Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 20
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 20, 2024.
The Modernist Studies Association
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- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:15, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- The Modernist Studies Association → Pamela L. Caughie (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Arbitrary redirect to arbitrary person who served as president for a 1 year term: just like Susan McCabe, Cristanne Miller, and over 20 other people (see https://www.moderniststudies.org/about/past-presidents/). The MSA does not seem otherwise especially strongly connected to Caughie (nor any of the above), and certainly not strongly enough for a redirect. The association may possibly be independently notable to merit its own article, but until should not be redirected to any random member or administrator, and I think Deletion is better than arbitrary, confusing redirect. --Animalparty! (talk) 22:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as WP:RETURNTORED. jlwoodwa (talk) 06:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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⚧︎
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 28#⚧︎
Miami Beach Hall of Fame
[edit]- Miami Beach Hall of Fame → Miami Beach Convention Center (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at target. Cremastra ‹ u — c › 21:22, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I have added a mention. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:24, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Now mentioned at target. CycloneYoris talk! 08:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Colin Levy
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:16, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Colin Levy → Sintel#Colin Levy (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Broken redirect to a subsection of the Sintel article which used to be essentially a short bio of Colin Levy, but now does not exist any more. Redirect should be deleted, potentially it makes sense to write an article about Colin in its place eventually if it is considered notable, but the section that was deleted from the article likely isn't sufficient to establish this. — Julian H.✈ 20:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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super mario land 4-6
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:15, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Super Mario Land 4 → Wario Land II (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Super Mario Land 5 → Wario Land 3 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Super Mario Land 6 → Wario Land 4 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
those aren't subtitles in those games, so guessing that they would be might count as original research, and virtual boy wario land is the real sml5, so they should all be pushed up a number! consarn (formerly cogsan) 18:59, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Very silly, I have never heard of a person ever call them this, and I haven't checked, but I'm almost certain that the only views these redirects have are from this RfD. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 21:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as completely made-up terms. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete all per nom. Steel1943 (talk) 18:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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Blunt weapon
[edit]- Blunt weapon → Blunt instrument (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
It's starting to look like blunt instrument may become a redirect. Either way, a blunt weapon is not the same as a blunt instrument. IMO, it should either redirect to weapon and be mentioned somewhere, or be deleted. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:10, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Wait for the fate of the current target article and do the same. While I agree that "weapon" and instrument" are not the same ("weapon" means intended use while "instrument" in this context means occasional use), their usage and consequences thereof are the same and splitting hairs would be reasonable only in presence of RS. Ny presefence would be redirectr to blunt trauma --Altenmann >talk 18:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I think regardless of the fate of the article, "blunt weapon" is used in more contexts than "blunt instrument" is. The latter is solely a legal term. And it would be WP:SURPRISE for someone to be looking for a weapon and be sent to medical trauma. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 19:57, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Melee weapon
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 28#Melee weapon
N00b
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 28#N00b
Yemen-Taizz
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 28#Yemen-Taizz
Sapcex drone ship
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- The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 10:27, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sapcex drone ship → Autonomous spaceport drone ship (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No more useful than Sapcex would be, let alone its properly-spelt counterpart. – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 14:46, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Agree delete as useless. It is a hangover from failed Speedy by the creator after rectifying their own typo. - Davidships (talk) 17:14, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- No, the creator was User:Lawpjc, and this misreading of the history is part of why it wasn't a speedy. —Cryptic 14:44, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up. That doesn't change my "delete" view - Davidships (talk) 15:17, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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Portal:Kyrgyzstan
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- The result of the discussion was speedy deleted per WP:G5 by Isabelle Belato (talk · contribs). -- Tavix (talk) 20:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Not helpful to send readers to a page or portal which has little or no information about the topic Fram (talk) 12:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Strong delete as inappropiate WP:XNR User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 12:09, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, not helpful as a redirect. If it would be helpful as a portal WP:RED applies, if it's not helpful as a portal it shouldn't exist. CMD (talk) 13:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- FYI @Chipmunkdavis, the correct shortcut would be WP:RETURNTORED, WP:RED talks about redlinks in general whereas RETURNTORED is actually about redirects becoming redlinks due to the possibility of it being an article User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 14:47, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, missed that specific. I hope the argument is still understandable. CMD (talk) 15:04, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- FYI @Chipmunkdavis, the correct shortcut would be WP:RETURNTORED, WP:RED talks about redlinks in general whereas RETURNTORED is actually about redirects becoming redlinks due to the possibility of it being an article User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 14:47, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete It is WP:ASTONISHing to send readers to a non-portal page. Ca talk to me! 16:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Tagged with {{Db-g5}}: Creation by a sockpuppet. Steel1943 (talk) 18:25, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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Portal:Bhutan
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- The result of the discussion was speedy deleted per WP:G5 by Isabelle Belato (talk · contribs). -- Tavix (talk) 20:16, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Portal:Bhutan → Portal:Asia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not helpful to send readers to a portal which has no information about the topic Fram (talk) 12:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, not helpful as a redirect. If it would be helpful as a portal WP:RED applies, if it's not helpful as a portal it shouldn't exist. CMD (talk) 13:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete all portal RfD nominations below. I agree with nom and WP:RETURNTORED applies here. Ca talk to me! 16:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Tagged with {{Db-g5}}: Creation by a sockpuppet. Steel1943 (talk) 18:25, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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Portal:Kazakhstan
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- The result of the discussion was speedy deleted per WP:G5 by Isabelle Belato (talk · contribs). -- Tavix (talk) 20:16, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Portal:Kazakhstan → Portal:Asia (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not helpful for readers to get sent to a portal about a whole continent, which doesn't have information about Kazakhstan Fram (talk) 11:56, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, not helpful as a redirect. If it would be helpful as a portal WP:RED applies, if it's not helpful as a portal it shouldn't exist. CMD (talk) 13:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Tagged with {{Db-g5}}: Creation by a sockpuppet. Steel1943 (talk) 18:25, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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Portal:Armenia
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- The result of the discussion was speedy deleted per WP:G5 by Isabelle Belato (talk · contribs). -- Tavix (talk) 20:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Portal:Armenia → Portal:Europe (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect to target which has no information about Armenia usually, not helpful for readers. Fram (talk) 11:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, not helpful as a redirect. If it would be helpful as a portal WP:RED applies, if it's not helpful as a portal it shouldn't exist. CMD (talk) 13:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Tagged with {{Db-g5}}: Creation by a sockpuppet. Steel1943 (talk) 18:25, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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Portal:Albania
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- The result of the discussion was speedy deleted per WP:G5 by Isabelle Belato (talk · contribs). -- Tavix (talk) 20:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Portal:Albania → Portal:Europe (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Seems useless to redirect people who look for a portal for Albania, to a portal for the whole of Europe which will usually have nothing at all about Albania. Fram (talk) 11:11, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Listed the earlier RfD. I could have tagged this for WP:G4 but would prefer to go for a full term as the last RfD outcome was a delete without participation. Jay 💬 12:32, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, not helpful as a redirect. If it would be helpful as a portal WP:RED applies, if it's not helpful as a portal it shouldn't exist. CMD (talk) 13:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. In addition to the comments above, the creator User:Italian Wikipedian 2024 has been blocked as a sockpuppet. Adumbrativus (talk) 23:51, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Tagged with {{Db-g5}}: Creation by a sockpuppet. Steel1943 (talk) 18:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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Virus Barrier
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 28#Virus Barrier
Maria, Hilfe der Christen
[edit]- Maria, Hilfe der Christen → Mary, Help of Christians (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Redirect from the title in German, but the target doesn't seem to have anything to do with the country or language. Delete per WP:RLANG. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:29, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- This link is from Church of the Assumption (Saint Paul, Minnesota), which was built by German immigrants with a Marian shrine dedicated to her title as Maria, Hilfe der Christen. I made a redirect it to the English article to help readers make the connection. Why delete that? NeroSpicy (talk) 23:36, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 16:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep unless incoming link is first updated. As it stands, it's a bit Easter-eggy. Might be better to modify the text to
Maria-Hilf ([[Mary, Help of Christians]])
or just use the English term. --Paul_012 (talk) 16:08, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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There's vomit on his sweater already
[edit]- There's vomit on his sweater already → Lose Yourself (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Unlike "snap back to reality", this is a much less common line in this song that people are most likely not going to be searching for. Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 07:26, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- It's still a pretty well known lyric, especially since it's before "mom's spaghetti". CheeseyHead (talk) 07:28, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oh. Yeah, I did not know that. (Can you tell I'm not an Eminem fan? :P) Withdrawn Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 07:36, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- delete as not the big notable part of the meme. there's spaghetti on his spaghetti alretti cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:26, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Knees weak arms spaghetti CheeseyHead (talk) 16:28, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- keep instead cause the meme. gtp (talk) 18:04, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 07:13, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Harmless, plausible, potentially useful navigational aid, completely unambiguous target. Fieari (talk) 07:16, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Hallelujah night
[edit]- Hallelujah night → Guadalcanal campaign (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at target, but is a term used in a least one book (Guadalcanal: The Definitive Account). However, Google results are all associated with a Christian alternative to Halloween, and the only use of the term on enwiki is in a reference at Halloween. Not sure what's best here, but the status quo is likely astonishing to at least some searchers. Mdewman6 (talk) 23:42, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete It is an obscure reference compared with others with no actual context in the targeted article. Cinderella157 (talk) 01:27, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- The term is singular lower-case of Hallelujah Nights. LIrala (talk) 01:24, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as ambiguous with no one correct target, and only one occurence in Search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:13, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate - We have an attested, cited use of the term in a book for this target. I definitely have heard of the renaming of Halloween in churches, that seems very widespread. The song linked by LIrala above is a good match as well. I think this is worthy of a disambiguation page with at least these three targets. Fieari (talk) 01:31, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 01:27, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate with at least Halloween, Guadalcanal campaign (the current target) and Hallelujah Nights Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 03:41, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- A disambiguation page could not be formed because of MOS:DABMENTION. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:02, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- I have added mention to Halloween. Jay 💬 10:54, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- A disambiguation page could not be formed because of MOS:DABMENTION. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:02, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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9/28/2022
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 28#9/28/2022
September 28, 2022
[edit]Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 28#September 28, 2022
Tradiční Lovecký salám
[edit]lovecký salám (hunting salami, apparently) is mentioned in the article, but not necessarily its "traditional" variant. has incoming links, but their classification as traditional seems to be unsourced and not necessarily correct cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:43, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- should mention that lovecký salám already exists, so the links could easily be fixed, if any fixing needs to be done cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:46, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Lovecký salám was applied for as a EU Traditional Speciality Guaranteed-product (TSG). That means that -in order to use the name- all products in the EU have to be produced according to the specs provided in the application. following opposition, the name Tradiční Lovecký salám was accepted as a TSG (see here). That means that one can use the name Lovecký salám without regards to what the product looks like, but Tradiční Lovecký salám is subject to the characteristics in the description. The name is therefore worth a redirect as people may be interested and this is the closest page we can offer. Having said that, the current characterisation of Lovecký salám as a TSG i incorrect; and I will change that. An alternative is redirecting to List of traditional specialities guaranteed by country, but for me that feels too generic... L.tak (talk) 09:29, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
- L.tak has provided a lot of useful information
, but that should have been in the article. Delete per nom, if the target doesn't say what the redirect term is. Jay 💬 20:27, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
Keep per L.tak's changes. Thanks.Jay 💬 07:53, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- corrected the page now in line with what I stated. Thanks for bringing the oversight to my attention. L.tak (talk) 22:36, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Was going to close as Keep, but it appears @L.tak's changes have been removed. Relisting to see if it should still be kept without these changes, or if they could be re-introduced.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SmittenGalaxy | talk! 03:27, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Struck my keep. JacktheBrown removed the change as it was not a wikilink. Jay 💬 06:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Draft:Execution of Mary, Queen of Scots
[edit]- Draft:Execution of Mary, Queen of Scots → Execution of Mary, Queen of Scots (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
I think this redirect can be deleted under the G6 criteria for maintenance, since it can never serve as a plausible link to the target page. Will be looking forward to the community's input. Keivan.fTalk 03:18, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:RDRAFT. mwwv converse∫edits 12:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral/delete per nom. Hurricane Clyde 🌀my talk page! 22:09, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Histmerge this please. J947 ‡ edits 22:22, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Histmerge a WP:Cut-and-paste move ; same as WP:MAD you should not be deleting the contribution history. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 06:16, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see why a histmerge is necessary; Omnis Scientia was both the author of this redirect's previous revisions and the editor who copied them over to the target, so WP:NOATT would apply. jlwoodwa (talk) 06:52, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- I ran into some complications when moving it to mainspace, with it saying the "page of that name already exists" i.e. the redirect. I saw this as the best course of action at the time so I support whatever course is taken here. Omnis Scientia (talk) 07:39, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per mwnv and histmerge per J947. Agree with jlwoodwa that histmerge is not really necessary, but given Omnis Scientia's statement that she wanted to perform the move but could not because of technical reasons, it is only fair that the prior revisions are maintained. Jay 💬 07:58, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Kind Mr. Seon Ju
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- The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 01:36, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Kind Mr. Seon Ju → List of programs broadcast by MBC TV (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Not mentioned at target and the literal title of the Korean drama is Kind Mrs. Seonju as the lead character is a female (see Desperate Mrs. Seonju). 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 00:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. "Ssi" (씨) can roughly translates to "Mr.", "Mrs.", or "Ms.". But the character is a female so it can either be Mrs. or Ms./Miss. Aidillia(talk) 00:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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