THANKS FOR JOINING US FOR ANOTHER EDITION OF DONNYBROOK.

IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT SHOW SO CANCEL ALL APPOINTMENTS.

>> LET'S MEET THE HOST FROM KTRS, WENDY WIESE AND COLUMNIST, BILL MCCLELLAN AND SARAH FENSY AND EDITOR AND COLUMNIST, ALLEN REED.

BILL, WE'LL START WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE COVERED POLICE AND PLACE MATTERS VERY WELL FOR THE PAST 40 OR SO YEARS OF YOUR TREMENDOUS YEARS.

>> 50 OR 60.

[LAUGHTER] >.. >> ALL PROPS TO YOU.

THIS TIME ANDY FRACELLA, THE FOUNDER OF SUPPLEMENT SUPER STORE AND AN ENTREPRENEUR WHO'S DONE REALLY WELL.

ONE WEEK AGO TODAY, HE HAD A PODCAST AND SAID HORRENDOUS THINGS ABOUT FEMALE COPS.

AND, OF COURSE, THAT DIDN'T GO OVER WELL WITH THE POLICE COMMUNITY AND BY SATURDAY, HE WAS ALREADY ISSUING AN APOLOGY ON A 12-MINUTE PODCAST THAT HE CREATED AND HE SAID, HEY, THAT WASN'T ME.

I WA..

APOLOGIZED TEN, 11 TIMES IN 12 MINUTES.

..

THE CHIEFS OF St.. AND St. LOUIS CITY ALONG WITH FOLKS FROM THE BACK-STOPPERS AND MUNICIPAL DEPARTMENTS ALL SAID, WE'RE DIVORCING OURSELVES FROM THIS GUY AND NOT TAKING HIS DONATIONS.

EVEN.. BEEN QUITE GENEROUS IN THE PAST WITH DONATIONS AND SIX FIGURES.

DO YOU THINK AT SOME POINT A GUY CAN REDEEM HIMSELF AND IN THIS DAY AND AGE AND ACTUALLY MAKE COMEBACK AND SHOULD HE BE FORGIVEN IF HE APOLOGIZES AS HE DID?

IT WAS SO VILE WHAT HE DID AND I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE TELL ME THIS IS A PODCAST WHERE GUYS CAN BE OBSCENE AND CURSE AND MISOGYNY ALL OF THE TIME.

BUT WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT WOMEN, PLEASE, HOW BAD THEY ARE AND THEY'RE EMOTIONALLY UNSTABLE AND THAT IT'S WORSE BECAUSE FOR HIM DEALING WITH THEM BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT HE COULD JUST PUNCH THEIR FING FACES IN AND WOW!

I IMAGINE THEY'RE YOUNG, TESTOSTERONE FUELED GUYS.

I THOUGHT, BOY, WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING OUT THOSE MESSAGES, NOT ADVOCATES VIOLENCE, YOU DIDN'T DO THAT, BUT TALKING ABOUT HURTING POLICE OFFICERS, I THOUGHT IT, WOW, I W.. ALL SURPRISE.

THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT THIS IS A LINE TOO FAR.

AND CAN SOMEBODY BE FORGIVEN?

SURE, EVERYBODY CAN BE FORGIVEN FOR EVERYTHING.

BUT I THOUGHT HIS APOLOGIES WERE, YOU KNOW, NOT GOOD.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WROTE A COLUMN ABOUT HOW YOU APOLOGIZE.

AND I THOUGHT THAT WHAT HE SAID WAS JUST AWFUL STUFF.

>> I WOULD SAY THIS, THESE TYPES OF PODCASTS LANGUAGE AND THIS THREATENING ATMOSPHERE, THAT SHOULD GET PEOPLE CANCELED JUST AS FAST, BUT HE DARED MENTION A POLICE OFFICER.

I THINK .. JUST AS DANGEROUS IF THEY DON'T MENTION A POLICE OFFICER.

AND TO ME, THAT'S WH..

STAND WITH THE POLICE.

NOT EVEN ACCEPTING HIS MONEY OR ANYTHING ESPECIALLY.

I THINK, MAN, YOU'RE JUST HAZARDOUS TO PEOPLE's HELP LET ALONE POLICE OFFICERS.

AND LIKE I SAID, SOCIETY IS JUST GETTING OUT OF CONTROL.

AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOUGH EXAMPLES, LIKE, WELL, THE REASON HE'S BEING CANCELED BECAUSE HE MENTIONED A POLICE OFFICER AND TALKING TRASH AND IT'S DANGEROUS TO PEOPLE.

>> AND THERE'S SENSE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, THIS SENSE OF INTIMACY WHEN THEY'RE TALKING AND THEY'RE GETTING RILED UP AND EVEN MORE RILED UP THAT THEY FORGET THAT THAT'S A LIVE MICROPHONE.

AND SUDDENLY, IT'S MASS MEDIA.

EVERYTHING TODAY THAT WE DO CAN AND OFTEN GOES VIRAL.

AND HIS MEA CULPA SEEMS TO BE TIDE TO A HOLY WOW!

WHAT HAPPENED?

MY COMPANY IS ON THE LINE.

OUR FUTURE IS ON THE LINE.

BUT I'M WITH BOTH OF YOU.

I THINK JUST THE TONE OF THE RHETORIC IS TERRIFYING ENOUGH.

>> THIS IDEA THAT YOU CAN TALK THAT WAY ABOUT VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN, IT'S SO SAD THAT THIS IS STILL GOING ON.

>> THIS WAS NATIONAL POLICEWOMAN's DAY.

THAT'S WHEN HE DID IT.

>> IT'S NOT LIKE HE WAS ACCIDENTALLY CAUGHT ON A MIC.

HE ACTIVELY SOUGHT OUT THIS, RECORDED IT, UPLOADED AND MAKES YOU WONDER WHAT HE'S SAYING WHEN HE'S NOT BEING RECORDED.

>> I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HAVEN'T WE ALL MADE MISTAKES AND SAID THINGS?

HA.. CARS INTO A BAR AND THEN THEY ARREST THE BAR OWNER OR SAY HATEFUL THINGS ON SOCIAL MEDIA?

OF ALL GROUPS, SHOULDN'T THE POLICE UNDERSTANDINGS THAT PEOPLE MESS UP BIG TIME?

>> WHEN A GUY SELLS SUPPLEMENTS, CHARLIE, WHEN HE LEAVES THE HOUSE, THERE'S NOT A CHANCE HE WILL GET SHOT IN THE LINE OF DUTY DURING THE DAY AND THERE IS THAT VERY POSSIBLE REALITY IN TERMS OF MAKING THAT DISTINCTION.

>> I WOULD SAY.. OFFICERS DON'T APOLOGIZE LIKE THIS GUY DID.

>> THE WHOLE ASPECT OF IT, BECAUSE, IN A WAY, POLICE, YOU KNOW, THAT St. LOUIS METROPOLITAN POLICE DEPARTMENT BLOG, MAN, THEY HAVE SOME .. ON THERE THAT'S JUST FLAT OUT RACIST.

>> I DON'T HEAR ANY APOLOGIES COMING OUT.

>> I AGREE IT IS POT CALLING KETTLE BLACK.

>> AREN'T WE LIVING IN A CANCELED CULTURE -- >> NO, NO,.. >> I THINK IT, BECAUSE WE SHOULD HAVE THE DONNYBROOK MODEL WHERE PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW SIT AT A TABLE AND WHAT THE CHIEFS OF POLICE SAID, YOU CAN COME TO OUR OFFICE AND SIT DOWN WITH SOME OF OUR FINEST FEMALE POLICE OFFICERS AND WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION.

WHO KNOWS WHAT?

MAYBE SOMETHING GOOD COMING OUT OF THAT IN A CIVIL SOCIETY.

>> TALKING ABOUT THE CANCELED CULTURE, WHEN ANHEUSER-BUSCH, THE BUD LIGHT PEOPLE SENT A CAN EVER BEER TO A TRANSGENDER INFLUENCER AND PEOPLE GOT ANGRY, THAT'S THEIR RIGHT.

OF COURSE, THE HARM .. PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR -- THE BOTTLERS AND FORKLIFT DRIVERS AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY THESE BOYCOTTS GO.

WHEN SOMEBODY HAS THAT ATTITUDE, OF COURSE, IT WON'T HURT HIM.

HE'S MADE, APPARENTLY, A TON OF MONEY.

BU.. WORK FOR HIM.

BUT SYSTEM -- >> EXACTLY.

>>.. >> NOT WITH THE PEOPLE BOYCOTTING.

>> IF HE WERE A BROADC.. ANY TV STATION, WOULD HE BE FIRED?

YES, HE WOULD.

>> DEPENDS ON HOW POPULAR HE IS.

>> PEOPLE HAVE SAID SOME CRAZY THINGS.

>> NOT WITH THAT.. WOMEN, POLICE.

>> FEMALE POLICE OFFICERS NOW HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION.

>> THEY DON'T HAVE T.. CIVIL SOCIETY, THAT SHOULD BE THE WAY THINGS WORK.

>> THERE'S THINGS THAT CROSS THE LINE AND WE FIX IT BY HAVING THEM GET TOGETHER AND SAY -- LIKE HIS APOLOGY.

IT'S NOT JUST WOMEN, BUT THERE'S MEN WHO SHOULDN'T BE POLICE OFFICERS.

THAT'S NOT AN APOL.. >> HE DOESN'T DESERVE THAT KIND OF PLATFORM.

I'M SORRY, HE DOESN'T.

I BELIEVE IN REDEMPTION.

>> BUT NOT FOR THIS GUY.

>> BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GIVING HIM A FORUM WITH THE AGREED PARTIES.

>> I'M NOT SURE IT SHOULD BE BROADCAST.

DON'T FORGET, THE GUY HAS BEEN A BIG SUPPORTER OF POLICE FOR YEARS WITH HIS WALLET.

>>> SARAH, WASN'T I WANT TO GO TO THE SECOND TOPIC WITH YOU.

>> CHARLIE, I DON'T BLAME YOU.

>> HALLOWEEN NIGHT IS WHEN THERE WILL BE A DEBATE IN MISSOURI AGAINST LUCAS KUNCE, THE DEMOCRAT AND JOSH HAWLEY.

ARE YOU GOING TO BE WATCHING IT LIVE?

>> I AM SO SAD THAT ..

WATCHING IT LIVE.

LIKE, WHY DID I HAVE CHILDREN?

[LAUGHTER] >.. NIGHT.

.. >> I'M KIDDING.

>> CATH HER.CANCEL..

THERE'S NO REDEMPTION.

[LAUGHTER] >.. YOU'RE TRYING TO GET VOTERS EDUCATED.

LET'S CHOOSE THE..

WHENEVER EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO HAS A LIFE, EVERYBODY HAS SOMETHING TO DO ON HALLOWEEN NIGHT AND SO THIS IS THE ONE NIGHT THAT JOSH HAWLEY WILL COME TO A DEBATE?

I'M ANGRY THIS IS THE SOLE NIGHT.

IT'S SOMETHING WHERE EARLY VOTING WOULD HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR THREE WEEKS AT THAT POINT.

IT'S ONE WEEK BEFORE THE ELECTION.

>> GOOD POINT.

>> HE'S TRYING T..

THEY CAN'T POSSIBLY CUT A COMMERCIAL OUT OF THIS TO WOUND HIM.

LIKE, WHAT'S HE AFRAID OF?

>> IT'S TOO LATE TO HARM ME, SO I'LL DO.

JOSH HAWLEY IS IN A DEBATE WHICH I'LL BE ON AND IF HE DOESN'T SHOW UP, THERE WILL BE A LECTOR ON THE STAGE WITH HIS NAME UP.

>> HE'S SAYING HE'S NOT COMING, RIGHT?

..

THERE.

I THINK THAT IT'S JUST -- IT'S INDICATIVE ANN SPACE WAGNER WON'T DEBATE HARTMAN AND CASE IN POINT, I THINK OUR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES DEBATED AND ONE DECIDED, I'M NOT DOING THAT AGAIN.

YOU KNOW..

IT DIDN'T TURN OUT ALL THAT WELL FOR HIM.

>> RIGHT.

>> SO I'M EXCUSING HIM.

IT'S JUST THAT YEAH, LET'S DO IT HALLOWEEN.

PL.. >> AND I HAVE A SMART TV THAT I DON'T KNOW -- I MEAN, I HAVE TO CALL MY HUSBAND INTO THE ROOM OR HOPEFULLY OUR ADULT CHILDREN MIGHT BE AT THE HOUSE WHEN WE HAVE TO DO THINGS WITH THE SMART TV.

BUT THEY HAVE -- PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WATCH THIS DEBATE, I THINK, WOMEN HAVE ACCESS AND WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IT, PLAY IT BACK.

>> YOU MEAN YOU CAN RECORD THESE SHOWS.

FROM SOUTH St.LOUIS, THEY DON'T HAVE DVR'S YET AND IT WILL BE ON iONLINE FOR AND A GET.

>> I LIKE THAT MOMENT WHEN KAMALA HARRIS AND DONALD TRUMP WERE DEBATING.

WE WERE ALL TALKING ABOUT IT.

THE NEXT DAY IT WAS THE BIG DISCUSSION.

THEE TAKEN THA..

US.

>> 60 MILLION PEOPLE IT.

IT'S A NATION OF 330.. NOT EVERYBODY WAS WATCHING IT, MAYBE LATER ONLINE.

>> 59,999,000 BECAUSE I DIDN'T WATCH IT.

IT WAS RECORDED.

>> EVEN I WATCHED IT.

WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU?

WHAT DID YOU HAVE TO DO?

>> I GUARANTEE YOU THERE WAS A FOOTBALL GAME OR BASEBALL GAME ON.

[LAUGHTER] >.. DOWN TO SPRINGFIELD.

>> SPEAKING OF ALVIN AND HIS FREE TIME, LET'S TALK ABOUT HEMP PRODUCTS.

[LAUGHTER] >>.. INFUSED WITH CANNABIS AND HEMP AND THEY ACTUALLY HAVE PSYCHOACTIVE INGREDIENTS IN THERE.

IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI THANKS TO LOOSELY WRITTEN LANGUAGE, IF NOT POORLY WRITTEN LANGUAGE IN THE FARM BILL THAT ALLOWED MARIJUANA TO BE SOLD IN THE STATE.

GOING AFTER IT AND HE DOESN'T WANT KIDS CONFUSING THESE PSYCHOACTIVE PRODUCTS TO BE CONFUSED WITH CANDY.

SO HE'S BEEN TRYING TO GET THEM OFF THE SHELF.

GOVERNOR MIKE PARSON REVERSED COURSE AND NOW THEY'RE BACK ON THE SHELF AND NOT THE DISPENSARIES PAYING THE HIGHER TAXES.

.. FOR YOUR DOG, TOO.

YOU CAN CBD OUT YOUR DOG IF HE'S A LITTLE RAMBUNCTIOUS.

>> IT'S LIKE A LOT OF THINGS WE DO HERE AND IN St. LOUIS COUNTY, WHERE WE JUST GO GREAT GUNS WITHOUT EVEN THINKING ABOUT, WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT?

HE DIDN'T KNOW AND DOUBLED DOWN AND THE PEOPLE WITH THE MONEY GOT ON HIS EAR AND SAID, LIKE, I DIDN'T GIVE YOU THE MONEY OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS FOR YOU TO PULL NONSENSE FOR LIKE ON THE WAY OUT THE DOOR.

SO HE HAD HIS COME-TO-JESUS MOMENT OR COME-TO-CORPORATE AMERICA MOMENT AND FOLDED.

>> IN FAIRNESS, THIS CANDY THAT LOOKED LIKE CANDY BUT HAD THESE HEMP COMPOUNDS IN IT, THEY ARE STILL GOING AFTER THAT.

THAT HAS NOT CHANGED.

BUT THEY'RE TO LONGER GOING AFTER THESE PRODUCTS THAT WAS SWEPT INTO THIS.

IT WAS DELTA 9 PRODUCTS.

HIS ORDER WENT WAY TOO FAR AND BASICALLY A GIFT TO THE DISPENSARY INDUSTRY.

HE HAD TO BACK..

THINK IT'S A GOOD THING.

>> IT'S STEVE TILLY.

THE REASON WE HAVE MEDICINAL MARIJUANA AND RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA IS THE GOVER..

IT OVER TO HIS GOOD FRIEND, THE UBER LOBBYIST, STEVE TILLY.

SO WHATEVER STEVE TILLY WANTS AS FAR AS THAT GOES, HE GETS.

>> MIGHT HE NOT BE RIGHT?

BECAUSE DON'T YOU WANT THE INDUSTRY TO BE REGULATED SO WE KNOW WHAT THE INGREDIENTS ARE AND PAYING HIGHER TAXS?

AND TILLY REPRESENTS THE DISPENSARIES.

>> THESE WERE HOME-GROWN THAT WERE SWEPT INTO THIS ORDER.

>> NOT TO BRING THE SUPPLEMENT STORE BACK IN THE NEWS, BUT THE CLAIMS ON THESE HERRAL SUPPLEMENTS AND WHATNOT HAVE NOT BEEN VERIFIED AT ALL.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF THESE, LIKE YOU SAY, HAVE CBD AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S NOT A REGULATED SCIENCE WHEN YOU GO INTO THESE PLACES AND BUY THINGS.

SO I THINK THE GOVERNO.. "MARIJUANA"?

>> UNFORTUNATELY, THERE HAVE BEEN QUITE A FEW STORI..

BOMB AND OTHER THREATS IN SCHOOLS IN MISSOURI AND AROUND THE COUNTRY.

I WOULDN'T MENTION THE SCHOOL's NAMES, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I WANT TO GIVE THE PEOPLE MAKING THE THREATS, WHAT I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AND TRYING TO GET THEIR JOLLIES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BY PHONES IN THESE THREATS.

I HAPPEN TO THINK THAT WE SHOULD GO BACK TO THE OLD MODEL WHERE WE DON'T REPORT THOSE THREATS, BOMB THREATS OR OTHERS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I THI.. THAT WE LIVE IN TODAY OF INSTANT COMMUNICATION AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THESE PARENTS HAVE ACCESS BY PHONE AND THAT KIND OF THING, BUT THAT DOESN'T TAKE IT FAR ENOUGH.

I THINK THIS..

I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT JOBS WE HAVE, IS TO INFORM THE PUBLIC.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

IT'S SOME KID IN A BASEMENT WITH ALUMINUM FOIL ON THE WINDOWS, DOESN'T WANT TO TAKE A TEST.

BUT IN THE CASE OF THE ST. ANN POLICE DEPARTMENT, I BELIEVE, IN TERMS OF DID THEY IDENTIFY OR THEY LOCATED THE RITENOUR IN 24 MINUTES?

.. JUST AS NEWS WORTHY WHEN THESE KIDS ARE PUNISHED AND MAKE SURE THE WORD GETS OUT THAT SCHOLARSHIPS REVOKED.

JUST ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO CONTINUE TO BRING THE NUMBERS IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.

>> I'M NOT A BIG SELF-CENSORSHIP PERSON, BUT IT'S THE SAME REASON WE DON'T REPORT SUICIDES VERY MUCH, UNLESS IT'S A PROMINENT PERSON.

WE DON'T..

KID WHO IS A LITTLE BIT SHAKY MENTALLY BY LETTING HIM SEE THE PAPER OR WATCH THE NEWS.

HERE IS TOMMY COMMITTED SUICIDE AND HE'S A STORY.

I WANT TO BE A HISTORY AND GET BACK AT THE GIRL WHO DOESN'T LOVE ME AND WHATEVER.

SO WE DON'T REPORT SUICIDES.

AND I KIND OF SEE CHARLIE's POINT, THAT WHEN YOU REPORT THESE BOMB THREATS, YOU'RE IN A SENSE ENCOURAGING THESE SHAKY KIDS TO GET ON THE PHONE AND MAYBE ONE THEMSELVES.

>> AND I AGR..

I WILL SAY THIS, THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE AT WAR WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS FOR REASONS THAT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ACTUAL EDUCATION.

AND IF SOMEBODY PHONED A BOMB THREAT INTO A SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL WENT THROUGH AND WENT THROUGH LOCKDOWN AND ALL CLEAR.

AND THE PARENTS WOULD KNOW BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN NOTIFIED BY THE KIDS.

BUT IT'S NOT L..

IT FROM US BECAUSE IT'S ON THE CHANNEL 5 HIGHS 5 NEWS.

WE HAVE TO PUT IT OUT THERE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO FACE THAT.

BUT I, TOO, WISH MOST OF THESE WOULD TO THE BE REPORTED.

>> ARE YOU SAYING AFTER THE FACT IN TERMS OF REPORTING ONCE THEY ALL CLEAR?

>> I MEAN, IS THERE A PATTERN OR BULLETIN ON A PHONE?

BUT I STILL THEY WE SHOULD ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION LIKE THE LADUE MAYOR SAID.

>> NOW THAT SHE'S CLOSED THE WORKHOUSE, SHE WOULD LIKE TO DEMOLISH IT AND IT WILL COST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

SHE WANTS TO ERECT A MARKER MEMORIALIZING THOSE HOUSED THERE?

&g.. AND THE GROUP, ARE THE ACTIVISTS WHO HELPED TO GET HER ELECTED.

THEY PUSHED HARD FOR THIS AND SHE CONVENED THIS ELECTION TO SAY, WHAT SHOULD WE DO?

I GUESS IT'S GOOD TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING THAT COMMISSION RECOMMENDED.

THERE'S NO POINT IN PUTTING TOGETHER THE COMMISSIONS WE LOVE TO PUT TOGETHER IN St. LOUIS IF YOU'LL THROW OUT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

THIS COMMISSION,..

UNMITIGATED WIN FOR HER.

SHE WOULD LIKE TO THEN PUT TINY HOMES ON THE SITE FOR UNHOUSED PEOPLE AND THEY'RE SAYING, DON'T YOU DARE DO THAT AND THAT WILL BE THE NEXT BIG FIGHT.

>> WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE NOW?

THOSE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE WORKHOUSE.

WHERE ARE THEY NOW, YOUR REPORTERS REPORTED, THE JUDGES HAD TO ORDER THE CITY JAIL TO PROVIDE MEDICINE OR WATER OR SHOWERS FOR THE INMATES.

>> I MEAN, THAT WAS HORRIFYING.

THE STORY THAT BROKE OVER AT "St. LOUIS MANAGE."

YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO GET A JUDGE INVOLVED TO GET WATER OR GET A SHOWER.

IT'S INTERESTING THAT THEY WEREN'T FOCUSED ON THE ISSUES AT THE CITY JUSTICE CENTER.

THERE HAVE BEEN SOME THAT ARE AND PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING WITH REPORTERS TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THE CONDITIONS THERE.

THEY'RE NOT THE GROUND SWELL WE OFF OVER THE ISSUES AT THE WORKHOUSE.

>> I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE A GROUND SWELL OF PEOPLE THAT WANT A MEMORIAL MARKER.

LISTEN, IT MAY HAVE BEEN A HORRIBLE PLACE, OK?

I'M NOT ATTESTING TO ANYBODY WHO WENT THROUGH A HOR HORRIBLE SITUATION IN THE WORKHOUSE.

YOU CAN TOUR ALCATRAZ BECAUSE AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S -- >> IT'S NOT MEMORIALIZED.

>> WELL, THE WORKHOUSE IS WHERE PEOPLE WERE HELD BEFORE THEY HAD A CHANCE TO GO TO TRIAL AND PROVE THEIR GUILT.

PEOPLE PASSED WITH SOME OF THE POLICING AND PROSECUTION IN THIS TOWN.

>> ARE WE GOIN..

IN DOWNTOWN St. LOUIS FOR THOSE WHO ARE AT THE CITY JAIL?

>> TEN YEARS FROM NOW, WE PROBABLY WILL.

>> AT LEAST AT THE .. CAN GET SUNSHINE WHICH YOU CAN NOT GET AT THE CITY JAIL.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE INMATES DIDN'T REVOLT AT THE WORKHOUSE, BUT THEY DID AT THE CITY JAIL BY HOLDING A GUARD HOSTAGE.

>> IT'S HALL ALL TERRIBLE.

BUT I THINK THERE'S A NEAR NARRATIVE THAT BLACK PEOPLE HAVE TO TAKE A DAY OUT TO PHONE ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN PRISON AND OUR LIVES ARE TIED UP IN PEOPLE IN JAIL AND PRISON.

AND IT JUST ISN'T SO.

WHEN YOU MAKE MEMORIAL MARKERS WHERE THE WORKHOUSE USED TO STAND, THE AVERAGE BLACK PERSON SAYS, WHY?

>> THE GOOD BOOK SAYS, WHEN I WAS IN PRISON, "YOU VISITED ME"?

>> THE GOOD BOOK SAYS THAT.

[LAUGHTER] >> THE OTHER..

TINY HOMES.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

>> HE, TOO.

>> ME, TOO.

>> WE NEED SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE HOMELESS PEOPLE, I'M SURE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS AND LIVING ON THE STREET WOULD REPORT HAVE A TINY HOUSE THERE THAN LIVING ON THE STREET.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE VACANT MILLENNIAL HOME IN DOWNTOWN St. LOUIS?

THE .. GATEWAY ARCH PARK FOUNDATION IS TAKING OVER.

THE FOUNDATION..

THE HOTEL.

THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN?

>> THUMBS UP.

I THINK THEY'LL BE PASS-THROUGHS, GET IT FOR A SONG AND SELL IT FOR HIGHER THAN A SONG, FOR A PRIVATE INTEREST GROUP.

OWNING THE MILLENNIUM HOTEL.

I THINK THEY DON'T WANT TO WALK IN THERE AND GO THROUGH THE WHOLE ASBESTOS MESS AND CLEAN IT OUT.

IT W.. SOMEBODY IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WOULD STEP INTO.

I THINK THESE ARE GOOD IDEAS.

THE WAYNE WRIGHT BUILDING AND OLYMPIANUM, AND MY MILLENNIUM.

>> THE DIFFERENT IS SETTLING, I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE THE WANT TO BROACH THE SUBJECT OF A HOMELESS HOTEL AT THE MILLENNIUM.

>> THE SEASON THE CARDINALS HAVE HAD, THEY'RE TIED WITH THE CUBS.

BOTH TEAMS ARE RIGHT THERE.

>> THE CUBS HOLD THE TIE-BREAKER TO NOTHING.

[LAUGHTER] >> MAY I POINT.. MADE THE PLAYOFFS.

>> THERE WE GO.

FOR EVERY CITY, CLEVELAND MAKES THE PLAYOFFS.

>> I GUESS SO.

>> LET'S GO TO THE MAILBAG AND SEE WHAT THE PEOPLE HAD TO SAY ABOUT LAST WEEK's PROGRAM.

DOES THE CITY HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN MANAGING THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY HAVE?

HOW ELSE WHERE WE EVER ADDRESS OUR MAJOR ISSUES AND GOALS?

THAT'S FROM BECKY ANDARD OF CHESTERFIELD.

MIKE WRO..

CORRECT WHEN SHE SAID THE FIRING OF MIKE SHILT IS A BIG REASON FOR POOR ATTENDANCE AT CARDINAL's GAMES.

THANKS, MIKE.

AND ERIC OF WILDWOOD SHARED THIS, I ENJOY HEARING THE OPINIONS OF THE REGULAR CAST.

PLUS JOE HOLLOMAN AND SARAH FENSKY.

THEY BOTH HAD TO THE DISCU.. EVERY TIME.

ADD .. AND WE HEARD FROM BOBBY D WHO WROTE, LOVE CHARLIE BRENNAN, HATE THE NEW LOOK.

SHAVE THE BEARD AND MUSTACHE.

WE HEARD FROM THE NINE LINE.

>> MY COMMENT IS ABOUT NEPOTISM.

THE THING THAT YOU DON'T REALIZE IS THAT NEPOTISM CAUSES LOW MORALE WHEREVER THAT INDIVIDUAL IS PLACED.

THEY GET LONGER BREAKS, LONGER LUNCHES AND THEY ARE REGARDED MORE HIGHLY IN ANY DISPUTE THAT OCCURS.

I'VE.. TIMES AND HAVE LEFT JOBS OVER IT.

>> FROM JOANNE, THANK YOU.

YOU CAN WRITE US.

DON'T FORGET THE EMAILS AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA, USE #DONNYBROOKSTL.

LISTEN TO US ON YOUR.. PODCAST LINE.

AND THERE WE HAVE IT.

LISTEN TO US WHEREVER WE ARE HEARD.

DO YOU THINK THAT BOBBY D. IS ROBERT DeNIRO?

>> COULD BE.

[LAUGHTER] >&g..

PROGRAM.

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