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As obtained by The Free Beacon telepathically via the mind of Andrew Stiles:

Dear Friends and Colleagues,

Eight score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we (metaphorically) stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. …

But 160 years later, I see no changes. All I see is racist faces. Misplaced hate makes disgrace to races. The only time we chill is when we kill each other. It takes skill to be real, time to heal each other. One hundred and sixty years later, the Person of Color is still languished in the corners of American society and finds herself in exile in her own land. …

To continue to fight—on the beaches, on the landing grounds, in the fields and in the streets, whatever the cost may be—for my personal vindication would almost totally absorb the time and attention of both the President and the Corporation in a period when our entire focus should be on upholding scholarly rigor and confronting hate in all its forms.

Therefore, I shall resign the Presidency effective at 1:00 p.m. today.

When I came to power in 2023 my road was clearly mapped out. It had been defined in a struggle, which had put me under an obligation to the Harvard people. The social part of this program meant unifying the Harvard people, overcoming all class and race prejudices, and if necessary, breaking any opposition to this unity. … It was the same in foreign politics. My program was to do away with Versailles. …

When my brief presidency is remembered, I hope it will be seen as a moment of reawakening to the importance of striving to find our common humanity—and of not allowing rancor and vituperation to undermine the vital process of education. I promise to never give you up, to never let you down, to never run around and desert you. To never make you cry, never say goodbye, or tell a lie and hurt you. After my picture fades, and darkness has turned to gray, watching through windows, you’re wondering if I’m okay. If you’re lost you can look and you will find me, time after time.

Sincerely,

Claudine Gay

(She/her)

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  1. You won’t have Claudine to kick around anymore.

    •�Thanks: Coemgen
    •�Replies: @Adolf Smith
    @Ralph L

    She is a coward. Why doesn't she stay and fight? She would be no worse off than she'll be now. Our Masters knew all about this plagiarism business when they hired her. She was picked to be reliably anti-white,but she momentarily forgot her place,and Master slapped her down.
    She could do so much to bring attention to genocide and the domination of our country by the Masters.

    I wonder what they're threatening to do to her? Make it public,let people see.

    "Sunshine is the best disinfectant."-Claudine Gay

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @Alden
  2. To paraphrase the great Fred Allen: Imitation is the sincerest form of academia.

    •�Thanks: Muggles
    •�LOL: R.G. Camara, Old Prude
  3. We all know why she stepped down and it had nothing to do with her shoddy academic career.

    •�Agree: Mr. Anon, Adam Smith
    •�Replies: @IHTG
    @Mycale

    What you're referring to is why a bunch of people started gunning for her, but it's not why Harvard was forced to let her go.
    , @Jack D
    @Mycale

    I know folks here are all too eager to give the Joos credit (blame) because "as we all know" they are the men behind the curtain pulling the secret levers behind EVERYTHING.

    However, you'll notice that Gay (unlike Magill BTW) withstood the initial salvos stemming from her response on 10/7 and her Congressional testimony. She even withstood the initial round of plagiarism allegations. The Corporation came out in mid-December and reaffirmed their support for her. So Joo power alone was apparently not enough to dislodge her.

    The real credit goes to the anon who sent in the 2nd round of allegations on 1/1. That was the straw that broke the camel's back.

    Generally speaking, the MSM is blaming/giving credit to "conservatives" for dethroning her, not Joos. But for the conspiracy minded, this is surely just Jooish deflection.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Santoculto, @Hunsdon
    , @anon
    @Mycale

    Her untouchable hair?
  4. Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?

    Why is this more interesting than the mass damage done to the economy and human lives done by the Covid Lockdowns?

    •�Agree: Mike Tre
    •�Thanks: Robertson, Mark G.
    •�Troll: ScarletNumber
    •�Replies: @Renard
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality

    IKR? And what about that moon landing hoax? And 9/11? And JFK? Area 51? Bigfoot? And why you of all people have auto-approve privileges here?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Colin Wright
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality


    'Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?

    Why is this more interesting than the mass damage done to the economy and human lives done by the Covid Lockdowns?
    It's more interesting because (for varying reasons) we all want to forget about the Covid episode.

    It didn't happen. We're sorry. We won't do it again. Ever.

    Replies: @Mike Tre
    , @tyrone
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality


    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    Why troll that comment ScarletNumber? that's a very good question......don't be a weirdo SN.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @tyrone
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality


    Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?
    It's not ,covid is a man made bio-weapon intentionally released ,probably to bring down Trump...... our sociopathic overloads don't want to be held responsible for committing one of the worst crimes in human history
    , @ydydy
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality

    The same reason that snowflakes find manga more interesting than girls.

    They're more attainable.

    Anything Gay (any which way!) is safer and surer a subject than the fact that everybody suspects that the class and individuals still running the show today were responsible for millions of deaths just 3 years ago.

    We can talk Gay because it's easy. Mimic a gaccent, then either mock or defend a nobody nothing.

    But what the hell does anybody plan to do about the fact that our whole world (covid just being the protruding tip) is based on lies and nonsense?

    The People couldn't land the head of either the Democratic or the Republican POTUS who partied with Epstein until they epsteined Epstein. And the worst anyone was convincingly guilty of there was sex with 16 year olds! Do you think there is any way TPTB won't epstein everyone to save their hides from bearing responsibility for The Panic and it's outcomes?

    These fellas literally made billions of people inject a placebo with minor toxins in order to cover up evidence of their crime for The Panic.

    If indeed they are also largely responsible for the outbreak itself everybody on earth knows that they will only go down as part of a world war and no other way.

    So (in much the same way as Germany regarded the Holocaust pre-67) everyone employs protective stupidity and chooses not to be very interested in the matter. (It helps that everyone is guilty.)

    I am personally unafraid of broaching any subject because I demand no hides.

    I favor total human revelation without hatred.

    That's why I'm still around.

    See here:

    https://youtu.be/BzHYd2Uar6s?feature=shared

    Replies: @Anon
    , @Robertson
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality

    Ralph Baric. Peter Dazak, Shi Zhengli......especially Shi Zhengli, Anthony Fauci. Furin-Cleavage-Sites, HIV-viral parts-inserted, running viruses through mice hoping they mutate and get stronger, Wuhan Lab being contracted by Dazak's Ecohealth Alliance Nonprofit which Fauci used when Obama told him to stop Gain-of-Function research in America.
    Videos of Hazmatted Chinese Train workers on the ground dead, which turned out to be passed out drunks, useless masks that allows for antifa-face-hiding, paper ballots harvested and drop boxes. Electric Joe Biden getting 81 million votes to Obama's 69 million.

    Nothing there to interest any muckracking journalist. Meanwhile deaths remain suspiciously above normal in much of Europe according to Dr. John Cambell, but not from Covid. What on Earth could it be?

    Replies: @HA
    , @Mark G.
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality

    Rand Paul deserves a lot of credit for continuing to dig into the origins of Covid while so many others show so little interest in it. He recently published a book on it, which I purchased as soon as it came out.

    Paul has also been one of the few members of Congress to question the wisdom of funneling large amounts of money to the corrupt Zelensky regime to continue a war whose only effect so far has been to kill large numbers of Ukrainians and enrich our military-industrial complex through weapon sales. I never hear Paul mentioned as a potential presidential candidate but I would certainly vote for him if he ran.

    Replies: @Ian Connolly
    , @AnotherDad
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality


    Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?

    Why is this more interesting than the mass damage done to the economy and human lives done by the Covid Lockdowns?
    I don't think Steve's saying it is. He just thinks it's entertaining and worth posting.

    Personally, I happen to find it pretty lame and boring. Jack D--i believe--posted it in a comment yesterday, I read a couple sentences and thought "yawn". Gay is not an interesting person and unlike mocking say Joe Biden utterly unimportant. And now she's done. (I'm a tiny bit surprised Steve bothered with this now.)

    The only interesting things about the Gay case:

    -- Her utter mediocrity. Harvard--Harvard really, embarrassingly stooped to go black.

    -- Reiteration of totem-pole realities. Blacks are at the top of the "oppression" totem pole, but they actually control nothing and have no power. Jews are at the top of the power-pole and--despite the demographic decline Pixo helpfully fleshed out--still control/run the Parasite Party and can make elite institutions snap to.

    -- Is this an indication that we've past peak black--the utter insanity of the past few years? I kind of think so, but nothing is for certain. Ultimately the Asian influx and over Latinization of the US don't look good for keeping up the classic minoritarian Jews+blacks anti-white program--unless the border insanity allows massive reinforcements from Africa. (In which case America is doomed.)

    -- The whole incident is a reminder of the fundamental lies at the heart of minoritarianism. Blacks have been the cudgel to beat whitey, the American people and nation. But there is just no getting around the fundamental fact, that the current black social situation is not because of our great mistake of slavery or past discrimination or vaporous "structural racism", but simply because of blacks are on average genetically significantly less capable at "modern civilization".
  5. @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?

    Why is this more interesting than the mass damage done to the economy and human lives done by the Covid Lockdowns?

    Replies: @Renard, @Colin Wright, @tyrone, @tyrone, @ydydy, @Robertson, @Mark G., @AnotherDad

    IKR? And what about that moon landing hoax? And 9/11? And JFK? Area 51? Bigfoot? And why you of all people have auto-approve privileges here?

    •�Agree: Redneck Farmer
    •�Thanks: Thea
    •�LOL: Old Prude
    •�Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Renard


    And why you of all people have auto-approve privileges here?
    Steve is borrowing Jared Taylor's policy at American Renaissance's letters page in the print days: "We reserve the right to hold out opponents to lower standards."

    When a commenter posits with every post that the height of Western civilization is the Sicilian Mafia, how can you resist? Give him enough cement and he'll make his own shoes.
  6. @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?

    Why is this more interesting than the mass damage done to the economy and human lives done by the Covid Lockdowns?

    Replies: @Renard, @Colin Wright, @tyrone, @tyrone, @ydydy, @Robertson, @Mark G., @AnotherDad

    ‘Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?

    Why is this more interesting than the mass damage done to the economy and human lives done by the Covid Lockdowns?

    It’s more interesting because (for varying reasons) we all want to forget about the Covid episode.

    It didn’t happen. We’re sorry. We won’t do it again. Ever.

    •�Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Colin Wright

    Says the guy who talks about the holocaust and evil not sees almost every day.
  7. Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?

    Why is this more interesting than the mass damage done to the economy and human lives done by the Covid Lockdowns?

    It isn’t. But it is being pushed.

  8. There will be a movie, and a beginning caption will read “Based on a True Story” and “based on” will provide a lot of fun wiggle-room for the screenwriter. A big question: Who will play Claudine Gay? Klinger from Mash or Angel from The Rockford files would depict they needed type of character, but we don’t have a time machine. Anyway, the eyeglass frames and the haircut provide enormous latitude as far as physical resemblance goes, so the field among current actors is quite wide. Tim Roth
    maybe – – a superb talent. Of course a child actor would be needed to portray a young Claudine, pulling the wool over the eyes of her schoolteachers and parents.

    •�Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @SafeNow


    Who will play Claudine Gay?
    Jaleel White, who was typecast as Urkel on Family Matters, so he might as well lean into it. Remember that while Michael Chiklis got himself blacklisted for a year or two due to him playing John Belushi in Wired, his career recovered nicely.

    Replies: @bomag
    , @Inquiring Mind
    @SafeNow

    Um, Whoopi Goldberg?

    Oprah Winfrey?
    , @Legba
    @SafeNow

    Arnold from that show where he wanted to know what Willis was talking about could play the young Professor
    , @Adolf Smith
    @SafeNow

    Spike Lee can direct himself.
    , @anon
    @SafeNow

    Ellen Page
  9. There’s Claudine Gay falling under a Stonewall! Rally behind the Virgins!

    •�Replies: @Old Prude
    @Ralph L

    LOL. I used up all my buttons before the first ten comments. Men of Unz rock! Thanks to all for a good chuckle over morning coffee.
  10. Thanks for beginning with a really obvious lead-in. I’m going to assume that literally every sentence of this is derived from some famous speech, but I can only pick up on about one third of them, at best.

    •�Agree: bomag
    •�Replies: @Burnett
    @Sleep

    Famous speeches and books, bookended by Tupac, Rick Astley, and Cyndi Lauper.
  11. @SafeNow
    There will be a movie, and a beginning caption will read “Based on a True Story” and “based on” will provide a lot of fun wiggle-room for the screenwriter. A big question: Who will play Claudine Gay? Klinger from Mash or Angel from The Rockford files would depict they needed type of character, but we don’t have a time machine. Anyway, the eyeglass frames and the haircut provide enormous latitude as far as physical resemblance goes, so the field among current actors is quite wide. Tim Roth
    maybe - - a superb talent. Of course a child actor would be needed to portray a young Claudine, pulling the wool over the eyes of her schoolteachers and parents.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Inquiring Mind, @Legba, @Adolf Smith, @anon

    Who will play Claudine Gay?

    Jaleel White, who was typecast as Urkel on Family Matters, so he might as well lean into it. Remember that while Michael Chiklis got himself blacklisted for a year or two due to him playing John Belushi in Wired, his career recovered nicely.

    •�Replies: @bomag
    @ScarletNumber

    Definite Urkel vibe in the press photos; but fairness demands the role go to Jussie Smollett.
  12. It would be no more surprising to learn that this letter is a parody lifted from Babylon Bee than would be to learn it is Claudine Gay’s own screed.

    •�Replies: @Known Fact
    @Coemgen

    The Bee right on schedule whipped out a similar spoof.
  13. @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?

    Why is this more interesting than the mass damage done to the economy and human lives done by the Covid Lockdowns?

    Replies: @Renard, @Colin Wright, @tyrone, @tyrone, @ydydy, @Robertson, @Mark G., @AnotherDad

    • Troll: ScarletNumber

    Why troll that comment ScarletNumber? that’s a very good question……don’t be a weirdo SN.

    •�Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @tyrone


    Why troll that comment ScarletNumber?
    A stopped clock is right twice a day. Perhaps in both cases here.
  14. @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?

    Why is this more interesting than the mass damage done to the economy and human lives done by the Covid Lockdowns?

    Replies: @Renard, @Colin Wright, @tyrone, @tyrone, @ydydy, @Robertson, @Mark G., @AnotherDad

    Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?

    It’s not ,covid is a man made bio-weapon intentionally released ,probably to bring down Trump…… our sociopathic overloads don’t want to be held responsible for committing one of the worst crimes in human history

    •�Agree: Robertson
  15. I think we should ALL declare ourselves President of Harvard, unilaterally, and then let the rich Jews who own the place sort it out.

    Sort of like an “*I* am Spartacus!” moment.

    Think of it: 27,000 crackpots (excuse me, NYT: extreme right wing racists) all claiming the throne at once. What could be funnier?

  16. ydydy says: •�Website
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?

    Why is this more interesting than the mass damage done to the economy and human lives done by the Covid Lockdowns?

    Replies: @Renard, @Colin Wright, @tyrone, @tyrone, @ydydy, @Robertson, @Mark G., @AnotherDad

    The same reason that snowflakes find manga more interesting than girls.

    They’re more attainable.

    Anything Gay (any which way!) is safer and surer a subject than the fact that everybody suspects that the class and individuals still running the show today were responsible for millions of deaths just 3 years ago.

    We can talk Gay because it’s easy. Mimic a gaccent, then either mock or defend a nobody nothing.

    But what the hell does anybody plan to do about the fact that our whole world (covid just being the protruding tip) is based on lies and nonsense?

    The People couldn’t land the head of either the Democratic or the Republican POTUS who partied with Epstein until they epsteined Epstein. And the worst anyone was convincingly guilty of there was sex with 16 year olds! Do you think there is any way TPTB won’t epstein everyone to save their hides from bearing responsibility for The Panic and it’s outcomes?

    These fellas literally made billions of people inject a placebo with minor toxins in order to cover up evidence of their crime for The Panic.

    If indeed they are also largely responsible for the outbreak itself everybody on earth knows that they will only go down as part of a world war and no other way.

    So (in much the same way as Germany regarded the Holocaust pre-67) everyone employs protective stupidity and chooses not to be very interested in the matter. (It helps that everyone is guilty.)

    I am personally unafraid of broaching any subject because I demand no hides.

    I favor total human revelation without hatred.

    That’s why I’m still around.

    See here:

    •�Replies: @Anon
    @ydydy

    The vaccine worked, it wasn't a placebo, COVID was a real and serious illness.

    Wokeness has a bright future as long as the Right has a critical mass of delusionals.

    (And Trump won the election, right?)

    Replies: @ydydy
  17. She was replaced by Claudine Jew.

  18. The signature takes the cake.

    •�Agree: Cool Daddy Jimbo
  19. @ScarletNumber
    @SafeNow


    Who will play Claudine Gay?
    Jaleel White, who was typecast as Urkel on Family Matters, so he might as well lean into it. Remember that while Michael Chiklis got himself blacklisted for a year or two due to him playing John Belushi in Wired, his career recovered nicely.

    Replies: @bomag

    Definite Urkel vibe in the press photos; but fairness demands the role go to Jussie Smollett.

  20. @Mycale
    We all know why she stepped down and it had nothing to do with her shoddy academic career.

    Replies: @IHTG, @Jack D, @anon

    What you’re referring to is why a bunch of people started gunning for her, but it’s not why Harvard was forced to let her go.

  21. Foxnews.com is reporting that Claudine Gay is likely to keep her $900,000 a year salary even if demoted to a mere professor. That’s an “elegant” falling on one’s sword if there ever was one. Baryshnikov-esque (remember him? The memory hole is a deep murky puddle, no?).

    In other news, the Maine Attorney General that ousted Trump from the ballot claims that voter I.D. laws are “rooted in white supremacy”.

    Arguing with people of this calibre is impossible if they are allowed to insist voodoo dolls and bad juju are real and you have somehow hexed them whenever they blunder.

    •�Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Robertson

    $900k sounds like an awful lot for a simple professor. My impression was that the only 7 figure salaries at Harvard were for a few superstars at the medical school, the business school, and, perhaps, the law school who could walk out the door tomorrow to higher pay.

    Most professors aren't in that situation. I can recall a Doonesbury cartoon from the Reagan era in which a professor complains to the college president that if his pay isn't raised, he'll take his talents to the private sector.

    The college president replies, "You teach Latin."

    My recollection is that the highest paid professor of Harvard undergrads a half decade ago was Claudine Gay's arch-enemy, economist Roland Fryer, a middle of the road black guy who brings in huge research grants from billionaires like Michael Bloomberg. And if I recall correctly, he was making something like $650k.

    Replies: @Adolf Smith, @Stan Adams, @Known Fact, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @res
    , @J.Ross
    @Robertson

    It's moot points on top of moot points -- why do you want a professor, at the most basic level, in any subject, who has been exposed as a fraud? The system doesn't work, it's crawling along because of lack of resolve on the part of the decent. Even if Ackman et al succeeded in withholding money (I predict they'll chicken out because their money is their voice), Harvard already has all the money it could possibly need, and the staff have been demonstrated by this affair to be true believer cultist types. This is like that hospital in 70s New York which has handed over to street criminals, who dysfunctionally ran it for a while as a huge drug house. We cannot wait for failure (of a multi-billion dollar endowment) or in-house reform (from true believer cultists), the real solution would be something like what Henry the 8th did.
    , @bomag
    @Robertson


    ...Gay is likely to keep her $900,000 a year salary
    That's a type of corruption.

    There was a dust-up some time back (90s?) where a group of alums complained about the fees paid to the fund managers: "One should not need such money to give their best effort."

    How times have changed. A chunk of alums are now probably wondering why she is getting so little, dutifully in line like the Iraqi parliament, who reliably called on Saddam Hussein to have more purges; to kill more people.

    Maine Attorney General... claims that voter I.D. laws are “rooted in white supremacy”
    When the Dems are firing this big gun, it tells you they don't like voter ID laws because it makes it harder for them to cheat.
    , @Prester John
    @Robertson

    I thought it was the Maine Secretary of State who knocked Trump off the ballot. No matter--both the AG and SoS are elected, not appointed, so the argument can be made that this act was done with the blessing of the Maine electorate.

    Maine is one of the whitest states in the US. What a hoot!

    Replies: @FPD72
  22. Gay learned the true lesson of the American elite: Don’t fuc$ with the Jews.

  23. I will plagiarize no more forever. – Claudine Gay

  24. @Robertson
    Foxnews.com is reporting that Claudine Gay is likely to keep her $900,000 a year salary even if demoted to a mere professor. That's an "elegant" falling on one's sword if there ever was one. Baryshnikov-esque (remember him? The memory hole is a deep murky puddle, no?).

    In other news, the Maine Attorney General that ousted Trump from the ballot claims that voter I.D. laws are "rooted in white supremacy".

    Arguing with people of this calibre is impossible if they are allowed to insist voodoo dolls and bad juju are real and you have somehow hexed them whenever they blunder.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross, @bomag, @Prester John

    $900k sounds like an awful lot for a simple professor. My impression was that the only 7 figure salaries at Harvard were for a few superstars at the medical school, the business school, and, perhaps, the law school who could walk out the door tomorrow to higher pay.

    Most professors aren’t in that situation. I can recall a Doonesbury cartoon from the Reagan era in which a professor complains to the college president that if his pay isn’t raised, he’ll take his talents to the private sector.

    The college president replies, “You teach Latin.”

    My recollection is that the highest paid professor of Harvard undergrads a half decade ago was Claudine Gay’s arch-enemy, economist Roland Fryer, a middle of the road black guy who brings in huge research grants from billionaires like Michael Bloomberg. And if I recall correctly, he was making something like $650k.

    •�Replies: @Adolf Smith
    @Steve Sailer

    So the old gal is being paid off?
    "Look,all due respect,we're going to have to say some stuff,its all for show,you understand. Nothin'personal. You get to keep your salary."

    "Everyone needs money;that's why they call it money."
    , @Stan Adams
    @Steve Sailer

    December 19, 1981:
    https://i.ibb.co/m8d9vzw/budget-cuts.png

    This was near the end of the college era of the strip.
    , @Known Fact
    @Steve Sailer

    Was it here or elsewhere I learned that Fryer did research indicating cops are more likely on a percent basis to shoot white suspects than black suspects? Heresy!
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Steve Sailer


    $900k sounds like an awful lot for a simple professor.
    It’s a (temporary?) concession to her, returning her to her Dean of FAS administrative pay level (Bacow as president was making $1.3 mil, I doubt she was rated to make less). She still could lose it all by being fully ousted, possibly by a new Corporation.
    , @res
    @Steve Sailer

    Here is an article about that 1981 cartoon (includes a reprint of it).
  25. @SafeNow
    There will be a movie, and a beginning caption will read “Based on a True Story” and “based on” will provide a lot of fun wiggle-room for the screenwriter. A big question: Who will play Claudine Gay? Klinger from Mash or Angel from The Rockford files would depict they needed type of character, but we don’t have a time machine. Anyway, the eyeglass frames and the haircut provide enormous latitude as far as physical resemblance goes, so the field among current actors is quite wide. Tim Roth
    maybe - - a superb talent. Of course a child actor would be needed to portray a young Claudine, pulling the wool over the eyes of her schoolteachers and parents.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Inquiring Mind, @Legba, @Adolf Smith, @anon

    Um, Whoopi Goldberg?

    Oprah Winfrey?

  26. She forgot to mention the dangers of the Military Industrial Complex.

  27. @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?

    Why is this more interesting than the mass damage done to the economy and human lives done by the Covid Lockdowns?

    Replies: @Renard, @Colin Wright, @tyrone, @tyrone, @ydydy, @Robertson, @Mark G., @AnotherDad

    Ralph Baric. Peter Dazak, Shi Zhengli……especially Shi Zhengli, Anthony Fauci. Furin-Cleavage-Sites, HIV-viral parts-inserted, running viruses through mice hoping they mutate and get stronger, Wuhan Lab being contracted by Dazak’s Ecohealth Alliance Nonprofit which Fauci used when Obama told him to stop Gain-of-Function research in America.
    Videos of Hazmatted Chinese Train workers on the ground dead, which turned out to be passed out drunks, useless masks that allows for antifa-face-hiding, paper ballots harvested and drop boxes. Electric Joe Biden getting 81 million votes to Obama’s 69 million.

    Nothing there to interest any muckracking journalist. Meanwhile deaths remain suspiciously above normal in much of Europe according to Dr. John Cambell, but not from Covid. What on Earth could it be?

    •�Replies: @HA
    @Robertson

    "Meanwhile deaths remain suspiciously above normal in much of Europe according to Dr. John Cambell, but not from Covid. What on Earth could it be?"

    First of all, "Dr. John Campbell" is a "retired nurse educator", not a statistician or epidemiologist. (He received the Ph.D. for his work on developing methods of teaching via digital media such as online videos.) The only reason anyone at all cares about what he says is that he's a COVID truther, and most of the just-a-flu bros' other fallen heroes (e.g. Wittkowski and Malone) have found better things to do by now, but I'm guessing a retired nurse educator has more in the way of free time. Second, deaths are don't look suspiciously "above normal" in Europe as a whole for the last couple of months -- but feel free to have a look yourself -- so, absent the usual cherry-picking and data-mining, that's another strike.

    Lastly, if all this what-could-it-possibly-be scary talk is leading us to myocarditis risk, consider the fact that COVID itself is far more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine itself, so if you're trying to find someone to blame for elevated death rates in any cohort, Mr. Not-vaxxing-me, look within.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @OK Boomer
  28. Looks like the “Black Jewish Alliance” is over. What I don’t quite get is there never were any coherent demands on Gay. What exactly was she supposed to do? Using the National Lampoon cliché, put the misbehaving Harvard students on double secret probation?

  29. @Ralph L
    You won't have Claudine to kick around anymore.

    Replies: @Adolf Smith

    She is a coward. Why doesn’t she stay and fight? She would be no worse off than she’ll be now. Our Masters knew all about this plagiarism business when they hired her. She was picked to be reliably anti-white,but she momentarily forgot her place,and Master slapped her down.
    She could do so much to bring attention to genocide and the domination of our country by the Masters.

    I wonder what they’re threatening to do to her? Make it public,let people see.

    “Sunshine is the best disinfectant.”-Claudine Gay

    •�Replies: @deep anonymous
    @Adolf Smith

    She's getting paid $900,000 per year and doesn't lose her professorship/pay after resigning. Sounds like a lot of leverage to me.
    , @Alden
    @Adolf Smith

    She’s making 980K a year for teaching some bullshit piled higher and deeper black womens grievance course.

    BS degree bullshit MS degree more of the same PHD piled higher and deeper.
  30. @Renard
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality

    IKR? And what about that moon landing hoax? And 9/11? And JFK? Area 51? Bigfoot? And why you of all people have auto-approve privileges here?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    And why you of all people have auto-approve privileges here?

    Steve is borrowing Jared Taylor’s policy at American Renaissance’s letters page in the print days: “We reserve the right to hold out opponents to lower standards.”

    When a commenter posits with every post that the height of Western civilization is the Sicilian Mafia, how can you resist? Give him enough cement and he’ll make his own shoes.

  31. @tyrone
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality


    • Troll: ScarletNumber
    Why troll that comment ScarletNumber? that's a very good question......don't be a weirdo SN.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Why troll that comment ScarletNumber?

    A stopped clock is right twice a day. Perhaps in both cases here.

  32. @ydydy
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality

    The same reason that snowflakes find manga more interesting than girls.

    They're more attainable.

    Anything Gay (any which way!) is safer and surer a subject than the fact that everybody suspects that the class and individuals still running the show today were responsible for millions of deaths just 3 years ago.

    We can talk Gay because it's easy. Mimic a gaccent, then either mock or defend a nobody nothing.

    But what the hell does anybody plan to do about the fact that our whole world (covid just being the protruding tip) is based on lies and nonsense?

    The People couldn't land the head of either the Democratic or the Republican POTUS who partied with Epstein until they epsteined Epstein. And the worst anyone was convincingly guilty of there was sex with 16 year olds! Do you think there is any way TPTB won't epstein everyone to save their hides from bearing responsibility for The Panic and it's outcomes?

    These fellas literally made billions of people inject a placebo with minor toxins in order to cover up evidence of their crime for The Panic.

    If indeed they are also largely responsible for the outbreak itself everybody on earth knows that they will only go down as part of a world war and no other way.

    So (in much the same way as Germany regarded the Holocaust pre-67) everyone employs protective stupidity and chooses not to be very interested in the matter. (It helps that everyone is guilty.)

    I am personally unafraid of broaching any subject because I demand no hides.

    I favor total human revelation without hatred.

    That's why I'm still around.

    See here:

    https://youtu.be/BzHYd2Uar6s?feature=shared

    Replies: @Anon

    The vaccine worked, it wasn’t a placebo, COVID was a real and serious illness.

    Wokeness has a bright future as long as the Right has a critical mass of delusionals.

    (And Trump won the election, right?)

    •�Agree: Santoculto
    •�Replies: @ydydy
    @Anon

    Cut it out dude
  33. @Steve Sailer
    @Robertson

    $900k sounds like an awful lot for a simple professor. My impression was that the only 7 figure salaries at Harvard were for a few superstars at the medical school, the business school, and, perhaps, the law school who could walk out the door tomorrow to higher pay.

    Most professors aren't in that situation. I can recall a Doonesbury cartoon from the Reagan era in which a professor complains to the college president that if his pay isn't raised, he'll take his talents to the private sector.

    The college president replies, "You teach Latin."

    My recollection is that the highest paid professor of Harvard undergrads a half decade ago was Claudine Gay's arch-enemy, economist Roland Fryer, a middle of the road black guy who brings in huge research grants from billionaires like Michael Bloomberg. And if I recall correctly, he was making something like $650k.

    Replies: @Adolf Smith, @Stan Adams, @Known Fact, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @res

    So the old gal is being paid off?
    “Look,all due respect,we’re going to have to say some stuff,its all for show,you understand. Nothin’personal. You get to keep your salary.”

    “Everyone needs money;that’s why they call it money.”

  34. @SafeNow
    There will be a movie, and a beginning caption will read “Based on a True Story” and “based on” will provide a lot of fun wiggle-room for the screenwriter. A big question: Who will play Claudine Gay? Klinger from Mash or Angel from The Rockford files would depict they needed type of character, but we don’t have a time machine. Anyway, the eyeglass frames and the haircut provide enormous latitude as far as physical resemblance goes, so the field among current actors is quite wide. Tim Roth
    maybe - - a superb talent. Of course a child actor would be needed to portray a young Claudine, pulling the wool over the eyes of her schoolteachers and parents.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Inquiring Mind, @Legba, @Adolf Smith, @anon

    Arnold from that show where he wanted to know what Willis was talking about could play the young Professor

  35. Goodbye Claudine, with your appointment to Harvard’s presidency I hoped, alas in vain, that this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.

    •�Thanks: Coemgen
    •�LOL: Farenheit
    •�Replies: @bomag
    @International Jew

    Funny, but behind it is a serious point. The Diversity, Inclusion, etc. has been sold to us as a road to a better future; a happier place; a nicer place. We're getting the opposite, so the question is: how long do we have to play the game before it is time to admit that the emperor has no clothes?

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  36. @Coemgen
    It would be no more surprising to learn that this letter is a parody lifted from Babylon Bee than would be to learn it is Claudine Gay’s own screed.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    The Bee right on schedule whipped out a similar spoof.

  37. @Steve Sailer
    @Robertson

    $900k sounds like an awful lot for a simple professor. My impression was that the only 7 figure salaries at Harvard were for a few superstars at the medical school, the business school, and, perhaps, the law school who could walk out the door tomorrow to higher pay.

    Most professors aren't in that situation. I can recall a Doonesbury cartoon from the Reagan era in which a professor complains to the college president that if his pay isn't raised, he'll take his talents to the private sector.

    The college president replies, "You teach Latin."

    My recollection is that the highest paid professor of Harvard undergrads a half decade ago was Claudine Gay's arch-enemy, economist Roland Fryer, a middle of the road black guy who brings in huge research grants from billionaires like Michael Bloomberg. And if I recall correctly, he was making something like $650k.

    Replies: @Adolf Smith, @Stan Adams, @Known Fact, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @res

    December 19, 1981:

    This was near the end of the college era of the strip.

  38. @Steve Sailer
    @Robertson

    $900k sounds like an awful lot for a simple professor. My impression was that the only 7 figure salaries at Harvard were for a few superstars at the medical school, the business school, and, perhaps, the law school who could walk out the door tomorrow to higher pay.

    Most professors aren't in that situation. I can recall a Doonesbury cartoon from the Reagan era in which a professor complains to the college president that if his pay isn't raised, he'll take his talents to the private sector.

    The college president replies, "You teach Latin."

    My recollection is that the highest paid professor of Harvard undergrads a half decade ago was Claudine Gay's arch-enemy, economist Roland Fryer, a middle of the road black guy who brings in huge research grants from billionaires like Michael Bloomberg. And if I recall correctly, he was making something like $650k.

    Replies: @Adolf Smith, @Stan Adams, @Known Fact, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @res

    Was it here or elsewhere I learned that Fryer did research indicating cops are more likely on a percent basis to shoot white suspects than black suspects? Heresy!

  39. HA says:
    @Robertson
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality

    Ralph Baric. Peter Dazak, Shi Zhengli......especially Shi Zhengli, Anthony Fauci. Furin-Cleavage-Sites, HIV-viral parts-inserted, running viruses through mice hoping they mutate and get stronger, Wuhan Lab being contracted by Dazak's Ecohealth Alliance Nonprofit which Fauci used when Obama told him to stop Gain-of-Function research in America.
    Videos of Hazmatted Chinese Train workers on the ground dead, which turned out to be passed out drunks, useless masks that allows for antifa-face-hiding, paper ballots harvested and drop boxes. Electric Joe Biden getting 81 million votes to Obama's 69 million.

    Nothing there to interest any muckracking journalist. Meanwhile deaths remain suspiciously above normal in much of Europe according to Dr. John Cambell, but not from Covid. What on Earth could it be?

    Replies: @HA

    “Meanwhile deaths remain suspiciously above normal in much of Europe according to Dr. John Cambell, but not from Covid. What on Earth could it be?”

    First of all, “Dr. John Campbell” is a “retired nurse educator”, not a statistician or epidemiologist. (He received the Ph.D. for his work on developing methods of teaching via digital media such as online videos.) The only reason anyone at all cares about what he says is that he’s a COVID truther, and most of the just-a-flu bros’ other fallen heroes (e.g. Wittkowski and Malone) have found better things to do by now, but I’m guessing a retired nurse educator has more in the way of free time. Second, deaths are don’t look suspiciously “above normal” in Europe as a whole for the last couple of months — but feel free to have a look yourself — so, absent the usual cherry-picking and data-mining, that’s another strike.

    Lastly, if all this what-could-it-possibly-be scary talk is leading us to myocarditis risk, consider the fact that COVID itself is far more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine itself, so if you’re trying to find someone to blame for elevated death rates in any cohort, Mr. Not-vaxxing-me, look within.

    •�Disagree: Robertson, OK Boomer
    •�Replies: @Anonymous
    @HA

    I don’t he doubts the virus exists. I think he was pretty gung ho on protecting yourself when it first hit. He does report on side effects of the vaccine. That’s true.

    But also, the origin of the virus is something we need a full investigation of. I don’t know whether he talks about that or not. But the lack of curiosity about it among officials is bizarre.

    No, I don’t think they planned it on purpose. But it does look like some kind of research got out of hand.

    Replies: @HA
    , @OK Boomer
    @HA

    I don't see the benefit in "COVID itself is far more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine itself". The RNA vaccines were never approved for lowering the risk of catching COVID, so, if you get the Trump-Kariko-Kizzmekkia shot, you have the risk of covid-caused myocarditis that everyone has, plus an extra risk from the vaccine.

    Of course, the Trumpers, the Karikans and the Kizzmekkians will all say we should move on, since pointing out things like those in my first paragraph show the American boomer government, the Sacred Cows of the progressive Western youth, and the Western science being useless, at the very least, their decisions and "discoveries" as useful as those of the Congolese.

    If anything, Congo was even less impacted by covid.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  40. I was hoping she’d crib from some of those inspiring speeches where the South Park kids scold the town’s feckless adults, the earnest pep talks where Captain Kirk urges some screwed-up alien planet to get its act together, or the converse where haughty Outer Limits aliens tell Earthlings we’re stupid pathetic hate-filled children

  41. This clearly opens the door for former Chicago Mayor, Lori lightfoot. She’s already on the Harvard campus as a lecturer at the Kennedy School of Government and she fits most of the agenda requirements, with the bonus of being “married” to a 7 foot tall Jewish woman.

  42. @Mycale
    We all know why she stepped down and it had nothing to do with her shoddy academic career.

    Replies: @IHTG, @Jack D, @anon

    I know folks here are all too eager to give the Joos credit (blame) because “as we all know” they are the men behind the curtain pulling the secret levers behind EVERYTHING.

    However, you’ll notice that Gay (unlike Magill BTW) withstood the initial salvos stemming from her response on 10/7 and her Congressional testimony. She even withstood the initial round of plagiarism allegations. The Corporation came out in mid-December and reaffirmed their support for her. So Joo power alone was apparently not enough to dislodge her.

    The real credit goes to the anon who sent in the 2nd round of allegations on 1/1. That was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

    Generally speaking, the MSM is blaming/giving credit to “conservatives” for dethroning her, not Joos. But for the conspiracy minded, this is surely just Jooish deflection.

    •�Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jack D


    So Joo power alone was apparently not enough to dislodge her.
    Ultimately, both Hamas and the Jews deserve credit. Teamwork!

    https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/NYPICHPDPICT000058131786.jpg

    Replies: @ydydy, @Pixo
    , @Santoculto
    @Jack D

    Jackuck
    , @Hunsdon
    @Jack D

    I blame the Joo Men of Unz.
  43. I’m feeling Gay fatigue. I’m going to say goodbye to the affair with this final link.

    It is Bill Ackman’s complete and lengthy explanation for why he acted. Interestingly, it was 95% about DEI. He had not understood its new hegemony and its deleterious effects, and was appalled by what he discovered in thorough talks with faculty and students on campus. He has a record as a free-speech advocate, and says he only became concerned about the JQ when students were harshly threatened and intimidated.

    He calls for Pritzker and the rest of the Board to resign, and a new non-DEI Board appointed. And he calls for abolition of the DEI office and dismissal of all its staff.

    I know that some commenters here will consider his statement disingenuous, and I will refrain from quarreling about that. His remarks are at least interesting, and hopefully mark the beginning of the end for DEI.

    •�Thanks: J.Ross, MEH 0910
    •�Replies: @Farenheit
    @New Dealer


    In any case, there are many incredibly talented black men and women who could have been selected by Harvard to serve as its president so why did the Harvard Corporation board choose Gay?
    I think Mr Ackman is not quite fully up to speed on the "78:1" problem. He's nibbling around the edges, but not really fully willing to embrace the true reality.
    , @Jack D
    @New Dealer


    I know that some commenters here will consider his statement disingenuous
    This has always been the problem with the right. Instead of taking allies as you find them, even if they are imperfect or you question their motives, you look for excuses to turn them away - he's a dirty Jew.

    Somehow the Left has put together in their Coalition of the Fringes a bunch of disparate groups that mostly naturally hate each other (and fall to quarrelling among each other sometimes) but by unifying around their dislike of white men they manage to keep them pulling together most of the time and they have achieved a lot of power that way. As long as the right consists mainly of old white men shaking their fists at the sky and looking for reasons for why no one is good enough to join their club it is going nowhere.
    , @Corpse Tooth
    @New Dealer

    "Gay fatigue"

    I've grown fatigued by the use of "iconic" amongst Zoomer media robots. To a generation raised on the digital teat anything even remotely organic is "iconic." Whilst your bete noire may disappear from public view rest assured that you'll be seeing the now iconic Gay glasses on the faces of the robots.
    , @Jack D
    @New Dealer

    I've now read Ackman's essay. Well worth reading and a massive takedown of DEI. DEI needs to be purged from our institutions.

    It is just like the system that prevailed in Communist countries where only people with proper "proletarian" backgrounds could get into college or advance in their careers. Having a "black" background (this did not mean racially - it meant that your parents were from the landlord class) meant that you would never get anywhere in the educational or power structure. Note that this was a hereditary status - the fact that your ANCESTORS had been (in effect) slave owners made you guilty and suspect.

    Also, it was not sufficient to just remain quiet - you had to actively promote the new ideology in order to advance in your profession. Only Party cadres were eligible for the most important positions even in non-political places. This was very much echoed in Comrade Kendi's notion that there were only racists and anti-racists. If you were not an active anti-racist that meant that you were a racist. Thus the notion that anyone seeking tenure has to show how they have supported DEI and the fact that the selection committee for Harvard president ONLY looked at candidates that had met DEI criteria. (Ackman mentions that he was called a racist for even bring this up when it was a documented fact).

    I hope that Ackman succeeds in his crusade, which goes much farther than just getting rid of Gay or even the current Harvard board. The whole DEI establishment must be purged like the Maoists that they are.

    The other point that Ackman makes (whether or not the Men of Unz want to hear this) is that Jews were just the canary in the DEI coal mine - the larger thrust of the movement was against ALL settler colonialists (meaning white people). They just hadn't gotten around to the rest.

    Replies: @Pixo, @AnotherDad, @J.Ross, @Jenner Ickham Errican
    , @Intelligent Dasein
    @New Dealer

    For what it's worth, New Dealer, I think Ackman's statement is a pretty real and significant phenomenon.
    , @OK Boomer
    @New Dealer

    "I’m feeling Gay fatigue." - Oh, look who suddenly got "so damned tired". Perhaps you'd want to discuss your feelings re. someone touching your hair last year, now that the table has turned, and the Sacred Cows of America are being disrespected.

    In a sense, there is to much Harvard here. Let's vary the subjects a bit. How about something novel and interesting about golf fields. Or quarterbacks, I miss them a lot. Anything, but a discussion about a failure at an actual top position of America, a job which gives America its Treasury secretaries.

    The emperor is naked.
  44. @Robertson
    Foxnews.com is reporting that Claudine Gay is likely to keep her $900,000 a year salary even if demoted to a mere professor. That's an "elegant" falling on one's sword if there ever was one. Baryshnikov-esque (remember him? The memory hole is a deep murky puddle, no?).

    In other news, the Maine Attorney General that ousted Trump from the ballot claims that voter I.D. laws are "rooted in white supremacy".

    Arguing with people of this calibre is impossible if they are allowed to insist voodoo dolls and bad juju are real and you have somehow hexed them whenever they blunder.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross, @bomag, @Prester John

    It’s moot points on top of moot points — why do you want a professor, at the most basic level, in any subject, who has been exposed as a fraud? The system doesn’t work, it’s crawling along because of lack of resolve on the part of the decent. Even if Ackman et al succeeded in withholding money (I predict they’ll chicken out because their money is their voice), Harvard already has all the money it could possibly need, and the staff have been demonstrated by this affair to be true believer cultist types. This is like that hospital in 70s New York which has handed over to street criminals, who dysfunctionally ran it for a while as a huge drug house. We cannot wait for failure (of a multi-billion dollar endowment) or in-house reform (from true believer cultists), the real solution would be something like what Henry the 8th did.

  45. @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?

    Why is this more interesting than the mass damage done to the economy and human lives done by the Covid Lockdowns?

    Replies: @Renard, @Colin Wright, @tyrone, @tyrone, @ydydy, @Robertson, @Mark G., @AnotherDad

    Rand Paul deserves a lot of credit for continuing to dig into the origins of Covid while so many others show so little interest in it. He recently published a book on it, which I purchased as soon as it came out.

    Paul has also been one of the few members of Congress to question the wisdom of funneling large amounts of money to the corrupt Zelensky regime to continue a war whose only effect so far has been to kill large numbers of Ukrainians and enrich our military-industrial complex through weapon sales. I never hear Paul mentioned as a potential presidential candidate but I would certainly vote for him if he ran.

    •�Replies: @Ian Connolly
    @Mark G.

    Rand Paul supports mass immigration, endlessly panders to black people, and he’s another Zionist Israel shill

    Are you serious?
  46. @New Dealer
    I'm feeling Gay fatigue. I'm going to say goodbye to the affair with this final link.

    It is Bill Ackman's complete and lengthy explanation for why he acted. Interestingly, it was 95% about DEI. He had not understood its new hegemony and its deleterious effects, and was appalled by what he discovered in thorough talks with faculty and students on campus. He has a record as a free-speech advocate, and says he only became concerned about the JQ when students were harshly threatened and intimidated.

    He calls for Pritzker and the rest of the Board to resign, and a new non-DEI Board appointed. And he calls for abolition of the DEI office and dismissal of all its staff.

    I know that some commenters here will consider his statement disingenuous, and I will refrain from quarreling about that. His remarks are at least interesting, and hopefully mark the beginning of the end for DEI.

    https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1742441534627184760

    Replies: @Farenheit, @Jack D, @Corpse Tooth, @Jack D, @Intelligent Dasein, @OK Boomer

    In any case, there are many incredibly talented black men and women who could have been selected by Harvard to serve as its president so why did the Harvard Corporation board choose Gay?

    I think Mr Ackman is not quite fully up to speed on the “78:1” problem. He’s nibbling around the edges, but not really fully willing to embrace the true reality.

  47. @Steve Sailer
    @Robertson

    $900k sounds like an awful lot for a simple professor. My impression was that the only 7 figure salaries at Harvard were for a few superstars at the medical school, the business school, and, perhaps, the law school who could walk out the door tomorrow to higher pay.

    Most professors aren't in that situation. I can recall a Doonesbury cartoon from the Reagan era in which a professor complains to the college president that if his pay isn't raised, he'll take his talents to the private sector.

    The college president replies, "You teach Latin."

    My recollection is that the highest paid professor of Harvard undergrads a half decade ago was Claudine Gay's arch-enemy, economist Roland Fryer, a middle of the road black guy who brings in huge research grants from billionaires like Michael Bloomberg. And if I recall correctly, he was making something like $650k.

    Replies: @Adolf Smith, @Stan Adams, @Known Fact, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @res

    $900k sounds like an awful lot for a simple professor.

    It’s a (temporary?) concession to her, returning her to her Dean of FAS administrative pay level (Bacow as president was making $1.3 mil, I doubt she was rated to make less). She still could lose it all by being fully ousted, possibly by a new Corporation.

  48. @Robertson
    Foxnews.com is reporting that Claudine Gay is likely to keep her $900,000 a year salary even if demoted to a mere professor. That's an "elegant" falling on one's sword if there ever was one. Baryshnikov-esque (remember him? The memory hole is a deep murky puddle, no?).

    In other news, the Maine Attorney General that ousted Trump from the ballot claims that voter I.D. laws are "rooted in white supremacy".

    Arguing with people of this calibre is impossible if they are allowed to insist voodoo dolls and bad juju are real and you have somehow hexed them whenever they blunder.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross, @bomag, @Prester John

    …Gay is likely to keep her $900,000 a year salary

    That’s a type of corruption.

    There was a dust-up some time back (90s?) where a group of alums complained about the fees paid to the fund managers: “One should not need such money to give their best effort.”

    How times have changed. A chunk of alums are now probably wondering why she is getting so little, dutifully in line like the Iraqi parliament, who reliably called on Saddam Hussein to have more purges; to kill more people.

    Maine Attorney General… claims that voter I.D. laws are “rooted in white supremacy”

    When the Dems are firing this big gun, it tells you they don’t like voter ID laws because it makes it harder for them to cheat.

  49. @Jack D
    @Mycale

    I know folks here are all too eager to give the Joos credit (blame) because "as we all know" they are the men behind the curtain pulling the secret levers behind EVERYTHING.

    However, you'll notice that Gay (unlike Magill BTW) withstood the initial salvos stemming from her response on 10/7 and her Congressional testimony. She even withstood the initial round of plagiarism allegations. The Corporation came out in mid-December and reaffirmed their support for her. So Joo power alone was apparently not enough to dislodge her.

    The real credit goes to the anon who sent in the 2nd round of allegations on 1/1. That was the straw that broke the camel's back.

    Generally speaking, the MSM is blaming/giving credit to "conservatives" for dethroning her, not Joos. But for the conspiracy minded, this is surely just Jooish deflection.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Santoculto, @Hunsdon

    So Joo power alone was apparently not enough to dislodge her.

    Ultimately, both Hamas and the Jews deserve credit. Teamwork!

    •�Replies: @ydydy
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You deserve an LOL but I wanted to make sure that this woman was one of the women who was freed in good in health before I did so.

    Alas, the internet of '99 is no more and 5 minutes of googling did not return a definite answer.
    , @Pixo
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Current score is 2k Arabs 23k Jews.

    https://whatsnew2day.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Benjamin-Netanyahu-addresses-cheering-supporters-as-he-looks-set-to.jpg
  50. @International Jew
    Goodbye Claudine, with your appointment to Harvard's presidency I hoped, alas in vain, that this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.

    Replies: @bomag

    Funny, but behind it is a serious point. The Diversity, Inclusion, etc. has been sold to us as a road to a better future; a happier place; a nicer place. We’re getting the opposite, so the question is: how long do we have to play the game before it is time to admit that the emperor has no clothes?

    •�Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    @bomag


    We’re getting the opposite, so the question is: how long do we have to play the game before it is time to admit that the emperor has no clothes?
    Not only does the emperor have no clothes, he's ranting, raving, and masturbating in front of us all. And the whole Gay affair is ridiculous! There is no way that the people at Harvard didn't know every one of her weaknesses when they hired her. They just figured that she would stay on the plantation, and she really did. She's not exactly Julius Streicher! Gay just didn't understand how crazy, stupid, paranoid, and thin-skinned the Jewish radicals running the country actually are.

    Gay was fired because she didn't go nuclear on college students who were protesting Israel. Because of that, she was accused of supporting the genocide of Jews who are actually in the process of ethnically cleansing and genociding Palestinians.

    We live in Clown World. Nah, Jews aren't running the country, and they aren't toxic and destructive tribalists, either.
  51. Never thought I’d get rick-rolled on iSteve. 2024’s gonna be a banger!

  52. @Steve Sailer
    @Robertson

    $900k sounds like an awful lot for a simple professor. My impression was that the only 7 figure salaries at Harvard were for a few superstars at the medical school, the business school, and, perhaps, the law school who could walk out the door tomorrow to higher pay.

    Most professors aren't in that situation. I can recall a Doonesbury cartoon from the Reagan era in which a professor complains to the college president that if his pay isn't raised, he'll take his talents to the private sector.

    The college president replies, "You teach Latin."

    My recollection is that the highest paid professor of Harvard undergrads a half decade ago was Claudine Gay's arch-enemy, economist Roland Fryer, a middle of the road black guy who brings in huge research grants from billionaires like Michael Bloomberg. And if I recall correctly, he was making something like $650k.

    Replies: @Adolf Smith, @Stan Adams, @Known Fact, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @res

    Here is an article about that 1981 cartoon (includes a reprint of it).

  53. @New Dealer
    I'm feeling Gay fatigue. I'm going to say goodbye to the affair with this final link.

    It is Bill Ackman's complete and lengthy explanation for why he acted. Interestingly, it was 95% about DEI. He had not understood its new hegemony and its deleterious effects, and was appalled by what he discovered in thorough talks with faculty and students on campus. He has a record as a free-speech advocate, and says he only became concerned about the JQ when students were harshly threatened and intimidated.

    He calls for Pritzker and the rest of the Board to resign, and a new non-DEI Board appointed. And he calls for abolition of the DEI office and dismissal of all its staff.

    I know that some commenters here will consider his statement disingenuous, and I will refrain from quarreling about that. His remarks are at least interesting, and hopefully mark the beginning of the end for DEI.

    https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1742441534627184760

    Replies: @Farenheit, @Jack D, @Corpse Tooth, @Jack D, @Intelligent Dasein, @OK Boomer

    I know that some commenters here will consider his statement disingenuous

    This has always been the problem with the right. Instead of taking allies as you find them, even if they are imperfect or you question their motives, you look for excuses to turn them away – he’s a dirty Jew.

    Somehow the Left has put together in their Coalition of the Fringes a bunch of disparate groups that mostly naturally hate each other (and fall to quarrelling among each other sometimes) but by unifying around their dislike of white men they manage to keep them pulling together most of the time and they have achieved a lot of power that way. As long as the right consists mainly of old white men shaking their fists at the sky and looking for reasons for why no one is good enough to join their club it is going nowhere.

  54. Superb. Reminds me of Twain’s Duke in Huckleberry Finn,

    To be or not to be; that is the bare bodkin
    That makes calamity of so long life;
    For who would fardels bear, till Birnam Wood do come to Dunsinane,
    But that the fear of something after death
    Murders the innocent sleep,
    Great nature’s second course,
    And makes us rather sling the arrows of outrageous fortune
    Than fly to others that we know not of.
    There’s the respect must give us pause:
    Wake Duncan with thy knocking! I would thou couldst;
    For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
    The oppressor’s wrong, the proud man’s contumely,
    The law’s delay, and the quietus which his pangs might take,
    In the dead waste and middle of the night, when churchyards yawn
    In customary suits of solemn black,
    But that the undiscovered country from whose bourne no traveler returns,
    Breathes forth contagion on the world,
    And thus the native hue of resolution, like the poor cat i’ the adage,
    Is sicklied o’er with care,
    And all the clouds that lowered o’er our housetops,
    With this regard their currents turn awry,
    And lose the name of action.
    ‘Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished. But soft you, the fair Ophelia:
    Ope not thy ponderous and marble jaws,
    But get thee to a nunnery—go!

    Blacks, no less than their hominid cousins, are gifted at mimicry.

  55. All that blather and zero mention of her glasses.

  56. @Jack D
    @Mycale

    I know folks here are all too eager to give the Joos credit (blame) because "as we all know" they are the men behind the curtain pulling the secret levers behind EVERYTHING.

    However, you'll notice that Gay (unlike Magill BTW) withstood the initial salvos stemming from her response on 10/7 and her Congressional testimony. She even withstood the initial round of plagiarism allegations. The Corporation came out in mid-December and reaffirmed their support for her. So Joo power alone was apparently not enough to dislodge her.

    The real credit goes to the anon who sent in the 2nd round of allegations on 1/1. That was the straw that broke the camel's back.

    Generally speaking, the MSM is blaming/giving credit to "conservatives" for dethroning her, not Joos. But for the conspiracy minded, this is surely just Jooish deflection.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Santoculto, @Hunsdon

    Jackuck

    •�LOL: DCThrowback
  57. @New Dealer
    I'm feeling Gay fatigue. I'm going to say goodbye to the affair with this final link.

    It is Bill Ackman's complete and lengthy explanation for why he acted. Interestingly, it was 95% about DEI. He had not understood its new hegemony and its deleterious effects, and was appalled by what he discovered in thorough talks with faculty and students on campus. He has a record as a free-speech advocate, and says he only became concerned about the JQ when students were harshly threatened and intimidated.

    He calls for Pritzker and the rest of the Board to resign, and a new non-DEI Board appointed. And he calls for abolition of the DEI office and dismissal of all its staff.

    I know that some commenters here will consider his statement disingenuous, and I will refrain from quarreling about that. His remarks are at least interesting, and hopefully mark the beginning of the end for DEI.

    https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1742441534627184760

    Replies: @Farenheit, @Jack D, @Corpse Tooth, @Jack D, @Intelligent Dasein, @OK Boomer

    “Gay fatigue”

    I’ve grown fatigued by the use of “iconic” amongst Zoomer media robots. To a generation raised on the digital teat anything even remotely organic is “iconic.” Whilst your bete noire may disappear from public view rest assured that you’ll be seeing the now iconic Gay glasses on the faces of the robots.

  58. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jack D


    So Joo power alone was apparently not enough to dislodge her.
    Ultimately, both Hamas and the Jews deserve credit. Teamwork!

    https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/NYPICHPDPICT000058131786.jpg

    Replies: @ydydy, @Pixo

    You deserve an LOL but I wanted to make sure that this woman was one of the women who was freed in good in health before I did so.

    Alas, the internet of ’99 is no more and 5 minutes of googling did not return a definite answer.

    •�Thanks: Jenner Ickham Errican
  59. @New Dealer
    I'm feeling Gay fatigue. I'm going to say goodbye to the affair with this final link.

    It is Bill Ackman's complete and lengthy explanation for why he acted. Interestingly, it was 95% about DEI. He had not understood its new hegemony and its deleterious effects, and was appalled by what he discovered in thorough talks with faculty and students on campus. He has a record as a free-speech advocate, and says he only became concerned about the JQ when students were harshly threatened and intimidated.

    He calls for Pritzker and the rest of the Board to resign, and a new non-DEI Board appointed. And he calls for abolition of the DEI office and dismissal of all its staff.

    I know that some commenters here will consider his statement disingenuous, and I will refrain from quarreling about that. His remarks are at least interesting, and hopefully mark the beginning of the end for DEI.

    https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1742441534627184760

    Replies: @Farenheit, @Jack D, @Corpse Tooth, @Jack D, @Intelligent Dasein, @OK Boomer

    I’ve now read Ackman’s essay. Well worth reading and a massive takedown of DEI. DEI needs to be purged from our institutions.

    It is just like the system that prevailed in Communist countries where only people with proper “proletarian” backgrounds could get into college or advance in their careers. Having a “black” background (this did not mean racially – it meant that your parents were from the landlord class) meant that you would never get anywhere in the educational or power structure. Note that this was a hereditary status – the fact that your ANCESTORS had been (in effect) slave owners made you guilty and suspect.

    Also, it was not sufficient to just remain quiet – you had to actively promote the new ideology in order to advance in your profession. Only Party cadres were eligible for the most important positions even in non-political places. This was very much echoed in Comrade Kendi’s notion that there were only racists and anti-racists. If you were not an active anti-racist that meant that you were a racist. Thus the notion that anyone seeking tenure has to show how they have supported DEI and the fact that the selection committee for Harvard president ONLY looked at candidates that had met DEI criteria. (Ackman mentions that he was called a racist for even bring this up when it was a documented fact).

    I hope that Ackman succeeds in his crusade, which goes much farther than just getting rid of Gay or even the current Harvard board. The whole DEI establishment must be purged like the Maoists that they are.

    The other point that Ackman makes (whether or not the Men of Unz want to hear this) is that Jews were just the canary in the DEI coal mine – the larger thrust of the movement was against ALL settler colonialists (meaning white people). They just hadn’t gotten around to the rest.

    •�Agree: bomag
    •�Replies: @Pixo
    @Jack D

    Did Ackman and Unz have the same Harvard Freshman Comp professor?

    Rather than advocate for X, we get a long introspective essay “How I used to believe not-X, and here’s each step of how I changed my mind and my deep feelings about it.”

    Nonetheless, aside from being 25% too long, it is a great essay. From a centrist Dem to explicitly attacking anti-white racism in just a few months!

    Replies: @Jack D
    , @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    The other point that Ackman makes (whether or not the Men of Unz want to hear this) is that Jews were just the canary in the DEI coal mine – the larger thrust of the movement was against ALL settler colonialists (meaning white people). They just hadn’t gotten around to the rest.
    LOL. Where you been the last 60 years?

    Jack, from sparring with you over the last decade, I'm aware that your brain is deeply immersed in a Jewish perspective, but seriously this Jewish "canary" nonsense is just ridiculous.

    Jews are the great propagandists of minoritarianism and they've been both denigrating/slandering, and sanctioning us boring stale pale flyovers my whole life ... right on up to George Floyd murdered by the goy storm trooper b.s. DIE has been aimed at us, attacking us, stealing from us pale goyim from the get go.

    The Israeli response to the Hamas terror raid, has got Jews actually doing the whole white stormtrooper oppressing brown people--bombing and shooting and actually killing them, unlike Derek Chauvin--and in big numbers. Perfect bad whitey minoritarian propaganda. And because Jews have insisted on immigration-uber-alles, now campuses have lots of brown people--including muzzies--really jazzed up about it, plus the usual "social justice" white girls who've had their brains steeped in this minoritarian glop their whole lives and are dutifully compliant and virtue signaling. Jews have simple gotten a wake up that their usual "Holocaust!", "we're the world's greatest poor oppressed minority!" scam, simply doesn't work anymore. It's not 1967 anymore.

    In short, far from a "canary" Jews are finding out a bit about what it's like to be white--sort of. There's lots of war spin (from both sides) but American Jews still don't get completely made up shit like Wilson or Chauvin. And Jews are able to go around and blackball their antagonists and wield their checkbook--things unthinkable or even illegal for whitey.
    , @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    Agree until that last gibberish: what planet, Jack? Was it a nice planet? On this one, DIE is largely something that happened to -- and which certainly explicitly targeted -- "f'ing white males" -- with the successful result of all but ending college as an option for them. Only recently has it turned on Jews, and the only reason we have any hope of a solution here is because it did turn on Jews, whose lives, careers, and opinions matter. And nothing can expunge the role of Jews in promoting, supporting, and insisting on this garbage. It remains to be seen if they can clean up their own golem.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jack D


    The other point that Ackman makes (whether or not the Men of Unz want to hear this) is that Jews were just the canary in the DEI coal mine – the larger thrust of the movement was against ALL settler colonialists (meaning white people). They just hadn’t gotten around to the rest.
    Oh, so there was no Jew-approved and published "The 1619 Project", removal of Columbus statues, Thomas Jefferson statue in NYC, countless Confederate statues/memorials, ongoing renaming of military bases, schools, streets, etc. etc. When it comes to DEI, Jews in aggregate are guilty as hell. If they're now getting a whiff their own giftgas, they deserve it, big time.

    The Jew cries out in pain as he bullshits you. Do you feel lucky, Weimar Jack?

    Replies: @Jack D
  60. @Colin Wright
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality


    'Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?

    Why is this more interesting than the mass damage done to the economy and human lives done by the Covid Lockdowns?
    It's more interesting because (for varying reasons) we all want to forget about the Covid episode.

    It didn't happen. We're sorry. We won't do it again. Ever.

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    Says the guy who talks about the holocaust and evil not sees almost every day.

  61. @Jack D
    @Mycale

    I know folks here are all too eager to give the Joos credit (blame) because "as we all know" they are the men behind the curtain pulling the secret levers behind EVERYTHING.

    However, you'll notice that Gay (unlike Magill BTW) withstood the initial salvos stemming from her response on 10/7 and her Congressional testimony. She even withstood the initial round of plagiarism allegations. The Corporation came out in mid-December and reaffirmed their support for her. So Joo power alone was apparently not enough to dislodge her.

    The real credit goes to the anon who sent in the 2nd round of allegations on 1/1. That was the straw that broke the camel's back.

    Generally speaking, the MSM is blaming/giving credit to "conservatives" for dethroning her, not Joos. But for the conspiracy minded, this is surely just Jooish deflection.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Santoculto, @Hunsdon

    I blame the Joo Men of Unz.

  62. Wall Street Journal headline today:

    Harvard President Steps Down

    Sort of like a Nov. 1963 headline, ‘JFK Returns To Washington”

    The Journal is increasingly just regurgitating AP wire stories. Woke bias also infests there review section, with every historical reference of past Americans about whether or not they supported slavery, etc.

    For anyone not on the Narrative “Good” list, the headline would read “Gay Forced Out At Harvard”

    Why is it smart people don’t trust Big Media?

  63. @Anon
    @ydydy

    The vaccine worked, it wasn't a placebo, COVID was a real and serious illness.

    Wokeness has a bright future as long as the Right has a critical mass of delusionals.

    (And Trump won the election, right?)

    Replies: @ydydy

    Cut it out dude

  64. @Adolf Smith
    @Ralph L

    She is a coward. Why doesn't she stay and fight? She would be no worse off than she'll be now. Our Masters knew all about this plagiarism business when they hired her. She was picked to be reliably anti-white,but she momentarily forgot her place,and Master slapped her down.
    She could do so much to bring attention to genocide and the domination of our country by the Masters.

    I wonder what they're threatening to do to her? Make it public,let people see.

    "Sunshine is the best disinfectant."-Claudine Gay

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @Alden

    She’s getting paid $900,000 per year and doesn’t lose her professorship/pay after resigning. Sounds like a lot of leverage to me.

  65. Steve Sailer should write about what I want him to write about, not about what he wants to write about!

    Good lord, talk about childish.

    Steve’s blogging is free, he’s never taken the easy road, he’s made monumental contributions to the country’s political and cultural discussion … But by all means let’s be critical rather than appreciative, and let’s focus on complaining that he’s not doing what we want him to do.

    Pro-tip: If you think something needs to be blogged about and you don’t see any of your favorite bloggers doing it, then do it your own goddam self.

    •�Replies: @Pixo
    @Paleo Retiree

    Agree. There wasn’t anyone trolling Irish anti-Zionists with Oliver Cromwell and Ian Paisley imagery until I stepped forward.

    https://twitter.com/Lorlordylor/status/1741700585378767013
    , @Burnett
    @Paleo Retiree

    Preach.
  66. @Mark G.
    @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality

    Rand Paul deserves a lot of credit for continuing to dig into the origins of Covid while so many others show so little interest in it. He recently published a book on it, which I purchased as soon as it came out.

    Paul has also been one of the few members of Congress to question the wisdom of funneling large amounts of money to the corrupt Zelensky regime to continue a war whose only effect so far has been to kill large numbers of Ukrainians and enrich our military-industrial complex through weapon sales. I never hear Paul mentioned as a potential presidential candidate but I would certainly vote for him if he ran.

    Replies: @Ian Connolly

    Rand Paul supports mass immigration, endlessly panders to black people, and he’s another Zionist Israel shill

    Are you serious?

  67. I’m wondering, might Barack Obama take on the job of being President of Harvard?

    It wouldn’t be crazy. He’d be the perfect case of a supposedly qualified DEI hire. And what is he doing now that’s so important anyhow? Who outside of the right would dare to criticize him?

    And it would suit his delusions about how educated and sophisticated he is.

  68. Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down
    Never gonna run around and desert you

    Rick Astley- Never Gonna Give You Up

    She can’t help herself, or am I being trolled?

  69. @Adolf Smith
    @Ralph L

    She is a coward. Why doesn't she stay and fight? She would be no worse off than she'll be now. Our Masters knew all about this plagiarism business when they hired her. She was picked to be reliably anti-white,but she momentarily forgot her place,and Master slapped her down.
    She could do so much to bring attention to genocide and the domination of our country by the Masters.

    I wonder what they're threatening to do to her? Make it public,let people see.

    "Sunshine is the best disinfectant."-Claudine Gay

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @Alden

    She’s making 980K a year for teaching some bullshit piled higher and deeper black womens grievance course.

    BS degree bullshit MS degree more of the same PHD piled higher and deeper.

  70. Here is an article from 2022 by the always excellent Manhattan Contrarian on Gay’s shenanigans as DEI enforcer at Harvard before she was president.

    https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2022-12-15-goodnight-poor-harvard

  71. Happy new year everybody! — Claudine Gay

    How does it feel, to be loved?

  72. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jack D


    So Joo power alone was apparently not enough to dislodge her.
    Ultimately, both Hamas and the Jews deserve credit. Teamwork!

    https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/NYPICHPDPICT000058131786.jpg

    Replies: @ydydy, @Pixo

    Current score is 2k Arabs 23k Jews.

  73. @Jack D
    @New Dealer

    I've now read Ackman's essay. Well worth reading and a massive takedown of DEI. DEI needs to be purged from our institutions.

    It is just like the system that prevailed in Communist countries where only people with proper "proletarian" backgrounds could get into college or advance in their careers. Having a "black" background (this did not mean racially - it meant that your parents were from the landlord class) meant that you would never get anywhere in the educational or power structure. Note that this was a hereditary status - the fact that your ANCESTORS had been (in effect) slave owners made you guilty and suspect.

    Also, it was not sufficient to just remain quiet - you had to actively promote the new ideology in order to advance in your profession. Only Party cadres were eligible for the most important positions even in non-political places. This was very much echoed in Comrade Kendi's notion that there were only racists and anti-racists. If you were not an active anti-racist that meant that you were a racist. Thus the notion that anyone seeking tenure has to show how they have supported DEI and the fact that the selection committee for Harvard president ONLY looked at candidates that had met DEI criteria. (Ackman mentions that he was called a racist for even bring this up when it was a documented fact).

    I hope that Ackman succeeds in his crusade, which goes much farther than just getting rid of Gay or even the current Harvard board. The whole DEI establishment must be purged like the Maoists that they are.

    The other point that Ackman makes (whether or not the Men of Unz want to hear this) is that Jews were just the canary in the DEI coal mine - the larger thrust of the movement was against ALL settler colonialists (meaning white people). They just hadn't gotten around to the rest.

    Replies: @Pixo, @AnotherDad, @J.Ross, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Did Ackman and Unz have the same Harvard Freshman Comp professor?

    Rather than advocate for X, we get a long introspective essay “How I used to believe not-X, and here’s each step of how I changed my mind and my deep feelings about it.”

    Nonetheless, aside from being 25% too long, it is a great essay. From a centrist Dem to explicitly attacking anti-white racism in just a few months!

    •�Replies: @Jack D
    @Pixo

    Maybe a bit wordy but you have to see it as an appeal from a former normie who has been red pilled to other normies. He is not preaching to the choir of those who have already been converted.

    If Jews, who as the Men of Unz never cease to remind us, vote heavily Democrat and are at the core of American liberalism, can be converted to a new understanding that DIE is toxic and that they have no business putting BLM signs on their lawn when BLM would just as well see their throats cut, then there is hope for liberal whites as well.

    The Coalition of the Fringes cannot rule just as a pure coalition of the freaks and minorities when the population of the US remains 70% white. They need a certain % of normal whites on their side. If normal whites , even liberal white Jews like Ackman can be made to see the light, then there is hope.

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @Ennui
  74. @Loyalty is The First Law of Morality
    Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?

    Why is this more interesting than the mass damage done to the economy and human lives done by the Covid Lockdowns?

    Replies: @Renard, @Colin Wright, @tyrone, @tyrone, @ydydy, @Robertson, @Mark G., @AnotherDad

    Why is this more interesting than the origin of the Covid virus?

    Why is this more interesting than the mass damage done to the economy and human lives done by the Covid Lockdowns?

    I don’t think Steve’s saying it is. He just thinks it’s entertaining and worth posting.

    Personally, I happen to find it pretty lame and boring. Jack D–i believe–posted it in a comment yesterday, I read a couple sentences and thought “yawn”. Gay is not an interesting person and unlike mocking say Joe Biden utterly unimportant. And now she’s done. (I’m a tiny bit surprised Steve bothered with this now.)

    The only interesting things about the Gay case:

    — Her utter mediocrity. Harvard–Harvard really, embarrassingly stooped to go black.

    — Reiteration of totem-pole realities. Blacks are at the top of the “oppression” totem pole, but they actually control nothing and have no power. Jews are at the top of the power-pole and–despite the demographic decline Pixo helpfully fleshed out–still control/run the Parasite Party and can make elite institutions snap to.

    — Is this an indication that we’ve past peak black–the utter insanity of the past few years? I kind of think so, but nothing is for certain. Ultimately the Asian influx and over Latinization of the US don’t look good for keeping up the classic minoritarian Jews+blacks anti-white program–unless the border insanity allows massive reinforcements from Africa. (In which case America is doomed.)

    — The whole incident is a reminder of the fundamental lies at the heart of minoritarianism. Blacks have been the cudgel to beat whitey, the American people and nation. But there is just no getting around the fundamental fact, that the current black social situation is not because of our great mistake of slavery or past discrimination or vaporous “structural racism”, but simply because of blacks are on average genetically significantly less capable at “modern civilization”.

    •�Agree: deep anonymous
  75. @Paleo Retiree
    Steve Sailer should write about what I want him to write about, not about what he wants to write about!

    Good lord, talk about childish.

    Steve’s blogging is free, he’s never taken the easy road, he’s made monumental contributions to the country’s political and cultural discussion … But by all means let’s be critical rather than appreciative, and let’s focus on complaining that he’s not doing what we want him to do.

    Pro-tip: If you think something needs to be blogged about and you don’t see any of your favorite bloggers doing it, then do it your own goddam self.

    Replies: @Pixo, @Burnett

    Agree. There wasn’t anyone trolling Irish anti-Zionists with Oliver Cromwell and Ian Paisley imagery until I stepped forward.

  76. @Jack D
    @New Dealer

    I've now read Ackman's essay. Well worth reading and a massive takedown of DEI. DEI needs to be purged from our institutions.

    It is just like the system that prevailed in Communist countries where only people with proper "proletarian" backgrounds could get into college or advance in their careers. Having a "black" background (this did not mean racially - it meant that your parents were from the landlord class) meant that you would never get anywhere in the educational or power structure. Note that this was a hereditary status - the fact that your ANCESTORS had been (in effect) slave owners made you guilty and suspect.

    Also, it was not sufficient to just remain quiet - you had to actively promote the new ideology in order to advance in your profession. Only Party cadres were eligible for the most important positions even in non-political places. This was very much echoed in Comrade Kendi's notion that there were only racists and anti-racists. If you were not an active anti-racist that meant that you were a racist. Thus the notion that anyone seeking tenure has to show how they have supported DEI and the fact that the selection committee for Harvard president ONLY looked at candidates that had met DEI criteria. (Ackman mentions that he was called a racist for even bring this up when it was a documented fact).

    I hope that Ackman succeeds in his crusade, which goes much farther than just getting rid of Gay or even the current Harvard board. The whole DEI establishment must be purged like the Maoists that they are.

    The other point that Ackman makes (whether or not the Men of Unz want to hear this) is that Jews were just the canary in the DEI coal mine - the larger thrust of the movement was against ALL settler colonialists (meaning white people). They just hadn't gotten around to the rest.

    Replies: @Pixo, @AnotherDad, @J.Ross, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The other point that Ackman makes (whether or not the Men of Unz want to hear this) is that Jews were just the canary in the DEI coal mine – the larger thrust of the movement was against ALL settler colonialists (meaning white people). They just hadn’t gotten around to the rest.

    LOL. Where you been the last 60 years?

    Jack, from sparring with you over the last decade, I’m aware that your brain is deeply immersed in a Jewish perspective, but seriously this Jewish “canary” nonsense is just ridiculous.

    Jews are the great propagandists of minoritarianism and they’ve been both denigrating/slandering, and sanctioning us boring stale pale flyovers my whole life … right on up to George Floyd murdered by the goy storm trooper b.s. DIE has been aimed at us, attacking us, stealing from us pale goyim from the get go.

    The Israeli response to the Hamas terror raid, has got Jews actually doing the whole white stormtrooper oppressing brown people–bombing and shooting and actually killing them, unlike Derek Chauvin–and in big numbers. Perfect bad whitey minoritarian propaganda. And because Jews have insisted on immigration-uber-alles, now campuses have lots of brown people–including muzzies–really jazzed up about it, plus the usual “social justice” white girls who’ve had their brains steeped in this minoritarian glop their whole lives and are dutifully compliant and virtue signaling. Jews have simple gotten a wake up that their usual “Holocaust!”, “we’re the world’s greatest poor oppressed minority!” scam, simply doesn’t work anymore. It’s not 1967 anymore.

    In short, far from a “canary” Jews are finding out a bit about what it’s like to be white–sort of. There’s lots of war spin (from both sides) but American Jews still don’t get completely made up shit like Wilson or Chauvin. And Jews are able to go around and blackball their antagonists and wield their checkbook–things unthinkable or even illegal for whitey.

  77. @Pixo
    @Jack D

    Did Ackman and Unz have the same Harvard Freshman Comp professor?

    Rather than advocate for X, we get a long introspective essay “How I used to believe not-X, and here’s each step of how I changed my mind and my deep feelings about it.”

    Nonetheless, aside from being 25% too long, it is a great essay. From a centrist Dem to explicitly attacking anti-white racism in just a few months!

    Replies: @Jack D

    Maybe a bit wordy but you have to see it as an appeal from a former normie who has been red pilled to other normies. He is not preaching to the choir of those who have already been converted.

    If Jews, who as the Men of Unz never cease to remind us, vote heavily Democrat and are at the core of American liberalism, can be converted to a new understanding that DIE is toxic and that they have no business putting BLM signs on their lawn when BLM would just as well see their throats cut, then there is hope for liberal whites as well.

    The Coalition of the Fringes cannot rule just as a pure coalition of the freaks and minorities when the population of the US remains 70% white. They need a certain % of normal whites on their side. If normal whites , even liberal white Jews like Ackman can be made to see the light, then there is hope.

    •�Agree: New Dealer
    •�Replies: @deep anonymous
    @Jack D


    "If Jews, who as the Men of Unz never cease to remind us, vote heavily Democrat and are at the core of American liberalism, can be converted to a new understanding that DIE is toxic and that they have no business putting BLM signs on their lawn when BLM would just as well see their throats cut, then there is hope for liberal whites as well."

    I hope you're right about this but I don't share your optimism about liberal Whites. In my many years of observation, I think liberal Whites have a NEGATIVE inclination toward their own racial/ethnic group (I've seen polls confirming this), probably the only cohort to exhibit such a pathology. Say what you will about Jews, they tend to have a considerably healthier regard for their own community. But I suppose we can hope.
    , @Ennui
    @Jack D

    Ackerman is just going to become a GOP-affiliated neocon. Not a huge movement.

    Replies: @Jack D
  78. @Jack D
    @Pixo

    Maybe a bit wordy but you have to see it as an appeal from a former normie who has been red pilled to other normies. He is not preaching to the choir of those who have already been converted.

    If Jews, who as the Men of Unz never cease to remind us, vote heavily Democrat and are at the core of American liberalism, can be converted to a new understanding that DIE is toxic and that they have no business putting BLM signs on their lawn when BLM would just as well see their throats cut, then there is hope for liberal whites as well.

    The Coalition of the Fringes cannot rule just as a pure coalition of the freaks and minorities when the population of the US remains 70% white. They need a certain % of normal whites on their side. If normal whites , even liberal white Jews like Ackman can be made to see the light, then there is hope.

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @Ennui

    “If Jews, who as the Men of Unz never cease to remind us, vote heavily Democrat and are at the core of American liberalism, can be converted to a new understanding that DIE is toxic and that they have no business putting BLM signs on their lawn when BLM would just as well see their throats cut, then there is hope for liberal whites as well.”

    I hope you’re right about this but I don’t share your optimism about liberal Whites. In my many years of observation, I think liberal Whites have a NEGATIVE inclination toward their own racial/ethnic group (I’ve seen polls confirming this), probably the only cohort to exhibit such a pathology. Say what you will about Jews, they tend to have a considerably healthier regard for their own community. But I suppose we can hope.

  79. This is the funniest thing I’ve seen all year!

  80. @Sleep
    Thanks for beginning with a really obvious lead-in. I'm going to assume that literally every sentence of this is derived from some famous speech, but I can only pick up on about one third of them, at best.

    Replies: @Burnett

    Famous speeches and books, bookended by Tupac, Rick Astley, and Cyndi Lauper.

  81. @Jack D
    @New Dealer

    I've now read Ackman's essay. Well worth reading and a massive takedown of DEI. DEI needs to be purged from our institutions.

    It is just like the system that prevailed in Communist countries where only people with proper "proletarian" backgrounds could get into college or advance in their careers. Having a "black" background (this did not mean racially - it meant that your parents were from the landlord class) meant that you would never get anywhere in the educational or power structure. Note that this was a hereditary status - the fact that your ANCESTORS had been (in effect) slave owners made you guilty and suspect.

    Also, it was not sufficient to just remain quiet - you had to actively promote the new ideology in order to advance in your profession. Only Party cadres were eligible for the most important positions even in non-political places. This was very much echoed in Comrade Kendi's notion that there were only racists and anti-racists. If you were not an active anti-racist that meant that you were a racist. Thus the notion that anyone seeking tenure has to show how they have supported DEI and the fact that the selection committee for Harvard president ONLY looked at candidates that had met DEI criteria. (Ackman mentions that he was called a racist for even bring this up when it was a documented fact).

    I hope that Ackman succeeds in his crusade, which goes much farther than just getting rid of Gay or even the current Harvard board. The whole DEI establishment must be purged like the Maoists that they are.

    The other point that Ackman makes (whether or not the Men of Unz want to hear this) is that Jews were just the canary in the DEI coal mine - the larger thrust of the movement was against ALL settler colonialists (meaning white people). They just hadn't gotten around to the rest.

    Replies: @Pixo, @AnotherDad, @J.Ross, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Agree until that last gibberish: what planet, Jack? Was it a nice planet? On this one, DIE is largely something that happened to — and which certainly explicitly targeted — “f’ing white males” — with the successful result of all but ending college as an option for them. Only recently has it turned on Jews, and the only reason we have any hope of a solution here is because it did turn on Jews, whose lives, careers, and opinions matter. And nothing can expunge the role of Jews in promoting, supporting, and insisting on this garbage. It remains to be seen if they can clean up their own golem.

    •�Agree: Kratoklastes
  82. @New Dealer
    I'm feeling Gay fatigue. I'm going to say goodbye to the affair with this final link.

    It is Bill Ackman's complete and lengthy explanation for why he acted. Interestingly, it was 95% about DEI. He had not understood its new hegemony and its deleterious effects, and was appalled by what he discovered in thorough talks with faculty and students on campus. He has a record as a free-speech advocate, and says he only became concerned about the JQ when students were harshly threatened and intimidated.

    He calls for Pritzker and the rest of the Board to resign, and a new non-DEI Board appointed. And he calls for abolition of the DEI office and dismissal of all its staff.

    I know that some commenters here will consider his statement disingenuous, and I will refrain from quarreling about that. His remarks are at least interesting, and hopefully mark the beginning of the end for DEI.

    https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1742441534627184760

    Replies: @Farenheit, @Jack D, @Corpse Tooth, @Jack D, @Intelligent Dasein, @OK Boomer

    For what it’s worth, New Dealer, I think Ackman’s statement is a pretty real and significant phenomenon.

    •�Agree: Jack D, Mark G.
  83. @SafeNow
    There will be a movie, and a beginning caption will read “Based on a True Story” and “based on” will provide a lot of fun wiggle-room for the screenwriter. A big question: Who will play Claudine Gay? Klinger from Mash or Angel from The Rockford files would depict they needed type of character, but we don’t have a time machine. Anyway, the eyeglass frames and the haircut provide enormous latitude as far as physical resemblance goes, so the field among current actors is quite wide. Tim Roth
    maybe - - a superb talent. Of course a child actor would be needed to portray a young Claudine, pulling the wool over the eyes of her schoolteachers and parents.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Inquiring Mind, @Legba, @Adolf Smith, @anon

    Spike Lee can direct himself.

  84. Anonymous[245] •�Disclaimer says:
    @HA
    @Robertson

    "Meanwhile deaths remain suspiciously above normal in much of Europe according to Dr. John Cambell, but not from Covid. What on Earth could it be?"

    First of all, "Dr. John Campbell" is a "retired nurse educator", not a statistician or epidemiologist. (He received the Ph.D. for his work on developing methods of teaching via digital media such as online videos.) The only reason anyone at all cares about what he says is that he's a COVID truther, and most of the just-a-flu bros' other fallen heroes (e.g. Wittkowski and Malone) have found better things to do by now, but I'm guessing a retired nurse educator has more in the way of free time. Second, deaths are don't look suspiciously "above normal" in Europe as a whole for the last couple of months -- but feel free to have a look yourself -- so, absent the usual cherry-picking and data-mining, that's another strike.

    Lastly, if all this what-could-it-possibly-be scary talk is leading us to myocarditis risk, consider the fact that COVID itself is far more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine itself, so if you're trying to find someone to blame for elevated death rates in any cohort, Mr. Not-vaxxing-me, look within.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @OK Boomer

    I don’t he doubts the virus exists. I think he was pretty gung ho on protecting yourself when it first hit. He does report on side effects of the vaccine. That’s true.

    But also, the origin of the virus is something we need a full investigation of. I don’t know whether he talks about that or not. But the lack of curiosity about it among officials is bizarre.

    No, I don’t think they planned it on purpose. But it does look like some kind of research got out of hand.

    •�Replies: @HA
    @Anonymous

    "He does report on side effects of the vaccine."

    Again, if anyone wants to tell me excess mortality is higher in the last few months than back when COVID was raging, I'm going to look at the graphs I linked to and continue to believe my lying eyes. And I have no doubt that -- largely due to the stubborn refusal of people to take basic precautions like vaccination -- COVID is a gift that will keep on giving for years to come, because well before the vaccine was even available, researchers predicted as much:

    More than half of all patients reported weight loss, fatigue, fever or pain... a decrease in mobility...difficulty concentrating...generalized anxiety disorders...chest imaging abnormality... difficulty breathing.... Stomach pain, lack of appetite, diarrhea and vomiting were among the commonly reported conditions...

    According to the researchers,..in the years ahead, health care providers will likely see an influx of patients with psychiatric and cognitive problems, such as depression, anxiety or post-traumatic stress disorder, who were otherwise healthy before their COVID-19 infection.
    I'm not giving the vaccines a pass (though given the most recent Nobel Prize in medicine, it's safe to say Sweden has come in from the cold regarding its earlier outlier approach to disease management, and when it comes to vaccines, they're fully on board). One of the batches of Moderna reportedly caused an inordinate number of adverse effects, and I've seen little or no follow-up on that.

    But as with myocarditis risk, you generally want to make bet where the odds are more in your favor, and the data is still solidly in favor of vaccines as opposed to tackling the virus au naturel. Those graphs (that the just-a-flu bros were themselves touting at one point before the "eye-catching spikes" started to appear) and my lying eyes tell me so, and anecdotal evidence about your neighbor's kid who collapsed and died right after taking the jab, or something similar (e.g. like Youtube truthers monetizing the usual anti-vaxx scary talking points), is not going to sway me.
  85. It’s most important to understand that although she was unqualified for the job, she would still have the job had she not defended the right of students to criticize Israel.

    •�Replies: @Jack D
    @Carroll Price

    False. She lost her job over plagiarism and Rufo was the main driver. She had already weathered the free speech storm (which Btw was not about criticitizing Israel but about whether it was ok to advocate for genocide).

    Replies: @J.Ross
  86. @Carroll Price
    It's most important to understand that although she was unqualified for the job, she would still have the job had she not defended the right of students to criticize Israel.

    Replies: @Jack D

    False. She lost her job over plagiarism and Rufo was the main driver. She had already weathered the free speech storm (which Btw was not about criticitizing Israel but about whether it was ok to advocate for genocide).

    •�Replies: @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/deputy-knesset-speaker-calls-for-burning-gaza/

    Replies: @Jack D
  87. interim President is Alan Garber. Harvard is back to Business As Usual.

  88. As an intermittent reader of this blog, I don’t know if anyone else has mentioned this. In case no one has, Steve once said the following about plagiarism:

    My admiration for Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. leapt even higher upon learning recently that when that epitome of the line leader found himself in the mid-1950’s wasting his valuable time trying to finish an interminable Ph.D. dissertation, he triumphantly shortcut the credentialization treadmill by simply plagiarizing much of his thesis.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/where-the-races-relate/

    I hope it was tongue-in-cheek, but I wouldn’t bet on it. Advancing heterodox justifications for orthodox positions is very much a feature of iSteve.

    •�Replies: @J.Ross
    @tomv

    Why should ethics or intellectual seriousness stand in the way of a Soviet agent?
    , @Dennis Dale
    @tomv

    Steve had a clever self-preservative angle on MLK, saying he rescued the South from being an economic and cultural backwater. Sort of implying "yeah he's ultimately full of shit, but his effect was beneficial". Deft.
    This made sense at the time, because Steve was calculating good sense and justice would ultimately prevail, and the rude inconsistencies and outright lies of the civil rights movement would come out in the wash.
    Many of us felt that way quietly.
    Needless to say, this nice-guy strategy has failed us horribly, and not-very nice-guys are gleefully killing us

    This is what we boomers did. I am sorry. I don't know how to atone.

    Replies: @Jack D, @OilcanFloyd, @Mike Tre
  89. @Jack D
    @Carroll Price

    False. She lost her job over plagiarism and Rufo was the main driver. She had already weathered the free speech storm (which Btw was not about criticitizing Israel but about whether it was ok to advocate for genocide).

    Replies: @J.Ross
    •�Replies: @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    And your point is? Yes, there are some extremist MKs just like we have Ilhan Omar. Omar doesn't speak for the American government or people and people like Vaturi don't speak for the government or people of Israel.

    Vaturi is not advocating for genocide despite the sensationalized headline. He is advocating for maximum pressure to get the hostages (who are still being held BTW) back. But Israel is allowing some fuel in despite his objections and is NOT burning the whole place down.

    Of course a lot of it is being damaged because Hamas refuses to surrender and hides in civilian structures. Hamas would love nothing more than hand to hand combat where they can kill a lot of Jews, achieve martyrdom and fight on more or less equal terms, man to man. Israel is not going to play their game and lose a lot of precious Jewish boys in the process. They just call in the airstrikes. If the Hamas troops are hiding among the civilians then that's on them, the cowards.
  90. @tomv
    As an intermittent reader of this blog, I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this. In case no one has, Steve once said the following about plagiarism:

    My admiration for Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. leapt even higher upon learning recently that when that epitome of the line leader found himself in the mid-1950’s wasting his valuable time trying to finish an interminable Ph.D. dissertation, he triumphantly shortcut the credentialization treadmill by simply plagiarizing much of his thesis.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/where-the-races-relate/

    I hope it was tongue-in-cheek, but I wouldn't bet on it. Advancing heterodox justifications for orthodox positions is very much a feature of iSteve.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Dennis Dale

    Why should ethics or intellectual seriousness stand in the way of a Soviet agent?

  91. @Jack D
    @New Dealer

    I've now read Ackman's essay. Well worth reading and a massive takedown of DEI. DEI needs to be purged from our institutions.

    It is just like the system that prevailed in Communist countries where only people with proper "proletarian" backgrounds could get into college or advance in their careers. Having a "black" background (this did not mean racially - it meant that your parents were from the landlord class) meant that you would never get anywhere in the educational or power structure. Note that this was a hereditary status - the fact that your ANCESTORS had been (in effect) slave owners made you guilty and suspect.

    Also, it was not sufficient to just remain quiet - you had to actively promote the new ideology in order to advance in your profession. Only Party cadres were eligible for the most important positions even in non-political places. This was very much echoed in Comrade Kendi's notion that there were only racists and anti-racists. If you were not an active anti-racist that meant that you were a racist. Thus the notion that anyone seeking tenure has to show how they have supported DEI and the fact that the selection committee for Harvard president ONLY looked at candidates that had met DEI criteria. (Ackman mentions that he was called a racist for even bring this up when it was a documented fact).

    I hope that Ackman succeeds in his crusade, which goes much farther than just getting rid of Gay or even the current Harvard board. The whole DEI establishment must be purged like the Maoists that they are.

    The other point that Ackman makes (whether or not the Men of Unz want to hear this) is that Jews were just the canary in the DEI coal mine - the larger thrust of the movement was against ALL settler colonialists (meaning white people). They just hadn't gotten around to the rest.

    Replies: @Pixo, @AnotherDad, @J.Ross, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The other point that Ackman makes (whether or not the Men of Unz want to hear this) is that Jews were just the canary in the DEI coal mine – the larger thrust of the movement was against ALL settler colonialists (meaning white people). They just hadn’t gotten around to the rest.

    Oh, so there was no Jew-approved and published “The 1619 Project”, removal of Columbus statues, Thomas Jefferson statue in NYC, countless Confederate statues/memorials, ongoing renaming of military bases, schools, streets, etc. etc. When it comes to DEI, Jews in aggregate are guilty as hell. If they’re now getting a whiff their own giftgas, they deserve it, big time.

    The Jew cries out in pain as he bullshits you. Do you feel lucky, Weimar Jack?

    •�Replies: @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You're delusional. This was not a "Jewish" project. The people who own the NY Times haven't been Jewish for several generations. They are baptized and 3/4 Protestant by blood. What will it take for them not to be Jewish anymore? Even in Nazi Germany they could have gotten Aryan Certificates but not good enough for Mr. Amurrican.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Ennui
  92. @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/deputy-knesset-speaker-calls-for-burning-gaza/

    Replies: @Jack D

    And your point is? Yes, there are some extremist MKs just like we have Ilhan Omar. Omar doesn’t speak for the American government or people and people like Vaturi don’t speak for the government or people of Israel.

    Vaturi is not advocating for genocide despite the sensationalized headline. He is advocating for maximum pressure to get the hostages (who are still being held BTW) back. But Israel is allowing some fuel in despite his objections and is NOT burning the whole place down.

    Of course a lot of it is being damaged because Hamas refuses to surrender and hides in civilian structures. Hamas would love nothing more than hand to hand combat where they can kill a lot of Jews, achieve martyrdom and fight on more or less equal terms, man to man. Israel is not going to play their game and lose a lot of precious Jewish boys in the process. They just call in the airstrikes. If the Hamas troops are hiding among the civilians then that’s on them, the cowards.

  93. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jack D


    The other point that Ackman makes (whether or not the Men of Unz want to hear this) is that Jews were just the canary in the DEI coal mine – the larger thrust of the movement was against ALL settler colonialists (meaning white people). They just hadn’t gotten around to the rest.
    Oh, so there was no Jew-approved and published "The 1619 Project", removal of Columbus statues, Thomas Jefferson statue in NYC, countless Confederate statues/memorials, ongoing renaming of military bases, schools, streets, etc. etc. When it comes to DEI, Jews in aggregate are guilty as hell. If they're now getting a whiff their own giftgas, they deserve it, big time.

    The Jew cries out in pain as he bullshits you. Do you feel lucky, Weimar Jack?

    Replies: @Jack D

    You’re delusional. This was not a “Jewish” project. The people who own the NY Times haven’t been Jewish for several generations. They are baptized and 3/4 Protestant by blood. What will it take for them not to be Jewish anymore? Even in Nazi Germany they could have gotten Aryan Certificates but not good enough for Mr. Amurrican.

    •�Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jack D


    You’re delusional. This was not a “Jewish” project. The people who own the NY Times haven’t been Jewish for several generations. They are baptized and 3/4 Protestant by blood.
    Really. What’s the Cohencidental Jewish blood quantum of these fine random individuals?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times#Ochs-Sulzberger_family

    The Ochs-Sulzberger family trust controls roughly 88 percent of the company's class B shares. Any alteration to the dual-class structure must be ratified by six of eight directors who sit on the board of the Ochs-Sulzberger family trust. The trust board members are Daniel H. Cohen, James M. Cohen, Lynn G. Dolnick, Susan W. Dryfoos, Michael Golden, Eric M. A. Lax, Arthur O. Sulzberger Jr., and Cathy J. Sulzberger.
    Hmmm, I wonder if minor player “Jake Silverstein” is coincidentally Jewish:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1619_Project#August_18,_2019,_magazine_issue

    August 18, 2019, magazine issue

    The first edition appeared in a 100-page issue of The New York Times Magazine on August 18, 2019. It included ten written essays, a photo essay, and a collection of poems and fiction, with an introduction by editor-in-chief Jake Silverstein, as follows:
    Jeez, I wonder if coincidentally that three out of the four editors of “The 1619 Project” book (separate from the magazine issue) are Jews:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1619_Project#Accompanying_material_and_activities

    In November 2021, Random House's One World imprint published the anthology The 1619 Project: A New Origin Story. It is a book-length expansion of the project's essays. The book was created by Nikole Hannah-Jones and The New York Times Magazine, and is edited by Hannah-Jones, Caitlin Roper, Ilena Silverman and Jake Silverstein.
    If you want confirmation on Roper, here ya go:

    https://rebooting.com/article/weekly-unscrolled-torah-portion/

    Caitlin Roper is the executive producer for scripted projects at The New York Times. There is a vhs tape of her silently mouthing “fuck you” from the bimah to a friend in the audience during her bat mitzvah at Temple Beth El, in Berkeley, CA on Dec. 29, 1990.
    Wow Jack, that’s a whole lot of 'unexpected' coincidences occurring at Eastern Standard Time, from ownership to execution.

    Do you still claim the The 1619 Project was not a Jewish project?

    Replies: @Jack D
    , @Ennui
    @Jack D

    Dunno Jack, if they feel very strongly attached to that one Jewish great-grandparent, they might as well be kosher per the rabbis. They will act on that connection.

    I think Bolton or the late Michael Gerson are good examples of Gentiles per Rabbinic law with some Jewish ancestry who felt strongly connected to their Jewish roots.

    There are plenty of Christian Dispensationalists who would kill for Jewish ancestry. I've known a few Evangelicals that made dang sure you knew that granny was a convert, solidifying their Abrahamic credentials. It's almost, but not quite, something akin to the Muslims and sayyid status.
  94. @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You're delusional. This was not a "Jewish" project. The people who own the NY Times haven't been Jewish for several generations. They are baptized and 3/4 Protestant by blood. What will it take for them not to be Jewish anymore? Even in Nazi Germany they could have gotten Aryan Certificates but not good enough for Mr. Amurrican.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Ennui

    You’re delusional. This was not a “Jewish” project. The people who own the NY Times haven’t been Jewish for several generations. They are baptized and 3/4 Protestant by blood.

    Really. What’s the Cohencidental Jewish blood quantum of these fine random individuals?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times#Ochs-Sulzberger_family

    The Ochs-Sulzberger family trust controls roughly 88 percent of the company’s class B shares. Any alteration to the dual-class structure must be ratified by six of eight directors who sit on the board of the Ochs-Sulzberger family trust. The trust board members are Daniel H. Cohen, James M. Cohen, Lynn G. Dolnick, Susan W. Dryfoos, Michael Golden, Eric M. A. Lax, Arthur O. Sulzberger Jr., and Cathy J. Sulzberger.

    Hmmm, I wonder if minor player “Jake Silverstein” is coincidentally Jewish:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1619_Project#August_18,_2019,_magazine_issue

    August 18, 2019, magazine issue

    The first edition appeared in a 100-page issue of The New York Times Magazine on August 18, 2019. It included ten written essays, a photo essay, and a collection of poems and fiction, with an introduction by editor-in-chief Jake Silverstein, as follows:

    Jeez, I wonder if coincidentally that three out of the four editors of “The 1619 Project” book (separate from the magazine issue) are Jews:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1619_Project#Accompanying_material_and_activities

    In November 2021, Random House’s One World imprint published the anthology The 1619 Project: A New Origin Story. It is a book-length expansion of the project’s essays. The book was created by Nikole Hannah-Jones and The New York Times Magazine, and is edited by Hannah-Jones, Caitlin Roper, Ilena Silverman and Jake Silverstein.

    If you want confirmation on Roper, here ya go:

    https://rebooting.com/article/weekly-unscrolled-torah-portion/

    Caitlin Roper is the executive producer for scripted projects at The New York Times. There is a vhs tape of her silently mouthing “fuck you” from the bimah to a friend in the audience during her bat mitzvah at Temple Beth El, in Berkeley, CA on Dec. 29, 1990.

    Wow Jack, that’s a whole lot of ‘unexpected’ coincidences occurring at Eastern Standard Time, from ownership to execution.

    Do you still claim the The 1619 Project was not a Jewish project?

    •�Replies: @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I don't know about the others, but the ones named Sulzberger aren't Jewish and haven't been for several generations.

    Regardless of their previous contributions to DIE (this always struck me as more of a black project than a Jewish one ), American Jews are now at a crossroads. See this article in The Atlantic by Conor Friedersdorf (not Jewish):

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/01/october-7-changed-americas-free-speech-culture-israel-hamas/677011/

    The gist of it is that American Jews can go two ways: one is to demand that they be added to the list of DIE protected pets (which they have not been up until now) and the other is to reject the whole thing.

    According to the Men of Unz, Jews are still powerful. Even if DIE is their golem gone wild, they can use their magic incantations to still it (Donatio terminosum!) or they can climb on its shoulders. But apparently in classic alt.right self defeating fashion , rather than welcome a new convert (as the Episcopal Church welcomed the Sulzburgers) you would rather revel in schadenfreude than plot a path forward with the icky Jews on your side.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  95. @Ralph L
    There's Claudine Gay falling under a Stonewall! Rally behind the Virgins!

    Replies: @Old Prude

    LOL. I used up all my buttons before the first ten comments. Men of Unz rock! Thanks to all for a good chuckle over morning coffee.

  96. @HA
    @Robertson

    "Meanwhile deaths remain suspiciously above normal in much of Europe according to Dr. John Cambell, but not from Covid. What on Earth could it be?"

    First of all, "Dr. John Campbell" is a "retired nurse educator", not a statistician or epidemiologist. (He received the Ph.D. for his work on developing methods of teaching via digital media such as online videos.) The only reason anyone at all cares about what he says is that he's a COVID truther, and most of the just-a-flu bros' other fallen heroes (e.g. Wittkowski and Malone) have found better things to do by now, but I'm guessing a retired nurse educator has more in the way of free time. Second, deaths are don't look suspiciously "above normal" in Europe as a whole for the last couple of months -- but feel free to have a look yourself -- so, absent the usual cherry-picking and data-mining, that's another strike.

    Lastly, if all this what-could-it-possibly-be scary talk is leading us to myocarditis risk, consider the fact that COVID itself is far more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine itself, so if you're trying to find someone to blame for elevated death rates in any cohort, Mr. Not-vaxxing-me, look within.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @OK Boomer

    I don’t see the benefit in “COVID itself is far more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine itself”. The RNA vaccines were never approved for lowering the risk of catching COVID, so, if you get the Trump-Kariko-Kizzmekkia shot, you have the risk of covid-caused myocarditis that everyone has, plus an extra risk from the vaccine.

    Of course, the Trumpers, the Karikans and the Kizzmekkians will all say we should move on, since pointing out things like those in my first paragraph show the American boomer government, the Sacred Cows of the progressive Western youth, and the Western science being useless, at the very least, their decisions and “discoveries” as useful as those of the Congolese.

    If anything, Congo was even less impacted by covid.

    •�Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @OK Boomer


    The RNA vaccines were never approved for lowering the risk of catching COVID
    This is a blatant lie, as long as you substitute "emergency authorized" for "approved."

    May still be a lie now that the FDA has advanced to Official approval, because while neither vaccines nor (most?) natural immunity provides long term sterilizing immunity to coronaviruses, what you say later claiming mRNA vaccines are completely useless is a further blatant lie. The vaccines reduced morbidity and mortality, both of which including up to six month delayed mortality were very significant for classic Wuhan as seen in 2020 before anyone got vaccinated. And as far as I discerned back in 2021-22 that included the first two major variants of COVID, Alpha and Delta.

    Weasel wording because you have to do very careful epidemiology to get any confidence about results, for example by Omicron around the beginning of 2022 the game had changed, but perhaps in part because almost everyone had some natural and/or vaccine immunity.

    And I read one study or preprint abstract which claimed sharply lower morbidity for a third of the patients studied, who'd gained immunity to some very conserved universal or thereabouts coronavirus proteins, not the spike S or nucleocapsid N but ones concerned with basic reproduction. Was thought to be a clue to why bad outcomes were so unpredictable.

    If anything, Congo was even less impacted by covid.
    Maybe because its population pyramid is exactly shaped like one, very few older folks to die from it? Compare to the US which is more like a cylinder until people get into their 60s.

    You anti-vaxxers might get some purchase if you'd cease blatantly lying, but you haven't stopped in everything I've read since November 2020. You've cried wolf so many times no one with a clue buys anything you say, which will be bad if you actually find something of concern.

    But as of now you've demonstrated almost everything the Left said about the Right is true, and that the Right is not all that far from being as much of an existential threat to humanity as the Left is, especially if you subtract the Extinctionism Musk is calling out which I also see on the Right. It's why he's so concerned about "AI," it's developed by them and thus "it's utility function will be the extinction of humanity." These people are a major reason he bought Twitter.

    Replies: @OK Boomer
  97. A black Harvard Law School professor whom former Harvard University president Claudine Gay helped demote years ago responded to Gay’s resignation on Tuesday with one word.

    “Karma,” wrote Ronald Sullivan Jr. in a since-deleted post on X, formerly Twitter.

    https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/karma-black-harvard-professor-demoted-under-claudine-gay-responds-to-gays-resignation/

    None of the MSM report anything near what the FreeBeacon and the Daily Mail do. Pathetic.

  98. Respectfully, all the tee-heeing seems to miss the real point here (which of course may be the point), but we may have just witnessed the Jews bankrupting themselves of what goodwill remains out there.
    This is coming like a last mad flex before things get ugly.
    They have lost control of the narrative, they’ve lost the young, and they’re even losing boomers every day. If the Ackmans of the world think they’re going to come in and selectively replace their anti-semitic anti-whites and keep cruisin’, they’re in for a surprise. But I suspect those in charge are making that calculation, and are thinking no more pussy-footing around with the gentiles, time to use a heavier hand.

    And the Rufos promise to go out and round them up, playing the capo, keeping the others in line. We should at least make Chris et al wear funny looking uniforms.

    •�Replies: @Jack D
    @Dennis Dale

    We were already past peak DIE anyway. BLM signs on your lawn are SO 2020. The Supreme Court has abolished AA in college admissions. A number of states have outlawed DIE and the next Congress might ban it on the Federal level. Yes, the next generation is browner than before but not really blacker. Asians and Latinos (esp. Asians) have as much to lose from DIE and CRT as the have to gain. White girls who wear kaffiyehs this year will choose another fashion if that's the in thing to do. The game is by no means over.

    I know that the Men of Unz prefer to have a Bonfire of the Vanities and burn the whole Establishment down or just revel in the Jews getting a taste of "their own medicine" but here is a rare opportunity to be on the winning side. But the Men of Unz have defined their identity as being losers (America's glory was in their childhood - it's all downhill now) and will surely do their best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. You should be jumping for joy at what Rufo did (even now the Left is plotting to replace Gay with another black female DIE advocate - this time we will just vet her better!) and instead you call him a capo because he has icky Jewish allies.
  99. @tomv
    As an intermittent reader of this blog, I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this. In case no one has, Steve once said the following about plagiarism:

    My admiration for Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. leapt even higher upon learning recently that when that epitome of the line leader found himself in the mid-1950’s wasting his valuable time trying to finish an interminable Ph.D. dissertation, he triumphantly shortcut the credentialization treadmill by simply plagiarizing much of his thesis.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/where-the-races-relate/

    I hope it was tongue-in-cheek, but I wouldn't bet on it. Advancing heterodox justifications for orthodox positions is very much a feature of iSteve.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Dennis Dale

    Steve had a clever self-preservative angle on MLK, saying he rescued the South from being an economic and cultural backwater. Sort of implying “yeah he’s ultimately full of shit, but his effect was beneficial”. Deft.
    This made sense at the time, because Steve was calculating good sense and justice would ultimately prevail, and the rude inconsistencies and outright lies of the civil rights movement would come out in the wash.
    Many of us felt that way quietly.
    Needless to say, this nice-guy strategy has failed us horribly, and not-very nice-guys are gleefully killing us

    This is what we boomers did. I am sorry. I don’t know how to atone.

    •�Thanks: New Dealer
    •�Replies: @Jack D
    @Dennis Dale

    There was a feeling that Atlanta was the "town that was too busy to hate". Whether it was true or not, it made a lot of Yankees and big corporations comfortable with relocating to Atlanta in a way that they would not have been moving to Selma or Montgomery and contributed to it becoming the new business capital of the South.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    , @OilcanFloyd
    @Dennis Dale


    Steve had a clever self-preservative angle on MLK, saying he rescued the South from being an economic and cultural backwater.
    Economic and cultural backwater? Compared to what? The rest of the nation isn't exactly 18th century Dresden, and the economy isn't that great, either, unless you count the pockets of vast wealth for the few.

    I have no great affection for the Old South and its aristocrats, but I don't doubt for a second that the southern populists and segregationists of the 1950s and 1960s could have created a better society for whites in the South than the burnouts and retards running the rest of the nation did.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dennis Dale
    , @Mike Tre
    @Dennis Dale

    Glenn Reynolds and all of the nobodies-who-think-they're-somebodies that contribute to his feed all pay homage to Michael da Kangz and advocate for putting Harriet Tubman on the 10 dollar bill.

    This are the kinds of cucks who step in front of each other to shake the hand of the one black guy at CPAC.

    Anyone who seriously believes Michael da Kangz did anything for the betterment of the USA is daft, not deft.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale
  100. With a tip of the hat to Jim Reeves:

    Claudine goodbye, Claudine goodbye,
    Goodbye Claudine, Goodbye Claudine,
    I’ll see you in my nightmares.

  101. HA says:
    @Anonymous
    @HA

    I don’t he doubts the virus exists. I think he was pretty gung ho on protecting yourself when it first hit. He does report on side effects of the vaccine. That’s true.

    But also, the origin of the virus is something we need a full investigation of. I don’t know whether he talks about that or not. But the lack of curiosity about it among officials is bizarre.

    No, I don’t think they planned it on purpose. But it does look like some kind of research got out of hand.

    Replies: @HA

    “He does report on side effects of the vaccine.”

    Again, if anyone wants to tell me excess mortality is higher in the last few months than back when COVID was raging, I’m going to look at the graphs I linked to and continue to believe my lying eyes. And I have no doubt that — largely due to the stubborn refusal of people to take basic precautions like vaccination — COVID is a gift that will keep on giving for years to come, because well before the vaccine was even available, researchers predicted as much:

    More than half of all patients reported weight loss, fatigue, fever or pain… a decrease in mobility…difficulty concentrating…generalized anxiety disorders…chest imaging abnormality… difficulty breathing…. Stomach pain, lack of appetite, diarrhea and vomiting were among the commonly reported conditions…

    According to the researchers,..in the years ahead, health care providers will likely see an influx of patients with psychiatric and cognitive problems, such as depression, anxiety or post-traumatic stress disorder, who were otherwise healthy before their COVID-19 infection.

    I’m not giving the vaccines a pass (though given the most recent Nobel Prize in medicine, it’s safe to say Sweden has come in from the cold regarding its earlier outlier approach to disease management, and when it comes to vaccines, they’re fully on board). One of the batches of Moderna reportedly caused an inordinate number of adverse effects, and I’ve seen little or no follow-up on that.

    But as with myocarditis risk, you generally want to make bet where the odds are more in your favor, and the data is still solidly in favor of vaccines as opposed to tackling the virus au naturel. Those graphs (that the just-a-flu bros were themselves touting at one point before the “eye-catching spikes” started to appear) and my lying eyes tell me so, and anecdotal evidence about your neighbor’s kid who collapsed and died right after taking the jab, or something similar (e.g. like Youtube truthers monetizing the usual anti-vaxx scary talking points), is not going to sway me.

  102. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jack D


    You’re delusional. This was not a “Jewish” project. The people who own the NY Times haven’t been Jewish for several generations. They are baptized and 3/4 Protestant by blood.
    Really. What’s the Cohencidental Jewish blood quantum of these fine random individuals?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times#Ochs-Sulzberger_family

    The Ochs-Sulzberger family trust controls roughly 88 percent of the company's class B shares. Any alteration to the dual-class structure must be ratified by six of eight directors who sit on the board of the Ochs-Sulzberger family trust. The trust board members are Daniel H. Cohen, James M. Cohen, Lynn G. Dolnick, Susan W. Dryfoos, Michael Golden, Eric M. A. Lax, Arthur O. Sulzberger Jr., and Cathy J. Sulzberger.
    Hmmm, I wonder if minor player “Jake Silverstein” is coincidentally Jewish:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1619_Project#August_18,_2019,_magazine_issue

    August 18, 2019, magazine issue

    The first edition appeared in a 100-page issue of The New York Times Magazine on August 18, 2019. It included ten written essays, a photo essay, and a collection of poems and fiction, with an introduction by editor-in-chief Jake Silverstein, as follows:
    Jeez, I wonder if coincidentally that three out of the four editors of “The 1619 Project” book (separate from the magazine issue) are Jews:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1619_Project#Accompanying_material_and_activities

    In November 2021, Random House's One World imprint published the anthology The 1619 Project: A New Origin Story. It is a book-length expansion of the project's essays. The book was created by Nikole Hannah-Jones and The New York Times Magazine, and is edited by Hannah-Jones, Caitlin Roper, Ilena Silverman and Jake Silverstein.
    If you want confirmation on Roper, here ya go:

    https://rebooting.com/article/weekly-unscrolled-torah-portion/

    Caitlin Roper is the executive producer for scripted projects at The New York Times. There is a vhs tape of her silently mouthing “fuck you” from the bimah to a friend in the audience during her bat mitzvah at Temple Beth El, in Berkeley, CA on Dec. 29, 1990.
    Wow Jack, that’s a whole lot of 'unexpected' coincidences occurring at Eastern Standard Time, from ownership to execution.

    Do you still claim the The 1619 Project was not a Jewish project?

    Replies: @Jack D

    I don’t know about the others, but the ones named Sulzberger aren’t Jewish and haven’t been for several generations.

    Regardless of their previous contributions to DIE (this always struck me as more of a black project than a Jewish one ), American Jews are now at a crossroads. See this article in The Atlantic by Conor Friedersdorf (not Jewish):

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/01/october-7-changed-americas-free-speech-culture-israel-hamas/677011/

    The gist of it is that American Jews can go two ways: one is to demand that they be added to the list of DIE protected pets (which they have not been up until now) and the other is to reject the whole thing.

    According to the Men of Unz, Jews are still powerful. Even if DIE is their golem gone wild, they can use their magic incantations to still it (Donatio terminosum!) or they can climb on its shoulders. But apparently in classic alt.right self defeating fashion , rather than welcome a new convert (as the Episcopal Church welcomed the Sulzburgers) you would rather revel in schadenfreude than plot a path forward with the icky Jews on your side.

    •�Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jack D


    I don’t know about the others
    Look at the names, Jack. Of the ownership, of the eight at best only Lax is not Jewish.

    but the ones named Sulzberger aren’t Jewish and haven’t been for several generations
    Your “several generations” lie doesn’t fly: You admitted (in a roundabout way) that NYT chairman and publisher A.G. Sulzberger is 1/4 Jewish by blood, which is significantly Jewish. The Sulzbergers are Jews and have typical Jewish anti-White motives as shown by their actions. Not surprisingly, A.G. Sulzberger employed willing fellow Jews to execute the project. “The 1619 Project” is a Jewish project.

    rather than welcome a new convert (as the Episcopal Church welcomed the Sulzburgers)
    LOL. Ever hear of Marranos? There needs to be an inquisition first. I want to see credible acts of faith.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Ochs_Sulzberger_Jr.#Early_life_and_education

    [A.O.] Sulzberger's parents divorced when he was five years old. He was raised in his mother's Episcopal faith; however, he no longer observes any religion.
    Likewise, Bill Ackman’s belated ‘conversion’ doesn’t yet count, but I like the noises he’s making. If he’s smart, he’ll become explicitly and outspokenly pro-White, as a Jewish ally of Whites. He should be exhorting his fellow Jews to do likewise, and without lying by claiming to be “fellow whites”.

    The only path forward for Jews wanting to avoid destruction as a tribe is to not shy from correctly identifying as Jews, as distinct from White, and to be explicitly pro-White, in opposition to all anti-Whites. That includes calling out all Jewish anti-Whites, including scum like the Sulzbergers. Clean up the Tribe from within. (If A.G. Sulzberger wants to publicly disavow his known Jewish status, he's welcome to try, LOL. “Jewish? Heavens no. Uh, my father is, or was, an “Episcopalian”! Of sorts. That’s the ticket! Tally ho, my fellow whites!”)

    A.O. is a Jew; his son A.G. is a Jew. A.G. is no doubt aware of his Jewish heritage and takes actions in a typical Tribal anti-White manner.

    According to the Men of Unz, Jews are still powerful.
    According to me Jews are more friendless than ever since WWII, and better earnestly start kissing White ass, start promoting Whiteness in opposition to anti-Whiteness, and better stop lying, like you continue to do. Difficulty level for most Jews on all that—damn near impossible.

    Replies: @Jack D
  103. I promise to never give you up, to never let you down, to never run around and desert you. To never make you cry, never say goodbye, or tell a lie and hurt you. After my picture fades, and darkness has turned to gray, watching through windows, you’re wondering if I’m okay. If you’re lost you can look and you will find me, time after time.

    OK, I actually burst out laughing.

  104. @Dennis Dale
    @tomv

    Steve had a clever self-preservative angle on MLK, saying he rescued the South from being an economic and cultural backwater. Sort of implying "yeah he's ultimately full of shit, but his effect was beneficial". Deft.
    This made sense at the time, because Steve was calculating good sense and justice would ultimately prevail, and the rude inconsistencies and outright lies of the civil rights movement would come out in the wash.
    Many of us felt that way quietly.
    Needless to say, this nice-guy strategy has failed us horribly, and not-very nice-guys are gleefully killing us

    This is what we boomers did. I am sorry. I don't know how to atone.

    Replies: @Jack D, @OilcanFloyd, @Mike Tre

    There was a feeling that Atlanta was the “town that was too busy to hate”. Whether it was true or not, it made a lot of Yankees and big corporations comfortable with relocating to Atlanta in a way that they would not have been moving to Selma or Montgomery and contributed to it becoming the new business capital of the South.

    •�Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack D

    It also helped that Atlanta's location made it a natural for a big airport hub.

    But, yes, the business climate in the 70s and 80s was quite welcoming and they kept the black morons in check enough so that Yankees would feel safe.

    Replies: @Jack D
  105. Mmm…yeah, sounds ’bout right. A tasteless verbal fruit salad cobbled together by an empty suit. Gay Claudine’s set for life though. The former First Negro will procure a job for her somewhere.

  106. @Dennis Dale
    Respectfully, all the tee-heeing seems to miss the real point here (which of course may be the point), but we may have just witnessed the Jews bankrupting themselves of what goodwill remains out there.
    This is coming like a last mad flex before things get ugly.
    They have lost control of the narrative, they've lost the young, and they're even losing boomers every day. If the Ackmans of the world think they're going to come in and selectively replace their anti-semitic anti-whites and keep cruisin', they're in for a surprise. But I suspect those in charge are making that calculation, and are thinking no more pussy-footing around with the gentiles, time to use a heavier hand.

    And the Rufos promise to go out and round them up, playing the capo, keeping the others in line. We should at least make Chris et al wear funny looking uniforms.

    Replies: @Jack D

    We were already past peak DIE anyway. BLM signs on your lawn are SO 2020. The Supreme Court has abolished AA in college admissions. A number of states have outlawed DIE and the next Congress might ban it on the Federal level. Yes, the next generation is browner than before but not really blacker. Asians and Latinos (esp. Asians) have as much to lose from DIE and CRT as the have to gain. White girls who wear kaffiyehs this year will choose another fashion if that’s the in thing to do. The game is by no means over.

    I know that the Men of Unz prefer to have a Bonfire of the Vanities and burn the whole Establishment down or just revel in the Jews getting a taste of “their own medicine” but here is a rare opportunity to be on the winning side. But the Men of Unz have defined their identity as being losers (America’s glory was in their childhood – it’s all downhill now) and will surely do their best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. You should be jumping for joy at what Rufo did (even now the Left is plotting to replace Gay with another black female DIE advocate – this time we will just vet her better!) and instead you call him a capo because he has icky Jewish allies.

  107. @Jack D
    @Dennis Dale

    There was a feeling that Atlanta was the "town that was too busy to hate". Whether it was true or not, it made a lot of Yankees and big corporations comfortable with relocating to Atlanta in a way that they would not have been moving to Selma or Montgomery and contributed to it becoming the new business capital of the South.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    It also helped that Atlanta’s location made it a natural for a big airport hub.

    But, yes, the business climate in the 70s and 80s was quite welcoming and they kept the black morons in check enough so that Yankees would feel safe.

    •�Replies: @Jack D
    @Jim Don Bob

    Not really. Birmingham is only 150 miles due west and it could have just as easily been the airline hub. That's 15 minutes flying time.

    In 1950, their metro populations were roughly the same. Now Atlanta has 7x as many people.
  108. Chris Rufo’s WSJ editorial on how “we” got Gay.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-we-squeezed-harvard-claudine-gay-firing-dei-antisemitism-culture-war-a6843c4c?mod=mhp

    https://archive.is/4JYSv

    What changed? First, public support for DEI has cratered. Following the outpouring of sympathy on elite campuses for Hamas’s war of “decolonization” against Israel, many Americans—including many center-left liberals—became aware of the ideological rot within academic institutions. They began to question the sweet-sounding euphemisms of DEI and examine what they mean in practice.
    Second, the political right has learned how to fight more effectively. As one of the journalists who first exposed the similarities between Ms. Gay’s published work and that of other scholars, I watched the political dynamics develop from the inside. The key, I learned, is that any activist campaign has three points of leverage: reputational, financial and political. For some institutions, one point of leverage is enough, but, for a powerful one such as Harvard, the “squeeze” must work across multiple angles.
    This is precisely what happened. Journalists—including the independent reporter Christopher Brunet and the Washington Free Beacon’s Aaron Sibarium—applied reputational pressure, exposing Ms. Gay’s alleged plagiarism and Harvard’s scandalous effort to cover it up. Donors, led by hedge-fund manager Bill Ackman, applied financial pressure, withholding a billion dollars in contributions. And Congress, under the leadership of Rep. Elise Stefanik (R., N.Y.), applied political pressure, exposing Ms. Gay’s equivocations on antisemitism and threatening consequences for inaction.

    •�Thanks: MEH 0910
    •�Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo
    @J.Ross

    I saw an article in the past few days with the headline of "Conservative mastermind Chris Rufo ..." Mastermind! I mean, I guess he's pretty smart, but more than anything he reminds me of your big brother's cool friend with the Camaro who always had a little weed to share.
    , @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    Here is a rare conservative victory and you put "we" in scare quotes because you don't want to be associated with the icky Joos like Ackman who also helped? The Men of Unz are their own worst enemies.

    Rufo correctly states that the pressure points on universities are reputational (press) , economic (donors) and political (Congress). Without the full triad, there is no changing them - Project DIE will steam on. Do Jews have anything to do with any of these 3 such that you would want them on "your" side? Or are the Men of Unz overgrown teenagers with oppositional defiant disorder and are only happy when they are losing?

    Replies: @J.Ross
  109. @Robertson
    Foxnews.com is reporting that Claudine Gay is likely to keep her $900,000 a year salary even if demoted to a mere professor. That's an "elegant" falling on one's sword if there ever was one. Baryshnikov-esque (remember him? The memory hole is a deep murky puddle, no?).

    In other news, the Maine Attorney General that ousted Trump from the ballot claims that voter I.D. laws are "rooted in white supremacy".

    Arguing with people of this calibre is impossible if they are allowed to insist voodoo dolls and bad juju are real and you have somehow hexed them whenever they blunder.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross, @bomag, @Prester John

    I thought it was the Maine Secretary of State who knocked Trump off the ballot. No matter–both the AG and SoS are elected, not appointed, so the argument can be made that this act was done with the blessing of the Maine electorate.

    Maine is one of the whitest states in the US. What a hoot!

    •�Replies: @FPD72
    @Prester John


    I thought it was the Maine Secretary of State who knocked Trump off the ballot. No matter–both the AG and SoS are elected, not appointed, so the argument can be made that this act was done with the blessing of the Maine electorate.
    The SoS of Maine is elected, but not by the voters of the state. Instead, the SoS is elected by the state legislature. Only if you limit “the electorate” to members of the legislature is your last sentence not false
  110. Chris marches Gay to the gallows, glimpses his sold-out soul, is dispatched.

  111. @J.Ross
    Chris Rufo's WSJ editorial on how "we" got Gay.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-we-squeezed-harvard-claudine-gay-firing-dei-antisemitism-culture-war-a6843c4c?mod=mhp

    https://archive.is/4JYSv

    What changed? First, public support for DEI has cratered. Following the outpouring of sympathy on elite campuses for Hamas’s war of “decolonization” against Israel, many Americans—including many center-left liberals—became aware of the ideological rot within academic institutions. They began to question the sweet-sounding euphemisms of DEI and examine what they mean in practice.
    Second, the political right has learned how to fight more effectively. As one of the journalists who first exposed the similarities between Ms. Gay’s published work and that of other scholars, I watched the political dynamics develop from the inside. The key, I learned, is that any activist campaign has three points of leverage: reputational, financial and political. For some institutions, one point of leverage is enough, but, for a powerful one such as Harvard, the “squeeze” must work across multiple angles.
    This is precisely what happened. Journalists—including the independent reporter Christopher Brunet and the Washington Free Beacon’s Aaron Sibarium—applied reputational pressure, exposing Ms. Gay’s alleged plagiarism and Harvard’s scandalous effort to cover it up. Donors, led by hedge-fund manager Bill Ackman, applied financial pressure, withholding a billion dollars in contributions. And Congress, under the leadership of Rep. Elise Stefanik (R., N.Y.), applied political pressure, exposing Ms. Gay’s equivocations on antisemitism and threatening consequences for inaction.

    Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo, @Jack D

    I saw an article in the past few days with the headline of “Conservative mastermind Chris Rufo …” Mastermind! I mean, I guess he’s pretty smart, but more than anything he reminds me of your big brother’s cool friend with the Camaro who always had a little weed to share.

  112. @Jim Don Bob
    @Jack D

    It also helped that Atlanta's location made it a natural for a big airport hub.

    But, yes, the business climate in the 70s and 80s was quite welcoming and they kept the black morons in check enough so that Yankees would feel safe.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Not really. Birmingham is only 150 miles due west and it could have just as easily been the airline hub. That’s 15 minutes flying time.

    In 1950, their metro populations were roughly the same. Now Atlanta has 7x as many people.

  113. @J.Ross
    Chris Rufo's WSJ editorial on how "we" got Gay.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-we-squeezed-harvard-claudine-gay-firing-dei-antisemitism-culture-war-a6843c4c?mod=mhp

    https://archive.is/4JYSv

    What changed? First, public support for DEI has cratered. Following the outpouring of sympathy on elite campuses for Hamas’s war of “decolonization” against Israel, many Americans—including many center-left liberals—became aware of the ideological rot within academic institutions. They began to question the sweet-sounding euphemisms of DEI and examine what they mean in practice.
    Second, the political right has learned how to fight more effectively. As one of the journalists who first exposed the similarities between Ms. Gay’s published work and that of other scholars, I watched the political dynamics develop from the inside. The key, I learned, is that any activist campaign has three points of leverage: reputational, financial and political. For some institutions, one point of leverage is enough, but, for a powerful one such as Harvard, the “squeeze” must work across multiple angles.
    This is precisely what happened. Journalists—including the independent reporter Christopher Brunet and the Washington Free Beacon’s Aaron Sibarium—applied reputational pressure, exposing Ms. Gay’s alleged plagiarism and Harvard’s scandalous effort to cover it up. Donors, led by hedge-fund manager Bill Ackman, applied financial pressure, withholding a billion dollars in contributions. And Congress, under the leadership of Rep. Elise Stefanik (R., N.Y.), applied political pressure, exposing Ms. Gay’s equivocations on antisemitism and threatening consequences for inaction.

    Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo, @Jack D

    Here is a rare conservative victory and you put “we” in scare quotes because you don’t want to be associated with the icky Joos like Ackman who also helped? The Men of Unz are their own worst enemies.

    Rufo correctly states that the pressure points on universities are reputational (press) , economic (donors) and political (Congress). Without the full triad, there is no changing them – Project DIE will steam on. Do Jews have anything to do with any of these 3 such that you would want them on “your” side? Or are the Men of Unz overgrown teenagers with oppositional defiant disorder and are only happy when they are losing?

    •�Replies: @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    Sure, all we need is multiple insanely suicidal attacks, on the most powerful people in the world, one bloody and carefully thought out, one verbal and thoughtless. This isn't a victory for our side, it really isn't even an action on the part of our side, this is an unforced error for theirs, and it still required angry billionaires and congresscritters plus additional unforced errors to clean it up, far from instantly.
    They are replacing Gay with a bigoted leftist Jew who is still for DIE but who will Robocop the one exception, an exception which doesn't help me or resolve the original problem. DIE isn't out, its dumbest exponent is.
    There actually is a positive Jewish angle here, and I apologize if you already thought of this and I didn't see it. Know what would be a victory? An acknowledgment that DIE and not Gay is the problem here? -- If the university brought back Larry Summers, with a cordial and specific apology, recognizing how right he was and how wrong was the university.
  114. @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I don't know about the others, but the ones named Sulzberger aren't Jewish and haven't been for several generations.

    Regardless of their previous contributions to DIE (this always struck me as more of a black project than a Jewish one ), American Jews are now at a crossroads. See this article in The Atlantic by Conor Friedersdorf (not Jewish):

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/01/october-7-changed-americas-free-speech-culture-israel-hamas/677011/

    The gist of it is that American Jews can go two ways: one is to demand that they be added to the list of DIE protected pets (which they have not been up until now) and the other is to reject the whole thing.

    According to the Men of Unz, Jews are still powerful. Even if DIE is their golem gone wild, they can use their magic incantations to still it (Donatio terminosum!) or they can climb on its shoulders. But apparently in classic alt.right self defeating fashion , rather than welcome a new convert (as the Episcopal Church welcomed the Sulzburgers) you would rather revel in schadenfreude than plot a path forward with the icky Jews on your side.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I don’t know about the others

    Look at the names, Jack. Of the ownership, of the eight at best only Lax is not Jewish.

    but the ones named Sulzberger aren’t Jewish and haven’t been for several generations

    Your “several generations” lie doesn’t fly: You admitted (in a roundabout way) that NYT chairman and publisher A.G. Sulzberger is 1/4 Jewish by blood, which is significantly Jewish. The Sulzbergers are Jews and have typical Jewish anti-White motives as shown by their actions. Not surprisingly, A.G. Sulzberger employed willing fellow Jews to execute the project. “The 1619 Project” is a Jewish project.

    rather than welcome a new convert (as the Episcopal Church welcomed the Sulzburgers)

    LOL. Ever hear of Marranos? There needs to be an inquisition first. I want to see credible acts of faith.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Ochs_Sulzberger_Jr.#Early_life_and_education

    [A.O.] Sulzberger’s parents divorced when he was five years old. He was raised in his mother’s Episcopal faith; however, he no longer observes any religion.

    Likewise, Bill Ackman’s belated ‘conversion’ doesn’t yet count, but I like the noises he’s making. If he’s smart, he’ll become explicitly and outspokenly pro-White, as a Jewish ally of Whites. He should be exhorting his fellow Jews to do likewise, and without lying by claiming to be “fellow whites”.

    The only path forward for Jews wanting to avoid destruction as a tribe is to not shy from correctly identifying as Jews, as distinct from White, and to be explicitly pro-White, in opposition to all anti-Whites. That includes calling out all Jewish anti-Whites, including scum like the Sulzbergers. Clean up the Tribe from within. (If A.G. Sulzberger wants to publicly disavow his known Jewish status, he’s welcome to try, LOL. “Jewish? Heavens no. Uh, my father is, or was, an “Episcopalian”! Of sorts. That’s the ticket! Tally ho, my fellow whites!”)

    A.O. is a Jew; his son A.G. is a Jew. A.G. is no doubt aware of his Jewish heritage and takes actions in a typical Tribal anti-White manner.

    According to the Men of Unz, Jews are still powerful.

    According to me Jews are more friendless than ever since WWII, and better earnestly start kissing White ass, start promoting Whiteness in opposition to anti-Whiteness, and better stop lying, like you continue to do. Difficulty level for most Jews on all that—damn near impossible.

    •�Agree: Alden
    •�Replies: @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    As I said before, you have out Nazied the Nazis. According to the Nuremberg Laws, a person with three or four Jewish grandparents was a Jew. People who had one or two Jewish grandparents were categorized as “Mischlinge”, neither German nor Jewish. Mischlinge could be declared to be Honorary Aryans.

    But Jenner operates according to the traditional Amurrican ONE DROP rule. "A.O. is a Jew; his son A.G. is a Jew." They're all Jooos! Joos under my bed!

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  115. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jack D


    I don’t know about the others
    Look at the names, Jack. Of the ownership, of the eight at best only Lax is not Jewish.

    but the ones named Sulzberger aren’t Jewish and haven’t been for several generations
    Your “several generations” lie doesn’t fly: You admitted (in a roundabout way) that NYT chairman and publisher A.G. Sulzberger is 1/4 Jewish by blood, which is significantly Jewish. The Sulzbergers are Jews and have typical Jewish anti-White motives as shown by their actions. Not surprisingly, A.G. Sulzberger employed willing fellow Jews to execute the project. “The 1619 Project” is a Jewish project.

    rather than welcome a new convert (as the Episcopal Church welcomed the Sulzburgers)
    LOL. Ever hear of Marranos? There needs to be an inquisition first. I want to see credible acts of faith.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Ochs_Sulzberger_Jr.#Early_life_and_education

    [A.O.] Sulzberger's parents divorced when he was five years old. He was raised in his mother's Episcopal faith; however, he no longer observes any religion.
    Likewise, Bill Ackman’s belated ‘conversion’ doesn’t yet count, but I like the noises he’s making. If he’s smart, he’ll become explicitly and outspokenly pro-White, as a Jewish ally of Whites. He should be exhorting his fellow Jews to do likewise, and without lying by claiming to be “fellow whites”.

    The only path forward for Jews wanting to avoid destruction as a tribe is to not shy from correctly identifying as Jews, as distinct from White, and to be explicitly pro-White, in opposition to all anti-Whites. That includes calling out all Jewish anti-Whites, including scum like the Sulzbergers. Clean up the Tribe from within. (If A.G. Sulzberger wants to publicly disavow his known Jewish status, he's welcome to try, LOL. “Jewish? Heavens no. Uh, my father is, or was, an “Episcopalian”! Of sorts. That’s the ticket! Tally ho, my fellow whites!”)

    A.O. is a Jew; his son A.G. is a Jew. A.G. is no doubt aware of his Jewish heritage and takes actions in a typical Tribal anti-White manner.

    According to the Men of Unz, Jews are still powerful.
    According to me Jews are more friendless than ever since WWII, and better earnestly start kissing White ass, start promoting Whiteness in opposition to anti-Whiteness, and better stop lying, like you continue to do. Difficulty level for most Jews on all that—damn near impossible.

    Replies: @Jack D

    As I said before, you have out Nazied the Nazis. According to the Nuremberg Laws, a person with three or four Jewish grandparents was a Jew. People who had one or two Jewish grandparents were categorized as “Mischlinge”, neither German nor Jewish. Mischlinge could be declared to be Honorary Aryans.

    But Jenner operates according to the traditional Amurrican ONE DROP rule. “A.O. is a Jew; his son A.G. is a Jew.” They’re all Jooos! Joos under my bed!

    •�Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jack D


    But Jenner operates according to the traditional Amurrican ONE DROP rule. “A.O. is a Jew; his son A.G. is a Jew.” They’re all Jooos! Joos under my bed!

    Jack D

    The Jew is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

    Former Harvard President Claudine Gay

    Replies: @Jack D
  116. @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    As I said before, you have out Nazied the Nazis. According to the Nuremberg Laws, a person with three or four Jewish grandparents was a Jew. People who had one or two Jewish grandparents were categorized as “Mischlinge”, neither German nor Jewish. Mischlinge could be declared to be Honorary Aryans.

    But Jenner operates according to the traditional Amurrican ONE DROP rule. "A.O. is a Jew; his son A.G. is a Jew." They're all Jooos! Joos under my bed!

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    But Jenner operates according to the traditional Amurrican ONE DROP rule. “A.O. is a Jew; his son A.G. is a Jew.” They’re all Jooos! Joos under my bed!

    Jack D

    The Jew is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

    Former Harvard President Claudine Gay

    •�Replies: @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Except those are not Claudine's words, they belong to Goebbels and you are quoting them favorably. There aren't too many Americans (who don't belong to Hamas) who look to Goebbels for guidance as to Jewish matters (or as to anything) but apparently you are one of them. Except, as I said, your threshold for who counts as a Jew are even lower than his.

    Jews in Nazi Germany were rightly concerned about being found out. I've even heard that some French Jews lately have taken their mezuzahs off their doors. Mine is still up. I'm not worried about being "outed". You can call me Jewish all day 'cause I am, but A.G. Sulzberger ain't.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  117. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jack D


    But Jenner operates according to the traditional Amurrican ONE DROP rule. “A.O. is a Jew; his son A.G. is a Jew.” They’re all Jooos! Joos under my bed!

    Jack D

    The Jew is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

    Former Harvard President Claudine Gay

    Replies: @Jack D

    Except those are not Claudine’s words, they belong to Goebbels and you are quoting them favorably. There aren’t too many Americans (who don’t belong to Hamas) who look to Goebbels for guidance as to Jewish matters (or as to anything) but apparently you are one of them. Except, as I said, your threshold for who counts as a Jew are even lower than his.

    Jews in Nazi Germany were rightly concerned about being found out. I’ve even heard that some French Jews lately have taken their mezuzahs off their doors. Mine is still up. I’m not worried about being “outed”. You can call me Jewish all day ’cause I am, but A.G. Sulzberger ain’t.

    •�Agree: Mark G.
    •�Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jack D


    Except those are not Claudine’s words, they belong to Goebbels and you are quoting them favorably.
    It’s ironic (but not unexpected) that you disagree with the quote: You embody the quote (by proxy) in your vain deflections of the fact of anti-White A.G. Sulzberger’s obvious Jewish status. Goebbels’ “guidance” has you pegged. Your comments history would’ve been great for Nazi propaganda; maybe as a semi-satirical column in an anti-Semitic newspaper: “Ask Jack D”
  118. @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Except those are not Claudine's words, they belong to Goebbels and you are quoting them favorably. There aren't too many Americans (who don't belong to Hamas) who look to Goebbels for guidance as to Jewish matters (or as to anything) but apparently you are one of them. Except, as I said, your threshold for who counts as a Jew are even lower than his.

    Jews in Nazi Germany were rightly concerned about being found out. I've even heard that some French Jews lately have taken their mezuzahs off their doors. Mine is still up. I'm not worried about being "outed". You can call me Jewish all day 'cause I am, but A.G. Sulzberger ain't.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Except those are not Claudine’s words, they belong to Goebbels and you are quoting them favorably.

    It’s ironic (but not unexpected) that you disagree with the quote: You embody the quote (by proxy) in your vain deflections of the fact of anti-White A.G. Sulzberger’s obvious Jewish status. Goebbels’ “guidance” has you pegged. Your comments history would’ve been great for Nazi propaganda; maybe as a semi-satirical column in an anti-Semitic newspaper: “Ask Jack D”

  119. @bomag
    @International Jew

    Funny, but behind it is a serious point. The Diversity, Inclusion, etc. has been sold to us as a road to a better future; a happier place; a nicer place. We're getting the opposite, so the question is: how long do we have to play the game before it is time to admit that the emperor has no clothes?

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd

    We’re getting the opposite, so the question is: how long do we have to play the game before it is time to admit that the emperor has no clothes?

    Not only does the emperor have no clothes, he’s ranting, raving, and masturbating in front of us all. And the whole Gay affair is ridiculous! There is no way that the people at Harvard didn’t know every one of her weaknesses when they hired her. They just figured that she would stay on the plantation, and she really did. She’s not exactly Julius Streicher! Gay just didn’t understand how crazy, stupid, paranoid, and thin-skinned the Jewish radicals running the country actually are.

    Gay was fired because she didn’t go nuclear on college students who were protesting Israel. Because of that, she was accused of supporting the genocide of Jews who are actually in the process of ethnically cleansing and genociding Palestinians.

    We live in Clown World. Nah, Jews aren’t running the country, and they aren’t toxic and destructive tribalists, either.

  120. @Dennis Dale
    @tomv

    Steve had a clever self-preservative angle on MLK, saying he rescued the South from being an economic and cultural backwater. Sort of implying "yeah he's ultimately full of shit, but his effect was beneficial". Deft.
    This made sense at the time, because Steve was calculating good sense and justice would ultimately prevail, and the rude inconsistencies and outright lies of the civil rights movement would come out in the wash.
    Many of us felt that way quietly.
    Needless to say, this nice-guy strategy has failed us horribly, and not-very nice-guys are gleefully killing us

    This is what we boomers did. I am sorry. I don't know how to atone.

    Replies: @Jack D, @OilcanFloyd, @Mike Tre

    Steve had a clever self-preservative angle on MLK, saying he rescued the South from being an economic and cultural backwater.

    Economic and cultural backwater? Compared to what? The rest of the nation isn’t exactly 18th century Dresden, and the economy isn’t that great, either, unless you count the pockets of vast wealth for the few.

    I have no great affection for the Old South and its aristocrats, but I don’t doubt for a second that the southern populists and segregationists of the 1950s and 1960s could have created a better society for whites in the South than the burnouts and retards running the rest of the nation did.

    •�Replies: @Jack D
    @OilcanFloyd

    Jim Crow had 70 years to turn the South into a hub of wealth and a cultural capital and its did neither.

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    , @Dennis Dale
    @OilcanFloyd

    The point of the Atlanta example is not that it became rich because it embraced Black! civil rights and diversity, but because this surrendering embrace brought back corporate investment. The South was being squeezed.

    Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public, and no one ever got rich esteeming the value of Black! American human capital (except slave owners).

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  121. @OilcanFloyd
    @Dennis Dale


    Steve had a clever self-preservative angle on MLK, saying he rescued the South from being an economic and cultural backwater.
    Economic and cultural backwater? Compared to what? The rest of the nation isn't exactly 18th century Dresden, and the economy isn't that great, either, unless you count the pockets of vast wealth for the few.

    I have no great affection for the Old South and its aristocrats, but I don't doubt for a second that the southern populists and segregationists of the 1950s and 1960s could have created a better society for whites in the South than the burnouts and retards running the rest of the nation did.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dennis Dale

    Jim Crow had 70 years to turn the South into a hub of wealth and a cultural capital and its did neither.

    •�Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    @Jack D


    Jim Crow had 70 years to turn the South into a hub of wealth and a cultural capital and its did neither.
    During that 70 years, there were two economic depressions, the South emerged from Reconstruction, and the region was in many ways still occupied and recovering from the Civil War. Rome wasn't built in a day, but some of you seem like you watched The Beverly Hillbillies and believed it.

    The movements that I mentioned were at the tail-end of Jim Crow, and were crushed by the federal government. I stand by my earlier post, which you don't seem to understand.
  122. @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    Here is a rare conservative victory and you put "we" in scare quotes because you don't want to be associated with the icky Joos like Ackman who also helped? The Men of Unz are their own worst enemies.

    Rufo correctly states that the pressure points on universities are reputational (press) , economic (donors) and political (Congress). Without the full triad, there is no changing them - Project DIE will steam on. Do Jews have anything to do with any of these 3 such that you would want them on "your" side? Or are the Men of Unz overgrown teenagers with oppositional defiant disorder and are only happy when they are losing?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Sure, all we need is multiple insanely suicidal attacks, on the most powerful people in the world, one bloody and carefully thought out, one verbal and thoughtless. This isn’t a victory for our side, it really isn’t even an action on the part of our side, this is an unforced error for theirs, and it still required angry billionaires and congresscritters plus additional unforced errors to clean it up, far from instantly.
    They are replacing Gay with a bigoted leftist Jew who is still for DIE but who will Robocop the one exception, an exception which doesn’t help me or resolve the original problem. DIE isn’t out, its dumbest exponent is.
    There actually is a positive Jewish angle here, and I apologize if you already thought of this and I didn’t see it. Know what would be a victory? An acknowledgment that DIE and not Gay is the problem here? — If the university brought back Larry Summers, with a cordial and specific apology, recognizing how right he was and how wrong was the university.

  123. @OilcanFloyd
    @Dennis Dale


    Steve had a clever self-preservative angle on MLK, saying he rescued the South from being an economic and cultural backwater.
    Economic and cultural backwater? Compared to what? The rest of the nation isn't exactly 18th century Dresden, and the economy isn't that great, either, unless you count the pockets of vast wealth for the few.

    I have no great affection for the Old South and its aristocrats, but I don't doubt for a second that the southern populists and segregationists of the 1950s and 1960s could have created a better society for whites in the South than the burnouts and retards running the rest of the nation did.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Dennis Dale

    The point of the Atlanta example is not that it became rich because it embraced Black! civil rights and diversity, but because this surrendering embrace brought back corporate investment. The South was being squeezed.

    Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public, and no one ever got rich esteeming the value of Black! American human capital (except slave owners).

    •�Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    @Dennis Dale


    The point of the Atlanta example is not that it became rich because it embraced Black! civil rights and diversity, but because this surrendering embrace brought back corporate investment. The South was being squeezed.
    Atlanta got rich, but it didn't do much for most Georgians, which was my point. I understand the role of people like Ivan Allen, and believe that had the populists and segregationists would have built a better society for most whites and likely many blacks.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Jack D
  124. @Prester John
    @Robertson

    I thought it was the Maine Secretary of State who knocked Trump off the ballot. No matter--both the AG and SoS are elected, not appointed, so the argument can be made that this act was done with the blessing of the Maine electorate.

    Maine is one of the whitest states in the US. What a hoot!

    Replies: @FPD72

    I thought it was the Maine Secretary of State who knocked Trump off the ballot. No matter–both the AG and SoS are elected, not appointed, so the argument can be made that this act was done with the blessing of the Maine electorate.

    The SoS of Maine is elected, but not by the voters of the state. Instead, the SoS is elected by the state legislature. Only if you limit “the electorate” to members of the legislature is your last sentence not false

  125. @Jack D
    @OilcanFloyd

    Jim Crow had 70 years to turn the South into a hub of wealth and a cultural capital and its did neither.

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd

    Jim Crow had 70 years to turn the South into a hub of wealth and a cultural capital and its did neither.

    During that 70 years, there were two economic depressions, the South emerged from Reconstruction, and the region was in many ways still occupied and recovering from the Civil War. Rome wasn’t built in a day, but some of you seem like you watched The Beverly Hillbillies and believed it.

    The movements that I mentioned were at the tail-end of Jim Crow, and were crushed by the federal government. I stand by my earlier post, which you don’t seem to understand.

  126. @Dennis Dale
    @OilcanFloyd

    The point of the Atlanta example is not that it became rich because it embraced Black! civil rights and diversity, but because this surrendering embrace brought back corporate investment. The South was being squeezed.

    Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public, and no one ever got rich esteeming the value of Black! American human capital (except slave owners).

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd

    The point of the Atlanta example is not that it became rich because it embraced Black! civil rights and diversity, but because this surrendering embrace brought back corporate investment. The South was being squeezed.

    Atlanta got rich, but it didn’t do much for most Georgians, which was my point. I understand the role of people like Ivan Allen, and believe that had the populists and segregationists would have built a better society for most whites and likely many blacks.

    •�Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @OilcanFloyd

    You're arguing with someone with whom you are in agreement. Go away.

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    , @Jack D
    @OilcanFloyd


    had the populists and segregationists would have built a better society for most whites and likely many blacks.
    That's ridiculous. Maybe, arguably for whites, but not for blacks. The Supreme Court said that facilities should be "separate but equal" but the reality was that the facilities for blacks were always inferior.

    https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/image-cdn-dev.magnum-dev.com/image/16761/1920x4000.jpg

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd
  127. @Jack D
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You're delusional. This was not a "Jewish" project. The people who own the NY Times haven't been Jewish for several generations. They are baptized and 3/4 Protestant by blood. What will it take for them not to be Jewish anymore? Even in Nazi Germany they could have gotten Aryan Certificates but not good enough for Mr. Amurrican.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Ennui

    Dunno Jack, if they feel very strongly attached to that one Jewish great-grandparent, they might as well be kosher per the rabbis. They will act on that connection.

    I think Bolton or the late Michael Gerson are good examples of Gentiles per Rabbinic law with some Jewish ancestry who felt strongly connected to their Jewish roots.

    There are plenty of Christian Dispensationalists who would kill for Jewish ancestry. I’ve known a few Evangelicals that made dang sure you knew that granny was a convert, solidifying their Abrahamic credentials. It’s almost, but not quite, something akin to the Muslims and sayyid status.

  128. @Jack D
    @Pixo

    Maybe a bit wordy but you have to see it as an appeal from a former normie who has been red pilled to other normies. He is not preaching to the choir of those who have already been converted.

    If Jews, who as the Men of Unz never cease to remind us, vote heavily Democrat and are at the core of American liberalism, can be converted to a new understanding that DIE is toxic and that they have no business putting BLM signs on their lawn when BLM would just as well see their throats cut, then there is hope for liberal whites as well.

    The Coalition of the Fringes cannot rule just as a pure coalition of the freaks and minorities when the population of the US remains 70% white. They need a certain % of normal whites on their side. If normal whites , even liberal white Jews like Ackman can be made to see the light, then there is hope.

    Replies: @deep anonymous, @Ennui

    Ackerman is just going to become a GOP-affiliated neocon. Not a huge movement.

    •�Replies: @Jack D
    @Ennui

    This is exactly what I meant - the Men of Unz won't take yes for an answer. Ackman is not a REAL conservative. What Rufo did doesn't really help me. Blah, blah, blah. No one is ever going to meet your shit tests.

    If Leftists had just scored the heads of two Ivy League presidents for violating their norms, the entire Coalition of the Fringes would be congratulating the victors but you won't give Ackman and Rufo even a little bit of credit.

    Replies: @Ennui
  129. @OK Boomer
    @HA

    I don't see the benefit in "COVID itself is far more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine itself". The RNA vaccines were never approved for lowering the risk of catching COVID, so, if you get the Trump-Kariko-Kizzmekkia shot, you have the risk of covid-caused myocarditis that everyone has, plus an extra risk from the vaccine.

    Of course, the Trumpers, the Karikans and the Kizzmekkians will all say we should move on, since pointing out things like those in my first paragraph show the American boomer government, the Sacred Cows of the progressive Western youth, and the Western science being useless, at the very least, their decisions and "discoveries" as useful as those of the Congolese.

    If anything, Congo was even less impacted by covid.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    The RNA vaccines were never approved for lowering the risk of catching COVID

    This is a blatant lie, as long as you substitute “emergency authorized” for “approved.”

    May still be a lie now that the FDA has advanced to Official approval, because while neither vaccines nor (most?) natural immunity provides long term sterilizing immunity to coronaviruses, what you say later claiming mRNA vaccines are completely useless is a further blatant lie. The vaccines reduced morbidity and mortality, both of which including up to six month delayed mortality were very significant for classic Wuhan as seen in 2020 before anyone got vaccinated. And as far as I discerned back in 2021-22 that included the first two major variants of COVID, Alpha and Delta.

    Weasel wording because you have to do very careful epidemiology to get any confidence about results, for example by Omicron around the beginning of 2022 the game had changed, but perhaps in part because almost everyone had some natural and/or vaccine immunity.

    And I read one study or preprint abstract which claimed sharply lower morbidity for a third of the patients studied, who’d gained immunity to some very conserved universal or thereabouts coronavirus proteins, not the spike S or nucleocapsid N but ones concerned with basic reproduction. Was thought to be a clue to why bad outcomes were so unpredictable.

    If anything, Congo was even less impacted by covid.

    Maybe because its population pyramid is exactly shaped like one, very few older folks to die from it? Compare to the US which is more like a cylinder until people get into their 60s.

    You anti-vaxxers might get some purchase if you’d cease blatantly lying, but you haven’t stopped in everything I’ve read since November 2020. You’ve cried wolf so many times no one with a clue buys anything you say, which will be bad if you actually find something of concern.

    But as of now you’ve demonstrated almost everything the Left said about the Right is true, and that the Right is not all that far from being as much of an existential threat to humanity as the Left is, especially if you subtract the Extinctionism Musk is calling out which I also see on the Right. It’s why he’s so concerned about “AI,” it’s developed by them and thus “it’s utility function will be the extinction of humanity.” These people are a major reason he bought Twitter.

    •�Replies: @OK Boomer
    @That Would Be Telling

    "claiming mRNA vaccines are completely useless is a further blatant lie"

    I didn't say they are useless. According to their sellers, they prevent severe cases of covid.

    But also implied by their sellers, they do not prevent any case of covid-associated myocarditis, and they add a supplementary risk of vaccine-associated myocarditis. In other words, as I said, I don’t see the benefit in “COVID itself is far more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine itself”.

    Replies: @HA
  130. @OilcanFloyd
    @Dennis Dale


    The point of the Atlanta example is not that it became rich because it embraced Black! civil rights and diversity, but because this surrendering embrace brought back corporate investment. The South was being squeezed.
    Atlanta got rich, but it didn't do much for most Georgians, which was my point. I understand the role of people like Ivan Allen, and believe that had the populists and segregationists would have built a better society for most whites and likely many blacks.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Jack D

    You’re arguing with someone with whom you are in agreement. Go away.

    •�Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    @Dennis Dale


    You’re arguing with someone with whom you are in agreement. Go away.
    My original reply to you was in response to your interpretation of Steve's views. Nobody was attacking you.
  131. @Mycale
    We all know why she stepped down and it had nothing to do with her shoddy academic career.

    Replies: @IHTG, @Jack D, @anon

    Her untouchable hair?

  132. @SafeNow
    There will be a movie, and a beginning caption will read “Based on a True Story” and “based on” will provide a lot of fun wiggle-room for the screenwriter. A big question: Who will play Claudine Gay? Klinger from Mash or Angel from The Rockford files would depict they needed type of character, but we don’t have a time machine. Anyway, the eyeglass frames and the haircut provide enormous latitude as far as physical resemblance goes, so the field among current actors is quite wide. Tim Roth
    maybe - - a superb talent. Of course a child actor would be needed to portray a young Claudine, pulling the wool over the eyes of her schoolteachers and parents.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber, @Inquiring Mind, @Legba, @Adolf Smith, @anon

    Ellen Page

  133. @New Dealer
    I'm feeling Gay fatigue. I'm going to say goodbye to the affair with this final link.

    It is Bill Ackman's complete and lengthy explanation for why he acted. Interestingly, it was 95% about DEI. He had not understood its new hegemony and its deleterious effects, and was appalled by what he discovered in thorough talks with faculty and students on campus. He has a record as a free-speech advocate, and says he only became concerned about the JQ when students were harshly threatened and intimidated.

    He calls for Pritzker and the rest of the Board to resign, and a new non-DEI Board appointed. And he calls for abolition of the DEI office and dismissal of all its staff.

    I know that some commenters here will consider his statement disingenuous, and I will refrain from quarreling about that. His remarks are at least interesting, and hopefully mark the beginning of the end for DEI.

    https://twitter.com/BillAckman/status/1742441534627184760

    Replies: @Farenheit, @Jack D, @Corpse Tooth, @Jack D, @Intelligent Dasein, @OK Boomer

    “I’m feeling Gay fatigue.” – Oh, look who suddenly got “so damned tired”. Perhaps you’d want to discuss your feelings re. someone touching your hair last year, now that the table has turned, and the Sacred Cows of America are being disrespected.

    In a sense, there is to much Harvard here. Let’s vary the subjects a bit. How about something novel and interesting about golf fields. Or quarterbacks, I miss them a lot. Anything, but a discussion about a failure at an actual top position of America, a job which gives America its Treasury secretaries.

    The emperor is naked.

  134. @That Would Be Telling
    @OK Boomer


    The RNA vaccines were never approved for lowering the risk of catching COVID
    This is a blatant lie, as long as you substitute "emergency authorized" for "approved."

    May still be a lie now that the FDA has advanced to Official approval, because while neither vaccines nor (most?) natural immunity provides long term sterilizing immunity to coronaviruses, what you say later claiming mRNA vaccines are completely useless is a further blatant lie. The vaccines reduced morbidity and mortality, both of which including up to six month delayed mortality were very significant for classic Wuhan as seen in 2020 before anyone got vaccinated. And as far as I discerned back in 2021-22 that included the first two major variants of COVID, Alpha and Delta.

    Weasel wording because you have to do very careful epidemiology to get any confidence about results, for example by Omicron around the beginning of 2022 the game had changed, but perhaps in part because almost everyone had some natural and/or vaccine immunity.

    And I read one study or preprint abstract which claimed sharply lower morbidity for a third of the patients studied, who'd gained immunity to some very conserved universal or thereabouts coronavirus proteins, not the spike S or nucleocapsid N but ones concerned with basic reproduction. Was thought to be a clue to why bad outcomes were so unpredictable.

    If anything, Congo was even less impacted by covid.
    Maybe because its population pyramid is exactly shaped like one, very few older folks to die from it? Compare to the US which is more like a cylinder until people get into their 60s.

    You anti-vaxxers might get some purchase if you'd cease blatantly lying, but you haven't stopped in everything I've read since November 2020. You've cried wolf so many times no one with a clue buys anything you say, which will be bad if you actually find something of concern.

    But as of now you've demonstrated almost everything the Left said about the Right is true, and that the Right is not all that far from being as much of an existential threat to humanity as the Left is, especially if you subtract the Extinctionism Musk is calling out which I also see on the Right. It's why he's so concerned about "AI," it's developed by them and thus "it's utility function will be the extinction of humanity." These people are a major reason he bought Twitter.

    Replies: @OK Boomer

    “claiming mRNA vaccines are completely useless is a further blatant lie”

    I didn’t say they are useless. According to their sellers, they prevent severe cases of covid.

    But also implied by their sellers, they do not prevent any case of covid-associated myocarditis, and they add a supplementary risk of vaccine-associated myocarditis. In other words, as I said, I don’t see the benefit in “COVID itself is far more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine itself”.

    •�Troll: That Would Be Telling
    •�Replies: @HA
    @OK Boomer

    "But also implied by their sellers, they do not prevent any case of covid-associated myocarditis, and they add a supplementary risk of vaccine-associated myocarditis."

    You mean the legalese disclaimers in the back of any medication? When you have a billion people taking a medication, there's a lot that can happen shortly afterwards that gets added into that legalese of how said medication might have been implicated. But what you're saying is garbage.

    Based on actual data, the risk of getting myocarditis from COVID go down by two if one is vaxxed.

    ...related myocarditis decreased dramatically, by nearly half, for people who received a COVID-19 vaccination but had a breakthrough infection.
    Given that COVID increases your chances of getting myocarditis by a factor of 15, that ain't peanuts.

    The researchers compared patients with COVID-19 — vaccinated and unvaccinated — to those without the virus. They found the risk of myocarditis was 15 times higher in COVID-19 patients, regardless of vaccination status, compared to individuals who did not contract the virus.
    I.e. this is just one more lie from the anti-vaxxers. How do we know? Their lips moved.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  135. @Ennui
    @Jack D

    Ackerman is just going to become a GOP-affiliated neocon. Not a huge movement.

    Replies: @Jack D

    This is exactly what I meant – the Men of Unz won’t take yes for an answer. Ackman is not a REAL conservative. What Rufo did doesn’t really help me. Blah, blah, blah. No one is ever going to meet your shit tests.

    If Leftists had just scored the heads of two Ivy League presidents for violating their norms, the entire Coalition of the Fringes would be congratulating the victors but you won’t give Ackman and Rufo even a little bit of credit.

    •�Replies: @Ennui
    @Jack D

    I'm not talking about Rufo, I'm talking about Ackman. I guess he got mugged by reality. Still gonna be closer to a neocon than anything else, no thanks.

    Replies: @J.Ross
  136. @OilcanFloyd
    @Dennis Dale


    The point of the Atlanta example is not that it became rich because it embraced Black! civil rights and diversity, but because this surrendering embrace brought back corporate investment. The South was being squeezed.
    Atlanta got rich, but it didn't do much for most Georgians, which was my point. I understand the role of people like Ivan Allen, and believe that had the populists and segregationists would have built a better society for most whites and likely many blacks.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale, @Jack D

    had the populists and segregationists would have built a better society for most whites and likely many blacks.

    That’s ridiculous. Maybe, arguably for whites, but not for blacks. The Supreme Court said that facilities should be “separate but equal” but the reality was that the facilities for blacks were always inferior.

    •�Replies: @OilcanFloyd
    @Jack D


    That’s ridiculous. Maybe, arguably for whites, but not for blacks. The Supreme Court said that facilities should be “separate but equal” but the reality was that the facilities for blacks were always inferior.
    Talk about clichéd and off-topic! Should I have expected any less?

    Replies: @Jack D
  137. HA says:
    @OK Boomer
    @That Would Be Telling

    "claiming mRNA vaccines are completely useless is a further blatant lie"

    I didn't say they are useless. According to their sellers, they prevent severe cases of covid.

    But also implied by their sellers, they do not prevent any case of covid-associated myocarditis, and they add a supplementary risk of vaccine-associated myocarditis. In other words, as I said, I don’t see the benefit in “COVID itself is far more likely to cause myocarditis than the vaccine itself”.

    Replies: @HA

    “But also implied by their sellers, they do not prevent any case of covid-associated myocarditis, and they add a supplementary risk of vaccine-associated myocarditis.”

    You mean the legalese disclaimers in the back of any medication? When you have a billion people taking a medication, there’s a lot that can happen shortly afterwards that gets added into that legalese of how said medication might have been implicated. But what you’re saying is garbage.

    Based on actual data, the risk of getting myocarditis from COVID go down by two if one is vaxxed.

    …related myocarditis decreased dramatically, by nearly half, for people who received a COVID-19 vaccination but had a breakthrough infection.

    Given that COVID increases your chances of getting myocarditis by a factor of 15, that ain’t peanuts.

    The researchers compared patients with COVID-19 — vaccinated and unvaccinated — to those without the virus. They found the risk of myocarditis was 15 times higher in COVID-19 patients, regardless of vaccination status, compared to individuals who did not contract the virus.

    I.e. this is just one more lie from the anti-vaxxers. How do we know? Their lips moved.

    •�Thanks: That Would Be Telling
    •�Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @HA


    I.e. this is just one more lie from the anti-vaxxers. How do we know? Their lips moved.
    That's a slight exaggeration, for sometimes they say true stuff, and they'll of course accept things from the vaccine ... careful? like questioning exactly how old one has to be before it makes sense to get a vaccination.

    What they can't do as I mentioned above is say anything without slipping at least one lie into it. For three solid years!

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @OK Boomer
  138. @Jack D
    @OilcanFloyd


    had the populists and segregationists would have built a better society for most whites and likely many blacks.
    That's ridiculous. Maybe, arguably for whites, but not for blacks. The Supreme Court said that facilities should be "separate but equal" but the reality was that the facilities for blacks were always inferior.

    https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/image-cdn-dev.magnum-dev.com/image/16761/1920x4000.jpg

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd

    That’s ridiculous. Maybe, arguably for whites, but not for blacks. The Supreme Court said that facilities should be “separate but equal” but the reality was that the facilities for blacks were always inferior.

    Talk about clichéd and off-topic! Should I have expected any less?

    •�Replies: @Jack D
    @OilcanFloyd

    Not at all off topic. You claimed that segregationists would have built a better society for many blacks and I called bullshit on that. They showed total bad faith on the "equal" part of "separate but equal" and were never going to give that up unless they were forced to.

    I don't think there is some alternate history where the segregated South could have survived another 70 years any more than slavery could have lasted another 70 years, but if it had, you can be pretty sure that the average black would be worse off under it. Next thing you will tell me that blacks enjoyed being slaves too.
  139. @Dennis Dale
    @OilcanFloyd

    You're arguing with someone with whom you are in agreement. Go away.

    Replies: @OilcanFloyd

    You’re arguing with someone with whom you are in agreement. Go away.

    My original reply to you was in response to your interpretation of Steve’s views. Nobody was attacking you.

  140. @HA
    @OK Boomer

    "But also implied by their sellers, they do not prevent any case of covid-associated myocarditis, and they add a supplementary risk of vaccine-associated myocarditis."

    You mean the legalese disclaimers in the back of any medication? When you have a billion people taking a medication, there's a lot that can happen shortly afterwards that gets added into that legalese of how said medication might have been implicated. But what you're saying is garbage.

    Based on actual data, the risk of getting myocarditis from COVID go down by two if one is vaxxed.

    ...related myocarditis decreased dramatically, by nearly half, for people who received a COVID-19 vaccination but had a breakthrough infection.
    Given that COVID increases your chances of getting myocarditis by a factor of 15, that ain't peanuts.

    The researchers compared patients with COVID-19 — vaccinated and unvaccinated — to those without the virus. They found the risk of myocarditis was 15 times higher in COVID-19 patients, regardless of vaccination status, compared to individuals who did not contract the virus.
    I.e. this is just one more lie from the anti-vaxxers. How do we know? Their lips moved.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    I.e. this is just one more lie from the anti-vaxxers. How do we know? Their lips moved.

    That’s a slight exaggeration, for sometimes they say true stuff, and they’ll of course accept things from the vaccine … careful? like questioning exactly how old one has to be before it makes sense to get a vaccination.

    What they can’t do as I mentioned above is say anything without slipping at least one lie into it. For three solid years!

    •�Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @That Would Be Telling

    You can't lie about something which is impossible to fully know, or which is not yet fully known. And it gets positively Nabokovian to say someone is lying, when you are clearly full of lies yourself on the same set of subjects.

    By calling things "lies" which are merely better or worse evaluations/guesses with regards to a moving game with many hidden parts, you make yourself sound like an NPC.
    , @OK Boomer
    @That Would Be Telling

    Nah, my go-back item is to remind everyone that in the first three months of RNA vaccination, as well as in 6 decades that preceded it, there was a rule that RNA should be stored at -80 Celsius.

    I remember the mockery when, in Jan 2021, Romanians, lacking proper containers, resorted to carrying the first Moderna vials in pizza boxes.

    I remember the sanctimoniousness of Americans seriously discussing, in Feb 2021, about sending to jail a janitor who unplugged by mistake one of these deep freezers that stored the holy Moderna liquor.

    Apparently, no one, including several Nobel winners for studying the RNA, did not think about storing it in regular fridges, until Fauci and Kizzmekkia thought outside the box.

    Can you guess what happened to the RNA on your second through eighth dose, after the storing rules have changed? Are you familiar with nosodes?

    Replies: @Jack D
  141. @That Would Be Telling
    @HA


    I.e. this is just one more lie from the anti-vaxxers. How do we know? Their lips moved.
    That's a slight exaggeration, for sometimes they say true stuff, and they'll of course accept things from the vaccine ... careful? like questioning exactly how old one has to be before it makes sense to get a vaccination.

    What they can't do as I mentioned above is say anything without slipping at least one lie into it. For three solid years!

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @OK Boomer

    You can’t lie about something which is impossible to fully know, or which is not yet fully known. And it gets positively Nabokovian to say someone is lying, when you are clearly full of lies yourself on the same set of subjects.

    By calling things “lies” which are merely better or worse evaluations/guesses with regards to a moving game with many hidden parts, you make yourself sound like an NPC.

  142. @Dennis Dale
    @tomv

    Steve had a clever self-preservative angle on MLK, saying he rescued the South from being an economic and cultural backwater. Sort of implying "yeah he's ultimately full of shit, but his effect was beneficial". Deft.
    This made sense at the time, because Steve was calculating good sense and justice would ultimately prevail, and the rude inconsistencies and outright lies of the civil rights movement would come out in the wash.
    Many of us felt that way quietly.
    Needless to say, this nice-guy strategy has failed us horribly, and not-very nice-guys are gleefully killing us

    This is what we boomers did. I am sorry. I don't know how to atone.

    Replies: @Jack D, @OilcanFloyd, @Mike Tre

    Glenn Reynolds and all of the nobodies-who-think-they’re-somebodies that contribute to his feed all pay homage to Michael da Kangz and advocate for putting Harriet Tubman on the 10 dollar bill.

    This are the kinds of cucks who step in front of each other to shake the hand of the one black guy at CPAC.

    Anyone who seriously believes Michael da Kangz did anything for the betterment of the USA is daft, not deft.

    •�Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @Mike Tre

    I didn’t say he believed it.
  143. @OilcanFloyd
    @Jack D


    That’s ridiculous. Maybe, arguably for whites, but not for blacks. The Supreme Court said that facilities should be “separate but equal” but the reality was that the facilities for blacks were always inferior.
    Talk about clichéd and off-topic! Should I have expected any less?

    Replies: @Jack D

    Not at all off topic. You claimed that segregationists would have built a better society for many blacks and I called bullshit on that. They showed total bad faith on the “equal” part of “separate but equal” and were never going to give that up unless they were forced to.

    I don’t think there is some alternate history where the segregated South could have survived another 70 years any more than slavery could have lasted another 70 years, but if it had, you can be pretty sure that the average black would be worse off under it. Next thing you will tell me that blacks enjoyed being slaves too.

  144. @Mike Tre
    @Dennis Dale

    Glenn Reynolds and all of the nobodies-who-think-they're-somebodies that contribute to his feed all pay homage to Michael da Kangz and advocate for putting Harriet Tubman on the 10 dollar bill.

    This are the kinds of cucks who step in front of each other to shake the hand of the one black guy at CPAC.

    Anyone who seriously believes Michael da Kangz did anything for the betterment of the USA is daft, not deft.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

    I didn’t say he believed it.

  145. Evidently the libtards at Business Insider (whatever that is) have gone after Bill Ackman’s wife accusing her of plagiarism in her PhD dissertation. So Bill, who has FU money and doesn’t like to be FU’d with, has decided to review the academic output of virtually everyone at MIT.

    For some inexplicable reason, the left seems incapable of realizing that their own tactics might be used against them.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/01/dont-f-with-bill-ackmans-wife.php

    This experience has inspired me to save all news organizations from the trouble of doing plagiarism reviews.

    We will begin with a review of the work of all current @MIT faculty members, President Kornbluth, other officers of the Corporation, and its board members for plagiarism.

    We will be using MIT’s own plagiarism standards which can be found here:

    https://integrity.mit.edu/handbook/what-plagiarism

    •�Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Jim Don Bob

    "the left seems incapable of realizing that their own tactics might be used against them."

    Well as the Spartans would say... "Might."

    But in reality, almost never. And Ol' Man Leftard, he just keeps rollin' along.

    A functioning coherent Right capable of a successful fighting campaign essentially does not exist in this country, probably never will. At this point our political language is so polluted and degraded, that we'd have to switch to another language entirely, say Czech or Estonian, simply to be able to make sense to one another without all the ridiculous baggage that has become attached to practically every word, including "and" and "the".

    And Ackman is still the enemy regardless.
    , @That Would Be Telling
    @Jim Don Bob


    Evidently the libtards at Business Insider (whatever that is) have gone after Bill Ackman’s wife accusing her of plagiarism in her PhD dissertation.
    Her 2009 MIT Ph.D. dissertation, and she became an eventually tenured professor there before retiring in 2020-21 to be a wife and do things in the private sector (MIT also went batshit crazy over COVID so the above timing might have some relation).

    BI is a fairly prominent in its reporting as such on the tech sector, but it's also more of a rag than average for business reporting orgs, although more than a step above ZeroHedge which is more blatant in just making stuff up.

    Ackman went nuclear in mid-December calling out (((the MIT Corporation chair))), equivalent to Harvard's (((Penny Pritzker))), and his extremely woke wife for tax fraud that in theory could cost MIT its tax exempt status. See more in my comments in the previous Gay topic.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @J.Ross, @deep anonymous
  146. @Jim Don Bob
    Evidently the libtards at Business Insider (whatever that is) have gone after Bill Ackman's wife accusing her of plagiarism in her PhD dissertation. So Bill, who has FU money and doesn't like to be FU'd with, has decided to review the academic output of virtually everyone at MIT.

    For some inexplicable reason, the left seems incapable of realizing that their own tactics might be used against them.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/01/dont-f-with-bill-ackmans-wife.php

    This experience has inspired me to save all news organizations from the trouble of doing plagiarism reviews.

    We will begin with a review of the work of all current @MIT faculty members, President Kornbluth, other officers of the Corporation, and its board members for plagiarism.

    We will be using MIT’s own plagiarism standards which can be found here:

    https://integrity.mit.edu/handbook/what-plagiarism

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @That Would Be Telling

    “the left seems incapable of realizing that their own tactics might be used against them.”

    Well as the Spartans would say… “Might.”

    But in reality, almost never. And Ol’ Man Leftard, he just keeps rollin’ along.

    A functioning coherent Right capable of a successful fighting campaign essentially does not exist in this country, probably never will. At this point our political language is so polluted and degraded, that we’d have to switch to another language entirely, say Czech or Estonian, simply to be able to make sense to one another without all the ridiculous baggage that has become attached to practically every word, including “and” and “the”.

    And Ackman is still the enemy regardless.

  147. @Jim Don Bob
    Evidently the libtards at Business Insider (whatever that is) have gone after Bill Ackman's wife accusing her of plagiarism in her PhD dissertation. So Bill, who has FU money and doesn't like to be FU'd with, has decided to review the academic output of virtually everyone at MIT.

    For some inexplicable reason, the left seems incapable of realizing that their own tactics might be used against them.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2024/01/dont-f-with-bill-ackmans-wife.php

    This experience has inspired me to save all news organizations from the trouble of doing plagiarism reviews.

    We will begin with a review of the work of all current @MIT faculty members, President Kornbluth, other officers of the Corporation, and its board members for plagiarism.

    We will be using MIT’s own plagiarism standards which can be found here:

    https://integrity.mit.edu/handbook/what-plagiarism

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @That Would Be Telling

    Evidently the libtards at Business Insider (whatever that is) have gone after Bill Ackman’s wife accusing her of plagiarism in her PhD dissertation.

    Her 2009 MIT Ph.D. dissertation, and she became an eventually tenured professor there before retiring in 2020-21 to be a wife and do things in the private sector (MIT also went batshit crazy over COVID so the above timing might have some relation).

    BI is a fairly prominent in its reporting as such on the tech sector, but it’s also more of a rag than average for business reporting orgs, although more than a step above ZeroHedge which is more blatant in just making stuff up.

    Ackman went nuclear in mid-December calling out (((the MIT Corporation chair))), equivalent to Harvard’s (((Penny Pritzker))), and his extremely woke wife for tax fraud that in theory could cost MIT its tax exempt status. See more in my comments in the previous Gay topic.

    •�Thanks: Jim Don Bob
    •�Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @That Would Be Telling

    I think Bob Jones U was stripped or threatened with being stripped of its tax exempt status, as were some of the Tea party people. I have never heard of the IRS doing anything to lefty organizations even though many of them clearly engage in electioneering which is specifically prohibited.

    It's good to be member of the nomenklatura.
    , @J.Ross
    @That Would Be Telling

    This just confirms that the issue is neither plagiarism nor Gay.
    , @deep anonymous
    @That Would Be Telling


    "BI is a fairly prominent in its reporting as such on the tech sector, but it’s also more of a rag than average for business reporting orgs, although more than a step above ZeroHedge which is more blatant in just making stuff up."

    What is your evidence for this? I have found a LOT of useful information on ZeroHedge over the past 15 years.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling
  148. @Jack D
    @Ennui

    This is exactly what I meant - the Men of Unz won't take yes for an answer. Ackman is not a REAL conservative. What Rufo did doesn't really help me. Blah, blah, blah. No one is ever going to meet your shit tests.

    If Leftists had just scored the heads of two Ivy League presidents for violating their norms, the entire Coalition of the Fringes would be congratulating the victors but you won't give Ackman and Rufo even a little bit of credit.

    Replies: @Ennui

    I’m not talking about Rufo, I’m talking about Ackman. I guess he got mugged by reality. Still gonna be closer to a neocon than anything else, no thanks.

    •�Replies: @J.Ross
    @Ennui

    Ackman is Orlando after having paid an alcoholic poet a gullibility-demonstrating sum to learn poetry, angrily throwing the review into a brazier. Especially given that Gay is not being punished in any way, what was accomplished? Has there been any acknowledgment by certain people that resorting to simple racism against white people was as dumb as using chemical weapons on a windy day? I haven't heard it. Charlie Kirk was talking about this months ago, going straight for the necessary connection.

    Replies: @Ennui
  149. @That Would Be Telling
    @Jim Don Bob


    Evidently the libtards at Business Insider (whatever that is) have gone after Bill Ackman’s wife accusing her of plagiarism in her PhD dissertation.
    Her 2009 MIT Ph.D. dissertation, and she became an eventually tenured professor there before retiring in 2020-21 to be a wife and do things in the private sector (MIT also went batshit crazy over COVID so the above timing might have some relation).

    BI is a fairly prominent in its reporting as such on the tech sector, but it's also more of a rag than average for business reporting orgs, although more than a step above ZeroHedge which is more blatant in just making stuff up.

    Ackman went nuclear in mid-December calling out (((the MIT Corporation chair))), equivalent to Harvard's (((Penny Pritzker))), and his extremely woke wife for tax fraud that in theory could cost MIT its tax exempt status. See more in my comments in the previous Gay topic.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @J.Ross, @deep anonymous

    I think Bob Jones U was stripped or threatened with being stripped of its tax exempt status, as were some of the Tea party people. I have never heard of the IRS doing anything to lefty organizations even though many of them clearly engage in electioneering which is specifically prohibited.

    It’s good to be member of the nomenklatura.

  150. @That Would Be Telling
    @Jim Don Bob


    Evidently the libtards at Business Insider (whatever that is) have gone after Bill Ackman’s wife accusing her of plagiarism in her PhD dissertation.
    Her 2009 MIT Ph.D. dissertation, and she became an eventually tenured professor there before retiring in 2020-21 to be a wife and do things in the private sector (MIT also went batshit crazy over COVID so the above timing might have some relation).

    BI is a fairly prominent in its reporting as such on the tech sector, but it's also more of a rag than average for business reporting orgs, although more than a step above ZeroHedge which is more blatant in just making stuff up.

    Ackman went nuclear in mid-December calling out (((the MIT Corporation chair))), equivalent to Harvard's (((Penny Pritzker))), and his extremely woke wife for tax fraud that in theory could cost MIT its tax exempt status. See more in my comments in the previous Gay topic.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @J.Ross, @deep anonymous

    This just confirms that the issue is neither plagiarism nor Gay.

  151. @Ennui
    @Jack D

    I'm not talking about Rufo, I'm talking about Ackman. I guess he got mugged by reality. Still gonna be closer to a neocon than anything else, no thanks.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Ackman is Orlando after having paid an alcoholic poet a gullibility-demonstrating sum to learn poetry, angrily throwing the review into a brazier. Especially given that Gay is not being punished in any way, what was accomplished? Has there been any acknowledgment by certain people that resorting to simple racism against white people was as dumb as using chemical weapons on a windy day? I haven’t heard it. Charlie Kirk was talking about this months ago, going straight for the necessary connection.

    •�Replies: @Ennui
    @J.Ross

    This sordid little tale offers no insights. It's a great bit of satire, but there are no shocking revelations that would require any person truly honest about the US to rethink their priors.

    It's nice in so far as it causes psychological distress and a certain degree of discreditation for our elites and their PMC vassals. But nobody is going to be punished. Things are not really going to change because of this.
  152. @Paleo Retiree
    Steve Sailer should write about what I want him to write about, not about what he wants to write about!

    Good lord, talk about childish.

    Steve’s blogging is free, he’s never taken the easy road, he’s made monumental contributions to the country’s political and cultural discussion … But by all means let’s be critical rather than appreciative, and let’s focus on complaining that he’s not doing what we want him to do.

    Pro-tip: If you think something needs to be blogged about and you don’t see any of your favorite bloggers doing it, then do it your own goddam self.

    Replies: @Pixo, @Burnett

    Preach.

  153. @That Would Be Telling
    @HA


    I.e. this is just one more lie from the anti-vaxxers. How do we know? Their lips moved.
    That's a slight exaggeration, for sometimes they say true stuff, and they'll of course accept things from the vaccine ... careful? like questioning exactly how old one has to be before it makes sense to get a vaccination.

    What they can't do as I mentioned above is say anything without slipping at least one lie into it. For three solid years!

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @OK Boomer

    Nah, my go-back item is to remind everyone that in the first three months of RNA vaccination, as well as in 6 decades that preceded it, there was a rule that RNA should be stored at -80 Celsius.

    I remember the mockery when, in Jan 2021, Romanians, lacking proper containers, resorted to carrying the first Moderna vials in pizza boxes.

    I remember the sanctimoniousness of Americans seriously discussing, in Feb 2021, about sending to jail a janitor who unplugged by mistake one of these deep freezers that stored the holy Moderna liquor.

    Apparently, no one, including several Nobel winners for studying the RNA, did not think about storing it in regular fridges, until Fauci and Kizzmekkia thought outside the box.

    Can you guess what happened to the RNA on your second through eighth dose, after the storing rules have changed? Are you familiar with nosodes?

    •�Replies: @Jack D
    @OK Boomer

    Yes I am. Like the rest of homeopathy they are total bullshit with zero scientific validity.

    Replies: @OK Boomer, @The Germ Theory of Disease
  154. @OK Boomer
    @That Would Be Telling

    Nah, my go-back item is to remind everyone that in the first three months of RNA vaccination, as well as in 6 decades that preceded it, there was a rule that RNA should be stored at -80 Celsius.

    I remember the mockery when, in Jan 2021, Romanians, lacking proper containers, resorted to carrying the first Moderna vials in pizza boxes.

    I remember the sanctimoniousness of Americans seriously discussing, in Feb 2021, about sending to jail a janitor who unplugged by mistake one of these deep freezers that stored the holy Moderna liquor.

    Apparently, no one, including several Nobel winners for studying the RNA, did not think about storing it in regular fridges, until Fauci and Kizzmekkia thought outside the box.

    Can you guess what happened to the RNA on your second through eighth dose, after the storing rules have changed? Are you familiar with nosodes?

    Replies: @Jack D

    Yes I am. Like the rest of homeopathy they are total bullshit with zero scientific validity.

    •�Replies: @OK Boomer
    @Jack D

    Well, RNA drugs, including the RNA vax, are nosodes, if they are not stored they way the were supposed to be stored. We are not privy to the lipid nanoparticle manufacturing process, so no one can replicate it, but we are supposed to believe the RNA is stable in the regular fridge.

    I have seen papers testing vax stability after drawing through a needle, but the tests are very generic (electrophoresis, if that means anything to you). The fact is, if a single nitrogen base goes missing or twisted into some related compound, the RNA becomes likely useless. A change near the start codon, and it becomes completely unusable. It is like DNA mutations, except out DNA has lots of spare regions, and RNA has little if any.

    I don't think Bill Gates wants to castrate us, but this Hail Mary effort was useless, and lots of people behind it saw it as an opportunity to aggrandize themselves. For some reason I remember well the schizos around Radvac.

    Replies: @Jack D
    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Jack D

    Heh. You just used Covid vaccines and "scientific validity" in the same sentence. You'll be guesting on the NYT Op-Ed page next. Lemme guess what's in your desk drawer... something about Israel.
  155. @J.Ross
    @Ennui

    Ackman is Orlando after having paid an alcoholic poet a gullibility-demonstrating sum to learn poetry, angrily throwing the review into a brazier. Especially given that Gay is not being punished in any way, what was accomplished? Has there been any acknowledgment by certain people that resorting to simple racism against white people was as dumb as using chemical weapons on a windy day? I haven't heard it. Charlie Kirk was talking about this months ago, going straight for the necessary connection.

    Replies: @Ennui

    This sordid little tale offers no insights. It’s a great bit of satire, but there are no shocking revelations that would require any person truly honest about the US to rethink their priors.

    It’s nice in so far as it causes psychological distress and a certain degree of discreditation for our elites and their PMC vassals. But nobody is going to be punished. Things are not really going to change because of this.

  156. @Jack D
    @OK Boomer

    Yes I am. Like the rest of homeopathy they are total bullshit with zero scientific validity.

    Replies: @OK Boomer, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Well, RNA drugs, including the RNA vax, are nosodes, if they are not stored they way the were supposed to be stored. We are not privy to the lipid nanoparticle manufacturing process, so no one can replicate it, but we are supposed to believe the RNA is stable in the regular fridge.

    I have seen papers testing vax stability after drawing through a needle, but the tests are very generic (electrophoresis, if that means anything to you). The fact is, if a single nitrogen base goes missing or twisted into some related compound, the RNA becomes likely useless. A change near the start codon, and it becomes completely unusable. It is like DNA mutations, except out DNA has lots of spare regions, and RNA has little if any.

    I don’t think Bill Gates wants to castrate us, but this Hail Mary effort was useless, and lots of people behind it saw it as an opportunity to aggrandize themselves. For some reason I remember well the schizos around Radvac.

    •�Replies: @Jack D
    @OK Boomer

    Nosodes are so diluted that they don't even have one molecule of whatever it is they are supposed to have have.

    If the vaccine was biologically inactive it would show no reduction in Covid mortality and it does

    Replies: @OK Boomer
  157. @OK Boomer
    @Jack D

    Well, RNA drugs, including the RNA vax, are nosodes, if they are not stored they way the were supposed to be stored. We are not privy to the lipid nanoparticle manufacturing process, so no one can replicate it, but we are supposed to believe the RNA is stable in the regular fridge.

    I have seen papers testing vax stability after drawing through a needle, but the tests are very generic (electrophoresis, if that means anything to you). The fact is, if a single nitrogen base goes missing or twisted into some related compound, the RNA becomes likely useless. A change near the start codon, and it becomes completely unusable. It is like DNA mutations, except out DNA has lots of spare regions, and RNA has little if any.

    I don't think Bill Gates wants to castrate us, but this Hail Mary effort was useless, and lots of people behind it saw it as an opportunity to aggrandize themselves. For some reason I remember well the schizos around Radvac.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Nosodes are so diluted that they don’t even have one molecule of whatever it is they are supposed to have have.

    If the vaccine was biologically inactive it would show no reduction in Covid mortality and it does

    •�Replies: @OK Boomer
    @Jack D

    So how did the other epidemics come and go, before Fauci and Radvac? How did the pandemic end in China, of all places, without Kizzmekkia's RNA nosodes? How did Covid end in countries with almost no vax of any kind, such as ex-USSR?

    The similarity of results between USA and Ukraine tells me the RNA vax played no role in covid eradication.
  158. @That Would Be Telling
    @Jim Don Bob


    Evidently the libtards at Business Insider (whatever that is) have gone after Bill Ackman’s wife accusing her of plagiarism in her PhD dissertation.
    Her 2009 MIT Ph.D. dissertation, and she became an eventually tenured professor there before retiring in 2020-21 to be a wife and do things in the private sector (MIT also went batshit crazy over COVID so the above timing might have some relation).

    BI is a fairly prominent in its reporting as such on the tech sector, but it's also more of a rag than average for business reporting orgs, although more than a step above ZeroHedge which is more blatant in just making stuff up.

    Ackman went nuclear in mid-December calling out (((the MIT Corporation chair))), equivalent to Harvard's (((Penny Pritzker))), and his extremely woke wife for tax fraud that in theory could cost MIT its tax exempt status. See more in my comments in the previous Gay topic.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @J.Ross, @deep anonymous

    “BI is a fairly prominent in its reporting as such on the tech sector, but it’s also more of a rag than average for business reporting orgs, although more than a step above ZeroHedge which is more blatant in just making stuff up.”

    What is your evidence for this? I have found a LOT of useful information on ZeroHedge over the past 15 years.

    •�Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @deep anonymous



    ZeroHedge ... is more blatant [than Business Insider] in just making stuff up.” [To which I'll add too many people including here on iSteve are treating its attack articles on (((Bill Ackman's))) (((wife))) as gospel instead of finding out the truth, whatever that is.]
    What is your evidence for this? I have found a LOT of useful information on ZeroHedge over the past 15 years.
    The two are not mutually exclusive! Thus I read ZeroHedge despite knowing how often it's filled with lies. For the ostensibly good stuff I either trust my BS detector for subjects I know and often validate, or file away but don't promote stuff which I can't or don't want to take the time to validate.

    But evidence? Note, here I'm talking about articles without any attribution but "BY TYLER DURDEN," and the method is often trivial, including just knowing a subject.

    Find something that strikes me as questionable, click on the linked source, find the source does not support the assertion. It's part of how Michael Bellesiles was brought to justice for his claims the US was only recently well armed (modulo there were no links to click then). Its how I learned "Eric Striker" is a stone cold liar: long after COVID temporary disrupted US food supply chains by shifting demand from restaurants to homes, he claimed US farmers were destroying food (rather like under the New Deal, although I don't recall his making that comparison).

    Now, I'm the son of two early Silent Generation parents who grew up on farms and was born and raised have retired to one of those farming regions of the country, so I follow this sort of thing. And sure enough, his link which he, I assume correctly assumed most people wouldn't check (this certainly works well for anti-vaxxers), was to an article I'd read just when COVID was starting to really hit the US in early 2020 and was about farmers who'd been supplying restaurants with really perishable stuff.

    BTW, the above should not be taken as an endorsement of anything that ZeroHedge publishes, I'll just notice you can learn how reliable the various bylines tend to be on various subjects. For example I've realized over time that FreightWaves is not very good, that's another field I follow somewhat. John Turley is John Turley, for better or worse (am starting to recognize his columns based only on their titles; his problem is his conceit the Rule of Law is still a thing). Etc.

    Replies: @deep anonymous
  159. @Jack D
    @OK Boomer

    Yes I am. Like the rest of homeopathy they are total bullshit with zero scientific validity.

    Replies: @OK Boomer, @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Heh. You just used Covid vaccines and “scientific validity” in the same sentence. You’ll be guesting on the NYT Op-Ed page next. Lemme guess what’s in your desk drawer… something about Israel.

  160. @deep anonymous
    @That Would Be Telling


    "BI is a fairly prominent in its reporting as such on the tech sector, but it’s also more of a rag than average for business reporting orgs, although more than a step above ZeroHedge which is more blatant in just making stuff up."

    What is your evidence for this? I have found a LOT of useful information on ZeroHedge over the past 15 years.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    ZeroHedge … is more blatant [than Business Insider] in just making stuff up.” [To which I’ll add too many people including here on iSteve are treating its attack articles on (((Bill Ackman’s))) (((wife))) as gospel instead of finding out the truth, whatever that is.]

    What is your evidence for this? I have found a LOT of useful information on ZeroHedge over the past 15 years.

    The two are not mutually exclusive! Thus I read ZeroHedge despite knowing how often it’s filled with lies. For the ostensibly good stuff I either trust my BS detector for subjects I know and often validate, or file away but don’t promote stuff which I can’t or don’t want to take the time to validate.

    But evidence? Note, here I’m talking about articles without any attribution but “BY TYLER DURDEN,” and the method is often trivial, including just knowing a subject.

    Find something that strikes me as questionable, click on the linked source, find the source does not support the assertion. It’s part of how Michael Bellesiles was brought to justice for his claims the US was only recently well armed (modulo there were no links to click then). Its how I learned “Eric Striker” is a stone cold liar: long after COVID temporary disrupted US food supply chains by shifting demand from restaurants to homes, he claimed US farmers were destroying food (rather like under the New Deal, although I don’t recall his making that comparison).

    Now, I’m the son of two early Silent Generation parents who grew up on farms and was born and raised have retired to one of those farming regions of the country, so I follow this sort of thing. And sure enough, his link which he, I assume correctly assumed most people wouldn’t check (this certainly works well for anti-vaxxers), was to an article I’d read just when COVID was starting to really hit the US in early 2020 and was about farmers who’d been supplying restaurants with really perishable stuff.

    BTW, the above should not be taken as an endorsement of anything that ZeroHedge publishes, I’ll just notice you can learn how reliable the various bylines tend to be on various subjects. For example I’ve realized over time that FreightWaves is not very good, that’s another field I follow somewhat. John Turley is John Turley, for better or worse (am starting to recognize his columns based only on their titles; his problem is his conceit the Rule of Law is still a thing). Etc.

    •�Replies: @deep anonymous
    @That Would Be Telling

    I just wanted to thank you for your considered reply. I do not share your enthusiasm about the vaccines, but I'll just leave it at that, I do not want to get into an unproductive flame war about that well-trod topic.

    No doubt a site that aggregates from a lot of other sources will reflect the opinions of the sources, some of which may be erroneous, others with which we may disagree. Overall, I still greatly prefer a bias in favor of free speech and against the my-way-or-the-highway attitude of nearly all the MSM.
  161. @That Would Be Telling
    @deep anonymous



    ZeroHedge ... is more blatant [than Business Insider] in just making stuff up.” [To which I'll add too many people including here on iSteve are treating its attack articles on (((Bill Ackman's))) (((wife))) as gospel instead of finding out the truth, whatever that is.]
    What is your evidence for this? I have found a LOT of useful information on ZeroHedge over the past 15 years.
    The two are not mutually exclusive! Thus I read ZeroHedge despite knowing how often it's filled with lies. For the ostensibly good stuff I either trust my BS detector for subjects I know and often validate, or file away but don't promote stuff which I can't or don't want to take the time to validate.

    But evidence? Note, here I'm talking about articles without any attribution but "BY TYLER DURDEN," and the method is often trivial, including just knowing a subject.

    Find something that strikes me as questionable, click on the linked source, find the source does not support the assertion. It's part of how Michael Bellesiles was brought to justice for his claims the US was only recently well armed (modulo there were no links to click then). Its how I learned "Eric Striker" is a stone cold liar: long after COVID temporary disrupted US food supply chains by shifting demand from restaurants to homes, he claimed US farmers were destroying food (rather like under the New Deal, although I don't recall his making that comparison).

    Now, I'm the son of two early Silent Generation parents who grew up on farms and was born and raised have retired to one of those farming regions of the country, so I follow this sort of thing. And sure enough, his link which he, I assume correctly assumed most people wouldn't check (this certainly works well for anti-vaxxers), was to an article I'd read just when COVID was starting to really hit the US in early 2020 and was about farmers who'd been supplying restaurants with really perishable stuff.

    BTW, the above should not be taken as an endorsement of anything that ZeroHedge publishes, I'll just notice you can learn how reliable the various bylines tend to be on various subjects. For example I've realized over time that FreightWaves is not very good, that's another field I follow somewhat. John Turley is John Turley, for better or worse (am starting to recognize his columns based only on their titles; his problem is his conceit the Rule of Law is still a thing). Etc.

    Replies: @deep anonymous

    I just wanted to thank you for your considered reply. I do not share your enthusiasm about the vaccines, but I’ll just leave it at that, I do not want to get into an unproductive flame war about that well-trod topic.

    No doubt a site that aggregates from a lot of other sources will reflect the opinions of the sources, some of which may be erroneous, others with which we may disagree. Overall, I still greatly prefer a bias in favor of free speech and against the my-way-or-the-highway attitude of nearly all the MSM.

  162. @Jack D
    @OK Boomer

    Nosodes are so diluted that they don't even have one molecule of whatever it is they are supposed to have have.

    If the vaccine was biologically inactive it would show no reduction in Covid mortality and it does

    Replies: @OK Boomer

    So how did the other epidemics come and go, before Fauci and Radvac? How did the pandemic end in China, of all places, without Kizzmekkia’s RNA nosodes? How did Covid end in countries with almost no vax of any kind, such as ex-USSR?

    The similarity of results between USA and Ukraine tells me the RNA vax played no role in covid eradication.

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