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Let the Cauldron battles commence. Cooking Pot Slaughter.

Interesting how we are seeing an inversion of past narratives in the IT field.

In the ’80s, Steve Jobs was arguing in favor of lifting the export ban on computers for Russia, saying that each computer was a revolutionary tool that could help spread freedom. Back then, technology within Russia was tightly controlled, at least in theory, and xerox machines were kept behind locked doors, with some level of political supervision, so being able to hook-up a printer to a computer was a big deal. Western businesses, everyone and their brother, were smuggling computers into Russia, to use them as sweeteners to try to work business deals.

Now, Apple has stopped selling its products even though they are smaller and more powerful and easier to hide. Microsoft has also stopped selling its products.

Singapore will unliterally add sanctions against Russia, which is surprising for the journalists.

They are sanctions against interaction with 4 Russian banks, as well as some export controls against sending to Russia Singapore’s military equipment or dual-use technology.

Many individual wealthy citizens of Russian, store their money in Singapore, but these sanctions will not apply to individual people. I think even people like owners of the largest military manufacturers in Russia, are often moving money through Singapore, but this would be surely the individual people.

Singapore’s government will impose unilateral sanctions against Russia, a move which a former diplomat said was the first time in decades that the city-state was censuring a foreign nation without backing from the UN Security Council https://t.co/Fvc5T9MKvC

— Bloomberg (@business) March 5, 2022

Position of not adding sanctions to Russia, by Western bloc countries Turkey and Israel,* is seeming more diplomatically unrealistic for them, when even Singapore and Switzerland sanction.

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* Earlier before the war, Israel holocaust museum has tried to prevent sanctions against Abramovich, because is their second largest funder (https://www.businessinsider.com/roman-abramovich-russian-oligarch-israel-holocaust-museum-ask-sanction-donor-2022-03)

Here you can some of the multivector diplomatic strategy of the oligarchs. By donating to charities inside Western bloc, they can try to create some friendships on both sides of the new “Iron curtain”. Israel seems to be one of the “successful” places for this strategy, as they do not yet impose sanctions against Russia, neither against Russian wealthy individuals.

Some of the top oligarchs were trying to quietly say they disagree with war, according to “Jewish Telegraph Agency’s” article about this topic.

On Sunday, Fridman, Genesis co-founder and trustee and one of Russia’s richest people, became the first Russian oligarch to speak out against the war, calling it a “tragedy,� according to the Financial Times.

Fridman’s statement was followed by a similar one from a second Jewish oligarch, Oleg Deripaska. “Peace is very important! Negotiations must begin as soon as possible!� Deripaska, an outspoken Putin supporter who has been under U.S. sanctions, wrote on Telegram, according to the Financial Times.

https://www.jta.org/2022/03/01/global/russias-jewish-oligarchs-and-their-donations-come-under-threat-of-western-sanctions-amid-ukraine-war

Jewish oligarch, Oleg Deripaska. “Peace is very important!

Not to say that he doesn’t have human considerations, (any person who is not completely corrupt, evil and stupid, is opposed to this invasion of Ukraine), but he is also particularly vulnerable to the sanctions and has in recent years made his workers protest against sanctions.

Apparently, GAZ was very badly damaged by the sanctions against Deripaska (from the Trump administration?).

In 2019, oligarch Deripaska made his workers produce a “music video”, to protest (Trump’s?) sanctions against him.

Here Deripaska’s workers’ “spontaneous” 2019 anti-sanction song was based on a classic “Coolio” song.

Wagies Posting Ls.

Facebook is now blocked in Russia. Twitter is reportedly “restricted”. That won’t hurt the country, but there will be a deeper technological embargo on Russia. Moscow had grand plans unveiled last year:

Russia To Build RISC-V Processors for Laptops: 8-core, 2 GHz, 12nm, 2025

Russian outlet Vedomosti.ru today is reporting that the conglomerate Rostec, a Russian state-backed corporation specializing in investment in technology, has penned a deal with server company Yadro and silicon design company Syntacore to develop RISC-V processors for computers, laptops, and servers. Initial reports are suggesting that Syntacore will develop a powerful enough RISC-V design to power government and education systems by 2025.

The cost of the project is reported to be around 30 billion rubles (\$400m), with that the organizers of the project plan to sell 60,000 systems based around new processors containing RISC-V cores as the main processing cores. The reports state that the goal is to build an 8-core processor, running at 2 GHz, using a 12-nanometer process, which presumably means GlobalFoundries but at this point it is unclear. Out of the project funding, two-thirds will be provided by ‘anchor customers’ (such as Rostec and subsidiaries), while the final third will come from the federal budget. The systems these processors will go into will operate initially at Russia’s Ministry of Education and Science, as well as the Ministry of Health.

Russia can now kiss these plans goodbye.

Russia has also created ‘Erebrus’ CPUs in the past as an x86 alternative to Intel and AMD but their own interior ministry rejected them and scandalously preferred Intel processors. Russia’s security agencies have tried to implement “technological sovereignty” but this has clearly failed up until now. The upcoming embargoes will make it all but impossible.

That means they have to ditch any plans on self-reliance. There is only one option left:

Russia makes just 20% of the telecom equipment it needs. With Western makers gone from Russia, guess who is likely to provide the remaining 80%? This country will control Russian communications. https://t.co/n2bvUbAtCd

— Artyom Lukin (@ArtyomLukin) March 4, 2022

We all know which country he hints at.

33 Revolutions per Minute

https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/leaked-gov-t-document-more-than-40-ukraine-territory-captured-by-russian-army-75-of-ukraine-military-destroyed
Hal Turner shows a photo of a Ukrainian Defense Ministry internal memo dated March 4th calling a meeting to discuss situation – RU controls 40% of UKR territory, 75% of UKR armed forces out of action, Azov battalion is out of control.
On Youtube a Texan living in Donbass since 2014 confirms conflict between UA Army and Azov battalion and reports that Ukraine forces targeted Azov HQ with a huge missile.

This just in. An important announcement by the BBC:

‘They have attacked an unarmed village with rocket bombs…and murdered 4,000 defenseless, innocent…and peaceful citizens of Oceania. This is no longer war. This is cold-blooded murder. Until now, the war has been conducted with honor…and bravery…with the ideals of truth and justice, in the best traditions of mankind…until this moment.’

‘Brothers and sisters…the endless catalogue of bestial atrocities…which will inevitably ensue from this appalling act…must, can, and will be terminated. The forces of darkness and treasonable maggots…who collaborate with them, must, can, and will…be wiped from the face of the earth.’

‘We must crush them. We must smash them. We must stamp them out. We, the people of Oceania…..will not rest until a final victory has been achieved. Death to the eternal enemy of Oceania. Death!’

‘Brothers and sisters…one week from now…in this very square…we shall, as a demonstration of our resolve…as a sure sign to those who attempt to threaten…our Party and our State…we shall execute publicly…the same number of Eastasian prisoners…by hanging, drawing and quartering…B, B, B…’

Naaah! Just kidding. It’s from the movie script to Michael Radford’s 1984.

Relatedly, Sky news has released a video on YouTube of their reporters being ‘expertly ambushed’ in Ukraine, with all surviving. While no doubt some very bad things are taking place in Ukraine, on the particulars, as some of the commenters of the video have noted, the MSM has lied so much, how is one to know now how much is truth, and how much is simply more lies. Even should they be wanting to tell the truth on any given subject, it is difficult to believe them.

Of course, with a healthy skepticism, a person should do their own reading, and draw their own conclusions.

https://www.scripts.com/script.php?id=1984_1596&p=12

Morgenthau 2.0 incoming, self inflict.

Malaysia, Bumiputera. Surprising, no.

It’s going back to smuggling & pirating again, with the support becoming homegrown.

More reasons why pirate parties should be bigger.

https://fortune.com/2022/02/22/india-chip-shortage-semiconductor-manufacturing-crisis-design-solution-rakesh-kumar/

China will help out after they take over TSMC. Will be a great irony when it embargos the West in turn.

Companies that have fled the Russia market:

Entire markets open for Indian & Chinese businesses to enter, the rest pirated/smuggled/VPN-accessed.

Most of those are going ZERO before 2030 – WEF says so.

Guess that qualifies as indirect threat to kill, just after Lindsey Graham?:

In a phone call Thursday with golfer John Daly, former President Donald Trump talked about nuclear weapons and threats he says he made to Russian President Vladimir Putin

“They’re all saying, ‘Oh he’s a nuclear power,’” Trump said of Putin on the call, which Daly put on speaker phone at the at the Hoag Classic tournament in California. “It’s like they’re afraid of him.”

A bystander filmed Daly, who took the call while enjoying food and drinks inside the Newport Beach Country Club.

“You know, he was a friend of mine,” Trump continued. “I got along great with him. I say, ‘Vladimir, if you do it, we’re hitting Moscow. I said, ‘We’re gonna hit Moscow.’”

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/trump-told-golfer-john-daly-221602140.html

Not just a wagie, but a Russian eurocel (it’s all over for you guys, so sorry). One would think after assuring us for so long that this would never happen because all of Russia’s elite children study in the West, he’d own his L. Instead, he just keeps digging deeper down the hole, lashing out at people being corrupt, stupid and evil.

It’s nuclear retaliation, which Putin definitely should have known the US will do.

Trump is unreliable chickenhawk who will three times both deny and confirm this story at six different places, just the timing is interesting. All you need to know about real Trump is his (in)actions, not the words – was not even able to hit non nuclear Tehran in conventional retaliatory strike when his own troops and bases were hit.

Do you think Russian life expectancy will shoot up? There will still be alcoholization.

This is actually what I wanted to add after I can’t edit the comment on businesses quitting. But they will still have homegrown, Chinese and Indian alternatives that are as decadent.

What is the real reason you hurl out a pejorative term like “chicken hawk” about Trump’s successful Khamenei containment policy?

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Trump’s refusal to be lured in an Iran war is why you are upset. Thanks for admitting you are #NeverTrump warmonger.

Sadly, you may get your war after all. Not-The-President Biden’s attempt to appease sociopath Khamenei is likely produce a blood bath. (1)

the reaction from US-friendly UAE, under attack from Iranian proxies, at the UN Security Council; from US-friendly Saudi Arabia, under attack from Iranian proxies, via an interview with its de facto ruler Prince MBS in The Atlantic where he threatens to stop investment in the US and do more in China (Does Joe Biden misunderstand something about him? “Simply, I do not care,� MBS replied. “It’s up to him to think about the interests of America.� He gave a shrug. “Go for it.�); and from US ally Israel, under attack from Iranian proxies, which states it will ignore any deal and act as needed.
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a new nuclear deal is more likely to *lead* to war and see oil soar to new record highs.

How many people have to die needlessly before you stop lying about Trump’s record?

PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/total-disaster-why-iran-nuclear-deal-will-spark-brand-new-geopolitical-crisis

I think the kristallnacht events against Russian people in Germany and in other Western countries are useful for Putin. That’s because the Western propaganda that claims “We hate Putin but we love Russians� crash against these events. The Western rage has played out in the siloviky hands.

On the other hand, I think that Ukrainian forces near Donetsk and Gorlovka should start a strategic retreat toward the Kharkov-Dnipro line. Otherwise they will we trapped in a kettle. The Ukrainian forces should use their remaining mobility resources. Otherwise, the cauldron that Saker claims is closed (it is not) will start to close.

Companies that have fled the Russia market:
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Entire markets open for Indian & Chinese businesses to enter

Russia + Ukraine cannot feed China. While Russia will win in Ukraine, the next planting season will be poor (at best). Ukrainian farmers cannot afford fertilizer. And, there is no way to transport into the war zone even if they could.

Will CCP Elites really cut themselves off from global food markets to go after a Russian market of only ~200 MM people?
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SJW Globalists have intentionally ratcheted up hydrocarbon energy prices to push green mythology. This is obvious every time one fills up at the gas station.

What is less the obvious is the flow: Energy âž” Agriculture

A plunge in production & surge in food prices started long before the fight in Ukraine: (1)

[Fake Stream Media] Catching On, Now They Call It Food Protectionism as Hungary, Argentina, Moldova and Turkey Ban Grain Exports

Last year, CTH was one of a small number of people talking about the very real possibility of food shortages due to the cumulative effects from regulatory COVID mitigation and the fracturing of the food supply chain that government intervention created

The current grain issues are an outcome of a major supply chain disruption on the manufactured and processed food side, which is now exacerbated by higher replenishment costs and lower yields. Fertilizer costs have skyrocketed due to energy cost increases.

It is a perfect storm.

Without the Ukraine crisis surfacing, the grain (wheat, corn, soybean) and supply chain issues were already going to be a problem, and many of these current mitigation efforts -wrongly being attributed to Ukraine- would have taken placed without any regional conflict. That’s why we predicted these issues last year, long before Ukraine-Russia was in the headlines.

I have called Xi many things, notably “stupid” is *not* one of them. He sees the food crisis that is going to arrive in a matter of months. The CCP will stay engaged in global food markets in order to feed China’s people.

To buy food, the CCP will remain plugged into global financial markets. That means they must participate in sanctions. Poor enforcement and smuggling will of course occur, but massive new commercial ventures in Russia will be blocked for years.

PEACE 😇
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(1) https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/03/04/msm-catching-on-now-they-call-it-food-protectionism-as-hungary-argentina-moldova-and-turkey-ban-grain-exports/

In the interview that Lex Fridman did with his dad the old guy said the most revolutionary moment @ the Breznev group was when the young people got their hands on the first black market Beatles records.

I can get conspiratorial about this and claim much of the general decoupling is premediated between Putin & the West. Basically, Putin gets his empire and isolationism, while the West gets the high energy price to avoid economy recovery from COVID and assets from Russia. The common enemy is the common folk. Ukraine is abandoned by both sides, only getting token help from NATO, and China will lose later on by association with Putin.

In hindsight that Iranian attack as fair exchange (I forget the exact label) for the hero-general-assassination might have been the best (maybe the only) excellent maneuver the president kayfabe guy did. For sure it is the only one I can think of offhand.

May be, but I think China is and will be the big winner. They laugh on these “let reduce the carbon print� globohomo issues and, in addition, the will get energy resources at discount prices from Russia.

The conspiratorial view of this is pretty much “Hitler is a British agent” tier sh*tposting.

excellent maneuver the president kayfabe guy did

You have a typo. The word you should have used is covfefe: (1)

Covfefe’ (pronounced “cuv – fee- fae�) is an Antediluvian term for “In the end we win.� It was commonly used by the sons of Adam to rail against the evil actions of the fallen who had led man astray.

What you wanted to post is, “excellent maneuver the covfefe President did”.

No worries. Autocorrect manages to damage what I write too.

PEACE 😇
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(1) https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2017/05/31/cuvfefe-mystery-solved/

He killed the Iranian general though.

Putin made no moves against Ukraine when Trump was in charge in Washington.

Trump was the first to provide weapons to Ukraine; Obama had refused to do so. Trump stopped Nordstream. Trump correctly called out Germany for becoming reliant on Russian gas and for not having a military. This idea of Trump being a Russian puppet is rather bizarre and probably the work of Russia.

I suspect that if Trump had won a second term this crisis would never have happened.

OTOH if the crisis had happened, Ukraine might have been in more trouble, due to the fact that Trump triggered the Western Europeans and has not been a very good diplomat. The Western Europeans might not have come onboard as resolutely as they have done with Biden (or his handlers) in charge of the USA.

The Sky News reporter who pretended to be wounded in Ukr yesterday is well-known in Romania. He paid three poor losers in some Romanian village to claim their are gun traffickers. The morons found a disabled shotgun, put on balaklavas and played their required roles. The stooges and the reporter have been accused of breaking the regulations re. weapon safety. The Brit refused to show up for the inquiry, so he had a warrant on his head.

It’s been six years, so he’s off the hook now. Anyway, a bunch of CIA-sponsored Romanian publications told us poor Ramsey got wounded yesterday, at which point comments sections got flooded with “did he break weapons safety rules again?” and plenty of accusations he’s making stuff up.

May be, but I think China is and will be the big winner. They laugh on these “let reduce the carbon print� globohomo issues and, in addition, the will get energy resources at discount prices from Russia.

Both U.S. workers and Chinese workers can simultaneously win if decoupling takes place over a decade or longer:

— MAGA Reindustrialization will result in Americans making things for American workers. Concepts like “Carbon Footprint” will go in the dustbin of history along with Fauci and his masks.
— A shift away from excessive exporting will result in more China made goods winding up in the hands & homes of Chinese workers.

European Davos WEF Elites and IslamoGloboHomo will be the big losers. Their idea of UN/NWO consolidation under a single global currency is falling apart. One need not look further than the dysfunctional EuroZone to see their dystopian dreams dying.

PEACE 😇

Ramsey got wounded yesterday, at which point comments sections got flooded with “did he break weapons safety rules again?� and plenty of accusations he’s making stuff up.

Breaking news. One of Ramsey’s accomplices has been identified.

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PEACE 😇

One need not look further than the dysfunctional EuroZone to see their dystopian dreams dying.

It is now the globalists Plan B that worries me–a digital currency for what will be the slave states of the US and Western Europe.

Our propaganda and cancel culture is beginning to imitate North Korea.

Karlin would indicate that this is a positive development, forcing Russia to become more self reliant. The future looks bright for smart guys like him, with many opportunities to fill leadership positions within the Russian tech industry (finally a way for him to totally exit the blogging business, with its strange hours and up and down paychecks).

So what do you think of his latest assessment of the Ukrainian/Russian war, where he characterises Putin as being a “genius” for what he’s managed to do within Ukraine? Take a look at this article before replying: https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/03/politics/trump-putin-russia-ukraine-graham/index.html

Ukrainian Views – Russia Bashing Israel Supporters – Kiev Regime Military – BBC Busted – Fact Checks

Woman tells truth about Ukraine live on French media. Hosts are stunned. Part 1 video pic.twitter.com/0MU0woWVEM

— futurebrain (@futurebrain1) March 1, 2022

Familiar?

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1500052493765681152

https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1500014952593207297

Talk about double standards –

Can you imagine a @BBC correspondent posting advice for Palestinians on how take out the military equipment of the Israeli occupation forces? https://t.co/qWK7rbfNu3

— Chris Williamson (@DerbyChrisW) March 4, 2022

Re: https://www.unz.com/article/russia-ukraine-2-the-world-order-has-changed/

Excerpt –

The long column that so obsessed the “experts� on CNN is the preparation for the next phase. And that is this: “You didn’t get the hint, so now we have to hit you�. The fact that the column has been sitting there indicates that the Russians know they have complete air superiority. Secondly it is a message to the Ukrainian armed forces that it’s over, give up. (And one should never forget that the Russians/Soviets have always been the best at strategic deception, so who knows what’s actually there versus what the images show?)

SITREP Day 10: Many analysts are predicting an imminent defeat of the Russian military.

In reality, Russia is on the verge of annihilating the bulk of the Ukrainian army.

The people denying this are gaslighting you.

— Clint Ehrlich (@ClintEhrlich) March 5, 2022

Oops –

https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1500014251800502272

Disgusting if true –

Denis Kireev was believed to be the only person on Zelenskyy's team to advocate for a withdrawal from any NATO or EU membership in order to bring about peace. He drew attention to Zelenskyy's sudden billionaire wealth and mansion in Miami and cited him as a Western funded puppet.

— Ima B (@BlankName5000) March 5, 2022

https://www.rt.com/russia/551306-ukraine-negotiator-reported-killed/

Maybe not 120,000 Greeks in that area, while the gist being true –

Mariupol Azov battalion:
With Russian forces besieging Mariupol, in which 120,000+ ethnic Greeks live, SKAI news spoke with a Mr Kiouranas who lives in the city and exposed that Ukrainians are killing people for trying to leave the city.https://t.co/vQVBzXSRrD

— Elena Evdokimova (@elenaevdokimov7) March 5, 2022

A decent person would have placed all of those twitter images under a more tag so that the thread won’t take forever to load once the number of posts increases.

Also, claiming that 120,000 ethnic reeks live in Mariupol is rather stupid.

Trump was simply accused of calling Putin a genius or smart. Well, until he stupidly tried to take all of Ukraine things were working out well for Putin. Had Hitler stopped after Czechoslovakia he, too, would have been considered a genius as a leader.

Well, that’s the point after all. Trump made these statements after Putler decided to invade Ukraine. At the very least, his statement should be considered quite insensitive during these trying times, for both Ukraine and the Western world (and Russia too). I know, it’s only Trump blabbering away, but even still, it’s quite incredible that he’d say this and only adds more incredulity to his persona.

Mikhail,

Please limit yourself to ONE tweet above the [MORE] tag per Mr. Unz guidance. (1)

the large volume of Tweets and other embedded material has led to complaints of sluggishness, so I’m opening this new thread.

In order to minimize such problems in the future, it’s probably a good idea to use the MORE tag to hide all but the first Tweet in your comments and otherwise show proper consideration for your fellow commenters

As to the accusation about the BBC. They are an anti-Israel, pro-terror extension of Pallywood: (2)

The BBC recently glorified a woman who murdered eight children. By providing unrepentant terrorist Ahlam Tamimi, notorious for her role in the 2001 Sbarro restaurant suicide bombing in Jerusalem, with a massive platform, the news outlet showed its true colors when it comes to coverage of the Jewish state. Will the BBC’s anti-Israel bias finally be exposed?

Odds are the “How to attack Russian viehckes” poster is derived from a prior BBC “How to attack Israel military vehicles”. It is very sad that UK citizens are compelled to pay for anti-Semitic media like the Beeb.

PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.unz.com/akarlin/open-thread-177-continuing-russia-ukraine-war/

(2) https://honestreporting.com/bbc-slammed-for-glorifying-palestinian-terrorist/

The format is good (“decent“) enough. I concur with your other point, while noting that the gist can very well be true.

Wasn’t aware of that. Will do so in the future.

The BBC is far more anti-Russia than anti-Israel as noted in one of the tweets I posted.

Russia’ problem – or any advanced country’s for that matter – is not how to design a chip. They can do it, and so can half a dozen other places. The issue is a reliable, consistent, mass manufacturing of those chips that doesn’t cost billions to set up. That is also an issue for the West, that’s why the processor manufacturing is done in Asia, mostly Taiwan and China.

In case of an embargo that can be fixed relatively quickly with China providing manufacturing. Ask yourself if it would work as easily in reverse: West vs. China. The current version of the global economy depends on peace and open borders among all major places. Once that’s gone, we are all going to experience major disruptions.

Ceasefires failed, USA MSM wins. Russian MOD claims the shooting came from inside the city aimed at RU troops. But not in the headlines.

Putin made no moves against Ukraine when Trump was in charge in Washington.
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I suspect that if Trump had won a second term this crisis would never have happened.

Putin & Trump had respect for each other. Despite sending arms to Ukraine, Putin knew that attempts to join NATO were going nowhere. Trump refused to be lured into a war in Itan. There was virtually 0% chance of a Trump war in Ukraine. The pressure on Putin was thus, at most, symbolic. There certainly was no provocation.

Jump forward to the current occupied White House (1)

Russian President Vladimir Putin has reacted angrily after President Biden agreed in an interview that the Kremlin leader was “a killer.”

“It takes one to know one,” Putin said on national television, adding that the children’s taunt had a “very deep meaning.” People often see themselves reflected in others, Putin said, suggesting that Biden was projecting on him American guilt for slavery and the treatment of Native Americans.

Biden’s off-hand comment in an interview Wednesday with ABC News has ended months of tight-lipped anticipation in Moscow about where relations might head under the new administration. Hopes were not particularly high for the relationship, which Putin said in November was so spoiled that it couldn’t be spoiled any more.

Lack of respect and mental instability are very bad characteristics for any “leader”.
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I think we arrived where we are today because of a string of lose talk and terrible mistakes in communication.

Is Putin “Justified”? No.
Can one objectively understand why Putin felt “Badly Pressured”? Yes.

The various logistics columns are building up supplies for the use of overwhelming force. Putin will not be baited into large scale urban combat. The best option to protect his troops is use of artillery to flatten large sections of urban buildings. Neither side in the fight wants to see Ukrainian mass casualties & cities destroyed

I still hope that Zelensky and Putin can bypass the U.S. State Department and come to a deal. While I do not like Macron, he is a credible intermediary who can commit to rapidly revoking European sanctions. Macron, Zelensky, and Putin can share a Nobel Peace Prize if that is what it takes to stop this.

There is still time to step back from the brink of a LOSE-LOSE situation.

PEACE 😇
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(1) https://www.npr.org/2021/03/18/978751414/it-takes-one-to-know-one-putin-says-after-biden-agrees-that-putin-is-a-killer

Perhaps whatever business he starts will outlast the ones that just quit Russia – Westerners might start shifting away from many of the brands in the list for some other Cultural War cause, new economic needs or plain changing taste. Services and consumer electronics, especially. Might be ironic revenge.

Can Russians reactivate their accounts once emigrated? Or everything affecting Russian nationals instead of consumers in Russia?

Ceasefires failed, … Russian MOD claims the shooting came from inside the city aimed at RU troops.

Cease fires while combatants are in rifle range of each other are known to be unstable.

A badly maintained diesel truck backfires and an 18 year old over reacts. It does not even take a 3rd party instigator, though that is also a potential source. Any number of mistakes can happen. A fight when both sides show up at the same brothel? Not impossible.

Hopefully a new ceasefire can be put in place to buy time for negotiations.

PEACE 😇

As more and more real news about Putler’s unprovoked war reaches the common man on the streets, and his “loyal” advisors figure out the damage done to Russia because of this stupid war, Putler will meet the fate of other unpopular leaders, such as Mussolini or Ceausescu. The kremlins are already out to destroy any independent press, for only mentioning the words “war” or “invasion” in their discourse, for which the penalty would be 15 years imprisonment. Putler is a madman that needs to be dealt with accordingly.

Also, claiming that 120,000 ethnic reeks live in Mariupol is rather stupid.

What do you have against Greeks?

I have known many, and only one had a horrible smell, but rather like you were having bars of soap shoved up your nose, than anything else.

That was not intentional, but do people refer to Greeks as Reeks?

I’ve only encountered Greeks at their restaurants and they smell normally (though I suppose the pleasant food aroma would cover anything else up).

Only a joke. Curiously, I can’t think of any well-known pejoratives for Greeks. Perhaps, as a body, they came too late to the US to get any?

Though, wouldn’t be surprised if they had one or two in the Med, outside of Greece, where there were some long-lived communities of them.

Yes they have to build the wagon, but Deripaska takes the profits. When Trump then gives sanctions on Deripaska, he makes them record “Coolio” songs about supporting the working class. It’s something fallen from the mainstream timeline of history, in the stage between bourgeois capitalism and feudalism.

It was an intentional ambush of the Russian soldiers conducting safe passage for the evacuees. This is on Twitter.
Russians With Attitude@RWApodcast·2hWarGonzo, who is on the frontlines right now, reports that the Sparta Battalion was covering the evacuation of civilians from Volnovakha when they were hit hard by Ukrainian forces

Quote Tweet Semyon Pegov🇷🇺@wargonzoo ·3h⚡The guys literally covered the removal of people under fire with their bodies. The Nazis continued to conduct heavy fire on those who tried to ensure the evacuation. The battalion fought hard. There are losses.

Russians With Attitude@RWApodcast
Last footage of Zhoga. He’s telling relatives of Volnovakha residents, who asked him to get their loved ones out of the fighting, that he will do that. Thirty minutes later he went to fulfill his promise. An hour and a half later he was KIA.

This will make it much harder to find humanitarian solutions.
The Ukrainians under US tutelage want there to be as heavy civilian losses as possible to stigmatize Russia.
The ideological ones like in Mariupol act like a kind of suicide cult.
There will need to be OSCE observers next time they try an evacuation ceasefire.

Are you writing about Deripaska’s factory workers or myself?

I don’t think I’m interesting to discuss, but for whatever reasons (pessimistic instincts about politics) I have been “prepping” for a decade from such kind of situation.

Being a “prepper” is somewhere halfway between cowardice and wisdom.

If you want to feel sorry for someone, feel sorry for likely ten thousand people killed in Ukraine already, refugees from Ukraine who will soon be millions, people who will lose their family, never see friends again, young people never enjoy life again, etc.

eurocel (it’s all over for you guys, so sorry).

I have to google these words, as I’m not 13 years old. But I remember discussing with you when you said that inflation was not a problem, even without the geopolitical contribution. You still didn’t reply to the last comment when I was discussing about rising inflation.
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/based-putler/#comment-3249440 That said, people complaining about inflation while living in a safe country sounds a bit selfish and trivial in context of war.

of Russia’s elite

Yes, some people I know are trying to arrange to help fund for refugees, it seems like most people are not slave to demons of corruption and nihilism, even if a lot of original source of wealth had been ultimately derived with their assistance.

I think the kristallnacht events against Russian people in Germany and in other Western countries are useful for Putin.

Kristallnacht events?
The only thing I’ve noticed so far in Germany is some Russian conductor being fired from the Munich (?) opera, because he didn’t want to condemn Putin. And some restaurant hanging up a sign they don’t serve Russian guests (which was promptly criticized). But it’s not like there are general attacks, let alone physical assaults on anybody from Russia (let alone people being killed or dragged into concentration camps, which was what happened during Kristallnacht).

In case anyone missed:

Go deeper than the headlines at all hours of the night and day. Michael Averko joins @frankmorano with his analysis of the latest on the #UkraineRussianWar.
Hear it all and more:https://t.co/BETItKsjqI pic.twitter.com/UxVkxpTyuq

— TalkRadio 77 WABC (@77WABCradio) March 3, 2022

Here is an example of a less pleasant “nostalgia” of the 1980s.

Zbigniew Brzezinski, “National Security Advisor” in the White House, had promoted giving through Pakistan, weapons to Mujahideen of Afghanistan, in the war against Soviet occupation.

According to Wikipedia, there is controversy whether Brzezinski saw this war as a “bear trap” to weaken the USSR, in confrontation with the USA (with a Machiavellian cynicism). Or if instead, he had tried to prevent the invasion.

Later, in the Reagan government, support for Mujahideen of Afghanistan included Stinger MANPADS. Introduction of Stinger MANPADS in Afghanistan, resulted in regular destruction of Soviet ground support aviation, Mil Mi-24 and Su-25.

(After the war, not all the Stinger MANPADS were returned and there were worries that a civilian airplane would be destroyed by terrorists using this equipment.)

–

In February 2022, United States, Estonia, Latvia and Germany, begin to provide the same Stinger MANPADS to Ukraine, at the time of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

As in Soviet-Afghan war of 1979-1989, Mil Mi-24 and Su-25 are facing the Stinger.

35 years later and there is a historical “reunion” of Mil Mi-24 with Stinger but only the camera equipment and landscape changes.

🇺🇦🔥🇷🇺
Godzinę temu ukraińskie siły zbrojne zestrzeliły rosyjski śmigłowiec bojowy.

📸Igor �ucenko

Źródło: @EspresoTV pic.twitter.com/r9sckVTxAG

— WarNewsPL (@WarNewsPL1) March 5, 2022

Whether civilian airplanes will be safe after this, is another question.

Still peddling that old pro-Putler BS, Averko? The first 24 seconds sound like you’re describing yourself, knee jerk reactions and all.

Vladimir Putin declares war on the Straussians
by Thierry Meyssan
Russia is not waging war on the Ukrainian people, but on a small group of people within US power who have transformed Ukraine without knowing it, the Straussians. It was formed half a century ago and has already committed an incredible amount of crimes in Latin America and the Middle East unbeknownst to the United States. Here is their story.

Let’s dwell for a moment on this group, the Straussians, about whom Westerners know little. These are individuals, all Jews, but absolutely not representative of American Jews or Jewish communities in the world. They were trained by the German philosopher, Leo Strauss, who took refuge in the United States during the rise of Nazism and became a professor of philosophy at the University of Chicago. According to many accounts, he had amassed a small group of faithful students to whom he gave oral instruction. So there are no writings about it. He explained to them that the only way for the Jews not to be victims of a new genocide was to constitute their own dictatorship. He referred to them as the Hoplites(the soldiers of Sparta) and sent them to disrupt the courts of his rivals. Finally, he taught them discretion and praised the “noble lie.” Although he died in 1973, his student fraternity continued.

The Straussians began forming a political group half a century ago, in 1972. They were all members of Democratic Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson’s staff, including Elliott Abrams, Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz. They worked closely with a group of Trotskyist journalists, also Jewish, who had known each other at the City College of New York and edited the journal Commentary . they were called the “New York Intellectuals” ( New York Intellectuals). All of these two groups were closely linked to the CIA, but also thanks to Perle’s father-in-law, Albert Wohlstetter (the US military strategist), to the Rand Corporation (the think tank of the military-industrial complex). Many of these young people intermarried until they formed a compact group of a hundred people.

Together, they drafted and passed, in the midst of the Watergate crisis (1974), the “Jackson-Vanik amendment” which forced the Soviet Union to authorize the emigration of its Jewish population to Israel under penalty of economic sanctions. It is their founding act.

PNAC raised funds for the candidacy of George W. Bush (Jr.) and published its famous report ” Rebuilding America’s Defenses ” before his election . In it, he calls for a catastrophe comparable to that of Pearl Harbor which would throw the American people into a war for global hegemony. These are exactly the terms that PNAC member Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld used on September 11, 2001.

Thanks to the attacks of September 11, Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz installed Admiral Arthur Cebrowski in the shadow of Donald Rumsfeld. He held a role comparable to that which Albert Wohlstetter had had during the Cold War. He imposed the strategy of “war without end”: the US armed forces should no longer win wars, but start a large number of them and make them last as long as possible. It would be a question of destroying all the political structures of the targeted States in order to ruin these populations and to deprive them of any means of defending themselves against the USA [ 7 ] ; a strategy implemented for twenty years in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen…

Since the return of Joe Biden to the White House, this time as President of the United States, the Straussians have held the entire system. “Jakeâ€� Sullivan is National Security Advisor, while Antony Blinken is Secretary of State with Victoria Nuland at his side. As I’ve reported in previous articles, she’s heading to Moscow in October 2021 and threatening to crush Russia’s economy if she doesn’t comply. This is the beginning of the current crisis.

https://www.voltairenet.org/article215852.html

Wonder how Yulia Tymoshenko would have fared as wartime leader.

I just watched this interview of her in Al-Jazeera. She comes off well – tenacious yet dignified.

If only you could somehow get the point across to Dmitry, who evidently considers himself above the law (or should that be “above the MORE” haw haw).

Are Russians still laughing about the Ukrainian territorial defense training with wooden guns?

Maybe the Turks or the Bulgarians would have some?

Zelensky approval rating shoots up to 91%.

My guess is that Putin thought Ukraine’s government would fold quickly owing to low approval (31% before the war). Didn’t expect Ukrainians to rally behind Zelensky.

I’m not able to judge his military response so far, but his PR is quite good. Everything about him betrays an image of a sincere Ukrainian patriot.

Just look

Russian store in Germany.. pic.twitter.com/fNBdjcPXPc

— Geo_monitor (@colonelhomsi) March 2, 2022

Apparently that’s about a single supermarket in North-Rhine-Westphalia. Police have classified it as a politically motivated crime and are investigating.
Kristallnacht…lol. About as credible as all those “Nazis” in Ukraine.

Ukraine TFR = 1.23

Population projected to drop by 14M over next 30 years.

Someone needs to pay these Ukrainian babes to crank out more kids.

The rich, smart and beautiful among them should be mandated to have 7 kids.

Penalty for non-compliance is exile to Yemen.

They are a sight to behold. It’s a beautiful country including beautiful intelligent hardworking people. And Putler wants to destroy it? It’s a most despicable act that will never be forgotten.

A store having a cracked window and some eggs thrown at it is not in the same league as 7,000 Jewish shops damaged, 200+ synagogues destroyed and 91 Jews killed, which was the actual Kristallnacht.

But I suspect Russian media will make it seem that way, and Russian-sympathizing Western rightoids will believe it.

What next? Closing Zara and Bershka in Russia compared to Russians being placed in ghettoes?

I can accept that this event is not generalized. But you can’t deny that happened what happened.

Fucking ridiculous, some smashed windows and a bit of paint thrown at a supermarket is a total non-event, nothing special. Same things happen to Turkish installations because of Kurdish issues, or indeed to AfD party offices…or to many other groups. I even agree in principle that it would be wrong and a disastrous idea to target Russians for being Russians…but so far this hasn’t really happened in Germany (or to my knowledge in any other Western country).

Russia losing and losing hard. Ukrainians are the heroes of the free world. Actually, just of the world. I wish I was in a place to volunteer to support directly. I did book a bunch of Airbnb nights in Kharkiv. A small contribution from a small person.

C’mon! Be truthful, man. I saw CNN gloating about several Russian Opera singers been fired in the USA. I can pass you this example of the Western Orwellian hysteria:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/the-show-cant-go-on-russian-arts-cancelled-worldwide#:~:text=Vladimir%20Putin’s%20invasion%20of%20Ukraine%20has%20prompted%20responses%20from%20the,decisions%20taken%20by%20the%20Kremlin.

Also, Russians will be banned from Costa del Sol next summer and Nikita Mazepin banned from F1 (I tend to agree with this decision because he always was an awful racer). There are several other examples.
You are denying what my eyes are seeing.Try to avoid the double-think that Western MinTrue is pumping.
PD: Again; Putin and the siloviky are probably pleased to see this anti-Russian hysteria in the West. NATO regimes went full IngSoc mode.

There are a lot of Germans traveling to Poland in order to help Ukrainian refugees and even to take them back to Germany if the need arises. This help is greatly appreciated.

My younger cousin left his wife and two kids behind and decided to leave his comfortable American home and travel back to his birthplace to volunteer his services to the resistance. There are some 3,000 Americans that have made similar decisions.

PBS airs blurred photo of Bandera, while being non-committal of it relative to what the guy speaking says:

Watch this video and you will probably understand why the Kremlin has been successful in convincing many Russians that the war in Ukraine is necessary. https://t.co/WH9WFliyAS

— Artyom Lukin (@ArtyomLukin) March 5, 2022

Not the first time that Nick Schifrin has propped anti-Russian BS:

https://www.eurasiareview.com/16042016-settling-nagorno-karabakh-and-reviewing-the-peripheral-talking-points-analysis/

In belittling the Neo-Nazi issue, the likes of Fareed Zakaria have repeatedly noted the Jewish background of Ukraine’s president and prime minister. That spin is quite faulty as noted;

https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2022/02/27/russia-ukraine-coverage-update-what-western-mass-media-downplays/

We know about about the mud now. So the whole Russian armey is at the end of tis supply lines.

The naval infantry seem to mutinied. The VDV failed to capture one airfield before it was destroyed and may fragged 3 general officers.

Meanwhile the airforce.

https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/rusi-defence-systems/russian-air-force-actually-incapable-complex-air-operations

Another good one, this time with disco Joe Piscopo and Douglas Macgregor at the 21 minute mark:

https://omny.fm/shows/the-joe-piscopo-show/7-am-hour-the-joe-piscopo-show-3-3-22

Going into this show, Joe Piscopo is very unaware of the violent hostility of the Kiev regime towards the rebel Donbass inhabitants – in line with what Petro Poroshenko said in 2014: “Their children will hole up in basements [from our bombs], because they are not able to do anything. This is exactly how we will win this war!”

https://ainhoaaristizabal.wordpress.com/2014/11/18/httpwp-mep2sum5-6aq/

Neighborhoods without rebels leveled, hundreds of thousands of refugees going to Russia, many displaced and killed c/o Kiev regime action.

Good to see that Frank Morano isn’t the only WABC Talk Radio NY host offering a diverse overview of the Russia-Ukraine situation.

"I think Zelensky is a puppet, and he is putting huge numbers of his own population at unnecessary risk."
-Ret. US Army colonel Douglas MacGregor https://t.co/MdOmsjKdRx

— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) March 5, 2022

We were wondering during military buildup last month about OMON units. I had seen many buildups of OMON vehicles in those tiktok videos of military buildup before the invasion, in the days all were still hoping it was a bluff.

I could not believe they were actually riot police unit, instead of a more military special forces units with sniper rifles and heavier weapons.

But these are riot police units, which were in the first echelon of invasion.

Perhaps this is something Heinz Guderian has written about how you should do blitzkrieg, with a plastic shield to defend against Ukrainian navalnists.

A destroyed/abandoned Rosgvardia column in Kharkiv with OMON riot gear. https://t.co/hEYlFqpter pic.twitter.com/odCBz71eNW

— Rob Lee (@RALee85) March 5, 2022

Convoy picks up cars and anti-Ukraine talking points ahead of Washington arrival
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/convoy-picks-cars-anti-ukraine-talking-points-ahead-washington-arrival-rcna18716

Pro-Putin Disinformation on Ukraine Is Thriving in Online Anti-Vax Groups
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/pro-putin-disinformation-on-ukraine-is-thriving-in-online-anti-vax-groups/

Anti-vax conspiracy theorists in US turning to antisemitic pro-Putin propaganda, report says
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/putin-propaganda-usa-conspiracy-theorist-b2027230.html

Australian online anti-vaccine groups switch to Putin praise and Ukraine conspiracies
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/mar/02/australias-anti-vaccine-groups-switch-focus-to-putin-praise-and-ukraine-conspiracies

Czech anti-vaxxers turning into pro-Russian activists
https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/short_news/czech-anti-vaxxers-turning-into-pro-russian-activists/

How Germany became ground zero for the COVID infodemic
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/germany-ground-zero-covid-infodemic-russia-far-right/

The Far-Right Has Turned East Germans Against Vaccines
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/02/12/germany-vaccines-soviets-afd/

Putin’s Long War Against American Science
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/search/research-news/9357/

Weaponized Health Communication: Twitter Bots and Russian Trolls Amplify the Vaccine Debate
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30138075/

And last but not least: Mike Whitney at Unz Review

Mud seemed less of a problem than in e.g. 1940s, because the mainly column only drives on the smooth asphalt of modern roads.

On the other hand, this means most territory is not occupied, but it is mostly only roads.

So, this discussion about cauldrons can apply to cities being circled. But for light infantry, they seem to be able to often walk in front and behind each other’s line.

IT’S A PUTINY! Russian marines ‘MUTINY on warship and refuse to fight in Ukraine’ fuelling hopes of anti-Putin unrest, reports claim
https://www.the-sun.com/news/4795768/russia-mutiny-army-ukraine-vladimir-putin/

Russia will have to hit NATO, that much is clear.

I say start by taking out the missiles in Poland-bait the US warships to come across the Atlantic.

Sink them with one hypersonic each.

Tactical nuclear strike on DC.

No one in the US will go to war over nuking DC-they will be totally elated.

“riot police unit” – As if they really believed the official propaganda that the intervention (humanitarian) is about suppressing few neo-nazis who terrorize Ukrainians who actually are Russians and got confused about their true identity by the neo-nazis so a simple action of riot police would suffice to bring those confused Russians to their senses.

Clearly it indicates that the communication between Kremlin and Russian military is very poor which may stem from the systemic Russian cultural deficiency that goes back to the pre revolutionary Russia.

I do not think that American army invading Iraq would be carrying tonnes of copies of American constitution in Arabic to help Iraqis to learn about democracy as bringing democracy to Iraq was the ostensive reason for the invasion as that was what Bush and all American officials were talking about. Pentagon is not that stupid. But apparently Russian military command is.

Refugees in Saratov in August 2014. 500 children. 800 women. 1900 men almost entirely young from observation. Yong men fleeing conscription into the Donbass army not refugees from shelling.

Russia has no working hypersonic missiles and will not have for some years. Demo units are not production units.

War makes strange bedfellows of us all.

I am not anti-vaxx, but I am anti-vaxx mandates and what I regard as the general climate of fear and control that increasingly characterizes our culture and that manifested so disturbingly with Covid.

I am also anti-Putin and pro-Ukraine – so I certainly don’t fit your narrative.

The far-right admiration for Putin emerging during this invasion makes clear they do not have a principled objection to totalitarianism – they merely want to be the ones doing the oppressing.

But this has been obvious for some time, in their admiration for China – it is just more glaringly out in the open now, in a more disgusting, cowardly, and inhumane way.

It is clear now that the far right never truly objected to the control freakery and fear mongering over Covid, they merely objected to the side doing it.

If Putin was doing it, it would be great. I suppose it was a huge tell, and one that I didn’t give adequate attention to, when the same far right that shouted so loudly against covid measures in the US continued to admire China, and did not at all begin criticizing it, despite having the world’s most insane totalitarian overreaction to Covid.

That the alt right is now supporting totalitarianism and bullying in the form of Putin, should not at all surprise an attentive observer – which I admit I have not always been.

Principled thinkers and writers like Charles Eisenstein and Paul Kingsnorth who are not far right and are also deeply critical of the culture of control and fear surrounding Covid are not pro-Putin – not at all.

On the other hand, Tritelia Laxa has written quite eloquently against Putin and for Ukraine, yet with a tone of strident arrogance and superiority that betrays a desire to control and dominate reminiscent of Karlin and Chieh, just on the other side.

As I said, war makes strange bedfellows of us all.

Even you and I, somehow, appear to be on the same side in this Ukraine thing. Yet I completely oppose you in your fear mongering, hysteria, and control freakery over Covid.

Trying to link opposition to Russian totalitarianism and bullying to support for domestic Covid totalitarianism and bullying is a rather feeble and transparent play, but also a good example of how we live in confusing and chaotic times where apparent similarities may conceal vast differences, and alliances across lines point to a loss of a central organizing story.

As far as I can tell, the narrative emerging on the alt right or the far right or whatever you want to call it is that Ukrainians actually really do want to be absorbed into Russia, but the Jewish Zelensky is manipulating their helpless and pathetically weak minds into resisting. Or Jewry as a whole is doing this or something.

It’s absolutely breathtaking in it’s boundless contempt for Ukrainians and it’s ugly mockery of their sacrifice and courage. It’s a view of the world that is just contemptuous of humanity in general. As usual, only the Jews, or America, have agency, and everyone else is just a pawn or a puppet – a view generally promoted by Ron Unz, who finds American or Jewish machinations behind everything Russia or China does that he doesn’t like.

I was starting to think less bad of the alt right, but this war has reminded me again of just how utterly useless they will be in the social renewal that the globe will have to undergo after the breakdown of modernity, and how they are essentially no different than the Woke crowd and a symptom of the modern disease in a very intense form.

Another faction that seems to largely support Putin is the techno-utopians and materialists – generally, out of a worship of power and bigness and a desire to see bigness and numbers prevail, which validates their understanding of life.

Well well well, we do live in interesting times….

I do have to say I am pleasantly surprised by Dmitry not supporting the invasion and generally not being a water carrier for Putin, despite being a materialist.

If you occupy the junctions on highways in a modern country you get to pick the facilities you capture and/or Starve.

Its plan was for some kind of rapid entrance of forces into the population center, by driving the military very fast on these modern asphalt roads.

After the forces were in the city (as in Melitopol), then riot police would imprison protesters, while perhaps some Chechen units would follow the list to capture or assassinate the nationalists.

There are many videos showing destroyed prisoner transport vehicles. So, they are driving prisoner transport vehicles in Ukraine.

But because the first echelon simply drive fast on a modern highway, they are not occupying territory behind them.

As a result, there is not a real “Kessel” (cauldron) like in the blitzkrieg concept.

Ukrainians’ light infantry seems to be walking behind the first echelon, destroying more vulnerable convoys behind (according to a famous T.E. Lawrence tactic).

Here were around 30 vehicles destroyed in the convoy near Kharkov.

The scale of the some of the Russian convoys that are being attacked and destroyed by the Ukrainians has to be seen to be believed.🇺🇦

I have no idea how many casualties the Russians took in this engagement, but they would've been extremely heavy.pic.twitter.com/5eKSBitsxc

— Jimmy (@JimmySecUK) March 5, 2022

Man-child is throwing a tantrum.

Rantrums run through three phases:

Yelling and screaming. During this initial phase, a child asserts his or her will mostly vocally, often disagreeing with a directive.

Physical action. This is when the child may push furniture or throw toys, ultimately tiring out and bringing on the final stage.

Crying, whining and fussing. The more physical part of the tantrum over, bigger histrionics give way to tears and the child can be consoled.

Trying to bring in the propaganda BS of the Donbas war to cover the crimes against humanity that Russia is involved in today within Ukraine is not going to work today Mickey.

This is Russian aggression in its ugliest nadir. Bombing apartment buildings, hospitals, schools, churches, peoples houses is sadism at its worst. By trying to cover up these crimes by your nauseatingly low life manner you in effect also have the blood of Ukrainians on your hands. You and your fellow travelers are a despicable lot, I hope that you all burn in hell. And don’t try any of your stupid whataboutisms with me, wrong is wrong, and naked Russian aggression in Ukraine is just plain wrong.

Well, I personally think least bad option at this stage, is a quick and overwhelming Russian victory, to end what is looking to become a horrific meatgrinder close to the heart of Europe, but nonetheless I still find your blatantly imperialist attitude quite disgusting, not to mention extremely vulgar, the I think only word that describes it adequately is пошло�ть.
But either way, the only ‘upside’ of this, in the next week, it will either be Akarlin, Pharmakon, Mike Whitney and his Asian Attack-Panda all seething and writhing uncontrollably, or the other equally emotional and hyper-partisan side doing the same (Laxa, utu and Mr. Hack etc).

The evidence points at this stage that Russia severely miscalculated on the level of Ukrainian resistance, but it’s still far too early for any Armchair Generals to make any confident prediction, imo.
If I had to guess, I’d say Russia will take Ukraine in the next fortnight, at costs far more severe than anticipated, with immense damage to its military reputation, but ultimately achieving its goals, if not its maximalist ones. Like Finland.
And overall, I still don’t see how Russia will benefit from annexing an intensely hostile population of an utterly ruined land either. Any ‘demographic’ wins will easily be cancelled out by the accompanying emigration of skilled people and a dramatic drop in birthrates (which like the Russian economy, were bad already).

It didn’t have to be this way.

Why did it come to this?

Russia did not manufacture idiots. The idiots are homegrown. Russia used them and weaponized them. Covid pandemic was a prefect opportunity for weaponizing idiots. Actually it was the most successful disinformation campaign that Russia (and China) ever conducted:

https://cepa.org/the-evolution-of-russian-hybrid-warfare-introduction/
“The chaos strategy, and the tactical use of hybrid warfare, was borne out of the perception among the Russian leadership that Russia is locked in a form of great-power competition”

“It follows that Russia has seeded chaos via asymmetrical means through disinformation, cyberattacks, political subversion, business ties, and economic warfare, among other tools.”

“In this context, Russian operations must lead to information and psychological dominance of the enemy. Seeding chaos is, therefore, part of what Russian military strategists refer to as the “initial period of warâ€�

Every child including the man-child Karlin knew that fighting pandemic requires a concerted action in which all citizens participate. Every defector from the strategy weakens the outcome of the concerted strategy.

Undermining the resolve to participate in the concerted action started very early in 2020 with covid denial, it is just the flu, lockdowns do not work, masks do not work and make children sick and when vaccines were introduced that vaccines kill or are designed to make you impotent or turn you into G5 network receiving station to receive direct orders from Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab.

There is no doubt that Russian foreign language media played an important role in spreading anti-covid ideas and memes that eventually paralyzed response to the pandemic. The role of anti-vaxx Russian bots and trolls was already observed during measles epidemic that started in Jewish orthodox communities in the US around 2018.

English and French language Russian media account for 1200 articles about the Freedom Convoy in Canada which is twice as many what FOX did on the Freedom Convoy.

A Convoy Revved by Foreign Actors Spreading Lies
https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2022/02/21/Convoy-Revved-Foreign-Actors-Spreading-Lies/

While the legal concern about vaccination and vaccination mandates are legitimate and should be addressed but not when the concerns stem from paranoia and absurd conspiracy theories that are being pumped by Russian diversion.

The Freedom Convoy riders are not Jehovah Witnesses who have religious reasons against blood transfusion but wackos who believe that government and the whole Western power structure is out there to get them and the only savior is Putin who will protect them from immigrants, BLM and LBGTQ and vaccines.

That anti-vaxxers become purveyors of Putin propaganda on Ukraine is not a surprise and yours “War makes strange bedfellows of us all.” does not apply. It was predictable because it was designed so. And that there are some anti-vaxxers who did not turn into pro Putin twats is just an exception that confirms the rule.

What is your position on Putin and covid is is also irrelevant because you as it was well established long time before covid and Putin wars are also a twat whose opinions and positions are unprincipled and purely opportunistic adopted for the sake of having a random conversation.

What you say is pure projection.

The mass Kiev regime murder in Donbass is substantiated by UN connected OSCE observers. More shelling from the regime side than vice versa. More deaths on the rebel side than vice versa.

Seven years of not implementing the UN approved Minsk Protocol calling for Donbass autonomy within Ukraine. Never any sanctions or threat of sanctions put on the Kiev regime.

The record is clear. You can distort all you want.

What is your position on Putin and covid is is also irrelevant because you as it was well established long time before covid and Putin wars are also a twat whose opinions and positions are unprincipled and purely opportunistic adopted for the sake of having a random conversation.

Ok, that I enjoyed 🙂

I knew something like this was coming, I just didn’t know what form it would take.

Thanks for the random conversation, utu.

Well these threads have become more or less useless (read: overrun by paid trolls). I guess that’s the price for Mr. Unz’s leniency.

Ukraine doesn’t need any rebels. The rebels have always been a projection of the kremlin. Face it, you are on the wrong side of history. Supporting Ukrainian genocide is not the way to promote Russian interests in the world. The whole world cannot be wrong and Vladimir Putin and Michael Averko are correct.

Using Donbas war and Kiev’s actions in Donbas to justify the invasion and bombing of Ukraine proper is the moral equivalent of using Russia’s behavior in Grozny to justify the murder of people in Moscow of schoolchildren in Beslan by Chechen terrorists. It’s actually worse, because the Russian state has murdered more people than Chechens terrorists have. And because what was done to Grozny by Russia was much wore than what was done to Donbas by Kiev.

Congratulations for demonstrating the depths of your moral depravity.

Required reading

Ending the war in Ukraine requires acknowledging that it did not start last month. Since 2014, 14,000+ people, mostly on the rebel-held side, have died in a proxy war triggered by a US-backed coup, fueled with US weapons, & prolonged by thwarted diplomacy. https://t.co/cfZlaVvm55

— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) March 5, 2022

The US will fight this war to the last Ukrainian. If the war is lost then an insurgency strategy will be pursued. It was never about Ukraine, it was only about harming Russia. Ukrainians are mere cannon fodder in Washington’s eyes.

Boggles my mind that Ukrainians do not see this cynical strategy for what it is.

My prediction (unlikely right now): blitzkrieg in the Baltics, and then strikes on NATO and American assets in Europe.

US imposes the draft and is bogged down in Europe (like ‘Nam).

China is urged to take on Taiwan + 1st Island Chain and take out the US Fleets with carrier killers.

Strategic nuclear strikes in Western Europe and America that take out as many military, political and civilian targets as possible, killing 2/3 of the population, and that will ensure capitulation, even at the cost of 1/3 population loss in Russia & China, which is more survivable.

And finally trials on what’s left of American leadership.

If Putin is really the 4D chessmaster he will be deciding on this right now – Russian Foreign Ministry is saying Germany is insufficiently denazified, and the best sign we are right will be him saying the US government is fascist and must be eliminated. I wish this is wrong.

This should be the sole reason to blindly support Putin. A middle-finger to the ignorant Devils. Be the sycophants they think all of you are.

That is why I wholeheartedly support whatever Xi does.

I wholly believe that the Ukrainian Maidan movement in 2014 was a homegrown movement supported by a majority of Ukrainians to show their support for closer ties to the EU. That it just happened to coincide with US or Atlanticist strategies directed towards Russia, was actually beneficial for Ukraine. There is a general pattern within Ukrainian history to tear itself away from Russian domination that you should be aware of by now. This is nothing new that was recently cooked up within Washington think tanks.

Don’t worry, it is wrong.

Using Donbas war and Kiev’s actions in Donbas to justify the invasion and bombing of Ukraine proper is the moral equivalent of using Russia’s behavior in Grozny to justify the murder of people in Moscow of schoolchildren in Beslan by Chechen terrorists. It’s actually worse, because the Russian state has murdered more people than Chechens terrorists have. And because what was done to Grozny by Russia was much wore than what was done to Donbas by Kiev.

Congratulations for demonstrating the depths of your moral depravity.

Right back at you, adding that you engage in false equivalency whataboutism.

The Kiev regime onslaught of rebel Donbass inhabitants happened before the current Russian military action. An intervention of which I’ve expressed discomfort with – noting an across the board mindset on my part (whether done by the US, Russia, Israel and others) – much unlike your warped idea of ethics.

The Kiev regime onslaught led to hundreds of thousands of displaced people going to Russia and a death toll in the thousands. The Kiev regime aggression has involved leveling neighborhoods where rebels weren’t present. I’ve my firsthand sources from ethnic Ukrainians in the US, with family ties in rebel Donbass.

Chechnya had a clear terrorism problem going beyond Chechnya’s boundary. Russian forces haven’t done a calculated act of terrorism along the lines of what happened at Beslan. Putin hasn’t made the same level of an odious comment as did Poroshenko back in 2014 – something I referenced at this thread.

This should be a good listen:

You don’t exclude homegrown movements being co-opted by the likes of Nuland, which proves both accounts right.

(Somewhat like how Russians groomed and weaponized Balkan and Slavic nationalism against the Ottomans and Austria-Hungary, which backfired horribly at the end)

lol, Karlin is mad as rabid blind bat right now, cause just several days ago bombastically predicted the fall of Kiev after one night of shooting 🙂

Averko, I understand how Ukraine has been puppetized by NATO & the legitimate security concerns of Russia, but how does an invasion that violates Ukrainian territorial integrity (outside of Donbas & Crimea) be legitimate, outside of Putin’s imperial dreams? Even if the ship might have sailed after 2014, Finlandization is still a far more peaceful goal than wholesale invasion.

What should have been done is:
– Ukraine recognition of Crimea
– Federalization of Ukraine on the model of Russian local governance
– No EU membership or NATO troops, no Russian troops on Ukrainian soil
– Denazification of the Ukrainian security apparatus in the strict sense (firing all Azov Battalion members and any far-right bureaucrats), Donbas militias standing down
– Renegotiated Minsk agreement

Use of force in Donbas and Ukraine has never been necessary to achieve Russian strategic goals outside of Putin’s imperialist dreams. Keeping troops on the border works much better than invasion.

Anything I said that is supportive of Russian imperialism is after the fact, not from my principles. Russian imperialism has hurt the Qing (Treaty of Aigun).

About as credible as all those “Nazis� in Ukraine.

How Ukraine’s Jewish president Zelensky made peace with neo-Nazi paramilitaries on front lines of war with Russia

“While Western media deploys Volodymyr Zelensky’s Jewish heritage to refute accusations of Nazi influence in Ukraine, the president has ceded to neo-Nazi forces and now depends on them as front line fighters.”

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/04/nazis-ukrainian-war-russia/

Do you even yet know that you’re the one in shock and disbelief?

And yes “cockroaches”, such as the many bungled invasion apologists here, are stuck in that place with you.

Russia can now kiss these plans goodbye.

Couldn’t SMIC or another fab in China make it?

Over the past 24 hours, what I proposed relative to this US political establishment handshakeworthy Putin/Russia bashing prose that will get you on CNN, PBS and NPR:

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2022/03/03/how-to-get-to-a-place-of-peace-for-ukraine/

– Ukraine formally becomes neutral, with a limited military capability and gets back all of Donbass as a loose affiliate, while recognizing Crimea as a part of Russia. Along with the rest of the former Ukrainian SSR (minus Crimea, which has seen vast improvement since reunifying with Russia), Donbass is given an economic sweetener to go along with this arrangement.

– Quite possibly, a similar scenario can be reached with Georgia. Given an economic sweetener, Abkhazia and South Ossetia become very loosely affiliated with an economically sweetened Georgia, in exchange for a neutral Georgia.

– Georgia and Ukraine can join the EU, while being barred NATO membership, in accordance with international agreements, noting that the expansion of one military alliance shouldn’t sacrifice the security of another country.

– In turn, the hypocritically warped sanctions against Russia (influenced by Western governments) end (including the blatantly bigoted ones in sports and culture), preferably with cooler Western establishment heads acknowledging the arrogantly, ignorant, hypocritical and in some instances bigoted stances taken against Russia/Russians.

If implemented, this plan serves to improve the global economy.

Along the way, Russia improves at Western English language PR and media. Moscow can start by reviewing some of the people they’ve utilized from the West (Liz Wahl, et al) over others (ahem). Making the same mistakes are counterproductive.

Agree or disagree with Putin’s call, he gave seven years to see the Minsk Protocol implemented. Nothing! His call for a new security arrangement dissed since 2007.

I notice so far a lack of sanctions against oligarchs. It is a long-standing US policy to not go hard after oligarchs. The idea has probably always been to keep them as an option. There is even a mandated list of oligarchs (Section 241 of the Countering Russian Influence in Europe and Eurasia Act, classified annex listing details on each oligarch) to make sure the oligarchs know there is a sword hanging over their heads. So far, the only sanctioned oligarch is an Uzbek billionaire. His yacht and jet were sanctioned but there is a huge exemption in the sanctions for doing business with his companies including Norilsk Nickel.

US politicians like Lindsey Graham are really raising the stakes by calling for “Brutus” to step up while the US government maintains a sword over the heads of all the oligarchs. People who dismiss the stakes are high enough to warrant the use of tactical nuclear weapons by Russia aren’t facing what they don’t want to see.

After WW II, the Banderite hierarchy de-emphasized anti-Polish and anti-Jewish activity with hyping a bigoted anti-Russian agenda.

https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2022/02/27/russia-ukraine-coverage-update-what-western-mass-media-downplays/

US politicians like Lindsey Graham are really raising the stakes by calling for “Brutus� to step up while the US government maintains a sword over the heads of all the oligarchs.

Neocon weasel extraordinaire, he did get clipped a bit among some of his establishment peers for saying such.

If Russia cuts off gas supplies to Germany, it’s back to making Hitler gas from coal for them.

Yep, just as I suspected

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/03/05/russia-ukraine-insurgency/

They’ve already essentially abandoned us…only useful as to how much damage can be inflicted to Russia

I agree with every point you make in this post and goes further with the entire Novorossiya given local autonomy on the oblast level.

But as AK understands it, Putin is going for wholesale annexation and the negation of Ukrainian national identity, which I reject and hopefully you won’t approve of.

Banderites can be a party like the far-right in France and Germany, and even a part of the ruling coalition, but not having a militia on the Hezbollah model. Leave the use of force to the (reduced) armed or security apparatus of Ukraine. Ukrainian politicians need to (re)learn the balancing act that allowed Finland to thrive in Cold War.

Those already sanctioned by the US can help out, if they never expect sanctions from the US to be lifted.

https://warontherocks.com/2022/03/the-wargame-before-the-war-russia-attacks-ukraine/

Rus has literally gone soft on Ukr for hopes of surrender/reconciliation.
Marine Corps University admits as much with not a fraction of Rus fire power being used.

So?

Hikkikomoris don’t make good strategic analysts.

Well, I personally think least bad option at this stage, is a quick and overwhelming Russian victory

But then what? Since Russian control over Ukraine doesn’t seem to be all that popular with Ukrainians (including the ones in Russian-speaking areas like Charkiv which were supposed to be “liberated” from Nazis or whatever), Russia will have to keep permanent occupation forces and secret police there. Doesn’t sound like a situation that will be stable (even if there isn’t a full-blown insurgency).
Russia installing a puppet government in all of Ukraine or annexing large parts of it also isn’t something that could ever form a basis for negotiations, so the conflict with the West and the attendant sanctions will persist.
There really doesn’t seem to be any way out of this mess, unless Putin moderates his demands at least somewhat (which seems unlikely).

Karlin is Hutu and the rest are Tutsi cockroaches. Perhaps Russian army with their level of poor training and discipline would be more suited to use machetes.

They’ve already essentially abandoned us…only useful as to how much damage can be inflicted to Russia

Well, what the hell did you expect? You country was incited to endlessly provoke and get eventually eaten by Russia, ideally in the most bloody manner possible, for maximum effect across the Western world more broadly, as a sort of sacrificial offering. Perhaps that’s all the Ukrainian project ever was intended to be for global planners.

During the previous post-Soviet conflict, 2020’s Artaskh War (one with real possibility of genocide) as US interests weren’t involved you barely heard a blip, nothing, nada, anywhere in media of a single Western country.
Of course the global stakes are far higher with this Ukrainian War, but do you really think US planners or Western governments in general give a shit about Ukrainians? Probably a calculation was made long ago that Ukraine was more more useful as an open bleeding (now, literally) sore than as a functional country, the only goal from this point from the ‘Western’ point of view is to bleed the population out as long as possible, more photo-ops of dead children and destroyed playgrounds from Russian invaders, keeping horrified Europeans under US thumb and further crusade of modern agendas like gender-assignment surgery for young children, replacement of the native European populations and so on it goes.

But again, I don’t see how Putin thought mounting a full-scale invasion of the whole Ukraine was a good idea, the optics alone are disastrous, let alone the material and human costs of war between two nations that are practically the same.
I don’t to sound like a mirror defeatist of German_Reader, but it feels like Russia may have fallen hard into the Thucydides Trap, like so many other grim examples in history.

We will see. There’s pent up Russian chauvinism in the Black Sea coast. The there’s always a state secret police. Also the enticement of a German visa etc might loden that Nationalist Ukrainian zeal.

As I said, war makes strange bedfellows of us all.

It is not necessary to always pick a side. If Ron Unz has picked a side I have not seen it. In 2007 after a bunch of people had finally called out George Bush’s Iraq BS a friend of mine told me “you were the only one who knew”. I told him that wasn’t quite correct. A lot of people knew but I was the only one he knew that opened my big fat mouth which in hindsight I did not have to do.

This guy bought a ghost town in Owens Valley and makes weird you tube videos but you probably already saw them:

Probably a calculation was made long ago that Ukraine was more more useful as an open bleeding (now, literally) sore than as a functional country

I think that’s too cynical, there probably really was the idea that Ukraine could be flipped over to the Atlantic camp, thereby boxing Russia in and undermining Russia’s geopolitical situation. Obviously this still was a pretty terrible idea (not that I think Russia has any moral right to keep Ukraine under her thumb, but it was a mistake to underestimate how far Russia would be willing to go to prevent an Atlanticist Ukraine…in retrospect it would have been better to push Ukraine towards implementing the Minsk agreements, which weren’t ideal from an Ukrainian national perspective, but still preferable to what’s now going on).

There really doesn’t seem to be any way out of this mess, unless Putin moderates his demands at least somewhat (which seems unlikely).

Well, unfortunately, on the general ground facts, I don’t disagree. But now, after Russia has been reckless enough to initiate a full-scale war (perhaps not intended or expected as such, but in some sense, the incompetence implied by this is even worse) there’s simply no way of backing out of this without closing without uncontestable military victory, without revolution and anarchy breaking out in Russia itself. It would be the 1990s collapse all over again, except this time, absolutely no mercy would be given. Russia as a country would be comprehensively destroyed, to be totally Americanised, its corpse asset-stripped and flooded with pajeets and assorted Bantu tribesmen.

That’s why I said least bad. Only the US ultimately benefits from this, people say China, but thinking on it more, the country is could seriously suffer internationally from after losing Russia as a credible diplomatic ally, far more so if the Russian government itself gets toppled by a colour revolution, with horrific likely consequences.

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Crass.

He is an internet edgelord but now it really ain’t a good time for that.

It would be the 1990s collapse all over again, except this time, absolutely no mercy would be given. Russia as a country would be comprehensively destroyed, to be totally Americanised, its corpse asset-stripped and flooded with pajeets and assorted Bantu tribesmen.

These apocalyptic scenarios seem exaggerated to me, and tbh I’m starting to really resent Russians for their “If that would happen, we’d rather take down the entire world with our nuclear weapons” bs.
That being said, ideally there would be some attempt for a diplomatic solution (treaty about Ukrainian neutrality, recognition of Crimea, maybe Donbass too). But what’s not acceptable from a Western or Ukrainian perspective is “demilitarization” and “denazification” of all of Ukraine, and Putin seems to be unwilling to go for anything less…so in a sense it’s his fault too, if this becomes an all-or-nothing contest.

Small countries need to be realistic about the hand they’ve been dealt, Finland has been an admirable example in this respect.
Countries on the borderland just have to hypercautious for the sake of their own existence. Like, Armenia existed in a similar borderland situation to Ukraine now between the Romans and Sassanids for hundreds of years, any small violation of its perceived neutrality was the basis for dozens of wars, invariably much of them fought over its own soil.

Little countries with delusions of grandeur can only become geopolitically ‘powerful’ by destabilising their entire region, see Israel.

Putin has mostly wanted outright annexation regardless of how Ukrainians feel about that, and eventual annihilation of Ukrainian identity – more moderate demands are what Lavrov has been thinking. Russia will push on and even mobilize to get Ukraine under complete control.

Isolation plays into the hand of Russian nationalists who have been pushing for a full-spectrum decoupling, like Iran, and they get it now. And you underestimate Russia’s stability in that state – the Navalnyites are noise that is mostly emigrating like liberal Iranians after the revolution and those remain will either be loyalists or conformists. Iran has survived for 4 decades. So Americanization will be borderline impossible even when Putin’s gone.

No one benefits from this – this is Act 2 of the fall of industrial capitalism after the COVID agenda.

I think that’s too cynical

What it is, is déjà vu:

The Office of Policy Coordination and the CIA’s Office of Special Operations entered battle on this field. Agents were briefed and given false papers and sent on missions throughout the Eastern bloc, including into the USSR itself, where for several years after the war a Ukrainian resistance movement continued to fight the Red Army. This was a major and fascinating undertaking. The Ukraine was an acknowledged part of the USSR, so the operations were tantamount to war. It demonstrated the determination with which the United States entered the cold war. It also demonstrated a cold ruthlessness: the Ukrainian resistance had no hope of winning unless America was prepared to go to war on its behalf. Since America was not prepared to go to war, America was in effect encouraging Ukrainians to go to their deaths.

John Ranelagh, Agency: The Rise and Decline of the CIA, 1986, p. 137.

No, I don’t think that the Ukrainian movement in Ukraine has been coopted by the US or Nuland. There is a distinct difference in policy going on now, where the West has refused to go ahead and create a no fly zone over Ukraine. Zelensky has clearly pointed his finger at the US accusing it of being cowardly and such for its inability to do so. If Ukraine and Zelensky were under the thumb of Washington, he clearly would not be making such loud cries of cowardice. There was also the late shipments of weaponry that could have been made much earlier.

I couldn’t agree with you more.

The idea that you must always pick a side is one of the most idiotic ones in existence, but unfortunately deeply embedded in people’s psychology.

For instance, it seems obvious to me that all the major players today, the US, Russia, China, and Europe are deeply corrupted by different versions of the same ideology.

The idiocy of thinking any of these entities is a genuine alternative to the other drives me to the brink of despair.

As for Ron Unz, his essays and comments, and his editorial policy, seem to me to make very clear that he has in general picked a side on the supposed political divisions of our time, and in a very extreme and even comical way (he utterly demonizes and dehumanizes the side he opposes) – and I regard him and his website as being classic extreme kneejerk side-takers.

That being said, sometimes taking a side is clear and obvious – as in between Russia and Ukraine.

I generally believe that people shouldn’t be demonized but one must take sides against thought-systems and values, so in that sense taking sides is necessary.

Thanks for the videos – I had not previously seen them!

If Ukraine and Zelensky were under the thumb of Washington, he clearly would not be making such loud cries of cowardice. There was also the late shipments of weaponry that could have been made much earlier.

This is basic stage management, perhaps Zelensky is aware of his role, perhaps not. He doesn’t seem as intelligent or shameless as Navalny, so I suspect he doesn’t, it’s always more effective that way regardless. I only feel sorry for Ukrainians caught up in all this whole sham.

Lucky for Ukraine that you’re not the stage director. ðŸ™�

WE’RE WHITE THEY HAVE TO CARE ABOUT US,
WE’RE NOT BROWN LIKE YOU ARMENIANS!

interesting video, Rus didn’t have supply dumps in Ukr already.
Otherwise, things proceed as planned tbh, ground taken fastish.

Mearsheimer’s been right all along, but he definitely didn’t read Putin’s essay on Ukrainian statehood. Ironic that Ukraine falls before his obsession, Taiwan.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Editor-s-Picks/Interview/U.S.-engagement-with-China-a-strategic-blunder-Mearsheimer

The question in these instances always becomes, “Who gets hurt more?” If you could do serious damage to the Chinese economy and only minimal damage to the American economy or the Japanese economy, you would pay that price.

My reading of the interview is US setting up a 2nd Ukraine as a trap for China to walk into with an assault. What is being done to Russia economically is a trial of what will be done to China.

See:

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/08/21/getting-real-with-the-us-foreign-policy-establishment-realists/

We are seeing the limits of rational discussion when extreme emotions take over. It should help us understand why some events in the past happened – and how easy it is to descend into one-sided madness.

Creating a fake hysteria over ‘attack on nuclear power plant‘ is so over the top that only people raised in the retarded Hollywood world could buy it. I hope they did it consciously, if they are really that dumb God help us. When the music stops and dancing cholas go home, where will Mr.Hack go? How many booster shots will the latter-day Nazi ‘unz’ pump into himself?

Keep the blog for now. The story needs an ending, here too. There will be enough time to archive it once this is over.

where will Mr.Hack go?

Quite possibly to Slovakia! Slovakia’s support for EU membership for Ukraine, the sending of more arms to Ukraine, helping absorb the influx of new emigres, all point to a country that has more wisdom than some of its citizens. Your sovok ways seem way out of step with your fellow countrymen!

Also, your feeble attempts to minimize Europe’s concern with the mismanagement of nuclear power plants within Ukraine taken over by Russian invaders is really pretty stupid.

Go and re-read what you quoted in there. (You quoted nothing from him on China)

Below tweet reminds me of this exchange I just had:

They are being bombed !!!!
They are being invaded.
What would you do if we were being invaded?

followed by –

Imagine the media covers you beating the crap out of someone and calling it unprovoked aggression, without noting that you were responding to prolonged attacks on your loved ones by the person you’re beating up, coupled with your frustration that no one was putting a stop to that behavior. Like I said, what you’re watching is war porn.

You and your colleagues 8 yrs ignored the Ukrainian daily shellings in Donbass denying 4mln people right to live and now hypocritically blame us for trying to put an end to it?If you would have listened and acted when we raised this issue in the UN we would’t be where we are now

— Dmitry Polyanskiy (@Dpol_un) March 6, 2022

Worthwhile tweets here:

Tweets by MarkSleboda1

The sad thing is that Russia’s future fate will be the same (comprehensively destroyed) no matter what the outcome in Ukraine. If it manages to take over some of Ukraine’s cities, think of all of the time and resources it will consume in trying to subdue the insurgent countryside (that will spill over into the cities as well). Imagine the very worst IRA scenarios imaginable, that is what probably awaits Russia. Drat! There goes your comfy position as a director of some transhumanist research facility.

It might also have been better to not gamble literally the whole of the Russian cultural world’s future existence for the next century on a single dice roll instead.
What makes me so angry and gloomy is that is doesn’t even look it was intended that way (Putin has always been cautious, I doubt this was intended as some imperial reconquestica, rather a collosal miscalculation), but after such a step has been taken there’s no turning back.

I mean, this analogy will easily be misquoted or misinterpreted, but look at Germany in 1939.. re-armament had only just started, I didn’t even switch to a full war-economy until the 1943 or so.

Accidently posted early. I meant to say, Hitler hardly desired or planned for a continental war, at least in 1939, given such planning, but that’s what he got. And Russia is much less autarkic than Germany then.

@Mr.Hack

The sad thing is that Russia’s future fate will be the same (comprehensively destroyed) no matter what the outcome in Ukraine.

No reason to gloat, your countrymen, as far as they can be separated from Russia, will be even worse off in the event of a total Russian collapse, along with practically all the old Soviet ‘Near-Abroad’ generally. But you can consider you co-patriots lucky, Armenia will simply be wiped off the face of the earth, to join other vanished nations like the Assyrians, Old Prussians, Phrygians, Tocharians, etc.

What about loyalty to tribe, family, and nation even unto death and defeat?

What about the long game – where ultimate victory means many temporary defeats?

I suppose this kind of shallow opportunistic thinking is the ultimate logical result of materialism – one is “loyal” only to gross power and success, and only in it’s immediate short term manifestation.

Of course, this level of “commitment” never succeeds in the long run. Only uncompromising long term commitment – unconditional and “illogical” – does. If this is the calibre of “loyalty” Russia is attracting, I now see it has no chance of long term success.

This attitude is in such stark contrast to the “illogical” commitment, loyalty, and resistance of the Ukrainians.

But then, I have already noted that it’s an illusion Russia is in any way healthier on fundamentals than the West.

Oh, and one more thing – this attitude that mere failure is so terrible a thing, this fear of mere failure, is the small minded attitude that makes sure glory and success never come.

And yet, a materialist cannot help but fear failure as the worst thing, and cannot help but be defeated by setback.

If Ukraine and Zelensky were under the thumb of Washington, he clearly would not be making such loud cries of cowardice. There was also the late shipments of weaponry that could have been made much earlier.
Lucky for Ukraine that you’re not the stage director. �

Well, important government figures from South Vietnam also cried cowardice, begging for more weapons and support as the US pulled out from that theatre, people that are now universally admitted to be pliant puppets from across the political sprectrum. Were these people aware of their foreordained sacrificial role? Probably not either.

Although at least initially, the US had some hope of winning that war, planted political pots like Zelensky (however decent they may be on a personal level) just blatantly in Ukraine to make any real negotiation impossible, and go down whilst taking as much Ukrainian/Russian blood with them as possible. Zelensky and the Maidan leadership fight down to the last concrete bunker in Lvov, it won’t change Germans or Americans holding their nose at Eastern Europeans generally.
I mean, Bulgarians and Romanians have been in the EU for years and are still looked down on as dirt by Westerners. Even Visegrad doesn’t get much respect and still regularly gets dictated to from their betters.
Well my reaction to this nonsense got me riled up, I’m starting to sound like Beckow now.

AK (2022)
. . . on the freak chance that Russia “loses� to Ukraine, it was never going to succeed anyway, it will have proved itself a loser civilization that might as well put it out of its misery sooner rather than later.

AH (1944)

If the German people cannot wrest victory from the enemy, then they shall be destroyed… they deserve to perish, for the best of Germany’s manhood will have fallen in battle. Germany’s end will be horrible, and the German people will have deserved it.

planted political pots like Zelensky (however decent they may be on a personal level) just blatantly in Ukraine to make any real negotiation impossible,

The WEF Elites of Davos also planted Not-The-President Biden on America to undermine coherent & effective MAGA foreign policy. Almost everyone (including many commenters here) believe that this would not have escalated without the incompetence of a mentally ill White House occupier.

I hope that Zelensky sees the cliff that George IslamoSoros is trying to herd Ukraine off of. He is the leader of a Judeo-Christian country, not an SJW lemming The IslamoSoros should be treated as any enemy, and any NGO that takes money from his “charities” should be booted (or prosecuted).

Adopting Putin’s NGO policy would immediately build a bridge between the two leaders. And, it gives Zelensky an “out”. Blame can be assigned to the Open [Muslim] Society Foundation for interfering with Ukrainian sovereignty.
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For anyone pushing anti-Semitic conspiracy theories…. Please note — Israel is resisting WEF Elite warmongering and sanctions: (1)

Israel that made the most memorable overture to Russia of a historical nature suffused with great poignancy. Israel prevented the US from transferring to Ukraine its Dome missile defense system, which would have been a game-changer in the present conflict, on the plea that it did not want to act against Russia.

Both Washington and Tel Aviv hushed up this spat until its disclosure recently by the media. Then came the request from the Biden administration seeking support from Israel to co-sponsor its resolution in the Security Council regarding Ukraine. Israel refused.

Ejecting the Davos Globalists will place Ukraine, Israel, and Russia on the same side.

PEACE 😇
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(1) https://asiatimes.com/2022/03/why-middle-east-wont-join-us-in-isolating-russia/

…I’m starting to sound like Beckow now.

See, rationality always prevails. If people would focus more on what is happening and less on emotions and false analogies, we would be better off. Wars are a result of a deep anger and frustration. In turn, wars release more anger, hope, hatred, despair. It is all there, and here.

See the attached by Peter Hitchens (a good insight with the usual small omissions):

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10581335/PETER-HITCHENS-saw-coming-Thats-wont-join-carnival-hypocrisy.html

All of this is besides the point: when history is being made, muses are silent. Our and their reasons, self-referential narratives, emotional voyeurism – all of them are pushed aside to focus on the war. Any war is existential so the social noise doesn’t matter. The side that takes it more seriously has an advantage. Russia has traditionally not taken things seriously – until they are forced. Even today they keep on dropping into ‘normalcy”, hoping to keep it contained. It is obviously too late for that.

You are angry that Russia went for it and decided to cut the b..s. You look for analogies, patterns, history. None of that matters – it is a unique situation with untested players. It is something new. And the result, the consequences will be new.

When I was at fancy universities they liked to talk about “paradigm shifts” – people saw them everywhere. Usually they were poseurs, nothing was really happening. Now it is – this is the long-awaited paradigm shift. If you look up the definition, it fundamentally changes the environment we live in. So far we have: no Corona, no white people ‘nationalism’ left, no shrieking Greta, money is officially ‘funny money’, the Enlightenment is over. And nothing is funny any more. We will have to get used to it. Who started it and why? We can disagree, but why does it matter?

Could AK, or Our Benevolent Overlord finally please permanently scrub this.. thing from infesting threads here? I blocked it a long time ago, but now it’s interacting with my posts.

No, Putin’s government is a loser government. You see, if I worked for him and believed him when he said there was no chance of him invading Ukraine, I would have lied to him and told him Russians would be welcomed and it would be over in 2 days too. This is why open and democratic will always beat closed and controlled in the long run. Yes, it looks more chaotic, but that is just superficial. In reality, by getting the chaos all out in the open, it creates better results.

To paraphrase Augustine of Hippo: if you’re going to sin or makes mistakes, do at least do it consciously or honestly.

Amusingly, the only “Empire of Lies” that has been haunting Putin turned out to be his own bureaucracy and that is entirely his fault.

You mean “Elbrus”? These are products of MIPS Technologies which are produced in Taiwan.

I’m not sure what will be the effect of sanctions, but these were not important products anyway.

Overall, the effect of sanctions in Russia, can probably be exaggerated. Russia doesn’t have much hi-tech industry without sanctions, so sanctions relating to “hi-tech” industry might not have not much directly to destroy or damage, except to raise prices for consumers.

Simply, people will still be able to access AMD and Intel processors, but supply will pass through more “man in the middle” and prices will rise.

Even Iran has access to all these Western consumer products, just in prices only the upper-middle class can afford.

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“Big money” in terms of internationally competitive industries in Russia is oil, gas, copper, aluminum, diamonds, zinc, etc.

Companies like Alrosa, Rusal, Nornickel, Severstal, Gazprom, etc dominate the world in their sectors. They are often world leaders for those industries.

Deripaska is an example, where his wealth is not from GAZ group (automobile manufacturing), but from RUSAL (aluminium production).

Trump’s sanctions apparently throw GAZ to becoming losing industry (requiring government money), but this was never a source of “big money” anyway. His “big money” is from RUSAL.

Russia’s important industries (oil, gas, minerals, etc) might be much more resistant against sanctions.

On the other side, a significant proportion of profits of these industries, are washed outside Russia and returned to Russia as “FDI”. It’s possible sanctions scared people and a lot of these past profits might not be returned, but who can say. Maybe future profits, will be less washed outside? This is probably unlikely. Maybe in 20 years, economists will write some papers.

An oligarch like Altushkin is a British citizen, that lives most of the year in Great Britain, with all their family being British citizens living permanently in UK, but perhaps they will have more difficulty to wash profits of Russian industries into England and back into Russia again.

The US will fight this war to the last Ukrainian. If the war is lost then an insurgency strategy will be pursued. It was never about Ukraine, it was only about harming Russia.

Quite true.

A primary objective of the world wars, including the third one now in the works, and each utilizing (a not to be over looked) ever eastward moving ‘crisis in Eastern Europe’ as their starting flashpoints, is the reduction and ultimate destruction of Russia and the Russian people.

Ukrainians are mere cannon fodder in Washington’s eyes…Boggles my mind that Ukrainians do not see this cynical strategy for what it is.

True again.

While many (myself included) are quite sympathetic towards Ukrainian aspirations for peoplehood, the hard reality is that, in general, the powerful elements of the elites and hangers on who have long held sway in Washington, hate the idea of identity or peoplehood, ie ‘nationalism’, in particular that of Europeon peoples, including historically, that of their own Anglo-Saxon ‘everyday’ man and woman in the US.

This doesn’t, as you allude, preclude the breath takingly cynical momentary use of a people’s heartfelt nationalism for their own (US) strategic ends, typically giving these desperate and vulnerable people just enough support, but nothing more, to get them into real and serious trouble, before promptly abandoning them, whether it be the case of Poland in 1939, or the case of Ukraine today in 2022.

In regards to Ukraine, the ‘poison pilling’ of these nationalist aspirations with the deliberate inclusion and support of the ‘Nazi!TM’ Azov Battalion and such, so as to ‘just in case’, both ensure it’s being hobbled and crippled in the broader eyes of the world, while simultaneously and very specifically, acting as ‘bear bait’ for Russia, inviting an attack, should not in any way be seen as mere happenstance.

The controlled opposition, the modern day pied pipers of Hamelin who offer up a faux hope of an organic peoplehood to their respective American and Russian peoples via their largely empty and symbolic acts, Trump and Putin, the one historically a hyper-Capitalist, the other having been a committed Communist and career KGB officer, each in reality representating different wings of the so called ‘progressive’ internationalists camp, are amazingly also, irregardless of context, labeled ‘Nazis!TM’. (Have you forgotten the principles of doublethink, Winston?)

Naturally find a way to resist these things and do something positive for your own, but on your terms, and not theirs, if only by your refusal.

Required reading.

Thank you!

Some other ‘required reading’ under ‘More’ below. Excerpts (and a link) from a remarkably insightful and prescient mid-19th century US geo-political book which expounds upon the revolutionary global mission and program of the United States. Russia figures in this book quite prominently.

Though widely distributed and reviewed at the time of it’s initial 1853 publication by a major US establishment book publisher, today it is generally unknown, and, has long been memory holed. (Geez, I wonder why?)

Ukraine was bombing Donbass for 8 years and was ready to bomb it for another 80 years or however long it took until conquering it.

Most of the civilian deaths in Donbas (less than 4,000) occurred in 2014-2015.

By 2021 that number was down to 18 from January to October of that year:

https://ukraine.un.org/en/151093-conflict-related-civilian-casualties-ukraine-8-october-2021

Most but not all of these happened in rebel territory; some were killed by Donbas militants in government-controlled territory.

In 2020, it had been 21 deaths, so the number was decreasing.

To put that in perspective, this is lower than the number of automobile accident deaths in a mid-size American city, Pittsburgh (23 deaths in 2019):

https://www.city-data.com/accidents/acc-Pittsburgh-Pennsylvania.html

The civilian deaths almost always occurred when Donbas militants fired on Ukrainian positions and the Ukrainians returned fire. The way to end them would be to end the rebellion, either by stopping support for it or by annexing the territories and destroying Ukrainian artillery positions within range of Donbas. Invading all of Ukraine and slaughtering civilians in Kharkiv, Kiev and other cities is unnecessary for that.

There is no moral difference between disgusting filth such as Averko trying to excuse the invasion of Ukraine by pointing out Donbas civilian deaths, and the filth that justifies killings of Muscovites and Beslan children by Chechens who lost 10,000s of civilians from Russian bombs in Grozny.

So yes, it is morally depraved to seek to avenge the deaths in Donbas by bombing and murdering civilians in Kiev, such as this family (parents and child) who had been killed while trying to escape Irpen, a Kiev suburb:

Nicely done pic, but commies are pathetic as usual – hunger genocided the most succesful food producers in Ukraine, then managed to build several big planes instead, while having to import food from capitalists and try to present it as some miraculous achievement worthy of admiring, lol

1990s collapse

There will not be return of the 1990s economic chaos, as this relates to transitioning from command economy to the mafia-state-capture capitalism economy.

There is now this quasi-capitalist economy in Russia and the organization of the country has stabilized. Sanctions will not change this.

But sanctions will create a lot of extra inflation in certain products (which is bad for consumers) and probably strengthen negative trends of the last 30 years in terms of state capture and so on.

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Sanctions might contribute more of a parallel “import substitute” economy in consumer products, which could appear increasingly similar to Israel’s economy.

Israel allows import cartels, to make Western imports unacceptably expensive. As a result, it develops this parallel “import substitute” economy for many consumer products.

So, if you buy a phone charger in Israel, or some ballpoint pens and socks, the product can often say “made in Israel”. All over Israel, there are little factories, producing these kind of products, which a normal country would import.

What’s the result? Higher prices of consumer products.

There is one proviso for using as analogy for what can happen to Russia though – which is China. China is not applying sanctions against Russia.

Therefore the cheap Chinese consumer products will continue to flood Russia. Socks and phone chargers from China, will not be sanctioned. But if China has an increasingly captive market, prices may be higher than if it was a non-captive market.

totally Americanised, its corpse asset-stripped and flooded with pajeets and assorted Bantu

Most of Russia is being asset-stripped for decades. TikTok is more scary than any Americanization, and this happens anyway.

Population is being replaced with people from postsoviet countries only, as these are the one who do not have a better options. No, significant Indians or Africans will immigrate to Russia, unless it would become a wealthy country for normal citizens (there are not any of the incentives for attracting those immigrants of Western countries, of high salaries and high welfare).

2022 looks to be another Russian self-own, like 1914 or 1917. Many Russians were optimistic at the beginning of those disastrous misadventures, also. You have a lot of company.

Only question is how bad it will be. Sad.

The consolation is that on the truly freak chance that Russia loses to a fake and gay country, it will prove itself to be an even faker and gayer country, and will deserve everything it gets from a vengeful and embittered West.

If Russia wins it will be the same result, except the number of people living in misery will be greater by 25-30 million and Russians will be even poorer still due to having to maintain an occupation force and having to massively rebuild under conditions of heavy sanctions.

Yes, it seems like it allows the circling of cities. But then the logistics convoys are easy to defeat behind you, as you have created no wide line to circle enemy forces.

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Anyway, to return to topic of war, rather than trivial discussion about sanctions.

Here was a discussion on “Twitter” discussing about the battle of Kiev.

Ten days since the Russian invasion of Ukraine began. In the past 24 hours, we have seen limited Russian progress in the north and east, increased use of Russian air power, & some progress in the south. The capture of Kyiv is the focus of this thread. 1/25 (Image @IAPonomarenko) pic.twitter.com/0LeFl7X0YK

— Mick Ryan, AM (@WarintheFuture) March 6, 2022