman alive…Look at the dour old Scandinavian woman..."

    Until you can find me all your loving benevolent hymns of praise to the female of the species that you imply I somehow omitted, I have to conclude that you're in no position to lecture others on the nastiness of how they express themselves. And if you don't my personality, that "Ignore Commentator" button was made for you, I suggest you use it.
  424. I thought this is a joke. But it is not!

    Trump says he has ‘no choice’ but to support electric vehicles because Elon Musk ‘endorsed me very strongly’

    Trump said at a rally on Saturday that he supports electric vehicles because Elon Musk endorsed him.

    However, he also criticized EV infrastructure and Biden’s EV mandates.

    Musk has publicly backed Trump recently but denied a rumored $45 million donation.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-electric-vehicles-elon-musk-endorsement-2024-8

  425. @HA
    @Curle

    "You imagine the ‘sources’ ahead of the election are in on secret intel and strategies and sharing it."

    I imagine no such thing. I know it feels good to smack down your little straw men (and I can tell you really like using words like "dilettante", so I'll do you one better and say it must give you a little frisson of glee or something), but try and deal with what I said without twisting it into one of those conspiracies you fanboys are known for. You're just projecting the idiocy of your own side onto others when you do that, and it's more transparent than you seem to think.

    When I said "the Democrats" should have done this or that, it was a general catch-all. It doesn't mean there's a side office leased from the Elders of Zion in which some Rothschild-approved lackey of ZOG (be it Schumer, or Zients, or even perhaps Biden himself when he isn't napping) dictates what all Democrats do and don't do about "secret intel and strategies". Again, that's you stuffing straw men with your lurid fantasies. If that were the case they WOULD have delayed dishing any dirt on Noem. Alas, she was just too chock-full of dirt, what with the alleged family-values adultery and the (I'm gonna say it) "weird" animal snuff fetishes ( I mean, a lot of read Old Yeller too, at one point, but most of us never had a domination kink so large that we had to do some twisted LARP of the ending). And so it couldn't be suppressed.

    However much of a dilettante you take me to be, I'm going to speculate that the very fact that it's taking so long for Harris to decide a VP means that both Kelly and Shapiro (and whoever else she has in mind) have some serious drawbacks that will likely come out if they're chosen but in that case the dirt hasn't yet dribbled onto the public domain.

    Replies: @Curle

    You seem to occupy a universe where you think that two guys throwing shit against the wall using intel from unreliable sources (the media) constitutes some kind of authority. Aside from being inherently pathetic I’m going to guess you are immature age-wise and you haven’t learned that there are things that can only be learned by experience and access two things you’ve demonstrated you don’t possess.

    •�Replies: @rebel yell
    @Curle


    I’m going to guess you are immature age-wise
    I guessed that he was a woman. He/she got very upset about that. LOL

    Replies: @HA
    , @HA
    @Curle

    "You seem to occupy a universe where you think that two guys throwing sh!t against the wall using intel from unreliable sources (the media) constitutes some kind of authority."

    Immature? What, is 'dilettante' suddenly too frou-frou for your tastes? And we're no longer talking about "secret intel and strategies", but rather, you've downshifted to "intel from unreliable sources"?

    Look, I don't know how to break this to you, but ALL intel -- whether secret or available in mainstream media sources or anywhere in between -- has error bounds, non-infinite signal/noise ratios and other inherent "unreliability" factors to deal with. Whatever eventually emerges from your chaotic brain is no different. And however immature my universe is, it's not based on the fevered conspiracy theories which animate your straw man arguments. That's far beyond immature and gets into the realm of psychotic.

    Here's an example of what I'm talking about. Guess who fell off his meds and wrote the following defense of Black Hebrew Israelite fan and flat-earther (or at least round-earther agnostic) Kylie Irving?

    This morning on FOX considerable time was devoted to an Ingsoc mandated (no doubt) mea culpa by Kylie Irving for his latest blasphemy against the one true Ingsoc God: stopping the increase in power of those who would not defer to Jewish control (like evil Putin). ...It is, we are constantly being told through Ingsoc proverbs delivered through the media, our common obligation as Americans to express revulsion or scorn for those who would compromise the legitimacy of Jewish power even when that compromise occurs in some distant land...
    Want to take a guess? It was YOU! The call is from inside the house! That being the case, spare us your lectures about reliable sources and rock solid insight and anything similar. Get your own house in order first. And maybe stay off of Fox News if their reporting catapults you into the bizarro-verse on a regular basis.

    Replies: @Curle
  426. @Curle
    @HA

    You seem to occupy a universe where you think that two guys throwing shit against the wall using intel from unreliable sources (the media) constitutes some kind of authority. Aside from being inherently pathetic I’m going to guess you are immature age-wise and you haven’t learned that there are things that can only be learned by experience and access two things you’ve demonstrated you don’t possess.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @HA

    I’m going to guess you are immature age-wise

    I guessed that he was a woman. He/she got very upset about that. LOL

    •�Agree: Curle
    •�Replies: @HA
    @rebel yell

    "I guessed that he was a woman. He/she got very upset about that. LOL..."

    No, quit being a lying scumbag. You didn't just guess that I was a woman. You claimed that I admitted I was a woman, i.e.

    On that thread you admitted you are a woman
    That is what I take issue with because, in fact, I did not admit any such thing. Do I care if you like to fantasize about my gender? Not particularly. Sure, it's certainly creepy, and again indicates some deep issues about women (or being dominated by women) that you harbor, but you run into that a lot of that kind of thing when dealing with Putin fanboys.

    The fact remains, I opt for anonymity here, for some very good reasons. Until that changes, you're free to fantasize all you want about me -- my age, my gender, my location, my source of income, etc. But when you outwardly lie and claim I admitted something I didn't, then yeah, I might just step in and yet again demonstrate what a lying little weasel you are.

    Should you want to wipe the egg off your face and try again, make an effort to get it right next time. And do avoid using phrases like "LOL" -- your agree-buddy Curle gets really upset when people show signs of immaturity. Then again, I'm gonna guess that in your case, he's gonna let it slide. Talk about immature.
  427. HA says:
    @Curle
    @HA

    You seem to occupy a universe where you think that two guys throwing shit against the wall using intel from unreliable sources (the media) constitutes some kind of authority. Aside from being inherently pathetic I’m going to guess you are immature age-wise and you haven’t learned that there are things that can only be learned by experience and access two things you’ve demonstrated you don’t possess.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @HA

    “You seem to occupy a universe where you think that two guys throwing sh!t against the wall using intel from unreliable sources (the media) constitutes some kind of authority.”

    Immature? What, is ‘dilettante’ suddenly too frou-frou for your tastes? And we’re no longer talking about “secret intel and strategies”, but rather, you’ve downshifted to “intel from unreliable sources”?

    Look, I don’t know how to break this to you, but ALL intel — whether secret or available in mainstream media sources or anywhere in between — has error bounds, non-infinite signal/noise ratios and other inherent “unreliability” factors to deal with. Whatever eventually emerges from your chaotic brain is no different. And however immature my universe is, it’s not based on the fevered conspiracy theories which animate your straw man arguments. That’s far beyond immature and gets into the realm of psychotic.

    Here’s an example of what I’m talking about. Guess who fell off his meds and wrote the following defense of Black Hebrew Israelite fan and flat-earther (or at least round-earther agnostic) Kylie Irving?

    This morning on FOX considerable time was devoted to an Ingsoc mandated (no doubt) mea culpa by Kylie Irving for his latest blasphemy against the one true Ingsoc God: stopping the increase in power of those who would not defer to Jewish control (like evil Putin). …It is, we are constantly being told through Ingsoc proverbs delivered through the media, our common obligation as Americans to express revulsion or scorn for those who would compromise the legitimacy of Jewish power even when that compromise occurs in some distant land…

    Want to take a guess? It was YOU! The call is from inside the house! That being the case, spare us your lectures about reliable sources and rock solid insight and anything similar. Get your own house in order first. And maybe stay off of Fox News if their reporting catapults you into the bizarro-verse on a regular basis.

    •�Replies: @Curle
    @HA


    it’s not based on the fevered conspiracy theories which animate your straw man arguments.
    There’s no straw man in here, which you once again demonstrate your inability to apply words in an appropriate context. But, that’s pretty much par for the course with you. The discussion here is your inability to grasp your own incompetence while making broad claims about a field, political strategy, that is intentionally opaque and where practitioners don’t give their secrets away to journalists or anybody else because their secrets are their income. You won’t learn about winning elections by watching the West Wing or reading the internet but by apprenticeship with a successful practitioner, something your comments demonstrate you haven’t done. And as your failed prognostications regarding Ukraine demonstrated you aren’t all that good at inferential reasoning either.

    Replies: @HA
  428. HA says:
    @rebel yell
    @HA

    Hmm... you searched years of comments and found six with negative references to women (two of them about you). Another commentor called you a spiteful wife the other day, so I'm not the only one who has noticed your temperament.
    The complaint against you, HA, is the nasty personality you bring to every argument. Your over-the-top emotionalism is annoying, and yes, what we would expect from a teen-age girl. I only throw spitballs at you occasionally in response to your constant taunting of everyone else.
    LOL

    Replies: @HA

    “Hmm… you searched years of comments and found six with negative references to women (two of them about you).”

    I searched for your usage of the word “woman” — see the first link. If you want to accuse me of omitting a bunch of stuff that was as laudatory as the stuff that I cited was bitter and creepy, feel free to add what I overlooked.

    “Another commentor called you a spiteful wife the other day, so I’m not the only one who has noticed your temperament.”

    Gosh, you mean there is more than one Putin-fanboy blowhard on Unz who harbors deep insecurities regarding his anatomy or masculinity which lead to outbursts about ugly or spiteful or over-dramatic women whenever he’s made a fool of in the comment sections? What are the odds? On a site like Unz-dot-com, that’s like lightning striking twice!

    “The complaint against you, HA, is the nasty personality you bring to every argument.”

    No, face it. The complaint against me is that I pushback on your fanboy idiocy and regularly rip it to shreds. And as for nastiness, well, let’s recap some of those comments I cited: “you are a woman, which explains your drama queen emotional style… [so] I understand why you aren’t able to control your emotions better…nasty sanctimonious woman…face like an old woman….If you were the ugliest woman alive…Look at the dour old Scandinavian woman…”

    Until you can find me all your loving benevolent hymns of praise to the female of the species that you imply I somehow omitted, I have to conclude that you’re in no position to lecture others on the nastiness of how they express themselves. And if you don’t my personality, that “Ignore Commentator” button was made for you, I suggest you use it.

  429. @HA
    @Curle

    "You seem to occupy a universe where you think that two guys throwing sh!t against the wall using intel from unreliable sources (the media) constitutes some kind of authority."

    Immature? What, is 'dilettante' suddenly too frou-frou for your tastes? And we're no longer talking about "secret intel and strategies", but rather, you've downshifted to "intel from unreliable sources"?

    Look, I don't know how to break this to you, but ALL intel -- whether secret or available in mainstream media sources or anywhere in between -- has error bounds, non-infinite signal/noise ratios and other inherent "unreliability" factors to deal with. Whatever eventually emerges from your chaotic brain is no different. And however immature my universe is, it's not based on the fevered conspiracy theories which animate your straw man arguments. That's far beyond immature and gets into the realm of psychotic.

    Here's an example of what I'm talking about. Guess who fell off his meds and wrote the following defense of Black Hebrew Israelite fan and flat-earther (or at least round-earther agnostic) Kylie Irving?

    This morning on FOX considerable time was devoted to an Ingsoc mandated (no doubt) mea culpa by Kylie Irving for his latest blasphemy against the one true Ingsoc God: stopping the increase in power of those who would not defer to Jewish control (like evil Putin). ...It is, we are constantly being told through Ingsoc proverbs delivered through the media, our common obligation as Americans to express revulsion or scorn for those who would compromise the legitimacy of Jewish power even when that compromise occurs in some distant land...
    Want to take a guess? It was YOU! The call is from inside the house! That being the case, spare us your lectures about reliable sources and rock solid insight and anything similar. Get your own house in order first. And maybe stay off of Fox News if their reporting catapults you into the bizarro-verse on a regular basis.

    Replies: @Curle

    it’s not based on the fevered conspiracy theories which animate your straw man arguments.

    There’s no straw man in here, which you once again demonstrate your inability to apply words in an appropriate context. But, that’s pretty much par for the course with you. The discussion here is your inability to grasp your own incompetence while making broad claims about a field, political strategy, that is intentionally opaque and where practitioners don’t give their secrets away to journalists or anybody else because their secrets are their income. You won’t learn about winning elections by watching the West Wing or reading the internet but by apprenticeship with a successful practitioner, something your comments demonstrate you haven’t done. And as your failed prognostications regarding Ukraine demonstrated you aren’t all that good at inferential reasoning either.

    •�Replies: @HA
    @Curle

    There’s no straw man in here,...

    I can see you're a little slow, so let's go the pedantic route. When I said "the Democrats should have waited", I did not mean to imply that there is some centralized headquarters that dictates what they can do and when they can release dirt on people as opposed to waiting. But you went ahead and stuck that in on your own (perhaps because, like most fanboys, you can only make sense of the world through ZOG-related conspiracy theories). That ridiculous distortion thereby transformed my original argument into a strawman.

    Is that a little clearer now? Is there anything else you're really slow picking up on that requires me having to mansplain it for you like you're a 6-year-old?

    "And as your failed prognostications regarding Ukraine demonstrated..."

    Ah, perhaps now we're getting somewhere. Which "failed prognostications" do you mean, specifically? Surely, you must have some in mind. Moreover, my comments are an open book that Unz has allowed you to search on -- maybe if you search on "predict" or "prognosticate" you can find it that way, or else forget about that and just pull out the comment in question from that vast storehouse of knowledge next to the portion of your brain where all those fevered conspiracy theories reside. (Stay away from the latter -- we've already been exposed to enough of those.)

    The only thing I myself remember prognosticating about Ukraine is that without Western aid, it will lose (kinda like Stalin admits the Soviet Union would have lost in WWII had we not provided it with aid when Hitler attacked). That's in fact the primary motivation for my urging us and the rest of the West to lend a hand.

    Is that the failed prognostication you had in mind? If not, do be specific and provide us with whatever it is you specifically remember.

    If you cannot do that, then alas, you have once again been exposed as a lowlife fabulist who pulls things out of his fevered brain (or some other body part a few feet lower) whenever reality just doesn't do it for you.
  430. @OilcanFloyd
    @Curle


    My grandfather was gassed in that war and I never got the impression he became a fan of Wilson’s for bringing that about and I spent a lot of time with him as a child.
    I've never met a combat veteran who spoke fondly of war. They didn't talk of war at all, for the most part. The ones I knew told me to stay out of the military.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    When I was growing up my father, who was a Navy vet but thankfully not an actual combat vet, used to put it to me this way:

    “The military can sometimes be very useful for building a young man’s character and keeping him out of trouble… if he doesn’t have any other resources. But thankfully for you, unlike me, you’ve had a good family and good resources — so in other words, DON’T JOIN THE MILITARY.”

    •�Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    @The Germ Theory of Disease


    “The military can sometimes be very useful for building a young man’s character and keeping him out of trouble…
    I was just told that the military doesn't care about boys like me, and there is nothing good about war. It was all honest and true advice.
  431. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @OilcanFloyd

    When I was growing up my father, who was a Navy vet but thankfully not an actual combat vet, used to put it to me this way:

    "The military can sometimes be very useful for building a young man's character and keeping him out of trouble... if he doesn't have any other resources. But thankfully for you, unlike me, you've had a good family and good resources -- so in other words, DON'T JOIN THE MILITARY."

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd

    “The military can sometimes be very useful for building a young man’s character and keeping him out of trouble…

    I was just told that the military doesn’t care about boys like me, and there is nothing good about war. It was all honest and true advice.

  432. HA says:
    @Curle
    @HA


    it’s not based on the fevered conspiracy theories which animate your straw man arguments.
    There’s no straw man in here, which you once again demonstrate your inability to apply words in an appropriate context. But, that’s pretty much par for the course with you. The discussion here is your inability to grasp your own incompetence while making broad claims about a field, political strategy, that is intentionally opaque and where practitioners don’t give their secrets away to journalists or anybody else because their secrets are their income. You won’t learn about winning elections by watching the West Wing or reading the internet but by apprenticeship with a successful practitioner, something your comments demonstrate you haven’t done. And as your failed prognostications regarding Ukraine demonstrated you aren’t all that good at inferential reasoning either.

    Replies: @HA

    There’s no straw man in here,…

    I can see you’re a little slow, so let’s go the pedantic route. When I said “the Democrats should have waited”, I did not mean to imply that there is some centralized headquarters that dictates what they can do and when they can release dirt on people as opposed to waiting. But you went ahead and stuck that in on your own (perhaps because, like most fanboys, you can only make sense of the world through ZOG-related conspiracy theories). That ridiculous distortion thereby transformed my original argument into a strawman.

    Is that a little clearer now? Is there anything else you’re really slow picking up on that requires me having to mansplain it for you like you’re a 6-year-old?

    “And as your failed prognostications regarding Ukraine demonstrated…”

    Ah, perhaps now we’re getting somewhere. Which “failed prognostications” do you mean, specifically? Surely, you must have some in mind. Moreover, my comments are an open book that Unz has allowed you to search on — maybe if you search on “predict” or “prognosticate” you can find it that way, or else forget about that and just pull out the comment in question from that vast storehouse of knowledge next to the portion of your brain where all those fevered conspiracy theories reside. (Stay away from the latter — we’ve already been exposed to enough of those.)

    The only thing I myself remember prognosticating about Ukraine is that without Western aid, it will lose (kinda like Stalin admits the Soviet Union would have lost in WWII had we not provided it with aid when Hitler attacked). That’s in fact the primary motivation for my urging us and the rest of the West to lend a hand.

    Is that the failed prognostication you had in mind? If not, do be specific and provide us with whatever it is you specifically remember.

    If you cannot do that, then alas, you have once again been exposed as a lowlife fabulist who pulls things out of his fevered brain (or some other body part a few feet lower) whenever reality just doesn’t do it for you.

  433. HA says:
    @rebel yell
    @Curle


    I’m going to guess you are immature age-wise
    I guessed that he was a woman. He/she got very upset about that. LOL

    Replies: @HA

    “I guessed that he was a woman. He/she got very upset about that. LOL…”

    No, quit being a lying scumbag. You didn’t just guess that I was a woman. You claimed that I admitted I was a woman, i.e.

    On that thread you admitted you are a woman

    That is what I take issue with because, in fact, I did not admit any such thing. Do I care if you like to fantasize about my gender? Not particularly. Sure, it’s certainly creepy, and again indicates some deep issues about women (or being dominated by women) that you harbor, but you run into that a lot of that kind of thing when dealing with Putin fanboys.

    The fact remains, I opt for anonymity here, for some very good reasons. Until that changes, you’re free to fantasize all you want about me — my age, my gender, my location, my source of income, etc. But when you outwardly lie and claim I admitted something I didn’t, then yeah, I might just step in and yet again demonstrate what a lying little weasel you are.

    Should you want to wipe the egg off your face and try again, make an effort to get it right next time. And do avoid using phrases like “LOL” — your agree-buddy Curle gets really upset when people show signs of immaturity. Then again, I’m gonna guess that in your case, he’s gonna let it slide. Talk about immature.

    •�LOL: rebel yell
  434. HA says:
    @HA
    @Curle

    "She’d be a ridiculously bad pick compared to Vance..."

    Yeah, based on his recent actions (attempting to schmooze black journalists and the like) it is abundantly clear that Trump has absolutely no regrets whatsoever about running a ticket with two white guys -- one of them a literal neckbeard. You keep telling yourself that.

    Hey, how come Vance hasn't wisecracked about cat ladies recently? I hear that kind of "negging" from neckbeard types really turns the women on, but for some reason, it doesn't seem to have worked for him. Who could have foreseen that?

    Oh, well, I'm sure the Trump campaign's other efforts to "diversify" his appeal will be a home run, as I've noted elsewhere. If nothing else, they'll appeal to black women with 6 or 7 webbed noodle-fingers who are missing a couple of toes. We wouldn't want to forget about that important demographic.

    And if that doesn't work, he can resort to his usual pick-up line of late, which is to tell the women he's trying to entice into bed that they remind him of his daughter. That, and about $130K is evidently all one needs to get a woman who is "a lot like Ivanka" in the mood.

    Replies: @Curle, @HA

    “Hey, how come Vance hasn’t wisecracked about cat ladies recently? “

    Oh, and just on cue, Vance’s handlers have come out with some fresh attempts at damage control regarding “childless cat ladies”.

    Usha Vance, wife of…Sen. JD Vance of Ohio, …said her husband’s “quip” intended to convey that U.S. policies do not do enough to provide the support families need.

    Yeah, because when you want to “convey” the need to help families, the best way to make it happen is to attack childless cat ladies. Just like those witch-hunts back in medieval times — I bet Usha thinks what they really meant to convey by all those burnings was a desire for more affordable day care. Or like when you want to push for more playgrounds and decide the best way to convey that is to run a hate-campaign against muscular dystrophy kids in wheelchairs.

    To be honest, it sounds a little fishy — and kind of desperate — to me. But I guess it’s just like when Vance said he thought Trump might be America’s Hitler and now he’s probably saying that what he really meant to convey by that was Trump only wanted to get the buses to run on time.

  435. HA says:
    @Gandydancer
    @HA


    First of all, Ukraine is not trying to “defeat” Russia.
    You are so full of shit that your eyes have turned completely brown. Among other things the stated objective of Ukrains is to regain control of Crimea and the Donbas and that's not happening without defeating Russia. Don't try to play stupid word games with me. Nazi Germany was DEFEATED in WWII and whether or not its opponents were righteously defending themselves is neither here nor there.

    Face it: you’re having to try and make hay of someone even the Democrats[ ]have disavowed. Why? Because that’s all you got: weak sauce.
    They only disavowed Brinton after he got caught stealing women's clothing at airports, not when he showed up in a dress and bright red lipstick. And, no, that's NOT the only "someone" I mentioned. Harris is STILL saying utterly weird things like ~"Admiral Levine is a woman".

    As to the pictured individual your link says,

    Henry, a major in the U.S. Army, came out as a trans woman in an interview with BuzzFeed News in 2015. Although that was a year before the Obama administration lifted the ban on out trans service members, Henry received permission to change their name and pronouns.
    Yes, Trump didn't fix this. All bark, no bite. But it was still OBAMA who weirdly allowed it.

    If blingy sneakers make money, no, it's not weird to sell them. It's weird to buy them, but that's not what Trump is doing. As I said, in comparison to Democrat weirdness you've got nothing.

    Replies: @HA

    “You are so full of sh!t that your eyes have turned completely brown.”

    You have quite the obsession about matters fecal, don’t you? You got a therapist working you through that? For now, maybe find some new metaphors.

    “Among other things the stated objective of Ukrains is to regain control of Crimea and the Donbas and that’s not happening without defeating Russia.”

    Oh, the strawmen just keep coming. Everybody has a starting position of stated objectives, and then at some point, the haggling begins. Do I really need to explain that? Russia’s stated position upon launching the war was to overthrow the “narcomaniacs” who usurped the Ukrainian presidency. That hasn’t gone too well. They’ve also mumbled about maybe getting Poland to act as a cat’s paw and take the remaining rump-Galicia portion so as to completely wipe out Ukraine, but no one (probably not even Orban) is dumb enough to accept an offer like that. And if their goal is having anything much remain of Donbass and Crimea that is of use to them, that’s dwindling away, too. At some point, there may not be worth much to either side. It still doesn’t mean that Moscow has to be defeated for Ukraine to survive and attain the kind of security arrangments that makes another Russian invasion unlikely (which is exactly what Putin has tellingly refused to offer them).

    “They only disavowed Brinton after he got caught stealing women’s clothing at airports, not when he showed up in a dress and bright red lipstick.”

    Yeah, and the pathetic thing about you is that you’d be OK with that, I suspect, were Brinton just the regular upstanding full-blooded American thief who did his pilfering in jeans and T-shirts (or orange hair and business suit). The dress outrages you more than the thievery.

    “…it was still OBAMA who weirdly allowed it.”

    Yeah, you’ll be blaming Johnson or FDR someone before long, the way you keep somersaulting back in time. The fact remains: Jenner, Henry — you got plenty of Brintonesque drama on your side of the fence, but unlike you, I’m gonna say the outright treason bugs me more than the pearls and the coiffure and the confusion. Our priorities differ that way.

  436. @epebble
    @Gandydancer

    It is not racist at all. But it lacks the shock value it had in 1988 coming from G HW Bush. Trump in 2024 has to user larger tonnage of TNT to cause any impact. Proof: the said ad is not even mentioned anywhere on the media unlike "she is not black" which has received good airtime. It is like heroin addiction, increasing dosage is needed for same effect. If he publishes a white paper saying my policy #34 will lead to 6.8% growth compared to my opponents plan that will lead to 1.7% growth, that will be ignored, though that is important. If he uses some uncivil language though, it will be widely reported.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    It is not racist at all. But it lacks the shock value it had in 1988 coming from G HW Bush. Trump in 2024 has to user larger tonnage of TNT to cause any impact. Proof: the said ad is not even mentioned anywhere on the media…

    That’s only proof that you Leftys can no longer get away with climbing up on chars, raising your skirts, and screaming “racist!” at any mention of the real state of affairs. NO TNT is or was involved, either in 2024 or 1988.

  437. @Frau Katze
    @Gandydancer

    Why shouldn’t Ukraine fire NATO missiles? Russia is the aggressor here. I thought you were one of the more reasonable commenters, not another Putinista. If you are, further discussion is pointless.

    Replies: @rebel yell, @James B. Shearer, @Gandydancer

    Whether or not Russia is “the aggressor” is irrelevant to the subject under discussion, which is whether NATO is flirting with Armageddon by, among other things, giving Ukraine NATO missiles, etc., to fire into Russia. Moral righteousness is no armor against Russia firing back.

  438. @HA
    @Gandydancer

    "No, what Medvedev ACTUALLY said, as you quoted it, is 'Attempts to restore Russia’s 1991 borders will lead only to one thing – a global war with Western countries…'”

    Cherry-pick all you want. Even you are gonna have trouble weaseling out of the rest of what I cited, e.g.:

    “Just imagine that the offensive… in tandem with NATO, succeeded and ended up with part of OUR land being taken away. Then WE would have to use nuclear weapons..."
    So you want to claim -- with a straight face -- that the "OUR" land in this case refers to Russian land, but as for the "WE", that can only refer to some grander collective? And what does China know about who is threatening who, given that they specifically singled out Russia in their rebuke?

    Sounds to me like you're the one playing games with GoogleTranslate, fanboy, though I think even that would be giving you too much credit. I'll stick with brain-dead, given that you yourself so tellingly introduced it into the conversation.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    While I did was point out that what you allege to be a transcript of what Medvedev said simply doesn’t parse and that I accordingly think it was corrupted either by the translator or by tendentious editing, but my main point was that Medvedev seemed to be stating a perfectly ordinary understanding of the way nuclear deterrence works and that your bizarre characterization of this as “[Medvedev is] actually pushing for nukes” is retarded. You may want to ignore this, but I’ll just keep repeating the point as long as you continue to evade addressing it. You’re a recidivist lying idiot jackass, but you’ll have to find a different forum if you want to get away with emitting such lying idiocies without rebuke.

    •�Replies: @HA
    @Gandydancer

    While I did was point out that what you allege to be a transcript of what Medvedev said simply doesn’t parse...

    The "OUR land" and "WE will have to use weapons" are easily parsable for anyone who isn't trying to obfuscate the obvious. If you can't grasp the "ordinary understanding" of that, appealing to ordinary understanding of anything else is hypocritical - or outright fantasy. And that being the case, any rebuke you could muster is going to be like the rest of your arguments -- weak sauce. But feel free to keep digging away blindly in the hopes of finding the occasional nut in spite of yourself.

    Replies: @Gandydancer
  439. @epebble
    @Gandydancer

    How else do you parse "I don’t want to say as to why. But a lot of people understand it"?

    1. She is a woman; So, Putin will "walk all over her"
    2. She is colored (+ woman); Same as 1.

    How are 1 & 2 not "based on her appearance"? That is how I understand it. What other ways of understanding are there?

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    How else do you parse “I don’t want to say as to why. But a lot of people understand it”?

    1. She is a woman; So, Putin will “walk all over her”
    2. She is colored (+ woman); Same as 1.

    How are 1 & 2 not “based on her appearance”? That is how I understand it. What other ways of understanding are there?

    When you allege a sentence must be about “appearance” and “woman” and “colored” when the sentence does not contain anything remotely like those words then you’re not engaged in “parsing”, you’re engaged in lying.

    Maybe what Trump is saying is simply that Putin would see her as an obvious weakling simply because he is familiar with her history of non-performance.

    Kruschev famously concluded that JFK was a weakling before the Cuban Missile Crisis never mind that JFK was neither a woman nor a colored person.

    As it happens I’m a direct kind of guy and I wish Trump would be the same and have simply said in plain language whatever it was that he had to say, but I’m not a politician and Trump is a successful one so I don’t assume he needs direction from me to choose the right level of ambiguity for it to work for him. But just because he is being ambiguous doesn’t give you license to say that he said something he didn’t actually say.

    •�Replies: @epebble
    @Gandydancer

    Oh, come on, I am not a child. If he wanted to say she is a 'weakling', he would have said it without the slightest hesitation. All that elliptical talk was needed because saying it directly would have upset many people. This is what dog whistling is for.

    Replies: @Gandydancer
  440. HA says:
    @Gandydancer
    @HA

    While I did was point out that what you allege to be a transcript of what Medvedev said simply doesn't parse and that I accordingly think it was corrupted either by the translator or by tendentious editing, but my main point was that Medvedev seemed to be stating a perfectly ordinary understanding of the way nuclear deterrence works and that your bizarre characterization of this as "[Medvedev is] actually pushing for nukes" is retarded. You may want to ignore this, but I'll just keep repeating the point as long as you continue to evade addressing it. You're a recidivist lying idiot jackass, but you'll have to find a different forum if you want to get away with emitting such lying idiocies without rebuke.

    Replies: @HA

    While I did was point out that what you allege to be a transcript of what Medvedev said simply doesn’t parse…

    The “OUR land” and “WE will have to use weapons” are easily parsable for anyone who isn’t trying to obfuscate the obvious. If you can’t grasp the “ordinary understanding” of that, appealing to ordinary understanding of anything else is hypocritical – or outright fantasy. And that being the case, any rebuke you could muster is going to be like the rest of your arguments — weak sauce. But feel free to keep digging away blindly in the hopes of finding the occasional nut in spite of yourself.

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @HA

    If an American politician says that if Russia nukes "our land... we will have to use nuclear weapons" would you then say he was " pushing for nukes”? Your determined refusal to deal with the actual issue with your claim despite my having pointed it out to you several times isn't the good look you imagine it to be.
  441. @Gandydancer
    @epebble


    How else do you parse “I don’t want to say as to why. But a lot of people understand it”?

    1. She is a woman; So, Putin will “walk all over her”
    2. She is colored (+ woman); Same as 1.

    How are 1 & 2 not “based on her appearance”? That is how I understand it. What other ways of understanding are there?
    When you allege a sentence must be about "appearance" and "woman" and "colored" when the sentence does not contain anything remotely like those words then you're not engaged in "parsing", you're engaged in lying.

    Maybe what Trump is saying is simply that Putin would see her as an obvious weakling simply because he is familiar with her history of non-performance.

    Kruschev famously concluded that JFK was a weakling before the Cuban Missile Crisis never mind that JFK was neither a woman nor a colored person.

    As it happens I'm a direct kind of guy and I wish Trump would be the same and have simply said in plain language whatever it was that he had to say, but I'm not a politician and Trump is a successful one so I don't assume he needs direction from me to choose the right level of ambiguity for it to work for him. But just because he is being ambiguous doesn't give you license to say that he said something he didn't actually say.

    Replies: @epebble

    Oh, come on, I am not a child. If he wanted to say she is a ‘weakling’, he would have said it without the slightest hesitation. All that elliptical talk was needed because saying it directly would have upset many people. This is what dog whistling is for.

    •�Replies: @Gandydancer
    @epebble


    Oh, come on, I am not a child... All that elliptical talk was needed because saying it directly would have upset many people. This is what dog whistling is for.
    So, apparently you're a dog. And as a dog you get to put words in Trump's mouth that he didn't say.
  442. @epebble
    @Gandydancer

    Oh, come on, I am not a child. If he wanted to say she is a 'weakling', he would have said it without the slightest hesitation. All that elliptical talk was needed because saying it directly would have upset many people. This is what dog whistling is for.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    Oh, come on, I am not a child… All that elliptical talk was needed because saying it directly would have upset many people. This is what dog whistling is for.

    So, apparently you’re a dog. And as a dog you get to put words in Trump’s mouth that he didn’t say.

  443. @HA
    @Gandydancer

    While I did was point out that what you allege to be a transcript of what Medvedev said simply doesn’t parse...

    The "OUR land" and "WE will have to use weapons" are easily parsable for anyone who isn't trying to obfuscate the obvious. If you can't grasp the "ordinary understanding" of that, appealing to ordinary understanding of anything else is hypocritical - or outright fantasy. And that being the case, any rebuke you could muster is going to be like the rest of your arguments -- weak sauce. But feel free to keep digging away blindly in the hopes of finding the occasional nut in spite of yourself.

    Replies: @Gandydancer

    If an American politician says that if Russia nukes “our land… we will have to use nuclear weapons” would you then say he was ” pushing for nukes”? Your determined refusal to deal with the actual issue with your claim despite my having pointed it out to you several times isn’t the good look you imagine it to be.

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