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>> CAN YOU BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY BEEN A WEEK?

WELCOME BACK T.. WOW, DO WE HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT THIS WEEK, BUT FIRST LET'S MEET THE PANELISTS STARTING WITH WENDY WIESE FROM THE BIG 550 KTRS.

BILL MCCLELLAN FROM YOUR ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH.

FROM THE ST. LOUIS MAGAZINE, SARAH FENSKE AND THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN ALVIN REID AND FROM A GREAT TALL H HE WANT ENTED ART GALLERY SOMEWHERE MAUREEN, BEHIND OUR SET HERE AT NINE PBS.

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BILL, WE ARE GOING TO START WITH YOU.

JONES STARTED WHAT'S CALLED A REPARATIONS COMMISSION.

THE IDEA WAS TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF COMPENSATION TO PEOPLE WHO WERE THE VICTIMS OF -- OR THE FAMILIES WERE THE VICTIMS OF SLAVERY, SEGREGATION OR RACE BASED HARM.

THE COMMISSION THIS WEEK CAME UP WITH AN IDEA THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF REPARATION GIVEN TO INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS WHO FALL IN THOSE CATEGORIES, BUT THEY DIDN'T SAY HOW MUCH OR WHEN THE CHECKS WILL BE WRITTEN OR FOR THAT MATTER WHERE THE MONEY SHOULD COME FROM.

WHEN DO YOU THINK THE CHECKS MIGHT BE WRITTEN?

CHARLIE, I CAN'T SEE THAT FAR INTO THE FUTURE.

I MEAN, IT'S A NICE IDEA, BUT IT'S RIDICULOUS.

IT HAS NO CHANCE OF HAPPENING.

IF MONEY WENT INTO SCHOOLS TO HELP POOR KIDS, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THING.

I THINK VOTING RIGHTS ARE GOOD, AFFIRMATIVE ACTION I'M FOR.

BUT THE IDEA THAT THE GOVERNMENT, THE CITY GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO ISSUE CHECKS TO PEOPLE FOR REPARATIONS FROM SLAVERY IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT MIGHT BE A NICE CAMPAIGN THING FOR MAYOR JONES TO TALK ABOUT, BUT WE WILL JUST HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER COMMISSION, AND THEY CAN HAVE A SUBSEQUENT COMMISSION.

IT'S UNREALISTIC TO THE MAX.

>> I QUALIFY.

IT'S K..

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF.

I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THIS IS JUST ME.

I THINK THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME, AND IT'S A WASTE OF ENERGY.

NOW, IF FOR SOME WAY THERE WAS A WAY OF TARGETING SOME MONEY NOT BASED UPON REPARATIONS WHATSOEVER WITHOUT THE USE OF THAT WORD, WITHOUT THE USE OF THAT THOUGHT, THEN I COULD GET WITH IT AND MAYBE JUST MAYBE IT COULD BECOME A REALITY.

I'M SORRY.

THIS IS JUST NOT A THING THAT IS NOT WORTH PUTTING THIS MUCH EFFORT INTO.

YOU SAID THEY HAVE BEEN MEETING FOR 18 MONTHS.

TO SAY WHAT?

PEOPLE ARE DESERVING OF MONEY.

I COULD HAVE DONE THAT IN 18 MINUTES.

YES, PEO..

SOME KIND OF PAYBACK WHAT WENT ON FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS IN THIS COUNTRY, WHICH WE NEVER GOT OUR 40 ACRES AND NEVER GOT OUR MULE.

YOU KNOW WHAT.

WE STILL GOT WHAT WE GOT.

TO FURTHER THAT, IT'S NOT THROUGH REPARATIONS.

>> I THINK IN THE DRAFT OF THIS PROPOSAL THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT THE COMMISSION ARE ASKING FOR THAT I THINK ARE ALREADY IN THE WORKS WITH THE ARPA FUNDS.

THERE'S IRONY THERE SAYING WE NEED TO DO THIS, THIS AND THIS.

AND I THINK ST. LOUIS AND MAYOR JONES ARE ALREADY WORKING ON THOSE THINGS.

CASH PAYMENTS ARE GOING TO END UP BEING A NONSTARTER IN PART BECAUSE THE UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME PILOT PROJECT THAT THE CITY TRIED TO DO IS AT THIS POINT ON HOLD AND DEAD IN THE WATER BECAUSE OF A LEGAL CHALLENGE.

YOU ..

USING THE EXACT SAME PART OF THE LAW.

OUT CASH TO INDIVIDUALS.

>> THAT'S WHY THE MAYOR HAS TARGETED 37 MILLION FEDERAL DOLLARS FOR NORTH ST. LOUIS.

IT'S KIND OF A WAY AROUND THAT.

BUT YOU COULDN'T HAVE A SYSTEM OR YOU COULDN'T GIVE GOVERNMENT MONEY BASED ON COLOR, ALTHOUGH JAPANESE AND ATTORNEYS AND THEIR FAMILIES GOT $20,000 IN THE 1980s.

>> BUT DARLENE GREEN I.. BACK ON MAYOR JONES.

I MEAN, SHE'S INSISTING THAT PROCESSES ARE FOLLOWED AND THAT THE PROCESSES ARE IN PLACE, SO THAT IN TERMS OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN THIS WEEK, I THINK THAT HAS A LONG WAY TO GO.

>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT WENT ON IN THE '40s.

THAT WAS FOR A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT FOR, LIKE I SAID LITERALLY JUST HELD CAPTIVE.

I GET THAT.

THAT WAS THEN.

THIS IS NOW.

THAT WAS JAPANESE AMERICANS, AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BLACK AMERICANS, AND LET'S BE STRAIGHT UP.

>>.. EVANSTON, ILLINOIS EXAMPLE AND IT WAS BASICALLY GIVING PEOPLE SOME PROPERTY ASSISTANCE.

FOLKS COULD MAYBE GET HELP WITH THEIR MORTGAGE, AND THEY ALSO WOULD BE ABLE TO GET SOME FUNDS TO FIX UP THEIR YARD, WHICH WOULD RAISE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY, MEANING THEY WOULD ACTUALLY PAY MORE TAXES WHICH WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE CITY.

I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE CITY WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF THE PROPERTIES WERE IN BETTER SHAPE, MAYBE NOT A CHECK BUT MAYBE SOME SORT OF ASSISTANCE.

>> THAT'S A FINE IDEA, BUT THAT'S A LONG WAY FROM REPARATIONS.

THE PEOP.. WANT A CHECK, CHARLIE.

THE IDEA THAT WELL, WE ARE GOING TO HELP HOMEOWNERS OR HELP PEOPLE GET HOMES, THAT'S ALL FINE.

.. >> MAYBE THEY ARE ASKING FOR A CHECK NOW AND IT'S THE INITIAL BARGAINING POSITION BUT THEY WILL SETTLE FOR MONEY THAT GOES TO FIXING UP THEIR PROPERTY.

>> THERE'S SOMETHING DISTASTEFUL OF THE NOTION OF REPARATIONS AND FORCING THEM TO BE PLACED IN A BARGAINING POSITION.

>> THEY ..

DISCUSSION IN CALIFORNIA EVEN AT THE STATE LEVEL.

YEAH, THEY HAD A COMMITTEE COME UP WITH THE SAME IDEA AND IT COST THE STATE $17 BILLION.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> EVEN THOUGH THE EVANSTON MODEL, WHEN YOU THINK OF MAKING A HOME MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT OR BRINGING UP THE VALUE WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, BUT IT ISN'T, THAT IS GONE.

>>..

THE CITY HAS BEEN TRYING TO DO WITH THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT DOLLARS IS THEY ARE TRYING TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO NORTH CITY AND PROGRAMS THAT ARE HELPING PEOPLE.

>> IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT DIFFICULT GIVEN THE STATE OF NORTH CITY, BUT THE CITY HAS BOTCHED IT UP.

>> THEY ARE TRYING.

>> THEY SAY THEY ARE TRYING..

THEY WON'T GIVE US THE INFORMATION TO PROVE IT.

IN OTHER WORDS, ALL THE GRANTS ARE PRIVATE, THE PEOPLE WHO INVESTIGATED THE GRANTS AREN'T TALKING.

>> THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THIS.

>> IT'S RELATED SOMEHOW.

>> LET'S MOVE ONTO THE ST. LOUIS PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WHICH IS ALSO NOT TALKING.

BERNARD OF THE POST DISPATCH FILED FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST 10 MONTHS AGO, STILL WAITING FOR THEM, AND MIGHT COME IN LATE NOVEMBER, ALVIN.

THE MOST RECENT STORY SHE'S REPORTED ON AND OTHERS HAVE TOO IS MILLICENT BORISHADE IS NOT CERTIFIED TO BE A SUPERINTENDENT IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI.

SHE HAD CERTIFICATION IN ILLINOIS AND IN WASHINGTON STATE, BUT BOTH OF THOSE CERTIFICATIONS EXPIRED.

NOW, LET ME ASK YOU THIS: IS IT REALLY THAT IMPORTANT TO HAVE CERTIFICATION?

WHAT IF BARAK OBAMA WANTED TO BE SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS.

WOULDN'T WE SAY HEY, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA, EACH THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE CERTIFICATION.

>> THIS CERTIFICATION THING, FOR ONE, SHE COULD QUALIFY FOR IT DOING WHATEVER BECAUSE SHE HAS BEEN A TEACHER AND ALL OF THAT.

WHO CARES, BECAUSE SHE'S NOT GOING TO THE WITH THE DISTRICT COME THE END OF THIS SCHOOL YEAR.

..

MIGHTY ALSO SAY -- AND I REALLY WANT TO SAY THIS, THE VALUE OF REPORTERS AND THE VALUE OF DAILY NEWSPAPER IS BEING PLAYED OUT WITH YOUR REPORTER AT THE POST DISPATCH THAT'S COVERING THE STORY BECAUSE A LOT OF THE NONSENSE WOULD NOT BE BEING REPORTED ON AT ALL.

IT NEEDS TO HAVE A LIGHT SHINED ON IT.

KUDOS TO HER.

AS FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, SHE'S THE INTERIM.

OBVIOUSLY SHE'S GOING TO BE GONE, OTHER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE GONE.

WHEN THE AUDIT COMES OUT, LORD KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE MOVING ON.

THE FACT SHE'S..

RIGHT NOW, THAT IS SMALL POTATOES TO THE SLEW OF MESS THEY HAVE DOWN THERE.

>> A WONDERFUL JOB REPORTING BUT WE HAD AN EDITORIAL ABOUT THIS VERY THING, ABOUT THIS BORDER STATE BEING THE SUPERINTENDENT, THAT IF WE ARE THROWING DR. SCARLET OUT BECAUSE OF CRONYISM WHY IN THE WORLD ARE WE PUTTING HER NO.

1 CRONY IN THE TOP JOB.

IT'S TOTALLY RIDICULOUS.

>> BUT NOT ONLY THAT BUT WITH THE TRAIL OF TEARS RESUME.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE AS FAR BACK AS 2010 TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT SHE WAS A BULLY, THAT SHE DESTROYED PROGRAMS THAT WERE IN PLACE IN CERTAIN SCHOOL DISTRICTS, HOW SHE ACHIEVED $200,000.

IS T..

HERE?

BE A FABULOUS NOVEL ONE OF THESE DAYS.

>>.. >> THEY ARE PRETTY SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS.

WHERE THERE'S SMOKE -- SHE'S A TEACHER, EDUCATOR.

WHERE THERE'S SMOKE, THERE'S FIRE.

.. SOLITARY STOP ALONG THE WAY.

>> CRAZY DEFENSE, WELL, SHE'S SUCH A WARM AT VO CAT FOR CHILDREN, AND IT MAKES SOME ADULTS UNCOMFORTABLE.

>> DON'T LET YOUR LICENSE EXPIRE.

>.. BAD DEFENSE.

I WILL OFFER A SLIGHTLY BETTER ONE.

THERE'S ALREADY BEEN S..

INSTABILITY AND SO MUCH CHAOS.

IF THERE'S SOMEONE THEY ARE AT THE TOP BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE WHOSE HEADS HAVE BEEN CHOPPED OFF BUT TO STICK WITH THEM AND WATCH THEM VERY CLOSELY, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE TO SAY WE NEED TO BRING IN A WHOLE NEW PERSON.

IT'S SO COMPLICATED TO START A NEW JOB.

>> I CAN DEFEND HAVING HER THERE UNTIL THE END OF THIS SCHOOL YEAR.

IF.. SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY, THEY NEED TO BEGIN A SEARCH IMMEDIATELY.

EVERY CANDIDATE THAT APPLIES NEEDS TO BE VETTED BY THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

>..

APPLY, REALLY?

>> YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE PRETTY DESPERATE TO COME TO ST. LOUIS SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW.

THE ST. LOUIS PUBLIC RADIO IS REPORTING THIS WEEK THAT THE KIDS ARE BEING TRANSPORTED TO SCHOOL IN CARS WITH EXPIRED LICENSE PLATES.

>> CHARLIE, AT LEAST FIVE PEOPLE APPLIED FOR THE JOB, AND IT WAS DOWN.

WHO ALREADY WORKED IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

ONE WAS FROM THE OTHER CITY.

WE DON'T KNOW.

>> I THOUGHT THERE WERE TWO MEN WHO WERE QUALIFIED ON THE BOARD SOW-NOT ON THE BOARD BUT IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WHO NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.

>> I THINK THEY HIRED THE WRONG POSITION.

>&g.. SHADMS.

BORISHADE TAKING IT TO THE END OF THE YEAR.

>> 30 AMBASSADORS FOR DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS.

MY UNDERST..

GOING TO WALK THE STREETS DURING THE DAY AND EVENING UNTIL 11:00 AT NIGHT FOR EXACTLY 7 DAYS A WEEK.

FOR DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS.

THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN?

>> THEY ARE UNARMED, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT.

>>.. OR T-SHIRTS?

>> I THINK SO.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A COMMUNITY FILLED WITH PEOPLE WHO LOVE THEIR HOMETOWN, WHO LOVE WHERE THEY LIVE, WHO WANT TO DO SOMETHING GOOD TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.

BUT WH..

DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE AMBASSADORS ARE ABOUT TO DO, EMBARK ON, I JUST THOUGHT THEY ARE LAMBS -- THEY COULD BE INJURED.

THEY COULD BE KILLED.

>> LAMBS TO THE SLAUGHTER.

>> LAMBS TO THE SLAUGHTER.

THEY WILL BE TRAINED TO TELL WHEN A SITUATION IS ESCALATING.

YOU HAVE NO LEGAL AUTHORITY.

YOU HAVE NO WEAPON.

I JUST THINK THESE PEOPLE EVER GOING TO BE SERVED UP ON A PLATTER.

IT'S AN .. GOODNESS.

I TH.. OUT AGAIN.

>> I DON'T THINK THE SITUATION DOWNTOWN IS SUCH THAT A PERSON WALKING AROUND BEING THE EYES AND EARS AND BEING ABLE TO RADIO FOR HELP IS IN ANY DANGER WHATSOEVER.

I MEAN, .. AROUND IN DOWNTOWN ST. LOUIS.

HAVING MORE PEOPLE DOING THAT AND HAVING.

>> DEESCALATE?

>>..

LOOKING LIKE THEY ARE GOING TO CAUSE SOME TROUBLE, YOU DON'T GO INTO THE MIDDLE OF THAT AND DEESCALATE.

>> THAT'.. LIKE I SAID, YOU GET MORE PEOPLE ON THE STREETS, AND THEY WILL BE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE COPS.

I THINK IT'S ALL GOOD.

GIVE PEOPLE ADVICE.

WE ARE GOING TO FIND.. EAT, STUFF LIKE THAT.

>> LIKE I SAID, THEY ARE ANGELS.

>> IF THEY PUT A BERET AND CALL THEMSELVES GUARDIAN AN ANGELS I THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

>> I THI..

THE STREET AT 9:00.

>> THAT'S WHEN STUFF STARTS TO HAPPEN.

>..

THE MEANWHILE.

>> I STILL PRAY FOR THEIR SAFETY.

>.. SARAH, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT A TIFT BETWEEN MARK MAXWELL THE POLITICAL EDITOR OF KSD5 AND THE SENATOR FROM THE GREAT STATE OF MISSOURI, JOSH HAWLEY.

MAX SAID HAWLEY WAS TAKING CREDIT OF MONEY THAT CAME FOR MILITARY SERVICES IN MISSOURI EVEN THOUGH HE VOTED AGAINST THE BILL THAT AUTHORIZED THOSE FUNDS.

IN RESPONSE HAWLEY WENT AFTER MAXWELL, AND ON TWITTER HE SAID HE WAS FIRED FROM A PREVIOUS JOB FOR UNETHICAL BEHAVIOR.

THANK GOODNESS FOR YOUR NEWS SOURCE BECAUSE YOU LOOKED INTO IT AND FOUND TO THE CONTRARY HE LEFT ON EXTREMELY GOOD TERMS.

>> HE WAS ABLE TO TALK TO MAXWELL'S FORMER BOSS.

HE WENT ON THE RECORD AND SAID THERE'S NO SUCH THING.

IT APPEARS, FROM EVERYTHING WE CAN TELL, THAT HAWLEY INVENTED THIS OUT OF HOLE HOLE CLOTH.

TO PRESENT IT AS RUMOR I THINK MARK MAXWELL SHOULD SUE HIM FOR DEFAMATION.

I TH.. DEFAMATORY.

>>..

BUT I THINK THE DEFENSE HE USED IS THE ONE RUSH LIMBAUGH USED TO USE.

.. NOBODY BELIEVES ME.

HAWLEY COULD SAY WHEN I WAS RUNNING FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL AND SAID THIS IS ALL I WANT, THIS IS NOT A STEPPING STONE, AND TWO MONTHS AFTER HE GOT ELECTED HE ANNOUNCED I'M RUNNING FOR SENATE.

.. AND FAMOUS FOR RACING AWAY FROM THE FIGHT.

HE COULD MAKE A GOOD ARGUM..

THINKING NOBODY IN MISSOURI REALLY THINKS THAT.

>> I THINK IF HE WERE TO SUE, I THINK HE COULD POSSIBLY WIN.

I REALLY DO.

I THINK PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE, SO TO SPEAK, ARE GETTING A LITTLE TIRED AND WEARY OF THIS.

YOU JUST CAN'T LIE ON PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR PROFESSION, AND IT COULD LEAD TO THEM POSSIBLY LOSING THEIR JOB.

I THINK THAT'S A RECOURSE THAT MR. MAXWELL SHOULD CONSIDER.

I THINK THAT THERE IS A CHANCE THAT HE COULD WIN.

I KNOW LIABLE AND SLANDER ARE HARD TO PROVE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME A LITTLE MALLS AFORETHOUGHT AND HE AND SENATOR HAWLEY HAVE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON OTHER THINGS.

>.. ALSO SAID THAT MAXWELL WAS EATING PEOPLE'S CATS AND DOGS.

>> I REALLY LIKE MARK MAX WELL, I THINK HE'S ONE OF THOSE THROW BACKS TO THE HOLD DAYS AND LIKE HIM A LOT.

I HAVE A FEELING THAT HE ACTUALLY WOULD WIN THIS.

I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLLING AFTER THE VICE PRESENTATIOPRESIDENTIAL DEBATE, WE WANT TH E NASTY SCORCHED EARTH TO BE OFFER, I THINK.

>> IT PROBABLY WOULD DEPEND ON WHERE THE LAWSUIT WAS THRIVING, IN THE CITY OR THE COUNTY.

HAWLEY PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE A CHANCE.

IF Y.. VENUE.

>> I THINK IT COMES TO YOUR -- GOING BACK TO JOURNALISM 101 LAW, IT'S YOUR COMMUNITY.

YOUR COMMUNITY COULD BE ONE PERSON.

..

IT COULD BE WHERE YOU LIVE.

I THINK IT PUTS IT SQUARELY IN ST. LOUIS OR ST. LOUIS COUNTY.

>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT PLANS THAT THE ST. LOUIS BUSINESS JOURNAL ARE REPORTING ABOUT THIS WEEK THAT COMMUNITY LEADERS ARE IN DISCUSSIONS FOR A NONSTOP ARE LINGUS FEET BETWEEN THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS, LAMBERT FIELD AND DUBLIN IN IRELAND.

WE HAVE ONE EUROPEAN STOP AND THAT'S TO FRANKFURT THREE DAYS A WEEK.

THERE'S A $5 MILLION GRANT FROM THE STATE THAT WOULD HELP SUBSIDIZE AE ARE LINGUS.

IT COULD BE BETTER SPENT ELSEWHERE THAN SHOVELING ST. LOUISIANS IN DUBLIN BACK AND FORTH.

WH.. >> AFTER I JUST CAME AGAINST REPARATIONS NOT WANTING POOR PEOPLE TO GET CHECKS, I SAY YEAH, LET'S SPEND THE MONEY.

BUT I THINK THERE IS A GOOD ARGUMENT TO BE MADE TO HELP THE CITY GROW AND BE PROSPEROUS WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT DIRECT FLIGHTS NOT JUST TO EUROPE BUT DIRECT FLIGHTS ALMOST ANYWHERE, HARDER AND HARDER TO GET.

REPARATIONS, I WILL LET SOMEBODY ELSE MAKE THAT ARGUMENT.

>> YOU WEREN'T AGAINST REPARATIONS.

YOU ..

POSSIBILITY.

>>.. >> I YIELD MY TIME TO WE SAI WENDY.

>> I WILL AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE, TOO.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE FLYING AS MANY PLACES AS WE CAN.

WE TALKED ABOUT OUR SORRY AIRPORT, WHICH YOU DEFENDED.

ONE WAY TO SPRUCE IT UP, WE HAVE A LOT MORE FLIGHTS GOING A LOT MORE PLACES.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY $5 MILLION ISN'T A LOT OF MONEY.

FANTASTIC GENTLEMAN STOPPED BY WITH A TREMENDOUS CHECK FOR CHANNEL 9 THAT WE JUST SAW.

WE ARE VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT.

>> AND THE TEACHER WHO GAVE A MILLION DOLLARS.

>> I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY BUT IT'S KIND OF NOT A LOT OF MONEY IF IT GETS US INTERNATIONAL.

>> I FEEL LIKE I HAVE HIT THAT HORSE A FEW TOO MANY TIMES TONIGHT, BUT I AM AGAINST THIS, EXPIET BEING SOMEONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GO TO DUBLIN NONSTOP.

I'M SKEPTICAL ON THIS.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE SUCCESSFUL FLIGHT TO FRANKFURT.

THEY ARE BACK DOWN TO THE THREE DAYS A WEEK.

THEY COULDN'T DO SOMETHING MORE BUT I'M SO GRATEFUL THAT THIS IS SUCCESSFUL RIGHT NOW.

IF WE START SUBSIDIZING SOMETHING THAT COULD PEEL OFF A BUNCH OF EUROPEAN TRAVELERS EVEN TO A DIFFERENT DESTINATION, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

WE WOULD BE CREATING A SITUATION WHERE WE COULD END UP SEEING BOTH FAIL.

WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY DIRE.. EUROPE TRAVELERS AROUND.

>> SORRY, GUYS.

I'M SORRY.

>> I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO GO TO DUBLIN.

YOUR NATIVE CLEVELAND, OHIO, HAS NONSTOP TO DUBLIN.

THEY HAVE LONDON, PAIRS, AND PITTSBURGH MIGHT HAVE TWO NONSTOPS LIKE THAT.

BUT IT'S NOT NEAR FRANKFURT.

>> IF YOU ASK PEOPLE, DUBLIN, FRANKFURT, THEY WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO GO DUBLIN.

>> THAT'S MAKING SARAH'S POINT, THOUGH.

>.. >> YOU WANTED A FLIGHT TO BELLFAST, IF I UNDERSTAND.

>> ALVIN REID, THERE WAS A PRESS CONFERENCE BY THE ST. LOUIS CARDINALS THIS WEEK, AND THEY ANNOUNCED, AMONG OTHER THINGS, THAT THERE WOULD BE A SUCCESSFUL TO JOHN, HE'S COMING BACK FOR ANOTHER YEAR MUCH TO THE CHAGRIN OF A LOT OF FANS OUT THERE AFTER THE SEASON WHICH WASN'T OUR BEST AND ANNOUNCED THEY WILL BE SPENDING LESS MONEY ON PAYROLL.

I HAVE NEVER SEEN COLUMNISTS AND OTHERS AS CRITICAL OF THE CARDINALS AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.

IS THIS THE CRANKIEST CARDINAL NATION HAS EVER BEEN?

>> I HAVEN'T LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE.

VERY SUCCESSFUL FRANCHISE.

IN DOWN YEARS, AND IT WAS NOT LIKE THIS.

I'M KIND OF LIKE I'M WITH THOSE THAT ARE DISGRUNTLED, AND THEY FINALLY GOT TO THE POINT WHERE I SAID OH, MY GOSH, THAT MUM BO JUMBO, THAT WAS IT.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS.

LOOK, IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY LOOK WE ARE GOING TO REBUILD THE TEAM RNTION SAY WE ARE GOING TO REBUILD THE TEAM.

BUT ALL OF THAT, WE WERE PREPARED FOR ATTENDANCE TO GO DOWN BASED ON OUR PERFORMANCE LAST YEAR.

IN FACT, IT WASN'T AS BIG A HIT AS WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, ALMOST GLOATING WE STILL MADE MONEY OFF OF YOU, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T COME AND THEN SAY WE ARE GOING TO CUT PAYROLL IN PART BECAUSE YOU DEPENDENT COME TO THE GAME.

>> IT SEEMED LIKE THE FARM SYSTEM, WHICH EVERYBODY IN TERMS OF DEVELOPING PLAYERS, THAT SEEMS TO NEED A LOT OF WORK, BUT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT ANALYTICS, WHICH TOOK ME BACK TO TIMES THAT I HAVE ENJOYED MONEY BALL.

.. BECAUSE JOHN MOZELIAK, HE HAS GIVEN US GREAT SUCCESSES.

HE'S A WONDERFUL MAN, BUT HE'S GOT TO HIT THE ROAD.

HE'S GOT TO HIT THE ROAD.

AND I WAS GOING TO SAY HIT THE ROAD, JACK.

BUT IT'S JOHN.

MIKE SHILT HAS TO BE SCRATCHING HIS HEAD.

BUY HIM OUT.

MOVE US FORWARD.

IT DOESN'T MAKE A BIT OF SENSE.

>> ARE WE SURE THE CARDINAL NATION ISN'T SPOILED?

>> NO DOUBT.

>> DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LOSE.

>> THAT'S PART OF IT..

SAME TIME, I THINK ST. LOUIS FANS ARE IN A WAY BECOMING -- NOT BECOMING BUT STARTING TO UNDERSTAND MAYBE HOW SOME OTHER FRANCHISE'S FANS FEEL SOMETIMES.

YOU KNOW WHAT.

YOU ARE KIND OF -- THIS AIN'T RIGHT.

THIS..

INTERESTING.

APPARENTLY THE WHITE SOX WERE SO BAD THAT THERE IS GREAT INTEREST IN THE WHITE SOX.

>> SO IT'S LIKE MEL BROOKS, THE PRODUCERS.

>&g.. >> THAT'S ENOUGH OUT OF YOU, BASEBALL FANS.

LET'S SEE WHAT FOLKS.. ABOUT LAST WEEK'S PROGRAM.

ATTORNEY GENERAL ANDREW BAILEY SAYS HE ADVOCATED FOR THE EXECUTION OF MARCELLUS WILLIAMS BECAUSE HE WANTED TO REPRESENT THE FAMILY OF LEASH A GAYLE.

IN A MEETING WITH THE PRESIDING JUDGE, HER FAMILY SAID JUST THE OPPOSITE, FROM TIMOTHY KING OF FENTON, OUR COURTS ARE SO STARVED OF RESOURCES THAT IT TAKES FIVE YEARS FOR AN ILLEGAL MIGRANT TO BE DEPORTED.

IF WE WANT FAST ACTION, WE NEED A HUGE REINVESTMENT IN DEPORTATION COURTS, JUDGES AND LAWYERS, THAT FROM DEBORAH MOLE TON.

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