Talk:Oen Boen Ing

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 02:28, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that Dr. Oen Boen Ing used his own money to pay for some patients' prescriptions?

• Source: Lie, Ravando (2017). "Dr Oen Boen Ing: Patriot Doctor, Social Activist, and Doctor of the Poor" (PDF). Wacana. 18 (2): 478. doi:10.17510/wacana.v18i2.592. – "Whenever Dr Oen knew a patient could not afford to pay for medicine, he would sign and stamp the prescription. [...] A prescription bearing Dr Oen’s signature meant that the doctor himself would pay for it out of his own pocket."

• ALT1: ... that Dr. Oen Boen Ing, who often worked for free, was so popular that the Indonesian government was petitioned to not evacuate him during a period of violence against Chinese Indonesians? Source: Lie, Ravando (2017). "Dr Oen Boen Ing: Patriot Doctor, Social Activist, and Doctor of the Poor" (PDF). Wacana. 18 (2): 467. doi:10.17510/wacana.v18i2.592. – "The report also said that Dr Oen was able to assist more than 200 patients a day and more than half of them did not have to pay a single penny. ... When a series of anti-Tionghoa upheaval erupted in Surakarta, Dr Oen was supposed to be evacuated to a safe place by the Republican government. However, after hearing such a plan, people in Surakarta submitted a petition rejecting the idea and hoping Dr Oen would remain in Surakarta to assist the poor."
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Grace A. Johnson

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 671 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:04, 16 June 2024 (UTC).

• Excellent article. Neat guy.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Earwig marked ~40% for the Wacana PDF, but a spot check indicates that it's probably due to the foreign language element and particular phrasing like "fun fairs"; I didn't see any serious issues. Promoter, feel free to double-check my work; this is my first QPQ review. ThaesOfereode (talk) 21:16, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

• Thanks. I reviewed Earwig, and changed "decided to move" to "moved", but most of these are proper names or direct quotations. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:44, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Oen Boen Ing/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Crisco 1492 (talk · contribs) 01:03, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Esculenta (talk · contribs) 19:34, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I'll review this article. Will have comments here in a couple of days. Esculenta (talk) 19:34, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Comments

• I did spot checks for all of the information sourced to Lie 2017. All of the information is verified.
• I also verified all info cited to Nafi 2017 (Claude has no problem with the language!) – no problems there

• images: two images, both public domain. It's a shame there isn't an image for the infobox. (There's a few old images out on the net, but I assume you're checked for this already)
• there's two spellings of "private practise/practice"
  • Thought I'd gotten all of them. Fixed.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:55, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• potentially useful link: medical licence
  • Done. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:55, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• could you briefly explain what kind of organization Hua Chiao Tsien Ning Hui is?
• "and his willingness to pay his patients' prescriptions." -> "to pay for"
  • Done. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:55, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• "The government of Indonesia, meanwhile, granted him the Satyalancana Kebaktian Sosial in 1975" perhaps it could be made more clear that this is an award of some sort, so the reader doesn't have to click away to find out what this is?
  • Made explicit. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:55, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• "then moved to Semarang for his MULO studies" … "was completed at an AMS in Yogyakarta" perhaps these abbreviations could be spelled out and glossed to make it easier for the reader?
  • They're both Dutch terms, which I don't think would help most readers even if spelled out. Glossed. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:55, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• " … Oen was able to gain practical experience between 1928 and 1929." I assume this is medical experience, but maybe make it explicit?
  • Done.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:55, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• suggest to gloss wayang potehi (glove puppetry)
  • Done.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:55, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• link incorporating, pro bono
  • Done incorporating. Pro bono is linked on first mention in the lede and body. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:55, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• I'm wondering if the "Legacy" section would be better titled "Recognition". What do you think?
• I did find a source not used by the article that might have some additional info about him:

• Oen Boen Ing was one of the alumni who supported THHK (Tiong Hoa Hwee Koan) Surakarta during a leadership transition in 1930. He helped THHK recover from its financial difficulties during the economic depression, which isn't mentioned in the Wikipedia article.
• the article discusses Oen's involvement in organizing cultural performances, such as Javanese wayang (puppet) shows, and helping to support education through these activities. His direct role in these events is emphasized, showing his commitment to integrating Chinese culture with local Javanese traditions, which is not detailed in the Wikipedia article.
• The article quotes historian RM Daradjadi's analysis of Oen's personal philosophy, which aligns with the Javanese concept of "sepi ing pamrih rame ing gawe" ("working with dedication without expecting material rewards"). This reflects his belief in self-improvement and shared community responsibility. This perspective is not included in the Wikipedia article.
• The article describes the development of the clinic into the Panti Kosala Hospital in 1965, its expansion into a full hospital in 1982, and the eventual renaming to "Dr. Oen Hospital" after his death. The article provides more details about the expansion and the importance of this institution to Oen's legacy in the community.

These additions aren't mandatory and offered as an attempt to give some potential suggestions for improvements of an already solid article with few apparent flaws. So with that I'll put this review on hold and give the nominator some time to respond. Esculenta (talk) 00:36, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

• Thanks Esculenta. I'll have a look at the seminar paper you linked to gauge its reliability; I may have reviewed it previously. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:55, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Looking at this, the author Aji Rais Permana was an undergrad at the time he delivered this paper. Consequently, I do not think that this meets the standards for WP:RS. I suspect that Ravando Lie's book would have the detail... might see if Kompas sells digital copies, but I'm not in a position to easily get a physical copy.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:02, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

    Fair enough! Ok, since the article meets the GA criteria, I think we're done here. Promoting now. Esculenta (talk) 23:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)