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Still alive and partially active. Espresso Addict (talk) 11:58, 3 November 2024 (UTC) [reply]


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Hello. I hope this is not too odd, as it is about something that happened a while ago and you may not remember. But it has been on my mind and it feels important to message you.

Last year in September, when I was early in doing AfC reviews, you sent me a message that said “Please stop reviewing academics at AfC, you clearly have no idea how to apply the guidelines”. You were correct in calling me out on not following guidelines for academics thoroughly, and I am thankful for that. But even though it was not overly aggressive, the attack on my abilities rather than my edits made me feel like I was not “good enough” to contribute to Wikipedia. I stopped editing for a few months after the message. Now I edit again, but I am hesitant to do AfC work and I get nervous when I have a notification on Wikipedia.

I understand that to someone with as experience as you, such a message might not have the same impact. But for a less experienced editor, the tone of such feedback is significant.

I see all the things you contribute and I want to be clear that I do not think badly of you at all, I am thankful for all that you do. But I wanted to share how that interaction affected me, and ask for more kindness and patience with other editors in the future.

I hope this comes as across as intended. Thank you for taking the time to read my message and I hope you have some great coffee this week. -- NotCharizard 🗨 02:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Notcharizard -- Thanks for having the courage to come to my talk page to raise this issue. My message was indeed overly abrupt -- I'm sorry it came over as aggressive, and even more sorry that it caused you to have to take a wikibreak. I actually do recall the whole Learned Society of Wales brouhaha, and in my defence, I was deeply annoyed at the notion (not yours) that someone volunteering for a learned society should be treated as a paid editor and have their contributions drummed off the 'pedia, and I fear that you got caught in the crossfire.
That said, Hywel R. Thomas in particular is extremely obviously notable; to someone versed in British academia it felt a bit like rejecting a draft on Donald Trump that stated he had been the President of the United States, as "not notable". There is a need to balance the feelings of the reviewer with the feelings of the creator, and in the case of a biography of a living person, the article subject.
To be honest, I've been reflecting on your message since I received it -- I don't have difficulty with being patient & AGFing like mad with new editors who are attempting to negotiate their earliest edits here, but I perhaps do have a history of being grumpy with editors who work in AfC, NPP and the various deletion processes when they make clear mistakes, because their good-faith but incorrect declines/deletion requests can be very offputting for the new editors who receive them. Anyway, food for thought. I will try to bear your words in mind going forwards, and I am genuinely glad that you are back editing now. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 04:40, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:German198

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User Talk:German198 has recently begun editing Super Sentai-adjacent articles. On one hand, they've been cutting some probably arbitrary milestones. On the other hand, they are scrubbing any mention of its adaptation into Power Rangers, calling such references "[unnecessary sentences]" or "false information". Said "false information" is reliably sourced.

When I pressed them on their reasoning, they said they did it because the show "is a shameless plagiarism and a rip off". (Never mind that the showmakers actually bought the rights to use the Sentai footage). I feel like I'm getting nowhere talking to them. So, what now? CRBoyer 05:10, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Crboyer -- I'm not really a good person to ask on this; I don't work on user conduct (just deletion) and I know nothing whatever about Super Sentai. German198 appears very new and some of the content they've been removing appears unsourced. Also usually editors are given more latitude on the civility front on their own user talk pages, and here they are addressing the show rather than an editor. I'll drop them a note about gaining consensus, but if this keeps on, I suggest that you take it to one of the noticeboards. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 05:25, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red December 2024

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Thanks for your contributions at WP:CSD. Maliner (talk) 17:53, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Maliner! Espresso Addict (talk) 18:28, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
+1 Thanks so much. Maliner (talk) 21:24, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seasons Greetings!

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The Queen Vic

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Thanks for your intervention here. I appreciate it. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 10:33, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jean-de-Nivelle: Sensible outcome, I think; sometimes a dash of IAR really is necessary to improve the encyclopedia. I had a quick look at Project Muse, which is generally the best bet on the Library for television topics, and found a lot of "iconic" mentions but not nearly enough detailed sourcing to support a separate article, though a more careful source search might well uncover such if you were interested. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 00:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia's EastEnders pages tend to be over-detailed and under-sourced. A lot of the information is "in universe" detail added incrementally by editors who watch the series, and as a result is difficult to source after the fact. That said, the loss of the page on the Queen Vic has left a big logical gap in our coverage of the soap. I don't watch it myself, so I'm not in a good position to rewrite the page, but I'm still hoping I can interest some of the regular EastEnders editors in helping out. I think it's worth saving in some form - I just hope I don't have to start scouring eBay for EastEnders annuals! Best wishes, Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 14:07, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the inspiration!

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I was very glad for the nudge to start writing down some of the likely-notable names and topics I’d love to get to eventually, or hand off to anyone else interested. I’ve begun that at User:Innisfree987/Red list. There are really so many that I started somewhat at random with named chairs in major US universities’ African-American studies departments. Half are women at the moment. I’ve just listed their title (for notability purposes), and that’s not terribly enticing I realize, but if you ever are looking for ideas, clicking through to see their faculty pages has more interesting info on their research interests. I’m also very happy to take requests—I noticed you’ve written about a number of virologists and other scientists in the past, so maybe I’d look for scientists next. No obligation whatsoever to use any of this, of course, just thought I’d share the link now that it exits! Thanks again for the idea, I will doubtless be adding much more to the pile! Innisfree987 (talk) 06:52, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Innisfree987 -- Thanks for the link! I'm glad it proved a useful notion. I don't think I've ever tried African-American studies academics, but now I know just where to go! Indeed, I was once (many many moons ago) a virologist, and I probably write more bios of biomedical scientists than any other single topic, but if there's any topic that I'm all over it at the moment, it would probably be architects, if you happened to have any up your sleeve? I'm hoping to do some more musicians next year, and seem to have accidentally embarked a wee bit early with my current project. Cheers, and good wishes for whatever aspect of the season you celebrate, Espresso Addict (talk) 02:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh architects! That sounds fun to me too. Let me see what I can dig up. And in the meantime, wishing happy holidays to you too! Innisfree987 (talk) 04:11, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Season's Greetings, Espresso Addict. Have a good day

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Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message

Firecat93 (talk) 20:56, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy holidays!

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Hello

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First of all, I hope you had a good Christmas. Secondly, I have already included several references to Klaus Schmidt-Hebbel's article as requested. It also no longer has the promotional tone that was claimed at the time. How do I request that the warning that I did everything be removed? Cuidro (talk) 02:32, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Cuidro -- It looks as if the only significant remaining warning is for lack of sources, which remains true; everything in a biography of a living person should have an inline citation to a reliable source, though you can use the subject's CV (if hosted by their university)/university profile for basic material such as date of birth, dates in positions. It's more of a problem as here when the CV is hosted by the person themselves -- is there a copy hosted by one of their universities? I have marked some places where sources would be useful explicitly. I will take care of the orphan tag shortly.
One side-note, if you ask a question relating to an article, it's wise to assume that the person will edit the article in response, so don't edit it yourself for a while for fear of edit conflicts! Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 03:03, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]