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Last Call Review of draft-ietf-lamps-im-keyusage-02
review-ietf-lamps-im-keyusage-02-secdir-lc-rose-2024-10-27-00

Request Review of draft-ietf-lamps-im-keyusage
Requested revision No specific revision (document currently at 03)
Type Last Call Review
Team Security Area Directorate (secdir)
Deadline 2024-11-12
Requested 2024-10-22
Authors Rohan Mahy
I-D last updated 2024-10-27
Completed reviews Artart Last Call review of -02 by Cullen Fluffy Jennings (diff)
Genart Last Call review of -03 by Behcet Sarikaya
Secdir Last Call review of -02 by Kyle Rose (diff)
Secdir Last Call review of -03 by Kyle Rose
Assignment Reviewer Kyle Rose
State Completed
Request Last Call review on draft-ietf-lamps-im-keyusage by Security Area Directorate Assigned
Posted at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/secdir/s_zTQErNzAciFVtV53XQfVfLeYg
Reviewed revision 02 (document currently at 03)
Result Has nits
Completed 2024-10-27
review-ietf-lamps-im-keyusage-02-secdir-lc-rose-2024-10-27-00
I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing
effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG.  These
comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area directors.
 Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any other
last call comments.

The summary of this review is Ready with Nits. The spec itself seems
straightforward, but some of the text could be clarified.

I'm a little confused about this:

> Since IM clients could be very numerous, operators are reticent to issue
> certificates for these users that might accidentally be used to validate a
> TLS connection because it has the KeyPurposeId id-kp-serverAuth or
> id-kp-clientAuth.

First, what is an "operator" in this context?

Second, is the worry that CAs might sign a certificate with the wrong
KeyPurposeId? I'm unsure how this specification would prevent that. Or is it
that absent this new purpose, there's nothing preventing a certificate from
being used in both contexts, creating cross-protocol attack risks (as outlined
in section 6 of RFC 9336)?

It seems like this works only if every validator enforces a proper value for
KeyPurposeId in received certificates, in which case this is just another
purpose to be added to the registry so IM clients have a unique KeyPurposeId to
check for. Is that right?

This text could use some wordsmithing:

> This specification defines the KeyPurposeId id-kp-imUri, which MAY be used
> for signing messages to prove the identity of an Instant Messaging client.

I don't think the KeyPurposeId is used for signing messages. You might want
something like "This specification defines the KeyPurposeId id-kp-imUri, which
MAY be included in certificates used to prove the identity of an Instant
Messaging Client." Though I think to deal with the above concern, the entire
certificate ecosystem MUST enforce the presence of an appropriate value. I
wonder if the normative language even needs to be here, versus in the protocol
specification.