Question[]
How come we never see these in the movies?
Also, why didn't the Empire just make Stormtroopers their main infantry and utilize Kamino?
Do they always wear that armor? If they dont, does that shirt have any protection?
-- Captain Neo Exelor (Rebel Command Tactical Communication Link) 
- Responses: 1) The movie stuff was all pretty important engagements, like stuff with Vader or Death Stars, so they would use stormtroopers. 2) Stormtroopers were pretty common, but they used other sources besides Kamino after the war. The idea is they didn't want to waste too many stormies on low-intensity duties. 3)Probably whenever they're on duty 4) I doubt it. -LtNOWIS 02:08, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Images[]
Because of my lack of skills in making wiki pages I am unable to add a image file of an Imperial Army Trooper. Hopefully someone who can help me will add it. Here are two urls that have the image.
Imperial Army trooper = non-canon[]
I think that the addition of the "Imperial Army Trooper" as the main infantry of the Empire is a mistake. The role of the Clone Army as the main military force for the Old Republic was directly transfered over to the Empire when they became the Stormtroopers.
On Star Wars' official site, "Imperial Army Trooper" isn't listed anywhere because it doesn't exist. The Stormtroopers are the Army.
Who is to say the guys shows on this website aren't just stormtroopers with different uniforms? You don't really need a whole stromie suit to sit in an ATST.
- The Imperial Army was largely responsible for planetary garrison. Most garrisons on Imperial worlds were held by Imperial Army troopers. The Imperial Army was also the main force behind the ground-side operations when a planet was being subjugated. The Stormtroopers were more of an elite shock trooper unit; they reinforced the Imperial Army during planetary invasions and occupation, provided security on Imperial Naval installations and ships (while making sure the Navy didn't betray the Emperor), and executed high-priority missions (like with Darth Vader on the hunt for the Death Star plans and so on). I think it's debatable which was larger, the Stormtroopers or the Army. Both had numbers in the billions. But, again, the Imperial Army was a typical military force, while the Stormtroopers were the Emperor's personal army, his guarantee that neither the Army or Navy would betray him. --Danik Kreldin 16:35, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- I think the claim about Imperial army and the troopers not being canon and not "existing" is finally dead after we have seen them in the Solo movie.--192.38.142.203 06:23, May 27, 2018 (UTC)
Camo-jacket[]
Added a sentence. My source is a short story (I forget the name) from "Tales of the New Republic".
- Thanks. In the future, however, you don't need to make an explanation of your edits on talk pages. That's what edit summaries are for. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
12:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Main image[]
Can someone please tell me why the main image (and several others around the wiki) are blocks of red? If anyone else can see red please let me know.--The All-knowing Sith'ari 19:50, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Huh?[]
Ok...if the Imperial Army is more common then the Stormtroopers...why are Imperial Troopers so rarely seen? According to this article, the Imperial Army is the equivalent to our own army, and the Stormtroopers are the Marine Corps. But everyone knows there are far less Marines then their are Army men. It just seems so odd.--67.114.181.178 22:54, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- It's not that they are rarely seen; it's just that they haven't appeared in a lot of sources. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision)
23:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Weapons...?[]
Does anyone know what weapons the Army Troopers wear how we can see on the pictures?
Okay, the weapon seen on “Imperial Army Trooper2.jpg” looks like the E-11 blaster rifle (not the carbine!), but this weapon was used by stormtroopers. Did the imperial Army have access to this version of the e-11 too?
The weapons seen on “Imperial Army Trooper1.jpg” and “Imperial Army Trooper (Field Armor).jpg” are unknown for me. I don’t know the name of this type and I haven’t found a Blaster that looks like the model on the picture. The same for “Imperial Army Special Missions Trooper.jpg"... —Prætorian 22:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Policemen[]
To me it sounds like these guys are more like the US's national guard, protecting the homeland. In that case, maybe it should be noted that these men are more like a large, military-like police force. Most EU authors never acknowledge their existence, and Lucas intended for the stormtroopers to be the faceless infantry/army of the empire, not these guys. Anyone else think the [age shouldbe edited to make them appear as more of a police force?
An analogy for the roles of the Imperial Army vs. the Stormtrooper Corps[]
I think you're closer with the National Guard than with a police force, but I also think there is no real analog in the United States military, since it's not (and I'm not looking for a political argument, so save any objections) an imperial power in the traditional sense. The best analogy is the German military of World War II. The Stormtroopers can be seen as the SS, while the Imperial Army can be seen as the Wehrmacht, the regular German Army.
The Wehrmacht was mainly those soldiers who had always been German soldiers, before Germany came under Nazi control. The Imperial Army can be seen as similar in that it was likely largely formed out of the planetary militaries of the various worlds once they came under Imperial control (as the Old Republic had no standing military of its own).
There are also many parallels between the Stormtrooper Corps and the SS. The SS was created by the Nazi government as enforcers. They had a command structure separate that of the Wehrmacht and were loyal to Hitler more so than Germany, just as the Stormtroopers are more loyal to the Emperor himself than the Empire. Like the SS ensured Hitler had eyes everywhere to ensure the loyalty of the regular military forces, so too do the Stormtroopers serve to ensure loyalty on Imperial vessels, battlestations, and planets.
More so than being more elitely trained (no one can deny that Stormies are terrible shots), the SS and Stormtrooper Corps were simply more heavily indoctrinated with the ideologies of their respective governments, the SS with Aryan supremacy and the Stormies with High Human Culture, and both with the belief that their leader was the supreme individual in the universe. The Stormies were created (quite literally, in the beginning) as the perfect Imperial soldier, not in training, but in psychology. They were bred, trained, and brainwashed (moreso the latter two once the Stormtrooper Corps started using non-clone soldiers) to see their own lives as expendable in the name of the Emperor. Their strength lay not in their ability to fire a blaster, but to charge through an airlock or across a field with no regard for their own lives and no questions regarding their orders.
The Imperial Army troopers, on the other hand, were servants of the Empire, as opposed to servants of the Emperor. Like the Wehrmacht who were simply German soldiers serving a new Germany and who did not necessarily believe in the ideals of the Nazi government, so too were the Army troopers simply continuing to serve their governments, which were suddenly consolidated into one. Like the German soldiers, the new Imperial Army soldiers were probably not drawn to or loyal to the new government because of its hateful ideologies, but simply because of the added protection it offered to their homelands by adopting a more militarized policy.
I think it is about time the Imperial Army troopers were introduced into official canon; they've been around since the beginning, originally only as an implication to serve as the "non-elite" contrast to the "elite" Stormtrooper Corps (you can't be elite if there's no one else to compare to). I'm personally working on a short story (though it doesn't seem like anyone cares much about SW fan fiction anymore these days) that is from the point of view of the Imperial Army, and casts a bit more grey into the traditionally very black-and-white SW galaxy (in two ways, :P). SIGH... if only once I wrote it some SW author saw it and decided to help me adapt it into a novel so that they'd be officially introduced into the canon. :D
Anyway, I hope that analogy helped; based on what I know of the Stormtrooper Corps and the Imperial Army, I think it is the most accurate. TK-134 21:41, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
- I think that the army is just a standing army and the Stormtroopers serve as a marine corps. This would explain why only stormtroopers are seen in the films, as occupied planets aren't seen. Also, it would be typical of Palpatine to take the dual purpose army/marines (the clones) and make them into just the marine corps, so that the military could expand. User:1705jallen
stormtroopers[]
I think that the way we should see it is that the stormtroopers are the main infantry and these guys are like the bare minimum,the skeleton force, the troops that sort of already come with with the vehicles if you like. these guys pilot the vehicles and work the comms while the stormtroopers do the rest. 194.105.169.193 16:40, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Except that's plain and simply not true. jSarek 17:40, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
in the article it says the most common troops on SUBJECT worlds so these guys are more military police than anything else
- "SUBJECT worlds" and military police? I dont see the conection or logic. What are you saying? Do the Empire not need or have regular infantry to subjugate a planet or wage war?