Considering the FSB’s track record I expect a lot of the protestors will fall into coma and wake up literally good looking some weeks later.

This is an important point in time. If Navalny walks free, then Russians are cucks. If he doesn’t, they are not yet.

Sanctions are to follow if Navalny does not walk free.

Additionally on this issue, Russia urgently needs to move away from the West, which is not salvageable. Asia is waiting. Non-western world is waiting.

Some of us in the West don’t consider it unsalvageable but Putin & Russia do need to disengage and go their own way while we sort this out.

The ebil White Supreemises in America and Europe support multipolar geopolitics, respect for national sovereignty and aren’t allergic to muh autarky and pro-social societies – nigh universally.

I’m not saying #OneStruggle here, but we would make much better partners in co-existence with Russia, China and the rest of the planet than the Love the World, Rape the World neoliberal West today.

The usual. The cops will be attacked just so the protests make it into the western media.

Why cant the Russian govt just end this embarrassing dog and pony show ? It makes Russia look weaker than it actually is.

Russia hasn’t pushed back against the sanctions. So the US doesn’t even think about it before adding more. A nuclear power shouldn’t accept this. But China is more of a cuck. So that doesn’t help

The West is moving towards full blown liberalism, all the metrics are showing that. It is now an infected zombie that has nothing in common with the previous person and is trying to infect others too. Move away from it before it is too late!

I think you are behind the curve. Move away from the West when you have the time. You are dealing with the world’s smartest people and they targeted you for elimination. Only the combined power of the rest of the planet has the capacity to stop the new USSR being born in the West.

The Non-West has better immune system to all of it, this where the hope lies.

They did, by import substitution and moving towards Asia. The costs for the EU are substantial. A big Rus agri sector and growing non-western trade.

The US does think about it, this is why there are no SWIFT sanctions. Russia has the power to arm the whole world with high quality weapons and even nuclear weapons. This is a good card.

Russia destroyed the Old Colonial Empires with weapons support and has the capacity to arm the rest of the world, making it independent from the West. This is a good card to play.

If the West continues is attack, destroying the NPT regime and getting everybody to have nuclear weapons is a possibillity.

It’s funny watching Westerners get so enthusiastic about this Navalny nonsense, especially when many of them had never even heard of him until about two years ago.

If Navalny walks free, then Russians are cucks

If Navalny walks free, then Putin is a cuck. Here, I fixed it for you.

If Navalny walks free, then Putin is a cuck. Here, I fixed it for you.

No, because this is a western attack and you should not fall for it. There is a reason why Putin is causing massive triggerings in the West and they see him even under the bed, causing hysterias about him.

Whatever his is, he does not agree with the Unipolar World Order, Aka One Ring Rules Them All. He dares to push for a multipolar world over, where you have different systems and cultures and no single power center. This is why he is so hated by western hegemonist circles.

You could even argue how many of us Russians have truly heard of this prick Navralny.

I always knew the “100 million views” for the “investigation” was total BS, but further statistics were released- and after subtracting ukronazis, some Belarusians and deranged 1970’s- 80’s Soviet jew emigrees to the west….. it is actually only 21 million russians who have “watched” this BS, 6 million not even for 30 seconds! …. and 12 million not even into the third minute. So that is the majority of people haven’t even watched it but forced to display the video on their device accidentally because of the way YouTube has manipulated the promotion of the video .

For the entire 110 minutes it is only pitiful 3 million people who have watched this. You have to say allegedly though because a huge amount of these “views” are definitely bots. Then there is the section of normal people in the last few days who have watched it only after extensive talk on it in newspapers, federal channels, radio etc just to see the “argument” and what all the noise is about…. not because they are hamster moron Navalny incel freaks.

The opposition doesn’t seem very hyped this time. The protests from last week were smaller than what they had wanted.

Incidentally, reading that “Putin’s Palaceâ€� is an incomplete shell that’s 5-6 years away from being completed. And a billionaire – admittedly close to the Kremlin – has said he’s the majority owner and wanted to turn it into some sort of apartment-hotel (?)

So perhaps someone can clarify: How does this square with the allegations in Navalny’s video? I believe at least some of the images – eg Putin swimming – were admittedly photoshopped but where did all the lavish interiors shots come from? And if true that this “palaceâ€� is under construction, would the makers of the video be liable for misleading the public?

We are an anti-immigration movement, yet we do not take our own advice.

The Hong Kong liberals best chance of retaining democracy lies in staying put.

Perhaps it is the same for the Dissident Right

…The police will also be more brusque about breaking it up.

That’s the point. The exercises will continue until the brusqueness will be hard to watch. If the police holds back, they might help them along. It has been done before.

It is easy to understand all sides to this conflict, except one. They all behave as they should: police, government, behind-the-scene sponsors, “journalists“, except for the demonstrators. I don’t get them, are they protesting out of ennui? What are the rational goals that can be achieved marching for an obvious fraud, challenging a hardened state that has no place to retreat, in sub-zero weather and with ‘rona hysteria to make any action by authorities excusable? Who goes for odds that low? How do the sponsors convince them? Russian stubbornness seems almost medieval.

Reports out of their far east is that there is much less of them. 50 to 100 for the big cities there. Weather is really not conducive to protests…

Also when numbers are falling police can afford to use kid gloves. When numbers are growing is when you have to escalate. You guys worrying about soft police need to understand that the first protest was weak. It is counter intuitive but there is a time when it’s better to use kid gloves during the first time they come out. It’s also complimented by vigorous work behind the scenes by arresting the visible ones before and after the protest.

Yep, they are all jumping on this bandwagon of enthusiasm. When asked why, the answer is always a variation of “well, he’s standing up to Putin.” Supporting anyone who is anti-Putin is a no-brainer in the mind of an average westerner.

It’s funny watching liberal Western media crying about Navalny’s arrest while gloating about American dissidents being arrested for four-year old memes or putting their feet up on a desk.

I’ve wonder that myself. But every time I visit Russia and talk to people, I get the sense that certain people (young and old) just genuinely hate Putin. Why? Take your pick. It’s always easy to hate any leader, even when much good has been accomplished.

Some have told me they are tired of seeing his face on tv every day for the last two decades. Some complained about low salaries or low pensions. Some complained about corruption and wealth/income inequality. For some Putin is too much of a patriot and should end the Cold War 2.0 with the west (e.g. returning Crimea). For others Putin is not enough of a patriot and has sold his soul to liberals whose fiscal and monetary policies suppress the country’s true economic potential.

The list goes on and on. There may also be a generational divide (I’d have to see some polls). Younger = more anti-Putin, while older people remember just how chaotic the 90’s were and appreciate some law and order. He can’t please everyone. The haters see no better option than to go “medieval” as you put it.

Is there any other credible explanation for what happened to Navalny than that it was attempted murder by authorities?

Maybe the best damage control would be to plant rumors about it being a high tech military/intelligence facility. It’s probably not that far from the truth. Russians are much happier with money being spent on national security than luxury palaces. It potentially ruins some secrecy but I doubt the location itself was chosen to be secret.

I believe natsec would demand that it stay deniable.

He should have built it as a maximum security presidential palace from the very beginning, then arranged something for it to become the residence of the elderly leaders and statesmen when they retire. He could then retire there peacefully to enjoy his wine-making hobby. Everyone would have understood this and actually supported it.

But this would have also meant more accountability for the funding and spending. That’s why they preferred to keep it (an open) secret: to allow his cronies deriving an additional income (as if they didn’t have enough and needed more money anyway). With Putin’s circle it’s always “MOAR”, perhaps Shoigu is an exception : he doesn’t look obsessed with the ostentatious displays of wealth. But Shoigu is not from the Ozero Cooperative anyway, he’s from the “Yeltsin’s Family” circle. These people are more opaque about their wealth. Chubais also is not obsessed with flexing his riches, he’s always about power.

Your “source” shows the fake pictures that I have seen before. All interiors are renderings, that is, photoshop-like creations. It’s hard to take it seriously when they photoshopped a room for slot machines. They mixed up their anti-Putin stereotypes with their anti-East European stereotypes. (Not even anti-Russian, since slot machines have been banned for a decade, from 99% of Russia.)

Why would a private citizen need 16 levels of underground facilities? Only a state would be able to guard, feed, bring power / heat / water to people hiding there, if an event calling for such deep hiding occurs. I would think even gold would be worthless at that time, so private servants would be fleeing thousands of kilometers away.

But it can’t be a state fortress either, because it’s at the border, in a vulnerable place. I believe the sixteen floors are just as bullshit as the rest of the article. If Russians believe such crap, you are doomed.

A provocation by his Western backers, same who use Bellingcat. Maria Pevchikh was probably the one tasked with it.

That’s the problem with all “personalized ” regimes. People start to associate all the achievements and all the failures with the leader. When people become insatisfied for whatever reason, they blame the leader. If the leader is replaced with someone else, the system can avoid reforms. This is what Putin and his circle should do if they are smart : bring a younger, more energetic and ruthless leader. But Putin’s close circle, the Ozero Cooperative people and their retenue, will lose their privileges. That is why they keep Putin hanging on. Putin has said several times that he was tired. I am pretty sure he would go if he qas assured that the interests of his friends would be respected under an updated regime.

For all intents and purposes these are negligible sums relative to the actual Russian oligarchy created by the 1990s privatizations

I completely agree with you about this. That is why I answered JL that for me Putin is “Yeltsin 2.0 “. The major part of wealth is under the management of the “Family” and the “Chubais circle”. In fact I wouldn’t even consider these oligarchic clans as owners of the wealth, they are more of trusted associates “Ñ�мотрÑ�щие” tasked with managing Russian affairs.

it raises many more questions when putative “nationalists� and “Russophiles� do it.

Quite simple: if one wishes for the maximum Russian independence, competence and power projection ability, then one wants the parasites gone. Russia needs someone more energetic and ruthless than Putin to truly bring back what was lost and rebuild what was broken.

Tough times ahead, Putin is not enough to face them.

These protests are a joke, IDK why are you paying them so much attention. Slow news days? Why not reflect on Putins Davos speech.

Stalker Zone killed it with the OP

https://www.stalkerzone.org/munich-esque-davos/

Either way, this is as interesting and meaningful as watching grass grow.

In St. Petersburg, the police received reinforcements to fight the protests

BTW I read Cetopolis on your recommendation and it’s good. Thanks.

Idealist, Russias power projection ability is incredibly high, for the size of its economy and population.

Oligarchs should be dealt with, but only after the USA is down for good. I very much believe that the great Satan will implode in the 2030s or 40s. So till then Russia must just survive and stand on its ground. Then its time to deal once and for all with oligarchs, and especially with the near abroad.

It’s not US against Russia. It’s one (major?) part of global elite against everyone who don’t fit with their agenda. USA might well experience major perturbations in the coming years, it would not make Russia any good.

I agree that Putin is probably not as ruthless or energetic to counter an ever belligerent West but he is the best that Russia has , for now. And the West is decaying before our eyes. All the powers of Western imperium are based on civilizational values their current elites repudiate. Once the internal rot reaches a critical mass, probably within the next 2 to 3 decades, the West will lose their hegemony. It’s not yet time to be confrontational with the West, no rival power can match the USA.

I don’t really agree that Putin is Yeltsin 2.0 in the sense that at least Putin is not as dysfunctional as Yeltsin. If he were a Yeltsin 2.0, Russia would be even worse off by now and the West would have hailed him a “democrat” and Russia will be declared a state that finally “embraced Western values and norms”( ie pure vassalage). There would be no
need for any “Free Navalny” so called “protest”.

Having said that, I have to admit that although I remain cautiously optimistic for Russia to hold the ford while waiting for a full bloom Western internal rot, your reasons for “pessimism” have merit.

The global elite that wants to rule the world , in my opinion, is in control of USA and the EU. they may not be monolithic, even have internal squabbles for power, but they share some common views of the future. They have usurped power in the West and use Western imperial might to crush any rival regimes deemed as obstacles to their interests. In that sense, it is USA (and allies/vassals) against Russia( or China or other ‘ stubborn’ regimes).
Perturbations in USA and EU might do Russia some good – that’s away with too much Russian liberal influence and destabilization within Russia ( thanks to support and instigation by the West) and time to sweep the house clean and concentrate on nation building. Too much energy is wasted warding off unsolicited interference by Washington and Brussels at the moment.

I don’t really agree that Putin is Yeltsin 2.0 in the sense that at least Putin is not as dysfunctional as Yeltsin.

Exactly. Yeltsin would probably not have intervened in Georgia/Donbass, gotten Crimea, improved the armed forces, etc. Putin, for all his many faults, has found a way to balance competing elite interests, has enforced rule of law on the common people, and has improved Russia’s overall geopolitical position (in realpolitik measures) in the world. I can’t say the same for Yeltsin. That being said, Putin has failed to change the power structure set up by Yeltsin, but he has been a net positive for the country unlike Yeltsin.

I couldn’t tap ‘agree’ because of lack of comments. Agree with your views. Russia and other countries who do not approve of Western supremacy should just hold their ground and survive while waiting for inevitable Western decline. And start wresting the minds of their youths from Western propaganda …. This is one of Putin’s weaknesses. He failed in this one.

As much as I doubt the Council / Slot Machine Room and the 16 floors underground, I doubt any price listed by your sources. I am not saying we must listen to Putin, but your source is transparently lying.

We should understand that the future envisioned by the global elite is a future without distinct nations or cultures. They want a well controlled world-system managed in a way to bring it in balance with the capacity of the biosphere to renew itself. They actually want to ensure the long term survival of the human species by culling the herds and preventing the Singularity, while also holding a tight control on any emerging technologies.

The future envisioned by the global elite is entirely compatible with the Chinese model, in fact arguably they want to emulate the same model in the West. But before they do that, the Western cultural codes should be weakenef through a cultural revolution. Just like the Han Chinese cultural code has been weakened through Maoist cultural revolution.

Therefore, any analysis based on “nations”, “religions”, “cultures” is somewhat outdated. And I write this as a nationalist and a great admirer of Alain de Benoist. I write it with a certain amount of sadness…

It’s not about how much it really costs, but how much might have been embezzled. Think Sochi Olympics scale embezzlement.

Thank you my friend!

And start wresting the minds of their youths from Western propaganda …. This is one of Putin’s weaknesses. He failed in this one.

Its very hard for a country with the population size of Russia, to develop somekind of cultural autarchy, especially when geographically Europe is so near and Beijing is so far, at least for most Russians.

Russian cultural codes have been weakened, sometimes brutally, since the Raskol times. It took 400 years to bring Russia into the state in which it is today, that is acute cultural weakness and identity confusion.

You are a non pragmatist dreamer. Lets analyze your logic, you think that theres something like genuine Russianness or Chineseness, which was weakened or destroyed by different historical incidents or leaders. If we follow your line of thought we can claim that Ivan IV already weakened traditional Russian culture, with his centralization and oprichina, after all he did his very best in destruction of local identities and traditional nobility, if we go further we can say that Mongols destroyed the traditional Russian values, if we go even further we can claim such humbug, that it was the Christianity which destroyed the primordial or original characteristics of the Rus people. In my opinion, this logic you employ, is utterly silly.

Less thinking of permanent fixed states or phenomena, more thinking of processes without beginning and end.

If you think about cultural inferiority complex in relation with the West, that is shared by almost all educated Slavs, Chinese and Indians, even if they dont want to acknowledge it, so Russia is not so unique as you think. Its quite widespread and subconsciously present problem almost everywhere in the third world. Again one good point why Russians are POC.

All that glisters is not gold—
Often have you heard that told.
Many a man his life hath sold
But my outside to behold.
Gilded tombs do worms enfold.
Had you been as wise as bold,
Young in limbs, in judgment old,
Your answer had not been inscrolled
Fare you well. Your suit is cold

Less thinking of permanent fixed states or phenomena, more thinking of processes without beginning and end.

This makes everything distinct irrelevant. It all becomes an all encompassing process in the end. A kind of monism. So why should we care about ethnic, cultural or religious differences at all in the end?

How come the only sources for Putinist embezzlement happen to be the same Western propaganda tools? After 2020, how can you still believe anything you read in the official Western press?

“Dmitry Kozak, deputy prime minister in charge of Olympic preparations, has argued that the $51 billion number is misleading. Only $6 billion of that is directly Olympics-related, he says; the rest has gone to infrastructure and regional development the state would have carried out anyway. That may be true, though it’s hard to imagine the Russian government building an $8.7 billion road and railway up to the mountains without the Games.”

NYC and Boston have spent 2 billons each for three additional subway stations. SF is spending one billion on an extension with 3 tram stations. Have they no shame? The NYC subway was running two blocks away already. Infrastructure for me, not for thee. High bills from my contractors, not yours.

Many British people have a cultural inferiority complex with mainland Europe, believe it or not. Many British people would regard Russians and Slavs generally as more cultured, more civilised and better educated than themselves.

So this works both ways really, the idea that most British people look down on Slavs as culturally inferior third worlders is far from the truth. I would not describe Britain is a culturally self-confident country these days. The prevailing mentality amongst the middle and upper class British is that there is no one more uncivilised and uncouth than the working class British, desparagingly referred to as “chavs”. Think “gopnik” but said with even more venom and hatred.

It’s funny watching liberal Western media crying about Navalny’s arrest while gloating about American dissidents being arrested for four-year old memes or putting their feet up on a desk.

That, too. The West has become self-parody. While Obama’s Nobel peace prize was a farce, nomination of BLM bandits is a sick joke. I think Putin wants to look better than the Empire, not in the eyes of the vassals (those are blind, anyway), but in the eyes of 4/5th of the world made of non-vassals, or countries where a tiny compradore elite wants to serve the Empire, whereas 95% of the population hates imperial guts, like Latin America.

Also, considering how pathetically puny those “protests� are, Putin can afford to treat them with kids gloves. That creates a strong contrast with brutality of “liberal� imperial elites, who are anything but liberal. Internally, these protests appear ridiculous. Most people see “protesters� as escaped mental institution inmates, feeling a mix of contempt, disgust, and pity. For the world they look like an illustration of humane nature of alleged “authoritarian� state, in contrast to ruthless brutality of self-appointed “democracies�.

I don’t believe anything I read either in Russian or Western MSM. They both lie. RT or CNN, both are propaganda tools. We live in a post-Truth world.

RT or CNN, both are propaganda tools.

While this is true in general, there is a difference how much you need to lie when you are OK with 2�2=4, or when you claim that 2�2=5.5. A simple example: Ukies need to lie a lot more than LDNR, even though I don’t doubt that LDNR leadership would stoop to lies whenever they feel the need.

To try to find a semblance of truth about anything important today, one needs to go through different opposing sources of information and then try to make a synthesis of the opposing narratives.

If you think about cultural inferiority complex in relation with the West, that is shared by almost all educated Slavs, Chinese and Indians, even if they dont want to acknowledge it, so Russia is not so unique as you think. Its quite widespread and subconsciously present problem almost everywhere in the third world. Again one good point why Russians are POC.

This is strange though, for most educated Westerners Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Chekov are cultural reference points on a level with Shakespeare, Ibsen, Goethe, Homer etc. as being amongst the greatest European writers. The Tsars still retain a reputation as being amongst the most splendid monarchs in Europe, the Soviet Army in its heyday as one of the most powerful and developed European militaries and so on. This kind of cultural recognition doesn’t fit easily with the POC label, though maybe it is more prevalent among people who are old enough to remember something of the period before the fall of the USSR, when ‘Russia’ was the other great superpower.

Many British people have a cultural inferiority complex with mainland Europe, believe it or not. Many British people would regard Russians and Slavs generally as more cultured, more civilised and better educated than themselves.

You come across people who give this impression but I wonder how genuine it is, because there is this trait among some progressive British middle class people of denigrating Britain and British culture and ostentatiously showing respect and consideration for other countries and peoples as a way of criticising things they don’t like in their own.

But, as I wrote in my comment above, wealthy and powerful figures from the pre-1917 Russian Empire, they would show unfeigned respect to and have actual interest in (you see this a fair bit with the Romanovs), the KGB was genuinely respected and feared as an intelligence agency etc. In some way you can see this in books and cultural publishing, there was a healthy interest in books about many aspects of the Soviet Union and people would study them to measure Western institutions against them and learn new things. This was in the 1945-1980s period, pre-glasnost.

That’s exactly what we did in the USSR. You just need to figure out what the interests of the source’s owner(s) are, so that you can determine what’s untrustworthy 100%, what’s 50%, or what is likely to be the truth, or at least close to it.

Except now you can’t assume that anything is too big to be a lie: lies can be colossal. Like, according to the Western MSM before Islamist bandits were kicked out of Aleppo, it had more hospitals than the entire world, all of which were bombed for the umpteenth time by Russia and Syrian government. Have you heard about Aleppo hospitals after that? Not a squeak. Or how much have you heard about Darfur in the last few years? Used to be a headliner in every libtard MSM some time ago. Now – deafening silence.

As a biologist, I can tell you this: nature gave us two eyes for a reason, you can’t see the reality with just one.

Of course Putin can be viewed as both “Yeltsin 2.0” and “anti-Yeltsin”.

Putin was installed, and has succeeded in, protecting and stabilizing an elite that significantly developed from a chaotic re-distribution of the economy in the early 1990s. Putin’s main internal effect will be judged – to stabilize and consolidate the results of the revolutionary years, and now leave impossible a “Bourbon Restoration” that could undo the main results of a chaos, or prosecute those responsible or beneficiaries of it.

On the other hand, Putin is successful in consolidating a system and creating political stability, partly because he is anti-Yeltsin, and adequate in many ways that Yeltsin was inadequate as President – for example, in the level of his image management which is important for centrist leader and for restoring confidence in a country. (Yeltsin was losing control of himself in his 60s).

In terms of external policy, Putin inherited the project of Primakov, but unlike in the 1990s, there is a lot more stable power behind it.

Ideologically, Putin follows the aims of the external policy of Yeltsin’s second term. This is known as the second phase of Yeltsin’s external policy, that followed the infamously “naively pro-Western” first phase under Andrey Kozyrev.

However, with Putin, it is an opposite to Yeltsin’s second term, in terms of effectiveness. Primakov only achieved an ideological re-orientation – but his confrontation with the USA was limited to gestures; while in the years of Putin’s presidency they actually succeeded to follow part of the ideology, sometimes with positive results, including the restoration of Crimea. So, Putin follows the “doctrine of Primakov” of Yeltsin’s second term, but has been able to achieve something successful with it, which is the opposite of Yeltsin.

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*In my opinion, consolidating an imperfect mess, is still likely usually to be a positive achievement in political history. When you are shifting on the bed trying to sleep, and if you even roll into an uncomfortable position; that’s bad, but – at some point it is better to stay still and settle.

I too am a nationalist but I am not a citizen of China and I am definitely a Russophile. Despite me being ‘anti Western’, I am a ‘Europhile’ too. It’s sad thinking of the inevitable destruction of Western Europe. I already mourn it because I am sure it will happen. It’s too late for Western Europe. Hence I hardly pay attention to nationalists or conservatives in Western Europe anymore – their politicians have failed them miserably and will continue doing so because the infection is far too widespread. The only question left is when the crunch happens, will the native Western Europeans survive and rebuild Phoenix-like or be subsumed by the hordes of Muslims and Sub Saharan African swarms and totally lose their identities? That’s why, once the pandemic ends, I will resume visiting Europe to catch a glimpse of their dying civilizations before the end comes.

However, I am (cautiously) optimistic that Russia will be able to survive and withstand the onslaught. The next 1 or 2 decades Russia would see intense ‘attacks’ using Western soft power by a West that’s gone totally insane. That is as long as Putin holds and future Russian leaders continue a policy of relative independence.

As for China, I do not have any particular liking for Xi or the Communist Party. However, I think the majority (or if not, a significant segment) of Chinese (in China) are rediscovering Han culture, albeit oftentimes only superficially. Even I myself, who cannot read Chinese letters and not really that immersed in Han culture, am an ethnocentric. And even if these Chinese political elites have similar modes of thought like their Western globalist counterparts, they will soon be or are already rivals. The Chinese model is still too ethnocentric for the Western globalist. The Western globalist, in my opinion, was partially borned out of their experience with the American model. It’s like recreating the world in America’s image.

I don’t think analyses based on nations, cultures or religions are outdated. In fact the opposite is true, these utopian globalist ideals will unleash religious and ethnocultural clashes in their insane attempts to ‘homogenize’ humanity. These globalists underestimate the emotional component of humanity, the ones we have towards our own ethnic kin, to our own civilizations, and perhaps to a lesser degree in more secular countries, to religion. I think many in the West, especially those in middle and upper class, live in their own bubbles. That’s why they like all those globalist ideals of cultural equivalency, or the ‘non reality’ of ethnicity and all these gibberish. The rest of the world have always been race-aware and culture-aware. Where I live, a multiracial country, I am being discriminated based on my race. So, we are very race aware here. It’s just not reached critical mass in Western Europe to see this manifest, when non Western minorities reach significant numbers that they will be even more assertive to usurp control. Then we shall see the ethnic clashes, the religious clashes(by Islamofascists vs non Muslims ) happen in European soil…and prove the hubris of globalist ideals.

Then we shall see the ethnic clashes, the religious clashes(by Islamofascists vs non Muslims ) happen

This is only one possible scenario. This will happen in European countries where Islamic leaders are Koran-thumping morons. Where Islamic leaders have any brains, they would capitalize on the fact that the views of Muslims and a large majority of Europeans on gender are very similar. Both detest perverts of all stripes. So, smarter Islamic leaders would first unite with normal Europeans against libtard agenda and libtards themselves, and only after those abominations are eliminated, they would try pushing Islamic agenda as such. If they do it softly enough and make their Islamic rules less savage, they might avoid clashes altogether. Many Europeans would see any force that rids them of libtards as worthy of allying with.

The next 1 or 2 decades Russia would see intense ‘attacks’ using Western soft power by a West that’s gone totally insane.

It might take less than two decades. Libtards are ruining the countries they “conquered� pretty fast. Take the US. Not so long ago they’ve installed a senile puppet as president. Since then they managed to deliver two serious blows to the US military in less then two weeks. First, they’ve installed Raytheon board member as Sec Defense, even though his only “qualification� is politically correct skin color. Second, they removed restrictions on trannies serving in the military, which arguably would degrade the US military capabilities even more. So, the Empire and its bootlickers would be lucky to survive as a force to recon with another decade.

I agree that all Russia needs to do is isolate itself from zombies as much as possible and survive as a sovereign country. But Russia must not depend on Putin: ten years from now he’d be as old as corrupt senile Joe. I see the lack of an obvious successor as the gravest problem.

I think many in the West, especially those in middle and upper class, live in their own bubbles. That’s why they like all those globalist ideals of cultural equivalency, or the ‘non reality’ of ethnicity and all these gibberish.

That is partly true. Another important reason in status. Arguing that you are anti-racist/woke has become a performance that people do to show that they are virtuous. People are not thinking “is this idea true ?” but “will saying this show that I am less racist than everyone else ?”. This is why wokeness gets steadily crazier, it is an unending competition.

I am guessing that you are in Malaysia. Forgive me if you don’t want to answer.

I agree with much of what you wrote.

One minor detail though ; as AnonFromTn wrote above, Islamists might perhaps be intelligent enough to engage into a fight for traditional values along the more conservative Westerners. It is quite probable that at least a fraction of the Islamists (Sufis perhaps) will be intelligent enough to do this.

Another minor detail ; I believe that despite their obvious hubris, the people, who work towards advancing and deepening the globalization agenda, are rational. That is, they have a logic justifying their actions. It is important to keep in mind that despite all craziness and absurdity we witness around on daily basis, these people are not cartoonish vilains. It is important to at least try to understand why they are acting the way they do.

Navalny is an agent of a relentlessly hostile power, the USA, intent on breaking Russia up into numerous powerless statelets, as they did to the USSR under mega-Quisling Yeltsin. He must go down for treason, and bad acting.

The sanctions aid Russia. They push Russia to self-reliance, reciprocal sanctions on the Euro running-dogs hurt them and it opens Russian eyes to Western perfidy, they push Russia towards the largest economy on Earth, by far, China, and the treachery of the opportunists who would sell out their fellows for a few scraps from the Western Bosses’ High Table.

Every word, every punctuation mark, every inference in Western MSM reports concerning Russia is pure 100% totalitarian Groupthink bull-dust, peddled by presstitute liars and hypocrites whose popularity even in the West rivals that of paedophiles and real estate agents (with apologies to both groups).

Interesting.
A few issues for the scenario of Islamic leaders allying with Europeans who detest perverts :-

1. It’s possible only if these Islamic leaders also remove their quest to Islamize Europe. In my opinion, Islam is ‘religio-political’ to most of its religious clerics. These clerics ultimately not only want some political power but ALL political power. It’s totalitarian. Even if they initially ally with conservative non Muslim Europeans, they will turn on their allies in no time. In the end it is Muslim Ummah vs Kaffir(‘infidels’) + Murtads(ex-Muslims or Muslim ‘apostates’ ). Convert Dar al Harb Europe to Dar al Islam Europe. Ultimately the aim of most Islamic clerics, if they truly follow their faith :is total submission of any indigenous civilization to Islam, no ifs or buts. Dislike for sex perverts is only one aspect of Islam, and one that their leaders can compromise with libtards if libtards allow them access to infiltrate Western societies for proselytizing purposes and/ or ultimate control by demographic replacement.
To be fair about this point, will paste here Islam friendly and Islam unfriendly websites for your perusal.

2 websites which are ‘Islam friendly’

https://www.brown.edu/Departments/Joukowsky_Institute/courses/islamiccivilizations/7968.html#:~:text=Dar%20al-Islam%20designates%20a,lands%20ruled%20by%20non-believers.

https://www.learnreligions.com/dar-al-harb-vs-dar-al-islam-250224

An Islam unfriendly website
https://www.politicalislam.com/political-islam-totalitarian-doctrine/

2. To most Muslim clerics and laity, Western libtards and ‘Regressives’ (that’s what I call ” Progressives”) are already better political allies than conservative Europeans or Americans. These moralistic arguments by libtards for diversity /anti discrimination against minorities actually work in Islamists favour of insidious takeover . They can always play victim to get their way in the West enabled by those white libtard elites. They can get away with all kinds of things conservative whites can never get away with based on libtard sensitivity to ‘discrimination of the oppressed’. Moreover libtards will weaken traditional European values and morality, weaken national cohesion of the indigenous Europeans and when sufficiently weakened, ripe for total domination. Win win for power hungry politically aware Muslim clerics in the West. The libtard, to these type of Muslim clerics, is just means to an end. Once the achieve their goal of subjugation, they can discard these libtard easy peasy.

I think America’s downfall will not be as bad as Western Europe. It will still be a great power but more Latin Americanized, more corrupt, huge disparity between elites (who could be mostly whites and Jews) and the lower classes, a kind of Brazil or Latin America with nukes.

Agree with you on Russia and Putin. Hopefully Putin starts/has started grooming some successor without anyone (including the said successor) being aware of it.

*I live in a Muslim predominant country where racial supremacism of the majority race is government policy and Islam is used for political aims(mixed with racial supremacism). I really understand the meaning of ‘dhimmitude’ , living as one. Just so that everyone knows my background and why I am negative on Islam. I always think white libtards are living in a bubble and their moralism is detached from reality.

I replied AnonFromTN. Partly explains my point of view about Islam.
Yes, perhaps Sufi Muslims may become an ally but I think the other conservative Sunni factions are in ascendant, don’t think these ultra conservatives are fond of Sufis that much. I am sorry if it appeared that I painted Islam as ‘monolithic’ when it is not so.
The odds of majority conservative Muslim groups now in Western Europe forming political allies with conservative Europeans is remote, in my opinion.

I agree with you that these libtards/globalist elites are not cartoonist villains and irrational. I think, at least for those of them(perhaps their lay Apologists, some who also comment in this blog) who feel a strong moral obligation to promote ‘diversity’, ‘cultural equivalence’, ‘pro Islam’ ‘pro black/”people of color” etc, theirs is a reaction to the after affects of previous Western European colonial empires that brought disparate ethnic groups separated by centuries into proximity in their multiracial colonies and successor states. Especially white libtards, makes them feel good to disparage their own heritage and civilization, being so apologetic to blacks or even Muslims almost to the point of worship! My reaction is in the opposite direction of theirs, in my opinion. They have utopian ideals, thinking with their policies they can bend human nature for a one world so homogenized that there will be ‘peace’. To them, traditional European civilizations are an obstacle to their virtuous cause and thus should be deconstructed. Whereas I think that kind of Idealism is self destructive and counter productive. I have a negative view of humanity and despite being somewhat an idealist myself, shun any ‘over Idealism’ in politics. Race differences, cultural differences, some maybe even better than others are real. The fact that different ethnic groups and religious groups can have ulterior motives and subjugate others are real. Wars will never end because it’s innate within humanity. I do understand them somewhat but I wish to wake them up from unreachable dreams with their Idealisms. Sometimes I feel so exasperated explaining to them with the hope that they wake up and face reality.

I agree with you about this wokeness competition – it is predominant in the West but it sure has infected the youths and those more intellectually inclined in my own community. I think wokeness and its polar opposite, racial supremacism, is like 2 sides of the same coin, extreme reactions to living in multiracial societies in the aftermath of previous European colonialism.
This wokeness is an unbalanced , unfair and (mentally) unhealthy position that downplays anything good about European civilizations’ achievements while emphasizing only the negative and deleterious ones. At the same time, with their preferred ‘groups’ especially blacks, LBGTQ, Islamic world, woke people will somehow overrate these groups’ achievements /lack of it and downplay their negatives,or have apologetics for them.
If I tell them that whites/European civilizations developed science and mathematics beyond that of all other civilizations, including mine(the Chinese), I will be labeled a ‘white worshiper’ or they will try to ‘prove’ otherwise but this is the truth. Why must we deny the truth? That European classical music reach aesthetic pinnacles that other civilizations fail to achieve, that’s also true. There are some aspects of my own culture and civilization that did achieve some sophistication almost if not the same level as the Europeans did but we all ‘lost’ out in science and maths that brought us into this modern Era. That’s one of my pet peeve with wokeness. So fearful of being called racists, they rather deny the truth. Really sad.

I don’t believe anything I read either in Russian or Western MSM. They both lie. RT or CNN, both are propaganda tools. We live in a post-Truth world.

Not believing anything is foolishly childish and that part about post-truth world is just a worn-out cliché. Not all propaganda are equal, some propagandists have it easy because what they are propagandizing about is closer to the truth.

…and adequate in many ways that Yeltsin was inadequate as President – for example, in the level of his image management which is important for centrist leader and for restoring confidence in a country

At least some parts of that image management seem to be crumbling right now, e.g. Putin always liked to cultivate his fake image as some ascetic ruler devoid of luxuries and even recently was pretending to publicly lecture his own oligarchs not to flaunt the wealth (“need to remember in what kind of country we live”) – this is also why Navalny has been succesfully targeting the theme of Putins own “Yanukovich style” wealth vs. fake official image of modesty:

It’s sad thinking of the inevitable destruction of Western Europe. I already mourn it because I am sure it will happen. It’s too late for Western Europe.

I read a lot like that here yet I don’t see it that way. Europe and the West are in demographic, economic and cultural decline but they are at the same time standing on magnificent achievements and nothing has changed so radically as to already see the end coming. There is one apparently irreversible development here in western Europe, migration from North and Sub-Saharan Africa. All the other negative demographic developments and cultural trends are easliy reversible. As for the apparently irreversible trend, solutions will come about naturally.

Things do not exist as one, they exist dependently, something like Russianness does not exist by its own power, but only in contrast or relation to something else, things are not defined by their own nature, but by their dependent nature.

Dependent existence of phenomena is not equivalent with oneness of phenomena, nor it is with the nothingness of phenomena, both are impossible modes of existence, not in accordance with the logic and behaviour of our reality. Things do not exist permanently in some state because they are dependent, things do not annihilate, because there is no non-existence in our reality, nothing annihilates out of our reality, that something exists separately as itself or doesnt exist at all, are just illusions, partly created by our language, Wittgenstein understood this, but the problem goes much deeper than the language…

If Russianness has an existence in relation to other, it can always decay in comparison or improve, but theres nothing fixed in it, absence of fixed nature is not same as monism or non-existence, rivers do exist, as does wind or weather, sea or land, theres nothing fixed in them, they dont exist independently, but still they exist in a conventional sense and in dependent sense. There is no other form of existence than this. To understand the nature of phenomena is to understand the causes and conditions which have led their present state, when we correctly discern the causes which have led to their present state, we can also understand what we should input in reality or how we should act so that phenomena changes beneficially.

Yeltsin would probably not have intervened in Georgia/Donbass, gotten Crimea, improved the armed forces, etc.

We have no idea what he would have done. It’s interesting to know that he created (or helped create, at any rate) the entities in Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Transnistria. He was certainly not opposed to such course of action in principle.

https://vk.com/wall414721158_3151?w=wall414721158_3151

Here (In Russian) is a venomous (for Navalny’s gang) text from chief of Navalny’s staff in Saratov

North America has enormous advantages over other locations and a White population of around 220 million.

It’s also Patient Zero for infecting the rest of the world with poz. We need to make a stand for racial and cultural sovereignty here, if not continent-wide then at least in territory commensurate with our population.

It’s our homeland and our responsibility. And I’ve told expat-inclined Americans for years that we’d be doing European Whites a disservice in migrating to Europe, East or West, or Russia en masse. No one welcomes mass immigration and certainly not in the tens of millions, waves large enough to entirely displace native populations.

If anything, North America’s wide open spaces can and should make room for smaller White populations like South Africans or the increasingly pinched Aussies.

These days you have to go through information the way one should go through biohazard or radioactive waste. Better avoid it completely.

Navalny and his gang are just tools. The real question is what is happening today among the different clans in the Russian elite.How do the “Kremlin towers ” interact today among themselves and with their “Western partners “.

Aa written many times on AKs blog there currently cannot be a Color Revolution in Russia. But there might be (and I believe there are) ongoing tensions in the Russian elite.

Despite everything some naive people think, USSR dud not fall because Soviet people or Warsaw Pact people rebelling, but because some of the elite were working behind the scenes to deconstruct the Eastern Block. These elite factions were helping and abetting the social changes, including demonstrations etc.

Same with Putin’s RusFed, the elite are feeling a tremendous pressure and might simply find a way to better their own conditions by giving up on Putin and his closest circle. That would explain a lot in the present situation.

You and Coconuts are too Anglocentric, you really dont understand how some educated Russian guy, with a meagre salary, who works in some provincial school, or local administration, or library feels, living in his small apartment in a slowly crumbling Khrushchyovka, watching from telly how white people live, same thing is true with minor variations in other countries of developing world. Though the inferiority complex was worse in Russia about century ago, as we can know from the writings of the Russian Intelligentsia, who whole 19th century cried about Russian backwardness. Even Japanese had this inferiority complex, and still quite recently, till 80s at least.

I should add that if phenomena would exist as one, then they could not exist dependently. In a deeper analysis there can be no monistic existence, for the concept of one is born from its dependence with other concepts like many, or none, or two. It has no self existence, no Svabhava. Monism is nothing else than an apparition, a projection of our mind based on false understanding of reality.

Its grasping!

The question remains though – will the West collapse or will its system of open borders, “free markets” and mass cultural globalisation be adopted throughout the rest of the world as a recipe for success?

To be honest, these days I do not see the West collapsing. With new emergent technologies coming into play (Virtual reality, cold fusion, robots) along with the eventual establishment of a global welfare state such as UBI, the West can invite the entire world into their countries and still be successful.

Once other elites peg on to this mode of doing business (the wealthy few dominating the comfortable masses) they might be more than happy to shed whatever national sovereignity they have left and join the party. A Navalny dominated ‘elite’, the pro Western crowd in Iran, China etc I think would be more than happy to join in.

So you never know. The West might down right endure and rule the world.

Well the UBI being proposed are poverty line amounts for big cities, to live comfortably in big cities would require UBI thrice of what is proposed, and even gen z require big city amenities that you cannot find in the middle of nowhere.

I agree with what you wrote. But it begs the question: would this still be the West, as it was understood for the last 400 years or so, or would it be something entirely unprecedented in human history? Something that would have infected, transformed and outgrown the Western civilization?

You and Coconuts are too Anglocentric

Sorry, but I really meant that you English, as a White people, can never understand the experiences of the POC.

You are correct, hence the drastically lowered living standards and the concentration of the masses in the smart cities where their consumption can be monitored and their behavior controlled 24/7 by different surveillance approaches, including the ubiquitous smart contracts.

We agree that Europe is in economic, demographic and cultural decline.
I have to admit that I am in the order of the pessimist. Hopefully your optimism rings true for Europe. However….

1.)I agree that Europe stands on past glorious achievements, hence Western Europe’s apparent resilience despite the naysayers. Such strong foundations take time to rot to the level of quicksand. So many previously glorious civilizations are now archeological remnants or being rediscovered as part of a PhD dissertation. I am pretty sure their own population could not see the extinction of their civilization, neither their vassals when they were declining from their zenith.

2.) The reversibility of Europe’s cultural decline depends much on the mindset of the elites and populace. At the rate ‘wokeness’ and ethnocultural self-loathsomeness becomed mainstream and admirable + the hero worship of Sub Saharan Africans and Islam, I don’t see much ‘reversibility’.

I am of the opinion that Western Europe’s apparent resilience due to its current economic, scientific, technological, soft power and geopolitical (as ‘ally’ of the US) supremacy can sometimes lull us to complacency and underestimate the internal rot of cultural decline + ultimate political usurpation from migrant cultures from within.

The next 1 to 2 decades, I believe, shall give us a clearer picture if the optimist or the pessimist is indeed correct.

Thanks. Pertinent question indeed.
I think it ultimately boils down to human nature. We can never ‘cure’ envy, violence, lust for power etc in humanity. Let’s assume all the elites and pro globalist folks(middle and upper class) of all nations join in the bandwagon. There will always be inequality, there will always be winners and losers…. Perhaps even accentuate the clash between winners and losers. Western technological and economic supremacy can never eradicate the irrational and the emotional part of humanity. Even those non Western elites who are pro Western have their own ambitions, erstwhile ideological friends may later become bitter enemies. Even if a Navalny-like Russian president somehow came to be or China fell to a democratic takeover by Taiwan, they may not want to be perpetual vassals of Washington or Brussels. Anyway, I am doubtful of the ultimate success of a Western controlled globalized world. I believe there will be some kind of globalized world but that prediction of no more national sovereignty or borders might not come to pass.
Moreover, I think we tend to look only at scientific, technological and economic advancement as measurements of ‘success’. Everyone,say perhaps even the most ardent jihadist, envies all these success, doesn’t mean he will abandon his jihadi mindset. We tend to dismiss the ethnosociocultural, the human factor! Will, when Muslims and Sub Saharan Africans swell in numbers and proportion to population in Western Europe, not have ambition to usurp the political hegemony of indigenous elites? Would these disparate communities, once critical mass is achieved, due to communal resentments and their own elites’ ambition, tear Western European societies from within? Ethnic clashes that descend to communal violence? Or will there be assimilation but can that hybrid culture be better than indigenous European cultures, or worse?
If Western Europe society breaks down to sociocultural chaos, which I believe they ultimately will, the scientific and technological advancement stops right there. No nation would emulate civilizations in societal anarchy, however great their technological advancement were prior to that. My thoughts.

It would not be the West as we know it. Could it be a return to rebuild the (mythical?) Tower of Babel? A one new culture that unites all cultures? A third Adam(since its after Christ, the ‘second Adam’) as the ‘Ubermensch’, one ‘race’ as an admixture of all ‘races’ to end all ethnic identities into one? Maybe, that’s the real religion of the Western globalist, the ultimate Western ‘innovation’, ultimate sociocultural engineering to defy the Fates?
Sorry if I am letting my imagination grow wild a bit….

You might be onto something here. I think that the elite might well envision this demigod status for their offspring. Demigods living on a planet emptied from the annoying multitudes. A biosphere restored to its former glorious state, clean energy, robotisation and automation, genomic optimization, very long lifespan and no hoi polloi to spoil their picnic. It would take a few generations to get there, but these people probably plan on a longer time-frame than many nation-states.

I can say that sums up the feelings of a typical educated person from the developing world. Even the less educated too.
I think the Japanese (and other East Asians) still suffer from inferiority complex towards whites from the West(not just from the Anglosphere, but especially from the Anglosphere). It took some time for me to get cured from this inferiority complex, and perhaps I still have relapses!
In East Asia(and I believe it is so too in the Indian subcontinent – witnessed this during my long time ago visit to India) , a white guest, especially if he is from the West, tends to get preferential treatment compared to fellow Asians. Anything Western is kinda worshiped or if not, it’s envied, in Asia.
Even in choosing a partner, I know of some Asian ladies who would only date or marry a white Westerner, never any other group.
Incidentally that’s why Western propaganda and ‘wokeness’ gets traction in Asia too. The West is always the trendsetter because the average Asian person, especially the youth, from the developing world thinks anything from the West is ‘correct’.
Then there are those who do have inferiority-superiority complex… A love-hate feeling towards the West. Envious of Western success but if they had their way, they would subjugate the West. An average jihadist or a Chinese ultra nationalist /ultra chauvinist may be of this type.

I envisage a caste system, albeit an unofficial one of course which will reflect differences in average abilities between the groups. For all the propaganda about “Anyone with an X passport is X”, most people will still see the natives as the real owners of the country.

This is why you often see these over-the-top actions by ethnic activists to topple statues of old White men, it is to compensate for the reality that they will never be seen as natives, unless they can somehow manage to pull off a Khmer Rouge style “Year Zero” in which all historical memory is excised from the consciousness of the public and the different phenotypes of mankind’s races become as trivial as say, different hair and eyes colours are today within European ethnic groups (after all, a blond Englishman and a brown-haired Englishman will still see eachother as Englishmen), but even if this tremendous feat – which would require 100% control on information and likely also tearing away children from their parents to stop parents passing down certain information – were to be achieved, the inequalities would still likely remain and be noticeable.

I agree that it will most probably be a caste system for the transitional period. After that it would be a transhumanist utopia. Except that to get there, at least 50 to 75% of humankind must be culled on a time-frame of a few generations. And I also agree that control upon all aspects of human existence, including information, will be of paramount importance.

I mean most gen z want a comfortable standard of living, good food and amenities, and some form of social life, not staying at the Ritz Carlton, but with enough money to go to conventions, eat out at a good restaurant every now and then, and occasional overseas travel, 1200 is too few for that, and will not be defined as comfortable by any stretch of the imagination, any UBI to keep the masses happy with a comfortable standard of living in a 1st world country, in a big city like Toronto, the Bay area, or Vancouver will have to be a lot more than 1200, try 6000, 1200 will not even pay for the rent of a microstudio in Vancouver.

An interesting twist that Western paymasters did not anticipate: ‘if the police stops protecting these “protesters�, the people would beat the crap out of them�.

Original in Russian
https://rusvesna.su/news/1612160694

Those who don’t read Russian: you can translate it on the web. FYI, Yandex translate works better than Google translate.

I mean if people want UBI to replace useless drudgery jobs then 12000 a year will have little effect, since a lot of useless jobs actually pay better than 12000 a year.

The West is on a long term decline according to its own estimates.

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And others are aware of this. Hence the russian push for independence, the turkish push, the iranian confidence in the face of the US, etc.

As the West is declining, various countries elites are thinking about creating their own spheres of influence in a multipolar world.

So there will be attempts to create regional power blocks. Or pan-regions. A US block (North America), EU block, Russian block, Iranian (Shia) block, Turkisn block, Chinese block, Indian block, etc.

The West will be another USSR trying to take over the world by ideological means. Its culture will be deliberately engineered and terraformed towards this end. It will not be organic culture just as the USSR was not organic. Probably by the end of the century will (partly) implode, when demographics have changed sufficiently. Then you are looking at Brazil del Norte with nukes and a collapse of the EU. But this will happen very late in the 21st century.

Russia needs to stay away from this mess (it is targeted for a take over) and try to survive.

The 21st century will be a battle by a new “communism”, which this time is called liberalism, they will be building it in the West and via International Institutions, and where the “working class” is no longer the workers, but minorities, feminists and LGBT (Aka coalition of minorities), and conservative countries trying to stop the tide and keep their cultures from becoming part of the Borg.

In this sense – Asia and other non-western countries provide ideological strategic depth for Russia, as their MO is conservative and agrees with differences (it is multi-civilisational), unlike the West, which does not agree with difference and seeks to terraform the culture of everyone else – that is – the Liberal Wolrd Order (LWO).

Actually I am a pessimist in the sense that the apparently irreversible trend that I metioned earlier will be dealt with by large scale internal conflicts, civil wars actually, even genocide. I think this will start in Sweden and then it will spread. After the apparently irreversible trend had been reverted by these means, Europe will recover demographic vitality. I think this is going to happen during my lifetime.

So the battle is now about this: will Russia be able to create its own power block (Pan Region), and transfrom itself into independent pole in a multipolar world, with its own distinct culture and system. Or will it be taken over by the West via internal coup of the elites. The closing window for a western take over is the 2020 – 2030 time period.

The 2020s will be very turbulent years all over the world.

There won’t be ellimination of the annoying multitudes. They can always be used for something worth the pain of letting them exist. What will happen is that governing elites and their faithful followers will spatially segregate from the rest of the population. The elites and followers will live under goverment while the rest will live as anarchists. It will be shown that a large fraction of the population, say those at the bottom 4 quintiles of income, are better off not living under government because what they pay for it is not worth what they receive from it. Essentially the liberal State is the protector of private property. That will be the feel-good reason to let most people off the government hook to swim as free fish. So this is what my grandma told me yesterday. I think she is more onto something.

Someone who can not even read traditional Chinese characters in zhu yin (not that fake Communist pinyin or fake simplified Chinese) can not claim to be ethnocentric.

Well considering what happened to Japan from 1941 to 1945 vs. the Western powers, maybe the inferiority complex is justified? And maybe also a lesson to any Eastern powers who tries to challenge the West in its own game?

The fact that the WASP-led America had better leadership than the polyglot leadership that came after, despite the fact that the SAT of Harvard class rose from 530 to 690 from 1952 to 1959 is quite a powerful argument against pure IQism.

Exactly, hence the indispensable substantial decreases in living standards.

We need UBI to drive corporate sales growth, not to make Gen z feel better. We don’t want stock market price to sales ratio getting all crazy on us and reverting to trend the wrong way.

All that UBI will end up in Jeff Bezos pocket, but thats not a terrible thing considering the alternatives. Anyway, UBI will be set as a percentage target of the desired GDP growth rate. And you are quite correct – it may end up more that 12,000 USD per year. That amounts to only $4 trillion a year. That was US government spending in 2018. I can easily see US government spending $8 trillion or more per year in the 2030’s. Fitting $12,000 UBI will be trivial in this.

This is indeed a possibility. The problem is that the third world style anarchic crowds will damage the sacrosanct environment. Our benevolent overlords are too enamored with nature and are too keen on esthetic level to allow such outcome.

I don’t think growth in any format would still be encouraged. We need to protect the environment, Global Warming will end up melting the permafrost and liberating viruses even more dangerous than the corona-chan, sea levels will rise transforming Manhattan into Atlantis 2.0, sea turtles will choke on plastic drinking straws. (Sarc.)

People will only accept a drastically decreased standard of living if they are given no other choice. The situation must be terrible to push the crowds into the right direction. Stock market must crash, the mother of all bubbles must explode, the banks must go out of business. It must be an economic Armageddon for the masses to accept the benevolent help of the elites and forfeit their private property and human rights.

Drudgery is essential to any civilization. Basic maintenance requires large amounts of drudgery. Therefore UBI will not replace drudgery jobs. I know there are a lot of people here who seem to believe the hype that AI will solve this. All I can say is that people have been saying this for half a century, they were wrong then, and they have no more evidence for their claims now.

Affordable family formation is what is being destroyed. UBI, the gig economy, mass immigration, low workforce participation rates, urbanization, decreasing rates of home ownership, cost disease, increasing consumption of subscription based and/or digital goods that you don’t actually own, tertiary education requirements, and soon electric vehicles are all things which make basic reproduction less viable.

I was sent to a school that did not teach Chinese language and my parents never communicated to me in Chinese. But we identify ourselves as Chinese, and we differentiate ourselves from other ethnicities in my country as such and of late, I began to learn to understand the civilization and culture of my forefathers. So, I do consider myself ‘race and culture aware’, and in a loose way, ‘ethnocentric’. If you think I cannot be deemed remotely ‘ethnocentric’ by your criteria, or that my self proclamation is bogus or hogwash, it’s fine by me. I know who I am. My primary language is actually a version of English spoken in my country. Moreover, putonghua was not the original mother tongue of my ancestors who came from China. They spoke Minnan Hua and kejia Hua.

There is nothing ‘fake’ about Hanyu pinyin. It’s just another system vs Tongyong pinyin or Wade-Giles or Zhuyin.

And although I don’t like simplified Chinese characters, they are not ‘fake’ either. It’s part of the evolution of the written Chinese language, which of course would be influenced by politics in the country. If we totally discredit evolution of Chinese characters then even so called ‘traditional’ Chinese characters are ‘fake’. Indeed more ‘genuine’ would be Shang dynasty characters, not even Zhou dynasty letters and certainly not ‘traditional’ Chinese letters (= Regular script) which slowly evolved and were simplified from various Han dynasty scripts which were derived from the Seal Script of Qin dynasty which were derived from scripts in Qin state during the warring states Era of Zhou . Pick your choice which is ‘genuine’. Most /great majority of Chinese who speak and write Chinese in my country write in simplified characters and some are pro PRC and some are pro Taiwan. Here in my country, they are taught the simplified form in ‘Chinese schools’. Guess they are not ‘ethnocentric’ enough because they only use those ‘fake simplified Chinese’?

It must be an economic Armageddon for the masses to accept the benevolent help of the elites and forfeit their private property and human rights.

The average person will sell themselves into debt slavery for very little. A certain subset even sell themselves into slavery so they can inject harmful drugs. So no, there need not be an Armageddon for the masses to accept the benevolent help of the elites and forfeit their private property and human rights.

Maybe it is a powerful arguments against “pure IQism.” But it’s an even stronger argument for anti-Semitism.

The only problem with this vision is that political economy is all about status and it is inherently and specifically a very human thing. There is no such thing as political and social power without humans to lord over. Without annoying multitudes, those demigods are just regular Joes with nice mansions, and they will have to fight for status all over again between themselves. The worst job in the world is to be butler in paradise, especially if your previous job was to be Bill Gates or something.

Why? Because nobody else cares. Like when I ask my cat what he thinks about the recent World Economic Forum summit, he doesn’t even wake up. My cat has no respect for our global visionaries, and same logic applies to 99,999..% of other living and non living objects in the universe.

So unless our overlords somehow manage to convince deer and turtles to attend World Economic Forum meetings and admire their wisdom, they will need unwashed masses for that.

I refuse to believe that anyone has ever sincerely held the position that we should be ruled by Jews or Chineses because of their higher IQ (or any apologist variants thereof). It is only something I have ever seen Jews says.

Well if you look at Karlin’s data on brahmin IQ, arguably India’s ruling class has a higher IQ than China’s ruling class, and yet China is a lot better run than India, even if you discount the lower IQ castes. Looking at its population structure and geographic location (a group of islands on the fringe of Asia), arguably the Japanese ruling class have a slightly lower IQ than the Chinese ruling class, and yet you can argue that Japan is a better run place than China if you look at their histories.

Well if there is no economic growth people will start fleeing. And not just peons. Didn’t even Elon Musk relocate to Texas and out of California? People will put up with a lot, but only if they are comfortable. Generally, no growth is not ideal from the overlordship perspective.

I am talking about zhu yin or bopomofo, it is actually a far more accurate way of pronouncing Chinese words than the pinyin, but is a lot harder to learn for those who only grew up around Western alphabets. And the traditional Chinese characters more accurately represent the pictures the words portray of a pictographical writing system, like Egyptian hieroglyphics.

And for 128….reconstructed archaic Chinese spoken from Shang to maybe late Jin(the dynasty founded by Sima and not the Jurchen one)… Now perhaps this is GENUINE Chinese…

I agree but to call pinyin or simplified characters ‘fake’ is stretching it a bit.

You are probably right about that and I also agree with your comment about the push towards reproduction decrease. But I am thinking about the global middle class, people who really own something and who indeed drive the consumption and economic growth. If the idea is to lower their consumption and cull their numbers, then some calamity is required to make them abandon everything they worked for.

electric vehicles are all things which make basic reproduction less viable.

I also don’t get how the EVs play into reducing the reproduction. I agree that it allows for limiting the freedom of movement, but how does it decrease reproduction?

I presented your objection to my grandma. She said that won’t happen either. Once the vast majority on non-elite non-followers are free, they will consume little. They will have few vehicles, just basic industries such as small-scale agriculture, husbrandry, fishing and hunting/gathering (the release of large tracts of land from large-scale intensive agriculture will make nature flourish), no travelling by air, no navigation of large distances. Anarchists will have small-scale, basic industries while statepeople will be too few to make a dent on nature’s ways. I told her if there is no large-scale agriculture how will statepeople feed themselves inside their walled cities? She has an answer for that too.

It’s kinda a waste of time to engage 128 on this, since it’s not like he understands any brand of Chinese, much less the ability to judge anything about it.

Charles Murray is implying that is the case. He said that the prodiminance of Jews in the elite American universities proves that Jews are the chosen race.

Well you should thank your grandma for such an optimistic outlook that actually gives me some hope for the future. And I also have a couple of ideas about the way we can feed these statepeople you mentioned. But before we get there we must bring the population into balance with the biosphere. The biosphere can probably support a maximum of 2 billion pre-industrial people. Let’s say that the high-tech transhuman statepeople are already a billion, what should we do of the rest of the hairless bipedal apes?

I’m not sure which Brahmin data you are referring to. All I have seen on Unz is a reference to a 2003 New Immigration Survey which measured digit span among children. The sample size of Indians in that study was very small, so that particular data is useless. Even if it were a large sample, there would be no reason to assume Indian immigrants of any sub-group are representative of that sub-group in India. If I have missed some post from AK dealing with Brahmin IQ, I would be interested in knowing.

My personal suspicion is that Brahmin Indians aren’t very bright. If there are high IQ sub-groups in India, which there may well be, they are probably a very small percentage of the population.

Personally I think you’re overestimating the standard of living and lifestyle of working class British people in crumbling post-industrial cities outside London, but these people are not likely to be seen much on the TV, especially abroad, so Russians and others don’t see that side of Britain.

I prefer Middle Chinese, which was spoken till early Ming

Anyway I believe that if we are realists, Archaic Chinese is so ancient that its hard or almost impossible to reconstruct it properly. Also Chinese began to write phonetic Rime dictionaries and tables during the Sui dynasty, so we definitely have a very good basis for reconstructing how Middle Chinese sounded.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rime_table

The dÄ›ngyùnxué (等韻學; ‘study of classified rhymes’) was a more sophisticated analysis of the Qieyun pronunciations, initially developed by Chinese Buddhist monks who were studying Indian linguistics. A tantalizing glimpse of this tradition is offered by fragments from Dunhuang.

some parts of that image management seem to be crumblin

Unlike in America where politics is a tribal religion (partly as a result of the bipartisan system), fortunately something like 90% of Russian citizens find politics to be uncomfortable, and try to minimize negative energy thinking about it.

A president in Russia, needs to spam a bit only the television with pro-government messages, and that is enough to succeed in image-management for most people (unless you are Yeltsin, who was visibly inadequate even on carefully staged media appearances, while Putin is excellent for this).

Then if there is more nerdy subsection of politicized anti-government people, their views can be “lightly managed” by using semi-pseudoopposition, or semi-controlled opposition, media like Echo of Moscow.

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I think the internet makes the difficult minority of politicized people, more complicated to manage, and this is what we have been seeing in recent years.

In the last decade, there was some “light management” to boost pro-authorities messages onto the written internet, with for example a lot of fake blog accounts, and some IRL kremlinbots like Kristina Potupchik sending cash to established bloggers.

One of the problems of this attempt of “light interference” by the government in the internet, is that it seems to result in the sterility and loss of audience, in the internet sites and blogs that are purchased. For example, I remember when lenta.ru was interesting to read, when it was a website critical of the government. But after pro-government oligarch (Aleksandr Mamut) purchased, and it’s now become an completely “sterile” place, that I doubt many enjoy reading. It lost its raison d’être and is now a desolate website.

Another problem is the move of the politicized minority of anti-government people to videoblogging, which is hosted on platforms like YouTube, that can be in geopolitically hostile countries like the USA.

Livejournal could be bought (by Aleksandr Mamut) as the American netizens had stopped using it by then, but YouTube and Tiktok would be far too expensive by many times to buy even for someone like Mamut, who could buy the UK’s main bookshop.

pretending to publicly lecture his own oligarchs not to flaunt the wealth

Until around a decade ago, there was still staged television theatre events, where e.g. “Putin criticizes Deripaska, so that the latter will support his workers”.

But even such television theatre politics, shows awareness of public opinion, and the need to reduce the excess of oligarchs against the working class. That is, Putin’s team is aware of the public disapproval, and the need to balance the system. This is a form of political centrism and bipartisanship, which increases the political stability in Russia.

The fact Yeltsin didn’t even try an image-management narrative about “fighting the oligarchs”, is another example of the incompetence and political inadequacy, that reduced political stability in the country.

Well if there is no economic growth people will start fleeing.

If the project is truly global they would have nowhere to run to.

For your other comment about status, are you familiar with the Noon World by the Strugatsky brothers?

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%80_%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%BD%D1%8F

People can compete and achieve higher status in many different ways. In a world of technical cornucopia, wealth and power over other people might well become meaningless. But you could still flex your status by mining more asteroids than your neighbor, producing some incredible art or some deeper philosophical understanding. You can also flex the genomic optimization of your lineage and flash the bling of your latest cyborg enhancements.

You are probably right about that and I also agree with your comment about the push towards reproduction decrease. But I am thinking about the global middle class, people who really own something and who indeed drive the consumption and economic growth. If the idea is to lower their consumption and cull their numbers, then some calamity is required to make them abandon everything they worked for.

Indeed all of the things I described particularly hurt industrious people(middle class and also people who want to rise above their station) who want to raise families.

I’m not convinced the idea is to lower reproduction per se. I don’t think elites are particularly good long-term planners. More than that, I don’t think any of the stuff they are advocating actually works. Destroying the fertility of society’s most industrious people is shrinking the size of the elite’s pie.

I also don’t get how the EVs play into reducing the reproduction. I agree that it allows for limiting the freedom of movement, but how does it decrease reproduction?

Limiting freedom of movement also limits economic prospects. Large numbers of people drive large distances because it pays more. I also suspect electric cars(I don’t really have objections to electric scooters/motorbikes, which are somewhat practical in dense areas over small distances) will raise costs in other ways, but that is more speculative so I will leave that out.

“I was sent to a school that did not teach Chinese language and my parents never communicated to me in Chinese.”

Then you are not Chinese.

Charles Murray identifies as a libertarian. Tells you all you need to know about him.

But remember, in the Anglosphere transracialism is highly problematic, groups must be granted POC status by the fount of honours, which in this case is the American negro (paradigm of POCness) and the DiAngelo lady.

Thanks! Yes, Middle Chinese sure sounds better than ‘reconstructed archaic Chinese’.
I like the different southern ‘dialects’ (or rather, languages) which are still spoken here in my country. Where I come from, our “Chinese names”are “Romanized” based on the dialect group we come from unlike Taiwan or PRC. Thanks once again for the vids

Well I don’t know how to write Chinese but I do speak Mandarin. And I am ethnically Chinese. I am identified as a Chinese by myself and officially in my country my race is ‘Chinese’. All my ancestors are Chinese traceable from China. So, I am not Chinese still? I find it quite hilarious some of you fellows are disputing my ethnicity. Golly you guys know me even more than I do!
By the way in ancient China, 80 percent or more of the common folk were illiterate, they don’t know how to write the Chinese language but they speak the various Chinese dialects. By your definition they are not Chinese too. Gosh.

Can he become Chinese, if he so chooses?

Can you become Chinese, if you so choose?

Personally I think you should travel little more….

Though I must admit that only places where I have stayed in England are London and St Albans.

Still I cant believe that in poor areas of Birmingham or Leeds, things are economically as bad as in some regions of Russia, like in poor neighbourhoods of Irkutsk or Murmansk, or even like in EUs Eastern Europe. Ive never watched that British propaganda, Chernobyl tv series, but Ive been where it was filmed, in Visaginas Lithuania, lets just say that as a town it was not very inspiring.

One day I need to go Hebrides and drink whisky there and hear Gaelic songs. Though I dont like sea, there are lots of mountains and hills, which should make the scenery more balanced. Oh I just love mountain trekking, a true gentlemans sport. I hope that theres lots of mutton and offal, because I dont like to eat fish, except р�пушка and rarely some smoked lamprey. One reason among others why I will never go to Japan as a tourist.

Just beautiful. Check the lyrics.

Regarding total human biomass, have you seen the plot of human population growth since pre-historic times? It outlines a nice logistic curve, that have just passed the inflection point in the 60s of the past century.

So human population grows just like so many other species, bacteria in a Petri dish, fish in coastal waters, worms in muddy subsoil. This means that the current and future human population size is not a problem, it is a natural growth process and human will reach a natural plateau sometime this millenium (an asymptote as my friend the mathematician likes to say).

So the problem for nature is not human population size per se; the problem is the use of resources and technology by so many human bodies. Once humans discover segregation governance, as grandma predicts will happen, the biosphere can easily accomodate all as it does with rodents, squids, priapulids.

Im not Half Han, but by the PRCs official definition of Chinese or Zhongguo ren I am a Half Chinese! Im not joking.

It manages to sound even more hideous than modern Chinese (although I do find the writing system aesthetically pleasing).

By the PRCs official definition of Chinese or Zhongguo ren I am a 100% Chinese! Im not joking.

But that’s a very liberal understanding of the meaning. 😉

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But thankfully Ive been always been in contact with Tibetan monks, and to them Western society is just utterly silly, though they dont openly say it, its unbelievable how they are not astonished by it like poor деревен�кие люди of the Russia, or university graduates of India, and they dont feel any inferiority towards it, its all thanks to their powers of discernment and analysis. Most monks dont give much value to the modern western society, no matter if Sinhala, Burmese or Tibetan monk, maybe same is true with the Hindu holy men.

Discernment is one of the most important virtues there is. By closer analysis things are often not how they superficially look on the surface. First impression of something and true nature of something are almost always quite far from each other. Its unbelievable how much Nordic people use depression medication, and I believe that drug abuse is even worse in USA. But some of the happiest people I know are just humble village folks living in poor Asian countries. Yes they too have problems, there will be always problems and pain in life, but attitude is the key. Same with the sense of community, people are almost never lonely in the countryside of Asia, but how many lonely old people there are in the west, who will die alone, shame. But yes, that same progress is quickly catching China.

Still Mongols are one of the five races, not just one of the 56 recognised ethnic groups of PRC. Buryats are correctly classified as Mongols in China.

Deconstruction of Navalny tool have started.

https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/6520919.html

If you are talking about grain cereals I do not it is problematic to supply 10 billion people with 2500 calories a day, supplying beef is the problem.

Ok, I did not know you could speak Mandarin. In that case, I think you could qualify as ethnic Chinese not like some of the Unz readers who think they are German due to some long past Germany ancestry despite not knowing how to speak the language. Rare exceptions aside, language begets ethnicity.

You cannot just choose to become something if you have not satisfied a number of objective criteria like language or ancestry or culture or geography. Language being the most important, and in almost every case, the necessary criteria. For example, you cannot just choose to be Macedonian when you do not speak the language of the historical Macedonians (a northern Greek dialect which evolved into the modern language), have Slavic ancestry (a people who entered the approximate area almost 1000 years later) and largely do not live in the area of the historical Macedonians. If we separate identity from certain objective criteria then we have people wanting to be black when they are Jewish or wanting to be Aboriginal when they are Anglo-European either for some retarded sense of guilt, or, for purely for economic reasons.

So have they had this recording for 8 years?

I don’t think there will be much Western response to this, if any at all. Westerners see nothing wrong with their government financing opposition in other countries. In fact, they see other countries as authoritarian if they try to prevent it from happening. If there is a response they will just brush it off as a normal legal meeting

It will definitely be effective in Russia to smear Navalny. Vladimir Ashurkov is one of the top allies of Navalny so that’s almost as good as it gets. He basically asks for foreign government funding. It doesn’t really matter if he got it or not because he makes it clear he would take it. He also more or less says that he doesn’t care about corrupt individuals as long they are on his side. That doesn’t go well with the anti-corruption narrative.

You cannot just choose to be Greek when you do not speak the language of the historical Greeks and have Turkish ancestry (a people who entered the approximate area almost 1000 years later).

You could nevertheless choose to be Jew, a people who started inter-cucking in Athens three thousand years ago, and still does.

We wuz Ptolemaic kungz. We is bankrupt every other year yet brand-conscious and shiet.

Isn’t “Greece” a cheaper alternative to Mamaia and Sochi?

Are plastic paddys really Irish, or just fake Irish?

“outdeck” is great!

If I had to guess, Western culture is so appealing, partly because of material wealth, but mostly because of the promise of individualistic freedom, or the appeal of breaking free of traditional constraints on social behavior in traditional collectivistic cultures like in East Asia, it even Eastern Europe, basically people comply with the dictates of those collectivistic cultures, but sometimes, or maybe a lot of times, feel that their traditional cultures of stifling of individual desires, and do not allow them to be what they want to be.

Off course there will not be Western response. But it will be useful to troll Western narrative.

My Russian friend’s photos of his St. Petersburg apartment and dacha look pretty poor. I have to admit, it was my first view inside an actual dacha, and it looked much less inviting than what I had imagined. However, I have also traveled in Mongolia. Ulaanbaatar is Soviet-built and feels poor but also quite comfortable in a way. I think the West has progressed to the point that their “economically good” is not adding much to life anymore. My father-in-law recently bought a new car with a radio that plays videos while you’re driving. Why? And why a new car at 70?

The thing that really makes Mongolia feel poor is that you’re constrained in your choice of foodstuffs. Their beer and vodka is pretty good quality, and you can get western sweets, but the variety of vegetables and other basic foods is not there. But after society reaches the point of starting to offer most people global ethnic foods in addition to year-round staple foods, you’re getting close to maxing out substantial QOL improvements.

The traditional complaint about people who are unhappy with traditional collectivistic cultures is how smothering such cultures can be.

biosphere can easily accomodate all

I don’t think so. Pre-industrial population levels were much lower. Even lower if we look at the hunter-gatherer tribes. Or is there something I m missing that you grandma could explain?

BTW population in the late Roman Empire was around 50 – 60 million and it fell drastically in the early dark ages. The population of the whole world in the time of Jesus Christ was probably around 200 million people.

🙂

Until a few decades ago, I doubt that the middle or working class in places like New Zealand could have access to things like pineapples or citrus fruits due to transportation costs. Could you buy bananas or Chinese/Japanese/Korean foodstuffs from a German grocery store in 1980?

As I wrote a couple of times already, Maria Pevchikh is most probably a British Intelligence operative.

Russia can push for a response. The West is pushing for Navalny’s release so I expect Russia to ask for an explanation. The answer will probably be that it’s a completely normal and legal conversation. But it still looks very bad. It’s hard to deny that he asks for funding. Then he basically discusses strategy how to organize the political opposition. But what’s even worse is that he asks for information from “British agencies”. Trying to make that look innocuous is difficult.

It’s surprising that the video was released first now. The fact that they’ve kept it secret this long means they might have even more. I suspect there is panic going on in the Navalny gang.

Still I cant believe that in poor areas of Birmingham or Leeds, things are economically as bad as in some regions of Russia, like in poor neighbourhoods of Irkutsk or Murmansk, or even like in EUs Eastern Europe. Ive never watched that British propaganda, Chernobyl tv series, but Ive been where it was filmed, in Visaginas Lithuania, lets just say that as a town it was not very inspiring.

I agree they are not as economically bad as places I have seen in Belarus, Lithuania, Moldova or Ukraine, but the poorer areas of those two English cities provide examples of reasons which are not directly economic (crime, schools) but which in certain ways make them worse than better off post-Soviet cities, especially for raising children.

My wife has a flat in one of the poorest areas in Minsk (I didn’t know that at the time), we were living there when I was working in Belarus and it was pretty good, safe, things were usually well maintained. I mainly got to know those kinds of Soviet era flats, the Krushchev type, the Stalin ones but now there are a lot of recently built ones and these can be really nice by Western standards. You could go to church on Sunday and it would be full, with young people as well, which is not something that is as common in the UK. One of the issues with cities in the UK is not economic but more spiritual, apart from the colourful and vibrant populations they are becoming like the abode of Nietzsche’s Last Man.

It’s worth pointing out that is worse than everything Russiagate produced.

Are plastic paddys really Irish, or just fake Irish?

Aren’t they a bit fake by definition? You need to count up how many uncle Pakis and uncle Paddys you have to see how plastic you are, or how many female relatives called things like Assumpta and Mary.

Well the people in the 50s pushing the Ivy Leagues to open up their enrollment to non-WASPs and more Jews and white ethnics and accept on the basis of SATs are libetarian IQists. Plus there was a lot of resentment that much of the power structure until the late 50s was at the hands of a group of people with a very narrow range of ancestry (basically Northern European Protestants), and there was the thought that a more inclusive and diverse elite more make the US be more well run, but in fact the opposite happened. Although in WW2 and WW1, American hesitance to get involved in Europe may have been to the very large German population in the US.

Why her in particular? I don’t know much about Navalny’s friends.

Navalny suffered an attack of acute pancreatitis (hence the yelling in agony as reported by fellow passengers)exacerbated by booze-his blood alcohol was 0.2 at the Omsk hospital. He is a diabetic on Metformin and other meds including barbies, and must have had a booze-up the night before, not recommended for those with pancreatitis. At Omsk no sign of the dreaded ‘Novichok’. The Berlin hospital bloods were also released and showed deranged liver function, no doubt from his chronic alcoholism. The only ‘evidence’ of ‘Novichok’ was provided by German and Swedish ‘intelligence’, who won’t publish their findings, of course. Navalny is fascist, racist, nationalist scum like most of the USA’s stooges over the years. He even sent an e-mail in 2007 abusing some critic as a ‘faggot kike’. Oops-but he was probably drunk.

So-called white guilt is basically Protestant Northern European American guilt over what fellow Germans did to Jews in the Holocaust that was adopted by the rest of the white population, because Protestant Northern European Americans held much of the institutions of power in the US until the 50s.

Yes, that and India, these demographic changes will leave their mark after hundreds of years, it seems quite clear these exact sort of demographic changes (partially due to Arab-Bedouin primitives taking over the place, but mostly via slavery, so another ‘own-goal’) is what turned the Middle-East into a technological desert, after leading the Caucasoid/’white’ world for thousands of years. Most of the other problems in Europe are easily reversible simply by an improvement in government.

Russia can push, pull, ask, or they can just watch the snow fall. It makes no difference. We are looking at this through a rationality prism, I admit I do that. This is not rational. The world is not a rational place, so appealing to human rationality is besides the point.

West is in a full irrational fighting mode; their words don’t mean what they say they mean, and they don’t mean any of it anyway. It is who-whom, there is no rationality.

When dealing with an irrational situation – the Analny guy with his poisons, screaming teenage supporters and appeals to foreign sponsors – trying to argue rationally is a waste of time. My grandma used to say “with stupid people you have to also go stupid“. If this is a who-whom fight, why be rational? Why observe any rules? Let’s see who has more power on the ground in the moment and let it play out. The appeals to Western rationality are infantile. West might regain rationality once the gig is up, they always do. So what? More nasty editorials and god forbid tweets? Why does that matter?

partially due to Arab-Bedouin primitives taking over the place, but mostly via slavery, so another ‘own-goal’

I assume you mean slavery of blacks by Arabs? If so, didn’t the Arabs castrate all their slaves?

Anyway, inbreeding seems to be a more likely explanation of the decline of the human capital in the Islamic World.

Australia is mainly under environmental pressures, its about 15 points more demographically favorable than the US, and its minorities aren’t as troublesome. While not as religious as the US, its more religious than the UK.

That said, I’m even skeptical of outmigration from blue states. There is something to be said for concentration, but conservatives never have set about trying to create an ethnic enclave, and often try to subvert those remaining.

DC has about 20,000 Republicans, which discounting socially conservative native blacks, is still enough to concentrate into a single enclave and elect one person to the city council.

The idea isn’t far fetched, its the same thing that gays have done. But all the money spent by Conservative Inc hasn’t figured this out.

Concentration into an enclave would solve one of Con Inc’s biggest problems, cuckoldry to stay in the good graces of liberal neighbors.

Is there any evidence to prove the conservatives are more individualistic than liberals?

Her profile fits the job.

https://es-la.facebook.com/AlphaSpecnaz/posts/%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0-%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B2%D1%87%D0%B8%D1%85-%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82-%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9-%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%BA%D0%B8-%D0%BCi6-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BA%D1%80%D1%8B%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%B5-%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%88%D0%B5-%D1%84%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2-%D1%83%D0%BA/3201400433321494/

(Sorry it’s in Russian)

Navalny is fascist, racist, nationalist /
/ He even sent an e-mail in 2007 abusing some critic as a ‘faggot kike’

Wait, you make him look like a nice guy…

😉

Navalny is fascist, racist, nationalist scum like most of the USA’s stooges over the years.

Navalny is scum, first and foremost. The rest are footnotes.

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I assume you mean slavery of blacks by Arabs? If so, didn’t the Arabs castrate all their slaves?

Not the female ones!

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

So most Irish of Ireland are not Irish, because they dont speak Irish, same with the Welsh who dont speak Welsh? Or Jews who dont speak Hebrew, but English are more Anglos or Americans than Jews?

Its funny that there was a time when most Jews spoke Aramaic, and Hebrew was just liturgical language, even Christs native language was Aramaic, and Aramaic is just a different name for Syriac or Syrian language, therefore ancient Jews and Christ were not Jews but Syrians. Also in your logic all French speaking Arabs and Africans, who have lost their native tongue are French, but hey your logic is the same logic as the French governments. Funnily Turkish speaking Karamanlides were thought to be Greeks because of their faith, and they all were evacuated from Cappadocia and transferred to Greek Macedonia after the war between Turks and Greeks in the 20s.

Minsk is one of the best and cleanest places in the former Soviet Union, as is Moscow, Kiev and St Petersburg, they are the best what the East has offer, there are much worse places in Russia and Ukraine, which are full of HIV and narcotics problems. Also Belarussians and West Ukrainians are much more religious than people from Ukraines or Russias Rust Belt.

Stalinovkas are good. Its true that common people are slightly more spiritually minded in the East, but not average Muscovites, they are quite materialist and obnoxious, much more than common people of the Western Europe. All people who lack (proper) religion or philosophy – are the Last Men of the history.

Europa Europa’s perspective usually makes me think of the phrase: “first world problems”.

He was writing previously about how dangerous a British city called Birmingham is. While Birmingham is dangerous relative to the United Kingdom average, it is not dangerous by international levels. After reading such posts, I looked at the data. The most dangerous and violent English city has a murder rate 4 times lower than where my parents safely and happily live, without complaining.

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When English people complain about low living standards and economic development in their country, or high levels of violence, it’s usually because they are comparing in their mind to countries like Netherlands, Denmark and Sweden.

It’s not just that United Kingdom’s economic development is lower than Netherlands or Denmark, but also that it’s significantly a more unequally distributed economy.

UK has much more inequality between classes and regions, than countries like Netherlands.

However, ignoring its location near to elite countries like Netherlands – by any international standards, UK can be described as unusually wealthy, safe, etc.

poor areas of Birmingham or Leeds, things are economically as bad as in some regions

I agree. What they call “poor working class people” in the UK, would be categorized by most of us as middle class in Russia or Ukraine, in terms of standard of living, housing, income and lifestyle.

That’s not to say, there is not a working class people in the Great Britain – but this is a cultural working class people; while in terms of living standards, most of the English working class people, are at similar material levels as many middle class people internationally.

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This documentary below on YouTube seems to me such an example of how the perspective of British has become after 2-3 generations of high economic development (I assume Great Britain reached a universal first world level by around 1970 or 1980).

Today, UK television produces documentaries about “tragic life of poorest working class children that live in mass apartment buildings”.

While it it is sad that poor children in the UK don’t live in the spacious houses – from an international perspective, they still have modern housing, with advanced infrastructure, and access to excellent public services (hi-tech hospitals, etc).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5ijCAsv384.

Clearly, the Kremlin has had enough with this character, patience run out, so after returning from Germany they went all in to put him in prison. That’s why they released the tape at this time. The Germans played their card and the Kremlin replied by taking the bet and playing its cards.

I assume you mean slavery of blacks by Arabs? If so, didn’t the Arabs castrate all their slaves?

The answer is “probably not”, judging from the large number of totally black, Sub-Saharan people that are abundant in the Arab world and that have lived there for many generations, many occupying high positions in gov’t, academia, business.

I don’t think so. Pre-industrial population levels were much lower. Even lower if we look at the hunter-gatherer tribes. Or is there something I m missing that you grandma could explain?

Yes, you are missing something but grandma is taking a nap right now, can’t disturb her (if she was awake I’d not be posting stuff here). Anyways, she thinks that the fact that our biomass was lower in the past, as you point out, does not mean that that was the maximum human biomass that nature can support. All animal population start low and then grow or go extinct. When they don’t go extinct they grow to the maximum size nature can support and then they stay put at that natural maximum size or fluctuate around that size, until conditions change radically. Humans have not yet reached that natural maximum. If most human bodies stopped using tech, total human biomass would still grow to the maximum size only with much less environmental impact.

I whole heartedly agree with you, but humans have often propensity to think that grass is greener on the other side or – хорошо там, где наÑ� нет.

Still if we take in account how quickly Britain, or actually England is demographically transforming, I would not be so optimistic about the future of the English nation. White British and Irish were already just 47% of population of London in 2011. In 80s London was almost completely English city. Russias demographic and ethnic trends are not anywhere comparable to the change that USA, UK and France are undergoing. Also I would enjoy more living in average neighbourhood in Minsk than in Rosengård Malmö, which is full of semi ghettoised Muslims.

Somehow I did not properly conclude my Dharmic musings about the true nature of things. So here it will be.

Things nature/quality is defined by its relation to something else, therefore thing can not be anything in itself, because things do not exist in vacuum, but in relation with something else, which is same as dependently. This is the major reason why western philosophy has mostly failed us, and how it ripped the true meaning out from the existence, and gave birth to the materialistic nihilism, there is no value or truth in things itself, if we try to find such value, we find nothing.

First westerners believed that everything existed in relation to God. God gave value to everything, for all perceivable was his creation, and reflection of his creative principle or intellect, but then westerners took God away, and started to believe in things itself, and fell into nihilism after finding that there are no moral or deeper truths in the things itself.

The solution to that problem is to understand that things are defined by their relation, not by their own self being, their self being is temporary and illusory. How something looks or feels is as much dependent the subject as the object, both dont have independent existence, what else our mind is than a collection of sensory experiences, or momentary objects of the mind? You cant find such qualities as beauty, ugliness, harshness, colour, softness, sweetness, darkness in the things in itself, nor you can find such things in the mind itself, for our mind could not exist without mental objects, no sensing of something – no mind.

All phenomenas are born by their relation to something else, that something seems to be something is just an effect of their relative nature, not the cause, we should not be like idiots trying to find where rainbow ends.

The thing’s value is ONLY found in its relation to something else.

Must be from Malaysia I guess…for sure you will always feel Chinese in a Muslim pressure-cooker environment like that. Though you could do worse than Bumiputras – Muslim ethnic groups in countries like Iraq or Afghanistan are a lot more tribal/clan-based, whereas from what I understand, there are even a good number of young urban Malays who don’t vote for BN and are relatively moderate.

“Language being the most important, and in almost every case, the necessary criteria ”

Do you have a problem with comprehension?

Personally, I think Irish identity is a bit fake. Unless everyday usage of Gaelic exceeds 50% (currently below 2%) then they are just a cute fun-loving type of Englishman.

what about those Greek basketball player brothers with Nigerian parents (I could google their names but you know the ones I mean of course). Are they Hellenised enough to be Greek with your criteria?

I very much noticed your “in almost every case,” but its really not “in almost every case.” Maybe in half of cases, maybe in majority of cases, but not in almost every case. Your line of thought is very similar to French liberalism. If they speak French – they are French, or at least in almost every case. Nor is language always most important case, only few Gypsies speak their own tongue, still they are Gypsies.

Actually Republic of Turkey would agree with you.

Oh and Latin Americans are then mostly Spanish and Portuguese.

Sorry, I do not know of any Greek basketball players with Nigerian parents. I am aware of some Nigerian brothers masquerading as Hellenes.

Perhaps you should tell your grandma that the quantity of biomass produced by the biosphere is mainly dependent on the energy provided by the sun, while also influenced by the climate.

Therefore, there is a natural limitation on the quantity of living matter that the biosphere can sustain at any given latitude. The biomass is converted and the energy transferred through the trophic networks from the microorganisms to the apex predators such as man. The apex predators are always few in numbers. The number of northern neolithic hunter gatherers was similar to the number of wolves and was in direct competition with them for their share of large game.

The agriculture has allowed to feed more people, but only where the climate was appropriate. Iron age Fenno-Scandia was scantily populated, as was pre-Columbian Canada. Sometimes, better climate conditions allowed to bring more children to the adult age, but good arable land has always been in short supply. People had to migrate from Fenno-Scandia or kill and replace the neighboring tribes in Canada to keep the ratio of people to arable land constant.

The return to the land and pre-industrial agriculture is only possible if we drastically cull human crowds. Which will happen automatically, as soon as modern health-care and nanny state are no longer available to those living outside the smart-cities. Just cut the logistics and the country people won’t have a multitude of goods they receive from industrial centers. Industrial centers in China that is, they will have less clothing, no tools, no more chemical fertilizer, no more spare parts for their farming machinery and no more gasoline, no more light bulbs, no more electricity.

Perhaps around 20% would survive on their own (through cannibalism ?). The biosphere will be cleansed of the obnoxious hairless bipedal apes. Greta Thunberg will be greatly pleased…

I did mention ancestry, culture and geography. A Moroccan living in Lyon might know French but he would not satisfy the other criteria.

Charles Murray is implying that is the case. He said that the prodiminance of Jews in the elite American universities proves that Jews are the chosen race.

Charles Murray thought that he could escape Jewish censure for his HBD observations by putting Jews at the top of the pyramid, didn’t matter an Iota to them they kicked him to the curb, the Jews have a very justifiable fear of white nationalism.

What do you think of Neoplatonic concepts of independent existence in a world of ideas?

Okay okay, we were both half right or right in some way.

On the other hand, my very traditional grandmother- in-law taught her granddaughters not to learn too much or it would steal the light of wonder from their eyes.

There’s some beauty in that thought.

I have read some books by Platon, but Ive never read one book by Plotinus or some other Neoplatonist, so I cant surely say, but in my opinion independently existing world of ideas is grasping, thinking that things have an ultimate nature, its one of the reasons why Western thought has fallen in nihilism, because how the hell something like an apple or a dog can have a truly and permanently existing idea behind them? Something like love or beauty, or animals form, is born from interaction, in other words from their dependent nature.

Now Im walking into unknown, Buddhism categorically denies the independent existence of things, but Buddhism could in theory accept World of Ideas, if it would exist in dependence with other worlds and beings.

Buddha taught that there is the Realm of Forms, Rupadhatu, but I dont know if its same as Platonist Realm of Ideas, possibly, but Platon and Platonists believed that its the ultimate truth in itself, which would be subtle form of grasping, in other words better way of grasping than being attached on material forms, still such grasping does not release one from the Samsaric cycle.

I dont know much about Buddhist Form Realms, just that the sensory forms there are very subtle, and that beings dont have gender there, also they dont reproduce sexually.

https://studybuddhism.com/en/glossary/form-realm

Heureux sont les pauvres en esprit…

An old Sufi once told me: “If you learn too much, you may die of anger”. It rhymes in the Maghrebi dialect.

Plotinus

Highly important; Plotinus, Porphyry and Iamblichus were probably the highest point of intellectual evolution of the Antique Paganism.

The pinacle, before it all crumbled down.

This is not rational.

I think you have a point. Imperial elites are no longer rational. One can understand a rational desire to have an obedient puppet in the WH: senile half-corpse (or maybe a corpse, who knows) won’t question orders given. Bit when you are an elite, why undermine the country whose elite you are? Yet they are damaging the Empire more than its enemies could even dream of. Within less then two weeks two major blows were delivered to the US military. First, a Raytheon board member whose only qualification is politically correct skin color is made Sec Defense. Next, likely even more damaging, restrictions on trannies serving in the military were lifted. A blow was also delivered to the US dollar: yet more trillions were added to the Ponzi scheme of ballooning debt. The situation was precarious even before: there are a lot more sellers than buyers of the US treasuries. In fact, Fed issues its debt obligations and buys them itself, so only a total moron won’t smell a rat.

Bottom line, the rationality is out of the window. The world must deal with the imperial elites the way people deal with crazies: don’t argue with them, just bind them up, lock them up, and make sure they can’t escape.

Hilarious idea that conjouring tricks and mystic drivel were the height of anything intellectual. These charlatans are even more blameworthy because they claimed the name of Plato.

conjouring tricks and mystic drivel

It was way more than that. And it had a lasting imfluence on the evolution of Christian thought (through pseudo-Dionysius among others). In fact, I hardly understand your hostility.

Can’t really argue with all that, but it’s not only just the slipping control of image management channels of all kinds that makes problems and discontent more visible – there is also great disconnect of some made images and reality, which is more than easy to exploit.

I mean you really can’t that much discredit half naked Putin riding on the horse, cause he never was obese couch potato like NK leader or a person sitting in a wheelchair like FDR circa 1944, but you can easily discredit those fake images of modesty in small apartment room with Soviet furniture by showing Putin having spacious palace in reality.

btw, Medvedev, who also received more than enough Navalny investigations, would have been little less vulnerable in some aspects, cause he did not go into such ridiculous masquerading as “an ordinary citizen” and did not bother when showing his real spacious living places with expensive audio gear:

haha well I quite agree, but from the brief snapshot of your comments which I could read, your tying of language to ethnicity appeared to give our Nigerian friends a Hellenic pass

OT

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/02/sputnik-v-vaccine-has-916-efficacy-against-symptomatic-covid-russian-trial-suggests

Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine has 91.6% efficacy against symptomatic coronavirus, interim trial results have suggested.

The preliminary findings are based on analysis of data from more than 20,000, mostly white, adults, three-quarters of whom received the vaccine. The remainder received a placebo.

No serious adverse events were deemed to be associated with vaccination, and most reported adverse events were mild, including flu-like symptoms, pain at the injection site and weakness or low energy, researchers wrote in the journal The Lancet.

This is the fourth vaccine — after from those made by Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna and AstraZeneca/Oxford — for which phase 3 trial data has been published in a peer-reviewed medical journal.

The vaccine, which is backed by the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), is administered in two injections 21 days apart. In the 21 days after the first dose, there were 16 cases of Covid-19 in the 14,964 people (0.1%) in the vaccine group, and 62 cases of the disease in the 4,902 individuals (1.3%) in the placebo group.

You should post that in the latest Open Thread instead.

The traitorous clown got his right deserts: remaining 3.5 years of Navalny probation were changed to 3.5 years in jail.

Just like i predicted: Navalny gets 3,5 years in jail.

https://www.unz.com/akarlin/habbening-russia-protests-2021/#comment-4425726

Its not over yet, after Navalny gets jailed for several years (i’m 90 % sure of that) then things will get interesting. This will trigger joint US/EU sanctions and more protests on the streets. His wife will probably take over (Belarus Scenario). Nord Stream 2 could be cancelled as well, Gazprom is already hinting about that possibility. We will see.

The only question is whether Putin stays in power after 2024 or not. My take was that he will finish his mandate by 2024, but someone else will be the candidate of United Russia for President after 2024. Of course, i could be wrong about it. We will see.

oh forgot to say, feck off with your ‘troll’ button you fragile Greek

“You should post that in the latest Open Thread instead”

There wasn’t one when I posted it!

So human population grows just like so many other species, bacteria in a Petri dish, fish in coastal waters, worms in muddy subsoil.

Animals experience peaks and falls to population, so it’s not like it’s a steady point which is reached. This is especially true of predators, which swing wildly in a rough pendulum with their primary prey animals.

Humans in such an existence would probably turn back to warfare and concentration of power.

The only question is whether Putin stays in power after 2024 or not.

That’s the most important question of all. Russia needs a good president, it deserves a good president, but I don’t see anyone clearly qualified who is significantly (by 20 years or more) younger than Putin. We’ll see.

BTW, the issue of traitorous clown Navalny is totally irrelevant with respect to this question. His ilk cannot be trusted to run a McDonalds franchise, let alone a country like Russia.

Greta immediately writes this. LOL.

So in the year 2021 Europe chooses to meet its energy demand by building a pipeline to transport more fossil fuels from the ones responsible for this. Shameful on so many levels. #FreeNavalny https://t.co/bJ2lur7Uob

— Greta Thunberg (@GretaThunberg) February 2, 2021