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Grammar

This article needs some grammatical spring cleaning (or maybe just some light dusting). It has all the information, just not the clean delivery Wikipedia is about. Anyone care to volunteer?

I don't think Wikipedia is about "clean delivery." Most of the pages on this site are FILLED with bad writing and typos.

Meaning of "Gogs"

Does anyone know the meaning of the title? I feel like it should be mentioned in the article. The only interpretation I've found was in a YouTube comment:

Gogs is a word to describe Gog, which is short for Gogledd, which means north, this animation was made in wales, the people who made it lived in the south of wales, so piecing all this together this animation is basically taking the piss out of north wales people, NICE, i know this because i am a Gog

That actually... makes sense, to be honest. Does anyone know if it's correct?--Madotsuki the Dreamer (talk) 15:17, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I can answer this with absoloute authority. I am the person who named the series and co created it with Deiniol Morris. We later employed Michael Mort the animator to help us. Gogs was chosen because we as North Walians wanted to use the Welsh language slang term for North Walians as the title. We felt that the sound of the word suited the monosyllabic nature of the very primitive family! Simple. Sion Jones, co creator of Gogs. Gog Maffia (talk) 21:24, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Episode Order Confusion

Okay, I've been trying to get a definitive answer on what the correct episode order is for Gogs, and it's clear that the Toonhound page which appears to be this article's source isn't entirely accurate, and the article List of Gogs episodes is even less correct than this one.

There seems to be consensus on two things: that the 13 regular episodes are split into 5 for the first series and 8 for the second, and that the pilot episode was Fire, which indeed is listed as the first episode in all sources I've been able to find. That would mean that the list is as follows:

Series 1

Fire
Stone Circle
Hunt
Cave
Earthquake

Series 2

Inventions
Trappers
Illness
Bear
Gramps R.I.P.
Apes and Men
Babysitting
Snow

However, I then checked the BBC Genome Project (Gogs page here). Now unfortunately S4C isn't included in the Genome Project, and the Christmas 93 issue of Radio Times hasn't been digitized otherwise, so all we have to go on is the listings for the BBC2 debut in December 1996. Based on the episode descriptions, and assuming they kept the same episode order as the S4C airings, and that none of the second series which aired a year later had been produced yet, the episodes for Series 1 are clearly Stone Circle, Hunt, Cave, Illness, and Apes and Men. No sign of Fire anywhere, even though Toonhound states that Fire made its English debut in the exact date and timeslot as Stone Circle.

Being the pilot, it's entirely possible that Fire was held over the the second series, except the sources also state that 8 episodes were produced for Series 2, which has 8 episodes total. Stone Circle being the broadcast debut episode would also make sense given that it and Fire are the only two without the title card at the start.

Interestingly/annoyingly, the second series appears to have aired in one solid block on Christmas Day 1997, according to the Genome Project, and the description ("The prehistoric hooligans exhibit amazing ingenuity in the face of freezing temperatures") implies that the first episode of that block (assuming that's the one they bothered to give a description for) was either Fire or Snow.

This is a lot of words to say that no-one seems to really know what order the episodes aired in, but it's at least worth further exploration. Am considering picking up the DVD set, which I suspect may have reordered the episodes, as I've been unable to find an episode list for the DVD specifically. FreeBard42 (talk) 14:20, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]