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This is like the scene in Close Encounters of the Third Kind where an obsessive Richard Dreyfuss carves Devils Tower out of mashed potatoes:

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I’m sure a lot of Democratic insiders have been thinking, “Well, if Biden has a really bad Senior Moment, we can just dump him and replace him with a tested leader in his prime, like, say, Andrew Cuomo.”

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  1. That mountain is comprised of the dead bodies of New York’s senior citizens.

    Tragic dirt.

    •�Replies: @Thirdtwin
    @wren

    Yep. Cuomo’s mass grave. “Grandfill”, if you will.
    , @Prester John
    @wren

    The largest single group of people over 70 years of age who died from the Covid in NY State were nursing home patients. All because of Koomo. But, hey, he reduced the surplus population. To make an omelette, ya gotta break a few eggs. A quintessential demokrat.
  2. •�Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Clifford Brown

    Cliff, that was a cliff-hanger! I mean, I don't want a pool floatie, a money-machine piggy bank, or that kitty brush, even at those low, low, Bob Barker-era prices, but I was on the edge of my seat, nonetheless. Whewww!
  3. It has seemed like quite a few people we know have been obsessed with this thing.

    I am always amazed at the stupid ways politicians and communicators of every kind try to make concepts understandable to a majority that can’t grasp things like Cartesian graphs, rates of change, or much of anything besides “food, car, job, poop, sex,” (not necessarily in that order).

    A novelist once told me that to be a successful writer, whatever you put out has to be about the four Fs: Fighting, Fleeing, Feeding, and Fucking.

    •�Replies: @Kyle
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I don’t think governor Cuomo or his team can grasp Cartesian coordinates. Someone on his team can and it started off as a great idea to visualize “the curve.” But a critical mass of his team are idiots. Something got lost in translation. The love-gov is left hung out to dry with a creepy foam science fair project sputtering an incoherent sound byte, “You don’t want to climb this mountain.” I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. It’s only a 30 second video clip. Maybe watching the full version he would explain what the x and y axis represents. But no, he’s kinda just rambling out sound bytes. The same ones repeatedly. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aRUqkQ5NL08
    If I were his speech writer I would say something like this.
    “Day zero was this date. This date is significant because it’s the day we realized that this virus was widespread & deadly. On day zero I implemented policy X. Spread of the virus accelerated and then plateaued on day 42, because of the policy I implemented and because New Yorkers were following proper CDC guidelines. As you can see day 42 saw the highest single day number of deaths. That was the peak of the mountain. The number of deaths then tapered out between day 42 and day 111. The total number of deaths is equal to the area under the curve, which is ∫ f(x) from day 1 to day 111. Essentially taking the number of deaths on each individual day and adding them all together. As you can see people are still dying on day 111. The number of deaths is not back down to zero, which means the virus is still spreading. We can’t afford to let our guard down; continue to follow CDC guidelines. If you don’t we will climb this mountain again and a lot more people will die. You don’t want to climb this mountain again.”

    That’s got to be close to what Cuomo’s speech writer originally had written. It’s the only thing that makes sense. But he’s just a divvy. He has no stage presence, he can’t think on his feet. He doesn’t practice his speeches in front of the mirror the night before. These are our leaders.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  4. I was watching a news conference with Cuomo the other day and noticed his crazy suntan. His father had a dark complexion so it’s entirely possible it’s natural. But if not, between Cuomo and Trump, why do NY politicians love their fake looking tans?

    •�Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @NJ Transit Commuter


    I was watching a news conference with Cuomo the other day and noticed his crazy suntan. His father had a dark complexion so it’s entirely possible it’s natural. But if not, between Cuomo and Trump, why do NY politicians love their fake looking tans?
    My surmise is that if you're frequently photographed in public, you're probably somewhat conscious of what the photos that get published look like. Politicians and the celebrities in New York probably get a lot more impromptu photographs taken of them than politicians in some out of the way State Capitol in a smaller state. Pasty and pale often photographs poorly.

    Politicians in the sunbelt, the Southwest, or California have the opportunity to have an easy, sun-kissed glow year round. This is much less the case for politicians in the Northeast. So the latter probably have to resort to artificial means to achieve a photograph-ready appearance.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Charlotte
    , @njguy73
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    For three decades New Yorkers were fascinated by the media-friendly exploits of a real estate tycoon with unusually-colored skin. His name escapes me.
  5. I sprouted cheap coffee all over my keyboard.

    Scientists trying to communicate with the music-emitting Mothership:

    > “white lives matter, too”
    > “white lives matter, too”
    (silence)
    > “white lives matter, too”
    (long silence)
    < "YA THINK?"
    (all the windows are blasted out)

    •�Replies: @Thirdtwin
    @El Dato

    “white lives matter, too”
    > “white lives matter, too”
    Dies irae
    > “white lives matter, too”
    Dies irae
  6. Italian American Grandma lays down the law. All it takes is for a few normal people to stand up to them. The revolution only works because good and decent Americans are staying indoors creating the illusion of a popular mass movement. It is a simulated revolution.

    •�Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Clifford Brown


    Italian American Grandma lays down the law.
    At this point, I would be totally happy to have Italian American Grandmas running the country.

    Replies: @SFG
    , @NJ Transit Commuter
    @Clifford Brown

    From a psychological point of view this clip is fascinating. The young protester in the American U. shirt is willing to be tough and obscene at first. But, as soon as his bluff is called, you can see him and the other protesters wilt and deflate. These protesters are bullies, and standing up to bullies has always been the best way to shut them up. This should be a lesson for politicians, police and others on how to stop vandalism and the other violent protests.

    Gotta love Italian American New Yorkers. They have always known how to stand up to counter cultural punks.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=erL2czOyNoc

    Replies: @ChrisZ, @Carol
    , @Goddard
    @Clifford Brown


    All it takes is for a few normal people to stand up to them. The revolution only works because good and decent Americans are staying indoors ...
    I'd like to see more Americans get leaner and meaner like this grandma. Enough of this flabby, smiley-faced, fake niceness.
    , @res
    @Clifford Brown

    Thanks. I think the video following that is even better.

    https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1277372267945738240

    Replies: @anon, @Clyde
    , @syonredux
    @Clifford Brown

    If that's what a grandma can do........

    A Savonarola can quell and scatter a mob of lynchers with a mere glance of his eye: so can a Merrill or a Beloat. For no mob has any sand in the presence of a man known to be splendidly brave. Besides, a lynching mob would like to be scattered, for of a certainty there are never ten men in it who would not prefer to be somewhere else--and would be, if they but had the courage to go. When I was a boy I saw a brave gentleman deride and insult a mob and drive it away; and afterward, in Nevada, I saw a noted desperado make two hundred men sit still, with the house burning under them, until he gave them permission to retire.
    -Mark Twain
    , @J.Ross
    @Clifford Brown

    An over-confident and unopposed minority of crazy people with foreign support is how the Soviet Union happened.
  7. OT: CHOP/CHAZ

    If Seattle really thought Black Lives Matter, it would shut down CHOP chaos

    Over the past three weeks, however, four black men have been shot – two of them fatally. The latest incident happened in the early hours of Monday, and claimed the life of a 16-year-old African-American male, while a 14-year-old is in the hospital in critical condition, according to the Seattle PD. The white Jeep Cherokee [that’s not a cheap car] they were in was found riddled with bullets on 12 Avenue between Pike and Pine – just outside the East Precinct.

    Chief Best said the crime scene had been tampered with, and that police had no luck interviewing witnesses as “people are not being cooperative with our requests for help.”

    Had Floyd not dropped fentanyl, all of that could have been avoided.

    “It’s very unfortunate that we have another murder in this area identified as the CHOP,” Chief Best said Monday, according to Seattle’s KOMO radio. “Two African-American men… dead at a place where they claim to be working for Black Lives Matter but they’re gone. They’re dead now.”

    Bring in the Wolf.

    •�Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @El Dato

    El, the Mayor of Seattle said they were..."Going to have a Summer of love." Apparently, four shot, two dead, is tough love.

    Replies: @LittleNano
    , @Thoughts
    @El Dato

    Somehow all these liberal policies keep getting black men killed.

    One would be tempted to think that's the point of them.
  8. PS why would dems ever want to dump Biden before the election? The plan is to dump him right afterward.

    •�Agree: Haole, bruce county
    •�Replies: @Barnard
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    The thought was they would dump Biden because his dementia would cause him to lose to Trump. Now that Trump has made a total mess of the riots they are much less worried about that.

    Replies: @Zach
    , @bruce county
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    He will die in office. Then Abrams will rule over her new African Kingdom. The Uganda State of America.
  9. @Clifford Brown
    Italian American Grandma lays down the law. All it takes is for a few normal people to stand up to them. The revolution only works because good and decent Americans are staying indoors creating the illusion of a popular mass movement. It is a simulated revolution.

    https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1277371107612528647

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @NJ Transit Commuter, @Goddard, @res, @syonredux, @J.Ross

    Italian American Grandma lays down the law.

    At this point, I would be totally happy to have Italian American Grandmas running the country.

    •�Agree: RadicalCenter
    •�Replies: @SFG
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    That technically describes Nancy Pelosi.

    She's a bit of a holdover from another era, though--the urban machine Italian-American Democrat. She's been very good at shifting with the winds.
  10. Cuomo did an excellent job according to most people

    The problem with the virus is whites not social distancing and not using masks

    •�Troll: El Dato
    •�Replies: @Corvinus
    @Greg Geed

    "Cuomo did an excellent job according to most people. The problem with the virus is whites not social distancing and not using masks."

    Not just whites, but an increasing number of Americans, as evident by the spikes in Arizona, Texas, and Florida. The governors there are Republicans. But do not expect Mr. Sailer to offer that sort of NOTICING.

    Replies: @DCThrowback, @Daniel Williams, @anon
    , @No Recent Commenting History
    @Greg Geed

    Cuomo did an excellent job according to most people tiny ducks

    Especially those in nursing homes, they're just dying to vote for him again!
  11. Cuomo has got a sign language dude on the right. More and more I see this simultaneous sign language stuff. Is this for real? Does anybody understand this stuff? Tell us that we are not being conned.

    Whatever, it’s probably a good market for certified sign language emoters right now. One of the few trades that has a very steep growth curve.

    •�Replies: @tyrone
    @Daniel H

    Fav of all time,the guy at Mandela's funeral.
    , @Jim Christian
    @Daniel H

    The ugly, dopey looking signers are for equally dopey deaf folks who don't know how to turn on closed captioning.
  12. … we can just dump him and replace him with a tested leader in his prime, like, say, Andrew Cuomo.”

    What? And miss out on being led to the DIE promised land by President Abrams?

  13. This is like the scene in Close Encounters of the Third Kind where an obsessive Richard Dreyfuss carves Devils Tower out of mashed potatoes:

    This means something…………………………………….

    ………………………….oh, that’s right. It means you killed thousands of people in New York’s nursing homes.

    I remember that grinning gargoyle, Cuomo, holding forth during one of his press conferences in late March, saying “My mother isn’t expendable. You’re mother isn’t expendable. Nobody is expendable.” Then, long about May, after the policy vis-a-vis sending infected recovering COVID patients back into nursing homes came out, Cuomo was saying, in effect “Hey, people die. It happens. Move on.”

  14. Man, I thought DeWine was bad!

  15. @Clifford Brown
    Italian American Grandma lays down the law. All it takes is for a few normal people to stand up to them. The revolution only works because good and decent Americans are staying indoors creating the illusion of a popular mass movement. It is a simulated revolution.

    https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1277371107612528647

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @NJ Transit Commuter, @Goddard, @res, @syonredux, @J.Ross

    From a psychological point of view this clip is fascinating. The young protester in the American U. shirt is willing to be tough and obscene at first. But, as soon as his bluff is called, you can see him and the other protesters wilt and deflate. These protesters are bullies, and standing up to bullies has always been the best way to shut them up. This should be a lesson for politicians, police and others on how to stop vandalism and the other violent protests.

    Gotta love Italian American New Yorkers. They have always known how to stand up to counter cultural punks.

    •�Agree: RadicalCenter
    •�Replies: @ChrisZ
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    You're right of course, Commuter. That this has gone on for a month now is unconscionable; a show of force or even resolve would have stopped it. The blacks are mostly in it now for fun and games, and after day two would have gleefully gone home to enjoy their stolen booty. The white "street fighters" look like they're overwhelmingly p*ssies (as you note about the kid in the video); once exposed to real violence against them they would have dropped the LARPing and gone back to the security of their video games. In my suburban town (from which I too commute) the "demonstrations" are filled with teenage girls and their moms. None of it could be called, or feared as, a revolutionary vanguard.

    But our supposed authorities are in the psychological position of the Soviet leadership of the late 1980s: they are completely cynical and have zero confidence in, or even affection for, the system they sit atop. So why bother defending it?

    Deep down, I think they know they're just bending over to vandals and losers, and they loath themselves for what that says about their own weakness. So they're lashing out symbolically at what they fantasize as the "real" bad guys: traditional, law-abiding Americans. Their pathetic gesture is a danger, however, because they really do wield power to ruin lives and wreck the system for everyone.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @James O'Meara
    , @Carol
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    She gets away with this because she's a little old lady. The day is coming when they knock her down and kick her in the head til her IQ is as low as Floyd's was.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @res, @Kratoklastes
  16. That shot reminded me of the science project Mountain volcano where a cup of baking soda and a cup of vinegar produced the Mount Saint Helens volcano. I really thought he would unveil that as an additional prop for a depiction of HIS problems, of which I care little. By the way that mountain looks like a sixth grader made it in newsprint paper mache, likely the NYT.

  17. OT: Why don’t more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn’t fat make for better breeders?

    •�Replies: @SFG
    @Anon

    Men prefer slender to skeletal.

    Thing is (a) fashion is heavily run by gay men (b) fat these days means really, really, fat, which carries its own issues.
    , @Anon
    @Anon

    One thing I learned after moving to Japan: In a land of thin women you never have the "fat or pregnant" doubt. Twenty pounds of pregnant looks completely different from twenty pounds of fat. Also, young, thin women, in their twenties, can just have a baby and be back to normal instantly. It's almost as if women weren't designed to leave their reproductive systems up on blocks in the garage for a couple of decades and then expect them to work perfectly.
    , @AnotherDad
    @Anon


    OT: Why don’t more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn’t fat make for better breeders?
    Men naturally prefer women whose bodies say:

    "There's space for your baby here, and i'll be able bring it to term and feed it."

    and most desirably

    "No one has put a baby here before. (I have no existing babies to look after and will devote myself to yours.)"

    Replies: @JimB, @Achmed E. Newman, @anon, @MBlanc46
    , @Anonymous Jew
    @Anon

    Because, from an evolutionary standpoint, being Western-level “fat” is unnatural and therefore unattractive. (See hunter-gathers: even with an abundant food supply you can’t get fat eating only deer, kale and the occasional in-season wild fruit).

    Men don’t like model-skinny either. I imagine it looks even worse in person. The modeling and entertainment industry skews heavily gay, so you get thin women with masculine features and bodies (ie big jaws and small hips). As an example, Google Gisele Bundchen and her sister. The former “super model” looks like a tranny (big jaw, small hips) while the aforementioned normal Bundchen looks like a regular attractive woman (small feminine features and child bearing hips).

    I think the non-brainwashed preference has to be for evolutionarily normal female body fat levels (20-30%) and feminine facial features and physique. Not anorexic tranny or artificially fattened up on Twinkies and McDonalds.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Chrisnonymous
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Anon


    OT: Why don’t more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn’t fat make for better breeders?
    Statistically speaking, most American men are stuck with someone generously proportioned whether they prefer that or not.

    My surmise here is that there are probably evolutionary or evo-psych explanations for what men like in terms of women's body types. Thin women are probably acceptable as potential mothers if either your society is well established without frequent periods of deprivation, or your society is transient and the women have to be ready to move distances over land by foot. Anything between these two extremes probably favors some fat stores in the hips and breasts.

    Of course, there is a vast difference between women who are naturally curvy and what the female self esteem movement (i.e., the Press) tells women is "curvy." Christina Hendricks in Mad Men is curvy. Most of the rest are "curvy." One curve you really ought not have is a bulging gut, which at a certain point yields a single "curve" forming the figure of a sphere with a fat face protruding from it. Outside of paraphilia, I don't think "curvy" is something that men prefer, although they may be stuck with it.

    Apparently people have purported to study the female body types depicted/favored in media and correlated them with social and political climates. Long story short, these people believe that men prefer bustier, more full figures in times of uncertainty (i.e., the ramp up of the Cold War) but prefer a more slender, elegant figure in times of peace and plenty.

    Replies: @anon
    , @Anonymous
    @Anon

    Alden, why go anon? We can tell it's you.
    , @jsm
    @Anon

    No, not beyond a certain level.

    Women who are fat in childbearing years often have PCOS as the cause. PCOS interferes with ovulation. Good insulin levels are necessary for general health and fertility, which PCOS sufferers tend to have excessive insulin.

    And, women in childbearing years who are fat, beyond a certain level, for reasons besides PCOS, also have fertility problems, because fat of itself makes estrogen. Excess estrogen interferes with FSH, so again, difficulty with ovulation.

    Ideal fat levels for childbearing are 20-30 percent of weight is body fat.
    , @nebulafox
    @Anon

    What most men actually like in real life and what a fashion industry dominated by "camp" homosexual men says most men like can diverge wildly. I can count the number of men I've met who find bulimics attractive on one hand: they exist, but so do men who like women who are twice their weight. We're wired to be attracted to women precisely *because* they are different, not hard and angular like us.

    That does not translate into finding obesity attractive, but for a large amount of American men, it's either a fat woman or no woman at all. There's no analogue with "too-thin" women demographically. Mind, it's not as if American men are doing themselves any favors. Slovenly appearances and obesity in the US are agnostic to sex, as is the general lack of focus on becoming a good partner rather than obsessing over getting one.

    (I have noticed that it does revolve heavily around class status, though. Being in shape is increasingly a wealth indicator.)
  18. Lloyd George said about Churchill: “Poor Winston, his steering gear is weaker than his horsepower.” I think this describes Cuomo. And Dr.Fauci. Maybe it’s just the N.Y accent that gives one horsepower in a national emergency.

    •�Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @SafeNow

    Churchill always found Lloyd George in their interpersonal struggles for dominance to be his master, with Churchill relegated to playing second fiddle to Lloyd George.
  19. Did this really happen, or is this photoshopped? Governor Andrew Cuomo seems to be standing beside a pile of substance that reaches over his head, and that seems to represent data in three dimensions. The time axis goes from left to right, but what does the axis perpendicular to the screen represent? What is this large hill made of? (And what is its volume?) Who built it, and at what expense? After the press conference, what will happen to this “hill of beans”? And who is paying for the ASL signer in the lower right of the screen? Does the governor think that deaf people don’t know about the captioning option that they can turn on on their TV sets?

    All this effort and expense conveys no more information than does a squiggle of ink on a two-dimensional graph.

    •�Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)


    Did this really happen, or is this photoshopped?... Who built it, and at what expense? ...
    The grey color and the jagged countours do make it look like a low-res 3-d graph that's been photoshopped in.

    https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2020/06/29/andrew-cuomo-unveils-foam-mountain-visualize-nys-coivd-19-fight/3278852001/

    The mountain was made in house by Cuomo's staff, according to Dani Lever, the governor's communications director. The paint and materials cost $185; Cuomo's political campaign reimbursed the state for the costs, according to Lever.

    , @ben tillman
    @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)


    The time axis goes from left to right, but what does the axis perpendicular to the screen represent?
    I'm wondering the same thing.
  20. Close Encounters of the Third Kind – You’re gonna love it, Ronnie!

    Devil’s Tower I

    •�Replies: @El Dato
    @MEH 0910

    Has there ever been a movie that displayed a big conspiracy by the Military-Scientific complex like here? Getting a whole region evacuated under pretext of a "chemweapon incident" certainly is a rich idea. (And where are the politicians in this story??)

    Replies: @Kronos, @Ray P
    , @Intelligent Dasein
    @MEH 0910

    Steve-o-sphere in a nutshell:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuMOKYTs9U

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anon
  21. Anonymous[146] •�Disclaimer says:

    NY Gov. Cuomo unveils a mountain sculpture

    Speaking of, did you know that Trump is holding a White Supremacist Rally at Mt Rushmore next week? The Democrats know.

    http://archive.is/ows8u

    The Democrats thought better of that tweet once some blowback began, but the Internet is Forever.

    A site sacred to the Lakota was not only blown up, but it was designed by a member of the Ku Klux Klan in honor of presidents that all supported & perpetuated Indigenous genocide.And folks wanna say calling Mt Rushmore racist is a bridge too far. https://t.co/nKPbarTrNd
    — Rebecca Nagle (@rebeccanagle) June 26, 2020

    •�Replies: @Faraday's Bobcat
    @Anonymous


    A site sacred to the Lakota was not only blown up, but it was designed by a member of the Ku Klux Klan in honor of presidents that all supported & perpetuated Indigenous genocide.And folks wanna say calling Mt Rushmore racist is a bridge too far. https://t.co/nKPbarTrNd
    — Rebecca Nagle (@rebeccanagle) June 26, 2020
    A Klansman who carved a huge picture of Lincoln? Weird.
  22. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    Did this really happen, or is this photoshopped? Governor Andrew Cuomo seems to be standing beside a pile of substance that reaches over his head, and that seems to represent data in three dimensions. The time axis goes from left to right, but what does the axis perpendicular to the screen represent? What is this large hill made of? (And what is its volume?) Who built it, and at what expense? After the press conference, what will happen to this "hill of beans"? And who is paying for the ASL signer in the lower right of the screen? Does the governor think that deaf people don't know about the captioning option that they can turn on on their TV sets?

    All this effort and expense conveys no more information than does a squiggle of ink on a two-dimensional graph.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @ben tillman

    Did this really happen, or is this photoshopped?… Who built it, and at what expense? …

    The grey color and the jagged countours do make it look like a low-res 3-d graph that’s been photoshopped in.

    https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/politics/albany/2020/06/29/andrew-cuomo-unveils-foam-mountain-visualize-nys-coivd-19-fight/3278852001/

    The mountain was made in house by Cuomo’s staff, according to Dani Lever, the governor’s communications director. The paint and materials cost $185; Cuomo’s political campaign reimbursed the state for the costs, according to Lever.

  23. robot says: •�Website

    OT: What if the ultimate way out of these race riots is to figure out simpler explanations for everything, so IQs over 120 can be ignored as wasteful? Eg, organic chemistry is soon going to get much simpler as we successfully animate all enzymes’ mechanisms. Being able to just zoom in visually instead of having to master abstractions will mean even stupid people will start to get it (imagine cell bio translated into a funky rap).

    •�Replies: @El Dato
    @robot

    Unfortunately there are no "simpler explanations for everything"

    Being able to just zoom in visually instead of having to master abstractions
    You can zoom in on an equation in QM all you want, it's not helping.

    The understanding comes from internalizing a description of a machine that you can then manipulate in your head and that gives you expected answers (which then need to be checked against reality).

    Watching CGI animations does not do that.

    A lot what is on paper cannot even be visually represented at all. 1000 dimensions? Nah.
  24. @SafeNow
    Lloyd George said about Churchill: “Poor Winston, his steering gear is weaker than his horsepower.” I think this describes Cuomo. And Dr.Fauci. Maybe it’s just the N.Y accent that gives one horsepower in a national emergency.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Churchill always found Lloyd George in their interpersonal struggles for dominance to be his master, with Churchill relegated to playing second fiddle to Lloyd George.

  25. @robot
    OT: What if the ultimate way out of these race riots is to figure out simpler explanations for everything, so IQs over 120 can be ignored as wasteful? Eg, organic chemistry is soon going to get much simpler as we successfully animate all enzymes' mechanisms. Being able to just zoom in visually instead of having to master abstractions will mean even stupid people will start to get it (imagine cell bio translated into a funky rap).

    Replies: @El Dato

    Unfortunately there are no “simpler explanations for everything”

    Being able to just zoom in visually instead of having to master abstractions

    You can zoom in on an equation in QM all you want, it’s not helping.

    The understanding comes from internalizing a description of a machine that you can then manipulate in your head and that gives you expected answers (which then need to be checked against reality).

    Watching CGI animations does not do that.

    A lot what is on paper cannot even be visually represented at all. 1000 dimensions? Nah.

    •�Agree: Kyle
  26. @MEH 0910
    Close Encounters of the Third Kind - You're gonna love it, Ronnie!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT8vuM0OUh4

    Devil's Tower I
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezQ2UouoHDU

    https://alethakuschan.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/dreyfus-without-the-mashed-potatoes.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato, @Intelligent Dasein

    Has there ever been a movie that displayed a big conspiracy by the Military-Scientific complex like here? Getting a whole region evacuated under pretext of a “chemweapon incident” certainly is a rich idea. (And where are the politicians in this story??)

    •�Replies: @Kronos
    @El Dato

    I believe the films “Resident Evil 2” and “Andromeda Strain” fit the bill. I believe there are others.


    https://youtu.be/nzF3yoF7N_E

    https://youtu.be/YMbSpnlOOtE
    , @Ray P
    @El Dato

    "They started something they can't stop."
    "It's madness unleashed by human error. The Crazies."

    George Romero in 1973 had a handle on the future:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyHyp7hmmsA
  27. @Anon
    OT: Why don't more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn't fat make for better breeders?

    Replies: @SFG, @Anon, @AnotherDad, @Anonymous Jew, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Anonymous, @jsm, @nebulafox

    Men prefer slender to skeletal.

    Thing is (a) fashion is heavily run by gay men (b) fat these days means really, really, fat, which carries its own issues.

    •�Agree: RadicalCenter
  28. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Clifford Brown


    Italian American Grandma lays down the law.
    At this point, I would be totally happy to have Italian American Grandmas running the country.

    Replies: @SFG

    That technically describes Nancy Pelosi.

    She’s a bit of a holdover from another era, though–the urban machine Italian-American Democrat. She’s been very good at shifting with the winds.

  29. Kyle says:

    I understand that the x axis represents days. Days since when? What’s the date of day zero and what is it’s significance? What day is day 42? And what is the y axis. What actually is the peak of the mountain, what does that represent. Is that sars-cov-2 infections, covid-19 cases, or deaths possibly? And what the heck is the Z axis? Why is the mountain 3D, what could the z component of the curve possibly represent? Or is that just a texture added to make the curve look like what it is; a giant load of BS. If I was the governor of New York I would spend 60 seconds looking at the graph and figure out how I’m going to explain to the people what they are lookin at. This dude is an idiot. Idiocracy; rule by idiot.

    •�Agree: ben tillman
  30. @Daniel H
    Cuomo has got a sign language dude on the right. More and more I see this simultaneous sign language stuff. Is this for real? Does anybody understand this stuff? Tell us that we are not being conned.

    Whatever, it's probably a good market for certified sign language emoters right now. One of the few trades that has a very steep growth curve.

    Replies: @tyrone, @Jim Christian

    Fav of all time,the guy at Mandela’s funeral.

    •�Agree: Kyle
    •�LOL: ben tillman
  31. Good luck with getting rid of Biden……not gonna happen…..he’s just what the dems and left want (a marionette)….if he wins Jill will be right there like an old mother hen.

  32. anonymous[400] •�Disclaimer says:

    It appears his ineptness killed many people yet he’s still out there blabbering away. It’s not funny anymore. He and others such as DeBlasio, the rioters and looters have all become disgusting figures in American life. Cuomo has no shame.

    •�Replies: @Known Fact
    @anonymous

    Cuomo never seems to have any charts, graphs or dungpiles showing NY's hike in crime and unemployment
  33. My peeve with Cuomo is he holds his news conferences midday and gives the Covid numbers for his state based on the numbers at that time. E.G. yesterday he said there were only 6 or 8 new covid deaths for the day but 12 would in fact die on 6/29. They just died AFTER Cuomo’s news conference.

    I’m glad New York has gotten its infection and fatality rate down. Took much too long but to hear him claim victory is a bit like hearing the Governor General of Poland claiming Warsaw was now Jew free without mentioning that the Jews were all dead and that he had had then killed! Cuomo presided over the greatest pandemic in a century and at its peak all he could do was demand Trump fix it for him!

  34. •�Replies: @the one they call Desanex
    @Kyle

    Andrew Mark Cuomo = A cow-mound marker
  35. Looks like that pile of dinosaur crap from Jurassic park.

  36. @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    PS why would dems ever want to dump Biden before the election? The plan is to dump him right afterward.

    Replies: @Barnard, @bruce county

    The thought was they would dump Biden because his dementia would cause him to lose to Trump. Now that Trump has made a total mess of the riots they are much less worried about that.

    •�Replies: @Zach
    @Barnard

    The riots are on blue state mayors and governors who preferred giving Trump the finger to accepting his help. What did Jenny Durkan and Bill de Blasio do to cool things off in their cities? Well, de Blasio sent his kids out to protest against the police.
  37. @NJ Transit Commuter
    @Clifford Brown

    From a psychological point of view this clip is fascinating. The young protester in the American U. shirt is willing to be tough and obscene at first. But, as soon as his bluff is called, you can see him and the other protesters wilt and deflate. These protesters are bullies, and standing up to bullies has always been the best way to shut them up. This should be a lesson for politicians, police and others on how to stop vandalism and the other violent protests.

    Gotta love Italian American New Yorkers. They have always known how to stand up to counter cultural punks.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=erL2czOyNoc

    Replies: @ChrisZ, @Carol

    You’re right of course, Commuter. That this has gone on for a month now is unconscionable; a show of force or even resolve would have stopped it. The blacks are mostly in it now for fun and games, and after day two would have gleefully gone home to enjoy their stolen booty. The white “street fighters” look like they’re overwhelmingly p*ssies (as you note about the kid in the video); once exposed to real violence against them they would have dropped the LARPing and gone back to the security of their video games. In my suburban town (from which I too commute) the “demonstrations” are filled with teenage girls and their moms. None of it could be called, or feared as, a revolutionary vanguard.

    But our supposed authorities are in the psychological position of the Soviet leadership of the late 1980s: they are completely cynical and have zero confidence in, or even affection for, the system they sit atop. So why bother defending it?

    Deep down, I think they know they’re just bending over to vandals and losers, and they loath themselves for what that says about their own weakness. So they’re lashing out symbolically at what they fantasize as the “real” bad guys: traditional, law-abiding Americans. Their pathetic gesture is a danger, however, because they really do wield power to ruin lives and wreck the system for everyone.

    •�Replies: @Corvinus
    @ChrisZ

    "But our supposed authorities are in the psychological position of the Soviet leadership of the late 1980s..."

    With Trump taking it to whole another level. But do not expect our resident pattern recognizer to offer his take on such matters.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53231840

    Replies: @peterike, @anon, @botazefa, @Alexander Turok, @Stack Over Glow
    , @James O'Meara
    @ChrisZ

    Anyone not destroyed by the mob, will be destroyed by the "authorities" lashing out at "the real danger", i.e., White people.
  38. @Greg Geed
    Cuomo did an excellent job according to most people

    The problem with the virus is whites not social distancing and not using masks

    Replies: @Corvinus, @No Recent Commenting History

    “Cuomo did an excellent job according to most people. The problem with the virus is whites not social distancing and not using masks.”

    Not just whites, but an increasing number of Americans, as evident by the spikes in Arizona, Texas, and Florida. The governors there are Republicans. But do not expect Mr. Sailer to offer that sort of NOTICING.

    •�Troll: peterike
    •�Replies: @DCThrowback
    @Corvinus

    I used to think you served a purpose, but lately it is clear you do not. Your commentary decline has been noticeable.

    A rise in cases driven by a rise in testing (i.e., anyone who walks into a hospital) has not been accompanied by a similar rise in deaths, thus proving that COVID is only deadly to those who are old, infirmed or someone suffering from something else (perhaps along w/ COVID). In addition, over 45% of COVID deaths in the US are from people in long term healthcare facilities. These numbers were juiced by the (D) governors of NE states like NJ, NY and PA moving patients post-COVID back into those facilities. You tell me whether that was just being stupid or evil. Either way, it should be permanently disqualifying for higher office.

    These (R) governors are choosing to listen to enemy propaganda rather than their own correct intuition, and, as a result, are curtailing the freedoms of their people and delaying their own states' economic recovery. This is not hard for any intelligent person to see. Substituting contrarianism for argument is not just for Monty Python skits.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Alexander Turok, @Polynikes, @Corvinus
    , @Daniel Williams
    @Corvinus


    ... an increasing number of Americans, as evident by the spikes in Arizona, Texas, and Florida.
    Isn’t it crazy how it’s happening in those particular, electorally significant states? Almost seems ... ginned up.

    Replies: @Corvinus
    , @anon
    @Corvinus


    Not just whites, but an increasing number of Americans, as evident by the spikes in Arizona, Texas, and Florida. The governors there are Republicans. But do not expect Mr. Sailer to offer that sort of NOTICING.
    What I noticed, Corvinus, is that the BLM riots and looting over many weeks were the biggest super-spreader event imaginable, occurring nation-wide.
    Deplorable blacks and groveling whites are responsible for the increase in Covid, not the law-abiding whites who stayed at home to guard their property with good old American fire arms.
  39. @NJ Transit Commuter
    @Clifford Brown

    From a psychological point of view this clip is fascinating. The young protester in the American U. shirt is willing to be tough and obscene at first. But, as soon as his bluff is called, you can see him and the other protesters wilt and deflate. These protesters are bullies, and standing up to bullies has always been the best way to shut them up. This should be a lesson for politicians, police and others on how to stop vandalism and the other violent protests.

    Gotta love Italian American New Yorkers. They have always known how to stand up to counter cultural punks.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=erL2czOyNoc

    Replies: @ChrisZ, @Carol

    She gets away with this because she’s a little old lady. The day is coming when they knock her down and kick her in the head til her IQ is as low as Floyd’s was.

    •�Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Carol

    Carol, that day that you say is coming is here, right now. You can easily find a video of a 92 year old white women being knocked unconscious by a black ex con and then try "Looters beat Rochester woman with 2x4s when she asks them to stop breaking into her store." All fun and games for the punks.
    , @res
    @Carol

    Did you notice the man just behind to her right? Take a look (and listen) around 0:47. You get a better view of him at 1:12 in the red tank top. It seems clear they would have regretted it if they had tried anything of the sort.

    The "little old lady with muscle nearby" approach seems effective. Perhaps a good lesson to learn.

    That said, you make a good point. It is important to know your audience. Not sure I'd try that with other demographics.
    , @Kratoklastes
    @Carol

    My thoughts exactly: she is relying on the people observing social norms like "Don't kick the fuck out of old women who mouth off". She's 'brave' because she knows that society is still intact.

    There were very few old women upbraiding people in Podrinje or Bratunak (or, later, central Srebrenica) or in Sniper Alley in Sarajevo.

    All these folk bleating about the current puerile nonsense, need to pull their fucking heads out of their asses and examine what it looks like on the ground when "Don't kick the fuck out of old women who mouth off" is actually completely off the table.

    Then examine the situation leading up to periods where that happens - and notice that the final lurch to societal collapse is easy to spot, and the conditions for that are entirely absent in the current US bullshit (which is largely carried out by a campaign of microaggressions on Twitter, and some damage to statuary).

    The whole thing is barely more aggressive than the average snit between gay dudes over interior design.
  40. @ChrisZ
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    You're right of course, Commuter. That this has gone on for a month now is unconscionable; a show of force or even resolve would have stopped it. The blacks are mostly in it now for fun and games, and after day two would have gleefully gone home to enjoy their stolen booty. The white "street fighters" look like they're overwhelmingly p*ssies (as you note about the kid in the video); once exposed to real violence against them they would have dropped the LARPing and gone back to the security of their video games. In my suburban town (from which I too commute) the "demonstrations" are filled with teenage girls and their moms. None of it could be called, or feared as, a revolutionary vanguard.

    But our supposed authorities are in the psychological position of the Soviet leadership of the late 1980s: they are completely cynical and have zero confidence in, or even affection for, the system they sit atop. So why bother defending it?

    Deep down, I think they know they're just bending over to vandals and losers, and they loath themselves for what that says about their own weakness. So they're lashing out symbolically at what they fantasize as the "real" bad guys: traditional, law-abiding Americans. Their pathetic gesture is a danger, however, because they really do wield power to ruin lives and wreck the system for everyone.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @James O'Meara

    “But our supposed authorities are in the psychological position of the Soviet leadership of the late 1980s…”

    With Trump taking it to whole another level. But do not expect our resident pattern recognizer to offer his take on such matters.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53231840

    •�Replies: @peterike
    @Corvinus

    Poor Corvinus. He takes "unnamed sources" from the NY Times and WaPo to be arbiters of truth. No wonder he's such a dolt.

    Replies: @Corvinus
    , @anon
    @Corvinus


    " But do not expect our resident pattern recognizer to offer his take on such matters. "
    Says the troll who is constantly BTFO'd in the comments and doesn't have the intellect to get his own blog.

    Replies: @Stack Over Glow
    , @botazefa
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus, you should apply to be an on air personality with the Today show on NBC.

    What you're saying is exactly what Savannah Guthrie was reading off her teleprompter this morning.

    There is no second wave, just testing centers finally hitting their stride on the Federal government dime.

    The arrogance of people who think they can stop a variant of the common cold astonishes me.

    Replies: @anon, @Alexander Turok, @Corvinus
    , @Alexander Turok
    @Corvinus

    Considering the "intelligence community's" record over the past few decades, when they say they aren't sure about something, well...
    , @Stack Over Glow
    @Corvinus

    Stick to attacking Trump on COVID-19. Not many of us have trust in the deep-state peep-state creep-state system.
  41. @wren
    That mountain is comprised of the dead bodies of New York's senior citizens.

    Tragic dirt.

    Replies: @Thirdtwin, @Prester John

    Yep. Cuomo’s mass grave. “Grandfill”, if you will.

  42. @Clifford Brown
    Italian American Grandma lays down the law. All it takes is for a few normal people to stand up to them. The revolution only works because good and decent Americans are staying indoors creating the illusion of a popular mass movement. It is a simulated revolution.

    https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1277371107612528647

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @NJ Transit Commuter, @Goddard, @res, @syonredux, @J.Ross

    All it takes is for a few normal people to stand up to them. The revolution only works because good and decent Americans are staying indoors …

    I’d like to see more Americans get leaner and meaner like this grandma. Enough of this flabby, smiley-faced, fake niceness.

  43. @El Dato
    I sprouted cheap coffee all over my keyboard.

    Scientists trying to communicate with the music-emitting Mothership:

    > "white lives matter, too"
    > "white lives matter, too"
    (silence)
    > "white lives matter, too"
    (long silence)
    < "YA THINK?"
    (all the windows are blasted out)

    Replies: @Thirdtwin

    “white lives matter, too”
    > “white lives matter, too”
    Dies irae
    > “white lives matter, too”
    Dies irae

  44. @Daniel H
    Cuomo has got a sign language dude on the right. More and more I see this simultaneous sign language stuff. Is this for real? Does anybody understand this stuff? Tell us that we are not being conned.

    Whatever, it's probably a good market for certified sign language emoters right now. One of the few trades that has a very steep growth curve.

    Replies: @tyrone, @Jim Christian

    The ugly, dopey looking signers are for equally dopey deaf folks who don’t know how to turn on closed captioning.

  45. @MEH 0910
    Close Encounters of the Third Kind - You're gonna love it, Ronnie!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT8vuM0OUh4

    Devil's Tower I
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezQ2UouoHDU

    https://alethakuschan.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/dreyfus-without-the-mashed-potatoes.jpg

    Replies: @El Dato, @Intelligent Dasein

    Steve-o-sphere in a nutshell:

    •�Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I once was standing in line behind Valerie Jackson at the Kinko's: in person, she talks exactly like she did on TV, only more so.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910
    , @anon
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Where have I seen that guy in the video before?

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Screenshot-2019-10-03-19.47.57.png

    Replies: @Ray P
  46. @Anonymous

    NY Gov. Cuomo unveils a mountain sculpture
    Speaking of, did you know that Trump is holding a White Supremacist Rally at Mt Rushmore next week? The Democrats know.

    http://archive.is/ows8u

    The Democrats thought better of that tweet once some blowback began, but the Internet is Forever.


    A site sacred to the Lakota was not only blown up, but it was designed by a member of the Ku Klux Klan in honor of presidents that all supported & perpetuated Indigenous genocide.And folks wanna say calling Mt Rushmore racist is a bridge too far. https://t.co/nKPbarTrNd
    — Rebecca Nagle (@rebeccanagle) June 26, 2020

    Replies: @Faraday's Bobcat

    A site sacred to the Lakota was not only blown up, but it was designed by a member of the Ku Klux Klan in honor of presidents that all supported & perpetuated Indigenous genocide.And folks wanna say calling Mt Rushmore racist is a bridge too far. https://t.co/nKPbarTrNd
    — Rebecca Nagle (@rebeccanagle) June 26, 2020

    A Klansman who carved a huge picture of Lincoln? Weird.

  47. Anon[646] •�Disclaimer says:

    OT

    A black architect in Madison, Wisconsin, has decided to fight racial disparities in the architecture industry … by resigning his job as an architect … to operate architecture race and equity camps for kids and consult with architecture firms on race and equity.

    https://madison.com/ct/news/local/education/local_schools/hip-hop-architect-michael-ford-leaves-firm-hopes-to-help-diversify-profession/article_5be57f58-3495-5478-9191-e46ca5975db3.html

    I think there may be more to this than meets the eye. The guy was hired partly because he brought with him a supposed contract to build a hip-hop museum in the Bronx. But his name seems to have disappeared from recent information about the museum.

    I also see online that his official title at the firm upon hire was “architectural associate,” which in its most common usage means that the employee has not passed the licensing exams and is not a member of the AIA.

    I also see that architecture requires more math than I had thought (“calculus, physics, statics, and general structures”) and the ability to crunch numbers in your head. And the life is apparently not that sexy for all but those at the very top. You make very detailed plans that cannot contain errors and you need to juggle various legal building requirements in your head.

    On the other hand, hustling for new business is an important skill in the field.

    Except for the last item, it seems like a profession that might not be ideal for black career seekers, which could explain the racial disparities.

    By the way, architecture was declared a STEM subject a couple of years ago by Congress, which may have more to do with immigration scams and funding of trade schools than reality. Some sorts of economics were also moved into the STEM category several years ago to facilitate more foreign grad students in universities.

    •�Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    Architecture is a bad career choice except for trust-funders.

    Replies: @Deepysix, @Ancient Briton
    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Anon

    SixFourSix, a lot of what they call architecture is design engineering. So, if you are designing a coal fired steam power house, the first set of prints are the "Architecturals." Then a shit house of "associates" are assigned different phases, you design the foundation including concrete and rebar, Steve designs the structural steel, Reg designs the process piping, Art gets the electrical and so on. All of this is the then handed off to detailers who draw the rebar prints and detail the connections for the structural steel, draw the piping, size and type for the water, steam etc. Lots of boring work, and you always find mistakes.
    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Anon

    This post is hilarious to me because I spent two years in a pre-architecture program in the late 90s.

    Even back then it was taught as a junction of art, humanities, and social work.

    My fellow students lacked knowledge of anything technical, even basics like drafting standards.
  48. @wren
    That mountain is comprised of the dead bodies of New York's senior citizens.

    Tragic dirt.

    Replies: @Thirdtwin, @Prester John

    The largest single group of people over 70 years of age who died from the Covid in NY State were nursing home patients. All because of Koomo. But, hey, he reduced the surplus population. To make an omelette, ya gotta break a few eggs. A quintessential demokrat.

  49. @Corvinus
    @Greg Geed

    "Cuomo did an excellent job according to most people. The problem with the virus is whites not social distancing and not using masks."

    Not just whites, but an increasing number of Americans, as evident by the spikes in Arizona, Texas, and Florida. The governors there are Republicans. But do not expect Mr. Sailer to offer that sort of NOTICING.

    Replies: @DCThrowback, @Daniel Williams, @anon

    I used to think you served a purpose, but lately it is clear you do not. Your commentary decline has been noticeable.

    A rise in cases driven by a rise in testing (i.e., anyone who walks into a hospital) has not been accompanied by a similar rise in deaths, thus proving that COVID is only deadly to those who are old, infirmed or someone suffering from something else (perhaps along w/ COVID). In addition, over 45% of COVID deaths in the US are from people in long term healthcare facilities. These numbers were juiced by the (D) governors of NE states like NJ, NY and PA moving patients post-COVID back into those facilities. You tell me whether that was just being stupid or evil. Either way, it should be permanently disqualifying for higher office.

    These (R) governors are choosing to listen to enemy propaganda rather than their own correct intuition, and, as a result, are curtailing the freedoms of their people and delaying their own states’ economic recovery. This is not hard for any intelligent person to see. Substituting contrarianism for argument is not just for Monty Python skits.

    •�Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @DCThrowback

    Yeah, I agree, at least I think so.

    The argument that more testing is leading to higher statistics without the epidemic actually getting worse is confusing.

    It seems to me that what we don't know is why people are being tested who are asymptomatic? And what is the ratio of positive to negative tests?

    And when they test positive does this mean that they have Covid 19 with no symptoms but are able to spread it or does it just mean that they are pre-symptomatic and about to develop symptoms and enter a more contagious phase when they will spread it by coughing?

    To me it makes no sense to be tested if you are asymptomatic, because if you test negative there is no knowing whether you might test positive the next day.

    So to make sense of it we need to know what percentage of people who are being tested are symptomatic and what percentage of people are not symptomatic. And we don't have that information. Maybe President Trump and the governors do, but we don't.

    Replies: @Lars Porsena, @AnotherDad, @ben tillman, @Corvinus, @Polynikes
    , @Alexander Turok
    @DCThrowback

    The fact that you think policy decisions about a pandemic should be made on "intuition" tells me all I need to know about how intelligent you really are.

    https://alexanderturok.wordpress.com/2020/06/30/corona-the-basic-question/
    , @Polynikes
    @DCThrowback

    The R govs are listening to polling that shows Rs struggling with the +65 group because the media successfully scared the shit out of them.
    , @Corvinus
    @DCThrowback

    "A rise in cases driven by a rise in testing (i.e., anyone who walks into a hospital) has not been accompanied by a similar rise in deaths..."

    There is nuance here you should consider.

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/06/models-show-rising-us-covid-19-cases-deaths-months-ahead

    "thus proving that COVID is only deadly to those who are old, infirmed or someone suffering from something else (perhaps along w/ COVID)."

    Half of the new COVID-19 cases detected in recent weeks have been in adults under 35, Vice President Mike Pence said today during a press conference held by the White House coronavirus task force—the first press conference by the group in nearly 2 months.

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/06/covid-19-cases-among-us-young-adults-spike

    "These numbers were juiced by the (D) governors of NE states like NJ, NY and PA moving patients post-COVID back into those facilities."

    Sources?

    "These (R) governors are choosing to listen to enemy propaganda rather than their own correct intuition..."

    Are you implying that the advice of health care professionals constitutes "enemy propaganda"?

    "as a result, are curtailing the freedoms of their people"

    In a health care emergency of national and international standing, there will be decisions made to ensure the safety of citizens. It's called being responsive to the general welfare of the people.
  50. @Corvinus
    @Greg Geed

    "Cuomo did an excellent job according to most people. The problem with the virus is whites not social distancing and not using masks."

    Not just whites, but an increasing number of Americans, as evident by the spikes in Arizona, Texas, and Florida. The governors there are Republicans. But do not expect Mr. Sailer to offer that sort of NOTICING.

    Replies: @DCThrowback, @Daniel Williams, @anon

    … an increasing number of Americans, as evident by the spikes in Arizona, Texas, and Florida.

    Isn’t it crazy how it’s happening in those particular, electorally significant states? Almost seems … ginned up.

    •�Replies: @Corvinus
    @Daniel Williams

    "Isn’t it crazy how it’s happening in those particular, electorally significant states?"

    When those states opened up too early and now are dialing it back, yes, it is crazy.

    "Almost seems … ginned up."

    Not in the slightest.
  51. Altai [AKA "Altai_2"] says:

    OT: BBC accidentally describes how China has gone woke on the West but, obviously not itself. (Has anyone, even in the Trump admin mentioned that a province of Sichuan with a large Tibetan population has had education in the Tibetan language banned post lockdown? https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/04/23/bitter-blow-tibetan-mother-tongue-education)

    Also, the BBC has a ‘Gender and identity correspondent’.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-53208274

    ‘How George Floyd’s death changed my Chinese students’

    It’s starts strong with things that definitely happened in the 90s and 2000s. Why do all the rare racist incidents happen to just a few people? It’s like how UFOs keep appearing to the same guys… I mean, it’s not like a person like her would stay in the deep south. Why not move to New York? Chicago? Atlanta? Why this premise that she needed to move to China.

    As an African American woman in the Deep South, Jasmine knew the value assigned to her.

    When she was a child and she played outside by the oak trees, men would speed their vehicles towards her, swerving just in time to miss her, laughter booming out of their truck windows.

    When she was at high school, working part-time at the checkout of her local Walmart, a customer yelled at her for no reason.

    “Did you see his ring?” Jasmine’s boss asked.

    “No?”

    “It’s a Klan ring. He is a member of the Ku Klux Klan,” her boss said. “But don’t worry, I have your back.”

    The racism Jasmine grew up with on the border of Mississippi and New Orleans was raw, and unhidden.

    The racism she has experienced in China, a country where 91% of the population are Han Chinese, stems from naivety and ignorance, she says.

    *Note: The implication that ethnic hate only comes from homogeneity when infact the opposite is true. Also, will the other 9% get mentioned?

    In Guangzhou, Jasmine has been teaching English literature and language to students aged 14 to 16. Keen to discuss black history with them, she nonetheless made a decision to steer clear of stories about slavery to begin with.

    “If your introduction to a group of people is slavery, then what happens is there’s this development of a paradigm that these people are weak,” she says.

    So she started with the story of Mansa Musa, the Malian Emperor who was said to be the richest man of the Middle Ages. The literature of the transatlantic slave trade was only one horrific part of the black story, she told them. Not the beginning and certainly not the end.

    Most of the students took in what Jasmine was saying and asked pertinent questions. But some resisted.

    They queried her stories about African wealth and civilisation. They also took issue with the autobiography of African American anti-slavery writer Frederick Douglass, who fought back against a farmer who whipped him, ran away to Massachusetts and became a writer and orator. It felt like fiction, one student said. Another asked if a white teacher could come along to corroborate what Jasmine was teaching them.

    *The children naturally wonder if the teacher who is an outspoken nationalist is telling them the whole truth about her ethnicity’s history. They realise she is trying to push an agenda rather than just teach them (Badly, like all Western English teachers in China due to a low proficiency in their students first language) English. Also a sad display of Chinese values and obsession with wealth and status, she thinks showing them that the man who may have been one of the individually richest of the middle ages was black will make them empathise with modern blacks more. Sad, that made me sad.

    There was also a student who wrote Jasmine a letter saying she would prefer a white teacher. She couldn’t understand how black people could demand equality, she added, they needed to earn it.

    *Again, the new Chinese world is gunna be one of great universalism and empathy.
    ….
    When the students returned to school after China’s lockdown ended in April there was a tangible shift. Jasmine had been teaching the same students for nearly two years, and it was clear that something was playing on their minds. They quickly let her know there was something they wanted to talk about.

    “Have you heard of Ahmaud Arbery, miss?”

    Of course, Jasmine had been following the news of the African American jogger who had been pursued and shot by a white father and son.

    “Wait, how have you guys heard about Ahmaud Arbery?”

    “It’s awful. It’s terrible,” they replied.

    “Yes,” Jasmine replied, “it is terrible.”

    Her students had read all about it online. They couldn’t believe that a man could be killed just for going for a run.

    Jasmine arranged a conversation so that they could talk about it in class.

    Then on 25 May, news of the killing of another black man in America – this time in the form of a graphic eight-minute 46-second video – reached Jasmine’s classroom.

    The same group approached her again.

    What happened to George Floyd was so disturbing that it had got them thinking about anti-black influences in their own upbringing, they said.

    Awkwardly, they began confessing that their families had talked about black people being of lower intellect, and dangerous. It’s against Chinese culture to go against what your parents believe, but here they were witnessing a seismic global moment.

    *So the same students who held little esteem for blacks for being low status now hold them in esteem in empathy for their low status? Does that make sense? Or did the Chinese government and nationalistic Chinese (All of them?) promote these stories online in their conflict with the US and particularly in trying to regain the moral high ground after the corona-coverup?

    “Am I going to believe what I’ve been told by my parents, who have had almost no interactions with black people?” they said, addressing Jasmine. “Or am I going to believe what I am seeing on a phone, and in front of me with you?”

    *What have you seen that makes you think differently? I’m confused.

    So moved was one pupil with that message that he went home to write a poem about George Floyd.

    “The young generation is not going to stand for this,” he wrote. “The revolution starts with us.”

    *The article mentions she moved to Guangzhou. But it’s never mentioned despite it seemingly being very important. Otherwise the opinions of these Chinese students don’t matter, there are no black people for them to theoretically oppress. But in Guangzhou… No mention of the tens of thousands of West African ‘hustlers’ (Read: Nuisance spivs) who aren’t treated very politely by the police at all. Or maybe the police wouldn’t need to be so aggressive if they didn’t protect each other en masse from deportation raids. I wonder what her students opinions on all that is?

  52. Does anyone ever ask Cuomo why he’s never wearing a mask?

  53. The thing about Cuomo’s bullshit story about “New York came together blah blah blah” is that the curve he represents with his grade-school mountain is the same curve of every flu virus in history, is the same curve that would have happened had New York not shut down anything, and is the same curve that would have happened even if New York’s shutdown had been more draconian and destructive.

    Flus — it’s what they do!

    Total cause mortality will spike this year largely due to shutdown-induced deaths. The actual Covid deaths (a number impossible to obtain accurately due to huge and deliberate fudging of the numbers) are likely to be that of a bad flu year. Deaths could have been greatly reduced had the media and D’s not treated HCQ like it was administering cyanide (Trump would have saved thousands with his typically excellent hunches, but Orange Man Bad and all that).

    Bottom line months into this charade: it’s just the flu, bro.

    •�Agree: Redman, Kyle
  54. @Anon
    OT

    A black architect in Madison, Wisconsin, has decided to fight racial disparities in the architecture industry ... by resigning his job as an architect ... to operate architecture race and equity camps for kids and consult with architecture firms on race and equity.

    https://madison.com/ct/news/local/education/local_schools/hip-hop-architect-michael-ford-leaves-firm-hopes-to-help-diversify-profession/article_5be57f58-3495-5478-9191-e46ca5975db3.html

    I think there may be more to this than meets the eye. The guy was hired partly because he brought with him a supposed contract to build a hip-hop museum in the Bronx. But his name seems to have disappeared from recent information about the museum.

    I also see online that his official title at the firm upon hire was "architectural associate," which in its most common usage means that the employee has not passed the licensing exams and is not a member of the AIA.

    I also see that architecture requires more math than I had thought ("calculus, physics, statics, and general structures") and the ability to crunch numbers in your head. And the life is apparently not that sexy for all but those at the very top. You make very detailed plans that cannot contain errors and you need to juggle various legal building requirements in your head.

    On the other hand, hustling for new business is an important skill in the field.

    Except for the last item, it seems like a profession that might not be ideal for black career seekers, which could explain the racial disparities.

    By the way, architecture was declared a STEM subject a couple of years ago by Congress, which may have more to do with immigration scams and funding of trade schools than reality. Some sorts of economics were also moved into the STEM category several years ago to facilitate more foreign grad students in universities.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Buffalo Joe, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Architecture is a bad career choice except for trust-funders.

    •�Replies: @Deepysix
    @Steve Sailer

    “Architecture is a bad career choice except for trust-funders.”

    People who can get through Archtitecture School are eminently employable.

    Obviously, Architecture jobs in which you get to design and build the next 333-storey Fantasy Tower in Dubai are rare, but all of the Architecture majors I have known are super smart and employed doing important things. Nary a trust-funder nor a dilettante among them.

    I get your point though about the trust fund/ architecture nexus. I knew a trust fund guy who pretended he was some sort of Architect (a lá George Costanza).

    He was not well liked.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @res
    , @Ancient Briton
    @Steve Sailer

    Somebody should tell George Costanzo quickly.
  55. @Corvinus
    @ChrisZ

    "But our supposed authorities are in the psychological position of the Soviet leadership of the late 1980s..."

    With Trump taking it to whole another level. But do not expect our resident pattern recognizer to offer his take on such matters.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53231840

    Replies: @peterike, @anon, @botazefa, @Alexander Turok, @Stack Over Glow

    Poor Corvinus. He takes “unnamed sources” from the NY Times and WaPo to be arbiters of truth. No wonder he’s such a dolt.

    •�Agree: res, William Badwhite
    •�Replies: @Corvinus
    @peterike

    "He takes “unnamed sources” from the NY Times and WaPo to be arbiters of truth"

    The intelligence was considered significant and credible enough that it was included in the President’s Daily Brief. It is a collection of the most significant analysis on issues affecting national security and foreign policy. Leading Republican lawmakers confirmed its contents. Trump lied about NOT viewing it. Now why would he other than tell the truth here? I get it, though. Your deep affection for Trump clouds your judgement.

    Replies: @Peterike
  56. @Intelligent Dasein
    @MEH 0910

    Steve-o-sphere in a nutshell:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuMOKYTs9U

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anon

    I once was standing in line behind Valerie Jackson at the Kinko’s: in person, she talks exactly like she did on TV, only more so.

    •�Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Steve Sailer

    Victoria Jackson.

    Victoria (Stereo) (2019 - Remaster)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_tqqqoNbSs
    , @MEH 0910
    @Steve Sailer

    Hot off the RedLetterMedia press:

    UHF - re:View
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcFlmIR02Uw

    Jay and Josh talk about the only feature film vehicle for Weird Al Yankovic
  57. @anonymous
    It appears his ineptness killed many people yet he's still out there blabbering away. It's not funny anymore. He and others such as DeBlasio, the rioters and looters have all become disgusting figures in American life. Cuomo has no shame.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    Cuomo never seems to have any charts, graphs or dungpiles showing NY’s hike in crime and unemployment

    •�LOL: usNthem
  58. @NJ Transit Commuter
    I was watching a news conference with Cuomo the other day and noticed his crazy suntan. His father had a dark complexion so it’s entirely possible it’s natural. But if not, between Cuomo and Trump, why do NY politicians love their fake looking tans?

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @njguy73

    I was watching a news conference with Cuomo the other day and noticed his crazy suntan. His father had a dark complexion so it’s entirely possible it’s natural. But if not, between Cuomo and Trump, why do NY politicians love their fake looking tans?

    My surmise is that if you’re frequently photographed in public, you’re probably somewhat conscious of what the photos that get published look like. Politicians and the celebrities in New York probably get a lot more impromptu photographs taken of them than politicians in some out of the way State Capitol in a smaller state. Pasty and pale often photographs poorly.

    Politicians in the sunbelt, the Southwest, or California have the opportunity to have an easy, sun-kissed glow year round. This is much less the case for politicians in the Northeast. So the latter probably have to resort to artificial means to achieve a photograph-ready appearance.

    •�Replies: @Known Fact
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Cuomo is well known to get out and have fun on weekends -- zipping around in his fast car and enjoying the great outdoors. He's not shut in poring over policy papers, and that's fine unless he joins other Dems in shaming Trump for playing a little golf.
    , @Charlotte
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    The photograph angle is plausible. Bronzed skin tends to look better on film. There’s an association of tanned skin (at in males) with athleticism and aggression, too.
  59. OT: For all those people around here who love to talk about Trump “losing it” and various other figments of their imagination, read this piece. Trump is more on the ball than all of Congress put together. The problem is he is fighting almost alone.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/trump-is-right.php

    Interesting comment:

    In response to a question on whether he expects to soon be banned by Twitter — where he has over 82 million followers — Trump said: “Yes, I do.” The president believes the ban from the popular platform will happen in the fall before the 2020 election, an opinion shared by others in the White House.

    I’m about 99% certain myself that this will happen.

    •�Replies: @res
    @peterike

    Good article. Thank you.

    This caught my eye.

    “Some people say I should join Parler,” Trump said. “Maybe. We do have over 194 million followers, though, across multiple sites.”
    If he did it right he could help their uptake immensely. Imagine the message: "If you want to hear banned thoughts from your president then go to parler.com."

    P.S. But this bit from the comments should give everyone pause.

    And this is why I shan't join Parler:

    "14. You agree to defend and indemnify Parler, as well as any of its officers, directors, employees, and agents, from and against any and all claims, actions, damages, obligations, losses, liabilities, costs or debt, and expenses (including but not limited to all attorneys fees) arising from or relating to your access to and use of the Services. Parler will have the right to conduct its own defense, at your expense, in any action or proceeding covered by this indemnity."

    https://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/06/parler-is-trap.html#comment-form
    [Emphasis added]
    , @Sandmich
    @peterike

    Those normies there are some flavor of hopeless. "I love black people, it's the democrats destroying America that I hate!". Yeah, guess what black people hear: that you hate their politics and their own vision of what America should be. They need to get their head out of their tail, our current situation isn't due to a lack of effort in training blacks and browns on the glories of Adam Smith.
  60. Victoria Jackson, as an unapologetic Christian was marginalized by Hollywood. Her voice didn’t help.

    •�Replies: @Redman
    @Deepysix

    Her voice was great. Speak for yourself.

    Replies: @Deepysix
  61. @El Dato
    OT: CHOP/CHAZ

    If Seattle really thought Black Lives Matter, it would shut down CHOP chaos

    Over the past three weeks, however, four black men have been shot – two of them fatally. The latest incident happened in the early hours of Monday, and claimed the life of a 16-year-old African-American male, while a 14-year-old is in the hospital in critical condition, according to the Seattle PD. The white Jeep Cherokee [that's not a cheap car] they were in was found riddled with bullets on 12 Avenue between Pike and Pine – just outside the East Precinct.

    Chief Best said the crime scene had been tampered with, and that police had no luck interviewing witnesses as “people are not being cooperative with our requests for help.”
    Had Floyd not dropped fentanyl, all of that could have been avoided.

    “It's very unfortunate that we have another murder in this area identified as the CHOP,” Chief Best said Monday, according to Seattle’s KOMO radio. “Two African-American men… dead at a place where they claim to be working for Black Lives Matter but they're gone. They're dead now.”
    Bring in the Wolf.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Thoughts

    El, the Mayor of Seattle said they were…”Going to have a Summer of love.” Apparently, four shot, two dead, is tough love.

    •�Replies: @LittleNano
    @Buffalo Joe

    Well, you hurt the ones you love.
  62. @Clifford Brown
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWEGNe104To

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Cliff, that was a cliff-hanger! I mean, I don’t want a pool floatie, a money-machine piggy bank, or that kitty brush, even at those low, low, Bob Barker-era prices, but I was on the edge of my seat, nonetheless. Whewww!

  63. @Clifford Brown
    Italian American Grandma lays down the law. All it takes is for a few normal people to stand up to them. The revolution only works because good and decent Americans are staying indoors creating the illusion of a popular mass movement. It is a simulated revolution.

    https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1277371107612528647

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @NJ Transit Commuter, @Goddard, @res, @syonredux, @J.Ross

    Thanks. I think the video following that is even better.

    •�Replies: @anon
    @res


    “This is not about race anymore. It never really was. This is about taking apart the fabric of America.”
    ... which is based on race. All of those statues and monuments had one thing in common: they're all of white men, or at least that's what the crowd thinks. Conservatives -- The Daily Caller in this case -- are worthless. They lie and deflect constantly in order to defend liberalism. There is an obvious racial component here. Have none of these people seen the graffiti painted on these monuments? Black Lives Matter, White Supremacy, 1609 ... x countless other slogans. The many stories covered here on this blog and elsewhere make it plain as day, so stop fooling yourselves with happy talk. Blacks, social climbing POC, and SJW whites (who've been brainwashed to hate themselves by the education establishment) have torn down our society with a blatantly racial motivation in mind. They've said it directly.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes
    , @Clyde
    @res

    Bingo on the second video which I have seen before. She is very well spoken. "This is not about race. It never really was."

    Replies: @Dan Hayes
  64. @Carol
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    She gets away with this because she's a little old lady. The day is coming when they knock her down and kick her in the head til her IQ is as low as Floyd's was.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @res, @Kratoklastes

    Carol, that day that you say is coming is here, right now. You can easily find a video of a 92 year old white women being knocked unconscious by a black ex con and then try “Looters beat Rochester woman with 2x4s when she asks them to stop breaking into her store.” All fun and games for the punks.

  65. Steve, that was a very funny post! I do remember that mashed potatoes scene. These kinds of scenes, along with pretty much every Sopranos episode, make me hungry. Was there a plug for instant mashed potatoes in that scene? Even if not, these bastards and their subliminal bullcrap… positively Orwellian.

    Oh, I did think you were going to make some comment about middle-school science fair projects. Everyone wants to do the volcano thing, but I forget the chemical you burn at the bottom. Back in my high school days, it would have been just one simple M-80. The resulting hearing loss of the judges makes it hard for anyone to get proper ribbons, which fits in well with our everyone’s-a-winner Educational methods of today.

  66. @Anon
    OT

    A black architect in Madison, Wisconsin, has decided to fight racial disparities in the architecture industry ... by resigning his job as an architect ... to operate architecture race and equity camps for kids and consult with architecture firms on race and equity.

    https://madison.com/ct/news/local/education/local_schools/hip-hop-architect-michael-ford-leaves-firm-hopes-to-help-diversify-profession/article_5be57f58-3495-5478-9191-e46ca5975db3.html

    I think there may be more to this than meets the eye. The guy was hired partly because he brought with him a supposed contract to build a hip-hop museum in the Bronx. But his name seems to have disappeared from recent information about the museum.

    I also see online that his official title at the firm upon hire was "architectural associate," which in its most common usage means that the employee has not passed the licensing exams and is not a member of the AIA.

    I also see that architecture requires more math than I had thought ("calculus, physics, statics, and general structures") and the ability to crunch numbers in your head. And the life is apparently not that sexy for all but those at the very top. You make very detailed plans that cannot contain errors and you need to juggle various legal building requirements in your head.

    On the other hand, hustling for new business is an important skill in the field.

    Except for the last item, it seems like a profession that might not be ideal for black career seekers, which could explain the racial disparities.

    By the way, architecture was declared a STEM subject a couple of years ago by Congress, which may have more to do with immigration scams and funding of trade schools than reality. Some sorts of economics were also moved into the STEM category several years ago to facilitate more foreign grad students in universities.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Buffalo Joe, @The Wild Geese Howard

    SixFourSix, a lot of what they call architecture is design engineering. So, if you are designing a coal fired steam power house, the first set of prints are the “Architecturals.” Then a shit house of “associates” are assigned different phases, you design the foundation including concrete and rebar, Steve designs the structural steel, Reg designs the process piping, Art gets the electrical and so on. All of this is the then handed off to detailers who draw the rebar prints and detail the connections for the structural steel, draw the piping, size and type for the water, steam etc. Lots of boring work, and you always find mistakes.

  67. @DCThrowback
    @Corvinus

    I used to think you served a purpose, but lately it is clear you do not. Your commentary decline has been noticeable.

    A rise in cases driven by a rise in testing (i.e., anyone who walks into a hospital) has not been accompanied by a similar rise in deaths, thus proving that COVID is only deadly to those who are old, infirmed or someone suffering from something else (perhaps along w/ COVID). In addition, over 45% of COVID deaths in the US are from people in long term healthcare facilities. These numbers were juiced by the (D) governors of NE states like NJ, NY and PA moving patients post-COVID back into those facilities. You tell me whether that was just being stupid or evil. Either way, it should be permanently disqualifying for higher office.

    These (R) governors are choosing to listen to enemy propaganda rather than their own correct intuition, and, as a result, are curtailing the freedoms of their people and delaying their own states' economic recovery. This is not hard for any intelligent person to see. Substituting contrarianism for argument is not just for Monty Python skits.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Alexander Turok, @Polynikes, @Corvinus

    Yeah, I agree, at least I think so.

    The argument that more testing is leading to higher statistics without the epidemic actually getting worse is confusing.

    It seems to me that what we don’t know is why people are being tested who are asymptomatic? And what is the ratio of positive to negative tests?

    And when they test positive does this mean that they have Covid 19 with no symptoms but are able to spread it or does it just mean that they are pre-symptomatic and about to develop symptoms and enter a more contagious phase when they will spread it by coughing?

    To me it makes no sense to be tested if you are asymptomatic, because if you test negative there is no knowing whether you might test positive the next day.

    So to make sense of it we need to know what percentage of people who are being tested are symptomatic and what percentage of people are not symptomatic. And we don’t have that information. Maybe President Trump and the governors do, but we don’t.

    •�Replies: @Lars Porsena
    @Jonathan Mason

    # of tests per million people:
    https://i.ibb.co/rGDLSdW/testmil.png

    % of tests that are positive:
    https://i.ibb.co/bPkJGHp/percentpos.png

    And when they test positive does this mean that they have Covid 19 with no symptoms but are able to spread it or does it just mean that they are pre-symptomatic
    Could be either asymp, presymp, or symp. A positive test is just a positive test.

    It's basically just a flu. I can't believe people are trying to do this again. The worst of it was 4-5 months ago now and the death rate has been declining ever since. Adjusted for population it will not hit 1968 flu levels of fatalities in the US.
    , @AnotherDad
    @Jonathan Mason


    It seems to me that what we don’t know is why people are being tested who are asymptomatic? And what is the ratio of positive to negative tests?
    Because they realize they've been in contact with someone who has had it.

    My neighbor's son was partying a UCF. The next week he wasn't feeling well and then heard one of the guys he was with was Xi+. So he got tested and was Xi+. But also been hanging out with his church youth group a few days after hanging out with this guy... so all those kids had to go get tested.

    Turned out what what making him feel bad was he'd picked up strep. But this kicked off a round of testing.

    It turns out young people are more social--especially after being locked up all spring--and can spread a virus. Who knew?
    , @ben tillman
    @Jonathan Mason


    It seems to me that what we don’t know is why people are being tested who are asymptomatic? And what is the ratio of positive to negative tests?
    Here's what I read on Twitter yesterday from a senior executive of a Texas ER chain: It's largely employer-driven. Emp0loyee at work coughs or sneezes, employer sends employee to be tested. So not asymptomatic but mildly symptomatic. If they test positive they get a steroid shot and perhaps some antibiotics, and they're asymptomatic a few days later.

    Replies: @Corvinus
    , @Corvinus
    @Jonathan Mason

    "So to make sense of it we need to know what percentage of people who are being tested are symptomatic and what percentage of people are not symptomatic. And we don’t have that information."

    It seems to me that we do have that information.

    https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/06/01/asymptomatic-patients

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200612172208

    https://www.thecut.com/2020/06/how-many-people-with-the-coronavirus-are-asymptomatic.html

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    , @Polynikes
    @Jonathan Mason

    Couple reasons:

    - Hospitals are testing everyone

    - So are other institutions

    - Positive people get retested every day and counted as new positive cases

    - In some cases anti-body results are being mixed in with viral results
  68. res says:
    @Carol
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    She gets away with this because she's a little old lady. The day is coming when they knock her down and kick her in the head til her IQ is as low as Floyd's was.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @res, @Kratoklastes

    Did you notice the man just behind to her right? Take a look (and listen) around 0:47. You get a better view of him at 1:12 in the red tank top. It seems clear they would have regretted it if they had tried anything of the sort.

    The “little old lady with muscle nearby” approach seems effective. Perhaps a good lesson to learn.

    That said, you make a good point. It is important to know your audience. Not sure I’d try that with other demographics.

  69. Mansa Musa made pilgrimage to Mecca with, among others, 12,000 slaves. Excellent starting point for black history.

    •�Agree: GoRedWings!
  70. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    Architecture is a bad career choice except for trust-funders.

    Replies: @Deepysix, @Ancient Briton

    “Architecture is a bad career choice except for trust-funders.”

    People who can get through Archtitecture School are eminently employable.

    Obviously, Architecture jobs in which you get to design and build the next 333-storey Fantasy Tower in Dubai are rare, but all of the Architecture majors I have known are super smart and employed doing important things. Nary a trust-funder nor a dilettante among them.

    I get your point though about the trust fund/ architecture nexus. I knew a trust fund guy who pretended he was some sort of Architect (a lá George Costanza).

    He was not well liked.

    •�Disagree: The Wild Geese Howard
    •�Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Deepysix

    Going to architecture school is good for the employers of graduates of architecture school, but is it good for the graduates of architecture school?

    Replies: @Deepysix
    , @res
    @Deepysix


    People who can get through Archtitecture School are eminently employable.
    Can you give an idea of how much of that is value added by the school and how much is just this?

    all of the Architecture majors I have known are super smart
    I think engineering (my background) teaches habits and techniques of thought which are broadly applicable. I am guessing architecture does the same, but would be interested in hearing about what those specifically are and how they might differ from other fields.

    Replies: @Deepysix
  71. @Greg Geed
    Cuomo did an excellent job according to most people

    The problem with the virus is whites not social distancing and not using masks

    Replies: @Corvinus, @No Recent Commenting History

    Cuomo did an excellent job according to most people tiny ducks

    Especially those in nursing homes, they’re just dying to vote for him again!

  72. Kind of reminds me of the “egghead” guidance counselor from “Clerks.”

    When people snap, they do so in unique and amusing ways. I’d imagine if Obama lost his marbles he’d create a false reality of being the best NBA star ever.

    •�Replies: @Ray P
    @Kronos

    "This kid from the streets of Harlem."
    "Six foot five, six nine with the afro."
    "Four million dollars a year that's true, but he earn every nickel."
    "He truly defines grace under pressure."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7AUpGXLDdk
  73. @Deepysix
    @Steve Sailer

    “Architecture is a bad career choice except for trust-funders.”

    People who can get through Archtitecture School are eminently employable.

    Obviously, Architecture jobs in which you get to design and build the next 333-storey Fantasy Tower in Dubai are rare, but all of the Architecture majors I have known are super smart and employed doing important things. Nary a trust-funder nor a dilettante among them.

    I get your point though about the trust fund/ architecture nexus. I knew a trust fund guy who pretended he was some sort of Architect (a lá George Costanza).

    He was not well liked.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @res

    Going to architecture school is good for the employers of graduates of architecture school, but is it good for the graduates of architecture school?

    •�Replies: @Deepysix
    @Steve Sailer

    I’m not good at riddles, so I will just guess uh... no?

    Or is this an Wildean epigram, not meant to be answered?
  74. @Clifford Brown
    Italian American Grandma lays down the law. All it takes is for a few normal people to stand up to them. The revolution only works because good and decent Americans are staying indoors creating the illusion of a popular mass movement. It is a simulated revolution.

    https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1277371107612528647

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @NJ Transit Commuter, @Goddard, @res, @syonredux, @J.Ross

    If that’s what a grandma can do……..

    A Savonarola can quell and scatter a mob of lynchers with a mere glance of his eye: so can a Merrill or a Beloat. For no mob has any sand in the presence of a man known to be splendidly brave. Besides, a lynching mob would like to be scattered, for of a certainty there are never ten men in it who would not prefer to be somewhere else–and would be, if they but had the courage to go. When I was a boy I saw a brave gentleman deride and insult a mob and drive it away; and afterward, in Nevada, I saw a noted desperado make two hundred men sit still, with the house burning under them, until he gave them permission to retire.

    -Mark Twain

  75. Anon[317] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    OT: Why don't more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn't fat make for better breeders?

    Replies: @SFG, @Anon, @AnotherDad, @Anonymous Jew, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Anonymous, @jsm, @nebulafox

    One thing I learned after moving to Japan: In a land of thin women you never have the “fat or pregnant” doubt. Twenty pounds of pregnant looks completely different from twenty pounds of fat. Also, young, thin women, in their twenties, can just have a baby and be back to normal instantly. It’s almost as if women weren’t designed to leave their reproductive systems up on blocks in the garage for a couple of decades and then expect them to work perfectly.

  76. @Corvinus
    @ChrisZ

    "But our supposed authorities are in the psychological position of the Soviet leadership of the late 1980s..."

    With Trump taking it to whole another level. But do not expect our resident pattern recognizer to offer his take on such matters.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53231840

    Replies: @peterike, @anon, @botazefa, @Alexander Turok, @Stack Over Glow

    ” But do not expect our resident pattern recognizer to offer his take on such matters. ”

    Says the troll who is constantly BTFO’d in the comments and doesn’t have the intellect to get his own blog.

    •�Replies: @Stack Over Glow
    @anon

    He's BTFO when commenting on BLM, but is usually right on when talking about covid. Is he a troll? Maybe. But just as "you're just a kid" is not evidence that the Emperor is wearing mighty fine clothes, you could prove he was an IP in Tel Aviv and that wouldn't change the fact that Trump has mismanaged the pandemic.
  77. @Jonathan Mason
    @DCThrowback

    Yeah, I agree, at least I think so.

    The argument that more testing is leading to higher statistics without the epidemic actually getting worse is confusing.

    It seems to me that what we don't know is why people are being tested who are asymptomatic? And what is the ratio of positive to negative tests?

    And when they test positive does this mean that they have Covid 19 with no symptoms but are able to spread it or does it just mean that they are pre-symptomatic and about to develop symptoms and enter a more contagious phase when they will spread it by coughing?

    To me it makes no sense to be tested if you are asymptomatic, because if you test negative there is no knowing whether you might test positive the next day.

    So to make sense of it we need to know what percentage of people who are being tested are symptomatic and what percentage of people are not symptomatic. And we don't have that information. Maybe President Trump and the governors do, but we don't.

    Replies: @Lars Porsena, @AnotherDad, @ben tillman, @Corvinus, @Polynikes

    # of tests per million people:
    % of tests that are positive:

    And when they test positive does this mean that they have Covid 19 with no symptoms but are able to spread it or does it just mean that they are pre-symptomatic

    Could be either asymp, presymp, or symp. A positive test is just a positive test.

    It’s basically just a flu. I can’t believe people are trying to do this again. The worst of it was 4-5 months ago now and the death rate has been declining ever since. Adjusted for population it will not hit 1968 flu levels of fatalities in the US.

    •�Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  78. @Anon
    OT

    A black architect in Madison, Wisconsin, has decided to fight racial disparities in the architecture industry ... by resigning his job as an architect ... to operate architecture race and equity camps for kids and consult with architecture firms on race and equity.

    https://madison.com/ct/news/local/education/local_schools/hip-hop-architect-michael-ford-leaves-firm-hopes-to-help-diversify-profession/article_5be57f58-3495-5478-9191-e46ca5975db3.html

    I think there may be more to this than meets the eye. The guy was hired partly because he brought with him a supposed contract to build a hip-hop museum in the Bronx. But his name seems to have disappeared from recent information about the museum.

    I also see online that his official title at the firm upon hire was "architectural associate," which in its most common usage means that the employee has not passed the licensing exams and is not a member of the AIA.

    I also see that architecture requires more math than I had thought ("calculus, physics, statics, and general structures") and the ability to crunch numbers in your head. And the life is apparently not that sexy for all but those at the very top. You make very detailed plans that cannot contain errors and you need to juggle various legal building requirements in your head.

    On the other hand, hustling for new business is an important skill in the field.

    Except for the last item, it seems like a profession that might not be ideal for black career seekers, which could explain the racial disparities.

    By the way, architecture was declared a STEM subject a couple of years ago by Congress, which may have more to do with immigration scams and funding of trade schools than reality. Some sorts of economics were also moved into the STEM category several years ago to facilitate more foreign grad students in universities.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Buffalo Joe, @The Wild Geese Howard

    This post is hilarious to me because I spent two years in a pre-architecture program in the late 90s.

    Even back then it was taught as a junction of art, humanities, and social work.

    My fellow students lacked knowledge of anything technical, even basics like drafting standards.

    •�Agree: Kyle
  79. anon[299] •�Disclaimer says:
    @res
    @Clifford Brown

    Thanks. I think the video following that is even better.

    https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1277372267945738240

    Replies: @anon, @Clyde

    “This is not about race anymore. It never really was. This is about taking apart the fabric of America.”

    … which is based on race. All of those statues and monuments had one thing in common: they’re all of white men, or at least that’s what the crowd thinks. Conservatives — The Daily Caller in this case — are worthless. They lie and deflect constantly in order to defend liberalism. There is an obvious racial component here. Have none of these people seen the graffiti painted on these monuments? Black Lives Matter, White Supremacy, 1609 … x countless other slogans. The many stories covered here on this blog and elsewhere make it plain as day, so stop fooling yourselves with happy talk. Blacks, social climbing POC, and SJW whites (who’ve been brainwashed to hate themselves by the education establishment) have torn down our society with a blatantly racial motivation in mind. They’ve said it directly.

    •�Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @anon

    Despite her contrary protestations, the lady in question (like Tucker Carlson) knows that it is all about race. But the proprieties must be observed!
  80. @Anon
    OT: Why don't more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn't fat make for better breeders?

    Replies: @SFG, @Anon, @AnotherDad, @Anonymous Jew, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Anonymous, @jsm, @nebulafox

    OT: Why don’t more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn’t fat make for better breeders?

    Men naturally prefer women whose bodies say:

    “There’s space for your baby here, and i’ll be able bring it to term and feed it.”

    and most desirably

    “No one has put a baby here before. (I have no existing babies to look after and will devote myself to yours.)”

    •�Replies: @JimB
    @AnotherDad


    “No one has put a baby here before. (I have no existing babies to look after and will devote myself to yours.)”
    I’m not sure that’s true. What better proof of fertility is there than young age AND motherhood? Dump any kiddies with an earlier mate with their paternal grandparents.

    Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @AnotherDad

    Good way to put it AnotherDad, but hopefully commenter Anon #293 knows that we don't hear that literally. (It'd be kind of weird in fact!). The big rush to the certain parts are Mother Nature's way of telling us this, well before we really care about any of it. It takes till 40 y/o or later to really understand what you wrote here.
    , @anon
    @AnotherDad

    Also, it is difficult to "put a baby in" fat women and not as much fun.

    Replies: @William Badwhite
    , @MBlanc46
    @AnotherDad

    And women will never understand why that should be the case.
  81. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @NJ Transit Commuter


    I was watching a news conference with Cuomo the other day and noticed his crazy suntan. His father had a dark complexion so it’s entirely possible it’s natural. But if not, between Cuomo and Trump, why do NY politicians love their fake looking tans?
    My surmise is that if you're frequently photographed in public, you're probably somewhat conscious of what the photos that get published look like. Politicians and the celebrities in New York probably get a lot more impromptu photographs taken of them than politicians in some out of the way State Capitol in a smaller state. Pasty and pale often photographs poorly.

    Politicians in the sunbelt, the Southwest, or California have the opportunity to have an easy, sun-kissed glow year round. This is much less the case for politicians in the Northeast. So the latter probably have to resort to artificial means to achieve a photograph-ready appearance.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Charlotte

    Cuomo is well known to get out and have fun on weekends — zipping around in his fast car and enjoying the great outdoors. He’s not shut in poring over policy papers, and that’s fine unless he joins other Dems in shaming Trump for playing a little golf.

  82. It’s a 3D Plot. Deaths x Age x Time?

  83. JimB says:
    @AnotherDad
    @Anon


    OT: Why don’t more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn’t fat make for better breeders?
    Men naturally prefer women whose bodies say:

    "There's space for your baby here, and i'll be able bring it to term and feed it."

    and most desirably

    "No one has put a baby here before. (I have no existing babies to look after and will devote myself to yours.)"

    Replies: @JimB, @Achmed E. Newman, @anon, @MBlanc46

    “No one has put a baby here before. (I have no existing babies to look after and will devote myself to yours.)”

    I’m not sure that’s true. What better proof of fertility is there than young age AND motherhood? Dump any kiddies with an earlier mate with their paternal grandparents.

    •�Replies: @AnotherDad
    @JimB



    “No one has put a baby here before. (I have no existing babies to look after and will devote myself to yours.)”
    I’m not sure that’s true. What better proof of fertility is there than young age AND motherhood? Dump any kiddies with an earlier mate with their paternal grandparents.
    That is not natural--or healthy--behavior and certainly not the behavior you'd want the woman to be doing with your baby.

    So you certainly will not have an evolved male preference for it.

    No the preference will always be for "all systems indicate successful launch"--but complete devotion to launching *your* payload not some other dude's.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
  84. @Jonathan Mason
    @DCThrowback

    Yeah, I agree, at least I think so.

    The argument that more testing is leading to higher statistics without the epidemic actually getting worse is confusing.

    It seems to me that what we don't know is why people are being tested who are asymptomatic? And what is the ratio of positive to negative tests?

    And when they test positive does this mean that they have Covid 19 with no symptoms but are able to spread it or does it just mean that they are pre-symptomatic and about to develop symptoms and enter a more contagious phase when they will spread it by coughing?

    To me it makes no sense to be tested if you are asymptomatic, because if you test negative there is no knowing whether you might test positive the next day.

    So to make sense of it we need to know what percentage of people who are being tested are symptomatic and what percentage of people are not symptomatic. And we don't have that information. Maybe President Trump and the governors do, but we don't.

    Replies: @Lars Porsena, @AnotherDad, @ben tillman, @Corvinus, @Polynikes

    It seems to me that what we don’t know is why people are being tested who are asymptomatic? And what is the ratio of positive to negative tests?

    Because they realize they’ve been in contact with someone who has had it.

    My neighbor’s son was partying a UCF. The next week he wasn’t feeling well and then heard one of the guys he was with was Xi+. So he got tested and was Xi+. But also been hanging out with his church youth group a few days after hanging out with this guy… so all those kids had to go get tested.

    Turned out what what making him feel bad was he’d picked up strep. But this kicked off a round of testing.

    It turns out young people are more social–especially after being locked up all spring–and can spread a virus. Who knew?

  85. @Kronos
    Kind of reminds me of the “egghead” guidance counselor from “Clerks.”

    https://youtu.be/3a3zXJ7biqI

    When people snap, they do so in unique and amusing ways. I’d imagine if Obama lost his marbles he’d create a false reality of being the best NBA star ever.

    Replies: @Ray P

    “This kid from the streets of Harlem.”
    “Six foot five, six nine with the afro.”
    “Four million dollars a year that’s true, but he earn every nickel.”
    “He truly defines grace under pressure.”

    •�Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    •�LOL: Kronos
  86. Americans with Disabilities Act imposed. And now an SJW/+QTBGL gub’ment teat.

  87. I’m sure a lot of Democratic insiders have been thinking, “Well, if Biden has a really bad Senior Moment, we can just dump him and replace him with a tested leader in his prime, like, say, Andrew Cuomo.”

    Cuomo had some bigger challenges–international connection, lots of non-compliant “population groups” (blacks, latins, orthodox Jews).

    But i think it’s fair to say Cuomo did about the worst job of any of the big state governors. Basically he should have done two things:
    — required people to mask up, especially on public transport
    — kept the Xi+ cases out of the nursing/retirement homes; used all the temp hospital space

    He did not do the former, and did exactly the reverse of the later–under the rubric of “non-discrimination” forced nursing homes to take Xi-pos people in thus stoking the carnage.

    It’s interesting that to Democrats/liberals, utter failure in handling a problem is a non-issue. It’s showing … “leadership”. I.e. ordering bureaucrats to do something, yapping in front of the camera, “governing”.

    •�Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @AnotherDad

    Another Dad, in NY we used to talk about "the three men in a room" who ruled NYS. Sheldon Silver is in jail, Bruno, whose first name I forgot, is in jail and the Moreland Commission came this close to finding the stink on Andrew that he shut it down. Lots of baggage. Andrew has no use for anyone who is not uber lib and uber liberals are pushing voters away from the left. Read the comments on the NYT and WaPo about defunding police, monument smashing etc.

    Replies: @Known Fact
    , @Redman
    @AnotherDad

    I’m not a fan of Mario. Who was my governor for 12 years. But junior is a very poor specimen of a pol in the Mario mould.

    He’s about the best the dysfunctional Dems can field in NY at this point. But how he ever had higher aspirations is dumbfounding.
  88. res says:
    @peterike
    OT: For all those people around here who love to talk about Trump "losing it" and various other figments of their imagination, read this piece. Trump is more on the ball than all of Congress put together. The problem is he is fighting almost alone.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/trump-is-right.php

    Interesting comment:

    In response to a question on whether he expects to soon be banned by Twitter — where he has over 82 million followers — Trump said: “Yes, I do.” The president believes the ban from the popular platform will happen in the fall before the 2020 election, an opinion shared by others in the White House.

    I'm about 99% certain myself that this will happen.

    Replies: @res, @Sandmich

    Good article. Thank you.

    This caught my eye.

    “Some people say I should join Parler,” Trump said. “Maybe. We do have over 194 million followers, though, across multiple sites.”

    If he did it right he could help their uptake immensely. Imagine the message: “If you want to hear banned thoughts from your president then go to parler.com.”

    P.S. But this bit from the comments should give everyone pause.

    And this is why I shan’t join Parler:

    “14. You agree to defend and indemnify Parler, as well as any of its officers, directors, employees, and agents, from and against any and all claims, actions, damages, obligations, losses, liabilities, costs or debt, and expenses (including but not limited to all attorneys fees) arising from or relating to your access to and use of the Services. Parler will have the right to conduct its own defense, at your expense, in any action or proceeding covered by this indemnity.

    https://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/06/parler-is-trap.html#comment-form
    [Emphasis added]

  89. @Anon
    OT: Why don't more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn't fat make for better breeders?

    Replies: @SFG, @Anon, @AnotherDad, @Anonymous Jew, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Anonymous, @jsm, @nebulafox

    Because, from an evolutionary standpoint, being Western-level “fat” is unnatural and therefore unattractive. (See hunter-gathers: even with an abundant food supply you can’t get fat eating only deer, kale and the occasional in-season wild fruit).

    Men don’t like model-skinny either. I imagine it looks even worse in person. The modeling and entertainment industry skews heavily gay, so you get thin women with masculine features and bodies (ie big jaws and small hips). As an example, Google Gisele Bundchen and her sister. The former “super model” looks like a tranny (big jaw, small hips) while the aforementioned normal Bundchen looks like a regular attractive woman (small feminine features and child bearing hips).

    I think the non-brainwashed preference has to be for evolutionarily normal female body fat levels (20-30%) and feminine facial features and physique. Not anorexic tranny or artificially fattened up on Twinkies and McDonalds.

    •�Agree: RadicalCenter
    •�Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous Jew

    Anonymous Jew, I reread Peter Freuchen "Book of the Eskimos" last month. Fruechen spent 50 years living with the Eskimos and his first wife was an Eskimo. They were the consumate hunter-gatherers, no agriculture, and the men liked their women plump. Seal and whale loaded with fat and you get plump.

    Replies: @Anonymous Jew, @AnotherDad
    , @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous Jew



    Because, from an evolutionary standpoint, being Western-level “fat” is unnatural and therefore unattractive. (See hunter-gathers: even with an abundant food supply you can’t get fat eating only deer, kale and the occasional in-season wild fruit).

    Men don’t like model-skinny either. I imagine it looks even worse in person. The modeling and entertainment industry skews heavily gay, so you get thin women with masculine features and bodies (ie big jaws and small hips). As an example, Google Gisele Bundchen and her sister. The former “super model” looks like a tranny (big jaw, small hips) while the aforementioned normal Bundchen looks like a regular attractive woman (small feminine features and child bearing hips).

    I think the non-brainwashed preference has to be for evolutionarily normal female body fat levels (20-30%) and feminine facial features and physique. Not anorexic tranny or artificially fattened up on Twinkies and McDonalds.
    Well said AJ.

    Women are attractive when they look like they are *ready* to get pregnant, carry a baby to term and nurse it.

    Not when they look like they are already pregnant or look like boys--that's the influence of the media's queers.

    ~~

    (Giesle has Germanic look and good facial symmetry, but mediocre curves--too straight a body--and a not terribly feminine face. A quick google--my preference would be a dip into several of her sisters. Less work, more fun.

    Never understood why Tom Brady settled for this just because she's a "super model". The dude makes plenty of money and could have a spectacular, smart, sweet girl, who didn't have her own career, who'd have given him five or six kids and made him much more reproductively successful. On the other hand she isn't Megan Markle, LOL.)

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Anonymous Jew

    You know what we haven't had on iSteve in a long time?

    Paul Walker news!

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CCBgvw_jn2w/

    Question:

    Who is hotter? Gisele vs Paul Walker's daughter?

    I'm going with Paul Walker's daughter....
    https://www.deseret.com/entertainment/2020/6/30/21308360/paul-walker-vin-diesel-children

    Replies: @Steve Sailer
  90. res says:
    @Deepysix
    @Steve Sailer

    “Architecture is a bad career choice except for trust-funders.”

    People who can get through Archtitecture School are eminently employable.

    Obviously, Architecture jobs in which you get to design and build the next 333-storey Fantasy Tower in Dubai are rare, but all of the Architecture majors I have known are super smart and employed doing important things. Nary a trust-funder nor a dilettante among them.

    I get your point though about the trust fund/ architecture nexus. I knew a trust fund guy who pretended he was some sort of Architect (a lá George Costanza).

    He was not well liked.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @res

    People who can get through Archtitecture School are eminently employable.

    Can you give an idea of how much of that is value added by the school and how much is just this?

    all of the Architecture majors I have known are super smart

    I think engineering (my background) teaches habits and techniques of thought which are broadly applicable. I am guessing architecture does the same, but would be interested in hearing about what those specifically are and how they might differ from other fields.

    •�Disagree: The Wild Geese Howard
    •�Replies: @Deepysix
    @res

    My only point was that Architecture grads are near-uniformly smart and ultimately mostly successful, whether they are short-shrifted by potential employers in their chosen field (as Sailer implies) or not.

    “Habits and techniques of thought” are indeed broadly applicable, and explain success in every useful field of endeavor.

    Replies: @res
  91. @AnotherDad
    @Anon


    OT: Why don’t more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn’t fat make for better breeders?
    Men naturally prefer women whose bodies say:

    "There's space for your baby here, and i'll be able bring it to term and feed it."

    and most desirably

    "No one has put a baby here before. (I have no existing babies to look after and will devote myself to yours.)"

    Replies: @JimB, @Achmed E. Newman, @anon, @MBlanc46

    Good way to put it AnotherDad, but hopefully commenter Anon #293 knows that we don’t hear that literally. (It’d be kind of weird in fact!). The big rush to the certain parts are Mother Nature’s way of telling us this, well before we really care about any of it. It takes till 40 y/o or later to really understand what you wrote here.

  92. @Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY)
    Did this really happen, or is this photoshopped? Governor Andrew Cuomo seems to be standing beside a pile of substance that reaches over his head, and that seems to represent data in three dimensions. The time axis goes from left to right, but what does the axis perpendicular to the screen represent? What is this large hill made of? (And what is its volume?) Who built it, and at what expense? After the press conference, what will happen to this "hill of beans"? And who is paying for the ASL signer in the lower right of the screen? Does the governor think that deaf people don't know about the captioning option that they can turn on on their TV sets?

    All this effort and expense conveys no more information than does a squiggle of ink on a two-dimensional graph.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @ben tillman

    The time axis goes from left to right, but what does the axis perpendicular to the screen represent?

    I’m wondering the same thing.

  93. @AnotherDad

    I’m sure a lot of Democratic insiders have been thinking, “Well, if Biden has a really bad Senior Moment, we can just dump him and replace him with a tested leader in his prime, like, say, Andrew Cuomo.”
    Cuomo had some bigger challenges--international connection, lots of non-compliant "population groups" (blacks, latins, orthodox Jews).

    But i think it's fair to say Cuomo did about the worst job of any of the big state governors. Basically he should have done two things:
    -- required people to mask up, especially on public transport
    -- kept the Xi+ cases out of the nursing/retirement homes; used all the temp hospital space

    He did not do the former, and did exactly the reverse of the later--under the rubric of "non-discrimination" forced nursing homes to take Xi-pos people in thus stoking the carnage.


    It's interesting that to Democrats/liberals, utter failure in handling a problem is a non-issue. It's showing ... "leadership". I.e. ordering bureaucrats to do something, yapping in front of the camera, "governing".

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Redman

    Another Dad, in NY we used to talk about “the three men in a room” who ruled NYS. Sheldon Silver is in jail, Bruno, whose first name I forgot, is in jail and the Moreland Commission came this close to finding the stink on Andrew that he shut it down. Lots of baggage. Andrew has no use for anyone who is not uber lib and uber liberals are pushing voters away from the left. Read the comments on the NYT and WaPo about defunding police, monument smashing etc.

    •�Replies: @Known Fact
    @Buffalo Joe

    DeBlasio today announced the deal with the city council to cut $1 billion from the cops (out of about $6 billion) and redirect it to "youth programs" and social programs -- like broadband for families in need. Maybe he can put his wife in charge of that cool billion.

    My dad lived in Manhattan for 30 years, so I've seen it all, but this takes the cake

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  94. @Anonymous Jew
    @Anon

    Because, from an evolutionary standpoint, being Western-level “fat” is unnatural and therefore unattractive. (See hunter-gathers: even with an abundant food supply you can’t get fat eating only deer, kale and the occasional in-season wild fruit).

    Men don’t like model-skinny either. I imagine it looks even worse in person. The modeling and entertainment industry skews heavily gay, so you get thin women with masculine features and bodies (ie big jaws and small hips). As an example, Google Gisele Bundchen and her sister. The former “super model” looks like a tranny (big jaw, small hips) while the aforementioned normal Bundchen looks like a regular attractive woman (small feminine features and child bearing hips).

    I think the non-brainwashed preference has to be for evolutionarily normal female body fat levels (20-30%) and feminine facial features and physique. Not anorexic tranny or artificially fattened up on Twinkies and McDonalds.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Chrisnonymous

    Anonymous Jew, I reread Peter Freuchen “Book of the Eskimos” last month. Fruechen spent 50 years living with the Eskimos and his first wife was an Eskimo. They were the consumate hunter-gatherers, no agriculture, and the men liked their women plump. Seal and whale loaded with fat and you get plump.

    •�Replies: @Anonymous Jew
    @Buffalo Joe

    I did a couple image searches to find pre-Western Eskimos, and all the photos that I saw were of a relatively lean people. At the most, they look to be on the thick side for hunter-gatherers (what Americans call lean to normal). I don’t believe most humans can get fat on our natural diet. It takes unnaturally high-glycemic foods - ie recently invented refined grains and sugars.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @nebulafox
    , @AnotherDad
    @Buffalo Joe


    Anonymous Jew, I reread Peter Freuchen “Book of the Eskimos” last month. Fruechen spent 50 years living with the Eskimos and his first wife was an Eskimo. They were the consumate hunter-gatherers, no agriculture, and the men liked their women plump. Seal and whale loaded with fat and you get plump.
    Eskimos were chronically under intense Malthusian pressure--at risk of starvation.

    In such a culture, the evolved preference will be for women who are currently fattened up, as they'll be much more likely to make it through the next nine months even if the seal hunt or the whale hunt or the salmon run fails.

    In more settled stable environments even if there's malthusian pressure, the male preference will be for women who are simply adequately nourished and have the normal curves/fat reserves that indicate they are sexually mature and likely to carry a baby to term.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  95. @Steve Sailer
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I once was standing in line behind Valerie Jackson at the Kinko's: in person, she talks exactly like she did on TV, only more so.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    Victoria Jackson.

    Victoria (Stereo) (2019 – Remaster)

  96. @Jonathan Mason
    @DCThrowback

    Yeah, I agree, at least I think so.

    The argument that more testing is leading to higher statistics without the epidemic actually getting worse is confusing.

    It seems to me that what we don't know is why people are being tested who are asymptomatic? And what is the ratio of positive to negative tests?

    And when they test positive does this mean that they have Covid 19 with no symptoms but are able to spread it or does it just mean that they are pre-symptomatic and about to develop symptoms and enter a more contagious phase when they will spread it by coughing?

    To me it makes no sense to be tested if you are asymptomatic, because if you test negative there is no knowing whether you might test positive the next day.

    So to make sense of it we need to know what percentage of people who are being tested are symptomatic and what percentage of people are not symptomatic. And we don't have that information. Maybe President Trump and the governors do, but we don't.

    Replies: @Lars Porsena, @AnotherDad, @ben tillman, @Corvinus, @Polynikes

    It seems to me that what we don’t know is why people are being tested who are asymptomatic? And what is the ratio of positive to negative tests?

    Here’s what I read on Twitter yesterday from a senior executive of a Texas ER chain: It’s largely employer-driven. Emp0loyee at work coughs or sneezes, employer sends employee to be tested. So not asymptomatic but mildly symptomatic. If they test positive they get a steroid shot and perhaps some antibiotics, and they’re asymptomatic a few days later.

    •�Replies: @Corvinus
    @ben tillman

    "Here’s what I read on Twitter yesterday from a senior executive of a Texas ER chain..."

    Source?

    Replies: @ben tillman
  97. @Buffalo Joe
    @El Dato

    El, the Mayor of Seattle said they were..."Going to have a Summer of love." Apparently, four shot, two dead, is tough love.

    Replies: @LittleNano

    Well, you hurt the ones you love.

    •�LOL: Buffalo Joe
  98. @Anon
    OT: Why don't more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn't fat make for better breeders?

    Replies: @SFG, @Anon, @AnotherDad, @Anonymous Jew, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Anonymous, @jsm, @nebulafox

    OT: Why don’t more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn’t fat make for better breeders?

    Statistically speaking, most American men are stuck with someone generously proportioned whether they prefer that or not.

    My surmise here is that there are probably evolutionary or evo-psych explanations for what men like in terms of women’s body types. Thin women are probably acceptable as potential mothers if either your society is well established without frequent periods of deprivation, or your society is transient and the women have to be ready to move distances over land by foot. Anything between these two extremes probably favors some fat stores in the hips and breasts.

    Of course, there is a vast difference between women who are naturally curvy and what the female self esteem movement (i.e., the Press) tells women is “curvy.” Christina Hendricks in Mad Men is curvy. Most of the rest are “curvy.” One curve you really ought not have is a bulging gut, which at a certain point yields a single “curve” forming the figure of a sphere with a fat face protruding from it. Outside of paraphilia, I don’t think “curvy” is something that men prefer, although they may be stuck with it.

    Apparently people have purported to study the female body types depicted/favored in media and correlated them with social and political climates. Long story short, these people believe that men prefer bustier, more full figures in times of uncertainty (i.e., the ramp up of the Cold War) but prefer a more slender, elegant figure in times of peace and plenty.

    •�Replies: @anon
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    My surmise here is that there are probably evolutionary or evo-psych explanations for what men like in terms of women’s body types.

    Could be. Here's some reading on the topic.

    Preferred Women’s Waist-to-Hip Ratio Variation over the Last 2,500 Years
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4401783/

    Preference for Women's Body Mass and Waist-to-Hip Ratio in Tsimane' Men of the Bolivian Amazon: Biological and Cultural Determinants
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4141791/

    Assessment of Waist-to-Hip Ratio Attractiveness in Women: An Anthropometric Analysis of Digital Silhouettes
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4050298/

    By the way, in the 1st world "Fat acceptance" is also "diabetes acceptance" and "knee replacement acceptance" plus some "hip replacement acceptance".
  99. Very instructive Twitter post from the great Alex Berenson about the situation in Texas. (Just saw ben tillman’s comment: this is probably the post he refers to.)

    •�Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @peterike

    Berenson is one of the few truth tellers out there. The covid "surge" numbers are being manipulated by the same people who did it initially and for the same reason - get DJT.
  100. Creepy Uncle Joe wants mandatory facediapers for the rest of our lives, so I’m not sure why you’re critical of him. Creepy Joe is on your team, Sailer.

    •�Replies: @Ray P
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Given how ugly a lot of the left are, could there be method in Sailer dude's madness?
  101. @Buffalo Joe
    @AnotherDad

    Another Dad, in NY we used to talk about "the three men in a room" who ruled NYS. Sheldon Silver is in jail, Bruno, whose first name I forgot, is in jail and the Moreland Commission came this close to finding the stink on Andrew that he shut it down. Lots of baggage. Andrew has no use for anyone who is not uber lib and uber liberals are pushing voters away from the left. Read the comments on the NYT and WaPo about defunding police, monument smashing etc.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    DeBlasio today announced the deal with the city council to cut $1 billion from the cops (out of about $6 billion) and redirect it to “youth programs” and social programs — like broadband for families in need. Maybe he can put his wife in charge of that cool billion.

    My dad lived in Manhattan for 30 years, so I’ve seen it all, but this takes the cake

    •�Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Known Fact

    Known Fact, if you shredded the policy proposals and plans for all the social programs in NY and NYC the confetti would make a pile much higher than Mount Cuomo. And that mountain would actually keep growing.
  102. @Corvinus
    @ChrisZ

    "But our supposed authorities are in the psychological position of the Soviet leadership of the late 1980s..."

    With Trump taking it to whole another level. But do not expect our resident pattern recognizer to offer his take on such matters.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53231840

    Replies: @peterike, @anon, @botazefa, @Alexander Turok, @Stack Over Glow

    Corvinus, you should apply to be an on air personality with the Today show on NBC.

    What you’re saying is exactly what Savannah Guthrie was reading off her teleprompter this morning.

    There is no second wave, just testing centers finally hitting their stride on the Federal government dime.

    The arrogance of people who think they can stop a variant of the common cold astonishes me.

    •�Replies: @anon
    @botazefa

    Corvinus, you should apply to be an on air personality with the Today show on NBC. What you’re saying is exactly what Savannah Guthrie was reading off her teleprompter this morning.

    That's a total coincidence. There is no evidence whatsoever that Coronovinus posts talking points off of a script. None! None, I tell you!
    , @Alexander Turok
    @botazefa


    The arrogance of people who think they can stop a variant of the common cold astonishes me.
    Yet China did so. Your perception of arrogance is likely due to you projecting your own incapability onto others. If everyone was a smart as you, it would indeed be arrogant for any of them to say they could stop coronavirus.

    Replies: @botazefa
    , @Corvinus
    @botazefa

    "The arrogance of people who think they can stop a variant of the common cold astonishes me."

    That would be Fake News on your part.

    https://www.covid-19facts.com/?p=84367

    Replies: @Kyle, @usNthem
  103. @AnotherDad
    @Anon


    OT: Why don’t more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn’t fat make for better breeders?
    Men naturally prefer women whose bodies say:

    "There's space for your baby here, and i'll be able bring it to term and feed it."

    and most desirably

    "No one has put a baby here before. (I have no existing babies to look after and will devote myself to yours.)"

    Replies: @JimB, @Achmed E. Newman, @anon, @MBlanc46

    Also, it is difficult to “put a baby in” fat women and not as much fun.

    •�Replies: @William Badwhite
    @anon


    , it is difficult to “put a baby in” fat women and not as much fun.
    Brings to mind the old joke: What do fat women and mopeds have in common?

    A: they're both fun to ride, but you don't want your friends to see you
  104. @Barnard
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder

    The thought was they would dump Biden because his dementia would cause him to lose to Trump. Now that Trump has made a total mess of the riots they are much less worried about that.

    Replies: @Zach

    The riots are on blue state mayors and governors who preferred giving Trump the finger to accepting his help. What did Jenny Durkan and Bill de Blasio do to cool things off in their cities? Well, de Blasio sent his kids out to protest against the police.

  105. @Kyle
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nnun8y7r8_U

    Replies: @the one they call Desanex

    Andrew Mark Cuomo = A cow-mound marker

  106. @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous Jew

    Anonymous Jew, I reread Peter Freuchen "Book of the Eskimos" last month. Fruechen spent 50 years living with the Eskimos and his first wife was an Eskimo. They were the consumate hunter-gatherers, no agriculture, and the men liked their women plump. Seal and whale loaded with fat and you get plump.

    Replies: @Anonymous Jew, @AnotherDad

    I did a couple image searches to find pre-Western Eskimos, and all the photos that I saw were of a relatively lean people. At the most, they look to be on the thick side for hunter-gatherers (what Americans call lean to normal). I don’t believe most humans can get fat on our natural diet. It takes unnaturally high-glycemic foods – ie recently invented refined grains and sugars.

    •�Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous Jew

    AJ, just quoting the author of a book about Eskimos. And, again, he spent 50 years living with them. But we're good.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    , @nebulafox
    @Anonymous Jew

    To some degree, there is a genetic component as well: some people are never going to be thin no matter what they try, even if they are in peak physical health, and women tend to have more body fat in the first place because they give birth. And that's just fine: a lot of men do not want classically thin women, contra traditional pop culture.

    But there's a huge, absolutely astronomical difference between that and the obesity epidemic you see in the United States, and increasingly elsewhere in the world. The latter is the direct result of lifestyle, not genetics. Modern American-style obesity simply does not exist in an environment where there's no junk food and you have to exert physical effort every day.
  107. NY Gov. Cuomo unveils a mountain sculpture symbolizing the COVID curve: “We don’t want to climb this mountain again.”

    Don’t worry. The Mohawks or Iroquois or Algonquin will declare it holy and prohibit our entry.

    Just like others did at Devil’s Tower, Ayer’s Rock, Mauna Kea, McKinley, and Mecca.

    •�Replies: @Ray P
    @Reg Cæsar

    Plant olive trees on it and tribesmen closer to the NY governor's heart and bank accounts will claim it.
  108. What’s the over under on daily deaths in 4 weeks time? That will be the real indicator.

    As others noted, the Hong Kong Flu killed over 160,000 when adjusting for population. It’s too late. Just let er rip, and those that feel it necessary are free to self isolate.

    Btw: is that a fake tan or is Cuomo just Sicilian?

  109. @ChrisZ
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    You're right of course, Commuter. That this has gone on for a month now is unconscionable; a show of force or even resolve would have stopped it. The blacks are mostly in it now for fun and games, and after day two would have gleefully gone home to enjoy their stolen booty. The white "street fighters" look like they're overwhelmingly p*ssies (as you note about the kid in the video); once exposed to real violence against them they would have dropped the LARPing and gone back to the security of their video games. In my suburban town (from which I too commute) the "demonstrations" are filled with teenage girls and their moms. None of it could be called, or feared as, a revolutionary vanguard.

    But our supposed authorities are in the psychological position of the Soviet leadership of the late 1980s: they are completely cynical and have zero confidence in, or even affection for, the system they sit atop. So why bother defending it?

    Deep down, I think they know they're just bending over to vandals and losers, and they loath themselves for what that says about their own weakness. So they're lashing out symbolically at what they fantasize as the "real" bad guys: traditional, law-abiding Americans. Their pathetic gesture is a danger, however, because they really do wield power to ruin lives and wreck the system for everyone.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @James O'Meara

    Anyone not destroyed by the mob, will be destroyed by the “authorities” lashing out at “the real danger”, i.e., White people.

  110. Sandmich says: •�Website
    @peterike
    OT: For all those people around here who love to talk about Trump "losing it" and various other figments of their imagination, read this piece. Trump is more on the ball than all of Congress put together. The problem is he is fighting almost alone.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/trump-is-right.php

    Interesting comment:

    In response to a question on whether he expects to soon be banned by Twitter — where he has over 82 million followers — Trump said: “Yes, I do.” The president believes the ban from the popular platform will happen in the fall before the 2020 election, an opinion shared by others in the White House.

    I'm about 99% certain myself that this will happen.

    Replies: @res, @Sandmich

    Those normies there are some flavor of hopeless. “I love black people, it’s the democrats destroying America that I hate!”. Yeah, guess what black people hear: that you hate their politics and their own vision of what America should be. They need to get their head out of their tail, our current situation isn’t due to a lack of effort in training blacks and browns on the glories of Adam Smith.

  111. anon[372] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Corvinus
    @Greg Geed

    "Cuomo did an excellent job according to most people. The problem with the virus is whites not social distancing and not using masks."

    Not just whites, but an increasing number of Americans, as evident by the spikes in Arizona, Texas, and Florida. The governors there are Republicans. But do not expect Mr. Sailer to offer that sort of NOTICING.

    Replies: @DCThrowback, @Daniel Williams, @anon

    Not just whites, but an increasing number of Americans, as evident by the spikes in Arizona, Texas, and Florida. The governors there are Republicans. But do not expect Mr. Sailer to offer that sort of NOTICING.

    What I noticed, Corvinus, is that the BLM riots and looting over many weeks were the biggest super-spreader event imaginable, occurring nation-wide.
    Deplorable blacks and groveling whites are responsible for the increase in Covid, not the law-abiding whites who stayed at home to guard their property with good old American fire arms.

  112. @Intelligent Dasein
    @MEH 0910

    Steve-o-sphere in a nutshell:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpuMOKYTs9U

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @anon

    Where have I seen that guy in the video before?

    •�Replies: @Ray P
    @anon

    He'd be six nine with an full afro.
  113. @El Dato
    OT: CHOP/CHAZ

    If Seattle really thought Black Lives Matter, it would shut down CHOP chaos

    Over the past three weeks, however, four black men have been shot – two of them fatally. The latest incident happened in the early hours of Monday, and claimed the life of a 16-year-old African-American male, while a 14-year-old is in the hospital in critical condition, according to the Seattle PD. The white Jeep Cherokee [that's not a cheap car] they were in was found riddled with bullets on 12 Avenue between Pike and Pine – just outside the East Precinct.

    Chief Best said the crime scene had been tampered with, and that police had no luck interviewing witnesses as “people are not being cooperative with our requests for help.”
    Had Floyd not dropped fentanyl, all of that could have been avoided.

    “It's very unfortunate that we have another murder in this area identified as the CHOP,” Chief Best said Monday, according to Seattle’s KOMO radio. “Two African-American men… dead at a place where they claim to be working for Black Lives Matter but they're gone. They're dead now.”
    Bring in the Wolf.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Thoughts

    Somehow all these liberal policies keep getting black men killed.

    One would be tempted to think that’s the point of them.

  114. @El Dato
    @MEH 0910

    Has there ever been a movie that displayed a big conspiracy by the Military-Scientific complex like here? Getting a whole region evacuated under pretext of a "chemweapon incident" certainly is a rich idea. (And where are the politicians in this story??)

    Replies: @Kronos, @Ray P

    I believe the films “Resident Evil 2” and “Andromeda Strain” fit the bill. I believe there are others.

  115. @anon
    @AnotherDad

    Also, it is difficult to "put a baby in" fat women and not as much fun.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    , it is difficult to “put a baby in” fat women and not as much fun.

    Brings to mind the old joke: What do fat women and mopeds have in common?

    A: they’re both fun to ride, but you don’t want your friends to see you

  116. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    Creepy Uncle Joe wants mandatory facediapers for the rest of our lives, so I'm not sure why you're critical of him. Creepy Joe is on your team, Sailer.

    Replies: @Ray P

    Given how ugly a lot of the left are, could there be method in Sailer dude’s madness?

  117. anon[421] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @Anon


    OT: Why don’t more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn’t fat make for better breeders?
    Statistically speaking, most American men are stuck with someone generously proportioned whether they prefer that or not.

    My surmise here is that there are probably evolutionary or evo-psych explanations for what men like in terms of women's body types. Thin women are probably acceptable as potential mothers if either your society is well established without frequent periods of deprivation, or your society is transient and the women have to be ready to move distances over land by foot. Anything between these two extremes probably favors some fat stores in the hips and breasts.

    Of course, there is a vast difference between women who are naturally curvy and what the female self esteem movement (i.e., the Press) tells women is "curvy." Christina Hendricks in Mad Men is curvy. Most of the rest are "curvy." One curve you really ought not have is a bulging gut, which at a certain point yields a single "curve" forming the figure of a sphere with a fat face protruding from it. Outside of paraphilia, I don't think "curvy" is something that men prefer, although they may be stuck with it.

    Apparently people have purported to study the female body types depicted/favored in media and correlated them with social and political climates. Long story short, these people believe that men prefer bustier, more full figures in times of uncertainty (i.e., the ramp up of the Cold War) but prefer a more slender, elegant figure in times of peace and plenty.

    Replies: @anon

    My surmise here is that there are probably evolutionary or evo-psych explanations for what men like in terms of women’s body types.

    Could be. Here’s some reading on the topic.

    Preferred Women’s Waist-to-Hip Ratio Variation over the Last 2,500 Years
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4401783/

    Preference for Women’s Body Mass and Waist-to-Hip Ratio in Tsimane’ Men of the Bolivian Amazon: Biological and Cultural Determinants
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4141791/

    Assessment of Waist-to-Hip Ratio Attractiveness in Women: An Anthropometric Analysis of Digital Silhouettes
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4050298/

    By the way, in the 1st world “Fat acceptance” is also “diabetes acceptance” and “knee replacement acceptance” plus some “hip replacement acceptance”.

  118. @NJ Transit Commuter
    I was watching a news conference with Cuomo the other day and noticed his crazy suntan. His father had a dark complexion so it’s entirely possible it’s natural. But if not, between Cuomo and Trump, why do NY politicians love their fake looking tans?

    Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @njguy73

    For three decades New Yorkers were fascinated by the media-friendly exploits of a real estate tycoon with unusually-colored skin. His name escapes me.

  119. anon[421] •�Disclaimer says:
    @botazefa
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus, you should apply to be an on air personality with the Today show on NBC.

    What you're saying is exactly what Savannah Guthrie was reading off her teleprompter this morning.

    There is no second wave, just testing centers finally hitting their stride on the Federal government dime.

    The arrogance of people who think they can stop a variant of the common cold astonishes me.

    Replies: @anon, @Alexander Turok, @Corvinus

    Corvinus, you should apply to be an on air personality with the Today show on NBC. What you’re saying is exactly what Savannah Guthrie was reading off her teleprompter this morning.

    That’s a total coincidence. There is no evidence whatsoever that Coronovinus posts talking points off of a script. None! None, I tell you!

    •�LOL: botazefa
  120. @Reg Cæsar

    NY Gov. Cuomo unveils a mountain sculpture symbolizing the COVID curve: “We don’t want to climb this mountain again.”
    Don't worry. The Mohawks or Iroquois or Algonquin will declare it holy and prohibit our entry.


    Just like others did at Devil's Tower, Ayer's Rock, Mauna Kea, McKinley, and Mecca.

    Replies: @Ray P

    Plant olive trees on it and tribesmen closer to the NY governor’s heart and bank accounts will claim it.

  121. It is clear now that BULLSHIT-2020 is a terror attack perpetrated by the Democratic Party. Say no to the facediaper, open up your business, tell the Democratic Party to fuck itself.

    We Are In This Together, Together We Are Stronger, Together We Will Make BULLSHIT-2020 end. And absolutely do not vote for Joe Diaper in November.

    •�Agree: RadicalCenter
  122. @El Dato
    @MEH 0910

    Has there ever been a movie that displayed a big conspiracy by the Military-Scientific complex like here? Getting a whole region evacuated under pretext of a "chemweapon incident" certainly is a rich idea. (And where are the politicians in this story??)

    Replies: @Kronos, @Ray P

    “They started something they can’t stop.”
    “It’s madness unleashed by human error. The Crazies.”

    George Romero in 1973 had a handle on the future:

  123. @Known Fact
    @Buffalo Joe

    DeBlasio today announced the deal with the city council to cut $1 billion from the cops (out of about $6 billion) and redirect it to "youth programs" and social programs -- like broadband for families in need. Maybe he can put his wife in charge of that cool billion.

    My dad lived in Manhattan for 30 years, so I've seen it all, but this takes the cake

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Known Fact, if you shredded the policy proposals and plans for all the social programs in NY and NYC the confetti would make a pile much higher than Mount Cuomo. And that mountain would actually keep growing.

  124. @Anonymous Jew
    @Buffalo Joe

    I did a couple image searches to find pre-Western Eskimos, and all the photos that I saw were of a relatively lean people. At the most, they look to be on the thick side for hunter-gatherers (what Americans call lean to normal). I don’t believe most humans can get fat on our natural diet. It takes unnaturally high-glycemic foods - ie recently invented refined grains and sugars.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @nebulafox

    AJ, just quoting the author of a book about Eskimos. And, again, he spent 50 years living with them. But we’re good.

    •�Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Buffalo Joe

    But when did he live with them? Reindeer herders in Mongolia nominally eat their traditional diet except that they can also get wheat flour, corn oil, and occasional vodka and sugar imported from China. It's true that in older photos, Alaskan Inuits don't look obese, although they do look kind of round, not like photos of Australian aborigines who subsist on traditional diets. I suspect they just have a naturally short and squat shape. If you try living on just meat and fat, you will find it is difficult to keep on body fat. Google Shawn Baker and carnivore diet...

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  125. @botazefa
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus, you should apply to be an on air personality with the Today show on NBC.

    What you're saying is exactly what Savannah Guthrie was reading off her teleprompter this morning.

    There is no second wave, just testing centers finally hitting their stride on the Federal government dime.

    The arrogance of people who think they can stop a variant of the common cold astonishes me.

    Replies: @anon, @Alexander Turok, @Corvinus

    The arrogance of people who think they can stop a variant of the common cold astonishes me.

    Yet China did so. Your perception of arrogance is likely due to you projecting your own incapability onto others. If everyone was a smart as you, it would indeed be arrogant for any of them to say they could stop coronavirus.

    •�Replies: @botazefa
    @Alexander Turok


    Yet China did so. Your perception of arrogance is likely due to you projecting your own incapability onto others.
    China has another outbreak, if you believe CNN.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/asia/coronavirus-beijing-outbreak-intl-hnk/index.html

    I'm not projecting. I'm observing that SARS CoV2 is still spreading in the face of lockdowns, social distancing, and masks.
  126. @Corvinus
    @ChrisZ

    "But our supposed authorities are in the psychological position of the Soviet leadership of the late 1980s..."

    With Trump taking it to whole another level. But do not expect our resident pattern recognizer to offer his take on such matters.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53231840

    Replies: @peterike, @anon, @botazefa, @Alexander Turok, @Stack Over Glow

    Considering the “intelligence community’s” record over the past few decades, when they say they aren’t sure about something, well…

  127. @Deepysix
    Victoria Jackson, as an unapologetic Christian was marginalized by Hollywood. Her voice didn’t help.

    Replies: @Redman

    Her voice was great. Speak for yourself.

    •�Replies: @Deepysix
    @Redman

    I WAS speaking for myself.

    To clarify, I like her and her voice and her convictions. Other people don’t.
  128. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)
    @NJ Transit Commuter


    I was watching a news conference with Cuomo the other day and noticed his crazy suntan. His father had a dark complexion so it’s entirely possible it’s natural. But if not, between Cuomo and Trump, why do NY politicians love their fake looking tans?
    My surmise is that if you're frequently photographed in public, you're probably somewhat conscious of what the photos that get published look like. Politicians and the celebrities in New York probably get a lot more impromptu photographs taken of them than politicians in some out of the way State Capitol in a smaller state. Pasty and pale often photographs poorly.

    Politicians in the sunbelt, the Southwest, or California have the opportunity to have an easy, sun-kissed glow year round. This is much less the case for politicians in the Northeast. So the latter probably have to resort to artificial means to achieve a photograph-ready appearance.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Charlotte

    The photograph angle is plausible. Bronzed skin tends to look better on film. There’s an association of tanned skin (at in males) with athleticism and aggression, too.

  129. @peterike
    @Corvinus

    Poor Corvinus. He takes "unnamed sources" from the NY Times and WaPo to be arbiters of truth. No wonder he's such a dolt.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “He takes “unnamed sources” from the NY Times and WaPo to be arbiters of truth”

    The intelligence was considered significant and credible enough that it was included in the President’s Daily Brief. It is a collection of the most significant analysis on issues affecting national security and foreign policy. Leading Republican lawmakers confirmed its contents. Trump lied about NOT viewing it. Now why would he other than tell the truth here? I get it, though. Your deep affection for Trump clouds your judgement.

    •�Replies: @Peterike
    @Corvinus

    More “unnamed sources.” Dude, the MSM lies to you. Every day. It’s what they do. Wine Aunts, soy men and grade schoolers are the only people left who believe them. Which are you?

    Replies: @Corvinus
  130. @AnotherDad

    I’m sure a lot of Democratic insiders have been thinking, “Well, if Biden has a really bad Senior Moment, we can just dump him and replace him with a tested leader in his prime, like, say, Andrew Cuomo.”
    Cuomo had some bigger challenges--international connection, lots of non-compliant "population groups" (blacks, latins, orthodox Jews).

    But i think it's fair to say Cuomo did about the worst job of any of the big state governors. Basically he should have done two things:
    -- required people to mask up, especially on public transport
    -- kept the Xi+ cases out of the nursing/retirement homes; used all the temp hospital space

    He did not do the former, and did exactly the reverse of the later--under the rubric of "non-discrimination" forced nursing homes to take Xi-pos people in thus stoking the carnage.


    It's interesting that to Democrats/liberals, utter failure in handling a problem is a non-issue. It's showing ... "leadership". I.e. ordering bureaucrats to do something, yapping in front of the camera, "governing".

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @Redman

    I’m not a fan of Mario. Who was my governor for 12 years. But junior is a very poor specimen of a pol in the Mario mould.

    He’s about the best the dysfunctional Dems can field in NY at this point. But how he ever had higher aspirations is dumbfounding.

  131. @botazefa
    @Corvinus

    Corvinus, you should apply to be an on air personality with the Today show on NBC.

    What you're saying is exactly what Savannah Guthrie was reading off her teleprompter this morning.

    There is no second wave, just testing centers finally hitting their stride on the Federal government dime.

    The arrogance of people who think they can stop a variant of the common cold astonishes me.

    Replies: @anon, @Alexander Turok, @Corvinus

    “The arrogance of people who think they can stop a variant of the common cold astonishes me.”

    That would be Fake News on your part.

    https://www.covid-19facts.com/?p=84367

    •�Replies: @Kyle
    @Corvinus

    He means that it’s a respiratory virus that spreads airborne rapidly like a common cold. There is no such thing as the common cold, many different viruses cause it. And some of them are coronaviruses. He’s right. The CDC knows it’s impossible to test & trace this virus out of existence. That’s why they never even tried. It’s not PC to say that publicly so that was never said publicly. That’s why the establishment was so freaked out by this virus in the first place. Once it gets a strong foothold its going to be here forever. ~25 million infections is a strong foothold. It’s like mono that you can get once a year and could kill you. Trust me Corvirus, you can’t stop this.

    Replies: @Corvinus
    , @usNthem
    @Corvinus

    The only people, who, in their arrogance, think they can stop the kung fru - a variant of the common cold, are our “esteemed” politicians. Hey, here’s an idea, let’s lock the economy down and put tens of millions out of work and create ramifications for which no one has any f-ing clue how they’ll play out. However, one thing I can guarantee, is in the main, they won’t be any f-ing good.
  132. @DCThrowback
    @Corvinus

    I used to think you served a purpose, but lately it is clear you do not. Your commentary decline has been noticeable.

    A rise in cases driven by a rise in testing (i.e., anyone who walks into a hospital) has not been accompanied by a similar rise in deaths, thus proving that COVID is only deadly to those who are old, infirmed or someone suffering from something else (perhaps along w/ COVID). In addition, over 45% of COVID deaths in the US are from people in long term healthcare facilities. These numbers were juiced by the (D) governors of NE states like NJ, NY and PA moving patients post-COVID back into those facilities. You tell me whether that was just being stupid or evil. Either way, it should be permanently disqualifying for higher office.

    These (R) governors are choosing to listen to enemy propaganda rather than their own correct intuition, and, as a result, are curtailing the freedoms of their people and delaying their own states' economic recovery. This is not hard for any intelligent person to see. Substituting contrarianism for argument is not just for Monty Python skits.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Alexander Turok, @Polynikes, @Corvinus

    The fact that you think policy decisions about a pandemic should be made on “intuition” tells me all I need to know about how intelligent you really are.

    https://alexanderturok.wordpress.com/2020/06/30/corona-the-basic-question/

  133. @Anonymous Jew
    @Anon

    Because, from an evolutionary standpoint, being Western-level “fat” is unnatural and therefore unattractive. (See hunter-gathers: even with an abundant food supply you can’t get fat eating only deer, kale and the occasional in-season wild fruit).

    Men don’t like model-skinny either. I imagine it looks even worse in person. The modeling and entertainment industry skews heavily gay, so you get thin women with masculine features and bodies (ie big jaws and small hips). As an example, Google Gisele Bundchen and her sister. The former “super model” looks like a tranny (big jaw, small hips) while the aforementioned normal Bundchen looks like a regular attractive woman (small feminine features and child bearing hips).

    I think the non-brainwashed preference has to be for evolutionarily normal female body fat levels (20-30%) and feminine facial features and physique. Not anorexic tranny or artificially fattened up on Twinkies and McDonalds.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Chrisnonymous

    Because, from an evolutionary standpoint, being Western-level “fat” is unnatural and therefore unattractive. (See hunter-gathers: even with an abundant food supply you can’t get fat eating only deer, kale and the occasional in-season wild fruit).

    Men don’t like model-skinny either. I imagine it looks even worse in person. The modeling and entertainment industry skews heavily gay, so you get thin women with masculine features and bodies (ie big jaws and small hips). As an example, Google Gisele Bundchen and her sister. The former “super model” looks like a tranny (big jaw, small hips) while the aforementioned normal Bundchen looks like a regular attractive woman (small feminine features and child bearing hips).

    I think the non-brainwashed preference has to be for evolutionarily normal female body fat levels (20-30%) and feminine facial features and physique. Not anorexic tranny or artificially fattened up on Twinkies and McDonalds.

    Well said AJ.

    Women are attractive when they look like they are *ready* to get pregnant, carry a baby to term and nurse it.

    Not when they look like they are already pregnant or look like boys–that’s the influence of the media’s queers.

    ~~

    (Giesle has Germanic look and good facial symmetry, but mediocre curves–too straight a body–and a not terribly feminine face. A quick google–my preference would be a dip into several of her sisters. Less work, more fun.

    Never understood why Tom Brady settled for this just because she’s a “super model”. The dude makes plenty of money and could have a spectacular, smart, sweet girl, who didn’t have her own career, who’d have given him five or six kids and made him much more reproductively successful. On the other hand she isn’t Megan Markle, LOL.)

    •�Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @AnotherDad

    A lot of supermodels are not much better-looking than other women you can see on the street, assuming your preference for that kind of face/body. So, I have always assumed that the supermodel/runway model success is influenced by some interpersonal factor of charisma that doesn't translate into photos--something that you can detect only in conversation or in person. That would explain why Brady likes her. Plus, she's not digging for gold or overawed by his fame. Plus, his faggy diet indicates some other weird personality quirk he has.
  134. @ben tillman
    @Jonathan Mason


    It seems to me that what we don’t know is why people are being tested who are asymptomatic? And what is the ratio of positive to negative tests?
    Here's what I read on Twitter yesterday from a senior executive of a Texas ER chain: It's largely employer-driven. Emp0loyee at work coughs or sneezes, employer sends employee to be tested. So not asymptomatic but mildly symptomatic. If they test positive they get a steroid shot and perhaps some antibiotics, and they're asymptomatic a few days later.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Here’s what I read on Twitter yesterday from a senior executive of a Texas ER chain…”

    Source?

    •�Replies: @ben tillman
    @Corvinus

    The Twitter poster is named Berenson.
  135. That would be Fake News on your part.

    How about this:

    The arrogance of people who think they can stop a virus that is already endemic, without a vaccine, astonishes me.

  136. @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous Jew

    Anonymous Jew, I reread Peter Freuchen "Book of the Eskimos" last month. Fruechen spent 50 years living with the Eskimos and his first wife was an Eskimo. They were the consumate hunter-gatherers, no agriculture, and the men liked their women plump. Seal and whale loaded with fat and you get plump.

    Replies: @Anonymous Jew, @AnotherDad

    Anonymous Jew, I reread Peter Freuchen “Book of the Eskimos” last month. Fruechen spent 50 years living with the Eskimos and his first wife was an Eskimo. They were the consumate hunter-gatherers, no agriculture, and the men liked their women plump. Seal and whale loaded with fat and you get plump.

    Eskimos were chronically under intense Malthusian pressure–at risk of starvation.

    In such a culture, the evolved preference will be for women who are currently fattened up, as they’ll be much more likely to make it through the next nine months even if the seal hunt or the whale hunt or the salmon run fails.

    In more settled stable environments even if there’s malthusian pressure, the male preference will be for women who are simply adequately nourished and have the normal curves/fat reserves that indicate they are sexually mature and likely to carry a baby to term.

    •�Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @AnotherDad

    Another Dad, Fruechen mentions often that starvation was common in the Artic and sadly mothers would strangle their children rather than see them starve. Also, when food was plentiful they would gorge themselves.
  137. Kyle says:
    @Corvinus
    @botazefa

    "The arrogance of people who think they can stop a variant of the common cold astonishes me."

    That would be Fake News on your part.

    https://www.covid-19facts.com/?p=84367

    Replies: @Kyle, @usNthem

    He means that it’s a respiratory virus that spreads airborne rapidly like a common cold. There is no such thing as the common cold, many different viruses cause it. And some of them are coronaviruses. He’s right. The CDC knows it’s impossible to test & trace this virus out of existence. That’s why they never even tried. It’s not PC to say that publicly so that was never said publicly. That’s why the establishment was so freaked out by this virus in the first place. Once it gets a strong foothold its going to be here forever. ~25 million infections is a strong foothold. It’s like mono that you can get once a year and could kill you. Trust me Corvirus, you can’t stop this.

    •�Replies: @Corvinus
    @Kyle

    "He means that it’s a respiratory virus that spreads airborne rapidly like a common cold."

    No, he did not mean that.

    "There is no such thing as the common cold, many different viruses cause it. And some of them are coronaviruses. He’s right."

    Actually, there is a thing called the "common cold", as well as the "flu". Indeed, both are respiratory illnesses but they are caused by different viruses.

    "That’s why the establishment was so freaked out by this virus in the first place".

    Not the establishment, but leaders of nations and their citizens.

    "Once it gets a strong foothold its going to be here forever. ~25 million infections is a strong foothold."

    Certainly. We shall see how we are going to proceed in the next year. A second wave is imminent. We are not even out of the woods yet with the first wave.
  138. @JimB
    @AnotherDad


    “No one has put a baby here before. (I have no existing babies to look after and will devote myself to yours.)”
    I’m not sure that’s true. What better proof of fertility is there than young age AND motherhood? Dump any kiddies with an earlier mate with their paternal grandparents.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    “No one has put a baby here before. (I have no existing babies to look after and will devote myself to yours.)”

    I’m not sure that’s true. What better proof of fertility is there than young age AND motherhood? Dump any kiddies with an earlier mate with their paternal grandparents.

    That is not natural–or healthy–behavior and certainly not the behavior you’d want the woman to be doing with your baby.

    So you certainly will not have an evolved male preference for it.

    No the preference will always be for “all systems indicate successful launch”–but complete devotion to launching *your* payload not some other dude’s.

    •�Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @AnotherDad

    Cart/horse. Women establish intimacy and pair-bonding loyalty first, then they slyly get you to commit to a project of their choosing which will consume all your time and resources -- after they've got the fish on the line.

    Men are not shopping around for ideal baby receptacles, they are shopping for cute, worshipful, sexy, adoring fan-club presidents, who spring the "guess what news?!" once you're pheromonally hooked.

    Replies: @jsm
  139. @peterike
    Very instructive Twitter post from the great Alex Berenson about the situation in Texas. (Just saw ben tillman's comment: this is probably the post he refers to.)

    https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1277773122301804546

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Berenson is one of the few truth tellers out there. The covid “surge” numbers are being manipulated by the same people who did it initially and for the same reason – get DJT.

  140. Anonymous[146] •�Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    OT: Why don't more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn't fat make for better breeders?

    Replies: @SFG, @Anon, @AnotherDad, @Anonymous Jew, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Anonymous, @jsm, @nebulafox

    Alden, why go anon? We can tell it’s you.

  141. It is a faith article regarding these riots that blacks are totally blameless, and all the window-breaking and arson is the work of evil whites. This extends to the media throwing antifa under the bus after having bickered about their violence or their very existence, and to the never-ending pursuit of Phantom Nazis. It is a demonstration of goodthinking and willful blindness, like pretending to not see patterns in FBI crime statistics: a demanding one given gigs of phone and drone and local news and security camera video.
    A German anon points out though that Seattle is only supposed to be eight per cent black. Are all the blacks in the city demonstrating?

  142. @Buffalo Joe
    @Anonymous Jew

    AJ, just quoting the author of a book about Eskimos. And, again, he spent 50 years living with them. But we're good.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    But when did he live with them? Reindeer herders in Mongolia nominally eat their traditional diet except that they can also get wheat flour, corn oil, and occasional vodka and sugar imported from China. It’s true that in older photos, Alaskan Inuits don’t look obese, although they do look kind of round, not like photos of Australian aborigines who subsist on traditional diets. I suspect they just have a naturally short and squat shape. If you try living on just meat and fat, you will find it is difficult to keep on body fat. Google Shawn Baker and carnivore diet…

    •�Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Chrisnonymous

    Cris, the only animals Eskimos have are their dogs, which they will eat if desperate. Fruechen lived with the Arctic Eskimos in the late 1800s to the early 1900s. Get the book, a great read about the most resurceful people on the planet, well at that time.
  143. @AnotherDad
    @JimB



    “No one has put a baby here before. (I have no existing babies to look after and will devote myself to yours.)”
    I’m not sure that’s true. What better proof of fertility is there than young age AND motherhood? Dump any kiddies with an earlier mate with their paternal grandparents.
    That is not natural--or healthy--behavior and certainly not the behavior you'd want the woman to be doing with your baby.

    So you certainly will not have an evolved male preference for it.

    No the preference will always be for "all systems indicate successful launch"--but complete devotion to launching *your* payload not some other dude's.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Cart/horse. Women establish intimacy and pair-bonding loyalty first, then they slyly get you to commit to a project of their choosing which will consume all your time and resources — after they’ve got the fish on the line.

    Men are not shopping around for ideal baby receptacles, they are shopping for cute, worshipful, sexy, adoring fan-club presidents, who spring the “guess what news?!” once you’re pheromonally hooked.

    •�Replies: @jsm
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Sweetie, you're not getting it.
    What makes 'em cute and sexy? They have a hip to waist ratio of .7 and small jaw and big eyes. Those traits are all under the control of high estrogen. And high estrogen means fertility.

    So, men who found big eyes and .7 h/w attractive and worth pursuing were more likely to sire offspring -- who, of course because preferences are genetically controlled, also like such things.

    That's why what's defined as cute and sexy is what men want. You're genetically programmed to do so, because your reproductively successfully multi-x great grampas did. So yeah, you actually *are* shopping around for baby receptacles; you just don't know it.

    Replies: @ben tillman
  144. @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous Jew



    Because, from an evolutionary standpoint, being Western-level “fat” is unnatural and therefore unattractive. (See hunter-gathers: even with an abundant food supply you can’t get fat eating only deer, kale and the occasional in-season wild fruit).

    Men don’t like model-skinny either. I imagine it looks even worse in person. The modeling and entertainment industry skews heavily gay, so you get thin women with masculine features and bodies (ie big jaws and small hips). As an example, Google Gisele Bundchen and her sister. The former “super model” looks like a tranny (big jaw, small hips) while the aforementioned normal Bundchen looks like a regular attractive woman (small feminine features and child bearing hips).

    I think the non-brainwashed preference has to be for evolutionarily normal female body fat levels (20-30%) and feminine facial features and physique. Not anorexic tranny or artificially fattened up on Twinkies and McDonalds.
    Well said AJ.

    Women are attractive when they look like they are *ready* to get pregnant, carry a baby to term and nurse it.

    Not when they look like they are already pregnant or look like boys--that's the influence of the media's queers.

    ~~

    (Giesle has Germanic look and good facial symmetry, but mediocre curves--too straight a body--and a not terribly feminine face. A quick google--my preference would be a dip into several of her sisters. Less work, more fun.

    Never understood why Tom Brady settled for this just because she's a "super model". The dude makes plenty of money and could have a spectacular, smart, sweet girl, who didn't have her own career, who'd have given him five or six kids and made him much more reproductively successful. On the other hand she isn't Megan Markle, LOL.)

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    A lot of supermodels are not much better-looking than other women you can see on the street, assuming your preference for that kind of face/body. So, I have always assumed that the supermodel/runway model success is influenced by some interpersonal factor of charisma that doesn’t translate into photos–something that you can detect only in conversation or in person. That would explain why Brady likes her. Plus, she’s not digging for gold or overawed by his fame. Plus, his faggy diet indicates some other weird personality quirk he has.

  145. @Steve Sailer
    @Anon

    Architecture is a bad career choice except for trust-funders.

    Replies: @Deepysix, @Ancient Briton

    Somebody should tell George Costanzo quickly.

  146. I think we’ve found out what a Cuomo ‘promise’ is worth. Back in March Cuomo was begging the rest of America to send him help. America did sending ventilators, a huge hospital ship, PPE, medical staff and Cuomo promised he would send help back when other states were in trouble.

    Now we learn that instead of help, Cuomo is prohibiting well over 100 million Americans from even setting foot in his state. Nice Andrew you are a true New Yorker. All take and no give.

    •�Replies: @res
    @unit472


    Now we learn that instead of help, Cuomo is prohibiting well over 100 million Americans from even setting foot in his state. Nice Andrew you are a true New Yorker. All take and no give.
    Also worth remembering the reaction to the idea back in March of restricting the travel of people leaving New York.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/29/new-york-leaders-look-ahead-harrowing-week-154706

    The state’s governor, Gina Raimondo, announced on Friday that Rhode Island police would pull over drivers with New York license plates and force them to self-quarantine for 14 days. Cuomo quickly denounced the policy and threatened to sue.

    “I don’t think the order was called for, I don’t believe it was legal, I don’t believe it was neighborly,” Cuomo said on Sunday, after speaking to his Rhode Island counterpart and receiving assurance that the order would be repealed.
    This page is also worth a look for showing the early mindset.

    https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2020/03/17/new-york-coronavirus-latest-will-new-york-city-have-to-shelter-in-place-be-on-lockdown
  147. @AnotherDad
    @Buffalo Joe


    Anonymous Jew, I reread Peter Freuchen “Book of the Eskimos” last month. Fruechen spent 50 years living with the Eskimos and his first wife was an Eskimo. They were the consumate hunter-gatherers, no agriculture, and the men liked their women plump. Seal and whale loaded with fat and you get plump.
    Eskimos were chronically under intense Malthusian pressure--at risk of starvation.

    In such a culture, the evolved preference will be for women who are currently fattened up, as they'll be much more likely to make it through the next nine months even if the seal hunt or the whale hunt or the salmon run fails.

    In more settled stable environments even if there's malthusian pressure, the male preference will be for women who are simply adequately nourished and have the normal curves/fat reserves that indicate they are sexually mature and likely to carry a baby to term.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Another Dad, Fruechen mentions often that starvation was common in the Artic and sadly mothers would strangle their children rather than see them starve. Also, when food was plentiful they would gorge themselves.

  148. @anon
    @Intelligent Dasein

    Where have I seen that guy in the video before?

    https://www.unz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Screenshot-2019-10-03-19.47.57.png

    Replies: @Ray P

    He’d be six nine with an full afro.

  149. @Alexander Turok
    @botazefa


    The arrogance of people who think they can stop a variant of the common cold astonishes me.
    Yet China did so. Your perception of arrogance is likely due to you projecting your own incapability onto others. If everyone was a smart as you, it would indeed be arrogant for any of them to say they could stop coronavirus.

    Replies: @botazefa

    Yet China did so. Your perception of arrogance is likely due to you projecting your own incapability onto others.

    China has another outbreak, if you believe CNN.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/asia/coronavirus-beijing-outbreak-intl-hnk/index.html

    I’m not projecting. I’m observing that SARS CoV2 is still spreading in the face of lockdowns, social distancing, and masks.

  150. @Corvinus
    @botazefa

    "The arrogance of people who think they can stop a variant of the common cold astonishes me."

    That would be Fake News on your part.

    https://www.covid-19facts.com/?p=84367

    Replies: @Kyle, @usNthem

    The only people, who, in their arrogance, think they can stop the kung fru – a variant of the common cold, are our “esteemed” politicians. Hey, here’s an idea, let’s lock the economy down and put tens of millions out of work and create ramifications for which no one has any f-ing clue how they’ll play out. However, one thing I can guarantee, is in the main, they won’t be any f-ing good.

  151. @Carol
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    She gets away with this because she's a little old lady. The day is coming when they knock her down and kick her in the head til her IQ is as low as Floyd's was.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @res, @Kratoklastes

    My thoughts exactly: she is relying on the people observing social norms like “Don’t kick the fuck out of old women who mouth off“. She’s ‘brave’ because she knows that society is still intact.

    There were very few old women upbraiding people in Podrinje or Bratunak (or, later, central Srebrenica) or in Sniper Alley in Sarajevo.

    All these folk bleating about the current puerile nonsense, need to pull their fucking heads out of their asses and examine what it looks like on the ground when “Don’t kick the fuck out of old women who mouth off” is actually completely off the table.

    Then examine the situation leading up to periods where that happens – and notice that the final lurch to societal collapse is easy to spot, and the conditions for that are entirely absent in the current US bullshit (which is largely carried out by a campaign of microaggressions on Twitter, and some damage to statuary).

    The whole thing is barely more aggressive than the average snit between gay dudes over interior design.

  152. bruce county says:
    @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    PS why would dems ever want to dump Biden before the election? The plan is to dump him right afterward.

    Replies: @Barnard, @bruce county

    He will die in office. Then Abrams will rule over her new African Kingdom. The Uganda State of America.

  153. @Clifford Brown
    Italian American Grandma lays down the law. All it takes is for a few normal people to stand up to them. The revolution only works because good and decent Americans are staying indoors creating the illusion of a popular mass movement. It is a simulated revolution.

    https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1277371107612528647

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @NJ Transit Commuter, @Goddard, @res, @syonredux, @J.Ross

    An over-confident and unopposed minority of crazy people with foreign support is how the Soviet Union happened.

  154. @Kyle
    @Corvinus

    He means that it’s a respiratory virus that spreads airborne rapidly like a common cold. There is no such thing as the common cold, many different viruses cause it. And some of them are coronaviruses. He’s right. The CDC knows it’s impossible to test & trace this virus out of existence. That’s why they never even tried. It’s not PC to say that publicly so that was never said publicly. That’s why the establishment was so freaked out by this virus in the first place. Once it gets a strong foothold its going to be here forever. ~25 million infections is a strong foothold. It’s like mono that you can get once a year and could kill you. Trust me Corvirus, you can’t stop this.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “He means that it’s a respiratory virus that spreads airborne rapidly like a common cold.”

    No, he did not mean that.

    “There is no such thing as the common cold, many different viruses cause it. And some of them are coronaviruses. He’s right.”

    Actually, there is a thing called the “common cold”, as well as the “flu”. Indeed, both are respiratory illnesses but they are caused by different viruses.

    “That’s why the establishment was so freaked out by this virus in the first place”.

    Not the establishment, but leaders of nations and their citizens.

    “Once it gets a strong foothold its going to be here forever. ~25 million infections is a strong foothold.”

    Certainly. We shall see how we are going to proceed in the next year. A second wave is imminent. We are not even out of the woods yet with the first wave.

  155. Kyle says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    It has seemed like quite a few people we know have been obsessed with this thing.

    I am always amazed at the stupid ways politicians and communicators of every kind try to make concepts understandable to a majority that can't grasp things like Cartesian graphs, rates of change, or much of anything besides "food, car, job, poop, sex," (not necessarily in that order).

    A novelist once told me that to be a successful writer, whatever you put out has to be about the four Fs: Fighting, Fleeing, Feeding, and Fucking.

    Replies: @Kyle

    I don’t think governor Cuomo or his team can grasp Cartesian coordinates. Someone on his team can and it started off as a great idea to visualize “the curve.” But a critical mass of his team are idiots. Something got lost in translation. The love-gov is left hung out to dry with a creepy foam science fair project sputtering an incoherent sound byte, “You don’t want to climb this mountain.” I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. It’s only a 30 second video clip. Maybe watching the full version he would explain what the x and y axis represents. But no, he’s kinda just rambling out sound bytes. The same ones repeatedly.

    If I were his speech writer I would say something like this.
    “Day zero was this date. This date is significant because it’s the day we realized that this virus was widespread & deadly. On day zero I implemented policy X. Spread of the virus accelerated and then plateaued on day 42, because of the policy I implemented and because New Yorkers were following proper CDC guidelines. As you can see day 42 saw the highest single day number of deaths. That was the peak of the mountain. The number of deaths then tapered out between day 42 and day 111. The total number of deaths is equal to the area under the curve, which is ∫ f(x) from day 1 to day 111. Essentially taking the number of deaths on each individual day and adding them all together. As you can see people are still dying on day 111. The number of deaths is not back down to zero, which means the virus is still spreading. We can’t afford to let our guard down; continue to follow CDC guidelines. If you don’t we will climb this mountain again and a lot more people will die. You don’t want to climb this mountain again.”

    That’s got to be close to what Cuomo’s speech writer originally had written. It’s the only thing that makes sense. But he’s just a divvy. He has no stage presence, he can’t think on his feet. He doesn’t practice his speeches in front of the mirror the night before. These are our leaders.

    •�Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Kyle

    This is calling out for an anti-Cuomo parody song based on Big Rock Candy Mountain...

    "...so come with me, and we'll go see,
    the big peak COVID mountain."

    I don't have time now, but the first rhyme for mountain that springs to mind is "countin' "...
  156. @Daniel Williams
    @Corvinus


    ... an increasing number of Americans, as evident by the spikes in Arizona, Texas, and Florida.
    Isn’t it crazy how it’s happening in those particular, electorally significant states? Almost seems ... ginned up.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Isn’t it crazy how it’s happening in those particular, electorally significant states?”

    When those states opened up too early and now are dialing it back, yes, it is crazy.

    “Almost seems … ginned up.”

    Not in the slightest.

  157. @Jonathan Mason
    @DCThrowback

    Yeah, I agree, at least I think so.

    The argument that more testing is leading to higher statistics without the epidemic actually getting worse is confusing.

    It seems to me that what we don't know is why people are being tested who are asymptomatic? And what is the ratio of positive to negative tests?

    And when they test positive does this mean that they have Covid 19 with no symptoms but are able to spread it or does it just mean that they are pre-symptomatic and about to develop symptoms and enter a more contagious phase when they will spread it by coughing?

    To me it makes no sense to be tested if you are asymptomatic, because if you test negative there is no knowing whether you might test positive the next day.

    So to make sense of it we need to know what percentage of people who are being tested are symptomatic and what percentage of people are not symptomatic. And we don't have that information. Maybe President Trump and the governors do, but we don't.

    Replies: @Lars Porsena, @AnotherDad, @ben tillman, @Corvinus, @Polynikes

    “So to make sense of it we need to know what percentage of people who are being tested are symptomatic and what percentage of people are not symptomatic. And we don’t have that information.”

    It seems to me that we do have that information.

    https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/06/01/asymptomatic-patients

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200612172208

    https://www.thecut.com/2020/06/how-many-people-with-the-coronavirus-are-asymptomatic.html

    •�Replies: @Jonathan Mason
    @Corvinus

    Thanks, Corvinus. The Science Daily link is down. The other two links mention various studies that have produced various hypotheses however you cannot look at, for example, the Florida Covid-19 dashboard and immediately see how many tests were carried out on a particular day and how many of them were positive and how many of the positive testees had symptoms

    Also it is not clear if mass testing is going on as screening, for example in prisons or in the military, or whether tests are doctor ordered to rule out CV-19 or just tests that people volunteer for out of curiosity, or the curiosity of their employer, or as part of a contact tracing process.

    Or, as Polynikes pointed out below, if the same people are being double counted on more than one test, whether negative or positive

    What I do know is that these tests are still quite hard to come by in the area where I live, and I have only actually personally known of one person who had the illness.

    I have been to the doctors myself a couple of times for lab work during the Covid-19 era and have never been offered a test, so it appears that mass screening is not going on in my area. (My primary care provider for Medicare is the local Department of Health.)

    The one case I personally know is a very fit and healthy man of 70 who ended up in the intensive care for several weeks and very nearly died. His doctors twice told his wife that he was not going to make it, but he did and he is now back at work in his dental practice.
  158. @Jonathan Mason
    @DCThrowback

    Yeah, I agree, at least I think so.

    The argument that more testing is leading to higher statistics without the epidemic actually getting worse is confusing.

    It seems to me that what we don't know is why people are being tested who are asymptomatic? And what is the ratio of positive to negative tests?

    And when they test positive does this mean that they have Covid 19 with no symptoms but are able to spread it or does it just mean that they are pre-symptomatic and about to develop symptoms and enter a more contagious phase when they will spread it by coughing?

    To me it makes no sense to be tested if you are asymptomatic, because if you test negative there is no knowing whether you might test positive the next day.

    So to make sense of it we need to know what percentage of people who are being tested are symptomatic and what percentage of people are not symptomatic. And we don't have that information. Maybe President Trump and the governors do, but we don't.

    Replies: @Lars Porsena, @AnotherDad, @ben tillman, @Corvinus, @Polynikes

    Couple reasons:

    – Hospitals are testing everyone

    – So are other institutions

    – Positive people get retested every day and counted as new positive cases

    – In some cases anti-body results are being mixed in with viral results

  159. @DCThrowback
    @Corvinus

    I used to think you served a purpose, but lately it is clear you do not. Your commentary decline has been noticeable.

    A rise in cases driven by a rise in testing (i.e., anyone who walks into a hospital) has not been accompanied by a similar rise in deaths, thus proving that COVID is only deadly to those who are old, infirmed or someone suffering from something else (perhaps along w/ COVID). In addition, over 45% of COVID deaths in the US are from people in long term healthcare facilities. These numbers were juiced by the (D) governors of NE states like NJ, NY and PA moving patients post-COVID back into those facilities. You tell me whether that was just being stupid or evil. Either way, it should be permanently disqualifying for higher office.

    These (R) governors are choosing to listen to enemy propaganda rather than their own correct intuition, and, as a result, are curtailing the freedoms of their people and delaying their own states' economic recovery. This is not hard for any intelligent person to see. Substituting contrarianism for argument is not just for Monty Python skits.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Alexander Turok, @Polynikes, @Corvinus

    The R govs are listening to polling that shows Rs struggling with the +65 group because the media successfully scared the shit out of them.

  160. @Corvinus
    @peterike

    "He takes “unnamed sources” from the NY Times and WaPo to be arbiters of truth"

    The intelligence was considered significant and credible enough that it was included in the President’s Daily Brief. It is a collection of the most significant analysis on issues affecting national security and foreign policy. Leading Republican lawmakers confirmed its contents. Trump lied about NOT viewing it. Now why would he other than tell the truth here? I get it, though. Your deep affection for Trump clouds your judgement.

    Replies: @Peterike

    More “unnamed sources.” Dude, the MSM lies to you. Every day. It’s what they do. Wine Aunts, soy men and grade schoolers are the only people left who believe them. Which are you?

    •�Replies: @Corvinus
    @Peterike

    "More “unnamed sources.” Dude, the MSM lies to you. Every day. It’s what they do. Wine Aunts, soy men and grade schoolers are the only people left who believe them. Which are you?"

    It is virtually impossible to argue with people such as yourself who cling on this “Fake New” or “media lies” meme. Any argument brought to the table, they immediately attack the SOURCE, rather than the substance. Thus, it is easy to deny there is ANY evidence at all. This phenomenon has been brewing for a long time, and it has reached a critical mass at our point in world history. Unfortunately, more people become ignorant by facilitating echo chambers and confirmation bias. Rather than yell at the top of one’s lungs “Fake News” when they read a mainstream or alternative media story, and immediately discount everything, people ought look CRITICALLY at the facts, consider any bias, read other sources on the issue, and then draw their own conclusions, realizing that those conclusions will require verification from valid sources when challenged.

    Stated in a different way, "Fake News" is a farce, a joke. It leads people to become patently ill-informed. How? Because all it takes is someone to utter that phrase, and the assumption becomes “true”. A person who desires to be informed delves into the matter by perusing several sources and by astutely investigating one’s own recency or confirmation biases. In this manner, the person is more likely to arrive at a more objective finding of the available facts. Instead, anything that does not automatically fit into one’s crafted narrative as “fact” or “truth” becomes “Fake News”.

    Do you enjoy being a dope and a dupe?
  161. @res
    @Clifford Brown

    Thanks. I think the video following that is even better.

    https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1277372267945738240

    Replies: @anon, @Clyde

    Bingo on the second video which I have seen before. She is very well spoken. “This is not about race. It never really was.”

    •�Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Clyde

    She has dabbled in local politics, having unsuccessfully run for a NYC state senator-ship. This incident might prove to be the impetus for another try.
  162. @AnotherDad
    @Anon


    OT: Why don’t more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn’t fat make for better breeders?
    Men naturally prefer women whose bodies say:

    "There's space for your baby here, and i'll be able bring it to term and feed it."

    and most desirably

    "No one has put a baby here before. (I have no existing babies to look after and will devote myself to yours.)"

    Replies: @JimB, @Achmed E. Newman, @anon, @MBlanc46

    And women will never understand why that should be the case.

  163. jsm says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @AnotherDad

    Cart/horse. Women establish intimacy and pair-bonding loyalty first, then they slyly get you to commit to a project of their choosing which will consume all your time and resources -- after they've got the fish on the line.

    Men are not shopping around for ideal baby receptacles, they are shopping for cute, worshipful, sexy, adoring fan-club presidents, who spring the "guess what news?!" once you're pheromonally hooked.

    Replies: @jsm

    Sweetie, you’re not getting it.
    What makes ’em cute and sexy? They have a hip to waist ratio of .7 and small jaw and big eyes. Those traits are all under the control of high estrogen. And high estrogen means fertility.

    So, men who found big eyes and .7 h/w attractive and worth pursuing were more likely to sire offspring — who, of course because preferences are genetically controlled, also like such things.

    That’s why what’s defined as cute and sexy is what men want. You’re genetically programmed to do so, because your reproductively successfully multi-x great grampas did. So yeah, you actually *are* shopping around for baby receptacles; you just don’t know it.

    •�Replies: @ben tillman
    @jsm


    What makes ’em cute and sexy? They have a hip to waist ratio of .7 . . . .
    Waist-to-hip ratio of .7, I hope.
  164. @Clyde
    @res

    Bingo on the second video which I have seen before. She is very well spoken. "This is not about race. It never really was."

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    She has dabbled in local politics, having unsuccessfully run for a NYC state senator-ship. This incident might prove to be the impetus for another try.

  165. jsm says:
    @Anon
    OT: Why don't more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn't fat make for better breeders?

    Replies: @SFG, @Anon, @AnotherDad, @Anonymous Jew, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Anonymous, @jsm, @nebulafox

    No, not beyond a certain level.

    Women who are fat in childbearing years often have PCOS as the cause. PCOS interferes with ovulation. Good insulin levels are necessary for general health and fertility, which PCOS sufferers tend to have excessive insulin.

    And, women in childbearing years who are fat, beyond a certain level, for reasons besides PCOS, also have fertility problems, because fat of itself makes estrogen. Excess estrogen interferes with FSH, so again, difficulty with ovulation.

    Ideal fat levels for childbearing are 20-30 percent of weight is body fat.

  166. @Corvinus
    @ben tillman

    "Here’s what I read on Twitter yesterday from a senior executive of a Texas ER chain..."

    Source?

    Replies: @ben tillman

    The Twitter poster is named Berenson.

  167. @Corvinus
    @ChrisZ

    "But our supposed authorities are in the psychological position of the Soviet leadership of the late 1980s..."

    With Trump taking it to whole another level. But do not expect our resident pattern recognizer to offer his take on such matters.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53231840

    Replies: @peterike, @anon, @botazefa, @Alexander Turok, @Stack Over Glow

    Stick to attacking Trump on COVID-19. Not many of us have trust in the deep-state peep-state creep-state system.

  168. @anon
    @res


    “This is not about race anymore. It never really was. This is about taking apart the fabric of America.”
    ... which is based on race. All of those statues and monuments had one thing in common: they're all of white men, or at least that's what the crowd thinks. Conservatives -- The Daily Caller in this case -- are worthless. They lie and deflect constantly in order to defend liberalism. There is an obvious racial component here. Have none of these people seen the graffiti painted on these monuments? Black Lives Matter, White Supremacy, 1609 ... x countless other slogans. The many stories covered here on this blog and elsewhere make it plain as day, so stop fooling yourselves with happy talk. Blacks, social climbing POC, and SJW whites (who've been brainwashed to hate themselves by the education establishment) have torn down our society with a blatantly racial motivation in mind. They've said it directly.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    Despite her contrary protestations, the lady in question (like Tucker Carlson) knows that it is all about race. But the proprieties must be observed!

  169. @anon
    @Corvinus


    " But do not expect our resident pattern recognizer to offer his take on such matters. "
    Says the troll who is constantly BTFO'd in the comments and doesn't have the intellect to get his own blog.

    Replies: @Stack Over Glow

    He’s BTFO when commenting on BLM, but is usually right on when talking about covid. Is he a troll? Maybe. But just as “you’re just a kid” is not evidence that the Emperor is wearing mighty fine clothes, you could prove he was an IP in Tel Aviv and that wouldn’t change the fact that Trump has mismanaged the pandemic.

  170. @jsm
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    Sweetie, you're not getting it.
    What makes 'em cute and sexy? They have a hip to waist ratio of .7 and small jaw and big eyes. Those traits are all under the control of high estrogen. And high estrogen means fertility.

    So, men who found big eyes and .7 h/w attractive and worth pursuing were more likely to sire offspring -- who, of course because preferences are genetically controlled, also like such things.

    That's why what's defined as cute and sexy is what men want. You're genetically programmed to do so, because your reproductively successfully multi-x great grampas did. So yeah, you actually *are* shopping around for baby receptacles; you just don't know it.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    What makes ’em cute and sexy? They have a hip to waist ratio of .7 . . . .

    Waist-to-hip ratio of .7, I hope.

    •�LOL: PiltdownMan, res
  171. @DCThrowback
    @Corvinus

    I used to think you served a purpose, but lately it is clear you do not. Your commentary decline has been noticeable.

    A rise in cases driven by a rise in testing (i.e., anyone who walks into a hospital) has not been accompanied by a similar rise in deaths, thus proving that COVID is only deadly to those who are old, infirmed or someone suffering from something else (perhaps along w/ COVID). In addition, over 45% of COVID deaths in the US are from people in long term healthcare facilities. These numbers were juiced by the (D) governors of NE states like NJ, NY and PA moving patients post-COVID back into those facilities. You tell me whether that was just being stupid or evil. Either way, it should be permanently disqualifying for higher office.

    These (R) governors are choosing to listen to enemy propaganda rather than their own correct intuition, and, as a result, are curtailing the freedoms of their people and delaying their own states' economic recovery. This is not hard for any intelligent person to see. Substituting contrarianism for argument is not just for Monty Python skits.

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason, @Alexander Turok, @Polynikes, @Corvinus

    “A rise in cases driven by a rise in testing (i.e., anyone who walks into a hospital) has not been accompanied by a similar rise in deaths…”

    There is nuance here you should consider.

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/06/models-show-rising-us-covid-19-cases-deaths-months-ahead

    “thus proving that COVID is only deadly to those who are old, infirmed or someone suffering from something else (perhaps along w/ COVID).”

    Half of the new COVID-19 cases detected in recent weeks have been in adults under 35, Vice President Mike Pence said today during a press conference held by the White House coronavirus task force—the first press conference by the group in nearly 2 months.

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/06/covid-19-cases-among-us-young-adults-spike

    “These numbers were juiced by the (D) governors of NE states like NJ, NY and PA moving patients post-COVID back into those facilities.”

    Sources?

    “These (R) governors are choosing to listen to enemy propaganda rather than their own correct intuition…”

    Are you implying that the advice of health care professionals constitutes “enemy propaganda”?

    “as a result, are curtailing the freedoms of their people”

    In a health care emergency of national and international standing, there will be decisions made to ensure the safety of citizens. It’s called being responsive to the general welfare of the people.

  172. @Peterike
    @Corvinus

    More “unnamed sources.” Dude, the MSM lies to you. Every day. It’s what they do. Wine Aunts, soy men and grade schoolers are the only people left who believe them. Which are you?

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “More “unnamed sources.” Dude, the MSM lies to you. Every day. It’s what they do. Wine Aunts, soy men and grade schoolers are the only people left who believe them. Which are you?”

    It is virtually impossible to argue with people such as yourself who cling on this “Fake New” or “media lies” meme. Any argument brought to the table, they immediately attack the SOURCE, rather than the substance. Thus, it is easy to deny there is ANY evidence at all. This phenomenon has been brewing for a long time, and it has reached a critical mass at our point in world history. Unfortunately, more people become ignorant by facilitating echo chambers and confirmation bias. Rather than yell at the top of one’s lungs “Fake News” when they read a mainstream or alternative media story, and immediately discount everything, people ought look CRITICALLY at the facts, consider any bias, read other sources on the issue, and then draw their own conclusions, realizing that those conclusions will require verification from valid sources when challenged.

    Stated in a different way, “Fake News” is a farce, a joke. It leads people to become patently ill-informed. How? Because all it takes is someone to utter that phrase, and the assumption becomes “true”. A person who desires to be informed delves into the matter by perusing several sources and by astutely investigating one’s own recency or confirmation biases. In this manner, the person is more likely to arrive at a more objective finding of the available facts. Instead, anything that does not automatically fit into one’s crafted narrative as “fact” or “truth” becomes “Fake News”.

    Do you enjoy being a dope and a dupe?

  173. As to Biden’s mental competency:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGXLdMuM7EY

    I watched the first few minutes of a Biden speech from today. He seemed lucid. Is dementia cyclical? Maybe off vs. on meds? Or are bad moments are related to fatigue?

    It’s confusing.

  174. @Kyle
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I don’t think governor Cuomo or his team can grasp Cartesian coordinates. Someone on his team can and it started off as a great idea to visualize “the curve.” But a critical mass of his team are idiots. Something got lost in translation. The love-gov is left hung out to dry with a creepy foam science fair project sputtering an incoherent sound byte, “You don’t want to climb this mountain.” I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. It’s only a 30 second video clip. Maybe watching the full version he would explain what the x and y axis represents. But no, he’s kinda just rambling out sound bytes. The same ones repeatedly. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aRUqkQ5NL08
    If I were his speech writer I would say something like this.
    “Day zero was this date. This date is significant because it’s the day we realized that this virus was widespread & deadly. On day zero I implemented policy X. Spread of the virus accelerated and then plateaued on day 42, because of the policy I implemented and because New Yorkers were following proper CDC guidelines. As you can see day 42 saw the highest single day number of deaths. That was the peak of the mountain. The number of deaths then tapered out between day 42 and day 111. The total number of deaths is equal to the area under the curve, which is ∫ f(x) from day 1 to day 111. Essentially taking the number of deaths on each individual day and adding them all together. As you can see people are still dying on day 111. The number of deaths is not back down to zero, which means the virus is still spreading. We can’t afford to let our guard down; continue to follow CDC guidelines. If you don’t we will climb this mountain again and a lot more people will die. You don’t want to climb this mountain again.”

    That’s got to be close to what Cuomo’s speech writer originally had written. It’s the only thing that makes sense. But he’s just a divvy. He has no stage presence, he can’t think on his feet. He doesn’t practice his speeches in front of the mirror the night before. These are our leaders.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    This is calling out for an anti-Cuomo parody song based on Big Rock Candy Mountain…

    “…so come with me, and we’ll go see,
    the big peak COVID mountain.”

    I don’t have time now, but the first rhyme for mountain that springs to mind is “countin’ “…

  175. @Anonymous Jew
    @Anon

    Because, from an evolutionary standpoint, being Western-level “fat” is unnatural and therefore unattractive. (See hunter-gathers: even with an abundant food supply you can’t get fat eating only deer, kale and the occasional in-season wild fruit).

    Men don’t like model-skinny either. I imagine it looks even worse in person. The modeling and entertainment industry skews heavily gay, so you get thin women with masculine features and bodies (ie big jaws and small hips). As an example, Google Gisele Bundchen and her sister. The former “super model” looks like a tranny (big jaw, small hips) while the aforementioned normal Bundchen looks like a regular attractive woman (small feminine features and child bearing hips).

    I think the non-brainwashed preference has to be for evolutionarily normal female body fat levels (20-30%) and feminine facial features and physique. Not anorexic tranny or artificially fattened up on Twinkies and McDonalds.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @AnotherDad, @Chrisnonymous

    You know what we haven’t had on iSteve in a long time?

    Paul Walker news!

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CCBgvw_jn2w/

    Question:

    Who is hotter? Gisele vs Paul Walker’s daughter?

    I’m going with Paul Walker’s daughter….
    https://www.deseret.com/entertainment/2020/6/30/21308360/paul-walker-vin-diesel-children

    •�Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    I'd sort of assumed Vin Diesel was gay because you didn't hear much about his private life, but it turns out he has got three kids. He named his youngest, Pauline (b. 2015) after Paul Walker (d. 2013).
  176. @Chrisnonymous
    @Anonymous Jew

    You know what we haven't had on iSteve in a long time?

    Paul Walker news!

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CCBgvw_jn2w/

    Question:

    Who is hotter? Gisele vs Paul Walker's daughter?

    I'm going with Paul Walker's daughter....
    https://www.deseret.com/entertainment/2020/6/30/21308360/paul-walker-vin-diesel-children

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I’d sort of assumed Vin Diesel was gay because you didn’t hear much about his private life, but it turns out he has got three kids. He named his youngest, Pauline (b. 2015) after Paul Walker (d. 2013).

  177. @Steve Sailer
    @Deepysix

    Going to architecture school is good for the employers of graduates of architecture school, but is it good for the graduates of architecture school?

    Replies: @Deepysix

    I’m not good at riddles, so I will just guess uh… no?

    Or is this an Wildean epigram, not meant to be answered?

  178. @Anon
    OT: Why don't more men prefer fat women to slender? Doesn't fat make for better breeders?

    Replies: @SFG, @Anon, @AnotherDad, @Anonymous Jew, @Alec Leamas (hard at work), @Anonymous, @jsm, @nebulafox

    What most men actually like in real life and what a fashion industry dominated by “camp” homosexual men says most men like can diverge wildly. I can count the number of men I’ve met who find bulimics attractive on one hand: they exist, but so do men who like women who are twice their weight. We’re wired to be attracted to women precisely *because* they are different, not hard and angular like us.

    That does not translate into finding obesity attractive, but for a large amount of American men, it’s either a fat woman or no woman at all. There’s no analogue with “too-thin” women demographically. Mind, it’s not as if American men are doing themselves any favors. Slovenly appearances and obesity in the US are agnostic to sex, as is the general lack of focus on becoming a good partner rather than obsessing over getting one.

    (I have noticed that it does revolve heavily around class status, though. Being in shape is increasingly a wealth indicator.)

  179. @Anonymous Jew
    @Buffalo Joe

    I did a couple image searches to find pre-Western Eskimos, and all the photos that I saw were of a relatively lean people. At the most, they look to be on the thick side for hunter-gatherers (what Americans call lean to normal). I don’t believe most humans can get fat on our natural diet. It takes unnaturally high-glycemic foods - ie recently invented refined grains and sugars.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @nebulafox

    To some degree, there is a genetic component as well: some people are never going to be thin no matter what they try, even if they are in peak physical health, and women tend to have more body fat in the first place because they give birth. And that’s just fine: a lot of men do not want classically thin women, contra traditional pop culture.

    But there’s a huge, absolutely astronomical difference between that and the obesity epidemic you see in the United States, and increasingly elsewhere in the world. The latter is the direct result of lifestyle, not genetics. Modern American-style obesity simply does not exist in an environment where there’s no junk food and you have to exert physical effort every day.

  180. @res
    @Deepysix


    People who can get through Archtitecture School are eminently employable.
    Can you give an idea of how much of that is value added by the school and how much is just this?

    all of the Architecture majors I have known are super smart
    I think engineering (my background) teaches habits and techniques of thought which are broadly applicable. I am guessing architecture does the same, but would be interested in hearing about what those specifically are and how they might differ from other fields.

    Replies: @Deepysix

    My only point was that Architecture grads are near-uniformly smart and ultimately mostly successful, whether they are short-shrifted by potential employers in their chosen field (as Sailer implies) or not.

    “Habits and techniques of thought” are indeed broadly applicable, and explain success in every useful field of endeavor.

    •�Replies: @res
    @Deepysix


    My only point was that Architecture grads are near-uniformly smart and ultimately mostly successful,
    My comment was agreeing with that.

    whether they are short-shrifted by potential employers in their chosen field (as Sailer implies) or not.
    But I don't think that was what Steve was implying. I took his comment more as asking how good a job architecture programs did of developing the talents of those smart people. Especially for those who end up pursuing careers in other fields. Perhaps also whether architecture as a field is well stocked with good paying jobs relative to the number of people who study it. Maybe Steve could clarify?

    “Habits and techniques of thought” are indeed broadly applicable, and explain success in every useful field of endeavor.
    OK. Could you elaborate what forms of those an architecture program develops? I am guessing a combination of quantitative thinking and visual design along with a practical streak given that buildings have to actually be built and last in the real world.

    But I would prefer to hear the perspective of someone who knows from experience rather than guessing (no matter how good I might be at guessing ; ).

    P.S. Another factor is how good a field of study is at weeding out the less smart and motivated. Making the degree more valuable as a credential signalling those characteristics.
  181. @Redman
    @Deepysix

    Her voice was great. Speak for yourself.

    Replies: @Deepysix

    I WAS speaking for myself.

    To clarify, I like her and her voice and her convictions. Other people don’t.

  182. @Corvinus
    @Jonathan Mason

    "So to make sense of it we need to know what percentage of people who are being tested are symptomatic and what percentage of people are not symptomatic. And we don’t have that information."

    It seems to me that we do have that information.

    https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/06/01/asymptomatic-patients

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200612172208

    https://www.thecut.com/2020/06/how-many-people-with-the-coronavirus-are-asymptomatic.html

    Replies: @Jonathan Mason

    Thanks, Corvinus. The Science Daily link is down. The other two links mention various studies that have produced various hypotheses however you cannot look at, for example, the Florida Covid-19 dashboard and immediately see how many tests were carried out on a particular day and how many of them were positive and how many of the positive testees had symptoms

    Also it is not clear if mass testing is going on as screening, for example in prisons or in the military, or whether tests are doctor ordered to rule out CV-19 or just tests that people volunteer for out of curiosity, or the curiosity of their employer, or as part of a contact tracing process.

    Or, as Polynikes pointed out below, if the same people are being double counted on more than one test, whether negative or positive

    What I do know is that these tests are still quite hard to come by in the area where I live, and I have only actually personally known of one person who had the illness.

    I have been to the doctors myself a couple of times for lab work during the Covid-19 era and have never been offered a test, so it appears that mass screening is not going on in my area. (My primary care provider for Medicare is the local Department of Health.)

    The one case I personally know is a very fit and healthy man of 70 who ended up in the intensive care for several weeks and very nearly died. His doctors twice told his wife that he was not going to make it, but he did and he is now back at work in his dental practice.

  183. res says:
    @unit472
    I think we've found out what a Cuomo 'promise' is worth. Back in March Cuomo was begging the rest of America to send him help. America did sending ventilators, a huge hospital ship, PPE, medical staff and Cuomo promised he would send help back when other states were in trouble.

    Now we learn that instead of help, Cuomo is prohibiting well over 100 million Americans from even setting foot in his state. Nice Andrew you are a true New Yorker. All take and no give.

    Replies: @res

    Now we learn that instead of help, Cuomo is prohibiting well over 100 million Americans from even setting foot in his state. Nice Andrew you are a true New Yorker. All take and no give.

    Also worth remembering the reaction to the idea back in March of restricting the travel of people leaving New York.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/29/new-york-leaders-look-ahead-harrowing-week-154706

    The state’s governor, Gina Raimondo, announced on Friday that Rhode Island police would pull over drivers with New York license plates and force them to self-quarantine for 14 days. Cuomo quickly denounced the policy and threatened to sue.

    “I don’t think the order was called for, I don’t believe it was legal, I don’t believe it was neighborly,” Cuomo said on Sunday, after speaking to his Rhode Island counterpart and receiving assurance that the order would be repealed.

    This page is also worth a look for showing the early mindset.

    https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2020/03/17/new-york-coronavirus-latest-will-new-york-city-have-to-shelter-in-place-be-on-lockdown

  184. res says:
    @Deepysix
    @res

    My only point was that Architecture grads are near-uniformly smart and ultimately mostly successful, whether they are short-shrifted by potential employers in their chosen field (as Sailer implies) or not.

    “Habits and techniques of thought” are indeed broadly applicable, and explain success in every useful field of endeavor.

    Replies: @res

    My only point was that Architecture grads are near-uniformly smart and ultimately mostly successful,

    My comment was agreeing with that.

    whether they are short-shrifted by potential employers in their chosen field (as Sailer implies) or not.

    But I don’t think that was what Steve was implying. I took his comment more as asking how good a job architecture programs did of developing the talents of those smart people. Especially for those who end up pursuing careers in other fields. Perhaps also whether architecture as a field is well stocked with good paying jobs relative to the number of people who study it. Maybe Steve could clarify?

    “Habits and techniques of thought” are indeed broadly applicable, and explain success in every useful field of endeavor.

    OK. Could you elaborate what forms of those an architecture program develops? I am guessing a combination of quantitative thinking and visual design along with a practical streak given that buildings have to actually be built and last in the real world.

    But I would prefer to hear the perspective of someone who knows from experience rather than guessing (no matter how good I might be at guessing ; ).

    P.S. Another factor is how good a field of study is at weeding out the less smart and motivated. Making the degree more valuable as a credential signalling those characteristics.

  185. @Chrisnonymous
    @Buffalo Joe

    But when did he live with them? Reindeer herders in Mongolia nominally eat their traditional diet except that they can also get wheat flour, corn oil, and occasional vodka and sugar imported from China. It's true that in older photos, Alaskan Inuits don't look obese, although they do look kind of round, not like photos of Australian aborigines who subsist on traditional diets. I suspect they just have a naturally short and squat shape. If you try living on just meat and fat, you will find it is difficult to keep on body fat. Google Shawn Baker and carnivore diet...

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Cris, the only animals Eskimos have are their dogs, which they will eat if desperate. Fruechen lived with the Arctic Eskimos in the late 1800s to the early 1900s. Get the book, a great read about the most resurceful people on the planet, well at that time.

  186. @Steve Sailer
    @Intelligent Dasein

    I once was standing in line behind Valerie Jackson at the Kinko's: in person, she talks exactly like she did on TV, only more so.

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    Hot off the RedLetterMedia press:

    UHF – re:View

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