Twenty-five years after its release on Christmas Day 1997, the political comedy Wag the Dogâcentered on a fake war cooked up to distract from a presidential scandalâcanât help but still resonate in a world where shifting realities do daily battle on the media landscape. âThereâs always been a relationship between Hollywood and politics and we wanted to have some fun with it,â says Jane Rosenthal, who produced the film with star Robert De Niro. âBut as proud as I am of the movie, it makes me very sad that you couldnât even make up some of the shit thatâs going on right now.â
Starring De Niro, Dustin Hoffman, and a wide range of stars and future stars, Wag the Dog made $64 million at the box office worldwide (back when audiences would actually leave the house to see that kind of thing), earned two Oscar nominations, and seemed so prophetic about the scandals of the Clinton administration that news trucks wound up parked outside director Barry Levinsonâs house. But it was also a true Hollywood story of behind-the-scenes negotiations, hastily wrangled celebrity cameos, and, eventually, controversy over who deserved credit.Â
Wag the Dog started with the kernel of a literary concept that was then developed through an adaptation process and evolved into what many argue was a completely fresh interpretation from Pulitzer Prizeâwinning writer David Mamet, only to be explored and improvised with abandon on set. Production was squeezed into a tight 30-day window, yielding a mad-dash scramble to find and deploy all the right pieces for what would become one of the most enduring, and still-biting, political satires Hollywood has ever produced.
âI donât think Iâve ever been part of a more prescient film,â says Hoffman, who received an Oscar nomination for his performance as an eccentric Hollywood producer. âItâs kind of crazy.â
Below, in their own words, cast and crew members discuss the experienceâand the legacyâof Wag the Dog, 25 years on.
1. âWeâre gonna do WHAT?â
Larry Beinhart (Author, American Hero): I was watching the Gulf War on television and I basically made a joke: âThis is a made-for-TV movie.â And I did not get the laughs I expected. So, I felt I needed to expand on it. I donât think it was manufactured, but I do think that the Gulf War and all its elements were very consciously presented as World War II 2: The Video. Everybody got cast in certain roles. I sat down, I said, âIf I wanted to make a satirical, exaggerated version of it, Iâd get a pretend director like George Lucas or Steven Spielberg. What would that have been like?â And thatâs what the book is.
Jane Rosenthal (Producer):Â There were a number of things in the book that we were attracted to, but I just liked the idea that Hollywood was going to create a war. Bob and I are always politically inclined. So, I sold the book to De Luca at New Line.
Michael De Luca (Former President of Production, New Line Cinema):Â I thought the book was an ingenious satire. I laughed out loud a lot, even though it can get pretty dark at times.
Robert De Niro (Producer/âConrad Breanâ):Â I didnât actually read the novel. I know I should say I did, but I didnât.
Beinhart: By the time it went through the pitch and sold, [Bill] Clinton was president. With the [Wag the Dog] script, they made a Clintonian version of it. Instead of going out and actually having a war that would appeal to the American people so as to fix domestic political problems, they manufactured the illusion of a war. It was a very apt update.
Rosenthal: We hired Hilary Henkin to do a draft of the script. She had written a script for me and Bob called Stolen Flower and I had always been looking for something else to do with her. Her draft was a faithful adaptation of the book.
Hilary Henkin (Screenwriter): The kernel of the book was certainly inspirational, but we left much of it behind early on. Jane was the ideal producer for this material, because she saw the far-reaching implications of the piece. I remember I had a little postcard with a wonderful line from Citizen Kane: âIf the headline is big enough, it makes the news big enough.â I think thatâs really quintessential. I went to various image-makers, military personnel, administrative types, and it was made very clear to me that to control the perception of a war, the images that arrive at the publicâs door have to be disseminated with care. But where is the intersection between shooting an actual war and using it to your advantage, and simply creating those scenes yourself? I remember sitting across from people saying, âWhere do you want your war? Weâll put your war wherever you want it.â So, thatâs where my writing took me.
De Luca:Â That script and the book is what caught the attention of Barry Levinson.
De Niro: I was shooting Heat on a weekend. We were shooting the bank heist in downtown LA with the CAR-15s and all that stuff. Barry came in and we talked about the movie and thatâs where it started.
Barry Levinson (Director):Â I didnât like the screenplay. I thought there was something there about politics and media manipulation, but it didnât excite me. Then I read the book and I said, âTo be honest with you, I like why youâre interested, but I donât particularly like this version either.â
Rosenthal: Barry got Dustin involved. Barry had Sphere that he was going to be doing with Dustin, and that got delayed. So, he was basically going to do this quick little movie before starting prep on that. And Bob and Dustin had been trying to do a movie together.
Dustin Hoffman (âStanley Motssâ): The first time I met Bob is, I had a supporting part in a film Barry did called Sleepers. I was an attorney. I was just doing it as a favor. It was barely a supporting role. But I remember that I learned something, because De Niro was on the witness stand, and he had his lines tucked under his leg that he would refer to between takes. Then weâd do another take, and he couldnât get them all out. Heâd just sit there with a smile on his face and say, âI donât remember it.â But there was no fear. Coming from the theater, I somehow unconsciously feel that you donât get a second chance. If you forget the lines on stage, youâve got to regroup very quickly. And here I was realizing thereâs nothing wrong. Itâs just a take! I learned that from him.Â
Levinson:Â It was Bob and Jane and Dustin, and we were all sort of talking. I said, âI donât respond to this, but the thing thatâs interesting is, if you deny something that never existed, it can take on a life of its own.â It would be like saying, âThe trip to Seattle has nothing to do with the B-3 bomber.â And then the press is saying, âWhat B-3 bomber?â I was just giving it as an example of how you can create the beginning of a buzz by throwing out something that the media starts chasing, how you can keep sliding information and changing the topic of the story. Bob said, âWhy donât you have a conversation with David Mamet?â So, I called David and we started to talk.
Through his attorney, David Mamet declined an interview for this story.
De Luca:Â Mamet came up with his own take on a satire involving the minions of a president ginning up a fake war to take attention away from a scandal. He tried to think of the wildest thing that could never happen as a point of departure and came up with the scandal for the script. I went to San Francisco and heard his pitch over the phone with De Niro and Jane and Barry. We all loved it.
Rosenthal:Â Then we realized Hilary wasnât going to continue with it. David went away and very quickly wrote a script in three or four weeks. I remember him calling me and saying, âJanie, I have the script and Iâm going to send it in.â I was like, âDavid, maybe you should take a little more time.â He said, âLook, I can tell you Iâm going to take some more time, Iâm going to put it in my desk drawer and then after the time passes, Iâll send it to you. Or I can send it to you now.â And I said, âOK, send it to me now.â
Levinson: Davidâs work was very sparse. It has a real motor to it and an efficiency of language. It was a lot of fun. I remember saying to him one day, when we had one of the drafts, âWeâve got the producer, and weâve got our guy, our media manipulator. I think we need the other person.â He said, âWhat other person?â I said, âThe person that keeps saying, âWeâre gonna do what? What do you mean weâre gonna start a war?â That person.â He took two seconds, he says, âGot it.â He hung up and went back to doing some work on it, and thatâs how [Anne Hecheâs character] came about. Davidâs great that way. If an idea makes sense to him then heâs off to the races.
De Niro:Â Mamet is a wonderful writer, though he has certain things that are eccentric. Like, âI give you the script and thatâs it.â You donât get a rewrite [from him], as far as Iâve ever experienced. [Former US diplomat] Richard Holbrooke was a friend of mine and he went over the script and gave his thoughts about it. He wrote about âthe office behind the Oval Office.â We used that in the movie, along with other things he contributed.
Hoffman: This was a producer character that had been done quite a few times and I didnât think I could do it in a fresh way. I turned it down at first because, as written, he was somewhat of a cliché. He was overweight and he was by a Beverly Hills pool smoking a cigar and I said, âBarry, I canât do this. I donât even know where to begin. Get someone closer to this.â
De Luca:Â To make the budget, everybody had to work under their quotes, and it was my job to close those deals. They were all closed except we were haggling with Hoffman. I had to reach deep down and find the courage to act like a studio boss to Robert De Niro and get him to lean on Hoffman, in his capacity as a producer, to get him to close his deal. It was very hard for me, because when you grew up in New York in the â70s on De Niroâs movies, heâs God, basically. I kind of stammered and stumbled my way through trying to sound authoritative, like, âYou have to go get this done or else the movie is not happening.â He had mercy on me and let me off the hook and got Dustin to basically agree to his deal. There was some very nuanced, kind of intuitive humor on that call, because he knew what I was struggling with, which was that I revered and worshiped him.
Rosenthal: Part of the way we got peopleâwe got Bob Richardson and Rita Ryack, all of our extraordinary people below the line, Wynn Thomasâwe said, âWeâre going to do this quickly, so weâre going to give you your full weekly rates, but itâs just going to be a shorter movie.âÂ
De Luca: Barry Levinson, man, he had to make that movie in an insane number of days, because he had to go into Sphere, which was a big Warner Bros. adventure movie based on the Michael Crichton novel.
In October of 1996, New Line parent company Warner Bros. shut down Sphere in the pre-production stage, reportedly to allow for a closer examination of the filmâs special-effects budget and time to tweak the screenplay.
Beinhart: I donât remember what my original sources are, but I believe this to be true: Barry Levinson was set up to do Sphere, and Barry decides that the budget they were going to give him was a couple of million dollars short. In the meantime, heâs been having conversations with Hoffman and De Niro about doing what became Wag the Dog. Heâs negotiating over the Sphere deal and they said theyâre not going to give him the money, and he says, âOK, Iâll go do something else.â He calls up Hoffman and De Niro and says, âLook, I got this hole in my schedule, youâve got holes in your schedule,â bing, bing, bing, and Wag the Dog is scheduled to go. The studio calls Levinson. âWhatâs going on?â He said, âI told you if you didnât give me the money, I was gonna go do something else.â They said, âWe thought that was just a negotiating tactic!â At this point, Barryâs got a film lined up to do with De Niro and Hoffman. Whoâs going to walk away from that? So, he makes a deal with Sphere that theyâre going to shoot Wag the Dog as scheduled, then shoot Sphere and edit Sphere, and not edit Wag the Dog until after Sphere.
Levinson: I canât remember all the details, to be honest. There was an issue about the budget of Sphere and it did go on hold for a short time.
Rosenthal: Whether Wag the Dog had to come out before or after Sphere, frankly, from my point of view, I didnât care. I wanted to get this movie made. And it was different anyway. But I just remember the arguments that Barry had to make, and him thinking it was crazy that they were not letting him go make a movie. I remember him saying, âInstead of going on vacation, I want to make a movie.â
Levinson: I had a meeting with [former Warner Bros. cochairman and co-CEO] Terry Semel and I said to him, âLook, Sphere is a big vehicle and this is a small piece. Youâve got to hit the ground running all the time.â And he said, âWell, what are we talking about?â And thatâs when I said, âI think we can shoot the movie in 30 days.â
Rosenthal:Â Warner Bros. finally relented and said, âOK, go do both.â It was a little movie. New Line believed in it. But they were taking chances. Look at the movies they were making at that time. They were making edgier, quirky movies.
De Luca: We tried to have two tracks for New Line. We tried to have what we considered to be elevated genre films with new starsâRush Hour, Austin Powers, Menace II Society, the Friday moviesâand then, almost like a Miramax/Dimension split, we would also do the slightly specialized films like Boogie Nights and Magnolia and Wag the Dog.
Rosenthal:Â We were just trying to prove you could go fast and have fun making a movie. What a surprise!
2. âWeâre just gonna blow this thing out of the cannon and see how it goes.â
The story Mamet and Levinson conceived would feature De Niro as Conrad Brean, a Washington, DC, spin doctor summoned by presidential PR advisor Winifred Ames (Heche) with an election looming 11 days away. They enlist the aid of Hollywood producer Stanley Motss (Hoffman) to conjure and package a fake war in Albania in order to distract the public from a scandal involving the presidentâs sexual advances toward an underage âFirefly Girl.â
Actors Denis Leary, Willie Nelson, and Andrea Martin would fill out the roles of Motssâ creative nucleus, along with Suzie Plakson as Motssâ personal assistant, while John Michael Higgins and Suzanne Cryer would star as a press secretary and White House intern, respectively. Comedians David Koechner and Harland Williams, as well as an up-and-coming Kirsten Dunst, would show up in small roles as part of the Hollywood movie-magic machinery. Levinsonâs old pal Craig T. Nelson would play the presidentâs election opponent, while longtime Mamet collaborator William H. Macy would drop in with a cameo as a CIA agent sniffing out Breanâs gambit. Finally, Woody Harrelson would nab the pivotal role of Sergeant William Schumann, an American âheroâ conjured out of thin air who adds one final wrinkle to Motssâ plan.
Oh, and Jim Belushi would star asâ¦himself. But weâll get to that.
Ellen Chenoweth (Casting Director):Â I think the fact that we had to do it so quickly really helped things, because there wasnât a lot of time to spend trying to make decisions about who this character was, who that character was.
Debra Zane (Casting Director):Â They did a table reading together just to get the idea, that it could happen.
De Luca:Â That was a legendary read through. I thought it was just magic. But Dustinâs last concern was he was struggling to find the character.
Chenoweth:Â At that point, Bob and Dustin were pretty much in and they wanted to hear it, and Barry wanted to hear it. I know Anne Heche was there. I brought her in to read this part, which was originally written as a guy.
Levinson:Â As I was hearing her read it, I went, âOh, this is better than three guys. Itâs a whole other dimension at work.â So, that reading brought on Anne, and to be honest, I donât know that David said, âWell, I have to rewrite it for a female.â I donât think we did anything. There might be a line somewhere that we had to fix, but otherwise, it worked perfectly. And she was just right on the money.
Hoffman:Â I remember saying to Barry, actors are reluctant to step on other actorsâ lines. But in life, many times, you donât let the person finish. By the time theyâre in the middle of their sentence, you know where theyâre going and you come in. Thereâs so much more overlapping. I thought we should do this that way. He agreed and that was kind of the plan, and Anne just caught that immediately. I really think she was one of the best, and certainly would have proven herself, with more films, to be one of the best comedic actresses that we have. She was that good.
Zane: After that, we just jammed. It was days full of auditions. Barry was extremely decisive and energetic. I was just glancing at Metacritic at all the reviews, most of which were so positive, and this guy from the San Francisco Examiner said it was a testament to what happens when the right ingredients come together. I would add, âat the right time.â It was really weird that I had time, Ellen had time, Barry had time, Dustin had time, Bob had time. Iâve never worked that fast.
Levinson:Â We were lucky that a lot of the names we mentioned were free for the time frames that we needed them. Willie Nelson was free. Denis Leary was free.
Denis Leary (âFad Kingâ): I knew Bob and Jane for a while at that point. He wanted me to meet Michael Mann for Heat, which I did, but I couldnât do the movie because I was already booked. I got famous, like, one of those overnight things, and I had like three movies in a row. I was booked to do a film with Chris Walken called Suicide Kings, which was shooting in LA, and they said, âFuck it, weâll work the schedule out.â So, I shot Wag the Dog and Suicide Kings at the same time, meaning I was working with Bob, Dustin, and Chris Walken in the same two-month period. At certain points, Chris was like, âHey, listen, I got an envelope. Itâs a message for Bob. Will you take it when you go to Wag the Dog tomorrow?â It was crazy.
Andrea Martin (âLiz Butskyâ):Â I remember it being a really exciting, high-profile job where all these wonderful actors were going to be in it and somehow that elevated me into, Wow, Iâm in a real movie! I donât know if the script made as much impact as the actual package to me, because I hadnât really done many movies at all. I had never seen the movie, by the way. I donât watch anything Iâm in. So, I watched it three nights ago. I thought it was really good!
Zane:Â We definitely leaned into more comedic actors for all of the supporting parts. David Koechner, John Michael Higgins. Barry really has the self-confidence to just go for it with people like that.
Chenoweth: Harland Williams. Barry loves funny people. Even if itâs a drama. Like Avalon, he cast Kevin Pollak in one of his first movie things because we saw him on The Tonight Show. He just likes that energy that they bring.
Zane:Â They always get the timing right. They know how to pace it. And I think when there is a time limit, for a lot of artists, the game comes right up. Some people canât work like that, but I really think we nailed all the right people. Everybody understood that weâre just doing this, like, right now.
David Koechner (âDirectorâ): It was the first movie I had ever done. I was on SNL the year before, so Iâd never been on a movie set or a studio soundstage. I was kind of figuring things out. But I did meet Harland on that film, which was fantastic.
Harland Williams (âPet Wranglerâ):Â I remember my girlfriend at the time, who was a very serious actress, being kind of jealous. Here I am, Iâm barely acting, and now Iâm working with De Niro and Hoffman. She just kind of looked at me, like, You prick.
William H. Macy (âMr. Youngâ): It was a pretty thrilling time. I had been a journeyman actor in Chicago and New York for 15 or 20 years. Every once in a blue moon I would get the leading role. But I spent most of my early adult life onstage. After Fargo, it was really over a year before I started to feel the residual benefits of having been in such a magnificent film and getting a nomination and all of that. Around Wag the Dog and Boogie Nights, I started to say, âOh, Iâm at the grownupsâ table now.â
Suzanne Cryer (âAmy Cainâ): I think everybody who did it, nobody cared what the size of their role was. You just wanted to be part of it.
John Michael Higgins (âJohn Levyâ):Â The whole thing was described to me as a bit of a stunt, because we were going to shoot it in 28 days or something like that. And to me, that didnât sound like a stunt at all, because all of my movies were shot in 28 days at that time! But I think it gave the film a quality. It wasnât a sort of slumming-it quality, but it was a quality of, Letâs put on a show in the barn. An Andy Hardy quality. Weâre just gonna blow this thing out of the cannon and see how it goes.
Hoffman:Â If we would have had 100 days, I donât think it would have been the same movie. We were in a hurry, as the movie is, in a sense. Weâre playing catchup constantly.
Leary:Â Iâm supposed to be Dustin Hoffmanâs right-hand man. When we got to the rehearsal stage, it was me, Dustin, Barry, Anne, and a small cadre of producers, with a tape recorder. We would improvise and if Barry liked stuff, he was going to have it typed up into pages. And I donât know Dustin. Iâm just a fan of the guy. So, Iâm sitting down next to Dustin and we start doing improvisation, and itâs fucking all over the place, his character. I mean, heâs got different accents, heâs using different rhythms. I canât fucking key in at all. And nobody seems worried! Nobody seems concerned. Weâd just try another scene and another scene.
Hoffman: I was so bad. Itâs the worst experience I ever had. I didnât know what to do. I never come into it the first day with a so-called âcharacter.â I just show up and think that something will happen. In the theater, you rehearse three or four weeks, and you go out of town and youâre finding and defining the role in that period of time. Even after opening night, you can keep refining it, because itâs a different audience that comes. So, the character is built from the ground up. In film, you donât get a chance to rehearse. There were two exceptions: Mike Nichols on The Graduate, which was like a month, and then ironically the film after that, Midnight Cowboy. John Schlesinger did the same thing. Waldo Salt had a tape recorder and he used to tape everything that [Jon] Voight and I did, which was just improvising. Then heâd take it home, build it into dialogue, and he won an Academy Award.
Leary:Â We tried, like, three hoursâ worth of stuff and then we took a break. I went outside to smoke a cigarette and Bob came out to make a phone call. I looked at him and I went [shrugs] like that, and he went, âI donât know, man.â Iâm like, Oh, this is great. Iâm finally working with two hall-of-famers and one of them I canât figure out and the other oneâs like, âI donât know!â So, that was day one.
Levinson:Â It was great for Denis to come aboard because heâs so quick and fits right in with what David had written. Sometimes he would go off and play around with some particular thing and if it worked, we might use it, and if it didnât, weâd just discard it. Andrea was terrific in her costume-designer role. It was a very good, very quick-on-their-feet cast.
Rosenthal:Â The other thing was, who should be president? We couldnât find anybody that Barry thought was right, [who] wouldnât take you out of the movie.
Zane:Â We went through a list of movie stars and everyone kind of zeroed in on a name-y actor that we thought would be good. We got that personâs agent on the phone and they got really excited. We sent the script by messenger and it was going to be on the guyâs doorstep, because he was shooting something. The agent was going to prep him to read it quickly and blah, blah, blah. Then we hang up, and we keep talking, and I guess it was Barry or somebody [who] said, âWhat if you never see the president?â Like, over the shoulder, side of the back of the head. Youâd never see the face, but youâd know thatâs the president. And I was like, âOh my God, that is so much better.â So, we had to call the agent back and put the brakes on that. He went completely ballistic. He was furious with us, even though he hadnât even connected with his client yet. It happened within the span of an hour or less, that the whole thing changed. But then, the Clinton thing was on the heels of this and there was that amazing imagery that was prescient.
Rosenthal: It became almost that same shot of Monica Lewinsky in her beret looking up at Clinton, where we only see the back of the president.
Chenoweth:Â Barry and Craig T. Nelson were old writing partners.
Levinson: We started out together. We met in an acting group in 1968 and we used to do a lot of improv stuff together. He was married and he was working in a bank, and I was working in a deli or parking cars. It was one of those things where we were both sort of beginning. Heâs a very talented actor, in dramatic and comedic. So, when Wag the Dog came up, I just gave him a call to see if he wanted to jump in and play around.
Craig T. Nelson (âSenator John Nealâ):Â I think I was there maybe half a day, but it was very easy. Barryâs technique is very relaxed, very easy going. Thereâs not a lot of pressure. Itâs one of those things where we couldnât believe what had happened, career-wise. At some point you canât help but remember where you both came from. It was like being able to see an old friend and reunite and then just have a good time, joke around. I didnât take a credit because why would I take credit for like two minutes? It doesnât matter. Itâs just fun to be there. You donât need to bump it, you know? What the heck.
3. âWhen itâs cooking, itâs cooking.â
Koechner:Â I thought everyone was going to really have great reverence for this script, right? Like, you donât improvise Mamet. You hit every comma, every period, every exclamation point. That wasnât the case.
Leary:Â Thank God David wasnât on set. The one day he did come was when we were in the recording-studio scenes. It was a real mixture of stuff we had improvised and stuff that David had written, and he was laughing his ass off. I think he just let it go because he heard it was going well. Otherwise, that would have been a pain in the ass. But even with whole scenes that were basically improvised, youâre still turning a corner into your next scene, and thereâs a big chunk of what David wrote.
Macy:Â All those pauses and beats that he puts in, he doesnât give a shit about that. He writes it so that it makes sense to the person reading it, but he doesnât hold anybody to that stuff. As a matter of fact, Iâve heard him say several times, when someone struggles with a line, âOh, well, I must have written it wrong,â and heâll change the line. I find Dave to be very forgiving and very patient, because I think he is aware his shit is hard to memorize, man.
Martin:Â It was like Barry was an actor with us. He would throw out lines. I think one of the lines he threw at me was, âI canât vote in small places.â He could accommodate everybodyâs acting style and it felt like we were all turned on. Robert De Niro was an introvert and Dustin Hoffman was an extrovert, but when they got on camera, they met each other on the same energetic plateau. It was fascinating to watch.
Leary:Â Itâs still so vivid in my brain, how bumpy the beginning of that process with Dustin was. And then how great it was when he came in with that haircut, and he pulled those glasses out. Afterwards I was talking to Barry and he said, âWhen he walked in with that haircut that third day, I knew.â
Michael White (Hairstylist for Hoffman): Dustin and all the big stars were going to Cristophe [Schatteman] in Beverly Hills, for his personal hairdresser. So, he was trying hairdressers out and Cristophe wanted to make sure that whoever was going to do this was as good of a hairdresser as they were someone who could style hair. I went to Dustinâs house and Cristophe was there. He blow-dried Dustinâs hair, then I blow-dried his hair. Then Dustin came out and he says, âYou have the job.â Then he tried on all these different glasses and he got drawn to the kind that Bob Evans wore. Dustin said to me, âCan you kind of tune my hair up to be big and perfect and blow-dried and sprayed and have that shape?â And thatâs how we ended up with that look. It was more that he wanted someone who technically could do that hairstyle. He didnât want it set. He didnât want it looking like it was in hot rollers. If you look at Evans, his hair is very perfect and sprayed and all that. I kind of just realized that the guy never was anywhere without looking perfectly groomed, and in every shot of the film, Dustin is perfectly groomed.
Levinson:Â There was a period of time when everyone would say Dustin was doing Bob Evans. Dustin used to imitate Bob Evans when he was telling stories about him, but that was completely different than what Dustin was doing in the film. We had picked a pair of glasses that looked too small, because his hair was so big. So, we needed bigger glasses, which got a little closer to Bob Evans. And then Evans said, âTheyâre copying me!â
Leary:Â Everybody was so keyed in after Dustin keyed in. Then we started to develop a rhythm. We would shoot a scripted page and then we would have pages from those improv rehearsals that Barry had saved. And then we would always do an extra take or two that was just coming up with ideas as we went.
Suzie Plakson (âGraceâ): Dustin wanted to improvise a little to show Barry what his and my relationship would be as his personal assistant. And because Iâm a foot taller than him, we sat him on my lap while I pretended to be taking a phone call. It got a little vaudeville. It was a blast. It lasted about two minutes. The set photographer gave me a photo of that bit as a momento.
Hoffman:Â They were going to have my character having a massage or something. I think it was Barryâs idea to get the tanning bed, and that to put me in that was more interesting, to be able to talk while Iâm in there. And the costume people donât get the attention that they should get, because sometimes theyâre on a production two months before you even get a script and theyâve kind of got your character down, at least in a way they see it. The idea of wearing a silk robe rather than just a terry cloth robe, I wasnât even aware of it at first, and then I realized on that first day, Wow. My father, who always wanted to be successfulâand he wasnât, financiallyâhe wore a silk bathrobe. But the kind that a very wealthy person would wear. He had beyond whatâs called âchutzpah,â and you could satirize him very easily, which I used to do when I was growing up, before I even thought about acting.
Rita Ryack (Costume Designer):Â Dustin wrote an inscription on something to me and it said, âI thank you and my father thanks you.â I never knew what that meant until now. His clothes were very expensive, as they should have been. He wanted everything to make him laugh a little bit. The first thing he put on, he said, âOh, this makes me giggle.â I went, âOK, now I see where weâre gonna go.â Itâs always so fascinating to see how different clothing, different shapes, work on different actors. I could never have dressed Dustin Hoffman the way I would Robert De Niro.
Leary:Â I walked in and [Rita] had that jacket. I had never seen a jacket like it before. She had it on a hanger and she said, âThis is the Fad King.â Costume designers can have such an eye for the material. She hit a nerve that summed the guy up. Iâve never seen a jacket like that. I kept that jacket, by the way.
De Niro: I had seen people from Washington, DC, always wearing bow ties. I thought that was kind of interesting. And the hat. The casualness of the character belied, if you will, what was the real intention of the character. I even see people today, like Steve Bannon, with the sloppiness and all that. Heâs an operator. No matter what he looks like on the surface, thereâs an agenda with a person like him and heâs trying to move it forward however he can. Thereâs nothing formidable about their look. Itâs about what they do.
Ryack: I donât think Iâve ever seen Bob in a bow tie. I couldnât believe it was him after Casino. His look was very collegiate, which was a little bit ironic for a guy who really had a lot of power in that story. A very bright, quick-thinking guy, and no matter what the crisis was, he responded. We did it right away, because Bob likes to know who his character is going to be, what heâs going to wear. It just really helps.
Robert Richardson (Director of Photography): I came into the film with very little time to prep. I had to leave U-Turn with Oliver Stone a few days early, so much of the look had been designed by all involved prior to my arrival. I do not recall that it was hectic. Everyone was extremely prepared and tight. I was thrown into the fire, and having just finished a rapid-day-count film with Oliver, I was extremely tight in mind.
Levinson:Â We didnât have a lot of money, so we had to be really nimble on our feet and shoot and move, shoot and move. Bob Richardson was fantastic in that he could just pick up, boom, weâre over here, shoot here, boom, move on. And no one felt rushed. There was always enough time to do the work that had to be done, and there was a real efficiency of how to set up and how quickly we could do something.
Leary:Â Almost all the time, Barry had two cameras going on dolly tracks. So, he was constantly doing at least two passes, and sometimes a third camera that was handheld. You didnât know when you were going to be on camera, or even when he was moving in close. Heâs like, âIâm coming in close, but you guys, you have to play this whole scene. Everybodyâs in it, because Iâm moving around.â He just kept that energy up.
Cryer:Â The crazy thing about Barry was, he was doing this in 28 days, and yet, he was so fucking relaxed! I donât remember him ever seeming stressed out. So many directors seem constantly stressed out when theyâre trying to get shit done, but Barry was just completely charming and chill and chatty and just kind of knocked through this stuff.Â
Macy:Â If memory serves, Barry is not an out-front director. Heâs relatively quiet. His notes were direct and clear and the vast majority of them had to do with the filmmaking. Or perhaps he just thought I was on it and didnât need anything. He talked to De Niro a good bit, but they talked privately. I remember Bob Richardson was wonderful to watch, too. I thought my scene was really pretty. I love the way he lit it. The bane of a lot of actors is when the lighting and camera setup takes so much time that by the time you finally get to act it, youâve lost the will to live. And you look at it and go, It doesnât look that different than it did four hours ago. This moved along with dispatch. There was not a lot of waiting around.
Rosenthal:Â That scene was scheduled for two days and they finished it in half a day.
De Niro:Â I have a very long monologue with Bill Macy, and I learned it verbatim, because it was so well written. There was no reason to change it. Maybe a word here and there. But it was the cadence. Mamet has a very specific rhythm that you canât beat.
Macy:Â I remember Bob was not good on those lines. He did close to it, but what David wrote was so much better than De Niroâs approximation of it. He was tense, or I should say intense. He understood what an important scene that was and how difficult it was.
Rosenthal:Â I remember it was the rainiest, coldest January in LA. We wanted that mansion [for Motssâ house] because it had spectacular 360-degree views of the city, and we got there, and it was socked in with fog the whole time. We literally got this because we wanted the view, and there is no view. Barry decided to just go for it and use it.
Levinson:Â It was up somewhere in the Palisades and there was a fog bank that came in. It was kind of sweeping across the property. It looked beautiful. I said, âWillie, can you get your guitar and sort of just walk in that fog bank?â He said, âWhat do you want me to do?â I said, âWell, youâre working on the âguard the American borderâ song that theyâre all going to do in Nashville.â Richardson got the cameras quickly in place and we just shot him walking around in a fog bank. I also said to him one day, if we were doing some particular scene, âIf you ever hear something that sounds like you could have it in a song, just break into song, using whatever someone might say. See what happens.â So, there was a point where Dustin was talking about some political cartoon in the paper, something about âsit on my lap.â And thatâs when Willie sang, âSit on my lap if you love me.â Those little moments that came up throughout, it was worthwhile to try things out, even though we were working under the pressure of having to shoot at that kind of pace.
Wynn Thomas (Production Designer):Â That house was owned by a business guy who did investment plans for businesses and schools and colleges and that sort of stuff. He had built this estate for him and his wife. The story I remember is that as soon as the house was finished, the wife divorced him. So, here was this man who had built this huge house and wasnât using it, which is why he allowed us to come in to shoot there.
Rosenthal: Dennis Tito. He was the first American civilian to go up into space with the Russians.
Thomas:Â The interesting thing is the house was beautifully decorated, which was helpful for us because we were on a short schedule and I didnât have the time to replace all the furniture. So, we used a lot of the existing furniture. The other interesting thing was he had this incredible house and beautiful grounds, and he only used his bedroom and the kitchen. The rest was for show.
Plakson:Â We were all expressly instructed by the ADs not to touch this spectacular, pristine grand piano sitting in the middle of the room. It reeked of never having been played. Well, at some point during the shoot, Dustin heads on over to the piano, sits down, lifts the lid, and begins to play. I sat down next to him and together we did a very soft snippet of some standard. For me, it was a scrumptious little interlude made all the sweeter because there ainât no way in hell anybody was gonna yell at Dustin Hoffman to stop touching that piano!Â
Leary:Â This is something Iâll never forget. We were hanging out. Weâve got like 20 minutes for the lighting setup. Nobodyâs going back down to the trailers, because theyâre way down at the bottom of this hill through this neighborhood. Willie comes out. Heâs got his guitar, because his character has a guitar. Now heâs just Willie Nelson. Heâs sitting there strumming and he goes, âAnything you guys want to hear?â I canât remember who said it, but somebody went, âBlue Eyes Crying in the Rain.â Thatâs one of my favorite songs of all time. Itâs nighttime and the stars are out, and he just sings and plays âBlue Eyes Crying in the Rain.â Then he gets done and heâs like, âWhat do you want to hear next?â I was just sitting there, like, âI canât fucking believe Iâm getting paid to do this.â
Rosenthal:Â Youâd sit there and go, âThereâs fucking Willie Nelson!â
Leary:Â That first day, in between shots, Dustin and Bob were standing over in a corner and I literally hear Dustin Hoffman go, âI canât believe weâre doing a scene with Willie Nelson. This is crazy.â And Bob was like, âI know. Crazy.â It doesnât go away!
Plakson:Â Listening to that exquisite, riffing loveliness played on that legendary guitar by one of the groovier gods on Mount Olympusâwell, Iâm pretty damn sure thatâs what ambrosia tastes like.
Chenoweth: Pops Staples was a whole other story. So, Pops is going to fly in. Weâve got everything all arranged. Weâve got a special trailer for him. We donât think he can drive, so weâve got someone who was going to drive him around LA and take good care of him. It was all in place. Weâre excited. Pops Staples! Legend! I go into my office and my assistant is white as a sheet. She said, âMavis Staples called and said Pops isnât coming.â I just about had a heart attack. Because he was supposed to fly that day. Ten minutes later, Pops called my office. âDonât listen to Mavis. Iâm coming.â I think she was just worried about him. Then he gets there and heâs in his trailer and he goes, âYou must have been worried about me. I donât need all this!â Merle Haggard is also in it, which you canât see that well, but he actually did a little concert, Farm Aid thing that theyâre watching on the plane.
Rosenthal: We had good music in that movie. We were talking about who could do the score and I said to Barry, âWhat about Mark Knopfler?â I was friendly with him so I called him.
Mark Knopfler (Composer): I wanted to just put together a little bit of music that would stand up by itself. In a way, the pace of it, the stripped-down thing, sort of worked. The big chest-thumping electric guitar, that comes from my immersion in a British group called The Shadows, and Ennio Morricone. Thereâs just a touch of Exodus about it, a touch of âBiblical.â Then in the heartland, my national steel guitar stuff, itâs more the folk, blues influence. And in terms of Wag the Dog, the song itself, I felt that doing it like a dance-pop thing was OK. You know, the Watusi or the Wolly Bully or the Jerk and the Flyâit was that this week and then next week it was the Hully Gully, wasnât it? Whatever it was! I was trying to make light of it, that it was something manufactured.
4. âThis is nothing! Piece of cake!â
Koechner and Williams reunited on Williamsâ podcast Harland Highway in August 2022 to reminisce about their time together on Wag the Dog. A portion of this back-and-forth is taken from that conversation.
Koechner: Iâm playing a TV director and weâre staging a scene as if it was in Albania. The first shot was a Steadicam shot, which Iâd never been part of. So, I didnât get what was happening. The camera just went away, and I didnât know I was supposed to walk along with them to stay in the shot. And also, Dustin Hoffman jumped three of my lines. I didnât know what to do!
Williams:Â And you canât say anything because itâs freakinâ Tootsie!
Koechner:Â Yeah, âYou jumped me a little bit, bro.â
Williams:Â âHey, Dusty. Roll it back a notch.â
Koechner:Â âEasy, Tootsie.â
Williams:Â I remember having trouble saying the name of the dog, because Iâd never heard of a Lhasa Apso or whatever, and itâs like trying to say âMassachusetts.â I remember Corky [Koechner] always laughing at me because I said it so stupid. And it was a mangy dog. I wanted a nicer dog.
Koechner:Â He fucking made me laugh so hard right away, the way he said it. I was like, Oh my God, I can never be this funny.
Williams:Â A lot of times when you shoot a movie, itâs this guy and this guy in the bedroom scene, and that guy and that guy in the dining-room scene. But what was cool about my spot in the movie is that almost all the cast had to be together in that warehouse and you could just see and hear everybody. It was this big, open kind of thing.Â
Chenoweth:Â Kirsten Dunst was there shooting that scene. She was probably 13, 14, something like that. Debbie and I went and watched that day.
Levinson:Â Kirsten was wonderful. That whole thing, as I rememberâunless thereâs a cut in there somewhereâitâs really one camera move. It comes into the studio and it comes around to her and sheâs talking, and then thereâs something else that gets in the way, and then it comes back to her again. Iâm pretty sure thatâs all one shot. If you can do something in one shot, I always like it if you canât quite figure out that it must have been done in one.
Williams: Dustin, he wasnât snobby or anything, but he had no reason to get chatty with me. I was a nobody. I think we were there three days, maybe, and the first day or two, he just didnât say anything to me, even though we were standing together most of the day. Then on my last day there, he brought his son. I think his son was 14 or 15 or something, and I look up, and I see them pointing at me like Invasion of the Body Snatchers from across the soundstage. Then he came running across with his son, with a starstruck look in his eye, and theyâre like, âWere you the cop in Dumb and Dumber that drank the pee?â I was like, âYep.â After that, he just wouldnât leave me alone. It was so funny. He just kept chatting and wouldnât stop talking. Then when I wrapped, he wanted to give me a big hug. It was like we were best friends. I guess everyone loves that movie. Iâm sure he probably had a good father-son experience watching it with his kid.
Thomas:Â Dustin, at some point or another, talked the guards at the White House into opening the front gate so that it would look like our actors were walking out. Initially they were walking along in front of the White House.
White: No, you canât just convince a guard at a gate at the White House to film there, whether youâre Dustin Hoffman or Tom Cruise. Thereâs too much security. What I heard was Bill Clinton came by to visit them or he was nearby and they went out to lunch. Dustin said, âWeâll get that shot at the gate at the White House,â and Clinton saidâDustin called him âBillââthat if we need anything, you know, âthe president will make it happen.â They wanted the gate to open up and they would walk out. It wasnât just, Oh, let us shoot here. Because I remember Dustin was taking credit, you know, âSee? I told you Bill would let us do it!â
Rosenthal:Â Bob actually has a picture of Dustin trying to explain what the movie is to Clinton during that lunch.
Levinson:Â I canât remember who said it, but someone mentioned that Jim Belushi is of Albanian heritage. So, we reached out to him about doing a little cameo.
Jim Belushi (âHimselfâ): David Mamet was a cohort from Chicago. I did Sexual Perversity in Chicago and I think he knew we were Albanian. At that time I didnât ever really want to play myself, you know? Iâm an actor. But the script was hysterical, so I was like, âAbsolutely.â They sent me an audiotape of the speech they wanted me to give in Albanian. The girl that did the speech on the tape was Albanian and at the end she said, âMr. Belushi, we are so very proud of you as an Albanian-American. Thank you for all that you do.â The sweetest little voice! Because there were only three famous Albanians. There was Mother Teresa, my brother John, and me. Now theyâve got a couple singers that are really good. Rita Ora, Dua Lipa. I drove up to the set and there were these television camera-like things. I was supposed to deliver my statement, but I didnât understand a word of Albanian that was on that tape, so I did pidgin Albanian. I said every Albanian word that my grandmother said to me and I put it all in a sentence. I basically used all the foul language that I had learned and stuff like, âDonât talk to me.â âYou give me a headache.â âDo you want trouble?â âShut your pie hole.â And nobody knew what I was saying! I was improvising. Real Albanians are gonna go, âWhat is he talking about?â But my favorite line was Willie Nelsonâs. âBelushi is Albanian?â He nailed it!
Levinson:Â Woody Harrelson was perfect. The way he would look at things or when he would be staring at somebody, weâd think, Holy shit, is he gonna blow up at any given moment?
Hoffman:Â My God, was he good.
Chenoweth:Â I donât remember who read that part in the table reading, but I think we just made a short wish list for this guy who was a soldier and had gone off the deep end and taken all these meds.
Woody Harrelson (âSergeant William Schumannâ):Â The thought of working with two legitimate legends, I was very excited by that prospect. But I also just loved the idea of it, because I definitely have, over the years, seen a lot of wagging the dog going on, or getting into war and justifying it by making shit up. I knew this guy had to be a little bit, shall we say, intellectually challenged. I wanted to get some teeth for him and just have a kind of weird way of talking. It was all in the spirit of fun, but I do think it worked for the piece. After the plane crash, Iâm in that big tractor or harvester between De Niro and Hoffman, and in the front is the guy whoâs the farmer. I said to him, âThereâs some people who can brag about Brando reading off their forehead, but youâve got De Niro and Hoffman reading off your back!â They had to resort to putting the script on his back because it was just so many words they had to memorize in such a short time.
De Luca: I was just having breakfast with Steve Mosko, who runs Village Roadshow. We were telling the worst horror stories, because we were colleagues at Sony once. He always quotes the scene when theyâre on the plane and the whole plan is going to crap, right before the plane crashes, and Dustin is like, âThis is nothing! Try meeting with three Italian actresses whacked out on Benzedrine and grappa and they havenât read the treatment!â I still hear that on some sets. âThis is nothing!â Itâs a great producer in-joke.
Harrelson:Â I donât think this ever made it into the movie, but we were in that store, and I was wanting to get some candy or something and I ended up scrambling on the floor. I always think in situations like this, you gotta just go for it. I do sometimes tend to go over the top and rely on the director to tell me âOK, thatâs too far,â but in this case, just because of the character, it was hard to go overboard. So, we do the scene and Barryâs like, âYeah, OK, we got that.â The time thing was always a real issue. And Iâm like, âCan I do one more?â And I remember Dustin was like, âYou go for it, buddy! You go for it!â He was psyched that Iâm asking for one more when Barry had already said he got it. Iâve thought about that many times since. He was great that way. So supportive.
Rosenthal:Â Between Willieâs trailer and Woodyâs trailer, you could get very high, just from what was going outside.
Harrelson:Â Well, I never smoked while I was working. But I did always smoke after!
Levinson: At one point it got back to me that they screened Wag the Dog at New Line when we finished it, and they were less than thrilled about the piece. The comment was, âJust what we need is some kind of fucking political comedy.â Thatâs what got back to me. Anytime youâre sort of pushing this way or that way or whatever, youâre always going to get some kind of resistance.
De Luca:Â We did think it could compete in the awards corridor.
In September of 1997, Warner Bros. announced plans to push Sphere from its planned December release to February of the following year. This left an opening for De Luca and company to complete post-production on Wag the Dog and position it for Academy Award consideration with a limited Christmas Day release.
Hoffman: I remember I knew I was not going to win the Oscar, and that was a relief when I went. When you know youâre not going to win, itâs kind of fun to go. As Good As It Gets, I remember I saw that, jealously, because I thought it was a great part. But Jack [Nicholson, who won the best-actor Oscar] was wonderful in it.
5. âFor once in my life, I wonât be pissed on. I want the credit.â
In the final weeks before the December 1997 release of Wag the Dog, the matter of screenplay credit reared its head. According to Rosenthal, Mamet sought sole credit from the Writers Guild of America (WGA), while Henkin argued that her work constituted an amount commensurate with shared credit. The guild went the extra step of awarding her first-position shared credit, and reportedly as a result, Mamet refused to attach his name to any movie for which he was not the sole writer going forward. The issue would come up the very next year with the release of John Frankenheimerâs Ronin, also starring De Niro, which ultimately carried a pen name for Mamet alongside original writer J.D. Zeik.
Levinson: I donât believe David actually read Hilaryâs script, because I said itâs not the movie I want to do, so there was no reason for him to read it. Whether he did, I donât know. We never talked about it. It was never, ever mentioned. But what Wag the Dog is, is from the mind of David Mamet.
Rosenthal:Â David would joke, you know, âhe and his writing partner who heâs never met or talked to,â because they were nominated for an Oscar together. A lot of what goes on in deals is economics. If you get sole credit, you get more money. If you get shared credit, you get additional money. But Barry was ready to resign from the WGA.
Levinson:Â Absolutely. There is no way in the world that you could read Davidâs script and look at the other draft and say that David shouldnât have first-position credit. Because that script is so different from what you see. Itâs night and day. Itâs not, like, Oh, we changed this and changed that. Itâs a different movie!
Henkin:Â I thought Mametâs work was wonderful. They did their draft and created a great film. These are exemplary filmmakers who I admire and in one instance had worked with before. There are similarities between the drafts and certainly a great many differences as well, but that kind of focus really takes away, for me, from the movie itself. Iâm happy to have the movie be what it is. I think itâs an extraordinary film and I was glad to have been a part of it.
De Luca:Â What complicated it for the WGA was they were both based on the same source material, which is something that they look at when theyâre deciding whether to give the first writer credit.
Rosenthal: Contractually, because it was the deal we made with Beinhart and his agent, we had to say, âbased on the book.â But thereâs nothing there thatâs based on the book except they create a war. And Jay Leno appears in both the book and the movie. They wanted to rerelease the book and, for the cover art, use the movie. I said, âThat doesnât make any sense. If you want to be really technical, itâs âinspired by.ââ
Beinhart:Â I saw a letter from the movie peopleâs lawyers to the publishers saying, âYou canât change the title of the book to match the title of the movie and you canât even say âa tie-in edition.ââ What it looked like to me is the publisher rolled over without a whimper. It was a really weird thing. The reason it was not protected in the contract was nobody ever gave it any thought. Back then, bookstores were still important. So, having a tie-in with movie art would have given you 10,000 or 50,000 or 100,000 little mini-posters for the movie all over the world. Refusing to do that didnât help anyone. It didnât help the movie. It didnât help the book. It didnât help me. As far as I can tell, it didnât help Mamet.
De Luca:Â I donât remember that, but what Iâm guessing happened isânot to pass the buckâbut if the filmmakers or if anyone in that group felt that since the script had nothing to do with the book, they didnât want to be associated with the book, I would have deferred to the filmmakers. And I thought the book was great. Thatâs what got us rolling. But it just wasnât the movie.
Beinhart: The stake that the publisher had in accepting the movie peopleâs refusal was this: Ballantine, the publisher of American Hero, was also the publisher of Michael Crichton, and Sphere, for them, is a much bigger deal than my book. They very much want the film companyâs cooperation on Sphere. So, rather than make mortal enemies over doing a thing with Wag the Dog, they say, âOK,â and roll over. That sequence is pure speculation, but itâs the only way that Iâve ever been able to make sense out of it.
Levinson:Â I have to hand it to David. I was so angry about it and he said, âAh, you know, whatever.â He wasnât that bothered by it. Iâm a writer. I believe itâs important for writers to be acknowledged for the work that they do. But I have never gotten over what I believe is a real injustice in that particular case. I think the Writers Guild, unfortunately, takes this kind of position at times. They can do a better job than what they have been doing over the years.
Beinhart: Eighteen years later, when American Hero had gone out of print with Ballantine and I had the rights back, I was being edited by a guy named Carl Bromley over at the small and obscure Nation Books Publishing. He said, âLetâs republish it as Wag the Dog. Fuck this. Whoâs gonna stop us?â And he did. But they made a great movie, with which I am forever associated. I had a choice of feeling all upset and fucked over or just say, you know, I got a big chunk of change. More than any book was going to pay me. Do I want to whine or enjoy it? On balance, Iâm luckier than 99.9% of writers in America.
6. âYou just feel like a hole is left in the universe.â
On August 5, 2022, Anne Heche was critically injured in a Los Angeles car accident. She died six days later. Her costars and collaborators, interviewed after her death, remember her life and legacy on the screen and off.
Zane:Â There are so many actresses with careers, but so few that are as genuinely talented and fearless as Anne Heche was. She was so reliable and yet surprising, so incredibly real and believable and funny and touching and emotional. I was really shaken by that horrible story.
Chenoweth:Â She almost had a Ros Russell kind of thing with Mametâs snappy dialogue, which couldnât just be done in a sort of throwaway way. And she was so great with those two guys. That could have been intimidating to a young actress, but she held her own. I canât think of too many who could have done it. Itâs a huge loss.
De Niro:Â She was terrific to work with. I was very, very sad to hear, to say the least, what happened to her. I liked her a lot.
Hoffman:Â I didnât know her before we started shooting, but there was a range there that I was very obsessed with. She was very believable and had great instincts and timing. I think we lost a terrific talent. I looked at the film again last night and this morning and I was just saddened by the fact that sheâs no longer with us.
Levinson:Â She was an immensely talented woman and a wonderful person.
Rosenthal:Â She was so excited about being there and she would stick around on set a lot. She would watch Bob and Dustin. And just the sound of her voice in the film, the way she would say things. Clearly smart, yet scattered.
De Luca:Â She was so unique and fresh and she played off those guys brilliantly. It felt like a Ben Hecht/Howard Hawks road comedy. They have such great chemistry.
Higgins: You see these films with these two giant towersâHeat or Dirty Rotten Scoundrels or something. Inevitably what it needs is somebody in the middle to mortar those two bricks together, and boy, she just crushed it. Iâve never seen anything like it. But her performance has a lot of variety in it, too. She had things that she could draw on that were unusual.
Harrelson: I had a great time working with her. She had a tremendous sense of humor. Women are always better than the men in a movie. I donât know why thatâs true, but Iâve always been amazed by it as a general phenomenon. Whether I was working with Juliette Lewis or Courtney Love or Demi Moore, they were always better, always more interesting. And that was certainly true of Anne. Any scene she was in, she was just so compelling. She was made for this. A great entertainer.
Cryer:Â There was something very electrical and magical about Anne. She had an enormous femininity, but because she had that kind of puckish quality, there was something about her that sort of transcended pure femininity. I know gender things are sort of tired, but that impish quality that she had really worked well. Everything always just went to men back then. Youâd read every script and it was just all men. And it really didnât change for a while after that. So, it was great that they made the part female. I think they needed that electricity. They were playing these hardened, tired, savvy guys, and she was like this sparkler. And now sheâs burned out and itâs just really sad.
Macy: Men just fell to their knees. That was the word on Anne Heche. I remember I said to my wife, Felicity [Huffman], âOh, I just booked this thing. Iâm gonna do one of Daveâs pieces, Wag the Dog. My scene is with Robert De Niro and Anne Heche.â And she said, âOh. Anne. Iâm coming to lunch.â She didnât, but thatâs the kind of power Anne had.
Martin:Â I was really taken by her. Thereâs nothing narcissistic or self-serving about the role that her character is playing. Sheâs there to help this along, to navigate the idea of how weâre going to save this president, and she really stands out. And also, because she wasnât really known, it added to the truth of the part, somebody that really was in above her head.
Leary:Â As we started rehearsals, I could see that she was a little nervous and shy. We shared a couple of concerned glances. But that didnât last long. Pretty early on in the process, on day one, she was not only up to speed but locked right in. She really was a fucking great actress.
Thomas:Â That was a big loss for me. She was just a great spirit full of love and kindness and lots of fun.
Zane:Â I find when someone dies ahead of their time, you just feel like a hole is left in the universe. I felt like that on that day, like some air got sucked out of the atmosphere.
De Luca:Â I think she is one of the main reasons the movie is entertaining and has lasted so long. When thereâs mental health issues and that level of pain and trauma, the fact that someone can still bring joy and perform and have a career in the arts while dealing with all that stuff, itâs a miracle we got the years we got, and thank God we did.
Cryer:Â The last time I saw her, we were at an Emmys party just a few years ago and we laughed and laughed and laughed over Hollywood, basically, and being a woman in Hollywood. I think it was one of the reasons that her death hit me so hard. It was just this moment at the end of the evening when weâre in these gowns and weâre just laughing until we were crying. Then we got into our cars and went our separate ways. So, when I think of Anne, I think of Anne laughing.
7. âItâs the best work Iâve ever done in my life, because itâs so honest.â
Beinhart:Â My experience was like, a real estate agent came to my house, they bought the house because they liked the view, then they knocked down the house and built their own. Which, contractually, thatâs what they were entitled to do. The question Iâm always asked is, âHow much was the film like the book?â And my standard answer is, âIt was exactly like the book. All they changed was the characters and the plot.â But the real oddity is the experience of the book and the experience of the movie are really quite identical. When I saw the movie I said, âHey, they really got it.â
De Luca:Â Iâm really proud of the filmâs legacy. Whether itâs a book or a poem or a movie or a painting, itâs amazing how storytelling can be prophetic about the culture and predict the zeitgeist. That movie was so ahead of the curve.
Belushi:Â Not long after that, Kosovo blew up. [The Kosovo War, fought between the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the rebel Albanian Kosovo Liberation Army in early 1998.]
Leary:Â It was almost like we set it up to help the movie.
Levinson:Â I remember my wife said, âThereâs news trucks outside.â Suddenly they want to talk to me about this and I went, âOh, I donât even want to get involved in all of that.â It was just one of those rare things where thereâs a collision of ideas that somehow get connected to a moment in time and stick.Â
Rosenthal: It was beyond insane because our phones were ringingâjournalists, friends, asking us, âWhat did you know?â And then it got crazier with Lewinsky in that picture. I was friendly with Arthur Sulzberger Sr., and I had dinner with him the night before that Lewinsky picture came out. We were talking about the bombing of Sudan and the stuff in the movie and âlife imitates art.â Then the next morning, when I opened my door to get my New York Times and saw that picture, I actually thought Arthur was playing a joke on me. Also, when Boris Yeltsin wrote his book, Midnight Diaries, he talks about how the filmmakers of Wag the Dog got it right. Itâs interesting now when you see it trending on Twitter because of whatever insanity.
De Niro: Even when that stuff came about, I was a little more naive about the shifting of reality and distraction. But now, of course, we see itâs more than we ever could have imagined with someone like [Donald] Trump. We got a heavy dose of every trick you could ever imagine with this guy. Itâs frightening because itâs so obvious and so childish and stupid. But people sell it, and people buy it.
Higgins: There have been many times in the past six, seven years where I have thought, Oh, we did this in Wag the Dog. We already played this scene. But Iâm a big student of US history as well, and almost every single president, certainly going back to Jeffersonâthis is baseline stuff. Itâs what they do. One scandal after another.
Knopfler:Â Itâs something you can play for a class of students in, say, a media and politics class. You could base a project or two on it, pointing to certain things that have happened. When the military invaded the Falkland Islands, they were distracting from this massive civil unrest in Argentina. They were on the verge of being ousted, and after they did this stunt, you had crowds cheering for them in Buenos Aires and kids lining up to join.
Henkin: There was a quintessential film called Tearing Down the Spanish Flag. It was just one shot and it was made in April 1898 during the Spanish-American War. It was a Spanish flag on a flagpole, and the Spanish flag is lowered and the American flag is raised in its place. It was attributed to the war, but it could have been shot in Cuba. It could have been shot in Spain. But it wasnât. It was shot in New York City. And whether William Randolph Hearstâs involvement in that war was to sell newspapers or not, the real question is: What does it mean when these images end up being shown to the general public as truth?
De Luca: When you think about Facebookâs role in the 2016 election and Cambridge Analytica, I mean, Wag the Dog was like a pipe bomb and weâve seen nuclear weapons deployed at this point.
Cryer: When youâre doing something great with very smart people, itâs like walking around the MIT campus. You think, This is where the important things are happening. Itâs palpable on set. I felt that same way when I was doing the âYada Yadaâ episode on Seinfeld. âThis is going to be huge.â Itâs so exciting to be part of something where you really, really feel it.
Nelson: I think itâs timeless. I really do. It reminds me a lot of Being There, in a way. It had some of the same qualities. I think the approach was such that it uncovered a lot of, I guess, the hypocrisy, and at the same time, the comedy in that. So, itâs going to remain.
Richardson:Â The film could have been made last month. It has not aged. The humor and the politics are tied seamlessly to history as we are experiencing it now.
Macy: Dave somehow sees into the future. I think the dangerâand I think Wag the Dog gets thisâis not that we will be manipulated, because ever since Homo sapiens first organized themselves, thereâs been manipulation of the events and the message, and there always will be. I think the big danger is if we lose faith in any information, that all the news is fake. Thatâs a horseshit proposition.
Hoffman:Â Itâs one of those movies that, whether Iâm in it or not, I like it more each time I see it. Iâve often said that if a movie makes you cry, it usually makes you cry every time you see it, and if it makes you laugh, it makes you laugh every time you see it. This made me laugh as if it was the first time. Barry called it a satire, and it certainly is. But I also think itâs a farce, which I guess means you go as far as you can and get away with it.
Rosenthal:Â Certainly, talking about it in 2022âwe had the same kind of skepticism then, but just so much has come true that itâs not to even be believed. You just sort of wonder sometimes, Is satire dead? Would you ever be able to do a political satire again?
These interviews have been edited and condensed for clarity.
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