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>> WELCOME BACK.

ANOTHER ED.. GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

JUST LESS THAN TWO WEEKS AWAY FROM THE ELECTION, ALTHOUGH THE VOTING HAS STARTED.

WE WILL GET INTO SOME OF THAT.

BUT FIRST LET'S MEET THE PANEL ITS STARTING WITH WENDY WIESE FROM THE BIG 550 KTRS.

JAY CAB CURCOB CURN, MANAGING EDITOR OF TH E ST. LOUIS BUSINESS JOURNAL.

WITH THE ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH AND STL TODAY.COM, COLUMNIST SPORTS EDITOR FROM THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN, ALVIN REID.

JOE, WE ARE GOING TO START WITH YOU, BECAUSE KIM CARD INNER WHO WAS A TOPIC ON MANY A THURSDAY HERE ON NINE PBS, THE FORMER CIRCUIT ATTORNEY AGREED TO PAY RESTITUTION FOR MORE THAN $5,000.

SHE MISAPPROPRIATED WHILE SHE WAS A CIRCUIT ATTORNEY.

AS YOU KNOW, THE MISSOURI SUPREME COURT FINED HER AND REPRIMANDED HER FOR HER ROLE IN THE PROSECUTION OF ERIC GREITENS, THEN THE GOVERNOR.

SHE PAID HER FINE THROUGH PUBLIC DOLLARS.

SH.. AND BASICALLY AS BILL MCCLELLAN MIGHT SAY THEY DIDN'T THROW THE BOOK AT HER.

SHE GOES ON PROBATION, HAS TO PAY $5,000.

WAS THAT A LITTLE TOO LIGHT A SENTENCE?

>> I'M OKAY WITH IT.

THE THING IS WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE TEACHABLE MOMENTS.

I THINK MS. GARDNER CAN SEE HOW AN EFFICIENT AND WELL RUN PROSECUTOR WITH OPERATE AND ACTUALLY USE GOOD JUDGMENT AND NOT PUTTING SOMEONE IN JAIL BUT FINING THEM.

I THIN.. HOW IT IS SHE SHOULD HAVE OPERATED HER OFFICE FOR THE 7 YEARS SHE WAS IN THERE.

>> THAT SAID, I HOPE THERE ARE CONDITIONS ON HER PROBATION WHERE SHE HAS TO REPORT PERIODICALLY, HAS TO PAY RESTITUTION.

I HOPE E.. AREA MARKS ON THEIR CALENDARS TO MAKE PERIODIC CHECKS TO MAKE SURE SHE'S PAID.

IF SHE SLIPS UP ONE TIME, THEN I BELIEVE SOME TIME WOULD BE REQUIRED.

>> THERE'S.. BRING UP.

NO.

1, LARRY ARNOWITZ, HE USED CAMPAIGN FUNDS ON HIS ROOF.

HE WENT TO JAIL AND DIED SHORTLY THEREAFTER.

IS T.. KIM GARDNER IS USING TAX MONEY?

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

>> THE OTHER THING, I THINK IT'S FAIR FOR SOMEONE TO ASK GENTLEMAN NAY EDMUN EDMONDSON'S THAT THERE WILL BE NO CRIMINAL RECORD OF ANY KIND FOR KIM GARDNER.

I KNOW IT'S NOT RELATED TO THIS CRIME BUT IT WAS A MAJOR MISSTEP.

>&g.. THAT, BUT THERE WILL BE A RECORD BECAUSE YOU PUT KIM GARDNER IN THE GOOGLE MACHINE FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE.

>> LET ME ASK YOU THIS: DOES SHE STILL HAVE HER LAW LICENSE AND SHOULD SHE?

AFTER MISUSING PUBLIC FUNDS, SHOULD SHE HAVE HER NURSING LICENSE?

>> NURSING LICENSE, I THINK THE TWO DON'T PARTICULARLY HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH EACH OTHER.

ATTORNEYS DON'T LIKE TO TAKE OTHER ATTORNEYS LAW LICENSES AND IF THEY DID, HOW MANY OF US WOULD SAY SHE SHOULD HAVE THE LAW LICENSE.

I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WOULD SAY THAT.

I'M WITH JOE.

THERE'S A REMOTE CHANCE, AND I DON'T BELIEVE IT, AND NEITHER DO YOU, BUT THERE'S A CHANCE ACCOUNTS DID GET MIXED UP OR SOMEBODY WROTE THE WRONG CHECK TO THE WRONG PLACE.

IT IS POSSIBLE SHE COULD HAVE BEAT THE RAP AND WENT TO TRIAL AND NOT GET CONVICTED.

THIS WAY AT LEAST YOU KNOW I DID IT, I'M GOING TO PAY THE MONEY BACK.

ALSO, THESE PRETRIAL AGREEMENTS, PEOPLE DO THAT THAT HAVE DWIS AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE ASSAULTED THEIR PARTNER.

>> HER OFFICE WAS UPSIDE DOWN AND REALLY HAMSTRUNG, I THINK, THE CITY, IF NOT THE REGION.

SHE WAS THE NO.

1 STORY FOR THE LONGEST TIME.

SHE WAS ALWAYS SCAPEGOATING.

THIS IS ONLY HAPPENING TO ME BECAUSE OF THIS PERSON OR THAT PERSON, OR IT'S A WITCH HUNT OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

WHENEVER I HAVE SEEN HER INTERVIEWED, SHE'S AN INCREDIBLY LIKABLE PERSON IN MY MIND.

SHE'S AN INCREDIBLY EXCELLING INCREDIBLY C OMPELLING FIGURE.

..

HER.

OUT OF CONTROL.

THE LINES WERE ALWAYS MOVED FOR HER.

FOR TH.. JOE, IF SHE STEPS OUT OF LINE FOR A NANO SECOND.

>> BUT SHE ALREADY DID.

THIS IS NOT HER FIRST OFFENSE.

HER FIRST OFFENSE WAS SUPPORTING PERJURY.

AND SHE .. REPRIMANDED FOR THAT.

THEY THREW THE PAMPHLET AT HER, DEPENDENT THROW THE BOOK.

DIDN'T THROW THE BOOK.

SHE VIOLATES A SUPREME COURT ORDER.

NOW, THIS IS R..

THE NO.

1 PROSECUTOR AND THE LAWYER, NOW SHE'S FINALLY GOING TO LEARN HER LESSON.

>> IF THERE WAS SOME KIND OF MISTAKE OR SHE DEPENDENT KNOW WHICH FUNDS COULD BE USED WHERE, YOU HAVE TO INVESTIGATE OR YOU HAVE TO ASK OR YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR STAFF ASK.

IT WAS CRIMINAL.

>> WAIT.

SH.. SHE DIDN'T SAY TELL YOU WHAT I'M GOING TO DO.

I DON'T THINK YOU ARE UPSET MAYBE WITH KIM GARDNER AS YOU ARE WITH THE PROSECUTORS OFFICE.

>> BUT SHE DID IT.

>> IF IN SOME WAY I WAS SOME WAY DEFENDING KIM GARDNER, AND I DON'T THINK SHE LEARNED A THING.

>> YOU NEVER DEFENDED HER.

>> I WAS GOING TO THROW THIS IN HERE, TOO, AND THE REASON THAT STORY IS IN THE ST. LOUIS AMERICAN THIS WEEK IS BECAUSE I LITERALLY FELT LIKE NO, THIS HAS TO BE IN THE PAPER.

BECAUSE UNLESS SHE AND STEP OUT OF LINE, THIS WILL BE THE CLOSING CHAPTER ON THE KIM GARDNER AS PROSECUTOR.

>> SPEAKING OF MONEY, AND WE JUST WERE, ALVIN REID, AS A STATE, MISSOURI HAS ALREADY SPENT $52 MILLION OR APPROPRIATED IT FOR THE WORLD CUP WHICH WILL PLAY IN KANSAS CITY, AND ONE OF A DOZEN OR MORE CITIES IN THE COUNTRY IN 2026.

NOW SOME STATE AGENCIES WANT ANOTHER $9 MILLION, AND IT COULD GO NORTH OF THAT.

THIS IS FOR SPORTS IN THE SUMMER OF 2026.

AS YOU KNOW,.. GET A PAY INCREASE, BUT IT'S ONLY UP TO $40,000, SO IT'S NOT THAT MUCH.

WE HAVE AMONG THE LO.. TEACHERS IN THE STATE.

CAN WE JUSTIFY MORE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR SOCCER?

>> ABSOLUTELY, BECAUSE IT'S THE WORLD CUP, AND IT IS THE BIGGEST SPORTING EVENT PRETTY MUCH IN THE WORLD, AND MISSOURI HAS GOT A PIECE OF IT.

LET'S DO IT RIGHT.

LET'S FIND THIS MONEY FOR THEM.

I THINK THIS IS MONEY THAT'S WELL SPENT.

AS MUCH AS WE DON'T LIKE THE N.F.L., IF THE N.F.L.

CALLED US UP AND SAID IF YOU COME UP WITH $20 MILLION, WE WILL HAVE THE SUPER BOWL IN ST. LOUIS, AND YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO HAVE A TEAM.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR ST. LOUIS, JUST LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT FOR KANSAS CITY.

BUT ALL IN ALL, IT'S GREAT FOR MISSOURI.

FIND.. GIVE THEM THE MONEY.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU, BECAUSE THE WORLD CUP IS SOMETHING I DIDN'T KNOW A THING ABOUT, NOT A THING ABOUT, STILL NON DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT.

BUT IN TERMS OF SHEER NUMBERS, IT IS OVERWHELMING.

HOWEVER, BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS A HOWEVER, ARE WE PREPARED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

THAT IS THE CRUSH OF THE WORLD.

WE WOULD BE THE FOCAL POINT OF THAT, AND WE WOULD NEED AN INFRASTRUCTURE.

>> I.. BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE IN ABOUT A DOZEN CITIES IN THIS COUNTRY AND SOME CITIES IN CANADA AND MEXICO AS WELL.

WE ARE GOING TO BE ONE CITY OUT OF MANY.

>> ALSO THERE IS, I BELIEVE, A CHANCE AFTER THEY HAVE NOT -- I THINK THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME IS GOING TO BE IN JERRY WORLD IN DALLAS OR LOS ANGELES BUT THERE'S A CHANCE TO MOST ROUND 16 GAME.

IT C.. TWO DAYS THAT WE HAVE.

>> SOME TEAMS COULD PRACTICE IN ST. LOUIS.

>> IT'S A GOOD THING.

>> WE NEED THAT.

WE NEED IT RIGHT NOW.

>> YES, WE DO.

>> LET ME BE THE NAYSAYER THEN.

I DON'T LIKE SPENDING TAXPAYER MONEY TO LET PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS PUT ON THEIR SPORTING EVENTS.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT..

RUNS SOCCER.

WITH THE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF THE INTERNATIONAL OLYMPIC COMMITTEE, THE AMOUNT OF SCANDAL THAT RUNS THROUGH AN ORGANIZATION, FIFA IS WAY HIGH ON THE LIST.

YOU WANT TO PUT A TOURNAME..

IN THE UNITED STATES NORTH AMERICA, FEEL FREE.

YOU HAVE A TON OF MONEY.

GO SPEND IT.

>> THEY CAN'T DO INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS IN THE STATE OF MISSOURI, AND THAT'S WHAT'S NEEDED AND ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT MASS TRANSIT AND SOME OF IT WILL GO TO INCREASED BUS SERVICE AND MAY EXPAND THE TROLLEY SERVICE.

>> THEY WANT TO EXPAND THE AMTRAK RUN.

WHAT D.. WILL SAY ABOUT AMTRAK.

>> OR THE ASIANS?

>> I THINK IF FIFA WANTS TO FIX OUR ROADS, HAVE THEM WRITE A CHECK FOR $20 MILLION AND PAVE THE ROADS FOR KANSAS CITY.

>> I THINK YOU'RE BEING VERY OPTIMISTIC, AND I'M WITH YOU.

>> WENDY, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT DARLENE GREEN, THE COMPTROLLER FOR THE CITY OF ST. LOUIS WHO WANTS A REBOOT OF THE ST. LOUIS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION'S PROCESS OF VETTING THE GRANT WINNERS FOR 37 MILLION FEDERAL DOLLARS FOR NORTH ST. LOUIS?

YOU KNOW THE MAYOR HAS THIS PLAN TO REJUVENATE NORTH ST. LOUIS.

THE ONLY PROBLEM IS IT'S BEEN DISCOVERED BY THE POST DISPATCH AND A FEW OTHERS THAT IT TURNS OUT THAT THEY DECIDED TO AWARD THE GRANTS BEFORE VETTING THE ORGANIZATIONS RECEIVING THE GRANTS.

SO..

VACANT LOTS, AND POLITICALLY CONNECTED PEOPLE ARE GETTING THIS MONEY.

DARLENE GREEN, THE COMPTROLLER SAYS OKAY, LET'S DO A REDO.

THE MAYOR SAYS THE ONE THING WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO IS START ALL OVER.

&g.. WASN'T IT, TO Z GIVE THE MONEY AWAY WITHOUT VETTING THESE PEOPLE?

I .. GREEN, AND NO OFFICE IS WITHOUT ITS ISSUES, BUT I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT OF DARLENE GREEN AS A GROWN-UP.

IF SHE S..

PROCESS NEEDS A REDO, BECAUSE AS YOU SAID VACANT BUILDINGS, AND SOMEBODY I INTHEN IT NEEDS A REDO.

HOPEFULLY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE WORK THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO MAY BE MADE WHOLE AND EVERYTHING WILL WORK OUT.

BUT JUST FOR THE PROGRAM AND THE BELIEF IN THE PROGRAM MOVING FORWARD, REDO.

>> A YEAR AGO DARLENE GREEN WAS THE SECOND WORST ELECTED OFFICIAL BEHIND KIM GARDNER, ACCORDING TO SOME PEOPLE THAT SHE'S NEVER THERE.

I DEFENDED HER THEN.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED A REDO.

I THINK THAT IF YOU WANTED TO JUST PUT IT ALL OUT THERE, LIKE I WANT EVERY APPLICATION, EVERYTHING ELSE, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

NOW YOU CAN GO BACK AND JUDGE.

REDO MEANS YOU ARE TAKING BACK MONEY FROM PEOPLE THAT RECEIVE SOME OF IT.

ROBIN MONTGOMERY, SHE'S GOT SOME MONEY AND DOING A DEVELOPMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE.

IT'S ON THE UP AND UP.

SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO NOT GET WHAT WAS GRANTED TO HER OR HAVE TO GIVE BACK WHEN SHE HAD ALREADY RECEIVED A CHECK.

THAT'S NOT FAIR.

I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD WANT TO GO WITH A REDO.

WITH DARLENE THIS TIME, WHEN SHE ASKED FOR THIS, TO DO ALL OVER AGAIN, IF SHE HAD USED THE STOARTS THAT YOU ALL DID, AND THE BUSINESS JOURNAL, TOO, AND SAID THESE WERE THE FACTS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BUT THE MANIFESTO SHE HAMMERED TO THE DOOR WAS FULL OF I WAS TOLD THIS AND I HEARD THIS.

THAT'S NOT FACTUAL INFORMATION.

IF YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE BASED ON SOMEBODY TOLD YOU WHAT YOU HEARD, THAT'S NOT GOOD.

>> SOMETIMES I WISH WE WOULD STEP BACK AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN AND CITY DID.

.. OPEN BOOK, YOU COULD DO WHATEVER YOU WANTED WITH THIS MONEY, AND THIS IS WHAT THE MAYOR AND THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN CHOSE TO DO.

THERE'S ELEMENTS, INCLUDING THIS PLAN PARTICULAR, INCLUDING THE CONSOLATION GRANTS.

>> HUSH MONEY.

>> IT'S REALLY QUESTIONABLE.

WHAT IS THE EFFECT?

WILL I IN FIVE YEARS BE ABLE TO DRIVE DOWN MLK OR PAGE AND SEE SOMETHING DIFFERENT?

WITH THINGS COMING OUT IN TERMS OF HOW THIS PROGRAM IS BEING ORGANIZED, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S THE CASE.

>> FIRST OF ALL, IT'S AMAZING HOW HAVING AN OPPONENT IN THE UPCOMING ELECTION SPURS YOU ON.

DARLENE GREEN WHO HAS AN OPPONENT THIS TIME AROUND, SEEMS TO HAVE GRABBED ON TO THIS.

IT'S LIKE A TIRE.

YOU GET A FLAT.

YOU PUT A PATCH ON IT.

WHEN YOU HAVE MORE PATCH THAN RUBBER, IT'S TIME TO GET A NEW TIRE.

.. ONE.

IF M..

ENOUGH TO WIN THE FIRST TIME, IT WILL BE GOOD ENOUGH THIS TIME.

RESTART IT AGAIN, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH.

LETTER TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY SAYING PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS AND SPECIFIED ST. LOUIS, SPECIFIED THAT THE PROBLEMS OF MENTIONING THE VACANT HOMES, ADD DOCTORS THAT DIDN'T WORK, PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T HAVE GOOD IDEAS AND MENTIONS THAT A MILLION OR SO DOLLARS AND CALLED OUT BY NAME ALDER WOMAN CLARK HUBBARD.

IT SHOULD BE ONLINE, AND IT WILL BE IN OUR PAPER TOMORROW, WE HOPE.

SPECIFIED THIS PROGRAM IN ST. LOUIS NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.

THIS IS NOT REALLY ANY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S FACING THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.

WHEN WE SAT HERE AND LOOKE..

THE MAGNITUDE OF THE PROBLEM, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WELL, WE DIDN'T DOT OUR EYES AND CROSS OUR T'S, IT'S FUNDAMENTALLY UNSOUND AND FRAUDULENT OR MISUSE OF FUNDS WHICH EVERYBODY THOUGHT ARPA MONEY WAS GOING TO BE MISUSED ANYWAY.

>> THE MAYOR NEEDS TO GET THE MONEY OUT BEFORE SHE RUNS FOR REELECTION NEXT SPRING.

>> THERE ARE FEDERAL DEADLINES, TOO.

SPENT OR IT GOES BACK TO THE FEDS.

>> ONCE IT WAS.. SLDC, THEY HAVE AN EXTRA TWO YEARS.

TH.. DECEMBER 30th.

>>.. AND THEY WILL DECIDE HOW TO DO IT WHICH IS THE END OF 2026.

THIS IS RIE RIEF WITH QUESTIONS.

>> AND THERE ARE SOME GROUPS NO ONE CAN DISPUTE DOING GREAT WORK LIKE THE URBAN LEAGUE, LIKE MIKE MCMILLAN, GREAT GUY, GREAT ORGANIZATION.

WHY SH.. GET ITS SHARE OF THE PIE.

>> XEROX WHAT YOU DID THE FIRST TIME, SEND IT IN THE SECOND TIME.

.. >> SOMEBODY WOULD GET LESS MONEY, AND SOME WOULD GET MORE MONEY.

>.. TRANSPARENT MANNER, NO.

>> IF I HAD WON A GRANT OF THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY, JUST GIVE ME THAT MONEY.

>> OKAY.

LE.. TALKING ABOUT MONEY ON THIS SHOW, IT'S THE MONEY SHOW HERE ON NINE PBS.

ALVIN HAD A GREAT STORY THIS WEEK ON THE REPARATIONS COMMISSION WHICH IS IN CHARGE OF TAKING A LOOK AT SOME OF THE HARMS THAT AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE FACED THROUGHOUT HISTORY AND WHAT SHOULD BE DONE TO SOMEWHAT MAKE UP FOR THAT.

THE COMMISSION HAS COME UP WITH IDEAS FOR HEALTHCARE AND PROPERTY ENHANCEMENT, SOME OF WHICH WE TALKED ON THE SHOW BEFORE.

.. FOCUS ATTENTION ON NORTH ST. LOUIS AND SOUTHEAST ST. LOUIS WHERE THERE ARE LARGE AFRICAN-AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOODS AND FIX THEM UP AS A WAY..

GESTURE ANYWAY TO TRY AND IMPROVE OR BETTER PAST WRONGS.

>> THOSE SUGGESTIONS SEEM BROAD AND SOME OF THEM SOMEWHAT VAGUE.

AND THE ONE THAT STUCK OUT TO ME, AND I TALKED TO WILL ROSS WHO WAS ON THE PANEL APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR WAS ABOUT THE IDEA OF GIVING $25,000 TO DECEDENTS OF MILLCREEK VALLEY AND MCCREE TOWN, THE GROVE, AND IT WAS TAKEN DOWN AND THOSE OTHER AREAS WERE RAZEED A RAZEED AS WELL.

AND THE REP TRYINGS POLITICAL CALCULUS SEEMS INTERESTING.

AND THE CONSTITUTION SAYS YOU CAN'T GIVE MONEY TO INDIVIDUALS OR CORPORATIONS BUT WILL ROSS INTERESTINGLY SAID WE EXPECT A CHALLENGE AND WE WANT TO HAVE KIND OF A MORAL ARGUMENT IN THE PUBLIC SPHERE.

>> THAT'S FINE TO HAVE A DEBATE.

BUT THAT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

LISTEN.

.. AND JUST BASICALLY THE FACTS AND KIND OF WONDERING, AND I DOUBT THE EDITORIAL ME SAYS IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

GREAT, YOU.. SAID WE CAN USE MONEY FOR EDUCATION AND THIS AND WHAT NOT.

IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

NOW, WE HAD THE PLAN THROUGH SLDC, AND THAT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

>&g..

OKAY.

I LIVED .. LOUIS.

BUT I DIDN'T LIV..

I DON'T GET THE MONEY?

DESCENDANT?

ALL I .. CLASS LIFE IN THE '50s AND '60s.

I DON'T QUALIFY FOR .. >> THEY FELT THE HARMS WERE SO MUCH WORSE FOR THOSE CASES THAT IT WARRANTED EXTRA MONEY.

>> YOU ARE WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND A BLACK PERSON IN 1955.

>> IF IT'S HAPPENED IN PLACES LIKE EVANS STON ILLINOIS?

>> NO.

1, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

SORRY.

>> WITH THAT ATTITUDE.

>> ISN'T THE POINT UNDER THE BANNER OF RE REPARATIONS.

>> RESTORATION OR EDUCATION.

>> IF WE DO THAT, HOW IS IT ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE $37 MILLION ARPA PLAN FOR ST. LOUIS?

>> LET'S GET INTO THE SOCIOLOGY OF IT.

SOME WOULD SAY YES, HE WOULD GIVE YOU $1,000 UNDER THIS WHATEVER.

I WO.. REPARATION.

THAT'S H.. ATTITUDES ARE.

>> MAYBE.

>> I AGREE ABOUT THE PART WHEN I READ THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING.

IT SOUNDED GOOD.

IT JUST LACKED DETAILS.

WE WANT TO IMPROVE HEALTH AND EDUCATION.

VOTE F.. CANCER AND BRING PEACE TO THE MIDDLE EAST.

I DO.. THAT BUT I WANT TO.

THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF THESE PLANS, AND I'M NOT JUST SAYING THE REPARATIONS COMMITTEE.

SO MANY OF THE GHO.

PLANS HAVE THE WONDERFUL SOUNDING IDEAS THAT BECOME BASICALLY GENERALITIES AND PLATITUDES.

THERE'S NO DETAIL AS TO HOW AM I GOING TO MAKE THIS WORK.

THAT'S WHAT IS MISSING.

>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY VOTE FOR ME, AND I WILL SET YOU FREE.

>> SOMEBODY ALREADY SAID THAT.

>> MONEY THEME CONTINUES.

ALVIN REID TURNS OUT THIS WEEK IT WAS ANNOUNCED SPORTS BETTING, WHICH IS AMENDMENT 2 ON THE MISSOURI BALLOT THIS YEAR, HAS RECEIVED THE MOST CONTRIBUTIONS, POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS THAN ANY OTHER BALLOT MEASURE, AND TO ME THAT KIND OF SHOWS YOU HOW MUCH MONEY CAN BE MADE BY THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO BE RUNNING SPORTS BETTING.

AND HOW MUCH MONEY JACK AN.. SIX PACK ARE GOING TO LOSE.

>> SOMEBODY THAT I KNOW, ME, PLACED A BET IN KANSAS THIS PAST WEEKEND AND I WON.

BUT KANSAS GETS A LITTLE PIECE OF THAT.

I GET MY MONEY.

BUT THAT'S MONEY THAT SHOULD BE BY MO MOVEMENT MISSOURI.

I THINK IT WOULD BE PROFITABLE FOR THE STATE.

I'M NOT HERE TO MAKE JUDGMENT ON ALL OF THAT.

BY THE WAY, I DRIVE PAST THE OAK BEND BRANCH OF ST. LOUIS COUNTY LIBRARY SINCE THE FIRST DAY YOU COULD NO EXCUSE VOTING, JAM PACKED ALL DAY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE VOTING BUT PEOPLE ARE VOTING.

HOPEFULLY THEY ARE VOTING YEA.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS, ANYONE ON THE PANEL THAT THE TAX, STATE TAX ON THE SPORTS BETTING IS ONLY 10% WHEN IN RHODE ISLAND, NEW HAMPSHIRE AND NEW YORK IT'S 50%.

ARE WE RIPPING OURSELVES OFF?

>> OH, YEAH.

IT SHOULD BE HIG..

I THINK IT'S 30 IN ILLINOIS.

IT'S TOO LOW, BUT ALL OF OUR TAXES ARE TOO LOW IN MISSOURI.

>> MAYBE THESE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE SET UP ON THE SPORTS BOOK WILL GET MORE ACTIVITY BECAUSE THE TAXES ARE LOWER.

JUST LIKE THE MARIJUANA.

>> I CAN'T BELIEVE CHARLIE BRENNAN IS HERE SAYING HE WANTS HIGHER VIG.

I'M NOT GOING TO BET ONLINE.

I HONESTLY DON'T CARE WHICH WAY IT GOES, WHETHER IT PASSES OR NOT FROM A PERSONAL POINT OF VIEW.

THESE THINGS, WE HAVE SEEN IT WITH SUNDAY'S SALES.

WE HAVE SEEN IT WITH LIQUOR SALES.

YOU TRY TO DO IT, AND IT DOESN'T WORK.

&g.. TO LOSE THE MONEY NO MATTER WHAT.

..

I ADMIT IT.

BUT THE $10 THAT ALVIN SPENDS IN KANSAS IS NOT THE $10 YOU ARE GOING TO SPEND AT THE EXPHUMS SMUX.

.. CONSCIOUSNESS LIKE WE WERE.

>> I THINK WHEN THE RAMS LEFT, THERE WAS A FEELING THAT THE CONSUGGESTION SITUATION WAS REALLY INTENSE, AND PEOPLE WERE PREDICTING ALMOST A COLLAPSE MAYBE OF THE LEAGUE WITH WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

THEY ENDED UP DOING A SETTLEMENT ON THAT.

THE MEDIA LANDSCAPE ..

THEY UTTERLY DOMINATE THE BRA.

IT WENT FROM 70 OF THE TOP 100 AND NOW IT'S 95 ON THE TOP 100.

I DON'T THINK THIS TOWN UNDERSTOOD WHAT THEY WERE LOSING.

KA.. PEOPLE, AND THE MEDIA MENTIONS ARE MASSIVELY MORE.

YOU CAN ARGUE IT'S THE TAYLOR SWIFT, TRAVIS KELCE RELATIONSHIP RELATIONSHIP.

>>.. BACK.

THE ST. .. HIGH AS IT WERE WHEN THE N.F.L.

WAS HERE.

THE LEAGUE IS BIGGER THAN .. >> THAT'S WHAT WE ARE MISSING OUT ON RIGHT NOW, THE BIGGEST THING GOING ON IN SPORTS IS THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE.

AND WE HAD A FRANCHISE AND LET IT GET AWAY.

YOU CAN BE MAD AT THE MAN,..

HE WAS A SNAKE AND THE LEAGUE IS CROOKED.

I'M NOT .. WE HAD A CHANCE TO KEEP THEM.

WE DID NOT FULFILL THE CHANCE TO KEEP THEM.

>> I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT, TOO, WHEN WE WERE PUTTING IT TOGETHER.

DID WE M.. NO TO THE ARBITRATION.

>> THAT WAS THE DAY THAT WAS HYPED ON ON THE RADIO.

I SAID THAT $750 MILLION, GOT TO PAY.

>> BUT HE COULDN'T LEAVE.

>> THE SUBJECT AT HAND, AND WE ONLY HAVE 30 SECONDS TO GO.

WHAT DID BUZZ GET YOU?

WHAT DID BUZZ GET YOU IN GREEN BAY?

>> AUSTIN IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATION.

THIS IS WHEN PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEIR SUMMER VACATION PLANS.

I THINK JACOB IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

.. >> YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THE TURMOIL ON WASHINGTON AVENUE ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS IF THE FOOTBALL TEAM PLAYED ON SUNDAY, BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE SO MANY PEOPLE.

ALL THE HOTEL ROOMS WERE FILLED AND ALL OF THAT.

>> GREAT STORY, JACOB.

WE WILL HAVE TO CHECK IT OUT IN THE BUSINESS JOURNAL.

LET'S CHECK OUT THE VIEWER MAIL FROM LAST WEEK.

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