events/2024-02-28-hwc-europe
Homebrew Website Club Europe/London was an IndieWeb meetup on Zoom held on 2024-02-28.
- Archived from: https://etherpad.indieweb.org/2024-02-28-hwc-europe
Participants
Mark Sutherland - https://marksuth.devSara Jakša - https://sarajaksa.eu (is your site down? - Thanks. It is fixed now. I guess I should have checked the htaccess file after changing it - the IP blocking that I tried for one anoying scraper did not work as expected)
capjamesgJoe Crawford - https://artlung.com/
Angelo Gladding
mandaris
Al Abut
Paul Watson - https://www.lazaruscorporation.co.uk/
jo - https://dead.garden
Pablo Morales
Tantek Çelik- Template:Jasmin - https://combinatori.at
- Template:chaku - http://chaku.xyz/
- toddpresta.com
benjiDavid Shanske
- ... add names
Welcome to the Etherpad!!!!
Notes
- UK Coffee shop culture shift: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY7_rNiz9BY
- Math vs Maths https://www.thesaurus.com/e/grammar/math-vs-maths/
- Lego vs Legos?
Digital Gardens
James' notes to others :) Thanks a lot, that's very helpful! - You're welcome! We sometimes have discussions that go on in Etherpad as well as the main chat :D -- not all topics are relevant to everyone haha.
- Jasmin
- There are a lot of tools out there for making digital gardens! You can use tools like WordPress with posts / pages that link to each other.
- If you want a private digital garden, Roam Research / Notion / Obsidian may be worth a look! (I like Notion for my notes and personal digital garden :D)
- If you use Obsidian, you can publish your Obsidian to your own website without code with https://obsidian.md/publish
- Some people make "static sites" that are digital gardens. This involves a bit of programming. There are tools out there like Eleventy that can help, but may take a few hours to get the hang of!
- This digital garden is _huge_ but I love https://wiki.nikiv.dev/ That's a great example! Kind of what I envision for my site as well in the future.
- You can also use MediaWiki. I'm not sure if you can pay a service to host it for you, but if you can it's pretty interesting (NB: There is a maintenance burden, so maybe another tool is better.). Here's mine: https://wiki.jamesg.blog/index.php?title=Special:AllPages (example https://wiki.jamesg.blog/index.php?title=Movies)
- Question: What kind of things do you want to publish in your garden? (I'm looking for inspiration :D) Text mostly, some images, but mostly text. I envision it as a kind of storage place of what I learn when I dive into a new area of interest. Which happens quite frequently and evolves over time, so I'd love to edit and improve stuff over time.
- I am excited to see what you make!
- https://marksuth.dev/posts/2023/08/indieweb-carnival-august-2023-gardening -- lots of blog posts on gardening!
Jasmin I'd say when using WordPress and wanting to extend it I'd say that an important step is to use a child theme that you can edit yourself. That way if you want to add. new kind of page, for example a specific template for recipes, you can add them there and still get the security of theme updates from wordpress.org. https://developer.wordpress.org/themes/advanced-topics/child-themes/ talks a bit about it. -
Intros
New Members ~ Welcome!
- Jasmin
- Al's first HWC Europe!
- Chaitanya K (chaku)
- I like your website, Chaitanya! I love performance optimization! thank you!! that makes me very happy :D
- ... add notes
Digital Gardens
- Maggie Appleton https://maggieappleton.com/ originator (?) of the idea of a website as a digital garden
- https://keningzhu.com/
- digital_garden & https://maggieappleton.com/garden-history
- https://notes.andymatuschak.org/About_these_notes
- https://www.fromjason.xyz/
Misc. Discussions
Tailwind vs CSS https://nuejs.org/blog/tailwind-vs-semantic-css/
Simplicity and the changing cycles of web tech: https://frankchimero.com/blog/2018/everything-easy/
Mistrust-Based Technology Choices post by
Tantek: "being empowered to tinker"
Latest Blog posts
Jamesg: https://jamesg.blog/2024/02/28/beginners-mind-empathy/
Paul Watson latest blog post: https://www.lazaruscorporation.co.uk/blogs/artists-notebook/posts/saints-and-martyrs
- comment from
Related to blog posts:
Blog post by Cal Newport making a case for putting more effort into each creation, not just for volume: https://calnewport.com/how-the-acquired-podcast-became-a-sensation/
Music room on a personal website: https://anhvn.com/posts/2024/building-the-listening-room/ (James note: I love everything about this website -- check out the homepage for an amazing comic.)
Sparking joy as main motivator for working on your personal site: joy
And sometimes pain = fun, if that's your idea of joy. "Type 2 fun" is a phrase in the endurance sports community.
Nicole Lazzaro, brilliant gaming expert describes 4 types of fun in games:
https://www.nicolelazzaro.com/the4-keys-to-fun/ :
- Hard Fun: "Fiero" – in the moment personal triumph over adversity
- Easy Fun: Curiosity
- Serious Fun: Relaxation and excitement
- People Fun: Amusement
Tantek: "garden manually and write code for things you find yourself doing over and over again" -> I really like this idea, since it goes so well with the "gardening" metaphor. Grow things organically over time instead of planning them out from scratch. - James: love this point!
SVGs, CSS Art, and other things we've made
Paul Watson adapted the sparkline from capjamesg's site: https://www.lazaruscorporation.co.uk/blogs/artists-notebook
Stuart's SVG tutorial: https://gist.github.com/OllyHodgson/4473766
Joe's CSS illustration of a Cassette Tape, spooling https://codepen.io/artlung/pen/LYaqgKG
- Make it (Taylor's Version): https://github.com/ipc103/make-it-taylors-version
- GitHub tool to add "(Taylor's Version)" to Issues
marking up updates to websites
- <s> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/s
- <del> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/del and
- <ins> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/ins
- Whoever is writing this: you beat me to it :D - James
Adam Conover spoke with Cory Doctorow at Vroman's in Pasadena on 24 Fed 24: https://www.vromansbookstore.com/Cory-Doctorow-discusses-The-Bezzle (I almost would guess that audio and or video this will get posted online at some point if not by you Angelo Gladding :-) -- Doctorow's blog is at https://pluralistic.net/
- People and Blogs series: https://manuelmoreale.com/
- https://noisydeadlines.net/
- “I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.” – Douglas Adams ++
I feel obliged to mention Delete Your Drafts on Leap Day (tomorrow in the Americas and Europe) https://aaron.jorb.in/leap-day-is-delete-your-drafts-day/
Jam: https://web.archive.org/web/20221202222705/https://www.thisismyjam.com/ Audioscrobbler begat Last.fm: https://www.last.fm/ (see Last.fm )
- posts what music he is listening/songs he'd like to share with others. He uses a mariadb (mysql) database to update the list on his website and creates a webapp to update the database. He really likes the band, All Time Low for example.
- https://lifeofpablo.com/lists/music-listened
- Also added a tags page on my blog. https://lifeofpablo.com/blog/tags
Chatting About Recommendation Algorithms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaborative_filtering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recommender_system If you have questions about technical details, message James! I enjoy learning about the technical details of these systems! (and evaluating what makes sense and when; and when an algorithm isn't the right thing to use!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentiment_analysis
https://dead.garden/blog/search-engine-hostility.html
On the discussion relating to recommendation systems. I've enjoyed this blogpost about curation a lot: https://www.fromjason.xyz/p/notebook/where-have-all-the-websites-gone/ Personally, I've found myself turning away more and more from algorithmic recommendation systems and turn more towards seeking out other people's opinions. And actively seeking out people whose opinions and recommendations I can trust.
Paul Ford's Six Word Reviews: http://www.smithmag.net/obsessions/2009/03/19/paul-fords-six-word-sxsw-reviews/ "To celebrate the beginning of this year’s South by Southwest music festival, Paul Ford from The Morning News wrote 1,302 six-word reviews of mp3s submitted by this year’s bands."
https://lieu.cblgh.org/outgoing?q=music https://lieu.cblgh.org/outgoing?q=movie
jo updated /now page: https://dead.garden/now/