December 11, 2024 8:11 AM
tom on Jailbreaking LLM-Controlled Robots :
December 11, 2024 8:11 AM
tom on Jailbreaking LLM-Controlled Robots :
December 11, 2024 6:18 AM
GregW on Full-Face Masks to Frustrate Identification :
Not a silver bullet for countering the surveilance state… haven’t firms willing to sell to law enforcement been working on automated height and weight analysis and gait analysis for years?
That’s right, besides the mask, you also need to wear high heels and a fat suit and put rocks in your shoes… although maybe high heels will be enough of a change you don’t need the rocks to change your gait?
...December 10, 2024 11:46 PM
ResearcherZero on Full-Face Masks to Frustrate Identification :
This does fool people up close.
VS backdoor
‘https://www.sentinelone.com/labs/operation-digital-eye-chinese-apt-compromises-critical-digital-infrastructure-via-visual-studio-code-tunnels/
Microsoft provides a signed tunnel to execute code.
https://medium.com/@truvis.thornton/visual-studio-code-embedded-reverse-shell-and-how-to-block-create-sentinel-detection-and-add-e864ebafaf6d
December 10, 2024 12:01 PM
Dave on Full-Face Masks to Frustrate Identification :
All the world’s a stage.
https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/56966/speech-all-the-worlds-a-stage
December 10, 2024 11:54 AM
Dave on Trust Issues in AI :
Thanks for Schneier on Security!
Comment: The Security issues for AI are going to be very interesting!
December 10, 2024 10:59 AM
Trevor on Full-Face Masks to Frustrate Identification :
They will also confound automated camera surveillance quite easily. I suspect it won’t be difficult to train a NN to recognize them as a mask but that won’t help identify the person.
December 10, 2024 10:40 AM
Mexaly on Full-Face Masks to Frustrate Identification :
We’ll figure out new handshakes.
What’s old is new again.
December 10, 2024 10:38 AM
DaveX on Full-Face Masks to Frustrate Identification :
In the sales lit, they also mention that they work like headbands or hats, so you could wear it bunched it up for immediate deployment or storage.
December 10, 2024 8:51 AM
wiredog on Full-Face Masks to Frustrate Identification :
Considering that the (alleged) ceo killer fooled all the face recognition both AI and human with a surgical mask, and only got ID’d because he took it off, once, in a taxi, it seems a surgical mask would be Good Enough.
Now if you could get custom face masks of this type you could arrange for someone else to get ID’d. Generate lots of false positives in the system.
December 10, 2024 7:20 AM
Matthias Urlichs on Full-Face Masks to Frustrate Identification :
They don’t survive in-person scrutinity, but video cameras? no contest. Maybe if you zoom directly to the face with HD video.
December 9, 2024 2:30 PM
Jonathan Wilson on Trust Issues in AI :
Anyone who won’t share every single byte of data that went into training their AI shouldn’t be claiming said AI is “open” IMO.
No-one is going to do that of course because it would expose all the copyright violations going on in the AI industry.
December 9, 2024 1:21 PM
mark on Trust Issues in AI :
Trust? I point you to https://slashdot.org/story/24/12/09/1548200/microsoft-ai-chief-says-conversational-ai-will-replace-web-browsers
where, if you read the implied text, he’s saying he wants to use AI to turn the Web into TV, where anybody with money can show, but you have no way to do so.
December 9, 2024 12:59 PM
Clive Robinson on Trust Issues in AI :
Hmm… The premise behind the title of,
“Trust Issues in AI”
Is incorrect and is one of those things that come about due to journalists writing but not listening or learning.
What it actually is is,
“Trust in People”
AI in the current form of ML and LLM are “deterministic systems” that people have famously called “stochastic parrots” are actually not even “just parrots”.
The “stochastic” or “random” comes from “user input” fairly much like it does in any other deterministic system or program...
December 9, 2024 8:02 AM
Michael Singer on Trust Issues in AI :
“This essay was written with Nathan E. Sanders. It originally appeared as a response in Boston Review‘s forum, ‘The AI We Deserve.’”
Editing comment: it would have been useful to put this statement at the beginning of the post, along with an indication that the post it is responding to was by Evgeny Morozov. Then, the references in the post to “Morozov” would be less confusing.
December 9, 2024 3:32 AM
ResearcherZero on Algorithms Are Coming for Democracy—but It’s Not All Bad :
@Bruce
Tools capable of more nuance, do require a deeper understanding of technique.
Such tools only have power over us when we do not see the strings being pulled.
Overcoming the fear of rejection and need to feel accepted can either lead us to look within ourselves and see what we can do to change ourselves, or it can instead lead us to blame others for the things we ourselves refuse to accept. There are many reasons we may be afraid to be rejected by others. It is often far easier to decide it is the other person who is at fault, rather than to reexamine our own preconceived ideas and interpretations of events. It is only by reevaluating our own past behaviour we can learn the truth of events...
December 9, 2024 1:04 AM
ResearcherZero on Algorithms Are Coming for Democracy—but It’s Not All Bad :
@Clive Robinson
There are some techniques that can be more widely applied by social and traditional media.
Reducing animosity between groups:
“the political incentives to inflame and weaponize affective polarization for political gain must be reduced or eliminated”
‘https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/23794607241238037
Improving intergroup dialogue…
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10464964241302071...
December 9, 2024 12:27 AM
ResearcherZero on AI and the 2024 Elections :
@Clive Robinson
These mechanisms are so deeply hardwired we will often overlook truth and facts.
‘https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2024/10/new-study-shows-that-partisanship-trumps-truth
December 8, 2024 1:51 PM
Clive Robinson on AI and the 2024 Elections :
@ Winter, ResearcherZero, and others that would like honest political processes.
With regards,
“It pays to have laws actually regulating campaign financing and to not legalize corruption.”
Oh and firstly,
1, A legislature that will make solid laws.
And then,
2, Investigators who work without “fear or favour”.
3, Courts that likewise work without “fear or favour”.
4, No “get out of jail free” style Presidential and Gubernatorial “Pardons”...
December 7, 2024 12:59 PM
Winter on Detecting Pegasus Infections :
@Clive
Yup read that twice the FBI presumably under influence of others now says E2EE is good…
As the TLAs cannot protect Americans that count™ against foreign interference anymore, they have to tell these Important Americans to protect themselves.
I think we should not assume this advice extends to other Americans.
December 7, 2024 12:54 PM
Clive Robinson on Detecting Pegasus Infections :
@ ResearcherZero,
With regards FSB it looks like we have the same security item but from different reports.
As far as I can tell, the FSB are still acting “More boots than brains” and it’s why we got to hear about just a little more that is going on toward the East of Europe.
From the news it would appear things are going on in the MidEast and the kinetic support “The English Dentist” was getting has like morning mist either evaporated or gone to ground...
December 7, 2024 9:23 AM
Winter on AI and the 2024 Elections :
@ResearcherZero
Run for election with zero funds apart from a little outside assistance.
Rumania is not going to take this lying down. They have nullified the first round on grounds of illegal campaign financing and foreign meddling. The police are raiding offices:
‘https://apnews.com/article/romania-raids-election-georgescu-1095e5a6420af8c25208971a8855d664
It pays to have laws actually regulating campaign financing and to ...
December 7, 2024 4:57 AM
ResearcherZero on Detecting Pegasus Infections :
@paymetofixaproblem
Re: why arent these features built into operating systems
The developers use machine learning to analyze the kernel for signs of spyware.
–
FSB spyware disguised as an app.
‘https://citizenlab.ca/2024/12/device-confiscated-by-russian-authorities-returned-with-monokle-type-spyware-installed/
December 7, 2024 4:52 AM
ResearcherZero on AI and the 2024 Elections :
Run for election with zero funds apart from a little outside assistance.
66,000 fake accounts with 10 Million fake followers were deployed to influence a Romania election. 25,000 accounts became active two weeks before the election. Around 800 accounts were created as early as 2016 and showed no activity until November 11 2024.
‘https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/romania-tiktok-propaganda-campaign/...
December 6, 2024 4:52 PM
Clive Robinson on Detecting Pegasus Infections :
@ ALL
A couple of related notes.
Firstly it’s not just NSO et al doing this spying on your Mobiles and Smart devices. This story from a couple of days back is about the Russian FSB and their toys from a different box,
https://www.theregister.com/2024/12/06/badass_russian_techie_outsmarts_fsb/
Secondly, on a preventative measure, who remembers certain people going on about the evils of “End 2 End Encryption”(E2EE) and how LEO’s had to have ways to stop it?...
December 6, 2024 12:16 PM
paymetofixaproblem on Detecting Pegasus Infections :
why arent these features built into operating systems
December 6, 2024 8:28 AM
chris on Detecting Pegasus Infections :
pls check the facts before advertise this kind of s/ware
eg : https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/remove-iverify-basic/20133
December 6, 2024 3:35 AM
lurker on AI and the 2024 Elections :
@Bob
“Authoritarianism”? Would that have anything to do with “moral engineering”? Some folks think that’s a way to fix problems of trust.
‘https://doi.org/10.1080/21620555.2024.2430265
December 5, 2024 3:16 PM
Bob on AI and the 2024 Elections :
Cynicism amongst the populations, and people not knowing what to believe. Polarization. All perfect conditions for authoritarianism to rise.
December 5, 2024 3:47 AM
Clive Robinson on Algorithms Are Coming for Democracy—but It’s Not All Bad :
Why AI legislation will not work.
A right to reply objective view based on events in the past week alone.
There has recently been a lot of talk about “guide rails” for AI. Both the addition of software to encapsulate LLM ML systems, and that which could be made and enforced by legislation and regulation.
As we know current “guide rails” of the programmed variety are failing to work or worse creating vulnerabilities that can be exploited by the fact they effect the processing flow...
December 4, 2024 9:10 PM
Deja Vu Again? on Details about the iOS Inactivity Reboot Feature :
December 4, 2024 8:57 AM
pattimichelle on AI and the 2024 Elections :
I’m curious how smartphones are playing out in all of this. Android is mostly hacked (via apps/DLLs) so does any “bad” concentrate there vis a vis elections? How about in general? Since virtually all PII has been exposed by leaks (and apps) from virtually every megadata aggregator, does anyone “care” anymore about cell phone security?
December 4, 2024 5:10 AM
John White on Details about the iOS Inactivity Reboot Feature :
@anon: The issue is that if there’s a way to extend the time the phone stays in a post-boot unlock state, that extends the time there is to exploit the phone with an exploit that wouldn’t work if it had restarted.
@ResearcherZero:
The countdown timer is likely started each time the device is locked.
Probably, but I haven’t seen that confirmed experimentally.
Not all use cases need perfect security. For example, in the past year, a number of journalists reporting on Palestine have been stopped by UK police or border security and ordered to hand over electronic devices so their contacts in Gaza can be targeted. If those devices can be immediately exploited, then the journalists in Gaza that they’re in contact with may be targeted for murder in the next couple of weeks. If a post-boot unlock-> pre-boot unlock reboot can secure a device against exploitation until a exploit is developed that works pre-boot unlock, and that lasts until the current attack on the people of Palestine is reduced in volume somewhat, those people may survive...
December 4, 2024 4:02 AM
Clive Robinson on Details about the iOS Inactivity Reboot Feature :
@ ResearcherZero, ALL,
With regards your comment,
“Keep in mind your family, friends and colleagues likely will not practice good OPSEC.”
In my experience in life a couple of aspects to this occur,
1, Even when a persons very life depends on OpSec / Situational Awareness, they stop doing it effectively or at all very quickly.
2, No matter how you try to make others aware of the importance of OpSec / Situational Awareness, they will discount you, tell you you are paranoid, and tell others you are weird / mad...
December 4, 2024 3:08 AM
ResearcherZero on Algorithms Are Coming for Democracy—but It’s Not All Bad :
You have been neglected by the government. I can better represent you and speak for you.
Shadow Representation
‘https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00344893.2024.2386987#d1e155
December 4, 2024 2:24 AM
ResearcherZero on Algorithms Are Coming for Democracy—but It’s Not All Bad :
Seeing is Believing: The uncontrolled dissemination of decontextualized visual disinformation.
‘https://academic.oup.com/joc/advance-article/doi/10.1093/joc/jqae045/7908277
Information Warfare has evolved into an element of everyday life.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexvakulov/2024/11/19/information-warfare-spreading-chaos-a-guide-to-outsmarting-fake-news/
The fabricated quality of certainty...
December 4, 2024 12:49 AM
ResearcherZero on Details about the iOS Inactivity Reboot Feature :
@anon
The way countdown timers are generally implemented ensures that simply pressing keys or touching the screen will cause no effect to the countdown once the device is locked. If anyone attempts to interfere with the countdown timer through an exploit, that should cause kernel panic which will then cause the phone to reboot, hopefully neutering the attack.
‘https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Init...
December 3, 2024 7:48 PM
David Leppik on Algorithms Are Coming for Democracy—but It’s Not All Bad :
This fails to mention the biggest threat from AI: propaganda. Just about every psychological trick in the book works even if you know it’s being used against you. Even if you know you are seeing an implausible AI deepfake, it still influences your opinion. Seeing a scandalous video or hearing a politician spout shocking opinions will make you question them, even if you know it’s a fake. You can’t unsee it. Similarly seeing enough heroic or patriotic images of a selfish, corrupt politician will make you more trusting, even if you know they are fake...
December 3, 2024 6:00 PM
anon on Details about the iOS Inactivity Reboot Feature :
re: JW
Wouldn’t that simply increase the delay before the phone could be unlocked? Even if you pressed ‘1’ ‘backspace’ repeatedly?
December 3, 2024 3:19 PM
MDK on Algorithms Are Coming for Democracy—but It’s Not All Bad :
@All
If you haven’t heard about hxxps://www.sanctuary.ai/ work they have been doing some interesting and difficult work. The current CEO is the former CEO of DWAVE.
MDK
December 3, 2024 3:15 PM
MDK on Details about the iOS Inactivity Reboot Feature :
@All
Feature should have been implemented a long time ago.
@Bruce
I’m sure you are aware but a confirmed nation state cyber campaign running against US Telco etc. It’s not good from the sounds of it. Dangerous times indeed.
MDK
December 3, 2024 1:46 PM
vaadu on Algorithms Are Coming for Democracy—but It’s Not All Bad :
Elon Musk says Grok will be soon capable of summarizing large bills passed by Congress for citizens to better understand.
AI will be able to answer questions like who benefits from this bill or how can the bill be tightened up so it can’t be gamed or how can this bill’s goals be accomplished and be more budget neutral.
December 3, 2024 10:42 AM
Martin Stuart Sorrell on Algorithms Are Coming for Democracy—but It’s Not All Bad :
It’s not all Bad… it’s just mostly Bad.
An odd attempt by a high-profile luminary to superimpose a giant smiley face on our rather bleak future. For some reason the professional researchers who invented this technology (e.g. Geoffrey Hinton) and understand the implications through first-hand experience do not share Schneier’s glass-half-full optimism.
And this raises unsettling questions.
...December 3, 2024 10:32 AM
Clive Robinson on Algorithms Are Coming for Democracy—but It’s Not All Bad :
It’s important to remember two things about this type of use of current AI based on LLM and ML systems,
1, The avatars/agents are not real or recordings of what was once real (they are “dishonest”).
2, Their use is in fact to make gain at others loss or expense (illicit “advantage”).
That is, as “an enterprise” it is gaining a,
“Dishonest Advantage”
Which is the basic definition of the crime of “Fraud”[1] in the UK and many other places...
December 3, 2024 9:04 AM
Fábio Emilio Costa on Algorithms Are Coming for Democracy—but It’s Not All Bad :
This is just the beginning of a trend that will spread through democracies around the world, and probably accelerate, for years to come. Everyone, especially AI skeptics and those concerned about its potential to exacerbate bias and discrimination, should recognize that AI is coming for every aspect of democracy. The transformations won’t come from the top down; they will come from the bottom up. Politicians and campaigns will start using AI tools when they are useful. So will lawyers, and political advocacy groups. Judges will use AI to help draft their decisions because it will save time. News organizations will use AI because it will justify budget cuts. Bureaucracies and regulators will add AI to their already algorithmic systems for determining all sorts of benefits and penalties. ...
December 3, 2024 6:23 AM
ResearcherZero on Details about the iOS Inactivity Reboot Feature :
One should also assume those administering the law understand little about IT.
‘https://www.postofficescandal.uk/post/proposed-amendment-to-legal-assumption-about-the-reliability-of-computers/
December 3, 2024 12:53 AM
ResearcherZero on Details about the iOS Inactivity Reboot Feature :
Keep in mind your family, friends and colleagues likely will not practice good OPSEC.
December 3, 2024 12:39 AM
ResearcherZero on Details about the iOS Inactivity Reboot Feature :
Not that it is guaranteed to keep attackers from targeting your phone with some kind of spyware, or discovering your authentication details via other surveillance methods.
If a device contains sensitive information then remotely wiping it as soon as possible may prevent data from being accessed, as long as the device has not been shielded/turned off.
There are alternative solutions with a 10 minute inactivity timer and a scrambled 128 character password, with charging only allowed from a locked state to reduce attacks. Yet all the same caveats apply with such secure mobile operating system implementations. If an attacker has physical access to a device, they can hold onto it until such time an exploit is released that the device has not yet been patched to the prevent that exploit method...
December 2, 2024 11:53 PM
ResearcherZero on Details about the iOS Inactivity Reboot Feature :
@John White
The countdown timer is likely started each time the device is locked. Therefore the device would have to be in an unlocked to state to stop the inactivity timer from counting down.
“The Secure Enclave Processor (SEP) keeps track on when your phone was last unlocked.”
‘https://naehrdine.blogspot.com/2024/11/reverse-engineering-ios-18-inactivity.html
December 2, 2024 8:06 PM
Dave on New iOS Security Feature Makes It Harder for Police to Unlock Seized Phones :
@Andrew: The scheduled-reboot thing has been part of (typically) cheap Internet-enabled devices pretty much forever, think routers, access points, etc, to deal with the fact that they often can’t run for any amount of time without running into problems. So a daily or weekly reboot resets them into a clear state which (hopefully) won’t get too messed up before the next reboot hits.
December 2, 2024 6:03 PM
John White on Details about the iOS Inactivity Reboot Feature :
I’m not convinced that this has been fully answered. It’s great that this feature exists, and it would be even better if Apple made it possible to adjust the time down so that it occurs more rapidly, but is it conclusively proven that button activity, interaction with the touch screen etc does not reset the timer as actually unlocking the phone would? Because the risk is that pigs and other bad actors could simply automate button clicks- or manually ‘touch’ all the phones- to extend the unlock time...
December 2, 2024 2:41 PM
Clive Robinson on Race Condition Attacks against LLMs :
People should study older engineering…
There is a reason that this sort of thing happens and it’s been known to both mechanical, electromechanical, electrical, and electronic engineers for oh getting on for a couple of centuries. Charles Babbage was certainly familiar with it in his various mechanical designs just one of which was his difference engine. Strowger in his designs for his “fickle womanless exchange” for phones likewise. Moving on Konrad Zuse in his Z electromechanical computer was aware of it in his designs especially the floating point of the Z3. The list is long so I could go on and on with just the mechanical and electromechanical alone. Oh and although never built as such even the Turing Engine was an Electromechanical State Machine with Tape Unit. You could with a “micro-cassette audio recorder” of the style designed for Dictation and Reed Tone switches and relays build an electromechanical Turing Engine. For “fun” back when a teenager I cobbled enough bits together to build not just a “Turing Tape Unit” that way, along with an electro mechanical Dialer from a rotary phone to act as an input device (I did not build a state engine with relays I could not afford the number required or build a power supply to drive them)...
December 2, 2024 8:21 AM
Paul Sagi on Details about the iOS Inactivity Reboot Feature :
Interesting that the Apple code is so transparent that it’s easy to reverse engineer.
I found that the Windows code to trigger automatic updates was similarly transparent. I found a few lines of XML code that server as a timer to trigger updating. Microsoft has been known to use multiple means for updates, so the above might not be the last word. What people hate about Windows updates is they can arrive at the most inconvenient time and cause business disruption. Some people use Sordum’s Windows Update Blocker (WUB) to combat multiple update triggers...
December 2, 2024 3:57 AM
PaulSagi on Race Condition Attacks against LLMs :
OMG! EXACTLY the experiment I had wondered about but was too busy and too lazy to try.
I had found that interruption of the flow of info on some sites breaks their paywall, so I suspected (and the above confirms) it’s a general phenomenon.
December 2, 2024 1:09 AM
Winter on Race Condition Attacks against LLMs :
@No Log
It’s almost unbelievable the amount of information [LLMs] can provide you given the right prompts and chaining, feeding your already-full consipracy-theorist mind.
But thanks to the firehose of falsehoods [1], you’ll never know what is true.
[1] ‘https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood
December 1, 2024 6:26 PM
No Log on Race Condition Attacks against LLMs :
With the scaling laws of these LLMs being data hungry, they have already been fed so much classified data. Easily accessible with such attacks and more. It’s almost unbelievable the amount of information they can provide you given the right prompts and chaining, feeding your already-full consipracy-theorist mind.
December 1, 2024 4:21 PM
Art Pollard on Security Analysis of the MERGE Voting Protocol :
We should make all ballots cast public information available for download. They shouldn’t have the persons name but all other data should be available in a blockchain like format. For example, for voter machines, it would have:
1) Date
2) Time (expressed in 10 or 15 minute blocks)
3) Precinct
4) Voter machine ID
5) Who was on duty as a poll watcher
6) Whether an ID was checked
7) Who was on duty to check people in...
December 1, 2024 1:56 PM
GregW on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
So national governments are willing to leak their “selector” metadata to outside entities?! Crazy!
Although I guess I do it with “Google” all the time…
November 30, 2024 2:54 PM
Rontea on Walls Around Nations :
The meaning of walls can be multifaceted. On one hand, walls can symbolize strength, security, and stability, meant to protect what is within from external threats. On the other hand, walls also represent division and isolation, a barrier that separates and oftentimes alienates the entities on either side. As the original text suggests, walls might actually solve the wrong problem by focusing on separation rather than unity. Instead of fostering protection, they can interrupt communication and understanding, creating a false sense of security while hindering growth and empathy. In essence, while they offer an immediate solution to perceived threats, they can also prevent the harmonious convergence of ideas and communities...
November 30, 2024 2:34 PM
Rontea on Helen Nissenbaum on Data Privacy and Consent :
I completely agree that we need to shift our focus towards outlining appropriate constraints on data flow that equitably distribute costs and benefits. By concentrating on the purposes and values of crucial social domains such as health, democracy, education, commerce, and personal relationships, we can ensure that our technological and policy advancements truly serve and enhance these areas. This approach seems far more productive than constantly trying to perfect consent mechanisms. Balancing these domains with fair data flow practices is crucial to both protect individuals and promote societal progress...
November 30, 2024 8:06 AM
ResearcherZero on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
@Clive Robinson
Roll a dice in the Australian courts. Little oversight of the courts here, dependent on if it is an open hearing, and does not require suppression from government or may tickle the media’s fancy. If the matter is not too scandalous, and the litigant ugly enough, perhaps.
The main obstacle is the demeanour of the Officers of the Court and location. Plus a 50% chance of enough rogues with little concern for their duty to honestly uphold the law...
November 30, 2024 7:29 AM
ResearcherZero on The Scale of Geoblocking by Nation :
Pakistan’s new national internet “firewall”
‘https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/26/pakistan-tests-china-like-digital-firewall-to-tighten-online-surveillance
Technical censorship used to suppress access to online content and independent reporting.
https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-net/2024/struggle-trust-online
How does a national firewall work?
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2024/11/how-do-authorities-use-firewalls-and-other-tools-of-internet-control/...
November 30, 2024 2:19 AM
T.J. Williams on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
Does anyone know if there is a repository where NSO files seized/collected by the court(s) can be downloaded? Something like the ‘Pandora Papers’ for NSO?
November 29, 2024 8:50 PM
Dan M on Secret Service Tracking People’s Locations without Warrant :
This is why I recently bought a new Google pixel 8 and then flashed GrapheneOS onto it. Yes, this means that I have to trust the developers for GrapheneOS, but you’ve gotta trust someone.
Graphene disables access to ALL of the sensors on your phone, like GPS, bluetooth, accelerometer, thermometer, whatever, as well as location, contacts and all the usual app permissions. You can choose to only allow those that you want per app. It doesn’t have the Google infrastructure on it. If you want that, you can install it, but it runs in a sandbox...
November 29, 2024 8:17 PM
Wannabe Techguy on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
@ Rontea
I agree, but governments are already doing all that. I don’t see how a private company is any worse.
November 29, 2024 6:44 PM
Clive Robinson on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
@ ResearcherZero,
With regards,
“NSO Group unlikely to be protected by sovereign immunity.”
Because they are technically a “commercial company” with “share holders” not a “direct government agency”.
There are advantages and disadvantages of “arms length” organisations.
Whilst they might give protection against “Freedom of Information”(FoI) Requests and give Government ministers and those beneath them in effect “deniability” or “commercial confidentiality...
November 29, 2024 4:43 PM
Rontea on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
@peter galbavy
Surveillance as a Service could be problematic for several reasons. First, it raises significant privacy concerns; constant monitoring can infringe on individual freedoms and civil liberties. Allowing private companies to control surveillance could lead to misuse of data, breaches of confidentiality, and lack of accountability. Furthermore, the commodification of surveillance services might prioritize profit over ethical considerations, undermining democratic principles. Additionally, there’s the potential for bias and discrimination if the surveillance systems are not managed with transparency and fairness. Overall, Surveillance as a Service demands a serious reevaluation with respect to ethical, legal, and societal implications...
November 29, 2024 10:17 AM
Peter Galbavy on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
SaaS has a new meaning. Surveillance as a Service.
November 28, 2024 11:59 PM
ResearcherZero on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
@Clive Robinson
While NSO has claimed legal privilege to refuse handing over evidence, it has hacked the legal teams of targets, a breach of lawyer-client confidentiality, and has been called out by the UK court for “serial breaches of domestic criminal law”.
NSO Group’ has not denied in court that it reverse engineers other companies products, develops the exploits used to hack targets, and handles exploitation itself...
November 28, 2024 4:18 PM
Jelo 117 on The Scale of Geoblocking by Nation :
Geoblocking sometimes is appropriate in defense but organizations defend their networks by allowing connections only from pre-registered/vetted devices, regardless of location (nearest neighbor or not), user credentials, etc.
November 28, 2024 3:58 PM
Cybershow on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
Having slopbots run amok in the comments is even more dispiriting than
human hate or unhinged manic diatribes. The blandness is
soul-sucking. Propagandists can deploy slop to simply wear down
intelligent debate. It’s just a different flavour of vandalism
designed to curtail discussion.
I wrote here about people intent on using technology to spread misery
and violence beginning to combine offensive tools:...
November 28, 2024 1:06 PM
Clive Robinson on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
@ Bruce, ALL,
With regards,
“We assumed that those countries use the spyware themselves.”
I thought you were aware that NSO and several others run “A full Service Package” to customers. If for no other reasons than to stop the customer using the software against,
1, The licence fees requirements.
2, Various nations personnel.
The official excuse to customers was “the speed of change” that is the customer was “renting access to target” not “buying very quickly outdated access methods”...
November 28, 2024 6:46 AM
ResearcherZero on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
NSO again refuses to hand over evidence claiming it doesn’t spy on activists.
‘https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/11/thailand-courts-dismissal-of-spyware-misuse-lawsuit-spurs-international-concern/
November 28, 2024 6:18 AM
ResearcherZero on The Scale of Geoblocking by Nation :
Russian plans to disconnect RuNet from international internet.
‘https://jamestown.org/program/russia-ramps-up-internet-censorship/
Lost visibility in the Russian IP space.
https://isc.sans.edu/diary/31476
Leaked files show how China and Russia cooperate to block their citizens.
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-china-internet-censorship-collaboration/32350263.html
November 28, 2024 5:29 AM
ResearcherZero on The Scale of Geoblocking by Nation :
Without accurate data you cannot define the problem and implement a solution. Half the population does not vote, or stand up for it’s rights. If you do not understand the issues, there is little chance that anything will change. No one is going to change things for you.
There is no savior. There is only yourselves. You must make the changes for yourselves.
Half of Americans don’t vote…
‘https://apnews.com/projects/election-2024-our-very-complicated-democracy/election-2024-why-americans-dont-vote-episode-6.html...
November 28, 2024 3:49 AM
ResearcherZero on The Scale of Geoblocking by Nation :
@Jesse Thompson
“88% of geoblocked domains do not serve informative notice of why they are blocked.”
Then the paper makes recommendations about how the situation can be improved.
November 28, 2024 2:27 AM
ResearcherZero on The Scale of Geoblocking by Nation :
@Jesse Thompson
Re:Hundreds of thousands of US citizens live abroad. Thousands more need to access these services while on vacation.
The Geoblocking only blocks users on Tor. It does not block users using a regular browser to file their tax returns. Anyone overseas can still access the the IRS website.
If conflating whistleblowers, politicians, and policy with tax returns. Read this:
‘https://www.biometricupdate.com/202411/australias-debate-on-age-verification-for-social-media-reaches-parliament...
November 28, 2024 12:52 AM
ResearcherZero on What Graykey Can and Can’t Unlock :
The future can be predicted, but you may not be able to change the course of events.
Therefore the threat model should always assume the worst, without action to prevent it.
We know that without adequate privacy law we will have no privacy.
–
You are what you are assumed to be.
‘https://privacyinternational.org/long-read/5472/chatbots-adbots-sharing-your-thoughts-advertisers
Identity is a process of becoming rather than being...
November 28, 2024 12:38 AM
ResearcherZero on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
@ALL
In many areas Privacy law does not cover emerging technologies that intrude into public, personal and intimate spaces. Privacy legislation was originally designed only for data, not to protect privacy and so does not cover collection, just the storage of that data.
Newer technologies since the conception of the Privacy Act are not mentioned by the legislation, yet it is the only legal guidance that is used to regulate invasive tech...
November 28, 2024 12:05 AM
ResearcherZero on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
@Rontea
Lack of qualified staff to regulate rights frameworks and a “hodge-podge approach to the governance of data and technology.”
Additional government-wide law or guidance required:
“To assist federal agencies with consistently implementing civil rights and civil liberties protections when collecting, sharing, and using data, we suggest that Congress direct an appropriate federal entity to issue government-wide guidance or regulations addressing this matter. In its direction, Congress should consider delegating to such entity the explicit authority to make needed technical and policy choices or explicitly stating Congress’s own choices.”...
November 27, 2024 5:16 PM
Morley on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
It’s dangerous and illegal, but we’re comfortable.
November 27, 2024 4:38 PM
Fake Spy on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
Yup,basically as with everything else – outsourcing. Plus here, the benefit is even bigger, instead of sloppy, incompetent government wannabe “spies” – you get R E A L Professionals. SaaS has a new meaning and it’s not wotcha think or are used to know, it’s Spying as a Service or HaaS. Give a man a fish a day, no, teach a man…, NO. I will Ph(f)ish for you and I’ll feed it to ya too, all ya gotsta do is just say “yum – I lika taste o’ dat.”...
November 27, 2024 3:11 PM
One Random Geek on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
This method gives governments plausible deniability, and they can honestly say that they are not involved in bugging opponent’s (or dissident’s) phones.
November 27, 2024 1:58 PM
It’s Me on NSO Group Spies on People on Behalf of Governments :
It sounds like the company was merely a front for the Mossad. If there was a little more distance between it and the Mossad, it also could have been considered a cut-out, knowing the source of information and the destination (Mossad)…and facilitating the transfer of information.
Whenever they get caught, which is always a risk, the company can fold and then perhaps resurrect under a different name and continue “business”. You can’t undo knowledge, especially if it is useful to you. Plus Mossad is not implicated...
November 27, 2024 11:46 AM
Eriadilos on What Graykey Can and Can’t Unlock :
@Mohammed Khan
This may or may not hold true, the thing is that the future can not be predicted.
This is why the threat model should always assume the worst in my opinion. As for your example, seeing the recent Israeli operations, assuming the absolute worst seems like a good bet.
@Clive
The kill switch seems like a nice idea in theory, but for consumer products it seems like too much of a hastle to be adopted. As always balance has to be found between security and usability has to be found, which as you described is not an easy thing...
November 27, 2024 7:19 AM
ATN on What Graykey Can and Can’t Unlock :
Daniel Popescu • November 26, 2024 4:10 PM
What happened in 1983 or what’s the context for that reference?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/ film “WarGames”.
Worm Computer: Strange games [both tic-toc and war games], only winning strategy is not to play; how about a nice game of chess?
November 27, 2024 4:20 AM
cls on What Graykey Can and Can’t Unlock :
What happened in 1983 or what’s the context for that reference?
American movie, War Games
teenager with an (already obsolete) IMSAI and a 300 baud modem dials up US national security computer, hijinks ensue.
November 27, 2024 4:01 AM
Jesse Thompson on The Scale of Geoblocking by Nation :
@ResearcherZero
However, if you are not a US citizen, then you do not need to use the service. Most users will be located within the US.
Hundreds of thousands of US citizens live abroad. Thousands more need to access these services while on vacation.
Geoblocking is a braindead solution to a non-existent problem, here. It just means that whoever wants to attack those sites have to do so from the portions of their botnets that are on US soil, which is still going to represent a pretty large portion of their botnet...
November 27, 2024 1:00 AM
ResearcherZero on The Scale of Geoblocking by Nation :
The public was given one day to comment.
‘https://www.crikey.com.au/2024/11/25/teen-social-media-ban-inquiry-submissions/
Digital ID cards for proof of age verification.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/digital-world-real-world/202411/will-banning-social-media-make-youngsters-safe-and-healthy
November 26, 2024 10:38 PM
Mohammed Khan on What Graykey Can and Can’t Unlock :
@Eriadilos: It is not always neccessary to have perfect forward security. You can look, for example, at what the UK regime has been doing, detaining if not arresting any journalist in communication with sources in Palestine when they cross the border. Under ‘Operation Incessantness’, information about those sources- often local journalists- is then passed onto the Israelis so they can target them for murder...
November 26, 2024 10:32 PM
ResearcherZero on Why Italy Sells So Much Spyware :
A proposed bill would have given consumers the right to take legal action.
‘https://apnews.com/article/privacy-cantwell-consumer-ftc-social-media-algorithm-2f8a8d15a4e20ea11696c213ed57c5bc
But corporate lobbyists gutted it…
https://www.wired.com/story/apra-privacy-bill-doomed/
November 26, 2024 10:30 PM
ResearcherZero on Secret Service Tracking People’s Locations without Warrant :
@Clive Robinson
Consumers want the ability to enforce their right to privacy.
‘https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics/privacy/americans-want-much-more-online-privacy-protection-a9058928306/
November 26, 2024 10:24 PM
ResearcherZero on What Graykey Can and Can’t Unlock :
Concepts of Privacy: Why do we need it?
‘https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-031-51063-2_2
The plurality of identification.
https://knightcolumbia.org/content/anonymity-identity-and-lies
“privacy is valuable not because it empowers us to exercise control over our information, but because it protects against the creation of such information in the first place.”
November 26, 2024 10:21 PM
ResearcherZero on What Graykey Can and Can’t Unlock :
Set your phone to at least reboot every twelve hours. Wipe it remotely if stolen/seized.
Alternatively, have a trusted party who can wipe it for you if you yourself are indisposed.
November 26, 2024 8:50 PM
Clive Robinson on What Graykey Can and Can’t Unlock :
@ Daniel Popescu, and others too young.
1983 was a year when fairly good security advice came from being entertained…
An AI had to learn almost the hard way what MAD really ment and thus passed an opinion,
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NHWjlCaIrQo
I don’t know how many millions of people have seen it but strangely we humans do not appear to have learnt from it 🙁
November 26, 2024 8:50 PM
Anonymous on What Graykey Can and Can’t Unlock :
@Daniel Popescu
It’s a quote from the 1983 movie “WarGames”.
November 26, 2024 8:31 PM
Clive Robinson on What Graykey Can and Can’t Unlock :
@ TimH, ALL,
With regards,
“A quick-off hotkey would be good.”
From whose perspective?
As an experiment back at the turn of the century when mobile phones were much simpler, I developed a “Molly Button” / “quick kill” for a device I mainly used as a “Personal Organiser”.
Data at rest was always encrypted, and data that was in certain applications like editors was also encrypted even when in use...
November 26, 2024 6:35 PM
Right Here on Security Analysis of the MERGE Voting Protocol :
Could have easily been an interpretation of some things here
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2024/07/upcoming-book-on-ai-and-democracy.html
November 26, 2024 5:28 PM
mr. Foss on AI Industry is Trying to Subvert the Definition of “Open Source AI” :
Because we want Open Source AI to exist also in fields where data cannot be legally shared
That’s like defining Good People as saviors, altruists and, heck, pirates, because we want Good People to exist also in lawless places. Such tactical naming isn’t going to bring about any good will to said lawless places.
But a definition is just a jargon element, so it can’t be bad, right? Wrong. As to why we do ...
Sidebar photo of Bruce Schneier by Joe MacInnis.
Autocomplete lacks “real understanding of context or consequences”; shock.